networking

[random cobalt]

e.g. yourthing.us.to looks way less stupid than yourthing.duckdns.org

[elder flume]

Just recived 3 dell xxv710-da2 for home network, kinda new to this But tempature whise should i put a fan on or do they just throttle when they get too hot? Sadly the one in my personal rig sits right up against my GPU so it might get abit hotter than the 55c it says on the data sheet is that a problem?

[opal pagoda]

strap a fan on them, they were designed with server airflow in mind

[elder flume]

alrighty ill see if i can find any that fits :p

[silent flax]

shielded makes sense, if you are running your ethernet cables literally in the same cable duct as your power cables, or very near and parallel to them. Otherwise yeah, waste of time for home use.

or you know, just buy a domain for few dollars a year, set the DNS to cloudflare and then use the dynamic DNS client to update DNS at them. [e-mail] (or [e-mail]) looks even cooler. But that's me, i mean most domains are in the $10/year price range.

[silent flax]

yeah, just blast some air towards them, If a single fan blasting air in general direction of a 17W X540-T2 is enough, your X710 will be fine with their 5W 🙂 https://www.servethehome.com/qsfp-v-sfp-v-10gbase-t-testing-power-consumption-differences/

i mean there is a high chance it will not require active cooling unless you plug in some 10+gbps RJ45 DAC in those SFP ports, but if you can point a fan in the direction of card, it won't hurt

[elder flume]

Will be running a SFP28 3m cable so iguess that makes the power draw go up?

[silent flax]

it won't reach X540-T2 tho 😄

i mean max power consumption listed is 14.1W for X710 as far as i can see

so the worst case scenario is still few watts better than normal X540-T2 operation

[opal pagoda]

i bought 5 year of .eu domain for 13 euro

[elder flume]

Cool cool! Cant wait to get it up and running waiting on components for the server now

[silent flax]

meanwhile i was thinking about downsizing, but it is not really economically viable to replace my old parts with something newer with lower power usage due resale value of my old parts

i mean sure, i could find buyers internationally for somewhat reasonable value, but i would have to get lucky

like 2950x sells from anything like $300-$350 on it's own (but also often bellow $300), and boards do not command much of a premium. And for $500, i can't really buy that much, plus peak power usage isn't that much better either with new Intel CPUs, and Ryzen would be expensive

so i guess i keep my 2950x server with 10Gbe and wait for my main system upgrade for server replacement (maybe)

[minor finch]

did you build this rack ?

[obtuse cypress]

Nothing quite like a red ground wire 😛

[prisma edge]

Well I ended up doing so being they were shielded... but I could've easily separated them

[prisma edge]

It was actually my father. He kinda just surprised me with a diy rack one night and I loved it

[minor finch]

oh cool, thats really neat

[prisma edge]

Yeah...

I grabbed an old cable during Robotics from the "cable box", a bin filled with messy and short cables that will most likely never get used. I was fortunate enough to find a single cable that had a nice gauge and length.

[obtuse cypress]

Haha yeah - its a little... anxiety inducing... for bonding you don't need much.... 18 gauge is more than enough

[prisma edge]

Thanks!

[silent flax]

what is anxiety inducing for me is the fact that it is not terminated into actual plug

[obtuse cypress]

It's probably tied to the box

[prisma edge]

Yeah ofc, I was just worried about resistance from being a longer cable.

And there's only like three gauges we ever use. 22 wasn't gonna cut it.

[obtuse cypress]

Its just for noise suppression, no ampacity will be going thru it

[silent flax]

i just meant it is not tied into an actual plug, but just "tied" to something on plug side

[prisma edge]

Okay, I'm not familiar with too many terms so pardon me for asking. What's that mean?

[obtuse cypress]

well yeah that's not atypical, its not part of a power circuit

[obtuse cypress]

What is the wire connected to?

[prisma edge]

Ah

[silent flax]

if an electric company would see that, they would disconnect you on spot here 🙂

[prisma edge]

It is currently connected to the faceplate screw

[obtuse cypress]

Yep, totally acceptable

[silent flax]

like here you literally have a grounding plug you put your grounding cable into, which you can then plug into the normal socket

[obtuse cypress]

Believe it or not, unlikely. Dunno where they are, but many times bonding wires are borrowed from plumbing

[prisma edge]

Made sure to test the outlet, too. Apparently it wasn't properly grounded for who knows how long, but my dad was able to fix that up

[obtuse cypress]

Yeah that may be a EU thing, we don't ahve those. In the US grounding to the box (via faceplate) is acceptable.

[silent flax]

that is impossible due most piping being plastic these days and most likely illegal here

[obtuse cypress]

Obviously you cannot ground to plastic

Grounding to copper pipe that is bonded is 100% within NEC code

[prisma edge]

Okay, that's an interesting fact I had not known beforehand.

Neat.

[obtuse cypress]

I would personally rather see that wire come off of a screw/pigtail inside the box itself (assuming metal box), but so long as its grounded its grounded. You're also not grounding that device, you're bonding it for shield. Much different purpose.

Also @prisma edge is there another side of that patch panel? Only bond one side to shield

[silent flax]

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Universal-Connection-Control-Unbreakable/dp/B07Q1DJVNT something like this (or a full plug version) would make me feel much safer than a random wire which could slip off/contact live wiring

[obtuse cypress]

There's nothing preventing that from slipping out either, those are not UL listed

[prisma edge]

Yeahhh I was considering that but it was just easier to crimp the cable and secure it in there with the screw.

And sorry for not being familiar with electrical terms, I'm still learning and the stuff's complex.

[obtuse cypress]

Banana jacks are not permitted in a US electrical system, they are not UL listed and just as dangerous if not more so as a simply trip on that will yank it out

[prisma edge]

Wdym another side?

[obtuse cypress]

Did you make sure to not ground the other end of the cable(s)?

[obtuse cypress]

Wherever those white cables go, that side should be floating

[silent flax]

anyway, smart home parts are such a minefield, i hate how bad it is

(and i am only looking at stuff like smart plugs and thermal sensors for now LOL)

[prisma edge]

I made sure not to

[obtuse cypress]

OK cool - if you shield both sides of a cable you A) create a ground loop B) are probably grounding from two different grounds/circuits. They surely go back to the same service panel, but it can be fucky with ground sourcing from one circuit and the other, on each end

[prisma edge]

Ohh. They're routed through some drilled holes and stuffed between the attic floor and the insulation beneath.

[prisma edge]

Yeahh I read about avoiding that

[obtuse cypress]

Truth is the shielding is completely unnecessary but it sounds like you know this

[prisma edge]

Oh yeah, I regret choosing shielding 🙂

But it's fine.

I only know some of this stuff after hours of reading articles, tutorials, and headaches

Electricity is so complex, man

My internship is requiring me to learn it for chip design and it confuses me so much at times.

[obtuse cypress]

Yeah it really only becomes necessary in especially noisy environments and quite frankly usually when trying to run 10 gbps over ethernet for longer runs. 1 Gbps and 2.5 Gbps is fine over standard CAT6.

[obtuse cypress]

Well unfortunately this work won't make it much clearer because its AC lol... DC is a whole 'nother thing

[prisma edge]

Yeah, as someone told me before the project, unless I have a nuclear reactor in my basement, just go unshielded. My anxiety got the best of me and I went for shielded anyways.

[prisma edge]

[obtuse cypress]

Haha yeah - microwaves, etc. But truthfully yeah its more like RF and EMI type shit. I see it in datacenter a lot - 3 phase power environments with tons and tons of transforming and high current draw, etc. Its why I will never run 10GbaseT in a datacenter environment.

[opal pagoda]

dont let IEEE know but some ethernet runs that we have are over 100m and they work fine

its ran with cat7 s/ftp

[prisma edge]

Yup

[prisma edge]

Okay that's pretty hilarious

[obtuse cypress]

100M is 1 gbbps Cat6/A UTP territory

CAT6/A and CAT7 have the same length limits

[opal pagoda]

its just some ap-s that are like that

so poe+ is also ran trough the cable

[opal pagoda]

i belive they still passed certification so no worries

[obtuse cypress]

Word - over 100M I just run fiber

fiber with media converter is cheaper than running cable a second time

[opal pagoda]

they experimented with ap-s that just took in sfp module but found its not needed

[obtuse cypress]

Yeah then they also need power

[silent flax]

same with how 10gbps is Cat6 by spec... but people run it just fine on Cat5e. Sure, shorter runs, but you can do it 😄

but with Cat5e it is mostly down how was the cable made, some might not work, others might be up to Cat6 spec

[opal pagoda]

cca cables are the bane of everybodys existance

[silent flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuvVtStinyQ like this is even with those horrible couplers

[opal pagoda]

you have 2 kinds of people.
the pedantic ones that worry about how much they untwist the pairs before terminating
and the ones that run cat5e at 10g

[silent flax]

i just wish RJ45 10gbe switches weren't that expensive, but sadly i suspect metalic wiring is dead and sooner or later i will have to replace the wiring in my walls, if i want more than 2.5gbps

as 2.5gbps switches might slowly reach reasonable pricing (<50 euros for 8-port)

[opal pagoda]

wdym dead?
are you switching to fiber?

[silent flax]

nothing above 10gbps uses metalic cables anymore, it is all optical. While yes, Cat8 can do 40bps ethernet, there is no actual networking equipment for that

[opal pagoda]

for backhoul fiber is great but i dont see endpoints using it anytime soon

[silent flax]

well for homes, 2.5gbps will take another 3-5 years for gear to become norm (my cable modem came with a whole ONE 2.5gbe port, and three gigabit ones). Switches might drop to 40-50 euros for 8-port units by that time, and devices might be also be with 2.5gbe adapters on motherboards

5gbe and 10gbe is in very far future, which also means the price decreases are going to be very slow, if any. And right now something like 8-port RJ45 10gbe switch is absurdly expensive

(i think they are like 300-400 euros?)

so ironically one can buy an all SFP+ 8-port 10gbe switch from ali for like 100-120 euros, add 8 RJ45 adapters for 35 euros a piece and have same price or cheaper than all RJ45 switch

[opal pagoda]

lmao that is the price for old-er nexus with 48 sfp+ and 6 qsfp ports

[silent flax]

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-SX1008-Multi-Gig-Protection-Auto-Negotiation/dp/B0916BNNML

$400

[thorny osprey]

What do I need to establish a cloud storage service business? (At home. Do not ask why)

[silent flax]

cloud & at-home doesn't compute

point of cloud is that you have multiple failover locations

[opal pagoda]

https://www.servethehome.com/insane-48-port-2-5gbe-2x-25gbe-2x-10gbe-managed-chinese-e-sports-cafe-and-hotel-switch-microchip-micron-sandisk/

[silent flax]

but if you just mean hosting at home, then computers and internet with good upload with ISP who won't kick you out

[thorny osprey]

Yes I mean hosting at home

Okay I got the computer with debian (with casaos) but I have no idea what to do next

[opal pagoda]

2x locations with connections to iex minimum
practise 3 2 1 backup strategy
have roboust access controll in place

[thorny osprey]

Surely I need to a website for interaction

[silent flax]

well usually you do business internet order from your ISP, ideally with symmetrical internet (or as much upload as you can get), and then computers with software

[silent flax]

wait, you have zero knowledge of server hardware & software, virtualization etc ?

[thorny osprey]

you are obsolutely correct

I don't know much about networking

[opal pagoda]

then just dont

[thorny osprey]

where do I start to learn

[opal pagoda]

networking? pass ccna or get a job in networking

[thorny osprey]

nvm

[opal pagoda]

it is easier to sell compute rather than storage

[thorny osprey]

Ion think my intel i5 3210M can do that

okay I can atleast try personal cloud storage
how do I setup HTTPS on debian i'm confused

[opal pagoda]

you need ssl certificate, it can be self signed (error abt self signed will be present) or you can get/buy ssl cert from certificate authority

[thorny osprey]

how do I self sign

[opal pagoda]

https://wiki.debian.org/Self-Signed_Certificate

[thorny osprey]

also can I connect to the nextcloud server from outside? like different router

[opal pagoda]

easiest would be connecting them with tailscale

[thorny osprey]

Cool

Soo
Personal cloud server done?

[thorny osprey]

tailscale has to be open in the device I want to connect from?

[opal pagoda]

yes

its 0 config doe

[opal pagoda]

sudo in front

[opal pagoda]

sudo

[opal pagoda]

just switch to root with su root, you are only running first line as sudo

[thorny osprey]

so?
su root mkdir -p /etc/ssl/localcerts openssl req -new -x509 -days 365 -noenc -out /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.pem -keyout /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache.key chmod 600 /etc/ssl/localcerts/apache*

[opal pagoda]

su root then enter
input password
then run all of the commands

[thorny osprey]

ok so I did all that

and i gave it my info

I now have a SSL certificate..?

[opal pagoda]

you really need to use a guide of some sorts and not ask infinite numbers of questions about simple things also this has evolved into something much different than the channel description above, please use #linux

[prisma edge]

I gotta love the ethernet spec

Unlike USB advertising "You can transfer up to 5 Gigabit!" while referring to raw data transfer, ethernet will provide extra capability to comfortably say "yeah, you'll achieve 1 gigabit with just about any cat5e cable up to 100m." It just opens up room for much faster speed if you have a shorter higher quality cable... it's pretty neat

[silent flax]

in case of ethernet cat cables it is down to "we say your cables must meet tests for this category". It doesn't mean better built cables do not meet specs of higher categories

[prisma edge]

yep

[silent flax]

HDMI is worst in this, as the cables usually od not have info about their spec written on them

btw LOL HDMI, anyone remembers the most useless part of HDMI spec ?

aka Ethernet over HDMI 😄

does anything ever supported that ?

but to be fair, manufacturers screw up even basic things like audio return channel and HDMI-CEC from HDMI spec. so expecting Ethernet over HDMI to every catch traction was a wishful thinking

(also it was only 100 megabit)

[prisma edge]

It's genuinely hilarious, 100megabit on specific few TVs that supported it

[opal pagoda]

HDbaseT is awesome doe
i have reciever and transmitter at work, 0 lag. works just as if display was connected directly

[prisma edge]

And yet it's still plastered on cables to this day

[silent flax]

not HDMI over ethernet, i talk about Ethernet over HDMI

aka 100 megabit Cat5 in HDMI cable

[opal pagoda]

yes i know, i am proposing move to hdbaset for everything

[rocky badge]

I don't like hdbaset anymore lol

I'd rather do HDMI over IP

WIth something like Crestron NVX or similar

[thorny osprey]

when I try to connect to nextcloud using tailscale's ip it shows untrusted domain

[rose flare]

I got a quick question, Ive set up my first proper NAS server using truenas, runs great, wondering if there is a nice easy was of accessing the smb remotely (WAN) offsite without to much hassle. Cheers

[peak cloak]

probobly tailscale vpn

if you want something more local, can setup your own wireguard or openvpn

[rose flare]

Ok cool ill look into it

[hearty crescent]

Dear All I am going to upgrade my router I need to equipped with 1gb ram and WiFi 6e

[meager ginkgo]

It really is useless lol. I had a few hdmi cables that had it and was always curious how to use it, turns out no one actually implemented it

[silent flax]

my favorite Ugreen HDMI cable package 🙂

(they did it on both sides)

[meager ginkgo]

lol, we had a big bulky hdmi running through the wall (in a conduit) up to our fireplace and it had hdmi over Ethernet

overpriced lmao

[silent flax]

uhm...

if you missed it

[meager ginkgo]

oh shit.. hahaa

I did miss that

[silent flax]

The physical layer of the Ethernet implementation uses a hybrid to simultaneously send and receive attenuated 100BASE-TX-type signals through a single twisted pair.
🤷‍♂️

it was Pin 14 & Pin 19, same pins used for Audio Return Channel

[meager ginkgo]

Interesting how it’s only one twisted pair

[silent flax]

well, it's a dead feature anyway, it is chopped

[silent flax]

https://research.nccgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/44con_hdmi_ethernet_channel_andy_davis_ncc_group_wp.pdf see page 15 and further, seems like they are doing some weirdo stuff, no wonder no one implemented it

[vast temple]

Question: i'm out of sata plugs on my mobo (Gigabyte GA-880gma-ud2h short for AM3+) operating my NAS, I know an HBA is the proper thing to stuff into it but can i use a multiport sata add-in card to take the place of my few ports on the mobo to provide the extra room to add additional drives?

[prisma edge]

I'm a pretty big ugreen fan, but it kinda hurts to find so many spelling mistakes from them sometimes. At least they're reliable.

And in this case they go as far as to advertise a feature pretty much all modern hdmi cables support, wow!

[silent flax]

well this was from like 2016 😄

and well, at least it is not an english manual from chinese writers 🙂

[prisma edge]

Well... hdmi 1.4 was released in 2009 so...

[prisma edge]

Yeahh true

[silent flax]

like this chinese KVM manual

[prisma edge]

Go ahead. Go to the official website to download the USB and

[silent flax]

next page

[prisma edge]

...replace your whole keyboard and mouse

"Yes!!" kvm got some enthusiasm in there lol

[opal pagoda]

domain name is very human

[silent flax]

NetEase 🤷‍♂️

NetEase's official website address is 163.com. This was attributed to the past when Chinese internet users had to dial "163" to connect to the internet, before the availability of broadband internet.

so pretty much same as our yahoo.com, hotmail.com 😄

[opal pagoda]

idk i cant reach it

[silent flax]

🤷‍♂️

https://www.163.com/

[opal pagoda]

ah, the site is so old that without www it doesent work

even tho its just dns config issue

as www.163 is subdomain of 163

[silent flax]

by the way today i finally found out why some of my battery powered Tuya thermometers never got a DHCP lease:

1. they are BT + Wifi Dual mode, so if i have my phone with the Smart Life app, it will communicate with the app directly via BT and never does WiFi (found out this after i started looking at BLE signals and seen two devices with TY name, which had their Mac address with +1 added at the last digit)
2. when i disabled BT in my phone, i found the devices on network for very short period of time with their listed mac address.

Anyway, i will have to find myself some zigbee ones and call it a day, and drop these into the ewaste bin i think 😄

oh, it also didn't do DHCP lease for those addresses, it just used what it got assigned last time. Very not nice, unless they checked if the IP is used, but i doubt that.

[silent flax]

this is arriving tomorrow with an SFP+ RJ45 10gbe module, let's hope they bundled the EU adapter, or i will have to find a compatible one 😄

[sudden flare]

Nice

[silent flax]

LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNEmRaMC7qo

N300, 4x2.5gbe

[obtuse cypress]

OK

[opal pagoda]

haha use that as replacement for that unmanaged gigabit switch

[true raptor]

lol they didn't even know how to write Enthernet

[silent flax]

it would cook itself

[sweet sentinel]

You have to type www for some old websites?!

[true raptor]

that should only be a problem if there is something else running on port 80 or 443 on that server that is not a website

[silent flax]

back in old times, we had to type http:// as well (or https://)

[mild tendon]

i remember having to tell everyone not to pick up the phone lol

and im only 21

we had dial up for a long time

[silent flax]

@mystic latch #networking message for context

[opal pagoda]

i have noticed this warning, what laws does it break if used in p2p rather than p2mp?

https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/display/UM/Wireless+Wire+Cube+Pro%2C+Cube+60Pro+ac

[thorny osprey]

what's wrong

[silent flax]

10 gbps to server, 2.5gbps do desktop, close enough 😛

[silent flax]

so uhm... either ISP has a better day, or switching to a 2.5gbps switch (so 1gbps between ISP router and my router and then 2.5gbps between my own router and desktop) meant my internet speed has jumped from ~850Mbps to 912Mbps. closer to gigabit i guess 🤷‍♂️

[random cobalt]

Multiple routers isn't ideal

[silent flax]

ISP router is so limited i got no choice

no DNS configuration, no DHCP configuration outside of starting number and lease reservation, some IPv6 firewall routes, WiFi settings (i don't use their WiFi) and that's abou tit

[random cobalt]

Eliminate their router or put it in "bridge" mode at least

[silent flax]

so it might not be ideal, bt i have to use OpenWRT to get features like OpenVPN, dnsmasq etc

[silent flax]

impossible, for non-business use they don't allow it to be put in IPv4 mode (bridge/modem mode), and it's a cable modem, so there is no way around it (we got no rules prohibiting ISPs from blocking 3rd party modems)

[random cobalt]

Gross

[silent flax]

but then again i pay 23.9 euros for the 1000/50 cable internet itself, so i can live with it. plus it's IPv6 DS-Lite for IPv4 anyway, so NAT behind NAT behind CG-NAT vs NAT behind CG-NAT, not much difference 😄

[thorny osprey]

ion reading all that

And I have already searched the internet im too dumb to find the correct one

[random cobalt]

@thorny osprey bro, they want you to ask a real question and explain what you are trying to do, not just show a context-less screenshot

[thorny osprey]

Uh trying to go to nextcloud from casaos on my remote ubuntu laptop

clicking on that leads me here

[steel grove]

What possible reason could an ISP have for changing its customers’ IP addresses every 24 hours? And why would they ever change a customer’s IP address before the DHCP lease expires?

[opal pagoda]

cuz they can 😈

[thorn delta]

yeah that seems a bit odd, it should just renew the lease if it's active

[clear igloo]

Because you spelt it wrong
Ethernet is correct, not Enthernet

[night lark]

Hello, i am having issues with my ethernet. I have a cat6 cable, but my pc only recieves 20Mbps, and network utilization is only 2%. Ive tried changing my ethernet adapter settings and nothing seems to work

[silent flax]

context again #networking message

[quick sapphire]

Well fuck. Any ideas how to update my router firmware because hitron doesn't have it on their support page

for the record fast.com still loads

and i contacted my ISP there is no issues on their end

which means it has to be the hardware right?

unless anyone else is having google outages?

[quick sapphire]

sooooo i did some investigation

firmware updates are locked behind a technician account

those bastards

i have to wait 2 days for a dude to update my fucking modem

[clear igloo]

AH! I stand corrected 😄

[barren remnant]

ooh I'll need something like that soon

Do CNAME records need to have a hostname?

like a subdomain? can't it be @

[silent flax]

what would be the point ? * A record is what you are after, no ?

or you want to "rename" the whole domain, to not have A record ?

[silent flax]

but https://serverfault.com/a/44635

so answer is yes, it works, except when it doesn't with certain providers

[pseudo blade]

I'm immediately reminded of Telstra routers with an injection vulnerability you could use to run shell commands (they just used the ping and traceroute commands from Busybox behind the scenes)

It was something like :: & dropbear

Ha, I was exploiting that to gain root on my home routers in like 2018 and there's a CVE from 2023 for exactly the same bug in their newer ones?

https://www.tenable.com/security/research/tra-2023-19

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge wifi 7? I dont even have wifi 6 yet

[rocky badge]

lol

I have a wifi 7 ap

[waxen scroll]

im slow to upgrade wireless because I dont buy 3 new devices a year, theres no point 😛

[pseudo blade]

WiFi 5 is sufficient for my Australian internet connectivity and home needs

I get like 400mbps to my hypervisor from upstairs

[rocky badge]

2.4GHz 🥰

[waxen scroll]

my big campus at work isnt even running wifi 6 lol

[rocky badge]

university is all wifi 6 here

[waxen scroll]

we're getting AP refresh next year I think

[rocky badge]

on catalyst aps 9100

[waxen scroll]

I think we're switching to aruba

[quick sapphire]

lmao man it's almost like it's a network device and receives updates over the air and i just wasted 3 hours

[flat blade]

Not sure if this is the right place. But does anyone know where I could find/make a wireless thumb drive so I can sync my files locally and not use Internet service because I live in the middle of nowhere? 😒

[meager ginkgo]

You’d be better off hosting a NAS on your network

A thumb drive is just asking for trouble

[flat blade]

@meager ginkgo Sorry, forgot to mention that I want to transfer files from different locations. Portable is better.

[meager ginkgo]

Like from somewhere else to it?

or you want to bring it to each location.

[flat blade]

Each location. I write alooot and love to write with a keyboard. At home I have to connect the USB to the laptop and update the documents, when I'm at work I would like to just open it on my work computer and not put my USB on every device I have.

I was thinking of syncing, but of course, you need Internet for that.

At home, no signal, no service, no Internet. At work I do of course.

[barren remnant]

What I am trying to do is redirect example.com to example.co.uk using the CNAME

but the registrar says the CNAME must have a hostname so it allows redirecting www.example.com to www.example.co.uk (or example.co.uk) but not the root domain

Just trying to save the webserver from having to do the redirect

[pseudo blade]

I presume you workplace doesn't permit you to bring random devices to work and connect them to their network? If so you'll just have to deal with using a USB or get home internet I'm afraid.

[barren remnant]

In Windows 95 - WIndows 7 you could use Briefcase so that when you connect your USB the files sync automatically - there are probably modern replacements.

[pseudo blade]

Briefcase solutions still require you to plug the USB stick in

[barren remnant]

Otherwise like Meagus said take the laptop to work

[barren remnant]

true

[pseudo blade]

If work requires you to do stuff at home they should pay for home internet anyways IMO

[barren remnant]

meanwhile theres me sad that my devices are too old to use my full 3gbps speed

[barren remnant]

I think it was personal writing he wanted to do if I understood correctly

but if there is literally no internet in his area it wouldn't help

[full cairn]

anyone know of good celluar attennas

[pseudo blade]

Depends on your goal really. Can you use a directional one?

[silent flax]

officially, it is not allowed, but you can switch to cloudflare for example and they allow it ? https://www.basezap.com/setup-cname-root-domain-cloudflare/

[barren remnant]

Hmm switching registrar's is more hassle than doing the apache redirect but thanks

[silent flax]

registrar ? who said anything about registrar. you just enable DNS for your domain at cloudflare, then redirect the nameservers to the ones cloudflare says you to set

[flat blade]

Yes you are correct, this company is a lil strict when it comes to personal devices. They have a bunch of cameras here, can't just whip up my laptop out. I just decided to use a USB stick for now and make the app portable or something. I wish there was a way to connect a USB via Bluetooth and sync files like that, although that would probably be a hassle. 😔

Don't have admin access either, sigh.

[night lark]

bro i get 5Mbps on fast.com but on steam i only get 2.3Mbps peak. my pc network utilization is only 2%, what should i try to fix? (PS: ive tried changing my ethernet adapter settings, i have cat6 cable and the router is like a few metres away)

[sage crow]

Looking to put a 10gb nic card in my nas server does this look like a counterfeit card or no? I’ve seen a few that seem very iffy.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/355345279898?

This one does as well seeing as its $30

[sage crow]

Could be your isp throttling your speed

[night lark]

but how to explain the fast.com speed test got 5Mbps and steam gets 2.3?

[sage crow]

My isp does the same thing with steam unless I use a vpn

Either way seems excruciating. I couldn’t deal with those speeds at all I feel for you

[low pond]

They are not the same measurement units

2.3MB/s actually is even around 18.4Mbit

[night lark]

yeah, downloading gta5 twice cuz i cleared download cache really is a pain in my behind

[sage crow]

Yea forgot about this. But he could switch it from bytes to bits and see what he’s getting on steam

[night lark]

oh in deed you are right, on fast.com i got 17Mbps now. i mightve just been stupid haha

[sage crow]

All good happens to the best of us

[night lark]

i did do it, 18.8Mbps peak now

[silent flax]

nah, it's just super old. AOC-STG-i2T is Intel X540, which is a NIC from 2012, has a higher power consumption and doesn't support 2.5gbps or 5gbps speeds

[silent flax]

same card with worse heatsinks sells on Aliexpress for ~15 euros or so

[silent flax]

also keep in mind that is an RJ45 card, so you will need either a RJ45 10gbe switch or a switch with SFP+ port and then add a 10gbe RJ45 SFP+ module (which is like 35-40 euros)

[sage crow]

Awesome any links ?

[sage crow]

Yea I’ve got a 10 gig switch

[silent flax]

just search for X540-T2, the one i got was INSPUR

like this https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006268866821.html

or https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006418697209.html

just keep in mind these need at least some airflow directed at that heatsink, or they will overheat

[sage crow]

It’ll be going in a z840 workstation so it has plenty of air flow

You said these don’t actually support 10 gig networking?

[opal pagoda]

they support 10

[silent flax]

10g SFP+ or 10g RJ45 ?

[silent flax]

srry, i meant to say 5gbps

[sage crow]

10g rj45

[opal pagoda]

but they do not support 5g and 2.5g

[silent flax]

(this is what happens when your brain races ahead of your typing LOL)

[sage crow]

I’m looking to increase bandwidth to and from my nas it’s used for plex and file offload and is super slow with a 1 gig port

[silent flax]

X540-T2 does 100/1000/10000. Doesn't do 2500/5000

[opal pagoda]

i would still get a fan and point it at it

[silent flax]

i put one of these from Ali in my server, 2.5 i226-v in my desktop, peak copy speed was

[sage crow]

Will do!

[silent flax]

this is from that Inspur card i linked above

but if you can get supermicro for 30 euros/dollars faster than aliexpress, i would go that route

[silent flax]

but in general, price comes out around 17-18 euros from ali, cause cheaper ones have shipping fees 😄

[sage crow]

Sweet I’ll check them out when I get home thanks!

[shy wolf]

Random question for y’all, do you use one WiFi name or separate the 2.4/5/6 ghz? Just curious on what people do and what is generally preferred. Currently I have them separated myself

[silent flax]

one. i only do separate names when it using same is blocked by UI

[thorn delta]

One is perfered, mobile devices will prefer the 5GHz band and switch automatically to 2.4GHz when signal conditions worsen

It will generally work if it's separated too, but you need to connect to both SSIDs and that can get confusing for people besides yourself. They'll connect only to the 2.4GHz SSID and complain that it's slow, or connect to the 5GHz only SSID and complain the coverage is bad.

[random cobalt]

yeah. separating them is just weird. combine them all and let the devices choose the band based on conditions.

[plucky crescent]

Is there a well respected site for reviews of consumer networking gear?

Rtings doesn't do networking, and I don't really trust the likes of newegg for objective product information

[random cobalt]

all consumer network switches are fine and all consumer network routers are terrible

[plucky crescent]

Exactly, I feel like it is oddly hard to find decent routers without jumping to enterprise grade and learning how to use it properly

[random cobalt]

^

[shy wolf]

I might end up swapping to one network soon then, ive been meaning to change my wifi name and password anyways

[sage crow]

Sorry to bother against but do you know of any 10 gig nics that are less then $100 that will actually do 10 gig networking

[pseudo blade]

Yeah basically - Used market's your best bet

Do be aware that some of them run rather hot and may need you to bodge a fan on if you're not putting them in a rackmount server

[faint saffron]

Is there a way to use phone lines for home networking. Did some youtube but no concrete answers,

[random cobalt]

if you mean straight 2 or 4-wire phone line. not so much.

there are "powerline" adapters to use the power cables (but they are often terrible, but sometimes okay). and there are "MoCA" adapters for coaxial cable.

[fallow wing]

do you maybe mean RJ-11 cables ?

[pseudo blade]

Yes. You can run VDSL over a single copper pair but it's pricy

You can buy purpose-build SFP modems and boxes to do it from Proscend (Metanoia chips)

[silent flax]

the X540-T2 does 10 gigabit over copper (RJ45). It doesn't do 2.5/5g, sorry if i confused you by my first statement

[silent flax]

i already shown you what X540 looks like from ethtool (which is in the supermicro card you asked about too)

[sage crow]

Ohhhh I see yea was a bit confused thanks

[true raptor]

Thanks Sherlock, it was a joke, did you read the chat before that?

Humour is dead

[silent flax]

well damn, after some cleanup of how i wired the house and arrival of the new 10g/2.5g switch now i got one old Linksys router, two 8-port TPLink and one 5 port TPLink switch in "unused network gear" category 😄

[sage crow]

oof

My house wasn’t built with Ethernet in mind but I’ve got a full sized basement so I just drill holes I the floor with rubber grommets and it still works okay

[silent flax]

i had ethernet connectors on walls, but i mean one connector and 4 devices (TV, AVR, whatever else at one spot for example) meant a switch was needed there

and now that i reorganized/put in new wires to some spots, replaced some older bigger 5-port switch with a very small one, i am left with three gigabit switches i will probably never use again at my home

but selling it is also a waste of time, who would buy a 10 year old gigabit switch 😄

[cunning iris]

I'm desperatly looking for a LTT video I'm pretty sure that exists. It features Linus and Emily explaining all the cool stuff you can do with ethernet cables. Can anybody help me?

[silent flax]

can't help you with specific video, but in general, you can push other protocols/interfaces through the ethernet cables, or even TCP/IP. So there is HDMI or USB over CAT cables, or same through IP (that is in normal network packets)

[sage crow]

Went ahead and ordered one of those cards along with a 40mm noctua fan to throw on it.

[cunning iris]

Thank you for your answer, I have no concrete project (yet) but really wanted to see that video agein

[leaden minnow]

Question.
I have Omada stuff. I have a rp4 that's running some docker stuff, I want it on my IoT network.
My IoT network isn't allowed to talk to anything else...I just want this IP to be able to talk back and forth...I'm assuming if I add a rule to let 192.168.10.10/32 to talk to the "main network"...but deny everything else...that should do it?

Doesn't look like Omada will allow it

deny IoT -> LAN
permit device IP that's on IoT <-> LAN

[leaden minnow]

Ahh ok.
The UI is stupid and doesn’t allow CLI so I had to find through trial and error, you can move the rules around.

[silent flax]

can't decide if i should grab another 2.5gbps switch considering none of my remaining devices are 2.5gbps and the central switch is 1gbps anyway due size constraints 😄

but then those china switches are down to 61 euros 😛 (not exactly the model i bough first time, but i suspect they are all the same internally)

also aliexpress stores 😄

do you want the switch from Keeplink store in limited deal for 53+7 euros ?

or the same item for 63.5+7 euros in Superdeals... from same store ? 😄

[frosty oasis]

yeah, its def possible. is what i did.
i setup a vulnerable windows instance on i think a nano/micro instance. then setup azure an azure log analytics workbook. and have it monitor a log file on the vm. back on windoes, letup logging of what u want to that file. run fir a while. finish erex to parse ur log file. lastly pipe to sentinel to splunk through files

then u can do stuff liek alerting for successful login attempts from new ips

then do forensics on liek powershell that was run and do post infection remediation

:3

lol, only almost a year late

[rose flare]

Hi all networking and server question, Ive just updated my truenas and main pc with 10gb cards and connected them to each other, both also have a 1gb connection to lan/wan how would you make it so transfering between the pc and nas is done over the 10gb connection not the 1gb. Cheers

[opal pagoda]

https://youtu.be/NAks6qM9jlM?t=241

[silent flax]

those Cougar PSU cables in that video 😄

also i would personally hate to do this, i would hate to deal with separate IP range and/or mapping the drives permanently. but that's me

[rose flare]

yeah its a not long term thing

[silent flax]

it's RJ45 or fiber connection ? cause if it is fiber, it might be worth it to get those cheapo 4x2.5Gbe RJ45 + 2x SFP+ 10Gbe switches and connect them via SFP+ on that switch

i mean on ali those are like 40 euros ?

[rose flare]

its rj45

[silent flax]

RJ45 makes it expensive with switches, nevermind then

[rose flare]

yeah why im holding out for a switch a little longer

[silent flax]

10Gbe RJ45 SFP+ modules are like 35-40 euros. and let's not talk about native 10Gbe RJ45 switches

[obsidian cedar]

how many powerline adaptors can be used in one house

im assuming its a per breaker thing?

[random cobalt]

it depends on the particular model, but the answer is: more than you could possibly want

[fervent brook]

Is it weird if my Modem's logs stopped at the 23rd, and the page that shows the startup progress says the modem is offline and nothing is active? And I's currently online and watching youtube...

i'll reboot the modem after my phone is done updating

[fervent brook]

now the indicators are as they should be. I didnt really fix anything, but i feel better now

[fallow wing]

currently looking for a solution online but I might as well ask here too :
why would teamviewer see the device I'm trying to reach, attempt to connect, but never open the session, sticking to the loading screen ?

[pseudo blade]

Access prompt on the remote side?
(App, UAC)

[silent flax]

also are you sure you aren't getting that stupid "commercial usage detected" thing ? once i got that, even short term connection failed

[fallow wing]

nah

[fallow wing]

no, I left TV open before leaving this morning

[pseudo blade]

That means little

[fallow wing]

both sides have records of the connection attempts, I tried to solve this all week

[pseudo blade]

Test it when you're next to the target machine

[fallow wing]

yeah

it might be my firewall although I don't see why the rules I've set would block it, I don't see any block records

[slender nest]

hiii, I'm trying to host a server for a game on a older pc in my local network, connection works locally, but even with port-forwarding I can't get it to be reachable from the outside, I assume it has to do something with my ISP using cgnat or smth like that so I don't have a "own" ipv4, any ideas what I can do?

[pseudo blade]

If they use CGNAT, you can use something like Hamachi (I built my own using Wireguard and AWS Lightsail because I hate their service) and have very few other options

On the bright side: If you do tunnel your game traffic from a cloud server to your network, you can get away with pretty much the lowest specs available from the cloud provider/free tiers

[slender nest]

ahh, yea I was looking at wireguard, how hard is that to set up?

[pseudo blade]

Like 5 minutes for me now, it's deliberately simple with basically no configuration options

First time I did it with wg-quick, didn't quite understand AllowedIPs and that took longer

It has a few downsides - no IP pools, everything's static, this...

If I'm insane for wanting the ability to adjust client addressing then I'd hate to see what sane people look like

[slender nest]

i see

[pseudo blade]

It's still a great protocol for getting an encrypted tunnel up, I'd prefer it over ipsec for not being frustrating to configure and overly complex, or for smaller networks where manually updating configs on clients is a nonissue

[slender nest]

sounds good, i´ll get a cheap vps then, you said you used aws right?

[pseudo blade]

I used AWS Lightsail because it has bundled bandwidth and works out cheap for me because of it (+costs are very predictable unlike EC2, similar to DigitalOcean etc. Entire setup costs $3.50/mo, always), if you don't need more than 100GB/month of bandwidth you could set up a t3.micro for free for a year with AWS

[slender nest]

bandwith shouldnt be to high, its gonna be a gameserver, but i dont know what ill be using it with in the future

this one ?

1tb should be more than enough

[pseudo blade]

I use it

[slender nest]

kk

[pseudo blade]

Wireguard runs in the kernel and needs basically no resources

[slender nest]

ah, okii, only thing i dont really understand are the config files, i only ever used wireguard once but that install had a gui

is there a tool to generate them or any guide you could recommend

[pseudo blade]

Not really, grab an example config, pick a subnet for your Wireguard network, specify the IP of the server side from your client, just needs to be specified on one end. Ensure the Wireguard port's exposec on the server...

[slender nest]

ah kk, will try

i got them to connect but cant find anything how to forward specific ports from the server to my local machine

(if it is important the local machine is running windows?)

[pseudo blade]

Yep, you have to look up instructions for doing so for your linux distro you picked

You'll forward to the local system's Wireguard IP

[slender nest]

okiii

[alpine lodge]

Hello I have an totolink ax1800 wifi extender which I use to connect a lan cable to my pc and I was setting it up today and it wasn’t being able to find 5G networks but was only able to detect 4G I need help

[silent flax]

wifi extender doesn't amplify mobile signals

[alpine lodge]

It isn’t a mobile signal

It is extending a router

[silent flax]

Well you said 5g and 4g. There is no 4g with wifi

[thorn delta]

I had too many Mikrotik devices on my desk at work, thankfully Mikrotik also makes a rack lol

[silent flax]

it's a different model, but did you go through the configuration interface like it shows in left side of this PDF ? https://www.totolink.net/data/upload/20210408/cc0322a7b54ea63ea6a75c0f1a45bd44.pdf

[alpine lodge]

yes

on pc and mobile

[silent flax]

and you mean in these steps you pick 5GHz and got no networks detected ?

then it could possibly just not see the network ? have you tried to set it up next to your router ? Does your router actually provide 5Ghz signal ?

[umbral dove]

is it possible to connect a secondary router to a main router wirelessly and plug the second router into my pc with ethernet to have a wired connection or no?

[alpine lodge]

Yes i dont find a 5ghz network , yes it doesnt see it , i did try that , yes my router does

[alpine lodge]

am using the extender for that

i dont have an extra router

[umbral dove]

i have an extender aswell but i tested the speeds on it and it's terrible and i have a second router so i wanna see if i can use that instead

[alpine lodge]

the 5ghz speed on my extender was really good but 4ghz is terrible

i get around 160mb on 5ghz and less than 10mb on 4ghz

i cant even load into sites

[umbral dove]

yea mine was capped at 50mbps

[nimble shadow]

look to get a pretty decent server that will be mainly used to run game servers any suggestions on one i can pick up off ebay or anywhere else?

or should i just look at getting a nuc ?

OR

I have a 2 pc setup for streaming the 2nd pc running windows 11 and its pretty good specs can i setup something where i can run a game service off that pc (id like to run pterodactyl)

[random cobalt]

you can use whatever computer you want as long as the specs are adequate.

[hearty wasp]

Anyone know of any places selling used Unifi AP's in Canada?

[random cobalt]

ebay

[silent flax]

or just buy it from their web store ?

https://ca.store.ui.com/ca/en?category=all-wifi

[alpine lodge]

Hello I have an totolink EX1800T wifi extender which I use to connect a lan cable to my pc and I was setting it up today and it wasn’t being able to find 5Ghz networks but was only able to detect 2.4Ghz I need help

[sturdy light]

quick question, is about $1pp cheap for shielded rj45 connectors?

[pseudo blade]

Not really. But it depends on how many you're looking to buy.

[sturdy light]

For a 50pack it’s 60AUD so about 40USD

50 is way too many though but it’s the best price price I can find where I am

[thick minnow]

is this good

[alpine lodge]

I want to buy a wifi card for my pc any suggestions

[silent flax]

most PCIe WiFi cards on market are just repackaged/built to PCIe slot Intel wifi cards. So pick one which fits what your router offers, most likely just buy whatever AX210 card you will find on maket (WiFi 6E), unless you somehow got a WiFi 7 AP (which are just starting to show up on market)

like all cards are same chip, just different antena/heatsink

[polar timber]

Hi! I noticed that my NAS uses my HDDs every 5 second even when I'm not doing anything on it, and no apps running on that also. I read that one reason for that is the "System Dataset Pool" being set to the pool on HDDs. I didn't get a very clear answer on the internet whether it makes sense to keep the System Dataset Pool on HDD disks or move it to boot SSD. I also couldn't find a clear answer to whether it's bad for the lifetime of my HDD disks that they start for about a second every five seconds continuously.

Would someone be able to clarify for me, does writing to the HDD disks every five seconds negatively affect the lifetime of the disks and should I move the System Dataset Pool to my boot SSD (or do something else to get rid of those five-second writes on HDD disks.)?

[alpine lodge]

I got an old router an TPLink Archer C60 and I wanna use it as a repeater can someone help?

[sturdy light]

can I use connectors rated for 23awg cable with higher gauge cable eg 26awg or 28awg

[wanton relic]

Hey I'm new here but
Is it okay to put a wifi card in a pcie x16 slot?
My gpu is covering the x1 slots on the motherboard that I have

[sturdy light]

yes, you can put a x1 device in a x16 slot

[west vortex]

I'm in need of some help. I'm a rack noob. I am starting a rack homelab soon, and the wallmount rack I want to use to start with doesn't list ear size. Is that normal? I ask, because I want to buy some of the rack studs on the LTT site but there are two different types and idk which one I would need.

[thick minnow]

where is the lan port in my erro is it the right or left port

[lucid flame]

Question, using ROMMON to access the Cisco 100g switch (N9K). I cannot get the vLans to take. Is there a GUI I can do instead of CLI?

[clear igloo]

N9K doesn't have a GUI
You don't use rommon to access the switch, console or SSH is for access. ROMMON is when it doesn't boot
conf t
vlan x
that's all you need

[clear igloo]

Ears come with the devices, not the rack itself

Do they mean hole sizes on the racks itself?

[lucid flame]

Thanks. New to this side of the DevOps field so trying to learn.

[clear igloo]

All good, if you need an SVI (vlan interface) then you need to do "feature interface-vlan" first under config mode

Just remember:
Exec mode: Router>
Priv mode: Router#
Config mode: Router(config)#

[clear igloo]

Then it makes no sense
These are rack ears and they come with the equipment or can be ordered separately if your gear doesn't have them for some reason but they vary because gear width plays a huge role

[silent flax]

talk about rack ears reminded me of the most absurd HTPC case... from Lian Li. At first sight, it looks normal, right ?

but you could get rails for those screw holes at sides... and handles at front

boom, rack case 😄

[slender torrent]

this might be a dumb question but i am not as smart if it comes to networking but i have 100mb/s ethernet speed and a 100mb/s subscription but is there something where i can put 2 cables together so i can have 200mb/s without increasing my ping by a lot? thank you so much to the one who can help me out a simple yes or no could be a answer but if it`s yes how and with what would be nice.

[pseudo blade]

Yes but no, get a faster network card as it'll cost you several dollars if your computer is indeed 15+ years old and doesn't have gigabit, or if it's the router replace it.

[slender torrent]

i have a 2.5 gigabyte ethernet port

[silent flax]

if your question was if you can combine two internet connections, then the answer is "it's complicated". There are solutions for that, but they don't come cheap.

[slender torrent]

ok thanks a lot

[silent flax]

in general it's simpler to switch to faster internet option if it is available

[opal pagoda]

Speedify is "cheap" solution but you still have to buy 2nd internet connection and also pay a speedify subscription
If its possible its better to have 1 faster link than 2 slower ones (except if you want failover)

[silent flax]

alternative is routers with dual WAN load balancing, but it doesn't combine the internet speeds, it just distributes them. So one connection will go through internet connection 1, and next one goes through internet connection 2

[slender torrent]

ok thanks y'all i appriciate it

[waxen scroll]

A what?

[west vortex]

I see, ty for clarifying that. I had a feeling this was the case. So, is it safe to assume then that the heavier the gear, they will likely have bigger ear holes to support the weight?

[mellow heart]

Anyone here with a FiOS router (CR1000A) gotten this error before?

Domain Name: Name may not contain spaces. Only letters, digits and the special characters dash (-), underscore (_) and dot (.) may be used. These special characters may not appear at the beginning or at the end of a name. The maximum length of a label (text between two dots) is 63.

[random cobalt]

are you having an actual problem, or just some random log entry?

[peak cloak]

what are you trying to do

[mellow heart]

Literally nothing... I was originally trying to change my default password, but now realize that I get it matter what I try to change. Even just changing the admin name to admin1 or something causes the same issue. Even not changing anything causes it

[clear igloo]

Negative, there will be more RU of ear but the holes are pretty much standard-ish in terms of height at least

[clear igloo]

Switched Virtual Interface 😛

[opal pagoda]

i have ran into something that m6 screw couldnt fit in, i forgot what exact thing it was. had to use m5 cage nuts/screws with that equipment

[waxen scroll]

you mean a router?

[clear igloo]

Yes, but on a switch, it's wild 😛

[waxen scroll]

oh so like netgear

[clear igloo]

Yah, there are always exceptions to the rule, haha

[clear igloo]

Exactly!!

[opal pagoda]

i belive it was cable manager, it defo wasnt active piece of equipment

[clear igloo]

Ah, interesting, yah that might explain it

[opal pagoda]

i also had installer f up a rack install
basically they incorrectly assembled the rack and now its has a bit wider spacing and its pain to put anything in it

[west vortex]

So should I just buy the "smaller" sized studs and not worry about it?

[clear igloo]

Hard to say, I would almost say wait for the rack to get there and triple check

Smaller should be fine but I'd hate to say that on the off chance it shows up with larger holes

[west vortex]

Gotcha, make's sense. I'll have the rack before any other parts anyway, so I'll do that. Thank you for the advice

[fierce jay]

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[wicked oyster]

Wanted to ask a question, I just got 5g internet, plugged in to my ethernet, and my ping isnt improving, any ideas why?

[hexed plaza]

who here can i bug about a new ubiquity setup for a daycare? am an electrician tasked with setup of a camera/networking system, so i chose ubiquity(same as my home network) but i need help picking out proper stufffor the application, since i doubt a single dream machine has the bandwidth for ~40 ish cams that my customer wants inside and outside the building

[peak cloak]

You can get an NVR

[hexed plaza]

For storage I'll be getting 2 unvr pros, but i mean throughput since all the cams and at least 4 ap's will be used,or is there a better option than the udm pro

[peak cloak]

what cameras are you getting?

and what resolution are you planning on recording?

[hexed plaza]

Not sure, but customer probably will use about 15 g3 flex cams indoors, along with about 8 g5 bullets and maybe 4 g5 pros

Plus some others likely

Maybe even the keycard thingy, they want to be able to record a month worth of footage, so its getting decked out with 8tb drives

[peak cloak]

so at 1080p, high quality, h264 encoding you will be at about 480 mpbs

[hexed plaza]

Ok then that should be fine hopefully

[peak cloak]

If I were you I would put it on a seperate switch

[hexed plaza]

its all getting a seperate 48 port poe switch

since its getting a regular udm not a udmse

[peak cloak]

cameras and NVR on same subnet, no camera traffic will be going through router

[hexed plaza]

k, can be done

now, question is, how many hdd's needed for the month long recording time they want

[peak cloak]

160tb storage needed... so alot

IMO it's not worth it

it's not some super secure facility

weeks worth of storage is only around 40tb which is more manageable

[hexed plaza]

well, 3 nvrp's and 8tb drives

not that bad, will fit in the rack

they are also wanting a 2 day ups lol

[peak cloak]

yeah, honestly superised a daycare has this type of money to spend on IT...

can't imagine it being cheap

[hexed plaza]

new construction

[peak cloak]

still

[hexed plaza]

ups will be a large eton one with remote controll to a deisel genset with a 5 day? tank

whatver i can get from my dealer

eaton*

@peak cloak the viewport, is it able to be used across multiple displays? Was thinking of setting up like a 2x2 grid of somemdecent computer monitors to view all the cams, could i do one into a hdmi splitter or something then to all the displays

Or is a high def tv a better option

Or should i just get them one of thoes little intel PCs

[tribal sequoia]

480 mbps if the devices are all on the same switch is NOTHING

[peak cloak]

honestly no clue

[tribal sequoia]

most switches have 100-500 gigabit backplane communication

[hexed plaza]

Wont hurt tho

For the cheapest poe uniquity 48 port switch

[tribal sequoia]

what is the cheapest?

is it the 500w or is there only that 750w one

they have a 195w 48port poe for 500ish, i'm assuming that one?

[hexed plaza]

Yeah

195

Unless i find a non ubiquity switch for cheap again

Like my personal 30w per port 24 port switch for $50

[hexed plaza]

Theres a netgear one on Craigslist rn for $100

[thorn delta]

There's a capacity calculator on their site

[hexed plaza]

Yeah just saw that a few mins ago

[thorn delta]

I was going to say more, then scrolled down and basically everything I was going to say already was said. perfect lol

[hexed plaza]

lol

yeahim prolly going to get thoes 48 port poe netgear switches, why not

$100ea cant beat it

[shadow mauve]

Has anyone tried these new sub-$100 2.5Gbps managed MC-LAG aliexpress switches? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006470259900.html

[silent flax]

i only have the unmanaged one, worked just fine

[silent flax]

99% it is going to be same as https://www.servethehome.com/mokerlink-2g05210gsm-web-managed-5-port-2-5gbe-and-10gbe-switch-review/ like every other product on ali is internally the same thing

[queen salmon]

can you run poe on regular rj45 cables or do you require special ones

[peak cloak]

regular ones

[queen salmon]

thanks

[shadow mauve]

Thanks @silent flax

[silent flax]

i mean most of these chinese switches are copies of each other, with very minor differences, they use the same Realtek chips. So most likely the difference between the two different managed 2.5gbe switches is going to be different CSS style on top of the Realtek UI 😄

[steel grove]

What does 10/100/1000 Ethernet mean? Are those the speeds the device is able to send and receive data at using Ethernet? Or does it have something to do with the quality of the cable?

[raw timber]

Lol we just had out network go down because of this

[mossy slate]

if anyone could help me find a fix i'd be grateful since microsoft support did nothing. the last couple days my ethernet is not working any idea why?

if i were to run the diagnose option i would be greeted with " Ethernet doesnt have a valid IP config "

so i talk to my internet provider?

yup let me open it

what am i looking for?

?

ah nope then

under properties there is just info about it

link-local IPv6 address or IPv6 DNS servers

nope

i have but no luck

[silent flax]

yes, it is the speeds the device is able to negotiate. Prety much everything can do 10/100/1000 these days (with exception of some older 802.11n access points which only do 10/100). But speeds above that, some devices only do 10/100/1000/10000, while newer ones do 10/100/1000/2500 or 10/100/1000/2500/10000 Mbps.

[steel grove]

What do you mean by older 802.11n access points? Does this apply to WiFi too, not only Ethernet?

[silent flax]

i mean access points have an ethernet port through which they get their internet. And some have only 100mbit port

like https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/access-point/tl-wa801nd/

[steel grove]

That makes sense. Thank you for the explanation

[silent flax]

and what i meant is that some older 10 gigabit network cards for example don't support 2.5 gigabit

and on windows gigabit NIC

vs 2.5 gigabit (there are gigabit options when scrolled upwards)

so auto negotiation picks whatever both sides can agree on, and every device has list of modes it supports. So if you have a device which can do 100/1000/2500 and on other side a device which can do 100/1000/10000, then they will settle on 1000Mbps => 1 Gigabit

so the list is important to figure out at what speed two devices will talk to each other. Of course you can fix that speed difference by using switches, where switch can communicate 100 Mbps with one device and 1000Mbps with another

[steel grove]

What's half duplex?

[steel grove]

This only applies to old devices, correct? All modern devices are full-duplex?

[silent flax]

normally yes, but stuff has to support weird stuff too

[steel grove]

Okay. Thanks again for the clear explanation

[steel grove]

What does Jake mean when he says that every uplink device is connected to both switches? Does every device have two NICs and is physically connected to both switches, or does one switch automatically connect the devices to the other switch when it goes down? https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=FlrgKAneI4O6aUp3&v=t78p50s32HY&t=21m34s

[twin patrol]

If I am using a shared Ziply fiber is there a reason I would not be able to to get an ipv6 address? Ziply wants to upgrade me for ¢200 more per no for dedicated fiber.

I know it will got the same dmarc in the building shared with Ziply.

I need ipv6 because VPN does not support v6 to v4 conversions for VPN.

[waxen scroll]

it's not bigger than mine but OK

@rocky badge muh port-channel

[nimble shadow]

If I’m building a server what’s a good cpu I should go for under around $200 for the cpu

[rocky badge]

If they are stupid

It’s STP based where STP will block an uplink and STP blocking will unblock if an uplink goes down

But that does not work well in a stacking config

So it’s maybe some sort of MC-LAG

Since the dells would support MC-LAG and ubiquitis would see a single device doing MC-LAG

But iirc they stack so it would be a single control plane so maybe just regular LACP

Honestly I would MC-LAG and not stack

Usually stacking will takedown the whole stack if you firmware upgrade which they mentioned was a pro

Even though they then show the dell switch clearly stating “2” as the system ID

[clear igloo]

It's MC-LAG but they probably have priority on the pair so setting a 1 and 2 can help

[rocky badge]

Ah

[clear igloo]

I haven't looked at the Dell stuff but maybe it's auto set 1 and 2 depending on who's active too, so in the event of a failover 2 becomes 1 on the display which would be nice

[hollow marlin]

Yeah, I saw AJ on the reddit mention it would be MLAG

[hollow marlin]

I've only implemented MLAG in a lab, but if most the complaints with MLAG are as common as they seem, it may not be as preferred. I'd prefer MLAG over a stack though

[rocky badge]

Oh that makes sense

Usually I see ID on the switch and assume it means system ID and it’s in stacking

[silent flax]

it all depends on what you expect from the 'server'. I mean for NAS you can go as low as dualcore ARM CPUs or cheap Atoms. On other end you can go as high as Threadrippers/Intel HEDT or dual socket boards (if we ignore prebuilt servers)

[worthy gyro]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Link-Mesh-WiFi-Router-System-Upgrade-Home-Coverage-up-to-3-000-sq-ft-Two-Mesh-Routers-Deco-W2400/700801321?athcpid=700801321&athpgid=AthenaItempage&athcgid=null&athznid=siext&athieid=v0&athstid=CS055&athguid=9mvzmd7Z2mTObtgtv_MvVHR_x2cMlLz2VReZ&athancid=172020887&athposb=0&athena=true&athbdg=L1600 is this good for the price

I saw that

[fleet briar]

hehehehehehe I love wired router connections...

[meager ginkgo]

Depends on your internet speed. If you only have 200-300mbps internet it should be fine

I’d probably spend some more though to get something WiFi 6 atleast

Avoid Eero and Google Nest

[worthy gyro]

i get 470mbps download

so im guessingthat isnt worth

[meager ginkgo]

Not if you want more than 200ish Mbps on WiFi

200ish is a high end for that spec

AC1200 is pretty low end nowadays lol

[worthy gyro]

o

[worthy gyro]

man budget stuff is so trash

[worthy gyro]

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Wireless-Desktop-Access-WAX204/dp/B08X1NLZ47/ref=sr_1_24?crid=2FEBAJ96L08Y0&keywords=access+point&qid=1706675742&refinements=p_n_feature_nineteen_browse-bin%3A24084332011&rnid=24084309011&s=pc&sprefix=access+point%2Caps%2C108&sr=1-24?

[vagrant zinc]

Hey everyone! Anyone know how to change to EA on a UCK? No option 😦

[opal pagoda]

They were talking about dual links from core/aggregation layer to access switch, it is just port channel

[main tartan]

There's a checkbox there that you must activate first

https://unifi.ui.com/consoles/[YOUR_ID_HERE]/network/default/settings/system

[valid harness]

I’m having an issue with my Netgear gs108 and anytime I connect the Ethernet cable and I try to connect i get someting it having no ip config. If you can help dm me please

[vagrant zinc]

Light giggle

[silent flax]

wishing Ali selles would save a bit on width of a device, this is close to ideal in size, the whole section for SFP kills the size gains tho 😛

2cm shorter on each side (ignoring height) and it would be ideal

not much space to save tho

[pseudo blade]

Yeah looks like there's no room to route everything smaller unless they add board layers and those cost money.

They could go integrated magnetics if they sell them in the right spec but... expense

I think it's pretty obvious we're looking at something built for a sweet spot cost (and it's pretty small anyways tbh)

I'm a little... interested in those promised backplane speeds considering it's obviously two switch chips but I guess if it's 10gbps full-duplex between them it's wirespeed anyways

[silent flax]

68 euros https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006173178892.html

sadly my space constraints are crazy, the 5-port gigabit switch i have there with size of 3.5 × 2.8 × 0.9 in. (90 × 72 × 23 mm) is about the right size 🙂

so adding 3cm to width and depth is asking for a lot

[pseudo blade]

So is 2.5gbe in that formfactor by looks

[silent flax]

the one with SFP+ is 8x2.5gbe/1x10gbe yes

[pseudo blade]

It's possible to build one but I had a look and nobody seems to

[silent flax]

the small one i have now is a gigabit

i know about one small 5x2.5gbe, but price is insane

https://eu.dlink.com/en/products/dms-105-5-port-2_5g-multi-gigabit-desktop-switch 130 euros

[pseudo blade]

Price, size and performance? Yeah good luck :P

[silent flax]

which is a double i paid for 8x2.5 + 1x10 SFP switch

[pseudo blade]

2.5gbe isn't really at scale yet and it shows

It's getting closer though!

[silent flax]

well for now i keep the rest of home at gigabit, not like i have 2.5gbe in those systems anyway (unless i buy PCIe cards for 15 euros a piece)

[pseudo blade]

I'm running everything off WiFi 5 still and probably won't change that unless I suddenly end up with gigabit

[fallow wing]

WHAT

[fallow wing]

MokerLink ?

[fallow wing]

I am positively salivating at the idea of violently throwing money at my screen when looking at that one 6E access point I've spotted today

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

one day
one day I'll get one of those expensive pieces of hardware for myself

[silent flax]

ONTi, but its just anitger china brand

[fallow wing]

managed ?

[silent flax]

No

[fallow wing]

damn

[silent flax]

But it was 68 euros minus coupons

[fallow wing]

MokerLink is also "yet another chinese brand" but they have a pretty darn good 8x2.5 1x10 managed switch

for 140 and pixie dust or something

[silent flax]

some sellers have weird measuring tapes tho, or they have gigantic RJ45's 😄

i mean here it says 123mm width

this one says 160mm ?

while this one says 140mm ?

[silent flax]

and this one is actually very tempting even if i don't have devices for it 😄

51.23 euros from tomorrow with free shipping

or 32.82 euros for 4+2

[fallow wing]

I'm looking at something that has an extra zero and seriously considering to pull the trigger on it as I'd avoid having to buy 4 different devices that replaces it

[silent flax]

extra zero ?

[fallow wing]

On the price

[silent flax]

would love this, but around half the price maximum https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005242712800.html 😄

[fallow wing]

It would replace my current switch plus the PoE switch I intended to buy and has a metric fuckload of features that would be very cool to mess around with

[fallow wing]

Sheesh

[steel grove]

Are all layer 2 switches unmanaged?

[low pond]

No

You definitely have managed once as well

[tribal sequoia]

There are "VLAN support" switches as well

There's tons of layer 2 managed switches.

[neon dragon]

does anyone know how i can fix this?

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo university wifi being shit

[twin slate]

damn, my 4g in the country side is more stable than this

Anyone here running a Ruckus based network? I got my hands on a R340 access point and 3 R500's. Any tips or tricks running a network on them or is it set and forget for eternity.

[clear igloo]

Aren't those all controller based? idk if they run in a local mode or have the ability to act as a controller

[twin slate]

They do, and they do run locally just fine. I got the r340 first and it has been running for moths now.

500's are next for install

[clear igloo]

Ah, nice, well in that case they should be fine

[twin slate]

Do need to buy to two outdoor boxes to stick them into tho, cause outdoor AP's by themselves are 3x the price 🙂

now the big question is: do I need a dedicated PoE router. Do have a Mikrotik ATL LTE18 kit that right now runs as a router, the R340 runs as an AP by itself with a PoE injector. So I'm gonna be adding the 3 R500's to that mix, one on the inside and 2 on the outside to have a 360 wi-fi around the house. Either just add PoE injectors with a basic switch (i have a simple 1gbit dlink), or go full fancy with a Mikrotik L009UiGS-RM and put the 4g antenna into a pass-through mode

[clear igloo]

I would get a PoE+ switch if possible, maybe a 5 or 8 port one

[twin slate]

https://mikrotik.com/product/RB960PGS this one seems like a good and cheap option 🙂

I don't need more ports cause this thing will go in the attic, one of the cables will run to the 1st floor and will run into a switch where I will wire up downstairs as needed

(i'd go for 10 gig, but those are kind'a not cheap)

[clear igloo]

Nice, yah that looks perfect

[thorn delta]

Just keep in mind that you need to buy a separate 48 to 56V power brick, it only comes with a 24V brick

[twin slate]

should not be a problem 🙂 Home country for this stuff

we have this stuff literally everywhere

[thorn delta]

Latvia?

It's not super common outside of small ISPs here, but being in a small ISP I have shitloads of it

[twin slate]

yep

[twin slate]

their LTE stuff is really good tho, so many people use

[thorn delta]

Oh for sure, I got some of that stuff deployed in a few places and it works quite nicely. Got a setup on the camp property that just barely pulls in a couple megabits when phones can't even send a text

In the spring I'll be running 600ft of fiber and cheap copper landscape wire up the hill behind the building, with a GPEN21 at the end, then I could move the LTE modem to a tree that has near LOS to the cell tower, where I'll get closer to 50-70 Mbps instead of a sketchy 2 Mbps

[twin slate]

i have some interference on mine, either a neighboring tower from the city or idk what, cause tower is LOS with no obstacles at 1.6 km (1 mile)

but the speeds ain't as great, only a 50/50 when speed testing roughly

though I do pull up to 10 MB/sec on torrents 😄

kind'a been thinking maybe I should have 2 antennas to two different towers and do that bonded thing

[worthy gyro]

ti

yo

[tribal sequoia]

they should have unleashed os and zonedirector i think?

maybe they don't have unleashed idk

yep r500's have unleashed, so you can run them in that mode and elect a controller

[twin slate]

yup, both models have unleashed on them

[pseudo blade]

Do be aware that the hEX PoE's CPU's not great past 100mbps without Fast Path+Track enabled for NAT (good for maybe half a gigabit with, depending on setup?), you'd be better off leaving your routing duties on the ATL

The other gotcha is that it can't do af/at PoE unless you switch the included PSU for a 48V one.

[pseudo blade]

Oh I got beaten to it

[pseudo blade]

Ehh so it's fine for your real-world speeds (but not ideal if you get better service later)

I'd go for the hAP AX^2/AX^3 for the PoE and better platform even if you have your own WiFi setup if your only PoE device is the ATL

[twin slate]

the 4 access points are gonna be PoE powered, since they will be in places where a power brick can't be used

[fallow wing]

4 seconds of ping ? wtf ?

[twin slate]

so I do need a proper PoE switch or router, I would prefer to have at least a few 10 gig ports though for trunk line running between floors

doesn't have to be a cheap thing one too like the HeX/hAP

[twin slate]

yeah okay, that's a no-go, I do need proper gigabit speeds for video streaming around home network in 4k full quality, at times multiple streams even

[silent flax]

me and my bad business decisions 😛

(one is 8+1, other is 4+2)

[fallow wing]

I love the logic behind that

you've got 20G in copper ? let's give you 10G of fiber
you've got 10G in copper ? let's give you 20G of fiber

[silent flax]

that is more down to capabilities of the chip itself

[fallow wing]

it can't be 8+2 and 4+1

[silent flax]

i mean 4x2.5 = 10 + 20 = 30. 8x2.5=20 + 10 = 30 🤷‍♂️

the odd ones out are the 5+1 versions which are just 22.5 Mbps

[fallow wing]

you can't make me believe that since the first commercialisation of those, no one ever thought "hey, let's make chips that have balanced switching capabilities for the ports we put on them"

[silent flax]

The switch appears to be using the RTL8373-CG and the RTL8224-CG switch chips just like the earlier models. It is using a 10G uplink from the RTL8224-CG to the RTL8373-CG. Each has four 2.5GbE links downstream and the latter has a 10G SFP+ link as well.

like they are all literally the same thing

[fallow wing]

by balanced, I meant the equivalent copper AND fiber bandwidth

[silent flax]

but again, it is about what are capabilities of those chips. clearly it is 4x2.5 and then the other chip provides either 2x10gbe or 1x10gbe + 4x2.5, and it is "choose one or another" 🙂

so like sure, they could add another extra chip or whatever, but that would make them more expensive

to be honest, most people who buy these switches are either ignoring the SFP+ port altogether, or use the SFP+ as uplink to the server with 10gbe, and then multiple clients can "hammer" the server with their 2.5gbe speed limits, so it can handle 4 at once no problem

[fallow wing]

I mean, it would probably leagues more practical for literally everyone involved to have 20G and 40G capable chips

vendors would have a wider array of products to market and users would have stuff sized to their needs

plus it wouldn't keep triggering my 'tism to see either twice or half the fiber to the copper

[long pecan]

Just downloaded a proper ssh client cos I’m tired of using terminal. This isn’t gonna get confusing 🤣

[silent flax]

and i thought i seen everything crazy in Aliexpress... Today's finds

(they pretty much put the USB ethernet chip to the USB connector instead of doing it as adapter)

also RJ45 Cat6 cable which can rotate ?

[gusty storm]

wow i can finally ditch my electric toothbrush and use this instead

[fallow wing]

I- huh

if this actually works, I could see a few use cases where this could come in handy

[fallow wing]

I wonder how well it works
I'm guessing the casing could get hot

[silent flax]

🤷‍♂️ https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006184311635.html

later

they can't make up their mind LOL

[fallow wing]

"watching movies is not jammed" well I sure damn hope it wouldn't jam Shrek when All Stars is about to start, I'd be pissed otherwise

[fallow wing]

they never can, it's AE after all
not that Amazon does any better in that aspect either

[lucid hawk]

Hi everyone, I’m looking to bring WiFi to my boat with an LTE router and possible an antenna to hook up to the router, does anyone have any recommendations for antennas? And possible LTE routers? Antenna doesn’t have to be high end or anything, currently I loose my phone signal, mostly 2 bars. Mainly I’m looking for consistent connection and somewhat decent (1/1 or something).

[fallow wing]

chinese products are a literal russian roulette, you can have very decent product with a matching description or an absolutely awful mess that has the same stat reported but every iteration of it has a different value

[fallow wing]

lake type boat ?

[silent flax]

does cell network even have connectivity there ? i mean if you are looking at ocean/sea/big lakes, you most likely have zero coverage

in that case your best solution is starlink

(the one where you pay extra for being able to move it)

[fallow wing]

that, and if your phone gets two bars, I don't expect an LTE router to fare much better either

[lucid hawk]

We don’t go far off land, far enough to loose visual on land, but phone cell cuts out sometimes

So it’s either starlink or nothing?

[fallow wing]

if you lose visual on land, there's not much that can be done about that, you're essentially far enough that earth's curve becomes the problem

[fallow wing]

considering your description of what your boat trips entails, yes

satellite or nothing

unless you go at large every day, I don't think a subscription (especially with how expensive they can get) are worth your time

[edgy pasture]

Forgot starlink for boat is like 10k

[lucid hawk]

Okay then if I stay closer to land?

[edgy pasture]

Just get sat internet. Dont say its for boat

[fallow wing]

then it just depends on where the relays are and how far inland they are

[edgy pasture]

Cell tower range is like 5 mile

[fallow wing]

I believe it is much more than that

you lose network before looking cellular signal

well

you can receive signal but not transmit it I guess

ah the joy and wonders of long range UHF

[fallow wing]

I'm no radio operator but if you want to keep some sort of cell signal, my best guess would be that you stay within half the distance of the coast being BVR

(Beyond Visual Range)

you should have some signal remaining

but it really depends on a BUNCH of factors

[silent flax]

or just don't expect internet on the sea 🤷‍♂️

[fallow wing]

and at that distance, signal quality can get influenced by atmospheric factors too

if a cloud is too big, you ain't getting no netflix above bikini bottom

[lucid hawk]

Fuck it, I’ll just buy a bulk Ethernet cable and let em float in the water

[fallow wing]

(I'm mostly fishing from the knowledge I've gleaned around my dad, he's a HAM radio operator)

[fallow wing]

[fallow wing]

actually no

[silent flax]

also isn't $10k for the big ships & oil rigs ?

[lucid hawk]

not float but

[fallow wing]

buy fiber
and get those 10km transceivers

[lucid hawk]

Jesus Christ

[fallow wing]

huh

[fallow wing]

well, you are asking for quality internet
and there's only so many ways to get it

[lucid hawk]

I’ll just host my own god damn www on a server on the boat

Genius

yeah I guess, but basically only reason for the stable connection would be for my partners work, although a homelab on the boat doesn’t sound to bad, I mean am already in debt so why not add to it

[fallow wing]

your partners' work ? how much does it rely on having internet ?

[lucid hawk]

Very low in terms of actual bandwidth, more on just a connection to be able to update and read messages etc

[fallow wing]

hmmmmm there might be solutions but they're a fair bit technical
allows for a much longer range and low bandwidth for the kind of application you're asking about but I know nothing of the hardware and details, just that they exist

plus you need an operating licence like any other radio operator and whatnot

sorry mate, can't help you much more than that

reached the limitation of my knowledge

[silent flax]

Ali sellers manage to fail product pictures even when doing copy-paste

[fallow wing]

fail product pictures ?

which part ?

[lucid hawk]

All good, thanks for all the info, really appreciate it :)

[fallow wing]

good luck in your networked boat endeavors

[silent flax]

have you heard of MANAGER switch ? I only heard about MANAGED switches so far

[fallow wing]

OH

you meant that part

it's just a bad translation

OMG FLOATPLANE IRL ??? (gone wrong) (gone sexual)

[pseudo blade]

It's just for management
The plebsregular employees only get gigabit

:P

[hollow fable]

Got a couple of questions about Powerline adaptors if anyone has got the time. Firstly, would you recommend them and secondly, and I know it effects performance, but how does it affect latency?

[silent flax]

if you can do actual ethernet, go for ethernet. Powerline might still be preferable to wifi, but. See this for hints about what to look for https://micoolpaul.com/2023/07/10/how-to-actually-increase-powerline-adapter-throughput/

[hollow fable]

Thank you for that info. From what I have read, I am guessing you are saying that whatever latency increase there is will be minimal?

[silent flax]

i wouldn't say minimal, but at least in my experience usually what got lost was bandwidth with distance. So ping was fine, but speed was impacted (but we talk about like 15m of wiring or so, in probably old house wiring)

i mean it is not good, but most likely it is better than wifi, as there is less interference

https://www.servethehome.com/over-a-decade-later-powerline-av-networking-still-sucks-tp-link-netgear/
https://www.servethehome.com/powerline-av-take-2-nexuslink-g-hn-wave-2-2000-powerline-attempt/

[hollow fable]

Understood. It's just that there is so much crap about powerlines and, most if not a certain block of people, will recommend a PtP bridge but then again, who would do such a thing in a typical family home with rooms.

[silent flax]

do you have coaxial cable runs ?

cause if you do, you might consider MoCa instead

https://www.amazon.com/MOTOROLA-Adapter-Ethernet-Bonded-MM1000/dp/B077Y3SQXR

[hollow fable]

No, at least i dont think so. I will have to look into that

[silent flax]

i mean in that second servethehome review, in '50s house

vs wifi

mesh wifi is an alternative too, but that is going to be costly

[north basalt]

Does someone here use WAN failover with PfSense? I am interested in the delay when switching between WANs. How long does it take?

[hollow fable]

Thank you Sir. You have answered my questions and my concerns. Much appreciated.

[silent flax]

ideally buy them from somewhere where you can return them, test them out and return if they don't work for you. Or buy one where you don't mind the expense if it won't work out for you

[hollow fable]

Thanks for that. I will take your advice. And yes, I have more than enough computer related gear to fit a large room most of which I never needed lol.

[tribal sequoia]

could be nothing if it has forward error correction

and no dropped packets

but i know shit about pfsense so maybe i shouldn't have even answered 😄

[clear igloo]

FEC is more intended for links at high transmission speeds by adding extra bits so the decoder on the other side of the link can detect/correrct errors in transmission, not really for correcting for completely lost/dropped packets
TCP Retransmit might make a failover more seamless but generally failover between two interfaces will take some hit, even if it's sub-second

[clear igloo]

It highly depends on the detection mechanism used and the delay timers, I've not set it up myself but it could be several seconds to sub-second depending on what the failure is (upstream, link failure, etc) and how you monitor

[tribal sequoia]

use it with sdwan to avoid voip streams dying

so uh, works fine idk

used it on advpn setups as well for uh... similar things hah

[hollow marlin]

Yep. Routers best case is 50ms if configured properly in the right scenario. Firewalls on the other hand (specifically with multia-AS WANs) are much longer and should be. An interface going down can be sub-second but for proper failure detection further upstream, there should be implicit delays (in seconds) in the probes to reduce false positives. Typically there will be much longer delays on the client side as the sessions need to be rebuilt.

[hollow marlin]

multi-WAN failover != active/active tunnels (which SDWAN would be using)

[tribal sequoia]

and that is why i never use multi wan failovfer

it's been replaced as far as i'm concerned

generally it would failover as fast as you set the sla tbh no?

5-10 failures is what i've usually had set in the past

[hollow marlin]

No, its still widely used

[tribal sequoia]

kinda gross tbh

but reasonable considering not everything does sdwan

[hollow marlin]

It would yes. However, there should be multiple SLAs and conditions to ensure there is not a false positive

[tribal sequoia]

i only set 2...

1 to the isp gateway and one to 8.8.8.8 or something

[clear igloo]

Apparently I learned there is two types of FEC

1. Used in the DC for high speed links which uses bits in a parity packet, this is what I'm familiar with
2. Used on SD-WAN to send duplicate copies of packets in case of packet drops

[tribal sequoia]

velocloud (or vmware whatever the fuck it is now) tout it quite a lot

[clear igloo]

broadcom cloud 😛

[hollow marlin]

The config I build for our deployments include 4 probes to cover directly connected and transit failures

[hollow marlin]

Leave it to SD-WAN vendors to reuse a well known acronym

[tribal sequoia]

fortinet is 100% the latter

[hollow marlin]

In the MPLS world thankfully they kept with active-stanby for packet replication for FRR

[tribal sequoia]

i was about to ask if you have mpls talking about direct connected routes dying

[hollow marlin]

Nah, when I mention directly connected routes, that is interface failures which is what signals the routes to be removed and all the other processes

[tribal sequoia]

use loopback?

[hollow marlin]

I am mainly referring to our Juniper SRX multi-WAN deployments. No loopbacks required.

Of course in our core (Juniper MXes), yes

Or are you referring to OAM loopbacks?

[tribal sequoia]

nah just running everything through an always on int

[worthy gyro]

yall got fast inetner

[thick minnow]

Hey LTT Discord, Im trying to port forward my router and i logged in but for the serial number verification it doesnt let me type the full serial number

[pseudo blade]

You want #1027757333117415424

[thick minnow]

im trying everywhere

[pseudo blade]

This channel isn't for basic tech support. You'll need to wait for a response in #1027757333117415424

[hollow totem]

Hey fellas. Just a quick question

Is there a way to use a usb connected hdd / ssd / m.2 dock that I use for my old drives as a Network drive acting as a shared storage / file movearound between my PC's?

I know nothing about networking apart from very basics

[tribal sequoia]

share it from one of the pc's you plug it into across your network

[silent spruce]

Heya fellas, i wanna set up Networkboot for a PC i Overclock probably a last time (idk how long it is gona stay alive), so since i don't really have a drive that i can use i wanted to Network boot

And i was gonna networkboot Windows

well, i think it is already dead

Best i can do is that i test each Memory stick

nnvm, RAM

[silent spruce]

nvm, there was no dedicated GPU

[nimble shadow]

Add to the wish list

[tribal sequoia]

Those all qsfp28 +ports?

Guess it better be for 16.2m dollars

How many terabits of traffic does it say it can route

[hollow marlin]

That's not even the correct image, that's a 160c, not 80c

[hollow marlin]

8/16tbps for the 80c/160c

The PTX series is their transport focused series. Not a flexible as MX but primarily for port density

They finally released the replacement which was just announced: PTX10002-36QDD. Wipes the floor with the 80c/160c and 2RU instead of 3RU

[dire moss]

Hello, I have a question that has had me curious for quite some time. My question is how does (lets just say Host A) send out data to Host B through an internet connection and know which device to send it to in the external network. If I am to understand this correctly Host A sends out a packet to Host B and when it arrives at the last router it uses NAT and PAT to decide which device(private IP) on the assigned public IP(Router and ISP based IP) network receives the packet; However if this is correct, then what would happen if two devices on Host Bs network had two of the same ports open?

[lucid hawk]

okay but how much is the license for that thing…?

[clear igloo]

Which license?

[lucid hawk]

I assume they have a software license for it?

[fallow wing]

Just put OPNsense in this bad boy

[sage prism]

Hey everyone! I saw some recommended very cheap aliexpress 2.5G switches in here, any recommendations of a good and cheap one?

[fallow wing]

How much are we talking about here

[sage prism]

I'm not sure, i saw some aliexpress links for 2.5G switches in the past so i was just wondering which of them could be recommended right now

[fallow wing]

Welp, it's hard to recommend products from AE, since most of the brands are unheard of here

Not impossible of course but it requires a fair amount of reviews so I guess you should look around for client actual testing of the panels

[uncut holly]

That's bonkers

[nimble shadow]

does anyone have any ubiquiti discount codes

[fallow wing]

Pretty sure that if anyone had any, we'd be keeping them for ourselves

[nimble shadow]

😂

[nimble shadow]

I just wasn’t sure if there was a yter that did a sponsored vid or some recently

[gilded ingot]

I was able to get my GPON Code and sip credentials, what else do I need to get other ONT working ?

I got the VLAN's as well

<VLANTerminations element-count="4" new-id="5">
    <VLANTermination uid="1">
        <Enable>true</Enable>
        <Alias>VLAN_DATA</Alias>
        <LowerLayers>Device/Ethernet/Links/Link[GPON_DATA]</LowerLayers>
        <VLANID>11</VLANID>
        <EgressPriorityMappings>11111111</EgressPriorityMappings>
    </VLANTermination>
    <VLANTermination uid="2">
        <Enable>true</Enable>
        <Alias>VLAN_VOIP</Alias>
        <LowerLayers>Device/Ethernet/Links/Link[GPON_VOIP]</LowerLayers>
        <VLANID>12</VLANID>
        <EgressPriorityMappings>55555555</EgressPriorityMappings>
    </VLANTermination>
    <VLANTermination uid="3">
        <Enable>true</Enable>
        <Alias>VLAN_IPTV</Alias>
        <LowerLayers>Device/Ethernet/Links/Link[GPON_TV]</LowerLayers>
        <VLANID>13</VLANID>
        <EgressPriorityMappings>33333333</EgressPriorityMappings>
    </VLANTermination>
    <VLANTermination uid="4">
        <Enable>true</Enable>
        <Alias>VLAN_SOFT_BRIDGE</Alias>
        <LowerLayers>Device/Ethernet/Links/Link[MNGT_SOFT_BRIDGE]</LowerLayers>
        <VLANID>111</VLANID>
        <EgressPriorityMappings>11111111</EgressPriorityMappings>
    </VLANTermination>
</VLANTerminations>

Would I even need anything else to setup other ONT (someone else on a forum said that they were able to do it but don't seem to respond, so I know that is possible to use other ONT at least with my ISP)

[errant verge]

hi, For custom email domain, should i have different provider NS or keep the registrar's unchanged ?

[gilded ingot]

I heard that if you are doing a personal email server, the reverse ip lookup(rDNS) has to point to your domain or else most of the time all your mail sent to other people gets sent straight to spam, and it has to bee all configured correctly, but 99% times not even worth it.
That and proper DMARC setup is like essential

[scenic ridge]

would usb to ethernet adapters work in pfsense?

[autumn ether]

Can I get a sanity check on my planned network upgrade (in stages)?

Some context:

• all the runs inside the house are CAT6E/CAT7 (yes I know it's not an official standard), terminated to RJ45
• during the first 2 upgrades, the ubiquiti switches will run in unmanaged "dumb" mode. I contacted ubiquiti, and they support that. Worst case I'll run a controller on one of the Pis.

[autumn ether]

I tried running my own, but even with perfect scores, I still ended up in spam. There was a long ranty (but fun to read) blogpost about it years ago with the TLDR being that it's not worth it, and that despite email being an open standard, only the big guys get to really play.

edit: found the blogpost: https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html it's definitely worth a read, explains all the issues with running your own mailserver well.

[pseudo blade]

Sure, if there's a driver for it. Best to check for the specific ones you want to buy or use.

I've heard of people who do this and it works for them

It's worth keeping in mind that some of these USB NICs are unreliable garbage

[silent flax]

holy hell, took Tuya some time, but finally they might actually not be horribly useless

damn, it actually worked

[thorn delta]

Do you already have the 7 google WiFi pucks? And last I checked they didn't support PoE unless you used a third party dongle. For what all that google stuff costs, I'd probably just suggest getting some Unifi U6 Lite APs if you're already looking to get into that ecosystem, then upgrade later once lower cost WiFi 7 comes out in a few years.

For your main switch I'd just recommend getting one with gigabit PoE ports and 4 SFP+. Run gigabit to all the APs, the office, and brother's PC, put the NASes (with SFP+ cards, you don't want too many of those 10G RJ45 adapters crowded together) and your 10G switch into those SFP+ ports.

[tribal sequoia]

i was not a fan of my u6 lite

imo the performance is too garbage compared to even stuff around the same price

[opal pagoda]

very nice, i had to go trough samsung smart things before

[silent flax]

it's not perfect, for now my smart plugs do not report voltage/current/power to HA yet, but that is a "business decision" in the integration for now, might change, who knows

https://github.com/tuya/tuya-smart-life/issues/47 the issue was closed without doing what was asked for, but they might fix it later ? who knows

but the main fuctionality is there. obviously goes through cloud, but on other side it is an official integration, no need to play around with local keys anymore and so on

[opal pagoda]

yea makes tuya much more usable

[silent flax]

it's literally just "add user code from the app to HA, then scan the QR code from HA in the Smart Life app, confirm login, done". Then i guess HA just does requests to the Tuya servers with that login (didn't read the code)

[autumn ether]

I already have the pucks, currently in mesh mode, hence their use. Poe to typeC adapters are 20$ each, much cheaper than the 200$ ubiquiti APs & Controllers 😛

[autumn ether]

But I want 10G at the office/my room/brother's room to have fast access to the NASes.

• the future Wifi7 APs are multi-gigabit as well, so they'll saturate the 1G connections

..
I was more asking whether it'll work, not whether it's a cost effective solution 😛 I know I can get cheaper stuff elsewhere, I just like the shiny things

[thorn delta]

Ah fair enough lol, I'd just avoid using those SFP+ 10G adapters where possible, and with WiFi 7 being fairly new I'd definitely wait a bit, and WiFi 7 may push forward some newer, interesting 2.5G / 10G options for switching

Even that version 1 would do well, though 7 APs is quite a lot so add them slowly and make sure you actually need them all, too many could cause some self interference