public-chat

[ebon otter]

What games do you like?

[keen shore]

https://google.com/search?q=metallurgy+define
g " metalleh ghee "
me " metall urr ghee"
linus " meta lurgy "

[full fossil]

is there any general library the does automatically relocate the program to run on the best avaible resources unless otherwise specified with one code line? for example if I make a program on python or cpp , it automatically does stuff in one thread, meanwhile if I wanted to use more than one thread or use gpu computing, I should specify that by using other libraries and such; meanwhile what I want is something that takes care all of that for me

[junior lake]

@full fossil if you solve that problem... you'll make a TON of cash

(no) in other words 😉

[sharp bobcat]

I'm fine with shooters but I don't play much apex

also I have returned

[full fossil]

for best I mean not quithe the best possible way, but just something that does not make me waste a freak ton of time into trying to understanding how multithreading and similar libs works and automatically runs all of that in more threads

[junior lake]

@full fossil entire programming paradigms and languages have been developed to try and solve this.. 🙂

and some languages are more parallel friendly by the way they're structured.

but in particular C and C Derivatives are a pain for parallelising.

[full fossil]

I'd wish I had learnt before, and not wastig time with videogames... but hey I couldnt do otherwise I had a voodoo gradma who would fed me vinegard and wispering magic words to cure me and not send me to the doctor!

[junior lake]

and I'm just talking normal cpu parallelstuff.

gpu stuff is a whole different ball of elephants.

[manic torrent]

LOOOOOL. I fixed teams, turned off GPU acceleration

what a pile of shit

[junior lake]

Not to mention forget not the knuth "Premature optimisation is the root of all evil"

[full fossil]

unless chatgpt is bullshitting, tensorflow should have something similar (using it in place of google to avoid articles filled with bullshits)

[manic torrent]

you cannot actually use threads in pure python

[junior lake]

oh it doesn't have dispatcher stuff builtin?

[manic torrent]

it has all kinds of things, but the GIL is king. You can absolutely interface to C stuff that has threads, but you can't do it in python, per se

[junior lake]

the idea of write code once run anywhere was the great promise of java which has gone largely unrealised... for various reasons

[manic torrent]

that void is mostly filled by javascript now tbh

[junior lake]

gpu compute is particularly... different from cpu in a bunch of wierd ways (particularly i/o) and how you need to martial data in and out

[manic torrent]

for better or worse

[full fossil]

I'm not so great, but can't like an interpreter fix it?

Is there a specific chat for asking for support for a linux machine or should i just ask on forum?

[manic torrent]

probably #linux ......

[manic torrent]

you can hack around anything, there's lots of ways of doing stuff.

[full fossil]

That sounds like the correct channel... Okay

[manic torrent]

It's just a matter of understanding what you're trying to achieve, the commercial realities of the system, the limitations of the technicality, as well as the administration and overhead, blah blah etc etc.

The best programming language to use, as a rule, is the one you have staff to support, and the one you have processes for.

[junior lake]

most of the time... people are a far bigger bottleneck than the hardware

[wispy marsh]

Python itself is ST not MT right?

[small zephyr]

🤨 epic is realy weak this year

[manic torrent]

CPython, the most common implementation of python

[junior lake]

and small 'normal' optimisations should be done before reaching for parallel code and gpu compute

[manic torrent]

and more or less no optimisations should be done on the first pass, for most code 🙂

but it does depend on your use case, industry, goals, budget, etc etc

[junior lake]

I have disgusting O(n2) code that runs on gigabytes of json.. it runs in under 10 seconds on the system I'm using.

[manic torrent]

exactly. So who cares.

[junior lake]

It makes my inner cs geek die.. a little

that I'm using 4 gig of memory to summarise reports

but it's fine

most of the time ends up being I/O for most business problems

Be a little careful when walking lists of things that are likely to be big. (try to walk that list once rather than multiple times)

but there is NO win to be had in making this multithreaded on normal cpu let alone throwing GPU compute at this problem.

standup math had a interesting thing on optimisation recently he wrote some python to answer a query... that took 30 days to run.. 2hrs after the video was out someone had it under an hour.. and a week or something after that someone had it running in 700ish nanoseconds

[manic torrent]

my favourite was addressing some code that had a delay. I investigated and narrowed it down using profiling to a check to see if the user had an email setup

every 10 minutes the system would export a list of accounts that had email and write it to a file.

[full fossil]

tbh honest I was first looking at multithreading to avoid to optimize the code, so I can just dump stuff and get possible answers

[junior lake]

ROFL

the warship?

[manic torrent]

so I made it get the info from the database. Took it from 3 seconds to fractions of a second

[full fossil]

Nice 👍

[manic torrent]

yeah I used too many caps

[junior lake]

databases are very good at is this in this field

much like array.includes?(thing) is way faster than array.each do |item| (if thing == item then return true

[full fossil]

@manic torrent you listen to motionless in white?

[junior lake]

@full fossil I don't think there's a huge amount of harm in doing some sensible things in the code structure if you know something is going to be expensive. (in my case parsing 7000 json files is not cheap) but doing it once is fine.

no optimisation doesn't mean do dumb stuff .

[full fossil]

anyway, some sort of vps price comparitor ? I want to launch an ecommerce, and everything that I saw is a little bit confusing? like the give you cores but you dont know what are you getting, princing which is quite widely different

[junior lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c33AZBnRHks

[full fossil]

ah I saw that thing some time ago

[manic torrent]

if you're at that sort of level, I would get a managed service

squarespace/whatever

[manic torrent]

negative

[full fossil]

Sad

[full fossil]

I'm using one of the thousands of Django built cms like thing

so it's pretty much all free

vs stuff like WordPress where usefull plugins are all paid

[manic torrent]

yeah 'free' is relative

the biggest cost of IT is about maintenance and management

[full fossil]

indeed but I'm totally broke so I need something to raise some money, and I'm not sure if this will work

[manic torrent]

don't get me wrong, I absolutely love FOSS stuff, but it's about focusing on the things that is core business

[full fossil]

so before investing that sort of money into something
I'd rather use something that's free first

[manic torrent]

$25/mo with a free trial for a squarespace buisiness accounbt

[wispy marsh]

Foss aws

[full fossil]

besides I'm learning Django at the same time, so maybe I can recycle templates as a business (building websites)

[wispy marsh]

foss azure

[full fossil]

oh yeah you're right
I could also use aws or google
they also give free credits thanks

[wispy marsh]

PAYG FOSS

Not so free now eh

[finite cloud]

so i hit alt space by accident (using windows 11) and it brought up this spotlight knock off thing. interesting. and it behaves identical to macos

[wispy marsh]

Exit Powertoys and it'll disappear

[finite cloud]

oh that why'

i thought it was a new feature

[hollow pulsar]

Maybe it will perform an actual useful search as well?

[wary summit]

🫡

[vapid smelt]

nice ip

[wary summit]

I'm in a hotel lobby

in Hong Kong 🫡

on Google they said the internet was shit

[wary summit]

thank you ‼️‼️

[grim ravine]

lol

[neon mesa]

stackoverflow banning chatgpt is quite funny

"oh no users can now get an actual answer instead of being shamed, berated, directed to a similar question from ten years ago when the language now is entirely different, and sarcastically answered. BAN IT"

[manic torrent]

Haha, yeah it's... Interesting

The problem with stack overflow is people. Same with everything.

[neon mesa]

yeah, chatGPT do make mistakes sometimes.
but you can actually just literally tell chatgpt that the code is incorrect and it'll self-learn and correct itself

[manic torrent]

You're not wrong about the age of the answers though

I find that quite often.

It's like... Yeah that was the right answer in 2013, but ...

[limpid hamlet]

Hewwo

[neon mesa]

i accidentally made a very engaging facebook post in a pc builder group and now my notification wouldn't stop

suffering from success

[gilded quest]

G14?

[manic torrent]

Facebook needs a separate notification thing for reacts

[vapid smelt]

why are you using that data farm site?

[neon mesa]

using an entirely fake name and identity so idrc

it's quite fun in the pc enthusiasts groups

especially one with local people of my country

because these discord doesn't exists

[dreamy otter]

nice laptop though

[jaunty compass]

every mock up of a steam controller 2 i've seen just looks like an xbox controller with touchpads bolted on 💀

[dusky patrol]

Elon leaving tesla

[vapid smelt]

elon should leave earth

[dusky patrol]

That's not nice

[golden talon]

not happening

[jaunty compass]

He's definitely trying

[wraith sonnet]

@manic torrent 200 USD?

[jaunty compass]

I wouldn't call that worth it

[wraith sonnet]

Isn't that his goal?

[jaunty compass]

For that config why would you buy new

And for a file server, I'd go air cooling

[gilded quest]

"I'd like to die on Mars, just not on impact."

[wraith sonnet]

used price is 200 for it

[jaunty compass]

Again, air cooling

And frankly I'd get one of those AliExpress boards instead of the expensive ones

[wraith sonnet]

maybe I should hold off and actually try to use this board with a 750 in it

[manic torrent]

120mm AIO is garbage

but honestly... basically anything semi modern that runs will make a reasonable server

[wraith sonnet]

the issues I have with current spare parts,

proprietary mobo+psu in a tfx case, 750 system has PCI and paralel with no modern networking, and finally a windows vista system

[dusky patrol]

Mars isn't safe l8aded with iron that's where all the red comes from

Loaded*

[full fossil]

I just bought this prebuild but I realised that I need to drain the liquid like once a year or so does anybody know if this system has a valve to do so? I'm not sure what I'm looking for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YksqV0kne7w
Thanks

[vapid smelt]

https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/70130812

[manic torrent]

possibly not. I have one in my custom loop .....

[full fossil]

damn yeah I was worried about that I think it's just gonna be a little more of a pain when it comes to draining it

[manic torrent]

that look ssweeeeet though

[full fossil]

Yeah 3xs do a incredible job

[vapid smelt]

also $173

[manic torrent]

I'd probably buy one like that if I had more money and less time 🙂

[full fossil]

Pretty much my exact reasoning not much time but I could not even find a 4090 anyway so I just bought the prebuild

[vapid smelt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGJRHX1X found one

[wispy marsh]

Which thermal paste do i use?
NH-T1
MX-4
MX-6
SYY-176

[manic torrent]

Yes.

[vapid smelt]

i love the taste of mx4

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[wispy marsh]

I'm looking to dissipate long-term some components that have very high heat-density

[west sentinel]

don't choose MX5

[vapid smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BhKx0iQ4K8

[west sentinel]

the fuck is thermal pad

a memory foam for fan cooling?

[small zephyr]

🤨 i hate that office pcs are way to overpriced in germany

like 150-200bucks for optiplex with pentium or something

[vapid smelt]

its a whole $200 for a weak HP prebuilt with a 2200g and a gtx 1050ti

[small zephyr]

yeah but here in germany you basicly dont find such deals here

the ppl always want whats they paid like 10years ago

🤷‍♂️

like here they even want like 200bucks for broken 1080ti's

BROKEN meaning worthless in most cases

[leaden vale]

guys i found brand new evga 3080ti for 750usd in my country store right now is it worth to buy right now ?

[wispy marsh]

That's why it's not on the list

[shut maple]

What casing should I get under 60 usd?

[vapid smelt]

get rekt @small zephyr

[wispy marsh]

No. MOQ is 1,000 which is an amount I don't want to hoard

[vapid smelt]

they sell them in singles for $8 from 3rd parties

[small zephyr]

i found an 5050 with i5 no ram or storage for 150.....

[wispy marsh]

Hot singles for $8?

[small zephyr]

german pc hardware market is in general realy bad

[vapid smelt]

https://www.moddiy.com/products/Honeywell-PTM7950-SP-Super-Highly-Thermally-Conductive-PCM-Pad.html 6.29*

[small zephyr]

i wish we had something like microcenter

[vapid smelt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6bbTwP/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-02 65.98

[small zephyr]

the biggest electronics stores in point of hardware they have is like 1 shelf at most

the rest is like laptops

[wispy marsh]

I'll get SYY176

[vapid smelt]

ew laptops

[limpid hamlet]

Hewwo

[small zephyr]

like most germans dont want to go into building pc's they dont know how to and the dont want to know to they rather buy garbage choking prebuilds or laptops

[limpid hamlet]

I have both My custome buld and a laptop

[shut maple]

Not available in my country 🥲

https://www.techlandbd.com/computer-case

Suggest from here (budget would be under 7000 taka)

[small zephyr]

🤨 my roommate brought an used 2080ti build and dang i wish i could hit him everytime i need to do something for him since he doesnt even try to search for the faults himself

[vapid smelt]

you said USD but dont live in America

[small zephyr]

for example after it got delivered he complained to me he doesnt get shown one hdd i go to him check it he didnt even check if there was a loose cable or something

[shut maple]

I tried to make the thing easy for you 😅

https://www.montechpc.com/en/products_detail.php?nid=225

For now I'm considering this

[small zephyr]

and sata cables getting loose while shipping happens duh it was just opening the back panel and see if all cables are seated corectly... but even that seem to be too much "hardware problems" for him

🤨 haveing no idea is fine and all but the ignorance thats making me furious

[vapid smelt]

what country are you in

[shut maple]

Bangladesh

[manic torrent]

nobody wants easy, they want to make their life as difficult as possible

hang out here for any length of time and you'll see that.

[shut maple]

🗿

[vapid smelt]

its not on pcpartpicker

[shut maple]

https://www.techlandbd.com/computer-case

Suggest from here

[manic torrent]

people whoBangladesh is among the most densely populated countries in the world

[shut maple]

Budget would be under 7000 taka

[shut maple]

And I live in "Dhaka", the most dense city

[manic torrent]

It is the eighth largest and sixth most densely populated city in the world

I can read wikipedia 😄

[limpid hamlet]

Yay

[vivid cloak]

Not even on Amazon?

[magic crown]

anyone having any issues with youtube where the inline player is stuck on the top left of the homepage?

[small zephyr]

🤔 hmmm one thing is anoying about my chinese knock of pokemon shell for my switch and joy cons

they bothered to remove the nintendo logo but still kept the stupid EAC shit xD

i wish they didnt print it on

[vapid smelt]

no

[small zephyr]

🤨 only issues i have with youtube is with playlists

it doesnt acept repeat and randomise function always deactivates em the next song

[magic crown]

every youtube update is just making the platform worse

[small zephyr]

no google is fucking up youtube more and more

[magic crown]

every mega corp ever

[shut maple]

Shipping is more pricey than product

[small zephyr]

😭 ooof i should buy an lan usb adapter for my switch

wifi is so fucking slow on the switch

or maybe i buy an oled dock

[vapid smelt]

so it gets burn in

[small zephyr]

nah not the whole switch just the dock

why bother getting an oled switch if i just customized my og switch

[sharp bobcat]

[sharp bobcat]

they also made a lot of unnecessary minor changes

they literally fucking changed the tiny 1440P and 4K font color to grey

and I was like WDYM BY THAT

[small zephyr]

yeah but i basicly only want the oled dock because the are some nice mods for it and it got lan port but i saw its 80bucks used so i rather not i rather get an amazon basic lan to usb adapter for 15bucks

well kinda need an 8bitdoh stick as well

i hate the prcontrollers for switch an off brand are always kinda bad so i wanna use my series x controller xD

or my DS4

[vapid smelt]

ds4?

[small zephyr]

Dual shock 4

[vapid smelt]

my dumb ass was thinking of a nintendo ds

[small zephyr]

https://www.amazon.de/Kabellos-Bluetooth-Receiver-Raspberry-Retrofreak/dp/B07HG4WPC2 like this thingy

kinda sucks that you can only use it on pc and switch tho

like would be nice to use it on my ps4 as well to use my xbox controller on it

but now i needa get the DS5 to get a better experience

[dusky patrol]

So elon said he'd step down from tesla

[small zephyr]

i wish nintendo would start to set a standart in the e-shop O_o 90% grabage games

[dusky patrol]

Was this what he meant when he did the pull

[dusky patrol]

There's console gamers in here? I thought it was just pc lol

[small zephyr]

well it feels like the nintendo e-shop is more flooded with 0budget 99cents games as steam

at least the webstore is worse since its a nightmare to navigate in

well there are some gems in there tho

[vapid smelt]

we all know elon never told a lie

[small zephyr]

and i swear so confusing some listing.... like just dance 2023 edition it got 4 versions one is a demo labeled as just dance?

[dusky patrol]

but to before when he put the poll up asking if he should step down I don't think he meant twitter

[small zephyr]

like if its a demo label it as demo and not as just dance its as weird as the new pubg double name makes no sense

[dusky patrol]

Nevemind he did say twitter lol

[small zephyr]

lol the new pokemon design joy con shell are already on ebay for 120bucks

i basicly got em for like a pair of used joy cons including 5bucks for the shels

well lets say the used joy cons in a pair are like 40-50bucks

[dusky patrol]

Ok so this is a stupid thing to mention since I have not watched Pokémon since I was younger but I think them getting rid of ash and pikachu is bad

[zinc monolith]

True

[small zephyr]

🤷‍♂️ i never watched pokemon to begin with only played the games

[zinc monolith]

We got a legend here guys

[small zephyr]

the german dubs are terrible and even as a kid it made me feel stupid

[hot loom]

Is a 750watt psu good enough for a 6950xt and a 3700x?

[small zephyr]

dunno but it never hurts to get more like future proofing

give it a couple years an gpus will draw 1000wats itself

[hot loom]

Friend bought the card and idk if it's good enough. Don't want him to fry his shit without enough power

[vapid smelt]

such a old cpu

[small zephyr]

well i think i would go at least 800wats to be on the save side since the rx6950xt takes like 300+watt itself

[hot loom]

Yeah, but whatever. He's dealing with that later because his family bought it for him for Christmas

[dusky patrol]

@zinc monolith its just ash and pikachu have been the main mascots for so long I don't think people will like seeing the new show..

[zinc monolith]

I only remember them of what I know pokemon now

[dusky patrol]

Ash was kinda a duncetbh lol

[glass sable]

Me running a 3600 💀

[dusky patrol]

Never should let him go out on his own

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/so-slow-buffering-loading-steady-slow-moving-gif-14382934

[glass sable]

💀

[jaunty compass]

I watched indigo and orange islands
Then black and white I think

[granite finch]

hello fellow humans of the public chat

[jaunty compass]

[granite tinsel]

oh come on ryzen 3000 isn't that bad

[jaunty compass]

Wide Linus body pillow when

[granite finch]

yes it is

[jaunty compass]

I just had the idea of a body pillow but it's horizontal and it's just a super wide Linus face

[somber minnow]

ive got a g15 2022 with the 3070ti and im using a 1080p monitor as my main because its big and my eyes dont strain that much . but when im playing games the games look blurry and aliased . the textures are not crear enough and im having problems playing

[granite finch]

compared to my threadripper it is

[granite tinsel]

but that's a threadripper

[jaunty compass]

Get a 1440p monitor 🗿

[somber minnow]

i dont have the money for that RN

[granite tinsel]

1440p is the perfect sweetspot between fidelity and performance

[somber minnow]

just got the laptop and new peripherals

[granite finch]

key word "compared"

[jaunty compass]

If you have a high res TV you could always hook up to that

A 3070 ti can game at 4k just fine, especially if you reduce the settings a little

[somber minnow]

its a laptop bro

[jaunty compass]

And?

[granite tinsel]

depends on the game; if the game tries to load a lot of assets into VRAM you'll be in trouble

[somber minnow]

it can play at 1440 ez but 4k

meh

[jaunty compass]

Just lower the settings

[somber minnow]

hm probably can do that

but idont think any of the tvs in the house are above 60hz

[jaunty compass]

It's not like you can't game at 60hz

[vivid cloak]

Wah

[jaunty compass]

Just make sure the TV is on game mode

Because otherwise latency is 💀

[somber minnow]

aight ima try that

thank you bud

[granite tinsel]

dude my samsung TV's gamemode is dogwater the latency is like 30ms with it on 💀

and somewhere around 80-100 with it off too

[granite finch]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-fortnite-hoponfortnite-men-gif-21257059

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/ltt-linus-linus-tech-tips-fail-epic-gif-23732901

[granite finch]

I have a Sony - 85" Class BRAVIA XR X90K 4K HDR Full Array LED Google TV

[velvet marsh]

30ms isn’t all that bad

[forest valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1054511727762493460.gif?quality=lossless&size=64

[radiant epoch]

BOYS

is anyone in here

[graceful burrow]

No

[radiant epoch]

nah same

but guess wat

ah nevermind

[wary summit]

new gamer drink discovered

[small zephyr]

🤨 i already brought my switch like half a year ago (used) but only now i get some straps for the joy cons lol

[wary summit]

ye

[wary summit]

this is free internet, I came from Melbourne with 25mbos

🫡

[vapid smelt]

"free"

[full fossil]

what the actual fuck

someone just connected to my soundbar and started blasting shitty indian country music at full volume

[vapid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/wasnt-me-lindalee-ohno-gif-18270116

[urban vale]

sorry

[full fossil]

apartment moment

I turned off the switch as soon as I could lol

I'm alone at home and it was iin another room so it caught me off guard

[balmy lotus]

why are there so many aussies on this server lmao

it cant all be time zone

[full fossil]

I'm not an aussie , but yeah there's a lot of aussies here

[wind pulsar]

My banner is perfect

[sonic spruce]

In America?

[near otter]

ik vouw papier

[foggy geode]

kom niet zeggen dat jij meer vouwt

[near otter]

ik doe niet alles goed

maar ik weet zeker jij doet meer fout

[foggy geode]

met jack op een track

[near otter]

en jij weet dat ik ga weer goud

[wind pulsar]

Spreek Engels, thx

[foggy geode]

en me stappenvriend die snap jij niet dus ikke leer jou

[near otter]

ik heb slaaptekort want ik slaap te kort

[wind pulsar]

Idc, spreek Engels, letterlijk in de regels

[foggy geode]

habiba habiba

waarom stresss je mij a zina, a zina

ik ben op sctraat ik ben op dieven op dieven

[near otter]

laat mensen nou ff plezier hebben man, je hoeft geen politieagent te spelen en vooral niet als je geen mod bent

[foggy geode]

ik denk niet eens aan liefde, ben gefocust op verdienen

[near otter]

dus wordt niet te verliefd e

[foggy geode]

habiba habiba

[wind pulsar]

[near otter]

huileeeeeee

[wind pulsar]

<@&750150305383186585> Refusing to speak English, even after notifying

[near otter]

broer je doet zo pauper tof voor saus

[foggy geode]

we are only singing a song

Habiba, by boef

[wary summit]

Hong Kong

[full fossil]

Can anyone help me

#tech-chat-2

[wind pulsar]

Idk mate, that doesn't look English to me

[manic torrent]

I have 100/40 in Melbourne

[wary summit]

yea well, I get free 400🤷‍♂️ they give it to you in the lobby

and the CBD has a WiFi 6E mesh system 🫡

9HKD - 1gbps

[manic torrent]

Oh shiiiiiiiii

[wary summit]

all wifi 6 lmao

there's also so many Teslas wtf

[small zephyr]

wow ubisoft.... 3 songs in just dance and now you give unskipable unlimited add

[dim lava]

good morning

[dusky patrol]

Maybe this is wishful thinking but is there a good smart watch that's like 200 or less

[dim lava]

not sure all the android ones seems a bit meh but it also depends on ur usecases

[dusky patrol]

Do most monitor your heart rate or only some

[dim lava]

from what i saw recently when i was looking for one for my dad most of them yes but depending on the watch they used different methods some more or less accurate

[dusky patrol]

Maybe have hydration detection l

[dusky patrol]

Sorry I don't I'd this should be in the tech channel

[stuck stratus]

I'd just get a nice casio or something for under $200

[dim lava]

labs should test them once they have facilities ready because every website i visited said something slightly different for the same watch, it is a very confusing market imo

[wary summit]

TicWatch E3

have it is good, try ultra if you can they do sales

only regret for E3 is it's LCD

AOD

[dim lava]

it is on 100$ sale right now it seems u are right

[wary summit]

has a browser that you can use without a phone

[wary summit]

yea I bought it for $180 AUD

4th gen TicWatch is coming out maybe wait for that it'll have Snapdragon Wear 5th gen

and will be cheaper and better than Samsung and Pixel

Fossil is great if you want something that looks classic

this is 20 min of walking around and actually having time to pull out my phone and take a photo

[dim lava]

Nice edit

[small zephyr]

okay just dance was a good decision

great for a work out lol

[past egret]

anyone got a flipper zero

[plain pecan]

hey

[wanton glade]

yo guys how much hours to finish horizon zero dawn ?

[manic torrent]

7

[wanton glade]

💀

[full fossil]

Is 600w psu enough for rtx 3060?

[full fossil]

Yes

I got a 3080 ti and a 10900k and i don’t even pull 600

I only got amd ryzen 5 2600

Ur chilling

2 ssds and 1 hdd

Ok thx

[small zephyr]

😂 okay just dance is awesome hatsune miku an sentai xD

i played last time in wii times there wasnt such songs back then lmao

[manic torrent]

overclock the shit out of it and you will

[full fossil]

Definitely

[manic torrent]

but yeah, 600W is plenty for a 3060

[full fossil]

Is it worth getting a 980 pro

[manic torrent]

only you can answer that question

[tulip tusk]

yeah ig

Actually, its on you

[tulip tusk]

With the non-pro you save bucks for for the sake of losing some speed of the ssd

[neon mesa]

still trying to get a buyer for my 6600xt 😩
why are these so undesireable even at bargain bin prices

[tulip tusk]

bc rx7000

[neon mesa]

6600xt is on a whole different bracket of consumer....

one is a $300 card, the other is 900

[tulip tusk]

hm

[neon mesa]

irrelevant

[tulip tusk]

tf

[neon mesa]

7600xt likely won't release until next year

[tulip tusk]

oh well

Generally it seems that demand is low

[neon mesa]

people be buying 3060s at 100 more

[tulip tusk]

3060s still sell for 500€ even after the GPU crash

[neon mesa]

AMD is generally not very useful outside of gaming

[tulip tusk]

that's why decided to just give up on pc parts and save for a laptop in the meanwhile

[tulip tusk]

this is another issue

[neon mesa]

the very reason i'm selling this card anyway

and willing to downgrade to a 1080ti or 2060 super

[tulip tusk]

Unless they update their drivers, AMD rlly isn't that of a good option

[manic torrent]

garbage

[neon mesa]

any graphics card is shit if not updated

[manic torrent]

AMD drivers are fine.

[tulip tusk]

I meant updating their drivers so they can compete with the same as the Nvidia drivers

[manic torrent]

I am sitting here with a 6600XT egpu and a 3080ti, so I have both, and I can tell you.... meh.

[tulip tusk]

oh wait

[tulip tusk]

encoders*

[manic torrent]

hahahahah

[tulip tusk]

i used the wrong word

[manic torrent]

ok, that's a thing, lol, totally different story

[tulip tusk]

sheesh

im glad school is over

3 weeks of holidays

[neon mesa]

encoders are fine

it's just shit at exporting video

not stream

[latent ibex]

how much should i resale an old pc that is 6 years old with 1080ti and i7 - 7700K alienware prebuild? like how much reduction should it be? 50% less? or 60% from og purchased price

like a general idea

not too specific

[distant wren]

well how much would you buy one from? look on 2nd handed websites

and see the price 🤷‍♂️ usually you are not the only one selling such a system

1080TI is 250 euro 2nd handed. (dutch market asking price) could be 200 selling price.

I7 7700K is 150 euro 2nd handed.

so I would say around 400-600 euro for the pc? pending on the other parts

[latent ibex]

ah ok yeah that seems about right tbh

[gaunt urchin]

how do you play the og doom games from eternal (ie. how do you play the WAD's)

[distant wren]

?? with a mouse and keyboard?

[gaunt urchin]

how do you open the wad files from doom eternal

SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DOOMEternal\base\classicwads\DOOM.WAD

[distant wren]

https://fileinfo.com/extension/wad

probably SLADE? program

could be you need to rename it to WAD2 first before able to use it

[gaunt urchin]

can slade actually run the doom 1 and 2 files, because my goal is to play doom 1 and 2

[distant wren]

it can be run. depending on what it is

please be more specific and use less acronyms, s. t. a. h. t.(since they are hard to) read.
And use less vague words like this and that, since these words are hard to decypher.

[gaunt urchin]

i didn't use any acronyms

[distant wren]

Sentence before, but okay, but your goal is to run Doom? Well download Doom and run Dosbox emulator (windows pc assumption since no OS is given)

[gaunt urchin]

windows is correct

where do i download doom 1 and 2

[distant wren]

Download dosbox and run whatever game you want from the 90's era.

[distant wren]

Cannot give you any answers on that since thats against Terms of Service on any / most platforms.

but you could buy it on Steam 🤷‍♂️

[gaunt urchin]

is there any way to play it with modern control schemes

[distant wren]

change keys?

edit key configuration? 🤷‍♂️ no clue, have to boot up game to look into it

[gaunt urchin]

there isn't any option

[distant wren]

well time to go on google! type in keywords and enjoy the ride to your goal

[gaunt urchin]

thank you for your time

[distant wren]

No problem , this is al I can do without installing the game myself and knowing what you are on about.

[dreamy rose]

AMD is better there too. on the CPU Side at least, RTX 4000 mobile is gonna be a bit shit so wont be suprised if AMD chips are liked more this gen

[tulip tusk]

i rlly don't have the money to get a laptop for an RTX Mobile laptop....

[distant wren]

Intel is pretty decent on the mobile laptop chip market 🤔 interestingly enough

[dreamy rose]

battery life and efficiency go hand in hand and well. they suck at both.

AMD does better on battery while intel just cant help but suck power down due to E cores

[distant wren]

This really depends on each Laptop specifically , and can change 🤷‍♂️

[dreamy rose]

generally same class CPUs on models with the same battery capacity will favor AMD or battery life.

intel still gets all the Advertising and all the sales regardless of how good AMD actually is

[distant wren]

good marketing !

[wanton glade]

fr tho, intel laptops suck ass

amd forevah bois

[sour tangle]

Forsen

[odd prairie]

Has anyone else noticed YouTube giving a considerable amount of extra ads lately?

[gilded plinth]

Yeah, it's insane

[odd prairie]

I’m about ready to start looking into ad blockers for iOS phones

[full fossil]

Is a PSU with the new ATX standard necessary for a 4090? I'm considering pulling the trigger on this Corsair build and I'm going to assume it doesn't have one

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Systems/CORSAIR-VENGEANCE-Series-Gaming-PC/p/CS-9050047-NA

Like obviously it's not necessary otherwise they wouldn't be selling but I don't know if something I really should want

[celest vine]

guys i got a 3070 for 624 at walmart i was gonna return it after i ran some bench marks but should i keep it or return it and get a 6800

[gilded quest]

idk how people watch youtube without premium tbh

[gilded quest]

You do not need a PSU with the 16-pin 12VHWPR connector for a 4090. Corsair has some certified ATX 3.0 models without the 16 pin cable; instead they opt for dual 8-pin to 16-pin 12VHPWR

[full fossil]

Follow up, does that particular build seem like a good buy?

[gilded quest]

However; I do not know if the prebuilt uses a Corsair Type-4 12VHWPR (dual 8-pin to 16-pin); or if they simply used the Nvidia Adapter to regular 8 pins.

[sterile lake]

My PC has a 3060 I mined on for a bit (no over volting) I feel like it is slower then a 3060 should be, should I be worried?

[full fossil]

I doubt it, I'd try doing some benchmarks instead of just how you feel

Worst case you might have to replace the thermal paste on it, just watch the temps

[sterile lake]

I am getting 100 fps on minecraft. Don't think that is 3060 performance

[full fossil]

It could be thermal throttling but I don't think you can physically damage it or slow it down

[sterile lake]

I have though seen the gpu only use 50% 75% best case

[full fossil]

Oh yeah something is wrong there. But that could also be from something else capping your GPU usage, not necessarily the GPU itself

I've had that same problem on MC but I'll be honest I don't remember how I fixed it

[sterile lake]

I do have 80 mods buuut idk

I think I should have mentioned that

[full fossil]

Well that could definitely affect it lol

[gilded quest]

You do pay a premium for pre-built; however it is 100% standard DIY components, which will make it super easy to upgrade in the future.

[full fossil]

MC is more CPU intensive than GPU so that's why it's not using a lot of your GPU

[sterile lake]

but I am also getting low GPU usage in msfs

[full fossil]

You think that is worth 4k?

[gilded quest]

Do you want to build one yourself?

[full fossil]

It's also kinda convenient for me because I can pay for it monthly and get it now

[full fossil]

Truthfully? No not really

Just the cable management being done is enough to make it worth for me

[sterile lake]

About 70%, goes down to 10% when I don't do anything for a few minutes and I need to not go afk

[gilded quest]

If you don't want to build yourself; then its a pretty good option

[signal mountain]

Is a solid oak desk or a metal desk better in your opinion? If you only got room for one

[full fossil]

Wood is always nicer

[gilded quest]

plus all the warranty goes through corsair, which is convenient

[full fossil]

Yeah this too, I wouldn't have to worry about tracking down RMAs for individual parts

[signal mountain]

Ohh okay I will think about it, hard choice lol

[full fossil]

Only thing I would do is put a separate boot drive in it and reinstall windows, I don't like that it only comes with one

[gilded quest]

you should be able to add additional drives fairly easily

[full fossil]

I can't configure it to have two unfortunately from their page

[signal mountain]

How? Any pc thats a pentium 4 or newer can run vanilla mc like a breeze in my experience

[full fossil]

Would that 1000W PSU handle all that plus an additional drive? I feel like it's pushing it

With a 13900 and a 4090

[signal mountain]

Except if your psu doesn't have enough ide/sata power connectors

[sterile lake]

80 mods*

[full fossil]

It would be another NVME

[gilded quest]

ssds use like no power

[full fossil]

It would be another NVME if that matters

[gilded quest]

ssds use like no power

[signal mountain]

Even then, mc doesn't take much to run, I used to play a big 300 mods modpack on a 2009 pc

[full fossil]

But I just mean in general is a 1000W enough for all that? The drive aside. Seems like a 1000W is close

[gilded quest]

miliwatts on idle; maybe a few watts under heavy writes

[full fossil]

I'd be worried about instability at some point with that card and CPU

[sterile lake]

I have no idea I got a R5 3600

[gilded quest]

1000W should be fine
is this for gaming?

[full fossil]

Like I said obviously if it was major that wouldn't be selling it, I trust Corsair to be testing their stuff but idk

[signal mountain]

Aka, if your pc can watch 720p videos on youtube, you can run minecraft

[gilded quest]

gaming you are rarely maxing gpu and cpu at the same time

[full fossil]

Gaming and streaming until I can set up a dual PC

[gilded quest]

and by rarely, i really mean never

[signal mountain]

I often do on my second pc

[gilded quest]

I think 1000W will be fine

[full fossil]

Would be using NVENC for encoding

[gilded quest]

iirc the FE 4090 doesn't use more than 500W or something?

[signal mountain]

Electricity bills go brrrrrr

[sterile lake]

I watch at 4k just fine

[gilded quest]

🇺🇸

[sterile lake]

before my cat broke my monitor

[full fossil]

I hope it's enough because I can't find any UPSs that are rated for more than 1000W

[signal mountain]

Then obviously you can play videogames, and I usually watch YT at 480p since I can't see the difference between 480p and 4k on my setup

[full fossil]

I just bought one and any that go higher than that are like industrial/business use and they are astronomically expensive

[signal mountain]

Crt masterrace checking in

[sterile lake]

Then why is mc so slow

[signal mountain]

Oh lol

[sterile lake]

same for msfs

[gilded quest]

thats probably fine
UPS really exists to make sure you can do a safe shutdown

if you lose power, close any games and you should have plenty of time for a safe shutdown

[full fossil]

True

[signal mountain]

Check your ingame settings, and are you also using shaders and / or a high res resolution pack?

[sterile lake]

I use SUES PTGI with RTX modded in

[full fossil]

Well I might mull it over for a bit but that's one of the better deals I've seen for a 4090 and arguably the most convenient and from a reputable company

[sterile lake]

but still 😦

[signal mountain]

Yea, shaders often can drop mc from like 500fps to 30fps, because of bad coding

[full fossil]

My patience is too thin for building these days, I just want something I can turn on and use

[signal mountain]

no surprise there

[sterile lake]

without shaders I can get 120 fps

[gilded quest]

i feel that

[sterile lake]

I dont use performace enhancers tho if needed

[signal mountain]

Finding a pre built with enough storage and a good gpu is hard

[full fossil]

Like I said I'll have to set up another drive and reinstall windows but otherwise it'll just work. Maybe a BIOS update

[signal mountain]

Did you turn off your vsync? And set your fps in mc to "unlimited" ?

[sterile lake]

yup

[full fossil]

I mean that one I'm considering is dang good imo. Comes with a 2TB NVME

[sterile lake]

wait no

v-sync is on

[gilded quest]

luckily storage is one of the easiest things to add

[sterile lake]

ima go tho ill solve this later

[signal mountain]

It doesn't hurt to get additional storage though

[full fossil]

And a lot of people are reporting good things with the hardware lottery. For the 4090 people are getting FEs, Zotacs, like good stuff

[signal mountain]

How do you add more than 3 hdds in an atx case?

Because I can't in all of mines

[signal mountain]

ohh that explains it

[full fossil]

Biggest question is why are you using HDDs

[signal mountain]

I can often find 500gb hdds for like $2, while even the smallest ssd would cost like $30 used

[full fossil]

They're good for RAIDs on like a server but otherwise I won't touch an HDD anymore. The cost is worth it

[signal mountain]

And I love how hdds sound

[wispy marsh]

Tick tick tick tick

[gilded quest]

ssds lol

[signal mountain]

Okay, then how do you store TBs of videos and games? Lol

[wispy marsh]

I was doomscrolling through reddit and there was a link to wikipedia page about the japanese Unit 731, officially known as the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department of the Kwantung Army

It has so much history of the japanese

[gilded quest]

IMO if you need a lot of bulk storage.....a NAS is a better option

[signal mountain]

I thought that you mounted them as hdds, except for nvme ones, which usually only one fits on a mobo

[full fossil]

I don't store that much data, I uninstall games I don't use

[signal mountain]

Eh, it costs a fair bit, vs having a ton of random internal and external hdds

[gilded quest]

2.5" ssds can just be shoved without mounts tbh

[full fossil]

Like all I keep on my drives is my OS, Games I'm actually playing, and photos/videos I'm using for active YouTube projects or like OBS assets

[mint yacht]

Used or new..?

[signal mountain]

But redownloading the game would take forever, and also , how about other things? Like downloaded music and such

[full fossil]

Otherwise it gets deleted. The VERY important stuff like sentimental photos go in cloud storage

[signal mountain]

Ofc used, im not a fool to spend $100 on storage lol

[full fossil]

Who downloads music in 2022

[mint yacht]

And you trust your data on used hard drives?

[signal mountain]

How? Pc cases only have 5.25" slots and 3.5" ones

[signal mountain]

Me, I don't trust online stuff, and I like to go "offline" at times

[gilded quest]

if you simply want to keep your whole steam library local, then big HDDs in your chassis is fine

but if you want to store videos and files and media projects, etc, a NAS with a raid setup is a more ideal solution

[dense coral]

I find it's somewhat common to use a single NVMe to store the OS and important applications and then just have everything else running on HDDs in RAID. I still want to do that when I upgrade my PC.

[signal mountain]

I prefer to keep my music and such, forever until I delete it, not until the service, like spotify, deletes it

[full fossil]

And as far as redownloading games, I have gigabit internet lol

[gilded quest]

literally you don't need to attach SATA ssds to your chassis. they can just hang. or you can sticky tape them

[full fossil]

Took me twenty minutes to install Darktide the other day

[signal mountain]

I use crystaldiskmark to check if its dying, and also store copies of important files on spare hdds

[signal mountain]

Ohhh I understand and yea while it sounds good, finding a used NAS for dirt cheap isnt possible

[dense coral]

Because it is a crap ton more cost efficient

[full fossil]

Ain't a single piece of PC hardware I will buy used and y'all are brave for doing so

[signal mountain]

That seems janky though haha

[gilded quest]

use old pc hardware instead of a "traditional" nas system

[gilded quest]

ehhhh it works. especially double sided tape

[mint yacht]

My current entire PC is used except the SSD, CPU and case :)

[signal mountain]

I mean if it costs under $10, whats the biggest risk?

[full fossil]

I mean yeah if you paid next to nothing for it go ahead but I just wouldn't trust it to last

[signal mountain]

ohh alright then, will do

[full fossil]

But some people over charge for used stuff

And then the buyer gets surprised when it dies

[signal mountain]

Eh, most of my computers/peripherals are from the 70s-90s and still work great

[full fossil]

Well yeah stuff was built better back then

Our stuff now is planned obsolescence

[gilded quest]

stuff was also a lot more expensive back then when it comes to tech

[full fossil]

But me as a single consumer can't change that so I have to play the game

[signal mountain]

Definitely , and things like old monitors/mice/keyboards (about computers) don't really ever become obselete

[gilded quest]

ehhhhhh

[full fossil]

Other than the connectors not working for modern stuff but yeah, they kinda last forever

[signal mountain]

You could use old, built as a tank peripherals though, on a modern pc

[gilded quest]

i wouldn't want to use an old monitor, personally

[full fossil]

You'd need some kind of adapters for certain things but yeah

[signal mountain]

That's where adapters come in, I managed to hook up a 70s crt tv to a modern pc with a few adapters lol

[signal mountain]

And that was better, its better to save up for something that will last, vs spending $1k every couple years on disposables

Like that vimes boot theory

[gilded quest]

i spent $400 on some monitors 7 years ago and they're still functioning like new

[signal mountain]

Why not? Ever since vga came out, its basically the same, and I usually use 1024x768 at most

[gilded quest]

but ive since given them to family

[gilded quest]

New monitors and undeniably better for media consumption with fantastic color, HDR, brightness, and contrast

[signal mountain]

Thats surprising, since modern flatscreens are often flimsy (I got some free ones before, and tested their durability)

[gilded quest]

I take care of my stuff.

And Dell makes solid af monitors

[hollow zealot]

Flimsy ≠ low quality

[signal mountain]

Maybe to some, but to me, not really, I prefer using crts (Currently on a pvm monitor), and flatscreens can't recreate that warm nostalgic feeling of watching tv and lazing around on a saturday afternoon

[signal mountain]

I will eat my hat if a modern dell monitor can withstand being whacked (with a fist)

[signal mountain]

Often is true, especially for monitors/computers where size is not important, unlike phones

[hollow zealot]

A 75" OLED tv isn't flimsy because it's cheap
It's flimsy because it's built to be lightweight
"Being whacked" is not a use case of a monitor and there's no major need for them to be built to withstand that

[gilded quest]

Why the fuck are you punching your tech

[signal mountain]

I do when I get angry, and also, I whack my computer if the hdd locks up and things freeze for a few mins, and also, it feels nice to do it gently

percussive maintenance is a thing

[hollow zealot]

That's definitely not a common use case or a common way to repair anything

[gilded quest]

Have you tried anger management therapy?

[full fossil]

What realistically would be any performance benefit going from 64Gb of ram to 128

[signal mountain]

Or because its meant to be disposable, I doubt that a modern oled tv will last 50 years like crt ones do

[hollow zealot]

What do you use your PC for

[mint yacht]

No performance to be gained

[red breach]

you'd have to need more than 64gb of RAM, which is unlikely lol

[gilded quest]

If you are doing gaming/streaming/office work; no.

[full fossil]

Gaming/streaming and then video editing with premiere

So thus rendering

[red breach]

nah

premiere's sweet spot is like 32gb

[wispy marsh]

Fat rendering

[gilded quest]

32GB is probably fine, 64GB is more than enough

[signal mountain]

Yea, im not a genius who knows how to solder tiny components in modernish hardware, if its mechanical and stuck, give it a good whack

[red breach]

unless you're dealing with massive 8k footage or something

[wispy marsh]

Just like hip implants on the elderly?

[gilded quest]

https://tenor.com/view/mechanic-hammer-trust-me-im-a-mechanic-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-gif-7525096

[full fossil]

That prebuilt I'm looking at comes with 2x32 so I can upgrade in the future if I really wanted

[signal mountain]

Im not into this modern trend of talking to your shrink whenever you are mildly upset

[red breach]

I mean, don't buy a prebuilt

[signal mountain]

Lol no

[gilded quest]

Violence isn't the answer either

[full fossil]

I can't find parts for anywhere near MSRP, It's literally cheaper to buy a prebuilt in this market

[hollow zealot]

The target audience of an OLED TV is more than likely to upgrade their device after several years

[red breach]

are you not in the US?

[full fossil]

And more convenient

[signal mountain]

Correct, Violence is a question

[full fossil]

Yes

[red breach]

Yeah, fuck that. My C8 got severe burn in

[gilded quest]

i hope you don't have children

[red breach]

like 4 years in, was NOT happy or planning on replacing it that quickly. fortunately leaning on LG got me a new panel for free but, the whole process sucked

[signal mountain]

Sadly, people these days have a disposable mindset, I prefer to keep my old tech until they die, or I die

[red breach]

what parts do you want? everything is in stock and available online

[full fossil]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Systems/CORSAIR-VENGEANCE-Series-Gaming-PC/p/CS-9050047-NA

Build me that for cheaper, with parts that are actually in stock, and I'll believe you

[hollow zealot]

I'm an HVAC technician and I never just whack analog machinery because it doesn't work

[signal mountain]

Who

[gilded quest]

my c9 is still looking like new

but it is not used as a "daily monitor"

[signal mountain]

Well if its your job, ofc, especially if you are knowledgable about it, but what if you are an average joe, with a knack at computing? And your pc keeps freezing and locking up

[full fossil]

Anything that starts working again after hitting it is just pure chance

You're more likely to make it worse

[hollow zealot]

Personally I'm looking forward to microled

[full fossil]

My parents hit me and now I'm depressed and mildly autistic

[signal mountain]

Yea true, its still worth a try, its how I "fixed" 2 of my old vcrs and unfreeze my current pc

[hollow zealot]

If I didn't know how to fix something, I'd try to contact someone that does
That's why I have a job, people need help so I come help them

[signal mountain]

Damn, lol yea it doesnt work on living things

[signal mountain]

Not everything is rich enough to afford that for every small hiccup that their electronics have, but yea I see your point if its something too hard to fix

[full fossil]

Yeah my ass is building cheaper. In NO universe am I paying 1k over MSRP for a card. Is that a joke?

https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-GeForce-Founders-Graphics-GDDR6X/dp/B0BJFRT43X

[hollow zealot]

My guy you're sending messages in an extremely large server full of people willing to help

[full fossil]

I will never pay a dime over MSRP for any piece of hardware. I won't give these scalping a holes the satisfaction

[signal mountain]

What if its something , like my hdd keeps freezing up and sometimes, crash my entire pc (not even a bsod)? Im not sure how would anyone fix it

because my old hdd keeps doing it

[red breach]

you're stupid if you're paying over MSRP on a 4090 considering I just walked out of microcenter earlier today and there were 5+ on the shelf

you can join a waitlist, get it in 2 weeks now

[full fossil]

My closest microcenter (2 and a half hours away) doesn't have them, like they aren't even listed as out of stock they just aren't there lol

[hollow zealot]

Diagnosis comes before repair

[signal mountain]

I have already diagnosed that this hdd is the problem, occasionally, but then I don't have a spare sata hdd for this modern pc (only got ide ones), and doing things like defragging, sfc scannow , etc doesn't help

[full fossil]

So when I can get a fully build PC, already cable managed, full warranty and support, for $4k, not a bad deal. Comes with 13900K, 4090, z690 board, 64 gigs of dominator ram and a 1000W PSU, a copy of windows 11 pro

When it would cost me 2500 just for the GPU lol. I'll pass on that

And I'm not driving to Mordor just to find a microcenter that stocks them

[red breach]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m2m43y even paying $1800 which is too much for a 4090, joining ASUS's 1-2 week waitlist like

[full fossil]

Right

[gilded quest]

Just get the vengeance

[full fossil]

So like I'm usually someone against prebuilts, trust me. But it's genuinely a better deal in this market unfortunately

[signal mountain]

I would just wait until the 4090 becomes obselete lol /s

[vapid crown]

Since I'm planning on getting the 4080 anyways, should I order a cablemod for it ahead of time?

[full fossil]

And at least Corsair is reputable

[red breach]

yeah, also, just, don't go with a 4090 kek

[gilded quest]

There are good prebuilts and bad prebuilts

[signal mountain]

Oftentime, prebuilts use a custom oem psu , or case though, which is annoying

[gilded quest]

Yeah as long as it isn't an OEM system

[red breach]

you're not going to see the performance you're imagining, it's certainly not double the $700 3080 you could otherwise pop in there

[full fossil]

I mean why not, if I'm going to spend the money I might as well get the tip top. Ive always had the bottom tier cards, I want something nice for a change

[gilded quest]

We roast Alienware buyers here

[full fossil]

I'm upgrading from a 2060 lol

[red breach]

I mean, what's the rest of your rig?

[signal mountain]

Theres no reason to imo, even a gtx 980 ti is still great now, let alone an rtx gpu

[gilded quest]

I went from a 960 to a 1080Ti. Was life changing

[full fossil]

You're stuck in the past lol

[full fossil]

9900k with a 2060 and 32GB of ddr4

It's old

[signal mountain]

Lol, Im still using a pentium g630 with the igpu on my modern pc, because I got scammed a few times buying a gpu

[hearty creek]

Rn going from a a 920mx to an 3050 mobile, it will be game changing

[red breach]

9900k could run a much faster GPU

[full fossil]

With a gigabyte motherboard which I will NEVER ever buy again. Gigabyte software is crap

[red breach]

the 9900k isn't the old part of that loolol

[dense coral]

Okay but are you going to use that top-tier card?

[signal mountain]

Asus is pretty good

[full fossil]

Not really without bottlenecking it can't

[dense coral]

Because if you don't need it then it's not worth spending that much extra money on it

[red breach]

don't even know what that word means bro

[normal atlas]

Is it worth it to upgrade from a S20 FE to a Pixel 7?

[full fossil]

There's a big difference between "it can run it" and "if can run the card and use it's full capacity"

[hollow zealot]

We should ban the word bottleneck

[dense coral]

That's what I'm trying to say my friend

[signal mountain]

Lol, old, thats more computing power than all 20 of my computers

[full fossil]

Yes. I'm going to be buying a Neo G9 monitor or something along that line, while streaming with it

[dense coral]

You are acting as if you're buying the most expensive card "just because" but you don't seem to have a real need to use it

[gilded quest]

Bruh no

[dense coral]

You don't need a 4090 for that

[gilded quest]

Samsung monitor quality ain't it

[red breach]

a 9900K will find itself GPU bound with cards as strong as a 3080

[gilded quest]

Alienware QD OLED, on the other hand...

[hollow zealot]

If you have diagnosed the issue and you can't replace the drive because you don't have one that would work, that's become no issue but one for you to solve by buying a drive

[signal mountain]

Samsung used to be good

[red breach]

you really don't know what a bottleneck is if you think your 9900k is being used by it's full capacity with a 2060

[full fossil]

And besides I need to upgrade in the next year or two anyways considering W10 will be phased out and my current build is having constant trouble with W11 so I'm reverting

So I need a new board/CPU that can actually use w11

[gilded quest]

I've seen a lot of users complain about bad Samsung firmware, and just cheap build quality

[dense coral]

I mean your money is your money, but I don't think the exorbitant amounts of money you are spending on that card is necessary

[full fossil]

Any good way to measure power consumption of a pc without a wall reader? I’ve heard of Corsair link but many people are saying it’s inaccurate

[red breach]

w10 is fully supported on 9th gen, you're not going to find 11 better on a newer CPU

[gilded quest]

Dell has excellent build quality for monitors

[full fossil]

I didn't say my 2060 is the bottleneck, I'm saying if I go too much higher of a card there will be

[red breach]

11 is just trash, we're all going to die before 2025 when 10 support ends so it doesn't matter anyway

[hollow zealot]

I personally had no issues with my budget Samsung monitor, but I understand why it wouldn't be very good at a higher price point

[red breach]

you really won't, toss a 3080 into your rig and save $3000

[signal mountain]

Yea I suppose your right, but man its annoying that this pc does not have ide for my other spare drives lol. Im using this old 80gb sata hdd as a secondary boot device and storage

[full fossil]

Honestly I like the feel of W11 but I'm having bugs with it freezing and stuff

[gilded quest]

I use a Corsair HXi PSU and I think it's fairly accurate. The Wall power is an estimate, but it gives accurate readings for DC power sent to PC across each voltage rail. All can be monitored in iCUE

[red breach]

that won't go away with 13th gen. that's just 11

[signal mountain]

That's odd, samsung syncmaster monitors were pretty okay iirc

[full fossil]

Thank you

[gilded quest]

But how long ago was that

[signal mountain]

win 11 is just a bug

[signal mountain]

Around y2k or so

[gilded quest]

Samsung monitors these days just feel so....flimsy

[gilded quest]

No problem

[signal mountain]

Thats really sad, dang. But then finding a modern monitor which isnt flimsy is not really possible, regardless of budget

[hollow zealot]

They're very flimsy and the osd is annoying and slow

[full fossil]

Idk like if I'm going to spend the money I want to go all the way and have a future proof build for a while. I've been gaming on a 1080p with the lowest gen card for a while. My CPU is dated

[hollow zealot]

And before you say anything pork, the reason they're flimsy is the parts that hold all of the weight are crap

[signal mountain]

Finding a unplayed old game is like playing a new game to me

[signal mountain]

I know what you mean, and yea thats unfortunate

[hollow zealot]

So I was in a similar spot as you earlier this year
I ended up not buying a high end card that way I could balance out everything out
If you buy a high end GPU, you're dropping a ton of money that could have been spent elsewhere

For me it was a $500 difference which allowed me to pick up a neat second monitor

[vapid crown]

I JUST ORDERED A 4080!!!

[hollow zealot]

I'd say playing on medium-high settings for AAA games on 1080p was worth it
(I have a 3060 TI)

[vapid crown]

IM SHAKING

[hollow zealot]

Hope you didn't get scammed out of a good price

[full fossil]

Like what

[vapid crown]

BestBuy $1200 pickup today

[full fossil]

I already have 3 monitors one of which is a 360hz, I play competitive titles

[latent radish]

just upgraded to 16gb ram

had 8gb ram before

[hollow zealot]

Like a new monitor, a new headset, new mic, ect

[full fossil]

Eh. I'd rather put the money into the build

[devout grail]

BestBuy delivery tomarrow 👍

[hollow zealot]

I mean, you could probably spec out a new CPU/Mobo and GPU that would work fine at 1080p

My opinion is just don't spend money you don't need to

[full fossil]

I don't NEED to spend any money, that's the thing

My PC isn't dying or anything

I just want something nice for a change and not something that's "ok and it's all I can afford". I actually make decent money now

[hollow zealot]

Well,
If I was looking for top of the line gpu, I'd personally be waiting for AMD's

(to come in stock)

[full fossil]

I don't think I'll ever own AMD anything personally

[dense coral]

Things change.

[hollow zealot]

Amazing performance at a lower price just kinda speaks more to me

[dense coral]

You could find yourself with an AMD gpu in no time especially when newer generations come out

[hollow zealot]

I never use ray tracing and that's probably the only big drawback that would apply to me

In the end you can do what you want, it's your decision
That's just my opinion

[jade lantern]

In VR it's used a lot
Or at least in the games I play

[stoic beacon]

I guarantee you there is no ray tracing in VR games at the moment lol.

[hollow zealot]

That's interesting, I've not touched vr quite yet due to space restrictions
How's it usually used in VR? Just for what it would be used for in regular games?

[jade lantern]

Doesn't beat saber ray trace the blocks and things at the floor

[stoic beacon]

No, those are just normal reflection mappings

[jade lantern]

Oh

[hearty creek]

I wish there was a Zen 4 Ryzen 3... or just a cheaper Ryzen 5

[jade lantern]

What's the difference between that and ray tracing

[stoic beacon]

Ray tracing is real time light casting all the way from light source through reflections/shadows, etc. Most games utilize prebaked lightmaps that allow reflections to move across them in real time, but the light source is still not real time ray tracing there

The more detailed your game is, the more drastic the difference between ray traced and not ray traced will be

[hollow zealot]

Personally I'm looking forwards to any more 3d chips
I don't understand at all how they're so good but the performance is wild to look at

[hearty creek]

AMD is really the value king in the GPU market, but I can't say the same for the CPU market.
Obv they are a really good value but i5s are really really good value still

[hollow zealot]

I mean the 13th gen i5 beats out my 12th gen i7

But as far as I can tell, the 5800x3d(?) has some wild performance gains in some games that interest me
(Star Citizen being the main one)

But that's super niche use case and doesn't really make the chip better than everything

[stoic beacon]

12600k and 13600k are both very good...12700k and 13700k are also great

[full fossil]

Not very good if you drop it

[dense nymph]

any good cheappppp boom arms ( like under 20 pounds)

[graceful burrow]

Stop crossposting

[dense nymph]

didnt know i wasnt allowed to

[graceful burrow]

[dense nymph]

🙊

[graceful burrow]

"how was I supposed to know I wasn't supposed to spam???"

[dense nymph]

hey hey

thats not nice

[graceful burrow]

True

[finite cloud]

When you realize a server has rules

[dense nymph]

[full fossil]

[rancid blaze]

how can i enter to the 3CX live chat thing with the ltt stuff support

[graceful burrow]

3cx?

[full fossil]

Newest Video

I guess u cant

[graceful burrow]

That wasn't a thing here afaik kek

I do have most of the channels hidden tho but it doesn't hide newly made channels

Ah I c
Keep up with their Twitter for stuff like that
Nothing interesting happens here

[rancid blaze]

why i cant? so whats the point of doing the video and saying that you can call them?

[graceful burrow]

Because the video is done

And made
And probably shot weeks ago

[rancid blaze]

so why would he say that 💀
wtf linus

[graceful burrow]

He didn't so far in the video I've seen

He said he did
Not that you could

[tacit falcon]

Silly Q, can you use DDR4 ram in DDR3 slot knowing it'll be at slower speeds?!?

[stoic beacon]

Honestly, they probably should have just not posted the video. While they were at it, should delete the channel and sacrifice their dog as well

[graceful burrow]

No.

[rancid blaze]

Thanks to 3CX for sponsoring this video! You can learn more about their live chat at: //www.3cx.com/live-chat/free/?s...

[graceful burrow]

That's about the 3cx service to integrate it into your website

[marsh dove]

Dude I bought a 3k usd laptop and
the headphone jack is broken lol

[leaden gale]

RMA now

[graceful burrow]

Not to use ltt support lmao

[rancid blaze]

oh,but he did that before a year,and i tried even then to enter and i couldnt , pls help

[graceful burrow]

You cannot. They are not doing anything like that at the moment.

[rancid blaze]

Talk with the LTT support 🤷

[graceful burrow]

To get ltt support like viewers did in the latest ltt video

[rancid blaze]

exactly

[graceful burrow]

He wants tech support
Watch the video before commenting further

[leaden gale]

Because he want talk to

[graceful burrow]

Like I said

You dont
Case closed

They are not running an ongoing service

They did this for a video

As a promotion for the 3cx platform

[leaden gale]

They should do Secret Shopper again

[rancid blaze]

so how people knew about how to join that?

[leaden gale]

They should include Starforge in the selection

[graceful burrow]

Like I said
Because you very obviously are not reading
Keep up to date with their twitter

[leaden gale]

Yeah, usually shit like that gets announced on their Twitter

[graceful burrow]

Bro someone said it was 90 degrees in Texas in the video
This shit was filmed months ago

[finite cloud]

They record things weeks in advance. The only video I don’t think they do that for are TechLinked and ShortCircut

I don’t have twitter anymore so I can’t check when they told people they were doing that

[full fossil]

Can I use ddr1 in a ddr5 slot? /s

With enough force u can at least get it in the slot

[full fossil]

True

[finite cloud]

Can I use a intel Core 2 Duo on a 13000 socket?

[full fossil]

Yes

And a pentium d too

[finite cloud]

Thanks

[fluid ridge]

amazon becomes the first company to lose a trillion dollars in market value

it is now worth less than 900 billion dollars

[hollow pulsar]

Ouch. How did that happen?

[graceful burrow]

Constant clowning over poor treatment of their workers probably

[hollow pulsar]

I mean, Amazon treating workers like glorified robots has been known for years.

[full fossil]

So if I wanted a slight upgrade to current build before I built the mega rig, is replacing a 2060 with a 3070 worth it on a 9900k playing at 1080p? I stream with it on NVENC and want as much fps as possible since I use a 360hz monitor. The 3070 at my local best buy is cheapest I've seen for $580

[hollow pulsar]

Why not wait to build the mega rig?

[full fossil]

Because this PC will be used as a streaming PC in a dual build anyways

So upgrades will still be useful

My mega build is pushing $6k, so 580 is a drop in the bucket for some more performance until then

[hollow pulsar]

Ouch. Hope that $6k PC will last you a while.

[full fossil]

Yeah that's the plan

[echo delta]

Can Anyone verify this " deepcool pk550d " good or not as budget power supply ...?? I will use that with ryzen 5600 + RTX 2060

[full fossil]

I've always gone with the lower tier cards so this one will be a 4090 build that's a bit future proof

Just not sure if the 3070 is worth it and if a 9900k can even drive it well

[hollow pulsar]

Oh so it’s at least a year or two out. Makes more sense now. Lol

[full fossil]

Maybe not that long, I'm hoping for 2023

But the current PC will still be used so I don't mind upgrading

Either in my dual PC setup or given to my girlfriend

Is that a fair price for a 3070?

[candid terrace]

It should be good for the 3070

[full fossil]

Alright. I'd only be at 1080p so I worry about bottlenecking

[candid terrace]

I payed 450 pound for mine which is around 550 dollars

[candid terrace]

I have a 9400F and it runs alright at 1080P, a little bottleneck but the 9900K should have absolutely no problems running that card

[full fossil]

Cool

[hearty spear]

bottlenecking is a stupid word that means nothing anymore >.<

Because the "bottleneck" on a PC? Will change depending on what you're doing.

So, realistically it's not a bottleneck, just a limitation of the hardware purchased.

A true bottleneck is when one component can NEVER keep up with another.

IE: Stick a Core2Duo into a box with a 4090.

That C2D will NEVER Be able to feed the 4090, so it's a bottleneck.

[sonic spruce]

I wanted to know if I could get it in America

[full fossil]

Im gonna go for it

Im gonna try to beat my previous OC/Perf 9100f WR

Wish me luck

[hollow zealot]

My bottleneck is my wallet

[grim void]

Hey guys, are the 4090 fans supposed to not spin when the card is idle?

[stoic beacon]

You already posted this in Tech-Chat1 and are being helped there. Delete this from Public.

[full fossil]

And Techchat 2

[graceful burrow]

Or even better yet
Stop crossposting to irrelevant channels and post in the proper #1027757333117415424 for tech support

[full fossil]

aight mb mb

[graceful burrow]

Ye yb

[full fossil]

Newest Post in #tech-chat-2

Wont help i guess....
Cause it is nearly always someone new

[full fossil]

just trynna get some more help bro mb

[graceful burrow]

Inb4 "pls look at my post in tech support"

[lament echo]

Is the ESP32 worth it?

[stoic beacon]

Can always go to the LTT Forums too, the people that sit in the tech support forum there are actually quite good...they'll insult you to hell and back (when you deserve it) but they'll fix your issue

[wispy marsh]

Will there be wan show this week

[full fossil]

I was this 🤏 close to asking "why shouldnt?" but then i remembered Christmas xD

I guess yes. But not sure tho

[graceful burrow]

Depends on what you're using it for
Esp 8266 is nice
Lots of arduino stuff
Pi pico/pico w is great for stuff and has lots of interesting boards

[chilly rover]

every channel rn is doing viewer interaction videos. gatta make more videos for the DEC view spike somehow ig

[hearty spear]

Play a better game than Val?

[hollow zealot]

[west laurel]

Currently using pi pico myself, which I am really enjoying playing around with. But it really depends what you are going to do with it. Would like to get my hands on one sometimes and test it out.

[graceful burrow]

What are you using the pico for out of curiosity

[west laurel]

Mainly messing around. But also trying to make a really cheap cryptographic signing processor.

[celest vine]

I was gonna get a 6800, currently play on 1440p 144hz with a 2060 should I upgrade or should I wait? Y’all’s opinion

[stoic beacon]

Wait to see what Nvidia and AMD's full lineups look like

[west laurel]

Especially since the RP2040 itself is if I were to use it in some product is like 1$ for just the chip.

This is not what I wanted to write but I forgot what I originally wanted to write

[celest vine]

@stoic beacon Thanks for the advice I was gonna wait for the 7800 xt but just needed to hear it

[west laurel]

we talking PC?

[mystic tundra]

Expensive.

[hearty spear]

probably, but they haven't announced future prices yet, so we'll see

[mystic tundra]

Did discord text appereance changed?

[hearty spear]

I'm saving up more NeweggBucks to use towards a GPU next year, but I'm waiting to see what the price / performance shakes out as first.

[mystic tundra]

It’s thinner and less spaced

[hearty spear]

I don't think so?

[mystic tundra]

Maybe i just overloaded myself

Nope

it changed

“M” changed

[runic sun]

Win11 or win10? I have r7 5700x and rtx 3080. I mostly just game, sometimes use vm machines, programming...

[mystic tundra]

Win10

Win11 is just refresh of windows 10 with more bloatware and more sleek appereance

[stoic beacon]

It did, I first noticed it in the launch animation

[mystic tundra]

yup, i don’t like the new “W”

Old one was better

But, whatever

[fierce night]

can anyone help me port forward my Arris router for minecraft? I've watched like 5 tutorials and followed steps to the T, but I'm still not able to connect through my external IP.

[mild elm]

Meh

[hearty spear]

whichever you want

[mystic tundra]

^ yes

Personally, in my (opinion). I regret upgrading to win11

[mild elm]

Both are fine

[mystic tundra]

or downgrading i shall say

[mild elm]

Win10 looks ugly for me

[mystic tundra]

I do prefer windows 7 looks

And featureset

[mild elm]

I prefer windows 95

[signal badger]

Ok?

[molten flare]

hmm. not really too tech question, but my bedroom windows gets alot of condensation these days, wonder if anyone have an opinion on kaptontape, if this can help fight against condensation?

[full fossil]

so we in chinese is = women
tf

[calm ice]

hi, lol its been a while since I've been on this server, just wanted to see my role. I cant see any voice channels anymore. Trying to figure out why...

[manic torrent]

this is going to shock you - china is a whole different country with a whole different language that developed independantly

[manic torrent]

because people suck and that's why you cna't have nice things

[signal badger]

Huh?

女 is women, u pronounce it n-yu

We has nothing to do with women

[hollow pulsar]

Have you asked in #networking ?

[full fossil]

although many sounds are the same
I'm learning chinese because there's lots of chinese around here, and it's pretty funny seeing their facial expressions tbh
although I'm understanding where stereotypes like chingchong or dingdong do come from