#the-wan-show

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elder lintel
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yes thats a common thing

toxic flint
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But when it comes to a computer, it's a lot harder to get two systems 100% perfectly duplicates than two pieces of outboard gear

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That's where Carbon Copy has been doing solid, steady business for, what, 20 years now?

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They had to announce earlier this year that this functionality won't be coming to Catalina due to the new security restrictions

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Oh wait, correction, they have managed to resolve this in the last month or two.

elder lintel
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yes

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Im guessing it was just a new way of doing things that required dev work to figure out how to clone

toxic flint
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Not that this matters much. A lot of people in the pro audio space can't touch Catalina due to the removal of 32-bit app support

elder lintel
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and now everyone has a more secure OS with carbon copy support

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the 32 bit app support loss is unfortunate for some people

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but its been long enough that devs need to be forced to update to 64

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for those who cant not use 32 bit apps at the moment, they can stay on mojave until their apps are updated

toxic flint
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just for reference,

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You can see from that page just how many audio device manufacturers are not supporting Catalina yet

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There is a -lot- of older hardware out there that is still 100% functional that will never get 64-bit drivers

elder lintel
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people got annoyed when windows killed 16 bit

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but it was something that had to happen eventually

toxic flint
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Why? Pro audio doesn't benefit from 64 bit.

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It's not like graphics, where the expectations of resolutions, bit depths and such are continuing to rise.

elder lintel
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I mean, not everything has to benefit, but technology gets better and shouldnt be held back by legacy support

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it seems silly now to support 16 bit

toxic flint
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Audio is audio. The output is is the same as it was 15 years ago.

elder lintel
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but when that was killed people had the exact same reaction

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if you really really need to run something thats unsupported, use a vm

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for the transition period, use mojave

toxic flint
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Transition period?

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Yeah, you don't fucking understand at all.

elder lintel
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in fact literally every single professional should still be using mojave or even high sierra

toxic flint
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25% of Macs are running older versions.

elder lintel
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when every single technology becomes outdated, theres a transition period while developers move to the current technology

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thats just how things happen

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it happened from 16bit to 32bit

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it happened from powerpc to intel

toxic flint
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And by "older verions" I mean older than High Sierra

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Part of that, of course, is that Apple abandoned everyone with pre-mid-2012 hardware with Mojave

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Why? So literally a handful of software developers at Apple can have an easier time writing graphics code. That's IT.

elder lintel
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the hardware cutoff was stupid

toxic flint
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The SAME PEOPLE decided the 64-bit cutoff. They're valuing their internal engineering teams more than their customers.

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The SAME PEOPLE also are the ones coming up with arbitrary reasons to cut off NVidia.

elder lintel
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people have developed patches that allow it to work without issues

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the nvidia thing isnt a dev issue, its a politics issue

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if the companies werent fighting, there would probably be support

toxic flint
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It's the same people. This isn't a very large group of people at Apple.

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Apple is perceived as a massive company, but the actual division with the core macOS engineers and their managers isn't that large.

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They're always trying to find ways to make their life easier in a world where expectations are getting higher with every release.

elder lintel
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and the 64 bit thing is more than just a saving dev time thing

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theres power and space savings

toxic flint
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But they're doing so in a way that pisses off ranges of customers in a way they haven't done since the mid-1990s

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Power and space savings are interesting to Macbook Air owners

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Not to Mac Pro owners

elder lintel
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a very small amount of people are going to be annoyed for a few years

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devs are going to update their apps

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and literally everyone is going to be in a better position in 5 years

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except for a very small minority that will need virtual machines for some stuff

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this transition is identical to what windows did

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it had to happen eventually, and maybe it was slightly premature, but thats apple

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nobody is getting screwed over by this in the short term, you can just not update

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and by the time not updating will be really bad, I bet most apps will be 64 bit

toxic flint
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No, it's not identical to what Windows did

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Oh my goodness that's a fucking dumb statement.

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Windows bends over backwards for backward compatibility, to the detriment of the advancement of the OS

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It's the complete opposite of what Apple does

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Eliminating 32-bit app support was announced for macOS at the 2018 State Of The Platform talk at WWDC. That was 18 months ago

elder lintel
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Im talking about this exact situation when windows killed 16 bit app support and people were pissed

toxic flint
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Contrast this with Windows, which, 290+ months after the release of Windows 95 is still able to run 16 bit apps. You can't use the 64 bit version of Windows, but the 32 but one is still supported

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18 months

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290 months

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Not. The. Fucking. Same.

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16 bit support is off by default in, I think it's Windows 8 and later.... but you enable the "NTVDM" legacy component on Windows 10 1909, and you can run 16 bit apps

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Look, Pixel, I can tell you're desperate to be right about this, but geez.... you've got some gaps in your knowledge.

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I'll leave this image here of someone installing Office 4.3 on Windows 10 to make my point.

elder lintel
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vista killed 16 bit app support

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it was a huge thing

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windows 7 added it back by emulating xp

toxic flint
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NO. STOP TALKING.

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YOU'RE WRONG.

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Jesus fuck, this can be proven by just using the thing

elder lintel
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windows 10 has an optional vm that runs 16 bit apps

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catalina, can run 32 bit apps in a vm

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here look at ms support from 2005 when vista came out saying you cant run 16 bit apps

toxic flint
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So you're just going to ignore the picture you see on your screen then. Office 4.3 on Windows 10.

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Seriously though, go grab a copy of Windows 10 32-bit, and enable NTVDM, and you'll see

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Don't trust a forum post from 2005.

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Do you need it in video form?

elder lintel
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NTVDM is literally a vm

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whats your point?

toxic flint
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No, it's not.

elder lintel
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you can do the exact same thing on catalina

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VDM stands for Virtual DOS Machine

toxic flint
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I know what it stands for, I'm actually an expert on this part of Windows. Used to work with the Windows source code in a previous job.

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It isn't a "virtual machine" in the sense of vmware

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NTVDM has been around since NT 3.1. It created an environment for NT which made a process space look vaguely DOS-like

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NT 3.1 required NTVDM to run regular Windows 3.1 applications programmed for the original pre-32 bit Windows API, too

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I could tell a whole story about how someone from the OS/2 team at IBM proudly showed off their superior implementation of the NTVDM idea in OS/2 Warp. This was at Comdex 1995. We were working together.

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OS/2 was marketed as "a better Windows than Windows" during that time. This emulation layer was a big part of that

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The Wikipedia article (which I wrote part of, 12+ years ago) is reasonably accurate. I suggest reading it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_DOS_machine

Virtual DOS machines (VDM) refer to a technology that allows running 16-bit/32-bit DOS and 16-bit Windows programs when there is already another operating system running and controlling the hardware.

dire niche
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@elder lintel "everyone is going to be in a better position in 5 years"
5 years? Really? what about now?
I'm tired of hearing stuff like that, I need it to work now.

elder lintel
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If it works perfectly right now, don't update. It's not complicated

cyan haven
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was there now wan show today?

random trout
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Um... WAN show's are on Friday's around 5pm PST ish.

cyan haven
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oh lul

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it's only just friday now

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I did a dumb

atomic cypress
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no worries. i sometimes think the WAN show is on saturdays.. because notifications mess it up for me..

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but yes. its' usualy on fri's

fair lynx
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So is there a WAN show tonight?

full pumice
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I need Wan

full pumice
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Did they say they were taking this Friday off? I can not remember.

keen bloom
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They might still be busy with the red camera shoot... But yeah, I hope they get live soon

full pumice
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IT'S LIVE!!!!!

keen bloom
random trout
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FYI, advertisers can trigger this by accident if they simply export a single record from Facebook's Business Manager & re-import it, even if they don't use the imported data. AKA don't worry comrade, Facebook's advertising platform is definitely not just as broken as using Facebook itself. /s

keen bloom
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I gotta watch my memes somewhere 😂 . But thats kinda stupid from facebook. Lets put it on the list of stupid stuff they did.

cold salmon
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@toxic flint I read that quite hot debate between you and Pixel but I admire your knowledge. I didn't even realise Windows 10 had 16-bit support, and I've learned a few things from what you've said about the NTVDM. Cheers.

toxic flint
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@cold salmon That wasn't a debate -- debates are about exploring different viewpoints or opinions. The other person was saying factually & provably untrue statements with a voice of authority. We have a different word for that: lying.

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An interesting debate would be whether Microsoft should've put the effort into making 16-bit apps work on 64-bit Windows, or whether 16-bit support should be removed.... or even whether 32-bit support should be dropped altogether like Apple has done. There are interesting point to explore there. But it's not a healthy debate when people don't even have the basic facts correct.

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None of this stuff is a secret.... it's all documented in the Windows Internals books and Microsoft's documentation.

icy lodge
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When does the WAN show officially start?

dark bridge
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17:00 Pacific, 01:00 UTC

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usually, anyway

hardy ether
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pfft

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that's the "official" start time

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the real start time is generally between 10-45 minutes later

rigid stone
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has wan show ever been on time?

hardy ether
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a few times

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it is completely random though

icy lodge
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I want to throw a super chat out this week, but I'm in the middle of nowhere PA so I am forced to walk a half mile from where I an staying and hide out on a relatives porch to get internet of any kind. I was hoping to minimize my wait time, but that's probably not going to happen.

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And I think it may be about to rain... Nice

icy lodge
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LOL

hardy ether
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we have arrived!

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i went nuts after a few months of working from home literally rolling out of my bed into my chair working, then rolling back into my bed to sleep

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imagine... never leaving your chair... it should recline too!

full pumice
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It was 830 est last week. Let's see what it is this week. My YouTube notifications aren't working.

icy lodge
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I've already been waiting out here in the cold for an hour. What's another hour

hardy ether
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become one with the cold

fair totem
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so...

trail bridge
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waiting

tight mauve
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wanshow live claims there live....(edit, discord decided to show me a old one, so no there not)

trail bridge
full pumice
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Lol

icy lodge
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The owls are howling, they may come eat me soon

fair totem
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live!!!

keen bloom
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i don't see it

hardy ether
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i see it on Twitch

keen bloom
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youtube fail, again

trail bridge
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On Twitch and FP, yt is being dumb

hardy ether
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might be PEBCAC though

full pumice
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LIVE

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It was Live on FP first

keen bloom
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yup

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I usually do youtube because superchats. haven't really set up twitch proper yet

icy lodge
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Well I got to post my superchat so I'mma head out soon.

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That LTX date man

marsh plover
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Do they monitor this chat during the live stream?

hardy ether
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i have never seen them reference Discord

marsh plover
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Agreed

full pumice
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The date for ltx works for me. Hopefully Vancouver won't be as crowded. I am more sad that they won't have early bird ticket prices.

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I got my tickets as soon as they were released.

hardy ether
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nice thing about them not watching this is I can post stuff like this: w/o getting blocked by discord

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rather blocked by twitch bot

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the shirts were just ok (for those watching WAN)

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imho

amber iron
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I thought they made it an hour later was to make the show on time...

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Well😅

crude depot
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Are there esp8266s in that picture or are they other arduino boards?

hardy ether
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all over the spectrum, all adafruit variants on a theme though, feathers and wings

amber iron
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Help me

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For some content from LTT

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Pc secret shopper part 2

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In the twitch/floatplane/YouTube chat

keen bloom
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Beta Squadron 4 lyfe

warm meteor
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Imagine spending over $100 on superchats on LTT and none of them get read

keen bloom
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oof

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I've found that getting them within the first 15 minutes is the best time.

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That's when it's almost guaranteed to get read

full pumice
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I clicked off when they started talking about Star Wars. Haven't seen the movie yet.

keen bloom
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Good call

full pumice
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Hopefully going tomorrow if it would stop raining.

keen bloom
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hopefully

full pumice
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Night. See you guys next week.

stable rune
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i wanna talk star wars with linus!!!!!

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just watched last nights wan and had some counter points. not to say im pleased with tros

keen bloom
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I had a laugh when Linus was complaining about force powers coming out of nowhere

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Because that's the way it's always been

keen bloom
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Yeah he had a minute long rant on Techlinked the other day

vague echo
last current
full pumice
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Ouch

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I have an echo flex and an echo dot. I have fallen into their trap.

last current
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All I have is a Google Home Mini I keep finding plugged in and unplugging 'cause other people use it.

full pumice
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My echo creeps me out sometimes. I have it on my desk and I work from home for Amazon. It is always listening.

crude depot
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Does anyone else feel uncomfortable when it comes to targeted advertisements?

analog meteor
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if it's on random websites I wouldn't expect it from

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but if I'm shopping on amazon, I honestly appreciate it. Sometimes they get stuff right as creepy as it is. My take away is to just use a segmented network (like a VPN) for my shopping, and a completely different one for banking.

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the idea is actually helpful, the way they do it is super creepy

crude depot
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Hey, I saw you looked at this once. Here is 17 related products.

analog meteor
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lol. I start taking offense when I buy something on amazon and something related to it ends up on my youtube feed

crude depot
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IKR?

analog meteor
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software defined networks will be the end of that nonsense

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where it will require explicit consent, so the people who want (some do) will get it and people like you and me can say no

full pumice
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Targeted ads creep me out, especially when I don't search for the thing. I have had issues with my eyes and this eye drop ad keeps playing on every YouTube video I watch.

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I'm sure I probably googled something and don't remember it or the conspiracy theorist are right 🤣

random trout
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Adblockers help prevent (but not fully eliminate) targeted ads, especially on YouTube...

last current
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Ublock Origin + PiHole + Invidious player + Sponsorblock Firefox plugin gets rid of everything just about.

eager junco
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idk how I feel about sponsorblock, I'd be fine with it getting rid of anything longer than 20 seconds but it is usually set to block everything, isn't it?

stable rune
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@keen bloom right? Like that's how the force works. How friggin lame would it be if you could never do anything new with the force. Literally every movie introduces new powers. All the old badass sith stories are about how they bend the force to their will and do crazy, new things. That's what the force is about bruh

keen bloom
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Yup

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The force us universal, meaning it's only limited by what the universe can do. And from what we've seen, the universe can do a lot

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It can cause two neutron stars to collide. It can create a massive black hole. Pretty sure the force can do something just as bonkers

full pumice
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My niece turns 5 next week. I sent her a Rey doll that come with a little BB8. My sister in law vetoed the light saber. :(

flint knot
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something that is just so weird 😂

cerulean stone
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it was just to prove a point

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the senator doesn't actually want to ban cell phones

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keen bloom
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Turning off superchats when Linus haven't seen the movie but spoiling just couple weeks after

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*Superchat == Chat

full pumice
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^^^^ yep I had to turn off WAN because I am seeing it tomorrow.

full pumice
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Bets on when wan will start tonight?

full pumice
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I am gonna guess 830 est

hardy ether
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8:17 EST

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that's right, i'm saying they'll be "early" for them

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i stopped playing Elite D to be here, I'd forgotten how beautiful that game was in VR

full pumice
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It was 8:50 est last week

hardy ether
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they aren't reliably late either to be fair

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anytime i say "screw it, they'll be late" they're on time and show up the show is halfway over

full pumice
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I can't do VR. I have bad migraines and it makes me sick to play VR but I heard the Valve Index is better.

hardy ether
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if you have any eye strangeness VR might not be suitable for you for a while

full pumice
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We just have the WMR. I am pretty sure it is the worst lol

hardy ether
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one of my friends though who has astigmatism was not a VR fan until the quest (he can easily wear his glasses), he thought he'd have to wait for foveted rendering to be a fully deployed thing

full pumice
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It is coming along

karmic estuary
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Twitch on linustechtest lol

hardy ether
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live

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and i was right on the dot

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8:17

full pumice
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Wow you win!!!

rigid turret
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its live

hardy ether
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they don't look here

rigid turret
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ik speaking to the void

full pumice
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I like Luke's shirt

hardy ether
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like i said, it sorta looks like it's vomiting

full pumice
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Yes it does

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I am glad it is early. I have LivePD at 9 lol

lavish lance
rigid turret
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luke's shirt type c?

lavish lance
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@rigid turret yup

rigid turret
lavish lance
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Yup

rigid turret
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thats dope when can i expect a Displayport?

full pumice
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Ask in the merch channel

full pumice
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A box with a clock

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Yes. Wan is MUCH better quality on Floatplane.

hard narwhal
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Is folding actually worth it for them or do home pc's do so little work these days?

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or is there another good program that is helpful instead?

full pumice
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I was a part of folding month. All of us combined did a lot.

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Every little bit helps.

hard narwhal
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Does it show what percentage you add though? I could see someone with like a data center adding most of that percentage while I do like 0.00001%

full pumice
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You can ask in the folding channel. I think they put the data on the forum but not sure if it showed what you are asking.

warm meteor
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Third times a charm amirite

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3rd $10 superchat to be ignored in a row

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Lets see how far we can go

full pumice
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Do it at the beginning.

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I did a 5$ one last week at the very beginning and they read it.

warm meteor
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I posted it before the $100 guy posted his

bright trout
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is wan show supposed to be on floatplane

next socket
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It is on floatplane live

full pumice
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@warm meteor they read the ones that were posted at the beginning. They only read his because it was 100$.

full pumice
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I can now finish last week's episode. Just watched the new Star Wars movie. OMG it was so good.

stable rune
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Lol I could help linus and Luke with understanding pool as well

full pumice
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It is worth it to buy Floatplane this month just for the LTT FP Exclusive video.

keen bloom
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yes

full pumice
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Get Floatplane...everyone else is doing it

frank lava
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hello

full pumice
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Hi

full pumice
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Taking bets for WAN Show start time tonight. Week before last it was 8:50 EST, last week it was 8:17 EST. I am going to guess 8:30 EST.

full pumice
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Live on FP.

proven shuttle
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Wan Show isn’t live on youtube lol

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twitch is working

full pumice
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YT sucks.

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Better quality on FP anyways.

sand laurel
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Scammed Super Chats

full pumice
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Yeah, that was super weird, but I think he had to go.

keen bloom
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oh my god it's beautiful

shy light
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yes

keen bloom
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Mom I’m scared

full pumice
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Bets?

west oracle
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late...

full pumice
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Wouldn't be wan show if it was on time

astral forge
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16 minutes late

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all bets are final

full pumice
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825

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Est

tawdry wraith
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Wan show might be cancelled...

full pumice
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Nah

proven pagoda
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1 buck on 23 minutes late

tawdry wraith
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Haven't watched Wan show in years but figured I'd watch it today

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What's the latest they've been?

shrewd dirge
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live now

tawdry wraith
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Sweet

full pumice
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Live on fp

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I don't think they know

keen bloom
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Tried using the FP app. No chat option?

full pumice
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Nope. Not yet.

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If you have FP connect your discord to it

keen bloom
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right

little moat
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What fp

full pumice
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Floatplane

tropic spire
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Why was the wan show edited? Near the end of the wan show it was clipped, what was said?

full pumice
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Shhh it's a secret

stuck sedge
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That moment when you have to hit the pause on the WAN show you look back and see this......

keen bloom
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Old man Linus

bright vessel
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grumpy

hardy ether
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no no no no

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you can't be early!

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i was going to run to pick up some dinner

full pumice
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What?!?!

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45 minutes early

rigid stone
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15

hardy ether
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^

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15-45 minutes early

dusk fable
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it's the closest they've been to on time in awhile

hardy ether
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for typical behavior

full pumice
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It has never been on time lol

dusk fable
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So ummm. Where the fek is Linus?

full pumice
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818est last week, 821, 817, 850, 830

dusk fable
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timezone?

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east

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very east

full pumice
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That's the last 4 weeks times. It is supposed to be 1700pst.

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Yeah I am Eastern

full pumice
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Lol James called me out!

dusk fable
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nice

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Candace.

full pumice
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I sent him an email because I wanted to buy them movie tickets to help them out.

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Candice

dusk fable
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so close, and yet

full pumice
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It's okay lol

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Well at least you know they read the emails.

dusk fable
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I suspect they "work" for fun.

full pumice
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Well they made the comment that they buy their own tickets so I thought hey I could send them money for tickets.

dusk fable
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just buy them tickets online?

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cineplex is prevalent out here

full pumice
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And mail them to the office address?

dusk fable
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email the electronic tickets to them

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you know they read the email 🙂

full pumice
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Duh...I swear I am blonde sometimes.

keen bloom
full pumice
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Post that to the LTT subreddit

keen bloom
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Someone else can have that sweet karma.

full pumice
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I mean I'll take it

nimble kettle
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Are there any archived Wan shows from before july 12 2013?

rich peak
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Not sure exactly when they started calling it the WAN show, but there are plenty of Linus Tech Tips Livestreams from before that

rich peak
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Looks like that's the first WAN Show, also incidentally found a playlist with the LTT Livestreams too 😛

nimble kettle
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Gonna have to go back and watch those after parties. I powered thru all wan shows back in 2015 or so and now i feel like i missed a bunch. Oof

dusk fable
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they were so young, lol

nimble kettle
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Apparently there were only like 3 aftershows, a few baked into thw show at the end (with cake) and then it kinda just never happened aside from streams luke did.

Unless those exist somewhere, they are gone and that hurts a little.

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The shows also get progressively shorter for some reason. They stopped having guests and stopped the call-in thing. My fave old thing was the twitter blitz. It was like superchats but didnt cost money.

full pumice
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Place your bets boys

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Last six wan shows in Eastern Time: 7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30

lilac hemlock
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i hate timezones. especially when what i want to watch is over ocean. i say they are going to be 40 minutes late.

full pumice
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815 FP

storm field
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cancel PIA then

twilit finch
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PROOF

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Linus is right!

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Hardly any AMD on Amazon's website

full pumice
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Yep

twilit finch
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I opened this in incognito mode

lunar ibex
twilit finch
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Linus is right about the car service

wanton oasis
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he's right,but it's a bs thing. Where does that leave the owner when he goes to resell the car.

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Can't resell a fully loaded tesla because certain features will go away.

twilit finch
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Yeah, that'd be the sucky thing

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But at the same time, ownership of cars is starting to go away so..

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Just like how Windows is becoming a 'service' now

gaunt zinc
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No, people will own cars, and its going to be where your car can become PASSIVE income by letting it be part of the fleet while you are at work, and tell it when it can be part of it, etc etc. THAT is the Tesla Dream.

wanton oasis
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Lol, we don't own hardly anything anymore. Its all downloads and codes to activate things. I pay for the majority of things with apple pay on my watch!

twilit finch
#

But do you really own it at that point?

gaunt zinc
#

Yes

full pumice
#

That was a matrix moment

wanton oasis
#

lol

twilit finch
#

All of my games are all on Steam now

#

But everything is heading into the 'renting' direction

#

Hell, you hardly own your identity anymore

gaunt zinc
#

You pay for it, use as as much as you want, then say that during specified time periods, you get paid for others to use it. you are not the customer, you are a provider if you own a Tesla. Thats how it will be, YOU own and maintain it, but you make money off it where it pays for itself eventually.

wanton oasis
#

yes,and as much as im sure some people hated steam at first,its really handy when I have redo a computer and all my games are right there when I come back.

twilit finch
#

^

gaunt zinc
#

Thats why Tesla has the interior camera and such, Tesla is going to sell insurance for those who opt into the fleet in case a fleet rider messes up their cars.

wanton oasis
#

the data collection coming from a tesla car has to be insane. I'd love to see all the data being transmitted 🙂

gaunt zinc
#

Yep

twilit finch
#

But you still don't own the car, at least on the 'technicality'

gaunt zinc
#

you PAY for a tesla to give THEM data to improve the autopilot. insane.

wanton oasis
#

as much as I would LOVE to have one, I also would be scared to. Along the same lines as some IT professionals who have no smart devices in their house.

gaunt zinc
#

no, you own it. You buy it, and own it, but let others use it.

#

Here is an analogy

#

Does Google Drive own their servers, since they have people pay for and use space on it? Of corse they do.

#

In the same way, you will own your Tesla, but you can opt-in to letting it be used as part of the fleet, where you get paid for 1) letting them use it 2) maintaining it (cleaning it up etc) and probably get discounts at service center and/or their upgrades like premium connectivity.

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Regardless, Tesla stock is soaring

twilit finch
#

Ah

gaunt zinc
#

I would but but I have no money lmao

twilit finch
#

WOW

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Xbox trying to say Sony and Nintendo aren't relevant

wanton oasis
#

They are just trying to throw shade and act like they aren't scared of their competition.

twilit finch
#

Literally, the Switch sold more in its first year than Xbox and PS4 combined..

#

At this point, Nintendo is even biting at the heels of Sony

#

To say that Sony isn't your main rival is just down right nonsense

wanton oasis
#

I'm not much for mobile gaming, but I see the switch freaking everywhere. I also still love my PSP.

twilit finch
#

The switch isn't just a mobile system though

#

It's both a home console and a mobile one

#

It's the hybrid of both

#

It's literally what the Gamecube and the Wii U were suppose to be

#

Heck, that's even why it's called the Switch lol

#

Because it can "switch" between modes

twilit finch
#

Lol

keen bloom
#

the switch really shows what ARM can do

#

over x86

#

and yet it's using a dated maxwell based tegra GPU. just imagine if nvidia made a brand new Tegra based on the new upcoming "Ampere"

will blow xbone x and ps pro out of the water on perf/watt

twilit finch
#

^

#

The Switch could easily outclass even the likes of a high end PC with the right hardware

keen bloom
#

this is why apple's A series has been so successful.

twilit finch
#

^

#

Man I'd love to be one of the people ahead in the Switch hardware department..

#

Would suggest a 3d printable joycon shell 😄

#

FDM version or SLA

hot karma
#

How would ltt get in trouble for "same bat time"?

full pumice
#

Trademarked phrase

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From 1960's Batman and Robin

sterile mason
errant kettle
#

I love that they mentioned Stick RPG in the show! It was one of my favorites and introduced me into a little coding when I was younger.

cerulean stone
#

i love going to sleep on a friday night knowing that when i wake up WAN show will be live

quiet marsh
#

when does wan show start

full pumice
#

Pick a time any time

quiet marsh
#

when is it suppose to start

full pumice
#

Last seven show start times in Eastern time. , 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30

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It is supposed to start at 17:00 PST (5:00)

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20:00 EST (8:00)

pine shadow
#

So guys... I'm out of sync because of Summer time etc. How long until WAN Show?

full pumice
#

I just answered that question

pine shadow
#

Ok so it's 16:10 PST now... So it's due to start in 50min.

#

Sorry your answer didn't help someone running on GMT 👌 and yes I know it's rarely on time...

#

Thank you anyway I should have just googled instead of asking.

full pumice
#

Nah. It's no problem. Sorry I only know PST and EST. Someone usually posts in here when it is live and it is usually a few min earlier on FP.

pine shadow
#

That's why I prefer to just tell people how long it is until the time that gives them ability to work it out in their own time code. After all there are more than 24 Time Zones.

full pumice
#

You know what? That makes sense. Lol

pine shadow
scenic coral
drowsy rover
#

its time

mortal heathBOT
full pumice
#

Why are you creeping

toxic cradle
#

so that out of context clip for subscriptions being good?

tiny vigil
#

The OFFICIAL JOYCON CHARGING GRIP

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0 reason to put them on all the switch to charge

#

There are of course third party options for those people

prisma plume
keen bloom
#

I was an hour behind

#

actually I just verified my discord account with a phone number to find out why

#

I'm not sure why I have a weird nickname but I'm not changing it

#

it looks nice

#

actually yes I am

dense eagle
#

I can't see today's wan show?

keen bloom
#

I can't see the wan show

#

I can't change my nickname

#

It got set to private a couple minutes ago and kicked everyone watching out

polar sandal
#

i was halfway through and it just stoped

dense eagle
#

😦

#

link?

#

Doesn't work for me 😦

west nacelle
#

Why is the wan show set to private?

solemn ravine
#

The twitch vod is still there

keen bloom
#

It's live again now

#

?

#

it is?

solemn ravine
keen bloom
#

thx

#

their camera is amazing

west nacelle
#

LMAO you can't post their twitch video, cause it censors you

amber rapids
#

@prisma plume tunnel bear references. Oo

prisma plume
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dry sun
#

it buffers every two seconds for some reason

lusty jetty
#

Same. at 7 mins it keeps going in and out every 2 seconds.

#

and then freezes... unwatchable on Youtube, but it works in Twitch

keen bloom
#

Floatplane had no issues... of course

full pumice
#

Last eight show start times in Eastern time. 8:12, 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30

gentle vine
#

so the wan show on average is 18.125 minutes late with that data

full pumice
#

Thank you. I don't do the maths.

gentle vine
#

i cant promise it's accurate or reliable

#

but it maths

full pumice
#

lol

hasty eagle
#

theyre late

#

they're pregnant

little minnow
#

chilling out in here and twitch....whenever they go live

soft glacier
#

LOL

#

I sometimes wonder what eq they use for their live show

hasty eagle
#

maybe whonnock took a shit again

#

remember when they had a few weeks where their stream was at gain -100dB

#

like you couldn't hear it

#

it was crap

little minnow
#

do they do an eq for just a mixer?

#

O.o

#

live

soft glacier
#

equippment...

full pumice
#

821

hasty eagle
#

al pacino

full pumice
#

Live on FP

soft glacier
#

Its live

gentle vine
#

My estimation was 1 minute out

hasty eagle
#

youtube super behind

random trout
#

Yup, so just watch it on Twitch.

hasty eagle
#

luke looking tired af

full pumice
#

Get FP

hasty eagle
#

i was on the beta

#

but now i dont have an acount anymore

#

i had that $2 a month thing

random trout
#

I'll pass; don't need yet another subscription streaming service biting its' way into my wallet. May as well just go back to the atrocity that is cable television service.

hasty eagle
#

Netflix and Amazon have different titles

#

too many exclusives

wanton oasis
#

I cant think of how this would benefit anyone,who are they trying to appeal to? The costs dont make sense.

hasty eagle
#

Nissan is grasping and won't be around for much longer. Ghosn ruined the company.

random trout
#

Goodbye sweet stream, we'll miss you.

hasty eagle
#

rip

keen bloom
#

Stream died? Oh...

gaunt zinc
#

maybe live on minecraft?

random trout
#

sigh there be Luke & Linus, misinformed about DOCSIS technology. Probably a good idea to educate one's self before spouting off about technology, else you lose trust in your audience. They're not wrong about FTTP/FTTH only being available in certain neighborhoods though, as Telus is indeed leading the way there, assuming you can deal with their overseas tier 1 support agents.

drifting creek
#

@random trout Maybe you should be a DOCBRO and offer to educate them on DOCSIS

#

How confusing would it be if they went with calling it “Fiber To The Premises”

#

“FTTP”

random trout
#

Good callout @drifting creek - more than happy to. 🙂 The cable industry indeed cannot yet offer the same symmetrical speeds as FTTP/FTTH because DOCSIS cable modems depend upon a certain number of up/downstream channels for upload/download speeds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Comparison

DOCSIS 3.0/3.1 has been rolled out across most cable providers (in North America, at least) as more and more houses are sandwiched into "neighborhoods" like sardines in a can, and can provide speeds up to 10Gbit down / 2Gbit up. (for an entire neighborhood, not a single home.)

ISPs who deploy their networks correctly, like Shaw, Rogers, or Comcast (even if Comcast makes you wait on hold forever), run fiber to the node from a localized headend, with each node serving no more than 500-1000 households, tops. (more nodes are added to eliminate congestion, as required.)

Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification (DOCSIS ) is an international telecommunications standard that permits the addition of high-bandwidth data transfer to an existing cable television (CATV) system. It is used by many cable television operators to provide Internet ...

rich peak
#

There's the link to the vod, got unlisted for some reason

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

random trout
#

Right now the industry is waiting on the final revision(s) of DOCSIS 4.0 by CableLabs before they invest millions of dollars in the necessary changes required to support said technology. My understanding is that once DOCSIS 4.0 is finalized, ISPs who've properly prepared for the upgrade can "flip a switch" area-by-area to enabled it.

This is a gross oversimplification, of course, but essentially this could involved adding/swapping in more upstream blades to ARRIS E6000 CMTS chassis units, assuming the plant equipment between the headend & nodes is up-to-par, and/or ensuring that there is ZERO traces of DOCSIS 2.0 equipment on a node, since this isn't 100% compatible with DOCSIS 4.0 frequencies.

I could go on, but I'll leave it at this high level overview for now. If anyone wants to learn more about how DOCSIS technology works, feel free to spark up a conversation in #networking. Full disclosure: I support whatever connectivity method works best in your area, so no "cable vs fibre" flamewars please.

full pumice
#

Dial up is best @random trout

#

Gosh I miss that handshake

random trout
#

I mean, based on some of the horror stories I've heard about Australia's NBN, dial-up might be more reliable down under, even if it's the slowest of all options.

full pumice
#

Took 15 minutes or more just to get onto the internet. Sucked when someone picked up the phone and it had to start over. Someone Ok Boomer me.

#

Back in my AOL days

random trout
#

No need for any degenerating generation stuff - I don't fall under that age group, and yet I still know what that experience is like. We didn't have internet until I was well into high school, so I became very accustomed to using the neighbor's dial-up. (Luckily they had a second phone line installed for internet / home business use, so in the evenings / on weekends we never had to worry about being interrupted.)

full pumice
#

Kids today don't know how good they have it lol

keen bloom
#

am i going crazy or is the wanshow not on youtube ?

full pumice
#

Scroll up

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Someone posted a link

supple hill
#

they remove it after they stop the live broadcast . then it gets posted again normally about an hour later.

frosty tendon
#

ty for the link

cosmic valley
#

wtf, why is it unlisted?

supple hill
#

could be editing it.

drifting creek
#

Usually to review it I guess, for personal information

#

More than once, I think it was Linus’s personal laptop, on WAN show they showed payroll

keen bloom
#

So about self driving cars and cars as a service. It's not going to replace all of it, only a portion of the market. Some people will still have their manual cars, just like how people still have games on physical media and cd's

astral rock
#

i think in the future manual cars will be banned but there will still be a small proportion of people who own their own autonomous cars

#

until we stop using money and everything is controlled by AI (not joking btw)

keen bloom
#

Not so sure about manual cars being outright banned because there are cars from the 50's, 60's and 70's still on the road without any of the safety features that are in modern cars now

astral rock
#

not saying it will be soon, but it will definitely happen once autonomous cars have been out for a while

#

banning manual cars does open up new possibilities for self driving cars as well

keen bloom
#

They'll be prevalent, sure. But there will always be that one person who owns a manual car and it will just be grandfathered into the new regs. I've seen that happen over and over

astral rock
#

if 99% of cars are autonomous and they're been around for 50 years, i can't rly think of any reason why manual cars should be allowed

#

they would be so unsafe compared to the autonomous vehicles

keen bloom
#

I can. There will be massive pushback from car clubs if manual cars are to be banned

astral rock
#

and no longer having to make cars respond to signals designed for humans (possibly replacing traffic lights with just a radio signal, or even scapping lanes on motorways and just letting the self driving cars all communicate together so traffic flows smoothly)

#

i'm not talking any time soon

#

barely anyone will use manual cars or even own a car

keen bloom
#

They'll still use traffic lights even in the future. Because people will still need to cross the street.

astral rock
#

there might still be pedestrian lights

#

anyway that was just an example

keen bloom
#

Yup. Right now it's too hard to pin down, but there will be room for both. This I've seen.

rich peak
#

Lol it's funny how "manual car" refers to "manual driving" instead of "manual transmission" now...kinda scary how autonomous things are becoming 😬

#

As for me, I'll be driving manual manual cars because I enjoy it for a loong time to come, and I agree with @keen bloom that people who enjoy driving will still drive "manually", I doubt that'll be made illegal, it'll just be similar to the current state of manual transmission cars, where nobody knows how to drive them and they're getting more and more rare lol

astral rock
#

Manual transmission cars are nowhere near as rare as I'm saying manual driving cars will be when they are banned, I'm talking a long time in the future

#

I know quite a few people with manual transmission cars

south plover
#

I have several manual cars. Only recently have I purchased an automatic and it was a $50 1996 F150 I got from a friend.

rich peak
#

Solid deal lol

keen bloom
#

And then a week later the transmission crapped out

south plover
#

Nah, still runs and drives.

keen bloom
#

That was a bit of a joke on the general state of ford's, both from seeing them on the street and seeing a lot of them in the shop

keen bloom
#

hi people. I usually watch WAN show the day after cause I'm in europe, but I had some google rewards money to give in a superchat. Any idea how late the wan show usually starts? And if possible either in vancouver time or just x minutes from now, if you would be awesome 🙂

full pumice
#

1700 PST if you want a super chat read make it interesting and at the first of the show.

keen bloom
#

I'm not interesting 😂 although I was gonna ask about their offsite backup

#

but thanks. thats 02:00 my local time. I hope they aren't that late this time

full pumice
#

They will never be on time. It's kinda their thing.

keen bloom
#

yeah I gathered that from all the show's I've watched. but how much are they usually late?

#

also damn, nice shirt 🙂

full pumice
#

Last nine show start times in Eastern time. 8:19, 8:12, 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30

#

@gentle vine did some maths last week and said it's around an average of 18 minutes late.

#

So should be on within 30 minutes from now.

keen bloom
#

lets hope so. Getting tired af 😂

full pumice
#

Same

keen bloom
#

you also in europe?

gentle vine
#

well

#

The Wan show should be late by 18.22222222222222 minutes which has been determined by 9 pieces of data

keen bloom
#

lol okay

#

and how much fate do you have in your average?

gentle vine
#

well last time i was 1 minuite off

#

so this is the test of weither that was a fluke or not

#

the issue being the wan show being late is based purely off human factors like linus forgetting lol

keen bloom
#

😂 forgetting or just busy with some crazy project?

#

Both

#

Lol

#

lol

#

I'm usually a big supporter of his crazy projects, but pls not today 😂

#

Yeah speaking of which, I saw that he was doing some FPV stuff and I wanted to help him out on that. I don't really have any time right now to do video of the stuff I do so.. yeah kinda wish I could share it with you guys

dusk fable
#

youtube is having issues...

full pumice
#

8:12 EST

real crystal
#

What would be cool is a bot that live streams the Wan Show in a discord channel

keen bloom
#

why?

real crystal
#

pfffttt pog thats why

keen bloom
#

okay

#

I don't care, I did my superchat, I'm going to sleep 😂 will watch the whole wan show when I wake up

delicate sand
#

The-AYYY-ter

rich peak
#

"beatherable shoes"

gentle vine
#

now just to learn how to use the YouTube API to retrieve every wan show late time

astral rock
#

try adding the late time onto the usual time and display the time it should start in lots of different timezones

gentle vine
#

hmm interesting idea

#

i'll keep that in mind

#

currently bogged down in learning API stuffs and ISO 8601 intergration and all dat

gentle vine
astral rock
#

cool

gentle vine
#

update- after some tinkering and searching i now have a pretty good understanding of how to manipulate the 267 results i got

#

so if anyone wants a text file with 267 wan show titles 😂

charred torrent
#

^ so are you going to asymptotically determine what time exactly same bat time is ?

elder lintel
#

Bat time is very different from human time

full pumice
#

It is indeed

#

I'm gonna make a bingo board one day. Suggestions for things to be on said bingo board??? 1. Wan gets interrupted by someone needing Linus for something. 2. Nick is standing here, what do you need Nick? 3. Luke says, you should probably not share my screen. 4. Free space is Wan is late 5. Complaint about YouTube.

elder lintel
astral rock
#

someone purchased a .com domain for that?

full pumice
#

OMG it is amazing! I love it!!!

dusk fable
#

.coms are the cheapest domain provided you can find one that suits you

#

Also LUL

cosmic horizon
#

Anyone know when the wan show is going live tonight?

full pumice
#

@cosmic horizon pick a number any number

#

Basically throw a dart at the clock. It never starts at the same time

#

Last ten show start times in Eastern time. 8:12, 8:19, 8:12, 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30

cosmic horizon
#

Wow

#

Is it supposed to go live at 8:00?

full pumice
#

Yes, sir!

cosmic horizon
#

Neat!

full pumice
#

I'm not sure it has ever started on time.

wanton oasis
#

I thought I might even be late,silly me

full pumice
#

Late stream today

tidal cape
#

WAN show cancelled due to "Human Malware" 😉

full pumice
#

Lol

clever vigil
#

yes ive finally gotten to the wanshow early

tidal cape
full pumice
#

8:36

dense eagle
#

It's hilarious how much time got spent on a kickstarter derail tonight

#

I enjoyed it

tidal cape
#

But seriously guys, put a linus face sticker on the back of the WAN show microphone 🙂

normal nymph
stable rune
keen bloom
#

I'm gonna get that sticker sheet... just by itself.

#

:D

astral rock
#

But the question is: do you get a free sticker sheet with the sticker sheet...?

keen bloom
#

maaaaybe? 🙂

full pumice
#

Luke said yes

astral rock
#

xD

clever lagoon
#

It was a ploy to get people to buy sticker sheets so they can overcharge without being called out Pogey

full pumice
#

The last one

mild geyser
#

When will we see HAMR in Petabyte Project #3 on LTT (not a ces demo)?

past jungle
#

can we have live wan show audio on discord voice in the near future please???

lunar ibex
#

lol

rigid stone
#

why is wan show early when linus isnt doing it?

lunar ibex
#

he is usually filming right before the show, there are clips where he literally runs from a shoot into the wan show area

drifting creek
#

Linus cat died today, so hes got the right to take the day off

dapper sparrow
#

The latest WAN show is just another prime example of Americans not knowing EU regulations

#

GDPR is not about being creative, it's about privacy and data protection

#

DIRECTIVE (EU) 2019/790, which the latest copyright directive is probably the one they meant

astral rock
#

doesn't it stand for "General Data Protection Regulation" lol (I'm from UK btw)

dapper sparrow
#

and even that one ain't that bad

#

yep

#

It's like confusing the DMCA with the PATRIOT act

astral rock
#

DMCA is about copyright, never heard of PATRIOT

dapper sparrow
#

is the one giving US intelligence agencies unrestricted access to servers and data in the USA

#

probably still wrong presentation, but close enough

astral rock
#

k

keen bloom
#

hi

keen bloom
#

i just joined to say that alex and riley had an amazing wan show, i enjoyed it a ton more than linus and luke

#

generally i dislike linus on wan he isnt very funny and he tends to go off on a ramble that is not relevant to tech

#

can we get new wan show hosts! haha

vapid pendant
#

@keen bloom That is exactly why i love him on the WAN show, Its great to hear the opinion of someone who is so heavily into tech and his thoughts about things that smaller channels just dont have

arctic girder
#

is the wan show going to be on today

keen bloom
#

i think so. just don't know when

gentle vine
#

wow the half an hour non-tech just chatting section of WAN was just what i needed in the current climate

full pumice
#

Yeah. I like it when he goes off on tangents.

#

James was doing his best to pop an Adderall in Linus mouth while he was talking to get him back on track. He was like a lion tamer.

#

Linus Tamer

keen bloom
#

Yup

#

He tried to get him to do superchats but... that went nowhere

solar matrix
full pumice
#

@solar matrix post it in the forum under video suggestions.

solar matrix
#

Ok

full pumice
#

They don't look at discord, but they do look at video suggestions.

copper fog
#

hmm

#

linus should checkout magnepans

#

and electrostatics

solar matrix
full pumice
#

Post in video suggestions on the LTT Forum

frozen wedge
#

How late does the wan show start, because my time zone is Amsterdam

full pumice
#

1700pst

frozen wedge
#

Thanks

full pumice
#

Somewhere around 1730 usually pst

#

So in about 30 min to an hour

frozen wedge
#

They are a little bit late i think? 😂

devout plover
keen bloom
#

probably wanted to finish up filming something

empty glen
#

he posted in the twitch chat hes doing wan show from home and having issues getting the machine to work

#

o

#

i just looked up

devout plover
#

They need to go live on linustechtest

#

so we can watch the struggle

frozen wedge
#

Ahh whats the name of their Twitch channel, Just linustechtips or?

devout plover
#

linustech

frozen wedge
#

Thanks

full pumice
#

WE LIVE ON FP

#

and TWITCH

quiet marsh
#

Wb yt

keen bloom
#

nothing there yet

full pumice
#

F

keen bloom
#

hahaha linus "let's see what happens if i just dasb-"

wheat zephyr
#

Lol he lost connection switching to ethernet

keen bloom
#

heheh

wheat zephyr
#

Laptop pains

keen bloom
#

this is such great material

quiet marsh
#

Is it just linus?

keen bloom
#

i think linus is the source

#

so if he goes down, everything drops

wheat zephyr
#

Luke is streaming from his house, framed side by side through Linus' stream

keen bloom
#

so linus needs a connection good enough to receive luke's feed and broadcast both

#

youtube about to come online

#

hopefully

slow coral
#

There's no audio, has audio..

sleek wraith
#

100 million dollars

keen bloom
#

wan-show should do a raid every week

gaunt zinc
#

At the part talking about if chrome and Google would do an ad blocker, I think they will, because they ALREADY have an opt-out of some kind that they have made on the chrome store

drifting creek
raven mirage
#

Does anyone remember the WAN show where Linus was talking about Carpool Critics being pitched to him? I'm trying to cite it on a blog post on how bosses can encourage creative thinking

unreal minnow
#

wide area network

full pumice
#

No

magic breach
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Finally getting this watching the WAN show from this week and LOVE the major Parsec mention. I've been rolling them to connect to my editing rig from coffee shops as well as running a game streaming server and it's amazing. Pretty awesome to see the LTT team using this tool!

safe fulcrum
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I sent message to LMG - Hopefully they have a series 2 of 'Secret Shopper', December 2020 would be right time for it. Apparently Janice still works there, but no Ivan - But Jake could be good to fill that buddy to 'Linum' role. If Janice not available, I have an idea - Riley puts his charming amateur acting talents to work and does his best impression of a clueless, bumbling 'Elderly Man' over the phone to the system builders/customer service personnel. 🙂

astral rock
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yea that would be good, i enjoyed secret shopper

haughty rain
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Anybody else miss the old WAN show set, with the locker and shelves?

silent hearth
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Just joined to comment on Luke talking about outputting OBS to Discord at 17:12: there's a super handy plugin https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-virtualcam.539/ that makes your main OBS screen display as a webcam option, we've used it for the exact same reason, hope it helps

keen bloom
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@haughty rain I miss it aswell

warped rampart
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Hey chat. When replying to this message please @ me or DM me.

Was Linus son collecting foreign coins and stuff? I got some I got from my dad I feel like passing on. It doesn't interest me as much as it might interest his kid.

full pumice
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@warped rampart yes

full pumice
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@keen bloom

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LIVE on FP

plain wigeon
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...I can hear them but not see them

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Youtube is working but FP is audio only 🤷‍♂️

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Reloaded the page and now I've got video on FP

little minnow
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so confused. its like the WAN show was on time?

plain wigeon
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Yeah. Guess not having distractions at the office means they can both be on time (and ironing out streaming system a bit better than last week)

little minnow
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WAN Show has turned into Random Chat these days

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meh; I still tune in

reef mist
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i remember the old days of linustechtips

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the kitchen days

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when the kitchen was an actual kitchen

sudden mural
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I miss the couch and when they tripped over cables everytime they got up

keen bloom
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@keen bloom That is exactly why i love him on the WAN show, Its great to hear the opinion of someone who is so heavily into tech and his thoughts about things that smaller channels just dont have
@vapid pendant yes but i dont care about his car and his kids

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i did say non tech stuff....

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by "things" I assume u mean tech related stuff

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so still exactly why he is kinda annoying

pale phoenix
elder lintel
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Wait but that’s not the first monitor with DSC

elder lintel
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Linus has already done a review of a monitor that uses it although I can’t remember if he talked about DSC

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The pro display xdr

pale phoenix
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naybe the first for gaming monitor?

elder lintel
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I watched that video again and thats what they say in the video

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that might be true

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misleading title though

elder lintel
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It's fairly new in the sense of being incorporated directly into monitors

thorny hamlet
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Will they still do the show tonight even though it’s a holiday?

lavish badger
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good question

astral rock
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probably not

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well actually they record them back to back so it's fine...

full pumice
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#LIEnus

steady isle
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<

lethal saffron
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The stream key was just leaked on WAN yo

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@graceful oracle Ping Linus or Luke, the stream key got leaked

graceful oracle
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What

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Youtube or twitch?

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Screenshot?

lethal saffron
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You heard me, Linus accidentally pasted a screenshot in YT chat

graceful oracle
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(DM me preferably)

odd rain
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accidently showed the private chat with luke

pine veldt
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@odd rain Screenshot or it hasn't happend

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is this the Real Elon Musk in this Chat?

graceful oracle
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Yeah that's not even the wan show stream key

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And it's already invalid

full pumice
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Hey Jake!

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You going to be doing csgo later?

pine veldt
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Seems Elon Musk is in YT Chat

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saw at least one Guy with his name as Username

graceful oracle
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Maybe

pine veldt
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Hm. Can't scroll back in chat to screenshot it

keen bloom
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I think musk has bigger things to worry about

pine veldt
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No afaik he's verry active in Social Media...in person

full pumice
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All profits from these t-shirts will be used to fund efforts around COVID-19 research and relief in Canada. Each dollar raised toward those efforts will be matched toward Folding@Home by Intel, up to a maximum contribution of $40,000 USD. https://www.lttstore.com/products/folding-home-x-linus-tech-tips-t-shirt

gaunt zinc
pine veldt
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didn't know lukes GF is streaming too

keen bloom
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And now we-

pine veldt
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-have a Bingo? Just guessing how this sentence is gonna end

gaunt zinc
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, is what you thought I was going to say, but it was ME, DIO!

pine veldt
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yeah it was on an older Wan-Show seen that...thx for the refresh

dapper grove
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a little late to this one lol. but just saw the wan show episode with the ups almost burning down the server room. have you guys looked into cardox systems? use to work on printing presses which have sensitive equipment and are very flammable and they use it. basically it blasts CO2 to remove oxygen from the room. they also make portable extinguishers which are nice to have on hand.

uncut geode
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Linus's beard scares me.

tribal merlin
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@uncut geode

keen bloom
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Nice

shell pier
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He looking fine AF

keen bloom
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He should keep the beard

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I'll unsubscribe if he shaves

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lmao

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😆

astral rock
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i hate the beard

grim sun
dire siren
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Am I alone in thinking that AMD should invest in a cpu mounting solution, like intel does? it would prevent cpu's from coming out of their sockets with the cooler when you want to change it out, etc, yes?

astral rock
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what?

glossy latch
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Yeah explain

grizzled charm
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when removing coolers on amd systems, the thermal paste adhesive forces is enough to grip onto the cpu and pull them right out of the socket, despite it being clamped down

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the trick is to twist and wiggle the cooler while removing it, but it can be difficult with some large air coolers

gaunt zinc
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what "time" is the wan show scheduled for?

full pumice
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Pick a time any time

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17:00 PST is what it is supposed to be

gaunt zinc
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so in "an hour"

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lol

amber iron
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So 4 am?

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For me

keen bloom
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@amber iron if it's 3:20 am there right now, yes

amber iron
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It was 3 20 am when you sent that

keen bloom
pine shadow
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1700 PT is 40min ago isn't it? But Wan is never on-time.

keen bloom
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Nope, in 19 minutes

pine shadow
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Ahhh I know what I did lol...

1700 PT is 0000 GMT but UK is currently BST not GMT doh.

keen bloom
pine shadow
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So it's meant to start in 17min what we saying I think 14min late this week.

keen bloom
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Let's do 17 minutes
Since it's the 17th in that time zone

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It's really clever that they make it a bit later sometimes so it doesn't look like it's pre-recorded

marsh skiff
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Bruh there l8

gaunt zinc
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ya so

pine shadow
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Lol #lieness

keen bloom
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#LIE-nus

pine shadow
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Floatplane is down so definitely going to be late now

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Luke be in panic mode right now

keen bloom
marsh skiff
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#lienus

pine shadow
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Maybe they were actually on time for once but server didn't know how to handle it and crashed lol

keen bloom
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luke rn

gaunt zinc
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wait is it up

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is the stream up i cant see it

marsh skiff
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Nope

gaunt zinc
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ah

pine shadow
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Floatplane still down

marsh skiff
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Bloody hell always late

gaunt zinc
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wish they would schedule it

marsh skiff
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It's 1am in ireland

gaunt zinc
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its 7:13 pm here

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sad bc now it dinner time..

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i swear.. every. time.

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watch them come on in 4 min

marsh skiff
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20 min late ffs

gaunt zinc
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^

pine shadow
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FP still down for now so doubt it

marsh skiff
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And still no sign of life

pine shadow
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20min late is still early.

keen bloom
gaunt zinc
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now i hope it is later so i can eat dinner and come back

pine shadow
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They have been over and hour late before now.

gaunt zinc
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o0f

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Jakkuh is playing MC, prob on the server

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im SMHing my head

pine shadow
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I can't see them starting for atleast 15-20min by time the fix the website issues then load test it to make sure it ain't going to break again then move focus back to maybe streaming.

gaunt zinc
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oh wait

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what was that site of the status

pine shadow
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That's some sexy latency

keen bloom
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5k, oof

gaunt zinc
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iv had worse.. trying to watch youtube

pine shadow
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5000 would be timeout

gaunt zinc
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when flightradar24 doesnt show anything but you 100% felt a chinook go over

marsh skiff
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Should I wait for the wan show or just sleep its 1am here

pine shadow
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So it's just completely non responsive

marsh skiff
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What ye think

pine shadow
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I'm in UK so same time zone lol

marsh skiff
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Bc I'm in ireland

pine shadow
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I'm staying awake as I always do then I always missing the last 5min ha ha

marsh skiff
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First time watching live i usually just watch the next day

gaunt zinc
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bruhh just check the logs to see what happened between 23:51 and 23:54

pine shadow
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Ahhh if I'm not working I always watch live

gaunt zinc
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if i get back and its been live, i use DVR at 2x speed to catch up to live

pine shadow
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But since quarantine I been working insane hours so I always seem to fall asleep before the end

gaunt zinc
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gtg to dinner

plain wigeon
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Live on twitch

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Not seeing it on YT

worthy eagle
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It says live in 4 hours 🤣

pine shadow
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Live on twitch

plain wigeon
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Still figuring out audio though

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Luke is muted 🤣

pine shadow
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Don't go live on YT until the sorted issues normally get to see the setup situation on FP and twitch first.

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And twitch now off while they change to a test stream???

cosmic horizon
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yeah did everyone else's twitch go down?

plain wigeon
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Yeah, it's been a bit iffy

ancient orbit
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did apple even call the se cheap

gaunt zinc
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back just in time

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… and FP is stil down lao

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apple is abiut to figure out people like good cheap phones

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and their minds will be blown that people dont want to spend a lot on a phone

keen bloom
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I think Linus forgot to remove timestamps and WAN show downloads for the desc. on youtube

gaunt zinc
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someone in youtube donated ¥5000 which is close to $50 USD

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LMAO

keen bloom
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AND IT WAS FOR THE BEARD

gaunt zinc
keen bloom
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OOF

ocean kelp
keen bloom
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omg

ocean kelp
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Linus and Luke are definitely fed up with the fanboys

keen bloom
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Probably

ancient orbit
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someone screwed up the description

gaunt zinc
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ya we know

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liquid metal

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gas explosion

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that was a great segway

ocean kelp
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Luke is dying over there

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Linus is talking about balls and Luke can’t keep it together

gaunt zinc
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^

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🏀 ⚽ balls

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is he getting Tesla HVAC? No. its not out (or even announced) yet.

ocean kelp
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Imagine the “talk” from Linus

gaunt zinc
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omfg that would be great

ocean kelp
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This awkward conversation was brought to you by PIA

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Which in that context has two meanings

wind idol
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I sure hope Linus checks out /r/hvac

gaunt zinc
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why

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is cassette hvac bad

wind idol
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people with experience know a lot of issues with DIY stuff

gaunt zinc
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true

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When Tesla's HVAC is announced and such, he should get it . Their heat pumps are incredible, and it solves problems with low tempatures

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Allo is more competition to Snapchat, and Duo is competition to Facetime.
Hangouts and meetings etc. is competition to Skype and such.

Still though, consolidation would be good.

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LMAO pranked

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if Linus sells his switch he should sign it and sell it for like $600

ocean kelp
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Linus doesn’t seem like the kinda dude to do that

gaunt zinc
dusky stratus
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ooooooh didn't know that this channel existed

velvet edge
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?

gaunt zinc
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a message from out sponsor... lmao

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this chapter is brought to you by PIA

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he has to have his trademarked segways

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what did she say at the end

cosmic valley
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Was the WAN show not streamed on youtube?

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I'm dumb, but so is youtube. Found it

pine veldt
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what did she say at the end
@gaunt zinc You can watch on her Twitch-Stream

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plantytime-weathered

gaunt zinc
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lol

bronze shoal
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DED CHAT

astral rock
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it's the only chat i have unmuted cuz all the others r too active lol

keen bloom
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Same here

crude scaffold
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can we get twitch mods, cuz trolls and crap

warm meteor
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Why do I keep sending superchats to not exist

hoary falcon
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did you put on your invisibility cloak?

full pumice
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If you send a super chat send it within the first minute. Remember. They are flooded with superchats and overwhelmed. If it is going to destroy you if they don't notice you, don't send it. Send it with the belief it is not going to be read. If it does, it will be a nice surprise. Say something meaningful and not stupid.

glossy latch
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How do I get unbanned from twitch chat? I have no clue what got me banned...

mortal heathBOT
full pumice
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wtf are you laughing at @mortal heath

prisma plume