#virtual-reality

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gloomy crater
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If it were a VR hardware defect it would most likely happen in games other than half life alyx, which means it's most likely a PC hardware defect if anything. Also, it's not just a grey or orange screen. It's screen effects that appear elsewhere in the game. The orange effect happens when you pass your head through environment objects, and the grey overlay happens when you die. I just have no idea why these whole-screen overlay effects are happening for no reason mid gunfight and while walking around doing random unrelated stuff thereby giving me motion sickness, and also crashing steamvr on a few occasions. In literally any other game, I can sit in that same chair or stand up doing literally anything else and have no issues, but something about my exact combination of hardware doesn't like half life alyx.

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I've only had this card for a week so I really hope it's not the cause. I don't know for sure if my GPU is the issue, but I will most definitely be keeping it in the back of my mind during testing.

olive zinc
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oh god

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$29 shipping?

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good lord

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I just want some Rx inserts that aren't literally coming up to close to half the cost of the VR system

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Seems like US just gets kinda fucked on VR stuff

gloomy crater
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Yeah the VROptician lenses were kind of a hard pill to swallow for me when alternatives that were 40% of the total price and would also be there in mere days existed, but the fact that I got my index for $650 made it easier to accept the cost and wait time for the higher quality lenses

olive zinc
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I see

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My Rx is ~1.5 - 2 years old, so I'll order it once I can get a new test done

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Shipping is also kinda messy, 4-5 weeks of production then however many weeks of shipping

gloomy crater
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I don't really know what to do now. I got this new VR hardware but out of the five games that I have, one of them is currently bugged, two of them are only fun for a few minutes, one requires friends to be fun, and one makes me tired playing. I would buy new games but I expended my budget acquiring the hardware needed to play the games, so I have a setup but not enough games to play

thick nest
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lmao yeah

spark pawn
haughty thistle
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To be totally honest: I don't care about ranking xD
I play Beat Saber for the fun of it, not for the competitiveness...

haughty thistle
thick nest
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@pastel echo GOT IT LETS GOOOO

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i've been playing for 3 hours

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one word can describe it

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AMAZING

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tracking quality refresh rate game library hand tracking passthrough boundries and comfort

pastel echo
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My favorite wireless experience so far has been echoVR

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Game was destined to be on a standalone device

olive zinc
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Whenever someone mentions Echo VR I keep thinking they mean ECHO

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/551770/ECHO/

Steam
ECHO

ECHO is a Third-Person Science Fiction Adventure.After a century in stasis the girl En arrives at her destination: A Palace out of legend, a marvel of the old civilization eons gone, still awaiting its first human occupants. Out here, using forgotten technologies, she hopes to bring back a life that shouldn’t have been lost. But nothing could pr...

Price

$24.99

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1119

Metacritic

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thick nest
sullen linden
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Morally yes its wrong but honestly doesnt mean you are not in the market of owning it.

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Why not make your own demo.

pastel echo
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Not saying I do this but if I did this I would do this

gloomy crater
# sullen linden Just pirate them, Mainly single player ones and see if you want to get the full ...

I do something similar. I've built all of the gaming PCs for all my family members under the condition that they let me log onto their accounts and test drive any games they may have that I might wanna buy. By doing this, I've managed to test out like half a dozen games just bc my family members had those titles. I even let one of them log onto my account to test out devil may cry 5 to keep it fair, but I figure that having at least one account with an actual copy of the game is better than pirating that game.

pastel echo
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Weird

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I just have all my friends gameshare to my machine

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and then I try and actively play my friends games

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Why not just have them to agree to gameshare with you?

gloomy crater
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bc I can't be bothered to get everyone onto the steamguard family thing

pastel echo
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Literally just log in on your computer

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It takes all of 5 minutes

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But you do you

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Imma enjoy my 1000 games I don't have to buy

sullen linden
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Yeah honestly nintendo games are kinda lacking in alot of cases when it comes to side content

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most times they either want you to play it again or look for useless collectables

pale orbit
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsMqCVeGFi0Nctpn9fimLPA

YouTube
EyeDoctorVR

In this channel, we will discuss the health of the eye after a few hours of gaming. How does VR affect the health of the eyes? What have you experienced which made you uncomfortable? Or made you comfortable? Which games do you want me to try?How can we reduce the stress on our eyes? How can we make the VR gaming experience more enjoyable? Please...

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helpful videos, actual eye doc talking about vr

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videos on stuff like prism lenses if you have a large ipd that a headset doesn't reach to allow you to use them etc.

crisp nymph
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Emmmmmm

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It's been a hour, and I still haven't been able to get the quest 2 working

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The wifi just won't connect

harsh niche
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did you try using the app to connect the quest to the wifi

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that way you can also share passwords

crisp nymph
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I did, it just doesn't shows any wifi connections at all

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Things I've tried:
Resetting the quest, disabling mesh on the router, connect through the Oculus app.

pastel echo
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"I just get motion sick my ass" haha maybe you can get oculus to RMA it though

crisp nymph
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:/

tropic jay
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For 180€

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Barely used

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Should I get it

pale orbit
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with all that redlettermedia cash flowing in, go for it rich

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iirc early WMR had decent resolution but so so tracking. not sure if 180 euros is worth it

haughty thistle
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If the lenses are good, I guess it's decent. For 180€ you probably won't find a CV1, OG Vive or Rift S. If you're on a heavy budget it's probably the best you'll find...

thick nest
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anybody up to play

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vr

dull tide
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at some point I hope we get a viable option for some sort of Parsec/moonlight/gamestreaming VR>

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The room with the computer isnt always the best room to play VR in.

haughty thistle
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Well, you can already play VR with the Quest on a PC that isn't even in your own house thanks to VD, but Latency is a big deal breaker there. The Internet just isn't built for ultra low latency applications

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People did use VD on their Shadow PC, but from what I've heard you can pretty much forget playing Beat Saber thanks to the latency. And that's already a cloud gaming system whose whole stig is to be as low latency as possible with a VM on a dedicated Server close to your home

gloomy crater
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So I've seen this interesting setup with a sort of gunstock that the vive wands can clip into. It looks much more comfortable than just holding up my hands in fps VR games. I just wish there were one that works with the knuckles. I've been contemplating buying a set of vive wants to use in a setup like that, and when I'm not playing FPS games I can duct tape the extra vive wands to my feet and use them as FBT trackers

gentle coral
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I hope I can try their Forcetube at some point once I start doing hardware review content again. I just have been very busy outside of VR and not had time to publish any VR content in quite a while.

I haven't even published my Reverb G2 review yet.

gloomy crater
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Huh. I took a look at the Magtube, it looks interesting but is quite the investment from what I can see. I would prefer to test it out before dropping close to $150 on a VR gunstock since some people report that having a stock like this hinders fast paced play, but I guess I'll have to decide once I get back int VR FPS after being gone for so long

gentle coral
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If you play competitive multiplayer shooters in VR i think it is worth looking into. There are much cheaper DIY options if you just order 3D printed parts and build one yourself.

cerulean bay
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i am lokiing for a good headset to use with an i5 9600k and a 3060ti

flat pawn
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you'd be safe looking for any good headset then

gloomy crater
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I made a post about how I'm looking for help, because HLA is pretty much unplayable, on the forums and nobody responded to it. F

flat pawn
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yes

haughty thistle
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The HP Reverb G2 for example needs a GPU with probably at least 14GiB of VRAM to run it at 100% resolution

harsh niche
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they have gotten higher resolution and to run it at it's fullest potential (max res max refresh) you would need a better pc than you would have for the rift cv1

pastel echo
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No okay I'm just stupid

haughty thistle
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The Quest and Quest 2 need a powerful CPU, preferably with 8 cores or more, to power the Video encoding

pastel echo
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my brain said headset = audio

haughty thistle
pastel echo
haughty thistle
pastel echo
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I'm used to people saying HMD

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which to be honest I don't know why people say that either, terminology and jargon are not my strong suits

haughty thistle
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I do prefer saying HMD as it's more descriptive of what we're talking about. But I know one too many people that just say "Headset"

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The technical definition for "Headset" is an electronic device that combines 2 or more devices in one.
So it can be just a pair of headphones with a microphone or an HMD with a built-in mic or headphones

pastel echo
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yeah looking at it in context I totally get it, I think I was getting a massage at the time I said that and just derped on what channel I was in. I fully understand why PC specs matter for a VR headset lol

haughty thistle
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By this definition, the first Gen WMR HMDs aren't really headsets btw as they only contain the display and tracking part, which both kinda belong together and can't really be used individually

pastel echo
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What does HMD mean?

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I googled it and after getting the response I did I've given up on googling it

haughty thistle
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HMD = Head mounted display

pastel echo
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sicko mode

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dare you to google what does HMD mean

haughty thistle
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(cropped out the Urban dictionary one for obvious reasons)

harsh niche
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tempted to look it up now

pastel echo
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look up "what does HMD mean" for experience I had

haughty thistle
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There's more to that story then just Urban dictionary. Thanks for the info... Internet...

pastel echo
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Google completely gooned my existence

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it's hard to come back from that

haughty thistle
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Understandably so

pastel echo
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I wish google had jokes, like if you googled "How do I pass my test" it just said in bold letters like that "study more nerd"

haughty thistle
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That's why I never go to Urban dictionary and instead search for "TERM meaning". Less to type and often gives me the right result immediately

haughty thistle
pastel echo
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Yeah but I wish google tooks it's ever growing complete understanding of people's lives

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to just make fun of them here and there

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not always

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but just enough to remind people

haughty thistle
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Well... The Assistent likes to roast at times. Just ask the Google Assistant about Siri

harsh niche
pastel echo
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Like what if it did this

haughty thistle
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Those kinda things are still pretty hard for AI to understand. They'd either have to be hard coded by a human, or they wouldn't really work

pastel echo
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Facebook shown an AI can develop a pretty solid understanding of keywords using user data

haughty thistle
pastel echo
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lol

flat pawn
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I had a mention in this channel?

pastel echo
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Not anymore

flat pawn
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what was it?

pastel echo
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Some guy confused headset VR with headset audio haha not sure who though 😅

sullen linden
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would I see some stability when switching to 6 to 8 cores

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im using a 1650

haughty thistle
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I think the 1650 is probably the more limiting factor in your case

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6 cores are fine for Quest Link, but 8 cores can result in better game performance on games that use lots of cores

sullen linden
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what's the oculus quest 2 like? Im getting it soon

flat pawn
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what do you mean

sullen linden
flat pawn
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yes

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a lot of things depend on how you're trying to use it though

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or what your budget is

sullen linden
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I wanna use it both standalone and pcvr

flat pawn
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then what other choices do you have lol

sullen linden
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i guess lol

flat pawn
sullen linden
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I just wanna be able to play star wars at my mates house

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then come home to some pavlov

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ugm

flat pawn
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yeah you'll be set for that

sullen linden
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sweet

flat pawn
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you have a halfway decent computer, yeah?

sullen linden
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3700x and a 2070 super

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i guess its decent #=

flat pawn
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yeah that'll definitely get the job done

odd pivot
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Attack on Titan Vr is such a great concept, some people are trying to pull it off

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And some are succeeding

gloomy crater
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I've heard that thing about certain PC requirements for HMDs but I've found those requirements spotty at best. I only have experience with certain headsets but I've been able to run both a quest and quest 2 on any combination of a 1600af, 3600, gtx 1080, or 5700xt as well as running an index on a 4gb RX550. Sometimes hardware you wouldn't think can run VR actually can, and when it does it's surprising

flat pawn
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I was running VR fine on an i7 4771 and 1080Ti before

green crypt
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yeah but it depends on what games you want to play specs are not so big of of mess if you know the games but a lot of hardware can run it if not well or okay but not in all games

odd pivot
green crypt
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the main thing is if you want to play vrc you need a fast single core cpu 16gb of ram and an gpu like a 1070 or higher other games it's different tho

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i would say 1060 6gb is the lowest but you want more then 3gb for sure

flat pawn
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lol vrc is going to lag no matter what you throw at it

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the ultimate benchmark

odd pivot
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It couldn’t run some games but it did fine with the games it could

green crypt
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not at all i have been in vrc with 80 people in a world still had okay fps you can get a lot if you optimize

odd pivot
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Terrible optimization

green crypt
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the main things is in vrchat most people lagg becouse they use unoptimized moddels

gloomy crater
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Vrchat just got a beta update that fixes some optimization issues. Up to 37% more fps in certain worlds than the live version

flat pawn
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I have a 5800x and 6800xt and I can still find a way to lag

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probably just shit worlds though

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but it doesn't even feel that different compared to before the new pc

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same shit worlds though

green crypt
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the thing is the optimazation is on the avatars makers 99% of the time and worlds don't lag that much coming from a world creator

flat pawn
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do you know why a world would lag more as time goes on, same amount of people

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and reloading the world fixing lag, same amount of people

green crypt
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can be becouse your cache is full or becouse you need to do garbage collection that you can run by opening a menu twice

flat pawn
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what's this second thing?

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garbage collection?

green crypt
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garbage collection is clearing up memory that is in use that isn't being used

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like if you cange moddel the data stays in the vram and doing garbage collection clears it

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it's also clears your normal ram of old moddels that have left and other things that changed

flat pawn
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are you talking about hitting the button to clear cache?

green crypt
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garbage collection isn't cache it's different then cache as it clears itself when changing worlds or when opening the menu twice in rapid success

flat pawn
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oh you literally mean just opening the menu twice quickly

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the floating on in the hand or the big panel that only appears if you select worlds/social/etc?

green crypt
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yeah the world or social tab does it

flat pawn
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alright

haughty thistle
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As others mentioned here, VRC performance is mostly reliant on the optimisation of the worlds and the avatars. Most creators don't even bother with optimisation, because it's a very time consuming process

flat pawn
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can't wait to take out the garbage

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seems to hit everyone at the same time

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everyone slowly lags more and if you reload the world you're fine again for a while

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or you could wait it out

green crypt
haughty thistle
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But it's not just that. The dynamic bone scripts that you find on pretty much ever avatar are really bad for performance as they only run on a single CPU core and on your typical avatar you go so many that that can already be a bottleneck.
Easiest way of getting tons more FPS in VRC: just turn on the dynamic bone limiter and crank it to show almost no dynamic bones. Presto!

green crypt
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also on amd you need to limit it to one ccx to get more fps

haughty thistle
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Just do note however that dynamic bones make avatars look alive, rather then just plastic dolls. So just be aware of that

green crypt
flat pawn
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amd drivers too?

green crypt
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sadly no but you can see if things overlap as some things do overlap but can have a slightly different name

haughty thistle
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Yeah, keep in mind that those Windows optimisations will be beneficial for VR performance, but can really hurt your flat game performance. Also: WMR already does most of these Windows optimisations for you when WMR is active

flat pawn
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the only game I can lag in right now is vrchat so

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I'm at least fine for now

haughty thistle
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I actually noticed slightly better performance in heavy hitting Wall maps in Beat Saber on my Reverb G2 over my Index. I investigated that and yeah, WMR does have better VR performance then native SteamVR and Oculus headsets

green crypt
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also a thing you can do is make sure that your avatar doesn't have a red cicle in the avatar stats for sure not red with and ! as those are bad for fps

flat pawn
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if it ain't red, it ain't fun

haughty thistle
flat pawn
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vrc has the bar set real real low for that

haughty thistle
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Or it can be triggered by dynamic bones. Even if you have them disabled on your end, the avatar will still show up red

green crypt
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well yeah but it's just a good thing to check as most things have too much materials and there is a real problem

haughty thistle
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I'm at least glad people slowly start realising that the performance is mostly not VRC's fault but actually the fault of creators, as CVR and Neos shows similar performance issues as VRC with similar avatars and worlds

green crypt
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yeah but the thing is there are some people that keep blaming vrc when they use the most unoptimized moddels and are in worlds with only really bad moddels

flat pawn
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some things might just make the avatar take longer to load but not impact frames right?

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like audio sources?

haughty thistle
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3D audio sources do need calculations still

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And most audio sources in VRC are 3D audio sources

flat pawn
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only when they're enabled right

haughty thistle
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Yep, only when enabled

flat pawn
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lol except for the people who forget to slide it to 3d

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it is 2d by default

green crypt
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well yeah audio is not the worst thing but materials are the worst

flat pawn
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nothing like hearing a baby crying from seemingly nowhere

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followed by a slapping sound

haughty thistle
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In VRC Spacial audio sources are recommended to be used, and they are 3D by default. Even if the Unity audio source is set to be 2D

flat pawn
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global audio is a hide from me

green crypt
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as every material fills up vram and you should never use 8k textures 4k on a moddel is good if only 1 material but still 2k is the sweet spot

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on my moddels i use 4k atlasses but i use them as 2k as that is the best performance for the best looks

flat pawn
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yeah every material is a new gpu draw call

haughty thistle
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Well... with the release of the G2, 8k textures might be useful to make the textures not look all blocky on desktop and the G2

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Besides crunch compression is a thing that runs in the GPU. It reduces file sizes dramatically (even in VRAM) and don't impact performance

green crypt
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8k is still a lot 4k tho you can see on the g2 or 8k screens

haughty thistle
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I do notice a difference between 8k and 4k textures on the G2 and my 1440p destop monitor tho

green crypt
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also depends how big the mesh is it's on tho 8k in worlds can be needed but not on avatars

haughty thistle
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I'm mostly familiar with Nanachis (relatively small avatars), and that's where I did notice the difference

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Not so much on desktop as in the G2, but it was there

green crypt
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yeah there is for sure a difference but it's just a problem if you are with a lot of people and most people don't have enough vram for vrchat

haughty thistle
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Although that avatar does use a single 4k texture for the entire avatar by default (minus the hair, which is a seperate mesh and texture)

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Like I said, crunch compression is a thing, it runs on the GPU, reduces the VRAM requirements and doesn't impact performance much

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The only reason people don't use it is because at Quality values of less then 90 it can add compression artefacts and people are lazy... Without crunch compression all textures are loaded uncompressed and that's obviously a memory hog

green crypt
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yeah i just always optimize hard so i can run with 80 people in one world and get at least 35 fps

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80 people is a lot so there are a lot of needs to be as optimized as possible

flat pawn
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where is the setting for disabling the feature that lowers fps in halves?

haughty thistle
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I optimize where I can. since I don't know much blender I only use it for decimation and conversion of additional models like hair or accessories. Other then that, my avatar bases are bone-stock xD

flat pawn
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I jump between 40 and 80 frames, no inbetween

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material combiner plugin for blender is good if you don't have it already

haughty thistle
flat pawn
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anything that makes sense to combine

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right, I forgot what it was called

haughty thistle
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I personally don't like how the motion smoothing looks so I just turn it off. Oculus however likes to just turn it on again everytime I do decide on grabbing my CV1...

flat pawn
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hey cb, have you been to the meroom before and seen the wall you can draw on there?

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or dragonos

haughty thistle
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I have been to MeRoom

flat pawn
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the reason I ask is because I wanted to see if you knew anything about how that wall works

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I wanted to make a functioning clipboard for an avatar I'm making

haughty thistle
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Oof... no idea tbh

flat pawn
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making it so that a pen colliding with the clipboard causes the clipboard to change color only at the point of collision

haughty thistle
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It might do something with particle collision, but that's my best guess...

flat pawn
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not sure if it's possible on an avatar where they disable scripting

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other idea would be a toggle that causes trail renderer trails to follow an object

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so just draw near the clipboard and toggle it on, drag the clipboard around

haughty thistle
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I've seen some particle collision effects done on avatars (where they have like a touch sensitive keyboard to type as a mute in VR). But no idea on how exactly that works

flat pawn
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don't think that's possible either though lol

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oh yeah, I have seen a few collision things on avatars

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they are cool

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terribly complicated though

green crypt
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i would say it's posbible for sure dream to make that it's a particle that can only collide with the clipboard

flat pawn
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am I going to need a big pixel grid of colliders on the clipboard itself in order to emulate drawing

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if my pen shoots some short ranged "particles" to draw on it with

green crypt
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but yeah it's gonna be complicated also can be done with some shader magic pretty sure

flat pawn
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it's kinda lower on my list of priorities to figure out for now

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but these ideas definitely help

green crypt
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i do more world things then avatar tho if you would make it i would say if it's particle based use av3.0

flat pawn
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next thing I want to figure out is how to 2 hand objects

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I always use 3.0

green crypt
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yeah that is good also av3 is better now as more paremeters work

flat pawn
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yeah, did you see the new update

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for 128 bits worth of parameters

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and persistent parameters between world/avatar switches

green crypt
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i was on the open beta testing it this last weekend so yeah

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saw the patch notes a few times too much as a lot of servers i'm in also have the patch notes in there

flat pawn
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sick

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sorry to force you to read them again lol

green crypt
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at least there weren't any mayor bugs but there could be a few small bugs but idk if they were really bugs

flat pawn
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do you think there's any performance to be gained by switching all my int parameters that only use 0 or 1 states over to bool?

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or would that just make more space for parameters

green crypt
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would give a bit more performance pretty sure i would do if if you want the more space plus a small amount less compute

flat pawn
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makes sense

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probably would be negligible for what I have in mind

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the most complicated thing only has maybe 3 or 4 different ones that could be bool

green crypt
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if you want to make it public to other people i would recomend changing it if it's only you you can do it when you need more parameters but if you want the small gain sure

flat pawn
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they are public

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might as well then

sweet halo
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I have come to the conclusion that this is probably not going happen I have waited about 2 months

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This was originally in Nov 28 2020

pastel echo
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I remember that message

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wow time flies

gentle coral
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Holy moly its been that long.

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I really wish LTT did more VR content, as they could do much deeper analysis of many VR issues due to the number of computers they can test on, and number of people who can give input on comfort, ergonomics, and usability.

pastel echo
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Maybe it's just me but sometimes VR content just feels low key cringe

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maybe they are worried about being low key cringe

zinc timber
gray reef
haughty thistle
pastel echo
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It wasn't a review

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it was coverage

haughty thistle
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Still...
I'd prefer if channels like LTT would do better in terms of VR content then just doing a sponsored video and only talk about the points given to them by said sponsor... That's at least how all recent LTT VR coverage seemed to me

pastel echo
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I'm sticking with my theory that it's because VR content is low key cringe

sour portal
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Yo question

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Is 130€ a good deal for a used Rift CV1?

pastel echo
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If everything is working good yes

green crypt
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just the problem is if it breaks you need to buy a different hmd but depends on how much it was used how long it will last

pale orbit
sullen linden
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Vibrating Displays

flint monolith
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time to overpay triple the price for a brand name am i right

haughty thistle
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I mean... HTC's makrup already is pretty high, but what Apple seems to be planning there... Oh boy that's gonna be interesting... (possibly XTAL/Varjo level pricing?)

pastel echo
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Meh apple tech always trickle down when they do manage to do something new

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I'd be interested to see if their XR solutions have full ecosystem integration though

fathom sigil
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Best case companies copy apple, worst case people avoid what apple do (apple pipin 😂😂)

flat pawn
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has anyone here ever upgraded hmd from index to pimax?

olive zinc
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I've been bamboozled

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My previous vision Rx said my pupil distance is 66mm

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My new Rx says 61mm

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The fuck is it

flat pawn
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you have narrowed

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by a lot

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or maybe you shouldn't trust either and just measure it yourself

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grab your favorite ruler and a mirror

olive zinc
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Good plan

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Unfortunately all I have nearby is a measuring tape and all it has is inches

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Not quite sure on how accurate inches to mm would be

lofty minnow
sullen linden
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Do I buy the quest 2 or is it not worth it?

flat pawn
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didn't you ask this not too long ago

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as long as you don't care about its downsides then it's definitely great for the price

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battery, comfort, facebook, etc

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some of those things are non-issues for people and deal breakers for others

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choice is yours

pale orbit
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make sure your IPD range fits it as well

sullen linden
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battery is fine, i dont think id use it for more than 3 hours at a time..

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i didnt think comfort was an issue

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and facebook is fine

pale orbit
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be aware if you are on setting 3 for ipd on it you will apparently see the outside edges of the screen and your fov is cut down quite a bit

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a deal breaker for some who returned it after buying it

sullen linden
#

how do i know which setting I need

pale orbit
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you need to measure your ipd

sullen linden
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are there apps for it

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what are the different settings

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I measured it on an app

pastel echo
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58-63-68

sullen linden
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okay,im 60.9

pastel echo
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You can get it to stick in-between settings though

sullen linden
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so i should be fine right

pale orbit
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yup

pastel echo
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So you could probably get it to stick between setting 1 and 2 but you'd have to try it first

sullen linden
#

sweet

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what about comfort? is it not a comfortable headset?

pastel echo
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Also battery and comfort aren't a big deal in my experience

sullen linden
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isnt there like a "pro head strap" or something

pastel echo
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The default strap puts more pressure on your forehead but you can solve this with a battery and some velcro straps

pale orbit
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replacing the stock strap sounds like something you basically have to do unless you only use it for short periods

pastel echo
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If you buy the elite strap it's almost no issues

pale orbit
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same with some decent headphones

sullen linden
#

can i connect airpods to it?

pastel echo
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Whelm is exaggerating the default audio is great

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Also no airpods you can use Aux cable and aux cable accessories

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Bluetooth only gonna fly with adapters

sullen linden
#

okay, i have some good audiotechnica headphones but i can always find some old earphones

pastel echo
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Again the default audio is great though only issue is it's open but dude like me prefers that and only grabs headphones sometimes

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Also I've used the default strap for hours at a time, you'll know if you're someone who NEEDs to replace it but also velcro strap a battery to the back makes it hella comfy

sullen linden
#

ahhh okay.. the reason I want a quest over a rift is to play games like star wars and beat sabre at friends houses and then games like pavlov and stuff in my room

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am i right to want it for that?

pastel echo
#

Compared to the rift S the Quest 2 is the way to go

sullen linden
#

sweet. They were the only 2 in my price range and vader immortal looks so sweet

pastel echo
#

Check into the power your USB ports provide though

sullen linden
#

how do I check that?

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my motherboard has USB-C, do i need that?

pastel echo
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It can die even while doing PCVR if you don't have a power injector or you have low power ports

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Oh it's probably gonna be okay but just look up your mothervoard specs

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The USB-C I mean probably gonna be okay

sullen linden
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"USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps): 2x Type-A (Chipset)USB 3.1 Gen 1 (5Gbps): 3x Type-A + 1x Type-C (CPU)USB 2.0: 2x Type-A (Chipset)"

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is that powerful enough?

flat pawn
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power injector?

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prevents battery drain during pcvr?

pastel echo
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There are USB power injectors that supply power to the line outside of what the usb port itself provides @flat pawn

sullen linden
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what is "side quest"

flat pawn
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Sounds comfy

pastel echo
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It's a non oculus tool and also app store

sullen linden
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is it against the tos

pastel echo
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No

sullen linden
#

what about sideloading games to the quest?

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ive seen people do that

pastel echo
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It's just a tool that allows you to side load which is the act of loading non oculus items onto the quest

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As long as the games you are sideloading aren't pirated it is okay

sullen linden
#

so like steam games

pastel echo
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No

sullen linden
#

can i put pavlov on it?

pastel echo
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Quest games that aren't on oculus store, not PC games

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There is a Quest version of Pavlov called Pavlov Shack that requires side quest yes

pastel echo
sullen linden
#

sweet. Have you had any experience with fps in vr?

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is it any fun? like shooting and reloading and aiming and stuff

pastel echo
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I have played a bit on onward and pavlov on my rift cv1 and quest

sullen linden
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ahh cool

pastel echo
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Ummm yeah Id say its fun depends what you're going for

sullen linden
#

how do you find the comfort of your quest?

pastel echo
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It can put a too much pressure on the forehead if you don't adjust it right

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But when I strap my battery to the back no real issues

sullen linden
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can you not make it slacker?

pastel echo
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I don't use the elite strap because I like to lay down with my headset on and the elite strap is hard

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My friend uses the elite strap and he says it's a perfect experience and he has no issues

sullen linden
#

does it have a built in microphone? or can you buy ones that plug into it

pastel echo
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The slack isn't so much the issue as is finding a way to secure it to your head and making it tight enough to do that, like I said it can be done just takes more work

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It has a default microphone and I don't know what happens if you plug one in

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I have a dedicated headset that doesn't have a mic

sullen linden
#

do you use proper headphones? would my audiotechnicas work alright?

pastel echo
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Define proper headphones

sullen linden
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i have these

pastel echo
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If they have an aux cable they will work

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The end

sullen linden
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yeah they do

pastel echo
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Is the aux cable on the right or left side?

sullen linden
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left side

pastel echo
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Even bettwe

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The aux port is on the left side

sullen linden
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ahh sweet

pastel echo
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So you could get away with like an 8 inch cable and be chilling even harder

sullen linden
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i think my cable is like 10ft

pastel echo
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It's not swappable?

sullen linden
#

no

pastel echo
#

That's an oof moment

sullen linden
#

i could fold it up and put it on the side, like with some elastic

pastel echo
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Just get velcro straps and or cable ties

sullen linden
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yeah, thats what I was thinking

pastel echo
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You can see the cable tie on the side of mine here in this picture

sullen linden
#

whats on the back?

pastel echo
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Battery pack

sullen linden
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is this not any good?

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its the pro strap with a battery pack

pastel echo
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It is to my understanding but it only doubles the battery life and you have to get the carrying case as well

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I have my own carrying case

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My own larger battery pack

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And as I said I'm not that interested in the elite strap because I like to lay down with my headset on occasion

sullen linden
#

how did you attach your battery pack to the strap?

pastel echo
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You can see the velcro straps

sullen linden
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ahh yes, i see now

pastel echo
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Here's another picture

sullen linden
#

does it not get hot whilst you're led down?

pastel echo
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Uh does what get hot?

sullen linden
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the battery pack, my bad

pastel echo
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Oh well when I'm laying down it's in vertical mode or next to me so no not really

sullen linden
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ohh okay

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can you watch films in it/

pastel echo
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Yeah, you can use app like big screen to cast your monitor or use youtube VR natively

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I think netflix has an app and maybe others too

sullen linden
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ahh cool!

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how do the graphics differ between standalone and pcvr? are they worse or the same?

pastel echo
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Uhhhh

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Tough one depends on your hardware and game but generally the PCVR has more artifacting if anything

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But not overall worse graphics

sullen linden
#

what sort of specs are we looking at to run games like half life alyx in high settings?

pastel echo
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When on stand alone stuff is usually not as high end as the PCVR version would be though, so in the end about equal

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I have no idea but I have a 2070-MaxP laptop and it runs everything fine

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So a 2060 could probably do that with no major issue

sullen linden
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ahh okay, im running a 3700x and a 2070 super

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so I should be fine right?

pastel echo
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You'll be just fine

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Also use the USB-C port on your graphics card

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It'll easily supply enough power

sullen linden
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I dont believe I have a USB C on my graphics card

pastel echo
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Damn I thought the supers had em too oh well

sullen linden
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thats the side of mine

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could i use the one on my mobo?

pastel echo
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Yeah

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I just thought the 2070 Super had the virtual link port which was an epic port

sullen linden
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I think most do but this was the only one in stock at the time

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i got it just before the release of the 30 series lol

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im glad I didnt take peoples advice to wait

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its been like 6 months since i built my pc and you still cant get a 30 series lol

gloomy crater
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If I still had my quest I would probably wanna buy the version of the card I want that comes with a USBC port, but since I use an index now, I think I'm gonna try and go for the version that replaces it with another regular port

lofty minnow
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oop wrong channel sorry

low crater
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is arizona sunshine any good?

inner oak
#

who trying to help me GET a new vr game

pastel echo
inner oak
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what do u mean its fully clear

harsh niche
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obviously not

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do you mean does anybody feel like taking the time out of their day to help you find a vr game?

inner oak
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im poor and have like 2 games for my vr need help GETTING one

stark peak
#

Would a GTX 950 run most vr games?

nimble lichen
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hardly

stark peak
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oh ok

nimble lichen
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maybe some of them

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not on highest resolution

stark peak
#

Got it

umbral garden
worldly lily
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my quest 2 when i turn it on the screen is all grey but turned on i can see the logo on startup but its all grey after that i dont see my boundary

sullen linden
#

pog

sullen linden
dense python
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Hey im thinking of getting a VR headset super soon, on reviews i'm seeing people setting the IPD or whatever it's called, how do you even measure that on yourself?

dusk coral
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I think there is like an app that uses the camera to measure it

flat pawn
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Yeah, failing that you could always use a ruler and a mirror

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Or if you can dig up your prescription if you wear glasses it should be listed there somewhere

dense python
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oh dope i just got new glasses like a week ago, ill check that, thanks

pastel echo
inner oak
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im on quest nothing looks fre there

pastel echo
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That's even better

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Use sidequest

inner oak
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last time i got a game there it was supper laggy and made my full headset lag

pastel echo
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Then don't get that game

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Get one that works

inner oak
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so i tryed like 10 or 20 games

pastel echo
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Pavlov shack is pretty good one to start

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Also hand physics lab and the cubism demo were both enjoyable

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Rec room has plenty of game rooms and VRchat is cool

inner oak
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vr chat got boring and same with rec room

pastel echo
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I don't care for you anymore,
begone wench and beg elsewhere

inner oak
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i played rec room to much when i had a psvr

haughty thistle
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VRchat is a lot more fun on PC then on Quest anyways cbWhatever

flat pawn
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Yeah, everything is blocked on quest

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No fun allowed

inner oak
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i was using linkl

sullen linden
#

Meanwhile me on vrchat for 3+ years concernfroge

sullen linden
inner oak
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idk how to do that for vr games

gentle coral
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Or if you have a friend with more vr games, use steam sharing.

Me and my friends each have access to a library of about 300 paid VR games and another 200 free VR games since we share our library's and I think we are about to break 2000 games total through steam sharing.

inner oak
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i dont have any wiht them\

gentle coral
flat pawn
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Buy the vr games you're interested in

inner oak
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i wish i could

flat pawn
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Support the people actually making vr content

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Many of these games are really cheap

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You can

inner oak
#

im poor

flat pawn
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and the games are cheap

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a match made in heaven

inner oak
#

im like no money the same day i get payed poor

harsh niche
#

ok if you have no money to buy games why are you asking for games to buy

inner oak
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want asking for games to buy

harsh niche
#

so you can't buy games because you have no money

inner oak
#

yeah

harsh niche
#

so get free ones?

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you said you had link

inner oak
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none of the free ones look to good

harsh niche
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roblox vr is a thing

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so is minecraft

inner oak
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b ut you half to buy it

rancid fiber
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Ok, so, imagine beat saber, it has everything for cross-platform, but it doesnt have cross platform

harsh niche
zinc timber
inner oak
#

na

zinc timber
#

so
how would cross platform

inner oak
#

moble

rancid fiber
zinc timber
rancid fiber
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It is multiplayer

zinc timber
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oh, they just updated it

rancid fiber
#

A few months ago

gentle coral
#

I am getting very hyped for neurotech integrated VR and AR gaming this seems to be the year it will actually happen on a decent scale. (Though some of the early games will be more demo like).

Last night was a review of the cool stuff in neurotech from 2020, and quite a few of the items were VR and gaming focused.

Here is a youtube link for anyone interested.

https://youtu.be/BA-zQOO6_a8

Hopefully I will get a few devices by mid March.

I really want to try the Brink Bionics "Impulse neuro-controller" soon. And see if it will work with vr controllers instead of a mouse.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/impulse-neuro-controller-for-pc-gaming#/

Being able to predict your intention to press a button is really useful in fast paced games. Also lowering your overall input lag by 80ms is a big deal.

It might sound like science fiction, or some bogus hoax, but the science is very sound, and well researched at this point, and is completely doable with the hardware they have in the device.

At some point it will probably be possible to cut out another 40 to 80ms by just using EEG and eye tracking and cutting out the stuff after the intention to click has been observed by the EEG headset.

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inner oak
#

how is that vr?

gentle coral
#

Many of the technologies can be used in VR

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And VR is already used for quite a bit of neurotech and medical research and applications.

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Using the impulse neuro controller in a competitive VR shooter would make a big difference, probably even more then on regular flat games, as the triggers on a lot of VR controllers have to be pulled much further, and work over a very crowded Bluetooth connection.

pastel echo
harsh niche
#

😉 yo homie

gentle coral
pastel echo
spare dagger
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Doea anyone know if I can play roblox vr with virtual desktop on the quest 2 ?

sullen linden
sullen linden
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yes you can

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I googled it

lofty minnow
#

any news on the deca gear?

haughty thistle
inner oak
sullen linden
#

then play them

inner oak
#

wish i had more and 2 i sold my psvr for the heasset andjust had enough for the headset and im geting board of the 2 games

sullen linden
#

then get a job or something

inner oak
#

i have one

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all my money goes to bills

sullen linden
#

then borrow some money from a friend or something

inner oak
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no one will let me brrow money

sullen linden
#

well what are your two games

inner oak
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beat saber and synth riders

sullen linden
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how could you get bored of beat saver though? Just download new beat maps and try to get a perfect score

sullen linden
sullen linden
# inner oak wish i had more and 2 i sold my psvr for the heasset andjust had enough for the ...

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inner oak
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i know i tryed some games that said theay were free games but ended up being demos

sullen linden
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Echo VR isn’t a demo

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all of the games listed in that aren’t demos

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Or maybe you’ve not got money for VR

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possibly because you blew it on :

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You know Skyrim VR is a thing right?

inner oak
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that was befor i got the pc vr

sullen linden
#

just download Skyrim VR

inner oak
#

eh i played to much skyrim

sullen linden
#

dude you literally own all of these VR games

inner oak
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tthere all free ones i didnt like

sullen linden
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you OWN Skyrim VR

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go and play it

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I’d kill for some Skyrim vr rn

inner oak
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eh it crashes to much

sullen linden
#

Payday 2 has VR

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go play that or something

inner oak
#

i couldent get the vr to work in payday

sullen linden
#

how old did you say you were?

inner oak
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never did

sullen linden
#

so how old are you then?

inner oak
#

23

sullen linden
#

why don’t you sell your Xbox or something

inner oak
#

who said i had an xbox?

sullen linden
#

just a guess

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but why buy a vr headset if you aren’t financially stable enough to afford games for it and then BEG for games bigloqHype

inner oak
#

i had a psvr and sold it for the quest2

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most my vr games ore on ps4

sullen linden
#

@pastel echo this dude has like 20 vr games and 5 vr compatible games according to his steam account, yet begged for them and said he only has 2 😳

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Sell your PS4 games then

inner oak
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yeah 2 playable ones

sullen linden
#

if you can play Skyrim, you can play Skyrim VR

inner oak
#

and all mny games are digital

sullen linden
#

If you can play Payday, you can play payday VR

inner oak
#

no skyrim vr starts turning on then crashes

sullen linden
#

then do some research to fix it

inner oak
#

i cant get payday vr to even work so no i cant

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ive tryed

flat pawn
#

What happens when you try to play it in vr?

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Error message? Crash? Talk to us

outer dew
#

So I got Half Life Alyx along with a quest 2 using a gtx 970, running at like the lowest in game settings and like half resolution I manage like 30-40 fps. But my buddy is going to get rid of his old gtx 1060 3gb soon and I did some research and found something that NVIDIA made called VRWorks which has one card render one eye and the other render another. Would this be possible between a gtx 970 and a gtx 1060 3gb in Half Life Alyx?

haughty thistle
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Nope. Multi-GPU setups are basically unsupported for pretty much all VR games released to consumers

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And even if it would be implemented in one, you'd still need 2 of the same GPU for it to work

outer dew
#

Darn, I really wanna play Half Life Alyx but it just runs awfully on my hardware, oh well I'll just sell the two cards and wait for the 3060 to actually be in stock

gloomy crater
#

Welp things appear to be getting worse. Now the grey screen glitch has passed over from HLA to now appearing in beatsaber as well. That and all my mods getting wiped out as a result of a core game update has me pretty annoyed right now

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I'm gonna try the rest of the games in my library later to see if it's happening everywhere. Still, that won't help me figure out what the actual issue is

pulsar steeple
#

im making a vr game. What would you guys think has not been seen before but would be successful

wary dagger
#

start with game idea first then think about how you wanna do it

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setting out to make a game is not gonna be a good

leaden ruin
pulsar steeple
#

that is what i am asking, i want some ideas

wary dagger
#

has to be an idea that pops in your mind and if your lucky its a ideal for vr

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you could just copy half life alyx but thats too much

leaden ruin
sullen linden
leaden ruin
#

will run half life alyx very well

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and i see now, didn't read up high enough. sorry 🙂

sullen linden
#

will my 2070 super run half life alyx?

leaden ruin
#

ofcourse

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easily

sullen linden
#

wohoo

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I’m getting a quest 2 soon

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first time trying vr 😳

leaden ruin
#

especially with a quest 2

pulsar steeple
#

will my nasa supercomputer run alyx?

leaden ruin
#

that only needs 72 frames per second

sullen linden
#

what about 90?

leaden ruin
#

also good

sullen linden
#

isn’t the quest 2 also 90hz

leaden ruin
#

quest 2 is 72 rn but a update should bump that to 90 in most light games

sullen linden
#

ahh sweet

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I think it’d be useful in games like beatsaber

pulsar steeple
#

beatsaber on quest is terrible

sullen linden
#

why though?

gloomy crater
sullen linden
#

I’ve heard it’s bad but no one suggests why

gloomy crater
#

I know people who play beatsaber primarily on quest despite having the ability to play via pc

sullen linden
#

but that doesn’t say why it’s bad

pulsar steeple
#

mods/songs are alot harder to install so you are usually stuck with the 4 songs included with the game and you have to use a pc to install them

gloomy crater
#

no you don't

pulsar steeple
#

for the good mods you do

gloomy crater
#

I played beatsaber on quest for a year. Songs were easy to install, no PC or external device needed other than for the initial install of sidequest, which I did in ten minutes and never required an external device again

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Also, most mods you can install using a mobile device

pulsar steeple
#

sidequest feels like it was made by a 4 yr old

gloomy crater
#

no argument there

sullen linden
#

so easy to use then

gloomy crater
#

the UI is horrible

pulsar steeple
gloomy crater
#

If you know how to do everything necessary, then yeah it's not very time consuming. Just complicated and not very intuitive

#

if you've ever tried to mod a singleplayer game in the early 2000s using a poorly developed community made tool, it kind of feels like that

sullen linden
#

What can you do on side quest?

pulsar steeple
#

install some mods

gloomy crater
#

All side quest is used for is loading external data onto the quest itself. It can be used to install games, programs, and patches to existing software. It opens up what you can do with the quest's standalone features a considerable amount

sullen linden
#

Can you put PCVR games on the quest to use standalone?

pulsar steeple
#

if you have a pc, i would go for the rift s tho. Quest has alot of annoyances

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such as battery, modding, games, software, etc

sullen linden
#

but I need it for standalone as well as pcvr

pulsar steeple
#

oof

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i feel bad for you

sullen linden
#

why?

gloomy crater
#

The quest is very annoying while trying to run PCVR

pulsar steeple
#

^^

sullen linden
#

I’d use it PCVR constantly but I need it also for when I go to a mates house to take it to my girlfriends

#

Why is it annoying in PCVR?

pulsar steeple
#

ports are shit

sullen linden
#

Can’t you just use it like a rift though

gloomy crater
#

Well, it's annoying depending on what you do with it. There's lots of issues with the quest link and data compression they use, and using it via virtual desktop presents its own set of issues

pulsar steeple
#

and oculus software is honestly a let down. hardware is a solid 7/10 but software is 1/10

sullen linden
#

But what I don’t understand is why it doesn’t just turn into a rift when you plug it in and do the same thing

pulsar steeple
#

because oculus software

gloomy crater
#

You have to jump through a bunch of hoops to connect the quest for PC play. meanwhile the Rift S is just plug in and play since it's PC only

sullen linden
#

I would just buy the rift, if I didn’t want to take it to friends houses and stuff

pulsar steeple
#

*opens kickstarter*

gloomy crater
#

If it's your only option, then there's not much you can do, just be prepared to learn how to troubleshoot it, because some sort of problem is inevitable. VR is far from the smoothest form of software implementation as of late

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It's not the end of the world to own a quest. It just takes a bit more work

sullen linden
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yeah I was prepared for a bit of hassle and tbh, I enjoy troubleshooting things lmao

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Can you get banned from using the quest entirely if you pirate games onto it using side quest? @gloomy crater

gloomy crater
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I'm sure you can sideload actual pirated software to the quest, because sidequest is basically just a deep fried APK injector, but that would require you to actually have illegally made or acquired APKs of actual games to start with, which you are unlikely to come across. Meanwhile, there are lots of programs that you can sideload for free using sidequest, which are completely legal and most of the time put on sidequest for people to download for free by the developers themselves. In that case, using sidequest to sideload programs that were made public by developers is not illegal and as far as I know has not lead to anyone getting their account banned

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Pavlov is a popular example. It's a game you can pay for on steam, but a version that's quest compatible was made by the devs and placed on sidequest for free download by everyone, so you can play it for free on quest standalone

sullen linden
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Sweet!! I really wanted pavlov!

gloomy crater
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I mean, the sidequest version of pavlov is still pretty limited in terms of its features because it's forced to run on the quest's built in hardware, and you won't be able to play with people running the game on PC obviously, but if you don't have any other games, the experience you get from the free quest version of pavlov is pretty sweet for costing nothing

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The free quest version includes a firing range where you can test out guns as well as public servers for a few gamemodes on a few maps. I don't know if anything new has been added recently because I haven't owned a quest in a few months, but what was there when I last played was pretty satisfying for a free game

sullen linden
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Can I play Pavlov on steam using my quest link?

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@gloomy crater

harsh niche
leaden ruin
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ah

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i have rift s so didnt know

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but i heard of it coming to quest 2

gloomy crater
pastel echo
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Bunch of haters in this chat for real

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Using quest 2 with PC is literally plug click a button and play

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What hoops do you have to jump through??? Pushing "enable link" in your headset? Newsflash you have to out the headset on anyway you creatins

pastel echo
gloomy crater
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in other news VR hates me now for some reason

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After upgrading literally my entire setup to be able to play VR, all my games have some sort of issue now

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Dealing with they grey screen glitch in literally all my owned titles, and specialized issues in each individual game, after spending months trying to get my system to a point where it can run these games smoothly is honestly wearing thin my patience for what is essentially still a growing platform. These games are fun but ultimately not worth the time I'm spending trying to troubleshoot them. I might just put my headset in a box and go back to playing regular games until things are more ironed out

sullen linden
pulsar steeple
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he might not be a native english speaker

opal berry
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Do you think you could run VR on this?

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cause like its in theory powerful enough

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This is a legitimate question not a troll

thick nest
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ur joking right?

sullen linden
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you know what a joke is right?

thick nest
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ok

harsh niche
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I just have a problem with them getting mad when people don’t understand “someone helping me find game”

thick nest
opal berry
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I just wanted help with my dumbass question but now theres a fight going down

thick nest
thick nest
opal berry
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aw

outer dew
pastel echo
# thick nest for the game

No like there was a person who wanted people here to buy them games but was being completely dead faced to any suggestion that wasn't buying them games

leaden ruin
pastel echo
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Lucky

leaden ruin
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yeah

outer dew
thick nest
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r/choosing beggars

leaden ruin
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with the triple fans

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with ofcourse the new vbios

harsh niche
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and any free games people suggested or they already had, he said "boring" or "buggy" or whatever

thick nest
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ik

leaden ruin
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@harsh niche scarred

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i have more vr games

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i will wait to play half life alyx until i have my new graphics card

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or atleast the story

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i will now see how my old rx 570 4gb will perform xD

harsh niche
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dang

sullen linden
opal berry
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thats screwed up

sullen linden
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we told him about all the free vr games there are and i sent him many lists but they are "rubbish" or "buggy"

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i checked his steam list and he owns 20+ vr games

opal berry
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oof

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i only own vr chat

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I dont even have a headset what is he complaining about?

haughty thistle
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TLDR of this video: don't be rough with the Index
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lILlWMLTn0c

YouTube
ThrillSeeker
What Happened to my Valve Index After 2000 Hours?

Hello! Here is an updated video as promised of my Valve index after 2000 hours and about a year and a half of usage. I have been through a lot and I have learned a lot about the index and how to make it last a long time, so buckle up and enjoy!

BTW, im super sorry, this this video took me way longer to do than normal, Im using multiple differen...

▶ Play video
opal berry
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Dont do handstands

haughty thistle
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I only really had 2 right controllers fail on me randomly, 1 cable showing the flashing white dots and a speaker that just started rattling. Then there were the initial flaws with the controllers where they wouldn't click in all directions and my first right replacement was already somewhat damaged at arrival (lower third of the track pad didn't work and a very heavy squeaking trigger).
I hadn't had an issue since May 2020 actually, so almost a year without issues on my Index actually

lofty minnow
gloomy crater
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Someone said all my issues might be caused by my cable being worn, so I might have to get that replaced if I don't find out if anything else is going on. I don't really know how easy it is to replace or repair index parts though

pastel echo
lofty minnow
carmine wharf
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is there a way to make the oculus quest comfortable that doesnt require like a $200 deluxe audio strap

crisp nymph
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Hmmmm I missed alot didn't I

pastel echo
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Or you can buy the 50 elite strap

carmine wharf
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elite strap doesnt work with quest 1

pastel echo
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Oh my bad bro misread that

pastel echo
restive turret
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hey guys, I am looking to mod my rift S. I'd like to get more comfort overall. Like changing the headstrap, get a VR cover ect... Any suggestion? (dm me)

haughty thistle
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Except that this probably wouldn't even involve 3D printed parts, and instead could be all solved by using the hook side of Velcro and a few cable ties...

haughty thistle
# gloomy crater Someone said all my issues might be caused by my cable being worn, so I might ha...

Replacing the cable on the Index is pretty easy. I had to replace mine too and the only thing you really have to be careful about is the clip that holds the cable to the strap next to the left speaker. Don't pull it perpendicular to the headstrap, only parallel to the headstrap. Other then that it's pretty much a piece of cake:

First remove the clip next to the left speaker, then unplug the cable from the HMD. Now remove the clip on the back of the headstrap and the cable is off the HMD.
Just do these steps in reverse to put a new cable in. The clip on the back of the strap only goes in one way btw

umbral garden
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Any tips to combat fogging up mensen while doing something physically intensive? My entire screen goes blurry lol

gentle coral
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I am guessing you mean lenses, and it depends the HMD, as it depends where the gaps are between the face and headset, and the facial interface

umbral garden
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The quest 2

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The fogging cleared up a lot after an hour of playing but that’s basically half the play time

haughty thistle
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I don't know how well this applies to VR, but to prevent my bathroom mirror to fog up when I shower, I make sure to make it really warm in the bathroom before showering. That warms up the mirror too and the fog is much more likely to deposit somewhere else. Maybe making sure to warm the lenses up before playing VR might help?

gentle coral
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Yep, high difference in local temperature or humidity can definitely cause fog. Your facial skin temperature while playing VR might be different enough from the headset that your sweat can cause fog.

umbral garden
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Also I should definitely have listened to the advice to immediately put the headset down when you feel motion sickness

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Pro tip: “just one more song” is not a good idea

sullen linden
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if you load a game onto the quest with sidequest, can you play that literally anywhere?

umbral garden
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Yes, I believe so

sullen linden
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cool

thick nest
umbral garden
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You’re “just” installing APK’s like you would on a phone, they’re stored locally.

sullen linden
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is there any way to put the ACTUAL Pavlov on it instead of Pavlov shack?

thick nest
sullen linden
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pavlov shack is free but is there a way to put the actual pavlov on it?

thick nest
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isnt the actual pavlov on steam

sullen linden
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yeah, but how do you put it on the quest

thick nest
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you cant

sullen linden
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is it not possible

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oh okay

thick nest
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its not an APK

sullen linden
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yeah but can you not download an APK of it

thick nest
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steam games are exported for pc so this wouldnt apply for an android device which the quest 2 is

sullen linden
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oh okay

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thanks anyway, pavlov shack looks identical anyway

thick nest
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no problem

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i guess they could just export it to APK instead but i think the reason the devs didnt is bc of hardware limits and such

sullen linden
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so is pavlov shack just the same game but worse quality?

thick nest
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also sometimes its not as easy as just changing platform since they will have to use oculus's SDK or others to implement vr with the quest

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so they will have to change most code for the player

thick nest
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but i saw a couple clips of both

sullen linden
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Onward is a good game right?

thick nest
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yep

sullen linden
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sweet

pastel echo
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I enjoyed onward

sullen linden
pastel echo
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Uhhh they both look like a PS2

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Pavlov seemed easier to control with the quest 2 though

thick nest
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question why does sidequest give me errors when installing

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i mean when i try sideloading pavlov shack

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everything else works fine

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i sideloaded a ton of apk's but it gave me this error "HPE_JS_EXCEPTIONclose"

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and when the pop up appeared it said no space left on device but i have 40gb left on my quest 2

sullen linden
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You can play steamVR games on the quest right?

flat pawn
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gotta link it to a computer

sullen linden
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yeah I figured that, but does it work well?

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@pastel echo @flat pawn how does this list look? Any games im missing that I need to try out?

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flat pawn
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talos principle vr is pretty good I think

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dirt rally if you're curious about racing in vr

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or project cars/assetto corsa

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walking dead saints and sinners is another winner

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there's myst in VR also if you're into that

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obduction also

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same creators

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there's a psychonauts VR experience

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I love psychonauts so I had to mention that lol

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I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple of good ones

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phasmophobia could be fun with friends

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last time I tried it ingame chat audio was glitched

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blade and sorcery

harsh niche
sullen linden
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i have a feeling the screen would go like rainbow or blurry

harsh niche
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like if you've ever gone snorkeling and rented from a place and they give you a little bottle of the anti fog stuff and you drop it in the goggles and spread it around

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yeah probably

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the goggles are plastic anyways

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and i think most lenses are glass but idk

pastel echo
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Also GORN

sullen linden
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is blade and sorcery easy to mod? I really want the lightsabers haha

pastel echo
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We'll see when the new update goes live how long it takes but there has been a mod manager for the last 3 versions

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So it's just clicking buttons to install

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Even if the mod manager doesn't update right away you just drag stuff into the right folders so it's just as easy as modding minecraft

sullen linden
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I have phasmaphobia already

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do I have to buy a separate version for VR or not?

haughty thistle
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Phasmo has a VR mode in the base game. No need to purchase a seperate version for that

pulsar steeple
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@sullen linden what about beatsaber?

sullen linden
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that is on the list

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second

pulsar steeple
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oh yea, missed it

sullen linden
pulsar steeple
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to busy working out the steamVR sdk for unity

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if you can, get the 256

sullen linden
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yeah I can do, but idk if its worth £100

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more

pulsar steeple
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if you can install more games, it is a bonus

distant spade
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Wish I had enough for vr :/

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I'm looking at a used cv1 right now, I'm 30CAD short :/

sullen linden
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try to borrow off a friend or parents

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tell them youll pay interest

pulsar steeple
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or rob a bank, you can get the vive pro then

sullen linden
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Or be smart and take out a loan at the bank and then buy the bank

distant spade
sullen linden
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i meant money

distant spade
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Most don't even have a pc

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Oh

pulsar steeple
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he meant money

distant spade
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They're not gonna just let me borrow money.

pulsar steeple
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most people will if they trust you will give it back

distant spade
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Especially when they don't have like any money either.

pulsar steeple
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what about getting a job?

distant spade
pulsar steeple
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i got my first £1000 doing freelance website development when i was 12

sullen linden
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well for my pc I asked a family member If i could borrow £400 for it, which they gave me... Once I got it all working and showed them what it could do, they let me HAVE the money as an "investment in my future"... try convince someone that it will make a change

pulsar steeple
distant spade
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400 dollars? I'd be lucky if I can get 5 from a friend or parents, I literally asked my mom for the extra 30 and they laughed at me

sullen linden
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but convince her that it is for your future and that you maybe want to pursuit a passion in making VR games, even if you dont want to

distant spade
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They don't believe that, especially when they think I'm "failing school", despite me having a b or a.

sullen linden
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dude, even if you fail school, that doesnt mean that you cant do what you love

distant spade
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But if I get VR, they think I'm gonna focus less on school and fail

sullen linden
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then tell them its for school related stuff too, tell them that there are educational games on it related to maths and puzzles and physics

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like the space game from nasa, or the national geographic game

distant spade
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They know what VR is, that's not gonna work.

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Especially when they know what games I'm gonna play.

sullen linden
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then tell them VR is for learning and that "your games" are only for free time and the weekend

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it is all about convincing them and showing them that maybe it is a good thing

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its the future

pulsar steeple
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even making a vr game and selling it to earn money

sullen linden
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exactly, tell them that if it is something you enjoy then you will pay them back but if you dont like it, then you will sell it and give them more than what they gave you

distant spade
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I don't know how to make games though, I opened up unity once and gave up.

pulsar steeple
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that is the worst thing to do. giving up is not an option

sullen linden
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you dont have to do it, just tell them you will

distant spade
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Actually, is 220CAD even a good deal for a cv1 with the 3rd sensor?

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Probably should have said that originally if I hadn't already.

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Cause it's the cheapest I've seen locally recently.

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It also says it comes with usb extensions?

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I probably won't need them but that's probably worth quite a bit right?

pulsar steeple
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yea

distant spade
pulsar steeple
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i mean, the s is better but 220 is decent

distant spade
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The cheapest Rift S I think is like 400

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CAD

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I'll check right now though

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Yeah cheapest is 400

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Cheapest quest 1 is 350 and cheapest Q2 is 450

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Cheapest WMR is 200 but wmr is dead so yeah

pulsar steeple
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lol

distant spade
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Sorry, cheapest Q2 is 500, the other one sold.

pale orbit
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wmr isn't dead, Microsoft is still releasing updates for it. HP just released the G2 and it looks like samsung probably has a new headset coming

distant spade
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But I mean the ones like acer, Lenovo, HP (the crappy one), ect.

pale orbit
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they'll still work just as they always have

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apparently the new wmr software updates have helped them with a few things as well

distant spade
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But they're not really good, I would rather get the cv1 for the only extra 20.

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I've heard tracking problems atleast with the acer one, I just assumed the rest were the same.

pale orbit
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other then basically every wmr headset having a higher res screen. the downside is the small tracking volume and the controllers

sullen linden
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is the quest 2 res good?

pale orbit
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yup

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the higher the res display the harder it is to drive just like trying to play a game on a 4k screen vs a 1080p one

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so your system will have to be stronger

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the G2's 2160x2160 display is about the equivalent of a 480p (640x480) screen for ppi

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it will take some time before we get headsets that have a res high enough that it would be the equal of looking at a 1080p and higher screen

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and the gpu requirements to drive those will be bonkers compared to today

distant spade
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I have a 980ti, I don't know if that's good in the VR world considering minimum requirement for most VR games is 970 or 980 in some cases.

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Stupid phone keeps correcting "VR" to "be".

pale orbit
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the CV1 isn't that hard to drive considering it's specs a 980ti should be fine

distant spade
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Ok

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So It should be fine in these games?:

Beat saber
Population One
Pavlov
Phasmophobia
Vrchat
Minecraft VR

pale orbit
distant spade
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Not sure why that sent twice

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Uh oh, I NEED usb 3.0?

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Cause I don't have any usb 3.0 ports.

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Only 2.0

pale orbit
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sol I guess. unless you buy a pcie usb expansion card I guess

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but that's throwing more $ at an old system/headset

distant spade
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I could probably buy one for 10 dollars so that's fine.

haughty thistle
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Afaik every headset except the Vive requires USB 3.0. The OG Quest (and possibly the Vive Pro and Index, but I'm not sure with these) you can go with USB 2.0, but it's not recommended to do so. If you can run the Index and Vive Pro on USB 2.0, then the cameras most likely will not work

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I don't know about PiMax tho...

distant spade
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I'll try it with usb2 first, if I have issues I'll get a PCIe card.

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That's if I actually get the cv1.

carmine wharf
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hello im having issues with my oculus quest, yesterday i played universe sandbox in vr and it worked fine, but i started up half life alyx today and its a glitchy stuttery mess even on low, i mean its a lot better than before where i couldnt even launch steamvr, but still its unplayable. id also like to point out the game worked just fine on my first and second playthrough several months ago

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i was originally planning to buy a valve index with some money i saved, but i ended up getting a second monitor and a smart watch, i feel like that may have been a mistake considering i cant even play vr now

sullen linden
carmine wharf
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could be, but it ran fine a few months ago and all ive really done is update oculus software

sullen linden
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What are your specs?

carmine wharf
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i5 9400, 16gb ram, rtx 2060

sullen linden
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Have you tested other games, are they okay?

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Your specs are efficient, my friend runs it from a 1050ti

carmine wharf
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yeah like i said, universe sandbox vr runs fine

sullen linden
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Could possibly be an issue with half life

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Wait for the next update and then try

carmine wharf
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well, i say it runs fine

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but really universe sandbox was a little stuttery too

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just not as bad

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could be nvidia drivers?

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Tbh wanted to get an ipad for my birthday, but if I can't get this stuff fixed I guess I'll have to save up for an index again

restive turret
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Hello, has anyone ever been able to overclock the 80hz pannel of the rift s?

harsh niche
harsh niche
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i was messing around with supersampling n stuff and i found out that something i did tanked my performance so i redid all of the settings back to normal and it wouldn't go away

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i had to reinstall steamvr and the oculus software

pastel echo
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I love the advice here

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Need money?
1.Become a programmer
2.Borrow money despite having no way to pay it back
3.Lie to your parents

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All excellent choices

pastel echo
distant spade
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I have like nothing to put on my resume, I need job experience to get a job, but I need a job to get job experience. Also, once again, not many places are looking to hire because of covid in my area.

pastel echo
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You're just deciding these things

distant spade
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What do you mean

dense python
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you won't get hired if you don't try

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eventually some place will decide to hire you even without experience

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tens of thousands of people go through the same and they all get through

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its literally a matter of keep trying

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do you plan to give up and stay unemployed forever or something