folding-and-boinc

[simple tundra]

I don't appear on the list even when I signed up a day ago. I just wanna make sure my sign in actually went through.

[simple tundra]

@rich depot (Sorry for the ping)

[low grove]

same here, do i need to be on the forum to participate?

[opal elbow]

I believe so. It’s tied to your forum account ( this is my first year so I could be wrong)

[low grove]

ah ok, made a forum acct just in case

[rich depot]

Hey guys, sorry I have lots of responsibilities outside of the event

The list was updated a few mins ago, so double check if you are there and it is correct, if there are any issues message me on the forum @simple tundra @low grove

[low grove]

i looked on the spreadsheet and it didnt seem to be any different, is there a link to the current version?

[rich depot]

It's the same link, added all new entries, check the event thread for most recent updates

[low grove]

found it, all set tyty :)

[rich depot]

Awesome, Happy Folding

[simple tundra]

Thanks for the update! I can confirm I'm on the list now. Thanks again for taking the time out of your day to respond.

[rich depot]

Happy to help!

[verbal night]

fired up one machine, not alot, but she goes.

[rich depot]

Are you folding on like an 8CPU system? If not making 32 thread slots make more sense and give you better performance

[verbal night]

i was unsure on the thread makeup, is it 32c?

i can do two 30's when these finish

e5-2696v3 x2

upgraded thinkstation

[rich depot]

Generally you want as many threads as possible per slot to make the best of the Quck Return Bonus

[verbal night]

i understand that, but there used to be a hard limit (don't quote me) in the SMP days

[rich depot]

My system is a 22core 2996V4... wishing I had a dual socket board lmfao

[rich depot]

Hard limit has been 32 threads for at least 3 years

maybe longer

[verbal night]

i've been folding off and on since 08

i don't usually do cpu

[rich depot]

I've been doing DC for a long time, folding for... 7 years

Actually probably longer than that

[verbal night]

(excuse the mess)

[rich depot]

My dedicated folding machine

Love these 2 slot 4070tis from inno3d

I have 3 of them ATM

[verbal night]

i wish the 'katana' 1070ti's took off

only way to single slot is water

[rich depot]

I mean this is basically the modern katana

It's about the most dense compute you can get on air cooling today

[verbal night]

But you can't fill a board like this :/

[low grove]

24 hour check in

[rich depot]

You get more compute in these then anything single slot per slot

[verbal night]

(my next upgrade) https://www.ebay.com/itm/186138652976?hash=item2b56ba7130:g:EdwAAOSwA0BlPCLp&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwFsE%2BKqMavUiqShUXuLnMrGbC8wot3hbKJVtLiMsibWkwjoFSqN3FcC412qhwxEbNtYTdBtEy0YXQgRE7Czjol2TFkNAcqKdAqFLnFEhA6rEtXTrORzOeaA1uiUF0ABJcwGqQ6n9fuyBF%2BQDGyWU7pEivNLWIaWubdvgzx%2BDcrIsb9qrgVO2ztykiiG4RgYc2VueaSbU8v1%2BWt3b3TIPFGMTJEilYazgwHfCRCweZEYeVVjhvaFvqkX62JFLg2Mr3A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-L-qOfvYg

[rich depot]

Let's go! Welcome to folding!

[verbal night]

would rather use risers then?

[rich depot]

I mean, for me I won't be running more than 4 cards these days so it doesn't affect me

[low grove]

current setup, folds when im not doing anything resource intensive

[rich depot]

Power is just far too expensive in the UK

[verbal night]

indeed, forum friend is in eastern europe, it cost like $85 to charge his tesla

[rich depot]

I used to run 7 cards, these three 4070tis use 1/3 the power but product 2-3x the points

[low grove]

wild, costs a couple bucks here

[rich depot]

It's 0.47USD/KwH here

[verbal night]

im at $0.08/kwh where im at

so i dont mind loading up the 220/30a

[rich depot]

That's recently gone down, it was 0.59 until recently

[verbal night]

yikes

[low grove]

$0.09/kwh here

[rich depot]

I do pay a about 3% premium for 100% renewable power but the truth is energy is just stupid expensive here

[low grove]

i mean at least its renewable

[rich depot]

Yeah, I know I use a lot of power so I opted for the renewable option

I'm planning to get an electric car next year after I've learned to drive so renewable makes even more sense for me

[verbal night]

i guess this is a q for the forum, does any of the lmg staff fold?

[low grove]

jake folds

[rich depot]

Jake is folding

https://www.mg.co.uk/new-cars/mg4-ev

[verbal night]

ah, wonder if they ever fire up stuff like that 7gpu supermicros stuff

[rich depot]

Pretty sure this is what I'm going with

[rich depot]

They are folding on a Camino server

I think that's what it's called anyway

[verbal night]

neat

[low grove]

i didnt realize that mg still made cars

[rich depot]

Hahaha yeah they do

The downside is, I would get the car free from the government because I'm disabled, they lend you a new car every 3 years, but they only do it in orange... Luckily for me, I like the orange

[low grove]

orange is an interesting color for them to choose

[rich depot]

So I have to pay £55 a week, but that is for insurance, breakdown cover and all mechanical fixes, tires are included in that. Then after 3 years I get to choose a new car and they take that one away

[rich depot]

Yeah I don't know what that's about

[low grove]

thats crazy

[rich depot]

Yay for being a cripple!

[low grove]

fr

here in the us theyd just serve you a middle finger on a silver platter

[rich depot]

Hahaha rip

But at least you have cheap power

[low grove]

and maybe a disability check if youre lucky

[rich depot]

I really do feel for other disabled people in countries that don't properly look after them

[low grove]

mhm, we have a guy who comes into the sandwich shop i work at regularly asking for money whos deaf and mute

really feel for the guy but it starts to feel like youre being taken advantage of after 2 or 3 times

[rich depot]

I should really do something with all my older GPUs

I have 2x1080, 1x1080ti, 1x 2070, 1x2060, 3* Quadro P4000

[low grove]

wowzers

howd you end up with so many?

[rich depot]

That's just the hardware I don't run anymore, not worth it with the power costs here

[rich depot]

Folding

[low grove]

fair enough

[rich depot]

I buy GPUs to fold, have 3 4070tis now which are far better cards for folding

[low grove]

nice

[rich depot]

I hoping to hit top 400 in the world some time during this folding month

[low grove]

oh wow

top 100k is probably what im gonna shoot for

[rich depot]

Nice

I should get 700m-900m points over the 5 weeks if everything goes to plan. The scary thing is, theres a good chance I won't even make top 10 for the event going from how the guys did in previous years

[low grove]

good luck

[rich depot]

Thanks, same to youu

[low grove]

tyty

[hushed bobcat]

i think ill fire everything up in the morning

[rich depot]

Yeah I got everything going now, my main systems seems to die about once a week for some reason I can't work out

[rich depot]

Hey I was thinking of turning my gtx 770 into a folding gpu

But I wanna know if folding consumes alot of power

[rich depot]

it depends on which card it is, although most of us who fold 24/7 power limit our cards

[rich depot]

Asus gtx 770

[rich depot]

Yeah I'm not going to be looking into that information for you my friend

[rich depot]

There is only one asus gtx 770?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-gtx-770-directcu-ii-oc.b2028

What I mean is, you have the ability to look up the TDP, the power consumption and such yourself. Google if your friend.

I'm talking about overtime

I'm looking at the cost

Is it really worth it to have my gtx 770 folding in consideration to prices

[shell rock]

Is it normal for F@H to only be utilizing 1-2% of my gpu lol

[rich depot]

Nvidia?

Let me guess you are using task manager to see that number?

[shell rock]

6700XT and yes I was lol

I was looking at HWinfo and it was pulling 105W so I was suspicious

[rich depot]

yeah... don't trust task manager, it tell you how much of the 3D engine is being used... Folding is a compute workload

[shell rock]

Gotcha.

Cool. It’s sorted then for my main rig. 6700XT undervolted to about 105W, and the 7700X limited to 90W. Both hover around 60C.

[rich depot]

nice

[shell rock]

My second system is a Ryzen 3600 and GTX 1080

Hope to get it set up tomorrow

It’s in a different location though. Any way I’ll be able to monitor the progress of both via one UI?

I can remote into them of course, but I’d figure I’d ask

[rich depot]

You can add second systems in the advanced control app on V7 clients, on V8 this functionality was removed

[shell rock]

Does this only apply to LAN machines? Or can I add one on a different connection?

[rich depot]

Although I've never tried, I suppose with the right port config you can do it remotely

[shell rock]

Don’t have admin access to either networks unfortunately, so it sounds like I’m monitoring both systems with teamviewer haha

[verbal night]

HFM folding client, set up a free website and ftp to it automatically

[shell rock]

Second system set up, got TeamViewer running on both to monitor while I’m away, looking forward to participating for the first time

[rich depot]

Is there folding for CPUs?

[shell rock]

It uses your whole system if you let it

It even uses my iGPU lol

[rich depot]

Thanks!

[shell rock]

No problem

[hushed bobcat]

TeamViewer uses GPU encode, it may affect your PPD

[shell rock]

I’ll only be using it for a few mins at a time to just check on them every now and then

[humble rover]

Less than an hour to go! am dumb forgor DST

[shell rock]

Is 00:00 GMT, 19:00 EST or 20:00 EST? I’ve gotten conflicting results lol

Google says it’s 5 hours ahead of EST, but when I check a world clock it’s 4 hours ahead

[humble rover]

20:00 EST since DST hasnt ended yet

[shell rock]

Ah okay. Thanks!

[humble rover]

Updated I spread misinformation 🙂

(but fyi you can start folding before the event starts to bank a bit of extra ppd)

[magic condor]

This is my first time folding, I hope I am doing it right

[humble rover]

*🚨 one hour warning 🚨 *

[magic condor]

for???

[magic condor]

oh lmao I'm already folding (I think)

[shell rock]

hahahaha all good

Is there a separate leaderboard for this event (Nov 1st - Dec 6th)? Or is it just the regular one.

[humble rover]

There will be an event specific google doc

[shell rock]

Cool cool

[opal elbow]

24 hour test is good! System stable & temps are good ! Let’s gooooo

[shell rock]

I’m so excited to see how many points I can get, but also fully expecting to get absolutely humbled by people running multi gpu systems lol

[humble rover]

Oh dont even worry about multi gpu systems, we all got rolled when ampere started showing up lol

[opal elbow]

On for sure lol. I’m hopeful to break 100 million but Jake from LMG is running like 8 4090s lol

[shell rock]

Holy hell lol

I’ve just got a 3600 + 1080 system, and a 7700X + 6700XT system.

[opal elbow]

That’s better than my single system lol. Just a 6800Xt and a 5600x

[shell rock]

I sold my 5600x and board to my brother lol

[quick bluff]

I'm just aiming to not be in last place. Not running any GPUs so it will be tough!

[shell rock]

Not gonna lie I’m considering running it on my steamdeck just to see how it’ll do lol. But I don’t wanna nuke the battery by having it running full tilt on the charger either.

[quick bluff]

Quick question, how do I set up the Ubuntu headless server's XML file so that I can control it from within the windows viewer app?

[hushed bobcat]

I can tell you when I get home

[humble rover]

🟩 🟩 🟩

[hushed bobcat]

That's exactly what I do on my Ubuntu headless server

Actually I get more PPD than on Windows with the same hardware

[quick bluff]

Well I have it connected to my laptops client as well as my client on my truenas server.

[hushed bobcat]

Something about network and remote

I think you need a base config file though

If you do I can send you mine, then you can modify as you need

[quick bluff]

Please or if you can, or if you know a site that walks you through it. Either or..

[hushed bobcat]

I think I figured it out from the folding at home website itself

They have a Linux setup section

It's been awhile though

[quick bluff]

I looked at that and went. Blurgh, ooh a pigeon.

[hushed bobcat]

It's Linux though
You jump through 12 hoops to get it working.
Don't touch it for a year.
Then when you need to change or add something you've forgotten everything.

[quick bluff]

Yeah lol

Well it's 12am, I'm going to bed and I'll check the chat when in the morning

[hushed bobcat]

Sorry I won't be home for probably 2 hours

[quick bluff]

No worries, I'll be asleep for the next 7+ hours no rush lol

[hushed bobcat]

Lol

[low grove]

im gonna need to repaste my cpu, temps got to high over the last couple days

luckily i tested it

[shell rock]

I didn’t really get to do a whole lot of extensive testing, but I’m targeting 60Cish on both gpu and cpu on both systems and it seems like it’s going well so far. I’ve got HWinfo running in the background so I’ll be able to monitor average and max temps for the first few days

Also I know the PPD estimates take awhile to become accurate, but it’s odd that my 1080 and 6700XT are showing nearly the same value lol

[humble rover]

Some projects do have a preference

[low grove]

fixed it for now, had some more undervolt headroom in bios

sitting at around 84 on the cpu and 62 on the gpu

still gonna get new paste for the cpu tho, its using the paste that was included with my cooler and i didnt do a great job on the application

[hushed bobcat]

@quick bluff

what you really need is the Remote Command Server and Network sections

of course changing the IP's with your own internal network

config location is /etc/fahclient/config.xml

[shell rock]

Cpu temps got a little higher than I would’ve liked on my 3600 system, but still never got above 70C, so I’m just gonna roll with it. Definitely gonna keep an eye on it though.

[shell rock]

Accidentally left my dorm windows open overnight and ambient temp in my dorm got down to 54F lol

Making my CPU 48C and GPU 38C while folding

[humble rover]

Me back when we were folding on Hawaii but it wasn't an accident 😅

[polar shell]

eh gcn was good at folding, it fell off after rdna
gcn was very good comparitively at this kind of raw compute

[deep fern]

The cold weather is a real boon to folding, I'm up nearly 100 positions on my team and over 20K globally!

[rich depot]

GCN was good until folding got CUDA support... then it just wasn't worth it anymore

[shell rock]

Anyone got an updated google sheet for the participants? I got a link from the forum post but my names not listed, and a few other people mentioned they weren’t on it either.

[rich depot]

First day stats will be posted in around 5 hours

[shell rock]

Cool thank you

[low grove]

wooo

[opal elbow]

How’s everyone doing? I’m a little low at 3 mil a day but that’s okay. 5 weeks will still get my numbers up

Hoping to score the silver badge by the end of the event

[fickle needle]

BOINC is only giving me CPU work units reee

[shell rock]

It’s going pretty well for me so far. Main rig was showing 3.2mil a day before I stopped to game for a couple hours lol. Secondary rig is steady at 1.75mil a day.

[low grove]

just repasted my cpu, expected lower temps but PBO said no and gave me +150 mhz all core

i guess imma just leave it at this point lol

[shell rock]

What CPU?

[low grove]

5800x

[shell rock]

Do you have a CO value set?

And what are you using to cool it?

[low grove]

co is +200 and im using a dark rock pro 4

[shell rock]

That’s your boost override

CO should be negative lol

[low grove]

mb

co is -30

[shell rock]

I doubt that’s stable but sure if it doesn’t crash lol

[pseudo abyss]

Any way to make Advanced control start automatically?

[low grove]

havent had issues with it

[shell rock]

hmmm… you shouldn’t be having cooling issues tbh. Are you only folding with it?

[low grove]

games, folding, benchmarks, everything works fine

folding and light use like discord or web browsing

[pseudo abyss]

F@H does not affect what GPU I am buying when I am buying but I am joning in.

[shell rock]

First of all what temps are you getting lol

[low grove]

its doing better now, its settled in at 81

[shell rock]

Yeah that’s fine tbh. More than I’d like to leave it for extended periods of time, but fine

[low grove]

thats pretty much my thought on it, i may fold with it occaisionally but im mostly gonna just let my gpu do the heavy lifting

[shell rock]

That’s fair. I was gonna tell you to lower your PPT if you were on Ryzen 7000 lol. That’s what I did with mine.

[low grove]

my ppt is set to 140 i believe

[shell rock]

Limited it to 90W, with a -30 CO. Same performance as stock, but with 60W less power draw and 20-25C lower temps lol

7700X

[low grove]

oh nice

i might add that im only running the center fan on my cooler

probably contributing to temps

[shell rock]

Yep. I’ve got my 6700XT going full tilt for folding, but it’s only gotten up to 53C so far lol.

[shell rock]

Yeah probably lol

[low grove]

i just like the look of a giant cube

[shell rock]

I’ve got a DeepCool AK620 on my 7700X

[low grove]

is that the big chunky one?

[low grove]

i think i may have killed the rgb on my fans :(

[opal elbow]

I think next year ima gonna run 2/3 rigs. I’ve got an extra 980 ti and can find some used 20 & 30 series. I’ve got 3 MB & CPUs just need power lol

[shell rock]

This is my first year participating lol, I just happened to have two rigs atm.

[humble rover]

Neat unofficial board https://folding.lar.systems/league/team?id=223518

[low grove]

yo lets frickin go top 100

[opal elbow]

I’m so close lol

Im hoping to get there

[low grove]

im gonna see if i can crack the top 75

also this is based off the unofficial board from chaozbandit

[shell rock]

again, I’m not even on the list lmfao

I wonder if I even got submitted lol

[shell rock]

How many points have you gained since the start of the event?

[opal elbow]

me too! its so exciting!

[shell rock]

W

[low grove]

5.2 mil or something like that not entirely sure

[shell rock]

Ah so I’m probably not top 100 with 2.76 mill then lol

[low grove]

prolly not, but still a massive amount of points i think

i have no sense of scale whatsoever to this bc i only started folding a few days ago

[shell rock]

I find it kinda odd though, my main rig should be doing basically my total gain for the day by itself, and I’ve got a 3600 and 1080 running as well 🤷‍♂️

But I’ve been told PPD values aren’t accurate unless you run it uninterrupted for like a week and then average it out

[low grove]

yeah the first day i started and i was like ooh 7 million ppd thats a lot i think and i ended up making like 2 mil

[shell rock]

I’m hoping they post the official leaderboard soon so I can see if I’m even on the list lol

[low grove]

same im here just waiting

[shell rock]

I’m #115 hell yeah

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Xe1gJ7liF3U9Q7Dw1nH_6z99VirfzTLbPXK_naFeYlA/htmlview

[humble rover]

https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/2185-day-one-fold-me-up-scotty/

[low grove]

im devastated

i was 3k points away from being #69

[shell rock]

hahahahahaha

[low grove]

70th is beyond any expectations i could have ever had, i guess im gonna have to move the goalpost again lol

guess were shooting for top 60

[rich depot]

Hope you all like the post, let me know if there's anything you need or want

[shell rock]

Goal for me now is top 100 lol. Already increased the power limit on my 1080

[hushed bobcat]

its amazing how much you can get on Ryzen 7000 still even after limiting the power target

[shell rock]

Specifically Ryzen 7000, yeah lol. For my 7700X, completely stock it gets 19,600 in R23. Tuned PBO and -30 CO gets it to around 20,800 pulling 150W at 83C. The same -30 CO with a 90W limit gets 19,500 at 63C lol.

[hushed bobcat]

i had something similar with my 7950x

i cant remember exact numbers but i think limiting it to 95w (from the max 230w) only netted a 10% loss in performance multicore

ohh the max was 230w but my cooler was only good for about 190w

still i basically cut the power by 50% and only saw a 10% loss in performance

very impressive IMO

[shell rock]

My example above is a 6% drop in performance for 40% less power lol

Not to mention the 20+C drop in temps which is what was most important for me

And the funniest thing about it, is that the iGPU on my 7700x is making up that 6% performance drop for folding lol

Ambient temp in the room my main rig is in is 14.5C atm lol. I like to keep my dorm chilly.

turns out I can fold at full tilt and play valorant at the same time

Hell yeah

[simple tundra]

💪

I was not expecting to get as far as 69th place, jeez.

[low grove]

ITS YOU

OUR BATTLE SHALL BE LEGENDARY

[low grove]

ive been getting back into minecraft which unsurprisingly runs great while folding

even runs alright with shaders on

[shell rock]

I mean I did lose a bit of performance in both Val and folding while I was playing, but it wasn’t bad enough to be unplayable. Still had well over 200 fps

[low grove]

thats extremely playable, i dont even have a monitor that could take advantage of that many frames

[shell rock]

I don’t either, I just have 144hz, but I like having extra frames for lower latency/input lag

Without folding I play at a locked 400 lol

[hushed bobcat]

Playing Captain of industry while folding, doenst stutter, i get about half my PPD though

[shell rock]

Any of you guys run both AMD and Nvidia GPUs in the same system? If so, what’s the driver situation like? I may be getting my 1650 Super back off my brother this weekend and I was wondering if I could use it in my main rig along side my 6700XT for folding. Would I even need to install the drivers for it?

[shell rock]

took the filters off my intake. Dropped temps by 5 degrees. Mint.

[opal elbow]

I managed to break 15 mil total points! Very excited, I think I’m gonna make bronze by the end of the week and may even make silver badge by the end of the event

[simple tundra]

May the best win this 🤝

[low grove]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[shell rock]

After some adjustments, I’m on track for a 25% uplift in PPD compared to yesterday

So that’s cool

[humble rover]

https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/2186-day-two-shlouski-warp-9-engage/

[shell rock]

Goal was top 100 after being 115 yesterday, and got to #101 lol

[low grove]

65th lets go

[humble rover]

im going backwards

But im toasty like

[hushed bobcat]

went up 2 spots

nice

goes to eBay to try and find deals on used RTX 3000 and 4000 series cards

[shell rock]

felt lol

[simple tundra]

64th 💪

[low grove]

time to overclock the shit out of my gpu

[hushed bobcat]

unfortunately Folding doesnt really benefit from OC'ing

actually setting your GPU to 80-90% power target is usually better overall

[simple tundra]

lmao

[low grove]

better performance or better efficiency?

@simple tundra what kinda hardware you running?

[simple tundra]

I gotcha
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MwNt7R

[hushed bobcat]

efficiency

[low grove]

we dont need that where were going

[simple tundra]

it's been working pretty well for me

at 90%

[hushed bobcat]

you do when you're folding for over a month

[low grove]

pretty much identical to me, except i have a 5800x

[simple tundra]

mmm that's pretty interesting

[low grove]

i would have thought that more cores would have done better

do you have a cause preference set?

[simple tundra]

sorry what's that?

[low grove]

its in config under advanced, basically sets a preference as to what kind of research your compute goes to

[simple tundra]

ah

I set my research pref to high priority

[low grove]

thats what i had as well, i wonder if it makes a difference in value of wus

[low grove]

doesnt really increase the power draw that much

[low grove]

wait whats that\

[simple tundra]

oh it's an extension

[low grove]

does it work for firefox?

[hushed bobcat]

Chrome only

[low grove]

dang

[simple tundra]

well it's from chrome web store, so no :/

[simple tundra]

1.3 mil.. jeez

[hushed bobcat]

?

13 mil

[simple tundra]

I can't read

uh anyway

does this ever just happen randomly

[low grove]

oh wait i just realized

@simple tundra youre folding with your igpu as well

[simple tundra]

it is horribly slow, I would disable it if I could lmao

[low grove]

that makes more sense as to why you have a higher ppd

[low grove]

oh dang that is slow

points are points ig

[simple tundra]

usually takes like a day to finish up too

[simple tundra]

I suppose

[hushed bobcat]

i dont think i can fold with my iGPU?

yea it says disabled

[modest ocean]

can be that its disabled because it does not have a display attached. maybe you need a hdmi dummy.

[hushed bobcat]

possible but unlikely, im folding right now on a headless ubuntu server on another machine

actually now that i think about it i might not have the AMD APU drivers installed because i suspected they were causing instability

[shell rock]

I don’t have anything connected to my iGPU on my 7700X and it folds fine

[hushed bobcat]

Yea I probably just don't have drivers installed

[opal elbow]

May have found a system with a 2080 super in it to file on. Add to my 6800xt

[rich depot]

niceeee

[pseudo abyss]

You can change the graphs to show compute if you want to

[rich depot]

yeah I'm aware

[shell rock]

I just installed a 2060 Super to go along side my 6700XT. Having cards from both manufacturers in the same system is super cursed. I thought I corrupted my windows install lmfao.

[rich depot]

https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/2187-day-three-all-power-to-the-engines/

[shell rock]

TOP 100 HELL YEAH

[humble rover]

Theres so many more people doing 3+m ppd this year 😅

[low grove]

NEW PPD CHART JUST DROPPED

[rich depot]

We know 😉

[low grove]

oh dang i lost like 700k ppd

guess were changing folding preference back to high priority

[rich depot]

time to buy a 4070ti... may I suggest this beautiful 2 slot version https://www.inno3d.com/en/PRODUCT_INNO3D_GEFORCE_RTX_4070_Ti_X3

[low grove]

lets go

[shell rock]

I gained 2 mil somehow

I passed my first days PPD in like 16 hours

[hushed bobcat]

aww i lost 4 spots

[low grove]

you say that like ive got a grand just sitting around

[humble rover]

wdym you dont

We all knew folding month is in november 😉

[rich depot]

Sell a kidney, you have two!

[shell rock]

I mean unless allowing both my GPUs to boost 200Mhz higher gains me 2 million PPD, then idk how lol

But I can’t imagine that’s the cause

[low grove]

lmao

[shell rock]

I can tell folding definitely prefers cuda tho

[humble rover]

A tale as old as time

[rich depot]

I mean... You can thank Nvidia for that, they wrote an entire CUDA library just for folding

[shell rock]

nice lol. My 1080 has damn near kept up with my 6700XT.

[rich depot]

Before the CUDA library a VEGA 64 used to match a 1080ti

[shell rock]

lol nice

[rich depot]

I had both... in the same rig... that was hell

Then I blew the VEGA 64 up.... so yeah...

[rich depot]

Honestly, it's pretty easy these days compared to back then

[shell rock]

Just added a 2060 Super to my main rig lol

[rich depot]

Should have been a 4070ti

[shell rock]

$80 on Facebook Marketplace lol

Bought for the sole purpose of folding

[rich depot]

nice

[humble rover]

This is how the addiction begins

[shell rock]

It only took me 48hrs to become addicted

[rich depot]

yep

Hardest drug going

[shell rock]

I’ll be monitoring the temps in that system very closely for the next couple days

[rich depot]

I get paid in 15 days... another 4070ti???

[shell rock]

After my adjustments they’re around 60–65C

bro stop lol

[rich depot]

what? I used to run 7 cards... now I only have 3 4070tis

[shell rock]

fair enough I guess lol

[rich depot]

I have like 11 GPUs at home atm...

only run the 40 series though cause muh power bill

0.47USD/KWh here

[shell rock]

yikes.

I don’t pay for the power my main rig uses so hell yeah lol

One of the small benefits of being a college student in a dorm

[rich depot]

I miss not paying for power

[humble rover]

I miss having roommates subsidize my utilities 😔

[rich depot]

If I were still in the dorm I would 100% be running every GPU I got a PCIe slot for

[shell rock]

My secondary rig lives at my parents house, so they technically pay for it, but it uses MUCH less power than my main rig so

[rich depot]

Rip

[shell rock]

With how I’ve got them set up, my 3600 and 1080 use less power than my 6700XT by itself lol

[rich depot]

So this is what I've got not running 1080ti, 2* 1080, 2* 2060, 2070, 2* p4000

My 1080 is signed by 5 lmg staff

[shell rock]

Nice

[rich depot]

It was gifted to me for running the team many years ago

[shell rock]

One of the guys that I know on this server has a gpu signed by Splave lol

[rich depot]

I have no idea who that is

[shell rock]

World Record Overclocker

Has done a vid or two with LMG

[rich depot]

Ah okay

I'm Terrible with names tbh

[shell rock]

happens lol

[rich depot]

Right time for me to get in bed and do this all again tomorrow, night all... Be a good folder, buy a 4070ti

[shell rock]

wait how much does PCIe lanes effect folding power

cause I’m pretty sure my 2060 Super is running in x4

[shell rock]

Goodnight!

[low grove]

i would imagine its similar to crypto mining where it doesnt affect it at all, but im not sure

edit: was not sure

[hushed bobcat]

actually it does

[rich depot]

PCIe bandwidth is massivly important

Folding data is held in system ram not VRAM due to issues with the compression used in GDDR

[hushed bobcat]

i did some testing with mining cards with PCIE 2.0 1x interfaces and saw the GPU usage wouldnt even maintain 100%

[low grove]

thats interesting, good to know

[hushed bobcat]

is that why you need 1 or 2 threads per GPU for folding? all that data moving around

[rich depot]

Correct

[hushed bobcat]

nice

PCIE 3.0 x4 would probably be enough for folding

borderline

[rich depot]

that depends... PCIe 3.0 x8 is not fast enough for a 2080ti without dropping about 5% of the PPD

[shell rock]

Damn

Yikes okay. Hopefully it’s not too bad then.

[opal elbow]

O this will be a second system lol it’s going in the basement that’s ambient 50f

[shell rock]

nice nice lol

also, from what I’ve read about it, for PCIe bandwidth and folding, the consensus ranges from “it’s massively important” to “it doesn’t matter for compute workloads”….

[simple tundra]

ooof

[shell rock]

does vram speed on GPUs matter much for folding?

[humble rover]

IIRC slight bump but stability is most important

feelsbadman got WUs with less than 50% usage on the gpus lol

[shell rock]

I just yolo’d a +100 core and +700 memory on the 2060 Super I installed yesterday lmao

it hasn’t crashed so fuck it

but that’s probably cause I have it power limited

as long as the temps are under control, and core frequencies don’t take a massive hit, then idgaf lol

[humble rover]

Welp. UPS battery alarm just tripped

[hushed bobcat]

@rich depot You seen this before?

[rich depot]

Yes... OCin will do that... even a factory OC can cause it

[hushed bobcat]

uhh

[humble rover]

Check your logs, probably bad checkpoints

[hushed bobcat]

this is on my ubuntu headless

i dont even know how to OC it

[rich depot]

Pretty much all cards are OCd

Sometimes the factory OC isn't stable enough for folding

[hushed bobcat]

true

cuda error compat not supported on device?

well i was thinking about adding my old 1080Ti to the folding effort

i guess ill shut down the system and add it

because im guessing turning it off and back on again is the only way to fix it

[hushed bobcat]

you think ill need to delete that WU from the cache folder?

honestly not sure where it is in Linux....

[rich depot]

You have to delete the slot and remake it

[hushed bobcat]

ahh

well ill remake both when i add the GPU

i just noticed im running driver 525 and 535 is the latest

maybe ill try and update?

idk updating linux drivers are kinda scary

[rich depot]

this may be of interest to you

[hushed bobcat]

interesting

[shell rock]

Is there a benefit to folding on Linux vs Windows? Less overhead maybe?

[humble rover]

There used to be noticeable ppd gains on linux if you wanted to deal with the hassle (probably easier now with mature drivers)

[shell rock]

does Linux still struggle with Nvidia drivers/hardware or?

[rich depot]

Yeah the people on the team who have dedicated folding machines run Linux as standard these days as it gets 10% or so better performance

[rich depot]

Linux never really struggled with that, the issue has always been not wanting to use proprietary blobs

[hushed bobcat]

i can also confirm i get better performance folding on linux

[humble rover]

Can also confirm gains on dual boot on pascal

[shell rock]

Interesting. I may look into then. I have both my machines on windows atm.

Are there any issues with running both Nvidia and AMD on the same system on Linux? It took me nearly 2 hours to get windows to cooperate with it last night lmao

[hushed bobcat]

if i recall something that helped me was plugging my monitor into my onboard video on Windows

having the GPU not output anything got me a PPD increase

[shell rock]

I do have one machine that’s running just a pascal card so I may install Linux

[shell rock]

Interesting. My rig with the 6700XT and 2060 Super does have an iGPU that also folds for about 20k PPD lol. My system with just a 1080 does not have an iGPU though.

[hushed bobcat]

52.6MB nvidia driver lol

[shell rock]

What software do you guys use to tune your hardware on Linux? I have undervolt/power limit profiles on windows with very aggressive fan curves lol

[opal elbow]

What if I were to run a VM on my windows machine?

[shell rock]

I can’t imagine that would be better

[hushed bobcat]

VM's generally have a 10-20% loss in performance

[opal elbow]

Sad

[humble rover]

Bare metal is ideal

[opal elbow]

I don’t want my main rig to be Linux right now lol

[hushed bobcat]

thats just from what ive seen people running gaming windows VM's from within linux

[humble rover]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1259546-how-to-undervolt-nvidia-gpus-in-linux/

Should still be applicable on later releases

[shell rock]

I have like 3 SSDs in my main rig, one I’d be willing to sacrifice for a Linux install lol

[hushed bobcat]

maybe this has something to do with it?

[opal elbow]

Ive got a friend who game me a dead PC. It has a 2080 super. I’m hoping to get it fixed & add my old 980ti and have a dedicated machine

[shell rock]

I’d basically just need an afterburner alternative, I’ll take a look at this

[opal elbow]

Possibly stupid question. Is bionic GOU based or CPU ?

[hushed bobcat]

cool

[humble rover]

Did you mean BOINC? It can compute on both

[rich depot]

Yeah, that's a pet peev of mine lol

[shell rock]

I’m not super confident using the CLI in Linux to that degree. Like I’ve installed repositories and whatnot from CLI but i have no idea what’s going on there lol.

[hushed bobcat]

black magic

you know how hard i was sweating using the CLI to update my nivdia drivers just now? lol

[opal elbow]

Yeah sorry idk what I typed there lol. And good to know. Gonna get a this second rig dedicated to folding & maybe do a little of the BOINC too. More interested in folding, but digging the badges on the forum

[shell rock]

From what I’m reading, i could probably get the drivers set up fine. My only concern is how I’m gonna tune my hardware because nearly all the software i use on windows to do that isn’t supported on Linux lol

[hushed bobcat]

do you think the tuning is persistant between reboots?

i know quite a few things with reset to factory after a reboot unless you make changes to a specific file in linux

not sure if that applies here though

[shell rock]

I double check and re-apply profiles when i reboot lol

[hushed bobcat]

i might try the tuning myself

like i said im going to add a 1080 Ti to the rig here in a min

[shell rock]

I mean i kinda have to unless i want all my hardware running 80C+ for hours at a time

[hushed bobcat]

i folded with that card a ton on windows and found 80% power is a good number

[shell rock]

Especially in my main rig. Not a whole lot of breathing room lol

my general thing is i try to get the highest clock speeds, with the lowest power draw, and decent thermals

[hushed bobcat]

im not going to touch the clock

just reduce power limit

BRB going to install card

[shell rock]

My 1080 and 2060 Super gets stock clock speeds at 70 and 63 percent power limits, respectively

[hushed bobcat]

the things we do for folding....

[shell rock]

yep lol

[hushed bobcat]

oh no

so the power supply i thought was in the folding rig

is on a shelf in the other room

so now i need to do a power supply swap too lol

[humble rover]

Fun

[shell rock]

Id be willing to try to swap my 3600 + 1080 rig to Linux, but my 1080 has a not good cooler on it so if I don’t have tuning software idk if I want to

because if I don’t power limit that card it just runs at 85C lmao

[shell rock]

oh fuck that lmfao

I was dreading just adding one cable for my 2060 Super lmao

[hushed bobcat]

Well I think I have a cheapo PSU in that system

Because a buddy of mine needed to borrow the XFX 850 out of it when he got a 3090

Hold up, it's got a seasonic prime titanium in it ..

I thought that was in my main system?

I are very confused

[shell rock]

hahahaha

if it makes you feel better, I’ve got an EVGA G5 750W running my main rig, and a fucking random 400W HP PSU running my second rig lmao

that’s my 3600 + 1080 rig

[low grove]

bomb has been planted

[shell rock]

I mean it’s 80+ Gold but that doesn’t really mean shit lol

[hushed bobcat]

Sweet

3060 Ti getting toasty with the oven of a 1080 Ti under it lol

ahh you know what, the case fans are tied to the CPU, i should just set those to 100% in the BIOS

... well that was easy

granted i probably need to turn on this persistence mode

SOO CLOSE

i am satisfied now

[shell rock]

damn lmao you’re like 3x my PPD

well, not quite 3x, but close

[hushed bobcat]

its all the 4080

its pulling 14.5-15mil all on its own

while consuming about 250w

3060 Ti 3mil PPD while consuming 160w

1080 Ti 2.5mil PPD while consuming 200w

i think the WU on the 1080 Ti right now is a high output one, because i didnt expect much over 2mil on the 1080 Ti

woo look at that RX and TX on the 1080 Ti

if im understanding correctly thats the activity on the PCIE Bus

its averaging around 3GiB/s on the RX

[shell rock]

damn the 4080 alone beats my total PPD between two CPUs and 3 GPUs lol

[hushed bobcat]

I turned the power limits back up, APC is running pretty hard

[hushed bobcat]

Does anyone know if they can use the Lar systems extention to monitor another client?

id like to have that nice interface on my remote folding system

[humble rover]

No its local only, but you can use something like HFM

Are we sharing ?

[hushed bobcat]

RIP EVGA

[rich depot]

I hope they stay in business long enough so I can make an EVGA build.

[shell rock]

I hope they start making GPUs again, just not for Nvidia lol

[rich depot]

That'd be dope.

[rich depot]

what case is that?

[humble rover]

Fractal node 605

[rich depot]

Thanks.

[humble rover]

https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/2188-day-four-justaphf-set-phasers-to-fold/

[shell rock]

still climbing hell yeah

Good to see everyone still going strong

[hushed bobcat]

i fell another spot 😭

with the new gear hopefully i can stay in the 20's

[shell rock]

my goal is to just stay in the top 100

making the best out of the hardware I have lol

I think the only chance I have of increasing my PPD though, would be switching to Linux

[hushed bobcat]

i mean you will see an improvement

but its not a ton

[shell rock]

Theoretically I will be buying a gpu upgrade for my main rig for gaming eventually. So next time my most powerful gpu won’t be a 6700XT lol

I’ve unironically been eyeing the 4070ti, but I can’t afford it right now. Hoping it gets a little cheaper by the time I would be able to.

[rich depot]

Hope you all are enjoying the blogs and not just the sheets lol

I'm just DMing everyone who has yet to start folding

urgh... they can't say I didn't try

[shell rock]

oh I’ve been reading the blogs lol

good to read about who’s been shaking the leaderboard up

[humble rover]

Every year there are people who forgor to sign up, and those who ask about minimum reqs halfway through 😅

[rich depot]

YEPPPP That is exactly why they are all getting a DM this year

[shell rock]

Are the minimum requirements still subject to change? I noticed it went from 400k to 500k already.

[rich depot]

I can't sleep anyway cause I need a EEG and scan on my brain after not sleeping so thought this is a good use of my time

[rich depot]

Minimum requirements never change during an event

[shell rock]

Gotcha

[rich depot]

They have also been the same for the last 3 events, so will likely increase for Folding Month VII

[rich depot]

I'm curious where you saw 400k?

[shell rock]

On the original post I think, I’ll try to find it

nevermind it says 500k

maybe my brain swapped the 5 and 4 from the 40WU requirement

[rich depot]

Possibly, thanks for double checking thogh

though* urgh dyslexia

I'm so glad I don't have DM limits anymore... geez that took a while

[humble rover]

Appreciate the effort as always!

[rich depot]

Thanks! It's all part of the fun

I got IP blocked a couple of times for sending too many DMs lol... Had to do the Email of shame to mortis

[shell rock]

rip lol

also I’m literally out of PCIe slots so no more buying GPUs for folding

[rich depot]

That's why I have a different title on the forum, the "Folding Team Leader" title only exists so I don't get IP banned again

I could house another 8 slots worth of GPUs

Thinking I may recommision the 2070

[shell rock]

yeah well I’m on a regular ATX board lmao

[rich depot]

I am on a regular atx board... just x99 lol

[shell rock]

you know what I mean lol

[rich depot]

44 lanes with a xeon haha

If I win the lottery yknow I'm getting a dual EPYC system

[shell rock]

I was about to say is this the part where I start looking at Xeon workstations on ebay lol

[hushed bobcat]

even single EPYC is alot of lanes

[rich depot]

You don't gain lanes when going dual btw

half the lanes of each CPU are used for IF coms

[hushed bobcat]

you know i think first gen epyc is pretty reasonable on ebay

hmm i thought you still had a net gain

[rich depot]

On the most recent gen it is possible depending on vender

As they made it configurable

[shell rock]

Either way, I’m too broke to be buying purpose built hardware for this rn lol

[rich depot]

Me too atm

[shell rock]

Okay let me rephrase; I’m a college student that’s between jobs right now kinda broke

[rich depot]

I don't technically work

[shell rock]

Well you have multiple 4070tis so I think you’re doing okay lol

[rich depot]

I do some freelance stuff here and there but my disability limits me

[shell rock]

Fair fair

[rich depot]

I'm currently writing a novel, this is me being lazy

looking at epyc on aliexpress

[hushed bobcat]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364546727431?hash=item54e0ad9e07

i mean 24 cores 48 threads

3 usable pcie 16x slots

would prefer 4 though for folding

but that price is hard to beat

i mean i paid just about that much for my current rigs motherboard...

seller has other options

7551p is $389

[low grove]

yall have too much disposable income

[shell rock]

That’s what I’m saying lmfao

[hushed bobcat]

well most of my stuff is like

$50

[humble rover]

.

[hushed bobcat]

like i got a dual CPU system thats 10 year old Xeons just for folding

its just too inefficient

[humble pollen]

you have too little disposable income

[humble rover]

One of my nodes is my first PC on a phenom II - not efficient at all but I just chuck spare gpus at it because thats whats on hand 😅

Some days I wonder how many of those og bigadv rigs are still up

[shell rock]

Well the thing is, is that I usually sell my old hardware to offset the cost of new hardware

Right now is the most GPUs I’ve ever owned at once, being 3

[shell rock]

main rig and second rig lol

[rich depot]

I'm thinking this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275785279655?hash=item40361568a7:g:79cAAOSwmCVkL9xE

compared to my current Xeon

[low grove]

me rn:

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

[rich depot]

?

hahaha

[low grove]

slowmode

[rich depot]

ya

96 juicy threads.... Btw guys... we may be able to hook you up with some old server hardware towards the begining of next year... stay tuned

[low grove]

sick

[rich depot]

Got someone currently working on taking inventory at their job before a bunch of stuff goes to e-waste (they work at a hosting company/data centre)

[hushed bobcat]

little pricier than mine

[hushed bobcat]

depending on the age i would def be interested

[rich depot]

If it works out as planned it will be just pay shipping

[low grove]

id be interested in it regardless of age

[rich depot]

I mean, will likely be 2011V3 stuff maybe some newer stuff but not much newer

Same age as my current Xeon, X99 era

[low grove]

ive been looking at that kind of stuff for hosting game servers

[hushed bobcat]

yea i have that stuff already

what about chassis?

i like Supermicro chassis pretty much regardless of age

[rich depot]

no idea yet, but will keep you all informed as always

[low grove]

tysm man

[rich depot]

The agreement though is you need to use the hardware for DC events... outside of events do what you want with it

[low grove]

oh ofc

id probably fold with it when its not being used anyways

[rich depot]

Makes sense

I'm thinking I may do a round of Emails to hosting providers to see if they wanna get in on the action

[opal elbow]

Is that for anyone who is willing to fold on it? I’d be happy to run a 24 hour set up in my basement

[rich depot]

Exact plan is not set in stone yet! But I'll be sure to let you all know when I know

[opal elbow]

I’ll keep following the forums too incase it gets. Updated there. I didn’t realize how much of a kick folding was gonna get me but waking up every day and showing my daughter the “doctors we helped to day” is really something special

[rich depot]

Follow me is the best way to keep up to date with everything folding related on the forum https://linustechtips.com/profile/491450-gotspectrum/

[opal elbow]

Done, your my first follow, Also shouldnt you be in bed? its like 5:30 am for you right now? haha

[rich depot]

I have to stay awake urgh

I'm having an EEG and MRI on my brain today and have to be awake for atleast 24 hours for it

also it's 4:30

[hushed bobcat]

you are required to be awake for 24 hours?

[rich depot]

Yeah

[hushed bobcat]

thats weird

sounds almost dangerous really

[rich depot]

I don't understand it, I just do as I'm told, something something rare neurological condition life

[rich depot]

We need more power

[hushed bobcat]

is that the whole team?

[rich depot]

yes

@steel arch ^^

[next nest]

Let my grand cancellation begin

[steel arch]

what is that

[next nest]

Ohh, it's not allowed lol

[hushed bobcat]

i feel like the bump on 10/27 through 10/29 was just Jake firing up his server with what was it 8 4090's?

[next nest]

Sorry it's an article

[rich depot]

Don't post random files, also this section is for folding and BOINC content only

[next nest]

Ohhh

Notedddd

[rich depot]

No worries, you could upload it to a Google doc file and post the link in the appropriate section

[hushed bobcat]

what is banano.cc?

7000 active users?

[rich depot]

Crypto

[hushed bobcat]

i thought that was Curecoin

[rich depot]

It's the new crypto to do folding

[shell rock]

Yes please do I’m very interested. I’ve always wanted to tinker with server level hardware. Plus you guys have started my folding addiction sooooo lol

I wish I had to do inventory on that level of hardware when I worked in IT lol

All I had was Optiplex’s and really shit HP laptops lol

They were 8th Gen Intel Optiplexs though, but SFF

[hushed bobcat]

be careful, its a slippery slope

[shell rock]

risk I’m willing to take lol

[simple tundra]

hey, just wanted to say thanks for the blogs. I really do enjoy reading them at the end of the day.

[rich depot]

I'm happy to hear that. The blogs in the early days were very basic and boring, over the years I have got better at writing them. Partly because my job these days is actually writing! Go figure

If you have any feedback, anything you think should be different, any comments at all please do fire them my way, either here or my DMs are always open

[simple tundra]

I'll take note of that, thank you

[rich depot]

The truth is the blogs exist primarily as a way to "encourage" you guys to fold harder, but also as a way to entertain and bring the team together in a way that just a spreadsheet can't do IMO

https://linustechtips.com/blogs/blog/1178-ltt-folding-month-2018/ Here is the first folding month blog if you are at all curious

[shell rock]

how does one fold “harder”?

[rich depot]

Fun fact 90% of people who knoe me IRL call me Spec these days

[rich depot]

Well you fold... but harder... Set your phasers to fold! Also you buy a 4070ti

[simple tundra]

I joined only a few days before this year's folding month and I can already tell the community already feels very connected. It actually feels pretty great. I'm glad to be using this hardware for a good cause.

[shell rock]

I do intend to buy a 4070ti or 7900XT eventually for my gaming rig lol… but not right now

[rich depot]

Yeah... when I took over the folding team it was pretty dead and boring, I've taken the team from the 20s to being a top 3 team, and hope to keep pushing us further for as long as I can

Man.... my half dead 2070 is staring at me

[shell rock]

I feel the same way. I joined both the forum and the F@H event, solely because Spec jumped into tech chat and said (paraphrasing) “Hey, sign ups for the F@H event end in 3 hours” lol. So here I am. I didn’t even know what F@H was until that point.

[shell rock]

What makes it half dead lol

[rich depot]

Yeah... I get pretty into it, as you can tell

[simple tundra]

You've definitely helped improve the team over the years, I'm sure of it.

[rich depot]

Well... it has no functioning fans.... and it only runs at a -200mhz clock offset

[shell rock]

Understandable. It’s good for my ADHD. It’s like an idle game that actually benefits society

[rich depot]

ADHD here too... and I know what you mean

[shell rock]

just strap a couple 120mm fans on it and send it lol

[rich depot]

I have zipdies and case fans... (thanks dyslexia)

[simple tundra]

Clicked on a random channel on a server I rarely ever chat in, saw a neat link, and next thing you know, there's a heater operating in my room

[shell rock]

“Big number goes up” releases dopamine

[rich depot]

YESSSSSSS

[simple tundra]

Oh, it REALLY does

[shell rock]

Hell yeah. I’m heating my dorm room with my main rig rn lol.

[rich depot]

btw I passed the top 400 yesterday

[shell rock]

I mean it took less than 48hrs before I was buying hardware just for folding lol

[rich depot]

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-boba-fett-the-mandalorian-this-is-the-way-the-book-of-boba-fett-mandalorian-gif-24825263

[simple tundra]

hey that's pretty neat

[shell rock]

Nice. I’m just a baby amongst all the new folders.

[simple tundra]

same lol

[rich depot]

What do y'alls set up look like, the desk not the machine

[shell rock]

just a regular ol desk with a monitor, keyboard, and mouse lol

[hushed bobcat]

agreed

[shell rock]

nothing special

[shell rock]

I think I got just over 18 million on the most recent points update

[rich depot]

Mine is ok

I need more screens lmfao

[shell rock]

I move around a lot so I don’t have a lot going on. I usually run two monitors on my main rig but needed one for my second folding rig.

[simple tundra]

Finished it less than a month ago

[simple tundra]

As you can tell, I kind of like splatoon (did not mean to reply to this message, whoops)

[rich depot]

Nice! My brother has those same Logitech speakers

I have much MUCH older Logitech speakers, but I have £400+ headphones so the speakers much use

[shell rock]

Spec, how long does it usually take for the leaderboard ranks to settle for the event? I’d like to try to weasel my way into the top 50 but there’s some steep competition and I think my max PPD is gonna end up around 8 mill.

[simple tundra]

Hey that's pretty neat. They're great performance for a budget, I gotta say

[rich depot]

Honestly they never really do, mostly because people start breaking any buying more hardware

Here's a sneaky hint for you, sign up for Google cloud and you get $300 dollars for free 😉

[shell rock]

lol whaaaaaaaat

[hushed bobcat]

didnt someone fold on AWS last year?

[simple tundra]

There's no way...

[rich depot]

Someone is folding on AWS this year

[hushed bobcat]

my setup

[hushed bobcat]

whats the monthly limit

[rich depot]

I folding on it a couple years back

[simple tundra]

Wow, I genuinely do wonder how well it would perform

[rich depot]

VERY well

When I did it I had like 4 P100s running

[simple tundra]

oh my

[rich depot]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1506031-how-to-use-google-clouds-free-300-for-boinc/ ahem

this is a guide for boinc but you can do folding

[simple tundra]

Won't lie, that's a pretty tempting offer

I really am trying to hold back, but the folding addiction is starting to form already

[rich depot]

but... its free!

[simple tundra]

I'm gonna get hooked on that thing 😔

[rich depot]

hahaha

Here are the daily stats from Folding Month V for those of your curious https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GOHUk-R8qdMHtasIwdl7fS1ByCaNlJMKoSaWjDVyElY/edit?usp=sharing

Yes, I host every events files even to this day

Got that sweet google one(paid) storage

[hushed bobcat]

i was only 4 spots behind you Spec

[rich depot]

Yeah

[rich depot]

Feel free to attempt that again 😉

[simple tundra]

Oh this is genuinely pretty interesting, thank you

[hushed bobcat]

im tryin

[rich depot]

Happy to help

Interesting fact, FMV was the first event that had the rank change column

[shell rock]

I’m really interested to see where I end up. I plan to have at least one of my systems going full tilt at any given time, but I really also like playing games sometimes lol

So my PPD will be entirely dependent on how much I game in any given day lol

[rich depot]

You can play a LOT of games while folding, play old games and it doesn't even affect it all that much

[simple tundra]

It's a really useful feature, now I can easily tell which competitors are starting to pay extra

[rich depot]

Hahaha exactly

[shell rock]

True. I was playing Valorant while folding at full tilt and still had 200+ frames.

[shell rock]

@ the guy that jumped 57 places in one day

[rich depot]

Honestly the sheet has changed very little in teh background, but the public facing side of it has massivly improved, in the begining I just pasted the stats on the blog post

[shell rock]

My goal is to not have to ctrl+F my name to find myself on the leaderboard

[simple tundra]

Small improvements over the ages really contribute a lot, yeah

[rich depot]

Hahaha

[simple tundra]

same here lol

[rich depot]

The way I do the rank change is stupid in a good way

[shell rock]

I’m fine with top 100 if I can stay there, but top 50 would be cool too lol

[rich depot]

there are better ways to do it, but this is the quickest way to do it reliably when making the sheet. And getting the ranks and blog post done fast is important to me cause it's midnight when we start the process for me

[shell rock]

That’s fair

I think I’m finally gonna go to bed though. 2am here lol.

[rich depot]

Fun fact, for the first 3 years every number was entered manually... that was... not fast

[rich depot]

sleep welllll

[shell rock]

yikes lol

goodnight lol

[simple tundra]

Oh my goodness, that sounds awful

[simple tundra]

Yeah, same here. Gotta wake up for Church tomorrow.

[rich depot]

I didn't know better lmfao, it was less work than learning to script for me at the time... Then I realised I'm on a tech forum and asked for help

[simple tundra]

lmaoo

[rich depot]

Sleep well! Happy chatting with you

[simple tundra]

Cheers.

[hushed bobcat]

Never tried scripting anything

[rich depot]

I'm technically a qualified java dev... technically

[hushed bobcat]

I wonder if it would benefit me

Is that why you play RuneScape?

[rich depot]

what does java dev have to do with RuneScape?

I also haven't played RS in quite a while

[hushed bobcat]

I thought RS was written in Java

[rich depot]

I have no idea

I know MC is though

[hushed bobcat]

I could be mistaken

Oh yea Minecraft

Hosting that kinda sucks

The server is single threaded so you need ALL the IPC

[rich depot]

I used to host a few back in the day

Then I moved and didn't have access to business fibre anymore 😦

Cries in 300/15 connection

Great now I'm crying for two reasons, just remembered I gave my fans away to a friend... I have been offloaded excess hardware, gave them a case, PSU, RGB fans, RGB controller, a monitor and RAM

[hushed bobcat]

looks like the dual GPU setup settled in

[rich depot]

niceee

[hushed bobcat]

wish that 3060 Ti was running about 10c cooler though...

i took the side panel off

only thing i can think of is point a fan at it

[rich depot]

sec, let me find something

[rich depot]

This was "FOLDATRON 2.0, now with 100% more hash browns"

[hushed bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/police-coco-jaw-drop-skeleton-shocked-gif-15485742

[rich depot]

Waittt... I still have that "side panel" does it still have the fans??? If so... I just need to find my zip ties

[rich depot]

Admit it, it's beautiful

[pseudo abyss]

I think one year I used some free credits at both Google cloud and Oracle cloud for folding.

[rich depot]

That's the way to do it, make the big corps subsidise DC

[pseudo abyss]

Haven't bothered trying to go around the free credits per person stuff and do it again tho

[rich depot]

That's fair

I used like 3 cards on google cloud back in 2019 or 2020 lmfao

[pseudo abyss]

It was fun

[rich depot]

Yep

Throwback to my evga 970 that I got for free cause it had dead fans... Ahh those were the days

[rich depot]

Can I fold on this? Just got delivered

[rich depot]

uhh... I know I said fold harder but wtf

[humble rover]

Work of art that

[rich depot]

hahaha

[low grove]

lmaoo

[opal elbow]

Another record breaking day here we go !!!

[rich depot]

It certainly seems that way

[verbal night]

@rich depot is ther e a google doc of the event rankings?

[humble rover]

Sorry grabbed the wrong link

Updated daily
#folding-and-boinc message

[verbal night]

#42, nice

[rich depot]

thanks I'm AFK right now

[shell rock]

someone turned on another eight 4090s I guess

[humble rover]

Spent an embarrassingly long time looking for the data cable to my ups... neat utility tho

[humble rover]

Silenced!

[hushed bobcat]

thats weird

i fired up a CPU fold just to see what it would do on the 7950x

and its process isnt showing up in task manager

or process lasso

[opal elbow]

What kinda monster rig are you folding on?

[low grove]

probably an array of 1760 PS3's

[hushed bobcat]

Actually my first ever folding experience was on a PS3

[hushed bobcat]

Compared to what Spectrum is folding on I'm fairly tame

I've got 2 systems

Main rig with a rtx 4080 and ryzen 7950x

Second rig i7-8700k, rtx 3060 ti, and gtx 1080 ti

[shell rock]

My 7700X does about 320k, so I’d guess your 7950X, if it scales with core count, would do double that

[hushed bobcat]

Im not folding on all threads

[shell rock]

Ah

[hushed bobcat]

I don't want the heat for one

GPU folding takes priority

[shell rock]

You can power limit it and still get good performance

[hushed bobcat]

I'd have to reboot the system and change it in the BIOS

[shell rock]

My 7700X limited to 90W with a -30 CO, and gets the same performance as stock

Doesn’t get above like 65C while folding on an AK620

[hushed bobcat]

What memory are you running?

[rich depot]

not bad

[shell rock]

6000 CL30

Hynix die kit, I OC’d it myself. Running pretty tight timings.

[hushed bobcat]

uhh

900k?

on 16 threads?

[shell rock]

not bad

[shell rock]

maybe mine was reading low. I’ve seen it say 500k on my cpu before.

[hushed bobcat]

how many threads

[low grove]

figured out why im losing ppd

came back from work and my gpu had decided to run at base clock

[hushed bobcat]

toasty

[shell rock]

all of them lol

[hushed bobcat]

doing another WU at 775k

[shell rock]

If you care to optimize, revert to stock and benchmark it with R23 multicore. Then set CO to -30, and then keep lowering PPT as much as you can till you get a similar score.

[hushed bobcat]

my CO is -17

i cant go any lower

[shell rock]

oh damn

[shell rock]

Still though, even with a -17 CO you could probably match stock performance with a lower PPT

[hushed bobcat]

and here is my R23

[shell rock]

How much power did it pull while benching?

[hushed bobcat]

185w if i recall

thats how much my cooler can dissipate

[shell rock]

Set your PPT to like 110W and then rerun it

[hushed bobcat]

i have done that

[shell rock]

it’ll likely be lower than that score, cause you’re running -17 CO

[hushed bobcat]

i dont have the bench results but i remember being impressed

[shell rock]

but completely stock with a 0 CO is the score you’re trying to match

[shell rock]

Yeah 7000 series is surprisingly efficient with lower power limits.

[hushed bobcat]

makes Intel look like a power hog this generation

i think the 14900k can pull 230 or 250w

[shell rock]

That’s cause Intel are power hogs lol

But yeah. I lowered power draw on my 7700X by 40% and I’m still getting the same performance as stock lol

[hushed bobcat]

i think ill put in a temp limit

instead of 95c make it like 80c

then itll run whatever wattage it can based on my cooling

currently debating getting a window vent (like stand up portable AC's use) and piping outside air straight into my PC....

[opal elbow]

Do it!

[rich depot]

Can not wait to have this bpog post done and getting to sleep

My scan and EEC were today, they went fine, now to wair for the results

[low grove]

hopefully theyre good

hopefully im still in the 70s for today, idk how long my gpu was slacking for

[simple tundra]

what happened here....

[humble rover]

Stonks for science

[low grove]

🫱💎🫲🚀

[simple tundra]

great to hear, man

[rich depot]

Thanks, can NOTTTTTT wait to sleep