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sometimes 1/2 of the work
660 Ti is literally 3x the cost per 1mil points
after the LTT October folding month is over i will be permanently retiring my 660 Ti's
hoping the new nVidia/AMD cards will drastically drive down the price of RTX 2000 series cards

Atm not
Also doing 3.1mill points atm
With 2 card 😂
1080Ti and a 1070Ti
0 overclock cause cooling
😂
1080 Ti / 2X 660 Ti's / 4X P106-90's
Im doing 2m avg with a 1080 and a 1070 KEKW
Fucking hell 😂
If i go folding on my xeons jezus
😂
That would be 48 threads alone
😂
Lets test that out 😂
what xeons?
2x E5-2640 and 2x E5-2640V2
Oh yea
but i would guess 5-7k PPD per thread
YEET
so 48 threads would be ~240k ish
ive seen the 26 threads on my 2660's vary from 30k ppd to 150k ppd
Oof
And the fold doesnt wanna start on the unraid system yay
. . . . .
But its also not getting the stats i have lol
My 3900x is doing 15k/t on eco mode with the A8 core
But when i go to the stats page it shows correctly
Oh its going
How long untill people are gonna complain thier mc server is slow ?
i folded on my MC server
i just reduced the thread count for the slots
and used a program to force thread affinity
Ah nice
43K atm
Its doing a covid-19 job
. . . . .
Funny thing is fans of that server havent even ramped up yet
YET
you want to see the system with the dual 2660's, dual P106-90's and 660 Ti?
its pretty great
thats one hell of a setup
that actually reduced the temps on CPU2 by 5C
and keep the fans from ramping to 100% all the time
Nice
😂
i think that whole setup is around $250
not counting the 600 Ti
which i already had laying around
i got the mobo with both CPU's and coolers off eBay for $180 i think
mines gone down to 2.12
Yikes
i hope you let the WU finish at least
And i am stopping with the folding after today cause powerbill went 
my guess is my setup going 100% is around 1250-1500 watts
2 days ago it was 37-39F during the day
LEL
Second name for pc's are spaceheaters
Well its true
😂
I paused the folding and the watts dropped with 400 😂
i've been wanting to get a whole home power monitor
was thinking about the one that uses a Raspberry Pi
this?
Nope
ohh 3 phase
i run on MERICA powa
we still have some Nuclear
I am using a raspberry pi with a P1 Smart meter USB connected to a P11 port of our powermeter
actually near me is lots of wind generation
With Domotiz
Oh lol
Close to the coast ?
This has been running for 12 days now
actually the extra power is good when i run my home backup generator
Oh yea in the US you need that 😂
Cause the power grid is so stable
I dont even have a UPS for my servers cause the power never dies here
i have a UPS on EVERY sensitive piece of electronics in my house
LOL
they kick on about once a week
due to dirty power
actually around here the #1 cause of power outage is drunk ppl running into power poles
atleast as far as im aware
Ofc
or when its windy
We dont have that problem here cause stable power poles
last time i lost power was in the middle of the day
oof
idk either
DId they have to plant a new tree to make the pole lol
no i put a raspberry pi in it and have it setup to monitor incoming power
Oh lel
Looks fancy
Ofc
well i designed the whole monitoring system myself
so it defiantly wasnt guaranteed to work lol
its only actually flipped over once in 10 months
Oh lel
because of course as soon as i got a backup generator my power became 90% more stable
im pretty sure the power grid around here is sentient
as soon as i got a backup gen its like "lets make the power never go out again"
My power doesnt drop below 226V and doesnt go above 233V
i have a voltage drop of 3V just in my house
WTF
from the panel to upstairs
HOW EVEN IS THAT POSIBLE
since most of North American homes are 120V single phase we have more voltage drop from the panel
True
😄
the power coming out of that old military generator is arguably cleaner than the power from the street
but it has the flaw that if it runs for an extended period under 40% load the generator will pretty much break
imagine only getting 120V from the wall

This post was made by European gang
but it has the flaw that if it runs for an extended period under 40% load the generator will pretty much break
@hushed bobcat F
hence why i said the extra power from folding is good for my generator
Yup
Not your fuel bill tho
Oof
Yup
theoretically i could run it for nearly free
because it will run on stuff like Waste Motor Oil, Home Heating Oil, etc
a diesel would probably blow up on ethanol
I refuse to run any electronics I paid over $700 for that stores my data without some sort of AVR
😄
ethanol to my knowledge is far closer to gasoline
so putting it in a diesel sounds like a bad idea
i will say i think 3 phase is better power than 1 phase or split-phase
but you 50 Hz guys are weird
Bio fuels are great (see: car throttle runs skoda on used chip oil)
in my particular case most Biofuel wont work @humble rover
the stuff they add to Biofuel eats the stock fuel system
its especially hard on the injection pumps
That would be the ethanol lol
Ethanol is more reactive due to being an alcohol, plus it’s hydrophilic
actually i think they use Methanol in Biodiesel
That doesn’t sound right. Maybe an additive. Meth boils at higher point
@stark bough https://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a4717/4332200/
"Vegetable oil (VO) is made up of chains of fatty acids held together by glycerol molecules. Methanol breaks those chains of fatty acids apart."
That makes sense as an additive.
im not sure its an additive
i define an additive as something added later on to make up for something missing in the fuel (cetane, lubricity, etc)
Reactant it seems like
in this case you need Methanol in the refining process
Yeah I’m on mobile data so I’ll have to look at it
i'm 333rd top folder 😄 take that 100 people slower than I am
Den-Fi remains in first with 761.65 million points, rodarkone has staved off Mac again to remain in second place with 514.03 million points, Macaw2000 is in third with 485.90 million points, Unilevers is in fourth with 386.01 million points, Miker07 is in fifth with 347.97 mil...

Nice
Too bad it wont be gone after today 😂
Yup
OOF. 15% humidity right now
oof
Den-Fi is really looking unbeatable sitting on his throne with 839.32 million points, rodarkone has managed to maintain second place with 548.56 million points, but they will almost certainly be overtaken by Macaw2000 in third place with 540.28 million points. Unilevers, the m...
#223, ill take that
anyone else have cpu's idling? my 3600 has done almost nothing all day and i'v restarted it 3 times
same
not really
theoretically i could run it for nearly free
@hushed bobcat Minus the environmental pollutants, including carcinogens, sure!
I mean if cruise ships think it's okay to run on bunker oil, then go empty some grease traps into your gas tank.
i read a military report on testing Waste Motor Oil as an emergency backup for diesel fuel.
they tested quite alot of parameters on pollution, mostly heavy metals.
the conclusion was it wasn't statistically much worse than normal diesel
lol
ahh found it
what's most interesting is they tested filtration for burning the fuel
and they found traditional diesel fuel-water separators literally did nothing to the fuel/oil
in some cases it added water to the fuel
One million volunteers and more than 2.5 exaFLOPS later, the group behind the crowdsourced distributed-computing project says it has found possible targets for stopping the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
about time
Anyone really interested to se PPD/W numbers on 6000 series?
I mean Nvidia just got a shot in the arm, lets see if AMD can still beat it
Should I get a NHD-15 for my 3700x, or stick with the u12s
Thinking about going chromax.
Temps making me uncomfortable
if you want to. i have a 2700x on water and it sits around 65c and it peaked at 76c
cpu speed is at 3.92Ghz
Holy crap Ive just woken up. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cF8Al_fBWrCnq_0I6J3zTtHS6FRWA-LZgq4m_D0vecU/edit?usp=sharing Please remember that this is a friendly event, but we are all folding away for Science, AND GLORY! Im really impressed with the numbers we are seei...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cF8Al_fBWrCnq_0I6J3zTtHS6FRWA-LZgq4m_D0vecU/edit#gid=6395876
still at 223
Cooled down enough that I’m spinning up two machines
Wow 38 hours of neglect and basically no folding and I’m 137?
I havent been folding for 2 days and i am at 75
I have been folding constantly and I am 131
I'm getting cold at night. time to pump up power targets to heat up the room
@pseudo abyss What equipment are you running?
Im really wondering how good the new 6000 cards will be. Nvidia cards basically got a free 50% with the new update
CUDA Op plz nerf.
Dont let your expectations run amok, theres no special opencl optimizations going on here unfortunately
FAH team frequently expresses how little support they get from team red :c
Hopefully theyll come around soon
In first place we have Den-fi, sitting on the throne teasing us with his 69m PPD for today, he has a total of 979.81 million points so far during the event. Second place we can see macaw2000 is cementing his place with 642.83 million points, rodarkone is certainly not up to th...
anyone here ever listed their folding work on Resumes?
anyone here go overkill on the cooling despite what 'gamers' might recommend cause you do CPU folding?
also is there a LAR CPU database yet or they're still collecting datapoints?
thinking of instead of going for a 120mm system like the scyth, going full 140mm with a NHD15 for sustained.
@stark bough there is a beta database
right now you can only compare CPU's on a certain WU
3700x beats 3800x?

lol

What so folding?
3700x beats 3800x? this is the crushing blow against Intel
😳
p16810 if you want to see a popular A8 core
Dont know how many 3900xs there are but seems like eco mode is just a 8% delta, nice
thats the cpu im wanting to get
No blog post today but here are the rankings for day 19.
i think were barely half way through are we?
yeah im recruting my 4790 and 8100 again.
Thermals on my prism just arent doing it so i ended cpu folding on that all together.
I was thinking of upgrading the cooler now for the event but I figure I'm better off using the same money for games I actually want to play.
We are now on day 20, the event is 35 days so we are at the 1/2 way point.
Getting 50C on my about 5 year old hybrid. Was wondering if permeation is a problem
Case is a lot more compact than my old R6. Removed the front of the Define C during folding
And Yeah I’m complaining about power, heat, and hardware config, but if I wasn’t then what’s the point of folding 
I’m really on the fence of Air vs Water for my CPU
133
My goal is to not drop bellow 150 but I might not manage that either, can only wait and see
Maybe
Unless I can recruit another GPU for a week Indint see myself getting over 100
Big air gang, dealing with pumps is such a hassle
he says unironically as he upgrades aios when a good deal comes around
There isn’t exactly a “low water” light that blinks on my dashboard.
btw is there still no day 19 sheet?
there is, they did fix it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x4iYG-6dRkmDA3OXooznkHWh4geq3TAm4oLf7qZMDNE/edit?usp=sharing
Nice, 69m event points
139 now
cant wait till day 20 is over
@tired crow Isn't the event 41 days?
@rich turtle As far as I know it's 5 weeks 35 days
Ends November 22nd (23:59 GMT``` 👀
Yeah, 40 days between then.
hang on let me check the spred sheets
Some thing is screwed up here.
Oct 12th to Nov 22nd is 6 weeks ????????
The speedsheets only have 5 weeks
Spec said the event was 5 weeks
Spec lied!
Imma just forward a week of my power bill to him lol
I find it hilarious that that's literally the only piece of the OP I actually read.
lol
I knew from the start it was longer than a month as the name would imply. I thought it was 5 weeks but I never looked at the dates that close . But GOTSpecum has confirmed that the event is 5 weeks long so forget the end date of Nov 22nd.
The event will end Nov 15th.
XD
The ever present and benevolent Den-fi continues his reign of chaos with 1,148.52 million points, producing over ten percent of the entire events output today is certainly looking undefeatable by this point in the event. Macaw2000 has made himself comfortable in second place w...
No longer 69m event points :c
F
In first place we have Den-Fi with 1,237.85 million points, Macaw2000 takes second place with 804.90 million points, rodarkone is in third with 699.73 million points, Unilevers in fourth with 548.33 million points, miker07 in fifth with 501.59 million points, Gorgon takes sixt...
Imma just forward a week of my power bill to him lol
@rich turtle I thought you said you didn't get power bills, just thank you notes from your electricity provider
"Dear Den, Thank you for putting my kids through college."
Den sus
@fierce steppe That's at home. He'll be getting one of my office power bills.
Well today we have seen Den-Fi do his best single day of the event, and almost certainly his best single day ever folding, rodarkone has produced zero points over the last 24 hours, Dr.Robos production has dropped massively and Marknd59 has managed to keep his top 20 spot. Den...
Am I the only one insane enough to be folding on an i3 8100 right now on LAR 😄
I'm running it on an optiplex like system.
I've been falling in love with these office computers.
are they contributing to the LAR database?
need a link?
@carmine sphinx https://folding.lar.systems/
thanks
honestly i'm moving the web control skin as it gives me more information that the standard advanced client.
at the very least it can show me where the dips are and estimates PPD based on hardware.
There are so many damn permutations on hardware.
thanks to folding.lar.systems I know I am now the world record holder for PPD with a GTS 450
i think i have the market cornered on 660 Ti's
I'm confused about something. Is it normal for Folding@Home to barely use an intergrated GPU's resources?
I don't think igpus are supported
When I was folding on my laptop, there was no option to use integrated, only cpu
Huh... Cuz I saw about an hour ago that about 43% my iGPU was being used.
There weren't many things happening outside of a few Firefox tabs either.
Wow... It really doesn't like iGPUs. Restarted my progress all the way back to the start from just 1 pause...
Honestly theres not much to talk about here so I am going to forgo the usual rankings and take this blog post to instead talk about why we fold. As I am sure you all know the world is currently in the grips of a viral pandemic that spreads across all continents, and has touche...
wow clearly I missed this announcement...
oh well I'll still be folding
@stark bough Why'd you post Noc Noc? lol
oh. was looking at the cooler.
Was wondering about those ppcs.
they look good though.
Good! Been using it as my office PC for a couple years now.
hows the sound? Ive been hesitant of even trying ppcs.
well, might do a budget build. I got a define C. was thing a 'stacked with noctua' silent build.
just really thinking of those clearances. I was thinking of getting a d15 and seeing if i can cram it in there, but u9 looks good too.
too bad its not a dual chamber and I can cram some fans under the card.
Im looking at P14s.
the a12x25 is a great fan for rads.
Side note. Ive been looking at numbers all day.
when the numbers hit 7 digits they basically felt like folding numbers 😄
is slot performance for the entire card and WU as reported?
I've been limiting power target, and putting off undervolting.
Also been wondering about those top mounted fans. don't the Front-top fan, and the top-front fan basically prevent a good part of that air from getting to the mobo?
I was thinking about a single large fan over the cpu cooler, and 'blanking' the area so most front air intake hits the cooler at least.
Also my Wraith Prism is just being a noisy boy at anything about 75%
I want to know... Is there a way to have my client utilize more of my intergrated GPU than the little amount it's leveraging now?
Never mind! I figured out that Task Manager was hiding several other GPU trackers including what I was looking for.
yeah. use cUDA
Can't. It's an AMD iGPU.
aw darn.
@stark bough
or anyone here, who does folding
what OS do you guys use?
I'm curious, if anyone here has have done a comparison, between running their software on windows
vs latest mainline linux kernel, recompiled specifically for the cpu in your system
@muted pike seems like Linux is more efficient for PPD but most of my spare machines came with a windows licence so I use that.
@stark bough most distro kernels that you get, are compiled for a wide range of CPUs
I dont have the luxury... yet, of running a linux only pc for tasks.
so the compiled kernel code is limited to only the cpu instructions that all of them support
if you disable support for them, and recompile just for your cpu
you get the benefit of optimized code for all the new fancy instruction sets
in general in more comfortable with using windows, but im trying to homelab and get used to using varying linux distros.
@stark bough the easy bit is you can just download kernel sources via your package manager
and configure it using the current running config
after that you can just remove the other cpus
and make a kernel package
because windows seems like, waste of power lol
esp if you do folding
they fold on the side.
Basically theyre office PC's that I give to people for basic web browsing 😄
only for folding month.
8100 seems to be doing well. was planning to use it as a blue iris/plex box.
taking them down once folding month ends of course.
Think its ~38,000 PPD per 36 W on i3 8100 (1,055 PPD/avg W)
2 Thread 3700x + 1070 85% power target
System goes idle when using, but according to LAR looks like i get
998,531 PD on 315W (reading from UPS and including peripherals including monitor)
Lets see. last night 1,294,397 PPD/ 315 W = 4,109 PPD/avg W
TBF. im the wrong person to be talking about this in terms of optimization.
its just something ive been doing for fun
Honestly I'd love to see an LTT build where they focus on getting as much PPD per a watt on a PC within a specific budget, like say 300W, while still making a badass gaming PC
I was looking at fans the other day and there are two models that differ by an entire watt in terms of power consumption
Den-Fi has remained sitting on his throne with 1,485.63 million points, Macaw2000 is in second place with 961.94 million points, rodarkone is in third with 702.4 million points, Unilevers is in fourth with 634.56 million points. Miler07 is in fifth with 582.46 million points, ...
damn. dropped to 137
well. going to drop out my 8100 for now gonna take it with me somewhere.
do we have anyone who works with the LAR team in this chat? Was wondering if the web control could be customized with a scheduler. I got my GPU folding 24/7 but my CPU's only fold when the suns up.
@tired crow
I'm really trying to stay within that 100-149. Single card folding is holding me there.
But PPD/W cpu to gpu is horrid.
running a core 2 duo laptop just for fun
gets about 2k ppd lol
lol oof. how much power?
I've been thinking of getting some AC infinities or noctua 5V fans to add some cooling to some rigs on a temporary basis.
then repurpose those fans whenever I need to dry something that requires airflow like in a car
The LAR team is one guy lol
lol oof. how much power?
@stark bough since it's a laptop the wattage is probably relatively low, but it still def isn't worth 2k ppd long term
Surprisingly the T7300 is a little faster than the desktop E6600 I had a while ago, I can't remember the ppd on that one but benchmarks say the laptop is faster
@high willow
Yeah. I recruited my office computers since to stay in the 100-150 I need at least 120-150k
Card keeps in me in the game, office comptuers keep me going. Problem is that Ryzen WU's are sporadic.
how much would a core 2 quad generate? thinking of adding a couple of spare desktops with q9300s
I just downloaded the fah client and ran it so I don't think so
do we have anyone who works with the LAR team in this chat? Was wondering if the web control could be customized with a scheduler. I got my GPU folding 24/7 but my CPU's only fold when the suns up.
@tired crow
@stark bough Ask questions or make suggestions here -
So, the following is the sort of thing that happens when youre quarantined at home and have evenings and weekends to more less let your mind wander. TLDR: Based on the many questions and comments of folders during the last LTT folding event I made a dark mode Chrome Extension ...
We have our second participant hitting over one billion points for the event, you guys are just simply OP! Den-Fi maintains his rule by sheer force holding onto the throne with 1,560.79 million points, Macaw2000 continues in second, being the second person to pass the one bill...
are we all choking out the collection servers? I have 5 jobs waiting to send :O
Oof. Taking another trip. I wonder if I’ll drop out of 150 slots if I stop folding for 2 days
ive had a CPU job trying to send for a week
i dont want to but i think im going to delete the WU
i guess i could just wait until it expires
Ryzen?
Time to fold again
hey shitass
wanna see me speedrun pc
LAR Systems doesn't gather CPU data do they? that would be fun to see
Its a beta feature currently
cool
I can't wait to compare the PPD of my old GPU and see what kind of CPU it measures up to
It's on a per-project basis currently so the metric isnt as accurate as one may want it to be for that
Generally cpus dont make too much unless youre running a bunch of them
GUYS i really need help recovering some davinchi resolve files that i need, can anyone help me
#tech-support @boreal gazelle
You almost got there, just missed it by one channel
We have Den-Fi wearing the crown with 1,636.04 million points, Macaw2000 with 1,077.88 million points and in third place rodarkone with 721.64 million points. Unilevers on in fourth with 693.44 million points followed by miker07 in fifth with 629.83 million points, Gorgon rema...
In general I get 1,000 PPD per W CPU and 4,000 W GPU on pascal
?
whoops. posted in wrong channel
I have been stuck around rank 131-132 for many days now
I have the gold folding badge now
@pseudo abyss great job on reaching the gold badge!
🙂
How much uplift are we getting from pascal to ampere per watt?
Id imagine it would be pretty close for turing post cuda bump and an ampere card not pinned at its tdp no? (ppd/w)
In terms of daily production per arch thats harder to quantify
Anyone ever get to the point where they actively think about the wattage of their fans?
What temps do you guys aim for when mining? I’m trying to get sub 70 sustained.
Getting 68C on CPU and 51 on GPU front panel off. Was thinking of going dual tower on my 3700x/5900x to maintain temps if Inclose up the front
i vaguley remember reading my mobo manual saying that fan headers are rated for 1 watt each
and 70 C is the temprature I aim at with my folding rigs
old cards you can't mess with the temp limit, and 70 is what they end up targetting
Mines is a Hybrid in a define C. Makes me wonder if I need to load up on fans if I go pure air cool.
As many of you may know I have had a lot of alcohol tonight. My dads wife has had good news regarding her recent cancer operation so we have been celebrating, Im not going to lie that I am quite overcome by the effects of alcohol. This blog post will be short due to the use of...
oof. Had my GPU OC'ed and forgot I turned down my power target. errored out a WU
hello everyone, I just joined the LTT F@H team (and this discord server). My understanding is that I'm out of the event of the current month but for follow-up events like this, do I need to have an LTT forum account as well?
@supple cypress You will need to sign up on the forum to be able to fill in the required data needed for the event, yes (PS I'm the Folding leader, I'll help where ever I can)
alright, thanks
With my internet connection now recovered we are back! Im just going to drop the stats and not much else, but a small disclaimer, this stats are the correct point values for the 00:00 update and will reflect that accordingly. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QckuWkCBuWg...
Anyone know why my folding system crashed
Wasn’t home for a week but I left it running. When I came back Windows was gone and it had some kind of hard drive error. I restarted and it worked fine then
hrmm, is the hard drive itself suspect at all?
idk, it was working fine and it worked fine after I rebooted
i'm liable to just blame it on some weird one off cosmic ray nonsense
yeah it might’ve just had a moment
no
It was idling outside of the os with the error like it restarted for some reason and then couldn’t find the os
that's a tricky one
because there's not really a BIOS option for 'restart if you can't find an OS'
Maybe some Windows Update shenanigans or something
yeah, is this a machine you're going to be leaving alone for weeks at a time consistantly?
if so, is it a machine you only use for folding, or do you do day to day work on it as well
is it GPU folding? or only CPU
then yeah, you can either write this off as a weird issue and accept that you might have to restart it every couple of months, or if you're serious about keeping it up i'd recommend booting that machine off of a live linux USB stick
you could boot from a USB stick without messing with the existing windows install, isntall the FAH client, and linux won't restart for updates or anything dumb
as long as you aren't GPU folding Linux is a great option
I was having random shutdowns on a Win 10 machine, installed Pop OS! on it, ran for 6 month's straight folding with no issues
Had no issues gpu folding on mint, with an nvidia gpu (nominally)
Could never get it to work with two gpus though
i had 2 GPU's going
a 660 Ti and GTX 970 if i remember right
its getting the official nVidia drivers and libraries installed thats a pain
not to mention trying to set power limits and fan curves
We are now into the fifth and final week of the event, this is usually a time a little change and cementing positions. We have seen some amazing production during this event taking us to heights never seen before during any LTT folding event. Den-Fi sits in first place with 1,...
Ya I could never get it to boot properly with official nvidia drivers, which is a pain when it would crash the bootloader as well
Otherwise I have linux dualbooted on my main rig
oof these beta moonshot wus seem to hit only on my amd cards and they cut a solid chunk of my ppd
@tired crow My event total still shows the number from yesterday, idk if thats something you want to look into
hang on I'll check
what numbers are you looking at ? tonights update has you at 402,727,813 points, yesterday was 400,065,399 points, 2,662,414 points for the day.
Hang on I see what you mean let me shout Spec
We are working on it
@humble rover Spec found the problem and it is being fixed. Thanks for spotting it
Bingo thanks
@humble rover Thank you for bringing this to our attention, it seems a cell was incorrectly referenced on the formula that was used to calculate the total
just getting Nvidia drivers to work period on Linux nearly killed me XD
if they could wave their fingers and make GPU folding work on the Nouveau drivers i'd cry with joy
nouveau drivers are just crap for nvidia
usually I end up having to install the proprietary ones just to get the computer to function properly
granted I'm no Anthony when it comes to linux and if I knew more I might be able to get them working
but if the drivers were good they would just work out of the box for the most part, minimal assembly required
i did manage to get mine working
but it was alot of kicking and screaming
for both me and the machine lol
but once i got it working it ran flawlessly for 6 months
i think i had 1 bad WU
Wish the weather was colder a month ago
We’re running heaters now, they wouldn’t complain if I put a computer in their room for “heating”
250-300W of heating is just enough to balance out heat loss
i've got enough running that my house stays at 71F-73F even when its 40F outside
It's time I start investigating again on my temps; I have ambient temp of 69 (yes, not just for the meme), all of my fans running at 100%, and my rig is still running at 80 deg. CPU (Ryzen 3600 w/ DRP4) and 45 deg. GPU
I don't understand why my CPU is still getting so hot even with a good cooler and decent ambient temps. I should also mention I'm using the NR600 for my case so the problem isn't about getting choked off
water cooled or air cooled?
Got to say having an all SSD build is so nice.
Means I can just pick it up and point it where I want heat.
its a dark rock pro 4 that hes using @lapis gulch
i see
the only things that i can think of are bad mounting pres. or shit thermal past
the fans are running properly right?
@split barn
Uh yes. They're 5x Arctic F12s. 2 front, 2 top, 1 back
Arctic F12s and F14s are great, but at about 60% power they got a fan noise if you can hear it
My hearing has been shot due to years of marching band so, that's fortunately a plus 😅
oof
It's barely louder than my AC rn
when my CPU has an estimated PPD 20 times lower than that of my GPU, is there any point to CPU fold? Obliviously it still is a small increase but would you consider it worthwhile?
It really depends.
Sometimes the difference between rank 98 and 101 is the additional 40k your cpu can pull
well since I'm not in the current monthly challenge I'll stop CPU folding for now 😄
my 4770k with folding on all cores does slightly better than 2 cores of this Ryzen CPU
Whats power draw though?
my i3 8100 has better power efficiency and does more than my 4790
I haven't looked at that. I guess older is less efficient ? so my 4770 would be in the same ballpark as your 4790
More efficient cpus are definitely better for compute projects, even when the tdp is being limited. Haven't had my 16t slot sit idle for a week now which is nice
it did it again
Wow
@high willow Honestly if it is a machine only used for folding I would grab a small SATA SSD and replace the drive, then install ubuntu or similar on that and it is likely that the problems would be solved. would probably cost you 15-20 USD
yeah I've been meaning to do that
just sucks that it looks like that drive is dying since it was a 500gb one I wanted to put in my gaming rig for more storage
what's weird is it always boots back up no problem
Could a mining motherboard with all the pcie slots to run pcie risers for a folding rig.
Yea. If it's good enough for mining, it's good enough for folding
What would you recommend for cpu and mobo
using less than x4 PCIe will lead to the cards not producing their full potential
What’s folding?
Folding@home is a network of volunteer computers distributed around the world that aims to perform biomedical research with the single intent of helping to further understand and develop cures for a range of diseases such as; Alzheimer's, cancer, and Parkinson's. The exact research that is done is simulating the 'folding' of proteins in the body, this is important because the function of a protein id directly related to its physical shape. And this, when the protein is created in the body it needs to reshuffle its shape to get into the correct structure to perform its task. Many illnesses can be linked to faulty proteins in the body such as many cancers and neurological issues, along with a wide number of other general health concerns. @fierce coral
Ok
@serene magnet I second what Spectrum says, unlike mining folding has constant communication between the CPU and GPU.
As far as I'm aware mining specific boards using risers are PCIE 1x 3.0, in my opinion that would severely hamper folding
That being said mining specific GPU's do a pretty decent job, especially if you get them used.
@hushed bobcat if anything id be looking at some used 480s or 580s
When did the folding event end?
yes get like 10 gtx 480s and you can turn off your central heat while also fighting covid
i see no downside here
@serene magnet personally I would not recommend anything that old.
The generational improvements are massive between 500 and 1000 series
I'll give you an example
I have 2 660ti's and 4 p106-90's
I get around 180k PPD on the 660's and 380k on the p106's
The 660 draws 130 Watts while the p106 draws 75 Watts
It's nearly double the amount of work done at almost half the power draw
BTW I bought those p106's off eBay for $25 each
Even if you got the 580's for free I don't feel it's worth it, they are just too old at this point.
Im not going to write a blog post given the fact that I just woke up and Im probably not going to be awake for much longer, heres the ranks. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EviFUruJTD8eaxQ5weMilU2Dwkry_3isKg_RCVxWt98/edit?usp=sharing Please remember that this is a frie...
How many more days in the event?
I was trying to get an old Inspiron for $150 for a Blue Iris Rig with a full size card
Guy hasn’t replied yet though
RX 580 did about 400-500k PPD last time I checked
How many more days in the event?
@stark bough ends on Sunday 15th at 23:59 GMT
Just got to hold out till then
Ends on the 15nd
lol
what's the Estimated TPF that appear on the client advanced control ?
I've seen it vary quite a bit from project to project
Projects have different atom counts so the simulations will vary in time per frame depending on hardware
Some frames may be longer or shorter depending on complexity
ok, so it does not necessarily mean that my setup is less suited for a project if I have higher TPF, just that it might be a more complex project
Some projects will prefer some hardware but generally its just a metric for completion time
"TPF - Time Per Frame means how long it takes to finish 1% of the assigned WU. 1% of a WU is equal to one frame."
It takes time to calculate the TPF and generate an average. So getting a new WU and basing everything on that is not a good metric
Generally let it run and the counts will become more accurate
Holy hell. a Single card upgrade will basically Triple/quadruple my output.
A single card matching my output at 1/2 the power would be nice 😂
Gimme those Ti ampere tho
my 1070 only gets 1.3M
i could probably single card into the 60s if I had one of those.
Wish my vega was still doing 1.4m lol
In first place we have Den-Fi, who god so close to two billion points, but with 1,998.91 million points he certainly has no reason to be labelled as anything other than a crazy cat GPU lady, Macaw2000 takes second place with 1,374.61 million points, and rodarkone in sitting in...
Holy hell. a Single card upgrade will basically Triple/quadruple my output.
@stark bough Where did you find those rankings? Curious to see where my card ranks
look up LAR systems
oh sweet thank you
It’ll be nice to give my ears a break once the folding month finishes and/or I get the new/replacement case fans
lol I've been meaning to do a pump fan mod. been putting it off for a while.
@gilded spruce What kind of fans and how many?
@stark bough Right now just the stock ones that came with my case the HAF XB EVO, gonna be decking out all the mounts except the top 200mm with Arctic fans
Yeah. my 140mm siezed.
Ive been loving my arctics so far, really cost effective, good benches, and the price point is on it.
Yeah, they’re a better bargain than the noctua chromax’es
Hodware scientist noticed something that others seem to not. at certain RPMs the motor makes a noise.
Oof. What pitch?
I'm running both an a12x25 and a P14 at max right now. If the room is say...
40 db and over 60%, I can hear it.
Initial video: https://youtu.be/QnBo9bTRsxk
Check prices on Amazon below
Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM: https://geni.us/Dzcd
Arctic P12 PWM: https://geni.us/iFabpEN
Gentle Typhoon PWM: https://geni.us/bBPmqA
Silverstone Air Blaster 120R: https://geni.us/v3Fbzg
BeQuiet Silent Wings 3: ...
I'm thinking of putting an a12x25 in my Ts-451+
Hmm, I’ll have to check it out later on. It’s not like mosquito-tone territory though is it? (~15kHz)
can you hear mosquito?
Yeah
then yes.
I'd buy a fan, try it out. you can always find a use for a p12 anyway
I'll probably move my a12x25 standard to my NAS and get a black one next year.
still havent decided if I want to go all Noctua brown on the fans or do black and toss in a few Chromax a12x25s for the rads.
ooof.
My folding rig takes up 272-313@ folding.
My ultrasonic/Warm mist humidifier max output? 272W
A GPU is just a room heater with Coil Whine.
@rich turtle What fan speeds do you run your B9s and case fans at, and what temps do you shoot for on noc noc?
I run all the fans at 69% since I still can't hear them. CPU tops out at 65, no PBO or anything. @stark bough
I'm tempted to go 120/140MM dual tower but the 90mm form factor just looks so nice.
Obviously d15 or bust lol the fuma seems to do ok for sff builds
u9 chromax is pretty tempting for my htpc
Wish newegg still offered bulk pricing on ippc lol
Oh ill show u folding
is that a threat
Idk is it?
i'm not sure, which was why i asked
I mean it does fill the case nicely.
Thing is im running a hybrid right now. wondering how the hoses will clear under it.
Also I'm thinking about removing the front HDD tray and adding lower intake.
In regards to the issue of the corrected end date of the event that was raised on the event thread today, it was decided that the revision will stand, the event will be concluded on the 15th of November as planned. Also, due to this, future events will have new rules. We have ...
Hi guys, I haven't scrolled up too much to check, but I'm curious how many ppd do the 3080 and 3090 pump out
I know the 3070 does roughly 3.4mil
@thorny inlet
3090 ~6m ppd
3080 ~4m ppd
tyty
Top 150 should get a sticker pack 
When someone tries to
everyone
🎣
When a person cares more about the digital security of their assets in some gaming platform than on their actual ledger.
I love that fishing thing. Very smort
Can someone let the necessary people know that marknd59 has been taken to emergency & will not be available to complete whatever tasks had been set for him - some competition.
Thanks for letting us know.
Tell him to take care.
@tired crow
Thanks for letting us know. Take care.
`In regards to the issue of the corrected end date of the event that was raised on the event thread today, it was decided that the revision will stand, the event will be concluded on the 15th of November as planned.
Also, due to this, future events will have new rules. We have always tried to keep rules to a minimum as folding events are supposed to be fun community events based on mutual respect and understanding. These rules have been mostly decided and we are awaiting approval by the mod team, but they will most probably be announced on the awards ceremony post. `
Anyone know whats up with this? Is this about the end date?
@rich depot
Mark is out
`In regards to the issue of the corrected end date of the event that was raised on the event thread today, it was decided that the revision will stand, the event will be concluded on the 15th of November as planned.
Also, due to this, future events will have new rules. We have always tried to keep rules to a minimum as folding events are supposed to be fun community events based on mutual respect and understanding. These rules have been mostly decided and we are awaiting approval by the mod team, but they will most probably be announced on the awards ceremony post. `
Anyone know whats up with this? Is this about the end date?
I know there was some confusion about when the event ended, what with the thing saying 5 weeks or whatever. I'm not too sure that would require a rule or something. I was thinking about pming someone like den or spec
did they drop out?
Noticed 5 people above me just didnt fold last week.
Oh lol
got cold last night so recruited an extra CPU rig to warm up the house.
Mark has been taken to the Emergency room, currently I have no other details than this but can we all ensure he has our best wishes and are in our prayers(If you prayer that is).
In the meantime the last few days of the event will run as normal; if any other issues come up I will be sure to let you know.```
- GOTSpectrum, via the ltt folding month thread
@proper fractal
I know there was some confusion about when the event ended, what with the thing saying 5 weeks or whatever. I'm not too sure that would require a rule or something. I was thinking about pming someone like den or spec
The new rules will be to deal with what happened on the event thread, further discussions about this is strongly discouraged, if there is anything in particular you;d like to discuss you are free to DM me here or on the forum
@stark bough Some people choose to stop folding after they hit the min reqs
Den-Fi continues to sit on the throne with 2,124.04 million points, next us sitting in second place we have Macaw2000 in second place with 1,499.72 million points and rodarkone is in third place with 971.27 million points. Unilevers, the makers of tasty snacks is in fourth pla...
did they drop out?
@stark bough I had to stop folding due to power bill went
?
lmg warship probably deleted it
we getting an update today?
spec got mildly injured he said(fell down iirc). he said he still had plans to write the blog and everything today, tho we're here sooooo
nvm post is up
In first place we have the venerable Den-Fi with 2,212.69 million points, second place is filled by Macaw2000 who outproduced the king this time around with 1,573.11 million points and third place is taken by rodarkone with 1,009.08 million points. The maker of snacks galore t...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D6rVPagOEHtaVd3z1c_YpBfMR4Lx7mJmK-1iegLWIu8/edit?usp=sharing
my forum session timed out and I wasn't getting notifications so I didn't see blog post :/
37,537,799.
going to try to keep 135
Any tips on F@H b eing unable to use my GPU on a linux machine? it can see it in system info but i cant seem to get it to use it
You most definitely can gpu fold on linux, as long as you configure it properly
What card do you have @elder hill
Evga rtx 2060
Why Linux: It will run well on older hardware that can be re purposed for a dedicated folding machine. You can disable automatic updates. It will perform 5-10% better than Windows due to Driver and OpenMM Core 21 issues in Windows. I have found it to be more stable than Window...
FAH should pick up the card automatically once you have the drivers installed, but dont use too new of a distro or you might run into issues with python compatibility
Its recommended you stay on anything based on python 2 (ubuntu 18) and whatever the latest nvidia driver is
Im trying to use my main machine to fold so I dont really want to use an old distro. maybe once I get started with this I can work that out
Although they must have updated F@H control. Its running fine in a modern distro
Idk I wasnt able to get fahcontrol to work on linux mint20 (ubuntu 20/python3) but that was a few months ago
Maybe if you can install 2 on a newer distro as a workaround
so the requirements were 20 days of activity, 500K points, and 40 WUs
if I passed 500k points, is it a shoein that I have 40 WUs? i'm not seeing WUs listed as data on the point breakdown sheets
Not necessarily if you were folding on low power hardware, best to xref your EOC stats page to view totla WUs over 5 weeks
@fickle needle
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/
Latest news for EOC F@H stats. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!
@proper fractal Thank you for helping out with posting here and keeping everyone up to date
anytime speccy
Speccy... 🤮
lol
anyone else having trouble with getting assigned a work server with a lan ip address?
is it happening to a GPU slot in specific?
i cant figure out how to use wine on ubuntu please help me lmfao
@rich depot You need #tech-support for something like that
ok
Folding month is finished! Thanks all who participated
it's all done. I can't remember if spec said he was going to wait to post blog and results before or after prizes are selected and everything
I think hes going to wait since Mark is handing some prize vouchers
Though the amazon vouchers will need to wait until Mark returns as they're done through his account
Data grab successful, me and bigfoot are watching the launch, will get to validating after that
- spec
And it’s only getting colder
Peace and quiet at last
The coil whine will always be with you
Everyone who participated:
These are the preliminary stats, this is a list of everyone, even those that did not meet the minimum requirements as I think it is important to celebrate everyone who got involved! The awards ceremony will be posted sometime in the next 48 hours if all goes to plan so keep yo...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UNC7iVqdMseNA61SLyjH1xB56Wq4212l46ObWMAYU-k/edit?usp=sharing
well, I'm at exactly 250, having made 8394945 points
@stark bough You have no idea 😫
First part of the event it was problematic cause we also had a heat wave.
Now I need at least 250-300W of heat in the main room to keep temps comfortable in the house.
worst part was Windows 10 getting more and more insistant about completing updates as the month went on
I do on my workstation and server
You could delay windows updates for the duration of the event tho
I have mint19 dual booted for fun
Now I need at least 250-300W of heat in the main room to keep temps comfortable in the house.
@stark bough why not keep folding? that's what I'll do at least
helping that coronavirus research WWW
Oof some new CPU units out now that doubled my slot ppd. Also had a looksie at 3970x doing 1.3m ppd KEKW
did they ever announce whatever happening to the LTT folding server? looksl ike it's online, just not giving any jobs
When are rewards/results getting announced?
either today or tomorrow
amazon credit/vouchers will be delayed until mark gets back as they're done through his account
Yeah. Not pushing him or anything. He can take as long as he needs to. Just that I lurk on forums and don’t always check in
Wrong channel my bad
Do we have folding specs on those AMD computer focused cards? Was thinking those would be pretty nice to have if secondhand
Think i should leave my pc on overnight and continue to fold?
temps are pretty good at around 80c with a max of 93c for cpu and 57c with a max of 61c for gpu
should i stop and give my system a break overnight
its been running for probably 18 hours now 12 of which are folding at home
think ima give it a break LMAO
as long as it isnt overheating electronics dont really need a "break"
Temps were in check so I folded all 35 days lol really its up to if you want to deal with the heat or bills
Also how come now the moonshot WUs are higher ppd now KEKW
Re: prizes for folding month
Spec said he has some stuff to do. When he's finished he will try to do awards ceremony. If it isn't done today it will be fine tomorrow (he lives in the UK for reference)
my hot coolant made my cpu hit 100c
@rich depot you shouldn't be folding on your main rig if you're worried about its longevity, and if its not your main rig, so what if it breaks?
The fun of folding in some part is to check your sustained temps at 80%-100% lod
Waiting for 6800XT ppd numbers 
Looking at getting another rig. Probably a 9100 rig
What kind of cards can I look at for something with a 350 W PSU
Probably anything that only needs a single 8pin? Use a gtx1080 (or any pascal card really) as the search floor maybe
Since you're on a power budget I'd try to go with an RTX 2060
Ladles and Gentlespoons, it has to be said that quality has made up for quantity this year, we may be thin on the group but we have sure made up for that with the inane level of production we have seen during the third annual folding month. what this month lacks in surprises a...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dumkSds8IVaMQuCMUk6cAdmW8EfIATz8YGAIrJ7r5Ng/edit?usp=sharing
@proper fractal Thanks for doing my job. 🙂
Yea not as messed up as last time which is weird because this time I had more and worst seizures, infact they seem to have cleared up some of the lingering effects of the last time. Best news is no sign off any new cancer it was all caused by brain swelling side effects of the last lot of stereotactic radiotherapy I had back in March.
That's good on the cancer front I guess. I didn't know you had cancer/seizures. Hopefully this don't happen again :)
The fact is you have to live in the real world it is going to happen again sooner or later, the clock has been ticking for me since June 2017, 30% chance of making it 5 years, 5% chance of making it 10 years. A word of advice make the most of your life you only get one shot at it and you never know how long it will be.
what's that?
Curious, theres now two Radeon VIIs in the LAR database with both labelled as vega 20
AMD cards has always been funky in reporting what cards they actually are.
Or the whitelist hasnt been updated yet idk
hi everyone! just made an account on the ltt forums, what do I have to post on the badge request thread to receive that bronze badge? I missed the folding event but I've folded about 2.5M points for the LTT team in the past days.
@supple cypress Just link your EOC profile or FAH donor page
the thing is, the donor page is not just me, it's everyone that has the same donor name combined as F@H does not treat donor name as unique
Use extreme overclocking
folding.extremeoverclocking.net I think
There'll be a search on the side of the page. If you have your user ID, drop it in and select user id. If you only have your username, use that instead. Yours should come up
where can I get my user ID?
I dont think it appears in any of the logs
I get to this: https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=639121
which is again not only my contributions (I've done 2.5M out of the noted 161M total)
F@H stats user summary for Jason. Help Folding at Home fight Coronavirus, further medical research, and prevent diseases with distributed computing!
AFAIK credit is tied to whatever donor name is used
so just use the donor name with the highest contribution? 
@supple cypress If we believe you sign up with a user name this your own you could be disqualified from events or asked to prove it is your own folding account by requesting you stop folding for a period of time. It's best to use a unique name to make sure this doesn't happen
unfortunate I didnt see that advice before starting, so should I change my donor name @rich depot ? I dont want to cheat but was wondering how the point system tracking works since discovering that F@H does not consider names to be unique.
You should choose a unique name for folding. Looks like there's already someone folding for LTT team under "Jason".
After you change names you should also set up a passkey if you haven't already
i already have a passkey
Anyone got their hands on the 6800/XT for folding yet?
yes i do
@fierce steppe my neighbor works for amd so i got it 2 weeks early
same with the 5950x
More importantly, is anyone who has a card submitting to the database
i don't see one in the LAR systems database
if you guys are like me, you tend to accumulate a bunch of not quite gaming level parts and folding is an appropriate battleground in which to push this stuff to valhalla
@deft orbit you want to submit it to Lars system's database so everyone can see results?
@supple cypress You don't HAVE to choose a unique name, but if you don't have one there is a pretty high chance that you will end up getting disqualified for no fault of your own. so it really depends on how many points you've got on that account and if you're willing to give them up. With a folding name like Jason you will almost certainly get pulled from events we there is no way our script can deal with that. It's not your fault, its F@Hs for not having a requirement for unique names or at least public unique keys
Also, sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I seem to always miss DC notifications for some reason
I mean, take it to the extreme, 'I named myself Anonymous, like the cool hacker guys, and now I can't enter the folding competition :('
try updating discord it might help your notifications problems
good shout @tired crow lets see if that helps
You missed the new reply option lol
I just forgot it too lol
how do i add a comment on the form @rich depot
I don't understand what you mean @timber grove
im trying to claim the prize that I got from folding month but I can figure out how to add a comment to do so
just meesage Spec for it
message
i can figure out how to send a message on the form
On the forums please
would you mind telling me how to do that please
thank you
kinda whack they're just one line item
2.8M PPD isn't too bad. Little better than I expected.
Kind of depends which one
Though any of those 3 is still more expensive than a 3070
Id be glad to make 3 mil on my next card.
I was gonna say it might not be an amd favoured project like what im getting on Navi but it seems to be in line with what vega should be getting from what Ive read
Would be nice to know which of the two cards it is but theres only one datapoint
p17311 at 3.7m is def what I'd expect it to be nominally as thats what my navi card does on less cuda heavy (probably) projects
@gray flume
Folding@home (FAH or F@h) is a distributed computing project for simulating protein dynamics, including the process of protein folding and the movements of proteins implicated in a variety of diseases.…
Thanks
Hello friends, i had a question. i have an extra gtx 970 laying around. ius it worth throwing into my cane for folding in addition to my rtx 2070S?
post in any one
sorry. i was just wondering if it would be helpful for folding specifically. ill go to the other channel
oh ok
@stark heath it really depends how much power it uses and is you're happy to eat that cost
My 970 does around 600k
Your 2070S is probably around 3 mil though
With roughly similar power draw
Keep in mind the 970 will probably heat up your case, so your CPU and 2070S will run hotter
How much hotter depends on how good your case is
@stark heath how long has it been since you've looked at your power bill, if its more than a couple months, then go for it, especially if you're currently heating your house (alternatively if you're currently cooling your house I would not)
Also just a heads up moonshot sprint 5 is 95.8% complete atm
However if youre looking for more work to do, the wcg backlog has many months of work to come
The two are sort of unrelated since I dont think moonshot had any cpu units to begin with but oh well
Im in the army and live in the barracks so i dont pay any power bills
If it's not an inconvenience to you I'd say go for it
rad, i spose i will
@stark heath doooo it
Use the advanced client instead of web and you can see your slots more clearly
but y'know same thing applies, if they're fighting to cool the barracks, I wouldn't run it
@rich depot Go into the advanced client in the system tray and re-add cpu slot
on Slots?
Yes
Restart the client and try to re-add?
the default should automatically pick what makes sense
Leave it at -1 to let it decide automatically, generally leave 1 thread per gpu free