networking

[unborn skiff]

i open it and it instantly close

[peak cloak]

ok so on the folder it's in shift right click and click open in powershell

[peak cloak]

yes

it's a command line app

[unborn skiff]

why does it do that

[unborn skiff]

how do i run speedtest

[peak cloak]

because you need to run it like this

that's to run the server

-s

starts the server

[peak cloak]

@soft sky after you do that do iperf3 -s to start the server on one computer

then get the local ip of that computer

[soft sky]

wait I'm stuck

It doesn't say 'open with'

[peak cloak]

you need to shift right click on the folder

not the binary itself

or the empty space below the binary

either or works

then open in powershell

[soft sky]

Ohh there we go

It's all blue

[peak cloak]

yeah

powershell is like that

so do

./iperf3 -s

I think you need the ./ to tell powershell the binary is in the current folder

[soft sky]

ok it did something

wait

it looks like an error

[peak cloak]

screenshot

[peak cloak]

oh

do .\iperf3 -s

I forgot this is windows

windows is weird

[soft sky]

now it showed a big thing

like very big

[peak cloak]

press CTRL + C to stop the current process

[peak cloak]

show

[soft sky]

I closed it already

[peak cloak]

oh

try again

[soft sky]

what's up next?

[peak cloak]

did you do the -s at the end

I forgot about that

that's the help page

[unborn skiff]

im on windows

not linux

[peak cloak]

do .\iperf3 -s

[unborn skiff]

pls i was afk

[peak cloak]

by just running it with no options the help page shows up

[unborn skiff]

/how to run iperf

[peak cloak]

look up

[soft sky]

Now it says Server listening on 5201

[peak cloak]

good

if any firewall thing came up just click accept

now go to the other computer

[soft sky]

good

[peak cloak]

well no

[unborn skiff]

u teachin him but u aint gonna teach me

[peak cloak]

first

get the ip

[unborn skiff]

fuck u

[soft sky]

where do I get the ip

[peak cloak]

you can literally follow along lol

[peak cloak]

do ipconfig /all

[soft sky]

and which one is it?

[peak cloak]

look under the ethernet interface

[peak cloak]

usually the interface with the most stuff

[soft sky]

Yeah I see some things

[peak cloak]

you can screenshot in dm if you don't want to show here

it's the local ip so it shouldn't matter

[peak cloak]

now

@soft sky

on the other computer

do the same thing with powershell

[unborn skiff]

@peak cloak

[peak cloak]

but run .\iperf3 -c 192.168.0.7

[peak cloak]

your local ip is 192.168.116.48

[unborn skiff]

yep

[unborn skiff]

so what shd i do

[peak cloak]

on that computer run iperf3 -s to start the server

[unborn skiff]

bruh it is not recognising

[lament night]

when do fups usually reset? its 12 30 am on the first of june why hasnt it happend yet

[soft sky]

Hi, with my brand new Ethernet set up I get 920 Mb/s on one way and 720Mb/s on the other. Is that normal?

[primal ice]

run it a few times both ways then average out the runs - one system might be doing background stuff - like checking for updates when you run it.

[cedar igloo]

Is anybody familiar with AWS and can try to explain the pricing and configuration around a VPC with a NAT Instance? I've heard it is considerately cheaper than a NAT gateway but am not too sure what it is exactly (such as what services are needed, and the cost of each). My main concern around AWS/cloud computing is forgetting something is running one day and having a huge bill at the end of the month

[ashen dragon]

Is anyone familiar with SDVoE?

[mighty wind]

Yep

[ashen dragon]

I was just curious if it could also act as a KVM over IP

I assume since it relies on 10G Ethernet, that you would not be able to access anything remotely?

[mighty wind]

You could use it for the transport of the video and audio but there is no direct implementation for peripherals that would require some other protocol.

[ashen dragon]

I think I saw a diagram somewhere that had a KB and Mouse plugged into a sdvoe device.

[mighty wind]

you may be able to find some end points that also have some sort of USB pass through. Extron has done that with their proprietary stuff.

Looks like Christie has that functionality

[ashen dragon]

but even the audio and video, how would you access that remotely? It would have to be compressed quite a lot, right? Would it require a KVM over IP to be connected to a SDVoE device?

[mighty wind]

SDVoE is not really a WAN remote access tool. With SDVoe you still need hardware endpoints, its not like the Newtek NDI which is all software based running off of the nvidia drivers.

[ashen dragon]

so I could have a SDVoE system with several computers, tv's, monitors, etc connected, and just connect a kvm over IP like any other monitor on the SDVoE system, and route any source on the SDVoE network to the kvm over IP, and then I could access it remotely

essentially the kvm over ip would just be a "display" on the matrix, enabling remote access?

[mighty wind]

Yes and you could likely find SDVoE endpoints that could stand in for a KVM device so long as they have the USB extension and built in input switching

It looks like there are a few that have built in KVM features

[ashen dragon]

I have no idea what any of this would cost though. I tried to research it but could never find places to buy the products, only a list of partners... like it's only meant for corporate integration or something

[mighty wind]

yeah I could probably get pricing since im an integrator. Im guessing since this is targeted to replace stuff like Extron it would have to be price competitive. Since its relatively new it may be about the same as a Vertiv or Aten KVM system

[ashen dragon]

mostly I'm just wanting this cause I'm a tech nerd. And I eventually want to outfit my home with smart home devices from Control4 etc, but it would be great to be able to switch any source to any display in the house, and also be able to access everything remotely as well, including pc's

[mighty wind]

To give a frame of reference this stuff is usually $1000 a piece

[ashen dragon]

yeah, that's a bit steep if we're talking per node, when you have 20 nodes

[mighty wind]

yeah Strictly KVM will be cheaper and more abundant second hand

Im seeing old Vertiv gear on ebay for about 100-200

[ashen dragon]

but it wouldn't act as a matrix either though

[mighty wind]

No the big IP KVM stuff has that built in

I put in a 12 node system with two user endpoints. You just hit a key combo and select what pc or server you want

depending on the version you will need a controller that handles all that

[ashen dragon]

trying to imagine the limitations of a KVM like that vs SDVoE

other than maybe I would have to run HDMI through the house instead of ethernet

but you said IP KVM

[rocky badge]

just add power?

[mighty wind]

SDVoE would probably be better if you want to game on it otherwise purpose build KVM will be fine

[rocky badge]

Although you'd need a control plane like C4 or Crestron for JAP

[ashen dragon]

my imagination needs help, not envisioning how all of this would connect up and work

[rocky badge]

What content are you going to be pushing over the matrix?

[ashen dragon]

what do you mean big IP kvm, is that the company? Big IP? I think we use them for a load balancer at work.

[rocky badge]

big I guess as in many inputs/outputs

not F5 big ip

[mighty wind]

IP KVM wise I have only done large Vertiv Avocent stuff since thats what the big clients liked. It had a bunch of transmitter nodes that connected to rack PC's render stations and Servers. all of them just connected to the network switches. Then there are receivers that put that back into a usable format. The Controller is just a management system to store things like credentials and handle handshakes between stuff but all the audio, video, and usb was just over the network.

Its the same principal as SDVoE just using a different protocol.

[ashen dragon]

content, everything a PC or game console or tv tuner box can dish out... I do have an LG OLED that does 4k120 over hdmi 2.1, but even SDVoE can't handle that, so I will be fine with connecting that monitor directly to my main PC, but everything else should be probably standard 4k60 hdr if possible, but I might be okay with 1080p60 if it means it's actually feasible

[mighty wind]

Some of that may require HDCP which can add cost finding one that supports it. Honestly unless everything is in different rooms a traditional HDMI switch/receiver would be better. For the stuff in other rooms HDBaseT may be a more economical solution.

[river badge]

My ISP in Switzerland now offers 10 as well as 25 gbit/s symmetrical fiber to the home. Totally unnecessary, but really sick

[ashen dragon]

That's insane. I'd totally do it, lol.

[river badge]

Costs around $70 per month for both tiers, with different setup fees respectively

[ashen dragon]

That's cheap.

[river badge]

Price is actually the same as the 1 gbit/s tier

It really is!

Provider's called Init7, I wish companies like them existed in more places

The hardware you'd need to support that kind of speed is another question, but the flex of saying you have 25gig would be almost worth it

[ashen dragon]

lol, for sure

[rocky badge]

You're not going to saturate it with a single device most likely :P, but if you had a lot of people behind the same connection yea

[ashen dragon]

@mighty wind I guess I was hoping for a solution that could do anything I could possibly think of, so I wouldn't have to decide exactly what I want it to do up front

but I may have to design the system on paper first

[mighty wind]

I am seeing some no name stuff on amazon that isnt too much to test out and see if it will work

looks like 4k-30 is the max it can do

[river badge]

The usecases I could think of were something self hosted like a plex server, maybe Linux distro torrenting, and of course the speedtest screenshot

10gbit/s might be almost useful, but 25 is just unnecessary for basically anything

[rocky badge]

I doubt you could get 25 Gig to an ookla speedtest server

And depending on their peering and such with other ISPs, ehhh you'd have to have a lot of Plex streams externally

[river badge]

Well, the ISP does have their own ookla server, but even with that I'd doubt it'd reach that speed

[ashen dragon]

4k30 or 1080p60 would probably be enough for most of the stuff I want

[river badge]

They have an open peering policy, actually really good stuff

[ashen dragon]

aside from when I want to do 4k120 gaming or HDR stuff, but that can be directly connected to my pc or theater display, the stuff I want to distribute wouldn't necessarily need to be full res, full quality

[rocky badge]

Although if I could get Xfinity Gigabit Pro or if I lived in Utah and got a utopia connection, I'd probably take it but ehhh lol

[ashen dragon]

@mighty wind mind if I pm you?

[river badge]

Other ISPs here have offered 10 gig for a while now, but it's a shared connection with other customers

Whereas this is actually dedicated

[mighty wind]

Sure

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/zPySY07Zts.png

I wouldn't mind this lol

3Gbps of service for $299/mo, static IPv4, static /48 IPv6, Comcast business but residentially available

https://i.ryois.me/XNU7FwFPWA.png

[waxen scroll]

thats in my area blob

im not paying a car payment for internet tho

[rocky badge]

lol

[river badge]

Setup fee/min contract length? Building out the infrastructure must cost, no?

[rocky badge]

$500 install, $500 activation, $299/mo, 24 month "contract"

[river badge]

Ah.

[rocky badge]

Infra costs included

[waxen scroll]

thats not a bad deal either but its stupid for most non-businesses to do it

[river badge]

Compare that to ~$350 setup, then ~$850 annually for 25 gbit/s

I don't envy the US when it comes to stuff like that

[rocky badge]

They splice 6 strands in the splice tray

You'll only use two though

because they just run a full 6 strands to you

[river badge]

This is assuming you already have fiber at your house, which is largely already built out nationwide

[waxen scroll]

wheres the other end go though

im not sure how the hell they'd get it to me that easily

[rocky badge]

https://medium.com/@Gtwy/comcasts-2000mbit-fiber-to-the-home-f106d64d5f51

[waxen scroll]

is it a device already in the neighborhood?

[rocky badge]

They ran an additional 900' for them

[river badge]

It's their nearest pop Im guessing

depends on the area

[copper rover]

DaFuq? They just ran multimode to the PC?

[rocky badge]

no

The Juniper is the CPE provided by Comcast

monitoring, VLANs, etc

The closest tap to him was "at max capacity" so that's why they had to do an additional 900' lol

https://i.ryois.me/0hQT1eopQv.png

[river badge]

I think FTTH really isn't a large enough focus in most places

[rocky badge]

oops, 2 Gig should be over one 😂

[waxen scroll]

i wonder if that switch makes a lot of noise too

[rocky badge]

https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/acx-series/acx2100/specs/

[waxen scroll]

0 db lol

damn

[rocky badge]

more recent longer detail article https://todayamerican.medium.com/the-definitive-guide-on-how-to-get-xfinity-gigabit-pro-2gbps-up-down-residential-internet-42605c8e86fe

[copper rover]

That 2gbps, is that symmetrical?

[rocky badge]

yes

[copper rover]

Damn

Must be super expensive

[rocky badge]

#networking message

[copper rover]

$299 a month after installation and 2 year commitment?? Oh, what's the catch? Download quota? Public IP non-static??

[rocky badge]

unlimited data

Static IPv4

Static /48 IPv6

[copper rover]

bullshit. no way

I"ve seen commercial (Business) class cost way way more

[rocky badge]

its Comcast business Metro-E

but for residential

https://binaryimpulse.com/2019/11/comcast-gigabit-pro-install/

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/76fpws/comcast_2gigabit_symmetrical_fiber_installed_today/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/ai41fi/home_network_10gb_layer_comcast_gig_pro_xpost/

[copper rover]

Unlimited, static IP, business SLA and 299 a month. NFW.

Shit, run that to my cabinet in the datacenter

[rocky badge]

I dunno how you’re supposed to use one IP across both handoffs, unless it’s a static IPv4 per handoff???

Although the today American medium article says they give you static IPv4 instructions per interface

[waxen scroll]

LACP

[copper rover]

Confirmed? Because I was thinking of bonding too.

[waxen scroll]

I can't confirm

Other telcos do it

Since it's supported by non-script readers I'm sure they can do custom settings

[rocky badge]

Oh yeah, each handoff gets the ips

So two static IPv4 and two static IPv6 /48s

[lean pebble]

Mhmm

[waxen scroll]

I want starlink for enterprise

I'd like to order 10

@hollow marlin who needs LTE for OOB

[spark cargo]

https://twitter.com/brianwhelton/status/1398919318985977863

Brian Whelton (@brianwhelton)

Survey done✔️
New holes location decided✔️
Contractor selected✔️
Drilling done✔️
Users report network problems that weirdly appear not to be DNS related😕?
Investigation instigated and plaster board section remove...🤬

Remember: Documentation should include where cable runs are!

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[hollow marlin]

I would honestly like it when its ready. With the current downs times, Id some how need it then

[hollow marlin]

Either NAT at either IP or static pointing to each that can be handled internally. Not common for Metro-E which is purely L2

[lean pebble]

Gn :)

[rocky badge]

I found out my answer later

You just have statics per interface

[hollow marlin]

Thats not metro-e then. Just a typically inet hand-off with SLA. Pretty much our base package, just not at a 1gig

Also it looks like they are deploying the Juniper ACX as their CPE, they must have a hell of a discount because that model in particular is almost 10 grand

[waxen scroll]

I've seen 70% off Cisco at a company sooo

[hollow marlin]

Juniper has decent discounts, but no where near Cisco's. 70% of Cisco is easy peasy

[lean pebble]

The company I used to work for had 75/80% fortigate and less ciscos

[waxen scroll]

70% is when you have 1000+ sites to equip

They also get salty if your orders slow down

[hollow marlin]

Even with a handful of Cisco equipment left we still get 50%, if we get an IE on staff with our vendor its then 75%. Other than that I let others deal with the sales, I hate playing the games

[waxen scroll]

They made a threat to take our discount away so we switched to aruba

[lean pebble]

They used ciscos only because they had old cisco switches laying down at the office

[waxen scroll]

I've never played the games. That's director level and higher. They get the discount defined and I make orders

[lean pebble]

What do you think about this configuration?
My friend and I have VMware esxi that having issues with uploading files trough the VMware esxi web interface while using cf proxy.
I decided to turn CF proxy down from this sub domain and instead I made 2 nginx reverse proxy for more protection the two proxy servers talk between them.
One on vps on my esxi and one vps in different company but sane location.

[rocky badge]

Idk, you get two ports of internet and you configure your device for static IPs for each

[undone basin]

What do you guys think about the UDM Pro

[rocky badge]

For what usage

[undone basin]

I'm kind of a huge network nerd and i would like to use it for home

[rocky badge]

I mean, I have one at home and it’s fine, I’m not really doing any “advanced” stuff on it lol

[undone basin]

is it possible to run nord vpn on it?

[rocky badge]

Idk about that lol, I haven’t looked into that since I’m not really worried about tunneling all of my traffic over a vpn

[undone basin]

I'm not to worried about it either but since we have it we might as well use it

one last question so we use Sasktel as an isp and in there support it says we have to use there router/modem combo in bridge mode. but i read on reddit that if it supports vlan which udm does will i need the router/modem combo.

[tender hazel]

if it is a router/modem combo how are you going to connect the uplink?

is it fiber or something?

[undone basin]

Yes I would hook it to ont

[tender hazel]

it could work, depending

it may not work if the ISP's modem/router combo is using dot1x to log into the ONT

since then the ONT would be expecting the dot1x login which your router would not provide

[undone basin]

Is there a way to see

[tender hazel]

but I'm not sure how common that is

either way it shouldn't be a big deal

if it doesn't work in the ONT directly, you can go through their modem/router combo in bridge mode and it will be basically the same

[undone basin]

Ya I guess. Thanks

[copper rover]

Lucky it wasn't high voltage lines. Jesus

I've seen a cable installer drill through masonry into a main utility feed. Melted part of the drill bit and of course burned out the motor. Dude was lucky to still be alive.

[tender hazel]

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MikroTik-10G-25G-NIC-Linux-5.14

I'm not sure what that is all about

is mikrotik actually making a NIC for PC's

[copper rover]

Do all 10G NICs support RDMA?

[tender hazel]

I'm not sure

[copper rover]

To clearify, all PCIe NICs. Obviously USB-C 10g dongles wouldn't

But yeah, not sure on the PCIe cards. But if the OS supports it at both ends, RDMA should be a no-brainer 🙂

[rocky badge]

I don't think so

[hollow marlin]

@tender hazel maintenance windows tonight at 00:00 est. Which includes major software upgrades in the core for a region. Due to bugs and a recent control plane crash, starting to sweat bullets

[tender hazel]

ugh

[hollow marlin]

Yeah it wouldn't be as bad if it did not require 2 upgrades, first one being a revision. Dual RE work great most the time, but they bug out far too often outside the cases where they fail.

Last crash the primary just went backup, so then it was backup/backup. Crash dumps showed nothing, and JTACs response was "this literally only happened one time ever, we do not know what is the cause or how it could possibly happen"

[soft sky]

How do I use iperf on Mac OS?

[thick minnow]

Download the binary and then run it from the terminal, I suppose

[tame carbon]

iperf -c hostname

[tame carbon]

Not all. Though with intel you can be fairly certain its available

There's only a handful of protocols that can use RDMA though

[soft sky]

It’s so weird that on iPerf I can only do the test on one direction

When I do it the other way around it doesn’t do anything

[thick minnow]

Hey so anyone know any VM software (other than VMware Player) that I can use to Virtualise ubuntu server on macOS?

I'm gonna try Multipass with Virtualbox rn

[lean pebble]

VMware fusion

Qemu

@thick minnow

[thick minnow]

Thanks

I have QEMU installed, but idk how to use it headless as well

[lean pebble]

https://appuals.com/the-5-best-virtual-machine-software-for-mac-computers/

[sour minnow]

I'm in the process of sourcing parts for a NAS.
Is it ok to run a consumer PSU 24/7 @ 50% capacity?

[broken jetty]

I've setup a NAS with TrueNAS, and I have an external drive (ExFat) with all the data I want to put on it. Is there a better way than transferring it over the network (my network is slow)?

[thick minnow]

Should be, but idk

[thick minnow]

What network interface arguments should I use for the VM? It's for a nextcloud server and added to that, how do I give it access to a particular directory on the host?
btw, tis using QEMU

[low pond]

Your directly using qemu?

No virsh/libvirtd?

[thick minnow]

yup

None of that really exist for macOS

[peak cloak]

https://mac.getutm.app/ ?

[thick minnow]

I used that but it doesn't show a way to run it headless

[tame carbon]

qemu exists for macOS

@thick minnow ^

[thick minnow]

Yea, I know. I'm using it

hence why I asked

[thick minnow]

^

[tame carbon]

VX1000NET

intel emulated NIC

or VirtIO if you can, but I think that is only with libvirt

[thick minnow]

(sigh), downloaded a new ISo and still this happens

Any fix?

[low pond]

kernel panic 😛

lovely

[tame carbon]

You're not launching it properly

[lean pebble]

I love when kernel goes panic 😆

[tame carbon]

Its complaining about missing an init file

[lean pebble]

But not on my machines

[tame carbon]

kernel starts, and then doesn't know what program to execute

so it panics.

usually, that init file on a distro would be something like systemd

[thick minnow]

I've tried different ISOs and the same thing happens

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow it errors much sooner actually

[peak cloak]

have you slept the computer

[lean pebble]

https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/libvirt#default

[tame carbon]

initramfs write error

[peak cloak]

beforehand

[tame carbon]

its failing to load the kernel into memory

[thick minnow]

Nope

[thick minnow]

So...... I should increae allocated RAM?

[peak cloak]

hmm, since I had a kernel panic issue which happens after sleep

[thick minnow]

I've allocated 512MiB, since server

[peak cloak]

try rebooting the computer

[thick minnow]

The computer or the VM?

[peak cloak]

computer

[thick minnow]

Well alr

20mins probably

[peak cloak]

really?

wow

[thick minnow]

Well, done

And ~15mins

Tho, tbh, it's expected

It's a hackintosh on an HDD

[peak cloak]

why macos then?

[thick minnow]

Started it as a Project 'cause I was bored

and now, I've gotten stuck in it because of macOS excluive apps

Read: Logic Pro X and mainstage

[peak cloak]

apple is pretty good with audio with what I heard

better than any solution on linux or windows

[thick minnow]

Yup

Well, turns out I just needed to allocate more memory

Well, now, anyone know how to run a QEMU VM headless? and How to share a directory with it?

[peak cloak]

wdym by headless?

in the background?

[thick minnow]

Yea

[peak cloak]

what are you using rn?

https://mac.getutm.app/ ?

[thick minnow]

No, just regular CLI QEMU

Tho I do have libvirt installed

[peak cloak]

just curious, what do you need to be running in the background?

[thick minnow]

I'm gonna be running a nextcloud instance on it, and it's also my regular use PC, so..... yea

And it's the VM

[peak cloak]

oh

[peak cloak]

found this

https://www.naut.ca/blog/2020/08/26/ubuntu-vm-on-macos-with-libvirt-qemu/

@thick minnow also macos apparently lacks HVF support soo, it'll be pretty damn slow people say

https://www.arthurkoziel.com/running-virt-manager-and-libvirt-on-macos/

[peak cloak]

oh wait, no I'm wrong about this

^that's for libvirt

[thick minnow]

ah

[peak cloak]

https://www.arthurkoziel.com/qemu-ubuntu-20-04/

[thick minnow]

Thanks

So how exactly does this work?

[peak cloak]

I never understood that, so I leave it as no

[thick minnow]

can i find modem by its default wifiname like UPC45645677 ??

[copper rover]

"Modems" (WiFi router combo devices) will typically have the SSID printed on a label to the side, or the SSID will contain a portion of the MAC address as labeled.

Alternatively, just log into the unit from via Ethernet cable to validate the SSID if there's too many WiFi networks in close proximity to you.

But generally the stronger signal will be the SSID closest to you :). But that's a dicey assumption in an apartment complex or high-rise office building.

[thick minnow]

okay

[copper rover]

SSH host will have a unique identifier. It's why Putty will ask if you wish to trust the connection. If you select yes and to remember preferences, it won't nag again.

But I agree, I personally don't have a need to keep the old identifier. Maybe if needing to SSH into a clustered server group (active / passive)??

[peak cloak]

ah the trusted hosts

[rocky badge]

It pulls your public SSH keys from github/launchpad

for SSH public key authentication

That option during setup does not change the SSH host fingerprint

For example: https://github.com/ryoismc.keys
Then I don't have to go back in after install to add to the authorized keys file

it also asks if you want to allow password based SSH when it find the public keys, which I usually disable as well

[tame carbon]

tbh, key auth is much easier than passwords

less things to remember, easier to use

[thick minnow]

Well, given up on running my own vm

[tame carbon]

dont you have docker?

[thick minnow]

I do, but it takes a stupid amount of ram for some reason

[tame carbon]

then... limit it?

[thick minnow]

and well, I tried docker pull daemon refused to connect or something like that

I might try it again soon tho

[tame carbon]

that just means that your docker daemon is either: not running, or you don't have permissions to read the unix socket

[thick minnow]

Okay, docker is working now

But how do I limit it?

the RAM usuage ie.

[tame carbon]

docker run -it --memory="1g" my-container

[thick minnow]

That's for a single container, right?

[tame carbon]

ye

they are just limits

[thick minnow]

Well, it seems for me it's the hypervisor itseld

[tame carbon]

that's probably more than just the hypervisor

but containers as well

[thick minnow]

Well, I'll run it and see

Thanks

[hollow marlin]

@peak cloak This cropped up in a post, this must have been where that one user said WIFI can reach 9.6gbps

    5 GHz: 4x4, up to 4,800 Mbps with 160 MHz Channels
    6 GHz: 4x4, up to 4,800 Mbps with 160 MHz Channels
1,200 Mbps + 4,800 Mbps + 4,800 Mbps = 10,800 Mbps.```

[peak cloak]

ah yeah

total wifi bandwidth

as in spectrum wide

[hollow marlin]

Yea just the aggregate as always. Marketing

[low pond]

All of them are 4x4 MiMO tho

I don't think my router has any of that

My routers total 2.4 bandwidth itself is 54Mbps

Like, COMEon man

[tender hazel]

yeah it is completely misleading

and the theoretical transfer rate is not the same as what you actually get anyway

I mean 2.4ghz N is 300 or 450Mbps depending on number of chains theoretically, but you would never get more than 1/3 of that in terms of real world download speed

[flat wagon]

:D

[tender hazel]

three Audiences?

[flat wagon]

yes LOL

we got a big 3 story home, plus we want decently strong wi-fi around the outside of the home too

[tender hazel]

yeah they should work well for coverage

4.5 dBi gain on 5ghz

[flat wagon]

since all of them are going to be on ethernet, I'm going to have Crystal help me with having the third antenna used for devices instead of communicating with APs

also

fin do you got any idea why my IPTV works for a few seconds on the Mikrotik router and then it randomly cuts out

like, I'll reboot the IPTV, it works and then it cuts out

crystal did the vlans and he installed the multicast package

[tender hazel]

I don't know - I haven't worked with IPTV before

[flat wagon]

okay

[tender hazel]

is the IPTV bridged? or is it routed somehow?

I imagine it is on a separate vlan and is bridged.. I've never had to use IGMP snooping for anything myself

[flat wagon]

Honestly, not sure. crystal knows that but he's asleep rip

[peak cloak]

Maybe some multicast settings? Idk

Maybe you could ask your isp?

[flat wagon]

It worked before, but I had to unplug all the ports from my RB4011 to my ISP router because we needed the ISP wi-fi boosters as temp

But it isn't working now for some reason

[lean pebble]

Does upgrade my hex-s OS at the middle of the week when tomorrow I have study or do it at the end of the week

[tender hazel]

is it plugged in differently now than it was before?

[distant wedge]

It’s your VLAN traffic bud

[flat wagon]

yes it is, I'm not sure what ports they were connected to last time

they were in different ports

[tender hazel]

that's probably the cause of the issue

[flat wagon]

ugh, but we can probs configure the IPTV on the new ports I connected them likely

i'm not super techie in networking, mostly crystal been doing it all

[tender hazel]

go through your router config and check for any ports configured differently

[flat wagon]

ok

fun are you free to help me setup the Auidence?

or you busy?

[tender hazel]

from the command line you can do /interface bridge export

[flat wagon]

fin*

not fun lol

kk hold on

[tender hazel]

you're looking for any ports that are configured differently from the rest

[tender hazel]

@flat wagon what's vlan 30?

you have a VLAN 30 and ether5 is untagged in one direction only on VLAN 30

it is a little strange to do that

[flat wagon]

nothing is on any ethernet ports of the RB4011 atm, it's all on my ISP router. do you think ether5 = for my IPTV?

[tender hazel]

it could be, but it is strange that it is only untagged on vlan 30 in one direction

setting untagged there only untags it on egress

egress = coming out of the port

not on ingress, ingress = going into the port

most likely whatever is plugged into ether5 is not going to work properly at all, depending

[crisp bay]

yo I have replaced my ISP and obviusly got other public IP. I have a minecraft server proxied trough a VPS using SSLH, but when I changed the ISP, it no longer proxy trough or perhaps when I try to connect to a server, connection refused, on systemctl status shows timeout...I tried reapplying proxied port, reinstalling SSLH (apt autoremove), I don't really know what else to do..It's happening since I have replaced my ISP. Sorry for crowding in the chat..

[lean pebble]

If mtik upgrade fails the backup will change everything back to the way it was ?

[harsh island]

If I want to get the most of my internet, do I just need to buy a router? Or a modem too?

[peak cloak]

wdym

by

"get the most"

[harsh island]

Like most reliable speeds and stuff

[peak cloak]

is it working fine now?

on ethernet at least

[harsh island]

I'm getting fibre in the house I'm moving to on July 1st. I dont have it right now

If I dont buy it, it will be the ISP router

So I dont know if its good or bad just yet

[peak cloak]

depends on what you need? do you want plug and play? do you want to be able configure stuff?

[harsh island]

Plug and play, lowest latency and highest speed

Maybe some port forwarding

[flat wagon]

nothing wrong with isp routers if you're just a basic user

that needs plug and play

and never have to worry ab it again

[peak cloak]

^ just don't complain

[harsh island]

What're the benefits of getting your own?

[peak cloak]

you own it

but you are responsible for it

isp won't fix anything

[harsh island]

I mean performance wise, is there any benefit?

[flat wagon]

you can configure them and they're (generally) more powerful as long as you don't cheap out.

yes

[peak cloak]

not really

kinda

depends

[harsh island]

On?

[peak cloak]

wifi?

ethernet?

[harsh island]

Both

[peak cloak]

if you ever need more wifi range just get another access point

[flat wagon]

like the mikrotik RB4011 has 4 cores which has more processing power than your ISP router

it's a powerful router

[peak cloak]

but like, if you don't want to mess with anything then generally isp is fine

[flat wagon]

also depending on the router you get, you'll also get better wi-fi range

[peak cloak]

there is a limit on wifi range

[flat wagon]

yes

[peak cloak]

most people forget that the client device has an antanee as well

and that also matters

[harsh island]

Nah don't think range is a problem

[peak cloak]

if range isn't a problem isp should be fine

[flat wagon]

to an average consumer, isp is good, unless you want to configure it more then getting a third party one is better

[harsh island]

I can just buy one after the technician installs it too right?

[flat wagon]

yes

[peak cloak]

kinda

depends on the service

[peak cloak]

what isp?

[harsh island]

Bell

[flat wagon]

oh

bell

then yes

ur in canada

?

[harsh island]

Ya

[flat wagon]

same :D

[harsh island]

Nice nice

[flat wagon]

which part?

i'm in BC

[harsh island]

I found fibre bell for $80 month 1Gb

I'm in Ontario

[flat wagon]

ah

[peak cloak]

@harsh island the reason I'm asking because optimum here in NJ has fiber, but their fiber service goes directly into an ONT/Router combo so you can't use your own without double-nat

I have Verizon Fios

they just have an ONT box

it was really ez when the tech came

ran fiber, setup ONT

plugged into my laptop to activate

[flat wagon]

tbh, your ISP router for 1G should be good, I suggest you save your money and keep the ISP router

[peak cloak]

then into router

and no downtime

because of how I did it

[harsh island]

Alright ill keep it, and I'll see in the future if I get problems

[flat wagon]

if you want to go higher than 1G, that's where third party routers come in

yes

[harsh island]

Thanks guys

[lean pebble]

Long time I didn't saw my internet run so fast.
I just upgraded mtik to the latest version router board and everything an bum internet alot better now.

[tender hazel]

where in bc are you, @flat wagon

[flat wagon]

surrey

[tender hazel]

ahh

just a stone's throw

[flat wagon]

what about you?

[tender hazel]

vancouver

the west end

[flat wagon]

oooo

must be expensive to live in van

[tender hazel]

just renting here.. been in this apartment since 2014, it was a lot cheaper then

wouldn't want to have to find another apartment now, would end up paying probably at least 30 or 40% more than what we pay

[lean pebble]

@tender hazel I managed to make he ipv6 tunnel work for everything except the websites that test it.
It was pretty nice untill it became slower again due latency 😅

But was way better than the first times that I got 120-170ms with it was pretty stable between 78-110ms

[tame carbon]

@tender hazel got stuck helping him out with his IPTV

the IPTV worked before, with just an IGMP Proxy on his upstream wan interface

just, with the vlan inbetween now, tagging and untagging locally, something is wrong

Feels like its not properly untagging multicast traffic

and the stuff on port 5, with vlan 30 that was just an example, not even needed for his setup

[tender hazel]

yeah the port 5 is misconfigured, I was just worried that maybe he had plugged his IPTV into port 5

[tame carbon]

@tender hazel there's only ingress filtering on his WAN Interface (with the GPON)

last time, there was no need for masquerade to a 2nd subnet, just the iGMP proxy config, was enough for a bunch of MFC's to show up in the list

it doesn't do this anymore

and my multicast knowledge is... not v good

idk how it behaves when going across such a tagged vlan

[tender hazel]

but the issue is that having port 5 untagged on vlan 30 will mean that egress traffic from port 5 will be vlan 30 untagged

it will almost certainly guarantee that whatever is plugged into port 5 won't work

[tame carbon]

egress untagged vlan 30 just means its a port vlan right?

connected device doesn't see vlan headers, the switch tags

[thick minnow]

vbox error while importing....
Do you know what's up with this?

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow download got corrupted?

[tender hazel]

egress untagged vlan 30 means that for anything plugged into that port, any untagged packets it receives will be vlan 30, but any untagged packets it sends will be put on vlan 1

[thick minnow]

idrk, but I'll download it again

[tame carbon]

@tender hazel that sounds like an issue

[tender hazel]

so essentially it is sending untagged packets on a different vlan than it will be receiving untagged packets on

[tame carbon]

that config on port 5

was just to show him how vlans are configured xD

I initially thought telus was using a vlan themselves

but turns out their gpon is just untagged traffic

[tender hazel]

yeah but then at some point he unplugged everything from his 4011 and plugged them back in to different ports than they were plugged into before

and that is when it stopped working

[tame carbon]

...

I remember explitly telling him that you cannot just use any port for whatever

[tender hazel]

so if the IPTV was plugged into port 5

[tame carbon]

yeah..

There's also a dumb switch in his network somewhere

[tender hazel]

I would remove the untagged setting from port 5 regardless

the correct way to do untagged for a port is not to use untagged, but to use pvid

[tame carbon]

mhm

[tender hazel]

avoid using "untagged"

there is almost never any reason to set "untagged" even though it is in mikrotiks own examples

[tame carbon]

@tender hazel that's what I do over here lol, I set both vlan and pvid to the same value

idk if that's correct, but it works

[tender hazel]

when you set PVID it takes care of both ingress and egress

whereas setting untagged handles egress only

[tame carbon]

with bridge vlans, I just use the VLAN only

for interfaces that go on bridges, I use the bridge ports to do the vlan stuff

[tender hazel]

yes, that is correct, except it makes sense to set the "tagged" ports for bridge vlans

if you want to trunk the vlans to another device

[tame carbon]

yeah on his CRS309, Its using bridge vlans

and the RB4011 just has a vlan interface on his SFP+ trunk

[tender hazel]

but there is almost never any reason to set the "untagged" ports

[tame carbon]

yeah but what about the GPON then?

its untagged gpon to a tagged trunk

[tender hazel]

you only need PVID for that

you don't need the untagged setting

PVID handles ingress and egress

untagged handles egress only

[tame carbon]

there's no PVID configured on the CRS

I cloned the config from my CRS305

[tender hazel]

then things are set up weird possibly

PVID is always safe to use because it handles ingress and egress simultaneously

[tame carbon]

pm

[tender hazel]

untagged only sets egress and so you can end up with funky scenarios where untagged packets egressing the port are one vlan, but untagged packets on ingress are on another

[tame carbon]

@tender hazelI sent you a pm with a screenshot

you can see there, I use a bunch of hybrid ports

[magic owl]

odd question, but how would i set the proxy settings for the 2011 spotify app lol

[stoic plank]

Lmao

[magic owl]

yeah ik lol

definitely something out of the ordinary

i dont know much in networking so

im here

[warm citrus]

Hello I have an win 10 laptop ,the wifi and bluetooth keeps disappearing and reappearing sometimes. If the wifi is available it doesn't show the availabe networks .
Anyone know why it is caused

[scenic fjord]

windows error..this is happening to everyone since the last update..nothing's wrong your laptop

[brisk sparrow]

but... why

[magic owl]

i wanna use this as the new spotify ui sucks ass

[brisk sparrow]

well, its just a matter of getting used to it. one day or another this old thing is gonna be abandoned. better to just get used to the new one

same thing with windows. it has no point of being on an older version because when you upgrade you have no idea what its all about

[thick minnow]

Does anyone know where vmware keeps their logfiles?

[brisk sparrow]

never had to look at them, do you have problems?

[magic owl]

probably in the VMware directory

[magic owl]

still wanna use it for curiosity

[thick minnow]

Should mention, macOS, so no proper directory

[thick minnow]

Yup, wanna see why the network adapter fails to connect

[magic owl]

hmm been a while since ive used mac so i gotta think

[thorny vector]

workstation or esxi?

[thick minnow]

Fusion

player

[thorny vector]

https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/Log-File-locations-for-VMware-Fusion/td-p/1431359

Bam, forum article for everything

[thick minnow]

Thanks

[magic owl]

if anyone knows how to set the proxy ping me so ill see it later

[thorny vector]

Proxy for what?

[magic owl]

this

auto detect didnt do anything

[thorny vector]

Well, do you know the info for your proxy?

[magic owl]

not a clue

i know close to nothing in networking

[thorny vector]

Well the auto-detect is probably using dhcp options to fill in the blanks.

If you don't have a proxy, no proxy should work fine

The app also might be old enough that it doesn't work anymore, spotify may have moved on from whatever architecture that app is expecting

[magic owl]

these are my options

[peak cloak]

If you just have a normal internet connection you won't have a proxy

[magic owl]

damn aight

[thick minnow]

Okay, so While trying to run the Nextcloud VM, I am unable to connect the network adapter to the Vmware VM........
Here's the log file:

[tidal frost]

Considering buying some old xeon hardware for a nas/plex server. How needed is ECC memory? Im finding various opinions on google and non ecc seems like itll save me alot of time and money on the build.

If it helps, im not deadset on the os yet. Main choice is between freenas and unraid at the moment. Mayyybbbeee proxmox first just for some versatility?

[peak cloak]

I don't know too much about memory, but for OS I would do freenas

unraid is kinda bad

[tidal frost]

But i was reading something about proxmox and freenas not playing well so i may just straight freenas

[peak cloak]

proxmox is a hypervisor, not a NAS solution

[tidal frost]

I know. Itd give me options in using the system for other stuff

[peak cloak]

oh, by running truenas in a vm

[tidal frost]

Yea. Didnt have exacts planned yet but something like that. Just in case i need a random linux install or something quick

[peak cloak]

truenas technically can use freebsd jails to run other things, but jails kinda suck I heard

[tidal frost]

I can run plex on freenas right?

[peak cloak]

yeah

I like to use jellyfin tho

[tidal frost]

Havent heard of it

[peak cloak]

plex is kinda centralized now

it's pretty good

imo, better than plex

[tidal frost]

Just recently got my plex running inside my main pc. Damn drm on my wifes dvds. Stalled that project quick. Ill check it out though. We dont use our plex server too heavily at the moment so switching isnt out of the question.

[magic owl]

i tried plex

didnt like it bc it was giving my audio files metadata that i didnt want since i had my own

i even explicitly told it to get metadata from my local files

[tidal frost]

Im not that deep on it yet. Just using it to more easily access my wifes movies (most. The non drm ones :( ) and family stuff

Like pictures and whatnot

[thick minnow]

^Anyone?

[peak cloak]

I don't see anything in the log

also

weren't you going to use docker

[thick minnow]

I was

But it didn't quite work out

Oh wait

I think I found a solution

So a forum thread suggested this and marked it as the solution sudo rm /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/NetworkInterfaces.plist && sudo killall -9 configd

[tame carbon]

@tender hazel I fixed his issue

It was the firewall

had to allow IGMP on the input chain

[thick minnow]

Well, this doesn't work either

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow do you even know what that does?

Deletes network configuration, and kills the daemon

[thick minnow]

I assume it deltes the network config

So......
You have any idea on how to fix it?

Oh wait

nvm

It works now

[dull mirage]

i have vm... Can i connect there through ssh on same mechine?

from vm i can ping my pc

but from pc to vm i cant

[rugged fern]

did u install network drivers for VM

and/or passed them thru? (depends on VM)

[dull mirage]

idk xd

[peak cloak]

What type of networking are you using?

Macvtap?

Which is a bridge

[dull mirage]

heh?

[peak cloak]

Nat?

[dull mirage]

heh?

windows

[peak cloak]

What hypervisor are you using

Hyperv?

[dull mirage]

heh? home

[peak cloak]

Virtual box?

[dull mirage]

Vm

Virtual Box

[peak cloak]

Ok virtual box

Let me look that up real quick

https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html

[dull mirage]

uh

[peak cloak]

What are your current network settings

[dull mirage]

def

[peak cloak]

You gotta know some basics

Literally in vm settings

[dull mirage]

card 1

[peak cloak]

Ok so it's nating

[dull mirage]

maybe if i disable it it will go through windows

xd

[peak cloak]

No that's not how it works lol

Yeah the situation you described makes sense

Idk too much about virtual box but I have an idea

In card 2, try to add host only

What are the drop-down options

@dull mirage

[dull mirage]

1. site bridge
2. inside network
3. site with host
4. general driver
5. Nat site

[peak cloak]

Ok enable card 2 and put it as site with host

[dull mirage]

ok

done

[dull mirage]

request timed out

[peak cloak]

You may have different ips now

On the host

[dull mirage]

no ubuntu displayed it on startup

[peak cloak]

Do ipconfig /all

[peak cloak]

?

Ok Ubuntu do ip addr

[dull mirage]

ye im using correct ip

[thick minnow]

Anyone know how to connect to a wireguard vpn on ubuntu server?

[peak cloak]

On Ubuntu?

It should be pretty ez

[dull mirage]

still nothing

[peak cloak]

Idk I'm not an expert in virtual box

[dull mirage]

😦

nvm

[thick minnow]

So, how do I do it?

[peak cloak]

https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-set-up-wireguard-vpn-on-ubuntu-20-04/#linux-and-macos-clients-setup

[thick minnow]

Thanks

[lean pebble]

someone knows where can I download vmware vcenter iso?

[tender hazel]

vcenter is not free

[lean pebble]

I have license but can't find a way to download it

I have vmware esxi enterprise with all the additional things like vcenter

[clear igloo]

You need to have a license tied to a vmware account

Then you can download it from here:
https://my.vmware.com/en/web/vmware/downloads/info/slug/datacenter_cloud_infrastructure/vmware_vsphere/7_0

[lean pebble]

this link gives content not available

are you sure this link should work?

[clear igloo]

works for me just fine

[lean pebble]

Content Not Available

Dear user, the web content you have requested is not available.

[clear igloo]

That's really odd, it shows up as this for me

I'm not logged in or anything either

[lean pebble]

weird I'm trying from 2 different networks

maybe geo restricted ?

[high token]

How powerful is power over ethernet? Like how much amps and volts can it carry?

and it can be done with any ordinary cat6 cable?

[lean pebble]

I get this message on 3 networks now.
Including while using vpn on my phone

[scenic magnet]

depends on injector,cable and other things

[lean pebble]

@clear igloo can you try download the trial?

[clear igloo]

Yah, I've downloaded it a few times, it's about 8GB

[lean pebble]

well I don't know what to do now xD

no netters what I try nothing help

[clear igloo]

Hmmm, maybe change the /en/ in the URL to your language?

not sure either =/

[lean pebble]

I tried in german because my server located in germany but no change

[clear igloo]

that's really odd, yah, I changed it to de and it works still (but in german of course)

[lean pebble]

I tried from 2 hosting companies in germany and same issue

what browser do you use?

[nocturne plank]

have you tried clearing your cache or using incognito/private mode?

[lean pebble]

yeah no help

different devices different networks with and without vpns different servers same thing

[clear igloo]

firefox but I tried chrome too just now

[lean pebble]

cleared all cache even from servers that I never surfed from

[hollow marlin]

Values are right on Wikipedia. Amperage is quite low

[hollow marlin]

Works for me as well

[lean pebble]

I get the same thing even with curl on different server

that's weird

I get this page on half of vmware pages

not only me my friend and I get the same results

well it worked now on my server

I'm confused

I just recopied the same link again

[topaz cosmos]

when you connect to a site, can they see the IP of the actual device itself?

[lyric relic]

uh yeah

how else would they tell your location to hot singles in your area

[topaz cosmos]

im talking about the device ip not the network/router ip

like the ip thats assigned to your device in your local network

[lyric relic]

again, yes

[topaz cosmos]

how? do the data packets contain the sender's public network ip and the private device ip?

or do devices have a public ip too that outside things can see

i need it explained to me

like i don't get it. like if i connect to a server using my phone, it's just seeing my networks public ip right?

and the router takes the data and sends it to me because it knows that i am the one communicating with the server because the phone has a private ip assigned to it.

@lyric relic ?

[hollow marlin]

You are correct, they cannot see your private network

[lyric relic]

yeah i got it wrong

schizophrenia

[hollow marlin]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo You know of any software for RFC2544/Y.1564/RFC6349 testing? Ciena is the only vendor I know that supports it natively on network equipment, but outside dedicated devices, feels non-existent in software. I mean Juniper support 2544 but its halfassed

[topaz cosmos]

so what about when ipv6 is fully around? will devices be directly communicating with servers because they aren't using NAT, something for ipv4, or am i misunderstanding

[waxen scroll]

No

https://www.viavisolutions.com/en-us/product-category/network-test-certification/bit-error-rate-test-bert

I've used these

What's that Cisco test kit

T-Rex?

Maybe that will?

[peak cloak]

they have a public ip

but they are still going through the router

having public ip != directly connected to the internet

and yes, no NAT

and actually kinda counterintuitively ,because you have so many addresses, I would say it's more "private" in a way

in a /64, the smallest recommended v6 subnet (for things like SLAAC to work) has 18446744073709551616 addresses

[thick minnow]

not enough. /shrug

[hollow marlin]

Yeah we have them as well. Looking for a software solution, which is surprising because customers complain to their SP all the time but no software was created as a response? Not a fan of truck rolls for testing. It's an odd field that has so little.
I forgot about T-Rex but I don't remember what results are gathered

[hollow marlin]

Public v6 is still directly connected, PAT is really the only mechanism where it's not directly connected.

[peak cloak]

still goes through router and firewall

that's what I mean

most people suddenly think, it's directly connected with no firewall

[hollow marlin]

I understand that, I don't consider FW/ACLs as a factor of what's directly connected.
And yes people thinking no NAT means no FW is the biggest problem

[tender hazel]

a big ISP in eastern canada, Rogers, pushed IPv6 out to their customers with Hitron cable modems without the Hitron supporting IPv6 firewalling

I guess they counted on the customer's windows firewall or whatever on their PC to provide enough protection, but I don't think that was a good move

better to hold back IPv6 than push it down with no firewall

[polar sequoia]

Hey guys...could anyone tell me if these numbers are good or bad...because I get really annoying ping spikes and this problem makes online games unplayable

[hollow marlin]

There are many engineers that also prefer either the FW disabled in the FW or the client with the argument of it causing too many issues. It's a joke argument honestly but you see it a ton in zero trust.

[waxen scroll]

lol i should ask if I can start an ipv6 project

prob gonna get told hell fing no

maybe i can put it in the lab and be like "welllllll now I need it on the core switch. im just testing bro"

[low pond]

guys what is this i6vp

is that a virus

[thick minnow]

No

It's just a "new" standard

and it's ipv6

[tidal frost]

So i was looking at freenas and it says truenas core is the new freenas. What does this mean for someone new to the software, and does that mean the "core" download on truenas page is the same download i would get from the freenas site?

[tidal frost]

Or do i just forget it and use unraid? It seems to get alot of hate online but the vm support is attractive. I enjoy playing with random os and sometimes stuff i wanna do will only run on 64bit linux based stuff. Old ipad modding specifically

I could just use my main system for stuff like that though. Idk. This project became a project quick and theres alot more to consider then i thought

[thick minnow]

Yes, it's the same

[tidal frost]

Okay cool so that means for troubleshooting i can look at truenas stuff which sounds alot more proxmox friendly which makes me extremely happy

Current plan for my first homelab right now: proxmox running truenas for a storage backbone, alongside ubuntu as a general use /plex host. Am i understanding all this properly or am i missing something? Seems like a fun project. Server will be here Friday

[thick minnow]

I don't think you're missing anything

Well, if you need any help #networking is here

[tidal frost]

Its not as easy as just does anyone know. Alot depends on exact use case. Because steamlink and stuff exists as a super simple solution but if you wanna build an actual server your in for a long day

-guy whos had a long day planning his first server XD

Do you own your place? What's your general situation?

[thick minnow]

What do u need from it?

[tidal frost]

Okay so you cant do anything major like just straight up passing cables through walls and mounting stuff

I was initially gunna suggest something like linus setup since you made it sound like the 2 rooms are close

[thick minnow]

Also, wait, you want it on the Local network or the internet

Loud its on u in that thing I can't help

You should probably be using ethernet

I have one if u want I could help u tomarow

OK remind me tomarow on DM if u like

[tame carbon]

@thick minnow your own exclusive cloud gaming server? what

you want to rent a server? or have your own?

cloud implies: someone else's computer

[thick minnow]

On local

[tidal frost]

They want to use their main pc as a gaming server so they can play around their house on their laptop that im assuming cant run them as well

[thick minnow]

So use moonlight

If u got nvidea

[tame carbon]

wait whut, his gaming pc as gaming server?

[thick minnow]

So...... Install a server distro or Proxmox?

[tame carbon]

Not sure how you are going to game on it, without doing HW passthrough, which is... tbh, quite a pain to get to work at all

video tutorials

I bet that video is sponsored

why are they recommending you to use parsec

Its certainly something I would never use

because its not free/opensource

[tidal frost]

What's parsec?

[thick minnow]

Wait, RDP?
Why?

[tidal frost]

For all that couldnt you just use TeamViewer?

Ive considered it on and off. Youd need to make sure you had super low latency lan setup

Been tossing around a similar idea for awhile. Itd let you use almost any screen with a Bluetooth connection and the ability to run the software into a personal gaming pc

Bluetooth assuming for peripherals

Cuz ive got an ipad i was looking for a way to reuse. I dont know enough about all that to help you much though

It hasnt been relevant enough for me to find any videos or anything right now. Ill check it out tho

My adhd brain has 1500000 projects that i swear I'll get to at some point haha

[thick minnow]

Try porting a Linux appplication to macOS

You'll get a good 7-14 days off

Yea no, you can't yet

Microsoft isn't even distributing the ISO

Then use QEMU and virtualise?

UTM better

Well, that's been a pain in the side Linux gamers for years

So, you aren't alone

[tidal frost]

Thats why i keep my main pc windows. I wanna sit down after work, press a button to update drivers, and go.

Have you tried stuff like steamlink? Or is that out of your use case

[thick minnow]

Yea, that might be easier

[tidal frost]

Like to me it sounds like what you need is a whole new pc thats meant to do what you want

Cant you add non steam games to your library?

Not sure how that all interacts. I dont use steam too much

[thick minnow]

Yes, I think so

[tidal frost]

Yea docks exist

Your pushing it trying to run pvp stuff but you may get it working. If its not good enough for pvp, try other games that don't require as much precision before you give up on it

Its not that your going to have alot of latency nessecarily, but you are 100% going to have more then the other player

Which becomes the issue in games like that. Whereas you don't care as much if you have to press the button a hair earlier in god of war

Rip

Thats the same issue i have with my ipad. Its a first generation mini

[thick minnow]

Well, Good luck with that

[lean pebble]

parsec is nice I used it from linux to connect to my windows vm before I had another screen

[tame carbon]

I bought another hAP ac^2

just arrived :)

[thick minnow]

Nice

[tame carbon]

I needed another to test this meshing

[clear igloo]

Spirent VM perhaps?

[cosmic bronze]

anyone know how to fix this?

[waxen scroll]

no

[waxen scroll]

whats with you and your $20k solutions

he wants free

[clear igloo]

lol

[cosmic bronze]

anyone?

[peak cloak]

change dns server

[cosmic bronze]

i changed it to 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 but same thing still persists

im not even sure if its a problem with the dns but every time i go on my pc i have to turn it off and on multiple time for my internet to work normally

like it will connect and say 4-5 bars but be AWFULLY slow

[hollow marlin]

I did not realize they had VMs

[clear igloo]

Yah, you can do virtual appliances now too

[snow lance]

when I type in a url and hit enter how does my pc know what server to connect to

[low pond]

Look up on how DNS works.

[peak cloak]

dns

[tame carbon]

@snow lance it resolves the hostname in the url, opens a TCP socket to this IP address on port 80 or 443 for HTTPS

Then, it sends the HTTP headers, and since HTTP version 1.1, it also sends the hostname as a field

[snow lance]

so if you want a URL you ask the dns if you can have it?

[low pond]

Pretty much.

[snow lance]

ah

[peak cloak]

kinda

[tame carbon]

if you fetch http://google.com/

[snow lance]

[tame carbon]

what it does

[peak cloak]

computer asks the dns server

[tame carbon]

it resolves google.com

[peak cloak]

what is google.com

gets the ip

[snow lance]

yeyeye and then it ask server

via ip

[peak cloak]

and your computer does a HTTP request to that ip

[tame carbon]

Then it opens a TCP connection to that IP address

Sends the HTTP request in that TCP socket

and the server responds

with the content

[snow lance]

does my isp plan the physical route the signals should go then or smth

[low pond]

That's BGP now

[peak cloak]

kinda

[snow lance]

to arrive at the server physically

[tame carbon]

@snow lance HTTP is layer 7, that's all much higher

[peak cloak]

that's BGP and MPLS

[tame carbon]

This is all just IP

Internet Protocol

[snow lance]

hoh

[low pond]

OSDI model or something

[tame carbon]

OSI

Open Systems Interconnect

[low pond]

Sorry yea

[tame carbon]

Layer 3 is IP

[peak cloak]

that's routing, BGP and stuff

[snow lance]

ahhh

[peak cloak]

bgp chooses the path

[tame carbon]

Layer 4 is the transport layer, this defines things like UDP and TCP, TCP being the most dominant for reliable transmission

[snow lance]

and ISP does that?

[peak cloak]

between ASNs

[low pond]

b0rDer GaTewAy Pr0toCOl

[low pond]

yes

[snow lance]

very interesting

[tame carbon]

@snow lance the actual provisioning of the routes on the internet, that is done behind the scenes, and this uses a crazy complex combination of BGP, MPLS and OSPF

[peak cloak]

isp sets up BGP and all internal routing and peering with other ISPs

[snow lance]

does it have any big delay?

[peak cloak]

wdym?

[low pond]

does your simple google search lag >:D