#networking

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amber yarrow
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yeah, it supports NAT loopback

fading oar
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it pings fine

peak cloak
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would love something like this

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hollow tapir
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netstat -ln | grep 6379

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from the redis server

peak cloak
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remotely as in the same LAN?

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firewall probobly

fading oar
faint depot
peak cloak
faint depot
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Hmm, as secure as that is, we've got phones. >.<

peak cloak
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uhh, you just have a access point

amber yarrow
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also if there's any problem with an asus router, you can flash merlin firmware on it

peak cloak
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my router is in the basement right now, FAR from the optimal place to have the wifi radio

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but my Access Point is in the center of the house

amber yarrow
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merlin supports pretty much every mainline asus routers

peak cloak
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right now I have the ER-X

fading oar
faint depot
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Is this router better than the asus one?

hollow tapir
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firewall rules

peak cloak
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depends how you look at it

amber yarrow
peak cloak
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it's not optimal to run things on routers

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not meant for that

faint depot
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Haha, futhark runes. I like the logo.

amber yarrow
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too late lol
vpn companies are advertising how to get your asus router to run OpenVPN services

faint depot
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Alright, I think I'll go with the Asus router, because I don't have a lot of space for an access point, and because I'm 100% going to flash that merlin firmware onto it.

peak cloak
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I have wireguard on mine for a site to site tunnel I have

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also, vpns are mostly such a scam

faint depot
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Hmm, I know some routers have VPN hosting built in.

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So that other people can access your NAT drives and whatever.

peak cloak
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well I do that, just not on the router

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run a wireguard server

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to access home network when I'm away

faint depot
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See what I mean by overwhelming?

peak cloak
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tf?

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"gaming"

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damn marketing sucks

faint depot
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the "high end game model" is something else entirely, and it's way cheaper.

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That's the "high end game model"

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This is the middle model.

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and this is the "tri-band"

peak cloak
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more spikes doesn't mean better

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the best wifi access points don't have any

faint depot
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So I guess the middle one?

peak cloak
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idk

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just saying

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it's the internals that matter

faint depot
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😭

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I can't read it.

peak cloak
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just marketing

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no way are you getting 2 gig over wifi

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they just tally up the aggregate wifi bandwidth and slap that on

faint depot
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Lol, I figured that's what it had to be.

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Well, my main system is always plugged in, it's my phone, my wife's phone, my wife's laptop, my other laptops, and my daughters laptop - that are all wifi.

amber yarrow
faint depot
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Hmm, that's probably faster than my internet allows

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My ISP**

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Hmm, but that's a dedicated fast port? That's not bad.

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Since I only have one system plugged in, I'll get a lot of benefit from it. Alright, I'm convinced. I'll purchase this router.

amber yarrow
peak cloak
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if you just have one device that has a 2.5g interface but nothing else with 2.5, then meh, it's kinda useless

amber yarrow
peak cloak
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not nas

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it should at least get 1 gig

amber yarrow
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WTF they have a gundam collab version

faint depot
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asus rt-ax89X ?

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That one looks way better.

amber yarrow
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89x if budget isn't your concern i guess
it's $400 from what i see

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but then you might be better off investing a whole mesh system if you have that much of money

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ax86u is around $250

faint depot
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Hmm, I guess that's a matter of diminished returns.

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I'm not getting a lot of value out of those extra dollars.

amber yarrow
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yeah, for single unit it's hard to beat in terms of value

faint depot
proud basin
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Hello,
I have a problem with my Raspberry. My model is PI 3 B+

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The problem is that i have it connected to network with multiple subnets and cant connect to it from the other subnets

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i've tried checking with tcptrack and the request gets to the pi, but it stays at SYN_SENT

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i need port 25565 to work from all subnets, but port 22 doesnt work as well

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any ideas?

waxen scroll
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does netstat show it listening on all IPs for those ports?

proud basin
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didn't try that yet

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how do i do that?
sorry, kinda newbie to linux

waxen scroll
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netstat -anp

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should see "0.0.0.0:22 LISTEN" and "0.0.0.0:25565 LISTEN"

proud basin
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on the pi or on my computer?

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also
i can connect to it without a problem from the same subnet

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just the other ones dont work

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found port 22

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i figured out that the pi is the one listening

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there's no 25565 one, but i can connect to it from the same subnet with no problems

hollow marlin
proud basin
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nope

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i've tried that

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but i can ping other devices in other subnets

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so i dont think its network problem

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looks like the pi is causing it

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one more detail:
it worked yesterday, but then i reset the pi

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and now it doesnt work

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and it that helps,
i have a wireguard client running and connected on the pi and i've set iptables to dnat incomming 25565 requests to my minecraft server ip over the wireguard network

hollow marlin
proud basin
hollow marlin
proud basin
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pi is 192.168.5.23

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pc from which i CAN connect is 192.168.5.24

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and pc from which i CAN NOT connect is 192.168.9.46

hollow marlin
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@proud basin When you attempt to ping the Pi from the PC, are you getting timed out or another message. Also try pinging from the Pi to the PC. Note, if the PC is Windows the firewall needs to be temporarily disabled to respond.
This is either a missing route, bad firewall policy or incorrect subnet mask.

proud basin
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so i tried pinging the other way arround and it fails too

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i'm on ubuntu desktop and i dont get any errors

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it just tries pinging until i stop it

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i tried ssh too and nothing happens -no timed outs, no nothing

peak cloak
proud basin
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the 192.168.5.x subnet is for ethernet connections and 192.168.9.x is for wifi connected devices

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so i can switch my pc between the subnets by unplugging my ethernet cable

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the pi is wired, so it is on the 192.168.5.x subnet

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i could connect it to wifi to get the second subnet, but that would be too slow

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this is the weird part:
this is ping attempt to 192.168.9.1 PI with local ip 192.168.5.23

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and this is ping attempt from my ubuntu pc with local ip 192.168.5.24 to the same ip

proud basin
proud basin
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anyone any ideas?
i really need this fixed

peak cloak
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what's the router then if pi is 192.168.9.1?

proud basin
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oh

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i gave up

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i reset the pi and i'm trying if clean install works

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aaand it still doesnt work

peak cloak
hollow marlin
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Resetting does nothing most the time. What router is in use?

proud basin
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i dont know

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this is a dorm network we are talking about

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that's why i'm using the wireguard link

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they are blocking most ports

peak cloak
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if you don't have access to router, than it's prob blocking it

proud basin
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but the traffic is getting to the pi

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i've tested with tcptrack

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the connection appeared there, but it stayed at SYN_SEND

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the pi got the request, but didn't let it through

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and when i tried ssh from the pi into my pc, there wasn't even an outgoing connection

hollow marlin
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Wireless is mostly setup as guest and not allowing clients to talk back to the LAN. If you run tcpdump on the Pi and try to ping or ssh, I can almost guarantee you're not seeing the traffic reach the pi

sour nebula
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which one should i get?

proud basin
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how do i fix it tho?

modest flame
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What's the best way to test the cables in my walls? Without driving to my office and getting the BERT. Will iperf3 give enough info? I would like to move my networking equipment from my home office to a better location in the house and want to make sure the cat5 cables installed back when the house was built in 2006 will be good enough:)

primal ice
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if the cables are cat5 (2 pair) you are going to be stuck at 100mb max speeds. if its cat5e (4 pair) you should be fine up to 1 gig ethernet.

modest flame
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its 5e

peak cloak
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what I would do if I were on campus, is get my own router

proud basin
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i've thought about that but that's too expensive for me xD

peak cloak
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a router is like what, 70 bucks?

proud basin
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but i would need to pay data for it monthly

primal ice
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no no you would be creating your own subnet off the schools network, and would have control of all the routing in your subnet then.

peak cloak
proud basin
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Yeah, but if i connect my router to their network, the whole thing goes down

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Trust me, i've tried

peak cloak
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what...

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that makes no sense, unless they have 802.1x or something

proud basin
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I dont even know

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But that's what happenned

proud basin
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Dont renember but i know i was setting it somewhere

fading oar
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what's a good firewall GUI program for linux

peak cloak
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nothing really I found was really that great

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maybe yast firewall, but idk of anything else

fading oar
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I downloaded whatever the stupid thing is called ‘dwgr’ it’s a basic gnome one

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For some reason I just can’t connect my computers at all
Ports are open, they can ping, it worked before

thick minnow
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well they are very fricking cheap

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to get from there

lone sun
# modest flame its 5e

🙂 Just make sure you actually change it to full duplex 1gb in the adapter settings in Device Manager.

thick minnow
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Hi, I wander if I can treat DMZ NET like a guest NET, as another interface that managed with firewall rules.

primal ice
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DMZ is technically out side of the firewall. it has no firewall from the routers point of view. the devices put there would not be protected by the routers firewall.

thick minnow
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I'm using private IPs dose it correct for me?

upper jackal
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is it possible to put a entire VLAN in DMZ?

faint depot
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UGH, I'm so sick of living in Japan, seriously.

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I got a new router, and it has this kind of wire:

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How am I supposed to ground it when my power bar uses 3 prong?

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Like this

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.> Such a stupid system, and my landlord won't let us upgrade the outlets because he's a moron and doesn't realize that 2 prong adapters still fit inside 3 prong outlets. He thinks I'll need to change them again when we move out, so it's not worth the hassle. I told him "No, they don't need to be switched twice, only once"

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I definitely want to ground this router because power surges DO happen. One killed my laptop a few months ago, since then I decided I'd ground all my tech equipment.

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But now got this stupid fat hook wire that's definitely not going to fit inside the grounding hole. I have no idea what to do.

pulsar thorn
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Is it hard wired into router or can you get another cable?

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But yes 100% I agree you should always ground your stuff, and people are dumb and don’t understand basic shapes and how they fit into things

mental topaz
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Is there somebody who works with 4G/5G modems in M.2 or Mini-PCIE format?

Do you know if there's a modem that can do parallel dual SIM? So that the modem establishes two separate connections. I've seen dual SIM adapter thingamajigs, but those usually only allow one active connection

Please @ me when answering, gotta pretend I'm working

thin hull
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I mean ... really ?

peak cloak
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You put a dmz network on a vlan

pulsar thorn
thin hull
pulsar thorn
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100/20 on copper :(

thin hull
# pulsar thorn 100/20 on copper :(

Yeah ,, the morrons put in fiber in to the basement .. and then copper together with old electric wires ... about 50<100meters .. no shielding

pulsar thorn
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Haha what country you in?

thin hull
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<<<<<
That's sweden

pulsar thorn
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Oh that’s alright

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In Australia we aren’t so lucky

thin hull
pulsar thorn
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Hahaha fax

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The highest I can get is 100/40, anything higher is a $3k upgrade to direct fibre

thin hull
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offf.. that hurts

pulsar thorn
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Yeah and I already pay $100 a month for 100/20

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It’s terrible

thin hull
peak cloak
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Run new wires from basement to room

pulsar thorn
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Nah that’s isp property isn’t it?

thin hull
peak cloak
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Rip

thin hull
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jupp

hidden socket
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England's upload speeds really are sad xD

pulsar thorn
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Yeah same in Australia lol

thin hull
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And on top of that, when we asked this stupid isp why we don't have fiber all the way to the flats (like all the other isp have) the answer was ..."it's cheaper"
WTF !!!!

peak cloak
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I have 300/300 which is the lowest plan. College internet is going to suck.

peak cloak
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But like, just get proper Ethernet cabling

thin hull
peak cloak
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I only have fiber to my basement, and then I have ethernet to my PCs and devices

pulsar thorn
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Yeah I guess you could kinda run your own Ethernet so it’s at least higher quality and terminate the ends with whatever you need (presumably a phone socket so rj11)

pulsar thorn
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They ran copper from the basement of his apartment

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So you’d think it’s some kind of bodge adsl setup

peak cloak
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I don't think so

pulsar thorn
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That’s all they use here in Aus so it’s the first thing I think of lol

peak cloak
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I haven't seen dsl in like, forever

pulsar thorn
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That’s the most common thing in Australia

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Fibre to the curb, then dsl from the curb to the house

peak cloak
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Weird, could have used coax if they really wanted to save

pulsar thorn
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We do have that too

peak cloak
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Moca has higher speeds than dsl

flint matrix
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australian internet is bad unless you got FTTP or FTTC and want to pay the upgrade to run it to the house

pulsar thorn
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There’s
HFC (Hybrid Fibre Coaxial)
FTTN (Fibre to a node, then up to 1.6KM of dsl copper to your house)
FTTC (Fibre to the curb, then dsl from the curb to the house)
FTTB (Fibre to the basement, then copper to each apartment)
FTTP (Fibre gets split at the curb and run down to your premises)

flint matrix
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my current house has FTTP, and the house im building thank god has it too

pulsar thorn
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You lucky :(

flint matrix
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but the previous place i lived, best we got was 50mbit because the node was not ideally located

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and they wont do bonded

thin hull
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Anyway .. it's getting there slowly 👀

pulsar thorn
flint matrix
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im honestly surprised australia hasnt gone back to NBN fiber for everyone, but just stopping at the curb

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and dumping the last 100m cost on the consumer

thin hull
pulsar thorn
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They’re slowly moving everyone into fttp

flint matrix
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if you download some ram - it might go faster

pulsar thorn
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Suburb by suburb

upper jackal
flint matrix
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you have a UDM pro?

pulsar thorn
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Was just about to say #networking but that’s where we are 😂

flint matrix
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just create a new vlan

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if you dont know how to do that - id suggest watching some guides- lawrence has a bunch

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so does cody

pulsar thorn
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NetworkingChuck?

thin hull
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Btw ,, have torrent running and downstreaming disney .. so I think it's kinda ok anyway ?

flint matrix
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cody is mactelecomnetworks - he does a LOT of unifi

upper jackal
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i have a cople of vlans and some firewall rules blocking trafic to each other

pulsar thorn
flint matrix
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lawrence is literally lawrence systems

upper jackal
flint matrix
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you shouldnt need disney circle anyway - new update got pushed to the controller today that literally has the ability to block things based on network/vlan/device

pulsar thorn
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Pfsense is where it’s at

thin hull
upper jackal
thin hull
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I think thats what my isp use in the basement

upper jackal
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haha probaly

pulsar thorn
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All I see at school is Aruba/HP

upper jackal
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i got a class that is all about cisco. no idea what the school it self ussage though

thin hull
pulsar thorn
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Yup, cost cutting

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Exactly what nbn did

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Ended up costing more than original lol

thin hull
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What's nbn ?

pulsar thorn
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National Broadband Network

thin hull
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ahh

pulsar thorn
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Was meant to move the entire country from Adsl2+ to direct fibre

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Government changed and so did the plans and the amount of money going into the upgrades

thin hull
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I have a friend living far out at the country side
She got fiber all the way in to the room where the router is ... cost her around 2500usd
never have any problems
Another isp tho than me

pulsar thorn
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That’s roughly what it would cost me to get 15 metres of fibre laid under some grass

upper jackal
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they are curently bring fiber to where i live. cant wait for it haha. the latency will be the best upgrade we get i think

pulsar thorn
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They reckon they can’t pull it through with the copper or smth

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I get 1ms on adsl

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Pretty good if you ask me

thin hull
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Kinda ok tho

idle axle
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that is some very nice speeds

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imma just chillin with my 50Mbps

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seems terrible compared lmao

thin hull
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Umm .. well .. I got a good router and shielded cables in the flat .. so that helps a bit

idle axle
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my network attempts are pitiful

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have a mesh wifi network and then an ethernet from a node to my pc

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it works tho i guess 😂

thin hull
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At least U have internet 🙂

idle axle
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this is true

upper jackal
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i got 250/70 but the latency oh my it is at 150/500ms lot of the time

thin hull
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offf

idle axle
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that is a big ooof indeed

upper jackal
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so i am happy we have fiber soon xD

thin hull
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Yay 👍

idle axle
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where does your internet connect to?

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like how far from where you live

thin hull
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Me ?

upper jackal
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i have no idea actualy

idle axle
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well both of y ou i guess

pulsar thorn
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I feel extremely violated right now

idle axle
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mines 200 miles and i get like 17ms

upper jackal
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i sometimes get 20 but not oftent. so i think there cables or something are just bad

idle axle
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probably

thin hull
idle axle
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issue as everything moves to fibre optic if youre stuck on old broadband can feel crap

idle axle
thin hull
idle axle
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ye seems to be everyone i know who has good internet only has internet like 50% of the time full stop

thin hull
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Numbers is one thing .. how it actually works is another thing.....

thin hull
idle axle
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ye i'd talke that ^^

thin hull
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Did a test now with all the crap I have downstream 🤔

peak cloak
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doesn't even need to be a vlan

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vlans are just a way to carry many networks over one pysical link

peak cloak
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well not better upload

thin hull
peak cloak
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that's not too bad

thin hull
flint matrix
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sad internets in sydney

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what the... you cant link websites?

thin hull
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Big country tho
hard and costly to cover

flint matrix
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the censor bot is draconian

thin hull
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Not to bad ... I think ?

flint matrix
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oh thast on my wifi through like 3 walls

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its normally 950/48 when hardwired in

faint depot
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Someone here suggested that I get the asus rt-ax86u router, and I did, but I don't see an option for IPoE, only PPPoE. I live in Japan, did I just throw away my money? >.<

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I can't seem to connect at all

flat wagon
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what's a good rack mountable NAS for 4K media streaming. looking to upgrade.

my max budget is $3K USD with a minimal of 8 bays.

jade briar
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The wiki page for IPoE is light

thin hull
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Google is a cool tool 😎

peak cloak
proud basin
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update on my problem from yesterday:
they are blocking the traffic
today i can't ping anywhere outside 192.168.5.0/24, byt i could yesterday
any ideas how to bypass it without access to the router?

peak cloak
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kinda can't

steep igloo
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is this a place i can ask about ethernet cable? if it is, is a 5e?

steep igloo
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and if a 5e cable was good

peak cloak
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uhh, it's a cable

low pond
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Exactly, define good

peak cloak
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it's not good/bad, it depends on what you want

low pond
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Yep

steep igloo
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I have a 230 mbps wi-fi, should i keep my 5e or get something better?

peak cloak
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cat5e is an older standard, still usable, still can do gigabit

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hell it can technically do 10gig technically on short runs

steep igloo
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i’ll take that as a keep it

peak cloak
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10gig over copper sucks anyway

rocky badge
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@clear igloo eyes_heart eyes_heart the pots intercom

low pond
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prem POTS

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i love premPOTS

thick minnow
rocky badge
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lol

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They only gave us 8 Cat6 runs in the tech booth

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So we're gonna run our own completely separated cat6 for our network

thick minnow
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my whole damn house is either cat6 or cat5e now all running through the attic

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made things suuuuuper easy

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i even repurposed the old att box outside that ran pots with uv cat5e to run an AP into my bedroom

rocky badge
thick minnow
rocky badge
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We're probably gonna be running at least 12 new Cat6

thick minnow
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this is what i did with it

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sorry had to find a picture

rocky badge
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nice

thick minnow
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then for my office

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i replaced the ceiling light with one that isnt terrible, but its not that bad

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my wife took the downstairs office with french doors, so i got a mancave in one of the upstairs bedrooms

rocky badge
thick minnow
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fiber is something i havent worked with yet, too many tools to buy, wife wont let me 😦

rocky badge
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So I had fiber to the PC

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I could have fiber all the way to the PC, except from my ONT to my switch it's CAT6

rocky badge
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Then I added 10 gig to my server

thick minnow
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Yeah I havent popped 10g in yet, really havent had the need

rocky badge
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Then we got fiber internet

peak cloak
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just need sfp output

hardy sandal
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PresentMonkey, is it possible to reset cisco switch to factory defaulft without console cable ?

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Cause i get switch for free and when i connect it to network , network die

hardy sandal
rocky badge
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no, this is our AV rack @ school theatre. Just the networking portion of it

hardy sandal
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Old switch ...

rocky badge
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Works just fine

hardy sandal
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Ik

rocky badge
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Gigabit PoE+ across all 48 ports

peak cloak
hardy sandal
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@rocky badge

rocky badge
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lol

hardy sandal
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I have this in my rooom

peak cloak
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must be loud af

rocky badge
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I don't keep any of my homelab stuff in my room

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it's all in the basement/closets

peak cloak
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same

hardy sandal
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Yeah, when i sleep i turn off this

rocky badge
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Then again the "loudest" thing in my homelab is the r620 and dl360pg8

hardy sandal
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I have 2 switches cause 1 switch don't have psus , cause psu just exploded and died

rocky badge
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Which aren't very loud

hardy sandal
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Same

rocky badge
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All of my networking is silent/quiet

hardy sandal
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Blob, did u see my ups?

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EMC 2200W

pulsar thorn
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I wish I had a network that could even attempt at competing with @rocky badge lol

rocky badge
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lol

peak cloak
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prob will be moving for college next year, kinda stopped buying stuff now

rocky badge
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I've spent $2.4k on it so far

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Not that bad tbh

hardy sandal
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I can get cisco 6500 series for free bruh

rocky badge
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Could be worse

pulsar thorn
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:(

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The jealousy that flooded through me just then is stupid

rocky badge
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I haven't touched a lot of it in a while

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Which is nice

hardy sandal
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Bruh , u have big house or ?

rocky badge
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nah, only 1.8k sqft

hardy sandal
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And u spent 2.4k on network

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Bruh

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I spent money only for servers,switches,patch panels.

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I can get all stuff for free

rocky badge
peak cloak
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I got a lot for free as well

rocky badge
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We have an AP in the garage for the car 🤪 🤪

peak cloak
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my "servers" and switch I got for free

rocky badge
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outdoor AP for porch/backyard

peak cloak
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really only spent money on structural cabling, rack, and router

rocky badge
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You can actually see the fiber in the background LOL

peak cloak
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got a lot of cables for free as well

hardy sandal
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I get cables for free in school

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I hope i can get cisco nexus

rocky badge
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but my network isn't the most expensive hobby shrugch lol

hardy sandal
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My expensive hobby is HAM and Airsoft

peak cloak
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FPV drones are pretty expensive too

hardy sandal
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And electronic

peak cloak
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just got a RTF drone kit last last month

hardy sandal
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Nice

peak cloak
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already broke some stuff

rocky badge
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I want to spend way too much money on RF shit

peak cloak
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lost GPS module, then found it

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That I have zero use for at home

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video antennae is broken, but still works. and I lost one of the receiver antennaes after it broke

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and video broadcasting stuff

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I spend money on military stuff and military radio stations and receivers

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I also have zero use for that at home, but I want to spend money on that

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radio freq

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yeah but what specifically?

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just radios?

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Wireless microphone shit lollll

hardy sandal
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I have "rare" racal radio stations

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UHF stuff

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Blob do u have rtl sdr?

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no

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Oh

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This is so "OP" usb for RF

peak cloak
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I've wanted a radio to be able to listen to aircraft coms

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SDR could prob do that cheaply?

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baby shark doo doo doo

hardy sandal
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I needed a temporary way to mount this fin so I just grabbed a 2x4 from the workshop lolll

hardy sandal
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But if aicraft coms have crypto for their frequencys u can't listening their coms , monkey

peak cloak
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yeah ik, it's not

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I'm an avgeek myself

hardy sandal
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Im making imsi catcher

peak cloak
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even ads-b isn't encrypted

hardy sandal
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By crazy danish hacker

peak cloak
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but that basically just transmits aircraft position

hardy sandal
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So with rtl sdr and gsm 16TB tables u can encrypt gsm calls and messages

peak cloak
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huh

hardy sandal
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Just receiving not TRX

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TRX is riskit

peak cloak
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SDRs can transmit though right?

hardy sandal
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Nope only receive

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For transmit u need to buy beter sdr

peak cloak
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ah

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makes sense

hardy sandal
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With rtl sdr and russian code u can listening not encrypted tetra radio

peak cloak
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but 30 bucks is cheap so not complaining

hardy sandal
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buy it

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I was thinking about DF-direction finding receiver

peak cloak
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what antennae?

hardy sandal
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?

peak cloak
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ik very little about rf

peak cloak
hardy sandal
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Yes

peak cloak
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does the antenna depend on the range receiving?

hardy sandal
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U need 500khz-1.75ghz antenna for rtl sdr

peak cloak
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ah ok, so there are antennas with a wide freq range

hardy sandal
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Yeah

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I have ah2000 antenna for icom receiver

south blade
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Power knocked out last night, boot up to see network device "missing" (onboard )

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Borrowed a USB WiFi adapter to see if it updates whatever it needs to get it running again

atomic ibex
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how would i set up a direct connection to my unraid NAS, when using a 10G card on both sides?

thick minnow
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Anybody have a good suggestion for a decent wifi 6 card for desktop anywhere between $25-35 usd?

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This is video

waxen scroll
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My view

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lmao is that a built in phone charger?

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it just holds the phone, it doesn't charge

waxen scroll
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still... nice

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it's too small for a iphone 12 pro

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aka a normal sized phone today

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I guess audition is going to be recording sound for like 82 hours @waxen scroll

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because I forgot to stop the recording and I can't remote into the PC

waxen scroll
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is this still high school? what kind of time commitment do you have to do to participate in that?

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lol

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I did this stuff outside of school and the time commitment was 12hr/weekend but only on weekends you're scheduled

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99% of this was during school hours ¯_(ツ)_/¯

waxen scroll
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oh? being a tech is a class?

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yes

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must be nice

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I only have one real class this year anyways

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So my teacher don't care what I do

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I'm in his class for like 3/4ths of the day

waxen scroll
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I only did computer electives myself... Web dev, CAD, the usual suspects

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Hopefully we'll get our Mac tomorrow or Monday

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Then all of the monitor arms, stage box, cabling next week

peak cloak
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HS

peak cloak
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Your still in HS?

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Yes

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Damn

waxen scroll
peak cloak
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Same

peak cloak
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close

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@waxen scroll Tonight was our veteran's day perf. One of the photographers there was using the fucking flash

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There's plenty of lighting on the stage, you don't need it

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My phone takes good enough photos without a flash

peak cloak
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I've never liked using flash when taking photos

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Unnatural light

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Use it at the appropriate time

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This was not an appropriate time

peak cloak
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When needed sure, but most of the time, not needed

waxen scroll
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i have flash turned off on my phone. i only turn it on if I think what I see on screen sucks

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also dat night sight mode

peak cloak
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@rocky badge your a senior?

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Same

waxen scroll
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is that from RDP? 🤮

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Yeah lol

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yeah my coworker keeps telling me to put my files on it and im like NO

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I do, eventually, but nothing I am editing

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@waxen scroll teacher yelled at a sophomore tonight

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because they had their drink on the sound desk table lol

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"There's over $30k of stuff on this desk, please don't fuck it up"

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non residential use/commercial use only

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fucking BET

peak cloak
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idfk, for $5k I better be able to do what I please

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@waxen scroll

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We're also permanently running some CAT6 so we can avoid this OMEGALUL

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in raceways I assume?

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can't imagine doing it in brick

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conduit

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We have loads of conduit

peak cloak
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yeah, that's what I meant

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those systems with those boxes, etc.

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Even to the catwalk (in the background)

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We're only using like 2 of those 4 conduits

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ah, like that

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From FOH to booth, we have like 6 conduit

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2 fat ones, 4 smaller ones

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oh more than 6. its like 10 lollll

waxen scroll
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into a water heater too

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I think it is too lol

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oh, i thought you put cables in it

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Wait, are you talking about the thing in focus

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the conduits I was talking about are in the back of the photo

faint depot
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So I didn't know this, but my wife actually pays a monthly rental fee for our modem. o.O
I'd like to... stop paying for the rental. The modem is an NTT GE-ODU. It looks like this:

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But, my ISP says we could get up to gigabyte speeds, I feel like this modem won't allow that.

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I'm not sure if I'd run into compatibility issues if I try to replace it, and if I did, I'm not sure what I'd replace it with.

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Any suggestions on what to do, or what replacement to buy?

dry ferry
# faint depot But, my ISP says we could get up to gigabyte speeds, I feel like this modem won'...

ISP modems have a reputation of being buggy, and having poor WiFi range and performance. Looking at the manual, it looks like this guy takes in fibre internet. If it were me I'd do what LTT did in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCz1DeM_7aM and set the modem into bridge mode and feed your Internet into a third party router, as I'm not aware of any consumer routers that are able of taking that in on their own.

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Oh, yeah I have a router already, but the modem sucks.

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I thought I could replace it, primarily to stop the rental fees.

peak cloak
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Since it says ONU

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With fiber it's very tricky

peak cloak
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well it depends here, usually for DOCISS service, there is an additional modem rental fee

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but for fiber, you can't use your own equipment offically, so it's not it's own seperate cost

peak cloak
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a router can't do that

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ISP provided eqipment is usually a modem/wireless router all in one

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you can very well just have a normal modem, and no need for weird bridge mode things

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which is what I had

faint depot
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Hmm, that's very confusing. I guess I've never really looked into it. :S

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So, I should just continue paying the rental fee?

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At least you don’t have one of spectrum’s new routers

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They have to be managed on the spectrum app and will not function unless they are properly added to the account

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But at least it’s a Wifi 6 with 4x4 antennas for both bands

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No way to login from 192.168.1.1

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And set it up that way, spectrum has to do it

obtuse cypress
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That sounds terrible

peak cloak
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could easily buy a modem and router? or are they stupid and mac address lock it

faint depot
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Hmm, I'm going to keep trying to replace this modem. I don't like the actual modem itself. Feels like a cheap 40 dollar device, and I'm sure we're paying 12 or so dollars per month to rent it.

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I'll call my ISP and tell them I want to replace it. >.<

cinder canopy
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Do y’all know a way to login to the Askey SAX1V1K?

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You can’t do much on the spectrum app

peak cloak
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can't find anything

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best bet would be to get your own modem and router

peak cloak
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need to use spectrem app bs

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Yeah

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But 192.168.1.1/warehouse gets you to a sign in page

cinder canopy
peak cloak
cinder canopy
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since on the back it only shows ethernet

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I don't think Spectrum has a combo unit

cinder canopy
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so just get your own router

cinder canopy
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Their modem now is a 2.5Gbps port too

cinder canopy
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eh, imo I could care less if it's wifi 6 if I can't do anything with it except basic stuff

cinder canopy
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And you get 550 down on their equipment which you can’t get on your own(btw I only pay for 400)

peak cloak
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I mean how do you know?

cinder canopy
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if you want to experiment, try plugging in the wan port from modem directly into pc

peak cloak
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also was that wifi?

cinder canopy
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Also when one of support agents messes something up when adding the equipment to the account they don’t blame me

cinder canopy
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You basically got 400 down even

peak cloak
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I doubt they would have different qos rules for spectrum equipment vs your own

peak cloak
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for ISPs to prevent you from using your own equipment

peak cloak
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The only time ISPs may prevent you from using your own equipment is if it doesn't work at all

paper gazelle
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How many switches does this rack have? (Important)

peak cloak
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5 on the picture basically right?

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Thx

peak cloak
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Section 629 of the Act, as implemented by Section 76.1201 of the Rules, prohibits
MVPDs from “prevent[ing] the connection or use of navigation devices” on their network. It provides an
exception from this prohibition only “where electronic or physical harm would be caused by the
attachment or operation” of a navigation device, or when the device could be, or is intended or designed
to be, used for “the unauthorized receipt of service.”1
“Navigation devices” include cable modems, which
are used to access “other services” (namely, broadband Internet access)

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cuz would that apply to lets say verizon fios? would they be required to provide information for you to be able to use your own gpon module

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no

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GPON isn't like DOCSIS

peak cloak
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yeah ik

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it's complicated

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DOCSIS is a common standard that if the modem and ISP implement it correctly, all DOCSIS modems work on a DOCSIS network

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ISPs cannot claim that 3rd party equipment don't work on their DOCSIS network

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However with GPON, they can

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because of proprietary vendor extensions/config

peak cloak
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yeah, it sucks

clear igloo
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And wrong

peak cloak
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cat 5e can do gigabit

clear igloo
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Yup ^

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My ISP offers a ZyXEL router for $5/mo but it's 100% optional

clear igloo
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100m

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verizon fios has an option to use theirs but it's optional

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5e does gigabit as far as 6 does

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both are 100m

clear igloo
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Cat rating doesn't increase distance

peak cloak
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no, not to spec

clear igloo
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Not per spec it can't, it's luck of the draw beyond that

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yup ^

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nope

clear igloo
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4.5m per the IEEE spec but some can do 20m on high quality cables I'm reading

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@rocky badge Just buy the entire store 😛

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no

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contracts as in?

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clear igloo
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AT&T fiber doesn't afaik

peak cloak
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oh yeah verizon fios does

clear igloo
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This house doesn't have conduit so it was already a pita

clear igloo
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😦

peak cloak
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I've never seen a house with conduit

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When my parents renovate a house or build new, I'm making them put in conduit

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if my mom inherits my grandmother's house, she has a shed that we can add a mini split, insulation, security, and a subpanel to...boom server room. @clear igloo

clear igloo
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That's sick

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put pipe in the ground to run a mpo

clear igloo
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MPO breakouts ftw

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12 or 24 strand?

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it also pains me to see YouTubers run multiple fiber somewhere instead of MPO

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LTT

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Any smart networking people mind helping me with homework?
The question is: You go to visit your grandmother and WiFi is buzzing, you are looking at the logs of the WiFi router. Grandma doesn't use the internet very much and you see in the log that a device is constantly going to http: //asv.transsion [.] .Com. Very strange. What's up? What device is going there?

peak cloak
paper gazelle
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sorry I am googling in my native language and took some time to translate the question

peak cloak
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oh, well

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thx anyways

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they're hitting me up to renew my maintenance

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idk

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yeah but you put numbers on it

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yeah, to count the number of switches in the pic for them

fading oar
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UM

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i changed the hostname of my server because i reinstalled ubuntu and uh

faint depot
peak cloak
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same ip, and different ssh fingerprint will bring that up

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how do i fix it

peak cloak
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go to /home/kaiac/.ssh/known_hosts

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find the line with the host

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delete said line, save it

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try again

faint depot
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Guess it's not a huge thing in Japan.

peak cloak
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Don't need to take anything out, just show it connected

viral canopy
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could anyone maybe diagnose my problem? i built a pc about 2 weeks ago now and had no problems in terms of internet connectivitiy to games on my old pc. When I try to play gaes itll make me dc midway into the match saying i lost onnectivity to the host server ik it isnt the game bc it happens w almost every game i play valorant,apex,wz,coldwar,vanguard i check the server status of the said game and theres no problem. It doesnt happen everytime but it occurs quite often.

faint depot
peak cloak
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One sec, on it.

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I can unplug it a little later and show the connector, but I've got to go for the time being.

peak cloak
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I've got a very similar thing as well

faint depot
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Hmm... that's no good. I'll still contact the isp. They'll probably make it difficult for me, but it's worth a try.

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They dont open until Monday.

fading oar
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heya
so i managed to successfully login to my redis database with a gui on another computer, how do i create something like a spredsheet.
p.s. i only need a single table of information, its nothing special

peak cloak
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I've really only worked with redis keys

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redis is really meant for cache, not permanent storage

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I used it as part of a bot which would retrive info from an API, but the API had a rate limit, so I would cache all the requests

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so I would have a function to get API paths, which would check if it's cached, and return if cached, or if not, would send out a HTTP request

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ah

peak cloak
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you can sync a redis storage to a permament database ofc

fading oar
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if anything you have a database

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then connect to the database with a client, which may have a gui

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its apart of a school assesment, the client has to have a gui but the server doesnt

peak cloak
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can connect to MySQL/MariaDB, Adabas D, MS Access and PostgreSQL

fading oar
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ohhh yessss

peak cloak
fading oar
peak cloak
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ok

peak cloak
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ah

peak cloak
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basically everything is stored in ram

fading oar
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i searched opensource database and clicked the second result XD

peak cloak
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made by mysql devs, and it's basically a fork of MySQL

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and fully open-source

fading oar
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the display for my ubuntu server isnt the right size im so glad ssh exists

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thanks for helping ^-^

peak cloak
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so ive got a problem where my lan connection isnt working, ive tried running windows troubleshoot thing and it said "ethernet doesnt have a valid ip configuration / not fixed"

tall pagoda
austere relic
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FBI got hacked?

low pond
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that's interesting

serene sparrow
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Hello

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I need wifi recommendation

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What wifi is the best wifi

low pond
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define wifi, router? Spec? ISP?

serene sparrow
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Is tplink ax 1500 or ac1200 ok?

clear igloo
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AX has theoretically faster performance but unless you've got WiFi 6 (AX) clients it won't really give you any benefit

serene sparrow
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The rest are wifi 5

clear igloo
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Then whatever is cheaper would be fine in your case

serene sparrow
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I'm wondering how it'll handle 20 devices tho

clear igloo
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If they're the same price go with the AX just for better longevity with new stuff

hot hawk
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I'm trying to set up a layer 2 bridge with zerotier on openwrt
This is the guide I'm following

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Router is able to connect but cant access my local network when I'm connected

peak cloak
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sounds like routing issue

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you added routes right in zerotier?

hot hawk
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Like dis?

hot hawk
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current interfaces

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ok im now able to access the router outside my network using zero tier

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autho cant access any other devices

distant wedge
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Y'all - Who here has spliced fiber. I have possibly a few questions

peak cloak
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never done it, all ik is that there are 2 ways, and it's just better to buy premade cables

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also don't ask to ask, just ask

distant wedge
primal ice
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that

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or mechanical splicing

distant wedge
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In any case - I need to know the significance of removing a certain length of cladding / coating while prepping the cable, as well as while cleaving the cable before it's fused / mechanically spliced

peak cloak
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@waxen scroll @clear igloo or @hollow marlin prob know

distant wedge
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Already asked Lurick, he's got no clue, but perhaps the other two know

peak cloak
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there was someone in r/homelab who worked as a ISP tech, but I think he left

waxen scroll
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Nope. I buy pre terminated

distant wedge
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Yeah, this would be the ISP tech kind of question lol

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Well, I was hoping to get a general idea, but in any case, that's fine

waxen scroll
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I hear the process is quite difficult unless you have experience

distant wedge
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I've watched a few videos, it seems dressing the splice tray is more difficult than actually splicing

ornate jungle
# distant wedge In any case - I need to know the significance of removing a certain length of cl...

One of the most comprehensive videos covering Fiber splicing I've seen yet. It covers both Fusion and Mechanical splicing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xba2MThR9Ls

Part of UTEL's Knowledge Base series of videos about fiber optics, this guide provides a thorough introduction to fusion and mechanical splicing as well as a demonstration of fusion splicing.

For downloadable content, please visit the UTEL website - http://www.utel.co.uk/training-videos.php

Further videos mentioned in this clip to follow in Ap...

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ornate jungle
hollow marlin
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Okay, so I guess I was on the right track. I just needed that confirmation

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Thanks you two

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I actually got hired as a field service tech for the local ISP, but I want to be informed on practices and how things are done before I go in just so I have the gist of it

hollow marlin
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If you are getting into splicing. Most don't tell you but do not get a sliver. AKA, don't touch the end of a spliced fiber. Other than that it's pretty straightforward

distant wedge
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Lol yeah I remember reading about that. I will definitely use my due diligence

waxen scroll
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@hollow marlin guess what

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I have a switch that is not forwarding packets FIFO on just one port of a big port channel

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Luricks company makes the best bugs

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It sends some packets out of order

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We haven't told TAC yet

hollow marlin
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Yeah let TAC have fun fixing that. How bad is it? Or what about changing the hash config and see if anything changes?

ornate jungle
# distant wedge I actually got hired as a field service tech for the local ISP, but I want to be...

This should be part of your training package. If there is no training or at least a quality check to ensure applicants know how to do the job, I'm very concerned for customers of this ISP. I have seen some outage tickets where really dodgy Fiber Backbone splices are performed due to the Fiber Splice contractor not knowing what they're doing, resulting in repeated breakages at the same location over and over again.

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Congrats on the job though; I've always wondered what field work actually entails in the Telecom industry.

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It's bad

distant wedge
# ornate jungle This should be part of your training package. If there is no training _or at lea...

Oh I'm sure it'll be part of the training package, I just like to learn a little bit before I go in so I understand what I'm doing. I find that some trainers don't know how to rescue the people they're training. My hope is that I'm able to use what I've learned from both youtube videos, as well as in class training to support myself when I go out into the field. I've done field work in other jobs, and I always try to do things the way I'd want them to be done if I were the one signing up for the service.

waxen scroll
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Causing performance issues for some servers and not others

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Business units are mad

distant wedge
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However, I have heard a lot of horror stories about my ISP screwing up their own splice trays because they don't actually deal with the splice trays, they subcon people to do splices from the CO to the neighbourhood, and those are often mismatched

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So CO to neighbourhood is outsourced, but neighbourhood to house is done by the ISP, and sometimes it just doesn't work. I'm just like.... why

primal ice
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bean counters its cheaper to contract the work out then have a person on the payroll doing nothing 40% of the time.

ornate jungle
waxen scroll
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@hollow marlin we have expensive tac

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They'll have to build the whole thing in lab

plucky delta
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Ppl active at this hour?

peak cloak
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it's prime time EST

plucky delta
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Fair nuff

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I'm feeling a little stumped and unprepared. I have a old server I'm thinking of repurposing in to a Nas but i start to remember how little I've actually interacted with servers compared to PCs and laptops

distant wedge
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Every day's a new day to learn

peak cloak
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cuz how old is it, at a certain point, it's just old as it'll be power hungry, hot, and loud

plucky delta
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An old dell poweredge t110 ll

peak cloak
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hmm that's a bit old

plucky delta
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Was going to make it a truenas machine i could hook up in some corner with just power and Ethernet

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Since i payed such little money for the machine and got a great deal on drives, thought it made most sense with truenas

toxic chasm
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Is there somebody that could help me with port forwarding on a MicroTik router running RouterOS?

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Just trying to get plex to work over the internet and having issues

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Weather I try to UPnP it or make a forwarded port I cant get it.

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Plex will say it works for a second or two, then will stop working

peak cloak
toxic chasm
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I have gone to Firewall -> NAT and created a dstnat rule, but plex is still not working

peak cloak
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how are you testing it

toxic chasm
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Plex has a built-in utility

peak cloak
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hmm

toxic chasm
toxic chasm
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These are the sections the guide told me to configure

peak cloak
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yeah seems correct

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just it's not enabled?

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or did you disable it for now?

toxic chasm
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I had disabled it a moment ago

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Bringing it back up and trying plex again I get nothing.

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Plex is running on a docker on unraid

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Is it possible to hit up the command line and check if the port is working or something?

peak cloak
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you have a public IP right?

toxic chasm
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Yeah

peak cloak
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@toxic chasm in all examples I see for dnat I see they add dst-address

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with that being the public IP

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give that a try?

toxic chasm
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Nope. Plex is still doing the thing where when I check it says it works for 1/2 a second, then reverts to saying it does not work

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got it

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Changed in interface to all ethernet and in interface list to WAN

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No, it died again

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WTF? why will it say it works for a few seconds, then die

peak cloak
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weird

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you could try a tcpdump on that port on the tik and see what packets are going through

toxic chasm
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Is there a way to like ping it on that port to see if its a networking thing or a software thing?

peak cloak
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uhh, try the test, but then run tcpdump on tik to see the traffic

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tcpdump port 32400

toxic chasm
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Cant. These are the only commands I have

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Unless I need to do something else first

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Or are we talking on the unraid box?

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nothing there eitherr

toxic chasm
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All im seeing is local traffic between my computer and the plex web interface

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There is no NAT configured on the bridge, could that be an issue?

peak cloak
peak cloak
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and it depends on config

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if the ports are in a bridge you want to use the bridge interface to reference those ports

toxic chasm
toxic chasm
peak cloak
toxic chasm
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Ok

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I can access the internet

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so I guess so

peak cloak
toxic chasm
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Oh, yeah. I see it

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Guessing this guy right here?

peak cloak
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yeah masquarade

toxic chasm
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Was still looking at the bridge, that is back in IP -> Firewall -> nat

peak cloak
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trying to get the config to be like the example

toxic chasm
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That is In. Interface List

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not in. interface

peak cloak
toxic chasm
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k

peak cloak
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this is what the example shows /ip firewall nat add chain=dstnat action=dst-nat dst-address=172.16.16.1 dst-port=22 to-addresses=10.0.0.3 protocol=tcp

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with the internet being reprented by 172.16.x.x

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and 10.x.x.x internal

toxic chasm
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That seems to be what I have

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I did find this

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XX.XXX.XX.XX is public IP

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I think that is the check to make sure its online

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Line headers are

TIME INTERFACE SRC-ADDRESS DST-ADDRESS IP-PROTOCOL SIZE CPU FP

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Interesting. In the Plex app I can now load the menus and navigate my libraries over LTE (eg not on my network) but I cant stream shows. Maybe it needs another port?

peak cloak
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No clue, never used plex

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I use jellyfin myself

hot hawk
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I have a zero tier set up on my openwrt router (192.168.0.2)
it can connect to my zerotier network and clients can access the openwrt router web gui when connected to the network

but I cant access any other devices on the network that the openwrt router is connected to, any help?

sick glade
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Good morning everyone, in my company due to Covid, we had to invest in streaming station to do online demonstrations of our equipments, we have 5 and I hope soon 10 identical computers. I am look for a simple network management software in order to push updates such as windows update, gpu drivers, obs and so on. I saw once an add on a ltt video for that, but I can’t find it anymore. Anyone got an idea ? Thank you

ornate jungle
fading oar
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yo
im trying to connect to MariaDB with a libre-base front end on a different computer on the same lan, can anyone help?

peak cloak
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Here

bitter shell
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Hey, Idk why my Laptop cannot see my desktop in network but my desktop can see my laptop in network and access files.

bitter shell
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i have enabled the network discovery in both laptop and PC though

primal ice
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is one linux and one windows?

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south blade
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4G/5G home internet?

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Don't know if I screwed myself for delaying signing up for Starlink or it actually now got pushed to early to mid 2022 (was saying late 2021 on the sign up page before). :/

peak cloak
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starlink is going into v2 stage now or less beta basically

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there was a bit of a delay with the new sats

south blade
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Shet, moving outside the city in a few more weeks, need internet. 🥴

peak cloak
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What are the options?

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Only cellular and sat?

south blade
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Yeah, BroadbandNow shows my current ISP available at the new address, but I signed up and they called and said no.

peak cloak
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Could maybe ask how much it would be to get a cable down to your location, if possible

south blade
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If the cable is where I think it is...I'm like 1,900 feet away.

bitter shell
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i sus windows 11 because, when both was win 10 i was able to access files and share printers, when i moved 1 pc to windows 11 printer cannot be accessed via network but files does and when i upgrade both to win 11, one PC is not showing in network

primal ice
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make sure both are set to private networks. guessing one might be on public. is the only thing I can think of.

south blade
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Are links not allowed or was the service I was trying to ask about censored for a reason?

primal ice
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the bot is pretty spastic on what it lets through.

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clear igloo
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Remember, look directly into the lit single mode fiber 😛

waxen scroll
rich basalt
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searching for recommendations for a POE 5+ port switch, that can survive the high temps of a attic in the summer, roughly 130 degrees F during the hottest days