networking

[topaz patrol]

Every single Mac has wifi in it, so i guess from apple’s perspective it would be a useless feature

[pseudo blade]

Apple would use that logic

Just look at their amazing mice

[austere bison]

thats probably gonna bbe worse cause where i stay my mobile data service is not the best

[pseudo blade]

Yeah the trick is to not use the mobile data

Android will share its WiFi when USB tethering

iPhone users apparently need not apply

[topaz patrol]

I’m sure there’s one stupid Android skin that doesn’t let you do it for some reason

[pseudo blade]

I still remember when Samsung broke USB tethering for like four years

I tried a bunch of different phones and computers

[pseudo blade]

Personal Hotspot sounds like WiFi itself

Meh

[topaz patrol]

Doesn’t even let you go in the settings when mobile data is switched off

[opal pagoda]

i also highly dislike that iphones cannot share its connection via usb to ethernet adapter

[lone crane]

not relly sure what is going on here but it works

10 gig gaming

[opal pagoda]

its a crossover cable

[lone crane]

yea was thinking the same thing, but im getting 10gig

[amber urchin]

crossover just means it is intended for card to card connections without a switch - though I seem to recall switches being smart enough now to just not care if the cable is standard or crossover.

[lone crane]

it confused the HECK out of me since this is in wall network stuff

its meant for some TV thing really

and im still so confused why it was not just using you know not crossover

[clear igloo]

auto-mdix from the year 2000 or so

[amber urchin]

Yeah, I remember ethernet hubs. lol

[lone crane]

i feel so bad for how much hate i have given the installers

tbf i never said anything direct to em

but god dam has this journey of local 10gig without having a cable in the middle of my floor been wonky

[clear igloo]

25g when?

fiber of course 🙂

[lone crane]

never

[amber urchin]

I'm running 25g point to point between my desktop and server. I wouldn't expand that further though as I have no real reason to.

[lone crane]

my 10 gig is already overkill

i only got 400MB on dem HDDs

[outer stone]

hello

[amber urchin]

haha yeah, I got 25 and my 4 drive pool couldn't even saturate 10 - so now I have 16 drives. And even they can't saturate the 25 gig link so now I have ten 240gb ssds I intend to stripe into a read cache.

[opal pagoda]

Or you can have couple of nvme drives

[amber urchin]

Yes and no. I'm not going to get 30TB usable space out of NVMEs on X99 as it does not support bifurcation.

[opal pagoda]

do you have one of those chinesium x99 motherboard

[amber urchin]

No, I have the best one, the Taichi.

[opal pagoda]

it should support bifurcation then

x99 is a workstation platform

[kind pivot]

With systemd on Linux

How would you go about restraining one service to only one network interface and also have nothing else on the server use this network interface ?

[peak cloak]

what's the usecase here?

[kind pivot]

Have one service use one specific network interface

Have everything else behave normally and not use at all this specific network interface

[peak cloak]

you just restated what you said before

[kind pivot]

Uh well, yeah lmao

[peak cloak]

like the usecase itself, there may be better options

it's torrenting isn't it?

[kind pivot]

It's not really TOS friendly you know

🤣

But yeah it is

[peak cloak]

well for linux ISOs qbittorrent has an option in the UI to bind it to a specific interface

[amber urchin]

There are apparently some modded BIOSes that add support but they can be buggy. I guess a few of the boards had it, but the Taichi didn't get it. It was much more common with X299.

[kind pivot]

yes but my wireguard interface would also route everything else through it by default, since I guess I need 0.0.0.0 as "allowed IPs" in the wg conf

I don't want that

[peak cloak]

I forgot how I set it up, but I think I was able to set the default route in linux to not go out wg

@kind pivot look up DEFROUTE=no

[kind pivot]

I'll check that thanks

[ornate jungle]

I'm not versed in Wireguard specifically, but most VPN software / configurations should allow Split Tunneling both on a per-network (domain, ip address range) basis, and on a per-app basis. Assuming your configuration supports the latter, you should just be able to say "This <APP/PROCESS> always use <VPN>, everything else use <NOTVPN>."

[amber urchin]

Is there a reason you can't just run the vpn in a VM? You wouldn't have access to local network though if that was still a goal. My solution for that was to set up a router in a vm that the vpn vm connects to and the rules only allow that vm to access the IP of the VPN and to access the IP of the SMB share.

I would use something like ipleak dot net or one provided by your VPN provider to ensure it is all working properly if you attempt it. DNS leaks were a struggle I was having at one point, don't recall why.

[graceful pendant]

this seems the right channel i guess... i got given one of these, idk the specs other than it would've sold for £1000, how good is it?

[kind pivot]

It's probably not that good

[amber urchin]

It's a random box without model numbers

[opal pagoda]

one zero too many

[amber urchin]

I like me some used enterprise gear - but it is rarely power efficient.

[graceful pendant]

well then why was there another one which was the same year but a cheaper model £800 then?

[ornate jungle]

Impossible to know how good it is without the full system specs. (Or the Service Tag number found on a sticker, usually on the rear of the chassis.)

[opal pagoda]

my guess is something like 128gb less ram

[graceful pendant]

maybe

[graceful pendant]

i'll dig it up on saturday

i've just been out of computer specs for so long i know a 3090 is good and i checked a couple months ago now there's a 40 and fifty series cards like damn i have NOT been paying attention

[graceful pendant]

iirc its 5 years old if that helps

[amber urchin]

no it doesn't really.

Given it's standy upy nature, it's likely intended for small businesses and very well could have something like a consumer socket i3 rather than a proper server CPU with quad channel memory and more than 24 PCIE lanes.

[graceful pendant]

it had 128gb at least and an entire school network ran on it and it wasn't a slow network either

about 200 computers

[opal pagoda]

i dont believe 200 vm's ran on it, you are thinking of domain controller

or a nas

[amber urchin]

Well then it's a good thing he didn't say 200 vms ran on it.

[graceful pendant]

i didn't say 200Vms

[amber urchin]

That being said, you don't really need a lot of power to run networking, or storage for that matter.

[graceful pendant]

i don't know what it's called but it ran the logins and that also ran the network cameras

i think it was a poweredge t340

[ornate jungle]

So it was likely being used as a Domain Controller / Server of sorts. As to how it was setup, who knows?

[ornate jungle]

If it is a T340... those are still being sold by Dell (according to their website) so it might be worth more than a couple hundred if the configuration warrants.
https://i.dell.com/sites/csdocuments/Product_Docs/en/dell-emc-poweredge-t340-spec-sheet.pdf

[graceful pendant]

of course a couple years older and it had a lotta ram

i asked for a server that could run factorio and for some reason all the others were 15-20yo that they weren't using

[ornate jungle]

Enterprise / Server hardware ages out just like consumer grade hardware, but one can sometimes get double the lifespan out of it for certain use-cases, depending on the hardware. Tis why many homelab folks look for deals on old Enterprise gear as a tinkering / learning platform they can chuck in their basement.

[ornate jungle]

I hope that's not all you want this for lol. Would be a very power hungry FactoIO server. You can use a Dell/HP/Lenovo mini PC to run game servers these days.

[graceful pendant]

have you seen the cpu performance cost of late game factorio?

i already have 16gb ram and that's not enough

and a 5 3600x

also i am considering selling it because i don't actually know what i'm gonna do with something this much

[ornate jungle]

Yes, I have, and it really boils down to number of players, what you're doing in the server, and mods, same as Minecraft servers. If you're playing with say... 5 friends on an unmodded server, you don't need enterprise gear. If you're playing with 20+ friends, including that one person who always has to push limits... then yeah, get as much power as you can afford.

[graceful pendant]

all it boils down to in facotorio is how close you actually are to meeting green circuit demand, which is the real performance cost

[bitter thistle]

Do Z790 boards have known USB issues?

[topaz patrol]

Uh, ma’am, this is #networking

[bitter thistle]

My bad my bad im on the browser discord so its updating slow

[ripe hatch]

I got a free piece of enterprise networking equipment

Sadly it’s Meraki so it might as well be e waste cuz I ain’t paying that expensive subscription for basically a home router

[ebon sierra]

Any suggestions on a Cisco Mangaged PoE switch to get. Need 16 ports min, and dont wanna break the bank

Looking at a used C2960X for $125, but there are some other smalled Cisco ones (Since I dont have a rack or easily able to put a rack mounted switch where its going), but they are all expensive asf

[ripe hatch]

Just a heads up all the Cisco CBS switches are discontinued

That model you mentioned is a Catalyst which isn’t, but you see a lot of CBS switches still for sale online

[opal pagoda]

yea, straight to trash

[opal pagoda]

most c2960x switches are eol too

but they still work
cbs are a problem as they dont run real IOS so their cli is bit fucked up (linksys develped os)

[bronze swift]

I’ve always had to replace my router 1-3 times a year bc of thunderstorms but this time, it actually doesn’t fry the whole router

[pseudo blade]

That sucks. I'm usually pretty dismissive of extra special isolation gear but at that rate I'd definitely be looking at cable/ethernet lightning arrestors.

Would get very expensive, very fast

[pseudo blade]

Wrong type of CPU performance. Server hardware's generally designed to do a lot at one time rather than a few things very fast and Factorio needs the latter.

That said, For most games any turnip will do as long as it's an x86-64 turnip. For anything newer expect a modern budget CPU to run rings around any used Xeon at a fraction of the power

[graceful pendant]

still faster than my current cpu

[pseudo blade]

Don't count on it

[high bronze]

just go with a high end desktop cpu and run it as server if you want the max performance for factrio

9800x3d is as much performance as you could possibly get right now afaik

you can still get 4x 48GB ECC UDimms in a normal mainboard, redudant psus and stuff like that, as well as rack mounted cases for atx boards

[opal pagoda]

notable mention:
idile power consumption of xeons succckkkk as they are designed to run at 100% for years and not idile

[noble frost]

Hi i need help picking a good router for gaming. My provider speed is 200 mbit download and upload and ping is around 4ms. I want the lowest latency possible and want to know if i should get a router with QoS.

[fervent brook]

You couldn't get a router WITHOUT QoS if you tried

Anyway, for the best ping, the best WiFi router is, anything with ethernet ports. and since your speed is above 100mbps, get gigabit.

And then use ethernet

https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Internet-Network-Shielded-2000Mhz/dp/B0838YW8PL

[kind pivot]

@amber urchin @peak cloak
I've found how to do what I wanted

In the wireguard conf, in interface, I had to specify a custom routing table Table = 40 (arbitrary number)

Then add a rule in this separate table :
ip -4 rule add from client-wg-ip/32 lookup 40

Then when a process binds to the interface it will work, and other processes that don't won't use it
curl --interface wg0 blabla.com for example

Btw this rule only works for ipv4, but it's the same principle with ipv6, just another routing rule

[noble frost]

And what about gaming optimised QoS? I found ASUS GT-AX 11000 (very expensive router) just for 113 euro

[topaz patrol]

I would steer clear, that's 7 years old at this point

[noble frost]

Okay but its a high end router and for the price. Do you think that gaming QoS doesnt make a difference when there is alot of people using the internet and downloading stuff or something?

[topaz patrol]

Short answer no

The "gaming" is just marketing gobbledygook

[fervent brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387022787480387605/1357499485466398720/20250403_163748.jpg

The tiny dot between the 8 and the 4 is a decimal point

To be fair, it is a rather low end AX router

[noble frost]

And u get good latency?

[fervent brook]

how would i test it? do you have a prefered method?

[topaz patrol]

Wired or wireless

[pseudo blade]

Ah, but you can buy a router with fixed and suboptimal QoS

And there's little practical difference between latency going to the sky when the link is saturated, and latency going to the sky when the link is saturated.

[pseudo blade]

Yeah usually the QoS features on these things aren't worth jackshit unfortunately

I've had prioritisation help in games exactly once - when I made my own shaping policy on a Mikrotik and shaped all traffic to a Chromecast running Netflix on a 3mbps NBN Fixed Wireless connection.

[fervent brook]

"latency going to the sky when the link is saturated, and latency going to the sky when the link is saturated"

[pseudo blade]

Some day I might play with cake/fq_codel but uh... fast speeds and live alone now

[topaz patrol]

Oof that older equipment is quite the treat, isn't it 🤣

[pseudo blade]

Four towers in a chain on one microwave link back to actual fiber, gen 1 WNTD

[topaz patrol]

Oof. Gen 1. Yeah

[pseudo blade]

There were no treats to be had 🤣 😢

It was beautful for the two months we had it before the ADSL subscribers saturated the links

50/20 > 3/8

[topaz patrol]

Those v1 wntds are a real pain nowadays, stupid procedure to get them upgraded

[pseudo blade]

A few of my friends on the same infra were bittorrent hounds. Cool people but sometimes I wanted to go over in a storm and uh... 🔨

Oh noes your external equipment is broke

Then Netflix came along in force and it was moot because everyone was killing it

[topaz patrol]

The FUP came far too late, if there was a FUP it would've been a better experience

But then by the time nbn trialed a FUP the v3 wntds were already getting put in

[pseudo blade]

A fair user policy wouldn't have saved it by the year mark

720p Netflix in the evening is not unfair

...even if 200 houses are doing it simultaneously...

[topaz patrol]

Absolutely not, but if a FUP similar to sky muster (plus) was implemented it would've been a little better

Although not possible on fixed wireless

[pseudo blade]

I think a lot of people would have been mad, after being put on a network that was frequently slower than ADSL1 with invoices promising 6-8 times greater throughput

Because yes the only option to do that would be more shaping based on consumption

On satellite I understand they gave the ISPs the quotas and if they shaped you or punished you that wasn't NBN co's problem

[topaz patrol]

Depends, Skymuster, Skymuster plus and sky muster plus premium are all very different products

[pseudo blade]

I'm pleased by the lack of ambiguity

[topaz patrol]

Skymuster plus is layer 3, skymuster and skymuster plus premium are layer 2-ish NEBS

[pseudo blade]

Nvm no flavours

Telstra didn't do it

[topaz patrol]

Yeah Telstra has never done skymuster

And they don't really do FW either

[pseudo blade]

They did FW

[topaz patrol]

They do, but only 25/5 and 75/10

[pseudo blade]

They did 25/5 and 50/20 until the no promises model came in

[topaz patrol]

Even now

[pseudo blade]

I'm looking at Telstra consumer plans now and dear god

[topaz patrol]

Lol the $93 /25/4

[pseudo blade]

It never ceases to impress me that they still have customers

[topaz patrol]

They're a good high water mark, makes everyone else look good

[pseudo blade]

Yeah but it's hard to do worse unless you go Belong, and they own that. Different problem though, same bad value

Exchange price for service

[topaz patrol]

Still better than any of the TPG group

[pseudo blade]

Nah I could be convinced

While I'm not paying for it, Aussiebroadband is good though

[topaz patrol]

Yeah, can't go wrong

[pseudo blade]

Telstra doesn't even offer my plan for any price

[topaz patrol]

Yeah they'd want you on Telstra EA

[pseudo blade]

Telstra wants an impossible amount of money for it

Also they don't return calls

[topaz patrol]

I don't think they offer 1000/400

[pseudo blade]

It'd be 1000/1000 EE or go away yes

And I've forgotten the price tag for that

I don't wish for the trauma to resurface

It wasn't home office internet money for people who don't answer to "Gina" though

Ok ok maybe the owner of Atlassian

[topaz patrol]

Really? I thought they would’ve wanted you on Telstra ea

Cheaper for them than nbn

[pseudo blade]

Oh no they legit did not call me back

[topaz patrol]

Lmao

Sounds like Telstra wholesale

They take a week to reply to every email

[pseudo blade]

I called them about a SIM fleet for a project, which they also did not call me back for

Again I wonder how they could possibly aquire customers

[topaz patrol]

How big

Probably too small, a job for the retail store

[pseudo blade]

I was talking 100 SIMs? Not huge but not bad...

I ended up using my friends in that retail store to get a few special privileges, like my two boxes of unactivated SIMs :P

Just called them up and referred users to them, gave them a SIM. Moderately dodgy but it worked. Kinda gave up when I didn't make the sales I wanted anyways

[topaz patrol]

Amplitel seems to be the least useless of Telstra

And the email team are surprisingly responsive too

[pseudo blade]

Don't try calling Telstra directly if you find yourself in the possession of their blank SIM cards...

I sat through the anti-fraud training. I know how that'd go

[topaz patrol]

It is annoying how difficult fleets of this size is though

[pseudo blade]

Most of them simply had unacceptably low data caps

[topaz patrol]

I had to worry about ~80 earlier this year and what we've ended up with is certainly not ideal

[pseudo blade]

I also needed full coverage

[topaz patrol]

Yeah so it's Telstra or Telstra

[pseudo blade]

Pretty much. That project's long dead for new sales and I guess I'm happier with the SIMs not being my problem anyways even if it would have meant recurring revenue

[topaz patrol]

Recurring pain. No thanks to being a middleman like that

[pseudo blade]

Just sold my devices instead

[wicked glen]

Hey peeps - not sure if I should ask here or another channel. I need to create a solution for a highschool video editing lab. I had some ideas that I was hoping to bounce off someone.
We basically have a lab with some really old imacs which were being used with Final cut. The video files themselves were being stored on the local disks on the individual machines.

What I'm proposing is replacing the macs with mac minis. These would continue to be connected to the wifi for the sake of internet access and management. However locally, within the lab, they would be wired to a fast switch and a fast NAS.

My main concern is to prevent the NAS from being accessible outside the lab and I don't have the networking hardware at the school level to manage that.

If I had to simplify it, I could just buy high speed USB SSDs for file storage.

[sweet sierra]

Hello,

so my company is opening a new office, and as soon as that happens I want to do the internet the right way this time. Although I am good with computers, just never needed to learn networking, now it seems I really do 😂

What do you guys think the best solution would be to maximize what I'm paying for provider wise. I have comcast business with 2 GB/S

We just had comcast put in their setup for the current place, and it's insane. Stops working randomly. Wireless runs at about 500 MB/S, what's funny is ETHERNET runs at only 60 MB/S. So really looking to put in my own hardware so it works properly, because they definitely won't fix it.

[pseudo blade]

I think I can hear it begging you for a ~6U wallmount rack, that's just sad. Don't like the cable soup either - what's going on with the coax splitter?
I suspect based on your wording you're especially green on networking, else you wouldn't be using GB/S when you almost certainly mean gbps.

60mbps is an interesting number. ~90mbps would indicate some kind of cabling or hardware issue, possibly a bad or incredibly old cable, 60mbps is nothing specific. Do you perhaps have another switch, maybe some cameras somewhere else and you're sticking yourself and them on the other side of a bad cable?

[pseudo blade]

If you're totally new to this and need skills now... considered hiring someone to design something for you? A good network setup pays for itself, as you've discovered.

If you want to learn this stuff for yourself you can always go do network+/CCNT and be prepared for future scenarios rather than learning while doing here.

[sweet sierra]

This was all comcast. I haven't even touched it. It's absolutely horrendous 😭 😂

There are a ton of unnecessary switches I've seen, there are cameras as well.

I'm currently sharing an office with another company, and this is the setup that they have, so when I have a dedicated building, just looking for the best hardware I can put in there so I can do it properly. I'm fairly decent with technology in general, but also have the resources to hire somebody if I need to

Also, it is almost exactly 90 mbps, the whole ethernet being slow I'm assuming is just what the switches are rated for, but I'm not even worried about these just figuring out the hardware for the new setup

Also have a ton of printers which are always a disaster because of the network

Comcast is honestly a joke

[peak cloak]

Afaik Comcast only deals with setting up their router

They don't do any local side networking

[pseudo blade]

Perhaps that's where the problem lies.
Nothing goes worse than nobody's job...

[tight pecan]

This. Wallmount rack, 1Gbps switch with 10Gbps uplink ports, maybe a rackmount PDU so you can get rid of some of the power spaghetti

[tight pecan]

Comcast only deals with the stuff that goes into your building, the poor LAN setup is not their fault 🤣

[topaz patrol]

Get a professional to do it

[topaz patrol]

[ornate jungle]

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[opal pagoda]

Rack is badly needed, that cisco switch is managed, if you have login for it you can start diagnosis there, if not then factory reset it and make a new config (i suspect this is single vlan scenario)

[slim girder]

Hey. I'm new to networking and I wanna get rid of the AT&T provided Humax BGW320-500 since it's begun to be flaky. It's a fiber connection directly to my place.

I'm looking at Ubiquiti but I'm open to other options.

[amber urchin]

You know, it really stinks that there's no way to pre-fill lancache with steam games you don't own. A friend of mine is coming up next week and I'm gonna have a fresh windows install waiting for him to be able to game on and it'd be funny if I had his most/recent played games pre-cached so he could download them at however fast the 14700k would decompress or 10 gigabit if it's that much faster than my 5700x3d that can only pull at most 3. lol

[ornate jungle]

I'm not an AT&T customer, don't live in USA, and haven't personally dabbled with PON stuff, but if your service is currently Fiber to the Home (FTTH) and you want to ditch your existing modem, you'll likely need to do a lot of research. https://pon.wiki/guides/masquerade-as-the-att-inc-bgw320-500-505-with-the-was-110/

[ornate jungle]

Also, if you have physical home phone through AT&T using this same modem, you may have to keep their hardware for phone to keep functioning.

[slim girder]

Oh I don't use landlije

[twin pier]

Its a rabbit hole. You need a special device to pretend to be to be the bgw320 because of the authentication system

[stuck grove]

use some cable ties or something, jesus christ

[vagrant hare]

lol

[pastel monolith]

Using one here basically in the existing router config can go to firewall->ip passthrough and select a new router that is hooked up wired and passthrough the connection (allocation mode: passthrough, passthrough-mode: dhcps-fixed, then choose mac addresses of the router as device to passthrough to)

Been this way for months and no issues really still get 950Mbps or so on 1 Gbps fiber and on and off game or stream stuff from various media services and buddies, using a couple of mesh routers here behind the at&t one... Oh I guess one other thing worth noting I'm using different DHCP range for the mesh router setup too from what the at&t one has just didn't want things conflicting, am still able to get to the at&t admin page too somewhat surprisingly (guess the mesh routers are able to route to it still but just feels a little surprising that still works)

[twin pier]

I also have been using bgw320 with passthrough mode for about a year, no issues

[sweet sierra]

Okay, appriciate everybody's responses that helped, thank you

[molten cairn]

hey guys, im trying to create my first real portfolio project, and came up with idea of creating an internet activity logger in C using eBPF
But when ive started looking for some guides about how to use bpf in my projects a didnt got a single thing about it, so im here to ask u guys for some good and easy books/repos/projects/whatever to start understanding bpf
As i know for now ebpf "is a technology that can run programs in a privileged context such as the operating system kernel"
Thats all I know honestly...
So ye, 1 more time
Any advices, books, courses, yt videos, repos and other stuff is welcome

Also if uve got better ideas for a technology to be used in my projects, pls tell me all u know

(And ye technically its connected to networking so pls no offtop warnings to me)

[clear igloo]

Have you looked here?
https://ebpf.io/get-started/#docs

[molten cairn]

Yep
But as i see its more about introducing into eBPF
Ive tried to check out documentation part

but its pretty hard to understand where is what

[ocean tulip]

are linksys nodes good for wifi boosting and there all hardwired to the main router

[molten cairn]

and also my English is not good enough to read documentation in original
And I know that if i translate it I can miss some important info

[clear igloo]

Ah, yah that's going to make this much more complex and challenging

[kind pivot]

How can I force a cli tool (natpmpc) to use a specific network interface ?

Like curl --interface

[ocean tulip]

it dosnt directly support an --interface

[kind pivot]

That's what I saw

[ocean tulip]

however you can force it to use a specific network interface by specifing the gateway ip on the interface manually

[kind pivot]

Yeah I do that but I think my routes aren't enough for that

Though when using curl --interface it works fine

I get ```readnatpmpresponseorretry returned -100 (TRY AGAIN)

With ``natpmpc -g specific-gateway``

When I don't use a separate routing table for this interface it works fine

[ocean tulip]

the problem is your using a separate routing table for the interface

it might correctly send out packets but the reply dosnt make it back because the os dosnt know how to reach the ip

as a source

[kind pivot]

I see, indeed that's not great

[ocean tulip]

you could adda policy based rule that matches the source ip

[kind pivot]

ip rule add from sourceip lookup 40

Like that ?

[ocean tulip]

echo "40 eth1rt" | sudo tee -a /etc/iproute2/rt_tables

sudo ip route add default via 192.168.2.1 dev eth1 table eth1rt

sudo ip rule add from 192.168.2.100 lookup eth1rt

that

[kind pivot]

won't this route everything through the interface ?

I want a wireguard interface that is only used by two applications, so in the wireguard.conf I set up "table = 40" that added :
default dev wg-proton scope link for the table 40

The first one I can select in it the interface so it's fine I guess (qbitorrent)
The second one, I can only specify the gateway (natpmpc)

[ocean tulip]

sudo ip rule add from 10.7.0.2 lookup 40

[kind pivot]

Thanks

It wasn't exactly this but it was close enough to help

[ocean tulip]

yw

[silent flax]

10gbase T why ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1_k96tnOs

[clear hamlet]

Rate my internet speed

[opal pagoda]

yea its quite dumb

[silent flax]

i mean i get it, but usually the issue is the pricing of 10gbase T switch hardware, not routers/PCs/miniPCs

[opal pagoda]

issue is that people are hardwired to multi port routers and firewalls
a router with single sfp+ in a router on a stick config is so nice

[kind pivot]

Here in France we have isp router with 10GbaseT

And for example my house is wired in the walls in ethernet, so I'd need to convert to ethernet anyway

[opal pagoda]

having connections directly to this router is not most performant way.
this is because traffic from one interface to another will have to pass through the cpu.
more optimal way is to have a switch for lan since then packet switching is done on ASIC instead

[kind pivot]

Thanks for the explanation

[pseudo blade]

It's not optimal but it has enough brawn to just do it

Besides between the two 10 gig ports which you'd want to route between if available for full duplex anyways... 2.5 gig ports? On an 8-core x86 processor?

It may as well be a switch for the bridging performance in a SOHO environment

I'd personally want to stick a switch on it (and those are cheaper in SFP+) and in mikrotik land I tend to go for l3 offloads where available myself... but I don't think it matters here

Grab this, some nice APs, Mikrotik's new 4-port 10gigE switch and a set of 10 gig nics and you've got a hell of a home network

[haughty spruce]

Planning my home network... Shouldn't I get some large rack switch at this moment? 😄 I wanted to avoid it because of the cost and noise (as it will be in office room), but stacking these small switches starts to seem as bad decision...
Issue is that I need at least 2.5G link between internet, office plugs, NAS and APs (Which on top of that need PoE :D)

[amber urchin]

if you only have two poe devices, why not use injectors?

[opal pagoda]

you definitely need some slightly larger switches, here you will have just one port spare and any expansion will require purchase of additional switches

[haughty spruce]

Because they cost the same as just paying little more for Flex PoE + buying some generic 54V 100ishW adapter

[amber urchin]

and what about buying both the switches poe and non vs the injectors and a single larger switch?

[haughty spruce]

I added one more Flex (non PoE) and I will connect them by passive DAC SPF cable. I think this is much better and still like half of the price compared to buying Pro Max 24 (because Pro Max 16 have just 4x2.5G) + Injectors...

[haughty spruce]

^^ Like this?

Was just writing the message when you sent yours

[amber urchin]

no, I meant like a single non poe switch and two injectors

[haughty spruce]

Yeah but in that case I need at least Pro Max 24 (https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/category/switching-professional-max-xg/products/usw-pro-max-24) to get 8x2.5G ports (as 4 is not enough for me), which is around 502eur with VAT + injectors each for like 30-40eur... Compared to two Flexes for around 400... Not counting that the large switch will make a hell lot of noise and more heat (probably?)

So more money, more noisy, higher power consumption, less 2.5G ports (-8) and each new PoE device will require another injector

[haughty spruce]

I think that with this I should have enough spare and future proofed if I ever get more devices that can take advantage of 2.5G. Only downside is that I will have just 2.5G uplink with router :/

And I guess 2 additional hops between the second switch and internet but that should not be issue in my case 😄

[amber urchin]

huh didn't realize that. Guess another reason to add to the list of why I don't like Ubiquiti. Personally, I see 5g and 2.5g nics and think 'wow that's an expensive 1g port'. To me there is only 1g and 10g so I can use cheap switches.

[opal pagoda]

have you looked at non ubiquiti options?
recently i have been looking at cisco WS-C3850-12X48U-L and it seems perfect 48 ports, 12 of them are mgig (1g, 2.5g, 5g, 10g) with expansion slot for additional module
all ports are poe

price wise they are 110$+ shipping in US, ~200 euros in europe

[haughty spruce]

Yeah but I need to put it into office room so I have to buy fanless or very quitet one. This is probably loud as f**k

[haughty spruce]

I kinda have use for the 2,5 gig and 10gig is still extremely out of my budget atm.

[opal pagoda]

i use c9200 on regular basis and they arent that loud but yea audible

[haughty spruce]

Also I kinda like the Ubiquiti ecosystem and I will 100% be buying the U7 APs so why not to go with switch and router too tbh...

I actually tried Microtik, TP-Link and Zyxel "UFO" styled APs and they all sucked both performance-wise and feature-wise compared to the new U7 lineup

I would go with the Pro Max 24 and two injectors if I got info from someone about the loudness 😄 I dont mind paying like 100 eur more to get 24 usable ports and use injectors when I need them (as they cost like 20 euro for the multigig ones as I just noticed, which is not bad)

[tame estuary]

Hey all, I have a TrueNAS CE server that I installed the open speed test app on. I went on to my local PC and attempted to run a speed test and I only got ~2500Mbps up and down. Both the server and the local machine are uplinked at 25GbE and I am not quite sure why I am not getting the performance I expect. the CPU only goes up to about 9% utilization as well.

[opal pagoda]

Is there an alternative path?
Aka server and pc are directly connected with 25g and connected to a 2.5g switch for rest of lan

[tame estuary]

both the TrueNAS server and the PC are connected at 25GbE to a unifi aggregation pro and are showing connected at 25GbE

there are no other connections on either other than the 25GbE links (other than the 1GbE IPMI on the server side)

[amber urchin]

I wonder if you're limited by disk speed. I added the docker container to one of my VMs that runs docker for lancache and I'm getting 15.4/11 over my 25gbe point to point link.

[tame estuary]

I dont think so that shouldnt affect a speed test

not to mention I was able to have 25GbE no problem on unraid. Just the switch to TrueNAS seems to have caused an issue

I just dont know what

[amber urchin]

Not sure what to say. I get much better results from iperf so something is bottlenecking this speed test.

Is your truenas bare metal or under proxmox?

[tame estuary]

nothing on either side is getting pegged to even more than 20% usage. I just dont know what is causing it to run slower than even 10GbE

bare metal

[amber urchin]

same for the other machine you're testing from? bare metal

[tame estuary]

the other machine is a bare metal windows install

[amber urchin]

I ask because I made the mistake of somehow setting up a vm with an intel instead of virtio network adapter and it was limited to around 2.5. although it did peg out the cpu

[tame estuary]

server is bare metal TrueNAS CE on an R730 with a mellanox CX4-LX card at 25GbE. PC is a 7950X3D with the same card at 25GbE. Both uplinked to a Unifi Agg pro switch at 25GbE

[amber urchin]

Same cards I run.

[tame estuary]

like I said I had no issues on unraid. Just TrueNAS. It has to be some configuration somewhere but I have no idea because it feels artificially limited

[amber urchin]

Have you tried iperf?

[tame estuary]

iperf keeps giving me an error on the client side

server says its listening but the client says this

[amber urchin]

yeah with iperf3 I get roughly 20-22Gbits vs the 15/11

[amber urchin]

oh you're in powershell you either need to ./iperf3 or just run it in cmd

so ./iperf3 -c n.n.n.n

[tame estuary]

in CMD

[amber urchin]

And you are in the folder it was in? For example %userprofile%\Downloads\iperf-3.19-win64

[tame estuary]

no I didnt know I needed to download it on windows

[amber urchin]

oh, yeah. lol

Was it built in on truenas? didn't remember that. I've run truenas scale bare metal and virtualized under proxmox with the HBA passed thru and both times it's worked just fine with the 25gbe network adapter - although I cannot get full speed due to my drives not being fast enough. Originally it was four 4tb hdds and now it's 16 of 'em. Still not fast enough so I grabbed ten 240gb ssds to make into a 10 wide stripe for the read cache. Figure 128GB RAM, 2TB read cache ought to be enough for 30 ish TB of space that I'm currently only using around a quarter of.

[tame estuary]

it is pre installed on TrueNAS

[amber urchin]

Even over my gigabit connection, this openspeedtest is hitting around 12% of the 8 cores I gave this VM. I think this test is probably CPU bottlenecked, likely single core. It's hangin out around 15% on the down and 46% on the up.

[tame estuary]

so what is the legit place to get iperf3 for windows?

[opal pagoda]

Github

[amber urchin]

I think I grabbed mine from techspot but wikipedia lists esnet as the official. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iperf

apparently there are no official windows builds

[opal pagoda]

But please run -P atleast 10

[opal pagoda]

You didnt include parameter -P 10

[tame estuary]

iperf3: error - unable to connect to server - server may have stopped running or use a different port, firewall issue, etc.: Connection refused

[opal pagoda]

Uppercase P and not lower case

Lower case one defines the port, uppercase defines number of parallel streams

[amber urchin]

You should definitely be getting better results than that. I doubt it has anything to do with TrueNAS though. Did something else change when you went from unraid to truenas?
[SUM] 0.00-10.01 sec 24.9 GBytes 21.3 Gbits/sec sender
[SUM] 0.00-10.02 sec 24.8 GBytes 21.3 Gbits/sec receiver

[tame estuary]

nothing changed other than operating system

[silent flax]

what does ethtool say about the network card and negotiated speeds ?

like my ConnectX-3 says this when running ethtool enp9s0

[fervent brook]

Is 300 USD an ok price for a 4 "bay" m.2 nvme enclosure?

[silent flax]

that depends on your needs and lane distribution

[silent flax]

what i mean by that is:

1. what is the connectivity of said enclosure ? 1 gigabit can be easily fully saturated by a single mechanical hard drive, even SATA SSDs will be more than enough for 2.5 gigabit, single NVMe drive will be more than enough for 5 and 10 gigabit ethernet.
2. what performance it provides? Most likely up to a N100/N150 system judging by the price, which is fine for most tasks, just don't plan to run way too much on it due limited memory capacity (16GB) and single channel memory

having said that, different designs can be found around 170 euros or so

[fervent brook]

5Gb Ethernet

[silent flax]

there is also https://www.bee-link.com/products/beelink-me-mini-n150 which is a 6 drive nas and $200 or so

[fervent brook]

So N95 with 8GB of RAM would be bad?

[silent flax]

N95 is afaik just a bit worse than N100, but for NAS duties, it doesn't matter. 8GB RAM is up to what you want from it

what i mean is for generic NAS duties, anything can do that

[fervent brook]

The fact that it says the 5Gb speed in 500% faster than 1Gb makes me want to stab somebody...

[silent flax]

but if you start running various docker images on it, RAM and CPU can become a bottleneck depending on the application

[fervent brook]

And I don't even know what "execution units" are...at this point I think they might just be making things up...

[silent flax]

EU = GPU

you don't really use the GPU for anything other than possibly transcoding (where you use only the encoder/decoder of it) in a NAS system

N95 is 15W, N100 is 6W, N100 is like 2/3 of N95 performance at those power numbers

[fervent brook]

I just checked and my 4 bay SATA NAS cost me 390 before tax with hard drives

[silent flax]

just saying that beelink might be a good option for NVMe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWdFk_rhIyA

[fervent brook]

My only real regret is it's ARM...and after I bought it i found out a bunch of programs don't have ARM versions...

[silent flax]

you don't have to run stuff on the NAS. Grab a cheap N100 mini PC next to your NAS, and let it do the server duties

[fervent brook]

I don't have to have a NAS

It's not like I dont use it. It has been usefull. I just still miss all those files I lost on my 6TB drive

200 for the BEMEMINI seems tempting though. But I know I don't need nvme

[silent flax]

well that was your initial question. "Is 300 USD an ok price for a 4 "bay" m.2 nvme enclosure?"

if you don't need NVMe, i would probably build my own, more so if you can find a cheap Fractal Define case nearby

then you can use nearly anything - a 6th or 7th gen Intel i3/i5 is cheap, low power. Add the motherboard, some RAM, a cheap Thermalright cooler, a cheap 250GB SSD for booting, PSU and you are all set.

[fervent brook]

Maybe I can just convert my old AM4 system

[silent flax]

that is an option too. It might consume more power, but if you will use the power of the CPU, it might be a good option. I personally use a Threadripper 2950x as my server

[fervent brook]

I'm poor...so my AM4 system is a 2600

but yeah, power is a problem

If i get a dedicated thing, it might be like 30-150 watts. but powering an old tower would probably be 200-400 watts

[silent flax]

not really

you can boot without a GPU on most boards, so you will talk about 50-60W idle power without the hard drives tops

[fervent brook]

Do they make special GPUs for this kind of thing?

oh...

[silent flax]

yes, full load will be 200W, but that is another story

[fervent brook]

so, i load the OS and boot it and just hope it's booting?

[silent flax]

you can have a GPU in it while you set up your NAS OS, then disable BIOS warning/stop features and boot just without a GPU later

alternatively you can grab a cheap, older lowend GPU for it

like R5 240 or something

[fervent brook]

i dont think cheap GPUs even exist anymore

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Radeon-D-Port-Video-0F9P1R/dp/B07QX8GLDV

[silent flax]

$20 is not cheap ?

[fervent brook]

i didnt expect that to be there

https://www.amazon.com/Firemv-Graphics-256MB-Express-Compliance/dp/B0058F9U5S

12 dollars

[silent flax]

unsure which GPUs are compatible tho

[silent flax]

ok, so link speed is correct at least on one side. Only other thing i can think off is that while your link speed is 25Gbps, due a damaged cable you are getting ton of errors, which cause your speeds to be horrible. I had a similar issue where a 10 gigabit RJ45 card connected to a 10 gigabit RJ45 switch port was doing only 200mbps or so, and swapping the cable instantly fixed it, as there were no constant retries on networking layer

[tame estuary]

nothing has changed other than going from unraid to TrueNAS

and I was getting 25 gigabit on unraid

its also a DAC cable

[silent flax]

you could still check if you aren't getting RX/TX errors in ifconfig

[amber urchin]

is it possible that the connection is being routed thru the gateway for some reason that is not 25gbe and thus that link is limiting? Perhaps a traceroute from the client side to the server?

[tame estuary]

maybe but the switch is LAGG uplinked to the switch at 20Gig

actually its not its only linked to the stack at 10 gig

[amber urchin]

if the gateway device is on a 2.5gig port, you'd be limited to that speed if there is a reason for the two devices to route thru it. The tracert should show a single hop directly to the truenas ip.

[tame estuary]

but its still well below 10 gig speed

the gateway is a UDM Pro linked to the network stack at 10GbE

and I am still seeing less than 10 gig

UDM Pro > 10GbE > AGG Pro >25GbE >Truenas server
>25GbE> Local PC

[pseudo blade]

Most resellers near me sell new old stock GT710's for peanuts for those seeking a monitor card. They even have 2GB of VRAM, as to not be utterly useless.

I don't recommend an ancient AMD card with 256MB of VRAM on a system you'd happen to want a graphical desktop on, even if you did save $8 over buying one with at least 1GB

[fervent brook]

would a 580 be enough?

[opal pagoda]

is NAS and PC on the same vlan?

[honest plover]

Is the TP Link Deco x10 3 pack for £135 fine, or are there better spec ones for same price / cheaper

[silent flax]

literally any GPU will do, but ideally you either remove it after install, or get one which idles at low watts

[tame estuary]

interesting

[opal pagoda]

So it wasn't on same vlan?

[tame estuary]

it was not

[amber urchin]

I thought about specifying vlans, but I figured he'd run a tracert and find out that it was routing thru the gateway then take it to the next step.

[tame estuary]

I wonder if I turn off IPS/IDS and have them on the regular vlans if it will route at 25gbps

didnt even think that would be the problem

[opal pagoda]

no, as it is connected via single or dual 10g

[tame estuary]

I can move the WAN to a rj45 port and DAC LAGG the second port on the UDM to the Agg switch. I do have a dac cable sitting around

[opal pagoda]

shitty that agg pro doesent do ACL

[tame estuary]

the agg pro does support ACL according to google

[opal pagoda]

this could be outdated IG

[tame estuary]

yeah looks like it only does network isolation ACLs

I guess I should have bought that dell switch instead of the agg pro lol

[opal pagoda]

or a nexus

[tame estuary]

yeah I would rather have one of dells opensource switches than a propriatary cisco

[opal pagoda]

dell switches are just broadcom whitelabel

[tame estuary]

well I guess I can always upgrade to 100 gig lmao

[white prairie]

alr so i have a main router for my house but Im moving my pc into a different room and I cant move the router

there IS a coax hookup in the room tho, so i can get a new router

how should i go about this and will it negatively affect the main router?

[tame estuary]

media converter

coax to ethernet

[opal pagoda]

Thats called MoCa

[tame estuary]

yeah I know. @white prairie I am assuming you only have a gigabit connection?

[white prairie]

about yea

[tame estuary]

also are you talking about getting a new router or new modem?

[white prairie]

like is that what i should do?

i just know my pc doesnt have a wifi chip, nor is the wifi strength from that room good enough

[opal pagoda]

or you can run ethernet cable to that 2nd room

[white prairie]

nah too far

[tame estuary]

so you want to add a second router? or move the router? because adding a second router will just double NAT

[white prairie]

what does double nat mean

[tame estuary]

something you want to avoid dealing with if you can

[opal pagoda]

when you have 2 routers doing nating inline

[white prairie]

i thought a lot of people have 2 routers

[tame estuary]

Network Address Translation

[opal pagoda]

one is tipically put into a bridge mode

[tame estuary]

but what are you trying to do specifically? just get a wired connection to the PC?

[white prairie]

yea

[tame estuary]

dont add a second router then

[white prairie]

a strong connection

okay then what is my best bet

[tame estuary]

just get a MoCA adapter for both ends of the coax. plug ethernet into the router then ethernet from the other end of the coax into the pc

[opal pagoda]

solutions from best to worst
run ethernet cable
MoCa
Powerline
wifi

[tame estuary]

if you really want you can add a switch at the PC side to have additional ports for more connections

^

[white prairie]

is it me or is this confusing

[tame estuary]

ethernet direct is definitely the best way to go

[white prairie]

whats this mean

[opal pagoda]

networking does have quite a bit of learning curve

[tame estuary]

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=221TKOC1C4VUE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dybWjHt9YIhhDaBASCWWazFUdO0QMkSGGoYQg3NE_P0dFf6Cmbepn0Bf7nmzUifsHLWL8lkgwrhSY5HFrW14Y5_LhQ4c7oe7JmQ3o43ilTcRhv-sfpmTBtjj5_qJtHV55ec8Kgh5Q21k2izwrtIXyrfjudGD9XuEY5sp78TIGlP9LP75Sre6jROg9sNl-lufzCr97pd6owsrXalPt797xVJ-4dYqUJPtp1sJIX9b8ek.yKeqfPlnkiRpjVKiVpVTgfCiD0BZx6kgA_AA-_vuEaE&dib_tag=se&keywords=moca%2Badapter&qid=1750791848&sprefix=moca%2Bad%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.9fe8cbfa-bf43-43d1-a707-3f4e65a4b666&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

you dont need 2.5 gig ones but these esentially

[ocean tulip]

i recomend a long eathernet and put it along the top of your wall to the router

[tame estuary]

also for what you're doing you should never need a second router. you would just want a network switch

[opal pagoda]

bridge mode essentially turns router into a modem

[tame estuary]

you dont need to deal with that though

[opal pagoda]

Maybe a AP tho

[tame estuary]

just do a MoCA adapter, switch on the other side, and add an AP along with the ethernet to the pc

[ocean tulip]

my house is full with cat 6 to a patch pannel to a switch to the router to another switch to power the wifi

its confusing

[white prairie]

i dont get how these work lol

[tame estuary]

connect ethernet and connect coax

[opal pagoda]

lucky fella

[ocean tulip]

we re did the house

so there is eathernet in the walls

[tame estuary]

when I redo my house I am just going to run fiber everywhere

multi use

[ocean tulip]

run 2 to each place

[tame estuary]

Ill probably smurf tube everything

[ocean tulip]

be like linus pc in server room monitor and other stuff in another room

[white prairie]

and i need 2 for this?

[opal pagoda]

el spaget

[tame estuary]

looks better than my rack lol

[white prairie]

wait I THINK I GET IT

[ocean tulip]

my settup

it changed a bit

[white prairie]

put one adapter between the wall and my router,

and the other one in the room where im putting my pc?

[tame estuary]

yep

[opal pagoda]

gotta censor smtg

[tame estuary]

and you might want to add a 4 port switch for extra connectivity on the PC side

[white prairie]

how does that even work

[white prairie]

would be smart bc my xbox is in there too

[tame estuary]

magic

[white prairie]

is it okay if i have a bullshit "gateway" and not an actual modem/router

[tame estuary]

in actuality it just converts the signal from ethernet to coax

and back

[opal pagoda]

gatweway is router

[white prairie]

isnt it like both

[tame estuary]

no

[white prairie]

oh

so i just dont have a modem

[opal pagoda]

gatweway in smb/soho networks is just local IP of the router

[tame estuary]

modem is the connection to the outside world (Wide Area Network aka WAN) and your router takes your WAN and converts it to the Local Area Network (LAN). the router ROUTES traffic from different devices through the WAN to the interenet

[opal pagoda]

btw you can connect straight to the modem and raw dog the net

[tame estuary]

Highly dont reccomend that

but yeah you can lol

[ocean tulip]

ye i wouldnt do that

[opal pagoda]

yea, i only did it twice when ISP was bullshitting me to prove i am right

[tame estuary]

If the networking people from my ISP came to my house they would have no idea what they are even looking at lmao

[ocean tulip]

i use lynksys router

no bullshit router

[white prairie]

so wheres my modem lol

[tame estuary]

I started on a linksys. Then I moved to unifi

[ocean tulip]

provided by my internet provider

[white prairie]

really

[ocean tulip]

ye i might move to unifi

[tame estuary]

where the internet comes in from the outside of the house

[white prairie]

so why do some people need modems

[opal pagoda]

not like they give 2 shits about what user connects to their cpe

[tame estuary]

because its how the ISP gives you a WAN IP

[white prairie]

whats a wan ip

what do they like track me

[tame estuary]

.

I mean everyone tracks everyone. welcome to the internet

[white prairie]

so is the isp giving me a wan ip bad

[opal pagoda]

no

[tame estuary]

you need the WAN IP otherwise you have no internet

[white prairie]

so some ISPs give it some ISPs dont and require users to have a modem

[tame estuary]

its like your house number. then the router gives room numbers to your devices

[opal pagoda]

all ISP require a modem

just it can be in diffrent forms

[tame estuary]

all internet connections have a WAN

[white prairie]

so for me they just have it on their end

[tame estuary]

no you have a WAN

otherwise you wouldnt be talking to us

[amber urchin]

Or you could get the gateway to a 25gig device?

[tame estuary]

I suggest going and doing a little youtubing on how the internet works

I mean you could get a CoLo to a DC but thats big money

[amber urchin]

Or faster if you can manage it

[white prairie]

so for me all i need is a moca

[tame estuary]

id run ethernet if you could first

but yes technically

[white prairie]

okay

will it impact my speed bad

[opal pagoda]

depends on which moca adapter you get

[tame estuary]

in theory it shouldnt effect it that much

[white prairie]

which do i get

[tame estuary]

as long as you get a gigabit one or faster

[white prairie]

also is it bad that the coax in the room im moving my PC to isnt a outlet its just a wire coming through the wall

[tame estuary]

if you dont want to think about it then get the one I linked

[white prairie]

dopesnt matter right

[tame estuary]

no

[white prairie]

does brand matter

[tame estuary]

speed does

I also wouldnt mix brands

[white prairie]

makes sense but wouldnt some brands be more reliable

and also so instead of having the coax go into my gateway i have the ethernet?

i think it only has a coax input

ethernet are all out

[opal pagoda]

get a switch then

[white prairie]

whats that do

[opal pagoda]

turns 1 port into 5,8,12,24...

[white prairie]

how does that fix my issue with my router only taking coax in

[tame estuary]

it really sounds like you dont know the difference between a modem and a router

the coax goes to the modem. from the modem it comes out to the router over ethernet

[white prairie]

for my gateway thing i just plug the coax into it

[opal pagoda]

that is modem

[white prairie]

xfinity

i only have 1

[tame estuary]

again thats the modem

coax from the outside world goes into the modem. from the modem it will come out over ethernet to the router

[opal pagoda]

if you have only one device then it has everything inside (modem, router, access point, switch)

[white prairie]

tes

yes thats what i have

[tame estuary]

then you should have either 2 or 4 rj45 ethernet ports

[opal pagoda]

do you have any free ethernet ports on it?

[white prairie]

yea but i thoguht they were only output

[opal pagoda]

it is where you will plug one of the moca adapter

it can be same port where your PC is connected to

[white prairie]

oh

[opal pagoda]

here i modified a diagram that i found. circled in red is your xfinity box, it takes in coax and has network ports
you will need 2 moca adapters and a coax splitter

[white prairie]

i didnt know it was capable of that i thought it needed to be coax

so i wont have any coax input to my router?

[opal pagoda]

if you take a photo of it we can see what is going on exactly

[white prairie]

xfinity XB8-T

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/broadband-gateways-userguides#:~:text=Ready WiFi%3A No-,XFINITY ADVANCED GATEWAY (XB8),-The Xfinity Advanced

@tame estuary @opal pagoda lmk what im working with, sorry im so dumb lol

thanks for the help

there is a MoCA enable/disable switch in the admin panel tool

[opal pagoda]

could you take a screenshot of that

[nova glacier]

@white prairie the xb8-t does have built-in moca, so no adapter on its end is needed. If you had comcast install the xb8, they should've placed a filter somewhere on your coaxial cabling. The filter is the inline device with the red ring in this picture (though this is just one example, it doesn't need to be a red ring or have a ring at all). Ideally it was already placed at the coax point of entry into your home and not as shown in this picture. If yours was placed as shown, it will need to be moved

[pseudo blade]

How nice of whoever installed it to put it in the "don't work" position

I guess it's safer than allowing MoCA to work when it's not explicitly desired or correctly filtered at the entry to the premises

[nova glacier]

I'm guessing the incoming line was out of reach and they were too lazy to get a step stool or something lol. If not that's some seriously lazy cable tech

[silent flax]

hm not bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YJ0s_LxXgU

[austere bison]

Do I plug this into the jusb1 on the motherboard ?

[pseudo blade]

Yeah it's likely for Bluetooth support

They often run that separately over USB for what I can only presume is cost reasons

[austere bison]

Way better with the WiFi card

Thanks bro

[white prairie]

This isn’t the case I put mine in… so what do I do

Apologies for the late response lol

@nova glacier from what I understand, basically as long as I enable moca on the admin page, I just need 1 adapter?

[pseudo blade]

Yes, for the "remote" side

[white prairie]

So what’s the filter for

[pseudo blade]

Blocking traffic from MoCA from passing it. To put on the line into the property so you're not blasting local traffic down the street.

[white prairie]

I don’t have it, is that bad?

Wdym blasting local traffic down the street

[peak cloak]

Coax is like a radio, multiple things run on one wire. The coax in your home is connected to the street that goes out to all the homes. You don't want your moca going out to the street so you filter certain frequencies to block it

[white prairie]

So do I need a filter and a moca?

1 or 2 filters

Nvm I found it

https://a.co/d/0rT7MzG

is this good?

[white prairie]

Does it just go on the coax in to my house before the main splitter ?

[opal pagoda]

yes

it goes right there

[white prairie]

Perfect will this do the job ?

https://a.co/d/bnQhWgv

https://a.co/d/7NYS55M

[nova glacier]

@white prairie There's one more caveat for moca to work. All splitters between the two coax outlets need to be moca compatible. Splitters will usually have frequency range on the label and moca needs up to 1675MHz. Old splitters usually only go up to 1000MHz

[white prairie]

Shit alr, this goes for the main splitter where the isp coax comes into my house?

[nova glacier]

If that's one of the splitters between the two coax outlets, yes

[white prairie]

Alr

I’ll have to go in the attic to check

[white prairie]

Was the equipment I found on Amazon good?

[nova glacier]

xb8-t's built-in adapter is only moca 2.0 (1Gbe), so you don't need a moca 2.5 adapter. If 2.5Gbe is something you want, you'll need to get a second adapter to plug into a xb8-t lan port.

[nova glacier]

while you're there, check if there's already a filter behind that splitter. comcast has been using moca for their DVRs for a while so you might actually have one already

[crystal viper]

@nova glacier I have a question how do these work https://www.amazon.com/WiFi-6-Mesh-System-AX3000/dp/B09PRB1MZM/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ngn9miqpOBE8KXpE6rzSZCpscZrq3ptmetbVxpTCgT1YvcrL73Nc4GFIAAqsLd3rDP5gyPS0VQMvBdZTo3Ige5YAM0S39OlG2dfx9JInrzrrqfCfp3F64OLOAkiORFGC9xnzoTWij9kNIk3KNe08dZXOTyvCwqMmuZVV1SbxjNtQeVpsHqcuFiQzPDguzIW0ZVavoJi379zivDpyn_mLAQ.Fg-2gCYolisK6VtxyBr5nfsqI-OnRyT2D3i0CpCC5Gg&dib_tag=se&keywords=Tp+link+deco&qid=1750907242&sr=8-3

Someone reccomended them to me and I was a bit confused

1. Do they support devices that need 2.4 GHz because with my current T-Mobile 5G set at default I can’t seem to connect more devices
2. How does it actually work does it split the speed for example 500mbps between the three ap? Or is the speed still 500 mbps overall across all aps

[nova glacier]

all wifi routers today support 2.4GHz. There are cases where IoT hardware fails to connect to a network with a unified SSID for 2.4GHz/5GHz(/6GHz). Many routers support the creation of a dedicated 2.4GHz only SSID that you can connect IoT hardware to while keeping a unified SSID for the rest of your devices

[pastel monolith]

1. yes anything with these protocols is supported on it: 802 11 AX, 802 11 AC, 802 11 N, 802 11 G, 802 11 B
2. your speed to the internet is a total for all devices using that pipe at the same time, the LAN connections can/typically are faster than the connection the ISP provides but are ultimately limited by the combination

the bandwidth isn't explicitly "split" here but is always divided amongst all the devices on the network

a given wireless device to a given access point is going to have a given max bandwidth based on distance/interference etc. but so long as that bandwidth is well above whatever the ISP provides you're then just limited based on what other devices are pulling data through the same "pipe"

[nova glacier]

it appears that the TP-Link Deco X55 doesn't support doing this, so if this is something you need for a device you'll have to use something else.

[topaz patrol]

However, TP-Link has an option to make an IoT network

[nova glacier]

does it? I couldn't find a manual for the deco x55 so I had to guess from random pictures people have taken of the app

[topaz patrol]

https://community.tp-link.com/en/home/stories/detail/501928

Deco X50/Deco X55_V1/V1.2 is supported

[nova glacier]

oh neat. I hate products that don't put manuals online and instead have info littered across forum posts

[topaz patrol]

I'm guessing that was added after the fact anyway, judging by the blog post

I also hate how the consumer Decos have no (real) web interface, but it works for lots of people

[pastel monolith]

yeah is my only gripe honestly otherwise pretty happy with em overall

[white prairie]

Ive never had comcast cable

Also what cat Ethernet should I get

6 or 6a

[mystic latch]

If it's just for 1gig connection, then whichever is cheaper

[white prairie]

My plan might be 1200mbps

[mystic latch]

Both are still fine

[nova glacier]

5e is fine for 2.5Gbe patch cables

But as I mentioned earlier, if you do choose to use the XB8-T's built-in MOCA that's only MOCA 2.0 which is 1Gb max

[white prairie]

Okay 1gb is fine anyways

So I need to make sure that my splitter is 1675mhz

https://a.co/d/2SlWdQg

[nova glacier]

yes, every splitter between the two points your connecting if there's multiple

[white prairie]

This one good?

[white prairie]

Got it, and the filter I found should work correct

So I need a new splitter, does the dB out matter?

[nova glacier]

yes. While you're ordering things you can also get 75 Ohm termination caps to put on unused ports in the house. It helps increase signal integrity and will make your internet a bit more reliable

[nova glacier]

Yep. Less dB drop is better, which tbc I mean -3dB is better than -3.5dB

[white prairie]

Okay, whys it even an option why aren’t they all low lol

Also should I get a 1675 mhz one or more

[topaz patrol]

Sometimes you want more loss 🙂

[white prairie]

Interesting

[nova glacier]

just a matter of design. It's desirable to have a less lossy port that you'd use for the connection to another splitter

[nova glacier]

moca is 1125-1675MHz, so more doesn't help

[white prairie]

Alr I got 10 min for 2 day shipping

Lemme find one rq

They’re all -7db @nova glacier

Like this https://a.co/d/c8aZNKZ

[nova glacier]

don't get more ports than you need to split

[white prairie]

Okay, I mean I have 4 ports in my house but only 3 outs on the splitter

Don’t ask I basically made one additional

But I don’t NEED four

This https://a.co/d/2fN82lC

Good? I have 4 min lol

[nova glacier]

If you want to get really ideal use a 2-way splitter and a 3-way. Your modem will get a slightly better connection to comcast

[white prairie]

I got the three way, should I cancel and get the 2

I can use the 3.7db one to my modem anyways for the three so does it make a difference

[crystal viper]

Issue is that I’m not getting connection to garage opener and door camera, hence why I’m switching to tp-link

[crystal viper]

Wouldn’t switching to 2.4 only affect the other devices connecting to 6E for example

[topaz patrol]

What?

[nova glacier]

It wouldn't. Having both a 2-way and 3-way would just let you use that extra port you mentioned. You wouldn't have to cancel the existing order either

[topaz patrol]

You are creating a seperate 2.4Ghz only network for IoT devices

[white prairie]

Alr alr im good should get all the stuff in 2 days

Also for the record there was no moca filter on the splitter lol

Thanks for the help

[topaz patrol]

That does not (for your purposes) affect any other networks for devices

[crystal viper]

Oh makes sense you can’t do that with t-mobile which sucks

[white prairie]

@nova glacier should I use the -3.7db port on the splitter for my gateway or for the room where I’m putting the moca adapter

[nova glacier]

always give the modem the best connection. It has to communicate with a device much farther away

[pastel monolith]

yeah the mesh access points basically communicate with each other and the "main" access point that is hooked up to the incoming connection from the internet, but if you configure something it propagates/copies that configuration out to the "satellites" (other access points)

ideally you want each of the satellites to be roughly mid way between the main mesh router and whatever the "end devices" are but just takes some testing since very RF environment varies some

[white prairie]

Got it thanks

[full storm]

this might be a stupid idea but if i have 2 ethernet cables plugged into my router and into a switch and then i connect my PC up to the switch aswell, what would happen

like, would it be some what redundant if one of the main cables breaks because im running 25 meter ethernet cables now and im planning on running 2 just in case and i dont particularly want any downtime if it does break, obviously i don't anticipate one breaking but just in case

[nova glacier]

Setting up link aggregation would be necessary to make it seamlessly fault tolerant. That said though, two cables running the same path wouldn't really be considered a good form of fault tolerance.

[ornate jungle]

If the switch has some kind of loop protection built-in, like Spanning Tree Protocol, then it'll likely shut off both ports when it detects a loop, or just one of the duplicate connections won't work. The switch itself would need to support port aggregation or failover / redundancy for this setup to "work" how you expect.

[full storm]

alr i'll just switch them manually, if it breaks thank you

[ornate jungle]

If it doesn't support Spanning Tree or loop detection, welp, enjoy your self inflicted packet storm! 🤣

[full storm]

only doing this because some how a mf rat got into my wall and chewed through my cable

[nova glacier]

damn

[full storm]

i was just trying to think ahead, there are no more rats anymore but idefk how it got in to begin with so i was just tryna think of ways to avoid it, i have some mega thick cables this time around

[nova glacier]

Just check if you've got link aggregation, it's not too uncommon but I know so many consumer routers are getting dumbed down to fuck with "apps" only

[full storm]

well im going to buy a switch cause i don't currently have one so i'll look for one with that

[ornate jungle]

While I applaud your desire for redundancy here... The way to actually resolve this problem is not by deploying more cables...

[full storm]

thank you

[full storm]

my house is very old, it has lots of lead so i have absolutely no wifi working upstairs, it's not lead paint but i feel like most of the upstairs is a faraday cage or something xD

[ornate jungle]

If it's plaster... There could be lots of metal in the walls indeed.

[full storm]

yeah it is, i think the metallic corner and support things are making it act like a faraday cage which is slighlty inconvenient but i have like 1km of ethernet cable so it's fine

bought that years ago from a tech shop that was shutting down, got all of it for like £70 ish cat 6e, pretty sweet

[topaz patrol]

Ruckus disagrees

Please note that the SZ100 does not support Link Aggregation (LAG). However, the SFP+ ports can be connected to a switch, utilizing Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) on the switch to block one of the 10G ports. This provides a redundancy link as a workaround.

I hope this answers your query.

🤣

[nova glacier]

uncle ruckus gives networking advice now?!

[copper cedar]

Hey dudes! I need some quick networking advice because i have someone here setting up some wiring

I have a cat 6 cable being run, but rn on hand only have a cat 5 terminator. u know like the plastic plug u crimp on

will that be an issue? since it is all RJ45

[tight pecan]

The connector is not a big issue. CAT5 vs CAT6 is about the cable itself

[copper cedar]

I figured! I read something about there might be a deduction in speed because of how the wires might touch or something?

[tight pecan]

That's just bad termination at that point. Nothing to do with the connector, maybe just a crappy crimper or user error

But generally as long as the person terminating your cable runs is doing it right, you should be fine

[ornate jungle]

With how ethernet works, you won't normally notice a "reduction" in speed so much as the link negotiation would be impacted by a poor connection. It's a digital signal; when it connects, it negotiates the fastest compatible link speed, like "Gigabit" or "100 Megabit." If the cable / plug is "bad", it'll negotiate a lower link speed.

[copper cedar]

So sounds like I should be fine

I can ask him when he comes back to finish other work to use the cat 6 connectors and switch it out

is it worth it? or dont bother

[pastel monolith]

No difference between an rj45 connector on a cat 5 cable or cat6 cable

The jack is physically the same thing regardless of which cable is hooked to it but the shielding in the cable itself and arrangement of wires running through the cable (and length, loss/attenuation) are what effect the max transmission speeds on a given line.

[silent flax]

stuff bellow Cat6 is not officially rated for 10 gigabit networking, but 5e for example is known to run 10 gigabit with reasonable lengths (<30m) just fine

[blissful thorn]

I'm looking to set-up an openwrt travel router with a vpn.

Networking is not my thing, I was previously recommended proton vpn.

Just curious some recommended VPNs looking for good value / performance - I'll have to check for servers near my location.

I personally use Mullvad right now for just general use

[opal pagoda]

i just run my own vpn

the config that i am running right now from my home router

[blissful thorn]

Ah yeah we were talking back in 2024. I was essentially looking to find a way to isolate computer systems that I'm testing from my home network.

One of the recommendations you mentioned was a GL INet travel router with ProtonVPN.

I'm finally getting around to this now I was looking at the GLInet GL-AXT1800 since it appears to be faster + whichever VPN is worth it

[blissful thorn]

Good to know

[opal pagoda]

All you need is a firewall, hell even a decent router can do that

[blissful thorn]

Yeah trying to keep it relatively simple and affordable - work with computer hardware but networking is not my thing.

I have a network switch that is connected to the main network router which is just the standard hub from our ISP.

Systems are built and tested using the network switch. That being said I have customers who bring their systems for service, and in some cases I need internet access to say windows update or troubleshoot something specific.

So main goal is having a way to isolate these customers systems from my main network.

Like I plug into specific ethernet ports on the network switch and it's just isolated. Which is why the little travel router idea didn't sound bad

If a new router is a better way to go - feel free to let me know any recommendations

[compact maple]

Help needed, My Asus Wi-Fi 7 router i bought 2 months ago, it crashes and reboots whenever i start download a game from my ps5 or steam deck, anyone know why and if i can fix this easy? I set it to reboot every Wednesday to help clear it but even that doesn’t help.

[white prairie]

Hi as I play around and figure out my home networking situation, I realized that in my routers admin control panel, every 30 seconds or so when I reload the page, the amount of channels in both my upstream and downstream change, from 5 to 2 or sometimes to even 0 and then back and forth and so on, seemingly randomly, is this a problem?

Possibly just a visual bug on the web end of things?

[nova glacier]

the xb8-t has 32 downstream and 8 upstream channels (though afaik comcast's only gives out 4 upstream channels in most regions). 5, 2, and obviously 0 channels is terrible. Your internet would be cutting out and lagging extremely often if this isn't just some visual glitch. You could try factory resetting it ig

These stats are fairly important to be able to see for a new installation, since it would help to determine if your cabling is good

[white prairie]

That’s my worry tbh, idk when the drop cable is from and such

My thing is, my speeds are typically fine, except sometimes my upload will shit out, but my download is strong

My numbers were wrong, I didn’t see the list goes further bc I’m looking at it on my phone

Downstream gets a lot, upstream gets like 5 max

But sometimes when I refresh there are legit 1 or 2 of each, or even 0

But even when 0 appears I still get a download/upload speed so idk at all

[nova glacier]

If it really lost all channels you'd have a connection interruption. If it's only interrupted for a few hundred ms, many things could survive that albeit with some lag. If you do video calls, gaming, or anything else real time it will be pretty awful

[white prairie]

Hmmm

Could that explain why sometimes on like a FaceTime call my phone swaps to cellular

Randomly

Bc otherwise I don’t notice many disruptions, only slightly maybe upload packet loss on games

[nova glacier]

old coaxial cables and/or splitters can become damaged. From lightning strikes and water damage to name some examples. A tech will have to come out and find which link is damaged, they'll charge you if it's inside your home but they won't if it's outside (i.e. their equipment).

[white prairie]

Sometimes my upload speed drops from 25-30 to like 1mbps for an extended period of time which I haven’t been able to pinpoint yet, but also haven’t noticed in a while

[white prairie]

What abt if it’s in the attic (afaik that’s where the isp coax line is)

[nova glacier]

the one line that comes from the outside would be their responsibility normally

[white prairie]

Is there any chance that the line that comes from outside goes directly into my attic?

I’m in the US if that matters

It’s probably a very old line to be fair

I’d have to look outside my house I never really checked for a cable line

[nova glacier]

yes. I can't 100% confirm that that line is definitely comcast's side, but normally it would be. You could technically have the comcast drop only at the very edge your property and that coax line coming into your attic is actually yours too. afaik, it's normal for their line to go all the way into the home though. That's the case where I am, but I'm in a town home so it would be impossible for it to be any other way.

[white prairie]

So is there a chance it can be replaced for free

Or likely no just because it’s in my house

[nova glacier]

yes. You can quicken the troubleshooting for the tech if you can connect the modem directly to the incoming line, though idrk if that's a realistic option where your line comes in. It would immediately indicate to them it's a problem on their side if there's an issue even when it's connected directly.

[nova glacier]

Their line going into your house is the one thing inside your house that's comcast responsibility. Although actually the modem is their responsibility is too, since it's a rental from them.

[white prairie]

True

[white prairie]

Okay I’ll look into it if I run into those upload speed problems again, because honestly my speeds are good I pay for like “up to” 1300 down and 35 up and typically on Ethernet receive 900down and 25 up

But here look at this

This is reloading at different intervals, it’s bizarre to me but also partially because I’m not exactly sure what I’m looking at

[topaz patrol]

Fuck DOCSIS 😌

Always having so many issues

[nova glacier]

fr, DOCSIS? More like DOCSHIT

Costs more money to install and operate, but hey it can theoretically be so amazing! Just ignore the shoddy reality of coaxial cabling and sharing physical medium with all your neighbors

[white prairie]

@nova glacier does this make any sense to you lol

[topaz patrol]

Sooooo expensive. So many truckrolls for stupid issues and/or issues that will never be solved

[nova glacier]

No. I've never had a modem fluctuate in channels like that. I have 32+1 downstream and 4 upstream at all times. Your phone switching over to cell is definitely a sign this is an actual problem.

[white prairie]

So you feel that it’s not an issue on the web page end and that it’s an actual malfunction in my router and/or line?

Idek what’s the first step to fix it lol

[nova glacier]

does the xb8-t not show your correctable/uncorrectable error counts? My modem's diag page shows counts for each channel so it's easy gauge if it's signal integrity problem

[white prairie]

Yes it does but idk what that means

I’ll screenshot it one sec

Oh there’s a lot

[nova glacier]

It's normal to have some and the count won't reset unless the device reboots, so the absolute number isn't the most telling. It's how rapidly it's increasing

[white prairie]

That’s what I got rn, does this mean anything or should I reboot and see how many appear in X amount of time

[nova glacier]

nah, you're good since it shows unerrored there too. Those look perfectly fine. The upstream side can only be checked by comcast though

although one of those channels looks fucked

but I don't think 1 of 32 is much of a problem

Given it's still tracking all the channel's errors, maybe it is just a glitch in the ui after all

When your channels do show up, those power levels and SNR listed are acceptable too

[white prairie]

So what do you say I do with this information

Have comcast check the upstream?

[white prairie]

And wdym with this

[nova glacier]

channel id 25 has nearly a 50% (correctable) error rate. It's technically fine as they were corrected, but that's still a bit odd

[nova glacier]

Unless it's a very clear problem they probably won't do anything about it tbh. A shite upstream with packet loss is just expected on comcast, although they are upgrading it to mid split docsis 3.1 in some regions. Your upstream channels were all 3.0 though. If your region is monopolized, don't hold your breath on getting that upgrade any time soon lol

[white prairie]

Wdym 3.0

So basically Comcast is just mid and I have no choice lol

[nova glacier]

ATDMA is DOCSIS 3.0 upstream. OFDMA would be the DOCSIS 3.1 upstream type. You only have a DOCSIS 3.1 downstream channel, the OFDM one

[nova glacier]

welcome to the DOCSHIT experience

[white prairie]

So basically with my upstream only having docsis 3.0 it can cause my inconsistent speeds?

What is docsis and why is it shit

[nova glacier]

It's a means to reuse existing coaxial cabling infrastructure that was already there for cable TV. These days it's actually more expensive to install and operate than fiber optics, which is why you might notice fiber internet is faster, more reliable, and yet actually cheaper.

[nova glacier]

it shouldn't really be a problem for bulk uploads that will last long enough to smooth out the inconsistency. It just will result in packet loss and general unreliability for real-time things like gaming, video/audio calling, or remote desktop. It's also just slow as shit, 35-40Mbps in 2025 is absurd

[white prairie]

Wait could this be because I used an old wire that went from my satellite to my DVR but rerouted it into my attic to go from my main splitter to my receiver (after I got rid of satellite tv)

[nova glacier]

A coaxial cable that's protected from the elements should last quite a long time, but it's not impossible. One of the in-wall cables in my condo was water logged and corroded to shit, despite it being an interior wall that definitely should've been protected

[white prairie]

I mean the cable runs outside

On the roof

[white prairie]

^But could that really cause just random upload speed drops or likely there would be more issues

[nova glacier]

pretty sure your signal levels would've indicated a completely bad cable, but a bad connector could be more intermittent from random vibration and such ig

[white prairie]

What do u mean

The cable is bad?

[nova glacier]

Would've indicated, but they don't indicate that

[white prairie]

Because of the visual bugs in that admin panel which are likely false?

[nova glacier]

When the channel info is showing up, it's indicating a quite healthy signal integrity for downstream. >40dB SNR with power level near 0dBmV is very excellent. 45dBmV on upstream isn't all that good otoh (only comcast can check upstream SNR, so it's hard to fully gauge). You'd expect to see a bad signal for both down and up if the cable was bad

[white prairie]

Alr got it, so basically the only way to explain upload speeds sometimes being meh is just Comcast being Comcast?

[nova glacier]

Well not necessarily, but probably. There are amplifiers in the street that can fail and they can fail for just upstream even if it's a single unit that amplifies both down and upstream. Only comcast can see the SNR and error rates of upstream. It's hard to know if upstream signal integrity is actually a problem based on the power level alone. Yours is in spec, just at the end of the acceptable range

[white prairie]

So you think if I call or somehow get in contact with them I can get the upstream snr and error rates?

[nova glacier]

I doubt they'll tell you them unless the tech is extra friendly. They'll just let you know if it's out-of-spec or not

[white prairie]

Usually their techs have no clue what they’re doing

So honestly not sure if I’d even be able to get to that point lol

But what would I even ask for over the phone or on the chat

[nova glacier]

just say what your experiencing, upload speed isn't always what you pay for and you have packet loss. They might make you do bullshit script steps like rebooting the modem, but you might be able to just ask if they can check the signal levels on their end. Depends on how much of a script reader the first level support agent you get is

[white prairie]

Yeah I figured

[nova glacier]

It's something they can do remotely in a few minutes, so they shouldn't give you that much trouble once you get to the second level support agent

[white prairie]

One time they needed me to spell Ethernet for them over the phone

[icy wagon]

Yo anyone know how to restore wifi on a pc? i need help

[topaz patrol]

https://dontasktoask.com

[copper cedar]

So would u say just leave it, or should I ask when he finishes the full job another day to swap the connector from Cat 5 to Cat 6 connector

[nova glacier]

It seems the standard only changed the connector's loss requirements with 6a so I would assume you're good with 5e rated connectors on cat 6

but also tbh unless your cable is near the max length, I highly doubt it would make a difference even on 6a

[pastel monolith]

Yeah only difference from connector point of view is if it has more space for thicker wires and shielding or if is tight fit for getting wires in basically otherwise is same crimp into wire connector. Wouldn't worry about swapping em but probably good to just spot check if they don't have cable tester to make sure all the connections are good, different rj45s even for just Cat5e termination have more or less "wiggle" for the wires and for the plug in jack/keystone itself.

[white prairie]

@nova glacier do these ohm terminator caps go on the coax wall outlets?

[nova glacier]

yes

[white prairie]

Is it okay if the pins in them were bent on arrival

I just corrected them when I put them in

Ig they were rly cheap lol

[nova glacier]

yeah, it's fine as long as they don't break in the outlet ;p

[white prairie]

Alr

[white prairie]

Did I do this part right lol

That’s the main splitter, just wanna make sure I did the filter right

[nova glacier]

it should just be low pass filter which is bidirectional, though my ocd would do it that way too so I say that's the "right" way 😉

[white prairie]

Wdym low pass filter

[nova glacier]

it passes frequency below 1002MHz where DOCSIS is. MOCA is above that

[white prairie]

But it’ll work right?

[nova glacier]

yea

[white prairie]

Alr

Do I have to ground this splitter??

The old one wasn’t and it’s in a spot where it’s almost impossible

[nova glacier]

You would need a lightning arrestor before it if you grounded it, so don't

and probably a ground loop isolator too. I honestly don't know what's "best practice" in this case, but I've never seen it done before so I assume it's more hassle than it's worth

[white prairie]

No clue even what that is

Prob lol

Do I need to do anything besides press enable on the gateway moca settings

[nova glacier]

a path for a lightning strike to go to earth without fucking your equipment up, since grounding that splitter will create a nice path to ground for lightning to go

[white prairie]

Makes sense

[nova glacier]

moca 2.0 should automatically connect up. Only 2.5 added MPS for a moderately more secure setup process

[white prairie]

It looks like the new splitter helped the upstream power? One sec I’ll send a ss

It also looks like downstream power went up a little

Is this good or bad, looks like speeds are good if not better anyways

[white prairie]

Got it I’ll try it out

[nova glacier]

there's gonna be some fluctuation that just happens over time. It's actually more ideal to be closer to 0dBmV for downstream but anything between -7 - +7 is good iirc, but SNR is more important and that's still excellent. Your upstream is improved though, less power is better in that case

[white prairie]

Okay

[white prairie]

Okay good

The coax light on the moca adapter isn’t lighting up

Oh it turned on when I enabled moca on the gateway, idk I guess it needed it

[nova glacier]

yes, sorry I just meant there's no setup process besides having it enabled

[white prairie]

Oh alr lol

All good now I gotta test the Ethernet

[nova glacier]

hope everything goes well cause I have a plane in the morning tomorrow so I'm heading to bed now

[white prairie]

Everything works perfect thank you, safe travels

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll One of my friends has my ISP's 10G service. He sees around 9.6Gbps on speedtest. According to the install tech his fiber runs all the way back to the NOC. It's not XGS-PON or passive in any sort. And the CPE they gave him matches that since the datasheet does not mention PON anywhere.
Which is interesting since my CPE is a XGS-PON ONT. So I wonder if new 10G services are XGS-PON and not carrier Ethernet all the way.

[waxen scroll]

i'm still stuck here on cable while ATT fiber has been laid on the road ways outside my neighborhood for a while now.

[obsidian jewel]

Hi, I've got some pretty dumb/basic networking questions if anyone has a second?

[pseudo blade]

Don't ask to ask.

Either ask or if it is indeed remarkably basic, ask in #1027757333117415424

[obsidian jewel]

Ok fair enough, thanks

I'm trying to incorporate 2.5GbE into my 1GbE network. I bought a switch and network adapter but couldn't get it to work

I'm not even sure if what I want to do is possible

I have 1Gb internet going into a modem that has a single 2.5GbE port. I plugged Cat5e into the 2.5GbE port and connected the other end to my 2.5GbE switch, then plugged another cable from the switch into my PC, but it wasn't having it

Theoretically that should just be a 2.5GbE network at that point

Problem is my DHCP server is on another device so I had to plug that in as well and that's only 1GbE

I could see half the network when it was all connected but nothing could get through to the gateway AKA the modem. Only 1 in like 8 pings went through

I think I have a dodgy switch but I just wanted to confirm it is possible to have 1GbE and 2GbE on the same LAN with no management

2.5GbE works perfectly directly from the modem/gateway to my adapter in the PC

And 1GbE worked perfectly through the switch

It was only when I changed over to 2.5GbE that issues started appearing

Apologies for the wall of text

[pseudo blade]

Eh go ask in #1027757333117415424 and I'll reply, this is a back-and-forth kind of thing

Quick answer is probably that your cat5e cable isn't appropriate for this task

[obsidian jewel]

😬

Okay thanks I'll retype it all when I can be bothered

[pseudo blade]

Alright sure

[obsidian jewel]

But in a nutshell, a single unmanaged LAN can support different speeds as long as the hardware is correct?

I don't need a management switch?

[pseudo blade]

It can, yes. Depending on the circumstances.
A managed switch is not a requirement however.

[obsidian jewel]

Ok great, I'll pop this over to tech support after I blow up some more Terminators

[pseudo blade]

Ok, I'm not hanging around though so that will be someone else's problem.

[obsidian jewel]

That's fine dude! Thanks for your help! You've helped by mentioning the cables!

My patch cables are cheap garbage, it could just have been that!

Didn't even think of it

As I said the long Cat5e works perfectly when it's directly into the back of the PC, it was just that going into the switch and then the patch cable from the switch to the PC that was the problem

So I'll buy some better patch cables

(and a new switch cause I sent the old one back lol)

[molten cairn]

Hey guys
Who can help with networks pls?
So I'm writing my own logger
Although more like a traffic sniffer
I have a question about how best and how to process application level protocols
I personally would be too lazy to parse the entire payload of a packet, or just the first lines, doesn't matter, because it's not always possible to understand what protocol it is, especially if it's not a text protocol like HTTP, but pure bytes in hex
I also thought that it is possible, for example, to look at the recipient's port inside of the tcp/udp protocol header
But other guy told me that this can only help indirectly cause protocols does not really depend on certain ports

Sooooo any suggestions please???

[pastel monolith]

So why are you doing this? I mean is it for the sake of learning network protocols and programming with network interfaces or do you just want the thing that does what you're saying?

with regard to ports that are tied to specific functions or protocols, it's true you can basically use any port for making a connection and then can be using any higher level protocols on top of UDP or TCP for encryption or otherwise, but there are already apps that will do what you're saying to try and piece apart and let you filter out all the traffic too

[molten cairn]

its just a practice project if u r so curious about it

[pastel monolith]

there is the list from IANA and some "typically used in practice" or defacto standard or actual standard ports for protocols like 80 for http or 443 for https or 22 for SSH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers

[molten cairn]

Thanks
However i think i can use it like a "hint" for my program, nothing more

[topaz patrol]

Or port 1024 through 65535 for the nintendo switch 😂

[opal pagoda]

fyi this is tipical dev response to a network admin asking which ports their software uses

all of them

[ocean tulip]

i wanna make my own wifi network on proxmox is it possible

[opal pagoda]

what

[ocean tulip]

i want a wifi network but my server is running proxmox

and i wanna keep it

[opal pagoda]

you want a ap?

[topaz patrol]

Yeah, I was joking :P

[opal pagoda]

i wasnt

[ocean tulip]

my own wifi running on a connection to another router

[noble frost]

Hi im looking for an 1Gbps router with customisable QoS do you have any recommendations?

[ocean tulip]

ASUS RT-AX88U / RT-AX86U

[noble frost]

Ty but arent they old or something? they dont sell on my countrys best eshop : c u got any other recommendations?

btw the eshop is Alza

I want it from there bc it will come tmrw

[ocean tulip]

TP‑Link Archer BE550

Asus ROG Rapture GT‑BE98 Pro

[opal pagoda]

tp link er605 or er707-m2 if you need 2.5g

[noble frost]

the first one doesnt have customisable QoS if i see correctly and the second one is again not on the shop😭 sorry for complicating things guys but tysm for help

[noble frost]

gimme a sec ill check

[ocean tulip]

dw

[opal pagoda]

def has it, i have it

this is where i prioritised game data

[noble frost]

so that means you can prioritise games? Not just a port? Im sorry for not really understanding but im trying to learn : )

[noble frost]

these are really expensive for my budget : (

[ocean tulip]

i dont know anything else

[opal pagoda]

it has bunch of them already "fingerprinted" so you just select them

it was introduced in relativly recent firmware update so that might be why people are saying it doesent have it

[noble frost]

I found an ASUS GT-AX 11000 for 113 but has one broken antena. Is that worth it or is it a bad router or smt

[noble frost]

So if i play things like fortnite, csgo, val i can prioritise them?

again sorry for asking so much questions

[noble frost]

113 euro mb

[topaz patrol]

Yes I’m pretty sure the 1.0 revision didn’t get it though, which was annoying

[opal pagoda]

yep, they are already in the database

[noble frost]

wow so if my family is downloading something and watching movies my internet will still run no problem?

like my games

[ocean tulip]

should

[opal pagoda]

they will get deprioritised

[noble frost]

so thats the tp link er605?

[opal pagoda]

yes, i have er605

nice, a month ago new firmware came out and i didnt realise
it comes with nice features

[noble frost]

Thank you so much man today I got a new internet (200Mbit up and down with 3-5 ping) so im really happy : )

[ocean tulip]

i got a 1gb up and down

my whole house is 1gb in every room its needed in

[noble frost]

I live in a village so we dont have better options : (

[opal pagoda]

But keep in mind that this is pure router and it doesn't have integrated access point, you can reuse old router for that or get a separate access point

[ocean tulip]

where

[noble frost]

Běloky in czech republic

[ocean tulip]

k

nice place

[noble frost]

Thank you : )

I have a question

Do I need a modem and a router? Rn i have this from mikrotik and if i buy smt new i dont really understand what i need.

[orchid shell]

do you guys think there's a device or smt that could boost mobile data reception that i could put on a vehicle?

not talking about those mobile Hotspot things

[ornate jungle]

Idk what "SMT" means but yes, there are cellular boosters for your vehicle, or rather, for an RV / camper. Just keep in mind that a booster can only boost the signal available in the area. If the booster has better hardware / antennas than your phone and there's at least somewhat okay of a signal, it might help. But if the booster is cheap garbage or there's almost no signal at all, it's not going to help much.

[orchid shell]

i see

and smt is an abbreviation for "something"

[ornate jungle]

Ah I see. Abbreviations are bad unless you know everyone is already aware of what they mean. (And even if people are aware, remembering a plethora of abbreviations is hard for some.) Anywho, thanks for clarifying.

[pseudo blade]

Mikrotik hAP AX3 😈

Legit it's what I'd use but you'll find a small army of people here warning you away due to the UI complexity as if anything else similarly capable doesn't have its own idiosyncrasies

[pseudo blade]

Oh look at that you literally own an RB951. Yeah if you know how to use it buy a hAP AX3 then, or an AX2 if the money's that tight.