networking

[topaz patrol]

Markdown is “perfect” how it is :p
There are plenty of forks and adjacent projects if you want more options

[main hazel]

let me rephrase that , they should add tabbed content to the markdown used in discord :0

[topaz patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-think-of-the-profits-profits-helen-lovejoy-gif-22673503

[main hazel]

okay im not getting that one ,... there is ||hidden content|| , so tabbed content would just be that but displaying a number of different texts , clips or images , in the same spot instead of hiding it lol

[topaz patrol]

Why would Discord waste time doing that when they could spend time adding more microtransactions? :P

[main hazel]

why would discord need to add that i assume they use a library for that,... so whatever version of markdown extended lib they use , someone should add it there, secondly how much do you expect that adding something like that would cost, css exist , html exist , and there are markdopwn implementations that support integrating html and css to do markup on the markdown... seems to me that 80% of the work is already done , as they already implemented markdown and , their platorm ships on a webengine that by its verry nature can already parse display html and css so :S

tabs in html and css need maybe 6lines html and 8css + (2html for each tab) for it to work ...

[topaz patrol]

that would cost, css exist , html exist , and there
Dev time isn't free (at least I hope Discord is paying their developers)

I also don't think Discord is using a library for markdown. Links etc are quite new features

And it took an awfully long time for them to allow servers to disable markdown for links etc to prevent people getting pwned - Adding full on html sounds like a nightmare```[https://google.com]

(https://sketchy.site)```

[dense moat]

They never really did. Doing it via automod is a bit of a hack...

[topaz patrol]

LMAO of course

[peak cloak]

this is one of his most misleading videos

sometimes I hate veritasium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iph500cPK28

[twin pier]

yeah the original question is not well written and doesn't make much sense

However the video is very good and has some insights you might never have thought of

He has a follow up video

[main hazel]

ha thats one youtube didnt list in my search, the others i bosted right below the previous (had to remove the embeds) are also all followups on that vid)

i dont know if it actually misleading intentionally 🙂 , i think that its merely a reaction on when you learn something weird curios and unexpededly new , that you are exited about and want to share with your friends ,... but the topic is so obscure you know in advance not a single one will actually be intrested or be listinening after the first scentence so you you devise a test that they think they know the answer to and then show them their wrong and why that is, amzing them in the process, unfortunatly dong a test with an everyday situation rarely lines up with what you wnant to beshowing so you make it extreme , and in doing so you dont notice that some deteail of the original setup no longer holds true 🙂 "or atleast that is alteast a possible explanation, and i rather not attribute to malice what is incompetence 😛 , his goal was to demonstrate that electrons dont actually move thta much in the wire , lets say compared to water or so ... and that the energy is transferred in a not so obvious way

||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHIhgxav9LY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iph500cPK28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-WCZ8PkrK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQsoG45Y_00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gezZklOsGbg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vrhk5OjBP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_X2cMHNe0
||

damn the list but out of order 🙂

[thin hedge]

o: that would be nice

[naive nest]

My dad wouldn't let me drill the ceiling 💀

[lone crane]

wtf

omg

that is hilarious

[silent flax]

why not just put it on top of the rack and call it a day ?

[lone crane]

its meant to be mounted that way, unless that is the basement speeds will be A LOT worse if its just on top of the rack

[silent flax]

i mean you can still point it downwards, or on top of nearby cabinet. But whatever, his choice

[lone crane]

point it on the metal

or do you mean make a metal bar to the side and mount it that way

[silent flax]

for example, yes

also i should have not googled unify ap

[lone crane]

wtf

HMMM

[silent flax]

exactly

[lone crane]

jank 100

[twin pier]

this looks like it would have awful signal

[opal pagoda]

suboptimal

[naive nest]

All that effort and it looks like the AP's radios are dead 😑

[lone crane]

why not the normal webui

[opal pagoda]

cli supremacy

[lone crane]

NAUUUUUUUUUU

[opal pagoda]

i do everything in cli anyway
atleast on cisco

[lone crane]

😦

[opal pagoda]

on forti its 50-50, some features arent visible in gui

[lone crane]

wat

[opal pagoda]

fortigate

[lone crane]

i know

but like it costs what like 5k and stuff aint even in the web ui

[opal pagoda]

stuff for diag is 100% only in cli

[lone crane]

sad

[opal pagoda]

if everything is operating nominaly then gui
but when wired stuff come up then switch to cli and dig in

[lone crane]

at least its not a shit ton of stuff you need to do in the cli

like for me doing basic pinnging and such is what i feel happy enough to do in cli more then that ehhh

[opal pagoda]

i wouldnt configure firewall rules on cli except in some mass configuration change scenarios where it is easier to export config, mass edit it and then import it back in

[lone crane]

yea

[opal pagoda]

notepad++ my beloved

[opal pagoda]

disasemble it to find if anything obious failed

[clear igloo]

sacrifice to the volcano and pray for new hardware 😄

[opal pagoda]

no point in scaraficing it, you need to throw in a brand new unit

[clear igloo]

But sacrificing the dead in some manner grants a performance buff

Usually +15% speed or -10% to latency

[opal pagoda]

you cant sacrafice already dead, it has to be alive

[clear igloo]

Well not with that attitude you can't

[clear igloo]

notepad++ or sublime text ❤️

[opal pagoda]

never tried sublime

[clear igloo]

I remember notepad++ was having some issues a while ago and I found sublime to be a solid replacement for it but now I can't remember why I jumped

[opal pagoda]

loicense

[clear igloo]

I think it had something to do with the devs saying if you have a period in the filename they would no longer append file extensions

for notepad++, but sublime lets you do it

[twin pier]

Cli sucks so much on unifi, I'd be curious if you used unifi network and itd magically start working inexpkicably

[opal pagoda]

never touched the stuff

[twin pier]

if you havent yet I would try the actual unifi network program or the phone app

a small chance of something magically working

[opal pagoda]

i avoid unify as long as they avoid making their cli good

[twin pier]

Guess you'll be avoiding them

you might be able to get some money if you sold it on ebayor somethinf

[naive nest]

I'll just ask the seller to exchange it for a working one

[peak cloak]

edgeos was descent

I actually liked that cli

but they basically stopped supporting it

[pseudo blade]

Too Mikrotik, not sufficiently Apple-esque for their roadmap lol

[opal pagoda]

can you even install openwrt on unify stuff?

[amber urchin]

I think the point of buying unify stuff is for their software, not the hardware.

[pseudo blade]

The answer is usually the opposite of "Is anything in it Broadcom"

Obligatory fuck Broadcom moment

Looks like a number of their access points are supported on recent OpenWRT firmware

The Qualcomm ones

[wet wigeon]

got this new network card for my desktop, and the speed is quite good for it coming from aliexpress

uses the aqc113 chip
running at pcie gen 4x1

test running between my desktop and UDM-PRO-MAX

[lone crane]

m yes from 1.73 to 9.41, big stable

o no wait i cant see

eh still 1.73 and 2.88

[wet wigeon]

That's 4 tests running in parallel

[stuck grove]

Finally got it working again, upgraded to a 3 drive raidz1 config for my pool so now i have actually redundancy

gotta transfer the files back over though, so it's gonna take a minute

also is only transfering at 1g, and not 2.5g like it's supposed to, but it's probably network topology issue

[sonic lynx]

can anyone help

[amber urchin]

Can be network, can be drives too. I got 25gig but only had four HDDs so I capped out below even 10gig.

Fixed that by gettin an HBA and 16 HDDs. lol

[stuck grove]

it did 250MB/s for a second then immediately dropped to 100MB/s

CPU utilization isn't anywhere near max on any cores, so probably a drive speed thing

[amber urchin]

yeah cpu is another possibility.

[stuck grove]

given it did 250mb/s for a second, it probably filled the drive cache super quick then had to slow down

so it's probably a drive speed thing, they aren't exactly the best drives

they're recertified constellation drives

[lone crane]

not enough ram

[lone crane]

use wired internet

[sonic lynx]

i am

[lone crane]

use it harder

[lone crane]

if i remember right there is some thingy about a arrays speed being dependent on the fastest drive in each vdev or some shit but i do not really remember.
but each drive should be able to do like 150/250MB speeds alone

[sonic lynx]

???

[lone crane]

might just be roblox things

or you doing dumb things like a VPN or such

[sonic lynx]

happens on ever game

[sonic lynx]

i dont have any'

[lone crane]

i also wonder why so much ram but only 2.5g and 7TiB usable

[lone crane]

are you on DSL or fiber?

since i think you are wireless

[sonic lynx]

i dont know

[sonic lynx]

im not wireless

[lone crane]

where is the modem

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-challenge-cat-fall-off-table-taking-a-tumble-cheese-on-head-gif-14154057

[lone crane]

are you connected to a extender or straight to the modem

[sonic lynx]

straight to the modem

[lone crane]

is that modem using fiber or DSL or mobile network

[topaz patrol]

Send through a picture of the modem, that's easier 🙂

[lone crane]

yeah was about to say

[lone crane]

but i think he died

[sonic lynx]

idk

[lone crane]

picture take

pls

i beg

PLS

[lone crane]

pls take picture of it so i can help you

[lone crane]

take a picture of it irl on the underside

@sonic lynx

[sonic lynx]

uh

my phone camera broke

[lone crane]

ffs

[stuck grove]

wanted to populate every memory channel

that’s 1dpc

[lone crane]

what like 500-1000$ in ram and like 200 in storage or something like dat

[stuck grove]

300 in ram, 200 in storage

ddr3

[lone crane]

aaaa ddr3

[stuck grove]

yeah…

[west cobalt]

I bought a network card and got only the network chip. Where do I get a PCI to insert the chip?

I was trying to buy a chip compatible with OpenBSD.

[lone crane]

What???

[keen urchin]

That's not how that works. That's not how any of this works

[twin pier]

can you show a picture of what you have?

[lone crane]

just shows a IC

[twin pier]

that would be funny

[lone crane]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-am-i-reading-what-am-i-reading-linus-tech-tips-linus-ltt-gif-25129292

[lethal gust]

Hey so I'm doing a job for a small business with a friend, setting up their network and I want to get some advice, do I setup a captive login portal or PEAP and MSCHAP?

Please @ if you respond otherwise I likely won't see it 🙏🏼

[west cobalt]

@lone crane @keen urchin @twin pier this

[lone crane]

M.2 wifi card

Why did you not just get a normal intel ax whatever wifi card as in the whole darn thing with the antennas and pcie board

[topaz patrol]

You need something like this

[west cobalt]

I am building an OpenBSD server. It accepts specific hardware.

[topaz patrol]

That is just a dumb carrier board

Not sure a server running openbsd needs wifi, but you do you I guess

[lone crane]

o yeah, most servers cant even use wifi

[frosty stone]

No servers*

Nor should they

[lone crane]

i kinda wanna try myself but i think its possible to get proxmox to do wifi

[topaz patrol]

Of course it is

It’s just Debian

[west cobalt]

It is a good point that a server does not need WiFi.

I guess this is what was shown. @topaz patrol https://a.co/d/3k3cuS4

[onyx bobcat]

ive got a home game/plex server and i'd like to set up a static IP. my ISP charges for this and I was wondering if there is an online service that routes a static IP to my changing one. if not free, cheaper than $15/m would be awesome

[ornate jungle]

Technically there's no need for a static IP if you're just trying to host basic stuff for fun / testing. https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/glossary/dynamic-dns/

[onyx bobcat]

well im hosting an ark server and its annoying for people to lose the favorites or battlemetrics to lose my stats when the IP changes

[ornate jungle]

No idea how BattleMetrics handle stats, but if you're using a Dynamic DNS hostname from one of the many free providers (or you buy a domain and set it up in Cloudflare), you can have it automagically updated with your public IP address. That way users only need type in the domain, rather than an IP address.

[onyx bobcat]

reading up on No-IP right now. seems like the free option is good enough for what i need. any experience?

[ornate jungle]

I've been using No-IP since DynDNS stopped offering free Dynamic DNS options. (Though I only use it as a backup - everything I regularly access is mapped to subdomains off one of my main domains via Cloudflare.)

[onyx bobcat]

neat

[stuck grove]

no-ip is great, i’ve used em before

[topaz patrol]

There are also scripts available that update your IP using Cloudflare's API

[topaz patrol]

https://github.com/K0p1-Git/cloudflare-ddns-updater

[west cobalt]

A free account requires monthly logins. An affordable plan allows longer gaps between logins.

[onyx bobcat]

so i got No-IP set up, and the port forwarding has been working on my server for a long time. my remote desktop connection works through the No-IP one, but the ark server ports arent working (on neither steam nor port checker)

do i need to configure something else for use of steam ports?

[west cobalt]

I think other ports are a premium service, on No-IP.

[onyx bobcat]

so is the remote desktop one offered for free?

[west cobalt]

https://www.noip.com/support/knowledgebase/port-80-redirect

Redirection allows TLS ports, and port 80 is a service. Web Redirect is what you are describing.

[topaz patrol]

Please please please don't open port 3389

[onyx bobcat]

is there a better way for remote desktop?

[west cobalt]

What OS?

[onyx bobcat]

Win 11

[west cobalt]

I am not sure.

[onyx bobcat]

unless theres a way to make it not use the common remote desktop port

[topaz patrol]

Either use a VPN tunnel (either directly, or something like Tailscale) or implement proper RDP MFA with something like DUO (wouldn't recommend for home use)

[topaz patrol]

Doesn't matter what port. RDP should never be exposed to the internet

[onyx bobcat]

even with account restriction and network level authentication?

[topaz patrol]

Yes. Unless it's a strict IP whitelist with DUO/ Windows Hello for Business MFA, it shouldn't be open to the internet

[pseudo blade]

Buy a cheap domain instead of using the IP address directly to join, should just work

[onyx bobcat]

fair thats a good idea

idk much about domains. would 1 domain be for each port

[pseudo blade]

A free option is duckdns.org, if you want it to keep up with your dynamic IP

Same deal as no-ip I think

[pseudo blade]

God no, you can make as many subdomains as you want, and they point at an IP address ergo all ports

[onyx bobcat]

so would it be like a regular ip like

[west cobalt]

Dynamic DNS does sell every subdomain. But that is not the case in registering IP addresses.

[onyx bobcat]

exampleipthing:42069

[topaz patrol]

example.com:8080
example.com:2928

[west cobalt]

A dynamic dns service sells every subdomain, like No-IP.

[onyx bobcat]

wierd, wasnt working for my server ports from no-ip

[west cobalt]

A DNS registar does sell the domain and every subdomain.

[topaz patrol]

Likely because no-ip works in some strange way

[onyx bobcat]

omg duckdns works

Meagus you are my hero 🙏

any security i should add while using it?

[topaz patrol]

Close 3389

[onyx bobcat]

i'll figure the remote stuff out. anything other than that?

[topaz patrol]

lol

[west cobalt]

Use end-to-end encryption, like SSL

[onyx bobcat]

this would just be for the remote stuff? or should it also apply to my other ports for my server

[west cobalt]

Certificates are available for communication over ports.

[peak cloak]

Rdp isn't encrypted

Unless you use rd gateway

Also @west cobalt don't say things you don't know or aren't confident in

[pastel monolith]

So a domain itself should only run about $20 a year not $15 a month, you could probably find cheaper but if getting "just domain" no hosting no email no certs then shouldn't cost much for registering a name itself (just need to find something not taken). Then you can go into the domain admin pages and point the top level domain or any sub-domains to IPs, still need to go update it there if your WAN IP changes but at least for ISP I have that's like once a year maybe.

With regard to SSL/TLS certs, using them depends on the server/service being able to encrypt the data and handle the SSL/TLS handshake to exchange secure keys with the client it's communicating with (so the data in flight between the two is encrypted/scrambled), so they are especially good for anything that needs to be secure and sent across networks, for "internal only" it is less important but if is an option usually a good idea. SSL/TLS certs you can get from "lets encrypt"/eff.org for free once you have a domain pointed to a server, but again only applies to certain services that can use the certs to encrypt traffic. (sort of related to this you can SSH tunnel and port forward to have an encrypted channel on whatever port over the SSH connection).

Separate from the SSL/TLS type encryption you can use something like "tailscale" or wire-guard the underlying tech to setup a VPN connection (tailscale web service simplifies sharing the connections with others and managing through a web interface for a small fee). With VPN connection into your network as the "Exit node" you are effectively allowing others to have encrypted connection into your network, but they have pretty good UIs for managing access and whatnot (some routers offer some amount of VPN connectivity too so maybe worth checking)

[onyx bobcat]

yeah the $15 a month was my ISP for static ip

[pastel monolith]

ah

[onyx bobcat]

hell to the no 😭

[pastel monolith]

about the whole blocked ports thing, it varies from one ISP to another but if able to connect by IP then that kind of port blocking/re-routing stuff shouldn't be necessary typically

[topaz patrol]

Honestly, that's fair. Static IPs are a massive PITA to administer (unless you're able to have entire subnets of static addresses)

[onyx bobcat]

i mean afaik

the ark ports shouldnt be a big deal

should i worry about plex ports?

[pastel monolith]

idk, typically I've only seen like email ports blocked or sometimes web traffic so like 25, 80, 443, sometimes 80/443 are just used for remote admin of routers too, again it depends

[topaz patrol]

These are usually all that is blocked

Outbound
TCP/25 (Except to
Inbound
TCP/80
TCP/443
TCP/25
UDP/135
UDP/137-139

[pastel monolith]

buddy of mine who hosts plex server for a few of us does it on VPS service so non issue there, for ark I've run the server at home too before, know it was a bit of a chore to setup but don't recall if I ended up pointing domain over to it here

[onyx bobcat]

its helpful to just have the 1 ip for my members otherwise they lose it in favorites

[opal pagoda]

Just use a domain name

Then you can point it wherever with A or AAAA records

[peak cloak]

I just use a dynamic dns, and also my IP like never changes

very rarely

[warm cradle]

if I plug something like this in my laptop, can it improve my wifi signal?

[stuck grove]

Potentially

[stuck grove]

those work by having their own wifi chip onboard, so it entirely depends on how bad your wifi is

those things are usually utter garbage, with almost any laptop having better wifi

[opal pagoda]

Maybe his internal antennas got disconnected for some reason and that's why its bad

[stuck grove]

Could be, or could be an ancient laptop

[warm cradle]

My wifi signal is just super unstable, but I think I am going for a powerline adapter with mesh wifi for my room

[stuck grove]

ethernet or moca not possible?

[opal pagoda]

You can also always get a better wifi card if its mini pcie or m.2

Intel ones are excellent

[warm cradle]

its a laptop

[stuck grove]

laptops usually have m.2 on the inside

though i’d verify the onboard wifi antenna is connected properly

[opal pagoda]

Unless its el cheapo

[stuck grove]

or el oldo

[opal pagoda]

El oldo will just have a mini pcie one, still replacable

[warm cradle]

I dont think my laptop is the problem, when i am next to the router, I get 300Mbps (thats my subsription) but when I am in my office it rangers from 50 Mbps to 50kbps

[opal pagoda]

Maybe you should contact IT at your work as ap near you could have some issues

[warm cradle]

*home office

[peak cloak]

what type of house are you in

wood, concrete, etc?

could just be really bad wifi coverage due to that. Check out the wifiman app to see your actual signal strength

[lone crane]

why not just mesh to the room

then use the mesh node in your rooms rj45 port

[pastel monolith]

50kbps is an issue, 50Mbps isn't really, but mesh routers are usually a good option if need to get better range/coverage across an area, if mesh router is "too much" then can consider relocate router (ideally away from windows and somewhere "centralized").... I moved mine and was better here but then decided to just upgrade to mesh router setup so one for ground floor/basement, one for upstairs

56kbps modem should always come with funky handshake sounds, 50Mbps is enough to stream whatever content and be fine, 25Mbps is basically consensus on good for 4K content

[steady yacht]

welp i have a new ish router on the way

[wet wigeon]

I have gone 10gbps on the internal network

Server has this connectx-3 up top

And my desktop has a aqc113 10gbps nic

[steady yacht]

nice im using a HP 561T 10Gb in my desktop not the most fancy but works for what i need

[wet wigeon]

I specifically wanted a aqc113 cause it runs over pcie gen 4x1

Cause the pcie slots on my desktop is kinda wack

[candid violet]

so i recently bought some cheap motherboards from ali express, using which i really want to setup the home lab, but the problem im facing is regarding the case, as i want to move forward with the server chasis, which i literally dont have any idea about.

is there any DIY server chassis or design which i can follow.

im hoping this clearly states what i really wanted to ask

[native kettle]

I have a D-Link xStack DES-3526. I don't know the username or password and any available manuals doesn't tell me how to factory reset it. I want to put the 2 Gigabit ports in a link aggregation. Does anyone know how to reset it to factory defaults?

[pseudo blade]

Like rackmount?

[stuck grove]

you can always try the handful of ole reliable usernames and passwords

ex. ADMIN ADMIN, admin password, admin PASSWORD, root Password, etc

a lot of people never switch the logins like they're supposed to

[thick minnow]

got a new switch

[pastel monolith]

Nice wewd

[thick minnow]

now i just unifi APs

im still using AirPort Extreme’s lmao

cuz theyre cheap asf

[silent flax]

possibly in similar way to this ? Still via console, but with some key combo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoypT4iyKPw

[high wren]

Anyone experience with eap tls?

[topaz patrol]

https://dontasktoask.com

[weary marsh]

is moca a good option for internet? currently i use a wifi extender upstairs and then connect many routers to its single ethernet pport

and if i can use moca, would i be able to use a diplexer for tv too

[astral mason]

I've just installed MoCa today as I have a spare coax line running to the back of the house

MoCa supports up to 2.5 G but my ISP plan is gigabit so pretty much saturated

[ornate jungle]

I know what EAP TLS is, however, unless you provide more specific details, any attempts to ask me for further assistance with this may result in you receiving an answer of "no idea." It's best to ask your full question in as much detail as possible so that others have context, and thus would know if your question is even something they'd have a chance at answering.

[ornate jungle]

Assuming the ISP placed a MoCA filter on the incoming Coax line, yes, they can be a good option to run wired network connection in homes that don't have existing Ethernet runs.

[cinder sapphire]

my site that connects to cloudflare for DNS and proxies wont come back up and I don't know whats wrong with it ;-;

[frosty stone]

Severe skill issue... If you want help maybe provide some info

[crude aspen]

Does MoCa work in the UK and co-exist with Freesat TV? I have coaxial cables for freesat (which I don't use in the room I plan to ethernet up) so thought that might be an easy way to get it ethernet but am worried it might muck up my Freesat tv in other rooms or if it even works in the UK because all the adapters I could find are US.

[astral mason]

I live as inland into England as you can get. However, you may have isolators and filters on your coax line to reduce interference for your freesat connection. I had a couple of filters that restricted signals over 1.5Mhz which would block MoCa. I cut them out and recrimped the cable.

I have 2x of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08XP8MMFG

[opal pagoda]

Check logs haha

[cinder sapphire]

I just needed somewhere to exclaim my pain but if I could get some help with it than id appreciate it.

I run a jellyfin server on a Windows machine. I run most of the Starr programs, NPM, and Cloudflare DDNS through docker. Everything was working perfectly fine until yesterday when I discovered none of my proxied websites were reachable. I'm not sure where to start looking for issues or potential fixes.

It is almost 100% a skill issue

[waxen saddle]

Common denominator is the proxy?

[opal pagoda]

provide cloudflared logs, without logs it is just an guessing game

[cinder sapphire]

I'm not sure where I can go for logs. I was looking through the analytics and logs tab but there wasn't much information

[opal pagoda]

how do you run cloudflared?
if just on linux command is cloudflared tunnel diag

https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/connections/connect-networks/troubleshoot-tunnels/diag-logs/

if on home assistant there is a log tab in the add ons info

[cinder sapphire]

I'm using docker-compose to run DDNS with my API key

I can send my compose file after redacting some info

I use the Cloudflare dashboard on their website to manage it

[opal pagoda]

in that case api key most likely expired

i tought you were using cloudflare access aka cloudflared

[cinder sapphire]

The logs in docker seem to state it's connecting. It's able to update the IP address

[cinder sapphire]

Not even sure what that is lol

[opal pagoda]

its a way of hosting sites without opening ports and without ddns

[cinder sapphire]

I'm just paying for the domain through them and making records for my subdomains. It worked for a couple of months

[opal pagoda]

have you checked if your isp put you behind cgnat overnight?

[peak cloak]

so you port forwarded?

make sure that works still

[cinder sapphire]

Think so. I just have my https ports open on my router for NPM

[cinder sapphire]

Not sure what this means

[hasty plinth]

anybody know a good way to get my VM and my PCs network to interact smoother? trying to do some network based audio routing and its been kind of a mess so far. seems like a bit of a waste to send this data out to my router or further just for it to come back but both are on the same hardware and VMware bridge mode is obscuring it from my main network I believe.

could be mistaken though, I have gotten it to send from my VM to my host, but not the other way around strangely.

[opal pagoda]

Log into your router and look for its WAN/Internet IP address. If it's any of the following, then your router doesn't have a public IP address and is on cgnat

192.168.x.x

10.x.x.x

172.16.x.x through 172.31.x.x

100.64.x.x through 100.127.x.x

[cinder sapphire]

It starts with 76 so I believe it's public

[weary marsh]

I am planning the same thing, if I just run a coaxial line will I be able to do moca and satellite tv at same time through a diplexer?

[peak cloak]

yes you should be able to

they run on different freqencies

[weary marsh]

Ok thanks

[opal pagoda]

Have you checked ip in router UI or with some website?

[cinder sapphire]

The router's UI is Google Home and it reported a 76 number

[native kettle]

This worked. Thank you so much

[lethal charm]

I dont understand why cloudflare tunnels say public hostnames can be used to expose http in the docs but in the configuration ui it gives you tcp ssh rdp and more options. Is it actually http only ???

im trying to put an xmpp server behind cloudflare tunnel and it slowly appearing to be impossible

[opal pagoda]

iirc other ports can be exposed but you need to install a client on the other side

[lethal charm]

yeahh thats what I thought after doing some more research. Dang. I think I'll need to get a VPS or something and use it as a proxy sort of thing

[opal pagoda]

which ports do you want to publicly expose?

[lethal charm]

xmpp wants 5222 and 5269 at minimum

I think there are a few alternates you can use but the basic spec is those 2

Right now I just use conversations.im for a public account but I want to self host it while not exposing my home ip, so the original plan was cloudflare tunnel while hosting on my home server

[opal pagoda]

yea a proxy is your best bet, for communication between your proxy and home you could do wireguard or tailscale

[lethal charm]

yeh ill have to research my options, ive done wireguard for accessing my home network so that will probably be easiest

I figure that would be something like wireguard server + nginx on the VPS and then xmpp + gluetun on the home server or something maybe

[opal pagoda]

or just host xmpp on the vps itself

[lethal charm]

Yeah I guess no real reason why I cant just do that, would be simpler for sure

U can run like hundred thousand users on a few gb of ram lol

[opal pagoda]

i dont know what storage requirements for it are

as vps storage is pricy

[lethal charm]

zero for me, i wont be saving chat logs

well ok basically zero, needs to store the login information of course..

[opal pagoda]

well then, thats solved

[lethal charm]

can recommend a vps provider? Low price definitely the goal for this

[opal pagoda]

for my stuff i use oracle for price of free99

there is a neet search engine for vps providers
https://www.serverhunter.com/

[lethal charm]

o_O

Wow that looks very convenient I didnt know about this

[tight pecan]

Oracle cloud infra free tier

Highly recommend

[topaz patrol]

At least for Aussies, this is missing pretty much everything

[native geyser]

i think my question fits here. i remember watching an ltt vid where they used a device that uses the coax cable to transmit internet to another coax cable to then plug a pc with ethernet. is that still viable if so what are recommended products. I purchased a home and my gaming room is far from my fiance gaming room. idk best ways to connect both pc to ethernet cable

[topaz patrol]

MoCA

[native geyser]

any recommended brand. there are a lot of option and i rather nail buying the first time around. option i am seeing on amazon are. Hitron, goCoax, ScreenBeam, and asus. also is moca the way to go or are there different options?

[topaz patrol]

Unless you want to run cat6 cable, MoCA is your best option

I can't recommend any particular brands

[native geyser]

I am glad to hear this. I am getting 1gig internet. what should i look for in when purchasing?

[cinder sapphire]

Update: Updating docker fixed it

I have no clue what went wrong

But docker was throwing a tantrum and updating it fixed it

[frosty stone]

Absolute no trust in anything that would allow contabo to advertise

[pastel monolith]

docker networking stuff and disk access always bit of a mess, when it works is great and is usually the case but some weird edges/bugs that crop up now and again, anyways nice to hear you solved it

[cinder sapphire]

been bashing my head against a wall for the last couple of days

docker is a mess. Idk if truenas woudlve been any better

[pastel monolith]

most recent one was at work using Quarkus Java framework and some issues with how it auto sets up/tears down containers related to networking stack on Aarch64 mostly it seems

Rancher managed containers work okay, Colima took some extra doing to get to function with their test parts though, anyhow feel the docker networking pain 😄

[opal pagoda]

I dont use contabo, is it bad?

[frosty stone]

It's as close as you can get to being a scam without legally being one apparently

Also they do dodgy stuff

[topaz patrol]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VPS/search/?q=flair%3ABAD%2BEXPERIENCE+contabo&

If you're in Australia or Singapore Binary Lane is worth looking at

[twin pier]

contabo was pretty bad when i used to use them a long time ago (not for a very long time, you can guess why)

they seemed to be extremely overprovisioned because my vps was getting upwards of like 90-98% cpu steal time, to the point that entire cores were hanging for minutes

[lethal charm]

I have finished the networking... It is deeply evil feeling and yucky.
Got an oracle free tier a1 vps thing working. I found the easiest way to do the proxy I wanted is actually ssh reverse tunneling. Dunno how trustworthy that is. Regardless had to make a custom docker image to hook into there and expose 5222 and 5269 for xmpp. Also port 80 for certbot, but you actually cant reverse ssh onto port 80 so I had to set up nginx on the vps to map 80 to localhost:8080 and then the ssh tunnel makes 8080 jump to the home server's certbot on port 80. Kinda wacko. Bingo bango 5 hours later I am logged into my xmpp and can send messages

[frosty stone]

lol that top one
this was like 8 years ago so I can't remember exactly but someone told me to run a command to check the disk type... and they weren't ssds

[topaz patrol]

LMAO

[opal pagoda]

btw make everything autostart as in last few years they had sent me a reboot request on email.
if you dont comply and reboot it yourself they will do it for you and if your service doesent auto start it is down

[lethal charm]

wtf!!!!
thanks for the tip

[pseudo blade]

Someone's misconfigured their proxy

Also what a stunningly ugly layout

[tender lantern]

What is the name of this? I need to find one but for S/FTP

[peak cloak]

keystone

https://www.truecable.com/products/cat6a-toolless-keystone-jack-shielded?srsltid=AfmBOooj1ovCcnMkboKj4ut5t6vaXHlgYst7gizns4Rtxz_OaGt64Ra7

[white dragon]

today's online comptia test in a computer systems class

[stiff herald]

Thats nuts.

[peak cloak]

not really

[opal pagoda]

you needed to write everything in binary and not hex

[strong remnant]

Yo can anyone help?
I moved my ssd to my new system and i cant connect to the internet

[opal pagoda]

wifi?

[strong remnant]

Yea wifi

[opal pagoda]

if you can connect it with a ethernet cable temporarily it will automatically grab drivers for wifi card

[strong remnant]

I got the drivers too but they wont install

[hidden obsidian]

They aren't installing while you're connected via Ethernet?

[strong remnant]

Im not connected to any ethernet

[opal pagoda]

were you using windows 11 before?

[strong remnant]

No

[opal pagoda]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pchelp/comments/1hw5jap/qualcomm_fastconnect_7800_wifi_windows_10_driver/

that file explorer ui looks like windows 10

[strong remnant]

Yea it is

Oh damn it only supports win 11?

I dont wanna go to 11 i like windows 10😭

[opal pagoda]

its eol in few months anyway

you can always throw that qualcomm card away/sell it and get a intel one

[hidden obsidian]

There's also cheap USB wifi adaptors you can get at local retail stores for cheap. They likely won't be on Wifi 6e and still on 5, but its fine enough to get started. Ethernet will continue to be the best if you want the best speed/latency for performance tho

[opal pagoda]

best and sometimes easiest way is to get a long ethernet cable and connect it directly to a router

[hidden obsidian]

Wired connections will always be better than wireless if you can make it happen

But if you aren't doing any online gaming that would be beneficial with low latency games, then the convenience of Wifi could be fine.

[opal pagoda]

fiber is technically wireless

[hidden obsidian]

I mean its a long glass tube for lazers, but its fine lol

[opal pagoda]

high frequency isolated enviroment where EM can traverse

[hidden obsidian]

Relatively speaking yeah, just have to deal with some loss over longer distances and other frequencies of light if you're doing stuff like CWDM/DWDM

[strong remnant]

i got on ethernet and now msi utility installer is installing a buncha drivers and one is wifi

ill see if it works

[opal pagoda]

leave it for a bit to do its thing

[abstract cipher]

Hey! So a coworker was looking to replace an ancient airport express as a router/AP for a stage sound and lighting rig he controls with an iPad. The old airport has been dropping connection and seems to be on it's way out, frequent dropouts and requiring reboots.

I was thinking about getting a unifi express 6 to replace it. I'm assuming it won't have any issues working offline, just providing lan access and an AP for one security camera, iPad, and laptop?

[pseudo blade]

Doesn't look like it offers a lot of value for money as a standalone AP for that use case, rather pricy for a 2x2 AP and a lot of unnecessary functionality... but I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work!

[abstract cipher]

He's a big apple guy so ubiquiti felt like a pretty good replacement for the airport lol. Plus it's in the same footprint as the old express, and is type c powered which is a plus for the setup

[pseudo blade]

I guess if he wants the apple look and is willing to pay for it...

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[abstract cipher]

Part of it is that it's also getting paid for by work and I wanna dip my toes into ubiquiti

I already manage one kinda jank unapproved network at my site, if I have another it'd be nice for it to be less jank

[pseudo blade]

It's still going to be standalone though

[abstract cipher]

Yeah I was looking at maybe getting a uxg-lite, cloud key, and probably one of their wifi 6 aps but that's blowing the budget a little

And there's not really space where it all needs to go to set up an extra computer as a controller

[pseudo blade]

Also overkill and poor value for that one job

[abstract cipher]

Oh way overkill

It's a situation where there is money that needs to be used or it will no longer be available to us

[pseudo blade]

Hence why you give it more responsibility and integrate more stuff and do networking right at a venue level ideally

Or is this a road kit?

[abstract cipher]

Elementary school stage lmao

[pseudo blade]

Pfff

[abstract cipher]

But the stage manager/music guy sets it up like a road kit

[pseudo blade]

So what's the security asks for

[abstract cipher]

It's ridiculously overkill

[pseudo blade]

Get IT to put an access point in

Set up a VLAN

[abstract cipher]

Nah network services won't let us have fun

[pseudo blade]

Have them cover an AP and a small switch and make them do routing at the school network level

[abstract cipher]

Big school district they have THEIR standard and there will be NO deviation

[pseudo blade]

Bring in management and point out the shadow IT problem then

[abstract cipher]

So separate offline networks for little stuff like this ends up being the best solution

[pseudo blade]

Shadow networking is especially bad

[abstract cipher]

Eh I just have it not touching the internet or any of our computers, same with a security system up front, it's just a desktop running as nvr with a few security cameras

The stage network will never touch any of the school equipment, same with the security cams

[frozen cobalt]

is it possible to build a mesh network with just routers from different brands?

[lone crane]

no

[dense osprey]

better to just use them as access point

[topaz patrol]

Well...

https://www.wi-fi.org/discover-wi-fi/wi-fi-easymesh

[lone crane]

anything able to do it?

[topaz patrol]

Yes.

[lone crane]

like what

[topaz patrol]

https://www.tp-link.com/au/easymesh/product-list/

Like every SOHO product TP-Link has made in the last 5 years

[lone crane]

other then TP link too and ofc the main part of working together

[topaz patrol]

Here's a non-exhaustive list:
https://wikidevi.wi-cat.ru/List_of_Wi-Fi_EasyMesh_Hardware

[topaz patrol]

ASUS AiMesh is just EasyMesh

[lone crane]

aaaaa

[topaz patrol]

I bet you Cudy Mesh is also just EasyMesh

[lone crane]

welp i suspect what he has does not use dis stuff

[topaz patrol]

It would be a similar story everywhere. EasyMesh certification is likely just too expensive

[lone crane]

also came out in 2024

[topaz patrol]

Looks like Mercusys also has EasyMesh certified products, but that's kinda cheating

Trendnet has EasyMesh gateways

It's pretty common

[opal pagoda]

ok, and?

[lone crane]

Tailscale or just wifi

Just wifi

[mild crescent]

just WiFi

[topaz patrol]

[nova glacier]

Got kinda curious about the unused mediatek rz616 in my desktop and how exactly it would compare to Gbe. Router is a asus zenwifi et8 with 4x4 160MHz 6GHz. Links were all 160MHz 2x2 @ MCS 11 (ie. ~2400Mbps)
BCM4388 <-> RZ616

[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec   615 MBytes   516 Mbits/sec  1993             sender
[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec   613 MBytes   513 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.09 GBytes   936 Mbits/sec    0             sender
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.07 GBytes   922 Mbits/sec                  receiver

BCM4388 <-> Gbe

[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec   625 MBytes   524 Mbits/sec  2698             sender
[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.06  sec   623 MBytes   519 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.09 GBytes   934 Mbits/sec  129             sender
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.06  sec  1.07 GBytes   911 Mbits/sec                  receiver

RZ616 <-> Gbe

[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.06 GBytes   906 Mbits/sec  569             sender
[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.05 GBytes   899 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.03 GBytes   885 Mbits/sec  1212             sender
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.02 GBytes   879 Mbits/sec                  receiver

Gbe <-> Gbe sanity check

[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.06 GBytes   908 Mbits/sec  361             sender
[SUM][TX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.05 GBytes   901 Mbits/sec                  receiver
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.04 GBytes   897 Mbits/sec  851             sender
[SUM][RX-C]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.04 GBytes   889 Mbits/sec                  receiver

[thorny osprey]

which usb to ethernet adapter is good for routers?

[clear igloo]

Why would you use a USB to Ethernet adapter on a router?

[thorny osprey]

Im turning my old laptop into a router bcz it has a cpu way stronger than the router Im using rn
problem is it only has 1 ethernet port
i need two for a WAN and a LAN

[clear igloo]

So then the question is why do you need a powerful CPU in your router?

[thorny osprey]

LOWER LATENCY!!!

880mhz cpu on router aint cutting it vro

[clear igloo]

So what are you doing on your router that's hammering your CPU? Because unless you're doing tons of QoS statistics and whatnot it's not hitting the CPU

Also USB to Ethernet is going to add more latency than anything you're getting on the router alone

[radiant linden]

its going to be like 1-2ms more tho?

not much right? ( asking cause I also use usb to ethernet)

[clear igloo]

Depends but it could be more depending on how the USB chipset is wired up to the CPU or not

But if the whole goal is lower latency, adding latency is the opposite direction

[radiant linden]

well, its a thunderbolt (idk) but it surely is a usb4 typeC port

[topaz patrol]

lol

[clear igloo]

Then that's going to be 1-2 ms of latency on thunderbolt compared to a USB A port which is wired different

[radiant linden]

the actual usb to ethernet adapter is only usb3 tho (typeC)

[thorny osprey]

idk I cant see whats going on in the router as im using stock firmware but
(1) its definitly increasing my ping as my friend (same block I can walk to his home)
(2 )who has the same router lineup (TP LINK AX) and
(3) the same isp but inferior package but his cpu sounds faster
(4) plus he gets lower latency in the same game server

[thorny osprey]

is there like hardware offloading or something

with ethenret adapters

[clear igloo]

No

[thorny osprey]

sooooooooo how do I add another ethernet port vro
I cant find any other ideas

[radiant linden]

on a laptop, you need to get a usb-ethernet adapter

but I don't think you will have any improvements running a "powerful" cpu as your router

except for wasting more electricity (W improvement xD)

[clear igloo]

Is your friend hardwired and you're on WiFi?

[thorny osprey]

He's on wifi and im on ethernet
yes you heard that right

[radiant linden]

how much of a ping difference are we talking btw? is it like 50ms and 150ms? or 50ms and 60ms?

[thorny osprey]

he gets the same with ethernet now tho
First he was using wifi (still lower latency than me)
then he started using ethernet which jst boosted his up and down speed

[thorny osprey]

50 ms vs 80 ms

sometimes i reach 90 or 100

and he stays chillin at 50-60

[radiant linden]

I mean, I wouldn't mind a stable 80ms if it doesn't make sinewaves everywhere

I am not clicking heads anyways on my FPS games, doesn't matter if I get 1ms or 100ms or my PC costs 5k USD 💀

[thorny osprey]

I would appreciate the lower latency so much in a melee combat game vro
specially for parrying and dodging

is the chipset ASIX AX88179 gud
it has hardware offloadin

[clear igloo]

If you really want to go this route I would look at a mini-PC or fanless NUC of some kind
It's not about the chipset on the adapter, it's about the USB to CPU latency and handling of that path which could go through other chipsets on the laptop before making it to the CPU even

[thorny osprey]

how can I know how well the latency is on my laptop? the one im tryna convert into a router

[radiant linden]

also, if you really want, you could just buy a cheap enough router that supports openWRT

[thorny osprey]

mine supports openwrt
but shares if not higher latency than stock somehow
the only thing I would be benefitted by installing it rn is adblocker on all devices lol

anyone

theres a free mini pcie slot on the mobo on the laptop
can I make sure of that

[topaz patrol]

Lmao

[thorny osprey]

??????????

[naive nest]

Please can I get some recommendations for Wi-Fi 6e access points? Ideally something with free cloud management or a controller I can host in a VM.

[clear igloo]

TP-Link EAP7xx series

The WiFi 7 APs are cheaper than their 6E ones, or about on par price wise

[naive nest]

Thanks, I'll check them out.

[waxen obsidian]

opinions on the tp-link powerline network extender AV1000? I plan to use it on separate electrical circuits, so i hope it will work fine

gonna buy it at micro center today, hope it works out

[opal pagoda]

if you can run ethernet cable do it

powerline is mid

[waxen obsidian]

Unfortunately I can't

Power line it is

[opal pagoda]

maybe moca if you have coax

[desert sequoia]

how do meshes work?

like is it unified with the original router? Or is there a separate connection to it

[twin pier]

all routers can connect to eachother and form the most efficient path automatically instead of hardwiring everything directly to the main router

[opal pagoda]

Bad ones: little bit smarter than the old repeater
Good ones: uses a dedicates backhaul band

[hearty lily]

Not sure if this is best channel. I'm looking for a thermostat that has a remote sensor. I have 1 furnace but supply to 2 separate apartments. I intentend to move out of one of these apartments so not exactly wanting WiFi

[opal pagoda]

What do you have currently?

[hearty lily]

Just a regular programmable thermostat

Issue is the upstairs and downstairs are very different in terms of temperature. Ive also been looking into 'smart vents' but all seem to need wifi

[opal pagoda]

You need to install zone hvac dampers on supply ducts and controll those

Controll board: https://zoningsupply.com/buy/smartzone-2l

[hearty lily]

Thanks I'll look into this trying not to really demo anything

[opal pagoda]

you will need to install 2 dampers anyway, as for thermostats i believe some can be gotten that are wireless (non wifi)

[hearty lily]

Yeah and I think this also needs a special piece of duct but will look into this more

[wooden grail]

i have a PIA openvpn configuration but my school network blocks vpns how should i go about getting my vpn working?
originally i got around this issue with the built in shadow sock feature in the PIA client but i cant use that client anymore becuase bazzite is immutable

[opal pagoda]

well there is 2 main ways it can be blocked
dns
port

find out which it is

[wooden grail]

i cant connect to the vpn to begin with

[opal pagoda]

then dns

[wooden grail]

what does that imply?

so what should i do?

[opal pagoda]

try using 4g to establish the vpn connectivity and then turn wifi on and after short time turn 4g off

[wooden grail]

i dont have any data or cellphone to do that

[opal pagoda]

any logs from the client?

[wooden grail]

im not using a client

im using openvpn in the network page

[desert sequoia]

Wifi router is the blue, my room’s the green
PC is on the other side of the room literally facing the window, im getting like only 250mbps on wifi vs the closest room to the wifi (In purple) getting 700-800

Do I get a mesh to place either at my door or at the orange spot?

I have no idea how my speed and latency will be affected if I do so VS getting a new motherboard, where Ill use the one mobo as a testbench

[pastel monolith]

Yep basically want main station to be "near the middle" ideally and put mesh extension points half way between the main station and whatever you're extending to.

All wireless stuff always sort of a matter of guess and check too though, once have it on hand and connected just try in a few spots to see what works best

[random siren]

even flatpacks get removed/cannot be installed?

[topaz patrol]

What if you just didn’t :)

Not your network, not your rules

[wooden grail]

then i cant even use startpage

[wooden grail]

it doesnt have a flatpak release

[topaz patrol]

Oh well

[wooden grail]

could you give anything helpful?

[topaz patrol]

Yes. Not your network, not your rules

[wooden grail]

whats the point in even responding to my message if all your gonna say is that

[topaz patrol]

Use a personal hotspot if you’re desperate

[wooden grail]

i dont have a cellphone

also i signed a contract thing when signing up to bring a device to school and use the network and no where did it state not being able to use a vpn

[topaz patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[ornate jungle]

It doesn't need to - if it's not your network, you're subject to the network's rules. That said, you could always ask the network's administrators for a copy of the network's Acceptable Use Policy.

[crude aspen]

Hey. I've been getting more into an online multiplayer game recently so looking to connect my office to ethernet to improve latency and also improve local Moonlight game streaming to the TV in my living room. I connected my gaming PC via ethernet by physically moving it near the router to test and Moonlight streaming was a lot better.

I may also occasionally do VR streaming from my PC to my Meta Quest 3 but not a big priority.

For the local game streaming use case, I'm better using Moonlight right? 20m would be too far for a HDMI cable and I'd need DP to HDMI anyway because my GPU only has one HDMI port and I use that for my office TV.

I currently have a EE 4G WiFi router and three BT Whole Home mesh discs (5ac). The mesh discs are wireless backhaul so I imagine that's not helping the latency combined with my 4G internet.

No idea how my EE router matches up but since I need to use a 4G SIM, thought sticking with stock would be best. I've disabled the WiFi and just use the mesh.

I figure I should probably upgrade to 6E mesh discs in the future but thought getting ethernet would be more beneficial and also being able to backhaul them (assuming it works through switches).

Flirted with MoCA but that wasn't plug and play so decided to bite the bullet and am looking to get my local sparky to lay some ethernet cables (likely under the floorboards since I want to get some more power sockets in my office since I can't plug everything in even with extension cables).

Would love to get some advice about my plan to check it's sound before asking the sparky to make sure I'm not missing anything since I don't know much about networking.

I bought this Ugreen 30m Cat 6 cable for the run: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C77JDKKT

Do I need to run another cable as a backup or more cables? I've read about running as many as possible but I won't be able to connect them from my router so I'll need to use a switch anyway?

I already own this unmanaged Gigabit switch: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00AYRZYG4 and plan to buy another. Is there any benefit to using the Ubiquiti Unifi Switch Mini Flex instead if I plan to just use it as a plain unmanaged switch without the vlan homelab stuff?

The rough network layout I'm planning is:

Router

Mesh Disc 1,
Hue Hub,
Switch 1

Media Client PC,
Steam Deck (Ugreen 6 in 1 Dock),

Switch 2

Media Server PC,
Gaming PC
Mesh Disc 2
Steam Deck (Handheld)

[peak cloak]

For structured cabling (anything that goes in the wall or floor) you don't want that cable

Also electricians typically suck at data

You would want some sort of cat6 roll, run it, then terminate at each end

[crude aspen]

Thanks for the info :). What sort of profession should I be looking at? A networking person? I'm very much hardware inept and live in the middle of nowhere.

[peak cloak]

It depends, sometimes they advertize themselves as does things like AV (speakers and stuff). If you feel up to the task it could be pretty easy to do yourself

get some cabling like this https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13674 and then a jack for each side https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=310

don't run right next to high voltage and you should be good

[thorny osprey]

if there anything I can do to reduce latency in game? Like I get worse ping than my friend even though his setup is inferior (except for his router cpu strenght)
and I get sudden lag spikes (90 ms to 130 or even 270)
also I use ethernet

[thorny osprey]

the spikes r really annoying

[golden plume]

can someone tell me why with my internet on cod im getting high ms? I moved my setup lke 10 feet away from my router and now i'm just getting high ms. if i put my laptop legit ontop of my router i get good ms. makes no sense

In the same room as well.

[pastel monolith]

Well so a few things...

1. latency is a product of all the devices in a given route from your end device to whatever server you're connected to
2. if you eliminate a piece of hardware say hardwire directly to modem/router, disable router portion and just passthrough connection from modem to device you can determine what the latency is with or without the routing
3. Wireless is a fickle beast, there can be points of convergence of waves that create higher amplitudes at different specific locations based on how waves are reflecting off of surfaces and around the room, so "directly on top of antenna" might have the highest in theory power of waves hitting it but different minor offsets in the relative position of antennas or angles etc. can affect the attenuation and actual signal a receiver gets

if you try different "speed test" services or even just pick different servers to hit you'll get different bandwidth and different latency values, if you want to check "local only" you'd need to run the speed test server on the LAN, haven't used this one myself but one open source project for running the speed tests locally here https://github.com/openspeedtest you can use lots of linux networking utilities for getting some rough info with regard to bandwidth etc. as well just wget/curl request output or other more advanced tools, but is sort of meaningless to talk about latency without narrowing down the client to server path or making sure are connected to the same game server, even then routes for packets are not fixed

If want to get into the nitty gritty of it too usually traceroute and or wireshark are some of the lower level network utilities that can be used but takes some doing to understand how to use them and what they are showing you https://kadiska.com/using-traceroute-to-measure-network-latency-and-packet-loss/

For wireless signals there are phone apps (wifi analyzers) that can help to visualize some of the info about overlapping networks (on the same frequency/channel) and network signal strength/amplitude that can be handy to adjust router settings and whatnot, but answer for why is latency X is always a whole lot of things

[opal pagoda]

qos if congestion is an issue

[golden plume]

does this look good?

wifi speeds

[pastel monolith]

Yeah looks fine 20-60ms ping still in barely noticeable territory... Again though comes down to where a game server or test server in this case is located in terms of the network routes and response times to your client device.

At 60 fps it's 16ms per frame, so if 20ms "behind" is a bit over a frame so unless doing "frame perfect speed runs" this kind of thing doesn't matter... When gets up into 100+ or 200ms it becomes a delay you can get screwed by in competitive online games, extra quarter second to start reacting... Average blink is between .1 and .4 seconds so ya know don't blink

[lone crane]

am i doing something dumb here

[ornate jungle]

So technically, what you're after is possible - our setup uses xFinity's XB7 potato modem that is currently NOT bridged, to which I have a FreshTomato (OpenWRT) router connected at the moment.

• XB7 has a DMZ entry for the Static IP assigned to the FreshTomato router.
• FreshTomato router then has all my port forwarding / NAT / firewall rules.

[lone crane]

welp yolo, first gonna set a static for my own gateway/ modem so one day one of their devices does not just get exposed to EVERYTHING

[ornate jungle]

It's not a great setup, and regularly breaks itself because Comcast's modem firmware feels like it's written by developers on behalf of a sales & marketing team who hasn't a clue how anyone might want to use their modem. (For example, half the settings CANNOT be managed from the XB modem's web-based admin pages - you must use their mobile app, which itself relies on Comcast's backend and requires internet access to function.)

[lone crane]

the point of the unifi gateway is to not need to deal with it

[lone crane]

oo yeeaa that kinda stuff is pure pain

altibox does that

[ornate jungle]

You'll need access to the ISP modem to configure DMZ for your own router / gateway's IP address, after which, this whole concept should work.

[lone crane]

well yeah that is why im saying i wanna do dat, since i can access it but i would imagine i cant ask about port forwarding every other day

[signal jay]

Network 'noob' here. Asking about External hardware from my ISP.

TLDR, I have a router (A server) that has SFP+ 10GigE port that I'd like to use as my main input from my ISP. At the moment, there is a fiber line ran up from their road junction stuff, and then into an external box (with a AdTran Total Access 354E). I would IDEALLY just run the fiber straight into my system and skip all their exterior crap, saving them from having to spend money on upgrading my hardware pretty much ever(?) and allowing me a (theoretically?) nicer connection.

MORE CONTEXT:
They're upgrading my entire system this year sometime to 2gig (Currently 1gig).
I asked them if they would run the fiber (or allow me to run the fiber) from their panel to my basement (Via a Fiber jumper, my own switch or however it would be ideally accomplished) and they essentially just told me that "They do not offer that as a service".
I plan to bug the actual techs once they're here upgrading me, but if for whatever reason there is a real technical reason this isn't possible, I'd love to hear it.

Roast me, yell at me, tell me I'm being unreasonable or dumb. BUT give me the deets! I want to understand better the limitations from their end, the benefits/pitfalls of bypassing their exterior stuff, all the nitty gritty. I want to be informed and understand.

[topaz patrol]

End users using their own ONT seems like it would cause nothing but issues

They will also still want an exterior device where the lead in terminates

[ocean kettle]

im moving soon for uni and my room wont have a dedicated Ethernet port and i want to make shure my desktop can still connect to the internet.

I found a Fenvi ac1200 wifi 5 adapter on aliexpress for 10$ cad it uses a intel wifi 5 chipset im just making shure im not burning 10$ for no reason.

using a r9 5950x on a aorus ultra gaming x470 board with 32gb ddr4 and a 9070xt any other specs needed just lmk.

[hidden obsidian]

Usually the ONT is hard coded into the OLT so you can't replace it without the ISP doing it on their end. I work for a FTTH ISP and they are like this

[meager ginkgo]

You can skip / use your own ONT with a little bit of work. Look into the 8311 discord for more details. I’ve been running my AT&T fiber with a GPON SFP ONT for about a year and it works great. Just gotta clone some of the original ONT details

Now.. you aren’t 100% guaranteed to be able to do it, some ISPs do weird things with their wavelengths (AT&T Alt-Optics) or have certain brands that make it near impossible but a lot of ISPs can have their hardware bypassed.

[topaz patrol]

Expect to receive no support and expect a bill if you break something

[meager ginkgo]

^

You’re entirely on your own if you do it

[signal jay]

I assumed those two bits at least, but nows the real question- is it worth it? Their infra wont allow me to go over 2gig currently, but eventually they will (It’s in their timeline for a good 5-6 years down the road, but still).
So then do I just do sfp+ -> rj45 on a short cat6e run to their crap? Or heck. Cat8 lol

[meager ginkgo]

If the ISP gives you an ONT with no need for anything else, I’d honestly say probably not

[topaz patrol]

Yes. Just run cat6a to their equipment, 1000x easier

[meager ginkgo]

for me it was worth it, because AT&T requires you to use their gateway with an integrated ONT and I hated having a big brick sitting in my network rack wasting power

[signal jay]

Yeah they aren’t charging me for the new ONT

Idk what they’re installing, but it’s new hardware

[meager ginkgo]

In that case, i'd stick with the ISP's ONT then

[signal jay]

So then cat6e -> sfp+~rj45 adapter?

[meager ginkgo]

cat6 is also fine. CAT6e isn't a real thing 😛

[signal jay]

Or maybe it’d be more cost effective just to get a 2.5gig nic and use it until I actually get 10gig

[meager ginkgo]

10 gig SFP+ ethernet adapters shouldn't be terribly expensive

i'd just get a 10 gig one, lots of equipment doesn't natively support 2.5gbps sfp

[signal jay]

Currently everything I have ran is cat5e, so I’m rerunning it all anyway

Cat8 when

[meager ginkgo]

never

[signal jay]

Brb dropping $700 on a 250ft spool

[meager ginkgo]

max CAT is CAT6a 😛 (that I would run)

after that run singlemode fiber

[signal jay]

It’s the r630 10gig nic, so any fancy sfp+ I need?

[meager ginkgo]

Just make sure it works with whatever hardware brand you're using

[signal jay]

Hmm

[meager ginkgo]

SM Fiber can easily do 100gbps in most cases, likely even more.

CAT6/6A up to 10 gig, anything after SM Fiber 🙂

[topaz patrol]

400gig gear is common now :)

[meager ginkgo]

The capacity of SM is crazy

I feel bad for all the people who installed multimode now

[signal jay]

Is singlemide fiber that crazy to run for LAN?

Ubiquiti DM pro to my 3 servers

[meager ginkgo]

As of right now, i'd say kinda.

[topaz patrol]

You don't need it lol. It's just a pita

[meager ginkgo]

But it's mainly for futureproofing

Think 10+ years from now when Fiber Internet is way more widespread

[signal jay]

https://www.fs.com/products/66616.html?country=US&currency=USD&languages=English&paid=google_shopping&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17929588539&gbraid=0AAAAAoz-wfSzSoYfHPTJ2GEFbyRSc9lcj
this what I’m after?

Or, essentially at least

[meager ginkgo]

Should be fine, just triple check it can

1. Support 2.5gig link speed (if needed)
2. Works fine with your hardware

[signal jay]

oh hm

[meager ginkgo]

(Seems like that one does support 2.5gigabit auto negotiation)

[signal jay]

why do they not all support 1-10

[meager ginkgo]

2.5gigabit is a newer standard, some older hardware doesn't support it

[topaz patrol]

Because 2.5GbE is a new and arguably stupid standard

[signal jay]

Can I be a zuck sinner and buy from amazon lolll

$30 instead of $80 😢

https://a.co/d/0WyrHek

Also can do 2.5

[meager ginkgo]

ethernet and SFP sticks (and some other gear) has link speeds the connection can link at:

Common link speeds are 100Mbps, 1000Mbps, 2500Mbps, and 10,000Mbps

2500mbps is a newer link speed standard

[meager ginkgo]

It's amazon, i'd try it and just return if it doesn't work 🤣

[signal jay]

Bro’s got bigger balls than me

[meager ginkgo]

That should be fine from a quick glance though

[signal jay]

It says dell as the option selected

I’m tempted to get more than one. Server has 2, then I can use it as the router and move my existing one elsewhere

[signal jay]

What’s the difference between cat5-cat6(e?)

Everything is cat 5e currently. Is it worth rerunning 8 or so runs? (One hour tops for the runs, then just time keystones)

[meager ginkgo]

CAT5 (non E) only technically supports speeds up to 100mbps officially. CAT5e is gigabit, CAT6 10 gig up to a certain distance, and CAT6A is 10 gig up to a longer distance

Now, you can get more speed out of lower spec cables (some report 2.5gig works on 5e etc) but it depends on the quality/length of the cable

[signal jay]

Old spool I pulled out of a contractors dumpster. Was throwing away 600+ft so… questionable at best

[meager ginkgo]

the 5e?

[signal jay]

ye

The existing

[meager ginkgo]

is it in wall cabling?

like made for in wall

[signal jay]

I ran it all originally, barely any actually in a wall or cavity that requires any difficult fishing. I have fiberglass push and pull rods so not concerned really

One is tricky but it’s running a 1gig router, so it’s staying regardless

most of what I would rerun is patch panel and or from the ONT

[meager ginkgo]

The cable jacket (outer layer) should say how many mHz the cable supports, if it's under say 250 - it may not be able to do above gigabit

[signal jay]

oh, sorry I misread entirely uh

not sure exactly

Let me check

[meager ginkgo]

either way, probably a good idea to replace it just so you can futureproof a bit. Since you already have fiber optic internet...

[signal jay]

Fun fact, if you pay your electric company to remove the coax wire the ISP already had ran to your house(and the entire pole it was on), they’ll willingly run you a new fiber in your fancy underground conduit to ‘future proof’ me

Totally didn’t do that to my isp tho, no way

350mhz

[meager ginkgo]

We got lucky that the builder installed a conduit to the outside of our house for the ISP to bring our fiber in

[meager ginkgo]

Might not hurt to try to run 2.5gig on it, if it's not stable just replace it with CAT6 (or do it anyways lol)

[signal jay]

I would have ran it originally but our local supplier told us the minimum role size they sell is 5,000ft

regret not ordering online but hey. You win some you lose some

[thorny osprey]

my cpu dies with qoa ;-;

[pastel monolith]

I don't have qos enabled and speeds and latency tests look fine, if want to prioritize some traffic then can use qos but isn't necessary for good speeds or latency

Couple of random speed tests, I'm on at&t fiber, the one that has three ping timings does one before download/upload bandwidth tests and one during download one during upload

[opal pagoda]

You can mux 64 wavelengths with a fs.com box with each channel having a 25g connection
(1.6Tbps)

[pastel monolith]

Here I just shut off the at&t modem/routers WiFi and am passing through to deco 5000/WiFi 7 mesh routers, for the WiFi link speed on phone shows about 1900Mbps up or down max, but limited to 1Gbps/1000Mbps for ISP/internet connections.

There's an older trendnet (like $10-15) 1Gbps switch used for splitting the wired connection for a few machines then handful of TV's and tablets/phones that are on the network, but moderate usage all around. Most I use the bandwidth for is streaming content and downloading games, occasionally play online but usually not in competitive games where any of this kind of timing would matter.

[fallow aurora]

Hi, randomly my windows install like disconnects from the internet so I cant search or anything but my ethernet cable is plugged in but I saw this program reviewed quite well "NetAdapterRepair" and when the connection issues happen sometimes I click "return networking services to default settings" and sometimes that solves the issue until randomly it starts again but other times I click "advanced repair" reboot and it works. I'm confused please help.

[ebon wasp]

Sounds like your networkcard is crashing

[fallow aurora]

its plugged into the motherboard

[ebon wasp]

Then your network card is build into the motherboard

it still can crash

Try to get the latest driver from the motherboard manufacturer

[fallow aurora]

ill try reinstall it

thank you

[lone crane]

yeah just resolder it

[fallow aurora]

🤣🤣

[high needle]

Server related, can someone help point me in the right direction to how ive royally fucked my networking in a vm migrating from proxmox -> esxi
Initially VirtIO adapter in proxmox was disabled (esxi used sr-iov, ive shut down the vm in esxi and re-used the mac addreess for VirtIO adapter as I have DHCP reservations)
Re-enabled it, networking now works but the VM will not ping IPs seemingly at random (some IPs ping fine others dont and I cant curl their webui either?)

Said IPs when pinged show "Destination Host Unreachable", curl shows "No route to host", but ping fine both in another linux vm on the same proxmox server and in the proxmox shell
Disabled UFW no difference, compared ip routes with a near identical linux vm still on esxi that can ping that ip both are identical, firewall is disabled on the proxmox adapters

Completely lost and would appreciate any and all guidance 🙃

HAOS I just had to bring the adapter back up and its fine, this doesnt seem to quite be the case?

[high needle]

Okay nevermind the answer was to reboot esxi after the migration?

I dont get it either but hey its fixed now

[peak cloak]

why esxi?

[signal jay]

Makes sense to me, pretty much always have to reboot

@meager ginkgo what’s the easiest way to add a external SAS/Sata backplane or hotswappable to a server? I wondered about just buying a old server SAS backplane from a different server and building the needed box to hold it all… but I’m unsure

Figured I’d do a hba330(Or hba310) or similar as my actual raidcard

but idk about the other hardware

Maybe wrong chat but hey this is networking if I use ethernet ;)

[meager ginkgo]

Honestly Ive never messed with SAS, so not really sure.. sorry

[amber urchin]

Disk shelf and external SAS card?

[signal jay]

Maybe yeah

[cunning violet]

Any good spoilers from uwc

[compact flint]

Is it worth do buy this thing?

But for 27$

[lone crane]

looks great on paper but with stuff like this the software can be a issue

i have not been able to really check it but possible it might not have the modern supported TLS version

[fallow cloak]

I wouldn't bother, probably quite loud, no available fw

And there are other options for that price

Look at a CRS328-24P-4S+RM which is cheaper MSRP, has PoE and 10GbE

https://mikrotik.com/product/crs328_24p_4s_rm

[fallow cloak]

I just built a DAS that hangs off my NAS and it supports SAS, though just from breaking out. Do you require a backplane?

[signal jay]

Not necessarily, just extra drives

Ideally expandable to until I run out of pcie lanes lol

I’m open to anything as long as I get good bandwidth and connectivity

[fallow cloak]

Currently writing my blog post about how I expanded my NAS by building a DAS, but baiscally it's this:

You can get a whooooooole lotta drives if you use expanders, which unless you're doing nvme you should be.

In practice that looks like this, top is my NAS and bottom is the same case but just without any actual hardware, just the expander and disks

I only have 2 extra disks in the DAS right now out of a potetial 16 and I'm at about 120TB RAW

[signal jay]

Absolutely gorgeous. You’re a madlad

120TB of RAM?

[fallow cloak]

Storage lol, I wish I had that much personally.

[signal jay]

I find it mildly comical you use the AMD stock cooler btw

[fallow cloak]

Have over 1PB of RAM at work over a few clusters though

[fallow cloak]

https://blog.muffn.io/posts/part-1-100tb-mini-nas/

I don't usually I just didn't care and was being cheap lol

[signal jay]

I have two 8bay servers with small ish drives currently, setup mostly for miscellaneous stuff. But I am wanting to expand to a offsite backup for friends and family (Several have asked since I have 90% of the infrastructure already) . So I will be expanding to more soon ™️

I sincerely appreciate all the details and info

i will readup

[fallow cloak]

Just build something IMO. If it's for backups and stuff go ZFS for sure.

Also have another NAS I built for that site for backups and shit, using TrueNAS, reccommend the Jonsbo cases

[signal jay]

You mean a NAS?

[fallow cloak]

Build a NAS, yeah

[signal jay]

The two servers already have ample horsepower to handle the traffic/run as essentially a NAS- what would the benefit be of adding another system?

R710 with 76GB of RAM as media server, r630 with nearly halfa terrabyte or RAM with duel e5-2679av4’. I could see being limited in PCIE, but otherwise my throughput should be plenty with a DAS, unless Imm mistaken?

[fallow cloak]

Okay yeah that should be plenty, I'd hang it off the r630 personally. Do you have the 630 set up as a hypervisor?

I'd personally depreciate the 710 now though, those CPUs are getting really old and the performance:watt is awful

[green meadow]

Wdyt about my first server rack?🥲

[hidden obsidian]

Do a before and after with solid cable management. It'll look glorious

[green meadow]

I'm well aware, the patch panels, cat6 spool and the dohikey for ending the RJ45 conventions are in shipping

[fallow cloak]

Is that G6/7 sitting ontop of the switch?

Or a shelf?

[green meadow]

Yeah itsa a G6, and at the bottom too

[fallow cloak]

yeah didn't even clock that. Been a while since I had a proper rack, had to majorly downsize a few years go

[green meadow]

Zamn

[fallow cloak]

This was it at one point tho

[green meadow]

Are those G8s in the middle?

[fallow cloak]

aye

[green meadow]

Damm nice

But yeah the top will will be running my router, website, DB, and WHCMS
And the bottom one will be a NAS for all the computer servers

[fallow cloak]

Noice, I still have my 60 bay lmao. Been trying to sell it for ages

[green meadow]

Sadly I'm from Poland 🥲

[fallow cloak]

Closer than most :P. Was much easier to buy/sell stuff like this before Brexit

[green meadow]

Yeah

[high needle]

Im moving away from esxi :P

Homelab so proxmox is perfectly fit for purpose

And infact seems much less buggy than my esxi install ironically

But originally, its all I really knew existed when I started homelab stuff

[lone crane]

anybody got a clue how i can get truenas to do spindown on a pool with raidz

[peak cloak]

ah nice

I'm all proxmox here

[topaz patrol]

WHMCS :(

[green meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-brainlet-microwave-smoke-dumb-gif-3026155548321433372

Sor-r. . . y

[lone crane]

MOAR aliexpress 10gig shit

[sly compass]

Ugh finally after a couple of months i solved my dns issues.

If you guys run https://dnscheck.tools/

What is your average ping time? I had like really high. Now im down to 20-25ms. All grean dnssec and using doh even devices that are hardcoded to use google or some other dns will get pulled doh

[thorny osprey]

how can I reduce latency and lag spikes? I have a tp link ax23 and I'm connected by ethernet
my friend with an ax15 gets less ping than me somehow

[stuck grove]

get a better isp

and/or move to a new house

[stable jackal]

hard to determine without knowing more details about whats causing it

[thorny osprey]

Same isp as my frend

[thorny osprey]

how the hell is that gonna help?

[stuck grove]

Physical distance and network topology of how the isp gets internet to your home

[stable jackal]

could be routing issues or physically the cables are crap and you're getting loss

[stuck grove]

is it just your pc, cable, then router?

no switches or anything in between?

[thorny osprey]

ya

[thorny osprey]

My friend and I in the same block

[stuck grove]

Move your pc to your router, and try a different cable

i assume there’s some sort of wall run you’re using?

in-wall ethernet i mean

[thorny osprey]

its ethenret vro
gigabit cable
and im in the same room as the router
actually I could touch my router without a step

[stuck grove]

Only one router in the home?

[thorny osprey]

yup

[stuck grove]

try a different cable

[thorny osprey]

does cable rlly matter in latency?

[stable jackal]

it could

[stuck grove]

it can

[thorny osprey]

dang ok

[stuck grove]

any half decent cable should have little impact on latency, but not always the easiest to tell if you have a good cable

[stable jackal]

if ur getting random spiked might be your windows install

might be something running in the back or something messed up causing it

like bad/old network drivers?

[thorny osprey]

how do I check?

[stuck grove]

it’s basically a matter of “keep updating potential problems till it goes away”

[thorny osprey]

Ik my windows a lil wack since snipping tool takes some seconds to load and idk y but idk about my network

[stuck grove]

as far as windows install or drivers go

[thorny osprey]

should i turn dis on lol?

[thorny osprey]

doesnt sound that great

[stable jackal]

if you want a quick way to see if its ur install/machine or your network you could try doing a live boot of linux and seeing if you see the same problems

if you can see it happening on speedtests or something

[thorny osprey]

da cable im using rn is cat 5e utp
and i dont have any extra cables rn of the same or higher grade so yall got any other alternatives ;-;

[thorny osprey]

Could I dual boot

[stable jackal]

you dont need to install linux, no need to dual boot. You can boot into a live media, temporary instance of linux without having to install it to your drive

[peak cloak]

coax? fiber?

[thorny osprey]

Fiber

[peak cloak]

what type of lag spikes are we talking about?

you have it profiled?

[thorny osprey]

like today I recorded like 300 ms ping to 1.7K or 700 or even my game jst stopped responding but then started to with 12K ms ping then back to 300 then back to 2K then back 300 and then I stopped recording because I can't bother to

[stable jackal]

seems like to me its not a physical issue probably somethign going on with your windows install

[thorny osprey]

holy shit wtf my pc can't even take over 1G

[lone crane]

im doing lots of 10gig

[ionic grail]

How can over-provisioning happen on a 1 Gb plan using a 1 Gb NIC?
(i.e. 1.2Gbps down on a speed test)

[peak cloak]

what speed test are you using?

[ionic grail]

fast.com

[clear igloo]

they do weird caching on the client side where it can do that

[peak cloak]

Yeah that would make sense then

Try a different one

[daring cloud]

just saw this on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Tailscale/comments/1ksy3xy/someone_just_randomly_joined_my_tailnet/

looks like tailscale just guesses if you're on a company domain or not rather than requiring DNS verification, and just auto-joins users of any free mail providers they're not aware of to the same VPN network

[ionic grail]

speedtest.net by Ookla works properly (not like fast.com)

Thanks!

[marble nova]

use mtr to make sure that you and your friend have the same first hop and first hop ping times. Even though you're physically close, you could be very different topologically.

[thorny osprey]

mtr?

[marble nova]

traceroute. mtr does it on a repeating basis.

[thorny osprey]

wat is mtr

[marble nova]

mtr is like the traceroute command --- but far more useful information.

mtr -t somewhere.com
(-t forces it to stay in the terminal)

[twin pier]

I'm curious what exactly this mean

Is it perhaps like toggling promiscuous mode

I assume you'd always want that setting in the image toggled on

[twin pier]

It can't. Fast.com is known to be very inaccurate

most you should be able to get is like 950 megabits per second of actual data throughput

[peak cloak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_offload_engine

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/netcx/introduction-to-hardware-offloads

[sullen coral]

Can someone help me I am looking to buy a network switch and I have like 6 criteria and I am wondering if someone can help me find something that matches it.

1. Cisco brand it's what I am familiar with and like.
2. 10" rack mount( most flexible but still I want a mini rack instead of my full size one
3. managed
   4)16-24ish port
4. 2 gigabit ports at least

6. avaliable used and not for thousands of dollars

I keep finding stuff with some combination but like I would think there would be something that checks all the boxes somewhere. My intellenet switch died and I wanna downsize a bit. Fillsize racks stuck in a small room

[ionic grail]

Thanks! I'll just stick to Ookla's speed test

[clear igloo]

Aside the C1300 series which which is still going to be a few hundred bucks, not really happening for a half width switch
C1300-16P-4X is 20 ports though but you're not getting rack mount stuff so be ready to print your own

Actually the C1300-16P-2G comes in at 18 ports and is about $300

[lean palm]

Literally

There is no such thing as a 10” rack switch from cisco that has 24 ports

Much less for less than a kidney

[ornate jungle]

EOL - https://www.ebay.ca/itm/276567720732
EOL - https://www.ebay.ca/itm/305905921779
Not EOL (yet) - https://www.ebay.ca/itm/187118286081

[sullen coral]

Thanks the 2nd one is exactly what I want basically eol is fine a lot of my stuff is

[sullen coral]

I've seen them from other companies so I was hopeful

[ornate jungle]

"Other companies" sure, but you're asking Cisco to cater to a market they'd make no money from so... 😛

Cisco is in the business of charging businesses way too much for the privilege of using standardized Cisco management software / systems. If this is you or your company's thing, great - go ham; spend the money, and "enjoy" Cisco's iOS. Otherwise, I usually recommend Ubiquiti gear for homelab / enthusiast setups.

[lean palm]

ubiquiti is making a compact 16 port for homes so why isnt cisco /s

[sullen coral]

Yeah it's pricy but I just like their software I have experience in with it from college and I like it a lot more than any other I've used

[lone crane]

@topaz patrol

[topaz patrol]

UBNT? Or Omada

[lone crane]

the stuff i own

sooo UBNT

[topaz patrol]

Oh

Yeah most UBNT stuff has had BGP for ages

[lone crane]

i swear you said something about not liking their stuff due to BGP

well also a lot of other reasons too

[topaz patrol]

No I wish Omada had BGP

#tech-chat-1 message

[lone crane]

yay i got something omada shit does not have

[topaz patrol]

But can you cluster your Unifi controller? That's what I thought :p

[lone crane]

well there was something new added now where you can do something like that i think it was

Shadow Mode

sooo yes i kinda can

[topaz patrol]

No, that's for the gateway, not the actual controller

Also last I checked it wasn't actual HA and more just failover

[lone crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrPv-Kk17s

[topaz patrol]

That is not for the controller though

[lone crane]

aint the gateway the controller?

[topaz patrol]

Only really for one site

[lone crane]

i have no clue what you mean by controller

well if its not the gateway

[topaz patrol]

This or the software controller

The controller built into the dream machines etc is fine for just one or two sites but not really for 10s or 100s of sites

[lone crane]

soo it gets offloaded to the cloud?

[fallow cloak]

Just host the controller yourself?

Super easy, I have one controller for 5 sites.

[topaz patrol]

No high availability :(

[fallow cloak]

Ah sorry I missed that, why do you need HA out of interest?

[topaz patrol]

We manage almost 100 sites in Omada, and a controller going down wouldn't be fun

[fallow cloak]

The controller is just the management plane though, you can very easily bring that back with a backup

The network itself will be fine

Run it in docker, copy the volume mount every hour or something

[topaz patrol]

But do you want to?

Proper roaming and mesh also kinda doesn't work when the controller is offline

[fallow cloak]

Really? Roaming should be using 802.11r and meshing does work when the controller is down

One of my sites has 5 meshed APs and they are just fine once established, that site is on starlink and loses controller access all the time

[topaz patrol]

Also makes managing multiple controllers easy, since it's just the one dashboard, not sure if UBNT is like that

[topaz patrol]

Fast roaming is borked on omada without a controller

Mesh works, but it won't "self heal" (I think)

[fallow cloak]

I can't speak for TP stuff but the UniFi controller is just for management, it's not orchestrating anything.

[fallow cloak]

I don't think this is the case but I'll take your word on it. I am fairly certain the APs manage that themselves.

[fallow cloak]

Anyway. if you need HA controllers I would go with something more enterprise

[fallow cloak]

I'm talking about UniFi stuff, I have absolutely 0 experience with Omada

[topaz patrol]

If UBNT wants to call themselves enterprise they should have HA :p

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallow cloak]

I mean, I wouldn't call them enterprise. If I brought up using unifi stuff at work they would almsot certainly laugh at me.

I agree though, alas.

Look at Ruckus stuff, use it heavily at work and it's p. good

[topaz patrol]

It makes me laugh

I'm a good hater :)

[topaz patrol]

Too far down the rabbit hole! Plus it's cheap. Their GPON stuff is really nice

[ornate jungle]

To be fair, even the Cisco Meraki ecosystem isn't what I would call enterprise. It's good, but the Cloud Management site is riddled with JavaScript bugs and inconsistent UI blunders that make me want to pull my hair out. And it's slow AF.

IMO, Enterprise is just a marketing term to justify charging outrageous prices for something anyway. Cisco's saving grace is how quickly and effectively their TAC teams have handled our support tickets - that's worth it alone for us.

[clear igloo]

Are you on the new UI or legacy still?
The new one is a bit snappier but the redirects from legacy to new and other quirks still remain

[ornate jungle]

"Yes." Some screens automatically give us the newer UI. Some flash the new UI for a second before fully reloading the page a second time with the old UI. Some pages don't have a new UI at all. And some features we use are either missing from or more labourious to access in the new UI.

[clear igloo]

Yup, that's about right 😄

I do know a lot of resources are going into uplifting everything towards the end of the year as IOS-XE based Meraki mode starts rolling out on more platforms

So there is still plenty of time for things to get worse 😄

[random siren]

enterprise is mostly just quality and amount of support you are paying more for. if thats not the case for smth its not worth paying for in almost all cases

[opal pagoda]

i dont need no UI
just give me a good cli that i can ssh into and i will be happy

[opal pagoda]

real definition is standardisation and documentation

[random siren]

would be nice but no. most enterprise software ive interacted with is absolutely not that

open source projects have the by far best docs by far in my experience

[native kettle]

Having an interesting issue. Loosing internet connection but can still access local device online yet the internet is still accessible on everything else.

[pastel monolith]

Could be DNS

[wide shadow]

Is this good enough for TrueNAS?
Want to make it be able to:

1. Do backup for 8 - 12 devices
2. Stream 4x 2K video
3. Be used as cloud storage
   While i want max capacity for lowest possible price.
   So far i made this:
   https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BWKJZc

(Please ping when replying or i might not notice replies.)

I will be sincing replies across servers too. So that everyone replying will be up to date with others suggestions.

[wide shadow]

I accidentally used united states instead of Slovakia...
Soo... apparently i need new list...
...well that's ton of effort down the drain...

[stuck grove]

get two sticks of ram

[wide shadow]

I don't care if it's "top of the line" or if it's "plain garbage"
All i need is so it gets the job done for minimum price.

[stuck grove]

get two sticks of ram

you will see a noticeable improvement with dual channel vs single channel

[wide shadow]

Would but two issues:

1. I selected wrong country so i need to remake whole list
2. That 1x 16GB was best €/GB

[topaz patrol]

Why are you buying such old parts new

[stuck grove]

also that, get used

[wide shadow]

I know... already have experience with that type of boost

[topaz patrol]

No point buying crap that's been sitting on a shelf for 7 years

[stuck grove]

other than hdds, i’d buy those new or recertified

psu and hdds new, ssd new if you really feel like it, the rest get it used

[wide shadow]

#networking message

[stuck grove]

how is that relevant or a response at all?

[wide shadow]

Plus old can be found used for shitty low prices

[stuck grove]

they’re saying get those old components, but buy them used, not brand new

[topaz patrol]

You can get much less crap stuff for the same price if you get used

[wide shadow]

Also... shittalking won't help... either provide useful information or just don't reply. So we don't spam this with stuff that is 1. known by many 2. doesn't address the issue directly.

[topaz patrol]

I'm not shittalking...

[stuck grove]

we’re giving you actually helpful advice mate…

[wide shadow]

I know that new can last longer, has better performance, can have the warranty, etc. But that's not main concern. So no... it's not as useful as you might think.

[topaz patrol]

I'm not telling you to buy new. I am telling you to buy newer used gear

[pastel monolith]

1/3 depends on usage really but if incremental backups only first ones should be large/take a while, 2 is only one where vid encoding/decoding speeds can limit things or bandwidth

[topaz patrol]

Instead of older "new" gear

[wide shadow]

I would rather use 10y.o. parts than off the shelf as long as it's good enough and gets the job done.

[pastel monolith]

also if just give what target budget is might be easier to get suggestions on alternative setups

[stuck grove]

are you reading the messages we’re sending? you sent a list of all brand new components, and we told you to instead buy used, but your messages imply that we’re saying the exact opposite when we aren’t

[topaz patrol]

[wide shadow]

Well... backups would be ideally when noone would be using it soo maybe between 2am and 4am an probably in way git does sinc stuff... but unsure yet

[pastel monolith]

rysnc is a good way to go for incremental backups, but yeah does seem like ya'll might just be talking past one another a bit too 🙂

[wide shadow]

I barely woke up so might misread... my bad...

[twin pier]

If you want new instead of used then that's fine too but it doesn't connect to wanting the minimal price without limits

[wide shadow]

Yep... i see it now...

[wide shadow]

I misread this and my sleepy brain based all context off that... i missed the "new" at the end...

[stuck grove]

grab a second stick of ram, swap to an nvme m.2 instead of sata, and i’d say it looks pretty good

[topaz patrol]

All good mate :)

[wide shadow]

I still need to figure out prices for eastern Europe

Also was thinking about adding this:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EuwSx3Y