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tame carbon
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and 1x 10Gigabit

clear igloo
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@hazy sandal If your teacher doesn't know about Juniper, Arista, Extreme, Nokia, Dell, HP, Aruba, Ruckus, etc. then they don't know jack

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Almost nobody runs single vendor anymore

tame carbon
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^

clear igloo
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And this is from someone who works for them

hazy sandal
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@clear igloo haha he has mentioned like juniper and hp a few times, but mostly like "this is better than how x does it" or in a similiar sense

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he's really shilling them xD

tame carbon
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omg. I've actually been productive today

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finally, my SPA framework is functional

clear igloo
tame carbon
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it gets pre-rendered html from the server, and after that can use the CDN for content requests

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as you can see by the url requests

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but every path, also has a valid controller on the server, that can fetch pre-rendered html

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so you can enter the SPA at any point

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until 6 months ago, I've never used nodejs

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but starting to get the hang of it now

hazy sandal
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possible. but he took the same education as I am currently undergoing, but like 10 years or so ago, and then went and got certified, and nowadays it seems like he is only working with cisco stuff

peak cloak
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I'm a noob in js

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I'm making a multiplayer game using socketio with my friends

tame carbon
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@peak cloak most of this code is typescript and the SPA is written in hyperscript

hollow marlin
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Also I cannot blame them for only knowing Cisco. Many go their whole career touching nothing but it

hazy sandal
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In my mind, that can't be a fulfilling career. For me, I'm doing something wrong if I haven't learned something new (ie totally new, or new ways to do stuff) everyday.

waxen scroll
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i started my career touching extreme mostly and some cisco #blessed

hollow marlin
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You can still do that working with a single vendor. There is plenty to learn

tame carbon
clear igloo
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Yah, you just can't go around expecting vendor x to always be the very best at everything

tame carbon
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@peak cloak look how clean that controller is

peak cloak
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nice

tame carbon
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@peak cloak that prerenders the mithril DOM

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inserts it into a view

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and then once the bundle loads, it mounts the Component in code to the actual html

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and then you can dynamically update it

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and the only thing it needs the server for when its running

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is fragment of js code, to render each view

hazy sandal
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true, with the rate stuff has been evolving there sure is a lot to learn, even from one vendor, but still, it's a very limited knowledge if all you ever learn is from one vendor. If I could I'd happily spend my entire "career" learning new stuff and trying to become a jack-of-all-trades xD

tame carbon
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it loads the initial content from the CDN, prerenders it

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after that, you can see the browser load the bundle and chunk for the homepage

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after browsing to another page, it downloads another chunk

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the .map files are symbols for debugging

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so even though its tsx in sourcecode, you can debug it with chrome

hollow marlin
clear igloo
tame carbon
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the problem is when vendors abstract convention away in favor of their own system

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this knowledge becomes kinda impossible to apply to another vendor's equipment

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@peak cloak KEKW zsh: command not found: yarn

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oof

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[1/4] Resolving packages...
[2/4] Fetching packages...
[3/4] Linking dependencies...
[4/4] Building fresh packages...
Done in 1.89s.
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we gucci

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time to run your rat

peak cloak
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it's bad

tame carbon
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@peak cloak what is this lmao

peak cloak
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oh lol

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it's my freinds code

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I didn't write that

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I just do all the actual coding

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there's one other kid who knows how to code, but it's pretty badly

hollow marlin
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@clear igloo Yeah, once you understand the core its just syntax hopping between, its why I have no problem when people go down a vendor cert path. Somethings that don't carry for example is going from Juniper to Cisco, routing-instances and what they can do is not viable at all such as breaking a EX4600 into multiple virtual-switches or tunneling them together for policy-based MAC forwarding. Each vendor has its cons and if a teacher focuses on a single vendor they don't understand what actually can/cannot be done

peak cloak
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@tame carbon are you on the major rewrite branch

tame carbon
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wait, I am not

peak cloak
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yeah, my actual "good" code is there

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I need to figure out interpolation

tame carbon
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ok how do I interact with it?

peak cloak
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wasd?

tame carbon
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works well yeah

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sockets right?

peak cloak
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yeah

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is there a better way

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webrtc?

tame carbon
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webrtc has issues sometimes

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most noteably

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that not all forms of traffic are possible

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RTCDataChannel allows bidirectional communication of arbitrary data between peers. It uses the same API as WebSockets and has very low latency

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so they both use the same mechanism

peak cloak
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hmm, but they use tcp then?

tame carbon
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yeah

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but if you want to do peer-to-peer with webrtc

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you need to be able to map a port

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which doesnt always work

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websockets good enough

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its a website. not a desktop application

peak cloak
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I kinda want to make it so player data is transported via udp, to avoid data retransmits

tame carbon
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ok well, in a local setting this will work

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but require fw configuration on either end if not on same network

peak cloak
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hmm

vale storm
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Hey everyone! I am in a student dorm where the internet speed is limited to 15 Mbps per device no matter how many devices are online. How do I make it so my computer appears to the router as two devices and receives double the bandwidth?

peak cloak
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umm if you get 15 from your isp there is no way to make that faster

vale storm
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No, the house gets 400 Mbps.

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Or 500 Mbps.

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But the router just limits every device to 15 Mbps.

peak cloak
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technically maybe

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idk how

tame carbon
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@vale storm complain with the admin from the dorm, not here

vale storm
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Well, they won't change it, I already asked them. But I thought maybe someone would know how to make the router think it's talking to two devices even though it's only one.

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I thought this was the place to ask.

tame carbon
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the answer is, you can't

peak cloak
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you would need special hardware

vale storm
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You can combine multiple cellphone signals though...

tame carbon
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that doesnt make it faster

vale storm
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More bandwidth though.

tame carbon
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it just allows you to load balance connections over two external connections

peak cloak
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yeah

tame carbon
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doesnt make a single download faster

vale storm
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Well, if I have four YouTube streams running, I can watch two over one connection and two over the other.

clear igloo
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It will hash to a single interface and you'll be in the same situation, you can't load balance a single application between multiple connections like that easily. You could in theory do YouTube over 1 connection and other stuff over another but you can't split youtube video streams over two like that

vale storm
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But it's basically different browser tabs though, not strictly the same application.

tame carbon
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to me this sounds like a layer 8 problem

clear igloo
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If you can figure out how to tell Windows to balance based on browser tabs then go for it

vale storm
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I'm using Linux.

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@tame carbon what's your problem? Am I annoying you? If so, just tell me and I'll be out of here.

clear igloo
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You're ignoring the fact that this isn't possible in the way you want

vale storm
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I'm not ignoring anything, I just hoped to find some help from some enthusiasts who could explain this stuff to me. Bye everyone!

tame carbon
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@vale storm you should persuade the IT guy to set up their queues differently. if it can do 500mbit, why not let someone have more bandwidth when its not in use

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and then guarantee everyone at least 15mbit

vale storm
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@tame carbon that is EXACTLY what I told them and they said "we don't care, it currently works, that's the main thing".

tame carbon
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@vale storm no it doesn't.

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because its too slow

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and it could be way faster

vale storm
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Yes, but they don't care.

peak cloak
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pay for internet

tame carbon
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^

vale storm
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Doesn't work, the wifi is distributed throughout the house.

peak cloak
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and maybe... sell it to your neighboors

tame carbon
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@vale storm dot1x easily allow you to authenticate a device with your account

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have a multiuser environment on a single wireless network

vale storm
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They have the entire internet centralized in the house.

tame carbon
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muh, I think their router is either. crap. and doesnt support this feature

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or

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they are really too lazy

vale storm
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No, they have pretty nice Ubiquiti routers.

peak cloak
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AP's right

tame carbon
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then they are lazy as fuck

vale storm
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They are too lazy. I've met these people. I wouldn't be asking for a wonky workaround if I hadn't tried telling them time and time again.

tame carbon
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yeah its because they dont have a clue

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because if they knew how, they would have already done it

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15mbit per device on a 500m line

vale storm
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No, they hire an external IT firm and they're cheap af and don't want to deal with it.

tame carbon
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ok and

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what about

vale storm
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The house owner's cheap, that is.

tame carbon
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removing their equipment xD

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and putting your own in place

vale storm
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@tame carbon no, the router's not in my room, it's centralized.

tame carbon
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but its on premises ?

vale storm
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Yes.

tame carbon
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but not authorized to mess with it?

vale storm
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But it's not my property.

tame carbon
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well

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ur fucked

vale storm
tame carbon
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cant really do much

peak cloak
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could you get an ISP to your dorm directly

vale storm
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Exactly. That's why I asked for that workaround.

vale storm
tame carbon
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computer says no

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most likely

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@vale storm if you get a line installed, if they already have a fiber link in the building or something

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patching a wavelength off is easy, because the ISP is another company

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and then you can have gigabit internet

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while everyone chuggs along with 15

vale storm
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I'm directly under the roof, there's no way they put in a new line.

tame carbon
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move :3

vale storm
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Thing is, I'm not paying anything for internet here.

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That's probably also why they don't care. Nobody's paying for internet, it's included in the rent.

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But the rental contract doesn't specify a certain internet speed.

tame carbon
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yeah but if speed isnt what it could be

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I'd call that a defect

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@vale storm what if you bribe the guy?

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get him to move his butt

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he has no incentives

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so give him one

vale storm
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He'd have to hire that IT firm which is probably more expensive than what I can reasonably bribe the guy with.

tame carbon
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:/

vale storm
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I mean, they clearly have no idea what they're talking about.

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The phrasing in the rental contract is ridiculous.

tame carbon
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is it in comic sans??

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I'm joking btw

vale storm
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I'm translating here, but:

"[...] You're not allowed to give the wifi password to unauthorized people. You're not allowed to use the internet for illegal downloads and for visiting illegal websites and websites that offer paid services. [...]"

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Like, what?

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So I'm not allowed to use Amazon, Netflix, or anything basically?

tame carbon
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paid services?

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wat

vale storm
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Yes.

tame carbon
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so what, no netflix?

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really?

vale storm
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I mean, no

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I have no idea what they mean.

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They probably mean shady sites that charge you if you look at the site wrong...

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But like... What?

hollow marlin
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Pretty much standard. Anything they offer without proper logging, if someone does something illegal and there is no logging to show what device at a particular time was accessing something illegally, they are liable.

vale storm
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Yes, I get that...

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But it's not their business which sites I visit unless they get an inquiry because there was illegal activity.

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I mean, I use a VPN at all times anyway...

hollow marlin
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Most do not have sufficient logging to accurately tie a device to an IP at a point in history

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It is there business if they cannot supply proper logging or prison time

vale storm
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Exactly, but what does that have to do with "no paid sites"?

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It's not like they have any website filters in place.

hollow marlin
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No clue. Like you said probably illegal sites with paid services but worded wrong

vale storm
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Yeah, it might be my bad translation but even in the original wording it's really strange.

tame carbon
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@vale storm they might also refer to hosting services on their network

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because its an educational system

vale storm
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No, it's a private dorm.

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But only for university students.

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And it specifies "visiting" those sites.

little schooner
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I know for my job, I had to sign an agreement form that states every interaction is monitored and logged.

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If I violated it, I am subject to employment termination

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@vale storm

vale storm
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@little schooner sure, but like... What does that have to do with my problem?

little schooner
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Because you mentioned a university policy

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I'm mentioning mine

waxen scroll
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Please stop what you are trying to do and think about it for a second. Is it secure to have Windows file sharing over IPv4 WAN?

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LTT forum ^^

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so IPv6 file share over internet secure?

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today 👏 i 👏 learned

clear igloo
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Yes, IPv6 is 100% secure

waxen scroll
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#iamveryrich

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@hollow marlin link some ciennas

little schooner
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I don't think I could ever go full unifi

peak cloak
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too expensive

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and not that many features (as in locked down)

hollow marlin
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@waxen scroll No Cienas right now. Do have a stack of SRXs to lab up

waxen scroll
peak cloak
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@tame carbon you have an ovh vps?

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What are the cpu clock speeds

south blade
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Maybe I missed an email or something but I hadn't heard there were newer servers till I just found them right now checking if an old server I was using was being upgraded.

amber light
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ok, what the heck??? so apparently my modem works on ethernet when directly connected but wifi and ethernet throughout the rest of the house doesn't work?

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same, even to this date

peak cloak
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@amber light what router are you using

amber light
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(xfinity)

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most xfinity reps are too dumb to know what to do

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rEsEt tHe mOdEm

little schooner
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@amber light wow you quoted me all the way back in 2019

little schooner
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My opinion is still the same. And it's going to be worse when they enforce the data cap

amber light
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they already did

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1.2 tb cap

little schooner
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Is that in effect already?

amber light
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yep

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has been now for months

little schooner
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No, for my state it's early 2021

amber light
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Hm

little schooner
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Fortunately, the data usage at site 1 is under 900GB

amber light
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They already put it in effect for california and other states Thonk

little schooner
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@amber light yes that's true

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It's more that the northern east states will get it next

amber light
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ah

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paying $10 for unlimited data isn't bad though

little schooner
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Oh, no I heard it was going to be $30 for my case

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$10 I'd be okay with

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But 30....

amber light
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thats a lot

waxen saddle
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They sold you a freeway and charge you for using it

verbal oasis
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Wondering if comcast will cap thier gigabit tier?

tall pagoda
lean pebble
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My server have ipv6 but my home network doesn't have

unborn sluice
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you should

tall pagoda
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Tele2 is Some classic old branding name and they doesn’t really care about new technology

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Actually a few years ago when I went to Germany I got welcome messages in Swedish instead of Dutch

tame carbon
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@peak cloak no OVH vpses here, only linode

dusty osprey
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i had to enable ipv6 on APN settings in android to get v6

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my home wifi has v6 and 4g too

tame carbon
unborn sluice
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javascript truly

unborn sluice
tame carbon
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I think the lua one is funny lol

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and js is on-point

unborn sluice
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haven't tried lua so i don't get the reference

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I tried js so many times, and it still manages to surprise me everytime

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@tame carbon is this guy the original author of those?

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cause I've seen so many of this langauges as a person

tame carbon
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not sure

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this was just linked to me

dusty osprey
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crystal

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u here

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@tame carbon

tame carbon
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wat

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@dusty osprey sup

dusty osprey
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;-;

tame carbon
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yes

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RedHat is a commercial entity

dusty osprey
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they are kill centos ;-;

tame carbon
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thats what they do, they give away their product, and charge for support

dusty osprey
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well NOT killl but

tame carbon
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fork it

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:P

dusty osprey
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yea it isnt stable

dusty osprey
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i guess that

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but still

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many people are going mad

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sad

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crazy

tame carbon
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debian ftw

dusty osprey
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mm

lean pebble
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Someone know a good hosting company with high bandwidth cap / unlimited bandwidth vps in US?

tame carbon
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linode gets you 1TB on their smallest plan

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most providers have a fair use traffic policy

lean pebble
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How much it costs ?

tame carbon
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$5

lean pebble
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Only for proxy

tame carbon
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pretty sure linode allows bandwidth saving

lean pebble
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Now I have proxy on my server in Germany and I can watch German netflix

tame carbon
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so if you use less than 1TB

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you can use more the next month

lean pebble
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It's not alot of bandwidth just want to test it

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Because in vultr It didn't worked as my other proxy server

lean pebble
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They don't accept paypal 🤔

dusty osprey
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vultr does

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linode? they... I am not sure

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😐

unborn sluice
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linode accepts paypal

lean pebble
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Vultr does linode doesn't

unborn sluice
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They do

lean pebble
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I couldn't find it

unborn sluice
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interesting, I expect paypal to be worldwide

lean pebble
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I found the best and cheap way to bypass Netflix geo blocking.
Cheaper than VPN.

unborn sluice
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tunnel?

lean comet
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Hello All, I am having issues with my PiHole dropping DNS requests. I read somewhere online that this is because you need to assign it an IPv6 address(ULA). I have a Pfsense box and am a complete noob when is comes to IPv6 addresses. Most of the videos online are in regards to setting this up on a WAN interface. Has anyone run into this problem?

little schooner
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I don't use Ipv6 and pihole does not drop my DNS requests

lean comet
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hmm interesting what type of router /firewall do you use?

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any thoughts why this might be happening? Its not every page just randomly, I can sometime hit the refresh button and it pulls up the page after a slight delay.

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when I switch to another DNS server it works fine so I know it has to do with something related to PiHole

peak cloak
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@lean comet how many dns servers do you have in windows

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or in dhcp

lean comet
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I am using linux, but I have just the PiHole set as the DNS and then my upstream DNS servers are OpenDNS

peak cloak
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hmm

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ipv6 shouldn't be an issue

lean comet
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ok, yeah thought that was weird anyways. I am going off of what is suggested on piHole's website. Another suggestion was regarding HTTPS "As mentioned previously, Pi-hole is only handling the DNS queries and doesn’t know about the other protocols that are taking place. But we can use iptables to manage these protocols to prevent time-outs allowing Pi-hole work it’s magic."

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Do you think that could be were the problem is?

peak cloak
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no clue tbh

lean comet
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Same haha

lean pebble
little schooner
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@lean comet I'm using Edgerouter for the router

dusty osprey
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UniFi™️

hollow marlin
south blade
peak cloak
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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try and see

south blade
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throws the dice on seeing if internet cuts off for everyone in the house. :D

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Nope, doesn't seem to connect anymore.

waxen scroll
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

south blade
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Well shoot, don't want to waste my time making too many setting changes if I'm not updating my PFSense and that doesn't look like smooth sailing to me.

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😭

little schooner
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looks smooth to me

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that was released today?

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oh its not stable yet

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not smooth.

pearl beacon
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does anyone know how to subset a /23 network i need to know how for an assignment

clear igloo
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255.255.255.0 x2

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I subnetted it 😄

pearl beacon
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i mean like starting with a /23 network

clear igloo
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Start with the most hosts you'll need and work to the smaller number of hosts. If they say 100 users you round to the upper bit boundary (128) and so on.

pearl beacon
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ive only learned how to do it starting with /24

clear igloo
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Example: 10.0.0.0/23
Subnet 1 would be 10.0.0.0/25
Subnet 2 would be 10.0.0.128/something

peak cloak
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You can subnet multiple ways iirc, there isn't one set way. Depends on the assignment

clear igloo
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Yah, that too. A /23 is just 2x /24s so the same concept of a /24 would apply (at least how I see it)

pearl beacon
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i know how subnet its more how starting with 23 affects it

clear igloo
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Ah, ok, that makes more sense. 1 sec

pearl beacon
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like noramly with a /24 u only really mess with the last octet

clear igloo
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A /23 crosses what would normally be a bit boundary for a /24
So, at least how I always look at it is this:
Find the lower boundary and add +1 to the third octet to get the upper boundary
Example:
10.0.2.0/23
10.0.2.0-10.0.3.255

pearl beacon
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ahhhhh

clear igloo
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You could also say inverse mask + subnet = upper limit
A /23 subnet mask is 255.255.254.0 so the inverse is 0.0.1.255

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10.0.2.0 + 0.0.1.255 = 10.0.3.255 🙂

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and with a 22 it would be 0.0.3.255 so 10.0.0.0-10.0.3.255 as an example

peak cloak
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I didn't really understand it myself, nice way to think about it

pearl beacon
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so say 192.168.30.0 is the starting ip u would subnet under 192.168.0 and then 192.168.31.0?

clear igloo
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Yes, be careful though, I remember in my classes teachers would say "you have 192.168.31.0" but you can't subnet that into a /23 because it's in the middle of the bit boundary 30.0-31.255 so they can try to trick you sometimes 🙂

pearl beacon
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ok got it thanks

lean pebble
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Subneting make me crazy when I studied networks

clear igloo
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Yah, it's a pain at first but when you find those little tricks it makes it easier but do what's easiest for YOU to understand 🙂

lean pebble
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The only part of my studies that never staid inside my brain

pearl beacon
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ya thankfully my professor isnt making us do it in straight binary

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hes letting us make subletting circles and the sort

lean pebble
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Still having troubles with it.
Just using website that does it for me 😬

clear igloo
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What's really fun is with a /23 you can have a host of 192.168.31.0 or 30.255 and be fine 🙂

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not gonna lie, I'm a network engineer and even I use subnet sites now and again

lean pebble
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Always had problems with the subnet itself

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255.255.255.255 and down

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The only one I remember is /32

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All 255

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Prefix I just looked at the gateway

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I used to work only with external IPs

clear igloo
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What always sucks is when you're using /31s and you're like 8 interfaces deep and your brain stops for a second and suddenly you're off by 1, lol

lean pebble
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Lol

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The big problem is when one of your customers trying his luck and taking 1 free extra IP address and making you IP conflict

peak cloak
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wait how do ISP's prevent that

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like on big ISP's how do they prevent you from just setting a static ip

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is it the ONT/Modem of theirs

hollow marlin
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ARP inspection or PPPoE

waxen scroll
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muh pp

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@lean pebble blob does it all the time

lean pebble
lean pebble
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My new router hex-s on his way 👀

dusty osprey
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oh wow

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I was also planning to get one

waxen saddle
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Is anyone aware of IP's that Amazon sidewalk uses? I'm finding the information hard to come by and I'm going to have to block those IP's.

unborn sluice
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like the IP to communicate to amazon servers?

thorny vector
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Probably using the same IP's as the rest of their stuff

unborn sluice
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don't let the sidewalk DNS

thorny vector
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Unless you're talking about their peer addressing

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@unborn sluice Forgive me brother, for I have sinned. I attacked a 1050ti with tin snips to make it fit in a 1u server rack chassis

thorny vector
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But it was free!

unborn sluice
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what does it look like though

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I got curious

unborn sluice
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i mean the 1050ti right now

thorny vector
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I'm not taking it out of the rack, and opening it up since its running some stuff for me. Basically the plastic shroud is gone, and the bracket is hacked away at until it fit, and would still screw in.

unborn sluice
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I want to see what is left of the 1050ti after the surgery

thorny vector
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Also had to dremel out a portion of the chassis

unborn sluice
#

yikes

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the plastic shroud should be fine ngl

#

but using dremel is sus

thorny vector
#

Happily, though, from the outside it looks clean

unborn sluice
#

Sometimes gonna smile even though dying inside

#

Well it's hidden in the server

#

so the barbaric acts are concealed

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and free

#

can't beat that

dusty osprey
#

blocc aws asn

unborn sluice
#

block all aws ipv4/v6 prefix ?

#

I like how sidewalk is you paying the internet so amazon could sell the feature

hazy sandal
#

anyone used to freeIPA? Just installed it on a Fedora 33 vm, but I am unable to add a new user. I get this error gecos: value #0 invalid per syntax: Invalid syntax. and I can't seem to find any clear info on what is going wrong.

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oh, and I posted it here cause I think there's a higher probability that someone here knows something, even thou it isn't really a networking issue, but still relatable to networking in general. If I should put it in another channel, please tell me so 🙂

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oh, no worries, was my last name that caused the issue xD Last name contains a non-english character (å) xD

waxen scroll
tall pagoda
tame carbon
#

depends on the phone

#

apple you need jailbreak

#

on android its not that difficult

lime pasture
#

im pretty sure thats apple

#

you would need to install cydia

#

although

#

it might be very hard to find a 14.2 jailbreak

#

lemme see

tame carbon
#

hacking your phone for such a stupid reason lol

lime pasture
#

yea i guess he wants to do it

#

but

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ok

tame carbon
#

yes.. that certainly seems secure

lime pasture
#

jail breaking isnt secure in the first place

#

lololool

tame carbon
#

remove that url

#

its a scam

lime pasture
#

ok

tame carbon
#

it does not even list to the official checkra1n repository

#

they have their own thing going on

lime pasture
#

okie i deleted it

tame carbon
#

wat xD

lime pasture
#

???

tame carbon
lime pasture
tame carbon
#

yeah read the footer

lime pasture
#

yea thats prtty obvious

#

i was just tryna help lol

tame carbon
#

This is why I like opensource and therefor android

lime pasture
#

if he wants to do it

tame carbon
#

cus its fully transparant

#

:)

lime pasture
#

then he can do it

#

🙂

tame carbon
#

@tall pagoda not unless you jailbreak that sucker, basically.

#

I used to have a jailbroken iphone 4

lime pasture
#

yea

#

same

tame carbon
#

Idek what program i used for that

lime pasture
#

but an 5s

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Cydia was mainly used

tame carbon
#

but you basically generated your own install ipsw I think it was

lime pasture
#

back in those days

tame carbon
#

and then you started your device in DFU mode and held down SHIFT when you pressed "restore phone"

lime pasture
#

ohhhhy

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that

#

yea i remember

tame carbon
#

and it opened up a file selector to choose your patched image

lime pasture
#

i did it for my younger cousin

hazy sandal
#

checkra1n is awesome, specially paired with odysseyra1n 😄 Anyhow, checkra1n don't work on my iPhone 11 PM, it does on my iPad thou, but the battery is so bad it dies almost daily xD

lime pasture
#

because he wanted a custome swipe animation

tame carbon
#

I denounced apple after my ipod touch 3rd gen and iphone 4 died after 2 years

lime pasture
#

lol

tame carbon
#

like, both are nonfunctional

lime pasture
#

those are so old tho

#

you can say that

#

cant'

hazy sandal
#

only reason I really wanna jb is getting 5 icon homescreen and dock xD

tame carbon
#

my 23 year old windows 95 machine still works?

lime pasture
#

yea

#

i gguess

tame carbon
#

apple is crap

#

for all the reasons

lime pasture
#

it cause apple just wants you waste money

#

like

#

600 dollar headphones

#

with the CRAPPIEST case

#

it the world

tame carbon
#

once the battery goes its a useless device anyways

#

thats the big problem

#

lithium ion only has limited lifetime

#

300~ cycles you are at 80% capacity

hazy sandal
#

i left android cause when I had android I spent to much time building my own roms and/or trying out other roms that when I really needed my phone it was useless or unstable xD wont happen with the iPhone xD

tame carbon
#

give or take 2-3 years

#

you will only have 50% capacity

lime pasture
#

uhhhh

#

maybe more liek 70

tame carbon
#

no

lime pasture
#

not 50

#

bruh u r using an iphone 4

tame carbon
#

as the phone looses capacity, you charge it more often

#

accelerating the wear

lime pasture
#

but IPHONE 4

#

THATS SO OLD IT GUNNA BE BAD

tame carbon
#

@lime pasture mh, at the time it was snappy too

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worked well

lime pasture
#

yea

tame carbon
#

it wouldnt be able to handle discord probably

lime pasture
#

uh

tame carbon
#

but its still a phone

#

you can text with it

lime pasture
#

i dont think tghe software is up to date

tame carbon
#

make photos

lime pasture
#

even

tame carbon
#

@lime pasture thats planned.

lime pasture
#

yea

tame carbon
#

and even if it was

lime pasture
#

thats cause apple wants you to get a new pohone

tame carbon
#

with android, you can install community operating systems

lime pasture
#

every fricking year

tame carbon
#

that still get updates

lime pasture
#

yea

#

well with apple they force you to have their own operating system

hazy sandal
#

hey, atleast apple supplies sw updates for like 5 yrs I think, even thou they intentionally mess older phones up with them xD

lime pasture
#

with android they have opensource

#

yea i guess

tame carbon
#

another big problem

#

you can't sideload apps

#

so even if the device was functional

lime pasture
#

mmhh

tame carbon
#

there's no ways for you to install any apps

hazy sandal
#

not completely thou. vendorspecific stuff (drivers etc) doesn't need to be opensourced, which makes it hard to make new roms if the drivers available are to old

tame carbon
#

this is why older devices must be jailbroken

#

because cydia allows sideloading

lime pasture
#

mhh

tame carbon
#

but it shouldn't have to be this way

#

I think its criminal for apple to do this

hazy sandal
#

I've been hit by that myself when trying to port newer android versions to a maybe 3 year old device

lime pasture
#

well apple software security is better

tame carbon
#

It damages the environment

#

and they are the single largest phone manufacturer

lime pasture
#

besides all the china imported manufaturers

#

yea

tame carbon
#

they are the largest one in the industry

lime pasture
#

yea

#

true

tall pagoda
#

I have relative new Samsung lying around in my drawer anyway, iill maybe start using that device again

#

A9 (2018) is someone will ask the model.
My current device is a Apple IPhone SE (2020)

tall pagoda
clear igloo
#

Because it doesn't, not according to the TIA/EIA standard at least, only ISO

hazy sandal
#

It isn't standardized yet IIRC. Cat7 has been mentioned by my teachers (one runs a company building and hosting infrastructure, another is a Cisco guy).

hollow marlin
#

7/8 do exist but outside not being a standard there is little to no use for them over 6a.

deft fog
hazy sandal
#

got any vpn or virtualization software installed? I got a bunch of TAP adapters because of virtualization software, and a few from different vpn apps

peak cloak
#

I have 2 too, 1 for npcap and one for hyperV (WSL)

deft fog
#

Only installed bitdefender

peak cloak
#

probobly their VPN?

#

you could try removing it

#

device manager -> network adapters

#

right click and uninstall

deft fog
#

Ok

#

Ow also any one know how "network bridge" wotks

waxen scroll
#

whats an IRL bridge do?

#

@clear igloo 😷

#

im not hip with the kids these days. wtf is sus

clear igloo
#

@rocky badge might know 😄

waxen scroll
#

must be the new oof

clear igloo
#

a big sus oof

waxen scroll
#

thats mad dope, yo

waxen saddle
#

sus = short for suspect/suspicious.

#

It appeared in common conversations after "among us" became popular.

waxen scroll
#

makes sense, i guess if you dont use voice in that game it would suck to keep typing that

peak cloak
#

oof is just a meme, no one uses it in a real conversation

#

at least in my age

little schooner
#

Some things are just meant to be read not spoken yeah @peak cloak

waxen scroll
#

I've seen it used in spoken communication

peak cloak
#

in little kids yeah

dire condor
#

Looking for a network wizard to solve my moca 2.5 problem. Willing to sacrifice my 3 yr old for answers. 😫

peak cloak
#

moca networking is black magic to me

modern reef
#

What MoCA question you have?

dire condor
#

You and me both, buddy. I thought I had a good understanding. I don't.

#

So I have these moca 2.5 adapters and I cant seem to get them to talk to each other. I tested with a short piece of coax and it worked so Im guessing the adaptors are fine.

modern reef
#

Can you explain to me your topology?

dire condor
#

Fios ONT -> House 4-way coax splitter -> office coax, living room coax

#

The Fios tech said theyre using a 2.5 moca adaptor

#

and I have 4 live coax jacks

modern reef
#

Is the splitter active or passive?

dire condor
#

The main house splitter, I have no idea... but the tech installed it... and the gigabit is working

#

I just cant seem the get my moca lan working

#

I have a pair of gocoax 2.5s

#

I would think it would be something in the wiring but the Fios moca adapter is working.... yeah... black magic

modern reef
#

What is the model of the MoCA adapter?

dire condor
#

frontier fios one is FCA251. GOCOAX is WF-803M

#

Fios using moca for gigabit is new to me. It used to be if you were over 150 they ran ethernet from the ONT

#

Which is what I was prepared for. So this threw me for a loop.

modern reef
#

I am just going through the manual of that adapter real quick

dire condor
#

The adaptors look idential except for Fios one has a LAN/WAN switch and the gocoax has a TV passthrough but no switch

#

ok

modern reef
#

What I can tell you is this. Due to using different model adapters I cannot and they shouldn't have either, guarantee proper functionality between different MoCA adapters. It to me sounds like Verizon one isn't compatible in some way with the goCoax one. Even though these devices are sold, they are technically still a niche device, and as goes with most niche network appliances they tend to only work with the same model. Kinda like a Powerline adapter. I will continue to dig and see what I find though.

dire condor
#

I would LOVE to buy more FCA251s

#

but that seems imlossible

modern reef
#

It is likely under a different brand name

dire condor
#

I was just trying to run gocoax moca from a LAN port on my router to the other gocoax in the living room

#

I have a splitter in the office going to the fios and gocoax adapters

#

then gocoax ethernet toan on router

modern reef
#

What is the model of the splitter?

dire condor
modern reef
#

Can you send a pic of the splitter?

dire condor
modern reef
#

Good they gave you an active splitter. So many ISP give out passive ones

dire condor
#

gigabit speeds come thru that splitter so i didnt think it was that

#

thats actually an old splitter i already had

#

I just want to pass a router port through moca from my office for my living room

#

Freakin fios :(

#

Thank you for your help

waxen scroll
#

thats a passive splitter bruhhh

modern reef
#

No problem,
I also just realized that splitter you posted is a MoCA 2.0 splitter. That being the case one of 2 things could happen here, either this splitter is going to filter out the 2.5 frequency or drop the degrade/slow the signal. What I would recommend is getting a MoCA 2.5 splitter and having a tech go out to your location make sure other splitter that you may have behind your walls are also MoCA 2.5. Houses can have multiple splitters depending on phisical topology and of course in order for the MoCA network to work properly they all need to be 2.5.

dire condor
#

That was my thinking too but I get 960 megabit speed tests through that splitter

#

so Im confused

#

The gocoax has a web interface with a bunch of settings for frequencies... maybe theres something there I can do to get them on the same page?

modern reef
#

That is possible, but due to the nature of MoCA and how it can be finicky with splitters you're always better off making sure that you don't have a weak link in the chain.

And yes, if you have access to the web interfaces (I am not familiar with goCOAX) you'll want to make sure the frequency range is between 500Mhz and 1650Mhz.

dire condor
#

they need to be set to lan right?

modern reef
#

Yes

#

God the documentation for these things is sparse. I am going to assume the MPS pairing work similar the Powerline pairing in that you hold one until it blinks and then hold the other. Unless the manual that came with it specifies differently.

dire condor
#

the manual is garbage

#

only useful thing it says is how to access the web interface

modern reef
#

Were you able to change the frequency or sent to MoCA 2.0?

dire condor
#

working on that now

modern reef
#

Sorry for misspelling, do I’m on my phone.

dire condor
#

Welllllll shit

dire condor
#

ok so I disabled D Ext and D Low, rebooted and now the units are talking

#

however

#

There appears to be more work to do because thaaaats terrible

modern reef
#

Let me look, I was eating.

#

Lets try adjusting the LOF to 1250

#

Be sure to reboot the adapters after doing so

dire condor
#

1250 for both adapters?

#

lmao I might give up

#

that looked good in the diagnostic but then....

burnt epoch
primal ice
#

the coax connector would be at the ONT

modern reef
#

Yes, both will be 1250

dire condor
#

Even when I get them talking to each other and the diagnostic on the adapters web interface shows 3500 I still get insanely shitty speed tests. Super stumped.

#

I just need to hijack a Fios truck and get some more FCA251s. Yeah thats it. :)

late spoke
#

hey guys, does anyone know some VPN provider which uses OpenVPN, and the IP is different after every connect ? preferably czech/slovak endpoint IP

dire condor
#

Not cost effective and I'm renting this house

peak cloak
#

moca adapters are more expensive

dire condor
#

They're definitely not more expensive than having a pro run ethernet

peak cloak
#

oh, yeah. I ran ethernet myself

#

yeah having a "pro" do it is expensive

dire condor
#

You're welcome to hop into the attic and run some ethernet for me though

#

😄

peak cloak
#

if it was my house I would do it XD

dire condor
#

Did you run drops or get more creative?

tame carbon
#

@dire condor if you can't even run basic ethernet wires, you are not worthy of #networking

#

Show of hands, if you've never crimped RJ45 terminations

peak cloak
#

I ran 1 in the basement and then up to my parents's bedroom (where my mom works from home), another one to my stairwell for an access point, and the 4 to the TV/Media area. This is all on the first floor so it was easy. There were already 2 ethernet runs going to the upstairs so I just continued to run to my PC and my dad's work from home setup

humble cloak
#

hi! anyone who can help me? My pc shows this (gigabit) but whenever im downloading files or drag+drop to my NAS i get a max of 99.8mbps...

dire condor
#

I can do that, thats the easy part. My worry is going into the attic.. and potentially breaking something.

tame carbon
#

@humble cloak is the NAS connected with gigabit?

humble cloak
#

yep

tame carbon
#

clearly isnt

#

Theres a bottleneck somewhere, 100M (fast ethernet)

humble cloak
#

also my speedtest over wifi shows anywhere between 200 to 250 mbps while the same speedtest over ethernet is 99mbps

tame carbon
#

10MB/s facepalm

humble cloak
#

that is +- 99mbps

tame carbon
#

yep

humble cloak
#

that is not gigabit

tame carbon
#

correct

humble cloak
#

for internal network

#

on cat5e cables

tame carbon
peak cloak
#

what is the speed on the NAS

humble cloak
#

gigabit

peak cloak
#

can you check it

#

what is it negotiating to

humble cloak
#

from anywhere in the house i get up to 250 on wifi down from the nas

tame carbon
#

@humble cloak how is the NAS connected to the network

#

and how is the PC connected to that network

humble cloak
#

i get +- 100MB/s over another cable

tame carbon
#

is there a switch inbetween?

humble cloak
#

cat5e directly in the router for nas, cat5e in a gigabit switch for my pc

tame carbon
#

@humble cloak I don't care about the cable. I care about the active link speed

humble cloak
#

which is?

tame carbon
#

well, your PC reports it has 1gbit to whatever it is connected to

humble cloak
#

all rated for gigabit

#

10/100/1000

tame carbon
#

rates is one thing

#

but is it actually 1G ?

#

you can tell by the lights on the front

humble cloak
#

tl-sg105 ver 6

peak cloak
#

are the lights green or orange?

humble cloak
#

green

tame carbon
#

@peak cloak orange is 10M

#

he's looking for both lights on

#

one blinks

peak cloak
tame carbon
#

if only a single light blinks, and the other is off, its 100M

#

or I might be wrong

peak cloak
#

huh idk

tame carbon
#

amber is gigabit. derp

#

my cisco switch is not even the same

peak cloak
#

huh, that's wrong

tame carbon
#

yes

#

I was just about to say

#

screw u oracle.

humble cloak
#

It doesn’t like to upload a video

#

But blinking green with no second light at all

tame carbon
#

@humble cloak what are the exact devices between your PC and your NAS

#

like, make me a little diagram

humble cloak
peak cloak
#

oh that just has one light

tame carbon
#

cheapskate tplink

#

fuuuu

#

ok

#

@humble cloak is your NAS and your PC on the same switch?

humble cloak
#

PC-5 port switch shown in pic-8 port tp-link switch-fritz box-nas

#

all gigabit or above

#

router is 2.5 i think

tame carbon
#

@humble cloak if a cable is not properly connected, it will default to 100M

#

and I guarantee you, one of the cables there, is running at 100M

humble cloak
#

it did work sometime tho

peak cloak
#

is it a managed or dumb switch?

humble cloak
#

dumb

#

all of em except the router

peak cloak
#

A wire in the rj45 could have come loose

#

idk

tame carbon
#

Dust, not properly plugged in, damaged or kinked cable

humble cloak
#

(in the router it also says that both have a gigabit link)

tame carbon
#

electrical noise

#

if you have a bad link, speed will be lower

humble cloak
#

but limited to 100

tame carbon
#

yeah, you only need 4 wires for 100M

#

gigabit requires all 8

humble cloak
#

like, specifically 99.8

#

aaah

#

makes sense

tame carbon
#

if gigabit is not being gigabit-y

#

then its usually bad cable

peak cloak
#

yeah usually when it's right on 100, it's the physical link

humble cloak
tame carbon
#

and you mentioned your wifi is fine, >100M

#

so the links between NAS -> Wifi

humble cloak
#

WOW I SEE THE BROKEN CABLE

#

a white cable is broken in that pic

tame carbon
#

port 5 seems busted

humble cloak
#

of the bottom one

tame carbon
#

:3 sorry, had to post a comparison to a semi neat setup xD

humble cloak
peak cloak
#

if you have a crimper and a rj45 connector it's an easy fix

humble cloak
#

aah i think my dad has some around somewhere

tame carbon
#

cut off old connector

#

splice new one on

#

also, make sure you check what wiring standard the other side uses

#

it has to be identical ;)

humble cloak
#

that makes sense

#

issue, this is the long boi cable running through the walls

tame carbon
#

There's two standards

peak cloak
#

I like to put the wire jacket all the way in

#

so it gets crimped as well

tame carbon
#

@peak cloak mee too. if I manage lmao

dire condor
#

dont want that crosstalk

humble cloak
#

why does windows say it has a gigabit link tho?

tame carbon
#

@humble cloak misreport?

peak cloak
#

wait where does that cable go @humble cloak

#

to pc or router?

humble cloak
#

the lowest one goes to another switch

#

which goes to the router

peak cloak
#

ah

humble cloak
#

OH

#

that makes sense

tame carbon
#

and NAS is on router, so gets fine speed

peak cloak
#

router and pc only show the negotiation speed

humble cloak
#

yes

tame carbon
#

except everything through that busted cable, is 100M

#

there u go

humble cloak
#

thank youuu

#

ive had this issue the past 6 months

tame carbon
#

replace the cable or reterminate the connection

humble cloak
#

new connection it is

#

i dont feel like running cables through walls again

tame carbon
#

You can just cut off the old rj45 jack

#

and put another one on

humble cloak
#

yeah

humble cloak
tame carbon
#

I ran fiber through my attic xD

#

my LAN is 10G capable lol

humble cloak
#

and that was with a cable already being all the way to the attic already

#

damn

#

just had to bore a hole

#

and some cable things

tame carbon
#

bore a hole, stick a PVC pipe through it

#

ezgame

humble cloak
tame carbon
#

The switch I use for 10G networking ^

#

my router and server are both connected over 10G with this

#

the server hosts a NAS :)

humble cloak
#

nice

#

i just have a synology nas

tame carbon
#

I just grabbed off the shelf parts

#

put them in a 2U case

humble cloak
#

once im actually earning more money i want a rack + a rackmount server

tame carbon
#

Mini ITX B450, Ryzen 2600 with 16GB ECC memory

#

and a dual 10G network card

#

and bunch of harddrives

dire condor
#

SFP+ is that the same as direct attached copper?

humble cloak
#

but first a replacement for my intel NUC

tame carbon
#

@dire condor DAC cables have SFP at the end yes

tame carbon
peak cloak
#

this is mine

tame carbon
#

@dire condor thats a fiber link with SFP+

peak cloak
#

outdated, I now have fiber

#

I need to get meyself a patch panel

#

and a pdu

tame carbon
#

I have a 10G DAC cable lying around somewhere

#

its the only ubiquiti product I own

#

xD

dire condor
#

full 10G setup under a grand?

tame carbon
#

easily

#

you need way less

peak cloak
#

fiber is cheap

tame carbon
#

10G copper with RJ45 is more expensive

peak cloak
#

so are the sfp+ modules

tame carbon
#

fiber itself is no major cost concern

#

30 meters fiber costs 5 bucks

#

fiber modules, depending on the fiber type, cost anywhere from 8-15 bucks

#

you need two of those

#

The only expensive part

humble cloak
#

i want 25gbps

tame carbon
#

is the network interfaces themselves.

#

That dual 10G intel card I have

#

Intel X520-DA2

#

costs like 250 bucks

#

but there are cheaper 10G cards for only 60 bucks

#

@humble cloak good luck finding the networking equipment for that

#

10G is still affordable as a consumer

humble cloak
#

lol

#

i dont have money nor a pcie slot haha

peak cloak
#

what sfp standard is 24gbps

humble cloak
#

fibre

tame carbon
#
peak cloak
#

is it like qsfp?

tame carbon
#

This is the router that powers it all ^

#

Its another 200 bucks

#

add that 10G switch, 160 bucks

humble cloak
tame carbon
#

you're looking at around 400 usd, for a router + switch + a pair of fiber modules & fiber

tame carbon
#

ye

#

but have you seen the cost

peak cloak
#

yeah

#

QSFP+

tame carbon
#

yeah those modules are expensive

#

thats a 10x price increase

#

@peak cloak I mean, thats one thing. you have the NIC, and the module

#

next

#

you'll need a switch capable of doing this

peak cloak
#

yeah lol

tame carbon
dusty osprey
#

I hate when YouTube gives me a ad to Cisco Nexus™️ Switches.

#

The price next to that, I always KEKWLaugh

waxen scroll
#

i just bought some

shrewd blade
#

I have 6 lol

waxen scroll
#

mine

#

👀 🤩

#

@clear igloo let's play make an IPN

hollow marlin
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@waxen scroll Only 9504s 😦

waxen scroll
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im not giving you more money

clear igloo
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gib money pl0x

tame carbon
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@hollow marlin 🤣

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I knew there was a wedge coming...

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just did not expect that

peak cloak
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wait, that's offical

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lol

waxen scroll
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they had one for ASR 9k too I think

tame carbon
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if you ran that on regular TV ads

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I bet everyone would be like: wat

thorny vector
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@dusty epoch It should, although your provider may do some region blocking/checking

peak cloak
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like T-Mobile may check if you are in the US before they will allow you to call

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exactly, so it may not let call, but tech wise it should work

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idk

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vpn may work

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but they may also check for vpn ip's

thorny vector
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What he's saying is that it'll be a known VPN IP address, and they might not like it

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Should be able to do both

hollow marlin
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@tame carbon 2 months ago we have moved US wide deployment for services and the problem is we have to outsource installers until staff is built up. I was looking at the Mikrotik LTAP LTE6 because the ability for LTE and console. Before I get my hands on one decided to plug in my USB console into my hAP AC2 and it popped right up and could console right from it. Going to be a game changer. No screen share BS, just take this, plug in the console and let me go at it

tame carbon
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@hollow marlin the other usb models also have lte support with a dongle

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its neat

hollow marlin
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It was just something I got excited about. Couple other applications I might be able to use this for for OOB at some of our locations

waxen scroll
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@hollow marlin we did this a long time ago at 2nd job

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they bought routers, hacked them, the routers would connect to a datacenter wifi network and NAT to a lantronix spider KVM glued onto it.

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the KVM got power VIA USB from the host it attached to

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it was a colo so every rack belonged to someone else, so not like we could install an enterprise solution

hollow marlin
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I plan on setting it and be mobile. As far as models that have SIM slots, none have 5v supplies unless I was missing a model. But dang, this is going to change the entire setup process for these deployments

thick minnow
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Whats a good modem only?

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I live in the UK

peak cloak
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what protocol is used in the UK, I only know that in the US it's DOCISS

zealous tulip
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Hey guys i need help.I accidentally deleted the network- manager and I don't know what version to install

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I am using Parrot Os 4.9

modern reef
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Parrot is Debian. Should be “sudo apt install NetworkManager”

peak cloak
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if you don't have internet rn you could use ip

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to use apt

zealous tulip
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but i cant connect my wifi because i deleted it

peak cloak
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I think there is a lower level linux thing for wifi, let me check

modern reef
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Thanks!

fossil stirrup
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what is the worst someone can do if they find your open port? i thought that they can just see the data that is coming out of that one port, aka see the video you are playing if you are using that port for say plex.

modern reef
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They can see unencrypted data using that port. If it is a standard port lets say 3389 (Windows RDP) they can use that as a hint you are using RDP and utilize whatever exploits are available to RDP and get into your network.

fossil stirrup
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what if i just have the one port open, say TCP: 32400 for plex

modern reef
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Although a sufficient firewall will stop most "hackers".

That would just tell anyone doing a port scan that you may be using Plex and thus look for a Plex exploit.

fossil stirrup
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when you say firewall you mean just the windows firewall, or should i get a better one.

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also what is i change my plex to a different port other then the default one. Will they still be able to tell i am using that port for plex.

modern reef
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The one on your router should be sufficient. Unless you are actively exposing yourself. You can change it to whatever you like. The only way they would tell you are using Plex at that point is if they do packet inspection. But even then Plex is encrypted if I’m not mistaken.

peak cloak
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some of what @modern reef is correct, but at the same time kinda wrong (idk how to describe it)

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well actually it doesn't matter the port that much, but the service that listens on that port

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but most services have a commonly used port and default to one (ex: http and ssh)

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if you have an internet facing ssh, it's not inhenerly bad but you need to secure it correctly (Ex: don't username and password logins, use ssh keys with an additional password for better security)

unborn sluice
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Most services are secured now

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soo

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even plex can do HTTPS

peak cloak
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yeah, it's more about the login

unborn sluice
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and it's not like seeing the open port and the magic begins

peak cloak
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some services aren't made to be internet facing

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@modern reef like it's pretty common knowledge to not have rdp internet facing

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instead you would want to use a vpn to access the internal network first, and then rdp

fossil stirrup
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so if i change the default port of jellyfin and only open the one port on my router i should be fine.

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jellyfin does have ssl and https but i am not to sure how to set that up, when i tried to enable it, it said i need letsencrypt setup

peak cloak
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https is for transport layer security, it won't do anything about people trying to brute force the login

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letsencrypt is relatively easy, easiest with the DNS-01 challenge, but you need to have a domain

modern reef
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@peak cloak Yes it is common knowledge, I was just using it as an example since it's the first thing that came into my head.

waxen saddle
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I use nginx-manager in a docker container to manage my https certs. Super simple and easy

unborn sluice
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yea, let the bots do the work

thorny vector
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No, EVERYONE needs to roll their own certs, and manage their own CA /s

unborn sluice
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Agreed

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You can create

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Let's roaldi

thorny vector
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Already do.

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Got my CA signed by sectigo

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And can requests new certs internally via a CA api on one of my windows servers

unborn sluice
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Can i request from you then

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lel

thorny vector
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lol, I guess technically you could, if you wanted to use a subdomain of my domain

unborn sluice
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oh

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I was expecting a CA that can give certs

thorny vector
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Yeah. They are certs, but I can only sign domains that are a subdomain of mine

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I can't do it for other domains XD

peak cloak
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How does one because a CA

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At least for my subdomains

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Because for now I'm just using a wildcard cert