tech-chat-1

[ionic peak]

Color lol

[empty quartz]

@azure topaz how much should i put for a deposit on the m1 max mbp

[boreal vine]

it would match

[azure topaz]

country?

[boreal vine]

it's pounds, so UK

[azure topaz]

like buying one or selling one

[empty heron]

You know anyone else using gbp? 😭🥀

[boreal vine]

no one else uses pounds

[gloomy sleet]

that’s a funny looking hhkb

[azure topaz]

true thanks

[empty quartz]

Buying

[azure topaz]

im not sure how much the max'es are worth

[empty quartz]

Its gonna cost me $1854.72 cad after tax

[azure topaz]

i get it mixed up between euros, and besides, some people translate their currency to USD or whatever they feel the chat is most relevant in

[empty heron]

G no worries

[boreal vine]

HHKB

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/227055579406? @empty heron

[gloomy sleet]

it’s hhkb layout with ctrl key tf

[hidden anvil]

okay maybe not!

[empty heron]

In usd its like 160?

[azure topaz]

cheaper than both and certainly a better option than garbage chinese aliexpress board

[empty heron]

Thats a b650 chipset

[empty quartz]

@empty heron did you know that the company who made the app you’re named after took away licenses for a game that was paid

[azure topaz]

what do you need from b650e tell me a real reason

theres no functional difference to a normal user

[boreal vine]

@empty heron https://amzn.to/4oh2kl3

[hidden anvil]

tho this does seem heavily overclocked cuz tgp is 300 watts

[empty heron]

No shit, they suck nowadays

[boreal vine]

go get this one, it's new and has warranty from amazon

[empty heron]

Check the date

[empty quartz]

Still pissed about the crew

[candid cairn]

Does it worth to add another 40-50$ for a b850 instead of the b650?

[boreal vine]

no ont really, functionaly theyr'e the same

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/297589917194?

[candid cairn]

K thanks

[azure topaz]

if you want b650e specifically for some reason:

[boreal vine]

it'll run, it'll do everything a gaming PC does

[empty heron]

Basically i plan to throw my rtx 3070 into it and then upgrade in the future so pcie5.0 seems valuable to me since i upgrade gpu 2x as often as anything else

[azure topaz]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/306573388452?

[vagrant bloom]

5,7k hours in 7 years, didn't use the pc too much, good !

[azure topaz]

pcie 5 is on b650, no?

but also even a 5090 doesnt really benefit from pcie5

[boreal vine]

pcie 4.0

[dusk patio]

Not worth it. You could look at a higher end b650 if you want certain features though

[empty heron]

One i would get is covered by a very good 12month warranty

[azure topaz]

hm okie but it doesnt matter regardless

[gloomy sleet]

nothing does really

[azure topaz]

& i just sent a b850 board

[candid cairn]

I dont really need anything from a mb other than am5 and fast ddr5

[empty heron]

Nope regular b650 and b850 suppoets up to 4.0 and b650e supports 5.0

[azure topaz]

so buy one of 2 boards i sent for your useless feature

[dusk patio]

I was thinking like faster networking, maybe USB-C ports, etc

[azure topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1NPFFRTzLo

[boreal vine]

ironically, i think this is the perfect time to buy itx pcs

[azure topaz]

it is at most 3%

[boreal vine]

they're priced almost the same as normal mobos

[candid cairn]

I dont really care about this stuff, i got an old asus mb and its perfect, i just wanna upgrade cpu and ram

[empty heron]

But at this point i literally can get the one i wanted with warran

[azure topaz]

then do that, dont get a shitty chinese board

ive already said pcie5 is usless and you can get a board for 35 pound cheaper and still end up with better than the aliexpress board

[empty heron]

See that was my question, i asked about reliability from someone running it

[azure topaz]

everyone ive seen with those boards didnt hate it but they regretted not getting something normal

[empty heron]

I was wondering about all and all quality

[azure topaz]

youre trading off years of support for saving 10-20$

[empty heron]

I mean years of support is a broad statement

Imma add one more option

[steel umbra]

matx betterer overalllll

[azure topaz]

bios updates

[empty heron]

Instead should i just upgrade to best am4 has to offer

[azure topaz]

or just buy a real board

[boreal vine]

true. or be a real gigachad and get an ATX setup

[azure topaz]

am4 upgrade is useless and putting more money into a dead platform

[boreal vine]

I still can't belive my cr360 died

best performing aio i've ever had man

[azure topaz]

similar money for similar pefformance gains+a real upgrade path on am5

[boreal vine]

shit was so peak

[azure topaz]

crazy. never had an aio die on me yet

[boreal vine]

Same, until that recently

[empty heron]

Not at all similar money

Cpu upgrade vs platform update

[azure topaz]

their b650 i night devil is already 3 months behind on bios updates and they literally just put in support for DDR5 above 1.43 volt

[azure topaz]

300ish for a 5700x3d, 350ish for am5 combo

[empty heron]

• mobo + ram + cooler adapter

[azure topaz]

yes i am considering that bro

[boreal vine]

fucking frozen notte pump is so loud too

[empty heron]

Bs lwk 7900x3d is like 300£

[boreal vine]

it's my temporary aio

[azure topaz]

90 pound for board, 130 pound for a 7500F, 60-80 for a kit of ram, your cooler should already work cause am5 is compatible with am4

[azure topaz]

why are you considering one of the top end skus but also one of the worst skus from last gen

a 7500F performs like a 5700X3D in most games, aside from like, maybe a crazy factorio save

[empty heron]

Cuz if id do a full overhaul then im doing full overhaul 🥀 cpu swap is a different convo

[azure topaz]

???

youre still getting a significantly faster computer

[empty heron]

Basically what im talking about is that if im moving platforms i am going to get best i reasonably can

[azure topaz]

it is already a full overhaul

[azure topaz]

im literally saying to do this

you can spend the same money (that fits into reasonably) and get the same performance with a larger upgrade path

what about that is a downside

i dont get it

[boreal vine]

or get an lga1700 and be happy

[azure topaz]

yeah or buy lga 1700 for even cheaper lol

[boreal vine]

12900k rise up

[spring latch]

incorrect stats, something is messing with that, i guarentee its been on in total for more than 260 days or so

[azure topaz]

am4 is dead and there is no reason to stay on it even if considering the 5700x3d, its just overpriced for what you can get by swapping boards

if you can find a snipe of a 5700x3d for like 140-160$ sure but its not that price and it wont be for a long time

[empty heron]

Lwk might as well go intel since when i got am4 i was like YAY upgrades an then the only update i did in 6y was gpu swap

[boreal vine]

lga 1700 is also dead I can't lie

[azure topaz]

yeah but its cheep

[empty heron]

Im talking intel in general

[boreal vine]

i upgraded to it from lga1200 because A i needed cores and B e cores babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[limpid ivy]

👀

[sleek ibex]

[boreal vine]

i desprately need a new cooler tho

this fucking frozen notte makes me dead inside

[limpid ivy]

lol me looking at my 12c 24t but it’s chilling for now.

[azure topaz]

dont try to gap me

[sleek ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-dead-technology-meme-gif-11411140582628766775

[dusky axle]

Intel Arc B580 is still a decent and reliable GPU yes?

[limpid ivy]

Which one you looking at?

[azure topaz]

5.9ghz daily

[boreal vine]

thermalright grand vision

[boreal vine]

this 12900k isn't good for OC i swear

[azure topaz]

no 12th gen is

[limpid ivy]

Lol my ass is willing to drop money on noctua like I’ve already spent way too much on their fans

[azure topaz]

fun fact

[boreal vine]

no i mean this oen specifically

[empty heron]

Aparently arctic freezer 3 is amazing

[azure topaz]

12th and 13th are no different aside from the fact that yields were so much better for rpl that intel was allowed to enable more cores and have a better memory controller

[azure topaz]

they are the same schematics

[boreal vine]

not for intel

[sleek ibex]

I have the one with the brown fans, though it's in a solid side panel so not like it's visible

[boreal vine]

one of the worst aio for intel

[azure topaz]

this means that there is technically nothing stopping a 12900K from also hitting 5.9 allcore

[empty heron]

Pressure issues?

[azure topaz]

anything that replaces the ILM as stock is bad

[boreal vine]

I think i tried 5.3 all core but it shat itself, do think it's related to this motherboard too

[azure topaz]

probably not motherboard

[boreal vine]

yep, the retention wasn't even that good

[azure topaz]

i assure you, vrms are not as important as you think

i was doing 5.9 all core on an itx board, ycruncher for 12 hours was 370w

[boreal vine]

I haven't fucked with overclocking thing as much as I did with my 11600k

[azure topaz]

this is a 12 phase tiny board

[boreal vine]

I've been consumed by keyboards

[wet ember]

Amazon whyyyyyyy

[eternal haven]

Lmao found these at a thrift store. Certified bomb units 😆

[wet ember]

My other parts will be here on Friday. Except for the RAM

[azure topaz]

lol

[sleek ibex]

My LGA 1851 rig has been fine with the stock ILM, though the 1700 ILM is agreeably bad

[azure topaz]

i use stock ilm on 1851 an i get 9133 mem stable so im going to say its good

[boreal vine]

those cheap thermalright ones are surprisingly good

5$ fix

[wet ember]

At this point, should I cancel my order for this POS that's taking so long to deliver and order a more expensive g.skill set?

[sleek ibex]

Ah the yes the Athlon and P4 certified PSUs

[azure topaz]

this will attain you 0% performance

[wet ember]

If I order the g.skill one, it will arrive Friday free delivery

[ripe spire]

being a nerd and knowing of quirky apps that the average joe doesnt even know about is so useful, like joytokey letting me use some of the back buttons (which ive bound to keyboard keys) as media keys, so i can skip songs mid game without having to reach for my keyboard, its brilliant

[azure topaz]

get a similarly cheap kit with a similar XMP rating that gets delivered soon (600mhz, no more)

[wet ember]

But it was cheap

Fricking AI bubble

[sleek ibex]

Truly is .com bubble 2.0

[wet ember]

iPhone, Tim Cook, I've lost track of my clipboard

This arrives Friday

[sleek ibex]

The 285K has been smooth sailing especially with that dual air tower

[snow inlet]

here we go: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9j6C8

[boreal vine]

anyone got a good alternative to thermalright grand vision?

[drifting urchin]

i found the original price i paid for my 96gb ram, 6 months ago i paid 242 CAD, today, is listed for 918$

those flare x5 ones just above or pretty close

over 500$ increase :S

[limpid ivy]

Noice they replaced one of my IPPC fans too recently.

[dusky axle]

is the Intel Arc B580 still a reliable and decently priced gpu to upgrade from a 1070?

[drifting urchin]

i'm tempted just sell this kit and get 4x8 sticks or 2 x 8,

[grizzled frost]

Mhm

[limpid ivy]

Bad motor but they didn’t hesitate to just send me a new one at no cost .

[wet ember]

96 GB? What for? Also yeah RAM and storage price is insane these days

[azure topaz]

bro, 9133 just fucking worked, peak platform

[fringe prairie]

why not just get a good 2tb gen4 drive for $119

also why 9950x3d?

[grizzled frost]

Mostly RAM, but storage to some degree yeah

[azure topaz]

i have 7k dimms, no ckd

[drifting urchin]

oh i just figured, oh well i need ddr5 ram

that one seems like good price for value, buy

[grizzled frost]

as someone with 96gb of ram, don’t buy 96gb of ram

I have never used more than 64gb even when trying

[drifting urchin]

if it was 242 cad again i would without a second thought

[south arrow]

Hugepages=46000

[wet ember]

Yeah but you're still spending a ridiculous amount on RAM

[grizzled frost]

woah woah woah, where did you get 96gb of ddr5 for 242cad

[wet ember]

I don't need more than 32

[drifting urchin]

newegg

[grizzled frost]

what speed, and 4 sticks or 2

[silk halo]

is 11 fans too much

[grizzled frost]

yesn’t

oh ddr5 5200

[drifting urchin]

not fake news 96gb for 242

[silk halo]

i have the hvan 420 and i want all 11 fans

[wet ember]

I can't believe I fricking bought my GPU in mid October and I STILL haven't used it because:
a: my original build was defective
b: my new parts are slow to arrive

[drifting urchin]

i typically buy slower speed ram anyways

[grizzled frost]

why

[wet ember]

What's the benefit of slower speeds?

[grizzled frost]

there is none

[indigo bough]

how much will my 7600x bottleneck a 4090?

[random gyro]

I have 32GB ram too

[grizzled frost]

an impossible question to answer

because that isn’t how “bottlenecks” work

[grizzled frost]

it will depend on game, resolution, and settings

[random gyro]

Me have a 7600x3d

[grizzled frost]

7600x3d is vastly better than the 7600x in gaming

[indigo bough]

i did some stuff to my ram timings (uclk = mclk) at 6200mt/s and did voltage curve stuff so i got a bit more performance out of my cpui

plus i have pbo on

[grizzled frost]

ok?

[indigo bough]

just sayin lol

[grizzled frost]

is that 6200 in 1:1 or 2:1

[random gyro]

It is? I got a 9060XT to pair with it

[grizzled frost]

By a wide margin, and gpu doesn’t mean anything in the comparison

[indigo bough]

1:1 i think, did it a whiler ago and just follow advice off here

[random gyro]

Ik but is it a good pair or just decent

[grizzled frost]

decent

[random gyro]

Dang

[grizzled frost]

that’s not a bad thing mate

[snow inlet]

sure a gen 4 could work, I just needed more cores with different vm enviormwnts running

[random gyro]

But it not super great

[winged sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cia-typing-cia-is-typing-discord-cia-is-typing-discord-cia-gif-6301005666316744960

[sleek ibex]

[gleaming rose]

https://amoe.playatmcd.com/
btw if any americans want to do the mcdonalds monopoly without paying for shit quality food

[dusky axle]

so i'm not quite sure WHICH Arc 580 i should get. Should I get intel or asrock or something else?

i see the ones on newegg but i heard the horror stories about newegg...

[lunar path]

is there someone here that understands linux

[gleaming rose]

yep

[lunar path]

alright thx

[gleaming rose]

for what you ain't even say anything yet

[south arrow]

Maybes

But also thanks ech0

[ebon marlin]

Can you fix my game mcdonalds employee

[gleaming rose]

fuck you

[ebon marlin]

So mean and cruel for what 💔

What have I ever done to you 💔

[winged sky]

[indigo bough]

should i get a 7950x or stick to my 7600x? ive done a fair bit of tuning to the 7600x so idk if ill actually get better performance out of the 7950x

other than multicore processes ofc

[clear torrent]

Hi all I’m going to be buying one of these, a m.2 to mini SAS… are they simply just plug and play? If I put it into my m.2 slot

[true stirrup]

You will never be able to get the 7600x to the performance of a 7950x
So yes you will get better performance out of it
The question is just if you need it

[grizzled frost]

might need to install the right drivers, but usually they're plug and play

[indigo bough]

i corrently dont do much rendering but im planning on getting more into CAD and stuff, and possibly content too.

and fyi im asking since im moving to a 4090 from a 4060

[iron glen]

Wsp MD

[true stirrup]

Yeah the things you mentioned above are mostly GPU dependant

[craggy cove]

wtf, right when i want to build a pc everything goes up in price. even 5600s for no reason?

[iron glen]

Heyo

[indigo bough]

oh fr? where will i notice the most difference?

[craggy cove]

hello brownie

where would i get a cheap 5000 series cpu

[iron glen]

Mustamäe

[craggy cove]

aliexpress had them for 90 (before coupons) but now theyre 105 :(((

[true stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hi-there-cat-wave-cat-cat-hi-gif-18340632167687937789

[iron glen]

Idk you tried hinnavaatlus?

[craggy cove]

what exactly do they have in mustamäe

[iron glen]

Jaanus Meidla

[true stirrup]

Stuff will just render way faster

[craggy cove]

96€ for the tray version...

[iron glen]

Hot diggity

[iron glen]

1a?
Photopoint idk

[craggy cove]

82€ lowest in october...

ai again or what

[indigo bough]

oh so im games it means itll load stuff in the distance faster? so maybe not a huge impacton fps but latency or sum might be better? (im fully just wafflinf pls correct me where im wrong)

[true stirrup]

You were mentioning productivity stuff
In gaming going from a 4060 to a 4090 will be an absolutely huge fps increase

[indigo bough]

yea im mainly just wondering what the overall difference would be, whether thats in games or workstation stuf

[versed pecan]

Small question on Capture Cards and HDMI Splitters
Both do resolutions, but what ones do FPS and what ones do HZ? Cause some say "1440p 120fps" while others say "1080p 120hz"
Hz is the refresh rate of the monitor, and fps is the frames per second of a game. I assume fps is for capture cards, and hz for splitters, but am I right?

Or do some do both, it's a bit confusing

[distant frigate]

wtf is this?

[clear canyon]

scam

[distant frigate]

$82 a month for that lmaooo. Might as well get a cheap 5G plan and get much better speeds

[empty quartz]

Doesnt matter

Theres only 1 correct answer

Fps is how you incorrectly refer to refresh rate

[versed pecan]

I figure it's incorrect, that's why I said hz was the refresh rate

[south arrow]

I can see your confusion one of those memorize type deals. Hz is the monitors fps basically both just means it refreshes that many frames per second. But if referring to a screen hz is proper if referring to a title fps is proper

As diffrent creators to developers use diffrent terms for the same thing

[clear torrent]

perfecto

[south arrow]

Monitors have their limit (hz), and some games/movies/file formats etc have coded limits (fps) for an easy refrence

[versed pecan]

Still a bit unsure - For games at least, isn't fps just how many times a second the game itself updates? Ranging from how many pixels you can move at x speed to how many - eh. This is an area I am not so knowledgable on. I think Ticks in minecraft, that's the real atoms of the game. FPS is something else there

[empty quartz]

No

Fps is how many frames your gpu renders every second

[south arrow]

Sorta alot happens within a frame depending. But not important. Easier to just remember the basics. Usually in case of games more is less fps, graphics wise as theres more to do. The rendering frame/s slows down

Ms/latency is another beast but do more research and see what things do and feel like in practice

[versed pecan]

I suppose. Just trying to find either a new capture card or new hdmi splitter heh

[south arrow]

What are you doing? Like with it, with what goal?

[versed pecan]

I'd like to stream some switch 2 games. Some titles support 1440p and 120fps, and my monitor can do 144hz. So something that can work with those specs

[versed pecan]

#peripherals message
Here's more details

[robust stone]

I have a weird one here. I just bought some more sandisk extreme pro flash drives because the 3 I bought last year are amazing and work great. I plugged in the new drive today to format with rufus and I kept getting format errors. I started looking closer at the drives in device manager and the new drives are showing up a SCSI Disk Device, while the old drives are USB Mass Storage. I'm so confused Sandisk.

[south arrow]

Just be sure the capture card supports up to to 120fps and should be good id imagine

Maybe see what other switch 2 people use gotta be a reddit post or two

[versed pecan]

The other caveat is they are expensive. I can get away with just a new splitter with my current setup, but those are harder to find I feel

[south arrow]

I feel it i also need to save for a quality setup

If you cheap out on video equipment in my experience itll be noticeable so definitely seek live reviews/videos/image proof before landing on something to see it in use

🍀 🐛

[versed pecan]

Eh it's hardly even that at this point - If the splitter can carry audio and video fine, I can jank it to justice, but the capture card I have now was already supposedly good, then the audio stunk =/

[left dove]

I've now only discovered that today was time rollback day and I've been going around my house thinking I'm fucking insane because all of the clocks were off

[south arrow]

Can always get something that works in the meantime ofc

[left dove]

why is DST still a goddamn thing

[versed pecan]

It's a pita I'd rather it not

[left dove]

All it's managed to do is make me look silly and throw my sleep off

[random gyro]

sup'

[south arrow]

Smth smth control power hours or shift time smth smth

I actually have little good answers for that one

Just to mess with ya idk lol

Reminds me to set my watch

And my ps2s

[daring crystal]

Sup guys

When did rauko come back?

He left if I recall?

[south arrow]

Rauko never left i think

He's a good noodle

[daring crystal]

I remember some og leaving

I thought it was rauko for sum reason

[south arrow]

Think its night time in uk land

[ebon marlin]

It's 11:26pm in UK rn

[daring crystal]

Oh it was aldonist

[south arrow]

Haven't seen ald in awhile :/

[random gyro]

its 6pm here in EST, the superior timezone

[south arrow]

@aldonist

[random gyro]

looks like you do not have the correct username. please enter the correct one and try again. error 404: username was not correct, failed to load.

[south arrow]

Yeah hes not here at the moment been a few months

Hopefully doing alright

[daring crystal]

@bobross

[south arrow]

Oh yeah Bob angered the gods or smth

[random gyro]

bob ross is an artist

[south arrow]

Also miss bob though

https://tenor.com/view/painting-bob-ross-gif-5675623

[random gyro]

bob ross girlfriend

[south arrow]

They myte have one never asked to be honest

[rose sorrel]

Got an iPhone 14 Pro Max

And want to get some good Earbuds

I was thinking air pods pro

[ebon marlin]

Ay caramba

[rose sorrel]

I am tired of buying $20-$40 headphones and last me like 6 months

[daring crystal]

If you are getting an iPhone the only earbuds you should be buying are airpods

[rose sorrel]

I am hard on headphone

[rose sorrel]

How about beats ?

[daring crystal]

Don't get as many features. And airpods overall are still top of the market products.

[rose sorrel]

I have had or since 14 pro max came out

I don’t plan on getting new one until this won’t get Updates

[rose sorrel]

What Verison is the best ?

[daring crystal]

In my opinion the pro 2

[rose sorrel]

I can get them for $150

[daring crystal]

People have had a lot of problems with the 3

[rose sorrel]

Right now I assume they may go on sale for bf

[daring crystal]

More than likely on Amazon. But 150 is a solid price.

[rose sorrel]

From target

[ebon marlin]

I don't recommend buying no name brand products

[rose sorrel]

I buy JLabs and brands like that

[ebon marlin]

Paid like 40 bucks for for my CMF Buds 2 Plus and they sound better than my Airpods Pro 2's and Oneplus Buds Pro 3's which have a better sound stage than Airpods Pro 2 aswell

Also battery lasts twice as long

[rose sorrel]

Do AirPods hold up to abuse?

[ebon marlin]

12 hours battery life with the buds I charge my earbuds once a month with this lol

[rose sorrel]

I am hard on them since I work in fast food

[ebon marlin]

From personal experience no

[rose sorrel]

Do pro 2 hold up well ?

[daring crystal]

They still get updates. With some of the best active noise cancellation

[daring crystal]

Have you used the translation feature?

[rose sorrel]

I mean durability wise ?

[ebon marlin]

I don't own Pro 3's and from what I've heard the translation feature is useless

[daring crystal]

It's on the 2

[ebon marlin]

It only supports a handful of languages

I live in Finland so none of the supported languages are useful for me at all

[daring crystal]

Apple ML is kinda ass.

[ebon marlin]

Apple is very much behind the competition currently

[rose sorrel]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/643659699?sid=db44fc7f-c5dc-46e8-803d-5db73f6d04bc

Was thinking these

[ebon marlin]

Beats 💔

Genuinely one of the worst earbuds you can get

[rose sorrel]

They any good ?

[daring crystal]

Startups have better AI then apple which is absolutely insane.

[ebon marlin]

I just said they are one of the worst earbuds you can get and you asking if they're good

[rose sorrel]

U think the pros 2 will be on sale for BF ?

[ebon marlin]

They're old so probably but the sale will most likely be very minor

[rose sorrel]

What if 3’s go on sale for the price of 2’s

Buy them or 2s still ?

[ebon marlin]

That won't happen

[random gyro]

why so many pros

[ebon marlin]

Cause they all became faulty really quick

[random gyro]

my pro 2's haven't had any issues yet whatsoever

[rose sorrel]

I am American so we are Black Friday coming up

[random gyro]

same here

[ebon marlin]

Too bad black friday is useless

It's just fake sales lmao

[random gyro]

it's not, there are great deals

[ebon marlin]

It's fake sales

[rose sorrel]

They start deals in like 1 week and half

[random gyro]

no its not, because items that do cost their original price, do get decreased

the only place that does fake sales is walmart, iirc

[ebon marlin]

I don't think you understand how fake sales work

[lofty raft]

You have to follow the prices since september, then you know that Black Friday is up to 90% fake

[ebon marlin]

I haven't seen a genuine black friday sale in years

Usually the stuff that do get discounted during black fridays are stuff that the retailer just wants to get rid of since no one wants it

[lofty raft]

I've had one shot at bf , that was 3 years ago

NZXT -50% for everything
Bought monitor

[rose sorrel]

Are regular AirPods any good ?

[ebon marlin]

Not something I'd want to use day to day

[rose sorrel]

If day to day pros ?

[ebon marlin]

Depends

My main complaint with airpods are is that they have really short battery life so if you're going to school or work then it's not gonna last long

But if you're just using it day to day doing little trips they're fine

[rose sorrel]

I work 4-7 hours a day depending on day

[lofty raft]

Technics EAH-AZ100E-K

[topaz shale]

airpods are still like 3hr battery life no?

and they charge quick

[ebon marlin]

3hrs is extremely short

[topaz shale]

you can only watch one lord of the rings movie in that time

[rose sorrel]

That’s okay

So I should get the pro 2 or 3 ?

Are Bose any good ?

[ebon marlin]

I had everything also turned off no noise canceling or transparency mode and battery life still short as shit even with countless of brand new airpods lmao

[topaz shale]

do any of the pros support lossless?

[ebon marlin]

They can't

Impossible for earbuds to support lossless

For lossless you need wired headphones

[rose sorrel]

Are Bose any good?

[lofty raft]

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/nothing/ear-truly-wireless

[ebon marlin]

They're alright but very overpriced for what they offer

[ebon marlin]

Nothing Ear 1's are old not possible to find em without going to the used market

If you do find Ear 1's in stock they're going to be extremely overpriced

[rose sorrel]

Does case matter

[ebon marlin]

what

[rose sorrel]

For pro 2s does does case matter ?

[formal sonnet]

If you're talking about audio products, good is subjective to your ears and specific use-case.

[rose sorrel]

Ear buds

[lofty raft]

Amazon says no 🙂

[formal sonnet]

"Pro 2s" what exactly? I can't find any Bose product called that.

[lofty raft]

@ebon marlin what about nothing ears a ?

[rose sorrel]

Think I am going to buy air pods pro 2 does it matter on my case of lighting or type c ?

@ebon marlin

[ebon marlin]

Since you have a 14 you should get the lightning so you don't need to carry 2 chargers

[formal sonnet]

Which ones exactly? I still do not see any with "Pro" in the name... Lots of Quiet Comfort though, as that's the official model name.
https://www.bose.com/c/earbuds

[lofty raft]

Or two cables 🙂

[rose sorrel]

Not them

[ebon marlin]

Personally I'd avoid Nothing and go with CMF instead

[rose sorrel]

I carry a 3 way anyway it has all 4 and fast charging

[formal sonnet]

Link to the product you're referencing please, or include the full product brand name and model in your message. We cannot read minds.

[rose sorrel]

I was ask if boses where any good it was a genuine question

[formal sonnet]

Audio products are as good as they sound to you and as good as they fit in your ears. Assuming they have the features you want / need, the only way to know for sure is to try them with your own ears. Bose in general have gotten really good over the years, going from "old people" products to more affordable ones that offer decent battery life and an improved soundstage.

[lofty raft]

Pro 2 ?
Yeah, really good for ~70 bucks

[ebon marlin]

I got the Plus model instead

[random gyro]

Pro 2 are fire

[ebon marlin]

Better sound and bigger battery life

[rose sorrel]

Are 3 s worth it or 2 just fine ?

[lofty raft]

Like Tesla long range 🙂

[ebon marlin]

CMF's naming is very weird since the Plus model is better than the Pro model lmao

[lofty raft]

What comes next? Ultra plus pro ?

[rose sorrel]

Do case for pros 2 don’t matter ?

[ebon marlin]

Nah although USB-C will retain it's value better

Since it's newer and USB-C

[rose sorrel]

I don’t plan to sell them

[ebon marlin]

The Plus model is also the same price as the base Buds 2 earbuds

CMF has a funny identity crisis

They don't know what to name their products and what prices to set them

[rose sorrel]

Did u guys see the new

Fifine AM8T ?

https://a.co/d/4qzMyJd

[ebon marlin]

Yuck

[lofty raft]

RGBism kicked in

[ebon marlin]

So much unnecessary rgb that will look ugly due to LED hotspots

[clear canyon]

get this instead: https://a.co/d/028zWwe

its just better

[rose sorrel]

https://a.co/d/a7FDzle

[ebon marlin]

Just get an used rode podmic and an used Scarlet Solo 3rd gen

[rose sorrel]

I have that one

[ebon marlin]

I got my Rode Podmic for like 40€ and an M-Track Solo dac for 35€

Studio/podcast quality setup for cheap

[lofty raft]

https://geizhals.de/r-de-nt-usb-mini-a2239937.html
Amazon.us bit pricey

[clear canyon]

i cant read this

[lofty raft]

Learn

[clear canyon]

dont wanna

[lofty raft]

Translate with browser

86,90€ incl 19% tax

[ebon marlin]

Or learn the language in roughly under an hour

[clear canyon]

I have no interest in learning German

[ebon marlin]

C2 level language knowledge

[ebon marlin]

Poop

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-poo-harambe-flinging-gif-6037208

[lofty raft]

Try finnish or hungarian

Good luck

[clear canyon]

I have no interest in learning any other language

[ebon marlin]

I'm finnish

Estonia is also an uralic language and I'm also Estonian

[lofty raft]

Nvm.
Is there any price compare site besides pcpartpicker in the US?

[lofty raft]

I know

[ebon marlin]

Gay

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-poo-harambe-flinging-gif-6037208

[lofty raft]

I'm not

[ebon marlin]

The closet is made out of glass mate

[lofty raft]

[clear canyon]

I need you to buy me a predator 420cc from harbor freight

https://tenor.com/view/smile-gif-24453658

[ebon marlin]

No hable ingles compadre

[lofty raft]

Nie rozumiem

[ebon marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-happpy-mexico-gif-4865203283988119515

[lofty raft]

[thorny saddle]

Is this good

[distant frigate]

https://x.com/chefsevenn/status/1985106935826309202?s=46

Chef 👩🏻‍🍳 (@chefsevenn)

What’s your first thought when you see this pizza?

X · Nov 2, 2025, 10:09 PM

Immediately eat it

[winged sky]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-yummers-gif-730693117818784194

[south arrow]

Atll do donkeyy

Atll do. Looks solid 👌

[bitter crater]

looks like enough for atleast 3 days for me

[south arrow]

I know dominoes when I see it

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-cheese-pull-cheesepull-pizza-gif-6101791125216436439

[idle spear]

I think my 3700x is a little tosty with a stealth cooler😭

Bios said it was 90 degrees💔

[latent gull]

dominos overrated

[calm idol]

if it says 90c in bios, the cooler is not mounted correctly. if its 90f, normal temps

[random gyro]

why it so tiny

[thorny saddle]

hm?

Pic is prob misleading - thats a Fractal North XL case

[sand epoch]

what are the best iems

i can go to about 200$ in terms of budget

[sand epoch]

why noctua

[quasi junco]

It is night

[thorny saddle]

Low noise

[real quiver]

i am obtaining a very high end gpu for my cutting edge compute node

[grizzled frost]

lemme guess, gt 1030?

[sinful cobalt]

truthear x crinacle zero blue 2 imo for around $100

[grizzled frost]

As someone with these exact IEMs, Yes.

[real quiver]

a gtx 960 🔥

[sinful cobalt]

Hello Someone with these exact IEMs

[rotund blade]

are these download speeds normal for my new pc?

[real quiver]

network issue

[rotund blade]

ah

[real quiver]

31 mbps is tragic

[grizzled frost]

depends on your network speed

[rotund blade]

crap, uh how would i go about finding that out

[clear canyon]

no one knows ur pc, so we dont know, its most likely ur network speed or drive speed

[grizzled frost]

what network speed do you pay for

[rotund blade]

true mb

around 250 i believe

[real quiver]

this might take a little bit

[clear canyon]

you took a screenshot as soon as you started it lmao

[real quiver]

it's funny

[clear canyon]

lol

[real quiver]

i wish nvidia gpus weren't stupid sometimes

i want to have both gpus available for passthrough but from my understanding it is not simple with nvidia cards

[clear canyon]

you must have a single gpu available for the system

[real quiver]

i know

[clear canyon]

so if you have 2 gpus, you can only pass a single gpu

thats why I use my Igpu for the slot

ez pz

[real quiver]

but nvidia cards can't be divided between containers right?

or am i just misunderstanding

[clear canyon]

oh that, yeah it can, i see what ur talking about now

nvidia locked that being easy bc yes

I think they made it easier with 30 series and up tho

[real quiver]

i would just give it my 3060ti

but then i would have no gpu

[clear canyon]

thats whats in my system, I use a 3060ti lol

[real quiver]

i built a new pc with the intentions of using a 4090 or 4080 but did not expect prices to stay so high

[clear canyon]

you cant pass ur only gpu in the system

[clear canyon]

lol

[real quiver]

no this is in a separate desktop

[clear canyon]

i see

[real quiver]

i wish i could let truenas have the compute power from this machine when it's idling

but that is not possible

[clear canyon]

my base os is truenas

[real quiver]

i have my desktop on windows 11 because anticheat reasons

my "nas" is truenas

[clear canyon]

im confused

[real quiver]

so i have two separate machines
one is the desktop with the 3060ti
one is the "nas"

[clear canyon]

its bc ur just jumping around lol

[clear canyon]

yeah

[real quiver]

the nas is so jank

[clear canyon]

why lol

[real quiver]

it's just my old desktop with as many hdds plugged in as possible

USED hdds

i just needed something to function as an nvr

i don't care about data loss and mostly just wanted to play with truenas

it's a r7 2700x so it's still a capable cpu

[clear canyon]

Heres my NAS specs
Asus tuf x570 plus wifi (wifi is turned off)
64gigs 3200mhz cl16
r7 5700G
rtx 3060ti
2x 2tb hdd
1x 1tb hdd
1x 4tb WD red Nas drive
250gig ssd boot drive
500gig gen 3 nvme ssd for l2Arc
16gig optane ssd for cache
1x single 2.5gig nic
1x duel 10gig nic
650 MAG A650GL psu 80+ gold
Startech molex powered pcie blower fan
Thermalright Assassin x120 refined SE cooler

[clear canyon]

its decent for a server yeah

[real quiver]

my nas consists of:
gigabyte b450
48gb ram (two random kits thrown together)
r7 2700x
r7 250
1x cheapest m.2 micro center had (boot drive)
2x wd blue 1tb
1x random ass seagate 1tb
1x random ass hitatchi 1tb
corsair 550w psu

i need a cache drive

two sata ports on my mobo just don't do anything

[random gyro]

why is wifi off

[real quiver]

they're labeled as "asata" and nobody will tell me why truenas ignores them

[clear canyon]

its a nas, they cant use wifi

[real quiver]

oh god

the case is the best part of mine

[random gyro]

define nas

[clear canyon]

my case sucks ass lmao

[random gyro]

so crowded

[clear canyon]

nas means "Network attached storage" its storage over the network, it can offer higher protection over the data stored on it and offers several other benefits too

[real quiver]

High end

[clear canyon]

thats not the issue, the issue is the lack of cable management

[clear canyon]

wtf

why is ur drive bay on top?

[real quiver]

Cases are expensive

[real quiver]

That's the second one

[clear canyon]

thats the corsair 4000D duel drive bay too

[real quiver]

So the black drive cage is the one out of my current desktop

I had to take it out to fit my rad

[clear canyon]

how, thats in the basement

[real quiver]

And instead of just bouncing two drives around I put it in so they could bounce around together

[real quiver]

360mm rad in the front

[clear canyon]

no, the duel drive bay is originally in the basement of the case

[real quiver]

Yeah and it's still there in the white case

That black drive cage is just sitting there

[clear canyon]

the rad wont mess with the drive bay

[real quiver]

It won't clear the drive bay

[clear canyon]

how?

[sand epoch]

these? they're not 100$ for me or did u refer to the one with mic

and is it good for gaming? ik iems are good for music

[sinful cobalt]

i said around

yes zb2 goodfor gaming

[sand epoch]

it's cheaper lol

[clear canyon]

why not just get good headphones or speakers

[real quiver]

This is the only picture I can find

[sinful cobalt]

unless you want the more oriented brother being the zero reds

[clear canyon]

ohh, its not the corsair 4000D

[real quiver]

But the drive bay is right where the bottom of the rad goes

[sand epoch]

i have a g773 from Logitech but everyone says iems are better

so im buying one

[real quiver]

Oh no it's a meshify c

[clear canyon]

ew, a gaming headset, they all suck ass

[sand epoch]

whats wrong with gaming headset

[real quiver]

The hyperx cloud series used to be decent

[clear canyon]

waste of money

[real quiver]

Idk about now

[sand epoch]

i don't want a wired headphone 24/7

[clear canyon]

quality is dog and its over priced 90% of the time

[sand epoch]

and other bluetooth headphones have crazy delay

i tried one Sennheiser

[real quiver]

I only use wired audio on pc

[sand epoch]

very bad delay

[sinful cobalt]

every gaming headset is a scam tbh

[sand epoch]

everyone have preference, i move around a lot so I need wireless

[clear canyon]

I use klipsch speakers

[sinful cobalt]

for IEMs its really between the zero red or the zero blue 2

[clear canyon]

you can get good wireless, but headsets is not the way

[real quiver]

Rich

[clear canyon]

nope

I save up and buy worthwhile things

[sand epoch]

they're either 500$ from the ones i saw on reddit or they're wired

[clear canyon]

you can get good headphones for 100 bucks

[sand epoch]

like?

[clear canyon]

or speakers

[real quiver]

I do the same but I still try to get good deals by buying broken stuff

60% of the time it works 80% of the time

[clear canyon]

I dont buy broken things

[rose sorrel]

I know I asked earlier

But option on AirPods Pro 2 ?

[sand epoch]

im 26k premier on cs , faceit level 9. a speaker is not gonna cut it for me lmao

[clear canyon]

i dont use any apple products so idk

[sand epoch]

im a heavy fps player , i don't need speaker

a speaker won't give u footsteps

[real quiver]

I mostly apply that to cars or things I just want components out of

[clear canyon]

thats fair, but I aint buying broken computer parts lol

[sand epoch]

ok I'll buy the blue 2

does it have noice cancellation?

[real quiver]

I almost bought a broken 9070xtx because I was pretty certain it was either an issue caused by bad power or an iffy solder connection

But I didn't want an amd card and it was still kind of expensive

[sand epoch]

9070xtx?

[clear canyon]

what?

oh

just realized he said 9070xtx

[real quiver]

*xt

[sand epoch]

there is no xtx

[real quiver]

My bad

[clear canyon]

my mind autocorrected it but errored when you said it lmao

[sinful cobalt]

no

[sand epoch]

is there any wireless iems?

good for budget

[sinful cobalt]

they are gonna suck for gaming

[sand epoch]

low delay

[real quiver]

I still need a nvidia card in my main desktop because nvenc

[sinful cobalt]

just get urself wired for home use and wireless for outside use

[sand epoch]

alright

[real quiver]

It's unfortunate

[sand epoch]

ill use my main headset whenever I go to play tournaments

[sand epoch]

i did a mistake too , i want to do content creation now but I have an amd card

editting will suck ass but I have a av1 thankfully cuz I have a 70 series

[clear canyon]

you can do that fine with an amd card

[real quiver]

I want to try a new amd card but it'd be a very expensive mistake if it didn't work out

[sand epoch]

why won't it work out

[clear canyon]

you can return it

[real quiver]

If it doesn't play well with the workloads I need to use it for

[sand epoch]

u can't return electronic stuff here , only replace

[sinful cobalt]

we bare bears

[clear canyon]

huh?

[sand epoch]

i think u can't return electronic stuff in a lot of places

only ask for replacement

[real quiver]

Problem is that I buy a lot of stuff used

[sand epoch]

return as in return the product for a refund

[real quiver]

Marketplace sellers disappear off the face of the earth after the deal is done

[clear canyon]

buying new and buying from ebay gets you a 30 day return window

[sand epoch]

oh I was talking about Amazon

[clear canyon]

amazon has a 30 day return policy

[sand epoch]

not for electronics here

[real quiver]

I wish nvidia wasn't being big poopy faces

[clear canyon]

what country

[sand epoch]

india

[clear canyon]

https://www.amazon.in/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202111910

[random gyro]

what case you have

[sand epoch]

"non returnable" and that's a 7800xt

[sand epoch]

it's possible but a big headache

often times i contacted customer care they send technicians

[random gyro]

amazon doesn't send anybody

[clear canyon]

send technicians?

thats not how that works

[sand epoch]

they send me email and tell to email them for technicians

brand email

[random gyro]

scam email?

there's no way man

[clear canyon]

tell them to send a refund

[sand epoch]

i do but they say that only seller can do that and they send me their email and contact info

[clear canyon]

what

[sand epoch]

i tried to refund my msi motherboard and the customer care sent me this info to contact msi for refund or replacement

[real quiver]

For my desktop or that monstrosity

[random gyro]

desktop

idk what else you mean lol

[real quiver]

fractal meshify c

[random gyro]

thats the name of the case?

[clear canyon]

I have this server too, its my compute server

[random gyro]

i have a similar case to that but its something totally diff'

[real quiver]

yeah it looks like this

[real quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-my-god-gif-9147289506571378987

[clear canyon]

thats the size difference between a 3090 and a 3060 XD

[real quiver]

i would buy a 3090 but those are still expensive too

and i kind of doomed myself to dual fan cards only with the meshify c

[analog widget]

does anyone know any good cables for a meta quest 3 that will also charge it

[clear canyon]

lol

[real quiver]

the r9 7900x and 3060ti combo is not fantastic

small bottleneck believe it or not

[analog widget]

all cpu and gpus will have a bottle neck no?

[real quiver]

yeah but a ryzen 9 with a 3060ti

[clear canyon]

no bottle neck

[pulsar root]

What do people do with an old pc after getting a new one?

[clear canyon]

I keep it and repurpose it

[real quiver]

build a monstrosity of a nas

[analog widget]

ryzen 9 what

[real quiver]

7900x

[clear canyon]

look up the chat, he said 7900x

[analog widget]

what if i dont wwant to

[pulsar root]

What is that

[pulsar root]

What are ways it can be repurposed

[clear canyon]

NAS is a storage server, NAS stands for "network attached storage"

[random gyro]

interesting

[real quiver]

bruh i literally can't access word because microsoft keeps bringing me back to an organization sign in page

mkv moment

[empty quartz]

Chat

I got an m3 macbook for free

[spiral prairie]

Hey anyone know why I have 2 options on usb boot (trying to do a wipe and fresh install windows 11 and convert my drives to gpt) one is usb: memorex usb flash drive and one is uefi: memorex usb flash drive pmap partition 1

[plain cypress]

5 finger discount? 🥷

American discount? 🔫

Fell off the back of a truck discount? 🚚

[empty quartz]

[plain cypress]

On deer god

[random gyro]

regular macbook?

[warm linden]

so my 7900xtx hotspot temp reached 117c

ive already repasted (PTM sheet)

[clear canyon]

is ur heatsink clean?

[warm linden]

yes

[spiral prairie]

I have these two options

[warm linden]

I accidentally turned off the fans for like a min and came back and it was that hot

[clear canyon]

well yeah

dont turn off the fans lol

[warm linden]

why does minecraft shaders have to be so demanding lol

[jaunty apex]

M3 :0

[azure topaz]

there is nothing in minecraft optimized particularly good

mods, more so mod packs are some of the worst pieces of garbage

[empty quartz]

Its coded on one of the worst platforms for games

[azure topaz]

the amount of errors my console throws on a properly installed mod pack should be illegal

thousands

[jaunty apex]

What modpacks are you getting lol

[azure topaz]

cursed walking is my example

[jaunty apex]

I mean there's definitely a lot of packs like that I won't deny. Been a while since I've played consistently

Lmao modpack creator crashout

[wet ember]

New Windows feature. Pressing the shut down button quits all apps then returns to lock screen!

But shift + shut down does work!

Great job Microsoft for preventing accidental shut downs!

[jaunty apex]

holds power button

[warm linden]

I turned off the fans for like 2 mins

Technically they were at 25% but still

[thorny saddle]

Yeesh, oven mode

[warm linden]

I’m literally playing Minecraft with shaders lmao

[jaunty apex]

me wondering why im stuttering in 1.7.10, realizing Im getting 75 fps in low power mode

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/869962073705185330.webp?size=48&name=KahlSmile

[sinful cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-explodes-gamers-nexus-power-supply-gif-23202345

[clear canyon]

Gmod

[thorn escarp]

is this concerning with a stock cooler?

while playing minecraft?

[clear canyon]

no

[thorn escarp]

what's a bad temp?

[clear canyon]

but you should upgrade it when you get the chance

[thorn escarp]

like where i need to change my cooler

[thorn escarp]

mmm i shoulddd

[clear canyon]

high 80s is when I get concerned

[thorn escarp]

ive been spending a lot on games instead

[random gyro]

95c

[thorn escarp]

gotcha

also i think i fucked up the paste a bit

so my cooler came with the paste applied

i installed the cooler, took it off and put it back again

[sinful cobalt]

high 80/ 90s

[thorn escarp]

does the same go for my gpu too?

[sinful cobalt]

yes

unless ur in a hella hot environment

[thorn escarp]

i kinda am

[sinful cobalt]

then id worry at the 90s

[thorn escarp]

during the summers i'd prolly up my fan curve lol

cus it gets as hot as 45 degrees here sometimes

[pulsar root]

is there a way to check what motherboard i have

[balmy tapir]

you can look at it

[clear canyon]

look at it, it will say the name

[balmy tapir]

cpuz also says model iirc

[thorn escarp]

what's the best way to make my cpu and gpu run at like

max load?

im assuming furmark is good enough for the gpu

[clear canyon]

why max load?

[thorn escarp]

i just wanna see how hot they get at max load

[ivory mountain]

nope but not good either

[real quiver]

how do i go to the regular microsoft login screen

[pale flint]

aha

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[sand epoch]

am I the only one who loves loud fans

feels like operating a plane lol

[pale flint]

server

[sand epoch]

yeah

[swift stream]

i feel weird going for razer 😔

[azure topaz]

when you feel like your performance is bad

past 95c is generally accepted as bad

anything before that is merely an exaggeration, at least for cpus

[sudden marten]

if i can get a r5 9600x for only $10 more than the 7600x, should i? or just go for the 7600x

[sand epoch]

im more of a Logitech guy

razer does good marketing tho

im surprised my pc gets 90 fps on battlefield at 1440p without any upscaling

extreme settings

[thorn escarp]

10 mins in, and the temps looks like this

haha 67 max temp

[past sonnet]

would a i7-2700k and a GTX 1050 ti be good in 2025 Could it run battlefield 6?

[azure topaz]

no

[ocean axle]

i was scrolled up, but i dont care
yes there is

[ocean axle]

assuming this is "java slow", MCJE has many many performance issues, Java is not one of them

[plain cypress]

Set it on fire

[cosmic stratus]

ohh oh my

[cosmic stratus]

hey if it works, it works

😭

[azure topaz]

sure man i just cant pick up 3/4 of the items that the mobs drop

which is a feature

[cosmic stratus]

anyways me spending 5hrs trying to make a mod pack becuase of compatibility issues and reading crash logs

[azure topaz]

i love leaving literally hundreds of items on the floor

my poor 2690 v4

[past sonnet]

I’m upgrading my i5-2400 to that

[azure topaz]

e3-1230 v2

i7 3770 w/out igpu

[cosmic stratus]

15fps at most

[azure topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEJEnQztvz8

its not terrible but it is not good

ur cpu is the issue

it dont even support avx2, which i think is required

[cosmic stratus]

Oh have I shown you my finished precision t5810

[azure topaz]

nah

[azure topaz]

the computer ever

crazy that you need to col the vrms

[cosmic stratus]

It still needs a heatsink 🫩

[ocean axle]

that, thats not an optimization issue

[azure topaz]

no, but it leads to terrible performance

[ocean axle]

yea, but you made a very absolute statement

[azure topaz]

my bad, of course theres good optimized mods but there is not many

the fact minecraft needs optmization mods in itself

blok game man

[cosmic stratus]

Community doing ourselves a favor

Big BIG favor

[ocean axle]

mojang is working on that, slowly

[cosmic stratus]

[azure topaz]

yeah like every other update theyve put out since like 1.8

[cosmic stratus]

If they fix the issue, who cares

[azure topaz]

i trust mojang but man i dont think top end computers should need optifine (fabric+lithium, etc) to run minecraft at an uncapped fps without insane stuttering

[ocean axle]

fabric is just a loader

are you thinking of sodium?

[azure topaz]

i fixed it for you

[cosmic stratus]

Like forge for example

[azure topaz]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/lithium

[ocean axle]

im aware of lithium

[azure topaz]

sooo

[solar moat]

sodum is eypc

[azure topaz]

i already fixed it

[cosmic stratus]

They dont and since mojang wont do it. The community did it themselves, boom problem solved

[azure topaz]

before/at the same time you said that it was a loader

[latent pasture]

rn im playing heavilly modded mc with shaders on a 13 watt vega igpu laptop

i cap at 30fps and 2x fg to 60

[cosmic stratus]

I played ATM 10 on a i7 6820HQ and i3 8130u even i5 6300u

[latent pasture]

if anything the problem isnt the cpu gpu its the fking ram hogg

[azure topaz]

😭

[cosmic stratus]

Even if java minecraft is un optimized it still manages to run fine on low end hardware with the community provided fixes sooo

[azure topaz]

my issue is not that minecraft has a low frame rate

my issue is generally rooted in the stuttering

[ocean axle]

J21 helps a lot with the memory

[azure topaz]

every like 30m on my server my fps drops to like 60 for 30 seconds

[midnight wind]

This is only for server side optimization so wouldn't affect fps as far as I am aware
Use sodium

[azure topaz]

sounds fine but thats insanely bad from 400+

[azure topaz]

😭 it was an arbitrary example

[ocean axle]

wtf? thats weird

[cosmic stratus]

Those kind of frame drops?

[past sonnet]

Is it worth it to just build a whole new budget one then

[cosmic stratus]

I thought u meant micro stutters

[latent pasture]

that doesnt sound normal

[azure topaz]

happens on like 2/3 of the mod packs i play

memory is not the issue, cpu isnt that slow neither is the client

[midnight wind]

Sorry it didn't seem like you realized

[azure topaz]

its not like the game is unplayable but the stutters and wacko framedrops in mod packs push me away from them

[azure topaz]

which is CRAZY cause its probably a client issue

[ocean axle]

TBF to modpacks, none of the devs get paid

[azure topaz]

that is true

[ocean axle]

i know i sure dont

well, curseforge gives me some money, but not fucking much

[cosmic stratus]

I play ATM 10 on my system it runs smoothly with freesync. My issue is frame drops when you're in a high entity count area, like why is minecraft only using one core or thread for this

[azure topaz]

it is a ton of work im sure doing 400+ mods and making them all compatible and making sure theres not duplicate/incompatible items in between

but leaving fuckin 400+ drops on da floor (zombie mod pack, lots of mobs) is not cool

[ocean axle]

yea, idk on that

[azure topaz]

not inherently an optimisation issue but it is a mod pack issue

[ocean axle]

do you actually want the answer to that?

[azure topaz]

its not like its only sometimes, just, some items no pick up

[cosmic stratus]

Yea why not

[clear canyon]

you need 32gigs of ram to run it without the risk of constantly crashing

[azure topaz]

i can repeat it on almost erry mob

[clear canyon]

16gigs crashes pretty often

[azure topaz]

yea

[cosmic stratus]

16gb* even 8gb works you just need to have good ram management

[clear canyon]

not for atm10 lmao

[azure topaz]

ram honestly isnt too bad on the client side of this modpack so i have no idea

[ocean axle]

because MC is single threaded, and splitting that up is hard
graphics is the easier thing to split up, but race conditions make it damn near impossible to try and multi-thread the server

[azure topaz]

8gb allocated, often below 6

[latent pasture]

specifically 21 or 21 or newer? cuz i have 25

[ocean axle]

J16 or newer, really

ie: MC 1.17+

[latent pasture]

oh

[ocean axle]

vs MC 1.16 on J8

[clear canyon]

when I hosted an ATM10 server, It used up 50gigs of ram server side and 26gigs client side for every player

[azure topaz]

yea i use jdk21, or cornetto (whatever its called, the amazon one)

[latent pasture]

tfg is 1.20.1

[cosmic stratus]

I play with 8gb on atm 10 on a i7 6820hq (with 16gb of ram) just fine, it barely peakes 5gb you must be doing something wrong lmao

[untold lance]

what factors should i consider if im buying a new router? My dad says we have around 25 to 30 devices connected to it but im not too sure abt that

[ocean axle]

bruh, 1.21.10

[clear canyon]

you should use access points instead

[latent pasture]

no no ending 0

[clear canyon]

and hardwire as many devices as you can

[ocean axle]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-1-21-10

[untold lance]

what does that mean sorry

[azure topaz]

you cannot forget minecraft is impossibly silly

minecraft 2.0 sex update when

[clear canyon]

an AP gives off wifi signals so that you can have multiple connection points on the same network

[cosmic stratus]

Oh server hosting? Yea absolutely you should have atleast 128gb before even thinking about touching that idea

[latent pasture]

no i mean the older version 1.20.1

friom like 2 yrs ago

[clear canyon]

you dont need 128gigs for atm10 with like 10 players lmao

[ocean axle]

yea, i know, 1.21.10 is where its at though

[clear canyon]

a single server that is

[latent pasture]

hmmm i think we might be referring to different things

[untold lance]

oh gotcha, do you have any recommendations that wouldnt be hella expensive?

[ocean axle]

oh, the modpack you are playing is 1.20.1

thats J21 by default, so, its got he better garbage collector

i just like MC 1.21.5+ because i do fun things with it,

[latent pasture]

its still maxing out my 16gb ram probably bc i also have shaders nd it has to use it for vram

[clear canyon]

well, you are going to need at least 1 AP and a way to power it, either using a wall outlet or a POE switch or POE injector, also, all access points must be hardwired so where ever you put them, you gotta connect it to your router via ethernet

[clear canyon]

we have simular setups, nice

[ocean axle]

thats my secondary computer

[cosmic stratus]

One thing that pisses me off about modded minecraft is swap memory

[ocean axle]

all access points must be hardwired
only one needs to be

[latent pasture]

not me making a whole sugarcane farm then find out it has no nutritional value

[cosmic stratus]

The fuck you mean "java still needs to have some swap mem even if there is enough non virtual memory"

[clear canyon]

wdym

[ocean axle]

APs can mesh to eachother

only one needs an ethernet connection, generally

[ocean axle]

also, Ubiquiti

[cosmic stratus]

oh Ubiquiti fairy!!!

[untold lance]

i dont think that my parents would allow me to run a cable through the house tbh

[ocean axle]

that, doesnt seem like a normal error

[clear canyon]

I mean you can, I would just hardwire

[clear canyon]

yes, awesome products

[ocean axle]

if eth to all of them is an option, yes

but, only one of mine has an ethernet connection, because thats all i can get

[clear canyon]

@untold lance what is your budget

[ocean axle]

if nobody caught it, thats Vulkan not OpenGL

[cosmic stratus]

Ive ran into this issue a few times even tho minecraft has access to 16gb. It only stops when I set swap memory size to like 15gb in windows, which sucks for me bc I kinda need that space

Any benefit over opengl

[ocean axle]

yesn't

[cosmic stratus]

Mm

[untold lance]

prolly around 100 or lower