tech-chat-1

[limpid dune]

yep, you'll see all the good OCers use single rank. It's why many ITX motherboards don't even have the second rank in the first place

[balmy hawk]

ok so my boss has 4x16tb Seagate expansion storage, and we do have a mini pc at work here so i could try to make a NAS out of that?

not ideal

[limpid dune]

nope - memory voltages can mean a bunch of things, generally either the voltage of the power on the DIMMs themselves or sometimes the voltages used to send the messages themselves. The IMC voltage (called VSOC on Ryzens) is the voltage of the I/O controller

[lethal bay]

What cpu

[balmy hawk]

imma move to #networking

[frigid blade]

13900kf

[tidal geyser]

Yes

[lethal bay]

ah nvm

[frigid blade]

Aha, I just know Ive set it to 1.35V

[limpid dune]

this is a better homelab than I even have 💀

unfortunately, having a parity drive on a 4x16 setup is going to mean "only" 48TB out of 64... but still, that's huge

[frigid blade]

Ill be upgrading to the Intel Core Ultra 9 285K tho

[limpid dune]

from what?

[frigid blade]

13900kf

[limpid dune]

OOH sorry I didn't read

[lethal bay]

Supposedly arrowlake plays much nicer as far as ram oc goes

[frigid blade]

no problem, i want to sell this PC and keep the 4090, put in a 3070Ti

Can maybe get $1k for it

[tidal geyser]

But that is about it

[limpid dune]

AMD ryzen 7000/9000 use 6nm IODs, while Intel chips use the same node as the cores because monolithic (and because weird tiling)

[upper abyss]

do you guys think theyre gonna do a rtx 5000 refresh and if yeah what theyll change Perf/price

[junior valve]

finally copped the 5700x build for 280$

[frigid blade]

All I know is that Intel tends to have better memory controllers, but theres something to do with distance that offsets those gains on the newer arrow lake CPUs or something like that?

[limpid dune]

hence why raptor lake / arrow lake is better for RAM OC.

beware, though; Intel says that they're going to change to a different socket in the next generation, so LGA-1851 is only ever going to be arrow lake with no upgrade path

[frigid blade]

despite the controller itself being more robust than raptor lake

[frigid blade]

Why? Thats so stupid

Why cant they be like AMD with socket support

It forces consumers to choose AMD if they want a path to upgrade thats cheaper than buying a new mobo and CPU

Then maybe I'll wait until next gen comes out and mess with the RAM OC then

what the fuck up to 52 cores in a flagship configuration for Nova Lake

[limpid dune]

Ryzens also have weird tricks to reduce latency, but it does take some knowledge ||raising FCLK to be a fraction of MCLK||. I'm on a 7900X3D with DDR5-6200 with the latency reduction trick. TL:DR - Ryzen IODs are weird. also the 7000s and the 9000s use the same IODs. the 8000s use different IODs which are actually very intel-like and very fast, but they're weird chips and not really good for other reasons.

Truthfully, the best RAM overclock is X3D.

Really, the big limitation with Ryzen 7000/9000 is that the infinity fabric can't go any faster than around 64GB/s read and 32GB/s write per CCD. they're gonna change that with 10000 but in the meantime we're stuck here

[frigid blade]

Nova Lake Silicon SKU #1: 52 Cores (16 P-Cores + 32 E-Cores + 4 LPE-Cores)

[limpid dune]

16 P-cores, 32 E-cores, 4 LPE-cores, 144MB L3?

either this is straight up not going to exist or it's gonna be on some insane quad-channel socket, because there's no way you're getting that many cores on dual-channel DDR5, even at DDR5-11000 or something. also this will cost at LEAST a billion dollars. also it doesn't make sense to have LPE cores on a desktop?

I fear nova lake is not cooking

are we getting a sequel to LGA-2066?

[frigid blade]

What is even the point?

Arent these supposed to be consumer CPUs?

[limpid dune]

yeah, that doesn't make sense

AMD is already going pretty far with 12-core CCDs (24 total cores), 52 cores is just stupid and unusable, only for threadripper fanboys

[frigid blade]

Is the fabric you speak of here the same as in this comment?

It's been rumored that Intel is reworking their chiplets to fix the poor fabric latency so hopefully that's true. LPe Skymont on Lunar Lake only has 4mb of L2 but it performs as well as skylake along with having great efficiency due to a lack of L3 cache

[limpid dune]

AMD and Intel use different fabric methods, but same idea - the "infinity fabric" is the connection used to connect the CCDs inside the CPU, a little bit like how PCIe connects external parts.

"it performs as well as skylake" is what they said about the OG ecores and those things suck 😭

[frigid blade]

I wonder if ill be able to run the 6800 cl34 XMP profile 4 dimms with this thing

[limpid dune]

6800? should be easily achievable on a 13900K. even most ryzens can hit ~7400 with good ram and custom timings

oh 4 DIMMs? lord no

[frigid blade]

hahaha

Saw a video of a dude doing 6000 CL32(4?) gear 1 (192gb) on an AM5 board

Whats with the "gear 1" with 4 dimms on AMD boards?

apparently its not real gear 1, but it does say gear 1

faster than gear 2 tho?

[gloomy sleet]

absolute satisfaction (it was a post that was very intentionally misleading)

[mint umbra]

Are tablets worth it over a laptop if it's mostly for watching movies web browsing

[frigid blade]

Also, how many things will 3 types of cores break?

Sounds stupid

[limpid dune]

idk about Intel, but on AMD, "gear" refers to the ratio between the fabric clock and the memory clock

really, you can run whatever timings you want on both of them, but ideally you make it so that your fabric clock is exactly 1/3 of the RAM clock, otherwise signals will have to wait for a little bit every time they go between the two. 1/3 is gear 1, 1/4 is gear 2. gear 2 lets you go up to ~7600 or so, but it does mean you might need to slow down the fabric clock to maintain that 1/4 ratio

as an example, my ryzen is at 2066MHz fabric and 6200MHz RAM, in gear 1, which is right about the sweet spot for Ryzen. stock fabric clock is 2000MHz, so that's a liiittle overclocked

[gloomy sleet]

i find a keyboard and mouse (trackpad but close enough) to be infinitely better then using touch controls for anything

[mint umbra]

I just fine battery life on laptops awful

Compared to tablets

[latent pasture]

dont get bad laptops then

[limpid dune]

generally the upper limit for AM5 fabric is ~2133, so DDR5-6400 is doable, maybe DDR5-6600 if you're really lucky in first gear.

if you go to second gear, you can usually set fabric to ~1800 and run DDR5-7200, but the low fabric clock means bandwidth is bad. generally, DDR5-7800 is about the limit for AM5, even with good memory. But in gear 2, the limited fclk means that you kinda get "stuck" and you can't improve bandwidth beyond that

latency does improve though

[frigid blade]

I shall continue this convo if I remember once I wake up, its 3 AM here I will take a nap

[mint umbra]

Well I don't want to break the bank

And seems only apple has laptops with good battery

[upper abyss]

so is it even worth to oc past 1st gear?

[limpid dune]

going past 1rst gear can improve latency, but bandwidth will be kinda constant

[upper abyss]

what does bad bandwith do?

[limpid dune]

it really depends, some applications are sensitive to that (photo editing, data analysis, AI) but others don't care

do note; the dual-CCD ryzens can pull 64GB/s per CCD, so multi-thread workloads can usually make use of a second-gear bus with that

it's really a preference thing, just like "good CL vs good MHz"

[upper abyss]

still not sure i understand but thanks

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/harukaze5719/status/1916683458509955527?t=RZecsRbaC90q2D39Ob_bgg&s=19

포시포시 (@[e-mail])

NVIDIA is preparing RTX 50 SUPER products?
- RTX 5080 SUPER 24GB
- RTX 5070 SUPER 18GB
https://www.ithome.com/0/849/425.htm
https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=2691582&pid=57221021

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 28, 2025, 2:38 AM

The 5080 24gb seems to be a Super model

[latent pasture]

we need to flog samsung more so they make more of the 3gb vram chips

thats literally the perfect solution to the current woes

[ebon marlin]

9gb gpu's

[upper abyss]

probably coming 2026 ig then

[ebon marlin]

9gb 96bit

[mint umbra]

What is good Windows laptop with decent battery life

That is under 1k

[ebon marlin]

If you want good battery life then Windows is out of the equation

If you want good battery then Macbook is ur best choice

[mint umbra]

Was thinking of going drop tablet to a laptop

Currently have a Samsung tablet

Don't want apple products

[ebon marlin]

A laptop with an 7840U/8840U chip but those chips are reserved for business laptops so they're extremely expensive

[mint umbra]

Apple is all about eco system bs

I ain't about that

Aren't macs expensive af

And mostly for productivity

[ebon marlin]

Macbook Air M4 is like 1k or less

[mint umbra]

Like I don't use any of those apple exclusive programs

[ebon marlin]

899$ if you're a student

Comes by default with 16gb ram too yumyum

256gb ssd tho

[mint umbra]

I just like windows idk

[ebon marlin]

What are you gonna use it for

[sinful cobalt]

Great, 4090 undervolted edition!

it’d be crazy if the 5070 gets 18gb vram icl

5070ti is gonna be in a weird spot

18gb or 24gb 5070TiS?

[marble sparrow]

Whats up dudes, What TV's are recommended for PC gaming atm? Can't find any info on people using their PC's with TV's for gaming. Heard TV's have bad input lag. But can PC's solve the input lag the same way consoles can?

[limpid dune]

lots of TVs do have G-Sync

[marble sparrow]

I been thinking about getting a Sony Bravia 8, want to make sure i get a good experience if i hook my pc to it. Its an expencive screen.

[gloomy sleet]

worth £300?

it is 1x16gb luckily

[plush wren]

just look for a pro m3 used 16gb

[gloomy sleet]

bro a 2400 and a gt710 is not £75

[mint umbra]

Just daily browsing and movies ect

[plush wren]

blud doesnt want a macbook

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1149324468037095434/1307167354370654308/attachment.gif

[eternal reef]

guys, would a 12600kf (+£75) be a worth while upgrade from a 13400f? (I haven't bought either)

its £75 more because I need a cpu cooler with it

[tidal geyser]

A cpu cooler not even close to 75

More like 30

[frigid blade]

Cheaper even

[rigid fjord]

nope, you'd want a 13600k/14600k/13700/14700/13700k/14700k

[tidal geyser]

I am talking high end

[tidal geyser]

He has nothing

[frigid blade]

High end cooler for lower end cpu :P

[tidal geyser]

What are your current parts

[tidal geyser]

Well he can then over time grab a higher end cpu without changing cooler all while also low temps aka low noise over that time

[frigid blade]

Yah, you right

[eternal reef]

I haven't got any atm, but I just got a new job, my plan is to save up and buy everything but as gpu (use my gt730) and then one I decide I don't wanna wait any longer I'd get the gpu, I might also be able to save some money by getting certain parts for birthdays, so cheaper things like cpu coolers/cases ect technically might not be a cost.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jdgrnp

I plan on changing it though, this was just getting a rough idea on the cost of everything

[tidal geyser]

Have you looked used

[eternal reef]

I know it might sound dumb, but I don't wanna buy used if I am going to be spending £1000 on a pc, I'd rather wait a month or 2 longer than go used

maybe with the gpu I might go used but thats it

[bronze jay]

That's not dumb

[eternal reef]

also, I've never actually built a pc for myself before

[bronze jay]

I don't want to buy used either even though it's cheaper

I don't like having extra variables that can go wrong

[eternal reef]

I'd only go used if I found a 4090 for like 400 bucks off of msrp

and I knew it wasnt a scam

[bronze jay]

Same

You don't have to justify your decisions to anyone but yourself

I learned that after getting into several stupid and useless arguments with people

[rigid fjord]

if your budget is 500, you could do way better than this

[eternal reef]

I haven't done pc stuff in too long, I go dry if I am not constantly doing stuff :/, could you help me?

xd

[rigid fjord]

tbf, an r5 5600 +6700xt build could be found for 500 or there abouts

[rigid fjord]

scam

[eternal reef]

a 12400f (better lows) performs the exact same for gaming as a 5600 and a 13400f is so much better than

oh dude hol up

[tidal geyser]

FYI that is with a 4090

[eternal reef]

I am not buying gpu, the £500 budget is for no gpu

[rigid fjord]

13400f = 12600k minus being able to OC

[eternal reef]

I see

[eternal reef]

I see 2.0

[tidal geyser]

Also do not use any other then a i3 intel cpu with the stock cooler

[eternal reef]

I see 3.0

[rigid fjord]

tbh, i5's that aren't 'k' or 'ks' it can be used with

[tidal geyser]

Na

Seen em overheat badly with stock before

[eternal reef]

the k's dont even come with coolers

[tidal geyser]

Well no shit

[eternal reef]

tbf I think most would be fine without a cooler, but since all chips vary, its probably not worth the risk

I would rather it be quieter anyway

[rigid fjord]

doing this i'd go for an am5 build

[tidal geyser]

Yup

[eternal reef]

(Ik its random, but too quiet is bad, whenever I turn my pc off my ears start to ring because its too quiet ://

[tidal geyser]

8500g and some good ram

[steel umbra]

Either some 99.9% risk pyramid scheme or straight up scam

[rigid fjord]

no

[tidal geyser]

Get a white noise machine

[tidal geyser]

8600g and some bad ram

[rigid fjord]

better but tbh, 7600 + good ram easily

[eternal reef]

It only happens when I am sat down at my setup, I have conditioned my brain to freak out when im at my desk with no pc on

[tidal geyser]

How bad would the 7600 igpu be compared to a 730

[eternal reef]

so healthy...

[sturdy thistle]

could someone @ me rq, pls?

rip

[lapis talon]

Is the NZXT C850 good? Is it ATX 3.1?

[tidal geyser]

It's fine

[sturdy thistle]

atx 3.1? like the psu standard?

[lapis talon]

Yes ig

[rigid fjord]

closer to a 1030 tbh

[sturdy thistle]

i see

[lapis talon]

Is it ATX 3.1 or 2.5

[steel umbra]

Good

Very good

[steel umbra]

Oh... No

[lapis talon]

Should I go for the white one to put in my black and silver build? I'm planning on getting a white gpu for a monochrome

[steel umbra]

What's the price

[lapis talon]

As a 7600 owner, idk

[lapis talon]

$105 approx (USD)

[steel umbra]

Ye

[lapis talon]

Ye doesn't tell me much imo

Worth the price?

[steel umbra]

Unless you have any other good options

[steel umbra]

What are your other options

[lapis talon]

Can you help me out by checking startechbd or Ryan's bd

[tidal geyser]

450 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/d4cNZc

[lapis talon]

There's a thermal take one but I don't like thermal take, and then there's a cooler master one that I forgot the name of

Thermal take is GF3 850w

[tidal geyser]

yea

[eternal reef]

I am looking for the best pc for £500 no gpu (act as if I already own smt like a 7800 xt)
No used parts, Has to be on PcPartPicker (no aliexpress)
I don't mind stretching the price to even £700 if the bump in performance is especially good
no bios flashes (unless I can do it with an xeon e3-1220v2 xD)

[tidal geyser]

well

[tidal geyser]

wait do you already own a pc

[eternal reef]

whats the am5 version of smt like a 5600

[eternal reef]

yes but its older than my arse crack

[tidal geyser]

8400f

[eternal reef]

I mean the direct version, not performance wide, like i3 12100f vs i3 14100f

[tidal geyser]

i asked about that and you said you did not have it

[tidal geyser]

not a massive amount of performance there, can only do so much with 4 cores

[eternal reef]

ik ik, that was just an example

[tidal geyser]

anyways, no gpu then this

best APU build

[tepid sonnet]

Hi just wondering would I lose performance if I would connect a monitor to my laptop and use it as my main screen?

[tidal geyser]

no

[lapis talon]

Brother disappeared

[tidal geyser]

might even make it feel better

[tepid sonnet]

Okay thanks

[eternal reef]

needs a bios flash doesn't it? also act as if I alr own a 7800 xt, I'd rather not compromise my performance in the future at all, everything that a new pc would help with tbh, hardly uses gpu at all

[tidal geyser]

it does not

[eternal reef]

alr

[tepid sonnet]

Any good monitor recommendations around 150€-170€ 165hz-180hz hdmi?

[tidal geyser]

then go a650bn

[eternal reef]

Thats a psu?

my fav 650w tbh

[lapis talon]

Which resolution

[frigid blade]

What res

[lapis talon]

Hi rauko

[rigid fjord]

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-six-core-5-3ghz-asrock-a620m-hdv-m-2-motherboard-cpubundle.html this plus https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/QnP9v4 = £479 totsl

[mellow shadow]

I've looked high and low are there any adapters for the WI-FI plug thing?

[frigid blade]

Adapter?

[rigid fjord]

gigaabyte doing a dumb as usual

[tidal geyser]

how did you lose them

[tepid sonnet]

Uhh

[rigid fjord]

sup

[mellow shadow]

yeah something to make it standard

[frigid blade]

It’s just RP-SMA type connectors

[lapis talon]

Bro doesn't know

[tepid sonnet]

1920x1080 HD

[eternal reef]

thats not actually that good of a deal, you can get that with a better mobo for the same price + its in stock

[tepid sonnet]

1920x1080 Hd but I want to be able to stretch my rez

[lapis talon]

Won't the gigabyte g24f v2 (I think that's the name) be good then?

[rigid fjord]

@tidal geyser £29 more with alot more performance tbh

[thin umbra]

thinking of getting a mini itx mobo with no native sata ports and already have a plan to put 2 nvme ssd in and a gpu so have no slot for pcie so would this work for running 2 blue ray drives in the case https://a.co/d/51NReIU

[tidal geyser]

how

[frigid blade]

They are generally RP-SMA connectors

[tepid sonnet]

Could you send me a link on Amazon of the monitor?

[tidal geyser]

last time i checked the r5 7600x igpu is utterly dogshit

[lapis talon]

Uhh alright 1 sec

[tidal geyser]

anyways yes with a gpu it is way way better

[eternal reef]

I said to act as if I own a 7800xt

[frigid blade]

This is where my RF knowledge actually applies in the real world

[lapis talon]

Dunno if it's on sale though

[tepid sonnet]

Oh frixk

[tidal geyser]

but you do not, how long did you plan it out until you got it after the pc

[rigid fjord]

it's basically a 1030 for an igpu, which tbh is better than a gt730, in the end it would give more performance for when he puts in a better gpu

[tidal geyser]

yes

[thin umbra]

whink about this mobo

[tidal geyser]

but if he is going to take like half a year to do it then just go 8600g and sell it for then a 7500f or something

[thin umbra]

https://a.co/d/gNMdcTm

[tidal geyser]

wat

[rigid fjord]

no, no you can't get a better mobo with the 7600x for the same price, it then becomes £100 more for the better mobo

[thin umbra]

thinking of getting a mini itx mobo with no native sata ports and already have a plan to put 2 nvme ssd in and a gpu so have no slot for pcie so would this work for running 2 blue ray drives in the case https://a.co/d/51NReIU

[steel umbra]

Skip, just buy the nzxt C or rmx

[chilly escarp]

anyone have experience with intune? I want to update an app link to an existing app link app, but it's grayed out

[eternal reef]

a 7600x costs £171 free shipping, that leaves £109 for a mobo

[lapis talon]

@tepid sonnet GIGABYTE G24F 2- 24" 165Hz/180Hz(OC) 1080P Gaming Monitor, 1920 x 1080 SS IPS Display, 1ms (MPRT) Response Time, 95% DCI-P3, 125% sRGB, 1x DisplayPort 1.2 (HDR ready), 2x HDMI 2.0, 3x USB 3.2 https://a.co/d/jeGHQN6

[tidal geyser]

i have heard of it

its for IT system managment over lots and lots of computers

[lapis talon]

How's cooler master? Let me go get the model real quick

[frigid blade]

I stopped going main brand when it comes to monitors

[tidal geyser]

did you not see anything he sent you

[thin umbra]

you ask what then ingore what i am asking

[tepid sonnet]

This looks good

[lapis talon]

I wanted an AOC one but the Asus XG27ACG stole the spot for me

[chilly escarp]

I wanna know how to actually update the url, I can't find the solution

[eternal reef]

yes, I would save £30 to go buy the exact same mobo and cpu seperately

[tidal geyser]

nope

[lapis talon]

Pretty popular iirc

[rigid fjord]

and a good b650 that's atx and not matx if you want atx mobo instead is going to cost you an easy £130

[tidal geyser]

no clue, good luck

[lapis talon]

I don't know much about monitors but the g24f 2 seemed good to me if you can get a good deal on it

[eternal reef]

that mobo exactly is £80 with free shipping, the cpu is £171 with free shipping, The combo costs £280 I could get them both for £251 seperately

[lapis talon]

I got a matx B650 and I regret it

[tepid sonnet]

g24f 2 is hdmi port?

[rigid fjord]

matx boards are good, but tbh if you want to connect a ton of pcie stuff to a mobo, you'd want atx

[tidal geyser]

why

[lapis talon]

Im pretty sure it has one but I don't know if the HDMI port can handle 180hz

[eternal reef]

his case is prolly atx

[tidal geyser]

or not a consumer platform

[tepid sonnet]

How would I connect it to my laptop then?

[tidal geyser]

adapters

[lapis talon]

Didn't realize it, saw that it's $130, which was pretty cheap for a 4 slot for ram sticks b650

[tidal geyser]

4 slot?

4 slot means its worse

[lapis talon]

But I realized that it's a matx after buying it

[rigid fjord]

4 ram slots doesn't make a mobo better

[lapis talon]

I wanted to be able to increase the amount of sticks in the future without selling my current sticks

[lapis talon]

Yeah ik

[chilly escarp]

thanks.

[lapis talon]

But ram is extremely expensive in my region for some reason and the resell value is absurd

[tidal geyser]

but lose like 20% of your performance

[rigid fjord]

lol, that would be fine if it was a mobo using ddr4, not ddr5 tbh

[frigid blade]

Just so you know, you’ll most likely LOSE performance using 4 slots

[lapis talon]

A worth it trade off for me as I don't really need the best performance in the world by spending more money in the long run

[lapis talon]

Yeahhh

[frigid blade]

But what do you need more ram for

[rigid fjord]

not most likely, it's a most definitely

[lapis talon]

I definitely will but I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon, but when I do need to get more ram, I'll keep my current sticks

[frigid blade]

How much are you getting now? 32GB is enough for literally any game

[lapis talon]

I learned this the hard way with my last motherboard 💀

[steel umbra]

Minecraft at 128+ render distance mod: hehe

[tidal geyser]

at that point i would imagine ram sticks are a lot better

like 6000 cl20 sticks for cheap or some shit

[lapis talon]

32gb but I often play with my friends and whatnot and need to host servers for mc on my pc

[frigid blade]

And you’ll have more money to make an upgrade instead of buying more of the same one

[frigid blade]

Mc server only needs like 8GB max

[steel umbra]

cl20

[frigid blade]

Leaves you with 24, still enough for most games

[lapis talon]

Which is silly but windows also uses like 30-40% of the ram on kdle

[lapis talon]

Not when you add mods

[frigid blade]

Then it isn’t idle

[tidal geyser]

uhm sorry to tell you but windows only uses like 4GB

4 is not 20-40% of 32

[eternal reef]

this is what I am going with so far
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/n2hGNz (£533)

[tidal geyser]

anything extra is you

[lapis talon]

By idle I meant Firefox running in the background, discord, and some other stuff. But Im not using the pc when it uses up 30%

[frigid blade]

._.

[lapis talon]

I didn't word it properly but I meant all the other background applications 💀

[tidal geyser]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PvpFqH

[tidal geyser]

get rid of em

[steel umbra]

Idle would be considered windows after booting with no background tasks or at most a launcher running in the background

[lapis talon]

I'm going to get a psu in the next 2 days and planning on going for the Nzxt one

[lapis talon]

I use them

[charred kiln]

Hmm.. I kinda want a steam deck but it's kinda weak for devices from the same category and price, but I don't want to deal with windows on a handheld..

[lapis talon]

Ohh I see

[frigid blade]

You most likely won’t though, Minecraft servers have automatic garbage collection, as long as the mods themselves don’t use up more than 8GB, which they shouldn’t, you’ll be fine

[eternal reef]

would you see the red text on them in a case? the ram that is

[tidal geyser]

wat

[swift kestrel]

these are temps with 32 render distance and minecraft shaders

[tidal geyser]

not sure if that would matter but probs not

[swift kestrel]

thermal paste coming in clutch

[tidal geyser]

those are great

[tidal geyser]

for laptops thermal pads are best

[swift kestrel]

just replaced the paste with mx-6

working really really well

[steel umbra]

I'd probably disable the launcher as well from starting at boot up if you're doing testing

[swift kestrel]

it had a thermal pad but it was starting to die

[frigid blade]

Anyway, I know it’s not what you want to hear, but you don’t need an upgrade path for more than 32GB, lol

[steel umbra]

so no additional tasks are running

[lapis talon]

It becomes messy when you've got mods on the server and on the game client

[swift kestrel]

still gets 60fps with a gtx 1650 at least

good to see it finally not thermal throttle

[steel umbra]

Ye very middle of the line paste

[swift kestrel]

i was told to get it from this server too lol

[tidal geyser]

yeah cmon LM all of it, LM the WORLD

[tidal geyser]

the difference of even a thermal pad and mx 6 is like 1-2c

[swift kestrel]

the mx 6 is cheaper i think too

i got it for 12aud

[lapis talon]

60 fps with shaders? Should I be concerned that my 2060S struggles with 50 fps on medium settings

[swift kestrel]

which is what like 8usd idk

[swift kestrel]

LOLL what im on high settings

[charred kiln]

I like how people laugh about how undemanding Minecraft is... Till you turn on shaders

[lapis talon]

Oh wow

[swift kestrel]

its still kind hard to run but if you get the right optimizations ur all good

[frigid blade]

Because it’s not, it doesn’t count when you need a modded client

[lapis talon]

I'm going to buy a 9070 xt next month, should I replace my GPUs thermalpad or whatever right now?

[charred kiln]

Ye sodium and shit, I use fabulously optimized and add my own mods

[steel umbra]

Y it's alright especially for a gtx 1650

[swift kestrel]

this is with fabric and a couple of fps mods and i can get 300+ on 32

[charred kiln]

Vannila Minecraft is downright unplayable, no matter what ur PC is

[swift kestrel]

oh nice i use simply optimized

[frigid blade]

Unplayable how?

[swift kestrel]

im not lying but i find it works just fine when speedrunning

i can play just fine on 20 render distance and yeah its a lil stuttery when loading in but it smooths out

[rigid fjord]

the ram sucks, and tbh, you'd want a 750w psu for that gpu

[steel umbra]

Since they switches to 64bit only it has improved iirc

[lapis talon]

I wouldn't say unplayable, but it can feel like it's missing something after playing for some time

[charred kiln]

Its very demanding on the cpu in singleplayer, and it stutters a lot, another thing... It's just less fun

[eternal reef]

what ram should I go with?

[tidal geyser]

the stuff i sent

[steel umbra]

What's your cpu

[eternal reef]

alr

[tidal geyser]

what cpu

[rigid fjord]

the silicon power one i put in the link i sent would have been way better, do not go for corsair ram

[tidal geyser]

faster then me 😦

[frigid blade]

He said no matter what PC 💀

[steel umbra]

Muhahahahah so poor

ez win +100 social kredit

[tidal geyser]

what

[lapis talon]

Alright guys I'm going for the NZXT C850's UK one 🫡

[frigid blade]

#tech-chat-1 message

[tidal geyser]

not seen a 9800X3D and 5090 pc stutter

[eternal reef]

how much should I be spending on a 750w psu?

[tidal geyser]

no

[eternal reef]

damn

[charred kiln]

R5 5600 and I tried the same with a 12400f, and my laptops Ryzen 7735hs, and my dad's laptop 185-something, they all were trash

[umbral fable]

tbf cant remember the last time I played vanilla minecraft, even when we play vanilla i use fabric 😄

[eternal reef]

tbf 750w seems a bit overkill

[frigid blade]

What about the recent drivers issue?

[rigid fjord]

7800xt dude, he'll want a 750w

[tidal geyser]

not that

no as in do not do that kinda stuff, go for quality not generic price

[tidal geyser]

ok 9800X3D and 9070 xt

[eternal reef]

if I was to go with a 7900 gre would that need a 750w?

[rigid fjord]

ah, true

[tidal geyser]

i dono, not seen ANY issues on anything i own

[swift kestrel]

forcing minecraft bedrock to not use vsync and 900 fps in menus lol

[rigid fjord]

minimum yes

[charred kiln]

I am talking pure vanilla no mods thru the mc launcher and everything

[frigid blade]

I’m gonna show you something if I remember, I bet you I could get a 4500U running 60FPS 720P no stuttering

[tidal geyser]

me too

[eternal reef]

would it be enough for a 7900xtx?

[charred kiln]

Sure...

[tidal geyser]

yes

[charred kiln]

I have my doubts

[tidal geyser]

but tbh i would do 850w then

or just a A tier 750w

[ebon marlin]

https://stupidpenisx.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1916781758621843557?t=LRXaRnqoKDtYwpHtMIIdCA&s=19
What kinda phone case is that why is it screwed down 😭

HIDEO_KOJIMA (@[e-mail])

☮️

vxTwitter / fixvx 💖 548 🔁 45 · Apr 28, 2025, 9:09 AM

[umbral fable]

Nah issue with vanilla mc is chunk generation, if you explore a lot you do get stuttering even on high end systems

[charred kiln]

Singleplayer is not very optimized

[eternal reef]

if 850w isnt that much more expensive I'll go with it, but if its more than like £20 I wont

[charred kiln]

Make ur iphone a Samsung type shit

[tidal geyser]

how big was the render distance

[rigid fjord]

yes but for a 7900xt/7900xtx you'd really want an 850w psu instead

[eternal reef]

ok

[charred kiln]

12

[eternal reef]

I'll see what I can/will afford

[charred kiln]

Altho I usually use 20

[tidal geyser]

i dono then, skill issue i guess

was multi core chunk generation on

[eternal reef]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4Ltrnp

hol up

[tidal geyser]

what is it about that motherboard

£4 more and you get a usable one

[eternal reef]

nothing tbh, just much cheaper than the rest and seems sufficient

[tidal geyser]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/bHBzK8/asrock-a620m-hdvm2-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-a620m-hdvm2

[eternal reef]

alr, I'll go with that then

[tidal geyser]

£4

[eternal reef]

btw what is the difference

[steel umbra]

Hmmm interesting

[tidal geyser]

you can see

no joke its literally the same motherboard but with one difference

[eternal reef]

does it just have pcie gen 5 or 1 more slot or smt

[tidal geyser]

cmon you can do this

[eternal reef]

Its smt to do with m.2's but I dont wanna look at the image to tell

[tidal geyser]

what is different

you can spot it from a mile away

[eternal reef]

alr yeah its the ports

[tidal geyser]

NO

[eternal reef]

1 m.2 vs 2

what

why'd I say ports...

[tidal geyser]

o wow they are different boards

[steel umbra]

One is bad the other one is trash

[tidal geyser]

ding ding ding

[steel umbra]

nukes you

[tidal geyser]

but no a620 is usable and it has qflash+ and so on

the main difference is that one has a VRM heatsink

[eternal reef]

damn

so the + looks better

[steel umbra]

Different vrm setup and so on

[eternal reef]

tbh I'd go with it even if that was the only difference

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

[tidal geyser]

xd

[eternal reef]

bro

[frigid blade]

@tidal geyser is the idle RAM usage based on memory in the system linear until it hits a max?

[eternal reef]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fvgqQd

[tidal geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571373155638050839/1327621071922532432/IMG_0273.gif

[frigid blade]

So like, if you have 8gb installed, itll use 2gb, but once you hit for example 32gb it doesnt need more than 4gb?

[eternal reef]

im stealing this

[tidal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/thief-stealing-stole-cat-kidnapping-gif-3618692558313217138

[frigid blade]

Thats the lowest I can get it to go on boot

[eternal reef]

Five hours later

[frigid blade]

i typed for like 10 seconds

[eternal reef]

it was showing that you were typing for 3 minutes

[tidal geyser]

well yea

[frigid blade]

maybe it was a ghost

oh i know what it is

[umbral fable]

the more ram you have the more windows uses i find 😄

[frigid blade]

I havent seen a boot go over 8gb with startup disabled on everything

[tidal geyser]

i have a laptop with 64GB after boot i am at 4GB

[frigid blade]

i have a laptop but no charger for it

more like 15 laptops

and no chargers

[umbral fable]

After boot im usually 900MB-1.2GB

[frigid blade]

I shall test on a win 11 iot enterprise ltsc install later today

with 8gb ram

ddr3 💀

[mellow cairn]

After I start vscode and chrome I'm usually using about 20gb ram

[somber mauve]

Hey guys need some help with my out put on streaming. My recording all look a bit blurry when moving around but stationary looks great. Any idea why?

[frigid blade]

low bitrate?

[tidal geyser]

use cqp

[somber mauve]

Bit rate is a 4500 gpu is a 9070xt

[tidal geyser]

XD

[tidal geyser]

use cqp

if recording or the highest bit rate allowed for streaming

also make sure its doing your screen res

[somber mauve]

cpq??

My screen res is 1440

[graceful girder]

...well?

[frigid blade]

a ghost

[graceful girder]

Ah

[frigid blade]

Im kidding, sometimes im thinking of something to type and I type while thinking but end up not sending and deleting what i typed

[tidal geyser]

is OBS doing 1440p

[graceful girder]

Aight, makes sense

[frigid blade]

I love when steam actually uses all of your internet speed

instead of downloading slow af

[somber mauve]

I dont think so let me check.

[graceful girder]

Sometimes I just wanna download in the background

[tidal geyser]

are these the same?

[graceful girder]

Now I can't watch yt cuz steam is busy

[frigid blade]

common 👎 fractional 👍

[somber mauve]

Yep

[tidal geyser]

what are you streaming to

[somber mauve]

Twitch this is my output

[frigid blade]

best bitrate

[frigid blade]

go max bitrate

it tells you the max for what service you stream to if you go over

[tidal geyser]

well yea that too

set it to 7800 for bitrate

[somber mauve]

Does my interent speed make a diffrence with bitrates??

I have 1000/50

[tidal geyser]

ofc

[tidal geyser]

unless someone is torrenting or something its fine

[somber mauve]

So try run 7800 on my stream?

[plush wren]

[frigid blade]

bro i did it again, you cant run the install of rocket league from steam if you have the same epic games account

[tidal geyser]

yes

[somber mauve]

Amazing thank you for your help ❤️

[frigid blade]

ew they made a popout for epic games when you wanna look at your active downloads

thats so gross, put it back into the same window

[reef arrow]

is 12gb vram really that low or why are ppl complaining

because it seems all stuff I can try fits in this limit
or is it just bad to be close to the limit performance wise

[tidal geyser]

4k

[tardy jay]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-mark-meme-ireetable-gif-9511739422236118481

Where’s my package usps?

[wind radish]

xg27acdng vs oled g6, the asus is 910 usd samsung is 740 usd would you guys say the asus is worth the extra?

[upper abyss]

elp

my pc fan screws wont go into the fan :,)

[strange atlas]

How does msi b450m a pro max have better audio quality then asrock b450 steel legend

[lime bone]

Guys does Ubiquiti mean with their U6 Long-Range AP a diameter of 185m2?

or how does it work?

And in that case, should I wait for the U7 Long-Range (if it'll come)

[upper abyss]

i think theyre tapping screws, gotta buy a screwdriver now :(

[lime bone]

(please ping me for a reply)

[upper abyss]

i hope aldi sells screwdrivers rn

[true stirrup]

You don't have a screwdriver?

[upper abyss]

nope, not a proper one

js some small shit from when i repaired my phone

theyre gonna strip the screws

[south arrow]

Think I'm looking at the right specs for the router

[true stirrup]

Imagine

[south arrow]

Depends how you set it up like wifi 5g travels less then a 2.4g signal so to speak but it's a solid router all in all. As for if you should wait, couldn't say

[upper abyss]

gimme 😭

fucking kids are outta school i js wanna go my way ew

14yo mfs vaping

[true stirrup]

Yeah it's sad

[grizzled frost]

i got a ltt screwdriver and an ifixit mako kit, basically every bit you’ll ever need

[south arrow]

I'm a cheap beasy I got like a $20 specialty kit that works well

[upper abyss]

aldi is my last hope 🙏

[south arrow]

https://amzn.to/4lRjrJy

Went up to $30 lame

[grizzled frost]

I like buying quality stuff once than cheap stuff multiple times

[upper abyss]

cheap doesnt mean bad

[south arrow]

That's fair depending on the item haven't had to replace this kit over the last 20 repairs so it's working for now

Restored every one

[grizzled frost]

generally speaking, it does

you get what you pay for

[south arrow]

For some things*

[true stirrup]

I have a specific screwdriver for most screws and a screwdriver with bits for basically any screw I would ever need

[upper abyss]

an indication yes but dont use it as Synonym

[south arrow]

Ahh yiss theee screwdriver I have all these specialty ones but there's an old philips I prefer to use every time cause it's just convenient probs muscle mem or smth

[upper abyss]

only thing i see is a 100€ toolset hell nah

[south arrow]

Not that I wouldn't get the nicer brand stuff if I had it like that ❤️ 🐛

[upper abyss]

real shit

[south arrow]

Need more coffees

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-time-adventure-time-coffee-gif-1811680171640299873

[upper abyss]

ig i gotta do some Sidequests to search forba phillips screwdriver

and hope its somewhat the right size

[south arrow]

I believeee in youuu

[dapper light]

my room starts feeling like a sauna even with AC on with this 3090

[mellow shadow]

should i get a 420mm aio?

[upper abyss]

for what Hardware

[mellow shadow]

9800X3D

[south arrow]

Keks it likes to run alil hoot

🌞

[upper abyss]

dayum

[south arrow]

If you're down could be some funs

[upper abyss]

rich

[true stirrup]

For which even a dualtower aircooler is already more than enough

[mellow shadow]

its only 86 clams for the ARGB version

[frail delta]

Quite the collection 👀

[mellow shadow]

also its the arctic liquid freezer 3 420

[south arrow]

I got a few for cheap one neaded the traces on the mobo repaired some needed new dvd drives (got way lucky fixing all those) but got it all set now my brother's have one, my kids, myself and sold like 3 now have 1 left to get rid of

[mellow shadow]

for what thats worth

[south arrow]

And then ofc pasting and upgrading from 40 pin ide to 80 pin satas for each ❤️. Was alot easier then restoring the ps2's

[mellow shadow]

is arctic a good OEM for aios?

id assume so

[south arrow]

Artic is my fav

Artic lf2 and 3 are superbs

All had LF's don't mind the hive sticks

[opal gull]

So... did a thing yesterday.. with a lot of headaches with installing windows 10 (it was my first time doing it...)
But got this time machine working again:

[south arrow]

GGs That Athlons doing it's best

[solar moat]

nice

[opal gull]

I mean, it is installing windows updates.
When its doing nothing, it sits at ~18%

[solar moat]

i got the amd athlong II x2 270 running windose 11

[opal gull]

Yea, I tried to get windows 11 to work.
It continuously did boot loops...

I mean, hey, this one use to run... drum roll please
Windows 7

With an hdd..

[south arrow]

But at least she bootsss

[opal gull]

Technically, its a hand me down system.
It was my wife's mother's old pc.
Can't really get my personal pc up and running, because, well...
Hopefully you saw the images I sent yesterday.

It has no CPU or ram.
Has everything else..

[south arrow]

Oh I see, that'll do it , my baby has me up since 3:30am today I'm barely alive, send hallp

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-dance-dance-pepe-dancing-pepe-pepe-dancing-gif-5386336971666611655

[mellow shadow]

this pcpp list is gonna be all sorts of fucked up

[solar moat]

rate my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mc8QKq

[south arrow]

I wonder what titles that can play outside the cpu like doesn't seem all to shabby for retro gaming

[solar moat]

it beats a i5 13400F and 4060 in fornight

[south arrow]

That's killer

[opal gull]

Oof...
Take a few melatonin gummies. Like, 5 at least.
You'll be fine! You won't wake up with a headache so bad that you'd wish you were dead.

[solar moat]

yes the game engine is pile of crap

[south arrow]

If I didn't have to tend the to the baby I'd be out like a rockkk xD

No gummies neededs

[opal gull]

But where's the fun in that?..
But, seriously, try to get some type of sleep.

[south arrow]

In an hour my girls get up for school only dooms, eventually sleep though.. one day

https://tenor.com/view/hoppy-pepe-the-frog-driving-hoppy-the-frog-carry-minati-gif-11823957163445095231

I'm sitting^

[opal gull]

Gotcha.
Also, I don't think you guys will like how the system is standing...

[south arrow]

How is it standing?

[solar moat]

nice

[south arrow]

Lmao my man's risking it for the biscuits

[opal gull]

Yea, I'm kind of treating it like grandpa..
When I power it down, gotcha unplug 'em.

[south arrow]

I'd give that psu alittle space but if she works

[opal gull]

Thats the least of your concerns...
Its the cpu

There is no thermal paste on it as we speak

[south arrow]

Oh famsss

Whyyyyy xD

[opal gull]

We have no thermal paste in this house 🥲

[south arrow]

Actually that's probs fine for short burst use

But eventually gotta get like at least a $5 stick

Idk your temps I'm sure you could undervolt or something if needed and survive off the fan heatsink transfer temporarily

[ebon marlin]

https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/amd-reportedly-considers-rx-9060-xt-8gb-cancellation/

Good, cancel that shit

There's no reason for a 9060 XT to be 8gb 😭

Minimum 12gb

[opal gull]

Already had plans on getting a €7 stick today

[eternal reef]

is it worth it to buy a contact frame for am5

[south arrow]

You got thiss

[ebon marlin]

Not really

[opal gull]

2 gens ahead of me, nice

[ebon marlin]

Contact frame is useful only on LGA1700

[eternal reef]

alright

[south arrow]

But if you think it's neat ofc ❤️

[ebon marlin]

LGA1700 has a design manufacturing issue AM5 doesn't

[opal gull]

Also, from what I remember, the cpu is idling at 41C

[south arrow]

That's still fine

[solar moat]

wdym?

[solar moat]

ah the bend

[south arrow]

Pentium 3 can hit up to 43c scrolling

[ebon marlin]

Yeah

[south arrow]

40+c idle when dusty

[ebon marlin]

Bending causing inproper contact with the cooler

[solar moat]

at least they run way cooler

[ebon marlin]

I mean yeah cuz AM5 was made to run 95C

[solar moat]

am5 cpus like 7700x run at way higher temps then lets say 13600k at same powerdraw

[ebon marlin]

I know cuz AMD made the cpu's run at 95C 24/7

[solar moat]

and so did intel

[south arrow]

Core performance boost being disabled helps a good bit to reduce temps (similar to intels multicor enhancement via bio)

[solar moat]

amd unlike intel locks down mobo overclocking out of box

[south arrow]

Also setting the pbo to either limit thermally or depending upon the mode to eco levels 1,2,3

[solar moat]

DONT USE THTAT AUTO OC SHIT

[south arrow]

They definitely make it easier

[south arrow]

All core -20

[solar moat]

is that stable?

[south arrow]

Yeahhh buddy's

[ebon marlin]

I need to oc my 5800x3d but too lazy

Single core perf is lowkey weak

[solar moat]

its locked

[south arrow]

Haven't updated drivers yet but whoever did those time spy scores did some wizardry for best*

[ebon marlin]

Nah

[solar moat]

eclk?

[ebon marlin]

You can still tune it

[ebon marlin]

Can't remember but i just remember there was a method

[south arrow]

Having me beat by a whole 1k is nutz .... howwww hrmmm I could tighten ram and push cpu 200 maybe, re enable cpb for a test hrmm. Mission for a non sleep deprived day

[solar moat]

only thing you can do is offset VF curve ib a cpu where that dose not realy matter

[ebon marlin]

I was supposed to do this years ago

Never got around doing it

[solar moat]

if your going to spend time making faster DO RAM

[kindred halo]

Custom pump where the tubes all connect to a central section connected to a metal plate that heats your food up through boiling temps lmao

[ebon marlin]

I think Intel is better suited for that

Bigger surface area too so it's easier aswell

[solar moat]

amd R9 cpus if lap the IHS run very cool

[ebon marlin]

I just got a razer blade 15 wtf is their charging port

It's an usb-c port but overengineered with magnets and prongs

Freaky

[south arrow]

[eternal reef]

whats the best £800 card on the market right now? for some reason all the 7900xtx's are ridiculously expensive

is it just worth going for a 7900 xt instead or is there an nvidia option for better

[ebon marlin]

9070XT?

Also if ur looking at last gen products look for them at the used markets instead

[eternal reef]

my friend wont go used I don't think, but I'll have a look, might be able to convince him

[ebon marlin]

There's no difference in used vs brand new

In brand new you'll have a couple plastic peels

They can pre-order a 9070XT from overclockers for £649

Shipping in 1-2 weeks

[eternal reef]

I'll have a look

[ebon marlin]

Ebuyer has a white 9070XT in stock for 679 pounds

[eternal reef]

I am on pcpp I think It'll be his best option (mine too)

will 850w be fine for it?

[ebon marlin]

Yeah

It'll be plenty enough

[eternal reef]

I have about £400 for a cpu/mobo/cooler
what should I go with

7700x?

[brazen wind]

https://i.cubityfir.st/ms-teams_HpPI5LTyKM.png

my GPU rma arrived

[eternal reef]

Nice

[tame plaza]

Damn nice

[silver heron]

what is nuvoton nct6798D?

[ripe sierra]

Hey everyone, I have family is currently in the US for work reasons. and generally electronics in my country are quite a bit more expensive. are things already affected by the tariffs? is it still worth buying?
namely I'm looking to buy headphones. either sony or senheiser.

[ebon marlin]

Do they use/need wifi

[tame plaza]

If its still cheaper than in your country then makes sense to buy it regardless of tariffs pricing

[eternal reef]

ignore the mobo, just say about £250/300 for the cpu

He can prolly stretch for a cooler

[ebon marlin]

Do any Uk dealers do bundles

[tame plaza]

Scan do but its mostly just rrp pricing

And expensive bundles

[eternal reef]

Yeah, they are literally all rrp with like 10% markup

[tame plaza]

Gotta love this emote

[ripe sierra]

I looked at some stores and the prices seem to be up for the sony wh1000 xm4 for example. but I was wondering if anyone knew if that's the case everywhere before I scour a bunch of stores to make sure.

or maybe I'm just dumb and don't know how to check idk

[sinful merlin]

Hi all,

I'm looking for some advice.

Over the past few months, I've been experiencing unusually high CPU temperatures, even when playing low-requirement games.
Initially, I suspected an issue with my CPU cooler pump, so I submitted an RMA request. Corsair were brilliant and quickly sent me a replacement — however, this didn’t resolve the issue. My CPU continued spiking over 80°C and sometimes even hitting 99°C according to the NZXT monitor.

Next, I arranged a CPU replacement through Intel, as they agreed there could be a fault. I installed the new CPU today, but unfortunately, the problem persists. Right now, while just sitting in a Call of Duty lobby, my CPU is sitting at 70°C, and during gameplay it reaches 80–90°C, which seems unusually high.

At this point, the only remaining component I can think to check is the motherboard.

For reference, my CPU is an Intel i9-13900K.

Any help or suggestions would be hugely appreciated!

[south arrow]

Prices are super crazy rn for everyone. I'd give it a few weeks for our peeps to figure things out

[rigid fjord]

i run with 32gb ram, and windows doesn't go above 8gb on it's own

[south arrow]

I get trying to stimulate economys by promoting panic buying but like they got take it easy got businesses confused

[tame plaza]

Doesn’t that cpu run hot regardless of cooler? Try undervolting it

[rigid fjord]

you have to do the hack/bug and make one of those xbox's run linux

[south arrow]

Oh they all do fams splinter cell and a usb transfered linux load ❤️

[sinful merlin]

It could be worth a try for sure, it just started happened out of the blue and I didnt change anything

Happening*

[south arrow]

Had to backup all the eeproms and such and winscp to ftp in. Need to setup isnignia

[tame plaza]

Which corsair aio do you have btw?

[eternal reef]

9070xt + matx y/n?

[tame plaza]

I have the rx titan 360 and my 9800x3d reaches peaks of 85 c according to hardware monitor

During bo6

[ebon marlin]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hn8dL9

[south arrow]

Fatxplorer is ones friend for anyone looking to rev their old rig ❤️ beats the old chimploader hotswap of doom

[sinful merlin]

A nice little upgrade from corsair because mine wasnt in stock, let me get the model for you, one sec

[rigid fjord]

hehehe

[tame plaza]

Oh nice

[rigid fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/fV7wkf better mobo tbh

[ebon marlin]

Mine has a wifi option so it's better long term when you might not have ethernet available at that moment

[rigid fjord]

should accept a refund and get either an arctic aio orthermalright aio instead

[sinful merlin]

That would be nice but I dont think its the cause for my overheating

[rigid fjord]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dvz9ZJ wifi version instead, still a better mobo, and him being british, it should be easy getting ethernet setup tbh

[rigid fjord]

failing pump, failing fans, or poor mounting causes that

[ebon marlin]

I found an LG Oled C1 55" for 100€ just needs a motherboard replacement which is another 100€

[south arrow]

99%, unless the plastic was left on the mount (that's probs more frequent then 1% honestly maybe %10? It happens aloot xD)

[ebon marlin]

That TV seems to go for around 600€ that are in working conditions

I'd get it but idh anything to pick it up with

My car is also in another country

[sinful merlin]

So likely user error 🤣

[south arrow]

Aio can be trixie sometimes when learning

[sinful merlin]

Not sure what to do because I feel like ive tried everything

[brazen wind]

Isn't it way fucking overbuilt lol

[tame plaza]

Check these 2 threads

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/10lxhea/i913900kf_corsair_h150i_360mm_aio_are_these_temps/

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/zj4txq/13900k_temps_ok_just_got_it_with_a_new_corsair/

[brazen wind]

I've also been on the FE for like 2 years so who caresssss

I've literally never had my GPU get too hot haha

[south arrow]

The 4080 fe does pretty solid I wouldn't pay it much mind. I had 2 4080s fe that mined 24/7 at 250-300 core and clocks 1200win 2400 on lin

They stayed sub 70c around 64-67

They do get alil noisey sometimes but same as any blower

[rigid fjord]

the last one definitely is, the first 2 not so much

[brazen wind]

truthfully

I don't mod the bios on my card so I don't really care

"No zero rpm policy"

I'm looking at my GPU atm and the fan is not spinning.

[south arrow]

Bios flashing I've heard mixed things

[rigid fjord]

scrollwheel on a g502 = fidget spinner supreme

[brazen wind]

That has literally never happened to me in 10+ years

[south arrow]

It's pretty rare these days luckily

My gpu doesn't run the fan at idle either but the newer gens only turn on after x temp is reached and once upon boot

[brazen wind]

temp gpu can go back in one of the serveers downstairs

[rigid fjord]

tbf, with vbios it's best to have a saved backup of the original vbios incase it bricks

[south arrow]

Doesn't sound to shabby

Bios only updates within the bios environment outside of laptops I want to say

And doing nothing else is required

And a bad bios update won't affect the gpu but the motherboard I think

Or wait raukoo halp I'm tired xD

It's the mobo or cpu, and yeah it's 5am kids had me up since 3am I'm not a person rn

[rigid fjord]

bios's do, but vbios's can be done from the OS itself

[south arrow]

Oh they meant vbios

[brazen wind]

tfw I install GPU driver update

and my screens instantly black out and haven't come back on

I'll just give it a few minutes before I force reboot it lol

Nah - I didn't have the nvidia drivers installed lol

[south arrow]

If done through the app it should aways be ok even if interrupted these days right rauko? Or is the app still risky?

[brazen wind]

so I went to install Nvidia App + drivers

[south arrow]

Like if they used command to upgrade the vbios and then like turned off wifi or booted down that myte have an issue I'd think hrm

[brazen wind]

I didn't have anything installed other than the default windows drivers

[south arrow]

And did auto not custom right?

[brazen wind]

I did auto lol

[south arrow]

Gameready*

[brazen wind]

auto express game ready

[boreal vine]

I swear ali has the most random recommendations ever

[south arrow]

I'd give it a reboot should come back a black screen for a few seconds can happen

[brazen wind]

maybe technically, but nvidia control panel etc is great

[boreal vine]

@lethal bay you got your mouse yet

[frail topaz]

im a guy, ive never bought anything related to that and i only get skirts and lingerie, ive done 50+ orders of tech shit on aliexpres the algorith hates me

[south arrow]

Same brb

[brazen wind]

we good https://i.cubityfir.st/NVIDIA_App_25YTwYskLq.png

[boreal vine]

I mean, i guess it makes sense atleast for me? being a woman and into keyboard

[upper abyss]

ayo how many fans can i daisy chain?

[south arrow]

Nvm Mines actually tech today

[rigid fjord]

not usually no afaik, but i can't say for sure with nvidia cards

[boreal vine]

depends on their rating, but generally 4-5 max

[brazen wind]

like, sure, yes, maybe? but that's not helpful advice lol

[frail topaz]

mine too

[brazen wind]

You can

[upper abyss]

hmm okay

the p500c case fans got these Connectors idk if its daisy but they go into each other and theyre 4

[brazen wind]

but you don't have to, it's otherwise bundled

[boreal vine]

as long as the amperage doesn't go above 1am all together

[brazen wind]

I don't know why you're advocating for not installing drivers

Kind of asinine advice

[frail topaz]

i have a pic of shit aliexpress has recommended me before but its kinda nsfw so im not gonna send it

[upper abyss]

how would i know

[rigid fjord]

still risky if it ever gets interupted, good way to brick devices

[south arrow]

Right it'd be sketchy forsure

[boreal vine]

look at the back of the fan, usually would tell u how much they draw

[south arrow]

Heck I've even shutdown during a whole bios update luckily went straight back into the update even without the stick in. Just glad it didn't brick that was like my 2nd build xD

[west blade]

So nice

It's peam

[upper abyss]

.15 allegadly, what the hell

[rigid fjord]

rofl, i'm a dude, and despite what i've ordered hardware wise, let alone some tech stuff, it still shows me stuff that's nsfw when it comes to temu

[boreal vine]

then it's fine, it's going to draw .6 A

[tough bluff]

when upgrading from a 6700xt in the near future, choosing between 7900xtx and 9070xt drives me crazy, i don't know whether to prioritize fsr4, or more vram, usecase is gaming 1440p and content creation... What do yall think?

[boreal vine]

way under the 1A general limit for fan headers on most motherboards

[south arrow]

Rauko you know you want the silk g strings and hot pink glasses

[boreal vine]

worry about it when you get to it

[frail topaz]

yeah that what happens to me, it was showing me bikinis and shit lmaoo, and some other more questionable ones

[south arrow]

With with capacitors now 75% off

[boreal vine]

no point worrying about it now when you're not buying yet

[south arrow]

Gotta keep you on your toes xD

[boreal vine]

I think AliEX takes in your searches on other platforms

[rigid fjord]

wrong ones you're thinking of

[upper abyss]

one of the fan headers connectors are red for some reason, any idea why?

[boreal vine]

normally to indicate that it should be the fan header used by the CPU

[south arrow]

Maybe I do buy stuff for my lady sometimes, makes sense all the sites gather our info these days

[boreal vine]

ie the fans that goes in your cooler

[frail topaz]

@rigid fjord https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZXFqH what do we think?

[frail topaz]

yeah me too but its all keychains and stuff not BIKINIS

[south arrow]

Did cubity reboot and have that blackscreen fixed or rip cubity?

[rigid fjord]

it's decent but tbh, i'd get a 7600x and something like an idcooling a620se pro

[frail topaz]

7600x and 9600x here have a 20$ price difference

and thats the only sensible cooler i could have gotten

[south arrow]

It was as I left whew ggs

[upper abyss]

so i daisy chained them all, now i just need to plug one fan into the header right

[boreal vine]

you can save abit of money on b650 the put that savings on a better CPU

[frail topaz]

there are no non mATX B650's here 😔

[boreal vine]

I'd also swap out that PSU for something else, you can get RM850X for the same price with better components

[fallow yacht]

is your case atx?

[boreal vine]

hell for the same price you might even get the rm1000x

[frail topaz]

yup

[fallow yacht]

matx fits too

[south arrow]

Used rmx1000x is noicee

[frail topaz]

no i know but i dont want a matx mobo

i want my pcie lanes

yeah i know but i have other pcie expeansions

[fallow yacht]

oh

[frail topaz]

rm1000x is 300 and rm850x is 170

[south arrow]

Dammn macs

[brazen wind]

yknow what, installing Windows might give me a headache.
Maybe I should just hang out in the BIOS forever.

[boreal vine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mkq79C

optimized it for you

[south arrow]

Your amazon is rude

[frail topaz]

eva i would fucking love to more than you know

but im in Albania, there is no option here

[boreal vine]

OH right

I didn't know mb

[frail topaz]

i also wanted to get the same ram too yeah

[boreal vine]

what do you guys use to shop over there

[south arrow]

They got our boy on aussy prices

[frail topaz]

uhhhh https://shop.shpresa.al https://skroutz.gr https://you.gr

[boreal vine]

currency is lei right?

[frail topaz]

lol no, ALL

or EUR

[boreal vine]

@frail topaz https://www.skroutz.gr/s/50381574/Gigabyte-B650-Eagle-AX-Motherboard-ATX-me-AMD-AM5-Socket.html

motherboard for one

[south arrow]

The eagles not bad chunky lil heatsink

[frail topaz]

pffftt i shouldnt have put skroutz in there because most of the things in there are in Athens and they cant come here

by most things 98.78819%

[south cairn]

hey there , im a student who's getting fresh into college this fall , i need a laptop for my 4 years in this place and need to run linux as because why not , is the asus proart p16 a good choice? (the 120hz one)

[south arrow]

https://pcstore.al/product-category/hardware/power-supplies/

[upper abyss]

i just stuck something into a 3 and 4 pin

[boreal vine]

how about you.gr?

[frail topaz]

that one yes

[south arrow]

This store in your area mac? I'm browsing

[south cairn]

its a ryzen 9 ai hx chip (i really hate this name) , so its efficient asl and it also has like 64 gigs of ram

[frail topaz]

Yup

[frail topaz]

its not good its fucking amazing

[boreal vine]

@frail topaz https://www.you.gr/anavathmisi-diktyaka/anavathmisi/mitrikes-motherboards/mitriki-gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax

[frail topaz]

get warshipped lol

[south cairn]

aw

[frail topaz]

hmm intereseting

[south cairn]

its such a cool chip but they gave it a name like " 9 aI hX " ts pmo icl

[boreal vine]

basically just change your mobo psu , cooler and ram

[frail topaz]

amd fucked up tha naming but whatever

[south cairn]

true

[frail topaz]

mobo i dont mind changing ( as in i dont want to change it ), the pcie5 is nice because im willing to get a new drive, psu cooler and ram i dont know where to find

[south cairn]

so , if i place the custom order (without network adapter , storage or windows license) i can get a pretty good deal and linux support since i get to fit in my own hardware in places where drivers are usually faulty

[frail topaz]

how much of a good deal

[south cairn]

my vendor is saying 100 usd off , if i remove windows , 20 for the network adapter and 200 for the ssd , add it all up and i get this machine for (2000-320)=$1680

[frail topaz]

2000 bucks is NOT bad for amd newest laptop offerings and a rtx 4070

[south cairn]

5070*

[boreal vine]

@frail topaz https://www.you.gr/anavathmisi-diktyaka/anavathmisi/trofodotika-ypologisti/trofodotiko-psu-corsair-rm850-gold-fully-modular good price, but it's white

[south cairn]

and a 120 hz panel

[frail topaz]

oh yeah right

[south cairn]

i know right dawg

its just the nvidia gpu which is a tad bit of a struggle

but i can jsut disable that in the bios

[frail topaz]

WOAH OK

[frail topaz]

just go thru the struggle or install pop os

[south cairn]

or just bear with it since i am using arch btw

arch usually has good support with nvidia

[frail topaz]

its not worth disabling your gpu

[south cairn]

since its yk , arch

[south cairn]

its an rtx 5070 , it will suck up a lot of power and disabling it might help battery life?

[frail topaz]

itll only suck up battery life if youre activly using it

[frail topaz]

i want some different ram tho because its 6400@CL32

[boreal vine]

do you really want RGB ram?

[solar moat]

whats wrong ?

[frail topaz]

Pfft i dont care that much

[frail topaz]

for AMD 6000@CL30 is ideal

[solar moat]

no 6400 faster on 7000/9000 cpus

[frail topaz]

yeah but timings

[solar moat]

wdym?

[frail topaz]

the 6400 ram is cl32

[solar moat]

yes better

[frail topaz]

lower timing is better, you do know that right?

[solar moat]

you cant do math can you

timing is delay in clocks

meaning you doing 3ghz and it takes 30 clock that 10ns vs 3.2ghz at 32 clocks that 10ns

[boreal vine]

and also causes issues with boot

[solar moat]

ut higher mhz is just faster

[solar moat]

fair

[south cairn]

what about hardware accelaration

i wont be actively using it

[frail topaz]

oh shit ugh

[south cairn]

but wont it be noticeable

[boreal vine]

it's fine on intel but on 7k it can cause issue, it's safer to go with 6000mhz cl30 for that reason as it's easier to run than 6400 cl32

[south cairn]

dont ryzen cpus only support ddr5 till 5600mt/s?

[solar moat]

yes

[south cairn]

any more than that and you might get stabillity issues

aaaa i see

[solar moat]

5200 for 7000/8000 and 5600 for 9000

[solar moat]

you using xmp?

[south cairn]

nah

[solar moat]

wow jedec user nice

[south cairn]

nah , im just too lazy to set it up or risk damaging anything

[true stirrup]

6000MT/s cl30 is the sweetspot rn

[boreal vine]

for jdec / stock yes

for XMP no, it can go higher

[south cairn]

how do the AI chips hit like 7650mt/s if the ryzen chips themselves cant hit more than 5600mt/s

[south cairn]

i mean sure its onboard memory but still

[true stirrup]

you can hit way more than 5600MT/s

[south cairn]

on stock?

[solar moat]

no

[boreal vine]

because it's overclocked

[south cairn]

is that not bad for long term stabillity or does asus know what they are doing

[true stirrup]

anything over 6000MT/s can cause issues but 6000MT/s is still the sweetspot

[south cairn]

or does asus know what they are doing (planned obscelence)

[solar moat]

amd was marketing ddr5 8000 suprot on there x870 now that was a meme

[boreal vine]

support is not a hard limit, it's what it can officially support with XMP / Expo

[south cairn]

ah

i see

[true stirrup]

XMP/EXPO is completely safe

[boreal vine]

No, it's not bad for long term stability, does asus know what they're doing? probably

[south cairn]

wait so i can overclock my laptop's ram and possibly increase its megatransfers? (im on a 4th gen ryzen currently)

[solar moat]

higher mhz offen faster just 6000 is highest speed that most run and if you just set 6000 its 3:3:2

[south cairn]

its currently at 3200mt/s

[solar moat]

laptop offen locked down hard

[south cairn]

ah that sucks

[true stirrup]

yes you can if the laptop allows it but it's a very lengthy process

it took me hours to get my 6800MT/s cl38 overclock stable

[south cairn]

its an msi laptop , probably thrown somewhere in their hidden bios

[boreal vine]

set what to 3:3:2?

[solar moat]

M:U:F

[south cairn]

still shouldnt risk it tho