public-chat

[dull granite]

why are you so fixated on nuclear bombs

[wind pulsar]

Hachiko is pretty much my favorite movie, I admit

[echo ridge]

no

[limpid hamlet]

Hm

[dull granite]

ok

[full fossil]

imagine getting the smoke so bad a mod has to help you

hitman 3 is such a good game

[jaunty compass]

I had something I was going to say in response to this but it's a bit too political I think💀

[molten drift]

I need to go buy a DVD of all the air bud movies....

[dull granite]

DVD!?!?

[molten drift]

I doubt their on blu-ray

[gilded quest]

they're*

[molten drift]

Thanks

[wind pulsar]

Hahaha I so funni omg

[summer folio]

60 EU top-politicians is meeting at the 100 year old steam power station in Västerås Sweden 27-28 march, now made into a hotell. The more u know!

[finite cloud]

Vapor Deck?

[wind pulsar]

Can you not reply to me with something political, thx br

[summer folio]

was it really "political" tho?

[faint jetty]

Is there any intel experts here that know much about lga1700/13th gen ballmaps?

[wind pulsar]

You're a weirdo in general, I'll just block you, lol

[summer folio]

[finite cloud]

So you have met our mutual friend here

[wind pulsar]

He's posted some weird shit, of course I did

I'm not the only one that knows either

[finite cloud]

Yeah, I’ve known him a while too and he does this a lot

[dull granite]

wha

[lucid echo]

what

[summer folio]

Akira posted a "joke" about steam deck

[lucid echo]

go on

[summer folio]

I was just being real

[lucid echo]

elaborate

[summer folio]

leaves

[lucid echo]

okay

so many questions

[summer folio]

I just thought information about a steam technology hotell meeting room next week in Westeros was on the subject

[lucid echo]

it really is not at all on the subject

[summer folio]

Get it? Steam?

🚂 🧖‍♀️

[lucid echo]

okay...

[summer folio]

Maybe it's an generational thingy, 30+ boomer here.

[lucid echo]

I'm pretty close to that too, don't think you can blame it on that. Was it supposed to be a joke or something? Is there any connection beyond the word "steam"?

[molten drift]

It has nothing to do with the topic.

[lucid echo]

This is fascinating

[molten drift]

And 30+ is not boomer....

[lucid echo]

They turned 30 yesterday which is hardly 30+ too

[summer folio]

[idle nymph]

Public chat being idk what the fuck is happening im leaving

[molten drift]

Espically as 64' is the last of boomer time

[lucid echo]

yeah, never ceases to amaze me

[lucid echo]

I think they meant metaphorical boomer

The way kids use it

[idle nymph]

Boomer? The zombie From l4d?

[lucid echo]

Yep that's the one

[summer folio]

Just a heads up, the super fast 🦔 name is spelled "Sonic" & not "Sanic".
You're welcome!

[idle nymph]

Nice i didnt know boomer were real, wait BOOMER ARE REAL ? SHIT

[lucid echo]

Ah okay, thanks for letting me know, I was unaware

I see why people block you now

[idle nymph]

Sanic is an famous internet même you dumb shit

[lucid echo]

Don't feed the troll

[idle nymph]

Block Button looking good rn, should i use it for the first time?

[lucid echo]

It's not even toxic, it's just completely detached from context or reality

[molten drift]

I think I may treat my self to a semi frozen treat after work today.

Not sure what flavor of milkshake though

Hmm birthday cake flavor , Oreo or. Just. Vanilla I'm not sure.

[lucid echo]

🍓

[molten drift]

I don't think I've ever tried strawberry shakes.

[sonic barn]

He survived nam go easy on him

This is just an "episode"

[lucid echo]

It's a miracle that I blocked them before you, Iheuzio

[sonic barn]

Block me then I feel left out

Enjoy the void spreading

[lucid echo]

I would miss out on your shit takes tho

[sonic barn]

True

But that's subjectively

[lucid echo]

And I couldn't call you a kid anymore

[graceful burrow]

No it isnt

[sonic barn]

I'm not a kid

If I'm a kid, you're one

[lucid echo]

And then you couldn't insist that you're not a kid

[sonic barn]

When I'm 30 am I still considered a kid

[lucid echo]

A whole cycle would vanish

[limpid fern]

anyne else use their mouse with their left hand?

[lucid echo]

Are you left handed?

[limpid fern]

no

[sonic barn]

I use my teeth

[lucid echo]

I've never heard of anyone use their left hand

Including left-handed ppl

[sonic barn]

how do left handed people type

upsidedown?

[tired glade]

I know a lot of people using left hand like primery hand for everything

[tired glade]

Left handed keyboard and mouse

[limpid fern]

i just got a weird stare from ne of my coworkers

[lucid echo]

kid is a vibe, not an age
If you acted like a kid at 30, like our r2mph friend here, yes you would still be a kid

[hearty spear]

30? Get off my lawn yah whipper snappah. 😛

And I just read this, and it broke my brain a little.

"im useing extrnole gpu as if it is intarnole"

[long briar]

Why are people who call other people kids always like 23

17-23

as an insult, ofc

[limpid fern]

thats very specific kid,

[long briar]

Shut up and go study, kid.

[limpid fern]

i never studies at school let alone work

[tired glade]

Oh, my

[hearty spear]

get off mah lawn, yah whipper snappers

[molten drift]

Offers tkitch a salt water taffy

[limpid fern]

hey i still passed so ooo

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[molten drift]

Enjoy your fellow grandma and grandpa candies with me

[hearty spear]

that shit's good, tho

[molten drift]

Why do you think I'm sharing with you lol.

[limpid fern]

dont have those im my area

[molten drift]

Have you heard of.... Online ordering....

Personaly I'm waiting on my dill pickle hard candy to arrive

[lucid echo]

That's usually the age range I call kids, it makes them sqiurm
Mostly cuz the brain doesn't develop fully until 25, and sometimes, it really shows

[limpid fern]

tkitch shows no results

[hearty spear]

weak, your google fu needs work

[long briar]

issue is that this is the age that uses "kid" as an insult

[limpid fern]

can cnferm, im still as dull as an ulsalted soggy chip

[long briar]

almost as if they're not as much of a baby as the next person

[limpid fern]

i thought tkitch was like a candy, i need rest

[hearty spear]

roflmao

[hearty spear]

I'm way too salty to be candy

[limpid fern]

we have salt water taffy

[lucid echo]

Everyone wants to feel more mature than those around them

King of the rats

I think at a certain point you realize you'll always be a kiddo in the eyes of someone older, and that's fine
Whether you take insult to it is just a matter of maturity

[minor dagger]

Question: Would I get swatted by mods if I asked for tech support in here instead of waiting?

[long briar]

I just realized what your pfp is LOL

[limpid fern]

no

[minor dagger]

cool. HELP!

[lucid echo]

You would get pestered by other users to go back to #1027757333117415424

[long briar]

I thought the stars were eyes and the person's head was a nose and red bow was a mouth

[limpid fern]

people use this chat for tech questins all the time

[minor dagger]

Luckily for me, I have no morals! pls help me #1088193020609974413

[long briar]

ahaha my grandparents be like

But yea they have a point

they always have sm more experience than me, I'm actually a rookie

[lucid echo]

17-23 is that fun period where you're still very much a kid, but "legally" not anymore, so you have this false sense of superiority

[hearty spear]

20ish year olds are ABSOLUTELY still kids

[lucid echo]

Yep, but they will go to great lengths to insist they're not

Just look at @sonic barn

[hearty spear]

they may not be stupid, but they have absolutely NOT had the life experiences to be adults yet

[hearty spear]

sounds like a reason to ranomly DM @sonic barn

[long briar]

well, most don't

I know some rly mature 20ish year olds

[lucid echo]

Exception, not the rule

[long briar]

naturally

Same can be said for a lot of older ppl tho

[hearty spear]

most of them are actually just traumatized

[lucid echo]

And usually it's cuz they were forced to be the adult in the family way earlier than normal

[summer folio]

[hearty spear]

doing training courses at work.
Long series of 30s - 2M long videos.

you can, however, skip to 4 seconds before the end of each video with a click.

[full fossil]

who knows Windows PE

[slate grail]

What's the cheapest but reliable 500GB-1TB+ SSD on Amazon? I just need it for backing up recordings

I could just buy one of these SP 512 3D Nands

But it's 33.99 CAD

[lucid echo]

External or internal?

[minor dagger]

Can anyone help me pls lol #1088193020609974413

[slate grail]

It will be in an external enclosure

[lucid echo]

If you need a reliable backup, consider Backblaze. It's $6US/month per computer and is fully unlimited

[slate grail]

I have a 1TB 2.5" platter drive but it died

I have iDrive

10TB's

But I need things locally

[lucid echo]

Gotcha

[slate grail]

I wonder how long it would take to backup 110GB's over gigabit

[lucid echo]

If it's not the sole backup, really any major SSD brand (Samsung, WD, Crucial, Corsair, Toshiba) will be fine

[slate grail]

I want cheap xD

But not AliExpress cheap

[lucid echo]

Then find a cheap one from them

[slate grail]

Eh SP might be the only thing cheap

I guess I'm looking for something 45-50 CAD

[lucid echo]

Gotta link?

[slate grail]

Hmm?

[lucid echo]

Symmetrical gig or cable?

[slate grail]

Oh, it's Telus

[lucid echo]

Amazon link or elsewhere?

[slate grail]

Amazon would be best

[lucid echo]

Symmetrical gig or only gigabit download?

[slate grail]

Since it's the fastest

[lucid echo]

I'm asking you for the link lol

[slate grail]

Basically symmetrical

https://www.amazon.ca/Silicon-Power-512GB-SSD-A58-Performance/dp/B07LG1PJMH/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1K62Y6J3IEFOY&keywords=ssd&qid=1679517312&sprefix=ssd%2Caps%2C136&sr=8-6 this is 512

To be clear, I'm not using this to boot my PC; I already have a bunch of SSDs

I just know that 1TB SSDs are basically on par price, to platter drives

[lucid echo]

Yeah that should be fine

[lucid echo]

110GB is 880 gigabits, so assuming full speed, backup would take about 15 minutes. More likely an hour since smaller files are parsed slower and the server may not match your local speed

[hearty spear]

1GB = 10 Seconds
6GB = 1 Minute
360GB = 1 Hr

(Assuming the media at both ends can sustain 100MB/s read and write)

[slate grail]

Backing up all my stuff to iDrive now

[keen edge]

What’s the best place to shop for parts in Australia

[slate grail]

Check PCPartPicker

[hearty spear]

@manic torrent

[slate grail]

You know what maybe it'll be better to just pay the iDrive yearly

[stoic beacon]

I've wondered for Backblaze's standard backup stuff, do they let you download individual folders/files if necessary? Or is that exclusive to B2?

[lucid echo]

Yes the personal plan allows individual downloads

[dull tapir]

gulikit or 8bitdo for pc

guys

[stoic beacon]

Ah, I may have to look into it more then. Was thinking about doing all backup through NAS, but $7/month doesn't sound bad at all

[lucid echo]

There are steps involved - It's not as simple as something like GDrive to download, but it's straightforward

Essentially you have a checkbox list of the folders/files you wanna download and it provides it to you in one big zip

[stoic beacon]

I bought one of those KingKong Pro 2 controllers that LTT reviewed, and it's exceptional

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I could live with that

[slate grail]

I like my GameSir X2 BT one

[lucid echo]

It's slick. Never had any issues snagging downloads
I think versions past 30 days cost extra? That might be the business plan

[slate grail]

I finally was able to get my Moga Pro Power to work as well

[stoic beacon]

I don't think I need any file versioning necessarily, though I could see ransomware being a threat to that

[dull tapir]

nice i hear people really like it since it has different technology for analog sticks so less stick drift i hear kong and ultimate are both popular like i read kong has much better better build and shape but ultimate has better software and lesser latency because it cames with dongle and other stuff

[stoic beacon]

I've just been wanting to beef up cybersecurity and data security in general, what with all of the garbage that's been happening in the last few months/years

[lucid echo]

Yeah backblaze is the gold standard

[dull tapir]

idk why but all controllers interfere with my mouse and keyboard when i have steam open and press home button my pc goes insane and i turned off all settings on steam for controller input

[lucid echo]

Only an issue if you have lots of computers or want to use linux

[stoic beacon]

And so my monthly subscription cost rises again....

[lucid echo]

(though apparently they have a consumer linux plan now)

[stoic beacon]

Eh, all of the stuff that's important to me is on one Windows computer, with duplicate copies on two external hard drives, and all the REALLY important stuff on OneDrive as well

But it's a lot to manage.

I'd rather have it be fairly automatic so that I don't get lazy and stop doing the manual backups

[lucid echo]

Yeah it's solid for mindless automated backup

The only other hitch I can think of is you NEED to have the computer on & backing up at least once a month

After 30 days they start emailing you that your computer is outside the backup window and they'll start deleting your data a while after that

[stoic beacon]

It's on all the time anyways, either rendering something or being used, so that'll be alright with me

[stoic beacon]

Oh....so if something goes wrong with the computer, I have 30 days to download everything to another computer?

[lucid echo]

Not sure the reasoning, but they give you tons of warnings and chance to have a drive shipped to you / files to download

[lucid echo]

No I think it's closer to 2 or 3 months. 30 days is when the warnings start

But as I mentioned, no download needed, they'll ship a hard drive for free

(as long as you return it, otherwise you'll pay for the drive itself)

[stoic beacon]

Ah, that's not too bad then. I've already got it installed and running the first backup, so we'll see how it goes

My system tray is....very full now. They redesigned it in the last Windows update, and now it makes it look like I have even more things running

Backblaze pushed out yet another row

[lucid echo]

Lmao

[stoic beacon]

There are 31 icons in there, sweet jesus

OneDrive, Google Drive, Parsec, Everything Search, Flux, Unchecky, Zoom, Teams, Powertoys, Backblaze, and a bunch of other stuff. I didn't even realize it was so full because I haven't opened it in a long time. Backblaze is one of the first programs that hasn't defaulted to just going in the box, and it wanted to sit in my taskbar

[lucid echo]

Bro

Surely you don't need all that running, let alone in the app tray

You can disable their visiblity

[stoic beacon]

I really don't, I just need to do a deep clean on the computer

Some things I can't remove because I need them for work, but some of them I really don't need anymore

[lucid echo]

Hell, there's a builtin Flux alternative

Unless you really like that slow transition

[stoic beacon]

No, I've just had it on here for...maybe 8 years now? Whenever Windows 10 first came out

Installed it, forgot about it

[lucid echo]

Oh my

[stoic beacon]

Yup, found the setting in Windows...flux can go away now

[lucid echo]

I know it's basically a meme to suggest it in #1027757333117415424 but you'd really benefit from a full windows reinstall

[manic torrent]

scorptec

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I perform one on my other PC every 6 months or so, this one just has so much stuff on it, I've been afraid of what would break

You're right though, it's time to put in the work

Don't even need Unchecky, I manually comb through installers anyways

[lucid echo]

Ninite is bae

https://ninite.com/

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, I have a nice Ninite set up for that other PC

I wish it could handle a lot of the other programs I use

I tried making a custom one to install programs that aren't included on that list, but it never worked quite right because the installs were always different. Adobe, Affinity, Autodesk, Epic, all their software downloads move around a lot

Though I'm hopeful that as more open source software becomes polished/popular, more will get added to it

[lucid echo]

if GPT had those links up to date I bet it'd be great to make a script like that

[stoic beacon]

I never thought of that...I'll have to try that out

[lucid echo]

Odds are it'll hallucinate the download links.

Maybe Bing Chat would be better

[stoic beacon]

That's the one I've taken to using anyways, despite its limitations

I know this isn't really in the programming AI wheelhouse, but have you seen the Poly AI Textures stuff?

[lucid echo]

I haven't

[stoic beacon]

It's insane how much time AI tools have already saved at work. And I thought a creative field like this would be safe, but while the studio I work for hasn't had layoffs yet, several other studios have started laying off their texture artists

It's too easy for it to be automatic...has it started affecting your workplace yet?

[lucid echo]

No. Enterprise is gonna be slow to pick it up. We were never even allowed to use Github Copilot cuz of the infosec problems.
We also use GSuite so can't benefit from the Office Copilot thing

AFAIK I'm the only one on my team actively paying for GPT Plus

[stoic beacon]

That's fair...and good to know, I suppose

[lucid echo]

I took Luke's advice to heart - Get really good at using these tools ASAP, because it's going to become a marketable skill

[lucid echo]

The creative side came faster than expected, but the writing was on the wall.
In my AI classes in college, it was emphasized that the last jobs to go would be highly precise physically (plumbing, construction) or highly emotional/social (social work, in-person therapy, elderly care)

[manic torrent]

The thing is - people do enough dumb shit, I don't trust them to review AI code, and it also causes weird legal questions - it's not worth it

[stoic beacon]

Yeah, the physical labor jobs are doing very well right now. Our town is down to two electricians, and based on their prices, they know it

[manic torrent]

we all know that coder who is a cut/paste fucking hack job and just produces barely working garbage

[lucid echo]

The physical side is not progressing as exponentially as the digital side of autonomous shit. For example, it's gonna be a long fucking time before a robot can administer meds to an elderly patient thats having a dementia-induced panic attack

[glass vapor]

yo today was wild

[manic torrent]

also, we pay people that do that fuck all, so there's little incentive

[dull granite]

if i want to work in IT departments, should i start learning how to things like use microsoft 365 office programs now

[glass vapor]

at 720 am before school even started i saw this dude get double teamed, a 5'10 300lb football player superman dived on the table on top of the dude and they were bodying him

[manic torrent]

huh? if you want to work anywhere, ever, you should know how to use stuff

[lucid echo]

Yeah for a long while it'll be an assistant. Hopefully it'll help speed up backlog clearing as opposed to new features.

[stoic beacon]

If you want to work anywhere but fast food, you should probably learn office...

[dull granite]

i mean

they did teach it in school and stuff

[glass vapor]

then there was a multiple crash on the highway and 6 people died and all the buses fo revery school got backed up for hours

[stoic beacon]

Learn Excel and Word primarily, those are the two important ones

[glass vapor]

and some mf with road rage got out the car and was yelling at us

today sucked

[dull granite]

i mean word is easy

[manic torrent]

even then - it aint rocket surgery

[lucid echo]

Learning the command line (both unix/bash and powershell) is probably more important for that field than excel & powerpoint

[glass vapor]

also i wonder if the kids at my school who get beat on either are super durable or the kids throw weak punches

bc he wasnt even bruised up or bleeding or swaying

despite it looking like he got mauled in the moment

[stoic beacon]

Currently battling powershell right now. Makes me miss bash sometimes

[dull granite]

imma try to find some tutorials/guides/etc inline about cmd because it seems important

[lucid echo]

This is so far from relevant discussion for a tech discord server, take it somewhere else please

[dull granite]

what

[glass vapor]

this says "public chat" the chat fo rall things

[dull granite]

wait whats happenin to ya kid at yer school

[stoic beacon]

A good way to learn is actually through the Odin Project, which is used for teaching Javascript normally. The beginning section of the lessons talk about command line navigation in Linux, which is super useful

[lucid echo]

Read the description buddy

[glass vapor]

LTT related, literally anything is LTT related

[stoic beacon]

"For all things LTT related." Which is tech, ChatGPT (thanks Luke), and screwdrivers.

[dull granite]

yoo

imma save this

[stoic beacon]

Don't save it, go do it! 🙂

[dull granite]

its like

[lucid echo]

Also Rule 10 in #rules

[dull granite]

10 PM here

[stray kestrel]

I started my first store today and I’m excited

[dull granite]

STORE!?!?

[stoic beacon]

Also, if you're interested in IT, get comfortable with multiple operating systems, as you'll be waging war against all three primary ones before too long

I guess I should say four primary ones

[lucid echo]

Honestly, ask ChatGPT about things to start learning on it. It might be helpful. It's really good at infotech and programming discussion

[stoic beacon]

Five, if you count TempleOS

[dull granite]

TempleOS?

[lucid echo]

Don't Ethan

[dull granite]

1. Windows 11
2. Windows 10
3. Windows 7
4. Windows XP?

[lucid echo]

Don't scare them away lol

[lucid echo]

Linux/MacOS/Windows

[dull granite]

OSX?

[stoic beacon]

I was kidding about TempleOS.

1. Windows
2. MacOS
3. Linux (Arch)
4. Linux (Debian)

The last two are basically the same, but the issues you'll face from users who are using them will be different

[lucid echo]

3 of those you can learn at once if you know bash lol

[dull granite]

BASH!?!?

[lucid echo]

It's the terminal "language" for linux and mac

[manic torrent]

yeah it isn't

[lucid echo]

Highly essential to know for anyone in IT

[manic torrent]

it's the default shell in many systems

[dull granite]

i mean
i want to get my skirt and high things soon so i guess i also want to linux

[lucid echo]

I'm using bash/unix interchangeably here because this kid is brand new and most resources will focus on using the term "bash"

[manic torrent]

most people don't use anything that is bash specific really. Although the difference in some systems between bash and sh and how it's setup can bite you in the ass

[lucid echo]

I ain't about to be bringing up zsh and all that

[manic torrent]

I would just say how to use a command line interface effectively

[lucid echo]

Yep that was my first message lol

[dull granite]

i mean

i overuse the 'i mean'

it's not like character thing its now just annoying

[lucid echo]

No one has noticed

[dull granite]

anyway

[manic torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM

I mean, can you imagine 50 people a day, comin in, signing a bar of alices restaurant and walkin out?

[lucid echo]

Look up tutorials for the windows command line, unix command line, installing linux for the first time @dull granite

[dull granite]

okay

[lucid echo]

That's a good start

Just see what it's like. Don't get fixated on learning all of it. That comes with practice

[dull granite]

most linus thing i did was installing linux on virtualbox when i was bored in class in high school

[lucid echo]

Good start!

I would stay away from WSL, and focus on Linux VMs like what you did, or dual booting

[dull granite]

WLS!?!?

[lucid echo]

WSL is confusing and causes more trouble the less you know about linux

[stoic beacon]

Also, like he mentioned earlier, utilize ChatGPT and BingChat to help you with this, as the results are pretty impressive

[lucid echo]

It's kinda like a VM but also not

[dull granite]

i think more psychical contact with tech (discord and techtubers doesn't count), the better i'll get

[stoic beacon]

Windows
Subsystem for
Linux

= WSL. It's Linux, but with no GUI, and if something breaks, it's much more difficult to fix compared to a VM

[lucid echo]

Also some things are just different and frustrating

Just ignore it for now

[dull granite]

also which programming languages i should learn?
i started c# one day, and forgot about it 2-3 weeks after

[stoic beacon]

That's partially true, but the best way to learn is to give yourself problems, and then solve those problems using Google. If you can't solve the problems using preexisting solutions out there, few places will want to hire you

[dull granite]

C# and C++ maybe?

[fossil frost]

WSL has a GUI if you want it to have one, if something breaks, its exactly the same as fixing it in any other vm

[dull granite]

lua seems fun but useless

oh javascript maybe too

[stoic beacon]

C# and Javascript, more likely. But focus less on "What language should I learn?" and focus more on why languages do what they do.

Learn what object oriented programing means

[lucid echo]

Whatever you learn first will not be your last, and does not lock you into a certain path
I would suggest Python or Java.
Python is easy to get rolling but Java forces you to be more precise and less lazy

[brazen relic]

is anyone here familiar/regular with TrueNAS ?

[lucid echo]

#networking

[dull granite]

also i guess i should learn networking too

[stoic beacon]

Python is a hard one to start with because when you go after another one after that, it'll be irritating to unlearn various bad habits

[fossil frost]

learning "how to program" is more important than the language... once you have a fundamental understanding on "how programming works", then picking up different languages is nothing

[lucid echo]

Yeah this is very true

[stoic beacon]

Start with command line and operating systems, save networking for later, as it's a much more formidable foe, with a lot more variables

[lucid echo]

Yep, most of my dev jobs taught me a different language once I got hired. It's more about the programming mindset than actual knowledge of XYZ language, especially early on

[fossil frost]

networking is just magic... there is no reason for it to work... it just does... because of magic

[stoic beacon]

Also, in line with what Biz said, learn how to "flowchart" your code. That applies to EVERY language.

[lucid echo]

Only once you're like 32 years old and some sorta senior dev does the actual language matter

[dull granite]

damn i should go to IT/its called math-tech where i live or something school instead of humanities

[stoic beacon]

Depends on what your area defines humanities as

[dull granite]

its basically

local language + some books

[fossil frost]

you end up doing a lot of maths you never thought you would ever use when doing programming.. cannot tell you how many times recently i have had to use Pythagoras 😄

[dull granite]

they don't ever teach you actually speaking or rhetorics etc, just old books from a small country in europe

[dull granite]

Pythagoras is fucking awesome

[lucid echo]

Hmmm really depends. I use logic WAY more than actual math. And I'm in fintech too, doing payment processing. You'd think there would be way more math

[dull granite]

also quadratic formula stuff

[stoic beacon]

Probably not going to come into play for your IT goals

[dull granite]

i know but it's still cool

[jaunty compass]

My little brother is officially the first person to play an actual game on this Xbox I've had for two years

[lucid echo]

My Symbolic Logic philosophy class was more helpful to programming than any math class I took

[fossil frost]

my day job is writing analysis software, so i end up converting math equations into C# logic, but i need to understand that maths to convert it.. a lot of graph theory goes into it too

hobby stuff, a lot of geometry goes into it, because of making stupid little games

[lucid echo]

Makes sense. Really depends on the subfield

[manic torrent]

lol, most of the math is fucking off-by-1 errors 😄

[stoic beacon]

And BingChat successfully helps me repair my Python install...the magic strikes again

Inkscape interferes with everything, having a python executable inside its installation directory

[fossil frost]

or counting the number of times you go through "ok, so... the output is the opposite of what i want, so, ill invert the logic... wtf... its still the opposite of what i want... ok... ill undo it and try something else... wait... wtf... undoing it made it work correctly... but thats what i had in the first place and it was wrong, but now its right"

[lucid echo]

The current headache at work is handling the massive logic grid of four feature flags and four states of data among those flags, so 16 different presentation states the app can be in
We had to draw out a flowchat to keep track of wtf we were talking about for each state

[fossil frost]

i love a good drawing to simplify the bigger picture... on actual paper, with an actual pencil too... makes me 1. look much smarter to my fiancé, and 2. makes stuff click in my brain easier

[lucid echo]

That was the first draft yeah
Then we had our designer use Figma to make a pretty flowchart

[dull granite]

what are 'supercomputers' basically

some people throw this term

[fossil frost]

computers, with LOADS of processors

[lucid echo]

It's a blanket term for large datacenters

[dull granite]

so basically a lot of server racks?

[lucid echo]

Sure

[fossil frost]

they used to be single units, but these days, yes, they are essentially a data centre

[lucid echo]

Typically if all the racks are doing one thing rather than hosting a bunch of smaller things, it's a supercomputer

[fossil frost]

you could rent a super computer if you knew how to request 100s of EC2 instances from amazon, and network them all together properly, and manage all the interlinking... and then get them all to process the same large data set

[lucid echo]

Lmao that would be something

[fossil frost]

or. you could whack 4 quadro's into a EATX machine with a threadripper and a bunch of ram... and write some GPGPU code, and technically, that would count too

[dull granite]

GPGPU?!?

[fossil frost]

a lot of universities have a "super computer" per department that is essentially 4 quadros and a massive processor. for AI or modelling or whatever they are using it for... because they are fast, and cheap (cheap for a university)

[fossil frost]

General Purpose GPU programming

[dull granite]

oh like quadros and amd firepros

because geforce is gaming etc

[lucid echo]

Sure

[dull granite]

and RTX A6000?

[lucid echo]

GPT can help you a lot with these questions

[dull granite]

yoo

i forgor💀 about chatgpt

[lucid echo]

Ask it about supercomputers and unix and whatever. It'll tell you

[cosmic ore]

My university got a grant from NVIDIA to build a $70m supercomputer... We already have 3, with the biggest having like 250 2080Tis and 20 A100s

And a shit ton of Epycs

[dull granite]

woah

[vapid smelt]

250 2080ti "super computer"

[cosmic ore]

I mean it's still pretty large lol

[idle nymph]

Wow

[cosmic ore]

And mighty expensive

[fossil frost]

that would be a super computer that is shared between all departments... im on about the machines that cost about £20,000 that you can buy from somewhere like scan.co.uk that belong to a department, or even a particular professor

[dull granite]

there was a fella on tiktok with videos on working with big server racks room etc

but i forgot the name of the channel

[lucid echo]

there's probably lots

[dull granite]

also most of it was just RAM swaps

or HDD installs

[cosmic ore]

The new supercomputer will get 140 A100s apparently

Sorry, A100 DGX systems

Which apparently amounts to 1120 total A100s

[dull granite]

for tiktok tech-illiterates its still probably super advanced and tech server computer room stuff

[fossil frost]

building a single server is the same as building a single computer, its just expensive lego... and building a server rack, is building 1 server, many times... and building a data centre, is building 1 rack, many times... its not hard, its just tedious and requires planning

[dull granite]

the process is similar afaik

the parts are just diffrent

[fossil frost]

the parts are the same, except for the PSUs can be a different shape... but its the same...

[dull granite]

like i guess you won't use a geforce gamer rtx 3069 reddit gamer approved card but a card made for servers

and more xeons/epycs

[molten drift]

Excuse you

[dull granite]

wow chatgpt is wrong about PCs

[lucid echo]

What did it tell you

[dull granite]

it said that

[sonic spruce]

Is it possible to see how long an e-mail has existed for?

[dull granite]

display, keyboard and mouse are part of pc

[fossil frost]

they are

[dull granite]

they are periphial

[lucid echo]

Probably because they are

[dull granite]

also it listed 'optical drive'

[fossil frost]

they are still part of a personal computer

[dull granite]

PC computer

[sonic spruce]

Is it possible to see how long an e-mail has existed for?
@ me answer please?????

[lucid echo]

Wouldn't really be a personal computer if you couldn't personally compute with it

[manic torrent]

... when was it sent. how long ago was that

[dull granite]

see when it was sent

[lucid echo]

No

[sonic spruce]

The email account itself

[cosmic ore]

Not from the outside, no

[lucid echo]

Your youth is showing lol

[dull granite]

i mean it didn't list

it didn't list it as optional

[fossil frost]

optical drives only stopped being a standard thing a few years ago

[lucid echo]

Screenshot? #screenshots

[dull granite]

also graphics card is not neccessary too

[sonic spruce]

So you can’t then cuz Amazon be asking for email from repair store and I don’t want to drive 2 cities over to get to a beat buy

[lucid echo]

Depends on the CPU

[sonic spruce]

And all the local repair shops are shady so imma do it myself

[dull granite]

also on motherboard

[fossil frost]

its working on many years of data... many many years of data... and 2-3 years of which says optical drives are not required... on the weight of it... it would believe optical drives are required

[dull granite]

because not every motherboards support onboard graphics afaik

[cosmic ore]

I'd probably recommend Bing Chat instead of ChatGPT for this because it at least provides sources, however it often makes up stuff it finds in the links it provides

[lucid echo]

Either or

Bing is still on waitlist afaik

[dull granite]

also i think there was times where igpu was located on north bridge chipset

[lucid echo]

You should ask it

[dull granite]

to the chatgpt

imma do it rn

[fossil frost]

come to think of it... this PC im using now, is the first PC i have had where it has nothing inside it that spins round except for the fans... no HDDs, no DVD drive... nothing spinny

[dull granite]

yep thats true

[cosmic ore]

Definitely verify any answers you get from it @dull granite

[dull granite]

"In some older motherboard designs, the integrated graphics processing unit (iGPU) was indeed integrated into the Northbridge chipset. This was common in motherboards that used CPUs without an integrated GPU or when the integrated GPU on the CPU was disabled."

[lucid echo]

At this stage of their learning & how broad these questions are, any inaccuracy isn't particularly detrimental or problematic

[sonic barn]

I got it

[lucid echo]

Thank you for your valuable input Ihuezio

[sonic barn]

Yw

[cosmic ore]

It only took me like 4 days to get through wait-list

Without doing the extra stuff

[vapid smelt]

One 2080 ti has a floating-point performance of 13.4 TFLOPS,one 4090 is 143. So 250 2080tis is roughly 24 4090s

[dull granite]

tflops are

one trillion operations per second?

[sonic barn]

Same except 2days with extra stuff

[cosmic ore]

Floating point operations

I've been using bing chat for small bash scripts and commands, has worked well

[hollow pulsar]

At this rate, I’ll never use an AI- they all require a sign-in and I refuse. Lol

[sonic barn]

It can do all my homework with help

[dull granite]

wait A6000 RTX has 38.71 tflops, and RTX 4090 has 82.58, why won't servers/datacenters use the RTX 4090 instead of the rtx a6000?

[cosmic ore]

You can download Facebook lambda locally

[sonic barn]

C#, python flask oracle

[cosmic ore]

Not as powerful though

[cosmic ore]

VRAM and server features are important

[hollow pulsar]

Ah. I didn’t know that. What ate the odds it just sends everything to facebook though?

[cosmic ore]

Also they actually sell the DC cards in form factors suitable

[cosmic ore]

Pretty low since it was a leak

[hollow pulsar]

Lllolll

[dull granite]

oh

[sonic barn]

4090 can split threads

[dull granite]

i meant RTX 6000

[dull granite]

split threads?

[dull granite]

ok nevermind because RTX 6000 is faster than RTX 4090

[sonic barn]

Like 50% and 50% vs only 100%

[cosmic ore]

Professors are just gonna make homework and exams way harder and conceptual lol

[hollow pulsar]

I use a T400 I think? Can encode 16 videos in realtime. I don’t think the 4090 can do that.

[sonic barn]

They are for me already, very hard

Linux is a pain

We're creating and monitoring our own webserver and now creating our own DNS and root server

Hurts my head

He's like (class avg was 72%, a lot of people failed)

For the midterm

He was aiming for a 70% avg

[gentle slate]

hmm. im tempted to return to Windows

[cosmic ore]

I wouldn't mind being a C++ professor

[sonic barn]

Don't know why you're using Linux

[gentle slate]

coz amd windows drivers are a pain in the ass

[cosmic ore]

I did years ago lol, ever since WSL

[sonic barn]

I learnt c++17 on my own

[gentle slate]

and i wanted to fiddle with some customized shi

[stoic beacon]

I would HIGHLY recommend it

[manic torrent]

work fine for me

[sonic barn]

C++11 is easy though

[gentle slate]

but thing is

linux is pretty much ready to go

but for some reason I miss windows.

[sonic barn]

20 hurts my brain

I don't think anyone actually knows c++20

[gentle slate]

programmers dont exist

theyre unicorns. chatgpt has been writing all software since the 1980s

[sonic barn]

Like how can u memorize those functions out of an alien language

[cosmic ore]

Hi 😅

I've used and studied C++20 extensively

Still a bit fresh on coroutines and modules, and the more advanced parts of ranges, but the rest is pretty gucci

[gentle slate]

actually naaah I resume my Linux journey

[idle nymph]

My dad still code

[gentle slate]

windows is for chumps

[sonic barn]

Rip

How many strokes do you have

C++ is the most in demand irl

[manic torrent]

....

[empty fulcrum]

Nobody in keyboard chat

[full fossil]

based

[sonic barn]

@manic torrent is a web developer for Fortnite

[cosmic ore]

Not quite but there's a lot of C++ for sure

[manic torrent]

I'm a html developer for angelfire

[sonic barn]

Same thing

Only like 3 jobs in Canada

It's basically a c++ framework like react

Wait nvm that's carbon 🤓

Yes you can have a regular c++ file in carbon

React you can have regular JavaScript

[cosmic ore]

Carbon isn't a framework

[sonic barn]

I'm saying it's like one

[cosmic ore]

Carbon is a new language that advertises good interopabiloty

[sonic barn]

But u can write entirely in cpp

[cosmic ore]

Frameworks are something that provide idioms and preferences for large scale structure of software

React provides the reactive components

[sonic barn]

I'm gonna commit carbon monoxide

[cosmic ore]

Hence the name

[fossil frost]

hmmmn.... 2tb external ssd (i assume sata internal) usb 3.1 type-c.... £40... odds on it being genuinely 2tb?

[gilded quest]

from what kind of seller

[fossil frost]

amazon marketplace, this drive 😄 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rr-Wcydc-EasyAcc-Compatible-2TB_Black/dp/B0BVRH15S9

[vapid smelt]

idk its 84 uk pounds for a normal 2tb ssd

[fossil frost]

odds are close to 0% chance its real/genuine

[gilded quest]

Is it covered by Amazon return policy?

[fossil frost]

it is

[gilded quest]

Seems legit

[fossil frost]

yeah i read them after i sent the link here 🙂

[lucid echo]

They did the trick that linus talked about in his most recent SSD scam video

[fossil frost]

1tb crucial ones are £60..

😄 😄 😄 😄 https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Mobile-Portable-Storage-Laptop/dp/B0BWS2QKGY 😄 😄 😄 😄 "9tb mobile ssd"... yeah... its not... at all

[manic torrent]

3.0 vs 3.2 is a bloody big difference 🙂

[fossil frost]

the WD is a hard drive, the Crucial is an SSD

[vapid smelt]

do you like them hard or soft

i like soft tacos more

[vapid smelt]

if you have spare ssds you could get a 10-20 dollar enclosure

[gilded quest]

i've been tempted to pick up an m.2 enclosure for a while

[fossil frost]

i have an enclosure, just dug it out of my spares box... no spare ssds though, so just ordered a crucial 500gb ssd to put into that... 500gb is plenty for what im actually gonna be using it for

[vapid smelt]

i thought every tech person had spare sata ssds

[fossil frost]

i did have, but i recently used them

[vapid smelt]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ROG-Arion-Aluminum-Enclosure/dp/B07ZKB4SLK you could buy a over priced gaming one for $56

[gilded quest]

They have a weeb version for a hundred bucks lmao

[vapid smelt]

lmao i didnt see that

it doesn't even come with a drive in it for 100$!

[gilded quest]

But it's weeb so super worth it

[gilded quest]

Sold

[vapid smelt]

people really bought the 100$ version

[fossil frost]

its my fiance's birthday tomorrow... so i have 4 days of saying "ha, you are 38 and im not"... before i turn 38 on monday 😄

[sonic barn]

counterstrike 2 is hot

its nsfw

[manic torrent]

it's my birthday in a week so I get to say I'm 42 and I'll be dead soon

[fossil frost]

sooner than me anyway 😄

[manic torrent]

of that there is no guarantees my friend 🙂

[fossil frost]

tell me where you live, and we will see about that 😄

[manic torrent]

I live in a pineapple under the sea

[vapid smelt]

the drop bears will get bob soon

[fossil frost]

do you have square pants?

[manic torrent]

ah, you'd be thinking of SPONGEbob. we get each others mail sometimes, it's a common mistake.

[strange elk]

Well I gave Metro Exodus a try. I dont like the AT there as much as COD Cold War

[wind pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d2moH6jWh8

I have no idea why, but I feel extreme satisfaction that he treats the car like utter garbage

[odd nebula]

Lol

[wind pulsar]

Me and my fiancee are the same age, so I don't get to do that.
He's around three hours older

[vapid smelt]

are yall twins

[fossil frost]

That sucks. She's 4 days older than me, so we would have been in the same hospital at the same time when we were born 😁

[wind pulsar]

If we were I'd feel severe depression since he's a whole foot taller than me

[unkempt widget]

it would suck if you were twins and your poor mother has to wait 4 hours to give birth to the second child

[cosmic ore]

In highschool I dated an identical twin

Fun times

[unkempt widget]

were you the twin? please no

[cosmic ore]

No

[unkempt widget]

good

what so you dated both of them at the same time

[cosmic ore]

No just the one

But i hung out with the two of them a ton

Only ever mistook them once

[wind pulsar]

You're being weird, ngl

[polar juniper]

hey chat what are the benefits of having a pc case with a hard steel side panel that isn't glass or acrylic???

[manic torrent]

nobody can see your garbage cable management

[polar juniper]

@manic torrent and i can't see dust sticking to my glass or acrylic side panel anymore kekekekekekekeke

[manic torrent]

maybe clean your shit 🙂

and make your case positive pressure.

[graceful burrow]

The side panel can't shatter under normal conditions

[polar juniper]

lol

[manic torrent]

just use a cardboard box

[graceful burrow]

You say lol but tap the edge of a tempered glass panel with a hammer and see what happens

[polar juniper]

lol ok

[manic torrent]

absolutely normal conditions. I am always hitting my PC with a hammer

[graceful burrow]

Honestly Bob, I believe you

[manic torrent]

hahaha, I mean, it does sound like a problem I would have

[cosmic ore]

Percussive maintenance

[pliant karma]

👀pc violence I see

[velvet igloo]

👋

[regal fox]

I have a question

[vapid smelt]

no i wont date you

[regal fox]

how bad is the 3050 ti compared to 3060 and 3070

[past egret]

wait discord added a soundboard?

[vapid smelt]

https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/best-gpus

[regal fox]

is there any way to upgrade the graphics card of a laptop

g14 zephyrus to be exact

[vapid smelt]

https://www.xda-developers.com/best-external-gpus-for-your-laptop/

[regal fox]

any way to do it within the laptop

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[regal fox]

arghhhh

[manic torrent]

and the hilarious thing is laptops that have come out promising this ability and costing more because of it..... then don't come out with upgraded parts.

[wind pulsar]

There's no desktop 3050 Ti and the mobile 3050 Ti is about equivalent to a GTX 1660 assuming it's fully powered iirc

And the 3050 is about equivalent to a 1660 Super iirc, so low-end (as xx50 should be, still kinda disappointing)

[vapid smelt]

i count the 3060 8gb as a 3050ti desktop

[wind pulsar]

We don't talk about failures

[wraith sonnet]

Am I weird for simply refering to RUFUS as "My best friend" or "A techs best friend"?

[wraith sonnet]

the last complete Nvidia generation was 700 series

fight me

[vapid smelt]

10/10 Nvidia

[wraith sonnet]

TBH I don't believe the A770 score here

[vapid smelt]

way old drivers

dec 2 2022 when it was published

[random sapphire]

Yo guys

Whats ur opinion on this build i made for friend

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/Sleepy_Gojo/saved/#view=bL6Qyc

[wraith sonnet]

yeah the a770 performs WAY better than my 6600

[vapid smelt]

why 7700x

[tired olive]

So uhhh

Shit wrong server

Nvm

[random sapphire]

Will be 7800x3d, 7700x is placeholder now in build

[wraith sonnet]

why the 6950 instead of a rx 7k?

[random sapphire]

In germany 7900xtx and xt too much

Also with that setup he can get around 200 fps 1440p in any game on high, except some new titles OFC

[wraith sonnet]

I would also change to the fractal pop for the ability to have 5.25 but not be ass ugly

[random sapphire]

Wym lancool 2 is good case

It aint ugly

[wraith sonnet]

I'm not calling it ugly

I'm saying cases other than the pop with 5.25 support are

[runic lagoon]

Did they really not test it with an 8k keyboard and mouse? 💀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewo8tt6bgZU

[random sapphire]

Whyd he need 5.25 ?

[wraith sonnet]

500hz monitors only exist with 1080p panels

[summer folio]

imagine not having a CD-burner

[wraith sonnet]

hotswap? front panel usb?

[runic lagoon]

it's not that kind of 8k XD

[random sapphire]

Why xD

[summer folio]

If the motherboard doesn't have IDE for my CD-burner, I'm not buying it

[random sapphire]

His mobo has enough usb slots believe me

[wraith sonnet]

look the death of the 5.25 bay feels like the whole reason we use towers instead of consoles is pointless

[old shale]

8k polling rate i guess he meant @wraith sonnet

[summer folio]

it's like USB, but way more reliable

[summer folio]

Full Towers

[wraith sonnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/NedOfTheNet/saved/4ML9K8 here burn your eyes

It is currently sitting in my cabinet

I will make it worse

[summer folio]

Haha, epicc, but why?

[summer folio]

https://cdn.pji.nu/product/standard/800/93893.jpg

[summer folio]

"ntai
5/5
2002-10-29
"I purchased Lunar ATX case (YY-5402) from Yeon Yang. Since the product is not widely available from many sources, this is the place to buy Yeong Yang. As a retail store, this is just yet another Yahoo store, but, since this place is a company store, it gives me better confidence in the service than other retail stores. As far as the product goes, I think that Yeong Yang's cases are very solid and honest products."

It even got space for Dual-Floppy-Disks!

[wraith sonnet]

make people cringe at ltx

[wraith sonnet]

explicitly components still being sold today with the sole exception of the OS

[glass vapor]

their pricing is also 10x more than amd for no reason

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-money-is-the-source-of-joy-spongebob-gif-10015735

[stray apex]

It's because that's what people are willing to pay

[velvet igloo]

when your product is so bad even the newcomer manages to kick your ass in one of them

i really wanna buy an Arc A750 but i don't have the money

[stray apex]

Intel has like, rDNA era drivers

It's really not worth it if you don't like messing around with drivers and software

[vapid smelt]

take out a loan

[velvet igloo]

eh, i don't mind it

at least for something like an Arc card

i'd probably just end up using it as a secondary or backup card if anything

but i've just been sorta fascinated with the Arc cards for no particular reason

[vapid smelt]

brain washed

[velvet igloo]

lol

[native crag]

Dayum!! "Running on GPUs, cuLitho delivers a performance leap of up to 40x beyond current lithography—the process of creating patterns on a silicon wafer—accelerating the massive computational workloads that currently consume tens of billions of CPU hours every year."

[velvet igloo]

if i do get one that'd mean i've used all 3 big brands of GPUs

had an RX 580 before i got my RTX 3070

[native crag]

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidias-breakthrough-in-computational-lithography-to-accelerate-next-gen-chip-design-for-asmltsmc.html

[vapid smelt]

8gb of vram

[velvet igloo]

hopefully Hopper isn't as shit as Lovelace is in regards to cost and power

[velvet igloo]

yeah...

[native crag]

Well, they have the tools to compile a new mask each day instead of weeks

[velvet igloo]

i really would've loved to own a card with more VRAM but i didn't wanna wait any longer with my 580

[stray apex]

Vram is overrated for gaming anyways

Most people probably aren't playing at resolutions high enough for it to matter

[native crag]

Depends on res you game at and complexity of the assets needed to load

[manic torrent]

I mean, I play at 4k.

[plush rivet]

Very very dependent on context

Because some people blow through 8VRAM in 2 seconds

[native crag]

Is the new Unreal engine (nanite) dependent on lots of VRAM?

[stray apex]

Don't you also have a setup that's like
Significantly better than average

[velvet igloo]

the problem is that i play VR and i can definitely see it rubbing up against that 8 GB limit

[plush rivet]

Of course

More textures=more hardware requirements

[native crag]

But those are synth textures, not bitmaps as I understand it

[stray apex]

Ehh
We used to consider 6gb perfectly fine for VR
And VR hasn't exactly advanced a ton

[velvet igloo]

i try to unplug my secondary monitor and lower the resolution on my main monitor to squeeze every frame i can lol

[plush rivet]

Oh your so correct, I’m pretty sure it still is however because of the need of better textures/ colors

[velvet igloo]

i'll agree to disagree on that

[plush rivet]

Can’t back that up at all but I’m 80% sure

[stray apex]

Even half life runs on a 1060

[plush rivet]

Half life can run on legit any GPU

[stray apex]

Unless you're playing a higher end, less optimized title

[graceful burrow]

Can confirm, played hla on a 6gb 1060, rift s

[native crag]

It will be interesting how it benchmarks per res setting. I figured that, along with ReBAR and Direct Storage would reduce the pressure needed for lots of VRAM. .....in theory

[velvet igloo]

i play modded Blade and Sorcery and VRChat mainly

[vapid smelt]

look at the group

[velvet igloo]

i really wanna see how ReBAR affects VR performance but nobody has tested it whatsoever

i can't imagine it's much but still

piques my interest

[regal fox]

1. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834233528?Item=34-233-528&cr_rid=web_notification&cm_sp=web_notification-_-retention-_-Pers_RetenEmailWebNotify_NVTC-_-PDP-_-34-233-528-_-SJKZHDGASZFJF1679524019363&rec_value=-_-3365-_--_-34-233-528-_--_-34-233-528_1___-_-Pers_RetenEmailWebNotify-_--_-&utm_source=web push&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=web_notification-_-retention-_-Pers_RetenEmailWebNotify_NVTC-_-PDP-_-34-233-528-_-SJKZHDGASZFJF1679524019363&source=f
2. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834233557?Item=N82E16834233557
3. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834156395
4. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834725204
5. https://www.newegg.com/obsidian-black-acer-nitro-5-an515-46-r0eq-gaming/p/N82E16834360247?Item=N82E16834360247
6. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834725204?Item=N82E16834725204
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[plush rivet]

Yeah I’m good

[native crag]

VR is basically two screens rendered (one for each eye) with an offset Z axis perspective for each render. So, VR in of itself isn't an issue, just requires more GPU

[velvet igloo]

right, i guess it'd just be cool to see if there's any titles that benefit from ReBAR/SAM

[cosmic ore]

There are some complications to that like foveated rendering and stuff

[stray apex]

Probably no more than pancake games are affected

[native crag]

Should be. I know that Intel's ARC heavily depends on ReBAR at least

[stray apex]

Which isn't a ton, iirc

[velvet igloo]

right, but just having the data set would be nice for a reference

[vapid smelt]

will i be paid?

[native crag]

Just ask Chat GPT for everything

It LIED TO ME on a Powershell comand. Not cool

[runic lagoon]

most of them just use one panel, with two images. sense its easyer to do, then trying to synce to panels. And you don't have to double chips, hardware, extra.

[native crag]

$VBSStatus = Get-CimInstance -ClassName Win32_DeviceGuard -Namespace root/Microsoft/Windows/DeviceGuard | Select-Object -ExpandProperty VirtualizationBasedSecurityStatus
if ($VBSStatus -eq 2) {
    Write-Host "VBS is enabled"
} else {
    Write-Host "VBS is not enabled"
}

# Check if HVCI is enabled
$HVCIStatus = Get-CimInstance -ClassName Win32_DeviceGuard -Namespace root/Microsoft/Windows/DeviceGuard | Select-Object -ExpandProperty SecurityServicesRunning
if ($HVCIStatus -eq 2) {
    Write-Host "HVCI is enabled"
} else {
    Write-Host "HVCI is not enabled"
}

# Check if Credential Guard is enabled
$CGStatus = Get-CimInstance -ClassName Win32_DeviceGuard -Namespace root/Microsoft/Windows/DeviceGuard | Select-Object -ExpandProperty SecurityServicesRunning
if ($CGStatus -eq 1) {
    Write-Host "Credential Guard is enabled"
} else {
    Write-Host "Credential Guard is not enabled"
}```

Got it working

[heady flicker]

https://www.newegg.com/obsidian-black-acer-nitro-5-an515-46-r0eq-gaming/p/N82E16834360247?Item=N82E16834360247

[elfin jetty]

keks in 3060ti

[native crag]

Those keys look extra squishy

[sullen depot]

are ssd's ever gonna come down. i only have a 500gb m.2 in my rig lol

[tepid bolt]

they're already half the price they were a year ago

[vapid smelt]

its $40 for 1tb

[native crag]

Fabrication constraints.

[sullen depot]

where

[tepid bolt]

you can get 2tb for less than $100 nowadays

Amazon, Newegg, anywhere really

[native crag]

Once more chips are fabbed, price per GB will drop

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/usa-united-states-of-america-usa-freedom-eagle-usa-flag-gif-24669423

[sullen depot]

is 2 enough tho

[native crag]

2 is enough. 1TB for the OS, 2TB for the Steam Library

Or just one 2TB drive

[vapid smelt]

i just use one 2tb gen 4 drive

[sullen depot]

i got my 500gb m.2 for the OS and... everything

but i cant install games much

2tb should be fine yeah

[native crag]

Keep the 500 for OS and apps, and then get a 2TB for games

You can move the Steam Library

[sullen depot]

yeah sounds good to me

[runic lagoon]

wallpaper

[native crag]

It's glorious

Need more mullet

[sullen depot]

do i need to worry about speeds or anything for a drive

for gaming

[runic lagoon]

it's S panther glorious, it's so pungunt. It burns the nostrols.

[native crag]

Not now, but Direct Storage will be a thing. Be sure you have at least PCIe 3.0 M.2 slots

Bonus if you've got 4.0

[sullen depot]

i have an old am4 board with a r5 2600 so i have no idea

[native crag]

3.0

[sullen depot]

i do have m.2 tho, 2 slots

[native crag]

It will work

[runic lagoon]

m.2, this is the way

[sullen depot]

what do you mean it'll be a thing tho? like ssds are gonna be phased out?

[native crag]

Samsung, Sabrent, WD. In that order

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cECNuXXpvWo

[native crag]

M.2 is the slot used for NVMe. It's flash memory. Way faster than the old SATA based SSDs.

NVMe is an SSD. Just FYI

[sullen depot]

oh i didnt know nvme was only on m.2's

its just faster right

[native crag]

Right

NVMe is optimized for FLASH memory whereas the old SATA type is not

SATA was originally for HDDs

[sullen depot]

right right

makes sense

[native crag]

Way higher IOPS and throughput with NVMe. SATA caps out at 600MB/s

[runic lagoon]

sata tends to have less performance then PCIe. Your also adding an extra step.

[vapid smelt]

no we have sata m.2s m.2 is just a form factor

[native crag]

PCIe 3.0 M.2 will get you over 3GB /s

[clever relic]

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-Internal-Hard-Drive/dp/B085Z4P89R/ref=sr_1_4?crid=240OMJUFZDH4P&keywords=6tb+hdd&qid=1679543419&sprefix=6tb+hd%2Caps%2C108&sr=8-4&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc
or 6 lol

[native crag]

Yeah, but we don't talk about that abomination

Totally a waste of a perfectly good M.2 slot

[tepid bolt]

ew but that's a hard drive

[clever relic]

i agree

[sullen depot]

im not a caveman

id like my games to load faster than 90''s dialup

[native crag]

Get the Pro series for NAS usage. SMR vs CMR.

Hint, SMR drive suck for NAS usage (specifically RAID)

[runic lagoon]

sata can be cheaper some times.

[native crag]

If you play games, and will be replacing or upgrading storage, just pay the extra and get the NVMe over SATA

SATA is legacy for internal storage

[runic lagoon]

well i'd lean pcie m.2 over stata m.2 for the average gaming rig. Even if they're teh same speed, same price, just to remove the extra step of sata.

[native crag]

You want the IOPS. Go NVMe, specifically with DRAM cache

[sullen depot]

are there nvme ssds that arent m.2

[native crag]

Enterprise usage, yes

[runic lagoon]

you can get m.2 that are PCIe or Sata. And you can get PCIe NVME that's like a raw PCIe slot.

[native crag]

Consumer usage, NVMe only comes in M.2 unless you buy a PCIe card with M.2 slots on it

WD makes a good NVMe drive. Not my first choice, but it ranks in the top 3 IMHO

[sullen depot]

oh the pcie thing seems very extra

[native crag]

Samsung is my first choice. BUT, you need to stay on top of updating the firmware on them.

[runic lagoon]

if your talking about the WD Black 1TB AN1500 NVMe SSD, it's actully just to m.2

[sullen depot]

mmm guess i'll have to get m.2 for nvme speeds

are they that much faster

[native crag]

Faster than SATA

[runic lagoon]

same with the corsair , and the OWC.

[sullen depot]

noticeably?

[native crag]

Probably, not. But, NVMe will be required for titles that require Direct Storage

[sullen depot]

thats a thing?

[runic lagoon]

well there are PCIe 5 M.2

[native crag]

Look at the cost difference between SATA and NVMe. The delta isn't all that much

[sullen depot]

what games require that

[wraith sonnet]

a lot cheaper

[wraith sonnet]

u.2

[native crag]

Only one title that I'm aware of. It will be more of a requirement in the next year for some newer games

[runic lagoon]

some games take advantage of newer PC with nBAR support. WHere the GPU can directly access the storage to improve load times.

[wraith sonnet]

complains about apple product being trash on windows

[native crag]

iCloud is garbage

[sullen depot]

oh that sounds dope

[native crag]

Apple only makes one good product, the iPhone. The rest is trash

[sullen depot]

all the namebrand 2tb nvme ssd's are over $110

sad

wait i found a WD blue 2tb for 109

[native crag]

Check Amazon, sometime you'll run into major discounts from major brands

Choose PRIME

[sullen depot]

western digital looks ugly as sin ngl

[native crag]

Don't buy from some rando store front

[runic lagoon]

it can be a nice performance boost for some things. It might be more important for unreal engine 5. With all the scalable dymaic stuff that's in it. BUt I haven't seen anyone do a comparison.
I can't remember if they got it working with sata yet. I know there was chatter abou tit.

[sullen depot]

tag me if u find more about it

[native crag]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directstorage-1-1-coming-soon/

[worldly kayak]

ipad is fun

lol

oh and airpods and apple watch

[native crag]

Now, if you plan on keeping your existing GPU for while, but need storage, you could stay with SATA. But IMHO, I'd go with NVMe

[native crag]

Yeah, the new Airpods 3 are dope

[velvet marsh]

the price difference is basically negligible

[sullen depot]

i have a 3070, im not upgrading for a while

and r5 2600

[velvet marsh]

need a cpu upgrade

[native crag]

LOL, my office offered me a new MacBook with the latest M chip, or an HP business laptop with Windows 10.

Instantly, I took the HP laptop

[worldly kayak]

ive had my 1st gen airpods pro since realease and theve been great

[vapid smelt]

i like crucial/micron

[sullen depot]

ill get those 3d am4 cpus when they drop in price

[native crag]

Hate OSX

[worldly kayak]

western digital is bad?

[sullen depot]

AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800X3D 8-core, 16-Thread Desktop Pro…

[kindred silo]

should i buy a 240 hz 1440p OLED monitor or a 360hz 1440p IPS

[sullen depot]

that thing

[velvet marsh]

OLED

[native crag]

Need to check your MB compatibility with those.

[vapid smelt]

why take the worst laptop?

[native crag]

Company pays for Windows licensing, not me 🙂

[sullen depot]

i have an am4 board, isnt that alli need?

[wraith sonnet]

so apparently the steam deck just works on thunderbolt docks?

[sullen depot]

p sure i just have to update the bios

[native crag]

I need x86 with a Type-1 HyperVisor. That = Windows with Hyper-V to run VMs for testing

Fuck no

[velvet marsh]

can't bootcamp with M series chips

[native crag]

Yup

64GB of RAM too

I've got my reasons

Thuderbolt dock with 2 big-ass monitors

Sales can have the Mac attack

[sullen depot]

which series is bristol ridge

is that preryzen?

[uncut axle]

American or euro truck simulator?

They cost about the same

[native crag]

Not Ryzen

[uncut axle]

I mean i would say the amount of space needed would be important although it’s like a 5gb difference

[uncut axle]

(Mainly internet reasons tbh, my 1tb mx500 Should be fine)

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-jim-halpert-hmm-doubt-it-doubt-it-doubt-gif-20978255

[native crag]

American trucks move Euro trucks to the repair shop

[vapid smelt]

euro trucks are small and weird

[native crag]

It's a tall order to try and beat a Cummins

[wraith sonnet]

Take a Euro truck the same distance an American truck goes and see how long it lasts

[uncut axle]

So what should I get?

[wraith sonnet]

personally I'd rather not be sitting on top of an engine like that

what's that in freedom units

[uncut axle]

Although they are both $5 rn

[vapid smelt]

i would hate to fix the engine of the side of the road when its under your seat

[native crag]

Depends on if there's a Hooters nearby

[wraith sonnet]

Don't live in a state with enough degenerates for that

[native crag]

We like our peaches

[wraith sonnet]

so 1500 freedom units in tons

[native crag]

and mellons

[wraith sonnet]

nononono

[vapid smelt]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/watch-volvo-fh16-semi-tow-750-tons/

[wraith sonnet]

1 imperial ton is 1000 lbs

[finite cloud]

Do they make euro trucks with sleepers or do they not come like that?

[finite cloud]

What in the world

[native crag]

Spoiler alert, the entire engine is made of tungsten carbide

[vapid smelt]

many miles

[wraith sonnet]

wtf kinda truck is that? under a million is horseshit here coop

[native crag]

LOL WOT?

[uncut axle]

Although they probably tow less (I would imagine)

[native crag]

It's 386k km to the Moon

[uncut axle]

Interesting, yearly?

Ahh

Depends tbh

Although I’m still trying to decide between euro or American truck simulator

[native crag]

America is very large. So much of the trucks are in highway miles, not stop-in-go traffic unless rush hour

[uncut axle]

Unless I get both since they are $5 rn

For about another 12 and a half hours

[vapid smelt]

American trucks go up canyons

[native crag]

Drive from LA to DC and tell me otherwise

But it's not "small" is my point

[vapid smelt]

you population is tiny

[native crag]

Most of the Canadian population is on the US / Canada border, no?

I can't live up north. I have an allergic reaction to a substant called "snow" (whatever that stuff is)

I'll deal with hurricanes

[uncut axle]

💀💀

We barely get “snow”

And if we do, it’s very little

[native crag]

It's the stuff of myth and legend

[uncut axle]

Fr

[native crag]

I made a snowman once...with a dixie cup

[uncut axle]

Or i could get assetto corsa

[native crag]

It's late, I'm out for the night. ✌️

[uncut axle]

It’s 11:37pm rn for me

[runic lagoon]

go to bed XD

[wispy marsh]

Today, at 3:57PM

[runic lagoon]

you sound far away from the LTT campus

[fierce moth]

Best gpu for plex encoding?
Gonna be used in a server

[gilded quest]

4090

[wispy marsh]

Best in the market currently would be 7900XTX for AV1

[gilded quest]

Or that

[vapid smelt]

arc a770

[wispy marsh]

I do not remember if plex uses nvenc

[fierce moth]

💀

But legit tho

Should I just get a 3060

[gilded quest]

ARC

[fierce moth]

I have no need for av1 tho

[gilded quest]

[wispy marsh]

Yeah, the 4090 is the best GPU you can get for plex right now

[fierce moth]

💀

[gilded quest]

Wait for 4090ti

[runic lagoon]

unless your talking price to performance

[gilded quest]

He never gave a budget

[fierce moth]

Alleged 4000 series titan

[wispy marsh]

If you had asked for best performance-per-cost for plex, we would've recommended 3050~3070ti

[gilded quest]

So I assume price isn't a concern

[fierce moth]

Keep it sensible

[gilded quest]

Shoulda lead with that mate

[vapid smelt]

4070ti

[fierce moth]

I mean

[gilded quest]

You asked for the best

[wispy marsh]

If you're not employed or have a passive income, I suggest a 1650S/1660S

[gilded quest]

So I suggested it :P

[vapid smelt]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-arc-a380-a380-cli-6g/p/N82E16814930076 120

[wispy marsh]

Note: allowance from parents is not a passive income. That's called leeching

[fierce moth]

I suppose I should of put in some context

[runic lagoon]

💀 passive income 💀

[fierce moth]

My bad

[gilded quest]

Always

[fierce moth]

I most likely won't be using the video outputs

[gilded quest]

Just heard a gunshot

[fierce moth]

And will be running linux