networking

[buoyant shell]

What is this settings? and should I change it?

[tame carbon]

that should be auto negotiate

[buoyant shell]

alr thanks

Ik Ik it sounds dumb but I just heard a thing on tik tok about it and just wanted to know what it is their for

[tame carbon]

wat xD

[buoyant shell]

Lol they said u can get more speed and I got confused how

[tame carbon]

@buoyant shell https://i.imgur.com/jTaWTSs.png

[buoyant shell]

Yea i shoulda used common sense

[peak cloak]

you can't lol

[tame carbon]

@buoyant shell auto negotiate just picks the best available speed for the link

[buoyant shell]

oh ok

[tame carbon]

if both sides are gigabit, it will do that

@buoyant shell if say, one of the 8 wires in the cable was broken

[strong mulch]

I apologize if this isn't the place to ask this but I'm having some I think its networking issues with Forza Horizon 4, and when i go to check Xbox Networking it says something about Teredo is unable to qualify, and I can't fix it with Microsoft's reccomendations?

[buoyant shell]

50 down and 10 up

[tame carbon]

it wouldnt be able to do gigabit, and it falls back to 100M

fast ethernet needs 4 wires, gigabit needs all 8

10Gbit is another standard, and so is 2.5G and 5G

[buoyant shell]

Darn yea I just CAT 6 installed in my room and im blown away

I used a wifi extender before

[peak cloak]

anything above 10gig use fiber

[tame carbon]

yeah 10G on cat6a ~ up to 25 meters

[peak cloak]

or even 10gig

[tame carbon]

beyond that, use fiber optics.

[peak cloak]

use fiber

[tame carbon]

Fiber optics can go for many kilometers

and go up to insanity speeds

10G, 25G, 40G, 100G, 200G or even 400G

and thats a single color of light

you can then put 96 colors on a single fiber, for practically infinite bandwidth

with 100G, that's 9.6tbit/s

this is mostly used for trans-atlantic fiber optics and long haul fiber

@buoyant shell 10G can be nice at home, if you have a NAS that is very fast

its still somewhat affordable

once you go to faster link speeds, it gets expensive really quickly

@peak cloak btw, for short distances, copper is actually faster than fiber

those DACs have less latency

because there's one layer less of electronic switching logic

[peak cloak]

yeah

well also electron are technically faster than light in a fiber

[tame carbon]

nothing is faster than light

oh

ok

xD

@peak cloak actually that is not true either

electrons move at quite a snail pace

but charge potentials can spread way faster

[peak cloak]

huh

[tame carbon]

Drift velocity, the average speed at which electrons travel in a conductor when subjected to an electric field, is about 1mm per second.

the change of the electric field traverses the wire much faster

@peak cloak its not really electrons moving per-se

its more that there's an imbalance in charge

and this causes current to flow

but the actual movement of electrons is really slow

this imbalance in charge

is electric potential

and that's measured in Volt

[buoyant shell]

I’m just happy I have 50 down and 10 up I had 10 down and 1 up before

[tame carbon]

Nicee

@buoyant shell I was on 4/0.6 for many years

and I've worked with dial up systems before xD

and yes, this is still operational, though I no longer work for that company

@peak cloak https://i.imgur.com/j1UhoUs.png

[buoyant shell]

Old Speedtest but still gold

https://www.speedtest.net/result/i/4020162796

[tame carbon]

speedtest slow

can barely keep up

@buoyant shell https://www.speedtest.net/result/11253160776.png

[buoyant shell]

🥜

[tame carbon]

fastest access I have

[buoyant shell]

CAT 8?

[tame carbon]

no this is in a big rack in a datacenter

and thats all fiber optics

[buoyant shell]

Darn

[peak cloak]

has nothing to do with the cable lol

[buoyant shell]

Idk bro

[tame carbon]

@buoyant shell copper is just consumer market

[buoyant shell]

I see fast internet and it makes me happy

[tame carbon]

enterprise is all different technology

but uses same standards as the home stuff

just different connectors and cable types

[lean pebble]

Yo

[acoustic horizon]

Glad I could help. Hope it works out. I work in fintech aws-based shop myself, feel free to ask things if you have questions

[outer nebula]

I do hope so! how hard is it to work with aws?

[acoustic horizon]

well. it's not. in onprem you would be ordering and assembling and maintaining hardware whereas with cloud it's a click of a button (or more accurately a line in your terraform code)

consider signing up for aws free tier

[ancient osprey]

Okay this is a rea dumb question, but with a cloud hosted OpenVPN can I bypass streaming restrictions? If so how? Please @me if you could…

[thick minnow]

You could, but if you use a really well know cloud provider it couldd detect that you're using a VPN and I suggest using Wireguard over OpenVPN and changing the default port

As for setting it up, there are plenty in this server who can help

especially in this channel

[rose sparrow]

Hey!
Can someone please check where's the bottle neck.

I am using a CAT5 cable (30m) to get connection from one room to another. I have routed the cable from the exterior of my building.

First of the connection being established is 100 mbit full duplex. Both the routers are gigabit. I can understand this may be due to poor quality of the wire

Next for local file transfer via SMB or FTP, I am getting full 100mbps but for internet, I am getting only 20mbps
I have a 200mbps connection... Checked it n-number of times, it is working great.

I tired changing both the primary and secondary routers.. still the same.

Tried connecting one end directly to the Cable modem and other end to my pc, still getting the same 20mbps speed

Can someone please tell where might be the bottle neck?
If i am getting 100mbps for local file transfer. I should get 100mbps net speed too. But I am getting 20

[ancient osprey]

What’s the difference?

[thick minnow]

Wireguard is. a newer protocol, with higher bandwidth, if that's what you're asking

[unkempt birch]

@rose sparrow have you tried going into your admin access via you IP address and mess with some settings in there?I had an issue where my wireless adapter wasn’t connecting to my Verizon AC router. As it turns out there was a setting in my router preventing a proper connection with a specific band for the WiFi. Once I turned the setting off I was able to get my speeds from ~60 ish mbps to ~230 mbps on a Verizon Fios 500 mbps connection. This was because the setting was limiting the bands that the ac WiFi was putting out. So instead of properly connecting to an ac band it connected to an N band resulting in lower speeds. Of course this was over WiFi so if you are talking about a wired connection this information may not be relevant at all.

[ancient osprey]

Pretty much. I hate companies having my data, but I also hate streaming restrictions so I just want to either pay for a decent VPN or create my own. I’m using PIA right now, but it’s honestly not my favorite thing for bypassing restrictions

[robust plinth]

I mean if you really hate companies having your data, I wouldn't say PIA is your way of going. Yes they claim to "not" safe or have data. But remember they're a US base company and if government wanted information they're at will to collected / share.

[ancient osprey]

Yeah, my time with them is at an end and I want to be able to bypass streaming restrictions and still have a good VPN. I was looking at either doing my own using Linode or using something like PrivateVPN. Thoughts??

[robust plinth]

If anything, I would recommend hosting your own vpn 😄

Cause doing that your at well... At your own risk / will 😄

[ancient osprey]

Lmao, that is the dream, but I’m like which would be better in the long run?

[robust plinth]

Hosting your own is a fun project, but remember you're one trouble shooting / doing maintenance.

I sometime host my own, but then I get lazy to maintenance it... So I jump from that to ExpressVPN

[ancient osprey]

How is ExpressVPN compared to PrivateVPN?

[robust plinth]

Speeds for one, are alot better on ExpressVPN

If you want pre-speed NordVPN wireguard tech is good. But has it down falls I'm sure you're aware of.

Like them storing your IP.

[ancient osprey]

What’s the streaming restrictions bypass like?

Sorry I ask a lot of questions. Just would rather have a customers opinion than a company

[robust plinth]

Nah you're good hehe. In my point of view its good, it has it's ups and downs, but I've notice alot better output on ExpressVPN vs PIA when it comes down to netflix.

I use it all time for HBO and netflix 😛

[ancient osprey]

Lmao, I was jus about to ask. PrivateVPN is looking like a good option, but like idkkkkk. I want as little of my data out there as possible, ya know? What are you thoughts?

[robust plinth]

I mean most paid vpn's will always have their own hit or miss. If your data means alot there isn't anything like hosting your own VPN.

[ancient osprey]

I mean I’m fine giving up some data, but when it comes to reliable streaming restrictions bypass I wanna know it’s secure and it will work

Nord bad. Nord very bad right?

[dusk oasis]

Hi

Should I need a modem for this router ? Mikrotik hAP AC2

[lean pebble]

Morning

[lean pebble]

Ivacy sometimes works for bypass

Last time I used it it worked perfectly fine

[robust plinth]

morning!

I personally haven't try Ivacy myself.

[lean pebble]

I have it for 5 years 😆

Used 15 times

[robust plinth]

@ancient osprey nordvpn one of first to host wireguard protocols. They call it "nordlynx"

@lean pebble I do that, I sometime forget about my vpn lol

[lean pebble]

But the only issue I had with them is configuration on Linux because they don't have their software for Linux.

That's why I started to use private proxy server on my own server

Squid

[robust plinth]

yea, same with expressvpn

no Linux software

[lean pebble]

I tried expressvpn was awful

[robust plinth]

hehe

[lean pebble]

Ivacy offers you dedicated IP if you need it

[robust plinth]

yea I've used nordvpn dedicated for awhile

[lean pebble]

I tried from Hong Kong was awful ping 😆

[robust plinth]

oh yea, that firewall tricky on vpn. You need find one that works well 😄

[lean pebble]

I didn't noticed that they included it in the price of the sale.

So I asked them to cancel only the dedicated IP address

Oh gosh my full stack teacher compiling html file
😂

[robust plinth]

oh boy hehe

[jaunty talon]

Anyone here have a VPN setup that you use a idP wth SAML for authentication (with 2FA)? And in case you have, which product do you use?

[ruby bramble]

Dual 5gb ethernet next to my school desk

[bright prawn]

looks great

almost as good as the ethernet ports kids in my middle school would stab to death and open with pencils

[ruby bramble]

Whyyyy

[bright prawn]

idk

they were bored

plus it was like 1gig at best

[ruby bramble]

Unfortunately cat 5 cant do 10gb

[bright prawn]

it was usually around 80-100 megabit

nobody used the school ethernet anyways

i jacked my own internet to the school computers so i could get past the website block

they didn't even allow us to play flash games

[ruby bramble]

Ouef

[tame carbon]

10kV anti-tamper system

[bright prawn]

zap dem kids

[vestal surge]

What does a ubiquit controller look like with non-unifi switches? Does it break anything?

Or would it still see clients on the side of the switch?

[tame carbon]

@vestal surge depends

if you are using vlans, you might want to get a managed switch

brand doesnt really matter

[vestal surge]

Yeah I've got a managed switch on the way because unifi is out of stock

[tame carbon]

its all standardized anyways

[vestal surge]

Uplink will have two vlans, managed switch will send one out to one client and the other out to three

[thick minnow]

i cant login to to my nas anymore

[thick minnow]

OH

[peak cloak]

What type of internet access do you have rn

Dsl?

Check you existing network

Is there a modem?

What type of cable goes into the current router

If it's ethernet your good

If it's something like a phone line then the setup could get a bit more involved

[ruby bramble]

Or fiber

We went from adsl to fiber recently

[peak cloak]

I have fiber too

But the ont converts it to ethernet

So no fiber to the router itself

[ruby bramble]

Our router dirctly does fiber fiber however that goes to our swich and is then converted to ethrnet so the oposite

[thick minnow]

can someone please help with my nas

[ruby bramble]

Wats the problem?

[thick minnow]

its a netgear readynas duo v2

[ruby bramble]

Ok

Whats the problem?

[thick minnow]

i need login and password on the management page

but i dont have any

[ruby bramble]

Try admin admin

[tame carbon]

[thick minnow]

didnt work

[empty sinew]

Google your specific model, there are usually websites with common usernames and passwords (default)

[peak cloak]

Do you have data on it?

[thorny vector]

Per it's documentation, default login is admin:password

https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/READYNAS ARM-PLATFORM (DUO V2, NV+ V2)/RAIDiator 5.3 SW Manual_5Sep12.pdf

[thick minnow]

i just got it 2nd hand

[peak cloak]

Factory reset it

[ruby bramble]

Chck the stickr on the bottom

[thick minnow]

doesnt say anything special

just the model

[thick minnow]

how?

RAIDar does say its ok

[empty sinew]

There's usually a thin button

If you press and hold it, it should factory reset

[thick minnow]

i already pressed the reset button

[peak cloak]

You have to hold it

Look at the manual

[thick minnow]

i did

readycloud cant even find my nas

[dusk oasis]

5 gigabit?

Wow!

[peak cloak]

5gb? doubt

rate limiting and qos exists

and a school prob has 1 10g link

[thick minnow]

networking in schools is almost always shit

[empty sinew]

y e s

[peak cloak]

because you have like a 10g or less upstream for like hundreds of devices

plus it usually goes over a dedicated fiber to the main school first

before being routed to the internet

[thick minnow]

and it always looks like this

[peak cloak]

not at mine lol

or blobs

we have cisco meraki for wifi

like one AP in each room

[clear igloo]

Hey now, someone tried!

to make it look bad 😛

[peak cloak]

there's this cool web ui at like http://10.128.128.128

[clear igloo]

yup @peak cloak

I'm blanking on the other address but yah, you can see signal strength and other stats of the connected AP

[peak cloak]

yep

and a speed test

usually it's perfectly fine

[thick minnow]

ahh yes, nothing

[peak cloak]

24 mbps

[peak cloak]

yes, it's a private ip

only if you are internally connected

[tame carbon]

Anyone know if it is possible, to use this ONT https://www.goamt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/7368_ISAM_ONT_G-240G-A_AMT.pdf

for pure telephone service?

instead of plugging the ONU directly into the ONT, we'd have it in a switch, doing VLAN offhanding

and use it only for POTS

Stupid Telus' 1.5G service

on a device with only 1G ports.

[ruby bramble]

Its 5gb ish to other pcs

Our school only has giabit

[dusk oasis]

It shows it is an access point , not a router!

@tame carbon @peak cloak

[tame carbon]

@dusk oasis routing is done in software.

[dusk oasis]

Is it an actual router

[tame carbon]

every device can route, it uses the CPU for that

it can route up to 2gbit/s

[peak cloak]

yes

[tame carbon]

@dusk oasis https://i.imgur.com/m4IU8ex.png

[dusk oasis]

My connection is Fiber optic cable!

[peak cloak]

but do you have an ONT?

or does it go directly into directly current router

an all-in-one

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak I called Telus lol

asking them what this BS is with 1.5G service on a 1G ONT

They wouldnt give me any details without a stupid customer reference.

Pricks.

[peak cloak]

ah

[thick minnow]

ah

Albert Heijn

[tame carbon]

and if they plug the GPON directly into another device

they loose phone service

so its either 1G + phone, or 1.5G and no phone

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak basically: https://i.imgur.com/Sp9CIe9.png

but with indian tech support (sounded like it)

you are kinda hopelessly doomed.

unless there's a literate senior support person

https://i.imgur.com/NX4qGmv.png

useless.

Doesnt even support LACP

[austere veldt]

Hi! So i have an old TP-Link Access Point that supports multiple SSID mode. In order to use 2 SSIDs on different VLANs, do I need a switch aswell to make the 2 VLANs work? Because I tried to set it up and got wifi on one SSID/VLAN but not on the second one

[tame carbon]

@austere veldt does it even support vlans?

you need a vlan capable router

and switch

[austere veldt]

Yes, on the setup page of the AP, it allows me to choose the VLAN for each SSID

[tame carbon]

vlans are just a header in the ethernet frame

some unmanaged switches strip these vlan headers

so its usually best you use switches that have explicit support for vlans

you need to set up a trunk to the AP

[austere veldt]

'aight, thanks for the tip! I'll look into it

[tame carbon]

basically, you need a switch, that has the vlans you need configured on the port that goes to the AP

and then the other port to your router, also needs those vlans configured

the router, then has a subnet and address on each vlan

so it can route packets out

[outer nebula]

I might just do that! sadly i wont have this laptop for the whole period so signing up would a challenge itself. I do appreciate de recommendation!

[acoustic horizon]

also

I have to say that cloud/devops is free money as a job

The shortage of qualified personnel made the salaries skyrocket.

If you're semi-decent companies will be at each other's throats with competing offers to get you.

[outer nebula]

I'm also following up this guy on youtube called NetworkChuck that given me the first insights of cloud/devops

[outer nebula]

I have noticed that with interview, they are willing to hire people to little to no knowledge but with the condition of being determined to learn and cooperate (entry level as they also said).

[peak cloak]

what AP?

I might have the same one

[acoustic horizon]

As a team lead who's hiring for a member, I approve of this approach.

[austere veldt]

It's a TL-WA701ND

[peak cloak]

ah

I have an EAP

setup vlans on that

[tame carbon]

same with my recent job interview

we mostly used business terms and didnt talk much about technical skills

I was asked if I was willing to learn full stack development, ontop of my existing backend experience

to which I agreed

FREE TRAINING

milk it

work paying you to learn something? fuck, I used pay for this as a student. Sign me up

[waxen scroll]

[frigid pine]

https://c.tenor.com/cNnWTqiM1F0AAAAM/silent-tears.gif

[little schooner]

which one of you said hardware offloading routers were better than pfsense ones for gig speed? you were right from the beginning. I upgraded to 800 mbps plan at a reasonable price ($69.99) compared to last year ($129.99) and I couldn't even get more than 350 mbps.

I connected directly to the modem and was pulling the full speed. I went ahead and bought a new Edgerouter. I want my full speed...

@waxen scroll omg ever since the new local fiber company rolled out their cheap internet access in the neighborhood, Comcast prices actually make sense again!

thank goodness for competition

[waxen scroll]

some how internet only prices in my area make sense too

theres no real competition yet

[peak cloak]

I think I did

which edgerouter?

make sure to turn on hardware offload

for full speeds

[tame carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-laughing-meme-j-jonah-jameson-peter-parker-gif-8872690

@little schooner that would be me

@little schooner join the dark side, get a mikrotik

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner dont

edgerouter isnt even cloud managed

[peak cloak]

edgerouters barely get updates

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner i said that

i said that pfsense = crap

i said why use clunky dells to run your home network that burn power

i said it all

@little schooner you saying i was right?

[tame carbon]

[little schooner]

I was implying that my decision to go pfsense was bad lol

[waxen scroll]

@little schooner run a packet flood test to the pfsense, you'll see the CPU spike 100% and the throughput is awful

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll how would I go about doing that

iperf?

[waxen scroll]

iperf might work, i had specialized tools when i did it

[little schooner]

@waxen scroll were those tools expensive?

[waxen scroll]

yes

flukes

[little schooner]

aww

I'd still be interested to know

maybe my net admin has one somewhere

[short condor]

Hi guys. I’m in a bit of a need. I have a networking setup atm that contains some unify products and some own-made. The setup is as follows. A modem connected to a pfSense-box that has a whole system vpn connection. To this pfsense box I have a ubiquiti USG Pro 4 connected. To that I have a 24 port poe switch from ubiquiti. To that I have a cloud key gen 2 plus and a nanoHD access point. Then everything is connected to the switch via cable. What I am trying to do Is remove the Usg pro 4 from the equation. I feel that the pfsense box is more than enough. The problem I have is when I remove the Usg by bypassing it and connecting the switch to the pfsense-box the everything gets inaccessible and I can not access anything. No interface or anything. What am I doing wrong?

[tame carbon]

:facedesk:

[waxen scroll]

LOL

@little schooner why u still workin at that school

[tame carbon]

@little schooner unifi expensive. for $199 you have 10G router

[waxen scroll]

@tame carbon and the ASICS for offloading

and line rate on all ports

[tame carbon]

@waxen scroll the 10G is kind a lie really

in realitty, you get at most 5G

if you use SFP+ as uplink

[little schooner]

that's terrible

[tame carbon]

because each of the 5 ports is a switching group connected at 2.5G

@little schooner but it has a 2gbit/s hardware offload for VPN

and a quadcore at 1.4GHz lol

if you use fastpath, its completely offloaded

but I've been able to do a bandwidth test to the router at full 10G

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo i know $8000 cisco routers with all gig interfaces that only do like 200mbit out of the box

[peak cloak]

so you were double NATing?

is the pfsense doing dhcp?

[short condor]

Yes it is.

[short condor]

Double nat?

[peak cloak]

you know what NAT is?

basically translates the one IP you get from ISP to your many LAN devices

[short condor]

Yes I know that. But it is in a hierarchy. Modem with its own 192.168.0.1, pfsense with its own 192.168.99.1 and UniFi with its own 192.168.100.1

Maybe I have set it up I a over complicated way.

[peak cloak]

is pfsense doing NAT?

[peak cloak]

yeah...

[short condor]

It is outbounding yes.

[peak cloak]

ok what happens if you get rid of USG and just connect to pfsense?

[peak cloak]

show output of ipconfig /all on windows

[short condor]

Everything is killed and I get no internet access on anything going out from the pfsense box.

[peak cloak]

well there must be a reason

@little schooner you know pfsense?

[short condor]

I think the problem lies in the UniFi setup.

[peak cloak]

but you just said you got rid of the USG?

[short condor]

I did and it didn’t give me internet. When I reconnect the Usg everything is working fine.

Maybe I have given the unifi setup a predefined ip? Is it possible to dhcp from the pfsense box?

[peak cloak]

ok, but for one just saying "it doesn't work" isn't really how you troubleshoot networks. For example you may be connected, but dhcp may not work. Or that you may have connection to the router, but not to the internet

[peak cloak]

what do your NAT rules look like

[short condor]

I have no connection to the modem, pfsense or UniFi when I disconnect the Usg.

[peak cloak]

you said pfsense has 192.168.99.1, on what interface? LAN or WAN?

[short condor]

It was a example

LAN

[peak cloak]

and the WAN interface address is a global IP?

[peak cloak]

ok, so you have like triple nat lol

[short condor]

The wan is given on .133 from the modem.

[peak cloak]

ok so in this configuration your "modem" is acting as a router

[short condor]

My modem is just the provider isp one. As it is internet over coaxial I can not remove it from the setup. It is just a dummy. Coaxial to Ethernet. Just sending the signal to the unit next in line. In this setup it is the pfsense box. I want all the routing to be done through the pfsense box as a base and the switch for connection.

[peak cloak]

but it's not, it is clearly doing NAT and DHCP at least

what you want later is to have the modem in passthough mode

to get rid of all it's routing

but that's not relavent right now

@short condor try changing NAT mode to hybrid

[short condor]

This is the “modem” setting

[peak cloak]

see it's being a router

so you actually had 3 routers

modem

[short condor]

So if I turn it off, what happens?

[peak cloak]

pfsense

[short condor]

Yea I understand that.

[peak cloak]

pfsense won't get an IP

what you need is for the modem to just passthough all it's traffic

for it to act as an actual modem

but first let's fix pfsense

[short condor]

Will that kill the “routing” possibility?

[peak cloak]

wdym?

[short condor]

If I connect the computer to the pfsense box directly everything works fine.

[peak cloak]

ohh

then what doesn't work?

@short condor I want you to try something, connect the pc to just pfsense directly on it's LAN interface and do ipconfig /all

in cli

[short condor]

Let me explain. If I connect my computer to the pfsense box directly I get internet. If I connect to the switch via the Usg connected to pfsense I get internet. If I connect the switch directly to the pfsense box and bypass the Usg then I don’t get internet on the lan ports of the switch.

[peak cloak]

ok so we need to troubleshoot

just speculating won't do anything

#networking message

[short condor]

Problem is everything is in the rackmount atm. I’ll have to reconnect. Give me a few minutes. 👌🏻

Can’t access my windows machine for some reason. VNC won’t connect. No screen connected to it.

[short condor]

What do you want me to give you? Some of the addresses are not supposed to be public on the internet right? 😅

I have a print-screen of the /all command on my windows machine.

[peak cloak]

the output of it

yes they are called private ips

not routable over the internet

[short condor]

So a print screen is the output does not contain any personal information accessible from the outside?

[peak cloak]

no, it shouldn't. At most domain name, but if you didn't configure it it's not there

[short condor]

This is now connected with the Usg in place.

[peak cloak]

ok, what about pfsense?

and what is the pfsense dhcp range set to?

[short condor]

192.168.102.10 - 192.168.102.254

And “enable dhcp server on LAN interface” is checked.

Is it possible to make the UniFi setup to get a ip via dhcp? Maybe I have assigned the switch a static ip range.

[peak cloak]

switch should get IP by dhcp by default

but switch's IP shouldn't matter

even if it's invalid

[peak cloak]

show this, but directly connected to pfsense instead

[peak cloak]

yes but the IP shouldn't matter to the actual functionality of switching. Yes the managment will be inaccessible but it should still switch packets

[short condor]

Can’t. I don’t have a screen on my rackmounted hardware. It is all over VNC. 😕

[peak cloak]

oh

what about ssh?

cli > gui on linux

[short condor]

This is what is setup under “wan” in UniFi

[peak cloak]

yep just standard stuff

nothing out of the ordinary

[short condor]

“Connection type” ipv4 is use dhcp

[peak cloak]

yes

[short condor]

Strange that it does not work.

[peak cloak]

your setup is all sorts of mess

3 routers doing NAT

[short condor]

Would not mind redoing everything

[peak cloak]

This is what be the ideal setup

@short condor

modem is in passthough mode

pfsense does all routing

what all-in-one modem do you have?

[short condor]

That is no problem. Easily done.

[peak cloak]

ah cool

that will give public IP to pfsense

[short condor]

Then the output in pfsense should be dhcp as it is now.

[peak cloak]

now I'm not too experienced with pfsense

[peak cloak]

wdym by output

LAN interface?

[short condor]

Yes sorry. LAN interface that will connect to the switch.

[peak cloak]

yeah

you can use any private subnet you want

Just you need to change the dhcp range as well as the router's ethernet interface IP

[short condor]

I think I have messed up something in the UniFi setup. I have given the UniFi setup 101.1 and pfsense is 102.1. Maybe that is making things messy.

[peak cloak]

yeah...

unifi kinda sucks anyway

[short condor]

Well, I’m already invested. I like their protect capability with the cameras and such.

[peak cloak]

idk

I wouldn't trust them

especially anything cloud connected

[short condor]

Well, it is possible to turn it off. But still.

What would be a good alternative then?

[peak cloak]

to what?

security?

routing?

switches?

[short condor]

Well, I have pfsense so I only need a switch and a access point.

[peak cloak]

pfsense has also gotten, ehh

from what I heard

[short condor]

Only reason I use it is because of whole network openvpn

[peak cloak]

I mean that can configured in linux

[short condor]

It gives me the full 500/500 that I pay for from my isp, even over vpn. So I am happy.

Btw! This is the “lan” interface config. Should it be static ip under ipv4 or should I check dhcp? 🤔

[peak cloak]

nah you are statically configuring the IP of pfsense

on the LAN interface

what are your dhcp settings just curious?

let's try something, disconnect the USG and directly connect the switch to pfsense

now on a computer do ipconfig /all

@short condor

[short condor]

Can it be done on Mac?

[peak cloak]

idk the mac eqivalent

[short condor]

Do I reboot any networking gear?

[peak cloak]

nah

for now

[peak cloak]

try ip a

or ifconfig

that's the linux eqivalent

[short condor]

ifconfig -a is the command.

[tame carbon]

ifconfig is old

wait macos

nvm

ip is the new command

[short condor]

Well, let’s see

[peak cloak]

ethernet?

or wifi

[short condor]

Wifi

[peak cloak]

ok shows it's active

[short condor]

I restarted my cloud key and I am restarting the switch. They still show the old ip 101

[peak cloak]

you aren't doing any vlan stuff right?

[short condor]

Nope.

Imagine if I fucked up even worse. 😅

[peak cloak]

try pinging 192.168.102.1

[short condor]

Now that I have restarted the cloudkey it shows the 102 ip. I’m waiting for the switch to boot

[peak cloak]

@tame carbon arp issue?

[tame carbon]

@short condor does everything break when you plug in a switch?

[short condor]

Okay, so I rebooted and now both switch and cloudkey get the 102 ip. I can access my VNC machine over internet no problem. Seems to have been the reboot that did it.........

[tame carbon]

wat

[short condor]

I have a problem though.....

No device is connected to my cloudkey....

[peak cloak]

No clue with unifi

Its annoying

Only have the flex mini

[short condor]

All of them got removed from my account...

[peak cloak]

why I avoid unifi

[short condor]

I removed the USG and now my devices are not adopted to my account anymore... I can’t access them.

[peak cloak]

Maybe ask in a unifi discord? I really don't know anything about unfi. I just keep my unifi controller on the same network as my usw flex mini

You know what

Maybe because the ip changed

Completely new network

@short condor maybe reset all of them?

[short condor]

-.- Reconfiguring everything is not what I need right now...

[peak cloak]

You know what

I think I have a solution

[short condor]

Throw everything in the garbage?

[peak cloak]

@short condor change the dhcp range, as well as the pfsense ip to the 192.168.101.x network

So I would do dhcp range: 192.168.101.100-192.168.101.254

And change the proxmox lan ip to 192.168.101.1

[short condor]

Yea, problem is I can not access anything anymore. All the wireless stuff are down.

[peak cloak]

Ethernet?

You have a laptop?

[short condor]

No ethernet port on the MacBook. 😅

[peak cloak]

That sucks

Ethernet laptop is essential for network troubleshooting

[short condor]

Well...

[peak cloak]

I always also keep one interface on my router untouched just so I can access it in case I lock myself out

[short condor]

I reinstalled the USG.

Someday I’ll wipe everything and then reinstalling. For now i at least know that pfsense is ok, the isp modem has pass through and that a reboot will fix most things. 😅 thanks for the help!

[fringe crow]

Work has wifi for employees because service sucks at the location... the wifi allows me to message and post on discord but not join chat rooms... how can I bypass this?

[little schooner]

things have been good here. It's highly likely they are making me full time very soon

[waxen scroll]

yeah i feel into that trap once

5 years later... i quit

[distant wedge]

Anyone here know wholesalers in Canada that sell the UDM?

[peak cloak]

UDM...

[plain siren]

https://www.deploydepot.ca/brands/Ubiquiti.html

Never used them myself but some Maple Syrup friends of mine says they good

https://tdlcanada.ca/ too

[dusk oasis]

@peak cloak

@tame carbon

Is mikrotik hAP ac2 designed as wifi router?

@peak cloak

[dusk oasis]

I just want to use it as a normal wifi router

I'm not going to buy mikrotik hAP ac2

It's an access point!

Not a wifi router

[plain siren]

Good job on making the distinction that most dont regarding Router vs AP
It can run routerboard and do routing

so its capable of being both

[dusk oasis]

Umm

[plain siren]

It can handle the routing or just be an AP

[dusk oasis]

Does the ISP's stock router enough for 300mbps?

[plain siren]

Thats a [need more information] question but "Yes" and "No" depending

I call their stock "routers" "AIO's" or "All in ones" because they are.. all in one units

They can do everything, but they do it all badly

[dusk oasis]

But I'm going to do normal uses

Not networking

[thick minnow]

Basically a "Jack of all trades, master of none" sorta situation

[plain siren]

If you tack on 10 Devices, 4 streaming lets say, about 50% of these AIO's choke from my visual experience.

If you have them where they get little to no airflow, they will choke regardless

[dusk oasis]

So what should I buy for normal uses

[plain siren]

Really the question is: is the AIO doing fine right now?

If it is, seems like its fitting your normal uses fine

[plain siren]

Exactly this

But they are more like the 5th down from Jack of all Trades

[dusk oasis]

4 mobile and a laptop on wifi, a tv and a pc on ethernet!

[dusk oasis]

But it's expensive

[plain siren]

Rental fee?

[dusk oasis]

Can I use the stock ISP's router

?

[plain siren]

I think you missed it, but thats what I call an ISP Stock router, an AIO.

So i was asking: is it working fine right now?

[dusk oasis]

I'm going to...

[plain siren]

If the stock ISP router is working fine

then dont change it

If its causing problems, then we need to change it

But until then, leave it be

[tame carbon]

@plain siren dont bother

he asked exactly the same questions yesterday

[plain siren]

thats why I left it open ended. "Is the ISP Router doing fine?"
That question has to be answered first

[tame carbon]

@plain siren btw I tried helping the guy with his Telus 1.5G

and he's not gonna get 1.5G service if he wants POTS

telus straight up ^

they dont have a better ONT for at least a couple months

[plain siren]

Yeah, I didnt realize he wanted POTS..

[tame carbon]

@plain siren how is voice handed over ?

could you just pass a vlan ?

[plain siren]

it is a VLAN actually

[tame carbon]

my idea was to get one of those mtiks ONU SFPs

and then using his mikrotik switch he bought

[plain siren]

You cant extract it however,

[tame carbon]

fuck

@plain siren another person used those nokia/alcatel ONTs in bonding mode

to get ~1.5gbit

with ports 1 & 4

[plain siren]

VLAN 885 is the VOIP and then you need the logon SIP creds

I did manage something really fun the other day

[tame carbon]

@plain siren what about bonding?

[plain siren]

I dont see how that would work out unless its bonding happening on ISP Side and Gateway

[tame carbon]

@plain siren no I ment, between the ONT and the switch

it has 4 LAN ports

https://www.goamt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/7368_ISAM_ONT_G-240G-A_AMT.pdf

this is the one

someone on reddit claimed to have done it this way

[plain siren]

OH

[tame carbon]

but I couldn't find any evidence to back this up

[plain siren]

They bonded the copper + fiber link?

[tame carbon]

yeah, so the ONT gets 2.5G in

so he used 2x 1G

[plain siren]

Horseshit.

They are lying

[tame carbon]

speedtests lol. fuck

[dusk oasis]

@tame carbon
But the setup is so complicated

[tame carbon]

@plain siren https://i.imgur.com/YgpoE2R.png

@plain siren "Bonding doesnt work" vs "It does work" in the same sentence

and unifi xD

[plain siren]

ok so this would not give full 2G

[tame carbon]

yeah except give you aggregated 1G

[plain siren]

yeah itll split the speed between the outputs 1G each when they negotiated 1g

but it wont properly bond switch

[tame carbon]

@plain siren and I spoke to Telus tech support, they are actual idiots

[dusk oasis]

I just need a good router for home uses , not a complicated network switch

[tame carbon]

they gave some cheap excuse that "you dont get more than 930mbit because our network is overloaded"

and

"1.5G is only when you use multiple computers" which is a fucking lie"=

ONT only does 1G

[plain siren]

930Mbit because their speed control on the GEM Ports cant get that detailed of resolution and they trim off the top headasses

[tame carbon]

no

@plain siren 930M, because they are on GIGABIT.

[plain siren]

I know but it should be 1000 although its not 100%

[tame carbon]

I seriously do not understand who thought it was a good idea to deliver 1.5G service to consumers

they can't handle the sp33d

if you just had an ONT with 2.5G negotiation

[plain siren]

If you calculate the additional overhead tacked on by streaming to normal use

Its almost dead on

Idea was good execution was

uhh

less than

[tame carbon]

you can say trash

[plain siren]

I was going for garbage

[tame carbon]

rubbish?

[plain siren]

road kill

[tame carbon]

@plain siren what I dont understand is... an ONT doesnt need to be complicated lol

it has to have two ports

a 1G ethernet for IPTV, and a 2.5G for data

[plain siren]

Actually an ONT isnt needed anymore in reality

[tame carbon]

GPON is just.. convolluted

[plain siren]

The new ON Model allows for Virtual ONT's

And they literally run in docker

[tame carbon]

@plain siren is there any "difficulties" with just delivering active fiber?

just good old DHCP over a vlan?

[plain siren]

Cost

Thats a dedicated pathway per subscriber

[tame carbon]

why is it always money

always.

@plain siren I get to deal with another fiber ISP soon in germany

delivering business internet

I am really curious what kind of connection itll be

if my hunch is right, its probably just SMF/AE

since they run a 4km dedicated fiber

[plain siren]

I can give you a technical overview of the whole gPON system but yeah its convoluted

[tame carbon]

@plain siren oh yeah ^ makes tonns of sense

[plain siren]

Oh man it gets fun

[tame carbon]

@plain siren I dont get it

why not just run AE

[plain siren]

Management

Cost

Those 2

[tame carbon]

that network will be future proof enough till the next nuclear war

speaking of

[tame carbon]

@plain siren lol I really wonder what a geomagnetic storm would do to the 'ol copper network

[plain siren]

So with AE you need switching/routing hardware for every "block" of subscribers

With gPON, you can have 1 switch GEM port serve 64 customers

[tame carbon]

okay, and is CWDM not an option ?

or wait

you have a complicated demux at the exchange

[tame carbon]

with 100s of ports

ActiveE is the best solution overal

its just expensive

[plain siren]

AE will be found in high SLA, high throughput networks

gPON will be found in super high density

[tame carbon]

@plain siren I was quoted 40 grand for my fiber line

either that

or get a 2 year dataplan and pay 13,50/month for fiber upkeep

[tame carbon]

@plain siren GPON is TDM right?

isnt there a way to do GPON with various wavelengths?

[tame carbon]

they need to make a lovechild of WDM and GPON

[plain siren]

Also GEM and ATM

GEM is the future

[tame carbon]

GEM?

No ruby here

[plain siren]

So GPON Encapsulated Model

GEM

Its how Voice, TV, Management, and Internet (ethernet) is packaged into the single feed

[tame carbon]

;-;

all of this crap

because of 1 fiber

[tame carbon]

so tagged traffic

[plain siren]

Tagged at a higher encapsulation basically

Its like the ISP level of a VLAN Trunk

And guess what, if you really want to, you can sniff this traffic and compare it to the currently accepted GEM Model and further extract it

VLAN 1000 on AT&T Fiber is used for ONT Management

Which is just SNMP

[tame carbon]

@plain siren when deciding on GPON or AE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwiqg_dq1Ek

[plain siren]

The math for non-assured bandwitdh

[thick minnow]

That reminds me, some person made a video about how ISPs break mathematics

[tame carbon]

basically ^ the better the S/N ratio is, the more banwidth.

@thick minnow minutephysics

[tame carbon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3IPVWN-1ks

[thick minnow]

Yup

[plain siren]

here is best effort

[tame carbon]

@plain siren how much bandwidth even goes down the fiber in total?

[plain siren]

this deepends

So this is how we do the QOS Bandwidth classification

[tame carbon]

"Guys, lets build a fiber network. And make sure it is total cancer for our customers"

[plain siren]

ITU-T G.984.3 is the Regulative Standard on gPON

https://www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?lang=e&id=T-REC-G.984.3-201401-I!!PDF-E&type=items

https://www.itu.int/rec/dologin_pub.asp?lang=e&id=T-REC-G.984.3-202003-I!Amd1!PDF-E&type=items here is the 1 amendment made so far

[tame carbon]

I only know ITU-T E.164 from the top of my head

[plain siren]

Thats ENUM right

[tame carbon]

Phone numbering scheme yes

[plain siren]

Sorry not ENUM then

[tame carbon]

E.164 can be distilled into a regular expression

which you stuff into your DB to make sure you dont get invalid phone #

[plain siren]

It was E.164 DNS that was ENUM hehe

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak can this do routing?

or is it just wifi?

[peak cloak]

routing bread

[tame carbon]

BreadOS

[plain siren]

BreakfastOS, Bread based Nic's

[tame carbon]

@plain siren fucking callcenters

[plain siren]

lol

[tame carbon]

just got called by another callcenter

from my old ISP

asking me the same question

AGAIN

if I was willing to switch to their fiber service.

this is the third time

[thick minnow]

Can you sue them for that?

[tame carbon]

@plain siren then he got sidetracked, and I told him: I'm not switching back to KPN, and I wish you a good day

"Im pretty sure you are busy with bothering other people, have a nice day"

@thick minnow not yet

come July the 5th, new law goes into effect.

No more cold calls.

Companies cannot call you for business purposes, unless you had dealings with them prior

I told him that on the phone

and he said: yeah thats only for energy companies isnt it?

to which I replied; no no, those are a different breed of time wasters, equally annoying

the new law applies to all marketing

[thick minnow]

Thats a switch

[tame carbon]

https://i.imgur.com/aLuEjgp.png

Basically ^ telemarketing will be illegal soon.

[thick minnow]

YES

(If I lived in the netherlands)

[peak cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/184324186284621824/831874675331170334/omSF8zI.jpg

[tame carbon]

@peak cloak LOL

Genius.

[plain siren]

wait what

[tame carbon]

@plain siren detour

[plain siren]

Was the keystones not close enough to the PC and they still wanted a clean way

So they shoved the PC's connection into the rail

This is like the only way I can see this being a REMOTELY valid thing to do

[tame carbon]

You'd get bonus points if you did this with a switch

and then hidden the switch inside the rail

@plain siren I always reply rudely to telemarketing. Though I stay respectful to the person doing it

and when I 'cuss', it is at their company, not the person

cynicism. I love it.

[thick minnow]

OMG finally

[hidden socket]

Dies anybody know if this can be used for wifi

It's a NTL box

Or is it just cable? (I'm in the uk)

[thick minnow]

People still use Itanium?

[limpid pond]

Replaced the switch today with a managed netgear switch, fixed every error I've been having 🙌

[tame carbon]

wat do you think?

[peak cloak]

Wifi? Or internet?

[hidden socket]

I meant internet xD

[peak cloak]

You can do ethernet over coax yes

It's called moca

[hidden socket]

Ethernet is exactly what i needed. thank you

Do you have any good moca suggestions? cause some are 100 and some cost 30

[peak cloak]

moca 2.0 for gigabit

moca is expensive

you need 2

one for each end

the ones for 100 bucks are a pair I'm pretty sure

[hidden socket]

oh ok thank you!

[tame carbon]

@hidden socket cheaper alternative is pulling the cable and running ethernet

MoCa is a bit of a bodge

[plain siren]

I like to think of MoCa as what you get if you stuck a wifi AP and WiFi Client's antenna's together.

[fair knot]

Would there be any signal degradation if I used an extender like this to join two 20m ethernet cables? It's not powered.

[plain siren]

You do it only once you are prob fine

[fair knot]

ok cool

[hollow marlin]

Are you running Adtran ONTs? We tested them and are decent for their dirt cheap price but lacking on their chassis.

[plain siren]

Dirt cheap is the only reason I actually have some toy equipment like this to play with.
I have a lab environment with some Adtran equipment tucked away, and I find lots of compromises for what it is.

[plain siren]

Build quality is really what kinda scared me tbh

[tender hazel]

build quality of the total access 5000 series chassis?

or the ONT? or both?

[plain siren]

"yes"

Everything of theirs just feels...... flimsy

And im not sure what model my stuff is

5004 19-Inch, apparently first generation with like 1 602X and 1 374

For toying with it, it works fine, but its configuration is totally a PITA, I had issues getting the thing to "see" my "Subscribers", and like noted: it felt built like trash

served its purpose

[tender hazel]

we have a TA5004 in the office but haven't done anything with it yet

our initial rollout is active ethernet only to a limited number of customers even though we ran a lot of fiber, we put in mikrotik sfp+ 24 port switches temporarily b/c we didn't have active ethernet cards and the fiber guy waited too long to order them

[plain siren]

I hope I didnt just start worrying you

its not to say they dont work, but they "just work" imho

[hollow marlin]

I would say less of build quality and more limitations in AOS. Last place we had a ton a 5ks from GPON to DSL and while overall solid stability wise, visibility, tshooting and some odd config limitations were a no go. All our equipment here for GPON/AE is all Calix

[tender hazel]

we haven't done too much with the configuration of the units.. I know the CLI mimics cisco IOS

[hollow marlin]

AOS and IOS is a true to life meme of "let me copy your homework but change some things to its not the same"

We do use Adtran IADs here though for SIP/PRIs which out of the vendors has been the most robust

I do know Adtran sent us their beta test for their new ONTs for their SD-WAN solutions that coworker was testing. I know he sent it back like 4-5 days after receiving it so thats not a good sign. Ill have to meet with him to see what he thought of it as its their reaction to compete with Calix's AXOS platform

[tender hazel]

I can't even find that SD-WAN thing on their website

[hollow marlin]

Let me see if I can get the model. Like I said it was a "beta" ONT so I am not sure how much they are advertising outside major customers

[tender hazel]

I found press releases for it.. the model is 934

but it isn't on their website from what I can see

[hollow marlin]

Its under the SD-Access for more info https://www.adtran.com/index.php/sd-access

SD-WAN/Access, same buzz words

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm was this a serious problem of yours, or purely theoretical?

[undone smelt]

Can anyone help me with this wifi problem. So with the wifi card Archer (TX3000E) i have i get 410 download and 0.55 upload but i was 400 down and up and i have tried Ethernet and i get 500 download and 75 upload and my school pc with Ethernet gets 500 up and down are there a reason for this?
i have tried to update the wifi card and did not help too
Here the pc parts that i have:
Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 5800x
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3070 GAMING X TRIO
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Ram: 2x G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 16GB KIT 3200Mhz
Storage: samsung ssd 970 evo plus 500gb
Seagate SkyHawk 2TB 3.5'' HDD
Wifi-card: TP-Link Archer TX3000E Wi-Fi 6

[peak cloak]

because it's wifi

ethernet is better

[undone smelt]

ya but i would still get slower speeds than a school laptop with the ethernet

[peak cloak]

ok and?

it's ethernet

it will basically always be ethernet

[undone smelt]

i want to know why

[peak cloak]

interference

your rf enviroment

etc.

[undone smelt]

ok, that still dont help me

@ me if you can help

[tame carbon]

have a look at this: https://mikrotik.com/product/audience

[toxic chasm]

It's a real problem

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm this thing has 1x 2.4GHz wireless, and 3x 5GHz

You can use one of the 5GHz channels as a backhaul, to smaller units

It comes with an app to configure them

Mikrotik is carrier grade quality, most people here would recommend it

https://i.imgur.com/u195bZ5.png

so it has 3 radios in total

[toxic chasm]

Something with a few more ethernet ports would be good. Already running 2 switches

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm if you'll indulge for a moment... let me show you something

as @peak cloak said

[toxic chasm]

Honestly the biggest thing is how well it handles >700 active connections

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm how much bandwidth do you have in total outgoing?

and do you have any heavy local traffic?

[peak cloak]

how many devices?

[tame carbon]

this can route total of 2gbit/s

[toxic chasm]

I have 200x20 to the outside world. I have moderate to heavy local traffic

[tame carbon]

and you just need a switch to add ports

thinking about what might be best...

there's multiple solutions

[toxic chasm]

Bandwidth is not the real problem. The problem is latency with a ton of active connections

[tame carbon]

are they concentrated?

or in different rooms/

700 active connections?

what

700 devices?

xD

[toxic chasm]

They are in direct places. My router is next to my entertainment center with 5 devices connected, I have a switch in my room with 3 devices, and there is a switch in my roommates room with 3 devices

[peak cloak]

ah so not too many

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm so wait, you have wired access in most locations? :o

[toxic chasm]

No 1 local device with >700 outgoing connections

[toxic chasm]

Yes. I do wired when I can

[peak cloak]

connections don't really matter right? or because of the NAT state table size?

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm https://mikrotik.com/product/hap_ac3 this is a very powerful home wireless router. it runs RouterOS which has many many features.

[toxic chasm]

Idk, when I have that many outgoing connections my ping goes to like 400

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm now the cool thing.

[peak cloak]

yeah probobly router ran out of space for NAT state table

[tame carbon]

and couple of these ^

you can also wall mount them

[toxic chasm]

Btw my current router is the asus rt-ac56u

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm I can literally say nothing good about them

[toxic chasm]

Only a 650 sqft place

[peak cloak]

only one Access Point would be fine then

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm yeah but if you put one of these in each room, everyone is on their own 5GHz channel.

[toxic chasm]

Yeah

[tame carbon]

the problem is walls.

5GHz dies, and it uses 2.4 which is awful

[toxic chasm]

Isn't that going to cause spectrum congestion?

[tame carbon]

I get 1ms latency on 5GHz with those ^

@toxic chasm 5GHz has a LOT more channels that dont overlap

2.4GHz only 3

[peak cloak]

not really if properly configured with right TX power

plus it's one SSID

only one name

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm https://i.imgur.com/3mLb7XQ.png

2.4GHz ^

[toxic chasm]

There are over a dozen 5g networks in range of me

[tame carbon]

5Ghz doesnt have that much range

when the device next to you starts signalling

it drowns out the signal

https://live-ekahau.pantheonsite.io/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Detailed-5-GHz-Channel-Allocations.jpg

@toxic chasm multiple radios is the only solution

you put them in different rooms, the phone connects to the closest one

and the idea with the single central router, is that they are all managed by the same device

so you dont notice it when it switches from one radio to another

its seamless basically

[toxic chasm]

How about this guy? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QMNNVG8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glc_fabc_KA3JCMQ403PKW3VM6X8Z?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm thats way overkill for your purposes

I have that one, but not with the wireless. that's waste of money

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/776722183119699988/777646103775674368/IMG-20200922-WA0001.jpg

That's an RB4011 ^

but its for 10gbit/s

that one goes to my switch

@toxic chasm these cost $60

[toxic chasm]

I just want something that works this time. The specs of the one you linked looked rather close to what I already have

[tame carbon]

they can do dual band wireless

you buy 2-3 of these

use one of them as controller

[toxic chasm]

I'm tired of file transfers to my NAS failing 8 TB into them

[tame carbon]

I have one of these to get my NAS and PC to be highspeed

one is connected to the router as well

[peak cloak]

connections on the same network though a switch would not go to the router

[tame carbon]

tiny 4x 10gbit/s switch for $120

and that switch runs same operating system as all those other devices

I like it for that reason

those asus things have almost no features, never get updates

and are very buggy

[toxic chasm]

Hum, maybe I should upgrade the switch in my room too

It is just some random crap I find laying around

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm depends on what you need

ports and speed

$130

24x gigabit and 2x 10gbit

though wait

I wouldnt actually get that one

SwitchOS meh.

[toxic chasm]

I would like to do 10gb to my NAS, but I would need a crazy adapter for my laptop

[peak cloak]

router does not need to be 10gig if you just want 10gig over the same network without routing

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm if you are on the same network, it doesnt route

[toxic chasm]

I don't use a desktop, just a laptop with a 4c/8t cpu 64gb ram, and a 2070

[peak cloak]

lol

[tame carbon]

it just switches.

[peak cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/Sonnet-Thunderbolt-Gigabit-Ethernet-Included/dp/B07N327RJ2

[peak cloak]

ah rip

what you want is a sfp+ adapter

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm those 10G interfaces are not RJ45, they use SFP+

its a modular interface

can do both copper and fiber

[toxic chasm]

Looks like it would need a $200 huge network adapter

[tame carbon]

no

you dont

@toxic chasm just buy a $74 intel 10G card

with SFP+

[toxic chasm]

For 10gb over USB?

[tame carbon]

no PCIe

laptop deeerp

hold on

[peak cloak]

he said he had a laptop

[toxic chasm]

Like I said, laptop

[tame carbon]

@toxic chasm what kind of interfaces do you have?