networking

[sudden kayak]

should be pretty straightforward - it only took me an evening at my parents house to do a basic setup with the er605, a managed switch & two APs

[velvet fjord]

Anyone knows what would cause my plc connection to keep crashing ?

What happens is simple, sometimes I have no problems for weeks, everything works perfectly and then suddenly it doesn't work anymore.

To fix it I have to either unplug my plc (for my pc) and plug it back or even the one I use for my router. Sometimes a restart and some time is enough.
Thats the only way I have to fix it so far.

[pseudo blade]

Hard to say without knowing a lot more about your setup

Is it interfaced via serial? If so, are your computer's serial interface/s any good?

[vital kiln]

So I need some help with setting up a dedicated server for project zomboid

I have the server/program running and it works fine on the lan. The 'server' is running on an old laptop and I have no problems connecting to it from my main rig. But whenever anyone tries to connect from the internet it doesnt work.

I set up all the port forwarding and uPnP stuff through the router and when I start the server it says everything is okay. It reaches steam, it does all the port crap and everything works fine.

I am at a loss. I did everything exactly how I was told to through the official wiki.

[peak cloak]

Do you have a public IP?

Look in router status or similar for like WAN or Internet IP

And tell the first 2 octects

[blazing raft]

does synology surveillance station require opening ports?
Trying to find an alternative to ubiquiti but the same featureset. Don't want to deal with stock, I decided.

[main flame]

Looking to buy a new mesh with wireless backbone. Any recommendations?

Current Asus ac67u mesh is total garbage and drops randomly.

[vital kiln]

yes i have the public ip

My ISP forces the use of an app in order to control the router they supply but one of the nice things is that when I turned on port forwarding and opened all the ports it told me what the public ip was. I double checked with whatsmyip

I have tripled checked and that is the IP that the server for pz is using.

The server is running on top of pop os as well

[main flame]

I would ensure your firewall rules on the end device are allowing outside traffic for that port or application in general.

You could test by dropping the firewall entirely initially and adding allow rules after if that was the root cause.

Another reason to look in to is that your ISP could be using CGNAT which you would need to request to opt out of.

[vital kiln]

I have made sure the firewall is completely dropped.

I had to call my ISP inorder to get port forwarding enabled.

So far the steps I have taken:

1: I called my ISP to turn on port forwarding.
2: Wiped the laptop, installed Pop os
3: Downloaded and installed Steam + PZ Dedicated Server

[main flame]

I would specifically ask if they're using CGNAT and opt out if they are. Your public IP address may be a shared IP

[vital kiln]

Okay. Ill check tomorrow. I guess my assumption is that because I had to call them just to enable port forwarding in the first place and reserve a static IP that it wasn't being shared.

[main flame]

Static IP shouldn't be using CGNAT by default

If the device can ping default gateway
Port forwarding is correct (ports and protocols)
Firewall rules are correct
No CGNAT present

It should be reachable by the internet. I would also be searching the server config for any settings which may enable it to be public

[blazing raft]

i have tplink omada and I'm very happy

if you got $ to burn, go ubiquiti/unifi

Depending on location I either use included POE injector or https://www.amazon.com/YuanLey-1000Mbps-Unmanaged-Detection-Ethernet/dp/B08PJPX47D/ref=sr_1_14?crid=258EL1519VE2L&keywords=yuali+poe+switch&qid=1661752373&s=electronics&sprefix=yuali+poe+switc%2Celectronics%2C173&sr=1-14

[main flame]

I was looking at ubiquity amplifi as I know they are quality compared to the asus junk I have. But it would hurt the wallet

[blazing raft]

go tplink. I love it

I have two systems deployed and it just works. Its unify on a budget.

[main flame]

Wireless backbone between the routers?

[blazing raft]

no...

[main flame]

I can't run ethernet sadly. Rental house

[blazing raft]

reeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE

there was one that was good..

that was wireless backbone... but I forget name. ill google rq

[main flame]

I'm also toying with moving my server and running 1 router but I'd prefer not to

[ocean pivot]

benefit of being in an apartment, basic router with wifi works lol

well "basic"

[blazing raft]

yeah I cant find the name rn

sryu

[main flame]

I tried asus and regret it. Total junk

I may disable 2.4Ghz as I think that's the issue. Had issues with it out of the box

[ocean pivot]

I have a qnap router

[flint matrix]

any unifi people here use peacey's split vpn script?

[sudden kayak]

i very much doubt disabling 2.4ghz will do anything but make your usable range like 3 feet

[arctic oracle]

Does anyone know if an OVHcloud failover IP (without a dedicated server) can be used on a home server?

[peak cloak]

wdym "on a home server"

just setting to that IP?

[arctic oracle]

So I have a machine (Dell Precision T5500) running Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard in the corner of my living room downstairs but I don't want to use my routers external IP for it. Of course, its connected to my router for Internet access, but I want to use a different/failover IP instead of it using the actual router IP.

The only issue I believe is that OVHs failovers are linked to their gateways and subnets... and the subnet being used on the home server is the local router one :L

[peak cloak]

you would need to create tunnel between the server and an OVH machine

or if they have tunnel service

[arctic oracle]

I'm purchasing the NETGEAR R6300 router (I used to own one until my old best friends boyfriend stole it...) that has the capability of using a different external IP than the one used on the ISP router

I don't know if OVH do tunnel services

[peak cloak]

you can't just use the IP by typing it into the router

[peak cloak]

what I used to do on DO is create a cheap vyos vps that would tunnel to my router

[arctic oracle]

I didn’t mean using the router

[peak cloak]

it can tunnel to server as well

it all depends on how you configure it

[arctic oracle]

I wish I could just get a non shared public IP to rent and set it up 😂

[peak cloak]

it's just wireguard

[arctic oracle]

Basically I want to run a game server on the home server but allocate its own IP to it instead of using the home IP

[peak cloak]

yes what you need to do is setup a reverse proxy basically

create some vps

tunnel to server

[arctic oracle]

I have an AWS EC i suppose I could tunnel but it’s running Oracle Linux since that’s the only ‘free OS’ they offer on the always free plan

[sudden kayak]

you mean amazon linux?

[hardy python]

If it is GUI or CLI interface you should be able to create a tunnel to it from your home

[arctic oracle]

Shit I mean Oracle Cloud instance now AWS

Just realised what I put

[hardy python]

I was referring to him using Linux on a cloud server. I am not sure if what Amazon or other VPS services provide GUI interfaces for Linux or if it is just CLI. I don't use VPS services, so I wouldn't know what they advertise. Regardless of the two, it is pretty simple to get a game server running.

replying to your reaction, not the message itself.

[latent sparrow]

Want networking tech tip?

Most of us probably know about this, but i can share it anyways

[echo roost]

I'll take one.. But have already re-learnt the 'is it really plugged in' today.

[latent sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/342386026100031490/841383798348185601/20210510_203705.jpg

Tech tip time
If you have some extra fiber optical cable on your router, flip it upside down and you can roll it like this under the router. You will save space, you won't have excess cable hanging out from the router, and it will look more nice having the excess cable hidden under.

Of course this also depends on the router. Some routers may have space to tuck in the cable, some may not.

Leave a like if this tech tip was useful and / or if it helped you.

[echo roost]

A classic, you should make that a tiktok.

[latent sparrow]

I'm old school. I don't make "tik-toks"

But someone else could.

If they want to.

[frank thistle]

Hi, mybe someone knows, do telecommunications engenieers need to know linux?

[echo roost]

(Sorry in my head i read that as Network Engineers) Not really, but having enough knowledge to get around folder structure, get ip addresses, pings, traceroute, ssh etc... is kinda expected where i work.

[hollow marlin]

Required to know? No. But it makes my job a hell of a lot easier. A lot of the service provider/telco focused tshooting applications are linux only and there are plenty of vendors that have bash like CLI or in some cases require getting into the shell to tshoot specific scenarios

[hardy python]

It is always good practice to learn so your job can be easier. It will make yourself efficient.

[waxen scroll]

I work on big networks but not ISP. Knowing linux, bash and/or python is going to make you way more flexible for projects than coworkers

I use it for data manipulation all of the time

[hardy python]

Hm, data manipulation. That is pretty neat. What tools do you use, if I may ask?

[waxen scroll]

more so python, netmiko, xlsxwriter now. I can feed it lots of data from SSH or other sources and have it formatted in a way I need to help me along on projects.

For example, Cisco's new product ACI is a pain in the ass to move a traditional network to. I have scripts that can target switches and write the info needed to convert to an excel file which an API can read later

if my coworkers had done this project it would all be by hand

we're talking months of lost hours

I just made one that can validate network migrations. A glorified pinger but it can bypass firewalls and figure out what it needs to ping on its own. Saves tons of time too

[hardy python]

That is pretty neat! I have only messed around with Python, C++, HTML, and some JavaScript. I have SSH installed on my local devices to make it easy on me to transverse files where I need them. So far, I am working on a website and a bot. Don't know what else to do. Taught myself Python, C++, and HTML by myself.

[waxen scroll]

python was stupid easy to learn

[hardy python]

Python and HTML are stupidly easy. I understand each term and their functions quite easily.

Before I read the documentation for Python, I downloaded a file from someone's repo on a Discord Bot and I used that as an example to learn Python.

Then I read the documentation because I wanted to know each term defined by Python.

[waxen scroll]

I just started using multiple threads

its so much faster now 😄

[hardy python]

That is good!

What IDE do you use?

[waxen scroll]

vscode

[hardy python]

Aye, that is what I use to lol

[waxen scroll]

thats all the company lets us use

[hardy python]

If you had to choose personally, what would you use?

[waxen scroll]

notepad++

I have no issues with vscode but notepad++ has a lot of powerful text modification tools

[hardy python]

Hm, never used notepad++. Downloaded VSCode and stuck with it ever since.

[hollow marlin]

Nodepad++ and regex makes parsing and organizing data a game changer

[clear igloo]

My ONLY gripe with Notepad++ is it won't append a file extension if there is already a period in the filename now

Example: test.1-devicename_thing
used to append .txt or other extensions now it wont 😦

[hollow marlin]

Yeah I noticed that. Almost lost it a few weeks ago when I thought I never actually saved the files (was searching by extension)

[clear igloo]

Yah, it started in like 8.2 but prior it was fine

And what's funny is there is a checkmark to always append the extension and it ignores that

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll

my uni disables lock on student accounts

So if I want to leave my PC I have to "switch user" to lock my PC without signing out

[clear igloo]

lol, why?!?

[rocky badge]

idk

my only guess is so you won’t stay logged into the pc

but switching user allows you to stay logged in

[glacial linden]

openvpn access server sucks ._. no ipv6 support

I want easy split tunnelling configurable from client side as they like... should I use a normal openvpn server and config it from commandline or try wireguard?

I have a cloud server

[peak cloak]

tailscale, zerotier?

[glacial linden]

ig you're the one who suggested I use oracle cloud free tier since my ISP enjoys setting up cursed NATs that can't have a direct connection through them without IPv6 which not all my friends have

oracle cloud is awesome, 4 ocpus with 24gb RAM per month is a lot, great suggestion there

[glacial linden]

I already use both of them btw...

[peak cloak]

oh, what's the point of openvpn access server

[glacial linden]

first I wanted to use cloud server as a vpn to sort of become an ipv6 provider for my own devices that dont have ipv6... I also thought I can use the access server as a last resort if nothing else works

The micro instances in cloud are too slow... I barely get 30mbps speed when using that as a vpn

Also thought about setting up my own zerotier moon / tailscale DERP servers as a far-better-than-public relay server if direct connection fails

Next thing I'm gonna try is to use the normal openvpn server with an install script that I can connect more than 2 systems with, on a much faster compute A1 Flex instance with 2 cores 4GB RAM and 2Gbps theoretical bandwidth

Setting up 2 micro instances, one as a zerotier moon and one as a tailscale DERP server seem like good options since the servers will remain as backups incase direct connection fails but not all the time... would be optimal

Went through docs for tailscale DERP and I'll have to build that from source using commandline... linux and commandline is something im barely experienced with

[peak cloak]

Thing is you need a ipv6 block/prefix, not just a single address. Although I do think some cloud providers give that

If you want ipv6 look at HE free v6 tunnel

Although idk if it will work with CGNAT

[glacial linden]

idk what the ---- they do with their network config, some days it's completely blocked and then randomly working perfectly again

I hate that confusion because I end up wasting hours trying to troubleshoot a perfectly working config everywhere - on my 2 routers, windows systems, etc etc

I'd rather do something with the cloud that makes sure things keep working

[glacial linden]

oracle cloud does give ipv6 addresses to instances

I was able to assign one to my vnic after figuring out where to go

[peak cloak]

A single IP or a prefix?

[glacial linden]

single IP that has a prefix

It asked me to give 2 hex values

I can try the zerotier moon / tailscale derp route. Will be quite complicated I think.

Or I can make a wireguard server/openvpn server (not access server) that all my devices stay connected to, and friends can connect through if tailscale/zerotier dont have direct connections, as required.

I don't think trying the ipv6 provider way is worth it now, because if I'm connecting to a server anyway and I can make my friends connect too, why bother figuring out port forwarding rules and stuff... No external direct access but a good vpn config

[old raptor]

Do I ask questions about internet issues here?

[old raptor]

Nvm

[analog bay]

if we talk about powerful text modification tools.... nvim 👀

[worthy tusk]

Can someone help me diagnose this issue with windows? I have a 10 gbe direct connection to my NAS, there is no switch, just a simple direct 10gig fiber connection to both computers. I get horrible speeds on my pc when writing to the nas, no more than 100MBps. I created a hyper v vm of windows 10 to test the connection to my server with a bridge to the same exact card in my pc that i use normally, and get significantly faster speeds, here is the crystal disk mark results below. again this is the same exact network card, except one is a bridge to a vm and one is the bare windows install

i have no clue as to what is causing it, i have reset windows networking. The last thing I havent tried yet is to just simply full reinstall windows which I will do if necessary

I am just curious if there is something else I can try before resetting my pc fully as it definitely appears to be an issue somewhere in my windows install

if its a few hours later and you think you might know whats causing the issue please send me a friend request as i may not see your response

thanks again

[fallen wind]

first of all, run a simple test like iperf between hosts

crystal disk mark is showing 185MB/sec, which is about as fast as most spinning hard disks will manage, does your NAS have SSD storage?

[waxen scroll]

Sometimes I like to check luricks forum post history to see if the guy who is anti-vlan has been posting again

@rocky badge you will like the flat networks

[rocky badge]

lol

[thick minnow]

I have some difficulties in zoom with my network but 4k streaming works just fine. Any theories or Ideas?

[glacial linden]

anti-VLAN? 😂 really

[waxen scroll]

@glacial linden https://linustechtips.com/topic/1436910-understanding-vlans/?do=findComment&comment=15438543

[glacial linden]

didnt feel much anti-vlan to me o.o

[waxen scroll]

theres more i'm too lazy to find but the dude is BITTER on network engineers, vlans and Cisco users

[glacial linden]

ohhh it wasnt the OP, I see

[waxen scroll]

the link should have went right to a comment

it was not the OP

[glacial linden]

yup reopened the link and got it

well... if the goal is security, the purpose of VLANs would be to prevent devices in different VLANs from communicating right...

[waxen scroll]

yep

[glacial linden]

I use that myself... work laptop that I have no control over, is managed by admins in a domain, all traffic it sends is separated from my personal network

doing the same with a firewall will be very annoying... need new rules for each device and those rules need to be updated when a new device is added (probably with a static ip)

[sinful ice]

If I use cat6 keystones with cat7 wire, will there be a performance hit? Or will it be straight up incompatible?

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo that feel when you wait to order LTT screwdriver until project farm has a video

[clear igloo]

lol

[dry bronze]

Who can blame him for being anti Cisco users

Apparently Cisco made a change to Intersight so that LACP is the default and you can't have a non lacp port-channel

[bold drum]

bah, openVPN works but not DNS.

[hollow marlin]

Wait....People are actually upset that they cannot use PAGP?

[dry bronze]

Not sure what it uses but I don't know enough to tell NetApp they're wrong when their best practice is to not use LACP on a FlexPod

[hollow marlin]

Well the only options for LAGs are static, LACP and PAgP. PAgP had benefits over LACP when it came out but I haven't seen or heard it used in production. LACP is pretty much the defacto

[dry bronze]

Yea, I was reading some more. I assume it's static done pagp seems to be a Cisco thing

[hollow marlin]

Yep its proprietary. I believe they are or have deprecated it in newer IOS/NXOS versions. Lurick would know better than I.
With static, Ive only really seen it used with host. Best to avoid it when possible

[dry bronze]

Yea I'm not sure why Netapp doesn't want LACP but we chose just to follow their best practices. Seems odd

[pseudo blade]

lol this dude is a clown - "3 or 4 servers makes more sense than virtualisation" "put SSDs in refurb desktops with 2019 because the RoI is better than a hypervisor" "I've done this cost analysis on a corporate scale and have nearly had fist fights with other engineers"

[hardy python]

Are you reacting to the fourm above?

[pseudo blade]

Yeah they have other stuff

[hardy python]

lmao! dude is a clown if physical servers are better than virtualization. I have a docker Ubuntu server running in the cloud. Shit can be redeployed QUICK.

[pseudo blade]

Public IP

I assume you already checked you're not behind a carrier-grade NAT?

ISPs don't always give subscribers publically routable IPs

[pseudo blade]

I assume they'd rather do load balancing at a level they can control

Netapp docs I just looked into seem to suggest they don't care and LACP is fine, though. Doesn't even mention PAGP

[south crypt]

no i am trying to setup dynamic dns

[sly lark]

Which of these 3 should I get my dad

It’ll be using Ethernet with a pc btw

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00L0YLRUW/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWw

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Extender-Extenders-Internet-Supports/dp/B08DHLCLCY/ref=pd_aw_ic_dpcp_m_1_m_18?pd_rd_w=r2Lve&content-id=amzn1.sym.bd0fdf53-c22e-4ccf-9db7-c2aba5cf5188&pf_rd_p=bd0fdf53-c22e-4ccf-9db7-c2aba5cf5188&pf_rd_r=SN00ZSMVGYSYKBWJQT3B&pd_rd_wg=KZFFR&pd_rd_r=2a7f12ae-380c-44ee-a4bf-a2f30b583c4b&pd_rd_i=B08DHLCLCY

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC750-WiFi-Range-Extender/dp/B07N1WW638/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=internet+extender&qid=1661905695&refinements=p_78%3AB07N1WW638&sr=8-1

So which one of these 3 should I get for my dad

He will be using the Ethernet port

We have 100 mbps internet

He uses said computer for streaming movies and tv shows from YouTube and other sites

And sometimes plays candy crush

That’s about it for the computer

[pseudo blade]

I didn't say static

Have you checked if you can port forward externally to your IP?

If you can you then probably want a client inside your network that can periodically check your external IP and update cloudflare

[sly lark]

Can’t

So which one?

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @peak cloak Dorm WiFi isn't working but Ethernet is.

so I'm just using my macbook on ICS to get wifi

[peak cloak]

the student wifi here sometimes cuts out

I think it's an authentication issue since the public network works fine

[rocky badge]

it actually works quite well lol

[peak cloak]

@rocky badge save me, my CS class is all matlab

I'm going to have to deal with matlab for the rest of engineering I guess...

[rocky badge]

ewww

[waxen scroll]

you're at the same school?

[sly lark]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00L0YLRUW/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWw

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Extender-Extenders-Internet-Supports/dp/B08DHLCLCY/ref=pd_aw_ic_dpcp_m_1_m_18?pd_rd_w=r2Lve&content-id=amzn1.sym.bd0fdf53-c22e-4ccf-9db7-c2aba5cf5188&pf_rd_p=bd0fdf53-c22e-4ccf-9db7-c2aba5cf5188&pf_rd_r=SN00ZSMVGYSYKBWJQT3B&pd_rd_wg=KZFFR&pd_rd_r=2a7f12ae-380c-44ee-a4bf-a2f30b583c4b&pd_rd_i=B08DHLCLCY

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AC750-WiFi-Range-Extender/dp/B07N1WW638/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=internet+extender&qid=1661905695&refinements=p_78%3AB07N1WW638&sr=8-1

Which of these 3 should I get for my father?

[peak cloak]

no

[sly lark]

It’s going to be used for Ethernet for a computer

Primary use is YouTube and other sites to watch Movies and tv shows

[sudden kayak]

if that's your strict price limit then the tp link ac750 one is your best option out of these 3 but they are all pretty ancient. I'd say to look for one that's at least ac1200 (wifi 5) or ideally ax (wifi 6)

there are some in that price range or just a few dollars more if you look

also in general wifi extenders don't work very well and you should run an ethernet cable if you possibly can

but it sounds like that's not an option for your scenario?

[meager ginkgo]

You’d be better off with some kind of mesh system with a dedicated backhaul channel such as Eero Pro 6

[sudden kayak]

i mean yeah but their price range seems to be like max $30

[hardy python]

Depending on the size of your house, depends if you really need a Wi-Fi extender. I would suggest getting a decent modem and router. Since you only have 100mbps, if that is correct, I would get anything within the both the modem and routers standards. Average American houses do not need Wi-Fi extenders unless your router has shitty broadcasting frequency.

Though, I am not sure if you know the difference of a Wi-Fi Extender to a Router and Modem. If you do, that is good. If not, I am going to explain.

A modem is where traffic inbound/outbound data are sent from LAN devices to the outside world, and vice versa.

A router is a wireless access point where wireless devices connect to. This also can be used as a private DHCP server. Routers will tend to have more RJ-45 ports than a modem, if the modem has a RJ-45 port. Routers will use the DHCP to distribute a private IP addresses to hosts on the network. Those hosts connect to the Default Gateway and that gateway leads to the modem and all data is sent to wherever the data is trafficking to. It isn't advised to connect your computer directly to the modem because you will not have private IP. Unless, you can implement a firewall, or use a VPN then you should be fine.

A Wi-Fi Extender is a device that extends the range of the current wireless frequency. They use the same Default Gateway.

[unborn sluice]

“A router is a wireless access point”

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[sly lark]

It does

I know the difference

My modem and router is shit, I need network extender

[little shoal]

truenas^ can the drive be accessed now? it was stopped at 15% while pooling but the drive shows up

[sly lark]

It’s $20 max

But like I can spare a few extra if I need to for a good one

[sudden kayak]

i don't think you know the difference between a wifi extender, router or modem either my friend

but yeah if your budget is that low, the tp link ac750 will at least improve things somewhat

[sudden kayak]

if you're just looking for something really basic, any name brand will be fine (whatever you see on Amazon for the best price with wifi 6)

the ac3200 one is a little older but should still be fine

both are probably fine if you just want to buy something simple and all-in-one and not worry about it

the mr5500 one is wifi 6 which is a bit newer. probably not gonna make a huge difference in performance unless you have a ton of devices

[sudden kayak]

yeah that should be fine too

[little shoal]

how do i access a drive in freenas and readnwrite in it at my iPad and macbooks and all?
can u just enter the ip

[sinful ice]

Anyone know where I can find more than a 10 pack of cat7 keystones?

[peak cloak]

https://www.fs.com/products/158170.html

cat7 is pretty overkill for most applications

cat6 will do more than fine

[sinful ice]

Yeah I know. I just found a good deal on cat7 to where it would've been more expensive to buy cat6 at microcenter. Guess I should've checked keystone prices first. Thank you.

[peak cloak]

or just buy multiple packs of cat7

idk if you can use 6 jack on 7, the guage may be different idk, not a cable guy

[subtle wing]

LOL im so confused. i installed openspeedtest on my plex server, ran a speedtest as ive been buffering large files lately, got 200mbps when im supposed to receive 1gbps. had a friend do the test, he gets 1gbps from plex server. i connect directly to my modem, 1gbps. no issues with playing high quality files. used OLD different brand router, 200mbps

[peak cloak]

what's the network topology

[subtle wing]

alright bear with me here haha

with the router in the equation
modem - cat5e 6" cable - router - 100ft 5e - splitter - cat 6 - pc

topology when i tested directly to the modem (added a splitter)
modem - cat5e 6" cable - splitter - 100 ft 5e - splitter - cat 6 - pc

as i said before, connecting directly to the modem solved the issue even adding a second splitter

[clear igloo]

Splitter? You mean a switch?

[subtle wing]

yes sorry

[clear igloo]

I ask because some pricks sell "splitters" which don't actually work as it's like a 1 to 2 phone jack with RJ45 on the ends instead

They can work in some circumstances but generally not so just had to be sure 🙂

[subtle wing]

yea they're both uh TP-Link TL-SG108

[clear igloo]

cool, that shouldn't cause any issues then

[subtle wing]

i dont have any firewall on either of the routers, no QOS, so I am extremely confused LOL

[clear igloo]

what model is the modem?

[subtle wing]

CM1000

[clear igloo]

and the old router in the mix?
or the main router in use

[subtle wing]

old router i tested is the TP-LINK Archer C7 AC1750

main router is the ASUS - RT-AX86S

[clear igloo]

Hmmm, neither of those should have issues getting close to gigabit at least but to be kneecapped to 200Mb/s is pretty low

I assume between router swaps you rebooted the modem?

[subtle wing]

correct

doing a speedtest using ookla gets full, but doing it to my plex server using openspeedtest (server has fiber 1gbps up/down) gets 200-280mbps

[clear igloo]

Is your friend using the same ISP as you?

[subtle wing]

no

[peak cloak]

so LAN - LAN?

[subtle wing]

hes thousands of miles away LOL

[clear igloo]

and the plex server isn't local right? it's hosted somewhere?

[subtle wing]

correct

i have it at a relatives with fiber 1gig up/down

[subtle wing]

yes

its incredibly strange that removing a router from the equation fixes my issue here

[clear igloo]

Especially removing a decent router too

[subtle wing]

ive searched through every setting on my RT-AX86S and couldnt see anything

that would fix anything LOL

[clear igloo]

No performance counter option or anything on the Asus?

A buddy at work had an Asus where turning that on tanked his speed, it didn't do anything but tell you packet numbers

[subtle wing]

no firewall, no qos, no parental controls, dns is Google, no VPN on the router itself, no AiProtection

[clear igloo]

and WAN port on the router to the modem and LAN port to switch right?

[subtle wing]

yes

[peak cloak]

are you using WAN or LAN IP

[subtle wing]

what do you mean?

[peak cloak]

like what ip, the LAN one like 192.168.x.x

or public

[subtle wing]

im using public

[peak cloak]

try lan

[subtle wing]

how would i go about that?

[peak cloak]

just use the lan ip, the one you port forwarded

[subtle wing]

i am not on the lan

[peak cloak]

oh you said it's LAN - LAN

[subtle wing]

i wasnt quite sure what you were saying there my bad

[peak cloak]

because I was suspecting NAT loopback being a bottleneck

[subtle wing]

yea so i am connecting to the plex server using its public ip

running the test with router gives me a quarter of what i should receive, running without give me full

[radiant needle]

Care

Make sure to set the options so that write permissions are disabled to your media library folders, etc, etc

Also there's some host scripting

Seriously

Go to any plex server install and go through the http interface server options

That is all I ask heh

[subtle wing]

what are you talking about

[radiant needle]

Well first of all, you can delete files pretty sure by default

secondly, I forget but let me find it. sec..

[subtle wing]

you have no idea what my issue is haha

[radiant needle]

Oh, I'm just saying connect to that web browser page of your plex server

And go to settings and go through it carefully

Since you exposed it to public

[subtle wing]

thats not my issue...

[radiant needle]

Yeah I know, just side note from experience

[subtle wing]

i still have no idea what you're talking about

rn im just trying to focus on fixing my issue at hand here...

[radiant needle]

Fair enough hah

Oh you're getting one quarter xfer speeds?

That I'm not sure; it's probably related to your internet or router

[subtle wing]

man just scroll up a bit loll

[subtle wing]

x

[radiant needle]

Is your plex server that you plug into router a windows pc?

And it is connected through LAN cable?

[subtle wing]

yes

[radiant needle]

Sometimes the layer two stuff I think it's on negotiates with the router for half duplex

[subtle wing]

it is not half duplex

[radiant needle]

Ah you already checked

[subtle wing]

the issue is not with the plex server

it is with my router which is remote from plex server

[radiant needle]

Ohh

[subtle wing]

routers* to be specific

[radiant needle]

Interesting. So you go direct to modem on your client and get full xfer?

[subtle wing]

yes

[radiant needle]

Hah nothing comes to mind off the bat

I'll watch some KitBoga and sit on it; I'll write back to this chan if something pops into my mind for now

[subtle wing]

alright

[radiant needle]

If you won't figure it out by then

[subtle wing]

im just as confused

[radiant needle]

Does the ookla match top speed direct modem and router on your client?

[subtle wing]

yes

[radiant needle]

That's pretty bizarre

[peak cloak]

I bet it's something with NAT

are you double NATing

[subtle wing]

how would i see that lol

[peak cloak]

given your setup, modem is NATing and acting as router as well since it works with just switch. The router, is it just an Access Point (wifi) or is a router with default settings (which means it's nating)

[subtle wing]

good call lemme access my modem

[peak cloak]

Modem LAN -> Router WAN ?

[peak cloak]

and where is plex server?

on some VPS?

[subtle wing]

7 miles away

im slightly off the cutoff for fiber haha

[peak cloak]

colo?

[subtle wing]

naw in a living room LOL

[peak cloak]

ah lol

[subtle wing]

yea i dont think my modem is nating

[peak cloak]

if it didn't this setup wouldn't work unless the ISP is incompetent
modem - cat5e 6" cable - splitter - 100 ft 5e - splitter - cat 6 - pc

or PC is the only device

[subtle wing]

PC is only device

its a CM1000

[radiant needle]

I think since cat4e it's 1000Mbps

[subtle wing]

yes

cat5e is rated for 1000mbps

[radiant needle]

Either way, I think you guys are digging in the wrong direction

If speed test gives the same router and straight to modem; just the plex speed somehow changes

Could be some QoS setting in router?

Based on protocol or something?

[subtle wing]

i have already stated QOS is off

[radiant needle]

:/

[subtle wing]

for reference

two different routers

both set the same way

[radiant needle]

So apparently plex has settings which differentiate LAN and WAN speed caps

I'd dig around in both the client and server's settings pages

Perhaps when you plug client into router, the client itself somehow tells server it's on a NAT addy

[subtle wing]

its not plex

[radiant needle]

hmm..

[subtle wing]

if anybody has ANY idea, please @ me

[hollow marlin]

Just to make sure what I am understanding is clear based on the conversation above

Ookla speed test:
With router - 1gbps
Without router - 1gbps

Openspeedtest to remote Plex server:
With router - ~280mbps
Without router - 1gbps

[subtle wing]

correct!

[hollow marlin]

Is it possible to install iPerf3 on the Plex server/PC and re-run the test?

[subtle wing]

runnin windows on the Plex server

i use openspeedtest cause its windows haha

[hollow marlin]

iPerf3 can be run in Windows via command line

[subtle wing]

its not accurate

windows iperf3 is outdated and unsupported

[wheat vigil]

hello, how much do you pay for internet and how many mbps and ms u have

[subtle wing]

LOL

[hollow marlin]

I'm fully aware but it's still fine for 1gbps test. UDP is where Windows stack struggles.

[subtle wing]

i can certainly try, let me set that up

[hollow marlin]

The reason I ask is openspeedtest is a mixed bag just based off posts. Id rather verify with other trusted tools before going down the wrong path

[subtle wing]

whats the line to start a server again? its been a bit LOL

[hollow marlin]

I believe it's just iPerf3.exe -s but I'm on mobile at the moment.

[subtle wing]

thats right

thanks

how long you want me to run it for?

[hollow marlin]

A single run for 60s is fine

If both test with/without the router are lower than expected, I would suggest running the client with the -P 4 flag. All else can be default

[subtle wing]

with router

without router direct to modem

def lower than expected, running -P 4 now

without router direct to modem

[hollow marlin]

I'm curious, try -P 50

[subtle wing]

zoo wee mama thats a lot of connections

yea same result, 40-43Mbits

[hollow marlin]

One last thing would be to try changing the server port to see if you can eliminate potential throttling.

[subtle wing]

what do you recommend?

openspeedtest was 3000, this is default 5201

[hollow marlin]

Any one above 10000 should be fine. Typically is outside the well known used ports

[subtle wing]

iperf3 -c xxx.x.xxx. -p

to specify port right?

[hollow marlin]

The sounds about right

[subtle wing]

oh missed a 0 LOL

yep same

19-20

connecting to router now

[hollow marlin]

Hmmm.. Strange with it being so low. I am assuming your PC is/was getting a public address while directly connected to the modem as well?

[subtle wing]

yes

[little schooner]

I've had better luck with iperf3 on windows using this version. Need to build it for windows: https://github.com/esnet/iperf

There were some pre-compiled windows binaries of this iperf3 version here: https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1234695-iperf-311-windows-build/page/3/

[subtle wing]

better results, but still not perfect

[pseudo blade]

What's the router? Have a ton of firewall rules?

[subtle wing]

ASUS - RT-AX86S

no firewall rules at all

no qos, ive scraped every last setting lol

[pseudo blade]

It looks fast enough to take it - quad core 1.8ghz

[proven oasis]

I have a question about iptv and igmp proxy/snooping, I have a asus ax88u as main router and it lacks the proxy capabilites If my research is correct. Can this be fixed by putting a switch with those capabilities before the router?

[pseudo blade]

You can just port mirror on the switch if you just want to see the data

[proven oasis]

I'm trying to get two iptv boxes to work correctly, it works halfway over ethernet from the ax router (lacks rewinds and guide function), it does not work over wifi. I got a scetch of the setup to illustrate

it is something like this atm, one iptv box is connected to the ax88u

[pseudo blade]

So you're testing from a tv, or a laptop or something?

Ok they're boxes

Doubt the boxes have AX, does it fail to connect outright or just have problems?

[proven oasis]

wireless it does not find tv channels because of what I assume is missing igmp proxy function on the main router, by ethernet tv works, but some functions are missing like rewind, guide etc

I guess I might fix it or test by putting the isp router back in and just bridging it

[ashen cairn]

hey

if my iternet provider gives us 200 up and down if i buy a new router can i exeed those speeds or is it like locked

[hardy python]

It is going to be locked.

Your router/modem will send the throughput of whatever your ISP sends to you.

[ashen cairn]

f me man

L huge L

[meager ginkgo]

schools firewall must not be working right

[hardy python]

Different form of network.

That is a local communication not a domain com

[peak cloak]

or allowing it

[peak cloak]

it's like a pipe, if the upstream is small, you can't improve the flow by just getting a bigger pipe downstream

[hardy python]

^

[ripe cargo]

How well do powerline network adapters work through separate fuse panels? Trying to get internet from my parents house to their barn, too far for a reliable wifi connection with their router. All power splits after the meter, one to the house, the other to the barn

Trying to avoid buying an expensive wifi router, if a $60 powerline adapter will work. Just looking for stable enough for a pair of security cameras

[pseudo blade]

It's very hard to say

Some people can get it to work between houses

[errant sleet]

hello is this were i get help with network issues?

[pseudo blade]

Others can't keep a reliable connection between different circuits at all

For simple issues you want #tech-support

[errant sleet]

ok thx

[ripe cargo]

Thank you. I'll grab one at micro Center this weekend and give it a shot. Worst case I'll just take it back

[waxen scroll]

@clear igloo network chuck says I need to learn docker networking NOW but net eng dont configure syseng crap

[royal estuary]

Networkchuck is a brainlet

[clear igloo]

You learn it NOW!

[jagged spire]

just found the 10gig port on my modem

[subtle wing]

Yea, doesn't matter what router I use, if I don't use a router, the issue seems to resolve itself LOL

[subtle wing]

I'm being throttled by my ISP

[pseudo blade]

That'd be unlikely - You could probably test it by bumping your ttl up by one

Unless it's something to do with authentication by your router though it sounds like you weren't doing anything special to dial in

I doubt it, I bet it's something in your router configs/bugs

[sacred plume]

Hi. Weird network issue here. I am unable to access any network devices via hostname or ip address using WIFI. When I try to ping any of them it says "Request timed out". I can access it fine on a desktop machine which is also using WIFI. Just seems to be an issue with this particular machine (which is my personal machine). Unsure what to try here. I've done ipconfig /flushdns, ipconfig /release, ipconfig /renew. Still unable to access them.

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : dtwo.local
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6 AX201 160MHz
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : D6-E5-B2-A2-E7-B1
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::ad38:1743:7bae:cfbf%16(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.46.1.197(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 02 September 2022 12:42:44
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 03 September 2022 12:42:44
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.46.1.1
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.46.1.1
   DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 282518962
   DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-03-00-01-D6-E5-B2-A2-E7-B1
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.46.1.217
                                       10.46.2.217
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

C:\Users\james>ping ck.dtwo.local

Pinging ck.dtwo.local [192.168.1.11] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.11:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),```

Think I found the issue as I am unable to ping the DNS server, but not sure why.

[subtle wing]

It's actually something to do with routing on my fiber PMS end. It has trouble getting a gigabyte of information to servers that can obviously accept a gigabyte LOL

[pseudo blade]

Worst case build a router lol, 4 port gig ethernet cards are cheap used

[subtle wing]

For instance, my ISP is Comcast, I am only able to ever download 200-300mbps MAX from my plex server. My friend thousand miles from me is able to pull the full gigabyte within margin of error. I do Speedtests to local servers that I know work and should be able to send and pull gigabyte, only getting 500 MAX, despite on my end downloading a gigabyte

[pseudo blade]

But that speed still seems low and I'm confident it can be exceeded

[subtle wing]

It's very strange and I think I gotta contact my ISP. I am using PPPoE on the fiber end for some reason

[sacred plume]

also happening with Ethernet, even connected to my maintenance network used for accessing the core network devices

I think this is a device issue

[sudden kayak]

i doubt that's anything intentional on the ISP end but it still shouldn't be happening - can i DM you about this?

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll

• @peak cloak (i don’t think i can mention 3 people at once)

i wonder what fucked up

[rocky badge]

💀

[meager ginkgo]

Bottom one

The ASUS

They are a lot of the time, but that WiFi rating on the ASUS is better. Also ASUS is generally better than TP-Link

[sudden kayak]

yeah i mean the gaming part is a gimmick but if the specs are objectively better, the gimmicky stuff doesn't negate that

[limber river]

I just installed PiHole on my network today......it's blocked nearly 25% of all queries. That's nuts.

[peak cloak]

I find a lot of devices just spam if they don't get a response

[glacial linden]

I have two options -

1. OpenVPN Community Server
2. Wireguard Server

Both will serve the same purpose, the feature I'm looking for is application based split tunneling where I can easily control which exec uses which connection, like in ProtonVPN's GUI.

Both of them currently have the options for IP based split tunneling but not application based.

I did find Proxifier which can do this very easily, but it bypasses all system firewalls since all traffic of those selected execs is routed through proxifier executable, which isn't an option for my setup. Manually adding each executable to proxifier's list is too much work since I'm used to a quick prompt and GUI for this, any new program I use will simply get blocked. I also tried ForceBindIP but it didn't work at all.

[glacial linden]

I accidentally blocked watson.telemetry.microsoft.com and after 5 mins, stuff started crashing. It flooded DNS log with over 200 requests per second or something, was insane. Was using simpleDNScrypt GUI back then.

[spiral vortex]

hey people is a Mifi router a good idea for a vacation house where it would, otherwise, cost 55 per month to have internet

[slow tulip]

Doing a little expansion to my home network later, wanted a managed switch but none in stock

[meager ginkgo]

You should really go on Amazon

BestBuy is so overpriced for network stuff

could have probably got 2 of those switches for the price you paid

[slow tulip]

It was $37

[meager ginkgo]

Amazon has them for $18-25 for unmanaged

[slow tulip]

Shit

[slow tulip]

Yep I just checked

[meager ginkgo]

never buy network stuff from bestbuy lol

unless they price match

[slow tulip]

Actually it’s 4$ less on Amazon for the same one

[meager ginkgo]

yeah but similar ones are like $18

if it's unmanaged you won't notice a difference between that one and a $18 one

[slow tulip]

Well I got my mac for $300 less from price matching it at best buy

[meager ginkgo]

Yeah stuff like that BestBuy is fine for

But their network stuff is usually overpriced

[slow tulip]

And I’d rather go to a place I can easily return it if there are any issues

[meager ginkgo]

Amazon has amazing return policy lol

I've returned stuff a year after I bought it

[slow tulip]

Also Netgear is good but their support is shit

[meager ginkgo]

Like I said it makes no difference if the switch is unmanaged

[slow tulip]

We have warranty but all the support is expired after only a few months

So I can’t even contact them about readyshare not picking up drives

[meager ginkgo]

NETGEAR products are okay, i'm just comparing the price at BestBuy compared to Amazon lol

[slow tulip]

Yes I know

I’m just saying their reliability is good but support is awful

[meager ginkgo]

ah yeah

[slow tulip]

We use 2TB of data a month and no issues with the wifi or network

[meager ginkgo]

yeah

[slow tulip]

Wait

Is there a way to connect two networks?

[sudden kayak]

there are many many ways to connect networks

what specifically are you asking about?

[slow tulip]

Bridging two networks

[peak cloak]

Technically speaking you cant "bridge", just route between them

[slow tulip]

Blue recommend getting one with multiple wan oorts

[fading gale]

Does anyone know a somewhat reputable place to buy a used 8U server rack? it will not be wall mounted and kept in a closet so looks really don;t matter.

[sudden kayak]

multi WAN is unrelated to connecting multiple networks

if you're talking about connecting two LANs together there are still like a million different ways to do it that require completely different levels of hardware

try to describe what you want to accomplish and we can help narrow it down

[vital kiln]

So when I forward ports on my router the external and internal port should be the same, right?

[sudden kayak]

if you want them to be the same sure

you can set them to whatever you want

[vital kiln]

kk. its for a game server and it requires specific ports to be opened and I was just curious if the external and internal port should be the smae

thanks though XD

[slow pivot]

I believe they were called “gateways” back in the day and they sure did bridge two or more networks, usually ones that used different L2 technologies

[peak cloak]

I think we have different definitions. You cant bridge 2 seperate IP networks like 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.1.0/24 together

You have to put a router in between to route between them

[slow pivot]

A gateway back in the day would have done this as part of forwarding packets back and forth between networks. Not always but it was something that I have seen

[hardy python]

Internal network(s) need to have a router or switch to link hosts to. Having two of them you would need either a router configured to the router connected to the modem or a switch.

[peak cloak]

Yeah a gateway is a router

[slow pivot]

Also you can just manually add all the machines into eachother’s routing tables that you want to access as long as they are on the same ethernet segment so no router is needed, strictly speaking

That would be a lot of work though

[hardy python]

Yes, they will need to be configured on the same network & subnet. If you want something to be the hypothetical default gateway you can as well.

[slow pivot]

Not on same subnet; they can be on different subnets. Each machine essentially has a routing table these days so they only need to know where they need to forward a packet for a particular subnet. So if you map multiple subnets to the same network interface on each machine, they can all be on different subnets and yet still talk to eathother without a dedicated router. A pain to maintain though

Which is why we have dedicated routers… so that each machine doesn’t need to understand the network topology it is in

[hardy python]

Yes, I get what you're doing. However, why are taking a difficult route to achieve a network?

[slow pivot]

I wouldn’t do that now, just pointing out that a dedicated router is not necessary for a functioning IP network.

[hardy python]

Well yeah, I figured you were wanting something a bit more simple. I have created some wacky networks just for fun.

[slow tulip]

After a lot of shit not working I finally got everything setup

[raw zenith]

anyone know why my wifi isnt working? like my ethernet to my pc works, but the wifi jsut doenst show in settings and i cant connect to it

[slow tulip]

what router are you using?

[raw zenith]

nvm it worked

[small glade]

Can average consumer grade network equipment tolerate freezing temperatures?

(assuming there is no moisture/condensation)

[slow pivot]

Not unless it is automotive rated

[waxen saddle]

A lot of times operating temperatures are either on the packaging or made available on the manufacturers’ website.

[peak cloak]

this is #networking but put quotes around the term

[waxen scroll]

wot

[peak cloak]

someone asked how to make google search for a term exactly

[fading spire]

i got a new internet plan new router same company and newer stuff but not a change in speed and the drop in speed sometimes is so annoying i dont know why nothing got better i think it got worst tbh

[sleek peak]

how do i change my username and password that im using to enter my router settings?

i searched for the setting but cant find it

i can only see the option to change my wifi password

[cobalt forum]

is there any way to Overcome DS-Lite so i can Port Forward for Server hosting over IPV 4?

[peak cloak]

no, not directly

what you can do is use a tunneling service like ngrok or cloudflare tunnels

[cobalt forum]

does that cost or something? and how does it work cause with that solution i have heard from some Peaople that Hosting with Tunneling is a pain

[peak cloak]

depends what you need. Are we talking HTTP traffic, because that you can get for free. Raw TCP gets more expensive.

[cobalt forum]

i need both

[peak cloak]

you can also get a VPS, tunnel to it, but again requires setup

messing with nat rules

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak @clear igloo lol

ngl that naming is

[pseudo blade]

cdp?

[rocky badge]

Yeah

LDWin does LLDP and CDP

The interesting thing. The residence halls has newer switches than the newer student center.

This is an access layer at the student center

[pseudo blade]

Eh, it's gigabit

[rocky badge]

(Residence halls have catalyst 9200Ls)

[pseudo blade]

They might have just reused and stacked some surplus switches

[rocky badge]

Fair I guess, but the student center has all new APs and shit too

AV in the student center is Extreme though 🥴

[pseudo blade]

People care more about APs than >gigabit throughput per port

[rocky badge]

It's literally only being used for PoE lol

There's no VLANs

Crestron is the gateway/dhcp server

[pseudo blade]

Seems fine to me as long as they haven't exposed management to the access network

If they have, boo to them

I can see vlans in the cdp packet above

[rocky badge]

The Extreme is on the network with management because there's no connection back to the main network

[rocky badge]

I can see the switches management IP from cdp but its fw'ed

[pseudo blade]

What's the scan done with?

[rocky badge]

I'm surprised the Extreme switch isn't doing VLANs because Dante loves its own VLAN with no other broadcast traffic.

[rocky badge]

https://www.intuitibits.com/products/wifiexplorer/

@waxen scroll

172.31.0.0/16

[waxen scroll]

That's fine

You're not supposed to connect stage networks to regular ones

[rocky badge]

Yeah

[sudden kayak]

is it even IP based? or are you talking about something weird like dante/avb/aes

wait dante is IP based

the other one... there are like a million different semi-proprietary things out there

i can't even keep track of them all. i think it's a lot of aes50/dante stuff?

[rocky badge]

Dante is IP based

AVB/AES is MAC/Layer 2 or 1 based

[sudden kayak]

yeah i mixed those up

aes pretty much has to have its own VLAN or be physically separate though right?

[rocky badge]

AES50 doesn't do vlans

AES50 is layer 1

AES51/AVB is layer 2

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge I used to bring a small netgear router to the stage I did work at and connected it to the lighting PC

wireless remote control with my laptop 😄

[rocky badge]

yes

At high school I used to use one of our laptops as a tracking backup for the lighting console

[waxen scroll]

it was Hog3PC

[rocky badge]

oooof

hog

[waxen scroll]

well the others were using hog2pc LOL

they were scared of upgrading so I said screw it and used 3 myself

[rocky badge]

grandMA3 hardware in MA2 mode

[trail lynx]

Does anyone here have experience with Ubiquiti and their PoE cameras? I heard you cant use their normal PoE switches for this?

[rocky badge]

Yes

They are 802.3af/at compliant

Any 802.3af/at compliant switch works

[trail lynx]

oh ok, do you know what userinterface they run at? Do I need any other equipment than a PoE switch compilant with 802.3af/at and cameras?

[rocky badge]

UniFi cams require a Protect NVR.

https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-protect-nvr

[trail lynx]

ok thank you

So this should be sufficient?

1x Ubiquiti UniFi Protect Network Video Recorder
-4x 1tb disks
1x Ubiquiti UniFI Enterprise 8 PoE 120 watt switch
6x Ubiquiti UniFi Protect G4

[small glade]

@slow pivot @waxen saddle "rated for" and "will still work fine until" temperatures usually are not the same, especially when going colder than standard operating range

i think all of the things that might reach freezing that i have are rated for 0c

but if there isnt any thermal shock/rapid change or any condensation forming it probably would run lower fine right?

[slow pivot]

Well thinking of electrolytic capacitors specifically, if they are not "rated for" automotive, then they are rated from 0C to 80C. And that 80C might be a problem. Usually lower temperatures don't matter as much with electronics but condensation can be an issue.

[wanton marsh]

Theres really nothing you need to change there. IP addresses are just the "name" your device gets when connected to a wifi network so it can connect to the internet.

[peak cloak]

nothing will help with speed

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll

[wanton marsh]

Just set it to auto.

@thick minnow ^

In crowded urban environments such as a row of town houses or an apartment high rise, it is quite common to have as many as 6 or even more available networks picked up by a wireless device. it is quite common for a network to have traffic interference. All routers can select from 13 different channels (because you are in europe) so if your neighbors router is on channel 11 then your router will automatically switch to a different channel so you have an uninterrupted network

yes

what country are you in?

uh ok? you can set it to manual and select your country or put your 2 letter country code

[cursive mist]

Just outa curiosity does network switch affect latency for gaming and affect the obs ndi plug in?

[peak cloak]

Not in any significant way

[glad gale]

Not as much as all the routing it goes through.

[lucid lagoon]

Can anyone guide me through pluging in my Ethernet in dms

[wheat vigil]

is a cheap router going to effect my speeds if its wired?

but on the same time there are devices on wifi

[glacial linden]

OpenVPN server... I made 2 configs for each user -

1. Tunnel only (to access say FTP on a device on the same network)
2. Full Internet (basically ISP shows up as cloud platform now)

Problem is - I can't ping any other device when I connect in tunnel-only config. Can ping everything with full internet but then all traffic of all users gets routed through openvpn which is not what I want

Full internet is using redirect-gateway def1 in the config file
Tunnel Only is using route 192.168.5.0 255.255.255.0

[pseudo blade]

For a given router's limitations, you will be limited by these limitations if you use the router in a way that would otherwise exceed its capabilities

This is why your question is best answered by doing some research of your own and thinking how the router would be used

My router does not have WiFi - am I limited by it?
No, I have another router acting as an AP.

My network configuration is good for 400mbps, am I limited by it?
No, NBN is limited practically here to 70mbps and I no longer have local networked storage requiring greater throughput

[lucid lagoon]

I have 200 Mbs in my upstairs but get these speeds in my room downstairs

[unborn sluice]

have you tried just being upstairs

[rocky badge]

@peak cloak i love how they have etsu guest (usually just on the main campus, not residence halls) bc apogee is fucked

[lucid lagoon]

Sleep in the hallways.

[fading gale]

Anyone here good with managed switches?

[signal valley]

Hi all just wondering has anyone had experience with the Netgear GS116PP-100AJS 16-Port PoE+ Gigabit Unmanaged Switch. I recently bought one (still waiting for delivery) and was wondering if it was a good switch. I have a multi camera unifi protect system with 4 g4 bullets, 1 g3 pro, 1 g3 flex and 1 g4 pro all running off a CKG2+. The only purpose for the switch will be for the security cameras and only 1 other device will run off it (most of the time off anyway)

[zenith folio]

😄 australia btw

[carmine arch]

I’ve had this in my home. Try experimenting with your speed because maybe something like rebars in your walls can act sort of as a faraday cage. If there’s a certain point where the speed just drops off, and not a gradual decrease you can be sure. Basically to fix I just got a a long Ethernet cable and an access point connected to my router and speeds were literally tens of times faster. If you want a good access point and let’s say 10m cable you can expect to spend around £30 which is about $40

But you need to ensure your router has a free Ethernet port. If not you may need an Ethernet switch

[wheat vigil]

cat 5e or 6 on a 50/10 mbps connection

[peak cloak]

doesn't matter

both are rated for gigabit

[teal heath]

If you're pulling cables, might as well go for cat 6.
If you need just a single cable there is no use going for cat 6.

[main briar]

The internet in part of my home is unstable. (Sometimes seconds of ping and kb's per second speed). While other parts of our home have normal internet (gigabit and a few ms ping to google)

We are planning on replacing the janky cable with cat 7, do you guys think this will solve the problem? (or is it something else)

[peak cloak]

^

[peak cloak]

cat 6 will be enough

and yes that is probably the problem

[main briar]

2 of the 8 cables are missing because the guys who installed it didnt want to have to pull another cable for phone. (real dumb i know)

[peak cloak]

yes, you can do that

but then you also limit link speed to 100 mb

[main briar]

The limit is indeed 100 mb for devices connected to the switch

We didnt have fiber when that cable got pulled so we didnt notice the difference back then

[lucid lagoon]

Any of you guys know how to connect my cat5e wiring in my walls to my router

[peak cloak]

that picture tells me very little

it's a patch panel

but if those just go to various ports in the house just connect each port on the other side of the panel to the router

[wheat vigil]

if i get 5m insdead of smaller will it effect my speed(for cat 5e)

[lucid lagoon]

This into the router?

[peak cloak]

I don't know where that goes

so I can't tell you

you would need a switch somewhere

[peak cloak]

what's on the other side of this

[lucid lagoon]

That is in my downstairs bedroom, my router is upstairs

It’s those blue wires I sent in the other photo

[wheat vigil]

??

[peak cloak]

5m isn't that long

so it should be fine

[wheat vigil]

ye but the distance is less than 50 cm

if it doesnt effect tho then there isnt any problem

thanks

[ornate jungle]

Can you take a clearer picture of the punch down blocks that the blue network canles are connected to? That style of punchdown is usually used for telephony wiring, though many contractors use ethernet cable and ethernet wall jacks because they're a similar or cheaper cost.

[azure bramble]

Switching internet providers may hurt
from 40 bucks a month for 300mbps/300 to 20 bucks a month 300/10
I barely upload files or anything.... but ouch

[bright nimbus]

ima set up my first NAS for my job ;-; am nervous but i think i got this

[echo roost]

off the shelf consumer/small office grade or crazy rack mount almost SAN system?

[ornate jungle]

Yeah uh, that's still blurry. Would help to take a clear one at 90 degrees to the panel, rather than a blurry one from a 30 degree downward angle. That being said, the green punchdown block looks like it's for POTS phone service. The whole panel needs to be cleaned up to properly trace where cables are running anyway.

[lucid lagoon]

There is coax cables and Ethernet. Wouldn’t that be weird to have 2 phone cables in 1 room?

[ornate jungle]

Not really - multiple phone lines are a thing. For instance, some people have a main number for phone calls, and a second number for their fax machine. Residential home phone wiring would use 2 RJ11 jacks, 1 for each line.

[lucid lagoon]

How would I tell which it is?

@ornate jungle

[ornate jungle]

Hire a low voltage electrician to trace the connections and clean up that electrical panel. Or trace things yourself. Not really something we can help with remotely over Discord, unless you've got secret magic remote controlled eyes, ears, arms, and hands we don't yet know about. 😄

[pseudo blade]

You'd clean up the panel so you can follow where stuff enters and leaves at least

[lucid lagoon]

What do you mean by clean it up? All the cables are labeled to locations. Do you mean cable manage or undust?

[pseudo blade]

I just spent like 5 minutes trying to make sense of that panel and gave up. There's not even that much there

[lucid lagoon]

There is labeled coax to each room and the blue CAT5e is all labeled to rooms with connectors

[pseudo blade]

It might be cat 5e but it's not for data if it's on that block in the middle of that photo

[lucid lagoon]

So it’s for calls?

[ornate jungle]

You could take the in-wall ethernet jacks off the wall to verify if there are actually 8 wires connected. POTS phone only requires 2 wires, and last I checked, certain DSL variants only required 4 wires. Technically 10/100 ethernet also only requires 4/8 wires, but contractors should be connecting all 8 wires.

[lucid lagoon]

Thank you 😃😃

[ornate jungle]

Basically, you'd need to trace the wires to see what's what, or ask the contractors who originally installed both the in-wall jacks AND wired up the electrical panel. At this point though, we're all just guessing. Tis why you'd hire a low voltage electrician if you're unsure how to proceed / wire things up.

[pseudo blade]

Look at the top cable on the block - I think the second pair from the right is missing

Actually the more I look at it the more it seems there is no consistency at all

It's either useless/someone tried to be clever for telephony

[lucid lagoon]

That’s telephone right?

[ornate jungle]

Nice, it's possible all 8 are connected to the rear of the in-wall jacks. You'd next purchase an ethernet cable tester, and an ethernet punchdown tool to re-terminate the cables in the electrical panel onto a patch panel, such as this 8-port one from Trendnet.
https://www.amazon.ca/TRENDnet-Unshielded-Rackmount-Ethernet-TC-P08C6/dp/B003SSX1Z2

[lucid lagoon]

Are these built into routers as well?

[ornate jungle]

Most consumer routers contain switches, a DHCP server, and if WiFi capable, a wireless accesspoint.

[pseudo blade]

These just organise the wires in the cables into ports you can plug into

[ornate jungle]

The alternative to a patch panel is to instead terminate the wires with Ethernet ends, then plug them into a switch or router, if one is close to the electrical panel.

[pseudo blade]

So you can use the wall sockets in your rooms for data

[lucid lagoon]

Is that not what this was?

Or was this for telephone

[ornate jungle]

Yes, but what's on the other end? If that's not connected to anything, how is it going to work?

[pseudo blade]

Yeah but (we're assuming) the other side of the cable into that port goes to the block

[lucid lagoon]

It is

[pseudo blade]

Which you can do nothing with bar maybe phones unless replaced

[lucid lagoon]

So how would that organizer thing change that?

[ornate jungle]

You'd need to re-terminate these cables into either a patch panel, OR into ethernet plug ***assuming *** they indeed are the cables wired into those in-wall ethernet jacks, and aren't damaged in the walls somewhere.

[lucid lagoon]

Into the plugs on the router?

[ornate jungle]

Ubiquiti Networks has a decent 3-video series about network cabling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uVubQlLiI0&list=PLqmQzXAOhOQhoZDFzbuIqj3oihWbJ_Dkz

[pseudo blade]

No offence, but I think the takeaway here you probably need is: Get an electrician in with data cabling experience and tell them what you want

[lucid lagoon]

None taken, thanks for what you could do.

[lucid lagoon]

So what you were saying is I need to terminate the wires that are already plugged into the rectangle thing and connect them to my router?

[ornate jungle]

Assuming those wires actually connect to the ethernet jacks in the walls, yes.

[lucid lagoon]

You were a great help, thanks.

[kind lotus]

Hey, question: Does anyone have any familiarity with Cisco configuration for framed route IPs behind a main address? Mainly routing to local devices on my network... I tried looking up some practical information about framed routes but the internet failed me 😦

[teal heath]

Actually, not all routers have a switch

[signal valley]

he was meaning that the average consumer router is a all in one device, he didn't mean all

[teal heath]

Okay and I was also mainly referring to consumer routers, not all if them have a switch built in, just like as he mentioned, not all of them have Wi-Fi built in.

[signal valley]

but most do that's what he meant

[teal heath]

Okay and loads of people that have no idea about that sort of thing are gonna think “all routers have switches” after reading that.

They don’t know “what he meant” if he doesn’t say that

[waxen saddle]

I haven’t seen a consumer router in store shelves that did t have a switch built in for ~15 years. And that was at Fry’s.

[hollow marlin]

What is your question in particular? Framed-routes are typically for BNG use cases via AAA.

[kind lotus]

I have a main address and 8 framed routed IPs. I want to be able to access these addresses externally from the internet. Do I need to map them in my Cisco switch somehow?

[hollow marlin]

Depends on the context and you'll have to provide a bit more detail. The most common scenario it's used is when a customer used PPPoE in addition to a routed subnet over that session which I assume is what you're describing

[kind lotus]

All I know is I have a fiber connected to an ISP supplied Cisco box (which I am locked out of). I am building the network from scratch, so anything goes. I just want to be able to access things over these addresses, which were given to me by the ISP.

[kind lotus]

I have another Cisco router in my control and a server that runs an esxi with vms as I please

Router? I meant switch 🤦‍♂️ soz

[hollow marlin]

@kind lotus But I would still need to know if you are provided the static addresses over PPPoE or not. PPPoE is the only method that uses framed-routes exchanged via AAA.

Either way, if it's PPPoE or ethernet, your provider is routing that subnet to you. If you want to make use of those IPs, the routing is going to be handled by you internally and completely dependent on your setup

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo

[clear igloo]

2300 ms, ooof

[rocky badge]

Latency spikes like crazy and input buffer goes crazy

[vale storm]

I’m not sure whether to post this here or in #linux, but I decided to post it here: I want to use Mullvad VPN on my Raspberry Pi. Mullvad doesn’t have a client for the Pi but you can use their WireGuard configs to use the wireguard package to still connect. Now, I want to use a killswitch with it, and my current config looks like this:

[Interface]
PrivateKey = [redacted]
Address = [redacted]
DNS = 10.64.0.1
PostUp = iptables -I OUTPUT ! -o %i -m mark ! --mark $(wg show %i fwmark) -m addrtype ! --dst-type LOCAL -j REJECT && ip6tables -I OUTPUT ! -o %i -m mark ! --mark $(wg show %i fwmark) -m addrtype ! --dst-type LOCAL -j REJECT
PreDown = iptables -D OUTPUT ! -o %i -m mark ! --mark $(wg show %i fwmark) -m addrtype ! --dst-type LOCAL -j REJECT && ip6tables -D OUTPUT ! -o %i -m mark ! --mark $(wg show %i fwmark) -m addrtype ! --dst-type LOCAL -j REJECT

[Peer]
PublicKey = [redacted]
AllowedIPs = 0.0.0.0/0,::0/0
Endpoint = [redacted]

As you can see, it will route all traffic through the tunnel and drop any connection that doesn’t go through it (for example when the VPN connection drops). Now, when I enable WireGuard with this config, my SSH connection to the Pi obviously drops immediately. Does anyone know how to configure WireGuard so it makes an exception for local traffic (i. e., all traffic within 192.168.x.x)? I suspect I have to both adjust the killswitch and the AllowedIPs since just making an exception for AllowedIPs didn’t work for me. Any help is greatly appreciated!

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo

As for residence hall internet

[waxen scroll]

👺

[tawdry veldt]

I need some assistance from anyone who has experience with NAS', I'm looking at buying a Synology DS920+ 4 Bay NAS for plex and general network storage, issue is, I dont have physical access to the modem/router, there is absolutely no way for me to access it, so thats out of the question, my room also suffers from poor design choices and has no ethernet built in, powerline internet is also out of the question as my room and the modem/router are on separate circuits, I want to be able to access plex from my phone remotely when I'm at work so if possible is there any way I could connect the NAS to the network via wifi? I know its not going to be the fastest most blazing performance on earth compared to wired, but honestly wired is absolutely out of the question

I've been running plex on my pc which is on wifi and have been watching content on it remotely and haven't had issues so for my use case, being no more than 1080p, wifi should be enough anyway

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo They've got 2 network people from IT here now lo l

[untold elbow]

if you find a USB wifi dongle that is compatible with your NAS, you might be able to make it work. performance is going to suck though

if that doesn't work, you can get a wireless router that can run in bridge mode and connect the NAS via an ethernet cable to that

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll IT is changing stuff live

[waxen scroll]

ask them for their change number

[untold elbow]

you need to change the AllowedIPs directive to exclude 192.169.0.0/16 (assuming you want to exclude the full /16). you can use this to figure out what to change it to: https://www.procustodibus.com/blog/2021/03/wireguard-allowedips-calculator/

put in 0.0.0.0/0 as Allowed IPs and 192.168.0.0/24 or /16 as disallowed IPs

also note that your DNS (10.64.0.1) is outside of that range, so you're going to leak DNS requests. i'd run a DNS forwarder inside your 192.168 network and point to that

[rocky badge]

They did a packet capture and the guy just left with his laptop to "look over it"

[bright nimbus]

Haha it's just a 5bay Synology NAS with two 16TB drives going in there. Nothing too crazy

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo

[clear igloo]

2+ seconds is bad 😦

fix it @rocky badge !!!

[rocky badge]

lol

[waxen scroll]

apogee needs to be fired

[rocky badge]

This isn't on Apogee

[waxen scroll]

you need to be fired.

[rocky badge]

damn

[waxen scroll]

you should get funding for a carrier hotel

its a huge advantage over other gamers

[peak cloak]

Whats that?

A physical location really close to a POP?

[humble cloak]

https://webshop.drfbeveiligingssystemen.nl/accessoires/5042-pft3950.html

What kind of cable would be compatible with this module?

[untold elbow]

short reach LC

https://www.fs.com/products/41730.html

[humble cloak]

Thanks!

[rocky badge]

we usually have good ping

We get like 2ms to fortnite 🤪

8ms to csgo

10ms to ow

[waxen scroll]

its a mega POP

he needs good low latency fiber from campus to one of these and then connections to many ISPs in the same building

then he can play with routing for all his games

[hollow marlin]

Carrier hotel = IX = IXP

They mean the same thing but CH/IXP are typically used in context when other tier 1 providers have physical presence as well, where IX is used in the context when there is just CDN offerings. Thats one thing about the SP field, a lot of terminology depends on context and regions and even the "well known" definitions are not always used

[rocky badge]

@hollow marlin @waxen scroll

[peak cloak]

ah

makes sense

[waxen scroll]

Lumen is awful

[peak cloak]

no way

they block stackoverflow I think on lab computers

that's what it seems like

yep, has to be

I can access it on the student wifi, but not on the VD

[dry bronze]

anyone have thoughts on supermicro vs dell for used servers for homelab?

[flint matrix]

whatevers cheap

[echo roost]

Oh cool, how did it go? i support a synology for one of my side customers small offices. I use the files versioning tool as a great way to support them with screwing up files and use the sync tool to backup to a mirrored synology I host and take weekly external backups from. As a basic NAS it's got some great features and fast enough for small document use no problem.

[hollow marlin]

"In addition, some separate network issues are impacting performance"

Curious if they properly planned out their backup

[bright nimbus]

havent had the time to set it up yet its been sitting for weeks at our work. Weve been really behind on the production side of things. A question I have is how would I give remote access to one of our engineers who isnt regularly on site working?

[gentle bear]

is L.A.G worth setting up or should I look towards 2.5/10g

[clear igloo]

LAG is only for multiple flows, if you need a single fast flow you want 2.5g or 10g

[gentle bear]

its mostly that i got some switches and a server that can LAG wondering if it would be good to just use that to allow multi users to get full gig from the server

[clear igloo]

Yah then it would help for sure

[gentle bear]

i could do 10gb between all the switches

[clear igloo]

I see a lot of people thinking LAG would give one person more than 1gig to a single destination so I wanted to be sure

[gentle bear]

but the 10gb switch isnt well documented

and is HP so it has a white list

[echo roost]

If you are using syngology cloud services they have some free software that provides remote access to the storage. Might be a pain to setup on specific permissions, but if its just one engineer would probably be fine.

[jaunty talon]

@hollow marlin isn't CH more locations like InterXion and Equinix which house multiple IX's and also where Tier 1 and 2 does PNI's? Basically where you can connect to service providers (CDN or Transit) at one physical location! :)

[waxen scroll]

yes

I have 4, two are at equinix

DWDM over dark fiber from datacenters to CH and then whatever from there

[jaunty talon]

=)

[hollow marlin]

Yeah that was essentially what I was saying

[untold elbow]

did somebody say ix???

[jaunty talon]

:D

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @hollow marlin

[hollow marlin]

So they are doing a manual failover??

[rocky badge]

apparently????

[pseudo blade]

Imagine a failover that takes more than a few seconds

[hollow marlin]

That time frame looks like they shutdown the BGP session and that is how long it will take to converge. Not the way it should have been handled

[waxen scroll]

your school has so many bad change practices. when I worked a school none of this was allowed

had to be 10pm+

[rocky badge]

they peer with both companies so maybe?

[unborn sluice]

middle of the day
least likely to interrupt

[pseudo blade]

Eh, overly restrictive maintenance windows aren't my cup of tea anymore, I'd rather just have it so changes and reversals are near instant with redundancy planned in

Otherwise maintenance seems to never happen

[hollow marlin]

Yeah our maintenance windows occur only between 12am-4am

[unborn sluice]

why wait when you can just tell people to deal with it

10/10 customer satisfaction

[pseudo blade]

What, just tell users to accept outages?

Damn, why didn't I think of that one

[peak cloak]

isn't your school a good CS school...

[rocky badge]

yes lolol

[pseudo blade]

But tbh except in a few key industries a few seconds of failed requests needing to be repeated does not matter

[rocky badge]

we build better networks in networking

[waxen scroll]

my job is a key industry

[peak cloak]

havn't had an outage here, except for just wifi auth issues once

[pseudo blade]

Well in that case your network should be designed so parts of it can die without impact

[rocky badge]

lumen went down so they switched to mountainet (local)

[pseudo blade]

Preferably all parts

[hollow marlin]

Tell that to our bank, medical, etc. customers that are monitoring their ping probes like a hawk

[pseudo blade]

And if they can die, they can be replaced

[unborn sluice]

1 out of 100 ping failed. must be fixed ASAP

[waxen scroll]

theres a LOT of apps out there that cant handle packet loss

[pseudo blade]

Tbh even for a bank you don't really need 100% uptime

That's an app problem

[waxen scroll]

yep but the apps are your customers, so

[pseudo blade]

My reality is that apps designed that way don't work well

[waxen scroll]

I have 0 power. The network has to be up and the app people are allowed to prevent my maintenance windows

thats how it goes at F500

[pseudo blade]

What we found in clients of the company I worked for earlier this year was that they left stuff up and unpatched until it got hacked

They kept planning the maintenance windows further away because it's never a good time for an outage

I like Netflix's chaos monkeys

[rocky badge]

i think it’s because no classes happen

[pseudo blade]

It's a more realistic way to run infrastructure

[rocky badge]

everyone is on lunch

[waxen scroll]

netflix is a modern app from scratch. everyone else has all this legacy crap lol

[pseudo blade]

That's been the excuse for decades

Yet more legacy crap is created

[waxen scroll]

its no excuse, I have 4 mainframes I can show you

[pseudo blade]

Perhaps this is because they need more unreliable infrastructure to develop on

[unborn sluice]

don't, you might burst his perfect world bubble

[waxen scroll]

[peak cloak]

why fix it if it ain't broke mentality

[pseudo blade]

I'm flat out saying the world's not perfect

[hollow marlin]

If the outage was instability/loss, that is when you adjust LOCAL-PREF and either as-prepend your prefixes or worst case, withdraw them. This means when all is clear, you rollback and BGP would have already converged and minimal impact.

Thats how it should be handled, a manual hot cutover is a no-no

[waxen scroll]

public sector IT people arent the brightest

[pseudo blade]

And anyone trying to treat individual infrastructure components as perfect deserves to have their shit break

[waxen scroll]

that apogee MSP is the worst too

[rocky badge]

lol yeah

[rocky badge]

them handling resnet is awful

https://webapps.etsu.edu/Advisory/ @waxen scroll

[waxen scroll]

@rocky badge network outages are half ISP and half change. I feel like apogee just sits there changing just to change

stop touching it. it'll run

[rocky badge]

hope all of these people’s zoom classes end in 20 min

there’s a ton of people in the student center on zoom and working

[hollow marlin]

Or in other scenarios, "we made these dozen changes at the same time and now it works"....OK, so now you have zero insight into WHAT change was the one that fixed it.

People go crazy under pressure.

[pseudo blade]

Tbh the other reason I hate 10PM maintenance windows is my employers have collectively made it painful to receive compensation to do so

[waxen scroll]

I got called to P0 like 3 times over the holiday

its network!

nope. no network changes. its your app.

[pseudo blade]

If I'm not being compensated, your P0 is a P3

[hollow marlin]

@rocky badge Can you get general traceroutes before/after the change. Id be curious to see what was done

[peak cloak]

you guys still have zoom classes?

[pseudo blade]

I know my local campuses definitely do

[unborn sluice]

don't want to debug? pass the ticket to another team. works most of the time

[waxen scroll]

just look at the AS number in the looking glass

Zoom? MS teams grew on me. 😛

[pseudo blade]

Both suck differently

Hangouts/meet too

[waxen scroll]

i like how easy it is to do VOIP/Meetings and chats all in one window

[pseudo blade]

Tbh I never actually used Teams for external voip. I know it has stuff built in that looks nice but no idea on functionality, my orgs used slack for calls or just made meetings. Or 3cx/mobiles

I assume all that deskphone integration's for something

[rocky badge]

yeah

[rocky badge]

i’ll try

everything just request timeout

[peak cloak]

same

[hollow marlin]

I know, I just want to see the updates via our peers that have a next to useless LG. @rocky badge whats their ASN?

[rocky badge]

29842

[waxen scroll]

oh they did ghetto backup

large summary to backup provider, specifics out the other

[rocky badge]

😂😂

[waxen scroll]

imagine paying $$$ to a provider you dont use

[peak cloak]

what's the purpose of 2 announcements?

[rocky badge]

ikr

[waxen scroll]

ghetto backup

in 2022 you should be using all providers and not idling one

[peak cloak]

huh, I thought that was the mountainnet announcment here

[waxen scroll]

juan is probably about to find something nasty

[rocky badge]

let’s seeee

[rocky badge]

idk why they don’t load balance or shit with both

@waxen scroll @hollow marlin I wonder if the switch is done

i didn't get any interruptions

i'm on wifi now so idk

[hollow marlin]

Yeah, switch was done for 4 of their prefixes

[rocky badge]

how are you telling? lumen's LG or something else? lol

[hollow marlin]

My edge routers lol

[rocky badge]

ohh lol

[rigid grove]

Hey, Would anyone be able to help me out? I'm having trouble with a Netgate/pfSense SG-1100.
I set up the VLANs, DHCP Servers, and have everything, as far as I know, setup properly. in the Switch tab I added the new VLAN (21) to port OPT. I connected it to a UNIFI switch, but nothing shows up for VLAN 21, like nothing at all. I even tried putting a static IT on the computer to see if it would connect. but nothing.
I tried another pfsense box(pfsense installed on a mini pc - just for testing), the same config, and it worked perfectly. So I don't think the issue is with the UNIFI switch, or the pfsense config, I think it has something to do with the SG-1100 internal switch.

[distant condor]

heyyy I notice my Upload speed on my laptop starts off at around 500 Mbps, then suddenly drops to 300 and gradually decreases to 240. Does this indicate that my router or switch is throttling the bandwith for my device?

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @hollow marlin latency and packet loss is still happening on the primary isp lumen

[hollow marlin]

Whats public IP do you get? Im curious if its still going through Lumen because they only changed advertisements for a small subset of their prefixes

[meager ginkgo]

💀

[glass anvil]

My router is finally supported. It's about time.

[signal valley]

wtf, apple is so stupid, Wi-Fi 6E came out over a year ago and is being adopted in most new access points and they still didn't think "oh maybe adding the new wifi standard is a good idea because it might help it run better" but No, apple has to be apple and fall behind in standards until they are at serious risk of falling behind the market then they come along and say oh this is a new technology

[crystal oriole]

Its a phone..

[signal valley]

so...

[crystal oriole]

Id say you wont really reap the benefits of 802.11ax anyway

[signal valley]

it's not about the amazing fast speeds its about the uncongested band and being able to use it

[crystal oriole]

5Ghz works just fine

[signal valley]

why make a new standard and not use it

[crystal oriole]

And whilst the phone might support it, infrastructure would also have to be updated to support it which likely will take even longer time

rip/replace APs etc etc.

So why spend resources to upgrade and include the capability of something that most likely barely will be used by the userbase

At least not right now.

[signal valley]

the difference in cost between a Wi-Fi 6 module and a Wi-Fi 6E module in a phone would make the slightest difference maybe dollars which a big company like apple can do.

[slow pivot]

Might also have been an availability issue given the 14 line was designed 1-2 years ago

[sudden kayak]

this is the real answer ^ BOM for these has to be nailed down way in advance and wifi 6E is actually still extremely new

wifi 6E is not in most new access points - only a few of the biggest network equipment providers have anything that supports it

ubiquiti still hasn't gotten its only wifi 6e SKU shipping in volume

it's still a big miss for apple not to have it even in the pro max where they have the newest SoC, and should have physical & battery space for it

but it's reasonable

[jaunty talon]

Now smallest uplinks in my network are 100G (including router, firewall etc) :) \o/

[rocky badge]

@waxen scroll @clear igloo I still can't believe this AVoIP solution is so good

[sudden kayak]

https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/comcast-debuts-2-gig-internet-service-plots-symmetrical-multi-gig-rollout-2023 👀

[clear igloo]

Cries in 5Gbps 😦

Still, 100g and up everywhere is awesome 😄

[clear igloo]

Good, now people can hit their caps faster 😄

[sudden kayak]

lol the cap thing is so dumb I'm sorry 😅

[peak cloak]

they still have caps...?

[pseudo blade]

Caps on fixed broadband? Nah

[rocky badge]

@clear igloo @waxen scroll LOL https://quickview.cloudapps.cisco.com/quickview/bug/CSCvm23370

They think the issue is a memory leak

[waxen scroll]

ew. using ASAs in 2022?

[humble cloak]

Tips for first time laying fibre through my house?

[peak cloak]

Do it in tubing?

[waxen scroll]

I wouldn't unless you need 40G+

its no better than copper 10G