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full fossil
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legal money laundering jakeKEK

feral rampart
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I hope newegg goes the way artesian builds wentlinusSmirk

woeful minnow
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Except without scamming so many people hopefully

slim yacht
limber vector
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a local seller is selling the official razer blade 15 (rtx 2060) in new condition for cheaper prices compared to the 3060. is it worth it in 2022?

waxen cobalt
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No

keen thicket
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I have an opportunity to trade my reference rx6800+300$ for a nitro+ 6900xt... Would this be a good or bad deal?

waxen cobalt
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I was offered a 100quid 2060 to replace my 1080ti. I was like naa

normal saffron
waxen cobalt
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I generally stick to last gen stuff but the 20 cards are meh at best and 30cards are latest so sticking with ma 1080ti for now

normal saffron
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or like a trade

waxen cobalt
normal saffron
waxen cobalt
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True but that means lots of hassle of resellin for just 50quid

agile jetty
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Broo the i3 12100f is overkill for a 6600

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You're better off with a 6950XT!

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Starting at 1,099 usd

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I'm trying to troll you

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But at this point you're better waiting for RX 7000

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Intel 1300 or amd 7000 cpus, and rtx 4000 and prob gtx 17

lime bloom
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I finally joined after running out of LTT youtube videos to watch. Not sure why i waited so long, this place is great. Hi All!

agile jetty
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We will not know for a bit.

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B R U H

lime bloom
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That's the look im going for!

agile jetty
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@unborn moon if u want budget get the 3090. Starting at just $1260.00

still sparrow
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you say that with a deadpool avatar limesGiggle

agile jetty
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the rtx 3090 isn't worse than the 6600??

warm wharf
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3090's much worse than a 6600, if we're measuring performance per $

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But, yeah, otherwise, no

agile jetty
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Ik rtx 4xxx is coming out soon but I'm still gonna go 3090 cuz yes

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And 3090 actually fits in my budget range fir a 4K gaming setup

still sparrow
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mmm a GT720

warm wharf
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Watch a 4070 be better than it and less than half the price

agile jetty
hollow zealot
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Tbh I'm pretty excited to see how arc turns out, I've been wanting to build a sff PC for LAN and some other things around the house and that'd be my excuse

warm wharf
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Pretty sure a 4070 will beat a 3090 TI too πŸ˜„

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Other than in VRAM quantity of course

agile jetty
hollow zealot
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4090 Ti will beat your circuit breaker

still sparrow
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we will have to see when 4000 series comes out

hollow zealot
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I would

agile jetty
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Yes

hollow zealot
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But they are really good price rn if you really want a pc

fluid ridge
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well yeah the 4070 will probably match 3090 performance

still sparrow
fluid ridge
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the 3070 matches 2080ti performance

hollow zealot
agile jetty
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But if you want entrey level @unborn moon. Get the 6700XT.

fluid ridge
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if you want an entry level GPU buy a K series CPU

warm wharf
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rumored performance is 3090 TI lands between 4070 and 4080, but hard to know till it actually launches

fluid ridge
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no need for a discrete

hollow zealot
agile jetty
hollow zealot
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Entry level is technically 3050

fluid ridge
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amd shit integrated

hollow zealot
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So you'd be better off with apu or similar

agile jetty
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Bro AMD has better iGPUs than intel

fluid ridge
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no quicksync

agile jetty
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Unless we trollin this kid

hollow zealot
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Proof?

fluid ridge
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and half of amd's product line doesn't even ship with an iGPU

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what a dumb goal

warm wharf
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lolwut

warm wharf
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"I'm trying to get lots of friends, so I can sell my account to someone who wants to use it to spam my friends list with links."

agile jetty
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Also. I may or may not be a shill for amd

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Unpaid ofc

fluid ridge
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funny enough i happen to be an intel shill

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also unpaid

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we are opposite sides of the same coin

warm wharf
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CPU-wise I don't hold much favoritism, GPU-wise though I just trust NVIDIA to deliver a more consistent experience

fluid ridge
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nvidia supremacy, intel supremacy

fluid ridge
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the way 2 go

agile jetty
fluid ridge
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πŸ—Ώ

hollow zealot
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Wait what even is this chart

fluid ridge
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"i'm an amd shill but i bought intel's 3rd best chip"

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πŸ—Ώ

warm wharf
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3rd?

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12900K beats it, am I missing something else?

fluid ridge
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KS, 12900K, and 1700K

warm wharf
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12900KS exists, but that's the same chip

hollow zealot
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Alder lake uses ice lake gpu cores? I'm so confused

agile jetty
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I never specified alder lake

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@hollow zealot

fluid ridge
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the KS and K are separate in my eyes

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there is an extra S for the KS version πŸ—Ώ

agile jetty
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What, by 300Mhz??

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On SINGLE CORE??

fluid ridge
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also by 25 watts more power draw

agile jetty
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Hahahah

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"I can assure you, all X Of these cores are running at 5.5Ghz"

hollow zealot
fluid ridge
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he did

warm wharf
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Do mobile chips count? Some of them are sort of faster than a 12700K too

fluid ridge
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he has a 12700k πŸ—Ώ

agile jetty
warm wharf
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12950HX is a 12900K with less wattage

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it outperforms a 12700K

agile jetty
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Ewwww

fluid ridge
agile jetty
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Mobile chip users. Imagine having your CPU soldered with BALLS?

agile jetty
warm wharf
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12950HX is obscenely powerful for a laptop cpu though πŸ˜„

fluid ridge
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i have a 12600k and a 3070

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i was thinking of just buying a 12900k and running integrated from there

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but i decided how about actually being able to use the computer reasonably

agile jetty
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Shit bro I might buy a ARC 770 (shitty gpu according to LTT VID for now)

fluid ridge
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arc looks promising

hollow zealot
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I also have a 12700k

fluid ridge
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once they fix the driver issues ez clap

agile jetty
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Eh. If I get my hands on a 770 I'm just going to smash it to bits

warm wharf
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12700K vs 12950HX is sort of questionable which is faster though, but I'd say it's basically a draw.
12950HX is like 1% faster multi-core, 12700K is like 1% faster single-core

hollow zealot
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Arc looks promising after it's been out for a while

fluid ridge
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the GPUs also look really clean

warm wharf
fluid ridge
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however for GPUs i only trust nvidia

agile jetty
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But first, a word from our sponsor, Corsair

warm wharf
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Corsair? The sponsor isn't the LTTTech Store?

hollow zealot
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What is with you and these clown emotes my guy

agile jetty
fluid ridge
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price wise for sure go AMD for GPUs

agile jetty
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But performance. Nvidia all rhe wayy

fluid ridge
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but AMD gpus are lacking in a lot of ways

hollow zealot
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?

fluid ridge
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specifically productivity support, encoders and decoders and media engines

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nvme

warm wharf
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I'd trust NVIDIA to provide a more consistent experience, but I'd still be tempted to pick AMD at a lot of budgets.

agile jetty
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Low RT performance, no G6X. But one upside. Rast performance

hollow zealot
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Please don't ghost ping me @unborn moon

agile jetty
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@hollow zealot his sentence got blasted by the filter I saw it disappear

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He said you are something regarding the communities of which beg for equality

hollow zealot
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Was he making fun of said communities?

agile jetty
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No He called you the word that used to define happy but now describes a word meant for men liking eachothet

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And the filter censored ot

hollow zealot
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Ah I see

agile jetty
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Bro i saw it get censored

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And again
And again.

hollow zealot
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I hope you understand that's warship deleting those

agile jetty
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The modbot is gonna mute you eventually mate

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LTT should make gpus

hearty spear
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Are you getting warshipped and then blaming someone else for it? ROFL

agile jetty
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bRo did this man just say he has alts

warm wharf
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Like, if you want a good GPU for $300, you can get a GTX 1660 Super, or a RX 6600. Please don't pick the 1660 Super.

hearty spear
agile jetty
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This man just said he has alts and deleted it

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YOU INBAN

hollow zealot
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Inban moderators can see what you've deleted

fluid ridge
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inban really gaslighting the shit out of alpaca

hollow zealot
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Just btw

dim aspen
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@agile jetty just block him

hollow zealot
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^

fluid ridge
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man is seeing doubles

hearty spear
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<@&750150305383186585> dude's talking about alt accounts on the server.

fluid ridge
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πŸ—Ώ

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boots quivering

agile jetty
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Inbredman I hope they IP Ban you disgraceful piece of-

fluid ridge
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all discord bans are IP by default

dim aspen
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@agile jetty just stop feeding the troll

warm wharf
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With discord you just ban someone's phone number

hearty spear
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When you join a discord server you've always got 2 easy choices:

  1. Go hang out and chill with the people on the server
    or
  2. Show up, try to be big dog, and... well... act the fool.

We all know what you decided to choose, noobzilla.

warm wharf
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And require phone # verification to join

fluid ridge
agile jetty
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He's gone.

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We're safe now.

warm wharf
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Not saying they necessarily do it here, but discord servers can require phone # verification.

dim aspen
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@agile jetty he'll be back just stop feeding the trolls and they go away when they are not entertained

fluid ridge
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im pretty sure there's phone verification here

warm wharf
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Is usually the best way to stop ban evasion

fluid ridge
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but phone numbers are as easy if not easier to mask/proxy as your IP address

hearty spear
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Thank you stealthy Mod!

fluid ridge
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if you really want to stop ban evasion you do HWID bans

warm wharf
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No way, doable, but not nearly as easy as IP

fluid ridge
agile jetty
fluid ridge
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lmao, there are thousands of free websites that will give you a burner phone number

hearty spear
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LTTcord is fairly good about banning, people tend to not come back often.

hollow zealot
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Where would you get hwid on discord

hearty spear
hollow zealot
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That sounds not exactly useable here

agile jetty
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I've banned someone using HWID but it's incredibly difficult

hollow zealot
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I stopped moderating because it's a lot of drama and feels too much like a real job

warm wharf
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the only discord servers I'm a mod in, basically don't require moderation

fluid ridge
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volunteer internet janitor

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πŸ—Ώ

agile jetty
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And now a word from our sponsor GLASSWIRE

hearty spear
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god damnit warship >.<

hollow zealot
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Pffft

agile jetty
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lttstore .com

dim aspen
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That was smooth like this seqway to our sponsor Artesian Builds

hearty spear
hollow zealot
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Inban is now I'mban

dim aspen
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Artesian Builds: You will be mocked

agile jetty
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Broo the LTT desk pad is the best

hollow zealot
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My dad printed a webpage to ask me to order something from Amazon

warm wharf
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Shit That Parents Do

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Pretty sure that falls in that category

dim aspen
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My dad faxed me a printout of a webpage to ask me to buy something from my local BestBuy

warm wharf
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I have Amazon Prime and my mother doesn't

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So she always messages me asking me to buy stuff for her on amazon

hollow zealot
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Same here

warm wharf
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and always sends pictures or descriptions

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I'm like....just send me the damn url

wraith sonnet
hollow zealot
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Webpage looks amazing

wraith sonnet
spare olive
hollow zealot
spare olive
wraith sonnet
hollow zealot
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Ah sorry

dim aspen
hollow zealot
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Interesting

hearty spear
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<@&750150305383186585> can I DM one of you?

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I think what I've heard is any foreign shipments any customs stuff is on the recipient

waxen cobalt
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So u just ping all the mods instead of dm just one of em nice

hearty spear
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I'm not DMing the mods, or anyone else like that without their okay

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The same reason I ignore people who DM me asking for tech support 95% of the time

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Unless I say it's okay? Stay the fuck outta my DMs.

dim aspen
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slides into Tkitch's DMs

hearty spear
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(At least if requesting anything involving effort.)

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If you wanna slide into my DMs with some great snark about someone acting the fool in here? I'm HAPPY to giggle at it

hollow zealot
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tkitch help my computer says that I need to call Microsoft to unlock it 😭
They say they have all my moneyyy

tired glade
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Haha

hollow zealot
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What do you mean?

tired glade
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World is changing

wraith sonnet
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the joke went over my head okay?

hollow zealot
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Okeydoke

wraith sonnet
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thanks bing?

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I have no clue wtf this thinks my question was

hollow zealot
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Phenols are the chemical that make them smell weird

wraith sonnet
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I asked if elderberries smell bad though

hollow zealot
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The first one says they smell bad

wraith sonnet
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but that says syrup

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same with the second one

dim aspen
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I want linus to let Anthony do the MS-DOS PC build video!

hearty spear
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Step 1 of the MS DOS Video:

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Desolder every last cap on the board, and replace with new solid state caps.

dim aspen
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i still have plenty of machines running electrolytics

hearty spear
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but a 25 year old P1? Can't trust those anymore, if you care about the gear

dim aspen
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it depends upon the era.. there was a bad batch of electrolytics that flooded from china

hearty spear
still sparrow
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Pentium 1 ?

hearty spear
still sparrow
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not a Pentium MMX limesEyyd

hearty spear
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Had two main variants: Pentium and Pentium w MMX Technology

dim aspen
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mmm card edge cpu's πŸ˜›

hearty spear
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nope, P1 was socket

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P2 started slot

dim aspen
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yeah that's why i said it

hearty spear
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Socket 7, in fact was Pentium

dim aspen
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cause you mentioned the P2

still sparrow
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thing the intel CPUs i loved the most are the Pentium III series alimesLoves

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they was so fun to overclock

hearty spear
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Celeron 300A was the tits when it came out.

still sparrow
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specially the Slot 1 Pentium3s

hearty spear
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a friend of mine got his 300A Celeron to run at /over/ 500mhz

still sparrow
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P3 at 650Mhz

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slot 1 OC to 850 i think roooDerpThink

dim aspen
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Cyrix 486DLC baby

hearty spear
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oh cryix

still sparrow
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dont you mean them VIA cpus ? roooDerpy

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now that was some uber crap

hearty spear
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I went from a 286-12Mhz to a P120 (horribly custom OEM box), to a self-built K6-2 300 that I OC'd past 400, nearly to 450. The K6 had an AGP GPU (I forget what) and SLI 12MB Voodoo2 cards

still sparrow
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think my Parents saved my old AMD Opteron PC .. the first 64bit CPU limesEyyd

dim aspen
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there was a guy who lives across the street from my mom who ran a BBS from his house

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it was cool to see

hearty spear
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that was an expensive hobby back when it was relevant

dim aspen
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yup multiple phone lines

hearty spear
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multiple modems, and more

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and that shit was NOT cheap in the 80's-90's

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I remember seeing a really crap modem... maybe 28.8? And it was selling for 500-600$?

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it was INSANE what tech cost back then

still sparrow
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πŸ–₯️rooCanerooOld

dim aspen
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yup.. tkitch and i are oldies

still sparrow
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everything over40 is ancient

dim aspen
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well i'm not there.. yet

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but i'm within spitting distance

still sparrow
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only 4 more years rooMadSlam

dim aspen
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little more than half a year way for me

still sparrow
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getting to that Level 40

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the XP grind before it hard

dim aspen
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Gets hard after level 40 cause your stats start getting capped arbitrarily

still sparrow
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my attributes was capped 7 levels ago

dim aspen
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my endurance got capped

hollow zealot
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Compared to y'all I'm a kid

dim aspen
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compared to us everyone is a kid

still sparrow
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i have a debuff that makes my stats like im lvl 80

hollow zealot
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My dad's in his 50s

still sparrow
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so you would be around 18-22 then i guess

hollow zealot
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20

carmine merlin
dim aspen
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you're a post 9/11 kid

hollow zealot
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Yes

dim aspen
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i had graduated from high school just before 9/11

hollow zealot
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And my birthday makes that very very strange tbh

kind pivot
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Nothing beats the feeling of moving stuff from one drive to another and accidentally nuking your C drive

night heron
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old people convention in chat

carmine merlin
dim aspen
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i didn't start college until 2008

lime elbow
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hii

carmine merlin
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oh, then I was around 1 yrs old

hollow zealot
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I've graduated college 😎

lime elbow
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lol me here in 10th grade

kind pivot
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Hopefully I can recover most of my files, I caught it relatively quick
I think robocopy decided to get a little too πŸ…±οΈrazy

hearty spear
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I was finishing college shortly after 9/11

still sparrow
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i dropped out of school to work at a place building prebuit PCs limesEyyd

carmine merlin
dim aspen
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enjoy your high school years.. before you have real responsibilities

hearty spear
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listen here you got dang whippersnappers! shakes cane in your direction

hollow zealot
still sparrow
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pokepokestickπŸ’»

hearty spear
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Don't let anyone tell you that HS is "the best time of your life" cuz it's not.
It's just the last of "childhood" for the most part where you have the least real shit to worry about.

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(And if HS was the best time of your life? Bruh... You peaked way too early.)

agile jetty
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Laptops are shit (I'm a laptop user)

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I'm building desktop dpe and I got a 12700k for it

still sparrow
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the first month i started my job building PCs i built around 500 laptops limesFine

agile jetty
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Buying a z690-A for it kater

hearty spear
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So, for anyone who is looking to build on the cheap right now:
Microcenter has a deal: 11700K + Asus Z590 Prime board for 270$

hearty spear
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they're not trying to get rid of 12700Ks yet πŸ˜›

agile jetty
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Can the 11700k still boost 5Ghz

dim aspen
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11th gen is plenty powerful for a lot of things.. you don't have to live life on the bleeding edge πŸ˜›

agile jetty
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Uh let's see
. Ryzen 7 5700x is better
. The 10700k outperforms it

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12700k outperforms all 3

zenith trail
lilac sage
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Nah 11700>10700

night heron
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it’s the newest and costs more

lilac sage
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its 10900 vs 11900 that 10th gen wins sometimes

hollow zealot
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How many cores do they have

fading zealot
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No

dim aspen
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@hearty spear one of my friends on another discord was streaming in discord and showed his Explorer window.... he had a SSD mounted to a: and it wierded me the hell out

hearty spear
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8c/16t each

agile jetty
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I'm going to do a funny guys
Return my 12700k
Buy 12900KF

hearty spear
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why?

hollow zealot
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Oh wow

hearty spear
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what are the e-cores going to do?

dim aspen
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be efficient

agile jetty
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more mhz simple

hollow zealot
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No wonder 12th gen was a leap

agile jetty
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idc about cost really. I'll save up and buy it.

lilac sage
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Bruh

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Shouldnt you just save for a 13th gen?

hearty spear
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there are very few use cases where the 12900k is worth the price increase over 12700k

hollow zealot
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If I had known about it I'd have waited for am5

agile jetty
dim aspen
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no sense spending so much money for top of the line components when in 6-12 months it won't be top of the lien anymore

warm wharf
hearty spear
agile jetty
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At least if they're top of the line now, they'll perform well for the next 2-4 years

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H o p e f u l l y

warm wharf
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way more than 2-4

hearty spear
agile jetty
hearty spear
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There is no point anywhere where a new CPU will be top of the line for 12 months.

warm wharf
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No one's missing anything

agile jetty
warm wharf
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He's saying it's not worth buying top of the line components typically since they only remain top of the line for a short period of time anyway

dim aspen
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@hearty spear i was literally saying that in my statement

warm wharf
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and are almost never good bang for buck

hollow zealot
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I bought a 12700k from best buy brand new because I figured it'd not need replacement for future AAA games for a long time

agile jetty
dim aspen
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AAA games don't excite me anymore

lilac sage
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Ye I really dont see a huge point in getting top of the line

warm wharf
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5950X? How would that be bang for buck? πŸ˜„

hearty spear
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I generally prefer K over KF.

lilac sage
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Performance is stagnant in games unless you find a heavier title and thats when upgrades should happen

agile jetty
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Well by now, 7950XT or whatever will come out

lilac sage
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5900X is heavily discounted. Thats the core per dollar king iirc

warm wharf
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I suppose for a professional workload, if you're comparing it to Epyc's and Xeon's

dim aspen
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It's fun watching youtubers make TOL systems cause it's interesting.. but i'm more interested in virtualization and server these days over single TOL systems

hollow zealot
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Well all I have to worry about is my GPU in 4 years

warm wharf
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But I'd never pick a 5950X as a bang for buck gaming cpu

hearty spear
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Anything past 8 (P) cores is pretty dumb for gaming

agile jetty
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"I can assure you, all 16 cores are running at 5.5 gigahertz:

lilac sage
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Ye the only use case for 5900X gaming is if you stream as well

warm wharf
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Even with streaming

lilac sage
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otherwise you bought it just cuz

warm wharf
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12600K will game and stream just as well

agile jetty
hearty spear
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what coins mine on CPU?

dim aspen
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you're mining coins on CPUs?

lilac sage
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Gpu mining is on life support

agile jetty
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BTC

hollow zealot
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I bought a 12700k for gaming
But then I realized it's just cuz it's cool

lilac sage
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Dude just mine on hard drives instead

dim aspen
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that's been out of style since 2-3 years after BTC was released

warm wharf
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A 12700K is a great cpu, and not that much more expensive than a 12600K, but it's not really much better than a 12600K for gaming, even if you are also streaming

agile jetty
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Also you now know I am going to actually spend like 7k to abuse a 2nd exact setup on mining.

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It will only take 7 years to pay off....

dim aspen
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it went CPU->GPU->ASIC->GPU

warm wharf
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My CPU is way slower than a 12600K, and streaming doesn't even impact my gaming performance for the most part

hearty spear
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and ASICs may be making (another) comeback

lilac sage
dim aspen
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i'm on a laptop and i can stream 1080 and play games no issue

agile jetty
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But guys. Vendor Locked CPUs rise up!

hollow zealot
dim aspen
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Application Specific Integrated Circuit

hearty spear
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CPUs optimized to do one task

waxen cobalt
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They lock for easier tune its a laptop 4 u

hollow zealot
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Ah okay

dim aspen
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basically a chip that is specially made to compute a single objective and optimized

hearty spear
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as opposed to x86 that are generalized to do /everything/

agile jetty
warm wharf
hollow zealot
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What would be a modern example?

lilac sage
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ye thats why the new spiderman pc requirements are bogus

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12700k for ray tracing lmao

warm wharf
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RT will plummet the fps, no need for a crazy cpu

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πŸ˜„

dim aspen
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my laptop can do 1080 streaming and 4k gaming and it's using a 10980HK and 3070

warm wharf
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my laptop's similar

lilac sage
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Ye they are just validating ppl who bought those high end cpus

warm wharf
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worse cpu, better gpu

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10875H+3080 Mobile

hearty spear
hollow zealot
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Ah okay

dim aspen
warm wharf
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Tensor cores used for DLSS are similar in that sense too, no?

lilac sage
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Tensor cores are general purpose

hearty spear
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IIRC Tensor cores do all of the raster work, and DLSS is a tweak for that

hollow zealot
#

Would movement in the direction of ARM contain those?

#

Or are they an x86 thing

dim aspen
#

x86 is an instruction set

hearty spear
#

unlikely. Computer CPUs need to be "generalists" more than specificists.

#

Because you can throw 2 million different types of loads at a computer, and the processor needs to do it all.

hollow zealot
#

Alrighty

dim aspen
#

an ASIC is more comparable to a software program in hardware form

#

it literally just does that one thing and nothing else

hearty spear
#

so like, if you wanna optimize a CPU do to bitcoin mining? You build the CPU to mine bitcoin super well, and then it can do basically nothing else.

#

Whereas x86 CPUs aren't the best at bitcoin mining, but they can do damned near anything you throw at them

lilac sage
#

and I think bitcoin is mostly matrix solving

#

i may be mistaken

hollow zealot
#

So we'd be moving away from them

hearty spear
#

but if it's a niche use? The ASIC isn't very good, because the cost of development would negate any benefits

dim aspen
#

there are a ton of ASIC's out there of all kinds.. not just for mining but even little electronic toy games

#

a lot of those use ASIC if not using ARM based microcontrollers

#

ASIC's can actually be very cost efficient at orders of scale

#

since you aren't paying for things that aren't neccessary for the specific task at hand

hollow zealot
#

That's pretty cool stuff tbh

hearty spear
#

silicon engineering is cool AF, and hella complicated

sweet bison
#

Is it common for jeep doors to seize?

marble pilot
#

is there a memes channel

hollow zealot
#

Today is one of the days I wish I worked in the IT industry

#

So I remember the video that Anthony hosted they were saying that arm PCs would basically get rid of enthusiast building of PCs

#

Do y'all know why?

#

Like even if we didn't move into arm couldn't we still have hot swappable motherboards and whatnot

dim aspen
#

hot.. swappable.. motherboards..

hollow zealot
#

Well

#

You know what I mean xd

dim aspen
#

that would mean swapping out motherboards while power is active

hearty spear
hollow zealot
#

Swappable in general

marble pilot
hearty spear
# marble pilot why

because that leads to stupid spam, and decidedly questionable content, and nobody wants to moderate it.

still sparrow
#

hotswap stuff is mostly in the server world

still sparrow
#

the closest you get to hotswap is USB

hearty spear
hollow zealot
#

I didn't mean to get specific

#

I was just wondering why they said that the enthusiast world would not fare well with arm

still sparrow
dim aspen
#

i don't remember the video you're mentioning but i think ARM adoption would just add more options to enthusiest building

still sparrow
#

because normally you dont enable hotswap SATA

hearty spear
#

the main reason you won't see ARM in consumer stuff is because the general market hates change, and that would be a VERY BIG change

still sparrow
#

i have SATA hotswap enabled mainly because i have a 6x 2.5" hotswap in my case

lilac sage
#

Bring back K10

#

Jim Keller demands it

dim aspen
#

never thought i'd see the day when RISC was starting to make a comeback

still sparrow
#

dont think you will see ARM taking over if at all

hearty spear
#

one of the big things is that when you make a "new" x86 CPU, most older software still works without a hitch.
If you swap to ARM? A loooot of stuff will need to be rewritten to support it.

hollow zealot
#

Ahhh I see

#

So it's almost like how people don't like Linux because it's different than what we have everything developed for already

dim aspen
#

the reason we have only two competitors in the CPU space these days is because Intel doesn't license the x86 instruction set

lilac sage
#

Well also cyrix crashed and burned

dim aspen
#

AMD was lucky to have alicensed x86 back when intel needed AMD's help to manufacture the chips

hearty spear
dim aspen
#

so only AMD has a license for x86

lilac sage
#

well they went into integer and not FP

#

They bulldozered themselves

#

Except worse

still sparrow
#

well cyrix was up to the 486 times .. and no longer

hearty spear
#

cyrix had a 5x86 (it wasn't good, but they had one)

dim aspen
#

Cyrix had other issues mainly they didn't have a license for x86

#

they reverse engineered intel's products

agile jetty
#

I hope AI eventually takes over

#

Living inside the internet, for as long as you want..

#

Robots doing our work..

dim aspen
#

till the solar storm nukes the grid

#

and now no one knows how to do anything

hollow zealot
#

64 bit is 19 years old???

dim aspen
#

yes

#

it was intiially in the server space.. didn't come to consumer space for a bit after that

hollow zealot
#

And I assume it's not simple to just jump from 64 to 128 or something

agile jetty
dim aspen
agile jetty
heady orchid
#

LTT has a 60oz water bottle in the works right ? i remember hearing about it

tired glade
#

Isn't that like 2L?

dim aspen
#

LTT HydroPack πŸ˜›

weak bridge
tired glade
#

1,7L, oh,my, that a lot

weak bridge
#

they should make 2 liter soda bottles come with a straw

tired glade
tired glade
#

I hadn't had soft drink in 7 years, oh,my just realized that

heady orchid
dim aspen
#

64bit systems can address up to 16 Exabytes of memory

tired glade
#

You still need temperature close to 1K to make work quantum

dim aspen
#

so until we need memory greater tahn 16 Exabytes no reason to spend money going to 128

tired glade
#

We still generations away to make that replaced silicon processors

dim aspen
#

forget quantum processors.. i want Quantum Entangled NIC

#

0ms ping

tired glade
#

Can you even do it with current display latency?

dim aspen
#

ping has nothing to do with displays

tired glade
#

There is still delay between you clicking and screen refresh

dim aspen
#

ping isn't just about gaming πŸ˜›

tired glade
#

For what you need low ping than?

weak bridge
#

also the lower the ping the better, even if the display cant refresh fast enough

tired glade
#

Why you need below 200 on that?

kind pivot
marble pilot
tired glade
#

And don't forget, your reaction time too

dim aspen
marble pilot
#

ok*

winter vector
#

I just pulled it .

#

Oops wrong window

dim aspen
#

lol

winter vector
#

:(

marble pilot
#

does anyone wanna play on the ltt minecraft server

winter vector
#

Shit, lol

#

I don't play that

marble pilot
#

is this a rare splash text

#

oops no image perms

winter vector
#

12900kf worth the price?

marble pilot
heady orchid
marble pilot
#

seems more worth it to me

#

WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING A MINECRAFT DISCORD SERVER IF IT'S ALWAYS FULL?!?!?!?!?/!?!?!?!?

twin raptor
winter vector
#

@marble pilot any major difference

marble pilot
dim aspen
marble pilot
tired glade
#

People,are you ready drinking 2L of water daily?

winter vector
#

Oh

marble pilot
dim aspen
#

i drink about 3 liters of Dt Mtn Dew a day

#

so lots of water in there

marble pilot
hearty spear
dim aspen
twin raptor
#

Oops meant to reply hana

tired glade
#

So,no wet food in your diet at all?

marble pilot
#

anyone wanna play on mc.ltt.gg minecraft server?!?!

winter vector
#

@marble pilot ya it is 2-300$ less

marble pilot
winter vector
#

Asus motherboard or?

hearty spear
dim aspen
#

Gaming

winter vector
#

@hearty spear I'd rather not say ;)

dim aspen
#

i don't play many games from the past 2-3 years

tired glade
hearty spear
winter vector
#

Why is that

hearty spear
#

because the i9's don't do SHIT extra for gaming

dim aspen
#

@hearty spear depends on the games that he plays

winter vector
#

So what is recommended

hollow zealot
#

I bought a 12700k for gaming and I did throw money down the toilet

hearty spear
winter vector
#

Omg

tired glade
#

i9 has only technical lead over i5 and i7

#

And zen3

hearty spear
dim aspen
#

lol

winter vector
#

@marble pilot Asus mobi?

dim aspen
marble pilot
winter vector
#

Oh

#

Which Asus mobi would fit good a rog?

#

Mobo

tired glade
#

Isn't rog asus brand?

winter vector
#

Yes

hollow zealot
#

What are you trying to ask

hearty spear
winter vector
#

I'm not spending anything just to see what's there lately πŸ€”

hollow zealot
#

Lol if I redid my 2.2k build I'd not buy an i7 and I'd dump more of that money into the gpu

hearty spear
winter vector
#

Okay lol

tired glade
#

Any will fit, just depends if you will see it in final build and what you want from board

hearty spear
#

asking people what motherboard is useless, because there are dozens upon dozens to pick from

winter vector
#

Atm I got an old machine with a good GPU lol

#

Rtx GPU*

dim aspen
#

i5 with a 1080TI πŸ˜›

tired glade
#

Zen 4 is soon and 14 gen schedule for next summer

winter vector
#

I'm.older

hollow zealot
#

Aw lmgtfy isn't allowed here

winter vector
#

2600K :/

hearty spear
#

If you want to know:
Go buy an i9 12900KS
MSI Godlike Motherboard
128GB DDR5
And a pair of 4TB NVME's

hollow zealot
#

Don't forget the case

dim aspen
#

that's like my PC Build Simulator build

winter vector
#

Omg haha

winter vector
#

I will upgrade slowly not all at once. So I'd get what I can afford atm then few months get another piece

hollow zealot
#

Buy everything at once or not at all

hearty spear
winter vector
#

Why is that

tired glade
#

And ddr5 wave is soon

hearty spear
#

because the CPU won't fit πŸ˜›

#

the RAM won't fit

hollow zealot
#

And tbh with the 40 series, that might not even fit

winter vector
#

I'll get the hardware I want make a list then it will fit

tired glade
#

And 2500 doesn't support m.2

winter vector
#

My laptop is an i5 better than my i7 desktop. Lol

tired glade
#

Oh, its 2600

hearty spear
hollow zealot
#

I had a friend try to do what you're doing and it did not go well at all

hearty spear
#

because 6 months from now? You'd be looking at intel 13th gen, not 12th. And buying parts piecemeal is asking for headaches

tired glade
#

Isn't 13 gen in November?

hearty spear
tired glade
#

Wait for 14 gen and get way better memory than it is on market

hearty spear
tired glade
#

It should be in 1 year from now

dim aspen
#

i want a 26th gen cpu

tired glade
#

3600 is updated for 2600k

hollow zealot
#

69th gen smart

hearty spear
#

won't be

dim aspen
#

420th gen

hollow zealot
#

Damn you got me

tired glade
#

So,he still has optimization for 5800x3d

hollow zealot
#

Can't beat that

hearty spear
#

69,420th gen

dim aspen
#

4206969th gen

winter vector
#

Ahh I guess it makes sense lol

hollow zealot
dim aspen
#

31337th gen

hearty spear
#

get money: Buy parts all at once

dim aspen
#

it will be the best gen

tired glade
#

How much is cheaper ddr5 32gb kit,right now?

winter vector
#

And I hate having to reinstall everything ugg

dim aspen
#

i just want a cpu with a 32 gb L0 cache

winter vector
#

And I hate windows 11 πŸ‘€

hollow zealot
#

$170 ish

tired glade
#

Just migrate everything

hollow zealot
#

$150 if you're lucky

#

But that's at 4800 which doesn't make sense to me to buy

tired glade
winter vector
#

Ya migrate but it's also all the configuration how I want thigs

dim aspen
#

that's what i'm waiting for.. windows is only good every other version

hearty spear
winter vector
#

@dim aspen I agree

hearty spear
#

Win 10's been around a lot longer than 2 years.

winter vector
#

Yes

tired glade
dim aspen
#

i remember when Windows 10 was initially pitched as the last version of windows πŸ˜›

peak sable
#

Anyone remember that amazing os Windows ME was?

winter vector
#

My current cpu is 4 core 8threads

peak sable
#

I actually kinda liked it

dim aspen
#

ME was decent if you had the right hardware

winter vector
#

ME was a huge fail

karmic flame
#

I still have the ME Disk

winter vector
#

Lol

tired glade
#

I never made me worked longer than for few hours

dim aspen
#

Windows XP will always go down in my heart as the best consumer OS

#

from microsoft

winter vector
#

XP 7 and 10 (decent)

karmic flame
#

I finally got me new keyboard. Still not sure what i think about it

tired glade
#

Best windows,not OS

hollow zealot
#

My dad works at a healthcare related job and they still use XP for most core functions

winter vector
#

Everything is on the cloud with medical

hollow zealot
#

And then the employees have w10 vms for remote work

tired glade
hollow zealot
#

Very strange

winter vector
#

Isn't win10 support done?

hollow zealot
#

Iirc they're moving away from it

tired glade
winter vector
#

Ahh

dim aspen
#

@winter vector not all version of windows 10

winter vector
#

Ohh

hollow zealot
#

He was completely about training having to do with w10

tired glade
#

Vista just lost support, few years ago

#

7 still getting security patches

dim aspen
#

just remember that your money is safe and secure in ATM's running Windows XP and windows CE

hollow zealot
#

What was the last windows with the old tan/gray taskbar?

tired glade
#

Yea,they don't do that here

hollow zealot
#

Yeah okay

#

Just wanted to make sure

tired glade
#

Vista is first colour one

hollow zealot
#

My dad works from home on an iMac and the first time I saw xp's desktop there I was very confused

tired glade
#

Original look of xp was fully ported from 2000

#

They dich me look

dim aspen
#

I recommend the YT channel of "Dave's Garage" for all your old windows knowledge

hollow zealot
#

Subbed

full fossil
#

what are you busy with everyone

hollow zealot
#

That channel looks like an amazing acid trip

winter vector
#

Are the dell monitors still good for gaming

#

I got an ultrasharp but I'd like to get a new one too lol

hollow zealot
#

Yes the best dell gaming monitor is the P1917S

winter vector
#

I don't like bigger than 27

hollow zealot
#

It's 19" dw

dim aspen
#

i want a monitor setup like in SwordFish

winter vector
#

My dell HDMI mode won't go higher than the 1080p. So I use DVI

#

And then I can get 144

dim aspen
#

i don't mind 60Hz cause i don't play FPS's all that often

winter vector
#

No 4k support

hollow zealot
lilac sage
#

Ye i can live with 60Hz

winter vector
#

Isn't the ms response also important

hollow zealot
#

If it's under 5 you won't notice really

winter vector
#

The lower is better no?

dim aspen
#

i have 2 Dell U2718Q's my work gave me for WFH

winter vector
#

Ya I think 27' is good size

hollow zealot
#

Aight

#

24" is a good size for me, it just looks really really small on my desk

winter vector
#

Ah

#

I need few upgrades it's over 20 years lol

hollow zealot
winter vector
#

Or almost anyhow

#

Cool nice

dim aspen
#

@hollow zealot it's not the size of your monitor that counts... it's the motion of the pixels

winter vector
#

What mouse pad ?

dim aspen
#

jk

vital gust
# hollow zealot

it's called a desktop because it's meant to be in the top of the desk linusShame

dim aspen
#

i don't have a mouse pad.. cause i use a MX Ergo trackball

winter vector
#

Ah

dim aspen
winter vector
#

@hollow zealot which pad is it

vital gust
winter vector
#

Mines on the floor

#

No carpet

dim aspen
#

and technically he's got a Tower not a desktop

winter vector
#

Looks like a mid tower

dim aspen
#

desktop's used to refer to the horizontal box's you put your monitors on top

winter vector
#

I'd love a full tower lol

dim aspen
#

i only build in full tower cases

winter vector
#

Just for the space it offers

#

I got a nzxt z90, or something

hollow zealot
winter vector
#

@lux02 what pad is that you use

hollow zealot
#

That my PC is on or my chair mat

#

Or deskpad

#

There's quite a few pads

winter vector
#

The one your kB mouse are on

#

Is it Corsair?

hollow zealot
#

Razer gargantuan v2

#

Only available in a bundle, not sold alone

#

Closest equivalent

winter vector
#

Ahh sweet

#

Does that plug come off?

#

The RGB plug

hollow zealot
#

No clue

#

I don't like rgb

winter vector
#

K

#

My bk and mouse are rgb

hollow zealot
#

In fact, my plan for that case is to make a side panel to mount yet another 200mm fan

winter vector
#

Cool

hollow zealot
#

Wha

winter vector
#

Was reading reviews on the razor mouse pad. Apparently it comes rolled and the pad ends up wavy and won't ever flatten

agile jetty
#

Bro what

#

How was that

#

I'm being honest. Sarah is my fav person at LMG

#

besides Dennis ofc

#

Live Laugh Liao

robust stratus
hollow zealot
#

And Luke

#

And the best of all
The whole of LMG

agile jetty
#

Why did you remind me of luke getting fired

hollow zealot
#

What

agile jetty
#

Did luke get rehired or somethin

lilac sage
#

No he works for floatplane

hollow zealot
#

He runs floatplane

#

Correct me if I'm wrong

agile jetty
#

OOH

dim aspen
#

My favorite is Anthony

hearty spear
#

Floatplane is technically a separate company and Luke is in charge of it

hollow zealot
#

I thought lmg owns fp

agile jetty
#

Ima be dead honest, my fav years ago was Ivan
And their floatplane channel is technically apart of LMG

hearty spear
#

because other creators use it, having it be a LTT subsidiary would be a conflict

dim aspen
#

correct

agile jetty
dim aspen
#

though i think linus talked about wanting to create an umbrella company over LTT and FP

hollow zealot
#

Okay that's probably what I was thinking of

agile jetty
#

I think I just ate expired chicken

#

Screw you, Vietnamese Resturant

#

Not racist but it's called Viet house and that chicken tasted rotten

tiny plank
#

Does LTT sell old/no longer in use parts? I could do with a 7th gen board i cant find none in my country πŸ’€

tiny plank
#

I did aint no reply

agile jetty
#

And see if you can cop a nice 3090

dim aspen
#

have you seen their warehouse

hollow zealot
#

Does lmg even have a 3090

dim aspen
#

they keep everything cause they neve rknow when it might be useful in a future video or b-roll

tiny plank
#

Naw dont need a 3090 i have a 6600xt l

tiny plank
#

I just want to upgrade the motherboard without having to go to a different gen i just need more 4 pin connectors for fans 😭😭

robust stratus
#

get 4-pin splitter

#

or fan hub

hollow zealot
#

Is there any way to run dc fans with pwm headers at variable speed

tiny plank
#

Fan hub? I never thought of that πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

hearty spear
#

Fan Headers are usually 1A each. (Check the motherboard manual) you can stack fans up to 1A on each one.

robust stratus
hearty spear
robust stratus
tiny plank
#

My mb only has one sys fan connecter its so dumb

hearty spear
#

itx?

hollow zealot
#

So no, I can't do it then

hearty spear
hollow zealot
#

Time to buy $60 worth of Noctua fans ig

#

3 pin

hearty spear
#

noctua is hella overpriced

tiny plank
hollow zealot
#

200mm fans are $36 per

robust stratus
#

worth it

hearty spear
#

What motherboard LuxO2?

tiny plank
#

Gigabyte h110m

#

Old as hell

hearty spear
#

weird, matx with only one fan header

hollow zealot
vapid smelt
#

Such a small Market for 200mm fans they are 16 bucks or 35 with selection of like 12

hollow zealot
#

They're so great though

hearty spear
hollow zealot
#

And they do so while being generally quiet

tiny plank
hearty spear
hollow zealot
#

I tried to find it when first setting it up, did not have the option

#

Bios update time?

dim aspen
#

@hollow zealot the easiest way to do it is to look on your motherboard and find the bios chip.. then shove a nail through it

#

voltage control then should be available

hollow zealot
#

Perfect

vapid smelt
#

Iv seen people use 200mm in rvs and campers as a poor man's ac to move cool air in

dim aspen
#

welp i'm going to head down to circuit city and pick up a new PC then go rent some VHS tapes from Blockbuster

hollow zealot
#

I'm parked in front of the house for my next ticket

#

Should I continue to procrastinate or go and do my job

vapid smelt
dim aspen
#

$1.00 a gallon

#

then we'll crank down the windows and drive down main street

vapid smelt
#

My birth year 2000 gas was 1.50 damn was it cheap

dim aspen
#

that would be $2.50 in todays dollars

lilac sage
#

I dont think my family was ever concerned with gas. They got a prius in 2002

vapid smelt
#

When I started to drive in 2016 it was 2.60

dim aspen
#

i started driving in 1999

#

well 1998 with the learners permit

vapid smelt
#

Damn your nearly 40

lilac sage
#

I recently learned my family does age calculation based upon my age.

dim aspen
#

almost

lilac sage
#

since im also a 2000 kid

dim aspen
#

or as i say i'm about to acheive level 40 in the game of life

vapid smelt
#

Being born in even 2000 is great for age calculations

hearty spear
dim aspen
#

Coopa over here Dox'ing me πŸ˜›

lilac sage
#

40 is kewl

#

you shoulda just said you got your permit late

hearty spear
#

damnit. My replacement drives are coming in tomorrow.
But I won't be at work tomrorw

lilac sage
#

Go to work as a visitor

#

annoy your coworkers :P

hollow zealot
#

Bruh my customer has an index box just sitting here

#

I feel teased

agile jetty
#

When my Dad was born gas was .30 a gallon

dim aspen
#

1953?

agile jetty
#

1949 Arkansas

pliant lintel
#

can someone help in tehck chat 1 please?

agile jetty
#

And I'm 14
He had me at 59.

dim aspen
#

so if he was born in 1949 and gas was .30 a gallon that would be equivalent to $3.61 a gallon these days

agile jetty
#

Yep. Where I am gas is 3.73 a gallon

jovial meteor
#

Where can I sell some PC parts online?

dim aspen
#

ebay

jovial meteor
#

They won't eat up profits?

vapid smelt
#

Fb market place

dim aspen
#

everywhere you sell is going to eat up some of your profits online

#

hell even getting a spot at a swap meet IRL costs you some money

#

you could always advertise on craigslist

#

but.. good luck on fending off the scammers

agile jetty
#

I sold a gtx 1080 to someone for $1

hearty spear
#

So far I have had good luck on stuff from FB Marketplace

jovial meteor
#

Yeah I currently have my mobo posted on OfferUp and I just keep getting low ballers offering half or less of my price

dim aspen
#

maybe you're just selling it for too high?

agile jetty
#

They replied to me saying it was slow
No shit man i mined btc on it

jovial meteor
#

msi b560 tomahawk wifi

#

I have it listed for $160 in hopes of someone asking for $140

#

Its worth $200

hearty spear
#

That is high for a used board.

dim aspen
#

it sells new for $200.. it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it used

jovial meteor
#

It's new, open box **

dim aspen
#

i'd pay about $100 max for a board from some random person

jovial meteor
#

I was planning to work on a build but can't work on that right now so selling it

vapid smelt
vagrant valley
#

My motherboard has 4 ram slots
Which one should I put my single ram in? ( ddr4)

short copper
dim aspen
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they take a lot of risk buying from some random person vs a business which has a presence and licenses etc

hearty spear
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I bought an ITX Board & Noctua Low Profile cooler for 80$ off FB Marketplace

dim aspen
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so the price people are willing to pay reflects that risk

jovial meteor
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True I guess I might just end up keeping it

dim aspen
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i have some DDR2 Ram i could sell πŸ˜›

vagrant valley
hearty spear
vagrant valley
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So it starts from left to right

hearty spear
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generally yes

vagrant valley
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Thanks

jovial meteor
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Any good deals on 11th gen CPUs?

agile jetty
hearty spear
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near a microcenter?

vapid smelt
vagrant valley
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Is there a diffrence between 2nd and 4th one?

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Oh and also it's only one stick

hearty spear
agile jetty
hearty spear
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you want 2 sticks not 1

vagrant valley
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I only have one

hearty spear
dim aspen
vagrant valley
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Only one stick so I don't think it matters

jovial meteor
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To go with my 1080

hearty spear
vapid smelt
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11700k alone is selling for 250+ on other retail websites

agile jetty
vapid smelt
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No cripple your performance and use single channel ram

light nimbus
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does LTT review all the sponsors before corporating with them?

vapid smelt
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I would assume so

zinc brook
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piece of advice: dont use new intel stock rm1 unless its an i3

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my cpu (i5-12400f) is reachingg 80 degrees with no big app open

vapid smelt
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The stock cooler keeps the 12400 from thermal throttling just is a bit loud

zinc brook
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and i do soud wierd and different but i like a bit of noise

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it just seems scary to me for me to not hear noies fom my pc

molten drift
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Am I dumb to assume a sata hard drive would be quieter than an ide hard drive?

ionic abyss
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no but why belive that

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they contain nearly identical parts

zinc brook
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OH NO

ionic abyss
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the controller hard ware is the main difference

zinc brook
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MY CPU IS AT 95 DEGREES#

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wait caps sorry

ionic abyss
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if its only 95f then dont worry

hearty spear
zinc brook
zinc brook
ionic abyss
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what cooler

graceful burrow
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What cpu

zinc brook
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guys dont be dumb use a third party cooler

ionic abyss
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and cpu

full fossil
zinc brook
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i5 12400f, stock

full fossil
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And desktop only!

hearty spear
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12400?

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jesus that's bad

ionic abyss
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12400f shouldnt get that hto

full fossil
hearty spear
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does your case have any airflow at all?

zinc brook
zinc brook
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it has very good airflow

hearty spear
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so, yes it does.
I'm going with: Your cooler isn't mounted properly

hollow zealot
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Is the index still a good buy

zinc brook
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its 4 clicks

ionic abyss
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did you remove the plastic from the bottom of the cooler

zinc brook
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there is none

hearty spear
zinc brook
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how tf u mess up nvme drives

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their third easiest, to ram and to 2.5/3.5 drives

graceful burrow
# hollow zealot Is the index still a good buy

Vr headset? It's still the best on the market but quest 2 beats it in price to performance handily, since it's so cheap, tracking is great, and you can use it both in standalone or tethered

ionic abyss
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there is a plastic sticker protecting the base of many heatsinks

hearty spear
zinc brook