public-chat

[marble dome]

if anyone knows of a OCSP Responder that works on windows 11 please send me the link to it.

[midnight elk]

Lmaooo

The email is from https://courvix.com/

[stark panther]

mine is at 16k now

bc thermal throtteling :_:

[full fossil]

Wot? Are you stress testing it or benchmarking it??

Shouldn't throttle that hard in a benchmark, or I don't think it should

[chrome vector]

No, but it is giving kids the attention span of a fucking gnat. I automatically skip any split screen video with stupid shit like subway surfers at the bottom.

It could be the most interesting topic I have ever heard, not watching or supporting that shit.

[manic torrent]

This is a very simplistic view that doesn't scale.

[meager herald]

The exception to the rule isnt the rule

[manic torrent]

On a population scale, "lol these people are stupid" is not a useful thing. It also blames people personally, rather than those designing things specifically to exploit people.

[meager herald]

well no its just regarding the kind of bs there is on tiktok, and the ppl using it, its not that it made them dumb it just showed their true colors

that and ppl should have critical thinking skills thats why it blames them personally

otherwise you could make ppl believe anything

[manic torrent]

..... You literally can

"people should have critical thinking skills" - who is teaching them these skills?

[meager herald]

idk ...maybe schools, their parents mainly who are meant to raise them

if you dont have critical thinking, you just have npcs who believe anything which is pretty dangerous

[lilac bear]

sounds like a skill issue

[meager herald]

Fr

[low rain]

Tbh idk how I’m a straight A student cause most the time in class I’m kinda just sitting there either watching a movie or TikTok

[meager herald]

That dont make you dumb, just means you have a bad attention span cause of it

[low rain]

I just hate listening to teachers rant

[severe flame]

hi

[low rain]

I was bored so I decided to not use my phone in class for a couple days and I realized most the time in science it’s just the teacher talking about his life and telling us basically his whole life story

[manic torrent]

and who taught the parents? and schools across the US are having systematic campaigns to actually make them objectively worse? This is not an individual problem.

[meager herald]

their parents. its a life experience type of thing

[fiery rune]

Tell me yall don’t wanna see this https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT83fxmts/

[lilac bear]

embed fail

[meager herald]

their parents' parents should have, you either learn from your own experience or other ppl's experience

and learning from your own experience is more costly

https://tenor.com/view/find-out-goof-gif-27488654

[manic torrent]

yes, except that on a scale of 1, that works, but at a population level, it doesn't. Also you have to realise that people exist across a bell curve.

[low rain]

If y’all have heard the new Kanye album how do yall feel about it

[meager herald]

I mean...its better for ppl to try and solve it themselves than to wait for someone else

[manic torrent]

Not to mention that education, resources, etc is not distributed evenly, and there are people working VERY hard to limit access to things

[fresh vector]

Just got a gpu for 80 bucks

[meager herald]

you cant change the circumstances, only yourself

[fresh vector]

Gonna test it rn

[manic torrent]

again, your scale is fucked, you're thinking about a single person

[meager herald]

no im saying everyone should do that

[manic torrent]

lol kanye.

[meager herald]

theres always outliers but oh well, same thing with anything, some people succeed others fail

[manic torrent]

yes, and I'm saying that clearly doesn't and CAN'T work. and you completely fail to understand public health and population level analysis.

[low rain]

If me and my friends have things we don’t need we just sell it to eachother for like 7 cents or whatever, I got my friends 1660 super for like 26 cents and it’s just sitting in my closet

[low rain]

Honestly overall I think it was a good album but it had some bad songs

[manic torrent]

you're not talking about outliers, you're talking about large portions of the population that you're painting as outliers

[meager herald]

in that case, thats a lot more worrying if thats a majority

[manic torrent]

I wouldn't consume anything from that man, he's not well.

[manic torrent]

..... that's the point.

[meager herald]

I mean that sounds like a pretty complicated issue

[manic torrent]

It's not "stupid people individual omg"

[low rain]

Honestly I just separate the artist from the person, as a person I don’t like Kanye I just like his music

[manic torrent]

hahaha, ok dude, you go ahead and do that and pretend that actions don't have consequences

[meager herald]

But this wasnt even a headine issue before this 2020 tiktok bs

or at least it wasnt shown to be

[fresh vector]

Nice!

[low rain]

I never said actions don’t have consequences I completely agree with you that Kanye is a horrible person but that doesn’t mean I won’t listen to his music

[manic torrent]

which means that a) it was the same issue manifesting differently and b) tiktok is doing something differently which is inherently taking advantage of psychology

[meager herald]

Tbh he did go on an interview where he apologised for some of the stuff he said but still

[meager herald]

im thinking b

[manic torrent]

"lol I'm sorry"

[manic torrent]

it's both

[meager herald]

well the main thing is people believe what they hear without much thought

[manic torrent]

yes that's literally how people work.

[meager herald]

I wonder if thats the reason so many ppl started watching this sigma/ tate content

[long briar]

Wait the crazy part is I actually signed up for musically back in 2015 and it was fine?

[meager herald]

completely different thing, no one even knew about it lol

[long briar]

or at least I remembered it being fine, I never used it

[manic torrent]

absolutely - it's easy and they tell you exactly what the problem is, you don't need to think so hard, and you just let them guide you. It's way easier

[long briar]

ie. brainwashing but simplfiied

[meager herald]

that and watching it puts it on your recommended, which basically creates an echo chamber of bullshit

[manic torrent]

now you're cooking with gas!

[meager herald]

bc algorithm

[manic torrent]

Watch some philosphytube, listen to some "you're wrong about", and other such stuff and you'll get a much better perspective. The answer is almost always "it was capitalism all along" or "it was more complicated and the people were victims in their own way"

[meager herald]

ive seen like a couple articles on it, one said it was bc of "lack of critical thinking", the other said it was because of a "lack of masculinity in society" , idk it sounds like a mixed bag

[manic torrent]

oh, also brene brown. Life is hard. and complicated. There's no way around it, even though we would like it to be so

[meager herald]

I mean i try to see both sides of the argument usually to avoid it being too biased

ironically you could say ppl have more critical thinking now bc before you had ppl believing everything the news said, now people are questioning channels like cnn etc

[steep eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/kissing-the-bread-brian-lagerstrom-smooching-the-bread-giving-the-bread-a-kiss-gif-14286366944496546785

[meager herald]

breadd

[steep eagle]

"(except bread)

[manic torrent]

And the problem is.... they are right to question them, but they also don't actually have the access and education and ability to do so with any level of usefulness, so you end up with weaponised "critical thinking".

[manic torrent]

this is also a false dichomoty - the "sides" of all arguments are not equal. A balanced perspective is critical, but this has also been taken advantage of.

[hard stirrup]

I need help with my network speeds..

on my laptop I was getting a constant 800mbps on wi-fi

and now my pc is capping out at 90mbps on a Intel(R) Wi-Fi 6E AX211 160MHz on my pc

[dreamy rose]

is the laptop a macbook?

[hard stirrup]

this adapter shouldnt cap out at 90, should it? it severely affects my network performance and i was wondering how to fix it

[hard stirrup]

the laptop was a gigabyte g5 gd

i have gigabit internet

[dreamy rose]

thats, still a PC. you mean your Tower.

[hard stirrup]

im not looking for remarks, im looking for help

im not looking for snarkiness, if you arent going to help then go back to whatever hole you just crawled out of

[dreamy rose]

you wanna be correct when you are asking for help

[long briar]

sorry about bionic, he's a bit of a turdmonkey here and a known troll

[hard stirrup]

kinda figured

[dreamy rose]

oh grow up. i'm not a troll.

[hard stirrup]

but can you help me?

[hard stirrup]

this reminded me of that dude who makes those videos pretending to be a redit mod

[long briar]

alright basic troubleshooting steps: You have antennas screwed into the wifi antenna points right?

[hard stirrup]

yes

[long briar]

Drivers?

[hard stirrup]

I just checked and it said they were up to date

i can check again though

[dreamy rose]

someones an apple fan.

[long briar]

ax211 is cnvio2, I assume your desktop runs an Intel CPU?

[hard stirrup]

go back to the hole now pls

[hard stirrup]

yes, i have a 13900k

[dreamy rose]

what hole?

[hard stirrup]

the one you crawled out of

[dreamy rose]

pff. i don't crawl out of holes i walk out of doors, stop projecting

[long briar]

Okay, in wifi settings, can you check your link speed and what wifi version it's connected with

[hard stirrup]

im cackling rn

[long briar]

should've known you couldn't tell the difference

[dreamy rose]

at yourself. grow some humor

[hard stirrup]

wheres link speed?

[long briar]

go into the current wireless connection and scroll down

[hard stirrup]

1441/735 mbps

[long briar]

Okay that sounds like a router issue then

[dreamy rose]

and what? you can? get real. i actually leave the goddamn house

[hard stirrup]

alright

[long briar]

Since your maximum theoretical speed between your router and PC is that number as download/upload

[long briar]

check internet priority or similar settings for your router/access point

Past that I'm not too familiar with router settings since it's different for each brand

[hard stirrup]

Its shaw

[long briar]

Oh with the white modem/router combo?

[hard stirrup]

Yes

Do i need to add a port forward for it?

[regal forum]

No, you port forward for things like hosting a server

[hard stirrup]

Okay

[regal forum]

What about your other devices?

What speeds are they getting?

[solar scarab]

hi

[regal forum]

@hard stirrup

[long briar]

I've got the same one, I've never been able to get device priority set up, and the settings page is locked down to the ignite app

[hard stirrup]

The main router is getting normal speeds, but the gaming router connected by ethernet when connected to other devices gets much slower speeds

[long briar]

Wait try to connect the PC to the OEM router and check speeds

[hard stirrup]

The oem router?

[regal forum]

You tried a different cable? Someone i know had really slow internet speeds, it was the cable they replaced the cable and it fixed it

[long briar]

connect to the white one

[hard stirrup]

My cables are all cat8

And the white one is on another floor

[long briar]

Just give it a shot anyway

[regal forum]

And a damaged cat8 cable can give you slow speeds

Im just saying if you run out of ideas try it

[long briar]

to my knowledge it either works or it drops out/severe packet loss, not slowed down speeds.

[velvet marsh]

Is the gaming router in AP mode?

could be a double nat

[long briar]

I wasn't gonna go there just yet

[regal forum]

The dude i know had really slow internet but no packet loss. I rememeber this becauze specifically i thought this was weird

My intuition wouls have though what you just said

[long briar]

I want him to test the stock modem/router combo first to ensure it's either the stock modem or router

[vapid smelt]

#networking

[long briar]

no but bubyz here is prob most likely scenario

[regal forum]

🧐

[long briar]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[harsh quartz]

You laugh at him because you hide your shame.

Gonna keep reposting it?

[regal forum]

I dynamically saw it change from baldurs gate 3

[harsh quartz]

Cool, want a cookie?

[long briar]

I'm hungry can I get one?

[harsh quartz]

No

[junior sun]

im pretty sure ea has THE worst support and app ever

[long briar]

D:

[long briar]

no they're all the same

[harsh quartz]

HP has a worse one, or brother

[junior sun]

its pretty terrible

ive been trying to play a game for 2 days

[vapid smelt]

[hard stirrup]

How do o do that?

[harsh quartz]

HP has terrible support but brother has bad support and a bad app

[harsh quartz]

I was curious how you changed it, not enough to ask though

[velvet marsh]

Which router is it?

[dreamy rose]

its about par for the course dude

the only one that actually does support somewhat right is Steam.

[junior sun]

yeah

[vapid smelt]

just click add a game then chose a random app and edit the name

[dreamy rose]

all these launchers just cause extra problems that do not need to exist. but are forced on you anyway in a desprite attempt to make you use their dumbass storefront

[harsh quartz]

Used to be able to do it through chrome, I think that got removed though

[dreamy rose]

VERY LITTLE benefiet for a lot of effort on their part. its futile

[long briar]

that's almost as if how marketing works

all these stores just cause problems that don't need to exist other than to push their own brands

[junior sun]

i cant even laanch the app and i have been back and forth with support for 2 days ):

[long briar]

Grocery stores, e-retailers, doesn't matter

[harsh quartz]

Just launch the app dude

[junior sun]

it wont let me beceause of their dumb app 😦

they suck

[harsh quartz]

Just click it

[junior sun]

haha i did

i mean look at this he dident even responnd

[harsh quartz]

Welp that’s all I can suggest, better luck next time, tally ho. toodle pip, hip hip away

[long briar]

you couldn't even wait 3 minutes?

[junior sun]

nup

[vapid smelt]

i need help making a 20 sided dice go up to 99

i even rolled a nat 20 😭

[harsh quartz]

Ship to ground combat can multiply a roll value times 10

[harsh quartz]

Wait nat 20 should auto succeed without even meeting the DC, do they not do that on BG3?

[dreamy rose]

well, this "Marketing" surely makes me NEVER want to touch any Ubisoft or EA games. hell i reluctantly use RGL for rockstars games. and its caused me more grief than any other

[vapid smelt]

nope it got me to 71 out of 99

[long briar]

which is fine? is it that bad if you don't game?

[harsh quartz]

Nat 20 should be a critical success and that’s bullshit

[dreamy rose]

it makes me NOT buy their games in general on any platform.

actively going against their wishes.

[junior sun]

its terrible

i only play fc6 and 5 because they are amazing

[dreamy rose]

which this marketing fails to do its own job. to market. it just instead tells you "fuck you give us money or you're gonna regret it"

[junior sun]

ik

[dreamy rose]

genuine apple behaviour.

[junior sun]

my support guy takes 5 minutes to write 5 words 😦

[harsh quartz]

That support guy probably has 10-15 different chats open at once

[junior sun]

yeah

[vapid smelt]

or netflix

[junior sun]

probably

[harsh quartz]

If it was American, sure, but don’t do my man bharti like that, my man’s an honest worker

[junior sun]

maybe

[dreamy rose]

i've seen a guy in another server have to spend like half an hour to try and refund this dumb norton subscription

they just don't do actual support anymore

[hard stirrup]

i fixed it

for some reason my tv being in the 100mb ethernet slot was making my internet cap out at 100 as well

[velvet marsh]

It's wild that most tvs are still 10/100

[hard stirrup]

i put it in the gigabit slot and it fixed my wifi

so weird how that worked

[velvet marsh]

That's so weird

it's also weird you have a 10/100 slot

[hard stirrup]

shaw is strange

[velvet marsh]

But yeah, even my high end tv still has 10/100

[gleaming harbor]

is slime rancher good to buy on sale

[dreamy rose]

theres the free version called Island Saver. its basically the same

maybe a little more educational i guess

i mean hey. who cares free achievements right

[indigo plume]

Looks like I'm gonna have to refund he'll divers 2 keeps crashing

guess its not optimized for amd cards

[gleaming harbor]

i played on switch n pc its like you collect trash and save the animals
slime rancher you collect slimes and it's like a farm sim

[dreamy rose]

pretty similar, same style of game really

i was suprised it wasn't when the thing came out

because, its SO DAMN OBVIOUS that people would use the thing for bad.

they misplaces trust in literally anyone

[teal estuary]

doesnt it use entirely off the shelf hardware?

[dreamy rose]

like, when it showed up in the public eye, action wasn't immeditely taken because of what its for

[teal estuary]

its for whatever you want

its not for illegal things

[dreamy rose]

but then how would you be able to buy something practical from Linus?

[gleaming harbor]

the shirt n the mug and the bottle

[dreamy rose]

it'd be more of the shipping tha breaks these things than the user.

shipping is so pathetic at being gentle especially whe you gotta go through the entire world

unreasonably,

[gleaming harbor]

package says fraglie
the delivery guy:

[dreamy rose]

EARTH IS ROUND, USE ITS BALLNESS TO SHIP THINGS FASTER, like goddamn just. shipping to upside down makes me so angry

not to mention how CERTAIN things don't even make it to upside down. (thanks valve)

[teal estuary]

i mean, the other option is to build it into the price of the product, but then there would probably be a minimum order total to get free shipping, and thats not really a better solution overall

[dreamy rose]

don't people below the southern borders of the canadialand have to math their way into the full price cause of taxes anyway?

would you rather it be in AUD instead?

because i wouldn't. people would just be making angry remarks over AUD and how less valuable it is

srsly our dollar is shyte

[fierce moth]

66 cents to the dollar rn iirc

[teal estuary]

glares at JPY, ~150:1 USD

[dreamy rose]

yen is just a fundamentally different value that literally just operates like cents.

[gleaming harbor]

the cheapest candy in conbini (for me) was 106y (not including gum)

[teal estuary]

im aware

still a similar 1.5:1 then

[fierce moth]

Yen doesn't even have decimals

[teal estuary]

im aware, just big conversion number

also, notable, there was a sen, and even a half sen, being a "cent" on the yen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_sen_coin

[dreamy rose]

pretty much just operate as the equal to cents.

[teal estuary]

very aware

[dreamy rose]

i think Nintendo put "Wii Points" in the exact same value as yen

back on the wii shop

damn thats outdated AF

[fierce moth]

Wii points a special thing

1000 wii points = 10 us dollars

Iirc

[dreamy rose]

i think they made it ignore specifics of which currency and jsut made them equal 100-1 of each. unless its Yen so it was 1000-1000.

[teal estuary]

it varies, but yen:usd has overed around 100:1 for most of the last 40 years, soooo

so, 1000yen ~= 10USD

for a long time, that rough approximation had worked

[dreamy rose]

that would have opened the gates to exploit which currencies would make for the cheapest wii points

[teal estuary]

2016-2019 was pretty damn stable at 110:1, sooo

[dreamy rose]

don't think anyone would of really cared to think about that back then though

[fierce moth]

Then covid happened

[teal estuary]

ehh, currency conversion is/was kinda expensive, so, generally not going to be worth it

[dreamy rose]

i wonder when the switch will outsell the PS2.

[fierce moth]

Although I got some of my finest deals from buying from japan

[dreamy rose]

its gonna happen, its nearly at 140 mill

they are gonna be holding on for at least a year more at this point.

[fierce moth]

Eh

Rumours for a switch 2 places it at next month

[gleaming harbor]

one switch game in "the penguin shop" is 6k+ yen minecraft on the otherhand is 3k+ yen

[fierce moth]

Should of clarified, just an announcement

Maybe switch 1 anniversary

[dreamy rose]

still better than paying 120 bucks for GT7

[dreamy rose]

that means they would only have thought of starting to design it now. which i kinda doubt. but. not 100% impossible

[fierce moth]

Nintendo has probably been designing it for the past year

Wouldn't be surprised if they started in q3/q4 2023

[dreamy rose]

didn't mid way Nvidia kill off the tegra?

[fierce moth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vapid zephyr]

Longer than that, almost certainly

The hardware is only like, 20 to 30% of the design process

[karmic wedge]

those pensioners are going to get almost nothing

[fierce moth]

internal dev teams would of gotten dev kits ages ago

maybe q1/q2 2023

im saying that final consumer designs got finalized in q3/q4 2023

or got started on in that timeframe

[dull violet]

bvread

[polar fern]

Watching Citizen Kane. I watched part of it before, but then it was suddenly unavailable to finish on the streaming service I started it. 🤓

[manic torrent]

Good news, you don't have any money so they don't give a shit what you think.

[dreamy rose]

they do, because it certainly aint money going into their pockets

[thorny river]

hi

[vapid zephyr]

If your ass can't afford their shit, they don't care indeed

[dreamy rose]

they indeed do not know or care if you are poor, they just want your money and seconds wasted not getting money is more they care

so yes, they absolutely do care that i'm not giving them money\

in their perfect world every user would buy every game on the app through the app.

thats the exact reason WHY its there, they want you to. so they try to make you, but also don't try for a lawsuit

[raven mauve]

evenin chat

hows life

[vapid zephyr]

They don't 👏 care. 💋

[dreamy rose]

you👏 clearly👏 haven't👏 a👏 clue

[vapid zephyr]

Mad because bad 💋

[dreamy rose]

not mad, you're just wrong

[sand igloo]

To be fair, if enough people stop giving them money, they'll start to... "care".

[vapid zephyr]

Aye, which comes back to my point of them not caring about a single sissy complaining about them on Discord as long they have steady cashflow

[dreamy rose]

in the end they do give a shit because they go down

[true horizon]

guys, amd 7800 xt or 4070 super or 4070 ti super

[dreamy rose]

7800XT, don;t bother with Super unless you have a genuine need for NVENC or CUDA

[true horizon]

im very much interested in frame gen, rtx and dlss but amd js has that price to performance

[dreamy rose]

well well. guess what friend, AMD gives you BOTH the Price/Perf AND the software tricks!

DLSS? absolute crap. FSR 3 is Open Source and works in FAR MORE GAMES!

[true horizon]

and there are many nvidia exclusives as well, but i think amd is js better overall

[dreamy rose]

RT is far more of a gimmick then nesessity still. Frame Gen. they are basically the exact same

[barren kindle]

what ssd do yall recommend for video editing?

[dreamy rose]

rt on radeons worse yes but its not a dealbreaker unless you are a fool.

[dreamy rose]

Gen4 NVME SSD

[barren kindle]

yee but like what speeds

[true horizon]

true

[dreamy rose]

the fastest you can afford.

[vapid zephyr]

Out of all of those, the 4070 SUPER is gonna be the best value. The 7800 XT is good, but kinda negligible

[barren kindle]

is 5000mb/s gonna be enough. i was looking at sn770

[dreamy rose]

it might not matter as much once you get to the gen4 SSDs but generally faster is better for editing

[barren kindle]

i bought a 4070 like a month before the super was announced T-T

[vapid zephyr]

Sure

[dreamy rose]

not much to regret there. the Supers are lame AF

[true horizon]

ok ill be honest the reason why i really wanna go for nvidia is because of the nvenc and a niche minecraft mod which only has support for nvidia (its a chunk loader mod and a performance enhancer)

[dreamy rose]

with a 7800XT? you aren't going to need that.

[vapid zephyr]

(Just so you know, Bionic is known for awful takes and generally being wrong with confidence)

[dreamy rose]

speak for yourself 4head. the reviews back me up here

[vapid zephyr]

He's basically the reason known regulars avoid public chat altogether lmfao

[dreamy rose]

i'm not the one recommending a GPU that reviewed so poor in batch of 3 that it literally lost to the 1080Ti review in view count.

the supers are fucking lame. deal with it

[vapid zephyr]

See? He calls the SUPERs bad cards because they have less views than the 1080 Ti reviews lmfao

[dreamy rose]

PEOPLE are NOT INTRESTED in what SHOULD have been the cards launching YEARS AGO. they are deadass fucking lame. its a fact.

so no the Supers are NOT good buys and the 7800XT is really the only one to consider here.

[manic torrent]

Newsflash it's not just because you are poor it's because you have no influence.

[dreamy rose]

uh yeah as consumers we do. if we do not give a fuck they feak out because they are failing.

[manic torrent]

You aren't a consumer.

You are not participating in the economy.

[dreamy rose]

you aren't a consumer, you aren't currently buying a Graphics card.

[vapid zephyr]

Sorry mate, I was busy talking to women

[dreamy rose]

highly doubt that but okay go on

[vapid zephyr]

Nah I'm being deadass, most of my work colleagues are women lol

[manic torrent]

Lol me2. My wife needed to borrow my phone.

[dreamy rose]

okay, and?

[barren kindle]

WHAT A ROASTTTT

[manic torrent]

We are sorting out the chinese new year hot pot we got from my son's parents

[vapid zephyr]

You implied interest, don't come whining now

[bright silo]

Respec wamen

[barren kindle]

high iq arguments are unfolding

my main roast is "you look like you depreciate in value"

[north escarp]

Just got 27,773 on my combined 3d mark score that good? 4080s 14700k? No overclocking except ram to xmp*

[dreamy rose]

since when did i care about your daily life?

[manic torrent]

Oh dude I am depreciating hard.

[dreamy rose]

none of my business what your day is like.

[vapid zephyr]

Just now, because clearly you aren't thinking while typing your messages 🤔

[vapid zephyr]

uWu

[manic torrent]

Anyway back to this, I can see you don't know shit about fuck.

[dreamy rose]

only one not thinkin is yah pal. outta be gettin some bitches then right

[bright silo]

You have to have value in order to depreciate… ha ha ha ahhh 😢

[dreamy rose]

nah, its you who clearly don't. a consumer is a consumer even if they aren't spending money,

[vapid zephyr]

I have value, I'm eating nutella pancakes right now

[bright silo]

I’ve never had Nutella

[vapid zephyr]

I kinda regularly eat them since I frequently make pancakes for kids after school when they pass my house to go home

No idea why they like them, but I ain't complaining

[manic torrent]

I am choosing not to buy a graphics card. You cannot afford one. We are not the same.

[bright silo]

I could buy a 4090 but i like the money in the bank instead

[dreamy rose]

you think that matters to the manufacturers WHY you aren't buying. you aren't buying. thats all they care.

[north escarp]

I would've got a 4090 but it's just way to spendy even the 1k was alittle to much for just a pc component

[manic torrent]

I mean it doesn't matter at all because they are making money hand over fist doing AI shit, so they don't give a fuck.

[manic torrent]

It makes no sense to upgrade from my 3080 ti

[bright silo]

Nvidia gives zero f’s about consumer gpus… we make them nothing. They will charge what they want and we will pay because duopoly. End of story.

[north escarp]

That's a great card if just gaming and not doing ue5 or blender should suffice. And even then really my 3070 till today was amazing for ue5 stuff

[vapid zephyr]

Best I would have done myself is swap to a 4070 SUPER for efficiency

[dreamy rose]

they would still care. because any markup they make on a GPU regardless of where from is pure profit going into their bank.

[bright silo]

You think consumer graphics matters to shareholders and their portfolios?

[manic torrent]

.... What the fuck is "pure profit going into their bank".

I mean you don't understand economics, I get that, it's complicated. But you don't seem to understand accounting either

[vapid zephyr]

Ah yes, the company that goes out of their way to name themself an 'AI company' totally cares about the consumer buying shit

[manic torrent]

The gamer consumer GPU market is more or less captive and will take whatever shit they are given.

[bright silo]

I should’ve bought more Nvidia stock… my $50 turned into $120! Woo

i have no idea what i am doing

[manic torrent]

Capitalism baby!

[fierce moth]

speaking of stocks, what do yall think abt rpi trading going public?

[north escarp]

I considered intel as its pretty low rn but iffy they've been at a stalemate up and down for awhile

[dreamy rose]

Nvidia could disappear and maybe the gamers would be in grief but nobody would actually give a flying

[vapid zephyr]

Ah, he doesn't know the scale Nvidia is occupying lmao

[north escarp]

Amd is cool to idk whatevers clever. Maybe intel will one day figure it out

[bright silo]

If Nvidia disappears then consumer GPUs would become unobtainable

[north escarp]

They won't just dissappear lol 4080s just sold out along with a few other models

[fierce moth]

thats just wrong

[north escarp]

This next launch is gonna be epiccc

[fierce moth]

did you forget that AMD and intel exists?

[manic torrent]

So their supply is enough for the entire market

[dreamy rose]

clearly i fuckin do. theres other companies out there and the would just go to them. dunno what shit you is smokin

[vapid zephyr]

Nah, consumer GPUs nobody doesn't really care about
If Nvidia suddenly vanished into thin air the tech-industry on an enterprise level would almost immediately collapse lmao

[bright silo]

Nvidia still supplies the lions share of consumer GPUs… if they pulled out of those there would be no way for Intel or AMD to fill the void. At least not in a quick fashion.

[manic torrent]

Also because capitalism is a house of cards.

[dreamy rose]

lmao. they still have the hardware to use.

[fierce moth]

amd would probs just book nvidias formerly existing fab capacity @ tsmc in this hypothetical scenario

[dreamy rose]

plus its not like AMD's offerings are significantly worse.

[vapid zephyr]

That'd still not be something you could just recover from

[manic torrent]

Instantly being able to fulfil all orders

[bright silo]

You don’t get as big as Nvidia overnight. Other companies would not be able to just fill the void.

[dreamy rose]

they are quite the opposite actually

[fierce moth]

i mean its hypothetical for a reason

cause its very unlikely to ever happen

[vapid zephyr]

(They are for the most part 💋)

[dreamy rose]

literally not.

[north escarp]

[vapid smelt]

thats why every ai company is buying amd cards...

[bright silo]

That would assume that Nvidia doesn’t just use the fab space for other needs. Also fabrication takes time. It would be months before supply would even begin to catch up.

[north escarp]

🐛

[vapid zephyr]

Ikr, so my bad

[manic torrent]

And there are export restrictions on amd cards to china

[vapid zephyr]

Idk, is Nvidia the trillion dollar company or AMD?

Get bau bau'ed 😎

[fierce moth]

i could use a trillion dollars

[north escarp]

I could use like 5 for a sandwich

[bright silo]

Idk what i would do with a trillion dollars

Be bored probably

[north escarp]

Alot of sandwichs

[dreamy rose]

whats this supposed to mean? that AMDs offerings have to be inferior? are you actually fucking stupid?

[fierce moth]

easy make your own US military

😎

[vapid zephyr]

Mad because bad 💋

[manic torrent]

Error: insufficient budget

[dreamy rose]

not mad you're just wrong.

[bright silo]

My dear friend, you know that’s only a small drop in the US defense budget right?

[vapid zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-the-sauce-funny-gif-18113029

[north escarp]

Bionic don't take it to heart yall are just debating whole milk and 2%

[fierce moth]

a trillion dollars could make 50% of a US military

[bright silo]

😂

[vapid zephyr]

For about a year or two*

[manic torrent]

.... No, it couldn't. It could keep it going for a year.

[bright silo]

You’re just making that up

[fierce moth]

(source, trust me bro)

[dreamy rose]

Source? just look at their products. simple. you probably couldn't be assed to either. you clearly won't be assed because you already don't know about the MI300.

[vapid zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[north escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-deeds-very-sneaky-sir-gif-9983406

[fierce moth]

okay, if i cant sustain a military with a trillion dollars, what else could i do

[bright silo]

I do wonder how the MI300 compares to an A100/H100

[vapid zephyr]

The source is the US' yearly military spending; which is $773,000,000,000. If you want to do half of that, you're gonna be able to run that for about two years

[fierce moth]

i could buy a company

[whole swallow]

start the only AAA game company that doesn't suck ass

[vapid zephyr]

You could buy thousands if you want to

[fierce moth]

no amount of money can do that

[fierce moth]

nah, like a noteworthy one

[north escarp]

Watching the halo devs talk about making the first game is great, it takes inspiration amongst each dev or even 90s Nintendo devs

[bright silo]

Real question @dreamy rose how old are you?

My guess is 22 or less

[dreamy rose]

why would i have to answer you?

[bright silo]

You don’t? But it’s just a simple question. I’m 27 fwiw

[north escarp]

A year or so ago I was bsing with some unreal tournament guys, I hear they myte try to cook something up from the original (myte)

[dreamy rose]

well yeah so i don't have to. so i won't

[manic torrent]

You can, just not the US one.

[bright silo]

Tbh your lack of answering does kind of tell me all I need to know

[north escarp]

He's 15-17 I'd guess wich is ok

[bright silo]

Eh it doesn’t really matter

[manic torrent]

He has been here for a very long time and has brain worms. He is against Intel and NVIDIA, and pro AMD. To the point of ridiculousness

[dreamy rose]

what do you mean by this? i could be 4, i could be 58, i can still refuse to answer your queston at any age.

[whole swallow]

UserBenchmark's shadow clone

[bright silo]

Oops i think i hit a nerve

[dreamy rose]

i don't shill AMD i just hate stupid companies that sell you bullshit.

[fierce moth]

eh, like what stuff you like, just dont push your abject wrong opinions on others

[manic torrent]

And other lies you tell yourself

[north escarp]

Whatever floats the goat you know 🐐

[bright silo]

I would like to propose that we all shill for big chocolate 🍫 all in favor?

[manic torrent]

I love slave Labor!

[fierce moth]

nah fuck that

[north escarp]

Bro don't remind me I got v day chocolate hidden I keep trying not to eat it

[fierce moth]

big bread is where its at

[north escarp]

[whole swallow]

extra T H I C C loaf

[dreamy rose]

i don't lie.

you clearly do. you lie to yourself that you need Nvidia.

most do. its the nature of looking at PCs. i'm just past lying to myself

[gleaming harbor]

what countries has the best bread

[dreamy rose]

turkey. no doubt turkish bread is the fucking BOMB. so goated.

[whole swallow]

Yanno I think I gotta give it to Italy tbh

[manic torrent]

Lol what the fuck. I lie to myself and think there might be a future where society doesn't collapse and the climate doesn't get ruined. NVIDIA is not of any concern.

[whole swallow]

turkish bread eh?

[dreamy rose]

fuck yeah lad turkish bread, ever had turkish bread?

[bright silo]

Like it or not Nvidia does help make our technological world go round. We need them.

[dreamy rose]

the same is easily able to be Said for AMD and moreso for AMD.

[fierce moth]

i wont lie, nvidia needs a new pricing team /j

[dreamy rose]

because AMD just does more with less.

[whole swallow]

I have not but this Bazlama stuff looks rad

[manic torrent]

No, the pricing team are all getting their bonuses

[vapid zephyr]

Of course, except all the things where it doesn't

[vapid zephyr]

But shhh, nobody needs to know that

[fierce moth]

AMD are complete dickheads when it comes to places where they have no competition, like HEDT

and its a shame that you need HEDT for a shit ton of PCIE lanes

[dreamy rose]

AMD competing against Intel and Nvidia while being like 20% the size of Nvidia.

and no shut up. the high end ISN'T the competition

[vapid zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1202635733639241839/chrome_tN1L65zy0L.png?ex=65d7674e&is=65c4f24e&hm=40fd8f6237a0dc5b1c866c7b6a3c00dea6d4a736630e629f869571b2c5dfaf26&

Peak AMD experience

[dreamy rose]

literally windows

[vapid zephyr]

Ah yes, I can.. smell the competition

[fierce moth]

i wonder whats in the other section

[vapid zephyr]

Good question actually

[fierce moth]

people still running voodoo cards? /j

[vapid zephyr]

Seems like this is it?

[fierce moth]

i have never heard of that company

[dreamy rose]

MFs when the price.

[fierce moth]

me with a used card

[vapid zephyr]

Chinese company

[fierce moth]

makes sense

[vapid zephyr]

Their shit is old, there's literally no documentation of them releasing new stuff after 2007

[fierce moth]

interesting

[jaunty compass]

That's called being a public company

No company is your friend and if they don't have competition, they will squeeze you

[vapid zephyr]

That doesn't make it any less awful kek

[jaunty compass]

No, it doesn't; but it's a reminder that corporations aren't your friend

[sick coral]

i wish gpus being under 1000$ was the norm again

[dreamy rose]

honestly same. hopefully RDNA 4 sets that trend with the 8800XT

[long briar]

you wish

Keep dreaming, sweet summer child

For as long as AMD is trying to compete with Nvidia, the prices will also stay high

It has never worked out for amd

[vapid zephyr]

I meaaan

It did with 6000 series

Then they released whatever abomination 7000 series is

[long briar]

Vega 64 was their answer to the 1080 and was sold at a loss in order to get any cards out the door. Then the 1080ti came at a higher price and it didn't matter that it was higher

[long briar]

they did it halfway. They caught up in raster, and can charge less for the same raster perf as Nvidia. But then you get into literally anything but raster and they still got catchup

7000 series did not help with that

[fierce moth]

then again, literally every game still uses raster

[long briar]

So if all you do is game, AMD all the way

unless you're trying to do RT

[fierce moth]

personally RT doesnt appeal to me

[long briar]

And if Cuda, Tensor and Nvenc don't either, then there's almost no reason to go Nvidia

[fierce moth]

i still rock my 1080

such a good card imo

[long briar]

ok again, Vega 64 tried to compete with 1080

and it did, 100 bucks less than 1080 for the same raster

but then you also had terrible efficiency and the Vega 64 was sold at a loss

and if cuda came into play, vega64 was just worse

exact same argument. if you only care about raster, AMD makes a ton of sense since its cheaper. If you care about anything other than raster, then you don't really have a choice but to go Nvidia

and 1080ti was a kneejerk reaction to the huge claims that vega64 had... which was quite literally the definition of an overreaction cause it also made most of the 20 series irrelevant

5700xt was also hyped and the 1080ti handled that one as well

[true horizon]

ok man so look, i got a budget of 1810$ for everything, including monitor and few other peripherals

i want to go with amd because i want to upgrade in future, and am5 is the best option

[long briar]

In datacenters?

[dreamy rose]

that budget is more than likely gonna accomodate the 7800XT over the supers.

[true horizon]

alr then what do you think fits, I game, video edit and possibly start streaming as well, im going to buy a new pc with amd based processor (mostly am5 socket), i need to fit a good 1440p monitor with 144hz atleast and good colour accuracy for editing, for me right now, amd just does it good comparing to nvidia, if i take any 3000 series cards i wont be benifitted with new features like av1 and so on which i will be using in future(i will need atleast 3-4 years of upgrade path with is only possible with amd)

[long briar]

AMD for cpu is great

[true horizon]

true, can you help me list out the parts? ill mostly game but do editing and streaming as well for youtube or twich, and possibly use blender and so on for my college purpose in future

[dreamy rose]

if you are planning on using AV1 then NVENC has no benefiet, the problems is that AV1 isn;t everywhere

[long briar]

What software are you trying to use

[true horizon]

premiere, blender, and probably photoshop as well

[long briar]

Cuda acceleration is still better than anything AMD offers atm with exception of Davinci resolve Studio

[dreamy rose]

blender is pretty not fly with AMD. but if its barely a priority it won't matter as much.

[long briar]

okay you're still better off with Nvidia, like a 4070 super or the like

[true horizon]

which benifit by nvidia but eh, i will game alot so i need more raster performance than those few extra mins saved

[long briar]

Raster gaming priority?

[true horizon]

no, for now blender isnt a priority and neither will i die for not saving few mins

[dreamy rose]

so yeah, the Radeon will take you further than that Super for less money.

[long briar]

I'm not a fan of the 7800XT, it's a fast card but aside from AV1, it's worse than the 6800xt in almost every way

[true horizon]

yeah, the budget wont fit nvidia right

[dreamy rose]

the 4070 super is 500 is it not?

[true horizon]

i might possiblity take atleast 2more months, who knows if more price drops

[long briar]

it can, but only by sacrificing some raster for the other features

[dreamy rose]

oh right probably not since all the models are above MSRP

[true horizon]

see this is where im really getting confused for, before i could blindly take nvidia for features but amd is catching up

[long briar]

I've gotten em for around 550

[dreamy rose]

yuck.

[vapid smelt]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4070-super-gv-n407swf3oc-12gd/p/N82E16814932683

[dreamy rose]

that means the 7800XT is gonna be a winner then

[true horizon]

gaming isnt the only thing ill be doing, at the same time i dont want to compromise features for just games

[long briar]

If raster perf is priority yes, but only because AV1 was required

cause uh, 6800XT is faster than the 7800XT

[dreamy rose]

600? yeah don't bother with that thing

[vapid smelt]

why not

[dreamy rose]

not worth 120% the price

[long briar]

7800XT is cheaper by a bit

[dreamy rose]

plus he has the budget set you know

[long briar]

wait what's the budget again

also @true horizon do you have a pcpp list yet

[cedar phoenix]

i made a build with similar requirements dunno if it suits you (note that im new to pc building so this probably could be improved)
CPU - r5 7600
GPU - RX7800xt 16gb
MB - gigabyte b650 aorus elite ax
RAM - gskill ripjaws 6000mhz 16x2 gb
PSU - deepcool pm750d gold
cooler - noctua nh d15 chromax black
storage - WD 2tb black sn770 gen4 m.2 ssd

[vapid smelt]

the cost per frame is super close to the 7800xt

[dreamy rose]

1810

[long briar]

7800XT doesn't exist at MSRP anymore, it's so shit of a card at msrp it's usually found cheaper iirc

[dreamy rose]

guessing USD

[long briar]

wait that fits a 4070 super just fine

[vapid smelt]

nope still around msrp

[dreamy rose]

450 isn't a bad price for the thing. its just that RDNA 2 exists.

[long briar]

oh hell nah

nah nah nah

don't buy a 7800xt at msrp

[dreamy rose]

would still rather pay the 500 than the 600.

[cedar phoenix]

how is this build

[long briar]

for less performance in literally every regard?

[dreamy rose]

it seems pretty alright

[dreamy rose]

its 80% The goddamn price

[long briar]

If you don't need AV1, get a 6800xt instead

[long briar]

he has the budget for a 4070 super

[dreamy rose]

which he neither needs to get. or should get, because an extra 100-150 can go a longer way spent on else

no reason to pay Nvidia tax

[long briar]

so you lose 5% of the budget to gain 15% more performance

[long briar]

He's running premiere.

[dreamy rose]

occasionally.

RAdeon isn't sit for premere anyway

[true horizon]

yes i do (im going with white theme, dont judge)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[dreamy rose]

in some ways its a better experience when you are editing videos on radeon in general

[long briar]

ur right. 4070ti definitely doesn't perform as well as the xtx

[true horizon]

if i can easily get 20% performance benifit, i wont really change the theme (usually white color parts cost bit extra $)

[long briar]

(it does)

[long briar]

blank list, get the rest of the link

[dreamy rose]

not blank for me

[true horizon]

wait what, one sec

[dreamy rose]

where is your case? are you building in a case you already own?

[true horizon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RyyDKX

[dreamy rose]

what about Thermal Paste?

[long briar]

you're probably looking at a different list you made urself lmfao

[dreamy rose]

no. literally not

just clicked on it and it showed up

[true horizon]

mate i sent a empty list, im sure your looking at a wrong one
visit this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RyyDKX

[long briar]

Fuckwit.

[dreamy rose]

bruh it is a different list fucking PCPP.

[true horizon]

i think im spending abit too much for mobo

[long briar]

it's the one you had edited last

[dreamy rose]

yeah, maybe go for something a little cheaper.

you don't need to spend 200+ on a mobo

say fuck it to the white motherboard if you have to. its unnessasary.

[long briar]

Motherboard seems a little excessive yea, as for the CPU it's great for gaming but actually performs worse than the 7700x in productivity due to lower clocks

nonetheless it's fine

[dreamy rose]

you could probably throw a bit more at a boot drive and more SSD space too.

[long briar]

white 4070 super is gonna be hard

[dreamy rose]

small boot drive, maybe a 256GB, then something like a 2tb.

4tb if you can fit it in

[dreamy rose]

literally doesn't need to go for the 4070S but okay

[true horizon]

i got a 1tb hard disk but you are right, im mostly gonna give this pc to my father or repurpose it so yeah, i should go for cheaper mobo

how does x670 a asus sound

[long briar]

Why not?

5% of the budget, more than 15% faster

[true horizon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RMLFf7/asus-prime-x670-p-atx-am5-motherboard-prime-x670-p

[dreamy rose]

mmm. a HDD might not be very nice in modern day. especially for games, games like Ratchet and Clank are already showing that the aging tech is literally becoming obsolete right before our eyes.

[long briar]

Asus boards this generation don't have great vrm efficiency and use a dated design, but you're also drawing not that much power so it should be okay

If you're not going white, any motherboard would do. https://wccftech.com/asrock-110-us-b650-motherboard-sets-overclocking-world-record-amd-ryzen-9-7950x-cpu/amp/
this was hilarious

[true horizon]

thing is i really want to try for white theme, if i can get a whole different gpu which is better than what im going for with black theme, screw it ill go for the extra performance

[true horizon]

yeah true, ill update the list abit

[long briar]

Black is kinda the defacto colour for hardware

so it's also the cheapest. The cheapest white card is 20 bucks more

[true horizon]

i know

[long briar]

okay which peripherals are you also getting in that budget

lets pick those first

[fierce moth]

if you want something white just paint it lmao

[true horizon]

this should fit right?https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBwypg/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aorus-elite-ax

[long briar]

For monitor: Are you going to get a calibrator

WAIT are you anywhere near a microcenter

[dreamy rose]

linu did a video of that like, 8 years ago

[true horizon]

right now, im defo going to get a keyboard, headphone and monitor upgrade, keyboard can wait, but headphone will need an upgrade

[dreamy rose]

yeayea the combo at MC

[true horizon]

bro i live in india, but yes i do live very close to a market place, i can possiblity get great deals

[dreamy rose]

awww

[long briar]

Oh shit

the market is completely different there...

[true horizon]

yeah, but prices are same

[long briar]

are they?

[true horizon]

yep, also you get some freebies if you buy from a same shop, sometimes even a whole 5-10% discount or a complimentary(freebie)

[long briar]

dang alright then

[true horizon]

so i need a good 1440p monitor with good color accuracy and 144hz 1ms (for gaming)

[dreamy rose]

a freebie that would help me RN is a 2.5 inch 1TB SSD. get me off this dated ass SATA 2 Spinpoint POS

[true horizon]

and i also need a good headphones, keyboard can wait however

[long briar]

Are you planning to get any kind of colour calibration tool?

headphones are gonna be a pain in the ass

[true horizon]

no

[long briar]

If you actually want good, it's not gonna play well with the budget

[true horizon]

i can extend the budget or buy keyboard and headphones later on

[dreamy rose]

do they stock the HyperX Cloud Mixes there?

[long briar]

I assume you want srgb accuracy? or DCIP3/Display P3

[true horizon]

yes, i do want dp3

honestly i would do anything to get out of this shitbox(i still love this pc) (specs -
i7 3770
gt 730 2gig vram
16gb ram
256gb ssd (sata)
1tb hdd
some weird lg monitor {flatron e2242})

[true horizon]

before i used to have i3 3220, 8gig ram

[long briar]

The monitor is the hard part since every market has different models

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KnCB9c

[long briar]

a good, cheap p3 display can be hard to come by

[true horizon]

ill reasearch it out, for now pc

[dreamy rose]

still better than mine

[long briar]

They wanted a white theme, for some reason

[cedar phoenix]

"for some reason"

[long briar]

looks, ofc lmao

[dreamy rose]

its a want, not a need, so it can, CAN be ignored. but unsure of how set they are on it

[true horizon]

lets leave out 300-350$ for monitor

[true horizon]

im a male, but yeah its a want, if i get more performance with black theme im down for it

[true horizon]

nah, too expensive, need atleast 300$ for monitor

[true horizon]

can agree (it was worse before)

[long briar]

it has a monitor in the list.

[dreamy rose]

it'd be cause it saves on the extra spent not on the paint

[true horizon]

my bad

[long briar]

Coopa's list is what I'd have recommended aside from the mouse and maybe the monitor

monitor is SRGB and does not cover anywhere near enough of the P3 colour space

[dreamy rose]

i'm on a 2nd gen i5 and a GT 540M.

[true horizon]

i already have a new g402, dont need that, you sure you can cool a r7 x3d with a air cooler?

[dreamy rose]

i have a 7970 on standby and a 780 on me that i may as well let go.

[true horizon]

oh man im sorry, that is painful to even imagine

[long briar]

7800x3d draws less than 100w

[dreamy rose]

i've been making ppl imagine since 2020 by listing my specs.

[long briar]

you could actually cool it using a single tower. but it's also not much more expensive for a dual tower so why not

[dreamy rose]

i only got the thing in 2019, it was 7 at the time now its 12

[true horizon]

prior to 2023 i had i3 3220, 8 gig ram and intigrated graphics with 1tb hdd 5200 rpm

[dreamy rose]

mfg date was literally 29/1/2012

[true horizon]

i had this pc from 2014

[long briar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fwpdfy
also the motherboard doesn't have a price on that one, so here's one with an equivalent priced board as the asrock I would reocmmend B650M-HDV/M.2

[true horizon]

ill be honest, micro atx SUCKS for upgradablity

[dreamy rose]

i got a school laptop which has a Pentium silver N5000 last year. Shit CPU but the iGPU beats my 540M.

[true horizon]

i see

[long briar]

It's fine?

[true horizon]

💀

[dreamy rose]

yeah. no good

[true horizon]

nah i never feel micro atx is good for decent upgradablity path

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BjgYh3 $1810

[long briar]

Grats

[dreamy rose]

why the 4070 super?

thought he said the 7800XT

[vapid smelt]

and the 4070 super is a less hungry 6950xt in raster so why not

[fierce moth]

nvenc is a blessing for video editors

[dreamy rose]

that doesn't mean he's set with a 4070S. he wants gaming first.

he picked the 7800XT. honour that.

[vapid smelt]

and its faster then a 7800xt

[dreamy rose]

for more money

[vapid smelt]

and its in budget sooooo

[dreamy rose]

which is not what was asked for

they picked RDNA 3, so just honor it

its not hard.

[vapid smelt]

no

[fierce moth]

cope

[vapid smelt]

its better for gaming and video editing so why not

[dreamy rose]

the only one coping here is the ones shoving the Nvidias in his face

[fierce moth]

mate

[fresh vector]

It's OK let it go, let them take the L

[fierce moth]

we are providing valid alternatives

[dreamy rose]

which wasn't asked for. it was asked which one to go for. he picked. he picked the radeon. don't shove the Nvidia in his face. simple

[true horizon]

ill be honest, they are providing decent alternatives

nividia is mainly known for other features like editing and all, so they arent too wrong or too off

[vapid smelt]

more fps less power big W 4070 super

[dreamy rose]

hes claiming your main purpouse is video editing yet providing you with a CPU optimised for gaming which makes it worse for productivity

[vapid smelt]

[dreamy rose]

did you forget what X3D means?

[vapid smelt]

so we should go with a 7800xt just because the 7800x3d is a gaming cpu?

[fresh vector]

What is X3D have to do with gpu

[dreamy rose]

who said anything about GPU? i'm talking about the CPU.

[vapid smelt]

i dont understand your mental gymnastics bionic

[fresh vector]

Why are u taking about cpu.

I thought this is 7800xt vs 4070 super

[vapid smelt]

build is in budget , build maxes out performance for both task of gaming and video editing

[dreamy rose]

puh. lease. you're scraping the bottom of the barrel here mate.

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[true horizon]

ok so what do you think of this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k7gYh3

[dreamy rose]

at least i'm making sense here.

[vapid smelt]

no you are not

[fresh vector]

No u are not

[fierce moth]

numbers are numbers, go with the 4070 super if it fits in the budget @true horizon

[dreamy rose]

sure am.

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVyDKX better?

[true horizon]

you rekon i should go with regular r7 and go for nvidia?

[dreamy rose]

wrong GPU

[dreamy rose]

no

[vapid smelt]

right gpu is faster in every work load and game he will use

[fierce moth]

@true horizon more cores

could be important if you play a game like cities skylines

[true horizon]

man calm down its okay xd, you kinda seem like amd fanboy, they arent worng, they are trying to suggest nvidia cause my work load consists of both gaming and editing, which nivida satisfies

[fierce moth]

that game loves any core it can get

[true horizon]

i do like that game but i dont play it, i only majorly watch it

[vapid smelt]

he is a super amd fanboy he dies on this hill every time its brought up

[fresh vector]

Multithread 7900 is better gaming 7800x3d is better rest looks good

[true horizon]

okay okay no need to fight

[true horizon]

also the reason why im picking atx mobo is they have more expansion slots, which i want to put to use in future

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVyDKX if your majority of use for the pc is video editing and such , https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BjgYh3 if it will mostly be used for gaming

[true horizon]

mostly gaming, i think ill retain with r7, do you rekon we have a chance with atx mobo?

[vapid smelt]

you ok with orange? 😛

[vapid smelt]

it wont be white but yes

[vapid smelt]

what peripherals do you need btw i just assued keyboard

[fierce moth]

they indicated monitor, and mouse iirc

[true horizon]

ok try

[true horizon]

just keyboard and headphones if possible, monitor must (27inch, good color accuracy, 144hz atleast and 1440p monitor with 1ms)

[true horizon]

do NOTE i will buy this pc mid summer, like during end of march or mid april

[vapid smelt]

i can fit a keyboard with the pc for $1830 1777 without it

[rocky reef]

Guys opinion on Ryzen 5500

[steel marsh]

5600 is better

[vapid smelt]

pretty bad

[crisp notch]

i know one ryzen, ryzen 5

[steel marsh]

dont buy a 5500

[indigo plume]

anyone getting crashes with hell divers 2

[crisp notch]

is a i5 11400F better?

[steel marsh]

idk look at reviews ?

[crisp notch]

ight

[steel marsh]

theres also the 13400f

[vapid smelt]

@true horizon i could fit alot more into the budget if your ok with a black power supply and mother board

[steel marsh]

and the 14th gen one

[vapid smelt]

i3 12100f is

[polar fern]

https://tech.lgbt/@Natasha_Jay/111904629857435283

[true horizon]

okay, thats absolutely fine, you can even go black and white theme if you can fit alot more stuff
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6qyDKX this is my current list so far, what do you think

[crisp notch]

oh ok

[rocky reef]

It's like the cheapest cpu I can get that fits an am4 socket

[crisp notch]

comedy

[true horizon]

real

[steel marsh]

buy a 5600

[true horizon]

dont go for a am4 honestly, it no longer has future upgrade path, but if you just need a pc right now for gaming then sure its fine

[rocky reef]

Is $238.05 worth it lol

[rocky reef]

Oh

[steel marsh]

if your on a budget like am4 or or intel is fine

[rocky reef]

I am a complete noob especially with Intel naming

[steel marsh]

you could go am5 but it will cost allot more

[true horizon]

what do you wanna buy your pc for

[rocky reef]

Budget gaming for stuff like assetto genshin FFXIV etc

[true horizon]

so more of AAA gaming? yk like not fps shooter or esport grade gaming, nothing much else?

[rocky reef]

Yeah not fps or competitive

[true horizon]

in that case go for ryzen 5 7500 with rt 7600xt or a previous gen nivida 3000 series or 6000(amd) series with 16 gigs of ram

[rocky reef]

Could I go a little bit cheaper? I'm trying not to exceed a $1000 rn

[true horizon]

see, you absolutely can go with that am4 that you are seeing right now, but in future you wont be able to swap out a cpu for a quick and neat upgrade, you would have to buy new mobo ram and cpu combo

[rocky reef]

Ah I get it now thankss

Wait am5 means ddr5 memory right

[true horizon]

yes
this is the pcpartpicker list made by someone else, it fits you, (ive edited it to remove windows 11 key) -
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dGc228

[rocky reef]

Thank you👍

[true horizon]

yep, your welcome, it has everything to match out for your gaming

[rocky reef]

Just a question tho how much longer will ddr4 be viable for?

[crystal pike]

I mean it shouldn't really be a cause of concern

[true horizon]

one sec, it doesnt have a gpu in the budget

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6gxhTY https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/acer/nitro-xv272u-kvbmiiprzx changed the monitor to one thats more color accurate, then the rest is basically same performance for less money

[true horizon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/72LW6D
this has everything included, make sure you do abit more research before you select out the parts that is listed here, try seeing few more vids before finalising the list

[rocky reef]

Ook

[rocky reef]

O

[crystal pike]

the headphones are open back?

[vapid smelt]

yes

[crystal pike]

damn

[true horizon]

alr thanks man

[crystal pike]

Ready to be abused for another 2 years

[stark panther]

Benchmarking in cinebech r23

[tender geyser]

its that time

[wispy marsh]

Hello

[fierce moth]

gday

[jaunty cove]

How do you search for ur own posts

[wispy marsh]

Remove from: and click on the filter button on the right

from: only works on this button

[jaunty cove]

Yea I was gonna say there is no filter option on this one

[jaunty cove]

So what do I click first from or in

[wispy marsh]

Product limitation

I don't see a way to search forum channels

[full fossil]

@stark panther

[jaunty cove]

Hey I have that cpu too

[full fossil]

Show us your results!! I'm messing with my bios to squeeze the most performance out of it

[jaunty cove]

Oh I don't do overclocking if that's what ur doing but I'll run a test on that later

[full fossil]

Ok

[elfin solar]

Just shows how good the v-cache is for games.

[paper sun]

hi

[wispy marsh]

I picked up Potion Permit on iOS. The font size is ridiculous: it's made for ants.

It's also nowhere as polished as Stardew.

I'm putting it down just for the font size and mobile controls alone.

[gleaming harbor]

stardew valley vs terraria

[eternal hearth]

calm vs dating simulator

[stark panther]

ik but minis getting to hot

[full fossil]

hi

[jade prawn]

heyhey can someone link me a guide on installing win10 without bloat?

iirc there was also a way to make updates less frequent

[wise tundra]

Just setup my router to run speedtest every hour :3

Going to gather a fuck ton of data and then make a huge Calc sheet on how reliable the internet here is

The real reason tho is that the internet here dies every now and then and the ISP always says "We don't see any issues on our end, just factory reset the modem"

[prime crest]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1602223137179819/

Is gud deal right?

Ftw3 3090 for 500

[spice pine]

that sets off my “if it seems to good to be true” senses

[prime crest]

Got benches an everthing

It's real. Our hero js doesn't like the tiny mispainted shroud plate that's unremovable

[spice pine]

3090s go for at least like $800 though

that seems incredibly sus

[kindred tangle]

No more gummy bears with amd cpus? 🥺🥺

[tacit ruin]

bros temps are gonna be pushing 100

[calm gyro]

Does anyone have a relitivly new Macbook if yes can you tell my if the keys are meant to be polished to a mirror finish

i forgot its been so long since i bought my macbook

[tacit ruin]

are they not just black

[calm gyro]

i would like to show but my 1220€ iPhone refuses to connect to any wifi or network

[calm gyro]

well yuh shiny black now

[spice pine]

sounds like you should get it checked out under the manufacturer's warranty

[tacit ruin]

my iphone x ended up just not being able to use cellular

[calm gyro]

its just in this hotel

[tacit ruin]

like it was fully disabled

[calm gyro]

also mb it was just 1200

the brick was 20€ aswell

[tacit ruin]

y would u buy an apple brick

[calm gyro]

cuz cool

[tacit ruin]

anker cooler and faster

[calm gyro]

meh

but ye my keys are shiny as heck

[tacit ruin]

put switches in ur mac

[dark urchin]

What age y'all think someone is if they use 😂 instead of 💀

[calm gyro]

idk

24

more mature

💀

[sharp bobcat]

it depends

[steel marsh]

i dunno

[sharp bobcat]

I've seen some ppl that are 30s + using both

[steel marsh]

im gunna be 30 soon

[agile siren]

Bro imagine being 30 💀

[steel marsh]

it will happen to you

im 28 this year

[calm gyro]

see ppl using skull are just inmature as hail

[spice pine]

https://tenor.com/view/grampa-simpson-gif-19674842

[calm gyro]

bruh who tf just reacted with a skull 💀

[agile siren]

me 💀

[harsh quartz]

I think anyone who asks this question is like 15 max

[calm gyro]

so inmature 💀

im 15

[steel marsh]

stay in school

[wispy marsh]

[calm gyro]

man my grades are booty

and im on the most basic lvl of education here

[harsh quartz]

Stay in drugs, don’t do school, and listen to your mother

[strange elk]

Is there a competent gpu comparison chart? i have someone using userbenchmark and the 6600 is apparently jsut the better option according to them

[wispy marsh]

Stay in yo momma, don't do drugs, and listen to school.

Alright that was offensive

[calm gyro]

lmao

[calm gyro]

how

[wispy marsh]

Just like yo momma

[calm gyro]

i see

[wispy marsh]

It's not a good time for me to be awake

[calm gyro]

idk

its the evening

[wispy marsh]

It's past midnight

[harsh quartz]

It’s technically always past midnight

Except for when it is midnight, of course

[calm gyro]

i mean he aint wrong

[calm gyro]

sleep then

[calm gyro]

or she

or they

or idk smth inbetween or behond

[wispy marsh]

I'm about to, I'm going to have a shower and then maybe lie in bed.

[calm gyro]

oki

slighty shiny macbook keys

[prime crest]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-poop-shit-worse-than-monday-funny-eject-gif-12879783

[chrome vector]

https://tenor.com/view/full-house-gif-12394041022375616953

[brisk barn]

hi

[short umbra]

hi

[gilded quest]

That livery is beautiful

American needs to go back to the old style

[calm gyro]

yuh

that that regulations say nuh uh

because a plane that reflective is a nuh uh now

[gilded quest]

Rip

Southwest also needs to go back to the brown livery

[granite mountain]

hii

[errant basin]

bonjour

[tender echo]

hey can someone help me

my task manager is saying my wifi card is taking in over 100 mbps up to 200 but my download speed on the xbox app is only like 8 mbps

[graceful burrow]

Microsoft servers suck
Also the Xbox app is probably showing you megabytes a second and task manager is showing megabits a second

So that actually kinda adds up

[tender echo]

well i mean i was also updating valorant and it was on like 3

[graceful burrow]

100 megabits is roughly 10 megabytes
Other things take internet so it's probably around 80 megabits for Xbox and 20 for other

[tender echo]

i have been having wifi problems so

[graceful burrow]

🤷‍♂️

[tender echo]

is there anyway to fix taht

[graceful burrow]

Get an ethernet cable

[tender echo]

yeah that cant happen

[graceful burrow]

Sucks to suck

Wifi blows

[fierce moth]

12.5 to be specific

[graceful burrow]

Isn't it 12.8

[fierce moth]

If you ever want a megabit value in megabyte, divide by 8

[fierce moth]

That's what Google says

[vapid zephyr]

1 Megabit = 0.125 Megabytes

[graceful burrow]

I hate megabits

[fierce moth]

Could of been rounded down though

[graceful burrow]

They're too confusing for newbies

[tender echo]

nvm yall

i was on 2.4 ghz instead of 5

[old yacht]

ayo?

[graceful burrow]

Ah it was a literal skill issue
Many such cases

[sharp bobcat]

s u m m o n e d

[silver sun]

54

[graceful burrow]

69 is gonna be nuts

[barren island]

Do yall think I could get a good build for like 750US?

[old yacht]

i always get summoned to 9/11 jokes

[tepid jasper]

define good

you can have a competent build for 750US

good is subjective

and defined by your use case

[full fossil]

My 7800x3d is pulling near 100w under a stress test load...should I be concerned?

Apparently it's fine till like 120w so I should be good right??