tech-chat-2

[shell void]

yeah i didnt mean that theyre the same experience, just that theyre both valid flagship options

[hoary hatch]

They're in the same thermal profile you should be fine

[shell void]

theyre the two best available and you pick based on what you prefer

[merry stirrup]

oh okay

[turbid locust]

Mike 5K240 LG C series when?

[edgy laurel]

why are you bothering with 13 year old CPU's

[merry stirrup]

wwhy specifically real world

[shell void]

that will depend on what youre doing on the PC so nobody can give you a single wattage figure

[merry stirrup]

your device absolutely has enough power available

[jaunty horizon]

Thermal wise yeah. PSU yeah maybe. If the CPU does like 30W max it should be fine tho

[shell void]

portable displays are like 5-20w at most youll be fine

usually single digits

[hoary hatch]

Load up a power virus and see what it sucks back

[pure garnet]

i forgot fortnite likes the e cores

[shell void]

only in our dreams

[merry stirrup]

(furmark)

[pure garnet]

all 20 of my cores are under load in this game

[turbid locust]

idk if I can downgrade from 42” bro

[edgy laurel]

for the CPU?

[hoary hatch]

Wait fortnite is (e-core) based?

[merry stirrup]

did i stutter

[shell void]

it was definitely really weird when i went down from 42" to 27"

27" is too small for my 36" deep desk

[edgy laurel]

💪

[pure garnet]

fortnite is an e core lover yeah

[merry stirrup]

do i have to teach you another feature thats been right in front of your face guilty

[shell void]

IIRC you have a 42" deep desk so it'd be even more weird for you

[merry stirrup]

\

[hoary hatch]

I should buy Sierra Forest

[pure garnet]

when i went 13100f -> 12700k my fps doubled

[edgy laurel]

considering i've spent like 10 minutes in furmark in my life, probably

[hoary hatch]

And play some fortnite

[merry stirrup]

(this is not new either, its been here for a while)

[shell void]

my personal preference is having my display size be the same as my desk depth

so your 42" desk would be perfect for a 42" display for me

42" is a bit too large for my preference on my 36" desk, but 27" is wayyyy too small

[pure garnet]

putting my 40 inch tv on my 24 inch desk

head crank distance

[merry stirrup]

would say it works

[shell void]

id like to try 37" but that's only available in crappy lcds so no thanks

[merry stirrup]

intel

[jaunty horizon]

Because its my secondary PC. Picked it up for like 15 Bucks. And i saw that the CPU wasnt only socketed, it even is a Desktop Socket 1155. BIOS is definetly NOT locked down for higher CPUs. i threw in a Core i5 2400 before i realised its an 95W TDP CPU and that the PSU can only provide 90 Watts.

So that not only makes me curious but also wanting to Upgrade it to an i7-3770T which is the highest CPU on the Socket with a Maximum TDP of 45W.

Also the CPU should be running approx as fast as an N100, so its useable at least.

[shell void]

meanwhile on a 9950x3d that would be 190W core power and 50W soc+misc

[merry stirrup]

lol

[jaunty horizon]

Real World in terms of real wattage and not TDP since both can be different. My Concern is the PSU Limit

[pure garnet]

i should just disable my igpu since the master only has an internal hdmi port

[hoary hatch]

I hope the 3770t is basically free

[merry stirrup]

you wwill be fine

[shell void]

my 9800x3d could be a 45W PPT chip at 4.7GHz if it werent for the SOC and fabric burning like a coal plant

[merry stirrup]

real. id just power limit a normal chip

i dont know if 3770t's are cheaper than 3770s or 1230 v2's

[jaunty horizon]

I hope so too. Not willing to spend more than 20 Bucks on it

[steel stream]

Infinity Fabric innovation at work

[merry stirrup]

do not pay 20$ for an ivy bridge cpu please

[shell void]

my favorite "low cost interface" (words of an amd employee)

i love when amd does the absolute bare minimum for my dollar

[pure garnet]

my lego chip is cooler than your lego chip

[steel stream]

That's fucking awesome an employee said that lol

[pure garnet]

because it has more pieces

[shell void]

yeah theyre fully aware that it sucks

[pure garnet]

@hoary hatch

[shell void]

the rationale is that a desktop user doesnt care about 20W vampire power and 9800x3d runs games well so whatever

[pure garnet]

e cores in use

[steel stream]

The 7th deadly sin greed has manifested itself in Lisa Su

[merry stirrup]

ue for you

[shell void]

yeah this is nuts when first loading in

[merry stirrup]

pretty efficient at using cores

[shell void]

it would put my 14900K to 100%

[merry stirrup]

yeah

its shocking seeing like 60-70% usage in games like apex on my cpu

[jaunty horizon]

I will be measuring the 3470T (Current 35W TDP CPU) with a CPU Burner and a SMart Outlet that can report the Wattage of the Whole device. Subtract Efficiency from it and i have a rough number of what the System Uses and how much i can strech the Wattage until i hit 85W

[merry stirrup]

you cant measure via socket at all thru like throttle stop or idk some linux shit?

and keep in mind on earlier intels the TDP includes the igpu, you should be more than fine

[shell void]

you will be 100% fine using a 3770T and a portable monitor on an 85W psu i promise you

[jaunty horizon]

I mean... it took a fucking i5 2400 with 95W TDP and didnt explode. I think it did something around 60W Wattage so it SHOULD be fine

[shell void]

portable monitors barely use any power because they’re laptop panels

[merry stirrup]

i literally do the same but on a lower wattage psu

i have a regular 4590 in a 65w mini pc

[jaunty horizon]

Its not a Portable Monitor.. Wait i will send it

https://geizhals.de/fujitsu-esprimo-x913-t-vfy-x913tp35a2de-a873120.html

This one without the Camera Module

[merry stirrup]

dma pc

[shell void]

small computer

[hoary hatch]

I loathe it so much

[arctic bronze]

i have me one sitting on my homelab rn

[merry stirrup]

the KVM

[random flame]

You could run Platypus on that.

[hoary hatch]

You meant $2, right?

[merry stirrup]

what is that

[arctic bronze]

whats the specs in it, mine has a 6500T and 12gigs ram lol

[shell void]

okay assuming this is a typical 200nit edge lit desktop office monitor it’s not gonna be more than like 25W at most

you should be fine

[merry stirrup]

4590, 6gb ddr3, china "king fast" ssd

[shell void]

it’s a touchscreen but whatever that shouldn’t add much

[merry stirrup]

its literal entire purpose is to run linux and stream to the web via h264

[random flame]

Old side scroll shoot'em up that used claymation for the sprites.
Recently they released a remake of the game, with some... Extras.
Like for instance...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R2PbcP0waQ

[jaunty horizon]

Yeah i hope so too. Its bright tho. maybe 300 nits

[random flame]

A few new hilarious power ups that are surprisingly effective.

[merry stirrup]

ohh its just my linux box

i wwill probably™ swap it to a raspi but idc

optimize dat power usage

my favoritte line of gaming laptop

[jaunty horizon]

Well i whish. I am looking at everything, old PCs, defect PCs etc. but i cant find the CPU or whole devices under 50€ here in germany

[merry stirrup]

e3-1230 v2 and run it headless

[random flame]

Though yeah, in case anyone didn't catch the point of me bringing it up, you should totally try out Reclayed, especially if you want a real challenge in a game.

[merry stirrup]

oh my bad you cant its an aio forgot

look for uhhh 1235/1245 v2

[pure garnet]

i have one of these, the fans are so loud

[jaunty horizon]

Thats not possible i think.

[steel stream]

i just cut my finger yesterday with a razor blade yesterday that was a PITA

[merry stirrup]

💀

[steel stream]

I bled through a couple paper towels

[merry stirrup]

jeeze bro 😭

[steel stream]

just my finger so it's all good, but was not happy to deal with it

[jaunty horizon]

also the e3-1230 v2 is a 69/70W TDP CPU. Dont think the Cooling solution can handle it

[steel stream]

I use one of those single blade razors, and I went to take the blade out in just the dumbest way possible

[merry stirrup]

power limit

[jaunty horizon]

With what? The Shitty Fujitsu BIOS that has no Power limiting functions?

[shell void]

i am trying “A&W Ice Cream Sundae” soda

[merry stirrup]

software

[shell void]

it’s not root beer at all, it just tastes like vanilla and chocolate

[steel stream]

at least it hits the ice cream sundae notes

[shell void]

it’s diet and has no caffeine

[merry stirrup]

no caffeine :(

although thats usual with rootbeer innit

[steel stream]

no caffeine before bedtime man

[shell void]

yeah i don’t think it’s supposed to be root beer

[shell void]

you dont tell me what to do bro

[merry stirrup]

ah yes thanks furmark my 5070ti is at 255c

[steel stream]

Apologies, have all the caffeine you wish 🙏

[merry stirrup]

wait why did it flip the sensors lol

worlds first hot spot temp sensor on rtx 50

[steel stream]

good to know it's an 8 bit int

[jaunty horizon]

Youre killing me. Okay what Software? At least i can find this CPU under 25€

[merry stirrup]

throttlestop

[jaunty horizon]

Intel XTU?

[shell void]

rtx pro 6000 hotspot temp

[jaunty horizon]

oooh

[shell void]

xtu my beloved

[merry stirrup]

xtu no work on unsupported platform

sandy bridge is before xtu even existed i think LOL

i think it was a 4th gen thing

[merry stirrup]

bros gonna find it

[shell void]

the lion downloads a super old version of XTU in order to undervolt his locked CPU because newer versions lock it

i have a version saved that lets me undervolt my 10900f

[jaunty horizon]

1245 V2 work with normal 1155 Boards? I mean even the 2400 worked, but server CPUs?

[merry stirrup]

same microccode

[steel stream]

let me remote into your computer and I will set it to 8C for you

[merry stirrup]

i used a 1230 v1 in a (sandybridge locked) optiplex

[jaunty horizon]

lmao

[pure garnet]

i use a 2700k in a q65 board @ work

[steel stream]

you think it would work for my 11900h

[merry stirrup]

they cant block them in boards that old

its just based on microcode and if they use the same microcode its...the same...

[shell void]

yes maybe actually

[merry stirrup]

its based on bios too tho

[shell void]

ill dm you the version and you can see if it's supported

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/grand-canyon-this-canynon-seems-so-grand-the-pointer-brothers-pointer-brothers-gif-11819849400301381948

[shell void]

it's old as hell

[merry stirrup]

is your laptop bios updated

[steel stream]

probs

[merry stirrup]

idk then

[steel stream]

only one way to find out right

[merry stirrup]

plundervolt or something

[merry stirrup]

real

the stock curve on the 70ti prime is very aggressive

[steel stream]

alright my laptop now has a virus awesome

[shell void]

spectacular

[merry stirrup]

hes in

[jaunty horizon]

What Mainboards/CHipsets on 1155 were Overclockable? Because i remember NOT having a Z Board with my 2500K and i was STILL Able to Overclock the Multiplier on it

[merry stirrup]

b and onward iirc

[jaunty horizon]

H67?

[merry stirrup]

i was not able to overclock ram on my h67 i wouldnt imagine it would allow cpu too lol

[jaunty horizon]

Danng

This would be a decent deal if it could OC:

[merry stirrup]

YOOO

thats my very first custom pc board

[jaunty horizon]

xD

[merry stirrup]

the very board i am talking about

[jaunty horizon]

So its shit

[merry stirrup]

so... if that answers your question

[jaunty horizon]

Haha

[merry stirrup]

i mean it works fine i was able to change mem timings and bclk to 103 as normal

[shell void]

the lion does not concern himself with the ramifications of running bclk107

he ignores the sata ports that he killed by overclocking the bus

[jaunty horizon]

Because IF i am getting a Mainboard with the CPU, i want it at least to be a decent one

[steel stream]

bastards

[merry stirrup]

can kinda see it here

[shell void]

if youre going to replace both the board and the cpu then why not get something much newer

[merry stirrup]

the infamous 32$ g2

(650 g2)

[shell void]

i didnt see this peak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuO7vr7b2m4

2026 cannot come soon enough

[steel stream]

forget 2026 I want 2027 for beyond the spider-verse

[merry stirrup]

this blew up running a 3080 and 11700k

okay well it just triggered ocp a fuck ton

[steel stream]

across the spider-verse looks so good on S90D

[merry stirrup]

i havent seen the newer one yet

am i cooked

[steel stream]

i mean you should watch it, but maybe rewatch the first one too

[merry stirrup]

yeah thtas a good idea

on one of the oleds i reckon it'd be beautiful

[steel stream]

100%

Oh thats right you have an OLED tv now too right?

[merry stirrup]

gotta get something to replace it but yes

[jaunty horizon]

Cant replace the Board. But if i am getting a Board alongside the CPU, i want it to be a decent one so i can maybe build a PC on the Plattform. I still have DDR3, PSUs are cheap to buy, throw in a 120/240GB SSD, throw it in a cheap case and give it to someone that needs a PC. Either with the i5 2400 or the 3470T i then have lying around

[merry stirrup]

cause the weird burn-in-not-burn-in

[steel stream]

ah

[merry stirrup]

i allegedly could maybe figure out how to fix it myself

[steel stream]

You wanna buy an S90D

[merry stirrup]

but i'd need internal LG repair docs and firmwares

so in reality no

[shell void]

you totally arent looking to sell your S90D and save up for a G5

[merry stirrup]

cannot do it myself

[shell void]

surely you wouldnt do that

[merry stirrup]

oh shit

hands are getting forced good deals are coming

[steel stream]

I legit looked to see if my 5070 ti was in the return window and I would have bought an G5

I still have like 2 months to return this S90D cause I bought it from costco

[shell void]

rtx 4070 on the lg g5 🔥

[merry stirrup]

out of date by 2 gens?

seems like big money if so

[shell void]

a guy in the monitor discord is going to run one with a 4060Ti 16GB

[steel stream]

I'd do the same if it meant I would have a G5 tbh

[shell void]

that's a first gen 2022 qd oled tv

[merry stirrup]

we are cooked

[shell void]

still a great tv but that's kinda pricey

[merry stirrup]

yeah seems a bit much at 650

[steel stream]

In reality I am keeping the S90D, I have ideas for projects and vacations and the S90D is good enough

[merry stirrup]

can get whatever this is bnew

although idk where tf that zip is so maybe not

[shell void]

if youre willing to control room lighting then one generation old qd oled is usually the best value

like a $1000 65" S90D

[jaunty horizon]

Dang even with 16GB RAM and Case + PSU and such. But sadly its the 1245 without version number

[merry stirrup]

does the aio allow for passthru to be used as a standalone display?

[merry stirrup]

lol you wish

[shell void]

they were $1000 from woot for a while

[merry stirrup]

S90F is 1200 whatever that means

[steel stream]

and they came broken.

[shell void]

what size?

[merry stirrup]

and akns got drop kicked

[merry stirrup]

42 inch

[shell void]

mega overpriced

[merry stirrup]

id like a 50 minimum i think

[steel stream]

oh don't do that sir

[jaunty horizon]

Why is the V5 Cheaper than a V2

[merry stirrup]

i think this is a 65inch in my room i like how big it is but it was a pain to transport

[merry stirrup]

motherboard locked starting at this gen

V5 is skylake aka 6th gen

[jaunty horizon]

Why is it so cheaaaap

[merry stirrup]

i just told you

[jaunty horizon]

Oh i see

[merry stirrup]

you need workstation specific boards at that point

[jaunty horizon]

Ppl cant use them

[merry stirrup]

you cannot go get a normal b150 or whatever

v4 (doesnt exist on consumer socket) and below are any thing it can fit in

[merry stirrup]

i wait

[steel stream]

dawg what the fuck, aparently at my home's local mall, some dude was crawling with all fours on leash with his girlfriend

[merry stirrup]

😭

[steel stream]

You got a costco membership? I think the C4 65" is 1000 there

[floral spear]

When they invent a good flat screen OLED that doesn't do burn in I'll invest

[steel stream]

translation I can not afford an OLED at the moment and I am projecting

[merry stirrup]

"flat screen" never thought id hear that as a tv requirement

[jaunty horizon]

So its either 30€ for the CPU with Board or 20€ without Board. And the Board is the H67

[floral spear]

Lots of editing there pal

[steel stream]

:(

[merry stirrup]

i mean if you dont have a use for the board (probably dont) you wont need it

so save 33%

leave the ewaste for the next guy

[floral spear]

I mean I can afford it, I just need to sacrifice 2 weeks by eating straight up 6$ ground beef

It's just I'm talking more about how I dislike TVs going purple/burn in just for leaving it alone at night

[merry stirrup]

i may have gaslit you nekkid

[steel stream]

going purple?

[jaunty horizon]

My Plan for the Board would be to scrape together my DDR3 i have left (at least 8GB) and throw a Cheap PC together for someone who needs it

[merry stirrup]

i dont think v2 xeons even if XXX5 sku have igpu

[steel stream]

also burn in is not really an issue with modern day OLEDs

[merry stirrup]

i think that started on haswell

[steel stream]

just don't leave it on for hours with a static image

[thick frost]

Adorable 256kb of ram

[jaunty horizon]

Thought about that but on the Intel Side it said it has one

[merry stirrup]

you had to have been lookin at the v3

WAIT i lied

okay carry on my bad im blind

[jaunty horizon]

https://www.intel.de/content/www/de/de/products/sku/65729/intel-xeon-processor-e31245-v2-8m-cache-3-40-ghz/specifications.html

[steel stream]

intel.de

[merry stirrup]

nuhuh i figured out my own stupidity

wont make me click on that phishing link mister dutch

[steel stream]

Ja
Ja
Ja
Ja

[jaunty horizon]

DE = Deutsch = German

[merry stirrup]

nope youre scammer

also these xeon cpus get extra pcie lanes over consumer oness

[shell void]

im coming up on 10,000 hours on my LG A2 that i leave on while i sleep

[steel stream]

we spell processor with a C here

[merry stirrup]

20 vs 16 and such

[jaunty horizon]

Wenn ich dich scammen wollen würde, dann doch nicht mit einer Deutschen Intel Website

[steel stream]

doesn't guilty have around the same and still nothing

[merry stirrup]

hes cursing me

guys help

[jaunty horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-bird-gif-953053367112106102

[shell void]

i think he has like 13000 hours or something and he's used his in HDR as a pc monitor

[steel stream]

can confirm

[shell void]

which is a worst case scenario for oled burn in

[merry stirrup]

THIS IS SO FIRE

thank you for this

[steel stream]

bite of '87

[floral spear]

70 inch Vizio TV

[jaunty horizon]

Do not steal from me. Dont you dare

[merry stirrup]

pitbull when unattended toddler

[jaunty horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-squirrel-gif-10948256155380406181

[merry stirrup]

fawk you

[shell void]

well maybe other than an old couple leaving it on fox news 24/7 until the fox logo is etched in

[steel stream]

yeah that is ultimate worst case

"I'm watching that don't change it"

[shell void]

they wont notice it if it's always on fox anyway xd

[merry stirrup]

idk something with a grid of contrastey lines

[merry stirrup]

probably would be worse

rather than slight change to urple on whites you get a clear grid on your screen lol

[merry stirrup]

2 windows right next to eachother or like 4 windows in a grid

[floral spear]

Heartwarming: Couple is stuck watching dog shit 24/7

[edgy laurel]

Less than I thought

[merry stirrup]

youd get a crosshair burnt into the middle of yo screen

[steel stream]

you've relapsed with Destiny content

[edgy laurel]

i'm fookin hooked

[jaunty horizon]

i will curse you for real if it doesnt work

[steel stream]

why does it have to have cooler activties then the actual game

[edgy laurel]

dude i dunno but its a blast

[merry stirrup]

my floppa strat:

[thick frost]

CPU

[floral spear]

Why are you beefing with a German furry floppa

[merry stirrup]

check userbenchmark for your specific computer or similar ones and see if someone is stupid enough to have submit a result with your ideal hw config

[pure garnet]

that is why we have a qled and not an oled

[floral spear]

Central Pooping Unit

[edgy laurel]

whoa there floppa

[steel stream]

you just lost all your street cred

[jaunty horizon]

Ew Usermenchbark

[merry stirrup]

userbenchmark because thats what low end budget pcs run

[steel stream]

I put like 14hrs into Hollow Knight this weekend, I am also hooked

[thick frost]

4mhz I think

[merry stirrup]

you cannot find an easier way to tell me if an e3-1230 is compatible with a dell optiplex 790

[floral spear]

I put in 14 hours into Dark Tide

I'm hooked, it's so fun but I also wish my mom didn't destroy my microled monitor

[edgy laurel]

i've got a whole roster going

[merry stirrup]

because dell themselves will say its not

leading you to second guess forum results

[pure garnet]

https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/Q65_Express.html

[steel stream]

bro what the fuck I was at like 700 power

[merry stirrup]

you literally never know whats up with an oem pc which is why i gave the example

[edgy laurel]

numbers go up game is on point here

[merry stirrup]

the same computer is not compatible with ivy bridge

[steel stream]

holy moly man, also I dig the polaris lance

sniper rifle seems cool too

[pure garnet]

yeah the q65 chipset isn’t

[edgy laurel]

my Tan-2 is a beast, easily my favorite to play

[jaunty horizon]

I hope that the Cooling solution doesnt explode. Its made for 35W TDP man. If the 3470T really gives 35W of Heat, then the Solution can handle like 50 Watts TDP max

[pure garnet]

the optiplex 790 is what i have at work

[floral spear]

Should I eat fries or go to sleep

[merry stirrup]

throttle stop

[merry stirrup]

it was my first gaming computer

[merry stirrup]

see if it works on it currently, no reason it wont later

[jaunty horizon]

Yea yeah i know. But these CPUs arent binned for Efficiency. So the 1245 V2 might perform worse than a 3770T @45W you know?

[merry stirrup]

it wont

theyre literally the same chips just worse

[edgy laurel]

its an interesting twist, locking "pre-made" guardians to certain weapon types and playstyles. it works.

[merry stirrup]

maybe even the T's are worse lol

bin wise*

[steel stream]

def works for a mobile game

[jaunty horizon]

SO yo are telling me, provided the Thermal Solution can handle 50W TDP, that your 1245 V2 is equivalent, if not better at 50W capped with throttlestop?

[merry stirrup]

the 1245v2 should be equivalent if not another 100mhz faster to a 3770

they have the same igpu

they are the same under da hood microcode wise

the e3 1230+ xeons have always been the method for anything 4th gen and lower

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-pours-100-billion-into-openai-mega-deal-announces-10gw-ai-factories self making money machine

Nvidia invests in OpenAI, OpenAI buys more gpus cycle repeats

Also 100 billion is insanity

[merry stirrup]

so we buying open ai stock 🔥

[shell void]

holy crap that’s a lot of money even for nvidia

10 GW is also an insane amount of gpu

[steel stream]

they better hope for no bubble burst

[shell void]

i think ai bubble burst is cope unfortunately

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

machine learning is a part of humanity now and it’s never leaving

[jaunty horizon]

You wanna bet on it?

You will buy me a 3770T if your 1245 V2 performs worse at CB23 than a 3770T on avg.

And if your 1245V2 works, i will send you a package with German Sweets (Postage is 16€, Sweets another 10€)

[steel stream]

yeahhhh

for better or for worse

[jaunty horizon]

(USA Postage)

[steel stream]

but jesus what an insane article

[shell void]

i will limit my use of it if i can

[wraith steeple]

At this point, I'm considering going into AI since "if you can't beat them, join them"

[shell void]

yeah that’s such a large amount of money

[steel stream]

yeah I am trying to pass my classes without AI tools

[wraith steeple]

IDK man....

The outlook for ECE is looking....

[steel stream]

:(

[wraith steeple]

Concerning

[steel stream]

See as Comp Engineer I am trying to stay far away from most software stuff and try to get into some sort of hardware/design niche

[hoary hatch]

Eat fries in your sleep

[wraith steeple]

Same here, it's just fuck man.....

[floral spear]

Ok I'll choke on fries

[hoary hatch]

But only $5B for Intel what a bunch of pricks

[floral spear]

Why you not blue anymore

[steel stream]

dissapointed

[steel stream]

no bueno man

[jaunty horizon]

@merry stirrup Waiting for an Answere :3

[proven reef]

I should stop tickling my cat but she makes a specific sound that's so cute everytime I do it

She doesn't seem to mind the tickling either

[merry stirrup]

just let it thermal throttle it should be faster regardless 💀💀

but no i’m not a betting man and im sure postage would be more than 16 dolla

and 3770T’s are still like, 40$ for some reason

that’s a kit of bdie

[jaunty horizon]

From Germany to USA, max weight 2KG (4 Pounds roughly)

[merry stirrup]

wild

this freak ass cat keeps biting my fingers

[hexed karma]

how long did it take for you to get estella

or how much more likely

[jaunty horizon]

Exactly. My theory is that they are binned for Efficiency and therefore perform better under limited conditions. Thats why they will outperform the 1245V2 at 50W tdp

[merry stirrup]

the cost has nothing to do with the bin

50w tdp is nearly what a normal chip draws

[edgy laurel]

used lumia, so free. got her and Umeko on the first 10 pull

i got very lucky

[hexed karma]

huge W my luck has never been to good when it comes to mobile games

[jaunty horizon]

No but the CPU itself is binned because its an 45W TDP CPU and therefore binned for efficiency

[pure garnet]

wait destiny rising is a gacha?

[merry stirrup]

they just have a lower operating voltage

[hexed karma]

i've tried pulling for gwenne like 20 times and didn't get anything

[jaunty horizon]

Then you should have nothing to fear except a Pakage from germany

[edgy laurel]

i've never played mobile games until this. only am because it works so well on PC

[edgy laurel]

yeah, i've had to learn what that means

[merry stirrup]

you’re not pressuring me into a silly bet bro

[pure garnet]

$40 gambit on some ewaste cpu isn't anything i'd take either

[hexed karma]

it's honestly one of the few with a really good pc port, i'd say playing on pc is even better than on mobile tbh bc i think they have the inputs capped on mobile. like you aren't able to change perspective while doing a certain number of actions and it's kinda a kneecap

[jaunty horizon]

Its no Gambit if he is so sure

[steel stream]

gambit?

[hexed karma]

also as far as they go it's probably one of the better one's i've seen. COD mobile and PUBG are really in your face about the purchaces and in the case of COD, it can be outright p2w sometimes

[pure garnet]

destiny 2 reference

[steel stream]

🤯

[edgy laurel]

its not a port, you use emulation but i know what you mean. And its far better than any tiny screen.

[steel stream]

god I love LG 42" C series

[edgy laurel]

I had no idea android emulation could work so well

it feels nearly native

[pure garnet]

what are you using

google play games beta?

[edgy laurel]

Mumu

[hexed karma]

the official website has it's own direct download with an emulator specifically for this game

[edgy laurel]

what the dev recommends. i trued Bluestacks, felt like ass

[random flame]

Sure, though I think most of the current generative stuff is the main part of that market that will either die off or ultimately doom itself into a niche at some point.

[hexed karma]

i remember streaming it to a discord when it first launched publicly and my friends didn't even realize it was supposed to be a mobile game at first

[steel stream]

bluestacks is garbage

[random flame]

AI has long had a place. That direction was not it.

[edgy laurel]

if you didn't tell someone, i'm not sure how they would know. its really impressive for what it is

[merry stirrup]

40$ is the price of an entire better mini pc

[pure garnet]

literally

[thick frost]

This is safe right

[pure garnet]

i paid a bit more than that for my 7500t box

[hexed karma]

anything cool is dangerous so i wouldn't be worried

at least if you die they won't think you're boring

[pure garnet]

shoutout lenovo for specing 3 dp but 0 hdmi on this thing

[thick frost]

8 inch crt can’t be that powerful right

[merry stirrup]

my mini pc except it has a 4570 or 4460

[merry stirrup]

shoutout whatever business speced these

[pure garnet]

ik but

bizarre config

[merry stirrup]

triple monitor setup at work

business monitors are surprisingly not hdmi for the most part

[indigo walrus]

Not for business purposes. DisplayPort is usually standard, then you can configure the 2 upper slots with other display connections as necessary.

[pure garnet]

i wouldn't know i'm still on vga

[merry stirrup]

pain

that analogue crunch

[proven reef]

I saw a dude shove a GPU in there

[wraith steeple]

Luckily I do have a Plan B and C on deck. Also have heard a lot of employers are real dickheads towards ECE graduates despite that they could go into a wide variety of jobs in practice. I'm trying to be optimistic but yeah...... RIP bozo both of us I guess

[pure garnet]

im just applying at my isp next week

and hoping for the best there

[merry stirrup]

fire

[jaunty horizon]

Well then, im not betting on a CPU that COULD work but wont on my own. Im waiting for a 3770T. I have time. Someday the CPU will come.

[merry stirrup]

hear me out: haswell mini pc

[pure garnet]

does germany not have “return policy”

[merry stirrup]

not when it’s 20 euro from a random 2nd hand site

[pure garnet]

wait you were gonna blow 30 euro on candy but can’t eat the loss of a 20 euro cpu?

[jaunty horizon]

Yes this way its at least fun

[merry stirrup]

return policy

you seriously cannot care about 0-10% performance that much in a 12 year old AIO

[edgy laurel]

oh and @steel stream inherent shoot to loot for heavy on all guns

[merry stirrup]

is it a little cursed to have the bezel of my second monitor tucked behind my primary

[wraith steeple]

I got some IRL stuff going on so probably won't be blue again til a good while

It's also a combination of other things

[jaunty horizon]

It would bite me for the rest of the Ownership of the device knowing i could have gotten more/better with just a little patience or like 5-10 bucks more

So yes

[merry stirrup]

an unnoticeable difference

without specifically looking at a score counter

crayz

[thick frost]

Max ram 🔥

[merry stirrup]

but anyways, return policy

[jaunty horizon]

Its noticeable in thermics. 10% more or less efficient/Watts can make the difference between 95°C and 85°C

[merry stirrup]

.

[jaunty horizon]

So it would be noticeable not only in Temps but also in loudness of the Fan of the Thermal solution

[merry stirrup]

ive said it 3 times dawg

[wraith steeple]

4MB RAM

[merry stirrup]

Larry

[thick frost]

As if you’d need more!

[merry stirrup]

a gigabyte of ram will do the trick

[thick frost]

Can’t take more than 4mb

[jaunty horizon]

You think thats worth disassembling and reassembling the device at worst 3 Times, thats on you

[thick frost]

that’s not a joke

[wraith steeple]

I know I'm jesting is all

[merry stirrup]

youre the one who thinks its worth it 😭 its clearly a hobby for you 😭

you are the one who is bothering to upgrade a 12+ year old all in one

26 euro is already more than the device is worth

[jaunty horizon]

And i already did it like 5 or 6 times. And im straining plastic clips enough. I do not want the device and the clips to break

Thats a nightmare

[wraith steeple]

1GB RAM was an astronomical amount for when that quote was made. Even in the year 2000, half of that was considered a ton

[merry stirrup]

oh yeah i know

https://tenor.com/view/1gb-do-the-trick-ram-gif-24048735

[wraith steeple]

256MB was a realistic amount for a reasonable high end build of that time

In 2000

[merry stirrup]

im a youngin but i know computer lore or whatever

kinda

enough to get by

[jaunty horizon]

Well yes. It will roughly double the Performance. And make it run good ish instead of only meh ish.

Suitable for a secondary PC

[proven reef]

My cat is too cute of a purrito

She's literally hugging my arm rn

She's tiny too

[thick frost]

Not bad for a 35 year old hard drive

80 real meggy bites that is

[wraith steeple]

Yeh that's about average for it's era

[thick frost]

Took 15 minutes to format on this 4 or 8mhz (I’m not sure) cpu

Computer only shipped with up to a 40mb drive

[wraith steeple]

Some of the retro computing markets have gotten a bit silly

[thick frost]

I got this SE for $15, got the max 4mb ram kit (4x1mb) for $16 and a new hard drive for $30

had a spare pram battery in another computer I put in it too

[wraith steeple]

Though ESS Audio Drive sound cards and Cirrus Logic VLB stuff isn't too bad in pricing

[thick frost]

I have a ati vga wonder 16 in a tandy

crts look friggen sick dude

[wraith steeple]

Thought of copping one of those Compaq Presario AIOs (not to be confused with the liquid coolers) from the 486-early Pentium era

[thick frost]

Best I can do is a custom of the era 286 clone pc or a gateway performance with dual pentium 3s

[wraith steeple]

NGL I thought of building our old 94 family computer for funsies but about that ....

[thick frost]

dingle computer

Can you tell that ginormous floppy drive is 2nd hand

[wraith steeple]

Yes. That 5 ¼ floppy looks out of place but hey, I have a soft spot for this stuff

[thick frost]

It was that or an open spot

and that floppy drive was $2 and idk if it works

[wraith steeple]

Fair

[thick frost]

I technically have a colour matched cover but it’s not right as it doesn’t have the slots

[wraith steeple]

I wish my area had this level of retro gold mines

💀

[thick frost]

If only

There’s like actually $2200 in this photo lmao

And I got them by the side of the road

Besides that hp on the end, that’s a sleeper as it’s guts died

[wraith steeple]

I see that glorious turbo display

[thick frost]

That’s the custom of era 286 clone pc

I got it with all of its guts loose and just put it back together

It’s a pretty insane machine

IBM P166+ cpu which is a clone of a cyrix which is a clone of a 286

Has an ISA slot creative sound blaster sound card with expandable memory that takes EDO ram sticks, it’s wild

[wraith steeple]

AWE32?

[thick frost]

Either that or 16

It’s a pain to take apart as you take the entire top, and both side panels off as it’s one piece of steel

Think I’ll put the old ram that came out the Mac se in that sound card

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt

I don't know enough to say for sure but something in my brain is telling me thats not very efficient

[indigo walrus]

The turbos need turbos on their turbos to turbo the turbos turbo turbos.

[edgy laurel]

don't forget the turbos

[teal orbit]

laminar flow is not real

it's what the higher-ups want you to believe is good so you stay down at the bottom

[edgy laurel]

like.. even a 6L cummins is there enough exhaust pressure to even spin them all lol

this isn't mathing in my head

[teal orbit]

time to make a simulation

[arctic bronze]

gonna need a v12 just to spool them all lmao

[edgy laurel]

i wouldn't think the number of cylinders is an issue

[teal orbit]

if you manage to spool them all at max speed say goodbye to the connecting rods

[edgy laurel]

moreso displacement

[arctic bronze]

more exhaust being blown out

[teal orbit]

if youre gonna have so much more displacement you're gonna want some more cylinders to make it smooth enough

although i don't know if that's how it works or even matters here

[edgy laurel]

thats a Ram so its either the 5.9 or 6.7L inline 6 Cummins

diesel, obviously

[teal orbit]

hear me out

13.4L V12

[edgy laurel]

na, the cool V12's are all low displacement

[fervent elm]

https://youtu.be/8XKubqcgJxU?si=7v_yLfdkZVgF6Ior
Heres the video that created that monster

[edgy laurel]

Oh perfect, I figured there was a story there

and of course its whistlindiesel

[merry stirrup]

https://www.amazon.com/Port-2-5GB-Switch-Unmanaged-10-100-1000Mbps/dp/B0CWTY4Y6F/

is this 2.5gbit or 1gbit i cant tell

all signs point tto 2.5g but the name doesnt

[fervent elm]

Hmmm
Nah its 500 kbit

[edgy laurel]

its "multi-gig"

[indigo walrus]

"A turbocharger supplements your engine through nuclear reactions it activates your pully springs." Ah, yes, right, the science tells no lies.

[merry stirrup]

whatever that means 😭

ill just send it

[edgy laurel]

90% of those cheap chinese 2.5GbE 5-port switches are all the same chipset

[merry stirrup]

i just wanted to make sure its actually 2.5g

cause the name says 10-100-1000Mbps

[edgy laurel]

yeah, they don't brand well

[indigo walrus]

The name has to include that, otherwise silly people would believe the switch can't do slower speeds.

It's like how products on marketplace sites put a bajillion keywords in the product title.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonVine/comments/1cdxkr3/product_names_are_out_of_control/

[edgy laurel]

reminds me of edward on the forum. his signature of his system is just every parts FULL amazon listing name

[indigo walrus]

Good to know these Stoneware Bowls are for "soup bowls, salad, dessert, ice cream, pasta, ramen" BUT DON'T YOU EVER PUT RICE IN THEM. You can't put rice in them. It wasn't in the product title. They cannot hold rice.

[shell void]

5 rj45 ports that support 10/100/1000/2500
1 sfp+ 10Gb port

[edgy laurel]

all about seo

[teal orbit]

you say they're silly for thinking that but then you go look over at the fiber world

[jaunty horizon]

@merry stirrup you know, maybe youre right. I just looked into the All in One Marked and it seems theyre pretty cheap. MAybe i can find one with a better CPU, 27" would be perfect and even HDMI in isnt uncommon

This ones too expensive, but it has everything i want and can even replace my broken bedroom TV

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/top-lenovo-ideacentre-a730-i7-2-4-ghz-8gb-ram-all-in-one-pc/2919563523-228-2487

This one with like 8th gen i3/i5 would be perfect.

[rigid orchid]

What are some good 4k streaming TV boxes under 100 usd? Was looking at getting the onn 4k pro.

[indigo walrus]

I mean, with Ethernet, auto-negotiation has been common for years now. (Except on specialized / Enterprise gear - there it boils down to the configuration.) But yeah, fiber is another ballgame entirely.

[dry elbow]

i mean the fiber doesn’t do anything negotiation wise, it’s all about what the ports and transceivers support

you get to do a little song and dance of “hey what can do you do”

[brisk jolt]

the turbolag finna be wild

[dry elbow]

spin up time of 3-5 business days

[brisk jolt]

i mean, the advantage of multi turbos is that if your RPMs suddenly drop, you wont have as much downtime as a single turbo

[thick frost]

The OS is installed

I’ve had this thing for like 7 months and have bought floppy disks specifically for this because it’s more fun than sd cards

[neat root]

Hiiiiii Neggid

🥰

[merry stirrup]

i got a 7th gen all in one for 7.99 at a thrift store

well 7.50

[low sorrel]

i read that very differently with that typo

[neat root]

Doesnt read so well in english i see

[low sorrel]

what you gonna do with it?

[merry stirrup]

prolly resell i dont need it

[green marsh]

use it as home assistant panel (unfortunately probably no touchscreen)

[merry stirrup]

i don’t think so

haven’t used it much. needs a dell power brick

or at least not HP

bios update doesn’t help and there’s no settings that help

booting it without the oem adaptor is a pain

[low sorrel]

was gonna offer to buy it for my cousin but shipping is probably more then what it's worth

[merry stirrup]

i found out that if you leave a keeb plugged in

it won’t let you boot past the warning

but if you turn it on and then plug in a keyboard it allows you to skip

i assume because it also has a no keyboard warning that lets you press enter to skip somehow

so that’s goated

could use it as a proxmox head

[viscid silo]

wut do i use to wipe dry thermal paste with

can i just use paper towel and 91% alcohol

[low sorrel]

Sooo

TIL you can get temp banned from Reddit for saying If I was an F1 driver I would crash into max Verstappen

Granted I said the last part only but context exists

[opaque spindle]

does 400 mhz matter that much in ram? they put in the wrong one and it's kinda far away to go and change it

[low sorrel]

probably not more NMI please

[brave panther]

Any diffrence in CL?

Or is it same

[low sorrel]

also excuse me wtf is that server tag

[opaque spindle]

30 for 6kmhz 36 for 5600 mhz one

[opaque spindle]

it's a bird tag

[brave panther]

Get 6000 @ 30 cl

[opaque spindle]

alr I'll go get it changed then

[opaque spindle]

what's NMI tho?

[low sorrel]

needs more info

[cold bone]

could somebody help me untangle my brain?
I got two servers and want to access a database running on server B from server A.
I setup a docker container on server A running wireguard and connected to it from server B.
I can access server A from server B but not the other way around (not even from inside the container running the wireguard server), and i'm not sure if it's a configuration issue or whether i need to run a second container on server A running wireguard as a client connecting to it as well...

i'm sure AllowedIPs is the culprit here which's definition i'm not 100% able to grasp... from a client perspective i understood it as a list of IPs or ranges that the client should connect to through the tunnel

[brave panther]

Nat fuckery detected

[cold bone]

is it though? shouldn't i technically be able to ping the connected machine from the server container over it's VPN IP?

[midnight night]

#networking

[jaunty horizon]

We don't have those in Germany. Normal second hand shops sure, but they inform themselves pretty well and sell for expensive prices most of the time

[topaz veldt]

A thrift store in the US is a "second hand" shop

[wraith steeple]

Duronaut and PhaseSheet PTM my beloved

[fringe vigil]

The world was supposed to end today

[edgy laurel]

according to who, jorj

[wraith steeple]

[frank zealot]

weird religious cultists

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

jorj

[fringe vigil]

Bible

it’s trending people are saying the rapture happening

It’s obvs not

[edgy laurel]

figures

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[wise dragon]

Bro the amd is so poor

[edgy laurel]

meme material

[wise dragon]

My processor stopped with 3 months of use and was still under warranty I went to the store and they sent the board to ASRock to do the tests and see if the problem was with the board and the store asked amd to collect the cpu and they said they only collected with evidence that it was the cpu that was spoiled in how much if it was Intel they would have already sent another cpu from what the store owner told me

They needed evidence

And I’m waiting for this 2 weeks already

[wise dragon]

Ofc they not poor but they have a lot of money and don’t trust a shop

[cerulean cosmos]

https://www.newegg.com/nzxt-atx-motherboard-amd-b650e-am5/p/2MG-007A-00005?Item=9SIAD6HJKP9964 hmm...

[cerulean cosmos]

?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4818800 this a good deal?

[edgy laurel]

is it cheaper than anything else on PCPP with those stats?

Then yes. If not, then no or its right inline with whats expected.

[steel stream]

this guy gets it

[edgy laurel]

Whats the question. I'm assuming you're in shock over the price, but the fact is Newegg also has a marketplace for 3rd party resellers, means you'll see all sorts of wacky shit. Most just auto-ignore it.

[cerulean cosmos]

oh yeah i knew that they buy/sell 3rd party, i was wodering why you were showing me that, just to show where it really came from or...?

[edgy laurel]

In case you weren't aware thats the reason for the stupid price.

So it shouldn't have been a shock

[cerulean cosmos]

no i was more talking about the board itself

i saw the price

[edgy laurel]

all you did was link it, no context

B650 so its probably out of production

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-job-description-hints-at-high-end-desktop-with-discrete-graphics-for-gaming

[edgy laurel]

[steel stream]

A man can cope

[edgy laurel]

Indeed. Indeed.

[cerulean cosmos]

https://www.newegg.com/azza-atx-mid-tower-nct-cases-black-grey-csaz-812-diamond/p/2AM-004W-000A1?item=9SIB2TBKDU1236&

lol

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/zavala-indeed-destiny-destiny2-vanguard-gif-10013199

[edgy laurel]

rip

[steel stream]

gone too soon

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/pope-leo-refuses-to-authorise-an-ai-pope-and-declares-the-technology-an-empty-cold-shell-that-will-do-great-damage-to-what-humanity-is-about/ I thought this was an Onion article at first

[edgy laurel]

good

"Someone recently asked authorization to create an artificial me so that anybody could sign onto this website and have a personal audience with 'the Pope'," said the pontiff. "This artificial intelligence Pope would give them answers to their questions, and I said, 'I'm not going to authorize that'."

Smart guy.

[whole coral]

Yeahhh

I like AI but it shouldn’t automate everything

[steel stream]

That would be insanely creepy

We have already had AI's that have told people to harm themselves, imagine talking to the AI Pope, and it says to do something like that

[green marsh]

says Indeed and doesn't show Teal'c, blasphemer

[edgy laurel]

That is Zavala line

[steel stream]

Zavala through and through

[edgy laurel]

Never got into Stargate

I remember the first movie with James Spader

[steel stream]

I watched the first movie too, seemed interesting but eh

[shell void]

confessing my sins to ai pope

[steel stream]

AI Pope will talk to Jesus for me 🙏

[shell void]

i only confide in saint patrick gelsinger

[fringe vigil]

they have alien technology

[steel stream]

what?

[fringe vigil]

the vatican

[steel stream]

what?

[fringe vigil]

bro dont know

[frank zealot]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0F4Y6N6PW

Honestly not terrible. 380 USD for 16GB

[edgy laurel]

yeah, the alien technology that jorj knows about. of course, how could we forget

[frank zealot]

Don't forget about the emotionally aware AI that wasn't supposed to be online that what's his troll nuts found by accident before....

[fringe vigil]

does oled have a stand that u can adjust the tv

[edgy laurel]

I'm lost

[frank zealot]

does IPS have a stand?

[edgy laurel]

does OLED have a stand, this doesn't even make sense lol

[shell void]

@pure garnet your next psu

[fringe vigil]

like a monitor arm

[pure garnet]

it’s not seasonic

[edgy laurel]

Jorj you haven't even mentioned what display you're talking about

[fringe vigil]

oled c5

[frank zealot]

do OLED TVs have mounting holes on the back so you can attach them to a monitor arm or wall mount?

Is that what you're trying to ask?

[steel stream]

crazy pills

[edgy laurel]

Yes, C5 42's can be VESA mounted ith the necessary adapter

[shell void]

it has vesa mounting holes but they’re wider, you have to get an adapter plate to use monitor arms with one

[edgy laurel]

on an arm

and one that can handle i think 21lbs or so

[fringe vigil]

shit

[shell void]

it’s kinda annoying

if your floor and desk are level then i’d just use the included feet

[fringe vigil]

i wanna swivel so i can watch shjows on my bed

[frank zealot]

you need to look at a Monitor/TVs weight and then check your Arm and see what it supports.

I'd always keep the monitor weight a good bit below what the arm "supports"

If your arm supports 35lbs?

Keep the screen weight down to 30 or below kinda thing

[steel stream]

gonna need a real hefty arm

[fringe vigil]

my god

[shell void]

this is kinda a pain in the ass to handle by yourself

[edgy laurel]

guy needs to clean his mouse mat

[shell void]

i have mine on a floating stand and i ask my dad for help when i want to remove it

[edgy laurel]

yeah I can imagine

[frank zealot]

I kinda hate that keyboard

[steel stream]

I am wondering how they do the cable runs for the monitor

[steel stream]

performance enhancing sweat stains

[shell void]

i’d probably go with something like this if i had a level floor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073F8D8ZZ

[fringe vigil]

whys he need an arm lol

[frank zealot]

previous pic

[shell void]

you can adjust height and swivel without it being a pain in the ass

[edgy laurel]

look at the first pic

[shell void]

and without clamping it to the desk

[edgy laurel]

he mentions in the post so he could tilt it forward slighly

[steel stream]

yeah I saw the sleeve, but trying to see where it runs from, would just be a tripping hazard

[fringe vigil]

is that c5 in that pic

[edgy laurel]

ngl I put spacers behind the backside of the legs to give it an ever so slight tilt

[edgy laurel]

Its a 42" C series, which doesn't matter for this purpose

[frank zealot]

It doesn't look like there's a walkway between the desk and brick wall, so probably not a trip hazard

[steel stream]

ah yeah you right

[shell void]

yeah im gonna save this or later

[edgy laurel]

oh I didn't even notice the PC

[frank zealot]

So, want a laugh?

That computer at work that refuses to not go to sleep?

I'm reimaging it to see if something in windows was fucked up. But beyond that, if that doesn't work I figured out the dumbest Zoomer-level fix for keeping the PC from going to sleep on me.

[edgy laurel]

hmm, i like this.

[shell void]

basically a pedestal monitor stand for a tv

[frank zealot]

I ordered one of those goddamned mouse jiggler plugs to keep it awake >.<

[edgy laurel]

I was going to say, something to jiggle the mouse?

[frank zealot]

yup, thank you pandemic? I guess?

[steel stream]

still have to buy an adapter :(

[edgy laurel]

I just hope it can go low enough

[shell void]

seems like it does

[edgy laurel]

lil jon now playing in my head

i blame myself

[pure garnet]

fedex has my hdrn’t tv on the way

[shell void]

dam true it only goes up to 200x200

i’m sure there’s something similar with a larger plate

[pure garnet]

does lg not use normal holes

[shell void]

TVs don’t use 100x100 vesa like monitors do

[steel stream]

LG uses 300x200

for the 42" OLED at least

[edgy laurel]

Oh damn you still need an adapter? thats lame

[pure garnet]

my ancient one did so i kinda figured it was standard

but i’d imagine oleds are heavier

[shell void]

i’m sure there are similar stands meant for larger tvs that support 300x200 natively

[edgy laurel]

it is standard, but for larger format displays the spacing can differ

[shell void]

you’re not gonna hang up a large tv with 100x100 that’s just silly

hisense 110uxn is 1100x600 xddddd

[edgy laurel]

I wonder if they're just leaving out TV specific stuff here https://www.ergotron.com/en-us/support/vesa-standard

[pure garnet]

oh my new tv is 400x400

[edgy laurel]

at that point its probably not a VESA standard lol

[pure garnet]

i hope my local best buy gets the 136inch hisense

i need to see that thing in person to believe it

[cerulean cosmos]

@edgy laurel could i get a lets say 2 k monitor with hdr for under $200?

[edgy laurel]

no

[cerulean cosmos]

thought so

[edgy laurel]

well

[pure garnet]

you could get “hdr” maybe

[edgy laurel]

depends on what you mean by "support"

[shell void]

maybe actually, lcd is so cheap nowadays

it’ll be a crappy chinese miniled monitor though

[edgy laurel]

support as in the ability to turn on HDR? Yeah, probably

[pure garnet]

i think i still have to try the 350 nit hdr before i shut it off

[edgy laurel]

but $250 is what you're looking at for passable bright HDR performance

[shell void]

are you american?

[cerulean cosmos]

well damn what should i expect to pay? for something half decent

[cerulean cosmos]

yep

[edgy laurel]

$279

[steel stream]

probs 250+

[shell void]

this is probably your best $200 option https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F4X7V78J

no local dimming, but you’re not getting good HDR in your price bracket anyway

[edgy laurel]

https://a.co/d/9l9Pav1

Best for passable HDR

$280

probably better than passable honestly

it has a slightly newer sister thats a Best Buy exclusive, the Q27G40XMN. Thats $299 right now though. Sometimes both of them hit $250.

[cerulean cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXkDYd

hows that

just to get me to am5

[pure garnet]

why are you buying a 360 aio for something that can be cooled by a paperclip worth of metal

[cerulean cosmos]

oh lol forgot to take that off

[edgy laurel]

Can save you $40 or so

granted, that AIO was cheap for a 360

[pure garnet]

you can shave a lot of money in that list but i don’t has the time to dig through part picker rn

[cerulean cosmos]

personaly i really would like to have 32gb of ram

[edgy laurel]

32GB is the minimum for DDR5

[brisk jolt]

holy shit 300hz for a QHD display being $200 is lowk crazy

[edgy laurel]

don't achtully me, i said what I said

[pure garnet]

that wasn’t even a thing to consider cutting

[brisk jolt]

ik a guy who got 16gb ram on his am5 platform from some prebuilt company and now he regrets it

-same prebuilt company who puts bombs in their pcs

[steel stream]

yeah just switch to an air cooler, and if you want a decent introduction to HDR get the monitor Guilty sent

[shell void]

6 cores and 32gb of ram minimum in 2025

[edgy laurel]

shitty 8GB DIMM's were an easy way for SI's to cheap out

[pure garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3HW9gn

[gloomy vault]

FX 4100 + 32gb ddr3 🤑 🙏

[topaz veldt]

8GB DDR5 should be illegal

[pure garnet]

4060 for 1440p hdr seems tough but

might be doable

[frank zealot]

there are actually 2 monitor standards:

75x75 and 100x100

But for TVs the spacing can get a LOT bigger, since TVs get a lot bigger too

[brisk jolt]

sch pcs also have 32gb ddr3

[pure garnet]

yeah i was just going off my almost decade old tv that used 100x100

[edgy laurel]

more I think?

[gloomy vault]

meh its a strictly a 1080p card imo even my 2080ti @2200mhz struggles at 1440

[pure garnet]

i don’t disagree with you but it’s marked as purchased so i didn’t wanna take it off the list

[frank zealot]

but those first two only work on sub-10 lb screens, which isn't much of a thing

[brisk jolt]

ive used a 4060 with a 1440p display before and it was like racing up the hill with a 90 horsepower car

[frank zealot]

and sub-4lb? jesus those don't weigh anything

[brisk jolt]

shits not accelerating at all

[edgy laurel]

need a lighter car

[pure garnet]

sub 4 pound? we got vesa for phones now

i used to use a 2060 at 1440p and it worked but vram was tight

[brisk jolt]

reminds me of ID 4th stage where the opponent’s trick to beat the 86 downhill was to use a lighter car, being the capuccino

[edgy laurel]

When I moved to 3440x1440 I briefly still had a GTX 970

[frank zealot]

I've got a monitor here that has a single 1/4-20 threaded mount on the back lol

But that ain't VESA lol

[edgy laurel]

shortly moved to a GTX 1070

its all about the games that are current at the time

[cerulean cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXkDYd

[edgy laurel]

hell I was playing at over 1440p on HD6970's

[cerulean cosmos]

im currently on 1080 60hz

[pure garnet]

that’s the same as before

[edgy laurel]

back then I didn't know what VRAM was so all was good

ignorance is bliss

[pure garnet]

the one i sent was -$70 and had better memory

[steel stream]

which they can use to get the HDR capable monitor

[pure garnet]

fr

my 20 tubes of paste arrive today

[cerulean cosmos]

yours is 804 mine is 754

similar memory

[pure garnet]

yours is 871

[cerulean cosmos]

oh hold on

[cerulean cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/liverygone/saved/M329t6

this one

[pure garnet]

idk what that montech unit is but

[cerulean cosmos]

its good

[pure garnet]

considering it's not modular and 80+ white

[merry stirrup]

century?

[pure garnet]

i would not be buying it

[pure garnet]

oh boy a c-

[cerulean cosmos]

damn, raiting got reduced

[pure garnet]

it's 80+ white

there was no scenario in which it wasn't awful

[topaz veldt]

Is a C- really that bad, its still passing!

[pure garnet]

i really don't get the point of buying a psu below a unless you're on a mega stretched budget

it's the main part that can actively kill every other part on failure

[edgy laurel]

Bro. @topaz veldt

WTF. This looks like a 90's dashpod for a civic. https://linustechtips.com/topic/1623402-we-built-a-pc-monitor-that-re-imagines-what-hardware-monitoring-can-be/

[topaz veldt]

ha it really does

[edgy laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38daLbWln5o

[topaz veldt]

wtf is this

this has to be a joke

[edgy laurel]

has to be

[cerulean cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/liverygone/saved/M329t6 check out this psu

[edgy laurel]

its literally an AutoZone special

[steel stream]

who needs units

[topaz veldt]

its like autometer gauges with an ADC programmed to take like... API calls

[topaz veldt]

like wtf is this

[steel stream]

And it lacks any indication of what you are measuring

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ae86-trueno-initial-d-speed-gr86-gif-27072763

[topaz veldt]

yeah someone found gauges, arduino, and APIs and is trying to sell a thing

[cerulean cosmos]

1000w for $93

[topaz veldt]

lol yup

[edgy laurel]

like how

[edgy laurel]

too difficult

[topaz veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXpM3XwlXio

[edgy laurel]

people who know nothing about cars may find this interesting. I just see a cheapo autozone gauge pod

hell they aren't even using nice gauges lol

[topaz veldt]

lol and there's literally no way to tell WHAT its displaying

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/defi-defi-gauges-gauges-defi-japan-jdm-gif-1136245139038718533

[topaz veldt]

also its 2025 why arent they OLED screens

[edgy laurel]

I can get behind the argument of nice analog displays but.. they aren't even nice

[topaz veldt]

but also its not an analog measurement

so like.. there's an ADC involved here so all you will see is stepper motor shit

Its not like a coolant sensor with a variable resistance and nice smooth sweep

[edgy laurel]

Oh no, the commenters on the forum are defending it

[topaz veldt]

of course they are

most prob don't have a license let alone remember A pillar and dash pods

"overbuilt"!?

[edgy laurel]

yeah.. that is that thin wall cheapo plastic too

I can feel that

[wise bear]

I can hear the hollowness with scraping my nail across it in my head

[merry stirrup]

have i got the thing for you

[steel stream]

I am pretty sure that is just cheap foam

[merry stirrup]

a 64$ 1300g2

[edgy laurel]

even worse

[wise bear]

its like plasti dip pleather

[edgy laurel]

if you've seen some low quality aftermarket interior trim pieces, it looks like that

plastic with a fake leather texture

[topaz veldt]

yup

I don't get it

but whatever - it also surely just hooks into hwinfo64 pro w/ remote polling

Another question is do you need to be a vendor/etc. to post on LTT a link to your stuff?

[edgy laurel]

I guess since they didn't post a link to anything since you can't buy it

[topaz veldt]

Interesting

[edgy laurel]

"looking for feedback"

[topaz veldt]

skirting a very fine line I suppose

[edgy laurel]

indeed

[topaz veldt]

man i paid so much money to be a vendor on car forums lol

[edgy laurel]

still advertising, if you ask me

[topaz veldt]

yeah its advertising no doubt

[cerulean cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/liverygone/saved/M329t6

[frank cypress]

https://videocardz.com/newz/oktoberfest-special-palit-is-brewing-more-than-just-frames

[cerulean cosmos]

also replacable with this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wmWmP6/rosewill-vmg-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-vmg1000

[frank cypress]

beer gpu? based based based based

[steel stream]

Hello? Based department?

Beer Processing Unit

[topaz veldt]

hello

Good dayeth upon you all

[cerulean cosmos]

computer analyze *** beer***

[topaz veldt]

@steel stream what does it look like when I am typing

[topaz veldt]

ROFL

That is so fun

its the simple things honestly

[edgy laurel]

better if your name was typing is typing

[topaz veldt]

What about now though?

[topaz veldt]

ROFL

[edgy laurel]

navy stop it with the flashbangs

[topaz veldt]

what lunatic runs light theme

[cerulean cosmos]

no

[pure garnet]

hdr blinding white

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/barney-dinosaur-laughing-laugh-creepy-gif-9078497

It's 9am of course I am in light mode

[edgy laurel]

he does, always has, and we're always giving him shit for it 🤣

one of those "follow system" people

[shell void]

the chad light mode enjoyer

[hoary hatch]

Automatic is best

[shell void]

the loser dork mode user