#dedicated-servers

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lapis ferry
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I didn't

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It set them up itself

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I tried to launch the server with -BeaconPort=15000, still same problem

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Game port?

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or query?

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Dude you literally give instructions and then say you don't care xd

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And chatting here to tell me you don't care

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I pinged you cause I thought you would help me with stuff that I can't do and that's not covered in the wiki page

edgy citrus
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Just wanted to check, for people playing on dedicated servers, is it a known issue that the belts will freeze every time an item hits a new length of belt? just for a couple seconds, then move on to the next section of belt.

Have some tier four belts hooked up to a factory that should feed them perfectly and I'm lucky to get 120 items a minute off of it due to it constantly starting/stopping on the different sections of belt.

sinful grotto
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Can someone tell me what a dedicated server is

pure abyss
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Recommended to set FG.NetworkQuality to 3 on dedicated server and clients?

pine dock
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Hey together,

the console log from my SF Server tells me smth. like 2021.12.5-16.6.10:270: <input smth. here>
So why can I not open Number 4 and Number 5 from the FICSMAS Calender after openening Number 3 just rigth now even after closing and reopening the calender?

haughty marten
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Is it possible to switch a train freight platfrom from load to unload without downloading the map making the change as the host, uploading the map and restarting the server to be functional?

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Nope

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In the "normal" multiplayer the host has to change these setting to be recoginzed by the train correctly and here its the same

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The bug exists since trains and multiplayer I dont think they will fix that "quick"

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?

merry bolt
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i was able to change load platforms on dedicated server a few weeks ago on experimental. have not tried since then

haughty marten
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i try to restart the server

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But it should be fixed cuz "normal" user can not use trains

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Also tried this on a different world and same error

merry bolt
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i am admin on the server where it worked for me, not sure if that matters

haughty marten
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Tried as admin an normal user

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Doenst matter for me

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Nope restart have not change anything

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I'll wait till the owner gives me the save, go in singleplayer change it there and upload it again

merry bolt
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maybe it only worked for a short while then got broken again

haughty marten
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Its the only solution atleast for me

haughty marten
merry bolt
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we were doing back when update 5 was on experimental only. we restarted when update 5 went to early access and have not unlocked trains again since then

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have you tried setting network quality to 3 on server and client? it could be an issue where they didnt set the replication to reliable and it is getting dropped

pine dock
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sigh ok

tired steeple
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I've tried opening a dedicated server and when i try to connect it appears like this:

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merry bolt
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Looks like your beacon port is not open

tired steeple
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and where should i open that

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on the router or on the server console commands?

merry bolt
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router, firewall, wherever it may need to be forwarded or unblocked

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all of the server ports need to be accessible

dense loom
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So I placed a train down with some cars on a track it was working fine until I turned on self driving mode now I cant delete it delte the station that its on I also cant get it to undock. It also is showing my other station across the map where we havent explored yet the train is ontop of that station that is across the map
Not sure how much that makes sense

Check #satisfactory for more info

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Im on a deadicated server

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Im not the owner of the server nor do I have access

summer ravine
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so question, i am on windows and just used the nssm service app to get my server to run as a service. this is in hopes for the server to actually restart when its been running over 24 hours. But for some reason, my saves are being saved in "C:\Windows\System32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\server" and not where they should be. How do I fix this? I did everything that the wilki told me to do when setting up as a service

floral onyx
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What sort of tick rate are you guys seeing on higher tier games with dedicated servers up to 3 to 4 players

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For me when nobody is connected it’s around 118. the docker container it’s built on has a max tick rate of 120 in the engine config.
When one person connects it drops down between 40 to 60 tick rate, then 20s if another joins (3 players) and down in the 10s if we go near mega factories

quick mist
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My server's getting up to nuclear ops, and the TR with three people on will fluctuate between ~20 and ~10, with high and low bursts to ~25 and ~5

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I have not artificially boosted the cap beyond the default of 30 on my server

floral onyx
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That’s just the default from the docker registry I pull from

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I’m only seeing serious or wonky issues when it drops in the the low 10s for tick rate

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Have you guys managed to find a way to keep the tick rate up in the high 10s low 20s

quick mist
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faster core clock on your host's CPU.

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that's really what it comes down to

hardy agate
summer ravine
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no where in the nssm setup gives me a place to define where to save the server saves

quick mist
floral onyx
summer ravine
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@quick mist thank you!

bold atlas
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See www.kernel . org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.html

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I doubt the server calls madvise, so only the “always” setting will work.

lost orchid
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Has anyone tried hosting through G-Portal?

bold atlas
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Seems to have improved my tick rates by about 3%.

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(You do need to restart Satisfactory.)

quick mist
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odd that you'd have to restart a userspace process to effect a kernel-level change.

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but I guess processes might inherit the settings at their inceptions

solemn laurel
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Are there any console commands to remove nobelisks?

vocal jungle
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NO

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oops

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no

solemn laurel
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😦 the detonators aren't working for us 😦

vocal jungle
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that can happen

cloud beacon
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how buggy are tractors and trucks are they worth using?

bright leaf
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are the dedicated servers available for the pterodactyl panel?

quick mist
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They are available for any Windows or Linux environment

earnest willow
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anyone have issues with opening train menus on dedicated

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entering a train then exiting you lose ability to use the scanner on 'v'

sand galleon
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Please read the README first though.

quick mist
earnest willow
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rebinding also works apparently

quick mist
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huh.

frosty gale
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anyone notice server improvement with tickrate increased?

desert bear
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has anyone ever tried to change the tick rate (with NetServerMaxTickRate) ?

vivid dock
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How can I have LinuxGSM run the -beta experimental parameter during install of a Satisfactory server? I'm on "public" atm.

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Which file is the install command for LinuxGSM? i haven't been able to find it

quick mist
fervent wharf
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So, doesnt anyone else expirience a LOT of lag and rubberbanding or is it just me?

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I am hosting from my home, 128GB memory, 8 CPU cores and on an SSD. But I get a LOT of rubberbanding and often.

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hmmm

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I didnt know that would affect it

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I will try that!

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Once I run that command, does the server need to be restarted, do you know?

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OK, I am on linux, if I just restart the service, will it save the changes? I noticed it says "Graceful server shutdown"

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Looks like it did, cool, thanks for the help!

upper crest
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Is anyone having issues where certain players are regularly crashing when running the dedicated server?

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I'm not too sure tbh. I'm running a dedicated server on a separate machine to the PC I play on and my friend is the one who keeps crashing

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I'm sure haha

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I'm not sure I follow. We're currently playing vanilla

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yea that's fair

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I guess would they just need to send their log so that you can take a look or is this something that I can get from the server?

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Still a noob when it comes to finding all of this info

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Basically the most consistent cause for the crash is occasionally my friend will open up a specific constructor we have and that wrecks his game

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though he has also run into crashes while playing on the server and just running around

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gotcha

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I'll see if he's ever installed/used mods in the past, but as far as I'm aware that isn't the case

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just checked with him and he did verify his files previously while these crashes were happening and the files were fine. He also mention that he'd verify again just to be sure. As far as mods go though he hasn't ever run any mods for the game before

vivid dock
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I FOUND THE ENTRY. I updated lgsm/config-lgsm/sfserver/common.cfg with the branch="experimental" value

desert bear
upper crest
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yea I can go ahead and do that because I don't seem to have any issues with it on my end

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also I'm a bit lost, are the logs not stored where your local files are in steam for the game?

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or are they stored somewhere like Documents/Games/Satisfactory or w/e

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gotcha

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okay so I'm just looking at one of my past crashes from a while back, is there a portion of the log that would be best to paste in here or would it be better to link to the file some other way?

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gotcha

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one moment

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absolutely

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I'm good to do that, I imagine I can just make a backup of the save and then uninstall/reinstall the app from steamcmd?

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yea I can ask them to reinstall

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they did verify files a few minutes ago and said all was good that way

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gotcha

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I mean yea I wasn't too sure what was causing the issue because I've not had any issues personally other than the normal lag for the game in general

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haha

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yea hopefully this helps

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last night I had performed a restart of the server and that seemed to help with some of the random crashes, but it didn't stop the crash he'd get when opening up that one constructor

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yea I'll definitely replace the constructor and surrounding stuff just in case

charred atlas
uncut vigil
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How would I go about updating the experimental build of the server? Guessing a steamcmd command?

quick mist
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yes. the exact command is on the Wiki

carmine jay
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how much trouble would it be to setup multiple servers with lgsm for multiple saves and/or EA and Exp?

quick mist
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I can't speak to LGSM but if your host has enough horsepower to run multiple servers, it's as simple as launching multiple instances. I'd suggest using the command line options to keep each one on the correct UDP ports.

carmine jay
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would it just be a matter of incrementing all 3 ports?

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I'm just not sure how to keep two instances from using the same game config in ~/.config/Epic

quick mist
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the confguration file is matched to the port setting. Incrementing each port by one on a subsequent instance is the easiest way to keep track of them, I reckon

carmine jay
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yes. incrementing all three ports seems to work.

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now if I can figure out why my northern forest save doesn't work in the dedi server and my dunes one does, that'd be great.

quick mist
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does the broken save have a history of any mods?

carmine jay
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it might but last time I play it, it was not too long ago and I gave up on mods before U5 came out.

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the save works in the normal un-modded client.

quick mist
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if there are no mods connected to that save, it might be worth posting the save on the QA site with any logs from the server dying as a bug report

hushed gateBOT
carmine jay
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i just get this then the server crashes after doing it's loading thing. :/

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i don't have time to troubleshoot atm. got work in the morning. feel free to leave a ping if you want. 🙂

quick mist
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I'd double-check the port forward settings when you have time; that's the most common cause for that error when trying to connet.

carmine jay
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it's local. no router involved.

elfin dawn
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which server hosts would you guys recommend for dedicated servers?

carmine jay
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welp, it's posted.

carmine jay
elfin dawn
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are the servers stable now? or are they still kinda crashy

carmine jay
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Stableish

elfin dawn
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hmm, I assume that if we dont get a dedicated server, we would need the original player who hosted the server to start a session every time we want to progress on that save?

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ie we cant individually progress on it

carmine jay
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Isn't that how multi player worked before?

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Progress is global with a single hub.

elfin dawn
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ah okay yea

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if the saves were stored somewhere on a server and then distributed to each player when they start a session on that save

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then we wouldnt need the dedicated server =\

carmine jay
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Maybe if they built it that way. Never heard of a server that worked like that. individual progress is done on local saves. The server just allows for easy colab without needing someone to keep a game running all the time.

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Also a dedi makes it easy to leave a world running to fill up boxes of stuff that take time to make while afk.

vocal jungle
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as long as you get to coal power quick hehe

carmine jay
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True

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Anyway. Later.

elfin dawn
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😄

ornate osprey
languid quail
elfin dawn
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It would be nice if the game supported it, it would cost money to store everyone's save files but atleast you wouldnt need to pay for dedicated servers

languid quail
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it would cost money to store
atleast you wouldn't need to pay

elfin dawn
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the point there was that paying for storage will be much cheaper than having to pay for the compute required to host dedicated game servers

languid quail
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the idea itself is just to unstable imo, besides if you don't want to 'pay' for dedicated servers just host your own. You pay for the electricity bill though

elfin dawn
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some services like epic and steam already does cloud saves

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The new game called Icarus that just came out does this exactly

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and its very convienent

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so at least its possible

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but you do see how this would eliminate the need for dedicated servers if you dont require the game to be running when there is no one on

languid quail
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I don't know what icarus ol does but I'm assuming its working on a different principle than what you want

elfin dawn
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no no Icarus does exactly that, the session's savefile is stored on their servers and whenever a player joins the "session" it just lets you download the latest save. Once you are done playing and close the session, it would upload the savefile onto the server again so that the next player who plays the session would also have the progress you made.

Now what if player 2 wants to play when player 1 is already playing? Simple, the server just tells player 2 that the session is already being played and sends player 2 to player 1's hosted session

quick mist
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well it's not quite that smooth

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player 2 gets booted with a "Session was terminated" error, but can jump back in and is told "welp, you're the host now"

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it's an odd hybrid of centralized saves on peer-to-peer-hosted sessions

pallid rivet
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Well @rose valley , pinging you here then 😄
So just to give you a quick overview, I'm currently analyzing the logs to know when a player login or logout, when a save is triggered, that kind of things.
The program that is analyzing the logs is currently scrapped by prometheus & those metrics ends up in grafana.
I wanted to push the project a bit further and see if it was possible to make the logs of the server more "verbose" by adding cmd args and/or modifying the config, so I can analyze them even more & have more dashboards to monitor the server.
Logs that could be useful :

  • tickrate
  • threadinfo ? (which is active/waiting/blocked ?)
    Original Idea was to monitor the server population & help troubleshoot the #913835207466025001 potential regressions.
    But I guess we could also wait the server api that would make those info available soonTM ?
rose valley
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Okay, yes, that would be my first response too. The server API will be better suited for this kind of task. We never intended our logs to be parseable and we are not even trying to keep them consistent/backwards compatible between versions. Since we always need to prioritize what we work on, I'd say adding logging for this purpose would be too niche of a feature to put hours into. I would prefer the log to remain a developer tool intended for debugging purposes.

However, more information is logged even now, and if you run log list on the server console, you can get a list of all log categories with their current levels. With log <category> <level> you can change a certain category's verbosity. You might find something useful or it might be a dead end but feel free to play around and see what's there if you are so inclined.

rose valley
brisk folio
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hey all have they fixed the dedi server being stuck on private yet?

warped oriole
brisk folio
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is that just off the join menu or do we do it via steam

warped oriole
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You connect through the server manager

brisk folio
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just found it thank you

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sorry for being a noob

still forum
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is there a way to check the current server address through console?

regal yoke
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@still forum are you trying to find the ip address for it

still forum
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yes

regal yoke
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Are you host or is friend

still forum
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friend (dedicated)

crystal eagle
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this might have been touched upon in here, can someone please point me out how to edit the save intervals, it is cuseing a hell of a lot of d-sync

regal yoke
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tell him to go to his google and type in whats my WAN ip

still forum
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not gonna work he is offline haha

runic mesa
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You could open Command Prompt (or equivalent) and ping the DNS name

regal yoke
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oh dang

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xD

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I tried

still forum
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yes 😛

regal yoke
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I'm trying to find the .ini for the server but cant find it anywhere do you guys possibly know?

still forum
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i guess time for wireshark or something 😛

cloud beacon
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my server is super buggy all of a sudden

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hypertubes not working or teleporting you and stufff

ornate osprey
crystal eagle
warped oriole
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Isn't it great not even noticing when the server is auto saving 😄

hasty girder
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Does somebody knew which protocol the Server uses to login as an admin?

regal yoke
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Hey guys I tried looking for the ini in this location FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer
but there is no ini file there I have hidden folders on and everything I just cant seem to find it :/

carmine jay
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it's not as bad as single player though.

west wadi
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Can somebody help me out; i follow the steps on the tutorial; i was enable to see my server in game and set it up. But when i hit "join game" it said: you are not connected to the server and it gives a network error your connection to the host has been lost.

carmine jay
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restart host networking?

warped oriole
runic mesa
regal yoke
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@runic mesa Ive looked in both I tried having the server close and it also didnt appear is there a command I have to type to make it generate the file? My server works fine I just wanted to access the .ini

pallid rivet
subtle niche
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Farming the presents ! who else is ?

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halcyon echo
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I've got a server set up, what's up with the 1-2 minute delay upon first login where you cant move at all?

gusty flower
subtle niche
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lmao

warped oriole
subtle niche
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yeaaaa

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get on it

warped oriole
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Doesn't beat this name though :>

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gusty flower
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Pardon my foul language. I must've been drunk out of my mind to write Christmas instead of FICSMAS

quick mist
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English is pretty foul, but it is the norm in here, so..

west wadi
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@slim spoke @carmine jay i tried to restart some things; i come with an update soon as possible 😉

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thanks anyway !

halcyon isle
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I believe I've been redirected to ask here so - I've got a train stuck in a station on a multplayer server. Its saying its docking, yet nothing is happening. Spamming cancel dock does nothing too.

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is there any way I can nuke this train?

quick mist
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this sometimes happens on dedicated servers, yes.

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The best way I have found to fix it is:

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download the save, and load it in a single-player game

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delete the train and its station, and rebuild them

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then re-upload the save to the server

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you may have to do this a couple times. I have had to do this on my server exactly one time so far, and that station has been completely reliable ever since

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(that sound you do not hear is me knocking on wood)

hallow geyser
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Anyone have a lost derailed train? We have one we think has fallen off the map, map places it in the center of the world(no train lines near there). The derail happened on a now defunct line, but we can’t pick that section up. Any ideas?

quick mist
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The map seems to always show trains as being at the center of the map, unfortunately (unless they're basically within line-of-sight). There should be a compass follow-me leading you to the derailed train. If it's not there, you might need to use a save editor (one is, I believe, linked in the pins in #welcome )

halcyon isle
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aaah man thats gonna be a pain

hallow geyser
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Compass leads to center of map as well 😦

halcyon isle
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thanks Dopefish

quick mist
hallow geyser
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Thanks

dusky charm
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Hello,
i'm trying to run the Satisfactory Dedicated server tool via Steam and i get this error in cmd. What does it mean ?!

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yeah, but in game when i hit the server button i cannot login or auth

frosty gale
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Hi, i lost save on my server, Is it possible to restore it or no possible ??

dusky charm
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where should i find the server ip to put it here ?

unknown.png
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thx for the tips ... i've got it working 🙂

subtle niche
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I have done it ! got my power lights 😄 shame they are not multi color but they look wicked none the less

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dusky charm
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@slim spoke
I've got an error ..i tried to enter the server and next second he throw me out due to lost connection

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alpine dawn
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@dusky charm where is the server located?

dusky charm
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on my pc

alpine dawn
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so... your connection to your own pc died?

dusky charm
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i'm trying to run the game on same PC where i started the server

alpine dawn
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hmm

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what IP are you using to connect?

dusky charm
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hmm, the ip of server i guess

alpine dawn
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I would suggest just using 127.0.0.1

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thats going to be most reliable

dusky charm
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while the server is ON, i clicked on that join button

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halcyon isle
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once again - thank you dude.

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I was worried there was no solution

dusky charm
alpine dawn
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good ol save edit to the rescue

alpine dawn
dusky charm
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i changed to 127.0.0.1 after i deleted the server and relogin with that ip provided

subtle niche
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Server editor you say ? 😄 such a thing lives, i might have to have a gander at that

alpine dawn
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and its still booting you out?

dusky charm
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it gives me that error above

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lost connection

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could the loaded mods affect this login to server ?

alpine dawn
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yeah

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someone the other day was having issues because they had a fly mod installed in their game

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uninstall all mods and try again

dusky charm
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ok

idle dirge
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is there a delay between when the game updates and when the dedicated server update drops as ime having issues updating every time it just verifies and dose not download the update

alpine dawn
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no

idle dirge
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using a .bat file to update via steam cmd

alpine dawn
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yeah

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whats in the file

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so far when people say updates dont work I think most of the time people have multiple servers installed because they did something wrong in their update command

west wadi
idle dirge
alpine dawn
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yeah if you guys are having issues make sure you do not have any mods loaded, they are known to cause issues

alpine dawn
# idle dirge

what client are you using to connect to the server thats not updating?

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EA or EXP?

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yeah

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if you are trying to connect with experimental that will never work

idle dirge
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yeh its an exp server

alpine dawn
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not according to that command

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its early access

dusky charm
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@alpine dawn mods were the issue 😦 but yeah, now i'm in the game on my server

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thx

idle dirge
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no mods on mine

alpine dawn
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no prob

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yep

idle dirge
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ah

dusky charm
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so mods are working only on local coop not also on servers

idle dirge
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that could be it

hushed gateBOT
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Ask for mods over at the [official modding discord](#welcome message). - <3 @slim spoke

alpine dawn
idle dirge
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will give it a try

alpine dawn
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glad I never got into modding satisfactory

idle dirge
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thanks

alpine dawn
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would suck to get used to some mod and then have to remove it to play on servers

west wadi
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for me it works now; step 2 is to let someone ellse join

alpine dawn
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what mods did you have installed?

west wadi
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i disabled mods now; i only use pak utility mod normaly for flying

alpine dawn
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ah

crystal eagle
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Guys anybody knows what is this, I think this is causing the d-sync issues in my server, thanks

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summer ravine
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so random question. I use a VPN from time to time on the machine that is running my Dedicated server. Is there something I need to do special with the server to make it work? Its only my brother and I on it, so its not like I have a few people needing to access it. Also some side notes, I have my brother connecting using the ddns entry that I have setup as well. So there is no need to give him an IP address for the server

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just wondering thanks!

crystal eagle
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Is that directed at me?

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I have a scheduler that restarts the server every day, I have just restarted it and it starts doing that

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Thanks @slim spoke

fallow wasp
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2 issues. I still can't seem to run dedicated server off a steam account that doesn't own satisfactory. Which wasn't a problem, I just kept logging into the server on steam to run dedicated then logging into the desktop client to play on a separate box . My server on experimental with 0 mods was running fine for a week through a few updates (Would just update and restart the server or it would crash on its own once a day) But now it just keeps crashing and closing console before I can read anything as soon as anyone tries to connect #dedicated-servers message <server log

alpine dawn
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check the logs

fallow wasp
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Because you need to login to steam to launch the dedicated server files, and a dedicated server is...dedicated?

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thats not the real issue

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the issue is that today its non-stop crashing

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any time anyone tries to login

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trying to find it

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i'm not seeing what console flashed red text before crashing in the log file

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aaand work is now calling, augh, ty brb

alpine dawn
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lol

vagrant ravine
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Well that's silly. Apparently server restarts are paused if your server is set to pause when users log off.

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It said 10mins to restart last night, so I logged off after a few more mins for some food. I log in just now and after a couple mins it says 30 secs to shutdown, so I logged out and waited a few mins. Didn't see anything happening in the server logs. Log back in and a few seconds later I see the server logging window pop up and start logging furiously and I get disconnected. So apparently if you actually want it to complete the restart you need to stick around until you get kicked out lol

alpine dawn
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lol

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maybe that explains why I have never seen it restart

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that and I just manually restart the service daily

pallid rivet
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can somebody explain me which process is working on what ?

unknown.png
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between FactoryServer.exe & UE4-Win64-ServerShipping.exe

quick mist
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FactoryServer.sh / FactoryServer.bat is the script that launches the server. UE4-[Win64/Linux]-ServerShipping[.exe] is the actual binary executable which is the game server that spawns the helper threads with the same process name

pallid rivet
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yeah i see, hence the fact one is doing nothing, gotcha, that's excluded from my prometheus scrapper

fallow wasp
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Finally got the error out of the logs for my new crashing issue as of today on experimental

pallid rivet
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would be nice if it would be renamed as SatisfactoryServer-[distri]-ServerShipping[distri executable]

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to be easily differentiated from other games that could (potentially also) forgot to rename

knotty stratus
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Is there any way to have a client connect to a older dedicated server version?
I often experience that the server version is updated significantly later than the clients, effectively making me unable to play my world without having to move saves.

frosty gale
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I can't answer your question, but sounds like some yelling at the hosting provider is in order

quick mist
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Not until and unless the client protocol version is divorced from the build number. This is not expected to be the case anytime soon, if at all.

pallid rivet
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rate my setup

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alpine dawn
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5/7

crude tapir
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What is the ideal tick rate?

merry bolt
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That is a complex question and depends on server hardware as well as desired bandwidth usage of the server and clients

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Usually anything over 30 is just wasting resources. Whether to go under 30 depends on if you need to slow things down due to some limitation

crude tapir
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Fair enough. We are hosting on a service, and usually have 4 players on nightly. I'm on fiber 1k up/down, and my ms is great to the server. If the other guys aren't on, I'll stay around or near 30, if the guys are on, sometimes will even hit single digits. Wasn't sure if this was bad or nah?

merry bolt
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Really low server tick rate may make the game seem a bit less responsive

crude tapir
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Yeah, you can definitely tell when 2 or 3 of us are speed building. Oh well, not unplayable, plus the annoyance doesn't outweight the joys of watching my friends learn this addiction.

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Appreciate the help and infoz!

merry bolt
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better server hardware should help, especially higher single core speed on the cpu

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also ensuring there is enough ram that the server is not swapping to disk

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and enough network bandwidth to get all the data transferred

crude tapir
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Nah, we pay to have it hosted, and they seem to use decent enough hardware and have plenty of RAM. Server never more than 15% load, even with all of us playing

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Same with the RAM

merry bolt
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15% of what?

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something has to be maxed out if the server is running less than 30 tps

crude tapir
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Yeah, no clue, we just get percents 😉

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merry bolt
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That graph does not break down cpu by core so it is meaningless

crude tapir
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Well sadly, it's the only graph we as consumers are provided

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And I'm too smooth brain to set one up on one of my PCs

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How big is big? I think ours is only like 5.5mb?

fallow wasp
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maybe its the hard drives

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maybe the hard drive speed of the servers

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if you're renting a server out from a host you're not renting an entire dedicated server

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okay they allotted some ram and some CPU space but what about read/write speed on their raid arrays?

merry bolt
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size mostly depends on things like how many belts, vehicles and machines, not overall size. you could build a ton of foundations and not have any real performance impact

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hard drive speed cannot affect tick rate of server

crude tapir
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We did go a little silly with trains and drones, especially trains

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My sorting storage depot is completely train fed, and it's like, a lot of trains.

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I agree, I put a ticket in with that exact question and query.

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Yep. Appreciate the help and suggestions y'all. Have a great evening!

merry bolt
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since it gets worse with more players it is most likely a cpu core bottleneck so seeing stats per core would be valuable

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well is that 8gb the total ram or the ram being used? if it is total, then yeah more would be good

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but if that is 8 out of 16 then it is fine

fervent abyss
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hey guys. so a problem that im facing is that do you have to share your ip in order for people to join your deticated server?

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so i'd still have the problem of people trying to ddos or ddox me?

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ok thanks

ornate osprey
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and if something does happen where you start having an issue... reach out to your ISP and tell them you need a new IP address because people are causing you problems...

copper lily
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i can tell you its pretty heavy on single core usage

halcyon echo
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Not sure if this a dedi server bug or a general bug, my player is completely stuck in game, even after a server restart

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i tried that too

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im loading an older save rn

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hoping that works

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it didnt

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L

warped oriole
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Is it possible to connect to a server using a dns name?

pseudo yew
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lurker 👀

late sluice
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anyone had the rocks respawn visualy after exploding them we cant seem to build miners on the nodes with the shadow rock spawn.

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@halcyon echour not actualy stuck ur body is just desync the way i fixed it was hit escape and force respawn then log out and back in kill my old body and get my stuff back XD

halcyon echo
crystal eagle
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Guys i have an issue with a spawn position collision and i have the coordinates for the error in my server

fervent drum
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or logout near the rock and wait til the daily restart they do

elder tapir
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does epic games have any way to run the dedicated server on a headless linux or do we just stick with steamcmd for that?

reef gull
#

Honestly, I would stick with steamcmd, there is no code differences between the two. It is just that, to my knowledge, there is no headless support for Epic for either Windows or Linux outside of 3rd party tools. At least steamcmd is supported by Valve.

elder tapir
fleet silo
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I'm so tired of these bets not working in dedi 😦

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crimson holly
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replace the belts, and i should work

fleet silo
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yeah but I don't want to do it every time

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it ruins the gameplay

visual notch
#

hey, so i just installed the dedicated server on my vps, but the script wont launch since i am logged in as root.
how can i bypass that? I dont want to add new user and run the server with that user.

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It wont run with root account and exits with a message "refusing to run with root privileges."

remote crystal
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almost everything that opens an incoming port will refuse to run as root

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why do you not want to add a new user and run the server with that user?

pure crystal
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How to create and join dedicated servers

pallid rivet
visual notch
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ah okay. thanks guys.

full vector
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there is a reason it wont let you work as root, as it has serious security implications

ornate osprey
visual notch
warped oriole
regal shuttle
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I don't understand how to set the dedicated server up, every time I run it I get the same warning. It never gets past this line.

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quick mist
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That is a normal warning and can be ignored.

Unfortunately the server does not have a nice frienly "okey-dokey, ready to go! Listening for players!" output. It is generally though, at the point where it stops puking those warnings to the terminal, ready for clients to connect.

regal shuttle
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Where do I find what to enter?

quick mist
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start the game client, go to Server Manager, and punch in the host's IP address; the GUI gives you directions from there

regal shuttle
#

Is there a certain place I have to find the address?

quick mist
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are you running the server on the same host as that on which you will be running the client?

regal shuttle
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I don't understand.

quick mist
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you have the server running, yes? Will you be starting the client (i. e. the game) on the same host, or another host in the same network, or another host on a different network?

regal shuttle
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Are you asking if I will be playing on the same computer?

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I don't quite understand

quick mist
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That is what I am asking, yes

regal shuttle
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Yes I will

quick mist
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okay, in that case when adding the server to the Server Manager in the client, use the IP address 127.0.0.1

warped oriole
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Host = the thing hosting something
Hosting = making something available to other things

warped oriole
regal shuttle
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So I add 127.0.0.1 to the section Address?

warped oriole
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Yes

regal shuttle
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Do I keep the 15777 port?

warped oriole
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Yes

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Most likely at least

regal shuttle
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What would I have to do for my friend to be able to join me?

warped oriole
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Port forward

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If they arent on the same network as the server (i.e. you)

regal shuttle
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Sorry, what does that mean?

warped oriole
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So port forwarding is basically where your router takes traffic coming in on its port x go to the port y on device z

regal shuttle
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Oh alright

frosty gale
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"It's like the apartment number at the end of an address".

regal shuttle
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Did I enter something wrong? I had 127.0.0.1 as the address and port 15777

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warped oriole
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Normally you would have to do it manually, but nowadays lots of routers have UPnP enabled by default

warped oriole
quick mist
crimson holly
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Im not really into dedicated servers, but you dont want to share the address to griefers right? @regal shuttle

regal shuttle
crimson holly
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Im not sure what you all need to enter, but you want to keep them griefers out (so dont share too much information)

regal shuttle
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Yeah I'm trying but then again I'm clueless as to how this works lmao

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That's not the issue rn, I was going to do that later

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But I can't get the server up

median path
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what kind of ram usage are you guys experiencing?

our save is now up to 60 hours, mainly just two of us, but the idling RAM is up to 6GB

visual notch
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welp i got my server running but it stops

Logs:

LogNet: Join succeeded: My Steam Username
LogNet: UNetDriver::TickDispatch: Very long time between ticks. DeltaTime: 20.02, Realtime: 20.11. IpNetDriver_2147474251
Killed
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is tick time is too long for my client?

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i dont see any errors. strange.

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its timeouts i guess. ticks too long. maybe because my vps is far away as of now.

past leaf
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How to open the console? I tried using `, ~, and ctrl+shift+l

visual notch
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pings are kinda bad, 200+

past leaf
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~Yes

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I used that wiki

quick mist
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The Client Console and Server Manager Console are two separate Consoles

visual notch
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Well its timeout errors.

Error: Network Error Recived: Type: ConnectionTimeout, MSG: UNetConnection::Tick: Connection TIMED OUT. Closing connection.. Elapsed: 30.04, Real: 30.03, Good: 30.03, DriverTime: 86.94, Threshold: 30.00, [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: [::ffff:<my IP>]:55558, Name: IpConnection_2147478382, Driver: IpNetDriver_2147478397 IpNetDriver_2147478397, IsServer: YES, PC: NULL, Owner: NULL, UniqueId: INVALID
past leaf
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Cant open any console ....

visual notch
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i will try local server instead for now.

past leaf
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Ah thanks. found the server console

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Thats the most important one

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Yhea i did, but for some reason i thought i could access the server console the same way the SP console.

clever dagger
#

Anyone else having trouble with their dedicated server from nitrado

safe nest
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hello everyone, is there some kind of forum to post bugs or problems with dedicated servers? or a list with known problems? i cant find anything.

hushed gateBOT
trim crypt
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anyone else haviong an issue loading the dedcated server?

neat knot
trim crypt
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im loading the server from epic games and it brings up a black box does a bunch of crap then doesnt load gives 2 warnings

neat knot
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Speaking of which, anyone have any thoughts on this dll error for the Plugin ImgMedia?

FactoryServerdllerror.png FactoryServer.png
neat knot
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You have a link handy?

trim crypt
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this is what happens then just does nothing

fading quarry
#

I'm starting to get awful low average tick rate on a dedicated server all of a sudden, and i have no idea where the bottle neck is, any tips?

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Yea, I have attempted restart on both ends.

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8x Cores and 24 GB memory.

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nothing else is running on the host.

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I mean i could give it 192GB memory and 24 cores.

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But considering host runs ESXi i can only give it 8 cores.

quartz star
fading quarry
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Some specs on the server:

  • Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
  • 8 CPU Cores
  • 24 GB MEM
  • 100GB storage.
  • Virtual machine on VMWare (ESXi)

Host.

  • 2x Xeon CPU X5680 (6 Core)
  • 192 GB Mem
  • 1TB storage (raid-1 8x SAS Spindle drives)
  • 1Gbit/100Mbit internet connection.
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CPU is quite old I get that, but server is barely using any CPU as it sits.

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oh one core is having a hard time >.<

jade cape
#

Sorry if this has been answered already but can I set up a epic dedicated server if we already have an existed world on steam, or would we have to start a new world?

fading quarry
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@jade cape yes u can load your previous save.

jade cape
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Thank you!

sterile shore
#

Is there an arm compatible version available?

bright robin
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I don't think so, and as it needs 1 high performance core, you would have a hard time finding adapted ARM chip (they are mostly if not only many-core oriented)

frosty gale
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not sure what is going on cant connect remotely to my server. I restarted it, reinstalled it and checked my ports on my router / server that they are open this is a screenshot of what is happening

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alpine dawn
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sup @slim spoke

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hows the battle

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cleaning up one of my windows domain controllers

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its running several services that are no longer required

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removing them should increase its stability and performance

late coral
deep forge
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anyone else have problems with connecting to a dedicated server locally with the respawn_sequence.bat taking forever? server is linux on i7, client is able to run game at ultra

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but i don't spawn at the hub, or doesn't that matter?

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it's only at first time connecting

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both pc's are not even near max capacity

fading quarry
deep forge
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ow i managed to kill the server, running speedtest in a browser killed the service

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it crashed when it got to 50Mb/s

alpine dawn
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only windows server I presume?

deep forge
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how can i set the networkquality from the command line options?

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is it as simple as adding -NetworkQuality=3 to it?

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changed it in the gameusersettings.ini file in linuxserver, seems faster now 🙂

green summit
#

We get that sweet sweet docker container yet?

alpine dawn
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there are several out there

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or roll your own

manic folio
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hosting my own server on seperate computer. things are fine but is health regen not working or what?
as in from less than 3 hp bars where it regens back to the 3

agile pebble
#

Are the servers only working on experimental? Or am i able to run it in the normal game?

devout thistle
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they are up on early access which is the normal ver of the game

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and just came out for epic too I think, saw a tweet earlier today

agile pebble
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im trying to make one to play with friends, nothing but pain so far

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is this normal when trying to start it?

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yeah im trying to make it run on steamcmd

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how do i get one?

crude tapir
#

Does this slinky shit these trains be pullin' affect throughput?

fallow wasp
#

Anybody have any idea why a server that was running fine for a week started crashing on client connect yesterday and now just won't even stay up? It's a dedicated server running on windows 10 I don't fully understand the error log here
https://pastebin.com/4d7hzpLn

gaunt gorge
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@fallow wasp Can you try adding validate to the end of your SteamCMD (before +quit if you have it)? Also how's memory on this system?

fallow wasp
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24gb of memory on the system i3770k CPU, 2 sata drives in raid for read/write speed

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didn't have any issues for the first week at all

gaunt gorge
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Also @fallow wasp I see you're on experimental, you may have more luck with avoiding crashes on EA if it's different. You can swap branches with -beta public validate on your SteamCMD.

fallow wasp
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also steamcmd? i'm just launching it from steam

gaunt gorge
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Ah okay

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So try verifying your files in steam for the dedicated server

fallow wasp
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did that, tried rolling back saves too

gaunt gorge
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SteamCMD is a tool for downloading servers and stuff without the full steam clinet.

fallow wasp
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right

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will try the uh -beta public validate thing

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TY

gaunt gorge
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so you just need to switch off of the experimental in the steam GUI if that's how you installed it, and then do a verify/validate of your local files.

fallow wasp
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oh okay

gaunt gorge
fallow wasp
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yes

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i understand

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thankyou

gaunt gorge
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Okay good 🙂

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You'll obviously need to roll your client install to EA/None as well

fallow wasp
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so i've got to go over to EA instead of using steam?

ornate osprey
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Gris, in here there are a couple terms that don't mean what you are used to... EA is Early Access instead of the EXP/Beta client... both are available through steam... EA isn't referencing the EA launcher

gaunt gorge
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@fallow wasp As Mr_Midnight said, it's my bad for referring to it as EA but this just denotes "stable" vs "experimental" (Early Access vs Experimental). Hopefully that makes sense. If you have questions feel free to message in here, almost everyone in here are people like you who want to run dedicated, but we can usually narrow down everything.

fallow wasp
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ahh okay

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ty

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but i made the server onexperimental and client on experimental and it was fine for days

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what made the sudden change and need to turn off experimental?

gaunt gorge
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Yeah, the experimental version of the server gets more updates

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which is why it's called experimental

fallow wasp
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right

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i get that

gaunt gorge
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no idea why it's broken, mine aren't

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but

fallow wasp
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I understand what alpha and beta and experimental is

gaunt gorge
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it could be any number of things breaking it

fallow wasp
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i have a basic understanding of computers

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like enough to be a dell rep

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thankyou

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what im not understanding is everyone/everything has been running on experimental fine for a week

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and suddenly its crashing on client connect

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so wont swapping everything over to non experimental (which made everything redownload all the files) screw with save data?

gaunt gorge
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Yes, and there was probably an update on experimental that didn't sit well, either something with your specific system (software/hardware) or possibly with some feature level stuff within the unreal enigne.

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It shouldn't affect save data.

fallow wasp
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okay ty

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i tried toggling off experimental and it did its thing, verified

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booted

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crashing again

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i gotta go home from the data center i've got this in right now

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thankyou !

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gonna have to play w/ it another day or remote in later

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tyvm

ornate osprey
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Wait you were at the data center where the server is? Do you rent rack space at a Colo?

vivid schooner
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Yay

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I think i got my server set up, Tho i dont know if people from outside of network can connect. Could someone help me test?

queen wyvern
#

Can i install Mods on a dedicated Server from Nitrado? Should i ask my Question in the Nitrado Forum? =)

late coral
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Mods on dedicated server are not possible yet

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Creators of (amongst others) Refined R&D are working on a server manager.

queen wyvern
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ohkay, thanx for the fast answer <3 :)

late coral
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So if you want mods for a multiplayer "server" you need to run a regular gameclient, you can of course, when this is a separate machine, set the graphics to absolute minimum to reduce power consumption.

frosty gale
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Or, you know, just wait a bit to get a less hacky solution.

modern raft
#

ive been trying the fiscmas stuff on the dedicated server i play on and atm i cant open 7th december and todays 8th december in the calender in the hub but can on my personal single player save

frosty gale
#

What does the clock of the server say

modern raft
#

need to check that the guy who runs it runs it on a virtuel machine

fleet silo
#

when I'm walking-jumping the screen shifts rapidly right to left.. I don't know how to explain this... is there a way to fix it?

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It's hard to see it but when you play it its really noticeable

minor oar
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Found it

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@fleet silo You need to disable/set Head Bobbing to 1

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Found in the gameplay setting

fleet silo
#

that + network quality to ultra seem to solve this

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will let you know thanks

minor oar
#

👍

sly reef
#

steam dedi server keeps crashing does anyone know how to fix

elder crow
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@sly reef get g-portal dedi server instead?

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game running for over 300hrs without issues

sly reef
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easy fix

elder crow
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our server is running 24:7, never on pause, the gpu load on a 10p server is currently around 8-10%, running nuclear power already.

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we had 1 issue were we couldnt load, just restarted the server and never had issues again

abstract garnet
#

i was thinking, but did you read any console output of the crash? 😮 That might give a hint, or might not 😄

elder crow
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wdym with "steam dedi"? do you run a dedi and have it on steam? or does steam offer dedis now?

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@sly reef

sly reef
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basicaly steam offers satisfactory dedis

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but they don't work I believe

elder crow
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oh ok, never tried that

abstract garnet
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how else do you download the dedicated but using steam?

sly reef
#

I want to know if in future I can run it of My Own server as I would love to be able 2

elder crow
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as I said, a friend and I run dedis from g-portal for years, had some fs/arma servers there already, their support is good and the server is running great

elder crow
sly reef
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Yep I have just checked out g-portal

elder crow
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if you rent a server, you get an ip and password, then the website that offers the server starts your own game and you get full control over the server

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@abstract garnet

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I dont have to download anything

abstract garnet
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@elder crow I'm not sure, but I think you have to download the dedicated server software using steamcmd or steam. g-portal sets up the server for you. 😮

elder crow
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ah i see

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never heard of that before

abstract garnet
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i mean, it's only available through steam. Or if you buy a g-portal etc service that does it for you

elder crow
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if you download dedi server software, that would mean you host the server on your own pc

abstract garnet
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i host on vps

sharp bough
elder crow
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I enjoy when I dont have to run the server over my own connection and others maintain it for me ^^
If the server would start to struggle, I just send a message to support and they upgrade the capacity 😉

abstract garnet
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im not sure why i have vps. I used to use it for something, but now i've been using it as a games server 😄

elder crow
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dedis rly made mp worth it

abstract garnet
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mp?

elder crow
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multiplayer

abstract garnet
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ah, yes. Playing alone < playing with people

elder crow
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without dedis, it was a pita, after tier 6, you had so heavy desyncs etc

abstract garnet
#

a question. Can you transfer dedicated saves to be used locally by satisfactory?

elder crow
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yes

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and vice versa

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for g-portal servers, i connect to ours with filezilla and can switch the save files or add/delete mods

abstract garnet
#

i just ssh to my vps, and use dd and swapon commands to add swap if im running low on memory. Just as ez 😄 J/k. You'd have to know some basics of how to use linux command line. But you could run a webserver and have your own domain there at the same time, among other things. Or have a mumble server. Or some other servers 😄

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which im not doing 😄

elder crow
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I'm using pcs for nearly 30yrs now, but never got into linux ^^

frosty gale
#

I think I found dynamic zoop on dedi 😄

frosty gale
abstract garnet
#

thanks

fading quarry
#

Considering reformatting my server and installing server directly on it rather than running it through a hypervisor, anyone else had issues with server performance through virtualization?

median path
#

What kind of RAM consumption is everyone seeing when idling?

Mine seems to be steadily increasing, and when nobody on server, the software is dedicating upwards of 8GB

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pretty small save; it's at 60 hours

fading quarry
#

my server sees 8gb idle consumption, but the save is still small (50k units)

median path
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I'm just concerned; as the dedication consumption has doubled pretty rapidly

next vapor
#

is there any workaround yet for autosave-induced lag and related issues?

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I'm completely floored that saving hasn't been made async... this has been an issue since day 1

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it's make a checkpoint, save snapshot in the background, delete checkpoint

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in the real world of dev anyway

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nope, it's just a ground up design flaw. any memory object that makes its way to a save should have a method for quickly checkpointing for a snapshot, the save system then can take as much time as it needs in the background (within reason) creating the save game, then the checkpoint is released

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yeah, obviously

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lol

frosty gale
#

To be fair, their technical reason (at least in the detail they've covered when I've caught them talking about it) is solved by a snapshot/checkpoint/whatever you wanna call it system. Clearly though, it's difficult for them to implement, or I'm sure they'd have done it long ago.

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I'm a bit puzzled UE doesn't have something built-in. It seems like a fairly common scenario.

alpine dawn
#

I am surprised by a lot of the things they have to solve for that apparently are not built in

quick mist
#

I am not. A lot of things, especially once networking involved, are hecking difficult.

Sure, yes, a quiesce-and-save paradigm is fantastic on paper, but then you suddenly have doubled memory allocation to keep two instances of the universe to mind for long enough to save, more CPU cycles to keep track of everything, and a whole other myriad ripple effects, all compounded with not knowing how much of everything might need to be rewritten from the ground up to even handle that sort of operation

late coral
late coral
abstract garnet
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Does the server segfault for you guys on shutdown/restart?

#

(linux)

rose valley
# next vapor nope, it's just a ground up design flaw. any memory object that makes its way to...

Heh. My experience in the real world of dev has taught me that it's really hard to tell what's going on in a project from the outside. Even once I've been in a project for a while, I still feel insecure about making absolute judgements on how difficult things should be although the impulse is there, I agree.

What is a snapshot if not a copy of the entire object tree? So in order to create a snapshot, you need to make a full object tree traversal. That is what our save system does too. Then every object has it's quick serialize function. But what do you do when you have thousands of objects? Our game is different from most other games built on Unreal Engine. Where they tend to have more static worlds, in our world you can build a ton of stuff.

Truth be told, we're not exactly happy with where things are ourselves and I don't think we're done with the saving system but the solution will most likely be a little bit more elaborate than just taking a snapshot. 🙂

fading quarry
# late coral No issues at all, using ProxmoxVE as hypervisor

what kind of CPU are you running? I'm trying to figure out what the heck is going wrong on my server with a sudden huge performance hit. (tho I am afraid that save have corrupted somehow because i get hundreds of warnings when save loads, and its only a 3MB savefile)

late coral
#

I ran on a i5 5250U, early game up to 4 players it ran fine, now running on a faster Xeon processor (model unknown, friends server)

#

You could copy the savefile and load it stand-alone in the gameclient to check if problems persist

reef gull
fading quarry
#

Yea I ran the savefile on the client but my gaming rig has a Ryzen 9 5900x so it would not compare to an older Xeon X5680, that being said loading into game both on client and server takes 30-45 seconds while 3-4 days ago it took maybe 5-10 seconds. So I am leaning towards an issue in the save itself.

#

On my rig i get rock solid 30 avg tick rate, but again 4.4Ghz and 3700Mhz memory compared to 3.3Ghz and 1333Mhz memor on the server.

short blade
low gazelle
#

Bogdan don't kill me with a new save format :D

rose valley
#

There's at least the fact that you do not want to save everything in memory. For example a constructor has a lot of state, such as which mesh to use, animations states and much else. For savegame purposes though, you only need current recipe, overclock status, inventory status and maybe a couple of other things. So if you just take the whole memory in one swoop, your saves will be a few gigs big before compression. Then not all objects should be saved. There are many transient objects in the game. Then you have the problem of pointers. When you take the raw value of a pointer (which is what memory actually contains), you take an address (so a number). That address only makes sense in the context of your current process. There's a lot that goes into that and I'm not going to elaborate on it. So tldr: That wouldn't work, at least with our architecture(which is largely dictated by the engine that we're using).

rose valley
low gazelle
#

People's don't remember how it was before save compression :D

low gazelle
cloud beacon
#

can you use mods on a server?

chrome wing
#

can I download the linux version of the server on windows(I have the game on epic games)?

late coral
chrome wing
#

where

late coral
#

follow the guide on the satisfactory wiki

chrome wing
#

👍 thanks

late coral
cloud beacon
glad hearth
#

Has anyone had luck tweaking server values to improve the general lag / rubber banding?

warped oriole
vital grove
#

Have people asked for an update command switch to use with the server?

vocal ginkgo
#

Question, can you reset the Ficsmass Calendar for the rewards? Or search for a specific item on the server? i Invited a friend on the server, he took the ornament and the other part to research the rest. but he lost it somewhere and we dont know where. So now we cant unlock the rest of the Ficsmass stuff

glad hearth
#

Maybe try toggling it off / on? Not sure tho

fading quarry
#

@late coral damn I just figured its something wrong with the savegame running on dedicated server, have ran it on 4 different servers now and i tried installing steamcmd on my gaming rig just to see what would happen then. Instantly 100% cpu load, but if i load it as a savegame in client cpu sits at 15% >.<

feral dawn
low gazelle
warped oriole
low gazelle
#

Imagine the smile when I first got the new format loading correctly :)

warped oriole
#

hehe <- would be me

vocal ginkgo
alpine dawn
#

I mean...you can save multiple copies of the save file so if you mess it up you can restore a known good

frosty gale
#

is there a way to have my dedicated server continue to manufacture parts while no players are online?

#

I have -unattended marked but it won't work still when players are all offline

ornate osprey
quick mist
#

yes, just uncheck the setting in the Server Manager

placid cove
#

SteamCMD says I'm up to date with -beta experimental, but server manager says my local Experimental build is 174824 while the server is 174799. Is there maybe a lag in publishing new experimental dedicated servers?

quick mist
#

There has not been an Experimental update in some few days. 174824 is the current Experimental verision

#

can you share your current steamcmd invocation and its output?

placid cove
# quick mist can you share your current `steamcmd` invocation and its output?

My current command is
E:\SteamCMD\steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir E:\SatisfactoryServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit -beta experimental
Its abbreviated output is

Steam Console Client (c) Valve Corporation - version 1637624355
-- type 'quit' to exit --
Loading Steam API...OK

Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...OK
Waiting for client config...OK
Waiting for user info...OK
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 0.12 (10485760 / 8818484097)
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 1.92 (169337640 / 8818484097)
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 4.22 (371818760 / 8818484097)
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 6.56 (578609928 / 8818484097)
[...]
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 92.08 (8119759033 / 8818484097)
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 94.39 (8323612857 / 8818484097)
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 96.69 (8526782647 / 8818484097)
 Update state (0x5) verifying install, progress: 99.00 (8730220727 / 8818484097)
Success! App '1690800' fully installed.
Redirecting stderr to 'E:\SteamCMD\logs\stderr.txt'
[  0%] Checking for available updates...
[----] Verifying installation...
quick mist
#

ah

#

I see the problem

#

the -beta experimental is an option to the app_update command, and you're presenting it as an option to the quit command

#

see the Wiki for a correct invocation example

placid cove
#

heh, that would do it

#

good eye; thank you!

quick mist
#

you bet!

placid cove
#

(I hadn't parsed the SteamCMD command line yet to realize how it was structured)

#

More like
& $steamCmd +force_install_dir $appDir +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit
it would seem then

quick mist
#

basically for steamcmd, + is the delimiter between multiple commands presented as a one-liner

#

so if you were to run steamcmd interactively, everywhere you see a + on the one-liner invocation you would be hitting Enter to run each command separately

#

and yes, that looks like a good correction; that should get you onto Experimental.

fading quarry
ornate osprey
fading quarry
#

no thats the VM

ornate osprey
#

wow...

fading quarry
#

an old blade server ^^

languid quail
#

anyone with linux knowhow, I want to transfer my savefile from ubuntu machine to my local windows through ssh

alpine dawn
#

been eyeballin them on auctions

fleet pier
#

new question. in dedicated servers, is there a way you can connect to your server using your local ip? i have the server set up and i can join but if i add a new server with my local ip, it just tries to make a completely new server

alpine dawn
#

wat

#

you are trying to run 2 servers on one machine?

#

on your lan?

fleet pier
#

no. i have a seperate pc running the server on my local network. i want others to connect using my external ip and me to connect using the internal ip (as i do with all my games) to save on data.

alpine dawn
#

what isnt working in that scenario?

fleet pier
#

i have added the server using external ip. i also add it using internal ip. but when i do, it says the server is unclaimed and to enter a name and password for it.

#

so yes. its making a whole new server on the same pc

alpine dawn
#

hmm...that dont sound right

granite acorn
#

Running in to an issue while trying to connect to a Dedicated Server where I provide the password after pressing "Authenticate" and nothing happens. Anyone run in to this?

Looking at the log file, I'm not seeing much that explains the client connection

#

The host is able to connect locally via LAN IP, for what it's worth.

alpine dawn
alpine dawn
granite acorn
alpine dawn
#

oh I see

granite acorn
#

The functioning client is LAN connecting w/ LAN ip.

#

Right, and the browsers sees the server so the NATs seem fine

alpine dawn
#

and you forwarded all 3 UDP ports through your router?

granite acorn
#

Yup.

alpine dawn
#

and you did the same on any software firewall?

granite acorn
#

WinFW is disabled, so that's a non-issue. So... yes, that's been accounted for

fleet pier
alpine dawn
#

lol

#

software firewall?

#

or somethin else

granite acorn
#

Windows Firewall claims another victim

fleet pier
#

im using windows gsm. it refused to download anything but experimental. even after i edited the cs file.

granite acorn
alpine dawn
#

not familiar with gsm

fleet pier
#

so i attempted to install it using steam cmd

alpine dawn
#

I only raw dawg my servers

granite acorn
#

I use a PowerShell script.

fleet pier
#

long story short. two servers. different ports

#

i didnt stop the old one after i fixed gsm

alpine dawn
#

so 2 different save locations

fleet pier
#

ima go look

granite acorn
#

Depends how it stacks the saves. Easy way is run it as different users

alpine dawn
#

no, I am telling you thats how the server works

granite acorn
#

ah.

alpine dawn
#

it goes off the query port

fleet pier
alpine dawn
#

so you have 2 folders likely

#

15777 and somethin else

fleet pier
#

gsm changed it to 78 and i had a 77 from steam

alpine dawn
#

ahh

#

yep

#

that would do it

fleet pier
#

i still could never get gsm to work right. i had to install it with cmd then import it to gsm. it keeps giving me experimental if i install with gsm. no idea why.

alpine dawn
#

oh my bad its not a folder

#

its a binary file

#

but whatever

#

thats what stores the settings

fleet pier
#

public override bool loginAnonymous => true;
public override string AppId => "1690800"; // Game server appId Steam

#

this would install the regular one right?

granite acorn
fleet pier
#

i removed experimental tag after the app id

alpine dawn
fleet pier
#

right.

alpine dawn
#

so yes that would install ea

fleet pier
#

thats what i thought. so theres no reason it keeps doing this to me.

alpine dawn
#

anyway you are starting to dive into territory I have never ventured into

fleet pier
#

its ok. its working.you helped. thats all that matters cute_doggo

#

thanks!

alpine dawn
#

no prob

alpine dawn
#

and nobody has any mods installed whatsoever?

granite acorn
#

Correct. New server save and all that.

alpine dawn
#

I mean in the client

granite acorn
#

Yes I know. No Mods.

alpine dawn
#

clients can not have mods

#

k

#

and I assume client files have been reverified?

granite acorn
#

Yeah, and new installs.

alpine dawn
#

have you tried with several people running epic or is it just one person with epic?

granite acorn
#

We only have one person with an external epic client so that's as far as we've gone with testing. Naturally, a double test would confirm/deny the condition as one person's issue vs. epic related.

alpine dawn
#

I have epic if you feel ok with letting my try to connect

granite acorn
#

yeah that's fine, I'll DM you the deets.

alpine dawn
#

DM me info

alpine dawn
granite acorn
#

Would be sort of obvious but also interesting

alpine dawn
#

yeah typically bleeding edge is not good for stability or reliability

clear frigate
#

I meant to ask, since that whole multihome update build that was released, i have been experiencing issues connecting to my server, like 50/50 chances of working and not working. I usually have to do a couple retries to even be able to connect (not to mention i sometimes lose connection during disconnect, screwing up the save at that moment even with save when user disconnect is on. Has anyone found a workaround to restore the old connection so that 50/50 can be resolved ?

quick mist
#

that's strange; I have had no such issues in quite some time

clear frigate
#

Since the multihome situation, nothing worked the way it did

quick mist
#

out of curiosity, are you still using the -multihome switch?

clear frigate
#

for instance, when i cannot connect i usually see a message like server null, client null, etc

#

and no i am not

#

I only enabled it for a short time until they pushed the patch for that

quick mist
#

this is kind of a semirandom idea, but have you tried removing and re-adding the server in the Server Manager?

clear frigate
#

but besides, i had no issues to connect at all until that very update and since then i have only that

alpine dawn
#

whats the network situation between you and the server?

clear frigate
#

What do you mean ?

clear frigate
quick mist
#

is the server on the same or a separate host from the client? Same LAN?

languid quail
#

is there a way to share fog of war

granite acorn
clear frigate
quick mist
alpine dawn
clear frigate
#

if you don't, you'll experience issues

granite acorn
#

Yeah, I run validate on all my SteamCMD switches. It's just showing the "experimental" version still

#

Even though I took the switch off.

clear frigate
#

technically speaking public would be the EA version

#

so there is public, then there is experimental

#

if you roll back, use public then validate

quick mist
granite acorn
#

yah yah

#

oh.

#

tf

quick mist
#

it's steamcmd "helping" by assuming you forgot you were on the beta and just updating the currently deployed version

granite acorn
#

For what it's worth, my external epic client guy somehow was able to connect now (lol)

clear frigate
#

Now i am wondering if i try to host a server with epic, would my connection to the server be more stable than using steamcmd

quick mist
#

that said: can't hurt to try, can it?

clear frigate
#

i should start by a fresh server first, like, backing up all my saves and configs, erasing it and reinstalling it, maybe that'll fix the problem

#

albeit it's the most annoying part

quick mist
#

how so? the save isn't kept with the server files proper, so all you need to do is burn down the server deployment and delete the one settings file

#

you don't even have to reupload the save

clear frigate
#

unless i just keep going with retries until it shows the join button as i have now for a few versions

quick mist
#

random observation: when I click the orange "Join Game" button I momentarily see a "you are not connected to this server" with a grey "Join Game" button, but I never click it; the game just connects after a moment

clear frigate
#

it does that yeah

granite acorn
clear frigate
#

it has to do with the fact that the server doesn't know you,re connected. Normally you'd straight up connect and not see that window, and it would only say you're connected after being actually in the game

#

That,s one way to put "connect screen faster than client can join"

#

anyway, my current server runs using linusgsm, so i store the launch arguments in a .cfg file which gets used on launch

alpine dawn
#

sorry I kinda peaced out for a minute

quick mist
#

it happens

#

s'not like we're paid to be here or anything (:

alpine dawn
#

shh we are on the clock get back to work

#

😛

#

was sorting out my mic

#

for streaming

#

😛

clear frigate
#

FICSIT tell it, be efficient. Sleeping on the job will get you fired :P

alpine dawn
#

pretty sure they kill you and compost your body

quick mist
#

well-rested workers Pioneers are efficient workers Pioneers!

clear frigate
#

They only retrieve the suit, yeah

#

what would happen if i set the server to disable packet routing ?

#

if it's what was worked on when multihome happened, it could be related to the cause of the connection issues

quick mist
#

no, that was a new addition, but disabling it would be a pretty good test and very useful information to put into #913835207466025001 if turning it off fixes your problem

granite acorn
#

@alpine dawn ea branch fixed it

#

fuck if I know

alpine dawn
#

lol

#

nice

#

glad you got it working

alpine dawn
#

if you want to help with dev stuff hats off to you but yeah EA is way more stable

quick mist
#

(let's be honest, even EA-branch DSs are pretty experimental still)

alpine dawn
#

shhhh

#

🙂

#

stop dropping fact bombs

#

but yeah they are still pretty buggy

#

😛

clear frigate
#

it started happening before the stable experimental was ported to EA

#

so i'Ll try some stuff and see if i can pinpoint what causes my issues

alpine dawn
#

sounds good

#

on the plus side, things have calmed down in this channel a lot

#

which kinda speaks to the stability of the server

sharp herald
#

I have very few problems with Experimental. Been playing for a year now. There's plenty I would fics/change but it runs pretty damn good so far.

quick mist
#

they've been pretty good about correcting the rocky experimental updates pretty quickly. I'm more than happy to deal with the occasional day or two of Sad Server Times

ornate osprey
# alpine dawn but yeah they are still pretty buggy

Yup, had a friend message me that the server needed more ram... Log into my esxi host and find it using about 60% ram and 40% cpu, tell friend he can reboot but resources are fine, anything going wrong is a server glitch

alpine dawn
#

Sounds about right

copper lily
#

Has anyone had issues with certain users unable to connect, even with the serverIP defined in multihome or w/e it was

#

it seems it only affects users behind double NAT

#

I for example can connect fine (server is not at my house)

clear frigate
#

yeah that's my case currently, it worked fine before, until suddenly a certain update changed something, with or without multihome i am stuck in a case of it works, or it doesn't, and i have to press on and retry until it decides to work

#

I have yet to start doing some tests to try and figure out where the connection issues are related to

#

something tells me the NULL i see every so often are related

rose valley
#

Do you remember roughly when that update landed?

copper lily
#

it broke like 2 days ago for my buddy

#

my setup is a proxmox box with a direct IP into a docker

#

docker is now on bridge so it gets the main IP as well

#

i have an idea.. I wonder if its similar to my issues on MC bedrock on this box

#

will test and get back to you

#

oh - worth noting

#

the first time it broke, reinstalling the game fixed it.. for a day

#

(for the client user, not the server, server was fine)

#

they also cannot connect to my home server (unraid docker as well, port forwarded correctly)

full vector
#

game hasnt been updated for 7 days, so 2 days ago doesnt seem like a game update

copper lily
#

yeah, looking at my docker it seems it did

#

but looking at the commits... it shouldnt' have changed it

#

commits were just how steam signs in for updates

alpine dawn
#

I swear more people are having issues with docker and GSM than anything else

quick mist
#

That's why I keep discommending them

alpine dawn
#

😂

copper lily
#

Yeah. I can go native

dusk tiger
#

I cant find the dedicated Server in my Epic Library, but downloaded it through the Link in the Anouncement here though.

copper lily
#

I just like Dockers because I can give my buddies a login on portainer and tell them how to restart it

dusk tiger
#

Does anybody has the same Problem?

copper lily
#

Well I'll probably do though is just make a quick discord bot that gives them a command in our server to restart the service

#

Effort.

#

😩

quick mist
#

I mean..

If you have it set up with systemd as described on the Wiki, a person can be given the Admin password to the sever, authenticate with the client, issue the shutdown command to the server, and systemd will update and restart it..

#

effort: none beyond setting it up as you would in the first place and issueing the password.

copper lily
#

I'm not gonna try to explain what putty is to a few of my friends heh

#

Good news though. I fixed it.

quick mist
#

...putty isn't part of it

copper lily
#

So I rent a dedicated server at ovh

quick mist
#

it's entirely thorough the game client

copper lily
#

@quick mist ah in-game

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Good to know

#

And ovh on their game servers has a DDOS protection, what it does is stop udp

#

And apparently satisfactory does not appreciate it

quick mist
#

... most games use UDP exclusively

#

that's daft as all heck

copper lily
#

Even with ports exposed.

#

Reproducible..

#

😩

alpine dawn
#

see if you can opt out of ddos protection

copper lily
#

I did

alpine dawn
#

oh

copper lily
#

Just.. daft

#

It works now

#

It should exclude the ports unless it's an 'attack'

#

Which it should notify me for

#

I had the same issue on Minecraft bedrock on ovh..

alpine dawn
#

their logic of course is that 90+% of the people on their platform are using it for webservers or email servers that do not want or need UDP

copper lily
#

It's a game server.. even says 'game firewall'

#

Lol

alpine dawn
#

wtf

copper lily
#

Yeah it's.. sigh

alpine dawn
#

yeah they are just dumb then

copper lily
#

It's fine, just a thing to know for others

#

Ovh game firewall

alpine dawn
#

I know of no games that use TCP

quick mist
#

Minecraft does

alpine dawn
#

really?

#

that sounds unlikely

quick mist
#

some use TCP for querying and for server info requests, but UDP for game data

alpine dawn
#

oh yeah query makes sense

quick mist
#

(I may be misremembering, last time I had to adjust my MC firewall settings was back when it was in Alpha..)

copper lily
#

So yeah. Java worked fine for us

#

Because when it did the TCP for querying it would 'open' udp

#

Bedrock however did not do that, and what I would end up doing is having the users with issues go to a webpage first on that box

#

And then they could connect

#

😩

quick mist
#

looks like MC uses both

#

also wow I guess I know a company to never ever do business with if Linode ever goes under

alpine dawn
#

I personally use digital ocean

copper lily
#

yeah im ending this contract next year

alpine dawn
#

many years ago I did use linode

#

didnt like their style of VMs

#

cant remember exactly why but it had to do with the way it handles network interfaces

quick mist
#

strange. seems bog-standard to me

alpine dawn
#

maybe they have changed VM types since I was there last

quick mist
#

how long ago? I've been there for something like ..wow, eight or ten years I'd guess. Time flies.

#

maybe there was something odd with the distribution you installed?

#

...thanks, Discord, for making 1/3 of the emotes randomly the size of Rhode Island

alpine dawn
copper lily
#

stickers op

alpine dawn
#

I had to search my email

#

lol

#

2008

quick mist
#

Why is it in community tech help fora such as this the bulk of supplications are in at least more or less fluent phrasing, but when paid professionals are recording official requests, it's always with prose like this?

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alpine dawn
#

I need 1 help please

orchid vault
#

lol

somber anchor
#

Does anyone know how i can match client version to server version? do i have to rollback client to get it to match to server? I keep trying to update server, but it says on steamcmd that it is up to date. but i still cant play... 😦

orchid vault
#

play with the other client on the server

somber anchor
#

ive tried bort EA and EX

#

both

#

none work

orchid vault
#

make sure you update the server to the latest noted in #patch-notes

#

try using the updated instll cmd lines from the wiki with -beta