tech-chat-1

[frigid blade]

And the low end motherboard doesnt help either

Was thinking about just upgrading

it starts to get iffy at 5400MT/s

[tired bear]

what cpu and what motherboard

[frigid blade]

13900kf, asrock z790-c

[sly bolt]

idk mu GTX 1660 super kinda mid

[frigid blade]

I have 2 kits of this RAM: F5-6800J3446F48GX2-RS5K

obviously 4 dimms arent gonna hit 6800 but failing at 5600 kinda sucks

[leaden gust]

what is the msrp or sapphire nitro+ 9070xt pre vat

[tired bear]

it is per spec

[leaden gust]

should i

[frigid blade]

I know it can go faster than that

[tired bear]

with 2 dimms yes

[frigid blade]

Nah with 4

[ivory mountain]

i need to re-pirate that game

[frigid blade]

I’ve seen videos, it’s not the same kit but the die is the same I believe

Definitely is possible to hit at least 5800, I’ve seen videos of 6000

[rigid fjord]

fuck no

[azure topaz]

PCB differences in the sticks, IMC differences

possible on a completely different sample of motherboard, ram, and cpu

[leaden gust]

why

[rigid fjord]

qlc nand, low endurance

[leaden gust]

alright thanks

[left dove]

It's hereeeeeee

[timber wigeon]

sorry but what is goingon

[left dove]

redo your activation, that's all we can really say

whatever activation you did, redo that

[sly bolt]

is there any way to activate win11 for free like there used to be with win10

ion wanna pay for windows

[timber wigeon]

well endermanch managed to generate one with AI

oh its volume licensed i better install theother office

[timber wigeon]

dont go black market wink wink

only 20 bucks wink wnk

[sly bolt]

dont go into my DMs telling me how to do that because I don’t know how to wink wink

[timber wigeon]

okay sorry

[sly bolt]

lol

no but how do I do that

[left dove]

not allowed to discuss it here

[rigid fjord]

sweet, what's the first print you got in your mind for doing?

[left dove]

I wanna redo my ender 3's hotend bits

[rigid fjord]

no, it's free from microsoft.com

[timber wigeon]

oh really

[humble patrol]

hi

[rigid fjord]

for the smart people, it is

[jaunty apex]

Something about going to see a mass of grave

[rigid fjord]

go back to ztt

[jaunty apex]

All you're getting

[timber wigeon]

well i dont like registry tweaks every 6 months

[leaden gust]

is getting a contact frame for am5 worth it (im probably going to try to spread the thermal paste

[sly bolt]

it is?

[rigid fjord]

not even needing to do that

[rigid fjord]

yes

[sly bolt]

who the hell is goofyahhuncleproductions lmfao

[humble patrol]

Does anyone know how to log in back to a discord account if you only know the account username (not the password, the associated email and password, or the associated phone number)? I have really important work files on that account and I need it back.

[timber wigeon]

look i cant be arsed to find ways around it, 20 pounds is fine for a good operating system with all the apps i could ever need

[left dove]

contact discord

[sly bolt]

no Thats impossible

[jaunty apex]

Contact support

And don't give them your ID

[humble patrol]

I did countless times and they just sent the same thing over and over and it doesnt work

[rigid fjord]

£20 to a third party site is a great way to give your card/bank details away when it comes to windows keys

[humble patrol]

aw man

[rigid fjord]

microsoft: "you have to pay to properly use our software"

also microsoft: "here's the documentation on how activation works with some free keys, and how to make your own activation server so you don't have to pay us for activating our software"

[humble patrol]

Does it help if I have a mutual server or friend with it?

[jaunty apex]

If support can't do it, we sure can't

[humble patrol]

They can but they jus t dont help at all

[wet scroll]

is 82 degrees under a stress test for a brand new 7500f normal or should i check my thermal paste application

[sly bolt]

is that what a kms thingy is

[timber wigeon]

luckily im a smart man who only pays on proper bank portals

[rigid fjord]

normal and fine

[rigid fjord]

nope you're not, you paid for what is free

[wet scroll]

ok, btw i got the 7500f by saving on the mb and getting an a620, tysm

[rigid fjord]

yes

[wet scroll]

also i got 6000mt/s ram cl30

[sly bolt]

please i beg of you send me the documentation on DMs I’ll read it and do it

[jaunty apex]

Microsoft: locks edge into windows as a dependency

Me: removes Edge

Microsoft: "Update failed, rolling back"

[sly bolt]

I need that stuff

[timber wigeon]

i cant be bothered with KMS shit okay?

[left dove]

lmao

[rigid fjord]

then enjoy getting screwed over

[left dove]

kms in 2025 lmaoo

[jaunty apex]

That not used anymore?

[wet scroll]

idle at 45, is that also normal?

[rigid fjord]

yup, idle temps only matter if it was doing 60c+ at idle, that would have shown poor amount of paste/poor mounting instead

[sly bolt]

aight im going to sleep, cya tmr

[wet scroll]

ty

[rigid fjord]

np

[lusty stratus]

I've used LastPass for a number of years now, but I'm looking to move away from it. Does anyone have any good suggestions for a free user?

[midnight wind]

Bitwarden

[rigid fjord]

bitwarden, you can also self host it via ras pi, and also use it for 2fa

[robust trail]

bitwarden is dope, been using it for years.

[lusty stratus]

Interesting 🤔

[jaunty apex]

Using KeepassXC is easier than hosting Bitwarden

But using bitwardens servers is gonna be easier and a bit safer if you don't properly store shit

[robust trail]

buying hosting on bitwarden for $10 a year is pretty easy lol

[jaunty apex]

So is copying a file but

[robust trail]

yeah

[rigid fjord]

yeah, it's the only one i know of which gives you all that as a package

[robust trail]

I don't feel like jacking with that

[jaunty apex]

Dealing with a single file

[robust trail]

hosting it

[stoic nova]

expectations

[rigid fjord]

he's a troll

[stoic nova]

ohhh I remember this rat

[jaunty apex]

Technically I deal with 3 files. Passwords, 2fa backup codes and my actual totp secrets.

[wet scroll]

im having this weird ass issue where sometimes while im in a game id suddenly have as if i pressed alt tab and see desk top, and id have to go alt tab to go back to the game, thats before i even changed my cpu and mb

[robust trail]

Same, anything that is banking/money related is stored locally and I copy pasta

[wet scroll]

ive had it for years

[rigid fjord]

tbf dude, the fact it can be ran from a ras pi is a handy to have full control over it

[robust trail]

but the network management to reach it outside the network

push button bacon is easier for me

less fuckery

[rigid fjord]

fair enough dude, and understandable

[wet scroll]

can someone tell me how to fix that plsplsplslpsspl

[robust trail]

I travel a lot. One burp could mean a failed trip

🙁

[rigid fjord]

true dude, true

[jaunty apex]

I use a VPN for that

[robust trail]

me too but it is unreliable

some hotels block VPN

[left dove]

that is megadumb

[stoic nova]

you can never be fully certain if the thing that broadcasting a domain to the world is secure

[jaunty apex]

Hotspot?

[robust trail]

all it takes is one $15k trip to europe and a VPN block to ruin the trip 😛

[azure topaz]

diff country prolly not unlimited/good/any data

[robust trail]

Right

[jaunty apex]

Suppose so

[azure topaz]

its something like 70$ a week for out of country data on our business verizon plan

[robust trail]

I travel all over the world, any farts burps or vomits are bad juju

What will happen is I self host it, everything will be fine until I go to Germany and VPN doesn't work for some reason

I look like a giant dumbass

so the $10 a year and yubikey 2fa is perfect

[left dove]

oh my god this printer self-cleans

bambu ilu

[jaunty apex]

I'd use yubikey for 2fa keys but I need to get a secondary one still. Not like I'm not using it already for my main password file anyway though.

[rigid fjord]

you can add that ability to an ender 3, but that does require using paerts from an ender 3 v3se/ke and some gcode edits

[jaunty apex]

Should at least set it up

[rigid fjord]

https://bitwarden.com/help/self-host-bitwarden/ about self-hosting it

[robust trail]

Yeah, I have 3 keys I carry. One in my luggage, one on my keychain and one in my backpack lol

[wet scroll]

now i get why 32gb is the standard for ddr5 💔

[robust trail]

just in case I lose something lol

[rigid fjord]

yubikeys use biometrics don't they?

[jaunty apex]

NGL I'd keep one at home and or in the car, having all 3 in transit is a bit 😬

[robust trail]

sorta kinda not really, just requires physical touch

[wet scroll]

yubikeys dont, a pin and you have to touch, no biometrics

[rigid fjord]

it's like how 16gb was the standard for ddr4 tbh

[robust trail]

My laptop has biometric login and it has a copy of my passwords so I'm usually good. It does not log into nvidia resources so thats where I run into an issue

because I ain't using a windows laptop

[wet scroll]

yeah, i had 16gb on ddr4 and it was totally fine, never hit 100%, ddr5 tho? im hitting 100% having chrome and marvel open AND WHY IS IT AT 100% WHEN MARVEL AND CHROME TAK 5GB WHERE THE 11GB AT

[azure topaz]

the rest of the computer bro

[wet scroll]

why is the rest taking 11gb tho 💔

[azure topaz]

because its a normal computer?

dawg i hit 80% of 16gb on a computer that does not play games

[robust trail]

it isn't using the storage as RAM

[wet scroll]

maybe its normal with ddr5

[azure topaz]

ram usage does not change across generations

[jaunty apex]

Man I hate this app

[azure topaz]

i have NOTHING open

[robust trail]

larger RAM footprint, less virtual memory

[wet scroll]

id disagree, ddr4 consumed much less

[azure topaz]

well, youre wrong, 👍

[wet scroll]

i had ddr4 THIS MORNING 😭

[robust trail]

pull a stick of RAM and go down to 16GB

[azure topaz]

thats great did you have the exact same cpu

[azure topaz]

and board

[wet scroll]

no

[azure topaz]

and set of drivers

[robust trail]

the system will start making a massive pagefile instead of caching everything in RAM

[azure topaz]

and windows install

[wet scroll]

oh yea i need to change the drivers

[wet scroll]

yes

[proven shoal]

how much gb of ddr4 compare to ddr5

[jaunty apex]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linux-is-better-why-linux-is-better-shitdos-windows-gif-19494703

[wet scroll]

both 16gb, ill buy another 16gb stick next paycheck

[proven shoal]

i am hitting 60% of 32gb with a few apps open

[azure topaz]

yeah ram usage is infact dynamic

[robust trail]

who likes LLMs and RAG?

[proven shoal]

as they say, unused ram is wasted ram

[azure topaz]

is a hard fault like a genuine error

oh ok thanks google

[proven shoal]

how am i ever gonna financially recover

honestly after a year of it, not too bad

[rigid fjord]

i'd have to run a fair few more things to actively see my ram usage go above what it's currently doing, and at idle i don't see more than 8gb ram usage

[proven shoal]

40tb reads and 23tb write

i have signal rgb taking 2.3gb of ram

[random junco]

mid

[proven shoal]

icl i should uninstall it now, since my fans stay at rgb

ibr idk why i sayd rgb instead of rainbow

getting a lian li screen so i can see my temps

like i need to in the first place

[random junco]

A shark can detect one part of blood in 100 million parts of water

[ocean axle]

weak

oh, i didnt grab the whole thing,

[proven shoal]

my other ssd doesnt have total host reads count ...

yea that doesnt seem right to me...

[rigid fjord]

after 3 or so years on this one drive

[ocean axle]

that took 3 years?

[rigid fjord]

just over a year on this one

[ocean axle]

this drive is on 24/7, so, that power on hours is basically time since new

[ocean axle]

that has more power on hours than 1yr

one year is 8760 hours

[proven shoal]

thats like 2 years

[ocean axle]

~2.2, yes

[royal stone]

kinda random but my controller has just randomly stopped working but the cable works fine and so does the controller so idk what kind of pc issue it could be, any ideas?

[ocean axle]

2yrs2mo2days15hrs

[proven shoal]

oh shit i need to enable xmp

[royal stone]

pc shows its connected too which is confusing af

[proven shoal]

actually its expo

[proven shoal]

should have await 7 more hours lol

[rigid fjord]

yes, it's used as a games drive tbf

[foggy marsh]

oh wow didn't think my drive had that much reads/writes but this is a lot...

[proven shoal]

jesus

[ocean axle]

what do you do that drive?

and i thought i tortured mine....

[midnight wind]

because stuttering is really bad, not so much low framerate in isolation

• 30 divides evenly into 60, so there isn't any jitter between frametimes
• vrr prevents stuttering by just changing the refresh rate of the monitor to the content, so everything gets presented correctly

and before i get yelled at, obviously a lower framerate looks bad too but usually not nearly as much as jitter

[foggy marsh]

it was in my server for a long time so i think that's where it got that much reads/writes

[ocean axle]

yea, probably, but still, what were you doing to it in your server?

linux isos?

[rigid fjord]

the only time my pc turns off is for updates tbh, there's been the odd occasion with driver time outs with the newer amd drivers causing a restart

[ocean axle]

ok, but that cant be "just over a year" when it has over 2yrs 2mo of power on time

[rigid fjord]

the guy is a troll

[midnight wind]

rats

[ocean axle]

or, put another way, lower |animation error|

[midnight wind]

i have not heard that term in that context before

[ocean axle]

go watch the GN video on it

[rigid fjord]

bought new 6 months ago has power on hours reporting of over a year

[midnight wind]

what is it called roughly

[ocean axle]

then it wasn't new

[jaunty apex]

Holy

[ocean axle]

or its counting the hours wrong

[jaunty apex]

Was it cache or smth?

[rigid fjord]

i believe it be counting the hours wrong tbh

[ocean axle]

TLDR of animation error
the difference in the amount of time the frame's simulation ticked forward and how long the (prior?) frame was displayed for

[foggy marsh]

it was used in a vm that i was running for a friend idk what it was used for specifically

[midnight wind]

i'm pretty sure the technical term would be "jitter"

i couldn't really find anyone else talking about "animation error" when i searched

[azure topaz]

bro was chia mining on yo shit

[midnight wind]

other than to talk about animators making mistakes

[ocean axle]

see GN, they have a good explanation of it

notable that "animation" doesnt mean model animation but is more in the animator term of "thing moving in a picture" so a panning shot of a "still" scene can still have animation error

https://gamersnexus.net/gpus-cpus-deep-dive/fps-benchmarks-are-flawed-introducing-animation-error-engineering-discussion

[jaunty apex]

Yeah that's pretty wild, my oldest drive doesn't have this many writes on it. And I throw data around a LOT

[midnight wind]

I mean I get what it is but that would literally just be called jitter

maybe this is game dev language

[ocean axle]

not exactly

its a cool metric, and can be a good thing to look at for an objective this feels bad

[foggy marsh]

nah i don't think so because from what i know that needed lot of hdd storage but even if that was it he paid for the ssd and after it was no longer needed i got to use it in my pc so free ssd

[midnight wind]

i still can't tell how it's different though. or is it the same thing?

[ocean axle]

jitter in electronics/computers is usually referring to clock signals afaik

[jaunty apex]

I mean.. That's 1tb with over.. Sorry 300tb of writes

For any normal user or even enthusiast, that's a LOT

[midnight wind]

but we are talking about clock signals here too

like as in timings of periodic functions in general

[ocean axle]

not in the way jitter gets used correctly

animation error is its own fun thing, that is taking intra-pipeline timings into account, where the source (simulation) can be smooth, and you still get something that feels like shit out the other end

you can have zero jitter, and still have (physically displayed) animation error

[jaunty apex]

That SSD literally did 17.4GB of transfers an hour for its entire life on average

[ocean axle]

if you hold a perfect 45fps and use mailbox vsync on a 60hz screen, you get no jitter but still have animation error

[random junco]

ouch

[midnight wind]

what I'm saying is that the animation error is the jitter, happening because of resampling something without any interpolation

but then maybe it should be intermodulation, not jitter. Not quite sure

[ocean axle]

actually, FIFO would probably work the same there

[midnight wind]

there's gotta be an actual technical term but I'm not surew hich is right

[south arrow]

[ocean axle]

the anim error would also be consistent in this situation too, at +5.55ms/-11.11ms, because each frame would be simulated 22.22ms apart, but displayed either 16.67ms or 33.33ms after the previous one

[south arrow]

33ms feels bad

[midnight wind]

because I'm looking at it from the perspective of ignoring the fact that there's a game or renderer. There's just an input video feed, and an output one
there's a video feed at x hz and the output displays at y hz, so if x != y, then there's an intermodulation effect

[ocean axle]

id argue thats still animation error, you just aren't running the simulation in real time

[south arrow]

Just keks idk the scenario exactly

[midnight wind]

I think we may be talking about the same thing but just arguing about the name

[ocean axle]

playback a 24fps video on a 30hz display, and you have anim error there, the "simulation" is just not real time

[ocean axle]

probably, yea

[south arrow]

I am AI

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-the-next-generation-data-data-shrugs-gif-21440586

||jokes kinda||

[glossy veldt]

anyone here has knowledge in rack severs

servers

[south arrow]

#networking or #1027757333117415424

[ocean axle]

absolutely nobody here has any knowledge of rack servers at all

not a single person

[south arrow]

[ocean axle]

no, networking probably isn't hte right channel

[glossy veldt]

awh

[midnight wind]

i dropped a server yesterday because i thought it was on rails

[glossy veldt]

i picked up this goober for 35 bucks today

[ocean axle]

was it on a shelf?

[south arrow]

Im just wiggling around I dont do server tings

[glossy veldt]

oh

i mean they're heavy

[ocean axle]

how many RAM slots does that have?

[midnight wind]

it was stacked on 6 computers, 3 wide and 2 tall, and i wanted one of the computers it was sitting on

[glossy veldt]

uhhhhh

[ocean axle]

what in the god damn fuck

[glossy veldt]

if I recall correctly 12 slots

[ocean axle]

the ram isn't evenly spaced, but i cant tell if its 9 or 8 per CPU

[south arrow]

Chunkyss

[glossy veldt]

let me find a better picture

i did follow the manual for spacing

[ocean axle]

if you know the server's model, that also works

[glossy veldt]

well its printed out front

ibm system x3550 m2

[ocean axle]

wtf IBM, thats a tri-channel CPU

how the hell are those DIMM slots wired...

[glossy veldt]

I've no clue what you on about

[ocean axle]

the CPUs are tri channel, but theres 8 dimm slots

8/3 isn't a whole number

two channels have 3 slots, one channel 2 slots, fucking why?

also, $35 was too much for that

-$35 maybe

[jaunty apex]

I need crystaldiskinfo but on linux. Im too dumb to understand how they write it normally

[ocean axle]

smartctl command

[ocean axle]

use -x

or -a

[jaunty apex]

Ah

[clear canyon]

@left dove its rebuilt now and i added some upgrades

[left dove]

noiceeee

[glossy veldt]

ehhh?

[jaunty apex]

I still dont understand this though Data Units Read: 150,887,039 [77.2 TB] Data Units Written: 130,601,720 [66.8 TB]
My brain cannot parse this info

"data units"

[clear canyon]

New throttle kit, new exhaust, new carburetor, rebuilt transmission, added a tachometer, new headlight and tail light

[ocean axle]

i was trying to figure out what generation of CPU it was, because old stuff like that becomes worthless, and then less than worthless

that generation (LGA 1366) is very old, slow, and power hungry

[jaunty apex]

66,800GB though?

[glossy veldt]

that's one way to look at it sure

[left dove]

I got a front fork bag that holds tools, a bike pump, and a tire kit

[clear canyon]

Hell yeah, i need to get me a portable pump

[left dove]

I got a free electric one with my bike

[clear canyon]

Yeah

[glossy veldt]

its not even 35 bucks

whatever the exchange rate for argentine peso is

[jaunty apex]

in comparison current OS drive is at 4GB/h and I just wrote another tb on it like last week

[glossy veldt]

it was 35000 ars and that's extremely low for anything computer related

[left dove]

she be lookin' all pretty now

[ocean axle]

aight, see, that difference matters

[glossy veldt]

yeah i shouldve mentioned that first hand

[ocean axle]

not being in the US changes the availability of things a lot

[glossy veldt]

an extreme lot in fact

[ocean axle]

i was assuming the US, where people are sometimes literally giving away the next generation of server (LGA 2011) after that one

[glossy veldt]

that'd be really neat

[left trellis]

usa builds are so goated

canada sucks

[drifting urchin]

TLDR stuff happened today with my pc,

[ocean axle]

with the following (LGA 2011-3) not terribly far behind

[glossy veldt]

here this server was being used up until 2018-2019 until the it guy died and so did all the codes

[drifting urchin]

most parts and wires were attached

[ocean axle]

oh, that shit is common here too

[glossy veldt]

i would try to recover the password

its running some weird VMware something

[drifting urchin]

probably tomorrow see it turns on

[ocean axle]

servers being in service for a long ass time is more due to software than hardware

[glossy veldt]

ixce? i think it was called

[ocean axle]

migrating to a new machine isn't a fun process

ESXi

[glossy veldt]

yeah that

what's it even for

[ocean axle]

virtualization

[glossy veldt]

is it worth it to recover whatever's on it

[ocean axle]

no

[glossy veldt]

good

cause I'll format the two 300 gb sas drives

it was missing a lot of caddies though

only one was left intact the rest are gone

i see they're cheap on ebay

[limpid ivy]

Taking in a couple of servers too in a few weeks lol.

[glossy veldt]

holy shit thats expensive as fuck

[glossy veldt]

send me some ram cro

16 gb is desktop territory

[drifting urchin]

praying pc dont explode all the parts upon boot

[limpid ivy]

Oh that is the fun part I have no clue what the condition of how stripped they are.

Will there be ram or no ram or no drives

[near jewel]

I told someone "boy it's only a matter of time before they hit vpns" and you can now thank Wisconsin for starting the trend early

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/wisconsin-wants-to-force-all-adult-sites-to-block-vpns-with-a-new-age-verification-bill-heres-everything-we-know

[left dove]

this is like 3 weeks old

itll also never happen lmao

[limpid ivy]

I know the dell poweredge ones I am getting are ddr3 so yea no those are being dumped asap but the hp prolant and supermicro one I am keeping.

[ivory mountain]

js use twitter if ur that down bad

[azure topaz]

proliant seems good panda

xeon silver. the cpus for that platform are dogshit cheap

[drifting urchin]

ya and this is like, the cat got into the food in the floor cupboard so im going to put the cat food up in the roof cupboard so now the cat cant get in, but he does anyways cuz hes not stupid and just does the game mechanics

[azure topaz]

just not boards or anything else

[drifting urchin]

with the vpn thing

[limpid ivy]

oh yea bonus they aren't power hungry fucks or loud lol.

But the supermicro is probably gonna have a xeon E-2100 in it

[ocean axle]

dont search for the specific server, you are looking for DDR3 RDIMM, any should work

[limpid ivy]

at least for the model number I got.

[white pawn]

Is this a good list to pair up with my RX 6800 and 32 GB RAM? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gNhnDj

[left dove]

not a full link

ope

[white pawn]

Check it out

[fringe prairie]

am4 brand new is something

[white pawn]

Yeah I have 32 gb ddr4 ram lying around

[fringe prairie]

i mean it works

i'd get 5600/x if cheaper

12400f and 12600kf are some more options

[white pawn]

Only thirty bucks cheaper

[white pawn]

Did someone say… Intel??

[fringe prairie]

nothing wrong with intel

[white pawn]

Expensive and frying themselves?

[fringe prairie]

1. that's not an issue on alder lake
2. that's been fixed for a while
3. the 12600kf is the same price as the 5700x, 12400f is cheaper than the 5600

[azure topaz]

do i want to go through the spiel or do i need to not

ok i trust you solo love you

[white pawn]

All I want is just a ton of USB ports and a good CPU for my RX 6800

[ocean axle]

get this and a bunch of USB cards,
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007075/amd-ryzen-threadripper-7970x,-asus-trx50-sage-pro-wifi-str5,-kingston-fury-renegade-pro-128gb-quad-channel-ddr5-5600-kit,-computer-build-bundle

[white pawn]

Threadrippers are bad for gaming

[ocean axle]

they can game just fine

[white pawn]

I think the motherboard I sent was of a pretty good price?

[ocean axle]

that'll game better than a 5700x will

[ocean axle]

if buying new, you should be getting a platform that requires DDR5
if sticking with DDR4, buy used

[white pawn]

Ahh alr

It’s just so annoying that I already have those ram sticks and I cba to sell em

[ocean axle]

just kinda how it be

luckily, DDR5 isn't heinously expensive

[rigid fjord]

the cpu killer returns again

[white pawn]

Do you think I could sell my vengeance ddr5 2x16 for like 110 usd

[white pawn]

You’re chronically online btw

[rigid fjord]

the pc is online more than me

[white pawn]

Stop the cap

[ocean axle]

its more than just rauko that is

[rigid fjord]

nope, my pc primarily doesn't turn off unless there's an update

so it online more than me

[white pawn]

But you’re chronically in this Discord server

[rigid fjord]

i'm in several discords

[white pawn]

Only proving my point

[wheat torrent]

windows still manages to somehow turn my server once in 2 months

disabled all updating settings and whatnot, through every method

[jaunty apex]

You are in this server more than I am rauko and Im a NEET

[white pawn]

I chat in this server like three times a year

[wheat torrent]

is this new??

[jaunty apex]

no

[wheat torrent]

why does it look so god damn dated

[jaunty apex]

old mockup of the old debian based steamos old steambox that debuted in like 2016

[wheat torrent]

oh so a prototype

[jaunty apex]

ye

if that..

[wheat torrent]

it looks like some kind of old audio device

[white pawn]

Are AM5 CPUs cheaper than AM4, price-to-performance wise?

[glossy veldt]

send me the ram cro

[wheat torrent]

12 year old

[glossy veldt]

registered dims are expensive

[ivory mountain]

js buy an x3d cpu, got my 7800x3d its the best pc purchase ive ever made, shits so good and its like 300 dollars now

[ocean axle]

shouldn't be, ddr3 ones should be hella cheap

[glossy veldt]

i been looking and found none

[rain dock]

Guys which one should I go for they both come with the full setup

[white pawn]

I’m looking for a maximum of 200 CAD ($140 USD)

[wheat torrent]

I dont think x3d are best price to performance

[jaunty apex]

First looks more promising far as reliability goes seconds got a better CPU but kinda worse GPU I think.

[ocean axle]

at least US pricing, can be found for under 50c/GB
https://www.ebay.com/itm/405304549055

[white pawn]

Remember I’m pairing it up with an RX 6800

[ocean axle]

with a ton of other options around 50c/GB, +/- depending on exact listing

[ivory mountain]

in gaming im pretty sure they are

[jaunty apex]

Id prob trust the first seller more, but going for specs, second looks to slightly edge out

[rain dock]

2nd also comes with the full setup including desk for $1000

[ivory mountain]

dont base ryzen 5 5600's go for like 80 usd now

[glossy veldt]

if im buying ram it'll have to be international

[white pawn]

Damn

[rain dock]

Plus 2 144hz monitors

[glossy veldt]

local pricings are exorbitant for ddr3

it would also be hilarious to max out the server

[jaunty apex]

144hz is def better than 75hz

[ivory mountain]

480 in the big 25

[jaunty apex]

bluray.

and flac.

[glossy veldt]

im still rocking a 768p monitor

[wheat torrent]

@white pawn here you go

[glossy veldt]

at least it's got dvi

[white pawn]

Is this list of a good price though? Seems like the CPU fan is a bit overpriced. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gNhnDj

[glossy veldt]

also

[wheat torrent]

AM5 | AM4
CPU score | Price

[glossy veldt]

@ocean axle what's the difference between SAS and SATA?

[white pawn]

Thanks

[limpid dune]

I just store whatever format I got it in, unless it's a format that jellyfin can't read, in which case I transcode it into CPU-encoded AV1

[jaunty apex]

4k, 1080p ideally, will do 720p if not available or for animated, 480 is for content that literally doesnt have a remastered version for better.

[ocean axle]

everything and nothing

[left dove]

this took me three seconds.

[wheat torrent]

:clueless: google ai

[white pawn]

I’m gonna game at 1440p so the CPU is probably less of a problem

[ocean axle]

for compat purposes
SAS-1 is 3gbps (SATA 2)
SAS-2 is 6gbps (SATA 3)
a SAS controller can (usually) run SATA drives, but not the other way around

[glossy veldt]

so these are sas 2 drives

[ocean axle]

SAS-1 stuff also usually has a 32bit LBA limit (2.2TiB), which likely does apply to your card

[jaunty apex]

3600 to 5700x is a pretty big bump

[ocean axle]

they are backwards compatible

[white pawn]

5600x* is my jump

[ocean axle]

so, SAS-1 controller can run a SAS-3 drive, and vice versa

[wheat torrent]

for gaming perhaps yeah, but not everything else, the x3d are significantly more expensive

[glossy veldt]

yeah i was gonna try to access the drives on my pc

but quickly found out sas was not letting me

[rigid fjord]

sas can do up to 12gbps tbh

[white pawn]

@jaunty apex I’m going from a 5600x

[glossy veldt]

that'd be newer sas standards

my rack server is from 2009

[ocean axle]

yes, SAS-3 is 12gbps, but meh

[limpid dune]

ah yeah, if you don't have much CPU power to transcode with, I definitely recommend storing a second copy which is encoded as 264 or 265 for playback. If you CPU encode things, you can often fit it into 1/4 the space of the original DVD. Play around with handbrake maybe.

[glossy veldt]

id imagine that's good for having many drives

and cheap

[rain dock]

So the 3050 definitely the go gang?

[glossy veldt]

plus they're hot swappable so sick

[wheat torrent]

ah yes, the ryzen 5 5600/x

[rigid fjord]

also sas controllers can do both sata and sas but sata controllers can only do sata

[jaunty apex]

Ah ok. I mean 2070 is also an OLDER gpu so.. idk. Other PCs also got a higher memory clock speed though, I have to wonder about the PSU

[wheat torrent]

low key such a good price to performance cpu

[glossy veldt]

why would you ever choose a 3050

[rigid fjord]

fuck no, not for $1k

[glossy veldt]

im gonna use this rack server to host games

[jaunty apex]

Oh I thought it was a 3060, those are blurry pixels
Yea 3050 kinda eghhhhhh

[glossy veldt]

like unturned and mc

[wheat torrent]

no

[glossy veldt]

do no the 3050

[limpid dune]

encoding on CPU will give much smaller files than encoding on GPU, especially because old AMD GPUs tend to make huge video files

[glossy veldt]

that's neat

[left dove]

..?

[wheat torrent]

1000 usd and youre locked with a 500w psu which will need upgraded if you want more powerful CPU/GPU

[left dove]

god fucking dammit this kid

[limpid dune]

Nvidia GPUs still make big files, although they're better than CPU

[glossy veldt]

go peyton go

[rigid fjord]

look at the whole build, a $400 worth of build being sold for $1k

[left dove]

I dont want toooooooo

[jaunty apex]

tempted to just say "just watch it in 480p itll be fiiiiine"

[glossy veldt]

that's fine then

send me some rdimms

[ocean axle]

Get a good CPU then, ez

[limpid dune]

handbrake definitely does support your RX 7600XT, it's just a driver problem. Also yeah, CPU takes time, but it can make the file sizes half as large

[glossy veldt]

yeah like a xeon

[left dove]

Just let me ban you for being obnoxious enough that another server had to come warn us about you.

[limpid dune]

I'm telling you: handbrake supports every GPU ever made, period. it's a driver problem

[glossy veldt]

im baffled the easiest way to get 12 cores a decade and a half ago

[ocean axle]

Xeon is a product line, a Pentium II Xeon is shit today

[glossy veldt]

was to put two cpus together

[jaunty apex]

Do you have proper mesa drivers installed

[glossy veldt]

its like hilarious and it only goes up to 12c 24t

[glossy veldt]

never ever mention mesa again please

[limpid dune]

handbrake supports every GPU ever made on every OS ever made

[left dove]

I hate you so fucking much

[jaunty apex]

https://tenor.com/view/black-mesa-half-life-meme-gif-2321200409538753540

[glossy veldt]

what do you mean sixth gen ram isn't cheap

[limpid dune]

I have an RX 6600 encoding Handbrake on Proxmox, what you have is a skill/driver issue

[glossy veldt]

peyton fire the laser beam

i dont want this guy gone i want him deleted

[ocean axle]

Just git gud then, sounds like a you problem that it's not working

[glossy veldt]

vi out

[limpid dune]

yeah actually, 6th gen iGPUs are goated, but do try to get a quadcore model because handbrake's filters are CPU bottlenecked

(6th gen iGPU is the UHD-630, which is the same for the 7/8/9/10 gen)

[left dove]

I create bigger shits than the thoughts you make

[limpid dune]

question: why are you using an A6-7400K when you have a ryzen 5500? the 5500 can probably CPU encode faster than the A8 can GPU encode 😭

either way

especially on x264 which is (iirc?) fairly CPU efficient

[drifting urchin]

so, if i have pump header on motherboard but no water cooling i just treat it as cpu fan header or normal?

[limpid dune]

ah, aight

[left dove]

do you see

do you see now

[limpid dune]

not the strangest NAS I've seen today, I just met someone using an old powermac G5 as their jellyfin server. yes, a PPC one

[jaunty apex]

Let me use more watts for less performance

[ocean axle]

Why not up your arsenal?

[rigid fjord]

depending on the mobo, yes, though some double a chassis/system fan header up for a pump header also

[limpid dune]

it's him, John Kubernetes

[drifting urchin]

the board in question is x870e mag msi tomahawk for what its worth

[ocean axle]

Idk, seems like you are just deadlocked on this decision

[left dove]

There is no reasoning with ratchet

[limpid dune]

also, the Intel DG1 GPU is like $40 right now and it has good encoders, it does have weird issues with display out on non-intel boards

[left dove]

there is only pain, and suffering

[limpid dune]

you do realize that all of those laptops (except the Haswell) will have UHD-630s

[ocean axle]

Yea, can't understand that size matters

[jaunty apex]

clank would be fucked

[limpid dune]

clank is out here trying to transcode on an Amiga 3000

[ocean axle]

id like to point out that im referencing old R&C games

[jaunty apex]

Time to smoke crack

[rigid fjord]

so you overpayed for an x870 is what you're saying instead of getting a b850, and yes you can treat the pump header for normal fan header instead, though cpu cooler's fans should always be on the cpu_fan header

[ocean axle]

given the name and PFP, id expect Ratchet to have picked up on that, if they were older than 8

[white pawn]

What is the best price-to-performance AM5 CPU under 150 USD right now? I’m in Canada and that would be 200 CAD. Thank you.

[drifting urchin]

that is correct

[rigid fjord]

7500f

[limpid dune]

probably a 7600X or 9600 something. 7500F also a good idea

[jaunty apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1193295067692146759.webp?size=48&name=morgantrue

[white pawn]

Thank you. What do you think about the 7700x? I highly considered it before

[ocean axle]

but i dont see a crack in time

[rigid fjord]

9600/9600x going for the price a 7700/7700x is going for

[ivory mountain]

w ball knowledge

[jaunty apex]

aside the PSP games thats the only one I finished

[limpid dune]

7700X is pretty much the same gaming perf as all the other zen 4/5 non-X3D processors, but those extra two cores are good for video editing. The only thing you should check is make sure you get one of the 32MB L3 CPUs, the 16MB L3 chips are gonna be worse in gaming

[jaunty apex]

Oh I guess I did finish Rift

[ocean axle]

ive played crack in time, the PS4 remake, and rift

[white pawn]

Thanks! Do you think it would be good for video editing in 1440p??

[ocean axle]

i watched my older brother play through i wanna say GC, UYA, and deadlocked

i dont think we got size matters or the actual original

[white pawn]

I’m gonna make some videos but also mostly play games in 1440p

[limpid dune]

generally speaking: although better CPUs will make videos render faster, there's no "limitation" there, because you can always just wait a little longer (unlike video games, where a bad framerate is just a bad framerate and can't be compensated for)

[jaunty apex]

Ive played 1, 2, nexus, all4one and remaster (I think? Thats like the movie right, been too long lol, ps5 got sold after I used it for like 2 weeks) but havent finished any of them. Beat SAClank, SM and CiT

[limpid dune]

instead of buying an expensive and large CPU, you can get a cheap CPU and a cat and simply play with the cat while waiting for the CPU to finish

[ocean axle]

cat more expensive than good CPU
source: me, i have two of them

[left dove]

can confirm, but cats are cuter

[limpid dune]

*EXCEPT when you're trying to live-transcode things on jellyfin, in that case your framerate might genuinely be limited by CPU. oh boy do I know

[rigid fjord]

parrot more expensive than a good cpu, source me, i has one

[ocean axle]

irrelevant point

[jaunty apex]

Pi 3: "No."

[limpid dune]

how many frames can this get

[ocean axle]

just throw a 64-core EPYC at it, ez

[ocean axle]

NaN

[thorny forge]

Hey

[left dove]

no

[thorny forge]

I'm new here

[left dove]

hello new here

[ocean axle]

o'rlly now?

[thorny forge]

Hey peyton

[limpid dune]

completely unrelated but: man I hate E-cores

[thorny forge]

So chat, I have an i5 9400f and a RTX 3050, 16 gb dual channel Ddr4 2666mhz and a 480Gb SATA SSD, what should I upgrade first?

[left dove]

storage, then cpu, then ram

[ocean axle]

go on

[limpid dune]

upgrade your mindset, young padawan: your PC is plenty enough for fun, now go out there and enjoy yourself ☺️

...that and maybe search for some faster RAM, or overclock it if you can. Disk space is handy for more games

[thorny forge]

I do have a 1Tb HDD, but it's quite slow, should I use it to store the games and install the OS on the 480Gb SSD?

[jaunty apex]

absolutely

[left trellis]

anyone know performance differences between a 14700k and 5950x on after effects

[limpid dune]

thank you. yesterday I disabled the E-cores on my i9-12900H laptop. idle power dropped from 5.4W to 4.7W at desktop, games are getting better frames, web browsers are more responsive, and some multithread workloads even happen faster

[ocean axle]

yes. RAM, then CPU or GPU depending on what res, and storage whenever if you feel like you need more (can just be adding another SSD for games, dont need to replace)
alternatively, can purposely not upgrade RAM separate from CPU, and do both together if you jump to DDR5

[thorny forge]

You can overclock ram?

[jaunty apex]

thats actually hilarious

[thorny forge]

I didn't know that

[thorny forge]

I have a 1366x768 60hz monitor

[ocean axle]

e-cores have some interesting core to core latency penalties, im very familiar with them degrading "MT" perf just by being enabled

[limpid dune]

Yep, generally speaking, GPU -> CPU -> RAM (in order of "easiest and most rewarding" to "hardest and least rewarding")

[ocean axle]

upgrade that first

[jaunty apex]

Anything that isnt stock (even if rated for higher) is technically an overclock.. according to Intel.

[thorny forge]

That's my secondary tho, my main monitor is 1920x1080 and 60hz

[limpid dune]

you could also try overclocking that monitor, some 60hz panels can reach up to 74hz in my experience

[thorny forge]

I confused them lol

[ocean axle]

i stand by my opinion, but also why would you start with the secondary?

[thorny forge]

I tried it, it works up to 76hz, but the main one which is 1920x1080 only goes up to 61hz

[ocean axle]

if you wanna go for high refresh 1080p, CPU before GPU,
if you wanna step up res then GPU before GPU

[limpid dune]

in this case, the workload in question was GCC, so I imagine the nightmarish latency was a big problem (GCC spends a lot of time resolving pointers)

[ocean axle]

oh, the core to core latency wouldn't effect that

[thorny forge]

Idk, it's their position, they are in the right and left, the "secondary" is the one I most use because of being on the right, the other bigger one is on the left which I use to play games and watch some videos, but I also use the other one because it's simply closer to me

[ocean axle]

the specific issue i was talking about was with a cache line lock being passed around

[thorny forge]

Idk I'm not made for dual monitors, I grew up in single monitors for life

[jaunty apex]

I almost wonder if disabling multithreading on my 5800x would matter

[limpid dune]

also: this CPU has been out for FOUR YEARS and Intel still hasn't made the thread director actually perform better than just not having those cores

[ocean axle]

get 3, which one is centered solved

[ocean axle]

also try disabling HT

theres also a good amount of windows just being dumb

[thorny forge]

I have another one which is also 1366x768, but it's stuck on 60hz, and it doesn't have HDMI or display port, only DVI and VGA

[limpid dune]

Ryzens tend to have very wide execution engines, so disabling hyperthreading doesn't really do much

[ocean axle]

my work machine is a 12700k, and i've had it decide to lock shit to just the e-cores because reasons

thx win11 and "background task" low power "optimization"

[limpid dune]

I'm gay 🐧

[ocean axle]

fuck off and give my script the full CPU

[thorny forge]

I'm gay penguin?

[ocean axle]

oh, i also use linux at home

[thorny forge]

Oh, linux

[limpid dune]

which makes it even weirder, because intel's linux scheduler is usually amazing.... but no.

if intel removed the E-cores from arrow lake, they coulda fit 12 P-cores on the same die 😭

and if they actually made an L2 cache that wasn't taking up a solid third of the die, they could probably have fit 16 P-cores on there. but no. we live in dark times

[ocean axle]

yea, most of my machines are AMD, and its probably going to stay that way for a while

i have two machines with e-cores

a 12600k that i use to remove into my work machine, and runs windows 10
a 12900h that has HT disabled and is my router (opnsense)

[limpid dune]

my laptop (i9-12900H + 3070Ti) consumes MORE POWER THAN MY DESKTOP (R9 7900X3D + 4080S @ 160W)

[jaunty apex]

I use arch btw

[ocean axle]

you do you boo

[limpid dune]

actually I'm only part-time-gay so I use Pop_OS, the linux distribution for employed people

[ocean axle]

yes im using a 12900h as a router, dont worry about it

[thorny forge]

Anyway here is my setup

[jaunty apex]

Started on mint, on Cachyos now, hoping it just stays stable lol. Considered Bazzite but compromises I don't really care to make

[ocean axle]

eww, desktop icons

[rose stream]

Hold up, that... Ain't enough desktop icons I feel.

[winged sky]

jesus christ mate

[rose stream]

But wait, there's MORE!

[winged sky]

[rose stream]

And even MOAR than can be abhorred! xD

[marsh zealot]

dam

honestly i found this nice 144hz 1080p monitor

for like 100$
USD

[glass crest]

Does anyone have issues with the recent windows update? 25H2 - I still haven’t updated so should I wait it out for awhile?

[fossil mauve]

meow

[marsh zealot]

honestly its bad

i have had many bluetooth issues and sound ones

the drivers and wifi is glitchy as well

[ivory mountain]

Holy scam 😭

[sinful cobalt]

all my machines are AMD CPUs lmoa

7600X and B580 combo wallahi

[clear canyon]

Same

[limpid dune]

?!??!??

[junior valve]

yes

[elder seal]

wonder how many people i can piss off with this :] (its a samsung dishwasher with AI playing What I've Done by Linkin Park lmao) https://www.instagram.com/p/DP1VX_WjMxZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NHB4d2wxZ2NpeTBl

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[elder seal]

Had to help my mom with tech support on her new work laptop, she thought plugging in the charger would turn on and she's like "how do I turn it on its not turning on" lol

[white pawn]

Is US$140 a good price for an AM5 ATX motherboard with 192 GB RAM capacity (4 slots), 8 USB ports and 2 M.2 slots??

Cuz I managed to find an AM4 like that for US$100

[sinful cobalt]

Most of the time AM5 CPUs IMC wont be able to handle quad sticks.

[white pawn]

What does that mean? What if I tried putting four in anyway??

[sinful cobalt]

If you put in 4 it can possibly just refuse to boot

[white pawn]

Thanks

[sinful cobalt]

it depends on certain factors

[white pawn]

I was planning on getting two 2x16 GB sticks anyway

[sinful cobalt]

assuming you’re doing 4x16 all that might happen is that u cant enable XMP/EXPO without it being unstable

[white pawn]

Four slots is just in case I’d want 32 more in the future

[sinful cobalt]

dont go AM4

[drifting urchin]

pcie power on the board? i dont get it? isn't thats whats on my gpu anyways or i have to (should) plug that in now too

[sinful cobalt]

theres no reason to go AM4 now

[drifting urchin]

or its just simply i plug the gpu in and then the pcie thing ont he board too

[sinful cobalt]

i doubt you need to plug the PCIE into mobo

[drifting urchin]

never even seen like that

[latent pasture]

what motherboard is this

[drifting urchin]

what kind of scenari would you even plug it for anway

msi mag x870e tomahawk

page 47

[latent pasture]

msi's press release on it just says its for extremely high power gpus

[white pawn]

Gaw dam

[drifting urchin]

gpt claims its for when you use 2 or more gpus

yes, ai bad

but i like to test what it knows and doesnt know, and sometimes its 50/50 it gets it right, typically just dismiss the information anyways

[white pawn]

@sinful cobalt

Good build without future-proofing ($412.44 USD):
Processor (R7 5700X) [AM4] — $142.45
CPU Cooler - $27.84
Motherboard [AM4] — $99.71
Power Supply — $85.47
Case — $56.98

Future-proof ($582.68 USD, or $482.96 USD if current 2x16 DDR4 RAM sticks are sold):
Processor (R5 7600X) [AM5] — $163.10
CPU Cooler - $27.84
Motherboard [AM5] — $149.46
Power Supply — $85.47
Case — $56.98
RAM sticks (2x16 GB DDR5) — $99.71

[sinful cobalt]

“futureproof” is such an ass term

just go AM5 bruh

[white pawn]

Futureproof just means AM5 here

[latent pasture]

that $27 cooler better be dual tower

cuz single towers are half that

[drifting urchin]

the cooler im going to use is thermal right assasin digtal 120

[ashen jay]

same

[drifting urchin]

dual one

[white pawn]

https://a.co/d/g5eFhJS

[drifting urchin]

this is the one i went for

[white pawn]

Oh so mine wasn’t dual tower

[drifting urchin]

dual heat pipes i think they call it

[white pawn]

I’m in Canada and Canada Computers might be good as well

Is the fan I sent inherently bad?

[drifting urchin]

no, but you need a cooler adquete to your cpu

bigger cpu, bigger cooler (loosely)

[rain dock]

Pc 1
Specs:

• Ryzen 5 5500 (new)
• 16gb ram @3200mhz (new)
• Aorus Rtx 2060 Super 8gb
• 650w Power supply
• 120gb nvme ssd (option to install an additional 500gb, 1tb or 2tb hard drive for extra)
• Brand new MSI Mag Forge 130a rgb gaming case - great airflow

Pc 2
Price:
$1,000 PC & 2 x 24" 1080p 75Hz monitors
$900 PC only

Specs:

• Ryzen 5 3600 CPU
• EVGA RTX 2070 Super GPU
• 32GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM
• 1TB Samsung 860 EVO M.2 SSD
• ASUS Prime B450M-A motherboard
• Silverstone 500W modular PSU
• Phanteks P300 mid tower case

Stock settings, never overclocked.
Regularly cleaned, receipts available.

Which pc is better boys

[sinful cobalt]

thats just upgradability……

[white pawn]

Is it adequate for the R5 7600X?

[white pawn]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[rigid fjord]

pc 2 is better but both are not worth over 400

[sinful cobalt]

2nd pc better

[rain dock]

Okay thanks bro

[sinful cobalt]

any aftermarket cooler cools a 7600x adequately

[rain dock]

They both 1k but idk nothing bout pcs so im finna buy em lol

[sinful cobalt]

delete the crosspost in #tech-chat-2

dont crosspost

[white pawn]

What about this?

https://a.co/d/g5eFhJS

[sinful cobalt]

yes

[white pawn]

Nice. No need for a double tower??

[sinful cobalt]

as i said basically any aftermarket cooler cools a 7600X

[white pawn]

Perfect 👌

[brazen glen]

please dont' buy these

[rain dock]

Fr?

[brazen glen]

old ssds, old gpus, god knows how abused the power supplies are. Any money you'd spend on that would go twice as far on amazon or newegg

[brazen glen]

are you american

[rain dock]

No I’m from New Zealand

[brazen glen]

okay well 1000 NZ is 572 USD so those are bad deals but not spectacularly bad deals

[rain dock]

I just wanna play cod/wz and have 120+ fps consistently

[brazen glen]

wow holy crap prices there are awful

[wheat torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-dancing-funny-happy-meme-gif-26302808

[brazen glen]

definitely go for the second pc but i wouldn't be surprised if that SSD crapped out soon

best i could do was something approahing 1400 NZ with a 5600 and a B580

[rain dock]

Could I just get that and upgrade it overtime?

[brazen glen]

yeah the 3600 is the better base to start from imo

the 3600 is just as good as what's in a ps5

[latent pasture]

the 2nd pc is better in every way wats the price of the first one

[brazen glen]

1000 NZ with two monitors, 570ish USD

[latent pasture]

3600 and 5500 are about equal

2nd pc has better gpu double ram more ssd

[latent pasture]

is the $1000/900 u wrote for the 2nd pc also nzd

[brazen glen]

yes he is kiwi

[latent pasture]

for the same price the 2nd pc is just better in every way lol

[brazen glen]

only things that concnern me are the piddly PSU and old SSD

[rain dock]

Okay bro imma cop it

[brazen glen]

but yes much better

[rain dock]

Thank you guys

[brazen glen]

have fun bud

[stark kiln]

Im at hell looking at heaven

[stark kiln]

I got a PC but no Monitor for it

[rain dock]

?

[stark kiln]

?

[empty quartz]

The holy grail of smartphones

[ebon marlin]

poop

[latent pasture]

modern android competitor to iphone mini when

[ebon marlin]

There's been a bunch of mini android phones especially from the mainstream brands

[empty quartz]

This is the og iphone

Not some piece of junk

[latent pasture]

wher

i sorted gsma by <5.5inch and 2022+ lmao

[empty quartz]

I only see one decent device

Others are unsupported

[fringe prairie]

aw ultra is on its 3rd generation?

[empty quartz]

Yes

[latent pasture]

filtered it down to touchscreen android, wtf are these brands

[clear canyon]

Doogee fire 3 pro

[empty quartz]

Itel i9

I have only heard of 5 of those brands

[clear canyon]

I only see Nokia that i know

[empty quartz]

Blu, nokia, energizer, zte, and htc

[ebon marlin]

What about the zenfone

[clear canyon]

Frozone

[empty quartz]

Zenphone is asus

[latent pasture]

it makes up for the tiny screen by being over twice as thick as most phones lol

[clear canyon]

4gigs of ram 🗣️

[empty quartz]

Its funny how inefficient most android phones are

[wheat torrent]

HTC been popular back in the day, nokia did some good smartphones, ulefone did some decent armored phones

what are yall looking for

[empty quartz]

Htc also made the vive

[latent pasture]

modern competitor as ssmall as iphone mini watever the last number was

13 mini?

[fringe prairie]

zenfone possibly

the 9 or whichever one was small

[empty quartz]

iPhone 13 mini

[latent pasture]

zenfones r 5.9 inch
not great not terrible

[empty quartz]

I need the nicest phone

The 6.9” ifon

[clever sierra]

i built a pc for a customer and for several months it was good until this started happening with their psu. I was told that it was still functional. anyone know what might be wrong with this psu? btw i already replaced the customer’s psu

[gleaming rose]

hit em up would honestly be such a baller song if it wasn't for the horrific lyrics

[stark kiln]

Hit em up is a great song fym

[spring latch]

gotta get as many channels as possible

[clear canyon]

@left dove

[random gyro]

damn i was in the wrong chat

[neon vapor]

why doesnt windows update and shut down when i click on update and shut down

[rain dock]

Yo boys which is the best pc?

Performance wise, I can’t trust cgpt

[tall jetty]

There is only one price 700???

[rain dock]

Wym? I’m just wondering which will have the best fps and overall gameplay

[tall jetty]

Sorry haven't slept for a while

Brain noy working

[tall jetty]

Get the first one it seems the best on here to me

May be don't listen to me am sleep deprived rn ask someone else but my brain says 1st one

Can't trust me

[empty nebula]

can any1 id this gpu? im 90% sure the text says tuf gaming

[sharp ivy]

Because windows

I just never trust it

[tidal citrus]

https://youtu.be/Kk3oxSQ_UwM
O yeah and how are the people supposed to know this is a revised model? The average consumer does NOT check the model#. Sony needs to put out a post about this then!

[shadow zealot]

guys i got a lenovo loq i9 14900k and rtx 4060 12gb and 64gb ddr5 ram at 6000mhz

[sharp ivy]

lovely

[ivory mountain]

this looks like the top of a tuf 1660

[latent pasture]

is this a bot

[empty quartz]

[jaunty apex]

Zenfone

Modern as you're getting, just like the iPhone 13

[shadow zealot]

so much ram for ai and language processing

[empty quartz]

Thats like nothing for ram

Tf you on about

[shadow zealot]

no like

idk how to explain

[empty quartz]

No

64gb is not alot of ram

[jaunty apex]

Is for a consumer

[shadow zealot]

vm's

[shadow zealot]

i need it for vm linux

[jaunty apex]

Lmao how much RAM do you think Linux uses

[shadow zealot]

server

[empty quartz]

Wrong

[shadow zealot]

i keep multiple open

[shadow zealot]

then u rich

[empty quartz]

Also wrong

[jaunty apex]

It's called poor financial decisions

[shadow zealot]

u got 8 times more ram than my storage on my phone

[shadow zealot]

what u runing

[jaunty apex]

32

[shadow zealot]

yes

slow maths there

[empty quartz]

256gb aint much

[jaunty apex]

That's literally a Xeon wym not a server lol

[empty quartz]

@thorny saddle how much ram does your server have again?

[shadow zealot]

ive lived with 32gb storage and 4gb ram for 5y

[empty quartz]

Xeon != server

[shadow zealot]

yes

[thorny saddle]

which one

[sinful cobalt]

dawg a 32gb system can run vm linux completely fine

[empty quartz]

The expensive one

[thorny saddle]

home or work or

[clear pebble]

Bruh, I'm done with my PC.
Any ideas here?

Fixed ram, drivers reseat everything, checked temps, check connectors, checked bios switches, check event logs, fixed those. And yet, I still crash when I try to boot up space marine 2 or Titanfall 2, an 11 year old game, has to have model textures set lower or wifi will completely disconnect or the PC crashes.

[empty quartz]

The crazy one

[thorny saddle]

ha I am not sure which that is

[clear pebble]

Parts new, not even a year old except the motherboard which is 2 years old and used at that. But I doubt that's the issue. Also Ive done a factory reset to completely set everything to normal. Still crashes. Worse now in fact.

[thorny saddle]

My home lab has 3 servers w/ 768GB each

but that's small compared to the shit i do at work

[empty quartz]

@shadow zealot

[shadow zealot]

what

[empty quartz]

How much at work again?

[thorny saddle]

I mean... big. 3-8TB per server is common.

[empty quartz]

Thank you for proving my point sir

(My point being that 256gb is not alot)

[thorny saddle]

no today 256GB is not a lot

my NAS has 256GB

[jaunty apex]

We are forgetting something important here

use case

[shadow zealot]

my work laptop as good as ur cpu

[jaunty apex]

1/5th power draw lmao

[empty quartz]

You are comparing gaming performance

[shadow zealot]

its a "u" cpu

not for gaming at all

its for laptops with good battery life

[jaunty apex]

I guess it's contrarian night

[thorny saddle]

What is the discussion

[jaunty apex]

Apparently how big our RAM sticks are

AI and VMs though I guess

[empty quartz]

@jaunty apex having a xeon doesnt make a system a server

[empty quartz]

Thats ai

[jaunty apex]

Looking at a benchmark doesn't make.it for gaming?

I don't see your point

[thorny saddle]

Some Xeons are just i7's

[shadow zealot]

lesser than 15watts

[shadow zealot]

older ones

[jaunty apex]

With 18 cores

[shadow zealot]

ig

[shadow zealot]

explain how so

[thorny saddle]

18 cores smol boi

[jaunty apex]

.. For a xeon

[thorny saddle]

its 2025, my desktop has more

[empty quartz]

Do you have eyes

[shadow zealot]

yes but im bit slow in the head

[empty quartz]

Clearly

[shadow zealot]

explain pls

[shadow zealot]

its google ai

[midnight wind]

Now ask if Xeon CPUs are made for gaming

[shadow zealot]

i trust it

[empty quartz]

Its as trustworthy as a loan shark

[shadow zealot]

woow so funnyy

[empty quartz]

Im not making a joke

[midnight wind]

I can always trust that they get their money back

[shadow zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/youtube-wubbzy-screaming-relatable-gif-11703080083623608038

[empty quartz]

You may end up with broken legs though

There is no way this nico kid is not a troll

[jaunty apex]

If you reacted that way over someone telling you AI is untrustworthy you have other issues

[shadow zealot]

hell nah man

[thorny saddle]

relax ya'll

[jaunty apex]

If I relaxed any more I'd be dead

[thorny saddle]

mhm

[jaunty apex]

Oh I see

[empty quartz]

:3’ing

[ebon marlin]

They're not made for gaming but some "U" chips can run games really well I ran Resident Evil 4 Remake at high settings at 60fps on a 7840U

[empty quartz]

Either way

My xeon is not for gaming

[ebon marlin]

#killallxeons

[empty quartz]

My workstation wasnt built with gaming in mind

Although it does have a gaming gpu

[shadow zealot]

my r7 7730u with igpu gets solid frames in games

[ebon marlin]

I forgot to download Witcher 3 on this laptop before leaving for my ferry and now I'm using the ferry's wifi yall think I can get it downloaded before the ferry arrives in 2hrs

[shadow zealot]

150 ish on high render in minecrcaft

[shadow zealot]

not with 4.5mbps

maybe idk

[empty quartz]

No

[ebon marlin]

That's most likely using their old Vega graphics aswell since it's zen 3

[empty quartz]

Cya next century when that download finishes

[shadow zealot]

yes

[ebon marlin]

Yeah it has Vega 8 so the same as 5600G iirc

[ivory mountain]

The loading screen might download in that 2hr thats about it tho

[empty quartz]

So… its slower than my handheld

[ebon marlin]

Hmm

[ebon marlin]

My steam deck should be faster than that aswell

Zen2 but uses RDNA2 graphics

[shadow zealot]

forget downloading it now i get 2mbps peak in my room

[empty quartz]

My handheld is faster than your steam deck

[ebon marlin]

Not for long

I'm getting a Legion Go soon

[empty quartz]

Itll still be faster than your steam deck

[ebon marlin]

7500mt/s ram vs 6400mt/s

[ebon marlin]

It's not hard to beat a steam deck

[empty quartz]

True

[shadow zealot]

my old laptop is 2133mt/s

[ebon marlin]

Switch 2 and the Ps4 Pro both match the Steam Deck

Rate the ferry gaming setup

Forgot to turn on the white backlight so it doesn't have as much swag 💔

Doesn't even make a difference in a bright environment

Bro it's taking forever to launch far cry 5 why must ubisoft be so incompetent

It took over 10 minutes to launch far cry 5 oh my god bruh

[thorny saddle]

now that i am done custom looping my secondary machine what should I do

[buoyant bridge]

The SB&D heat guns are actually voodoo Black magic

gets hot enough to melt solder
Didn't even drop a bar replacing all my keyboard switches

[ebon marlin]

I need to install crystaldiskinfo/mark on this Lenovo Loq cuz how the hell is this laptops ssd slower than a harddrive oh my god bruh

[lost lance]

best gpu for $15

[ebon marlin]

Prolly an used 1050 ti/1060

[lost lance]

for 15 dollars??

[formal elbow]

Let's hear. What are you cooling with this thing?

Ignoring the fact that you'd probably take already hot air from the GPU

[summer jetty]

I9 14900ks.

[ivory mountain]

A computer part

[formal elbow]

With how big it is? I think ur colling the entire computer

[shadow zealot]

idk why it looked like a sli setup for a split second

[shadow zealot]

bro got gen -5 ssd

[latent pasture]

ded ssd

[summer jetty]

2 cpu coolers in sli, lol

[shadow zealot]

nah i changed the tab for a second i saw it. it looked like also for 2 whole mil second

[ebon marlin]

Abysmal dogshit

[buoyant bridge]

cacheless SSDs are slower than HDDs

[ebon marlin]

This is true if the case is with sata ssd's

But for nvme's cache isn't that important HMB is already good enough

[buoyant bridge]

i just put my keyboard backtogether and the period key quit again

[ebon marlin]

The nvme is often always faster than the dram cache

[buoyant bridge]

fml its only THAT key too

fuck this ima go get high and hope it dries out tmrw

[sly bolt]

Peerless assasin or Phantom spirit