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#networking
peak cloak
change the lan subnet ip range tho
to something that actually makes sense
if you want to, you could get rid of the nat on the pfsense, but still have another range. That's what I did with my vyos vm
for my kubs network
and then you just configure a static route on your main home router
thick minnow
Mhm. Well now so i just use some random 192.168.x.x adress for example
peak cloak
yeah
peak cloak
yeah
thick minnow
Figured it out, went with 52
peak cloak
yeah so a /24 would be 192.168.52.1-192.168.52.255
well the .255 is the broadcast address
thick minnow
Yep
peak cloak
so the last usable address is 192.168.52.254
thick minnow
Yes, but now the weird thing is, im trying to acsses the pfsensr webgui, but its telling me unreachable adress
An now im for some wird reason, getting two loopback adresses on 127.0.0.1 under two ports 49669 and 49796
Well thats....
Tried pinging the other machine on the wan side, 100% loss
peak cloak
Yes, but now the weird thing is, im trying to acsses the pfsensr webgui, but its...
yeah because it's nated
so that makes sense
and the main router doesn't know about that subnet
try pinging the "wan" address
thick minnow
try pinging the "wan" address
As expected i guess
peak cloak
yeah
but that's from pfsense itself?
wouldn't you want to try pinging from a local lan device
that's on the .222.0/24 network
thick minnow
Ah you mean from a loacl computer
peak cloak
well yeah
pinging the router
from the router
how would that help?
it's just loopback
thick minnow
Well that might explain
peak cloak
Well that might explain
what's the ip of that device?
thick minnow
I pinged the adress from ipconfig on the wan computer an then it had acsses, lemme try something
peak cloak
yes
pinging yourself
of course that would work
@thick minnow The default is to block everything on WAN so if everything is done correctly the pfSense WAN interface shouldn't respond to ICMP.
thick minnow
Oh, so i need to unblock that device then. But it still then dosent make sense that i cant acsses the webui to pfsense when that computer is connected to the lan side
peak cloak
Oh, so i need to unblock that device then. But it still then dosent make sense ...
you sure it's on lan?
in cmd show it's ip
then try pinging it
what ip are you trying anyway?
thick minnow
The wan ip is 192.168.52.1 and on the other computer ethernet adapter 2 is 192.168.52.2
thick minnow
Now thats a new one
peak cloak
see
there you go
you sure you set the IP of pfsense lan
correctly
it's 192.168.52.1/24
thick minnow
Yep
peak cloak
huh
peak cloak
idk much about pfsense
thick minnow
Cable is connected and everything, but when i try to ping it i get this
peak cloak
windows issue?
thick minnow
I dont understand ot
peak cloak
try linux
thick minnow
Idk maybe
thick minnow
Well, then ill have to fire up an vm, cuz i dont have any rendom computer here i can clonk linux on
thick minnow
Ok
Now that was not what i expected to see
Now im restarting the laptop and rebooting pfsense, so will see now
thick minnow
try restarting the windows network stack
Ok now all the dns ang gateways show up + ipv 6
Pinged the router once, got one reply
peak cloak
huh
well ipv6 is just link-local
you will always have a link-local ip
unless it's disabled
thick minnow
Well yes, that make sense. But what i dont understand is that it is connected, but i cant ping it in cmd vise versa. And i cant ping it from pfsense either. But it is connected, and the domain and ipadress on the computer connected on the wan side is correspondig with the default gateway
waxen saddle
Pinged the router once, got one reply
That looks like it fired up the IP stack and responded to the ping, then disabled ICMP or enabled a firewall and stopped responding to ping.
magic python
anyone here actively use PRTG? working on a end of year exam sort of deal
trying to get a webhook to work
old elk
hey guys, i am setting up my own cloud storage and i could use a bit help
thorny vector
@old elkWith what?
slate sonnet
Hey all, I'm having a problem with ssh on wsl2. I keep getting permission denied (publickey) on the pc that I'm using to connect to the wsl2 vm
tame carbon
@slate sonnet means your key wasn't valid
It tried authenticating with a private key
which was invalid
or didnt have permission
waxen scroll
where my @hollow marlin at
hollow marlin
waxen scroll
@hollow marlin its almost midyear
you know what that means?
clueless recruiters emailing us!
They are looking for experience with Cisco routers and switches, firewalls, WAN troubleshooting, and enterprise wireless knowledge. Any experience in a network operations center is a plus as well.```I hope all is well. I am reaching out to you in regards to a Network Engineer position in <city>, <state>. The position would be remote for the time being, and working the weekend/night shift.
keep in mind my deets are full of "network engineer. network designer"
F100
idiots.
When is a good time/number for me to give you a quick call?```these are great too. generic. probably didnt read a damn thing
eager lodge
Anyone have suggestions for good WiFi hardware for my home? Im in an ancient house that has metal paneling BEHIND plaster walls, so basically every room is nearly a faraday cage.
peak cloak
Anyone have suggestions for good WiFi hardware for my home? Im in an ancient hou...
you basically need an AP in every room
with ethernet
no mesh, just ethernet to every AP
eager lodge
Well, yes, but what hardware is best for that in terms of smooth roaming, adjustable power output to keep the ambient noise floor low, etc
peak cloak
Well, yes, but what hardware is best for that in terms of smooth roaming, adjust...
I have Tp-link Omada
I only have one AP since wooden house, so I can't tell you how good roaming is
eager lodge
I’ve heard good things about the Omada hardware — I was also looking at ubiquiti. Any thoughts on how they compare?
peak cloak
ubiquiti is eh now
expensive
they just had a major security breach with their unifi cloud
They are kinda the "apple" of networking
eager lodge
Oof, security breach is no good.
peak cloak
where they use terms that kinda make no sense
but idk, omada may also have that
also, only omada APs are good, the switches and routers look eh
eager lodge
Ya I have netgear managed switches, and a home brew router and firewall setup, so no worries there
How’s the omada management software
peak cloak
How’s the omada management software
no clue tbh, only have one AP, so never really needed it since it has a on board webui
eager lodge
Ah, alrighty
peak cloak
I once tried to do it I think
but didn't want to break the setup I think
idk what was the reason
my network wasn't as stable as it is now
now I have vlans and everything
firewall
etc.
god that's high
last time I shutoff my poe switch was when I redid the power
eager lodge
Niiiice.
hollow marlin
these are great too. generic. probably didnt read a damn thing
"Greeting person who works in internet, we saw your resume and by that we mean we found you're email and know nothing about you, but have this excellent position you would be a perfect fit. It's not full time, pay is crap, and more desktop support than networking but think of the family experience you can get working for a startup that's never been out of the red"
Summed up 99% of those emails
vestal surge
port fowarding on unifi isn't working
i'm trying to open a port up for VPN but it doesn't seem to be open - any thoughts?
waxen scroll
bruh
if you use the word family experience at me in regards to a job, the conversation is over.
reef gazelle
port fowarding on unifi isn't working
VPN on USG/UDM? Or on a dedicated/separate device?
peak cloak
i'm trying to open a port up for VPN but it doesn't seem to be open - any though...
under cgnat?
reef gazelle
Depending on your outbound and inbound firewall rules at the edge, you may need to create rules that allow traffic for that node.
peak cloak
ddns is working; port just won't open\
what are the first 2 octets of your wan ip?
on the router
not on google
vestal surge
153.196
vestal surge
WAN IN allowing traffic + port forwarding configured
I even allowed TCP and UDP for the firewall rule and port fowarding
I've deleted the rule. tried different ports. restarted the UDM multiple times. modem is in bridge mode with the UDM getting a public IP
rocky badge
sure your ISP isn't blocking the ports?
vestal surge
yep they aren't blocking any of the ports i've tried
peak cloak
fedora firewall?
jovial radish
Hypothetically speaking, how easy is to DDOS an local isp provider server and cause massive pain and headaches to everyone?
My ISP just contacted me via sms saying they are sorry for the state of the connection that they are suffering multiple packets attack, and that will take some hours to day to fix it
So, is it something easy to do? Or they are covering up something?
vestal surge
doesn't work on the raspberry pi either
peak cloak
Hypothetically speaking, how easy is to DDOS an local isp provider server and ca...
no, that can happen
vestal surge
i've gone through on the fedora server and added wireguard to fiirewalld
wg0 conf on the pi has the ip-tables rules built in
reef gazelle
@vestal surge configure a basic L2TP tunnel on the UDM and see if it will allow connectivity
reef gazelle
Blob's point of ISP shenanigans may be the issue
jovial radish
no, that can happen
Oof, that’s a bigger oof
So my brother met a guy on Conan that said they were going to ddos our IP, he came running and I said “it’s just a troll, get out”
Now this shit happens, we use carrier grade nat since almost no place in this shith*lê has fixed ip at a reasonable price
I don’t know if that’s related but thanks
peak cloak
Oof, that’s a bigger oof
So my brother met a guy on Conan that said they were go...
it all depends on how your ISP mitigates it
jovial radish
<@!690268207768141835> https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/387022787...
Thankss for this
jovial radish
it all depends on how your ISP mitigates it
They are horrible, there’s 2 reasonable guys there and the rest are a bunch of lazy guys
I had to configure all my Wi-Fi routers alone cuz they were having issues with double ip
jovial radish
Guess I will need to use data for a while, thanks
peak cloak
your eqipment shouldn't be configured by the isp
jovial radish
that's on your end
They are the only on the city that does not take 2 months to install your internet
Ps: Brazilian here
peak cloak
they have bigger things to do
jovial radish
your eqipment shouldn't be configured by the isp
They used to do everything from getting the Ethernet cable to wherever you want on your house, to even installing electrical sockets, they were amazing the first year
Than they fired almost everyone and it became that shit
rocky badge
Looks similar to this? https://blob.rocks/D3EbVBZYoe.png
vestal surge
l2tp now working because I'm stupid and didn't enable the radius server
rocky badge
😂
rocky badge
Can you try connecting to the server internally using the internal IP
vestal surge
I can ssh to the server?
rocky badge
no, connect over whatever VPN
vestal surge
I have to setup the rules in my firewall to let the l2tp connect to the vlan network right?
vestal surge
l2tp can't even access my dns
rocky badge
reef gazelle
Rule order for firewall rules will matter here
vestal surge
yeah there aren't any rules which should prevent anything on the LAN, secure vlan or the l2tp subnet talking to teach other 😦
only drop in LAN-IN is for iot vlan
rocky badge
What were you using before l2tp
vestal surge
I was trying to use wireguard. L2TP seems now to be working?
okay here's how I got l2tp working - I set the gateway IP as the DNS; i'm seeing the queries on my phone (as the l2tp) resolve in pi-hole using the gateway dns
reef gazelle
Can you ping the wireguard host?
vestal surge
while in with the l2tp? yus
reef gazelle
And you mentioned you set up ddns, can you verify that direct IP:port isn't working either?
reef gazelle
Alright.
vestal surge
this is really odd because the l2tp tunnel is running over the ddns
reef gazelle
That helps narrow things further
vestal surge
I'm assuming this is a bug with unifi and if I leave it for a few days eventually the port forwarding will play nice
thanks for your help @rocky badge & @reef gazelle 🙂
reef gazelle
On my USG Port forwards haven't had much issue taking effect but it is a different platform
rocky badge
reef gazelle
If you havent a reboot of the UDM during light hours may set things straight,
vestal surge
already tried that too... and force provisioned
argh! I'll come back to it later 🙂 thanks again guys
reef gazelle
No problem at all.
ebon temple
i am at my Unifi Limit™️
reef gazelle
@vestal surge last thing I'd look at is double and triple check that your IPs and ports match up. Sometimes it's small things like an extra zero that'll muck things up.
DDNS is working, a tunnel can be established using the edge as a host, and that tunnel can talk internally without issue, including the wireguard host based on our testing.
ebon temple
just CONNECT
should i just factory reset it?
nope, apparently waiting for like an hour fixed it.
analog plover
Quick question I hope someone can answer. All last year I played on a minecraft server that was hosted by a friends PC. We took a break and when I try to join I get errors. All of my friends can still connect. When I try to ping ANY IP address outside of my own network I get request time out. Any idea what may cause my PC to be socially distancing itself from the world?
boreal arrow
Quick question I hope someone can answer. All last year I played on a minecraft ...
There are a lot of reasons that could be happening. Like, a LOT of reasons. Need you to kinda narrow it down a bit. I mean, you could have a firewall that's a bit too overzealous -- or a bad patch cable that isn't 100% dead yet connecting you to the network...or hardware possessed by aliens... Need more clues.
analog plover
Well I can offer these bits of info, 1. the issue persists whether or not I'm on Ethernet or wifi, or even connected to my phones hotspot. 2. ive shut every firewall off and disabled every form of security my computer has to offer, even went as far as to disable my routers firewall, the issue still persisted. 3. I can still play things like minecraft for windows 10 with friends even when they host the world. I have no issues with any games in multiplayer. At this time it only seems to be giving me trouble when I want to connect to our Java server, which I've connected to hundreds of times prior to this week. the server itself has been reset, my installations of java and minecraft have been uninstalled and reinstalled.
I also have tried all general troubleshooting steps I know of and some others I found online. Even some command prompt mumbo jumbo that dealt with resetting IPs and whatnot.
boreal arrow
does it happen on other devices on the same network? phone/laptop/etc?
analog plover
So far I have tried it on my laptop as well. when i try to ping an IP address on my PC it says request time out, on the laptop it said general failure.
But it's done this on wifi, ethernet and my phones hotspot. I tried to phone hotspot as a quick troubleshoot around possible router issues but it had the same errors.
boreal arrow
if you remove the router/access point and just plug directly into the cable (or whatever) modem, does the problem go away?
analog plover
no
boreal arrow
well we've narrowed it down to either something with your ISP or something having to do with your software setup...
since you say it happens on your laptop too, I'm wondering if your modem is acting up
i assume you've disconnected it, waited a few minutes with the power disconnected, and cold-restarted it, etc?
analog plover
Something I've considered but have no way to verify is maybe a possible windows update is causing some trouble. And I thought that too but wouldn't using the phones hotspot as an alternative source of internet work around that? And yes I've tried leaving them unplugged for even as long as 30 minutes to no avail.
boreal arrow
eh...i mean, if you're right, then no...the phone hotspot wouldn't really do much if the bug is in your network stack somewhere
if you were comfortable booting off a usb stick, I'd try with ubuntu or something and see if the problem exists sans windows
that could help you eliminate like...a LOT of possible things
(not actually installing it, just booting from the USB and seeing if you can ping stuff)
analog plover
I am comfortable doing that but I need time to get it together to try it out. Unless I still have one laying around somewhere. I used to have a bootable Linux drive but it may be lost atm.
I think that will be my next step.
boreal arrow
yeah, that would basically tell you "it's software, and it's something to do with how you've set up windows" (probably) -- and since you probably set up windows the same way on your laptop and your regular machine, it stands to reason you might have done the same thing twice maybe
Worth a shot. and then, if it works, you can always just fix the problem permanently by installing ubuntu over that silly windows install and --- /ducks and runs away (kidding, kidding)
analog plover
Thanks for the help I'll see what I can do about being prompt with it to keep the suspense at bay lol
boreal arrow
Thanks for the help I'll see what I can do about being prompt with it to keep th...
I've gotta run but good luck with everything, i hope it turns out to be something minor!
reef gazelle
@analog plover it's stupidly simple, but have you tried the following in command prompt
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /renew
it'll instruct the DHCP server for your network to release your IP back into the pool, clear out any cached DNS resolutions on host, and then ask for an IP again.
analog plover
I have tried those! They did not work
vestal surge
<@108098640794382336> last thing I'd look at is double and triple check that you...
yeah I thnk the issue is that my host isn't at the edge. I wanted to put an opnsense firewall infront of the udm but honestly that is just a nightmare for me. I'm not that skilled with this
l2tp is working with the ddns so I assume its just controller deciding it doesn't want to forward traffic
cedar igloo
Please could someone let me know the cheapest Cisco ASA/ASAv devices? I am finding it difficult to navigate Cisco's website and cannot find a reseller who would sell any cisco firewalls without support
vestal surge
okay the plot thickens... running tcpdump on the UDM, when I check if the port is open with canyouseeme the port is closed however there is response in tcpdump (which I can't read) HOWEVER when I attempt to connect in with wireguard on the same port tcpdump reports nothing. this is checking with both tcp and udp...
okay. despite forwarding the port to the host, the port is hitting the WAN and isn't getting moved through the LAN...
tame carbon
@vestal surge l2tp traffic being blocked?
Are you sure you have the correct ipsec policies in your firewall?
vestal surge
l2tp traffic open
trying to get wireguard running on a server behind the firewall
I have a UDM and for some reason wireguard traffic on port 51820 isn't even hitting wan
even though the port is forwarded, when it comes from canyouseeme its not going from WAN to LAN
lean pebble
Hey guys someone familiar with sqlite3 migrate to mariadb?
waxen scroll
@rocky badge what did rouing change his name to
low pond
House
hollow marlin
Must keep your global outage quotas high
willow hinge
What servers can I put into one machine using VMs
User authentication, Active domain, highly secure storage, the ability to control applications, dhcp, and DNS
lunar spade
When my IP was down yesterday, only Discord went down for me, but for my friend with the same Internet provider, his internet stopped completely. Any ideas why his internet would go down more than mine or why only discord stopped working for me?
waxen scroll
no idea. the possibilities in networking are massive
low pond
Exactly, could be a local routing stuff, could be some misconfig or bug
lean pebble
Can be oles
tame carbon
inb4 Level3 went down again
like they always do
the amount of times that transatlantic traffic got knocked out last couple years, like a period where it would happen like once a month
and it took like half an hour each time before it was back
low pond
inb4 Level3 went down again
so one guy in the other group told too, like discord was acting wierd
i had no issues. mine is just working smooth
all sites working
dull mirage
how does it work? If i dont have public ip i cant portforward?
peak cloak
how does it work? If i dont have public ip i cant portforward?
yes
your isp cgnats
you may have ipv6 tho
where you have MANY public ips
dull mirage
eh... so if i dont have public ip i cant portfoward?
yes or no
clear igloo
No, you cannot port forward
dull mirage
No, you cannot port forward
if i dont have public ip?
peak cloak
if i dont have public ip?
no
dull mirage
okay F..
peak cloak
okay F..
what you could do is use a tunnel like ngrok or a software defined networking solution like zerotier
tall grotto
if i will use ngrok.. For the same price i can buy vps
if your fine with running IPv6 only you could use https://www.tunnelbroker.net/
it be free
and I mean you have some sort of public IP somewhere right?
I mean your on the internet afterall
Name cheap also offers a dynamic Dns service
peak cloak
if your fine with running IPv6 only you could use https://www.tunnelbroker.net/
you can't use that if you don't have a public ip
peak cloak
and I mean you have some sort of public IP somewhere right?
cgnat exists
you don't have control over that
tall grotto
Ig yea
peak cloak
tunnelbroker doesn't work with cgnat
tall grotto
Im aware
tall grotto
never really explicately stated what he was under
peak cloak
not having a public ip basically means under nat
peak cloak
Still don't get how tunnebroker would help, but whatever
tall grotto
Again, assuming he knows what hes talking about.
For all you know he could mean static
peak cloak
True
lean pebble
why github is so annoying ...
peak cloak
why github is so annoying ...
in what way
lean pebble
even if I use my account
peak cloak
they prob moved to ssh keys
peak cloak
https auth was deperacated for a while
lean pebble
doesn't help
peak cloak
the remote looks like this on the git git@github.com:PresentMonkey/bot.git?
lean pebble
yeah
peak cloak
tbh most of the time it's user error
lean pebble
well now different issue
done
I did a short guide of how to convert sqlite3 to mariadb
gloomy saffron
ok is yt down or what i cant even load a 144p video i swear
im loading for like 5 minutes and the video is stable for 3 seconds
hollow marlin
Down detector reports say yes. Many of my streams are cutting out so its not down but something is up
waxen saddle
It’s probably because I got mad at YouTube for continually defaulting to 480P and I started playing everything in 4K in a window smaller than 1080p
low pond
Down detector reports say yes. Many of my streams are cutting out so its not dow...
yea somethinghappened
since when did coudflare sauce get into youtube
silent musk
hi guys i have a problem its i have a ethernet plugged in but it says no internet connection and when i go to network status my settings craches i have no idea wtf is happening
hot totem
hi guys i have a problem its i have a ethernet plugged in but it says no interne...
#tech-support but download your Ethernet drivers from the manufacturer’s website
tender hazel
FYI - new MikroTik beta version: !) wireless - fixed all affecting 'FragAttacks' vulnerabilities (CVE-2020-24587, CVE-2020-24588, CVE-2020-26144, CVE-2020-26146, CVE-2020-26147);
I'm really not sure how they fixed all five so quickly
especially since they aren't an issue with MikroTik specifically but are instead an issue with the wifi spec itself
tame carbon
@tender hazel they should give Marty Verhoef a medal
dutch security researcher pumping out one paper after the other
first he reports on KRACK, then he reports on Dragonbleed
and now FragAttacks
tender hazel
holy crap
new v7 beta too
What's new in 7.1beta6 (2021-May-18 14:49):
!) added support for Let's Encrypt certificate generation;
!) added L3 HW support for all CRS3xx devices;
!) added MLAG support for CRS3xx devices (CLI only);
!) ported features and fixes introduced in v6.49;
*) other minor fixes and improvements;
built in lets encrypt certificate generation
and MLAG
tender hazel
MLAG is for doing LAG across two switches
tender hazel
so you can have one device, and instead of two connections to one switch with load balancing, you can do two connections to two switches with load balancing
tender hazel
yes
tame carbon
noice
tender hazel
before you had to choose between failover and aggregation, but it is both at the same time
tame carbon
another Single point of failure you can get rid of
tender hazel
yup
thick minnow
I've just backed up my router at home
Never thought I'd hear that sentence
tender hazel
umm?
lean pebble
going to try the upgrade
If you did backup so you can go try upgrade if not do backup don't try like I did with my old fortigate 🤣
lean pebble
Never thought I'd hear that sentence
Important thing to do to a router
lean pebble
<@!109801863771074560> another sleepness night I read
Only in the southern part
limber elk
Shouldve gone with a proper rack, but gotta try things when on budget i guess
peak cloak
Yeah racks are pricy
I got myself a used 2 post one
So no big severs will really fit in that
Just desktops on shelf's
limber elk
The thing is im not sure if its worth getting a rack since it was just for a networking equipment, no server whatsoever yet
limber elk
I got myself a used 2 post one
I would get that too if i have a place to put it
peak cloak
The thing is im not sure if its worth getting a rack since it was just for a net...
Ah that looks pretty fine
I need to get a patch panel
Rn it's all just going into the switch
limber elk
Mistake being mounting it with a plywood, it just rip the wood off
limber elk
Rn it's all just going into the switch
Its worth it, also dont cheap out on those, i did with mine and..... the connection turn to 100mbit whenever i poke the cable thats plugged into the patch panel
Regrets
peak cloak
Its worth it, also dont cheap out on those, i did with mine and..... the connect...
You have a keystone or punchdown one?
limber elk
You have a keystone or punchdown one?
Punch down
peak cloak
Ah
peak cloak
Yeah that's keystone
tame carbon
LSA punchdown yes
peak cloak
Yeah and then there are different punchdown standards
peak cloak
limber elk
gigabit going to 100M sounds like a termination fail
I verified it, not the termination
limber elk
This is punchdown
Mines keystone, and the keystones comes individually wrapped in plastic..... waste....
tame carbon
then it must be a cable fault somewhere else
gigabit needs 4 pairs, fast ethernet only 2
limber elk
No, its something with the keystone, because all of it do that
It works on full 1000 until i poke the cable plugged into the patch panel
peak cloak
Its a coupler @limber elk ?
limber elk
Coupler ?
peak cloak
Ah, punchdown keystone
limber elk
gritty valley
Punchdown keystones are far better and easier than female-female (or male-male, depends on how You look at it) coupler
peak cloak
^
limber elk
I thought it was something with the termination but no, its the socket
peak cloak
Punching down > crimping
limber elk
And yes i use a proper punch down tool
peak cloak
Yeah prob bad keystone then
limber elk
Flathead and hammer can also do the job
Never tried it, i mean crimping tool only cost like $40 at least the one i have, there are cheaper one out there
gritty valley
Never tried it, i mean crimping tool only cost like $40 at least the one i have,...
I meant for punchdown, had to punch 2 wires in and forgot tool in car
Did the job
limber elk
Yeah prob bad keystone then
Either bad... or simply fake, i dont think AMP made something this bad
limber elk
Did the job
Oh, well.... i use flathead screwdriver at some point, also used utility knife, not the sharp side, the end of the blade that isnt sharpened
gritty valley
Sky is the limit
limber elk
I mean sometimes you got to do something different when on a budget or when you dont have the right tool on hand, improvise
Its not nice to do that when you have to punch down 30 keystone at once tho
gritty valley
Ill drink to that
limber elk
Lmao, my hand hurts from straightening the wires for punching down 24 keystone
peak cloak
I never straighten the wires
limber elk
Guess thats a personal preference lol, i always do
tame carbon
Flathead and hammer can also do the job
anything can be a hammer
just use your imagination
gritty valley
Exactly
limber elk
Lol true
limber elk
That guy right there - hammer
gritty valley
slow pivot
That hammer there - hammer.
gritty valley
If Youre really ballsy - bottle of whiskey - hammer
gritty valley
Still works tho 💁♂️
tame carbon
gritty valley
JB weld it to a T shape from wood - hammer
gritty valley
https://www.getdigital.eu/web/getdigital/gfx/products/__generated__resized/1100x...
Those things hurt
I have legit slained a coworker of mine (with him agreeing) because he messed up
peak cloak
https://www.getdigital.eu/web/getdigital/gfx/products/__generated__resized/1100x...
what's that, just loopback?
gritty valley
(L)UART
tame carbon
Problem reports like that make IT guys and tech-savvy, helpful geeks like us just criiiinge, don't they? How nice would it be if we could "teach" these pen pushers some things? But no... instead, we have to explain how the monitor has to be switched on too!
The any key of my keyboard is missing.
Argh! It's a pity physical punishment is forbidden by law these days. But a small threat doesn't get you into trouble. Just let the whip glide through your fingers or hang it behind your desk. The effect is guaranteed! This way, even the dumbest 'lusers' (loser + user... get it?!) will fear you. Maybe this way they'll learn to do a re-start before they whine "My computer doesn't wooooorrrk!"
Daily annoyance
gritty valley
Daily annoyance by users - use a hammer
tame carbon
or this whip
gritty valley
If that doesnt help - use a bigger hammer
tame carbon
more whip
gritty valley
Which ever is closer to hand
tame carbon
I'll be the BOFH
slow pivot
unplugs the switch every morning to make coffee
thick minnow
oh the joy
tame carbon
they are using node
why the fuck isnt this build step written in js, and called by npm
tame carbon
instead
its a bunch of batch files
that copy files around and call grunt
and grunt calls npm
logic.
great, I've always wished to learn batch scripting
they are doing utter magic here, and I am now reading both batch and bash documentation to figure this out
thick minnow
gritty valley
Have a drink handy?
gritty valley
Prefered relaxing method is to beat users with lart?
tame carbon
for foo in "${TARGETS[@]}"; do
muh, bash does it better than batch
for %%foo in (item1 item2 item3) do ( ) <--- batch
can't give array items
have to list them
gritty valley
Ooooof
hollow marlin
@tame carbon New ROSv7 update. L3 HW support for all CRS300s now and MLAG
!) added L3 HW support for all CRS3xx devices;
!) added MLAG support for CRS3xx devices (CLI only);
!) ported features and fixes introduced in v6.49;
*) other minor fixes and improvements;```@hollow marlin Yeah I saw, @tender hazel shared the news earlier
but this is awesome
it means the CRS305 is now
hollow marlin
Ah yeah, I see that now
tame carbon
the best 10G switch on the market
@hollow marlin I'm getting my first paycheck end of this month, I'll have more money in one go, than I've had in a long time (student lyfe)
Probably going to buy some new toys to tinker with
I can't really practice on my own production rig
@hollow marlin I am curious about the KNOT that mikrotik sells
I kinda want to have one, and see what it is capable of
waxen saddle
Having used bash and CMD for scripting, I can assure you bash is superior in every way.
tame carbon
even worse
rocky badge
PowerShell is fine with the cmdlets
tame carbon
its not fine for a project that has to be built and executed on linux.
rocky badge
For stuff like Azure AD, AD, and such
tame carbon
Get out .
rocky badge
For linux lol no
tame carbon
Azure 
tame carbon
Azure is microsoft
rocky badge
and?
tame carbon
I dont need no hosted cloud from them
rocky badge
You're not everyone ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tame carbon
Apps that are built for azure, can only run on azure
thats why its cancerous.
Its vendor-lockin at a high level
I stay away from microsoft-related technologies as much as I can
hollow marlin
<@!462711605063450628> I am curious about the KNOT that mikrotik sells
I remember seeing that when it was announced, first impressions reminded me of just a LTAP with GPIO slapped onto it. I know Mist on their higher APs 3x/4x have many of the same features outside GPIO and are used for IOT and tracking devices/equipment physically. Really have not seen anything in production related to it so not entirely sure
tame carbon
@hollow marlin BLE as well
rocky badge
And? If you build stuff using AWS only stuff, you're going to be locked into AWS as well
Same for Google Cloud
The only way you're not really going to be locked into a cloud is if you just use their VM services, which is not really utilizing the cloud to the fullest
tame carbon
@rocky badge the place i am working for has bigger issues :P
tame carbon
... ok
rocky badge
If you're not using G Suite or AD on prem only, you're probably also using AAD
rocky badge
cool
tame carbon
I have a bunch of batch files that need to be rewritten :P
so I can get on with building a CI pipeline
rocky badge
you were the one who started the Azure hate, I was just saying PowerShell is better for Windows scripting compared to CMD ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tame carbon
@rocky badge it gets better
rocky badge
cool
tame carbon
their current solution, builds an angular app, then packages this in an empty tomcat servlet
so they can serve.. static html.. with a servlet??
I got headaches looking at this project
I got rid of all the tomcat related things, and went back to static files, from a webserver :P
distant wedge
Are you allergic to logic or something
tame carbon
Allergic to overcomplicated workflows, that slow down the team unnessarily
a test release shouldn't take 1 hour to do
especially if you have to do them 2-3x/week
waxen saddle
An way you can re-write the batch files to Powershell or anything else? Batch has the problem of randomly breaking depending on what Windows updates you have installed or OS version
tame carbon
@distant wedge a servlet instance consumes a bunch of memory compared to nginx hosting files off disk
and for an angular app, packaging it into a java servlet is unnessesary
rocky badge
An way you can re-write the batch files to Powershell or anything else? Batch ha...
Changing syntax and replacing exes with cmdlets
cedar igloo
I have a Supermicro server with a HP P420i RAID card (configured to RAID 0). I am wanting to boot to an OS which is installed onto the logical volume however it doesnt show in the boot options or BIOS. Does anyone have any ideas on how to boot to the logical volume?
plain siren
I have a Supermicro server with a HP P420i RAID card (configured to RAID 0). I ...
I would move away from the Raid Card's Configured RAID and Move to a diff RAID like Storage Spaces, md raid, ZFS Raid (These 2 linux), etc
But to answer, It most likely needs drivers
Or, its the CSM/UEFI/Legacy shenanigans
cedar igloo
I believe (may be wrong) that i need to use the RAID card as I am using 3x SAS drives unless there is a way to just disable the RAID
by this, i mean passthrough the drives as if they were like sata
plain siren
Does it let you just... not configure RAID and pass through drives
If you just dont config it
cedar igloo
I'm not sure. tbh, I am doing all the configuration through ESXI loaded with the configuration utility, so it takes a while to do anything
plain siren
I'm not sure. tbh, I am doing all the configuration through ESXI loaded with th...
Is there a JBOD option
cedar igloo
In the BIOS? no
cedar igloo
Does it let you just... not configure RAID and pass through drives
Are you suggesting to just delete the logical volume? or is there more to it than just that?
plain siren
Are you suggesting to just delete the logical volume? or is there more to it tha...
esxcli hpssacli cmd -q “controller slot=0 modify hbamode=on forced try this
cedar igloo
I thought hba mode would make it worse
ill give it a go. have no data to lose
oh... I have been thinking i have the P420i but I actually have the H240. It didnt like that hbamode command so am double checking it actually supports it
it definitely supports it. just dont know why the command doesnt work - "Error: hbamode is not supported on this controller"
cedar igloo
Ok, HBA mode is enabled. Needed to specify raidmode=off rather than hbamode=on
just rebooting to see if it works now
it's in HBA mode but still nothing in BIOS or boot menu
plain siren
it's in HBA mode but still nothing in BIOS or boot menu
hmm
So it turns out ESXi Doesnt Support HBA Mode
On that controller
cedar igloo
but it doesnt show in bios either
plain siren
Which is like... trash
cedar igloo
surely the drives would be bootable from the bios?
or have i got this all wrong?
because my aim is to get something like xcp-ng or ubuntu to boot
I am just using esxi to configure the controller as I have it installed on a usb
plain siren
I am just using esxi to configure the controller as I have it installed on a usb
Looks like your controller has all sorts of funky things that cause issues:
For one: Looks like you cant boot directly to the controller, you would have to load up a "Proxy" OS like Linux that would redirect to that Controller
cedar igloo
is that configuration or the controller?
cedar igloo
sorry, where would i find this? I don't have easy physical access to the machine
cedar igloo
shell access of esxi itsself is enough i believe
any idea of the command?
low pond
possibly MGA G200eW WPCM450 if thats a motherboard
seems like a onboard VGA controller
It says it's on the GUI itself
tame carbon
@plain siren RIP Freenode
Mr Lee has sought to assert total legal control over the network, including user data. Despite our best efforts, the legal advice the freenode staff has obtained is that the contract signed by the previous head of staff cannot be fought with a reasonable likelyhood of success.
One american loser, wrecking one of the oldest safe havens for FOSS
all of the staff has resigned
and they started a new network
low pond
<@!589542595341058048> RIP Freenode
can u explain what happened
tame carbon
@low pond click that link, and you will find out
low pond
Oh no :/
plain siren
<@!589542595341058048> RIP Freenode
Its not gonna go away nor is it prob going to be fully sunsetted.
I also presume the data is in some sort of Static Encryption state that would prevent an analysis by some BigData/Marketing Engine, the data is prob only good for being used as an IRC Node
plain siren
sorry, where would i find this? I don't have easy physical access to the machin...
Sigh, So I have come to the conclusion of the following:
Any drives on that controller is basically only good for DAATA
Using it as a Boot drive is basically... err
cedar igloo
do you recommend any other controllers? if thats the case, i might just switch it out
plain siren
YES!
low pond
I also presume the data is in some sort of Static Encryption state that would pr...
wouldnt they give the keys along also lel
plain siren
wouldnt they give the keys along also lel
They prob didnt give them in a manner it could be used with other toolkits, prob some lazy transfer with just the keys in a db
low pond
I mean the new owner is a VPN owner, he may be a bit smort (or his team) to use it in whatever way they'd like for analysis or so
plain siren
I mean the new owner is a VPN owner, he may be a bit smort (or his team) to use ...
Tbh anyone couldve scraped the entire freenode net to do that so yeah, but I think its prob the framework and edge networks PIA Wanted to use for Commercial and Public(PR) divulge
Freenode was... aging on its current host assets
low pond
Interesting, for reals I actually don't know freenode very well really
tame carbon
@plain siren most of the staff jumped ship
and they founded irc.libera.chat
this time as a registered non-profit
and not a private holding
gritty valley
I mean with Andrew and money now involved - things gonna go bad
plain siren
and not a private holding
THIS Is what really mattered
plain siren
do you recommend any other controllers? if thats the case, i might just switch ...
So, honestly you should stick with LSI
cedar igloo
Sorry, that means nothing to me. Please could you explain what that means 🙂
plain siren
HP P220i is way better than that one you have and works with HBA + Better performance
LSI Megaraid 9261-8i or -4i
9361
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DFG7CK7/ < even this damn thing
cedar igloo
Don't suppose you could find a link to the LSI Megaraid 9261-4i. The 8i is rather expensive for my use case and cant find the 4i (maybe different model number?).
nvm
i didnt read the message after
but thats more expensive 😢
https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/lsi-megaraid-sas9271-4i-zm-pcie-x8-fh-sas-raid-controller
Would this work better? It's much cheaper as its used
low pond
DAMN that mini PCIe lane path looks so satisfying
plain siren
https://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/lsi-megaraid-sas9271-4i-zm-pcie-x8-fh-sas-raid...
Yeah it would work, I would check ESXi's Compat list tho
gloomy saffron
help
gloomy saffron
please this is awful
low pond
what are you pinging to?
lean pebble
Hello
gloomy saffron
@low pond rust
low pond
Oh :/
low pond
😠
lean pebble
waxen scroll
lean pebble
Hey lzdandger
low pond
Hey
lean pebble
Olas
low pond
éRíŃà
gloomy saffron
ok my internet is really bad and my brother says its my pc because his internet if fine is that a possibility?
lament night
Hi, yes
Will someone please tell me
Why the deco software is so fucking buggy
none of the decos are experiencing problems why does it say that
Also when I try to toggle on high priority and close the app it just causally toggels it bacchon off like wtf
lament night
Huh?
lament night
all the walls in my house are foot thick concrete i dont really have any other option
peak cloak
You do
lament night
and the wifi works pre gud its the app thats buggy
peak cloak
Mesh uses wifi to communicate between them
peak cloak
all the walls in my house are foot thick concrete i dont really have any other o...
Power line or running Ethernet with multiple aps
lament night
so what do you propose i use
lament night
Power line or running Ethernet with multiple aps
really you want me to run a 30 mtr line to the roof office?
lament night
I did
because believe it or not i did that
but the cable is not working for some reason
peak cloak
Recrimp it?
lament night
it goes in the concrete so we cant even remove it
peak cloak
Check the pair continuity?
lament night
no i know whats wrong
just that fixing it will take 10 weeks and also id have to break the east side of the house
peak cloak
10 weeks !!
lament night
the cable got cut in the middle sumwhere
lament night
so you know... mesh
lament night
Run another one?
i have 5 devices, and i need internet to all of them at the same time
and a tv
so i just placed decos and pulled a line from the deco in my room to my pc
works fine i guess
could have worked better imo
peak cloak
I have ethernet run everywhere
As needed
Tv, both parent's offices
Pc, brothers pc
To an ap in the middle of the house
lament night
wuts ur bandwith speed
peak cloak
300/300
From the isp
Have a hex s router
And some dlink poe managed switch
And a eap225 for wifi
lament night
i have 200/200 no poe
peak cloak
Well internet isn't poe
lament night
Well internet isn't poe
routers ate
peak cloak
I have poe to power my upstairs switch and ap
lament night
I have poe to power my upstairs switch and ap
aah. i just use wall power lmao
peak cloak
Because there are only 2 lines going upstairs
So I have a poe powered switch in the wall
peak cloak
lament night
do i just buy another deco?
peak cloak
No clue
lament night
hmmm mayb ill just move them around
tender hazel
OSPFv3 is even more broken in routeros 7.1beta6 than it was in 7.1beta5
lone sun
🤣 Does CartonWaffle live in a reinforced bunker?
plain siren
OSPFv3 is even more broken in routeros 7.1beta6 than it was in 7.1beta5
😦 IPv6 gets all the love
lone sun
Hard to troubleshoot with IPv6 using the pathping command for instance, since it only does three or four hops at most, versus IPv4 that does up to 10 hops. Its one major reason why I don't understand its appeal.
spice hawk
Not quite my final form yet, but I finally have it physically set up!
peak cloak
Hard to troubleshoot with IPv6 using the pathping command for instance, since it...
doubt thats the case
lone sun
doubt thats the case
🤔 Doubt whats the case?
peak cloak
🤔 Doubt whats the case?
"since it only does three or four hops at most"
lone sun
"since it only does three or four hops at most"
🤷♂️ That's what it showed last I did it. I'll do it again just to be sure. The hops were way less.
peak cloak
🤷♂️ That's what it showed last I did it. I'll do it again just to be sure. The...
yeah... that's just less hops
nothing negative lol
I do not understand your logic
just did a v6 traceroute and it's more than 5 hops
that has nothing to do for pro/con v6
lone sun
I do not understand your logic
Well, I just did it for google, seven hops, versus ten. So if an issue arises, and you see packet loss, which one do you use?
peak cloak
?
just like v4
just because its less, how does affect anything
if anything
that's a benifit
tender hazel
many IPv6 destinations are fewer hops away than the equivalent IPv4 destination
lone sun
🤔 Right but...if for instance IPv6 says packet loss at hop 5, but IPv4 says hop 8..where do you start?
Twelve hops for google using v4. 🙃
tender hazel
they can be routed completely differently, so you could have packet loss on v6 and none on v4 or vice versa.
your v6 could go to a different datacenter entirely
lone sun
So, at that point it'd be a matter of finding out if the modem/router is using IPv6?
lone sun
Or does it matter?
copper rover
I've got a question about SSL certificates. Anyone well versed in them?
peak cloak
I've got a question about SSL certificates. Anyone well versed in them?
yeah I know a little, just ask
tender hazel
if you're troubleshooting packet loss for a specific application, find out whether that application is using v4 or v6 at the time and troubleshoot that
normally things are dual stack, and happy eyeballs can sometimes somewhat randomly decide to use ipv4 or ipv6 for a destination based on what seems faster to it at the moment
lone sun
That could be any application right? 🤔
tender hazel
yes
lone sun
I see
copper rover
yeah I know a little, just ask
Ok, so for an IIS server (Windows) I had to generate a CSR to get a cert created. No prob. Got it installed and working. Now it's about to expire...
So I downloaded the newer cert, but it thinks the server itself is the CA when I import it. The only way around this was to re-key the cert by generating another CSR.
Is that normal? Is a CSR have to be be generated for each cert?
tender hazel
but also if you see loss to an intermediate destination and it disappears afterwards, it isn't real loss
for instance if you see 25% loss or whatever to a certain hop, and that loss goes away in a future hop, it isn't real and should be ignored
lone sun
🤔 Hmm, I always tell people that if they see no packet loss pinging their modem, but they see it beyond their gateway using pathping, that the issue is not on their end.
If it is an issue at all I guess
peak cloak
🤔 Hmm, I always tell people that if they see no packet loss pinging their modem...
well it is
we are kinda rn talking on a internet scale
at home it will take the same path
lone sun
🤔 Right
tender hazel
what happens is many providers rate limit pings going to their devices, so if you ping them at a certain rate you will get a percentage loss.. this isn't real loss b/c you won't have packet loss for packets that are passing through the device, it is only pings to the device itself that will show that loss
if the loss appears in like hops 5-7 and goes away in hop 8, it means that the routers at hops 5-7 have ICMP rate limiting in place
I've had it happen quite a few times where we've had customers complaining about a non existent issue because they don't know how to interpret traceroute/MTR results
and they complain that some intermediate hop doesn't respond or shows loss
copper rover
W00t! Fixed an IPMI reporting issue on a Dell PowerEdge by resetting th iDRAC back to factory defaults 🙂
Hate those things
IDRACs
Unless Enterprise, then they're cool
lament night
🤣 Does CartonWaffle live in a reinforced bunker?
no, but nothing short of a bazooka can get through lmao atleast concrete walls dont fuken break when u punch them like drywall
lone sun
no, but nothing short of a bazooka can get through lmao atleast concrete walls d...
🙂 Right....well, I'd rather the outside be concrete, with the inside being dry wall if possible. Wifi is already very unreliable as is. Pretty shit technology really. Don't want to add insult to injury.
@tender hazel 🤔 Interesting...so its only if the packet loss is consistent beyond hops 5-7 that it becomes a problem?
tender hazel
if the packet loss is consistent beyond those hops in my example, it indicates that it is likely real packet loss, and not false packet loss created by ICMP rate limiting on those routers
you have to be able to differentiate between real packet loss and false packet loss indicators resulting from ICMP rate limiting
tame carbon
@tender hazel true packet loss is quite easy to see, any loss gained is consistent to any further hops
if its after the $isp router, then the only you can do is give an angry ringer to said $isp
I became an expert in packet loss when I was dealing with broken DSL lines
lament night
🙂 Right....well, I'd rather the outside be concrete, with the inside being dry ...
lmao bruh this is india no one uses drywall here
every house is brick and mortar
lament night
🙂 Right....well, I'd rather the outside be concrete, with the inside being dry ...
i know wifi is unteliable much sad
maybe lifi will pick up in the next few years
low pond
I don't think lifi or whatever would come out
Having a new standard implemted thruout the indistry is hard.
once you implemt a standard, and everyone follows it, bringing "better" versions of that is easier however,
But having a complete new standard, i doubt how well its gonna be implemted
plus, wifi6 exists if you want such good connectivity.
peak cloak
Still wifi6 won't help with wall penetration at all
gritty valley
afaik wifi6 has less wall penetration
lament night
Having a new standard implemted thruout the indistry is hard.
nvidia did it
with their stupid 12 pin connector
gritty valley
Dont many 3rd party cards still use 8+8 anyways?
lament night
Dont many 3rd party cards still use 8+8 anyways?
yea but founders is 12 pin
peak cloak
nvidia did it
I mean that's kinda ez
gritty valley
yea but founders is 12 pin
And hopefully Founders only...
peak cloak
Its just a connector
lament night
I mean that's kinda ez
dude but somehow innovation has to happen
peak cloak
Lifi is light based right?
lament night
we cant just be stuck on the same model of sharing
lament night
Lifi is light based right?
yea
low pond
dude but somehow innovation has to happen
Improvements can take place easier
peak cloak
Yeah I doubt seeing that being made commerically
low pond
Lifi is light based right?
"fiber over air" 🤣 nice "innovation"
peak cloak
Ikr
lament night
maybe 10 years from now gigabit internet will be only $20
lament night
That depends from regions to regions
rn here in bangalore its $50
gritty valley
laughs in 500/500 for 16Euros/month
nimble trail
Srsly??? How's the housing market lol
low pond
Well yeah, in parts of europe it is even as low as 20, my friend can get 10gbit for like 50 euros i believe or lesser
gritty valley
Not bad
nimble trail
at my current place 500/250 costs €60/mo
peak cloak
10 gig internet is overkill for home .
You can honestly argue gigabit is overkill
gritty valley
10 gig internet is overkill for home .
You can honestly argue gigabit is overkil...
agreed
lament night
at my current place 500/250 costs €60/mo
lmaoooo what bruhhh thats so much
peak cloak
Most people only use that bandwidth like 1% of the time
low pond
10 gig internet is overkill for home .
You can honestly argue gigabit is overkil...
Pretty much and we have no idea how messed up each hop is going to be when touching transits. You probably cant even use that 10gbit as much
lament night
10 gig internet is overkill for home .
You can honestly argue gigabit is overkil...
nothing is overkill when ur downloading warzone
nimble trail
gigabit is totally overkill unless you travel the high seas or download doom eternal every 30 minutes
lament night
rn i have 200/200 for 10 bucks
peak cloak
What, how does tranfering data over the ocean have to do anything with gigabit
nimble trail
I have 100/100 for ~€18/mo right now and that's low relatively to the rest of the market here
peak cloak
nothing is overkill when ur downloading warzone
You have to realize, at that point the isps peering connection and the download server will be your bottleneck
low pond
^
peak cloak
Its not that simple
lament night
You have to realize, at that point the isps peering connection and the download ...
the isps pre great and im assuming activision keeps high speed storig
peak cloak
No
Peering
Is expensive
They will overallocate
You won't get gigabit to everywhere
Because that's how the internet works
lament night
aah
gritty valley
imo most bottlenecks are ISPs own backbones to exchange
peak cloak
Idk, I don't work for an isp
gritty valley
Same, just my uneducated guess
low pond
imo most bottlenecks are ISPs own backbones to exchange
That's not where it ends, it can go even further
IP transits in its own dont support full connectiity between them
lean pebble
Someone knows a good company that provides storage servers that are not to expensive? In Europe.
low pond
Someone knows a good company that provides storage servers that are not to expen...
Hetzner 60 euros 64TB
lean pebble
Hetzner 60 euros 64TB
They don't have it right now
gritty valley
IP transits in its own dont support full connectiity between them
Yeah, was about to say that backhauls between exchanges even can bottleneck it all
low pond
And it usually does the more far away you go, because you touch more cables and you have no guarntee that "high" speed would be avaible
even if your ISP does 100Gbps to cogent, and then you are sure your ISP isnt doing weird throttling to ur side or say you are at your ISP's core, till the time you touch your end desitnation it wont remain 100Gbps all time
ISP's do buy all transit in bulk, but its not to deliver traffic "one location" anywya, its usually to multiple places (as multiple people are there) and thats how the 100gbps is saturatd
so technically 10Gbps is good at a home if you have a lot of family members living and they all use it, even then 1Gbps realstically is enough but instead of a house you can imagine a mall or school etc
where they are not looking for 10Gbps from one serverm rather multiple people connecting to multiple different servers around
peak cloak
Well yeah a 10 gig connection is good for a place with a lot of people
Something like a school for example
low pond
mmyes
and this is also a stupidly bare truth to the "fastest" internet in the world and people be like: i want it its so cool
(the whole ip transit explaination)
low pond
pretty much, but interesting d:
gritty valley
You also forgot to account to packetloss and throttling due to routers/switches in middle 😄
low pond
Throttling yes, thats the part where the fiber connections in between two routers in ip transit can go small
packet lost, eh, that doesnt really happen with a reliable enough connection
Speed is the hard thing, but packet delivery isn't really as hard actually
gritty valley
Still happens
low pond
probably after all the ISP stuff, as ISP's can be really different, but at least general IP transits we see today they aren't as unrealible
gritty valley
Sure, yes, Im just talking about the picture as a whole not just point-to-point between client and ISP
peak cloak
I doubt packetloss really happens much
low pond
even then in a normal day I don't think we should be seeing packet loss or so, it's not suppost to happen no matter if you pay for a Mbit connection or the best premium stuff
peak cloak
If you see loss using something like ping or tr, it most likely just icmp rate limiting
gritty valley
Well yeah, Im not saying it happens often and whatnot, Im just saying that nothing is 100% reliable 🤷♂️
low pond
Exactly, usually in tracerouters you see routers in between in loss but as long as the end IP your reaching has no loss then it's not being lost
low pond
Well yeah, Im not saying it happens often and whatnot, Im just saying that nothi...
they are suppost to be 99.9% reliable tho 🙂
gritty valley
they are suppost to be 99.9% reliable tho 🙂
But that 0.1% where things go wrong - packets go missing (due to failover and so on)
Anyhow - thats just beeing picky af on my part 😄
peak cloak
Yeah, but still don't make a big dent
low pond
That's cogent promise
Sure nothing is 100% reliable, but it shouldnt mean that u see packet lose every damn day xD
if you do then,, yeah.
gritty valley
Im not saying every day - Im saying its a possibility 😄
lean pebble
Sounds good 100% network availability
Can I have it to ?
🤣
Mine is 55% availability until I start download files
gritty valley
Ready to pay good sum for it?
low pond
Exactly. That's after your crappy ISP;'s, that's a IP transit
lean pebble
Ready to put fiber from your country to my house in different country?
lean pebble
😆
low pond
go kiss your Dial up line
lean pebble
Only 250k miles I think
lean pebble
go kiss your Dial up line
Hahaha go kiss the dust rust
peak cloak
just get a business connection
lean pebble
Nah not worth it
lean pebble
It's *99 the price I'm paying now
lean pebble
You think me routing fiber to you is "worth" it
Well you're closer than North America
Google already doing it
peak cloak
Nah not worth it
why
peak cloak
Google already doing it
low pond
Does he mean undersea cables
low pond
well
Whatever it is, its expensive than "putting fiber from my country to your house in a different countror
low pond
for
lean pebble
50/50
low pond
wtf, what?
low pond
so how much do you get for what price
low pond
^internet dedicated price
where is that
lean pebble
I'm paying 120 ils that 37$ a month
peak cloak
where is that
that's prob just the price per month, not even installation or anything but verizon
lean pebble
For 40/4
peak cloak
lean pebble
I'm not in the US
low pond
yeah, I see it's after ISP's but technically we are talking dedicated. 800 is enough for 10Gbps at ip transits itself
peak cloak
yeah
lean pebble
4MBps download on 0.5 upload
peak cloak
oohh bruh u can get a decent gayming pc lol
welcome to enterprise pricing
low pond
Forgot to add ™️
lament night
loll verizon be pulling out those fat stacks
peak cloak
not really
lament night
i have act fibrenet here
low pond
loll verizon be pulling out those fat stacks
Any ISP. Jio at your country too
lean pebble
Lol here they even not publishing the internet price for dedicated / business plans
lament night
Any ISP. Jio at your country too
jio is cheap as fuck and you get a free 40 inch tv with ur connection
peak cloak
jio is cheap as fuck and you get a free 40 inch tv with ur connection
we are talking about enterprise internet
low pond
Check Jio, they have same rates around India, Last time i checked ACT They had cheaper rates in Chennai specifically but expensvide on other cities
lament night
*we are talking about enterprise internet*
ooooohhh the one that companies useeee
okokok my bad srry lol
low pond
Well that's technically the one your ISP itself uses 😛
But yeah, Datacenters directly use this
low pond
yea, I see