networking

[half turtle]

huh

[thick minnow]

static IP

[peak cloak]

You don't need a static IP

[thick minnow]

and its only for phone tho

[peak cloak]

Plus the ipv6 tunnel from HE requires your ipv4 IP pretty sure

[thick minnow]

my isp does not even provide static ip for my connection

[peak cloak]

What type of website is it

Why do you want to host it from home

[thick minnow]

i have dynamic ip but it changed like half a year ago idk we dont restart router often

[thick minnow]

html if you ask for this

example

or idk game server anything

[peak cloak]

All websites are html, like is it a static site? Php?

WordPress?

[thick minnow]

go with php

[peak cloak]

Pterodactyl?

[thick minnow]

iam just curious if i can use ipv6 on DSL

[peak cloak]

You can but ISP will need to set it up

They need to setup routing, peering, etc.

It's not a trivial task to deploy ipv6

[thick minnow]

they will most probably charge for it i guess but anyways some technic will come and redo our bridge i will ask him around this stuff

[peak cloak]

Dsl is just a transport method

[thick minnow]

wdym its kind of needed to switch to ipv6 its just harder to remember if able

if we have almost no ipv4 left

and cause of that we do charge people money

what is different between ipv4 equipment and ipv6 equipment at ISPs ?

[peak cloak]

The equipment needs to support it, it's dual stack

[thick minnow]

something like encoding and decoding ?

[peak cloak]

There still is ips left, just not at a IANA level

And they are traded and sold

[thick minnow]

too complicated words 😄

[thick minnow]

yes there are but how many

if milions..

[peak cloak]

IANA is the global organization that assigns ips to organizations to use

[peak cloak]

Hard to say, Africa has tons free

[thick minnow]

just read europe has zero

[peak cloak]

You can buy ipv4 blocks from others

[thick minnow]

well i live in central EU :/

[peak cloak]

Also cgnat exists

Which some ISPs do

[thick minnow]

i have that

yes i exactly know that weird "NAT" networking

its using subnets right ?

[peak cloak]

Everything uses subnets

Wdym

[thick minnow]

NAT

[peak cloak]

NAT translates a public IP(s) to an internal one(s)

[thick minnow]

cgNAT is just that it is ISP thing if i remember correctly

[thick minnow]

router does that

[peak cloak]

That's what cgnat does as well

Just on a carrier level, with some slight differences

[thick minnow]

and the reason is because of ipv4

[peak cloak]

Hopefully with v6 we can get rid of nat all together, but that's not happening for a while

[thick minnow]

if we used ipv6 from beginning nothing would exist like NAT

[peak cloak]

V6 didn't exist that the beginning

Neither did v4 technically

[thick minnow]

this part is the "dynamic" changing part right ?

where isp sets your ip

your "public" ip

[peak cloak]

Well you have a cgnat IP, can't port forward at all

[thick minnow]

so in final your public ip is yours ip of isp edge router

[peak cloak]

Yes, kinda

[thick minnow]

i know that for like 3 years now on 😄

[peak cloak]

Just clarifying, because you can have a dynamic public IP as well

[thick minnow]

so that dynamic ip adress chnges only on bridge disconnect from my router right ? as the router tries to connect again ISP provides me a new one

[peak cloak]

Wdym by bridge

[thick minnow]

idk its in router w8 sec

[peak cloak]

And usually yes, it's on disconnect but it's not always

[peak cloak]

Most ISPS use DHCP

[thick minnow]

this bridge

ah never mind

my bad i mean PPPoE

[peak cloak]

Yours uses PPPoE

[peak cloak]

A bridge in network terms is basically the functionaly of a switch

A switch is a bridge basically

[thick minnow]

hmm so they use some PPPoE servers right ?

[peak cloak]

Yes

[thick minnow]

wow so complicated for no reason

[peak cloak]

It's not for no reason

How else would it work

[thick minnow]

and PPPoE is the stuff that some random techic has to come and set it all for us

[peak cloak]

I guess?

You can do it yourself technically

Just need your PPPoE credentials

[thick minnow]

i have them

i mean when i set it up

for myself i just put some random ones and internet works fine from then 😄 working like this 2 years i guess 😄

[peak cloak]

For my ISP for first time setup you just go to their activation website, then login, which actives your line

Actual IP assignment to my router is just DHCP

[thick minnow]

dhcp uses that

lease time right ?

[peak cloak]

That's your DHCP server

Every device on your network uses DHCP to get thier IP

[thick minnow]

yes ik how dhcp works

[peak cloak]

But your router can also be a DHCP client, to get wan IP

[thick minnow]

what cant be dhcp client ?

[peak cloak]

Your ISP uses PPPoE

It all depends on their network architecture

The design of networks is a whole profession

[thick minnow]

dhcp works on something like they exchange MAC adresses with router and provide IP address to client so other clients and routing all requests are easier for the router right ?

[hollow marlin]

That's putting it lightly

[thick minnow]

i mean if they have milions of customers and they are supposed to enable ipv6 in one moment to everybody i guess it will put some load

[peak cloak]

Kinda? It just assigns IP and gives client some other info like gateway

It doesn't make routing easier

[peak cloak]

That's not really the problem

It's not a simple switch they can flip

Mynameisjuan knows a lot more but peering needs to be arranged, all core infrastructure has to be assigned v6s, firewalls, etc. It's a lot

[thick minnow]

and what is the biggest slow down on deploying v6

[rocky badge]

I kinda want to setup SPAN

[sleek oar]

yo can someone help me port forward my minecraft server? I've followed countless guides, and I think I have everything done correctly, but I'm still unable to connect to my external IP. Anyone knowledgeable on this?

I've even tried the process on two different versions of the minecraft servers. (vanilla and spigot), both work fine in terms of running the server locally, but no external ip connections are successful.

[hollow marlin]

Biggest reason for the delay is labor cost. Employee time spent just designing and deploying v6 is time not spent on other projects that have a direct impact on revenue. That's just how it is.

But as Present said, deploying v6 is not just a checkbox. Initial design take a significant portion of the time because it needs to be implemented correctly. Sure you may read "there's nearly unlimited IPv6 addresses", but that's the farthest from the truth.

When a design is proposed, then is farting around with various implementation of different vendors. v6 is over engineered which is good and bad. But because the standards include so many extensions each with their own interpretation, IPv6 is broken in many ways but still generally "works". Interop is the largest hurdle.

Then it's working on tying it all into internal systems (ex. billing, accounting, etc). When that mess is done, implementing the addressing and routing is simple.

There is a way more to it than that, but as someone who has implemented it in a provider network, I can say for certain that it's not as simple as people make it seem

[peak cloak]

You are trying to connect to your server from LAN using your WAN IP?

[sleek oar]

no, I'm trying to connect to my server from my external IP, so my friends can join it.

I've done it years ago

[peak cloak]

Yes but from what you are saying it seems like you are using your external IP, but you are connected to your network

[sleek oar]

but I can't seem to figure it out now, I have a feeling it might be a setting in my router I'm missing

[peak cloak]

That won't work, unless the router has NAT loopback enabled

Also called hairpin nat

[sleek oar]

any idea where I may find that in my router?

[peak cloak]

Some routers don't support it

You can just use lan server IP to connect

And give wan IP to others

[sleek oar]

that works?

[peak cloak]

It may be a feature in your router, but again, it depends

[peak cloak]

Yes

[sleek oar]

ok so what steps do I take

[peak cloak]

None? Just use the LAN IP of server to connect

[sleek oar]

right, but none of my friends can connect to it yet?

[peak cloak]

If you port forwarded they should be able to

[sleek oar]

that's what I'm saying

I think I did, but it doesnt seem to be working

[peak cloak]

Oh they can't connect?

[sleek oar]

nope

[peak cloak]

Oh, my bad I read it wrong thought the port checker said it was open

@sleek oar in your router look for something called wan IP or internet IP

What are the first 2 octets

[sleek oar]

not seeing that on my menu

im gonna DM you what I'm seeing

[waxen scroll]

lmao. idk if that will hold

hopefully two are in wood

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @peak cloak https://i.ryois.me/hp8bQOEW8u.png

I want to shutdown this VM and redeploy it but that uptime

[waxen scroll]

There's a warning for a reason

Patch it and reboot

[rocky badge]

This VM isn't even doing anything lol

It's just sitting there

[pseudo blade]

All the more reason to patch and halt/reboot

[rocky badge]

I'm gonna end up deleting it anyways

Welcome to Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-1057-azure x86_64)

[pseudo blade]

Bleh

Encountered a Nagios install on CentOS from 2014 yesterday that hasn't been patched since the day it was built

I asked, and the IT person said it was how they learned Linux and that it's unhackable

Can't have learned too much if you can't update packages

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/Y2rO2OTthU.png 👀

[earnest orchid]

can i add drives to a existing raid 5 array?

[pseudo blade]

Usually, but it depends on what raid controller you are using.

[warped shoal]

Anyone mind giving me an opinion, some ppl seems to be confused by my setup, but i dont see anything wrong here and it also works correctly are there anything thats really wrong here ? (I havent put back the cable manager cover so ignore that

[thick minnow]

a bit dusty

Sorry for that ping, android discord is weird

[warped shoal]

Yeah im aware of that dust thanks, but aside feom that everything seems to be correct ?

[thick minnow]

I think so

[warped shoal]

Thanks, so its just them

[faint bronze]

https://www.eiresystems.com/wp-content/uploads/0002-scaled.jpg
That is a collapsed core design and that is what you are probably using. No redundancy, but that isn't a worry because this isn't designed for a network fault. Not too many people want to go for a proper core design at home and for good reason. A proper core design is more for corporate networks and the like where you need that high uptime and can spend the money to have a core layout. In that design you have two internet connections routed two different ways with two different ISPs so that if someone accidentally breaks a cable that provides you internet you still have internet.
https://www.eiresystems.com/what-is-a-collapsed-core-network/#
Core pic
https://www.eiresystems.com/wp-content/uploads/0001-scaled.jpg

[thick minnow]

Lol, is this at your house?

My school has similar APs, made by Aruba. But they've got so many of them, I doubt it switches networks properly.

Like here is one right outside the classroom, and in the classroom

Then one in the hallway too

[waxen saddle]

What structure is between the classroom and hallway?

[opal pagoda]

we have cisco meraki-s in every single classroom (pretty sure they are mr52 but don't know for sure)

[thick minnow]

Brick wall, but there is still good signal inside

With the AP right outside the door

[full monolith]

nah lmao i would never be able to put screws like that in my ceiling

[thick minnow]

Lmao

[full monolith]

i wasnt even able to get a 6mm hole in there with a big ass machine

so much steal and shit in there

for now this is ok

untill i saved up for some beefy hardware

[full monolith]

this router was released in like 2013 or 2014 and still gets beta updates and new firmware releases

yea 2013

[gusty dove]

I just discovered something with some of those CenturyLink Modem/Router combos. If you have one with the gray LAN/WAN RJ45 port and you switch to a cable ISP you can still use it as a router (assuming you also buy your own modem) using that port.

Just tested it with my C2000T and I accidentally discovered that with my C3000Z too.

[thick minnow]

how a wireless access point doesnt have default gateway ? how can i configure it am i supposed to connect it with that "console" named connector which looks like s-video conector ?

[peak cloak]

wdym? a wireless access point just allows you to connect to wifi

it does not assign an IP address

or send a default gateway

that's the job of the dhcp server (usually on router)

[gusty dove]

If you turn off the DHCP server on any normal router (and any modem/router combo) and don't plug that "Router/AP" into another router with a DHCP server you will get the same result.

All an access point does is allow a device to connect to a connection that's already being routed through an ISP. The DHCP server is needed in order to have a base IP set for all the devices on the network to communicate along.

My explanation was probably bad but that's pretty much what I understand.

[peak cloak]

yeah kinda, just you need plug into LAN port instead WAN, since WAN -> LAN is natted

[thick minnow]

LMAO

But their stuff is all so basic

Overpriced too

[full monolith]

but atleast it works

you can littearly put one on a dsl or cable line now and it wil lstill work like now in 8 years

some people still have fritzboxes from 2009-2012 in use and they still go hard

[carmine moss]

fritzboxes sell quite well and last so they have a use consumers don't need more

[full monolith]

yea. sure people that use enterprise stuff or build all from scratch will miss things but you have so many features on that and normal people just dont need more.

and here in germany its littearly normal that every second or third person has a fritzbox

i even have my cable tv channels on there accessable over local network

thats something cool tho so tvs that support that dont even need a reciever or sat cable. just wifi and thats it

like 3 years ago i used a fritzbox 4020 that only has 2.4ghz for wifi in my school. there was times where over 150 people where using this wifi at the same time and it was working so fine

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @peak cloak https://www.reddit.com/r/3CX/comments/zriszg/no_more_free_3cx_on_premise_self_hosted_4sc_free

Really...

[thick minnow]

Also Fritz: wifi 6 for 30mbps DSL routers

Europe is stuck in 2000

[peak cloak]

rip

also

literally getting paid right now to do research on NFTs...

[rocky badge]

loll

[peak cloak]

had a meeting with a client, wants to make some website to mint NFTs...

[thick minnow]

well i have some random zyxel access point modem ? and i cant connect to it it makes the eth wire just Zyxel wifi with no password and no way how to config it

iam used to default gateway or some IP

[thick minnow]

Lte?

[peak cloak]

the default gateway for IP only works for routers since their IP is also the IP that traffic gets forwarded to, not the case with APs

look at the docs, there will be a default IP mentioned

[thick minnow]

i cant find any docs to this model

[peak cloak]

or hook it up to a router, it should try to get a IP from DHCP

then look in router's DHCP clients list to find it's IP

[thick minnow]

NWA3160-N

its some chineese stuff

[thick minnow]

can i hook it up to my second eth connector of my MB(pc) ?

[peak cloak]

yes and no

have you tried 192.168.1.2

[thick minnow]

i have permanently binded my

another AP

[peak cloak]

you also have to set the computer's IP and subnet to be within the APs subnet

[thick minnow]

okay w8 sec ill connect the zyxel to switch

btw does matter which connector on the switch i use there are 3 priority section (HIGH) (MEDIUM) and (NONE)

does this matter ?

[peak cloak]

wdym, that's just a status page, no?

[thick minnow]

its

that i adress reserved for .1.2 my AP

so will it interfere with the zyxel

default gateway ?

okay after reboot

w8 ? how there can be nothing in DHCP client when more then 3 devices are connected 😄 router is sloow 😄

well it took around 6 minutes to load 😄

well gg 192.168.1.2

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak if I had money...I would move my entire homelab to the cloud

[peak cloak]

I still wouldn't move everything

Local storage still

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/JmvDskzfTl.png

I can move everything except net-services

Unless I wanna move DNS to the cloud too

[peak cloak]

But rn all my homelab is, is jellyfin, occasional mc server, and nvr

[rocky badge]

Cloud would remove the need for vCenter

A lot of my services are directly on docker now

So its a matter of moving data and copying docker-compose to the cloud

[peak cloak]

I'm probably going to replace my er-x with the TP-Link omada router

It's DHCP server has been crashing

[thick minnow]

alr i managed to configure that zyxel AP so its working with my wifi network, thanks Present

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @clear igloo https://i.ryois.me/CEkF2cxS1s.png

Why isn't this enabled by default

[clear igloo]

Ummmm, because yes?

[peak cloak]

not a fan of push messages

at the same time putting in a code is phisable

if only there was more support for webauth

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/3ALV0H2nBw.png

@peak cloak https://i.ryois.me/CQYLP2ggQa.png

https://i.ryois.me/obuFDrP1c7.png

[peak cloak]

when duo was deployed there was so many complaints

imagine if it was only key

[full monolith]

No we used lan from the school

[rocky badge]

So many people here do SMS 2FA

and I was surprised IT allowed it

[peak cloak]

I mean duo has the whole call option

I'm suprised how many people still use the calling

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/YuZJn9C1j9.png

[static moat]

I thought 2 devices can't have the same mac adress? The 'unknown' are device connected to Coredy-WN300 which is a repeater connected to the main router that this interface is from

[peak cloak]

answer -> press 1

[rocky badge]

IT doesn't allow security key logins though

[peak cloak]

my local community college did, but whenever I used it I couldn't sign in into the college self service

[rocky badge]

rip

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak https://i.ryois.me/Ql6afjLH3j.png

I can reset my O365 MFA from our selfserv

which is interesting

I have to 2FA via phone to get into it anyways

I guess they setup app passwords to manage your account???

[peak cloak]

our college uses oracle sso

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/xn4EGNjSFw.png

[peak cloak]

self hosted I think

[rocky badge]

My uni uses Azure AD wherever possible

[peak cloak]

oracle access manager

they use oracle people soft which is basically the core of the uni's systems

[rocky badge]

rip

[waxen scroll]

My place uses RSA and okta

[peak cloak]

I think they are moving to okta

that was on the IT roadmap, move to cloud SSO

[clear igloo]

RIP, okta was hacked again the other day from what I heard

[rocky badge]

Yeah

their github repos were hacked

[clear igloo]

yup

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak https://www.etsu.edu/its/news/default.php

oh

the ERP is Oracle

https://i.ryois.me/w7EIPpXKDJ.png

and $800k/year

@clear igloo @peak cloak BRUH https://i.ryois.me/JaRz9d6tcL.png

A neighboring university lost ALL ON PREM

[clear igloo]

RIP!!

[rocky badge]

The university had 16 Windows 7 ESU licenses in 2021

[waxen scroll]

Wot

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge when are you going to visit Ramsey solutions

[rocky badge]

lol

[rocky badge]

@meager ginkgo https://www.ebay.com/itm/285030197099

How stupid is this

[meager ginkgo]

What's wrong with it? 😂

[rocky badge]

to buy for home 😂

replace us-48 and us-8-poe

[meager ginkgo]

You're replacing Ubiquiti?

[rocky badge]

I really want to

[meager ginkgo]

Any reasons out of curiosity

or just wanna try something different?

[rocky badge]

The unifi controller is pissing me off for switching

[meager ginkgo]

Have you looked into Omada

[rocky badge]

I don't want to

[meager ginkgo]

Fair.

[rocky badge]

Decent Cisco WiFi 6 APs are $360

[meager ginkgo]

don't you have to pay for a cisco license though

[rocky badge]

no

https://www.secureitstore.com/C9105AX.asp

EWC

[meager ginkgo]

👀

[rocky badge]

100 APs in the embedded wireless controller

2000 clients, 16 WLANs

[meager ginkgo]

That doesn't manage switches or anything I assume though right

[rocky badge]

Nope

[meager ginkgo]

Hmm

[rocky badge]

I haven't really cared about UniFi SDN tbh

Since I got my FortiGate

[meager ginkgo]

What's the performance like on the Cisco APs

[rocky badge]

Although FortiSwitches and FortiAPs are an option if wanted

More than my current WiFi 5 stuff

[meager ginkgo]

that's pretty good. wow

Yeah i've considered switching my UniFi APs out honestly

Was looking at Omada but their interface is kind of clunky

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[meager ginkgo]

and the APs look like bricks

🤮

[rocky badge]

Catalyst 9105AXI

● 1x 10/100/1000 Base-T (Ethernet) Uplink Interface
● Management console port (RJ-45)

posted the wrong one lol

if I wanted wall mounted it's 2.5GbE with the 3 1GbE ports

[meager ginkgo]

Seems like a good deal

no 2.5 gig port though

[rocky badge]

The next step up is $690 with 2.5GbE with 4x4

[meager ginkgo]

these things are massive

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[meager ginkgo]

I can't imagine those on my ceiling 💀

one of them probably wouldn't even fit and end up hitting the wall in my upstairs hallway

💀

[rocky badge]

LMAO

[meager ginkgo]

looks like a thick laptop holder

[rocky badge]

I am looking for a quote with 1x C9105AXI-B, 1x C9115AXI-B, 1x C9124AXI-B for not for resale internal lab usage.

I wonder what WLC my university has

[waxen saddle]

Ruckus seemed appealing to me in the past - at least for its handling of multicast.

[sonic notch]

Does the Flex Mini have PoE out?

And why are PoE injectors/switches so freaking expensive

[rocky badge]

Flex Mini doesn't have PoE out

[sonic notch]

Rip, guess I'll have to stock up on injectors lol

[thick minnow]

You should've downloaded 1TB files smh. I always download 1TB files when I'm using the school computers

Gotta make sure their ISP gets mad 👍

[ocean pivot]

I used to download over 6tb per month and my ISP didn't even care lol

[thick minnow]

Mine may slow me down temporarily if I use more than 5TB, because it's LTE and it has a fair use policy [its not enforced]

I've tried it before

But usually I use 2TB/month

[ocean pivot]

Mine is fiber, I work with remote teams for video editing, so sometimes it gets up there

[thick minnow]

Which fiber provider is it?

[ocean pivot]

Frontier

[thick minnow]

Oh okay

Is it symmetrical?

[ocean pivot]

yeah 2g

[thick minnow]

Great

[ocean pivot]

I get up to like 2500 down and usually like 1800 up

[thick minnow]

Nice. Is it capable of 10G?

[subtle estuary]

How we use like 500-700gb/month on a family of 4 but this doesn't count ethernet use for some reason so maybe closer to 1tb/month with all of our ehternet devices.

[thick minnow]

I'm the only one using my internet. My parents use a separate internet plan and router

So i use more than them combined😁

[thick minnow]

What kind of router is this?

[subtle estuary]

Why do you have 2 different internet plans ?

[subtle estuary]

It's a deco m5 mech system nothing special but it works for a 3 storey house.

[thick minnow]

I want to have my own

[thick minnow]

Yes

[subtle estuary]

Not even sure what that android 2 device is that consumed over 200gb data is.

[full monolith]

Old coax house transfer point

[thick minnow]

Breitbandanschluß😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[thick minnow]

Translate pls

[tribal flax]

Hey guys, so next year I was planning on starting my own homelab since I'm moving out and I have made a list of things I want. I found two servers: HP ProLiant DL380 G6 Server with Xeon E5520, 32GB of RAM and 1x300GB + 2x460GB storage config, ideally this would be the game + extras server. Then I found a similar ProLiant but it's a DL380 G7 with two Xeon X5670's and 120GB of RAM but no storage (but I was thinking of putting 32TB in it - Seagate IronWolf 4TB each). However since this second server will be Plex + Storage + Web Host / staging maybe I don't need that much RAM so I'm thinking that if I can transfer the RAM so it's 96GB on the game one and leave this one with 64GB. Would this be optimal setup, I want to unRAID both of them to make my life simpler (even tho i've never touched unRAID ). Plus I will have gigabit fiber and I'll use Ubiquiti equipment (Switch 8 + Cloud Key gen2). The software I was thinking of using is Plex, Minecraft Server, Terraria Server, TF2 Server, Web Server (Nginx, PHP, MySQL), Discord Bot with Node.js and maybe Home Assistant??

Is this a generally good homelab? I want to go all in, and it isn't gonna be cheap

[carmine moss]

Get at least Xeon e5 v1/v2 servers they should not be a lot more money but save on your power bill if you really want to get something better get Xeon e5 v3/v4 those are the first generation ddr4 servers also recommend using proxmox on them and for Nas use truenas you want to get if you get an e5 v1/v2 system you want to use the e5 2667v2 for a game server as it's the highest clocked CPU with 8 cores it's a close to first gen ryzen

[tribal flax]

there is a fujitsu RX300 S8 one with a xeon e5-2620v2 16gb of ram and a 4x1tb + 2x146gb config

[carmine moss]

Also hp is bad as you can't update the bios on their old servers pre the g9 as need to pay money

[tribal flax]

for the media stuff I just want smooth 4K

[tribal flax]

do i need to update the bios?

yeah there aren't many e5 v3 or v4 servers on the market

and if they are they are wayyyyyyy out of the budget

[carmine moss]

You should if you get a system update it to the latest bios as it has security fixes

[tribal flax]

tbh im not super hooked on security, it'll mostly be served in house

[carmine moss]

As servers have an ipmi for management tho all brands use different names for management

[tribal flax]

also no e5-2667v2 on the market

[carmine moss]

You buy those from eBay or AliExpress they are like 70 a cpu

[tribal flax]

im not looking for like enterprise extreme grade hardware, right now i have an i5-6400 computer that is used as a server and it's sluggish (hard drive is 10 years old lmao)

so these two would be a nice upgrade imo

[carmine moss]

It's just the g6 and g7 of hp aren't worthwhile they use too much power for what they are and miss features on the CPU's

[tribal flax]

eh electricity isn't super expensive here

[carmine moss]

They get destroyed even at refurbishment places the g6 and g7 systems

[peak cloak]

Both servers are too old

G8 at oldest to be worth it

Ideally g9

Also unRAID

[carmine moss]

The Fujitsu system you said is a better buy tho depends on the price of it

[tribal flax]

well here are the prices so you tell me

G6: 150 euros
G7: 500 euros (no drives)

the fujitsu is 250 euros

also power is cheap

[carmine moss]

It's just you should upgrade the ram and the CPU in it as the 2620v2 can't run game servers

[tribal flax]

can't?

[carmine moss]

Get the Fujitsu buy a 2667v2 and some more ram should be better and cheaper then the g7

It can just not recommend as slow clock speeds

[peak cloak]

@tribal flax why not just buy a older business desktop like an optiplex

[carmine moss]

Most games want high single core speeds for sure Minecraft for servers but also other games

[peak cloak]

That's what I use

[tribal flax]

[peak cloak]

?

[tribal flax]

nah i want servers like real enterprise stuff

i like the LOUDness

[peak cloak]

Problem is a g6 and g7 are junk

Idk anything about Fujitsu

[clear igloo]

R630 or R640 are nice if you want 2.5" drives
R730 should be good for 3.5" drives

[clear igloo]

plus you can manually control the fan speeds on those dell servers, idk about the HP ones

[tribal flax]

what the hell

[carmine moss]

Yeah don't get that at all that's not useful at all

[tribal flax]

yep hyperthreading, yikes

there is a g8 with e5-2630 but only one cpu for 250euro

[carmine moss]

I would say dell and supermicro are the 2 best brands to get then Lenovo/Fujitsu

[tribal flax]

wow hp bad?

[carmine moss]

Hp is good for g9 and newer but old stuff is nah

[peak cloak]

HP is not great for after market

Lots of stuff is locked behind paywalls

[carmine moss]

Yeah no bios updates and if you want them pay them 1000 for a support contact

[tribal flax]

damn these g8 and g9s are expensive yIKES

[peak cloak]

Not really

[clear igloo]

Yah, the Dell stuff is available without a support contract

[peak cloak]

1000 isn't that much

[tribal flax]

well here they really are and there are so few of them

[tribal flax]

1.3k used referbd

[clear igloo]

in homelab context it is for the support contract alone

[waxen saddle]

The tricky part with server-class hardware is that it’s a realm of specialized computing. The moment you want to expand or try something you didn’t plan for, it’s trickier to do.
For me, I have a $300 desktop computer and I didn’t plan for this, but decided to do real-time video encoding for Jellyfin. Bought a $200 NVIDIA GPU and I was good to go. That GPU won’t fit in a 2u chassis though.

[tribal flax]

jesus christ the entire market is dominated by hp

[peak cloak]

No?

Or in your area?

[tribal flax]

my area

there is a poweredge r710 with two x5670 xeons and 128gb ram

[peak cloak]

^

[peak cloak]

Too old

Rx20 at least

[clear igloo]

Yup, the x20 and up are great 🙂

[carmine moss]

Bargain hardware if you don't have import tax from the UK Even with tax it's not bad tho upgrade it yourself with CPU's and ram from eBay. AliExpress is also fine for cpu's

[tribal flax]

THE PRICES OUCH

there's like 1 supermicro server, that's it and it's like 8k

;-; i might have to hp it

ok but fr why are the G6 and G7 💩

like the processors score nicely on passmark and have nice core count

plus they seem to have nice speeds

[peak cloak]

Old af

[tribal flax]

so? i mean that shouldn't hurt the performance too much right?

[carmine moss]

They are junk for the power

Even a ryzen first generation is better then that Xeon generation

[tribal flax]

like slow performance or too much electricity?

[carmine moss]

Both it just not worth it too much electricity for the performance

And missing CPU features

for a 24/7 server they are not worth it they are only good for a toy 8 hours with in the weekend systems now

[thick minnow]

Bc poor country

[earnest orchid]

can i replace the router modem combo sent by isp?

[earnest orchid]

isp is pccw btw

[peak cloak]

Depends

Is it fiber? Cable? Dsl?

[earnest orchid]

fiber

[waxen scroll]

Why should I switch from plex

[sudden kayak]

depends on the setup. if the actual fiber goes directly into the combo modem/router, probably not. if you have some kind of ONT and then ethernet into your router you should be able to

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge are you on Plex?

[sudden kayak]

isn't plex the one that's self hosted but you still have to pay a subscription for a cloud component that keeps having security issues?

[waxen scroll]

Yep but mine works fine with no sub

[sudden kayak]

hmm personally just the fact that that's their business model would make me look for an alternative

but if that doesn't bother you i don't have any other big reasons to switch lol

fwiw i use jellyfin and it's awesome

but i haven't compared first hand with plex

[waxen saddle]

Well, I wasn’t necessarily suggesting that. What I was going for was that in a home-lab environment, flexibility is a key factor. If you’re running “production” services, don’t treat it like a home lab.

[waxen scroll]

I know. I changed the subject

[waxen saddle]

Oh gotchya.

Love Jellyfin by the way. I run it in a docker container and keep my media on a separate NAS. NVIDIA card can transcode up to 16 streams in near real-time. It’s lacking a true AppleTV app, and though you can get the beta app, “swiftfin” through TestFlight (which I have), apparently they keep maxing out their developer-allowed installations.

[full monolith]

Its still capsble of the 1000/50 we get max here

[pseudo blade]

I owned a DL380 G5 and G6 and they were space heaters more than computers 5 years ago, they were awful for home use - get a set of SSDs for your i5 and you'll get a machine that's cooler, quieter and less temperamental. For my last job I was using an 12th gen i7 optiplex with nvme to run a lab with a DC, ELK, redundant app and DB servers and it just sipped power, literally a tenth of what you'd waste idling older server hardware

[thick minnow]

Yeah

[pseudo blade]

I have a ML350 Gen9 sitting under my breakfast bar I simply can't justify powering up because my other systems offer enough brawn for less power/I need more bandwidth than I can get in my house anyways

[thick minnow]

My European shithole country doesn't even have real fiber in 99% of places

[carmine moss]

You can't complain if you have seen the EU fiber chart legit so low fiber is were I live not even 15% is fiber

[pseudo blade]

I got it free so I don't feel too bad about it

[thick minnow]

South Africa has more fiber than Austria.

[pseudo blade]

Try Australia

[thick minnow]

Australia is just as much of a joke as Austria

[clear igloo]

My home lab has more fiber than Australia 😛

[thick minnow]

Still, Australian 5G speeds are faster than any crap we have in Austria

[thick minnow]

This is just ookla Median

Switch to average

[pseudo blade]

No, it's unrepresentative

[carmine moss]

Last report had Australia at 35% for home installed fiber

[pseudo blade]

Yeah no

35.5% FTTN

AKA VDSL

[thick minnow]

https://tyler-will.shutoffyourinter.net/📸/vszmrq1w.png

[thick minnow]

FTTN is ass

[clear igloo]

It's ALWAYS FTTN

[thick minnow]

https://tyler-will.shutoffyourinter.net/📸/g1i20d4x.png Here is the failed WEF puppet state

A1 has a speed cap of 300mbps on all their 5G plans. A1 Bulgaria is capable of gigabit.

[carmine moss]

Still better then 12% tho most people here pay for packages with a 250gb datacap even for like 50 euro

[thick minnow]

https://tyler-will.shutoffyourinter.net/📸/e5o30b0p.png and of course, the German company Magenta is the slowest

[pseudo blade]

I can tell you that a good portion of my country can neither obtain (FTTN drops speed fast) or afford (100mbps plans here are pricy AF) high speed internet

[thick minnow]

LMAO, what country

[thick minnow]

Damn, that sucks

[carmine moss]

Belgium it's really expensive internet here

[pseudo blade]

And a few kids on 10 gigabit at universities will not change this

[thick minnow]

Belgium has the lowest 5G coverage in Europe, and the slowest speeds too.

Belgium can't do anything right though, so I'm not surprised.

https://tyler-will.shutoffyourinter.net/📸/lai0kbpm.png

[pseudo blade]

For as long as they don't get sued for blatantly misleading advertising they will keep doing it

[full monolith]

bruh what the fuck

[thick minnow]

In Austria they sell DOCSIS 3.1 as Fiber

[pseudo blade]

The word "fiber" does not go anywhere near VDSL

[carmine moss]

If you want good speeds here your on doxis also marked as fiber in the past but now that there is a bit of real fiber they don't

[pseudo blade]

At least DOCSIS can hit gigabit

[thick minnow]

And it's not guaranteed

[pseudo blade]

It never is

[thick minnow]

It depends on the usage of ppl around you.

[full monolith]

juat calculate how many people to put on a line to hit the gigabit or faster and its good

docsis suffers just from too many people using the same line

and if this would get fixed it could be way faster

[carmine moss]

It's stupid a phone provided sells VDSL as fiber and they use the modem of another isp that has been here for years with a sticker over the logo

[thick minnow]

I swear, I will rip all their DSL shit out one day

and will rip LTE b20 off of all cell towers

If they keep being lazy.

[carmine moss]

In the past they had the other isp logo in their marketing they are trying to disrupt the market but can't

[pseudo blade]

The local cell with 10k people on it stopped being able to handle calls 1km from the cell this week

It was barely holding on as it was but adding on people showing up for Christmas was too much

[full monolith]

i really need to iunstall docsis load monitor before christmas and new year

[carmine moss]

Also as a business you need to use bridge mode on the biggest isp as no modem only units exist anymore

[full monolith]

so i can monitor our docsis load on the whole line

[thick minnow]

I can just slow down all budget plan users on my cell tower

So I don't care about the load on it

I will slow down everyone else anyway.

Unless someone does the same thing that I'm doing.

[full monolith]

idc about it because i have fear of it beeing to much used whatever i just wanna see how much traffic people do

[thick minnow]

Probably not a lot

200mbps probably

[full monolith]

never that low

would be weird af

idk how many people there are on my line but its prob alot

https://github.com/sp4rkie/docsis-cable-load-monitor

[thick minnow]

I live like 100km away from any docsis

The government buildings have 1gbps fiber but I will show them soon what they (wont) have if they continue like this.

[full monolith]

you cant do anything anyways lmao

[thick minnow]

I mean people will riot anyway when the power goes out.

So it will go unnoticed if I do a bit of government trolling.

[sacred moon]

Is there any sort of recommended tier lists for modems?
I bought a new router to get away from the comcast provided xfi gateway thing, but trying to hook it up was a doozy. Couldn't end up getting it to work and even when I set the comcast modem to bridge mode it continued to put out the wifi signal from before (which I thought would go away). May as well cut my losses and replace it altogether and no longer have to rent the damn thing.

or is this question better suited for a different channel?

[full monolith]

is your internet cable?

like fiber, dsl or cable

cause if its cable and your at a gig speed or less i would get a technicolor tc4400

if its fiber idk and if its dsl i would get a vigor167

[sacred moon]

i've got fiber currently

1.2gbps i believe

[full monolith]

oh ok so i cant help you lmao

i dont have expirience with fiber internet at home

[sacred moon]

no sweat, thanks anyways

its gig speed anyways so maybe that technicolor one would work

[full monolith]

thats cable modem doesnt has fiber

i just looked up a fiber modem some local german fiber isps use where i live and that is prob a good one:
https://www.qnap.com/de-de/product/qhora-301w

it also has 10g for future proofing

if it ever gets faster

you prob have to change the website to english

[sacred moon]

isn't that a 2 in 1?

I got an asus RT-AX86U router, i just need the modem half

or maybe what you linked is just a router

[full monolith]

Oh lol didnt realize

Sorry

[sacred moon]

no sweat

i actually snagged this gundam model one lmao

(no gundam figure included)

$180, while the lowest i could find the regular edition was $200. Apparently it had a price increase from $250 to $280

[full monolith]

Looks cool

Im building my docsis load monitor now

[thick minnow]

This is very German

[thick minnow]

Is that a "gaming" router

[meager ginkgo]

Comcast only has 6gbps fiber not 1.2gbps fiber

you are on cable

https://www.amazon.com/ARRIS-Surfboard-S33-Multi-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B08FMSC5WZ/

I'd recommend this modem- you can find it cheaper used

[sacred moon]

is there some nomenclature difference where fiber doesn't actually mean fiber?

[sacred moon]

thats how it pitches itself, its a pretty highly rated router though

[thick minnow]

Does it have SQM at least?

Or a few QoS settings

[sacred moon]

I don't know what either of those are

[sacred moon]

is there a fundamental difference between fiber and cable modems? guessing it's a connection difference

[meager ginkgo]

Yes, fiber usually connects with well fiber. Cable uses a coax connection.

An optical network terminal converts the fiber to a ethernet connection- that is basically the equivalent of a cable modem. Usually the ISP provides the ONT and it can't be changed.

if you have this going into your modem you have a coax/cable connection

[sacred moon]

Maybe i just assumed it was because of the speed. I'll be moving in about a month so maybe I'll hold out until then and see what internet I'll have there.

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah that's probably best. Look at https://highspeedinternet.com/ and see what shows up for the zip code

then you can go to their websites and enter the address and see what plans are available

[sacred moon]

i had centurylink fiber before but had to switch after they dropped the ball on installation

that one im reasonably certain was fiber lol

[meager ginkgo]

Oof. What did they do that you left? lol

[sacred moon]

I moved two years ago and myself and the others in the house were all working from home, so before I moved I was like "I need the internet ready to go on this date at this location" and then when I moved they said "actually it'll be like 2-3 weeks" so I went with what would give me internet sooner, and that was comcast.

sure enough lol

i actually really liked centurylink's fiber, very stable and consistent. Comcast was decent for the first year but since then it has been an intermittent connection that drops 1-2 times per day for a few minutes at a time. Sure sucks when you're in a call/meeting and your internet shits the bed.

maybe comcast being cable is why it feels so much less reliable

i do remember my past house having a white box outside, that must be the ONT you mentioned

or part of it or something

which is also stupid because centurylink fiber was cheaper!

[rocky badge]

Yeah

I use Plex

[full monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/tmobile-logo-telecom-carrier-provider-gif-12541183

[thick minnow]

Nahh

[full monolith]

Yea

100%

Telekom rules germany nothing better

[thick minnow]

O2

[meager ginkgo]

Oh yeah. If you can wait for the install, fiber is the way to go..

[sacred moon]

thanks for making me realize I didn't have it all this time lmao, I'll definitely switch back to fiber when I move. Guess I saw the speed was 1 gig and assumed it was, does explain the coax.

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah, no problem lol. You'll enjoy the higher upload and lower ping 😛

[plucky quarry]

Today i got this notification on my deco units is it something I should be worried about or just ignore it

[waxen scroll]

Yeah because your upload is shot

[full monolith]

@thick minnow this served wifi for half of my old school lmao

[sudden kayak]

that is not at all normal... they should fix that asap for no charge if you let them know

DM me pls and I can try to help

[sacred moon]

I've talked to them a few times, as I say elsewhere though I'm moving in about a month so it's all under the bridge at this point. Appreciate the offer though!

[sudden kayak]

weird. it's possible whoever they sent out just couldn't track down the problem, but if everything worked as intended, they really should have just kept escalating until somebody could fix it. if you're moving then hopefully you'll have better luck at the next spot

[rocky badge]

At my old high school we would have APs in every room because the entire building was cinder block. A typical phone hotspot wouldn't penetrate multiple rooms. A phone hotspot in the room over would be like -70dBm. The APs did better jobs of penetrating the walls but they also purposefully turned down the power on the APs so you were basically on the AP in the specific room.

And they finally upgraded to WiFi 6 so it's way better now as well, especially for 2.4

[sudden kayak]

i mean if you really have an AP in every single room that's the ideal situation

[rocky badge]

Roaming was really good

[sudden kayak]

but if you don't then... oof

[rocky badge]

The way the high school was laid out it was perfect for an AP in every room

[sudden kayak]

yeah mine was pretty similar

[rocky badge]

Then APs every so often in the hallways

https://i.ryois.me/o0sPM630DX.png

Actual classrooms were in the "pods"

2 floors

Each pod had 6 classrooms

[sudden kayak]

for a while it was pretty terrible but when they realized laptops & wifi were the future of educational technology, they stopped trying to save money and just did APs in every room

mine was a very similar layout actually lol

[rocky badge]

So each pod had 12 APs per floor for a total of 24 APs per pod

[sudden kayak]

you wouldn't believe the shit i found in those drop ceilings

[rocky badge]

Each pod had a 4 48 port switch stack though.

Cams, APs, data ports

[sudden kayak]

sometimes literal shit. from mice.

[rocky badge]

ew

in the drop ceiling is a ton of conduit for fiber, CAT6, and fire

[sudden kayak]

you learn very quickly how to lift a ceiling tile so the detritus falls away from your face

[rocky badge]

Plus electrical in more conduits

[sudden kayak]

y'all had fiber?!!

[rocky badge]

Yeah

each switch stack has 40G or 10G going to it from core

[sudden kayak]

yeah we had fiber trunk lines but all the individual wings & classroom areas were copper iirc

granted this was like 8-10 years ago?

hopefully they've modernized since

[rocky badge]

Switch stack feeding fine arts wing

That fiber media converter on top with orange fiber is for the fiber to the football stadium

And that old enterasys switch 2nd from the top (silver and black) has been upgraded to Extreme

There are no more Enterasys switches in the network, only Extreme now.

@sudden kayak Each school comes back to the high school via fiber into a 10G switch

[full monolith]

my school littearly is at wifi ac 20mhz channel width

and they wonder why the wifi is dying so much when they use one channel for littearly the entire school

[rocky badge]

Yeah they limit 2.4 and 5 GHz at 20mhz

But that's because they have all 5ghz spread across all channels

[full monolith]

yea that makes sense

but my school is littarly 100% on channel 36

nothing else only 36

and we dont even need to start talking about 2.4ghz lol

[rocky badge]

My university is overkill/planned well on wireless though

[full monolith]

i live in germany so wifi in schools is like they found out about wifi last week

[rocky badge]

@full monolith

[full monolith]

nice

my school slowly starts using unifi aps but they still dont change wifi settings...

idk what those people are that do this bullshit

[rocky badge]

In the dining hall they have an AP every 12 ceiling tiles

And they're good APs too

[full monolith]

nice

[rocky badge]

Cisco Catalyst WiFi 6

[full monolith]

my school be like: 30 people using the wifi on one ap= wifi is dead

[rocky badge]

With tons of clients and people in the area I can still get like 300Mbps

[full monolith]

this is awsome

the problem is

my school is build so you dont have any mobile signal inside

so you littearly need to use the wifi because you would not even have mobile internet then

[rocky badge]

rip

[full monolith]

outside the school i get like 500-700mbps 5G NSA but littearly 1m inside the school you have 0 bars

the only thing that gets signal is my mobile netgear m1 router that i put to the window and get around 50mbits download

so my class even gets a bit of usable internet

[rocky badge]

The only part of uni I don't cellular is in the underground portions lol

[full monolith]

Even the window glass is build so no signal can enter the building lmao

I littearly get like 2bars of 4g+ directly on the window on 1800mhz

You dont even want to know the ping and jitter

[lone sun]

🤔 Got a question about MOCA. So I know my modem can do Moca, but what else do I need to connect my ethernet cable to coax for this device in the link? Do I just plug the two cables into it or are splitters and such required?
https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-ScreenBeam-Network-Adapter-Ethernet/dp/B08ML1TSXC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=moca+adapter&qid=1671763356&sprefix=moca+ad%2Caps%2C105&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyVVFKOE0xT1hXRU42JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDI4MzUyM0VRTzFSRjdCOEFFRSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwOTY4NjI0M0hRS1pFVzgyNkVZTiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll I did a stupid and setup duo https://i.ryois.me/2NC4m6aiNw.png lol

[sonic notch]

Does anyone have a stupid easy and cheap Omada system they can recommend? I've only used Unifi

Need 2 APs with Wi-Fi 5 + I don't have a Raspberry or anything to act as a controller

[sudden kayak]

i mean it's kinda one system already

[sonic notch]

Also, is Omada as easy to use as Unifi to set up and whatnot?

[sudden kayak]

ER605, their controller box, they have maybe two or three price points of APs

[sonic notch]

Yee but what I mean are AP/controller recs

What's the AC/U6-Lite or NanoHD equivalent

[sudden kayak]

that's what i mean, there are like 3 models in the system & just buy the one that meets your requirements

probably EAP620

[sonic notch]

Is the 605 a switch+router+firewall?

+controller?

[peak cloak]

Just a router with firewall, I guess yes there's a switch in there too technically

[sudden kayak]

everything but controller yeah

i mean, i wouldn't recommend using it like a switch

[peak cloak]

Probably going to pick up the 605 myself

[sonic notch]

605 is kinda expensive tbh for what I need these for

[peak cloak]

Er-x is crashing sometimes and I just need something that works

Isn't it like 60 bucks?

What do you need it for

[sudden kayak]

i set up my parents' place with the ER605, SG2008P (8 port switch, i think 4 port PoE), and 3 of the EAP620s

i ran the controller on an old raspi which i kinda regret, not worth it once you account for a power supply, case, etc unless you already have it lying around

[sonic notch]

Basically my goal is to fix my friend's Wi-Fi coverage issues for as cheap as possible

Same with my sister's

[peak cloak]

Don't need the 605 then

[sudden kayak]

oh yeah hmm

[peak cloak]

Just APs

[sudden kayak]

if you're just fixing up the wifi, just use their existing router combo box and turn off its wifi radio

and grab the omada APs

you don't need a controller for that

[peak cloak]

Not even controller is strictly needed

[sonic notch]

How would I change bands and whatnot tho

[peak cloak]

On the AP

[sonic notch]

WHAT

[sudden kayak]

the APs still have just a web interface

[peak cloak]

Unlike unifi, the APs have a web interface

[sonic notch]

wth

What about meshing

[peak cloak]

That's what I use for the 1 ap I have

[sonic notch]

In case I need to do that

[sudden kayak]

the controller is just if you want a single dashboard to do fancy software defined networking where you can change the network topology and see usage across the whole thing like for a small business

hmm I'm not sure the omada APs actually do mesh natively

[peak cloak]

What you think of meshing isn't meshing, it's roaming I think

[sonic notch]

Nono I mean actual wireless meshing

[peak cloak]

Like having 1 SSID with multiple APs?

[sonic notch]

Like having an AP act as a middleman between a client and a wired AP

[sudden kayak]

if you mean wireless backhaul with an AP you can't wire in.. the honest answer is that it probably won't actually help speed very much

better than nothing but if you know you'll have a spot where you absolutely can't hardwire it... maybe just go for one centrally located AP

[peak cloak]

Yeah, depending on the placement it can help a little but it's far from optimal. Meshing can be done only with controller

[sudden kayak]

like the EAP660 or something (kinda like their equivalent of the unifi long range APs)

[sonic notch]

Ye hopefully I can but the house I'm working with has a high ceiling

So I might just have to mount an AP to a wall or something

[sudden kayak]

wall mount should be fine

[peak cloak]

You can just put it on a table or cabinet as well

[sudden kayak]

also go with PoE then you just have one cable

looks a lot cleaner for a wall or ceiling mount

[peak cloak]

Yeah

[sonic notch]

Oh you gave me an idea

I can wall mount both on the same wall but on different floors

Is that gonna cause issues with too much overlap?

I'm looking at the EAP 225 and 245s rn, those good?

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak Would it be extreme to VLAN off my PKI network

[thick minnow]

Haha, nice

How much did that thing cost you back then?

[thick minnow]

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/8930659808 5G UC already exists in Europe [5G Ultra Congestion]

[full monolith]

Like 40 or 50€ lmao

[thick minnow]

[full monolith]

Its such a bad deal but i swear it was saving us all from suffering lol

Even the teachers used it because it was better then the wifi they used where we had no access

[thick minnow]

Did the school have no LTE indoors?

[hushed star]

maybe it had terrible reception

the high school I went to had that issue

[thick minnow]

My high school has that issue on one carrier that avoids low band lte

https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/8930801481 magenta rn

[full monolith]

They had but in 7. Grade or smth you dont have unlimited date or shit else so littearly no one could use lte lmao

I littearly had like 2.5gb mobile data back then

[thick minnow]

Damn bruh. I had like 2GB on A1 when I was 9 or 10

A stupid pre paid sim card

3G data but my town only has 2G

[full monolith]

for us it wasnt even that bad. we had already like 100mbps download on lte but my sim card wasnt supporting lte yet so i was chillin on 3g with like 18mbps

[thick minnow]

I live in a rural area so it was bad until 2015. If I went to the larger town I could get LTE, 3G and 2G. Lte speeds were around 150mbps

I had an iPhone 4 though. It didn't support 4G LTE

[full monolith]

its actually crazy how good my city was doing lte tho

like my city is not even 4k people

and now we have 4 cell towers with the latest one going online in a bout 2 months

n78 tho

[full monolith]

best ping i had so far

[thick minnow]

Wow

[full monolith]

our cmts is like less then 80m cable lenght from my house entrance

so yea not even 100m coax then fiber

[full monolith]

wtf did i do there lmao

[thick minnow]

Incompetent European ISP failing to provide N78 all over Austria after 3 years.

Meanwhile 3AT (100% owned by CK hutchison holdings, Hong Kong): N78 SA + NR CA all over Austria

Wait till they realize people don't want useless n28 20mhz that is barely faster than the 3CA LTE towers it requires to work in the first place.

[full monolith]

Be happy what u have lol imagine living in belgium

[thick minnow]

Thank god I'm not anywhere near Belgium 🙏. I'm very thankful for that.

[full monolith]

Lmao same hahahahaha

[thick minnow]

https://tyler-will.shutoffyourinter.net/📸/13gl2ia2.png Something Europeans will never see on their phones because they avoid mmWave at all costs.

Italy apparently has mmWave but I've never seen anyone talk about it, or use it. Italian phones don't have mmWave bands.

[hollow marlin]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll Troubleshooting a Cisco ME3400 buffers, I am reminded how much I despise IOS' QoS configuration format 🤮

[waxen scroll]

Try doing COPP

[hollow marlin]

I never actually got around to working with it in IOS. I would hope it's less of a PITA

[thick minnow]

Hey guys! I'm new to Networking. Can y'all suggest me some tutorials where I can learn about networking?

[thick minnow]

German network is so strong that Russia may not be able to break it down

[thick minnow]

What exactly about networking?

😅

[clear igloo]

lol, nested QoS ftw!

[thick minnow]

I wanna learn networking.

I can tell you a LOT about networking on phones

[hollow marlin]

Juniper CoS - "Every interface gets 100-125ms of buffer. Want more? Deep buffers are bad, deal with it".

Makes the configuration and tshooting so much simpler.

While I just gave up on Cisco docs on ME3400s and how best to allocate bufferspace on their pathetic queue depths

[clear igloo]

lol, queue is fun /s

[thick minnow]

So fancy they got 4.5G 😳😱😱

[hollow marlin]

Granted these are ancient and on IOS 12.

Has configuration improved much on recent XE/NXOS versions?

[clear igloo]

Oh wow, yah that's ancient, it's improved a good bit

[full monolith]

wtf

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/zt67af/this_is_why_i_recommend_ubiquiti_routers_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

🤣 the comments

[waxen scroll]

lmao

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/0mpJMszCz3.png

imagine not patching

[dim delta]

every 6 months ≠ THREE YEARS

[rocky badge]

on site I patch/update immediately

remotely it depends

[sonic notch]

This is weird considering how T-Mobile US is the only carrier here with usable 5G

[rocky badge]

Verizon has very usable 5G

[sonic notch]

Wait since when

[rocky badge]

Since 2020 at least ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sonic notch]

No shot

[dire osprey]

at&t's 5g is a joke lol

[sonic notch]

By usable I mean good mid-band coverage

[rocky badge]

Yes

[sonic notch]

I thought Verizon didn't have enough midband until the most recent auction??

[rocky badge]

5G has been fine and I've been getting mid band in a lot of places ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sonic notch]

I've been getting mid-band outside of major cities

[rocky badge]

Meanwhile T-Mo isn't that great according to friends who are on T-Mo here which is funny

[sonic notch]

T-Mo is great when it isn't complete garbage lol

[rocky badge]

no service indoors, no mid band, no mmwave, slow speeds, high latency

[sonic notch]

They got mid-band now

[rocky badge]

in the same spot I can get good service from verizon

[sonic notch]

Before 5G/Sprint merger it was barely useable

Idk now I get p good service except for this one spot in my city where signal drops completely

Oh yeah where's a good place to get good cheap patch cables

Amazon seems ehh

[rocky badge]

I buy all of mine through fs.com

(Mostly all fs.com cables)

the black cables with non clear boots aren't fs cables

[dire osprey]

this is AT&T’s midband in most of Manhattan, basically discount 4g

[sonic notch]

Oof $2.50 is kinda steep

[sonic notch]

this is better than t-mo's lte lol

[dire osprey]

loving the short cable runs tho

[rocky badge]

lol https://i.ryois.me/OWdt9hnK5G.png

[sonic notch]

Yee are those 6 in or 1 ft

[rocky badge]

6 inches

[sonic notch]

That's what I thought

Idk if I should go for 6 or 1 ft

I don't have a rack so it's just gonna be an unmanaged switch taped onto a wall

[rocky badge]

I wish I got 12 1ft and 12 6in here

And those aren't fs cables, that was before I used fs

The cables get messy half way through the patch panel because they are too long

[full monolith]

Why yall always have ups

[rocky badge]

because

[full monolith]

Ok

[rocky badge]

nice to have

[full monolith]

I have a small one but dont use it

[rocky badge]

https://i.ryois.me/VQwUkNApJZ.png

That UPS runs for 1hr 13min on battery

[full monolith]

In my whole life i only got a power outage once lmao

[full monolith]

Thats good

[sonic notch]

How

[full monolith]

Germany 🤝

[sonic notch]

smh

Y'all don't get 3 day power outages during a freeze

[full monolith]

Never lol

Like 95% of cables are underground and the lines that come in the city are like from all 4 sides and some are underground tho

So even if 2 break theres still power

[sonic notch]

In my state a ton of generators went out all at once because of frozen gas pipelines and windmills

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[full monolith]

Lmao

We dont have fluid gas or hows called again

[vivid belfry]

my cottage is in the middle of the woods, 5-10hr power outages during/after storms is normal

[full monolith]

Ours cant freeze and isnunderground anyways

We never have it that cold that a gas pipe in 1m deep could freeze

Man my english bad today

[vivid belfry]

about 8ft down is our frost line

or where it freezes

[sonic notch]

Bro half of the people who talk about their bad English speak it better than native speakers lol

[full monolith]

Depends

My grammar is just bad

And i sometimes just randomly forget how to spell a word correct

Or type it ig

[sonic notch]

I mean if I can understand you it's good enough

[full monolith]

True tho

[vivid belfry]

grammer is over-rated, there's too many complex rules.

[thick minnow]

Tmobile isn't the only one

[sonic notch]

English is overrated; there's too many complex rules.

[thick minnow]

Wait till you see german.

[sonic notch]

I just learned about Verizon lol

Didn't know they had nationwide mid-band

[thick minnow]

Verizon is great, AT&T is great.

[sonic notch]

Since 2020 either

[thick minnow]

Every carrier in America is great.

[sonic notch]

AT&T 5G suxx

[vivid belfry]

did the americans rebrand 4g as 5g like they did up here in canada?

[thick minnow]

No.

[thick minnow]

No

[full monolith]

They do here in germany

They just added a bonded frequency to 4g and call it 5g dss

[thick minnow]

5Ge, on AT&T is 3-5CA LTE with 4x4 at least.

[sonic notch]

AT&T did for a bit, but I think the FCC told them to stop

[full monolith]

Like 5g but better 4g i guess

And its still worse then 4g

[thick minnow]

They didn't. It had standards. It wasn't just rebranded.

[vivid belfry]

5G here is now 5G+ or some branding like that

[full monolith]

We can hit 950mbps on lte but that fake 5g csnt even give 100 many times

[thick minnow]

That's mid band and mmWave.

5G low band has the standard 5G icon.

[vivid belfry]

Both Telus and Rogers have 4g bands on the 5g network... not sure about bell

[sonic notch]

Is this not just better LTE

[thick minnow]

It's better lte.

But it's not shown as 5G, it's shown as 5Ge to the customer.

[full monolith]

For us in germany theres no different 5g icons

[sonic notch]

That's still nothing more than a rebrand of something different

[full monolith]

Its just 5G thats it

[thick minnow]

It'll probably change with NR CA

[full monolith]

Nope

Never changes

Always just 5G

Doesnt matter what band

[thick minnow]

Do you have NR CA in Germany?

It's the same as LTE CA, when multiple bands are combined.

[sonic notch]

If I'm putting a switch between my UDM and one of my APs, can I use a PoE injector before the switch or do I need to place it after the switch?

The orange box is a normal unmanaged switch

[rocky badge]

After

[sonic notch]

How annoying is it to make my own ethernet cables

[subtle estuary]

On my s21 it looks like this the first one is low band and second picture is high band.

[peak cloak]

It's not too bad but it's kinda annoying

Terminating in wall cabling isn't too bad since it's punch down

But terminating in connectors is annoying

[sonic notch]

Am I gonna need an rj-45 specific crimper?

Or will any crimping tool work

[peak cloak]

Wdym by this

Yes it has to be one for rj45

Or that can do it

[vivid belfry]

theres a difference between a punch down termination and putting a connecter on a cable

[sonic notch]

Yee ik I was talking about one of those tools that help you flatten wires/cables

[vivid belfry]

i see. a $40 crimper has a jacket stripper and cable cutter for both rj-11 and rj-45

along with the crimper

[rocky badge]

Klien Tools!

https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Thru-Reliable-Klein-Tools-VDV226-110/dp/B076MGPQZQ/

https://www.amazon.com/Pass-Thru-Modular-Klein-Tools-VDV826-703/dp/B076PRM7W8/

Best purchases

So easy

[sonic notch]

I would but they're p expensive

[full monolith]

Real thick boy of a lan cable

[rocky badge]

unnecessary!

[full monolith]

but looks cool

idc if its needed or not lol

[waxen scroll]

No blob no

I buy fluke

[sonic notch]

Should I get one of these automatic strippers:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09D8H87Z4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Or are these more than enough:
https://smile.amazon.com/Mr-Stripper-Stripping-Crimping-Electrical/dp/B086V5M1B4/ref=sr_1_12?crid=IJD9SOVR75IW&keywords=wire+stripper&qid=1671840639&sprefix=wire+stripper%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-12

I'm gonna be using it for more than just ethernet but I'm only gonna use them for one-off projects

[vivid belfry]

no those are for electrical connections

[sonic notch]

I need one specifically for ethernet?

[vivid belfry]

yes #networking message

get this

[sonic notch]

Didn't realize my crimper had that tool

Thx

[rocky badge]

Fluke is also good

But Klein tools is nice lol

[peak cloak]

You don't strip the wires with Ethernet

[full monolith]

i guess i get into using linux more then i normaly like to