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But when it comes to a computer, it's a lot harder to get two systems 100% perfectly duplicates than two pieces of outboard gear
That's where Carbon Copy has been doing solid, steady business for, what, 20 years now?
They had to announce earlier this year that this functionality won't be coming to Catalina due to the new security restrictions
Oh wait, correction, they have managed to resolve this in the last month or two.
yes
Im guessing it was just a new way of doing things that required dev work to figure out how to clone
Not that this matters much. A lot of people in the pro audio space can't touch Catalina due to the removal of 32-bit app support
and now everyone has a more secure OS with carbon copy support
the 32 bit app support loss is unfortunate for some people
but its been long enough that devs need to be forced to update to 64
for those who cant not use 32 bit apps at the moment, they can stay on mojave until their apps are updated
just for reference,
You can see from that page just how many audio device manufacturers are not supporting Catalina yet
There is a -lot- of older hardware out there that is still 100% functional that will never get 64-bit drivers
people got annoyed when windows killed 16 bit
but it was something that had to happen eventually
Why? Pro audio doesn't benefit from 64 bit.
It's not like graphics, where the expectations of resolutions, bit depths and such are continuing to rise.
I mean, not everything has to benefit, but technology gets better and shouldnt be held back by legacy support
it seems silly now to support 16 bit
Audio is audio. The output is is the same as it was 15 years ago.
but when that was killed people had the exact same reaction
if you really really need to run something thats unsupported, use a vm
for the transition period, use mojave
in fact literally every single professional should still be using mojave or even high sierra
25% of Macs are running older versions.
when every single technology becomes outdated, theres a transition period while developers move to the current technology
thats just how things happen
it happened from 16bit to 32bit
it happened from powerpc to intel
And by "older verions" I mean older than High Sierra
Part of that, of course, is that Apple abandoned everyone with pre-mid-2012 hardware with Mojave
Why? So literally a handful of software developers at Apple can have an easier time writing graphics code. That's IT.
the hardware cutoff was stupid
The SAME PEOPLE decided the 64-bit cutoff. They're valuing their internal engineering teams more than their customers.
The SAME PEOPLE also are the ones coming up with arbitrary reasons to cut off NVidia.
people have developed patches that allow it to work without issues
the nvidia thing isnt a dev issue, its a politics issue
if the companies werent fighting, there would probably be support
It's the same people. This isn't a very large group of people at Apple.
Apple is perceived as a massive company, but the actual division with the core macOS engineers and their managers isn't that large.
They're always trying to find ways to make their life easier in a world where expectations are getting higher with every release.
and the 64 bit thing is more than just a saving dev time thing
theres power and space savings
But they're doing so in a way that pisses off ranges of customers in a way they haven't done since the mid-1990s
Power and space savings are interesting to Macbook Air owners
Not to Mac Pro owners
a very small amount of people are going to be annoyed for a few years
devs are going to update their apps
and literally everyone is going to be in a better position in 5 years
except for a very small minority that will need virtual machines for some stuff
this transition is identical to what windows did
it had to happen eventually, and maybe it was slightly premature, but thats apple
nobody is getting screwed over by this in the short term, you can just not update
and by the time not updating will be really bad, I bet most apps will be 64 bit
No, it's not identical to what Windows did
Oh my goodness that's a fucking dumb statement.
Windows bends over backwards for backward compatibility, to the detriment of the advancement of the OS
It's the complete opposite of what Apple does
Eliminating 32-bit app support was announced for macOS at the 2018 State Of The Platform talk at WWDC. That was 18 months ago
Im talking about this exact situation when windows killed 16 bit app support and people were pissed
Contrast this with Windows, which, 290+ months after the release of Windows 95 is still able to run 16 bit apps. You can't use the 64 bit version of Windows, but the 32 but one is still supported
18 months
290 months
Not. The. Fucking. Same.
16 bit support is off by default in, I think it's Windows 8 and later.... but you enable the "NTVDM" legacy component on Windows 10 1909, and you can run 16 bit apps
Look, Pixel, I can tell you're desperate to be right about this, but geez.... you've got some gaps in your knowledge.
I'll leave this image here of someone installing Office 4.3 on Windows 10 to make my point.
vista killed 16 bit app support
it was a huge thing
windows 7 added it back by emulating xp
NO. STOP TALKING.
YOU'RE WRONG.
Jesus fuck, this can be proven by just using the thing
windows 10 has an optional vm that runs 16 bit apps
catalina, can run 32 bit apps in a vm
here look at ms support from 2005 when vista came out saying you cant run 16 bit apps
So you're just going to ignore the picture you see on your screen then. Office 4.3 on Windows 10.
Seriously though, go grab a copy of Windows 10 32-bit, and enable NTVDM, and you'll see
Don't trust a forum post from 2005.
Do you need it in video form?
No, it's not.
I know what it stands for, I'm actually an expert on this part of Windows. Used to work with the Windows source code in a previous job.
It isn't a "virtual machine" in the sense of vmware
NTVDM has been around since NT 3.1. It created an environment for NT which made a process space look vaguely DOS-like
NT 3.1 required NTVDM to run regular Windows 3.1 applications programmed for the original pre-32 bit Windows API, too
I could tell a whole story about how someone from the OS/2 team at IBM proudly showed off their superior implementation of the NTVDM idea in OS/2 Warp. This was at Comdex 1995. We were working together.
OS/2 was marketed as "a better Windows than Windows" during that time. This emulation layer was a big part of that
The Wikipedia article (which I wrote part of, 12+ years ago) is reasonably accurate. I suggest reading it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_DOS_machine
Virtual DOS machines (VDM) refer to a technology that allows running 16-bit/32-bit DOS and 16-bit Windows programs when there is already another operating system running and controlling the hardware.
@elder lintel "everyone is going to be in a better position in 5 years"
5 years? Really? what about now?
I'm tired of hearing stuff like that, I need it to work now.
If it works perfectly right now, don't update. It's not complicated
was there now wan show today?
Um... WAN show's are on Friday's around 5pm PST ish.
no worries. i sometimes think the WAN show is on saturdays.. because notifications mess it up for me..
but yes. its' usualy on fri's
So is there a WAN show tonight?
I need Wan
Did they say they were taking this Friday off? I can not remember.
They might still be busy with the red camera shoot... But yeah, I hope they get live soon
IT'S LIVE!!!!!
so... Either facebook lies, or Linus lies. I'm betting on facebook 😂
FYI, advertisers can trigger this by accident if they simply export a single record from Facebook's Business Manager & re-import it, even if they don't use the imported data. AKA don't worry comrade, Facebook's advertising platform is definitely not just as broken as using Facebook itself. /s
I gotta watch my memes somewhere 😂 . But thats kinda stupid from facebook. Lets put it on the list of stupid stuff they did.
@toxic flint I read that quite hot debate between you and Pixel but I admire your knowledge. I didn't even realise Windows 10 had 16-bit support, and I've learned a few things from what you've said about the NTVDM. Cheers.
@cold salmon That wasn't a debate -- debates are about exploring different viewpoints or opinions. The other person was saying factually & provably untrue statements with a voice of authority. We have a different word for that: lying.
An interesting debate would be whether Microsoft should've put the effort into making 16-bit apps work on 64-bit Windows, or whether 16-bit support should be removed.... or even whether 32-bit support should be dropped altogether like Apple has done. There are interesting point to explore there. But it's not a healthy debate when people don't even have the basic facts correct.
None of this stuff is a secret.... it's all documented in the Windows Internals books and Microsoft's documentation.
When does the WAN show officially start?
pfft
that's the "official" start time
the real start time is generally between 10-45 minutes later
has wan show ever been on time?
I want to throw a super chat out this week, but I'm in the middle of nowhere PA so I am forced to walk a half mile from where I an staying and hide out on a relatives porch to get internet of any kind. I was hoping to minimize my wait time, but that's probably not going to happen.
And I think it may be about to rain... Nice
LOL
we have arrived!
i went nuts after a few months of working from home literally rolling out of my bed into my chair working, then rolling back into my bed to sleep
imagine... never leaving your chair... it should recline too!
It was 830 est last week. Let's see what it is this week. My YouTube notifications aren't working.
10 hours of the Jeopardy theme song (an American game show, for those not familiar with it).
I've already been waiting out here in the cold for an hour. What's another hour
become one with the cold
so...
wanshow live claims there live....(edit, discord decided to show me a old one, so no there not)
this waiting period sponsored by LTTstore.com
Lol
The owls are howling, they may come eat me soon
live!!!
i don't see it
i see it on Twitch
youtube fail, again
On Twitch and FP, yt is being dumb
might be PEBCAC though
Do they monitor this chat during the live stream?
i have never seen them reference Discord
Agreed
The date for ltx works for me. Hopefully Vancouver won't be as crowded. I am more sad that they won't have early bird ticket prices.
I got my tickets as soon as they were released.
nice thing about them not watching this is I can post stuff like this: w/o getting blocked by discord
rather blocked by twitch bot
the shirts were just ok (for those watching WAN)
imho
Are there esp8266s in that picture or are they other arduino boards?
all over the spectrum, all adafruit variants on a theme though, feathers and wings
Help me
For some content from LTT
Pc secret shopper part 2
In the twitch/floatplane/YouTube chat
Beta Squadron 4 lyfe
oof
I've found that getting them within the first 15 minutes is the best time.
That's when it's almost guaranteed to get read
I clicked off when they started talking about Star Wars. Haven't seen the movie yet.
Good call
Hopefully going tomorrow if it would stop raining.
hopefully
Night. See you guys next week.
i wanna talk star wars with linus!!!!!
just watched last nights wan and had some counter points. not to say im pleased with tros
I had a laugh when Linus was complaining about force powers coming out of nowhere
Because that's the way it's always been
Yeah he had a minute long rant on Techlinked the other day
Has anyone else heard about this?!?!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/ektg8u/chinese_spyware_preinstalled_on_all_samsung
All I have is a Google Home Mini I keep finding plugged in and unplugging 'cause other people use it.
My echo creeps me out sometimes. I have it on my desk and I work from home for Amazon. It is always listening.
Does anyone else feel uncomfortable when it comes to targeted advertisements?
if it's on random websites I wouldn't expect it from
but if I'm shopping on amazon, I honestly appreciate it. Sometimes they get stuff right as creepy as it is. My take away is to just use a segmented network (like a VPN) for my shopping, and a completely different one for banking.
the idea is actually helpful, the way they do it is super creepy
Hey, I saw you looked at this once. Here is 17 related products.
lol. I start taking offense when I buy something on amazon and something related to it ends up on my youtube feed
IKR?
software defined networks will be the end of that nonsense
where it will require explicit consent, so the people who want (some do) will get it and people like you and me can say no
Targeted ads creep me out, especially when I don't search for the thing. I have had issues with my eyes and this eye drop ad keeps playing on every YouTube video I watch.
I'm sure I probably googled something and don't remember it or the conspiracy theorist are right 🤣
Adblockers help prevent (but not fully eliminate) targeted ads, especially on YouTube...
Ublock Origin + PiHole + Invidious player + Sponsorblock Firefox plugin gets rid of everything just about.
idk how I feel about sponsorblock, I'd be fine with it getting rid of anything longer than 20 seconds but it is usually set to block everything, isn't it?
@keen bloom right? Like that's how the force works. How friggin lame would it be if you could never do anything new with the force. Literally every movie introduces new powers. All the old badass sith stories are about how they bend the force to their will and do crazy, new things. That's what the force is about bruh
Yup
The force us universal, meaning it's only limited by what the universe can do. And from what we've seen, the universe can do a lot
It can cause two neutron stars to collide. It can create a massive black hole. Pretty sure the force can do something just as bonkers
My niece turns 5 next week. I sent her a Rey doll that come with a little BB8. My sister in law vetoed the light saber. :(
something that is just so weird 😂
it was just to prove a point
the senator doesn't actually want to ban cell phones
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Turning off superchats when Linus haven't seen the movie but spoiling just couple weeks after
*Superchat == Chat
^^^^ yep I had to turn off WAN because I am seeing it tomorrow.
Bets on when wan will start tonight?
I am gonna guess 830 est
8:17 EST
that's right, i'm saying they'll be "early" for them
i stopped playing Elite D to be here, I'd forgotten how beautiful that game was in VR
It was 8:50 est last week
they aren't reliably late either to be fair
anytime i say "screw it, they'll be late" they're on time and show up the show is halfway over
I can't do VR. I have bad migraines and it makes me sick to play VR but I heard the Valve Index is better.
if you have any eye strangeness VR might not be suitable for you for a while
We just have the WMR. I am pretty sure it is the worst lol
one of my friends though who has astigmatism was not a VR fan until the quest (he can easily wear his glasses), he thought he'd have to wait for foveted rendering to be a fully deployed thing
It is coming along
Twitch on linustechtest lol
Wow you win!!!
they don't look here
ik speaking to the void
I like Luke's shirt
like i said, it sorta looks like it's vomiting
They need to fix the bottom text for monday.com - lmg.gg/monday.com redirects to the forum
luke's shirt type c?
@rigid turret yup
Yup
thats dope when can i expect a Displayport?
Ask in the merch channel
Is folding actually worth it for them or do home pc's do so little work these days?
or is there another good program that is helpful instead?
I was a part of folding month. All of us combined did a lot.
Every little bit helps.
Does it show what percentage you add though? I could see someone with like a data center adding most of that percentage while I do like 0.00001%
You can ask in the folding channel. I think they put the data on the forum but not sure if it showed what you are asking.
Third times a charm amirite
3rd $10 superchat to be ignored in a row
Lets see how far we can go
Do it at the beginning.
I did a 5$ one last week at the very beginning and they read it.
I posted it before the $100 guy posted his
is wan show supposed to be on floatplane
It is on floatplane live
@warm meteor they read the ones that were posted at the beginning. They only read his because it was 100$.
I can now finish last week's episode. Just watched the new Star Wars movie. OMG it was so good.
Lol I could help linus and Luke with understanding pool as well
It is worth it to buy Floatplane this month just for the LTT FP Exclusive video.
yes
Get Floatplane...everyone else is doing it
hello
Hi
Taking bets for WAN Show start time tonight. Week before last it was 8:50 EST, last week it was 8:17 EST. I am going to guess 8:30 EST.
Live on FP.
Scammed Super Chats
Yeah, that was super weird, but I think he had to go.
oh my god it's beautiful
yes
Mom I’m scared
Bets?
late...
Wouldn't be wan show if it was on time
Wan show might be cancelled...
Nah
1 buck on 23 minutes late
Haven't watched Wan show in years but figured I'd watch it today
What's the latest they've been?
live now
Sweet
Tried using the FP app. No chat option?
right
What fp
Floatplane
Why was the wan show edited? Near the end of the wan show it was clipped, what was said?
Shhh it's a secret
That moment when you have to hit the pause on the WAN show you look back and see this......
Old man Linus
grumpy
15
it's the closest they've been to on time in awhile
for typical behavior
It has never been on time lol
So ummm. Where the fek is Linus?
818est last week, 821, 817, 850, 830
Lol James called me out!
I sent him an email because I wanted to buy them movie tickets to help them out.
Candice
so close, and yet
I suspect they "work" for fun.
Well they made the comment that they buy their own tickets so I thought hey I could send them money for tickets.
And mail them to the office address?
Duh...I swear I am blonde sometimes.
Post that to the LTT subreddit
Someone else can have that sweet karma.
I mean I'll take it
Are there any archived Wan shows from before july 12 2013?
Not sure exactly when they started calling it the WAN show, but there are plenty of Linus Tech Tips Livestreams from before that
Comms download link: http://bit.ly/16c6hso
The After-party : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV2TDOGK2Pk
2:37 Microsoft has to pay sony for every Xbox one sold
6:47 Yousendit rebrands to HighTail
10:34 Throwable camerea creates stable video and panorama's
27:25 Hemlis - The ...
Looks like that's the first WAN Show, also incidentally found a playlist with the LTT Livestreams too 😛
Gonna have to go back and watch those after parties. I powered thru all wan shows back in 2015 or so and now i feel like i missed a bunch. Oof
they were so young, lol
Apparently there were only like 3 aftershows, a few baked into thw show at the end (with cake) and then it kinda just never happened aside from streams luke did.
Unless those exist somewhere, they are gone and that hurts a little.
The shows also get progressively shorter for some reason. They stopped having guests and stopped the call-in thing. My fave old thing was the twitter blitz. It was like superchats but didnt cost money.
Place your bets boys
Last six wan shows in Eastern Time: 7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30
i hate timezones. especially when what i want to watch is over ocean. i say they are going to be 40 minutes late.
815 FP
cancel PIA then
Yep
I opened this in incognito mode
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Linus is right about the car service
he's right,but it's a bs thing. Where does that leave the owner when he goes to resell the car.
Can't resell a fully loaded tesla because certain features will go away.
Yeah, that'd be the sucky thing
But at the same time, ownership of cars is starting to go away so..
Just like how Windows is becoming a 'service' now
No, people will own cars, and its going to be where your car can become PASSIVE income by letting it be part of the fleet while you are at work, and tell it when it can be part of it, etc etc. THAT is the Tesla Dream.
Lol, we don't own hardly anything anymore. Its all downloads and codes to activate things. I pay for the majority of things with apple pay on my watch!
But do you really own it at that point?
Yes
That was a matrix moment
lol
All of my games are all on Steam now
But everything is heading into the 'renting' direction
Hell, you hardly own your identity anymore
You pay for it, use as as much as you want, then say that during specified time periods, you get paid for others to use it. you are not the customer, you are a provider if you own a Tesla. Thats how it will be, YOU own and maintain it, but you make money off it where it pays for itself eventually.
yes,and as much as im sure some people hated steam at first,its really handy when I have redo a computer and all my games are right there when I come back.
^
Thats why Tesla has the interior camera and such, Tesla is going to sell insurance for those who opt into the fleet in case a fleet rider messes up their cars.
the data collection coming from a tesla car has to be insane. I'd love to see all the data being transmitted 🙂
Yep
But you still don't own the car, at least on the 'technicality'
you PAY for a tesla to give THEM data to improve the autopilot. insane.
as much as I would LOVE to have one, I also would be scared to. Along the same lines as some IT professionals who have no smart devices in their house.
no, you own it. You buy it, and own it, but let others use it.
Here is an analogy
Does Google Drive own their servers, since they have people pay for and use space on it? Of corse they do.
In the same way, you will own your Tesla, but you can opt-in to letting it be used as part of the fleet, where you get paid for 1) letting them use it 2) maintaining it (cleaning it up etc) and probably get discounts at service center and/or their upgrades like premium connectivity.
Regardless, Tesla stock is soaring
Ah
I would but but I have no money lmao
They are just trying to throw shade and act like they aren't scared of their competition.
Literally, the Switch sold more in its first year than Xbox and PS4 combined..
At this point, Nintendo is even biting at the heels of Sony
To say that Sony isn't your main rival is just down right nonsense
I'm not much for mobile gaming, but I see the switch freaking everywhere. I also still love my PSP.
The switch isn't just a mobile system though
It's both a home console and a mobile one
It's the hybrid of both
It's literally what the Gamecube and the Wii U were suppose to be
Heck, that's even why it's called the Switch lol
Because it can "switch" between modes
Lol
the switch really shows what ARM can do
over x86
and yet it's using a dated maxwell based tegra GPU. just imagine if nvidia made a brand new Tegra based on the new upcoming "Ampere"
will blow xbone x and ps pro out of the water on perf/watt
^
The Switch could easily outclass even the likes of a high end PC with the right hardware
this is why apple's A series has been so successful.
^
Man I'd love to be one of the people ahead in the Switch hardware department..
Would suggest a 3d printable joycon shell 😄
FDM version or SLA
How would ltt get in trouble for "same bat time"?
For those rewatching on Twitch looking for the Discord video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOjOA9tWs7U
I love that they mentioned Stick RPG in the show! It was one of my favorites and introduced me into a little coding when I was younger.
i love going to sleep on a friday night knowing that when i wake up WAN show will be live
when does wan show start
Pick a time any time
when is it suppose to start
Last seven show start times in Eastern time. , 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30
It is supposed to start at 17:00 PST (5:00)
20:00 EST (8:00)
So guys... I'm out of sync because of Summer time etc. How long until WAN Show?
I just answered that question
Ok so it's 16:10 PST now... So it's due to start in 50min.
Sorry your answer didn't help someone running on GMT 👌 and yes I know it's rarely on time...
Thank you anyway I should have just googled instead of asking.
Nah. It's no problem. Sorry I only know PST and EST. Someone usually posts in here when it is live and it is usually a few min earlier on FP.
That's why I prefer to just tell people how long it is until the time that gives them ability to work it out in their own time code. After all there are more than 24 Time Zones.
You know what? That makes sense. Lol

its time
#wanshow-live for notifications. #472210112686325770 to enable notifications.
Why are you creeping
so that out of context clip for subscriptions being good?
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There are of course third party options for those people
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I was an hour behind
actually I just verified my discord account with a phone number to find out why
I'm not sure why I have a weird nickname but I'm not changing it
it looks nice
actually yes I am
I can't see today's wan show?
I can't see the wan show
I can't change my nickname
It got set to private a couple minutes ago and kicked everyone watching out
i was halfway through and it just stoped
Why is the wan show set to private?
The twitch vod is still there
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LMAO you can't post their twitch video, cause it censors you
@prisma plume tunnel bear references. Oo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
it buffers every two seconds for some reason
Same. at 7 mins it keeps going in and out every 2 seconds.
and then freezes... unwatchable on Youtube, but it works in Twitch
Floatplane had no issues... of course
Last eight show start times in Eastern time. 8:12, 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30
so the wan show on average is 18.125 minutes late with that data
Thank you. I don't do the maths.
lol
chilling out in here and twitch....whenever they go live
maybe whonnock took a shit again
remember when they had a few weeks where their stream was at gain -100dB
like you couldn't hear it
it was crap
equippment...
821
al pacino
Live on FP
Its live
My estimation was 1 minute out
youtube super behind
Yup, so just watch it on Twitch.
luke looking tired af
Get FP
i was on the beta
but now i dont have an acount anymore
i had that $2 a month thing
I'll pass; don't need yet another subscription streaming service biting its' way into my wallet. May as well just go back to the atrocity that is cable television service.
I cant think of how this would benefit anyone,who are they trying to appeal to? The costs dont make sense.
Nissan is grasping and won't be around for much longer. Ghosn ruined the company.
Goodbye sweet stream, we'll miss you.
rip
Stream died? Oh...
maybe live on minecraft?
sigh there be Luke & Linus, misinformed about DOCSIS technology. Probably a good idea to educate one's self before spouting off about technology, else you lose trust in your audience. They're not wrong about FTTP/FTTH only being available in certain neighborhoods though, as Telus is indeed leading the way there, assuming you can deal with their overseas tier 1 support agents.
@random trout Maybe you should be a DOCBRO and offer to educate them on DOCSIS

How confusing would it be if they went with calling it “Fiber To The Premises”
“FTTP”
Good callout @drifting creek - more than happy to. 🙂 The cable industry indeed cannot yet offer the same symmetrical speeds as FTTP/FTTH because DOCSIS cable modems depend upon a certain number of up/downstream channels for upload/download speeds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Comparison
DOCSIS 3.0/3.1 has been rolled out across most cable providers (in North America, at least) as more and more houses are sandwiched into "neighborhoods" like sardines in a can, and can provide speeds up to 10Gbit down / 2Gbit up. (for an entire neighborhood, not a single home.)
ISPs who deploy their networks correctly, like Shaw, Rogers, or Comcast (even if Comcast makes you wait on hold forever), run fiber to the node from a localized headend, with each node serving no more than 500-1000 households, tops. (more nodes are added to eliminate congestion, as required.)
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There's the link to the vod, got unlisted for some reason
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Right now the industry is waiting on the final revision(s) of DOCSIS 4.0 by CableLabs before they invest millions of dollars in the necessary changes required to support said technology. My understanding is that once DOCSIS 4.0 is finalized, ISPs who've properly prepared for the upgrade can "flip a switch" area-by-area to enabled it.
This is a gross oversimplification, of course, but essentially this could involved adding/swapping in more upstream blades to ARRIS E6000 CMTS chassis units, assuming the plant equipment between the headend & nodes is up-to-par, and/or ensuring that there is ZERO traces of DOCSIS 2.0 equipment on a node, since this isn't 100% compatible with DOCSIS 4.0 frequencies.
I could go on, but I'll leave it at this high level overview for now. If anyone wants to learn more about how DOCSIS technology works, feel free to spark up a conversation in #networking. Full disclosure: I support whatever connectivity method works best in your area, so no "cable vs fibre" flamewars please.
I mean, based on some of the horror stories I've heard about Australia's NBN, dial-up might be more reliable down under, even if it's the slowest of all options.
Took 15 minutes or more just to get onto the internet. Sucked when someone picked up the phone and it had to start over. Someone Ok Boomer me.
Back in my AOL days
No need for any degenerating generation stuff - I don't fall under that age group, and yet I still know what that experience is like. We didn't have internet until I was well into high school, so I became very accustomed to using the neighbor's dial-up. (Luckily they had a second phone line installed for internet / home business use, so in the evenings / on weekends we never had to worry about being interrupted.)
Kids today don't know how good they have it lol
am i going crazy or is the wanshow not on youtube ?
they remove it after they stop the live broadcast . then it gets posted again normally about an hour later.
ty for the link
wtf, why is it unlisted?
could be editing it.
Usually to review it I guess, for personal information
More than once, I think it was Linus’s personal laptop, on WAN show they showed payroll
So about self driving cars and cars as a service. It's not going to replace all of it, only a portion of the market. Some people will still have their manual cars, just like how people still have games on physical media and cd's
i think in the future manual cars will be banned but there will still be a small proportion of people who own their own autonomous cars
until we stop using money and everything is controlled by AI (not joking btw)
Not so sure about manual cars being outright banned because there are cars from the 50's, 60's and 70's still on the road without any of the safety features that are in modern cars now
not saying it will be soon, but it will definitely happen once autonomous cars have been out for a while
banning manual cars does open up new possibilities for self driving cars as well
They'll be prevalent, sure. But there will always be that one person who owns a manual car and it will just be grandfathered into the new regs. I've seen that happen over and over
if 99% of cars are autonomous and they're been around for 50 years, i can't rly think of any reason why manual cars should be allowed
they would be so unsafe compared to the autonomous vehicles
I can. There will be massive pushback from car clubs if manual cars are to be banned
and no longer having to make cars respond to signals designed for humans (possibly replacing traffic lights with just a radio signal, or even scapping lanes on motorways and just letting the self driving cars all communicate together so traffic flows smoothly)
i'm not talking any time soon
barely anyone will use manual cars or even own a car
They'll still use traffic lights even in the future. Because people will still need to cross the street.
Yup. Right now it's too hard to pin down, but there will be room for both. This I've seen.
Lol it's funny how "manual car" refers to "manual driving" instead of "manual transmission" now...kinda scary how autonomous things are becoming 😬
As for me, I'll be driving manual manual cars because I enjoy it for a loong time to come, and I agree with @keen bloom that people who enjoy driving will still drive "manually", I doubt that'll be made illegal, it'll just be similar to the current state of manual transmission cars, where nobody knows how to drive them and they're getting more and more rare lol
Manual transmission cars are nowhere near as rare as I'm saying manual driving cars will be when they are banned, I'm talking a long time in the future
I know quite a few people with manual transmission cars
I have several manual cars. Only recently have I purchased an automatic and it was a $50 1996 F150 I got from a friend.
Solid deal lol
And then a week later the transmission crapped out
Nah, still runs and drives.
That was a bit of a joke on the general state of ford's, both from seeing them on the street and seeing a lot of them in the shop
hi people. I usually watch WAN show the day after cause I'm in europe, but I had some google rewards money to give in a superchat. Any idea how late the wan show usually starts? And if possible either in vancouver time or just x minutes from now, if you would be awesome 🙂
1700 PST if you want a super chat read make it interesting and at the first of the show.
I'm not interesting 😂 although I was gonna ask about their offsite backup
but thanks. thats 02:00 my local time. I hope they aren't that late this time
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They will never be on time. It's kinda their thing.
yeah I gathered that from all the show's I've watched. but how much are they usually late?
also damn, nice shirt 🙂
Last nine show start times in Eastern time. 8:19, 8:12, 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30
@gentle vine did some maths last week and said it's around an average of 18 minutes late.
So should be on within 30 minutes from now.
lets hope so. Getting tired af 😂
Same
you also in europe?
well
The Wan show should be late by 18.22222222222222 minutes which has been determined by 9 pieces of data
well last time i was 1 minuite off
so this is the test of weither that was a fluke or not
the issue being the wan show being late is based purely off human factors like linus forgetting lol
😂 forgetting or just busy with some crazy project?
Both
Lol
lol
I'm usually a big supporter of his crazy projects, but pls not today 😂
Yeah speaking of which, I saw that he was doing some FPV stuff and I wanted to help him out on that. I don't really have any time right now to do video of the stuff I do so.. yeah kinda wish I could share it with you guys
youtube is having issues...
8:12 EST
What would be cool is a bot that live streams the Wan Show in a discord channel
why?
pfffttt pog thats why
okay
I don't care, I did my superchat, I'm going to sleep 😂 will watch the whole wan show when I wake up
"beatherable shoes"
https://i.imgur.com/BYrgFUH.png my initial quick and dirty wan show estimator
now just to learn how to use the YouTube API to retrieve every wan show late time
try adding the late time onto the usual time and display the time it should start in lots of different timezones
hmm interesting idea
i'll keep that in mind
currently bogged down in learning API stuffs and ISO 8601 intergration and all dat
successfully pulled all 267 archived wan shows https://i.imgur.com/LLpuM7Q.png
cool
update- after some tinkering and searching i now have a pretty good understanding of how to manipulate the 267 results i got
so if anyone wants a text file with 267 wan show titles 😂
^ so are you going to asymptotically determine what time exactly same bat time is ?
Bat time is very different from human time
It is indeed
I'm gonna make a bingo board one day. Suggestions for things to be on said bingo board??? 1. Wan gets interrupted by someone needing Linus for something. 2. Nick is standing here, what do you need Nick? 3. Luke says, you should probably not share my screen. 4. Free space is Wan is late 5. Complaint about YouTube.
someone purchased a .com domain for that?
OMG it is amazing! I love it!!!
Anyone know when the wan show is going live tonight?
@cosmic horizon pick a number any number
Basically throw a dart at the clock. It never starts at the same time
Last ten show start times in Eastern time. 8:12, 8:19, 8:12, 8:15,7:42, 8:18, 8:21, 8:17, 8:50, 8:30
Yes, sir!
Neat!
I'm not sure it has ever started on time.
I thought I might even be late,silly me
Late stream today
WAN show cancelled due to "Human Malware" 😉
Lol
yes ive finally gotten to the wanshow early
8:36
So realfaketshirts.com now redirects to LTTStore.com LOL
But seriously guys, put a linus face sticker on the back of the WAN show microphone 🙂
The wan show summed up in ime screenshot
But the question is: do you get a free sticker sheet with the sticker sheet...?
maaaaybe? 🙂
Luke said yes
xD
It was a ploy to get people to buy sticker sheets so they can overcharge without being called out 
The last one
When will we see HAMR in Petabyte Project #3 on LTT (not a ces demo)?
can we have live wan show audio on discord voice in the near future please???
lol
why is wan show early when linus isnt doing it?
he is usually filming right before the show, there are clips where he literally runs from a shoot into the wan show area
Linus cat died today, so hes got the right to take the day off
The latest WAN show is just another prime example of Americans not knowing EU regulations
GDPR is not about being creative, it's about privacy and data protection
DIRECTIVE (EU) 2019/790, which the latest copyright directive is probably the one they meant
doesn't it stand for "General Data Protection Regulation" lol (I'm from UK btw)
and even that one ain't that bad
yep
It's like confusing the DMCA with the PATRIOT act
DMCA is about copyright, never heard of PATRIOT
is the one giving US intelligence agencies unrestricted access to servers and data in the USA
probably still wrong presentation, but close enough
k
hi
i just joined to say that alex and riley had an amazing wan show, i enjoyed it a ton more than linus and luke
generally i dislike linus on wan he isnt very funny and he tends to go off on a ramble that is not relevant to tech
can we get new wan show hosts! haha
@keen bloom That is exactly why i love him on the WAN show, Its great to hear the opinion of someone who is so heavily into tech and his thoughts about things that smaller channels just dont have
is the wan show going to be on today
i think so. just don't know when
wow the half an hour non-tech just chatting section of WAN was just what i needed in the current climate
Yeah. I like it when he goes off on tangents.
James was doing his best to pop an Adderall in Linus mouth while he was talking to get him back on track. He was like a lion tamer.
Linus Tamer
Just found this. If y'all look at this channel it may be something to talk about this week. https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-and-intel-have-a-formidable-new-foe-but-youll-never-ever-guess-who
@solar matrix post it in the forum under video suggestions.
Ok
They don't look at discord, but they do look at video suggestions.
Post in video suggestions on the LTT Forum
How late does the wan show start, because my time zone is Amsterdam
1700pst
Thanks
They are a little bit late i think? 😂
UPDATE
probably wanted to finish up filming something
he posted in the twitch chat hes doing wan show from home and having issues getting the machine to work
o
i just looked up
Ahh whats the name of their Twitch channel, Just linustechtips or?
linustech
Thanks
Wb yt
nothing there yet
F
hahaha linus "let's see what happens if i just dasb-"
Lol he lost connection switching to ethernet
heheh
Laptop pains
this is such great material
Is it just linus?
Luke is streaming from his house, framed side by side through Linus' stream
so linus needs a connection good enough to receive luke's feed and broadcast both
youtube about to come online
hopefully
There's no audio, has audio..
100 million dollars
wan-show should do a raid every week
At the part talking about if chrome and Google would do an ad blocker, I think they will, because they ALREADY have an opt-out of some kind that they have made on the chrome store
wonder if luke got a costco bidet. round ones suck
Does anyone remember the WAN show where Linus was talking about Carpool Critics being pitched to him? I'm trying to cite it on a blog post on how bosses can encourage creative thinking
nevermind it's here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L15Ox1WN1yQ
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No
Finally getting this watching the WAN show from this week and LOVE the major Parsec mention. I've been rolling them to connect to my editing rig from coffee shops as well as running a game streaming server and it's amazing. Pretty awesome to see the LTT team using this tool!
I sent message to LMG - Hopefully they have a series 2 of 'Secret Shopper', December 2020 would be right time for it. Apparently Janice still works there, but no Ivan - But Jake could be good to fill that buddy to 'Linum' role. If Janice not available, I have an idea - Riley puts his charming amateur acting talents to work and does his best impression of a clueless, bumbling 'Elderly Man' over the phone to the system builders/customer service personnel. 🙂
yea that would be good, i enjoyed secret shopper
Anybody else miss the old WAN show set, with the locker and shelves?
Just joined to comment on Luke talking about outputting OBS to Discord at 17:12: there's a super handy plugin https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-virtualcam.539/ that makes your main OBS screen display as a webcam option, we've used it for the exact same reason, hope it helps
This plugin provides a directshow Output as a virtual webcam .
How to use:
Output:
- Selecting Tools -> VirtualCam
- Press start button and close diailog
- Open your 3rd party program and choose "OBS-Camera" as a Video input
Filter:
1.Add a...
@haughty rain I miss it aswell
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Was Linus son collecting foreign coins and stuff? I got some I got from my dad I feel like passing on. It doesn't interest me as much as it might interest his kid.
@warped rampart yes
...I can hear them but not see them
Youtube is working but FP is audio only 🤷♂️
Reloaded the page and now I've got video on FP
so confused. its like the WAN show was on time?
Yeah. Guess not having distractions at the office means they can both be on time (and ironing out streaming system a bit better than last week)
i remember the old days of linustechtips
the kitchen days
when the kitchen was an actual kitchen
I miss the couch and when they tripped over cables everytime they got up
@keen bloom That is exactly why i love him on the WAN show, Its great to hear the opinion of someone who is so heavily into tech and his thoughts about things that smaller channels just dont have
@vapid pendant yes but i dont care about his car and his kids
i did say non tech stuff....
by "things" I assume u mean tech related stuff
so still exactly why he is kinda annoying
wondering if linus media groups can talk a little bit about this https://youtu.be/9_YotWojyUU
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Wait but that’s not the first monitor with DSC
Linus has already done a review of a monitor that uses it although I can’t remember if he talked about DSC
The pro display xdr
naybe the first for gaming monitor?
I watched that video again and thats what they say in the video
that might be true
misleading title though
It's fairly new in the sense of being incorporated directly into monitors
Will they still do the show tonight even though it’s a holiday?
good question
#LIEnus
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The stream key was just leaked on WAN yo
@graceful oracle Ping Linus or Luke, the stream key got leaked
You heard me, Linus accidentally pasted a screenshot in YT chat
(DM me preferably)
accidently showed the private chat with luke
Maybe
Hm. Can't scroll back in chat to screenshot it
kk there is a Boatload of Elon Musk Accounts on youtube https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Elon+Musk&sp=EgIQAg%253D%253D. But the only one matching the Profile Picture was russian...so no: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1RmufBsINRqI4mLih0eOA
I think musk has bigger things to worry about
No afaik he's verry active in Social Media...in person
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remember when he accidentally leaked https://status.floatplane.com/.. if thats what they leaked idk
didn't know lukes GF is streaming too
And now we-
-have a Bingo? Just guessing how this sentence is gonna end
, is what you thought I was going to say, but it was ME, DIO!
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yeah it was on an older Wan-Show seen that...thx for the refresh
a little late to this one lol. but just saw the wan show episode with the ups almost burning down the server room. have you guys looked into cardox systems? use to work on printing presses which have sensitive equipment and are very flammable and they use it. basically it blasts CO2 to remove oxygen from the room. they also make portable extinguishers which are nice to have on hand.
Linus's beard scares me.
Nice
He looking fine AF
i hate the beard
Am I alone in thinking that AMD should invest in a cpu mounting solution, like intel does? it would prevent cpu's from coming out of their sockets with the cooler when you want to change it out, etc, yes?
what?
Yeah explain
when removing coolers on amd systems, the thermal paste adhesive forces is enough to grip onto the cpu and pull them right out of the socket, despite it being clamped down
the trick is to twist and wiggle the cooler while removing it, but it can be difficult with some large air coolers
what "time" is the wan show scheduled for?
@amber iron if it's 3:20 am there right now, yes
It was 3 20 am when you sent that

1700 PT is 40min ago isn't it? But Wan is never on-time.
Nope, in 19 minutes
Ahhh I know what I did lol...
1700 PT is 0000 GMT but UK is currently BST not GMT doh.

So it's meant to start in 17min what we saying I think 14min late this week.
Let's do 17 minutes
Since it's the 17th in that time zone
It's really clever that they make it a bit later sometimes so it doesn't look like it's pre-recorded

Bruh there l8
ya so
Lol #lieness
#LIE-nus
Floatplane is down so definitely going to be late now
Luke be in panic mode right now

#lienus
Maybe they were actually on time for once but server didn't know how to handle it and crashed lol
Nope
ah
Floatplane still down
Bloody hell always late
wish they would schedule it
It's 1am in ireland
its 7:13 pm here
sad bc now it dinner time..
i swear.. every. time.
watch them come on in 4 min
20 min late ffs
^
FP still down for now so doubt it
And still no sign of life
20min late is still early.

now i hope it is later so i can eat dinner and come back
They have been over and hour late before now.
I can't see them starting for atleast 15-20min by time the fix the website issues then load test it to make sure it ain't going to break again then move focus back to maybe streaming.
oh wait
what was that site of the status
That's some sexy latency
5k, oof
iv had worse.. trying to watch youtube
5000 would be timeout
when flightradar24 doesnt show anything but you 100% felt a chinook go over
Should I wait for the wan show or just sleep its 1am here
So it's just completely non responsive
What ye think
I'm in UK so same time zone lol
Bc I'm in ireland
I'm staying awake as I always do then I always missing the last 5min ha ha
First time watching live i usually just watch the next day
bruhh just check the logs to see what happened between 23:51 and 23:54
Ahhh if I'm not working I always watch live
if i get back and its been live, i use DVR at 2x speed to catch up to live
But since quarantine I been working insane hours so I always seem to fall asleep before the end
gtg to dinner
It says live in 4 hours 🤣
Live on twitch
Don't go live on YT until the sorted issues normally get to see the setup situation on FP and twitch first.
And twitch now off while they change to a test stream???
yeah did everyone else's twitch go down?
Yeah, it's been a bit iffy
did apple even call the se cheap
back just in time
… and FP is stil down lao
apple is abiut to figure out people like good cheap phones
and their minds will be blown that people dont want to spend a lot on a phone
I think Linus forgot to remove timestamps and WAN show downloads for the desc. on youtube
AND IT WAS FOR THE BEARD
HE DID
OOF
Someone paid money to ask this
omg
Linus and Luke are definitely fed up with the fanboys
Probably
someone screwed up the description
Luke is dying over there
Linus is talking about balls and Luke can’t keep it together
Imagine the “talk” from Linus
omfg that would be great
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Which in that context has two meanings
I sure hope Linus checks out /r/hvac
people with experience know a lot of issues with DIY stuff
true
When Tesla's HVAC is announced and such, he should get it . Their heat pumps are incredible, and it solves problems with low tempatures
Allo is more competition to Snapchat, and Duo is competition to Facetime.
Hangouts and meetings etc. is competition to Skype and such.
Still though, consolidation would be good.
LMAO pranked
if Linus sells his switch he should sign it and sell it for like $600
Linus doesn’t seem like the kinda dude to do that
works now
ooooooh didn't know that this channel existed
?
a message from out sponsor... lmao
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he has to have his trademarked segways
and he has to shill lttstore.com throughout the book
what did she say at the end
what did she say at the end
@gaunt zinc You can watch on her Twitch-Stream
plantytime-weathered
lol
DED CHAT
it's the only chat i have unmuted cuz all the others r too active lol
Same here
can we get twitch mods, cuz trolls and crap
Why do I keep sending superchats to not exist
did you put on your invisibility cloak?
If you send a super chat send it within the first minute. Remember. They are flooded with superchats and overwhelmed. If it is going to destroy you if they don't notice you, don't send it. Send it with the belief it is not going to be read. If it does, it will be a nice surprise. Say something meaningful and not stupid.
How do I get unbanned from twitch chat? I have no clue what got me banned...
wtf are you laughing at @mortal heath




