dedicated-servers

[hybrid summit]

Here's another

[faint fern]

is there a version problem with "Hosted" servers?
my provider isn't updating the server version

[slim spoke]

tell them to change the cmd to install

[tall oasis]

ask your hosting company

can I use this image for the bug report?

[slim spoke]

link to it in qa post

[tall oasis]

yeah

that's what I want to do

[hybrid summit]

I have some logs i can send

[slim spoke]

just post on his thing

[hybrid summit]

I'm also hosting on linux

[tall oasis]

does it support markdown?

the qa site

or how can I add codeblocks to this thing

[slim spoke]

just link it

[keen vortex]

qa site supports markdown

[slim spoke]

exp they know has issue cause its running ports thru 15777 only

[tall oasis]

but I assume I can't just roll back to EA

[hybrid summit]

I'm not running 15777

[slim spoke]

query port lol

[tall oasis]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a258aa831c8520523624de

upvotes would be appreciated 🙂

[slim spoke]

lol they dont matter

[tall oasis]

still though

[slim spoke]

posts with info will help

[tall oasis]

well @hybrid summit said they have logs

[old parrot]

Yup, sure

[tall oasis]

thx

[hybrid summit]

[2021.11.27-07.22.28:765][468]LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 55.254021, CurrentTimeStamp: 56.926548, Character: Char_Player_C_2147471121
[2021.11.27-07.22.28:767][468]LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 55.254021, CurrentTimeStamp: 56.945312, Character: Char_Player_C_2147471121
[2021.11.27-07.22.28:799][469]LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 55.254021, CurrentTimeStamp: 56.964115, Character: Char_Player_C_2147471121
[2021.11.27-07.22.28:800][469]LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 55.254021, CurrentTimeStamp: 56.983006, Character: Char_Player_C_2147471121
[2021.11.27-07.22.28:832][470]LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 55.254021, CurrentTimeStamp: 57.002178, Character: Char_Player_C_2147471121

this is the spam we're looking for?

[narrow salmon]

Anone else not getting server updates so you cant connect?

anyone*

[slim spoke]

servers update

look at wiki for info

[narrow salmon]

wheres the wiki sorry?

[slim spoke]

topic of room

[narrow salmon]

taa

I have seen that page... thats how I originally set the server up a month ago

im talking about client/server missmatch

[tall oasis]

yeah but the page got updated since

[slim spoke]

005 is exp

cause its newer

[tall oasis]

and if you are on experimental, then you'll need to change your update command

to use the experimental branch

or switch client to EA

[slim spoke]

to install ea server if its installing the wrong one.. replace steamcmd

[slender summit]

If you've been running from steam up until now the dedicated server will be defaulted to the normal, non-experimental build but your client will not

[narrow salmon]

whats 005

oh wait, the appid?

[slim spoke]

end of build #

[slender summit]

Simply do the same thing to change your server to experimental as well

[hybrid summit]

did your issue start when someone tried to connect?

[slim spoke]

its tellin u versions dont match read the #s

[tall oasis]

no

[hybrid summit]

it connected my friend with a blank name, then it stopped working

[tall oasis]

it just randomly happens during gameplay

[hybrid summit]

I had both

[tall oasis]

my friends always connect with a blank name

lol

[hybrid summit]

lol

[narrow salmon]

if im understanding you right, my server is currently Early Access and not experimental now?

[tall oasis]

correct

[narrow salmon]

haha, ok

[tall oasis]

the default command gets the default branch, which was experimental back when it released, but was switched to EA

since servers are available on EA now

[slim spoke]

hence wiki tells u to get the other u have to change info

[narrow salmon]

-beta experimental

gotcha

makes sense now

its updating now, sorry to be a hassle... all working 😄

thanks everyone

[slim spoke]

should stay on ea

[narrow salmon]

So, is there a max number of players per server to server hardware number known?

[slim spoke]

exp is just testing shit thats causing problems

[tall oasis]

question is

[narrow salmon]

yeah, I should... but too late lol

[slim spoke]

if u want to play ur save stay on EA

[tall oasis]

can I roll back to EA?

[feral dawn]

That's really a unanswerable question, as it will depend on sooooooo many things, size of factory, players latency etc etc.

[slim spoke]

u can try but no it probably wont load

[tall oasis]

since the only think changed is the port handling

[narrow salmon]

True

[tall oasis]

hmm

that's sad

[feral dawn]

Yes, just make Steamcmd download the server again.

[slim spoke]

should have played in ea

[feral dawn]

I had to delete the files in the server directory first (keeping my saves)

then get steamcmd to redownload EA

[narrow salmon]

I might go back to EA

[feral dawn]

I would recommend this.

[narrow salmon]

it sounds like a better plan

[tall oasis]

can you post these into the qa thread?

[hybrid summit]

I uploaded them here for static file hosting

[tall oasis]

yeah but do your saves work?

oh got it @hybrid summit

thanks

[feral dawn]

Yes buddy

I would not recommend doing it any other time

but as the EXP patch only provided connectivity changes, it is okay to go back

(this is me saying it's okay, not the devs)

[tall oasis]

sounds cool

[narrow salmon]

I only see like 6 players on my server anyways, but im using a 3900x with 128gb ecc

[tall oasis]

I'll back up my save just in case

[feral dawn]

Single core performance outweighs multi core, just fyi for this game.

there is a bit of multi threading, but the main game simulation cannot be ran over multiple async threads.

[narrow salmon]

yeah, but im also running 10 Ark servers, 2x Valheim, 1x Rust and 1x Wreckfest 😛

[feral dawn]

hehe, a good cpu for that workload for sure

[narrow salmon]

😄

[feral dawn]

@hybrid summit u using pihole/pfblockerng?

[narrow salmon]

I have a pihole 😄

[tall oasis]

lol I just crashed it again

after 2 minutes of gameplay

[slim spoke]

lol

[narrow salmon]

ooof, changing from experimental back to early access on steam makes you download the game again

[feral dawn]

@tall oasis did u see my response to the ticket?

if so, are the logs from Cake relavent?

[tall oasis]

sure, let me get that

[nova karma]

Hey guys! I just get version 173.618 if I update or reinstall my server through steamcmd. Why I can't get 173.879?

[slim spoke]

check the cmd line and folder and such

before validate try putting -beta

[hybrid summit]

one more (don't worry, I'm putting them on the post)

[tall oasis]

@feral dawn added

[slim spoke]

i bet its cause of the 3 to 1 porting

[tall oasis]

likely

[feral dawn]

yea looking at that atm

[hybrid summit]

yes, I'm adding mine in a post

I have all 3 ports forwarded

[tall oasis]

will hop back to EA to see if it fixes itself

[feral dawn]

the log entries that are important are mainly in cakes logs

even if his pihole makes his logs rather hard to read 😛

[slim spoke]

they seen a fix just didnt do it late friday as they were done

didnt want to drop and find out it killed the game or something

so hopefully monday we will get tweaked version to test

[tall oasis]

welp, I'll tell my server to log better next time

[feral dawn]

na na not what i mean lol

what i meant to say is i see the problem already in cakes logs

[tall oasis]

lol

[feral dawn]

but, @tall oasis , for you do these times match up for how long u were on for?

before u were kicked.

[tall oasis]

sounds about right

lol

[feral dawn]

yeah

thought so

[tall oasis]

we barely started playing

I built a couple railroad tracks

my buddy some pipes

server went poof

[feral dawn]

[2021.11.27-16.24.52:896][799]LogServerQuery: Route from '[::ffff:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]:33386' to '[::1]:15000' hasn't been used in '600.587980' seconds. Expiring it.

it "thinks" your connection was idle

so it throws you off

[tall oasis]

only thing I can think of that might have upset it is that I was just coming up on my megabase at great speed via train

and game was lagging quite a bit

but this usually does not time me out

game was running at like 20fps though, not ded

[hybrid summit]

added my logs

[tall oasis]

but by the time I tried to stop, the server died lol

[feral dawn]

what's odd though, is their 600s timer is kinda broken...

oh wait no i see

out of interest, is it always in 10 minute intervals u get kicked

[hybrid summit]

mine has died at 1hr 45m, 6hr, 45m, and 6m

[feral dawn]

and u cannot connect to the server again after yes?

[hybrid summit]

yes

[frosty gale]

Anyone succeeded at switching server from experimental to early access with steamcmd? I removed the beta switch but it still happily validates the experimental files and makes no changes. Not that I'm low on space, so a second server install to enable me to switch isn't a big deal, but it would be more convenient to not have to do that.

[feral dawn]

i wonder if u left the 600 second timer to do it's thing, if u could then connect after 10 minutes.

[slim spoke]

mascot.. before validate .. put -beta

[feral dawn]

Yeah u gotta delete the server data, then rerun the install.

validate didnt work for me

it kept the game on EXP, for "reasons"

[lilac coyote]

You need to put -beta without experimental

[slim spoke]

or replace steamcmd by unpacking it new

[hybrid summit]

it messes up building (places holograms but doesn't place), then times everyone out, then nobody can reconnect until restart

[hybrid summit]

I didn't

[tall oasis]

correct

[frosty gale]

Thanks, that seems to have done the trick (it's downloading)

[feral dawn]

ah so u tried waiting 10 mins to see if it helps?

[hybrid summit]

I have not but I will do that next time

[feral dawn]

tbh, i would roll back to EA if i were you @tall oasis and @hybrid summit

[frosty gale]

I won't claim I think that switch usage makes any sense, though :p

[tall oasis]

already on it

just gotta delete the server folder

because

reasons

[feral dawn]

yeah that's what i did

lol

[narrow salmon]

lol, now my EA is behind my server

[feral dawn]

i told steamcmd to downgrade off the beta branch, and it kept the server version at EXP, i have no idea how

[slim spoke]

mascot its cause steamcmd remembers what it was getting

[feral dawn]

but a deletion and full re-download doesnt take long thankfully

[slim spoke]

so it will actually show u it over-downloads the file if it gets u exp instead of ea

[narrow salmon]

what is the EXP latest version and the EA latest version ?

https://i.imgur.com/eOHZbEg.png

[feral dawn]

hmm thinking about it, it's not how Delta's work

deltas cannot patch backwards without the right increment data.

meh

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slim spoke]

i just deleted my steamcmd and unpacked it again then ran the same cmds in same window

[tall oasis]

well the GUI manages it somehow @feral dawn 😛

at least for the client

[feral dawn]

let me guess, u upgraded to 174005, then took the beta flag off the steamcmd and re-ran it?

oops

[feral dawn]

yeah true, i dunno lol

actually u know what might work...

[narrow salmon]

had Experimental, deleted the server, updated to EA

[tall oasis]

also

[narrow salmon]

and now its back to EXP lol

[tall oasis]

are the config files stored in .config?

because it seems to be loading up a save

and remembers my admin pass & stuff

[feral dawn]

./steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit

that MIGHT downgrade it correctly

who knows 😄

[slim spoke]

lol i deleted all the satis shit on my gaming comp

i installed exp server yesterday and it loaded info thru magic

[tall oasis]

wtf

still mismatch

how xd

I just downloaded the server fresh

[slim spoke]

the file u delete for server admin password and such wasnt even on the comp

[narrow salmon]

was missing this -beta public

my bad

[feral dawn]

try it mate, it's just a guess it might do it.

[feral dawn]

does ur factorygame.log have LogInit: Build: ++FactoryGame+dev-experimental-CL-174005 in it?

[frosty gale]

FYI downgrading worked fine for me, server loaded up save no problems. I used -beta with no parameter (which I guess means it defaults to public)

[tall oasis]

no clue, let me check in a sec

[feral dawn]

good to know

[narrow salmon]

Downloading the server again 😄

[feral dawn]

try -beta public bud 🙂

[tall oasis]

doing that rn

[feral dawn]

steamcmd... you drunk go home 😄

lol

[tall oasis]

pretty much

[slim spoke]

lol just delete it

[tall oasis]

I did

it installed experimental

lmao

with no beta flag

[slim spoke]

i deleted server folder and steamcmd

[feral dawn]

even with beta public, or is that still ongoing?

[tall oasis]

ongoing

[feral dawn]

it's highly possible steamcmd caches some shit in it's ./.steam folder

like branch info

unsure tho

it does not 😄

[tall oasis]

so are we finding bugs in steamcmd now?

[slim spoke]

unpacked the steamcmd and ran teh exact same cmds in teh same windows that did what u got

[feral dawn]

i just wonder if steamcmd wants us to be more explicit, by telling it "I really want you to move off the beta to public branch"

[tall oasis]

it does

it worked with -beta public

[feral dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[slim spoke]

others said -beta ...worked for them

[feral dawn]

as @frosty gale said, we assume -beta without a parameter defaults to public

but, always good to be explicit

ain't we all (other than Scantum) learning today eh!

lol

[slim spoke]

nope

[tall oasis]

I'm on EA, yay

let's see if I crash

[feral dawn]

better @slim spoke ? lol

[slim spoke]

i did this yesterday

[tall oasis]

btw how much is your tickrate with 1-2 players?

[feral dawn]

You're a strange chap lol

[slim spoke]

y cause u just caught up to yesterday?

[frosty gale]

It's just a bit of poor thinking in parameter naming/usage with steamcmd. If it had been -branch or something instead of -beta, it would have made more sense. Even better if it had required it, since it behaves differently depending on whether or not you've downloaded a non-public branch previously.

[nova karma]

-beta doesn't work for me. also -beta public doesn't work. :/

[slim spoke]

sorry didnt know i have to fix things slow

[feral dawn]

18-20 on a medium sized factory with 2 people connected, on a E5-2643 v2

[tall oasis]

hmm

I get like 10 on an E5-2640

[feral dawn]

lol, go chill in the corner or something.

[tall oasis]

dual CPU

[feral dawn]

congratulations for being early, take a "i did a do" sticker.

[slim spoke]

maybe u should im fine

[feral dawn]

@tall oasis does the E5-2640 have a version number?

or is it the base?

[feral dawn]

pat pat

[tall oasis]

base

v0

but I am getting an upgrade soon

[slim spoke]

u just came up with shit we said last nite lol

[feral dawn]

ta

[slim spoke]

yay for u learning

[narrow salmon]

Well my server is working with Experimental save and I have reverted back to Early Access

[tall oasis]

it still helped though, regardless of your attitude

[feral dawn]

Sorry, I'm not reading this discord channel at every waking moment, you moron lol

[narrow salmon]

so thanks everyone for the help

[tall oasis]

can we just calm down? 😄

[slim spoke]

all i said was no to i didnt learn casue did it yesterday

[feral dawn]

i'll just block him, before he makes me more mad lol

[slim spoke]

wow omg earth shattering

[feral dawn]

there we go, problem solved

glad to have both helped and learnt something @tall oasis for sure.

[tall oasis]

so back to the CPU thing

[feral dawn]

just looking at your CPU, it's base clock is low which is probs why your hitting tickrate issues.

[tall oasis]

Server will be getting these guys soon

[feral dawn]

perfect!

ooo a v3

[tall oasis]

hopefully my tickrate will go up

[tall oasis]

mhmm

[feral dawn]

well ur getting the v3 version of my cpu

i have the v2

[tall oasis]

and two of them, lol

although that won't matter much

[feral dawn]

and i can run a med factory at around 18-20 tick

so you should get some performance 🙂

[tall oasis]

define med factory 😛

[feral dawn]

sec

that is a good point tho, med can be small or large to others 😄

do these stats help?

[tall oasis]

hmm

[feral dawn]

Actually bud

do u want me to just host ur save?

[feral dawn]

and see what tickrate u may expect.

[tall oasis]

nah I'm good 😄

but thanks for the offer

[feral dawn]

alright, offer is there if u change ur mind.

[tall oasis]

I should be getting the CPUs any day now

so not in a rush

just curious

[feral dawn]

all good, it's a few clicks to get pter to setup a new instance, so no work for me

[tall oasis]

eww ptero

[feral dawn]

😦

[tall oasis]

god that thing bloated my server lol

[slim spoke]

lol

[tall oasis]

used like 10% across 10 cores via wings

[feral dawn]

not had an issue with it honestly haha

[tall oasis]

I also tried LGSM

[feral dawn]

ah, to be fair i have never had many server instances running

[tall oasis]

but eventually just stuck to good ol' systemd

can't go wrong with that

[feral dawn]

yeah true

[tall oasis]

unless you are an "anti-systemd evangelist"

[feral dawn]

oh no, systemd is a great tool and should be used instead of tmux or screen approaches.

mind u. i do love tmux lol

[jovial remnant]

❤️ tmux

[feral dawn]

u on ubuntu by chance?

[tall oasis]

the server is

[feral dawn]

ever used bpytop?

[tall oasis]

negative

[feral dawn]

snap install bpytop

it's proper neat

[tall oasis]

eww snap

kill it with fire

[feral dawn]

lol

okay fine

apt install bashtop

happy now? 😄

[tall oasis]

better

[feral dawn]

apt doesnt have the latest version, while snap does

but they do simalr things.

[tall oasis]

isn't it just htop?

or what is this?

[feral dawn]

it's like htop, but has network, disk metrics too

[tall oasis]

hmm

[feral dawn]

bpytop also has mouse support, which is neat

[tall oasis]

cool I guess

[feral dawn]

i can get a screenie if u want 😛

[tall oasis]

although there is a seperate webserver for server monitoring I can connect to

if I wanted

[feral dawn]

actually i cant...

[tall oasis]

rip

[feral dawn]

i forgot i reinstalled my whole OS and i have yet to install WSL lol

[tall oasis]

well

that is why you use Arch Linux (btw)

no such issues 😛

[feral dawn]

heh

i rather not try to game on linux personally

[tall oasis]

it's perfectly fine for me

Satisfactory even runs better with Vulkan than on Windows lol

[feral dawn]

dont u find urself limited tho?

[tall oasis]

not particularly

only game that doesn't work is Forza

[feral dawn]

or are there enough workarounds for dx solo titles

[tall oasis]

Horizon 5

[tall oasis]

most dx titles just work out of the box

[feral dawn]

oh, i didnt know this - interesting

[tall oasis]

Proton is a godsend

[feral dawn]

that's the steam thing right?

[tall oasis]

mhmm

[feral dawn]

or valve, i should say.

[tall oasis]

wine's Steam version sort of

but even regular wine is impressive enough

[feral dawn]

redirects & rewrites directx calls to OpenGL i would guess... not really read into it.

[tall oasis]

say what you will about Star Citizen, but you can just one-click install it from Lutris and play it

even though it is a DX11 game

and not particularly well optimized one at that

[tall oasis]

Vulkan but yes

look into DXVK

[feral dawn]

aah i see

[tall oasis]

OpenGL is only for DX9/10 iirc

[feral dawn]

this is impressive

[tall oasis]

and I was able to play Satisfactory pretty well even before Vulkan was added

at about 70-80fps average

compared to 80-90 on Windows

then Vulkan dropped..

and shit got real interesting lol

[feral dawn]

hahah

[tall oasis]

120-130fps average on linux

100-110 on Windows

go figure 😄

[feral dawn]

shows the power of vulkan as well tbh, it does seem to me like a more, how to say like a future polished version of dx

in terms of it's functionality under the hood

[tall oasis]

well

[feral dawn]

threading, async stuff

yadda

[tall oasis]

I think the more important factor is that since vulkan is linux native

it needs no translation layer

meaning less performance is lost

read: 0

[feral dawn]

yeah fair, less overhead due to not having any conversions needed.

[brittle wave]

So since yesterday our dedicated server always disconnect us when we play.

[feral dawn]

anyways, talking of games it's time to play BF2042. was nice to chat.

[tall oasis]

on Experimental?

[brittle wave]

Ye

[tall oasis]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a258aa831c8520523624de

this may be relevant

rolling back to EA fixed this for me

which is safe right now, it seems

[brittle wave]

Why thank you good sir

[tall oasis]

if this looks like your issue, please contribute, if you can 🙂

any gamelogs, upvotes would be appreciated

[spiral root]

Had a Server Crash and since starting server I am not getting past this... any suggestions.

[median path]

not sure who wrote the steamcmd stuff on the satisfactory wiki, but all I ever get is "command not found"

[jovial remnant]

what you trying to run?

[jovial remnant]

and is that directory where youre steamcmd is installed?

[median path]

I change the addresses, otherwise yes

[jovial remnant]

same drive?

[median path]

correct

[jovial remnant]

oh yeah youre doing it wrong

so youve opened steam cmd then typing the commands in

their telling you to type it into cmd or run on its own

or else just do the bit after the +

if you see Steam> youve already opened the steamcmd.exe part

[median path]

so this; but then nothing happens.

[jovial remnant]

id put the command into the run box

[spiral root]

type exit

[median path]

run box?

[spiral root]

Then do the full command

[median path]

ah, misread the part in parenthesis

[silk ember]

Hey guys - very basic question. Are we supposed to be using the **experimental **game client to connect to the dedicated server or the **normal **version? I installed a docker image for it someone added to Unraid and it said the versions mismatched (thanks for the help in advance!)

[jovial remnant]

normal if youve installed normal server exp if youve installed exp server

if youve not chosen which to install then probs the normal

[slim spoke]

005 version is exp

[silk ember]

Its weird, some guy uploaded a premade docker image to the Unraid community gameserver docker images list so i figured why not

but my normal release version cant find the server

[jovial remnant]

just right, im an unraid user too

[silk ember]

the experimental does but it says wrong version

so no worries

Oh cool, you use that one with normal

[jovial remnant]

ive my server on a diff dedi, just use unraid for on prem nas server

[silk ember]

sure

[stuck hazel]

Thanks for the help Kinstry, I was trying to figure this out so I came to the right place!

[foggy cove]

So our server is running an experimental build since this morning, but was running the normal build as of yesterday. Now I can't connect to the server when using either build?

[jovial remnant]

any error messages?

[foggy cove]

On the normal build, it's a game version mismatch

On the experimental, it's a Null error where it can't connect

[jovial remnant]

are you using the public game version to connect to normal server?

[foggy cove]

Yes

[jovial remnant]

must be an update on one end of it, either client or server, does it show which version is running on each?

[foggy cove]

174005 for the server

Experimental client running the server version won't connect

173879 is the normal build, which won't connect either

[modern escarp]

Does anyone else have issues with lifts connecting to manufacturers from splitters (specifically on dedicated linux servers). I haven't been able to replicate my issue on single player.

[spiral root]

Having weird crashes

This log spam for 30s and then crash

[slim spoke]

did u put a belt between manufacturer and splitter?

should play on EA

exp has known bugs

[modern escarp]

Sometimes, a belt is necessary.

And I am on EA

[slim spoke]

splitter doesnt go onto a machine

[modern escarp]

No no. SPlitter -> lift -> machine

[spiral root]

Actually does this, kicks users but server is still running any query to server however just spams this -

[modern escarp]

The splitter sometimes requires a belt between the lift and the machine (or lift and splitter) depending on which end you snap first.

[slim spoke]

dont know

[modern escarp]

I mean, if you do mass builds where you are doing splitter to lift to machine regularly, you would know if it was misbehaving. 🙂

[slim spoke]

i just test the game

[modern escarp]

Having to do a lot of extra steps to get them working. And trying to determine if it's a dedicated server issue.

[slim spoke]

could check the bug site

[modern escarp]

I have. Given the severity of what I"m experiencing, I"m not seeing the kind of posts I would expect. I'm following a thread.

But it's not quite the same issue.

[spiral root]

I only have issues with splitters to machines if it auto-snaps to the machine, rotating the head and then snapping it back manually seems to work.

[modern escarp]

Interesting. I'll give that a quick shot

Sorry CezzBB, I don't have any idea on your issue there. Def worth searching then posting to the bug site if it's consistent and replicatable.

Wow, I'm loosing my mind. After not working at all, now with no intervention by me, it's working. That said, I loaded up a single player game and then went back into multi. I wonder if there was a client side 'bug' that got cleaned out by loading up single player.

[median path]

there doesn't appear to be anything in the wiki about this.

How do I... find my server to make the first connection to it.

[jovial remnant]

in game theres a server manager

[spiral root]

You connect to it for the first time.

So you just "Add Server" then type in the IP/Address & Port you used and then connect

[median path]

right; and how do I know what address that is.

[spiral root]

Well its the address of your physical server?

[median path]

log is just showing 0.0.0.0 with the 15777 port

[spiral root]

Are you hosting on your PC, or on a a remote host?

VPS or Dedicated

[median path]

remotely

no idea what vps is

[modern escarp]

Well, I lied. I can't place directly. I have to copy one and place it, and then it works fine....

[bold wedge]

then whatever IP you use to connect to the remote host

[spiral root]

How do you connect to the remote host to install? the same IP as that.

[median path]

through teamviewer 🤷

[spiral root]

your host should provide you with the IP - but if your connecting to the desktop then you should be able to just open up a browser and google "what is my IP"

[median path]

yeah, okay got it.
sorry, used to more... gui friendly dediservers. I'm not a command line person nor a computer person.

[quick mist]

fair warning, XCNuse: This sort of process is what most dedicated server setups are like, so if running game servers is going to be a hobby, get used to it (:

[spiral root]

^^ THIS

[median path]

I've only ever run a dediserver for DCSWorld; which is ... run app, connect to webset to control

[spiral root]

Running with a GUI just takes extra resources that are needed for the server

[hybrid summit]

upvote + submit log https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a258aa831c8520523624de

[median path]

Okay, seems to be set up

Well no it's just a webgui, quite nice actually, not a gui on the actual computer running it

[spiral root]

Thank you cake - on it.

[median path]

So from here; since this won't be 24/7; I'll just have to run the command to get the dedi running; which I guess only seemed to work with a command prompt.

and when done just.. ctrl C to close?
Anything else I should know that's equally as basic minded as I am about this stuff

[spiral root]

Best to stop it by typing "exit" in console than Ctrl+C

[quick mist]

On a Windows server, the best way to gracefully shut it down is to connect to the Server Manager, and issue the quit command in the Console tab

Xing out or pressing CtrlC just shoots the server in the head and lets Windows clean up the corpse

[spiral root]

Why run a dedicated server if not 24/7 couldn't you just play Multiplayer normally?

[quick mist]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#How_do_I_gracefully_shut_down_the_Dedicated_Server.3F

[median path]

this device has other jobs at times that are more important than gaming

and also not running 24/7

[quick mist]

more important than gaming
Heresy! 🙃

[spiral root]

My Question Stands, I don't mean to be rude I am genuinely curious what makes you want to run a Dedi if not the 24/7 availability for anyone to be able to join. What is the benefit to you over just normal Multiplayer.

[golden dagger]

anyone having issues getting others to join your dedicated server? My server is appearing offline to others and invites prompt me to change the settings from private to friends only but that setting just reverts every time i change it

[modern escarp]

Sometimes it's nice to have a central point for the game. So you can join with friends, and not have to be both client and server.

[median path]

I should've said; currently it will not be running 24/7
I don't have things set up the way I like right now, as this is a multi use device for work and play

[vocal tartan]

Hi, my Dedicated Server Crashes with the Warning not enough RAM, the Server has 16GB with 12GB being available to the Satisfactory Server

[compact basin]

anyone having any issues with their server not updating to the new build version? I've restarted the server several times, and it won't pull the update

[modern escarp]

The new build is experimental.

So you'll have to use the -beta flag for the server to get that build now.

[compact basin]

i'm running on experimental

[quick mist]

How are your friends trying to join the server? They should be adding it to their Server Managers with your IP. Invites do not work because servers are neither tied to Steam nor Epic

[modern escarp]

-beta experimental - you have that in your server command line?

For updating.

(Sorry, I just assumed steamcmd)

[golden dagger]

thats what i figured, thanks for the confirm. I wonder what else is the issue then. i did what is my ip gave the person that and it says server offline. Sorry if this is a dumb question but could this be because my server was created with 'localhost' ?

[compact basin]

im using a cloud server with winscp, ill have to find out where the specific file is again

[modern escarp]

So that... doesn't quite clear things up

Are you using linux or windows?

[compact basin]

Linux

[modern escarp]

The dedicated server (with no beta flag) was pulling in the experimental dedicated server prior to early access release. So it stayed up to date with the experimental branch.

Now that it's been pushed to early access, if you don't make any changes, the SERVER will only follow early access updates. It will not follow experimental.

If you want it to follow experimental, you'll have to add the -beta experimental flag to the update command going forward.

🙂

[leaden turtle]

anyone got experience with that? happening on my linux server since i installed yesterdays update through the experimental channel

[hybrid summit]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a258aa831c8520523624de is this what you're experiencing?

[golden dagger]

does creating a dedicated server via 'localhost' prevent others from joining? (never done server hosting before)

[leaden turtle]

yes, the description fits pretty good

[hybrid summit]

can you upvote the post & post your log

[rose valley]

It seems some people experience that while for some it's pretty stable. Couldn't quite tell what the main difference is between the two groups. So any logs/additional information can help.

If this is too unbearable, remember EA. That branch is more stable and you can use it instead.

[hybrid summit]

just got it again lol, switching back to EA

had no problems before 174005

[leaden turtle]

can you "downgrade" the server to the EA version?

[rose valley]

Good to know. It appears our experimental routing technique is not quite there yet. But we're learning a lot from your pain.

[hybrid summit]

my latest log

ah I forgot to wait the 10 minutes for testing

[hybrid summit]

-beta public validate instead of -beta experimental validate worked for me

[leaden turtle]

cool, thanks

[modern escarp]

For anyone interested in the lift issue (only on dedicated servers) here is the relevant bug report. https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61950869831c85205235ee74

Building lifts to machines/splitters in rapid succession is not possible, if you're experiencing this issue.

[ornate osprey]

I was running EXP and got the same problem any time a second person connected... ended up having to move back to EA to get things to stabilize and allow multiple people to connect

[quick mist]

This is the cross we bear by running the experimental branch of an experimental feature (:

[leaden turtle]

going for the same approach now. seems to be a known issue now and the devs are looking into it

[karmic thistle]

Anyone seen an issue with the resource scanner not working when you start a new game on a dedicated server? At first I had no UI but leaving/rejoining fixed that. Now my scanner won't come out when I hit V. (Also, I'm on EA, not EXP, but there isn't a Dedicated Server EA channel, so if i should move my question lemme know.)

[quick mist]

I sometimes have the V menu just not work. usually it's for the vehicle radial but every so often it's the resource scanner. disconnecting/reconnecting from the server reliably fixes it

[karmic thistle]

Thanks. I've tried that, but maybe I'll give it another cycle and see.

[quick mist]

if disco/reco doesn't do it maybe (just kind of throwing ideas out here) take a detour into a single player game for a second?

[karmic thistle]

Yeah, doesn't seem to be. I'll give that a try. FWIW it is just the scanner menu not working.

[quick mist]

sorry that didn't help ):

[karmic thistle]

Thanks for the replies all the same. 🙂 I'll come back once it's working again in case someone else comes asking.

[modern escarp]

I wonder if there's a plan to address the game save lag. Big worlds look like they're going to get pretty ugly. I have a small-mid sized world, and it's 12 seconds to do an autosave.

[hard dove]

I have yet to run into that yet, what wouldn’t increase save times? Faster write speeds on drives or what?

[median path]

still an issue on single player, even on NVME m.2 straight on a motherboard...

Uh okay, testing so far has gone well with dediserver.
I need to increase number of users that can join though....

And the serversettings.ini file doesn't exist

[modern escarp]

oh, huh. I guess I never noticed saving causing issues in SP

[karmic thistle]

Restarted the server and my client game and still no go on the scanner. I'm not crazy, right? You get the scanner on a fresh game--there's no requirements?

[tall oasis]

seen that bug before, but usually reconnecting to the server fixes it

same thing with the train self driving menu not popping up

which drives me nuts

[next smelt]

Quick question. How does the server choose which save it is going to load when the server is booted up? Is it last saved? Last played?

[tall oasis]

the one that was created before the server was shut down

if not present, I believe it would go for most recent one

at least most recent in the currently active session

it will probably not try to load a save with a different session name

that you would have to force manually

[quick mist]

most recent save of the last active Session

[golden dagger]

does creating a dedicated server via 'localhost' prevent others from joining? (never done server hosting before)

[next smelt]

Okay thank you!

[quick mist]

by default the server willl bind to all interfaces that are available

if you want to restrict it to only people connecting locally from the same machine, then you can use -multihome 127.0.0.1 to only allow connections over the loopback interface

[golden dagger]

i have no idea what any of that means 😅

[tall oasis]

by default the server will allow connections from everywhere

if you want to restrict it to your local network, you need to add -multihome 127.0.0.1 as a launch option

[golden dagger]

🙏

[tall oasis]

in that case the server will only accept connections coming from there

although if you do not forward the ports for the server, it will not work outside your local network either way soo 😛

[graceful mist]

What is a good average tick rate?

[golden dagger]

if i can connect to the server myself does that mean that the port forwarding is working or will it work for me regardless

[feral dawn]

that'll work for you regardless.

assuming ur connecting to localhost or 127.0.0.1

[tall oasis]

it will always work since you're not running through a router to connect to the server

so no port-forwarding needed

[golden dagger]

damn that must be my problem then thanks for helpiong narrow down my issue 🙂

[tall oasis]

well technically you are, but it's not an outside connection, so the port forwarding rules are disregarded

[summer ravine]

how do i get my dedicated server to stop restarting itself every 24 hours?

[worldly crow]

are we able to increase tick rate for the server?

[fringe fossil]

I think the server just runs at the tick rate the system can handle

[worldly crow]

sadge

I think high tick rate can solve some conveyor belt bug

[heady notch]

Does anyone have also so much problem than i to get the trains running? I cant unload Waggon 3+4 whatever i do. Its so frustrating

[worldly crow]

i cant even drive the train when I in multiple player game

[heady notch]

Oh ... no that work

i can make all, loading work to, but unloading is near impossible exept for waggon 1+2, 3+ not work at all.

Now my fully plant factory dont work because of that 😦

[worldly crow]

😫

[heady notch]

i rebuild the station again and the train again ... when now it not work i give up ... and avoid train at all cost

[worldly crow]

conveyor belt is more reliable

[heady notch]

to long distance ... drones work perfect

[lost pawn]

Is Zooping available n Dedicated Servers? For the life of me, I can't get it to work

[still barn]

hi there 🙂 our server crashes all the time with "[2021.11.27-21.02.54:033][687]LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 167.585419, CurrentTimeStamp: 169.135040, Character: Char_Player_C_2147468818" anyone got idea what is the problem ? 😦

[frosty gale]

Works for me

[lost pawn]

You don't have to hold a key down right? Just click on a foundation hold the mouse and it should drag right?

[frosty gale]

R to select zooping, click once to set the first, drag up to 10 away, click again to set the last and build

[lost pawn]

Many thanks Gooey

[gusty imp]

@still barn: I'm seeing something similar, seems to mostly happen when I'm doing construction.

[still barn]

@gusty imp thx for response, something to fix it by self or wait for fix?

[gusty imp]

I just joined to ask basically the same question 😛

[still barn]

:D:D

[gusty imp]

I've been restarting the server and then trying to avoid doing unneeded stuff 😦

[still barn]

unneeded stuff ?

[gusty imp]

My kid plays with me.

[still barn]

satisfactory got "unneeded" stuff ? like killing the mate playin with ? 😄

[gusty imp]

He runs around and attacks things and blows up rocks 😛

So I told him to stop.

[heady notch]

I have no problem with that on my server ... only my trains driving me crazy because unload wont work

[hybrid summit]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a258aa831c8520523624de
upvote this post & submit your logs

this is what bogdan says: #dedicated-servers message

It seems some people experience that while for some it's pretty stable. Couldn't quite tell what the main difference is between the two groups. So any logs/additional information can help.

If this is too unbearable, remember EA. That branch is more stable and you can use it instead.

[heady notch]

now i try it on singleplayer ... hope it works there

[deep light]

make sure the platforms are set to unload

[heady notch]

Its since the stable come out that no train unload ... before it works fine ... since then it bugs.

there are set to unload i checked it double.

and the do not unload also not working with the new train ...

[frosty gale]

I had to rebuild train and one of my stations a few times before my (first) train magically started loading and unloading as expected. Sort of planning to avoid doing anything that relies on trains for a while, until dedicated server's gotten a few patch notes that mentions fixing them.

[heady notch]

Good to know that im not alone ... thx

[frosty gale]

That's first with dedicated server, not in general.

[heady notch]

Im now in single player and it dont work there too ...

[frosty gale]

I also restarted both client and server several times in all of that. Can only hope it won't spontaneously stop working again.

[heady notch]

the strange is that my trucks works perfect since weeks ... without any fuel problems ...

Only all with trains bugs heavily

[gusty imp]

[2021.11.27-21.26.53:467][521]LogBuildGun: Warning: (DedicatedServer) Holo_PowerLine_C_2147461421 failed to construct due to UFGConstructDisqualifier: FGCDInvalidFloor
[2021.11.27-21.26.53:467][521]LogBuildGun: Warning: (DedicatedServer) Holo_PowerLine_C_2147461421::Server_ConstructHologram, failed to construct hologram from construction call.
[2021.11.27-21.27.02:866][827]LogNetPlayerMovement: Warning: ServerMove: TimeStamp expired: 77.541862, CurrentTimeStamp: 78.552452, Character: Char_Player_C_2147420367
[2021.11.27-21.27.04:683][884]LogNet: UChannel::ReceivedSequencedBunch: Bunch.bClose == true. ChIndex == 0. Calling ConditionalCleanUp.
[2021.11.27-21.27.04:686][884]LogNet: UChannel::CleanUp: ChIndex == 0. Closing connection. [UChannel] ChIndex: 0, Closing: 0 [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: 127.0.0.1:33447, Name: IpConnection_2147469914, Driver: GameNetDriver EOSNetDriver_2147482351, IsServer: YES, PC: BP_PlayerController_C_2147469893, Owner: BP_PlayerController_C_2147469893, UniqueId: EOS:(EOS)e854fdce35194fd4b6c739034864a6e2|00022ef012004ec4b441ab6bc598998e
[2021.11.27-21.27.04:686][884]LogNet: UNetConnection::Close: [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: 127.0.0.1:33447, Name: IpConnection_2147469914, Driver: GameNetDriver EOSNetDriver_2147482351, IsServer: YES, PC: BP_PlayerController_C_2147469893, Owner: BP_PlayerController_C_2147469893, UniqueId: EOS:(EOS)e854fdce35194fd4b6c739034864a6e2|00022ef012004ec4b441ab6bc598998e, Channels: 1174, Time: 2021.11.27-21.27.04
[2021.11.27-21.27.04:687][884]LogNet: UChannel::Close: Sending CloseBunch. ChIndex == 0. Name: [UChannel] ChIndex: 0, Closing: 0 [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: 127.0.0.1:33447, Name: IpConnection_2147469914, Driver: GameNetDriver EOSNetDriver_2147482351, IsServer: YES, PC: BP_PlayerController_C_2147469893, Owner: BP_PlayerController_C_2147469893, UniqueId: EOS:(EOS)e854fdce35194fd4b6c739034864a6e2|00022ef012004ec4b441ab6bc598998e

https://i.imgur.com/l5Y7RKR.png

^ What the client shows.

[agile stratus]

Hello!

So when I and my friend tries to join my dedicated server hosted on a Linux machine we get this error (see screenshot).

Also the console says this when you try to join (if you want more just ask):

` [2021.11.27-20.44.50:810][363]LogNet: Remote platform little endian=1

[2021.11.27-20.44.50:810][363]LogNet: This platform little endian=1

[2021.11.27-20.44.50:810][363]LogBeacon: Beacon Hello

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:077][371]LogBeacon: Client netspeed is 120000

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:077][371]LogBeacon: Beacon Join FGServerBeaconClient EOS:(EOS)5b17c3bc972e481d8860cbac0aa55bc5|0002ddbe482e4a64919251cac0f3dea7

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:080][371]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:112][372]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:146][373]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:179][374]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:213][375]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:246][376]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:280][377]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection`

` [2021.11.27-20.44.51:312][378]LogReplicationGraph: Warning: No Replication Lists were returned for connection

[2021.11.27-20.44.51:344][379]LogBeacon: Handshake complete for FGServerBeaconClient_2147478164!

[2021.11.27-20.45.04:836][783]LogNet: UChannel::ReceivedSequencedBunch: Bunch.bClose == true. ChIndex == 0. Calling ConditionalCleanUp.

[2021.11.27-20.45.04:836][783]LogNet: UChannel::CleanUp: ChIndex == 0. Closing connection. [UChannel] ChIndex: 0, Closing: 0 [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: 95.192.132.43:49457, Name: IpConnection_2147478171, Driver: IpNetDriver_2147478407 IpNetDriver_2147478407, IsServer: YES, PC: NULL, Owner: FGServerBeaconClient_2147478164, UniqueId: EOS:(EOS)5b17c3bc972e481d8860cbac0aa55bc5|0002ddbe482e4a64919251cac0f3dea7

[2021.11.27-20.45.04:836][783]LogNet: UNetConnection::Close: [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: 95.192.132.43:49457, Name: IpConnection_2147478171, Driver: IpNetDriver_2147478407 IpNetDriver_2147478407, IsServer: YES, PC: NULL, Owner: FGServerBeaconClient_2147478164, UniqueId: EOS:(EOS)5b17c3bc972e481d8860cbac0aa55bc5|0002ddbe482e4a64919251cac0f3dea7, Channels: 3, Time: 2021.11.27-20.45.04

[2021.11.27-20.45.04:836][783]LogNet: UChannel::Close: Sending CloseBunch. ChIndex == 0. Name: [UChannel] ChIndex: 0, Closing: 0 [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: 95.192.132.43:49457, Name: IpConnection_2147478171, Driver: IpNetDriver_2147478407 IpNetDriver_2147478407, IsServer: YES, PC: NULL, Owner: FGServerBeaconClient_2147478164, UniqueId: EOS:(EOS)5b17c3bc972e481d8860cbac0aa55bc5|0002ddbe482e4a64919251cac0f3dea7`

[ornate osprey]

This is an issue a few people are having with the new Experimental build. I would recommend moving to Early Access until they have the problem fixed. Also upvote this post here: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/61a258aa831c8520523624de and submit your logs so that the devs can get as much info as possible

[carmine jay]

oh boy, log spam!

[vagrant ravine]

Anyone had storage containers randomly go invisible when deleting connected belts etc?

I try to build another container there and it jumps the construction up a level like it knows a container is still there, but it's red so I can't even build it.

[agile stratus]

That is the early acces build

[ornate osprey]

then you might need to open a new ticket yourself on the forums...

[heady oak]

Hey, just checking if I'm understanding correctly, if the dedicated server is running correctly, it should show up in the server manager right?

Or is there an additional step I need to do to make it show up there?

[gusty imp]

I think you have to add it?

[heady oak]

Oh wait so that's for the local ones too, thought that was for if you want to join a friends server

Okay thanks

[gusty imp]

I could be wrong, but I had to add mine way back when.

[heady oak]

Yeah, I just did it successfully, thanks

[gusty imp]

Anyone know if latest experimental save file is usable after downgrading to latest early access? 😐

[heady oak]

Somehow didn't register I had to add my own running ones there too lol, oops

[agile stratus]

Problem is i tried but when pressing submit button nothing happen and i tried multiple times

[tame solar]

send a screenshot of what you're trying to submit

[sharp cloak]

is the standalone using the early access version of the game now? (Edit, why yes it is...)

[unborn siren]

Looking for a little assistance, server running through Shockbyte, versions not matching, enabled steam updates and still not matching i'm still running experimental mode. I am trying to figure out how to ensure its getting the experimental updates not just vanilla updates. any ideas?

[sharp cloak]

The standalone follows early acces, not experimental now

[unborn siren]

Thanks Alex

[frosty gale]

Depends on how Shockbyte is updating the server. With steamcmd -beta experimental gives experimental, -beta public gives early access.

[sharp cloak]

Ah, shiny

[umbral edge]

so im having a problem... i rented a server through nitrado about a week or so ago and since the update last night it says that the server it not up to date with the game but when i reboot server it will not update has anyone else had this issue?

[unborn siren]

to be completely honest i have no idea what you mean.. i am switching from Beta-experimental to beta-none through steam right now.. but everytime i go to restart the server it still is an older verison on the server while the game its self is updated..

[gaunt gorge]

@umbral edge Are you using experimental or EA?

[umbral edge]

steam experimental

[quasi kettle]

Had to rollback to early due to the server freezes.

[gaunt gorge]

@umbral edge The hosting provider you're using may not have the -beta experimental flag set when it updates, you may need to reach out to them.

[umbral edge]

i have and they said theirs is up to date

[frosty gale]

My only experience is with using steamcmd, not the Steam client (as I don't own Satisfactory on Steam, it doesn't show up for me in the client). If you're getting an older version on the server regardless of whether you're running the EA or Experimental client, I'd say your hosting provider isn't updating at all for some reason

[modern escarp]

@umbral edge - So the server, when it first came out, did not have different versions between EA and Experimental.

Now, they are different. If nothing is changed on the server, it automatically updates to the EA branch.

You (or your provider) will have to specifically enable Experimental on the server side, if you want to follow that branch.

[umbral edge]

so the steam version is diffrent to the ea?

[gaunt gorge]

steam has two versions now

[modern escarp]

No. EA and Experimental are both on steam.

[gaunt gorge]

it only had 1 originally

[modern escarp]

^^^^^

[umbral edge]

oic what u mean i thought u meant on epic launcher...

[modern escarp]

So you have two choices. 1: Downgrade your client to use EA only (not experimental). That keeps you on the more stable branch. Or 2, ask your hosting provider to add -beta experimental to the command line to update your server, which will put the server on the experimental branch.

[umbral edge]

i thought i had to be on experimental to use dedicated server through nitrado

[modern escarp]

You likely do not.

However, prior to update 5 moving to early access, you would have.

[agile stratus]

And the text is the same as i wrote above

[umbral edge]

which happened last night?

[tame solar]

you didn't select the version...? @agile stratus

also typo in name: joing should be joining

[modern escarp]

general: No, but EA and Experimental were identical until last night

So now, experimental has had an update, and if your client was following experimental, then your server will be out of date.

That said, if you can capture your error message with the version mismatch, I can tell you exactly what you're on, and what the server is on.

It'll have the version numbers.

[gaunt gorge]

@umbral edge It's hard to say what their requirements are, but my guess is that they're not setting the -beta experimental flag on the steamcmd (which is what is used to download it) If you want to play on experimental, then you'll need to make sure they use the -beta experimental flag, I'm not sure if you need to do -beta public for the EA version as I haven't tested it yet.

[agile stratus]

Still not working with version set but thanks for typo

[fervent wharf]

So, does anyone know how to pass the startup commands onto a docker container???

[tame solar]

odd...

[gaunt gorge]

@fervent wharf which docker container?

[fervent wharf]

@gaunt gorge wolveix on docker that you can install alongside ubuntu.

[modern escarp]

(EXPERIMENTAL) - v0.5.1.2 - Build 174005

Your game is on experimental.

[umbral edge]

yes i know

[modern escarp]

Patch Notes: Early Access - v0.5.1.1 - Build 173879

[unborn siren]

@frosty gale So I just switched to Beta-none on steam and the server is working so 99% sure Shockbyte is not updating with experimental. Sad but still okay considering it is at least in update 5! Thanks for you assistance

[modern escarp]

Your server is on early access.

[misty otter]

Conveyors on dedicated servers seem to be delaying conveyors?

At first we thought it was just a visual glitch until stuff started shutting down due to items p/m
Not being what they should be

What should be a exact 30 p/m conveyor is very inconsistent

[gaunt gorge]

@misty otter I run a dedicated server myself, the only time I saw issues with this was when the machine I was running on was overloaded, but it's also a system in my basement that I use for many other things.

there does appear to be several client glitches though from it, but maybe something with the latest update(s) did something as I haven't been on my server in a week due to work.

[split field]

Does anyone know if there is a page to join dedicated servers? Looking for a chill group server to join.

[tame solar]

some servers are being posted in #looking-for-group-old (ctrl+f "dedicated")

[fervent wharf]

@split field looking-for-group

[split field]

10-4 thank you 😄

[misty otter]

In this case the machine the server is running on is off the same machine running the game

We are running a dedicated server because the host sees the same stuff the clients do

Neither of us have any spare machines to run the server off of though

[fervent wharf]

wolveix on docker that you can install alongside ubuntu.

[unborn siren]

@misty otter on my server, server for some reason my belts would build in the wrong direction... ensure all belts are flowing the correct way.. seems obvious but it happened to me like 15 times now

[gaunt gorge]

@fervent wharf The only way I can think of, and i've mentioned this to others, is to download the "run.sh" script in the repo and modify it, and then override the file in the docker container by doing a volume mount of the file to the given path

[misty otter]

Happened a few times to us too
Specifically the short conveyors for our sorting system

[gaunt gorge]

@fervent wharf or maybe it's init.sh I haven't used that particular container image though.

[vagrant ravine]

Will be getting my home server finished setting up this weekend finally and then use the docker version of the server. Been running it off my home desktop so far and it seems to work pretty well.

Xeon E5-2697v4 w/64gb ram

[spiral root]

Before Update 5 was launched to EA that was the case.

[vagrant ravine]

Was held up by hard drive brackets of all things. The HTPC case I'm using has 2x 5.25" bays and I'll macguyver the parity drive on top of the cable conduit with some two-sided tape heh

[late coral]

Turns out a i5-5250U is fine for a dedi server, but only for 4 players max.

[vagrant ravine]

I really wish when bots instant deleted your posts, they would leave them up for a bit to copy them so I dont need to type everything over again

I got the used Xeon CPU and enterprise HDDs from TechMikeNY, but the used ram from Newegg bc I got really anal about single rank memory etc.

Yeah my Xeon is Broadwell-generation I think? 3.8ghz boost 14core 2.4 or 2.8ghz base

[rotund ermine]

Can the Dedicated Server work on a Virtual Machine? I have here a server 2016 on a Hyper-V server. In the log I have errors like [Callstack] 0x00007ff91cb34f38 KERNELBASE.dll!UnknownFunction [] and several others.

[wheat cloak]

I've followed everything in the wiki, but my friends still cant c onnect to me

[vagrant ravine]

I'm not sure if it can run on Hyper-V, but I believe they have provided a Docker container image

[peak ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902621736602861588/913978098372988979/IMG_1084.mov Still getting this message when I try to connect to the satisfactory server, now keep in mind. I run Rust Servers, Minecraft Servers, a Day Z server and an Ark server so I am lost as to why I keep getting this message when I know how to port forward and do most dedicated server things correctly. This is happening on both Experimental and on EA

[vagrant ravine]

You just need the Linux Stack of Windows or w/e its called to run docker

[peak ice]

is anyone able to tell me why this is happening

[gaunt gorge]

@peak ice A client is bugged out, whoever's ip that is needs to restart their game.

[peak ice]

done that serveral times

[gaunt gorge]

This used to happen more often but I know clients can get in a bugged state.

[peak ice]

havent been able to connect to the server not even once

just shows as offline always

[gaunt gorge]

interesting that indicates that the port forwarding is possibly messed up

or a firewall issue

[peak ice]

I run Rust Servers, Minecraft Servers, a Day Z server and an Ark server so I am lost as to why I keep getting this message when I know how to port forward and do most dedicated server things correctly.

I even tried turning off my mincraft server and using its UDP ports for satisfactory

still, same message

anything look wrong here?

[feral dawn]

@peak ice is that a friend trying to connect to your network internally?

[frosty gale]

Did you get it to work on the default port(s) before trying custom?

[gaunt gorge]

@peak ice what is your startup command?

[peak ice]

thats me trying to connect to my server at a data center I have my server at

[feral dawn]

so, someone else had this issue too, about a couple of days ago

ive seen it before as well with other games that spam a bit of UDP packets.

long story short: Their router was to blame, it was not handling the packets correctly (UDP for this) and causing utter chaos and spam in the servers console

BSkyB used to have this issue here in the UK with their shite routers

the way I tested this with the guy, was to bypass his router making connections at all, aka use a VPN.

which worked instantly.

not saying that's the exact issue you have, but the symptoms are the same from what i have seen so far.

[mighty storm]

some weird bugs when the server is up for a few days straight eh?

[peak ice]

factoryserver.exe -Port=7799 -⁠ServerQueryPort=15777 -⁠BeaconPort=15000 -log -unattended @gaunt gorge

[feral dawn]

Do u have any VPN provider at all Envy?

[edgy sage]

Should do auto restarts?

[peak ice]

Im using a VPN on my client

@feral dawn

[feral dawn]

i assume u have tried without?

[peak ice]

Hmmm no I havent

[gaunt gorge]

@peak ice Make sure all 3 of those ports are forwarded to your game client.

err game server*

[feral dawn]

the ports are forwarded correctly, it's usually a routing issue in terms of another device forwarding the packets, either the router doing NAT or something else.

I assume other people can connect to your server fine, just you with the issue.

but either way, the UDP spam every time so far for me has been a bad router / NAT issues.

[peak ice]

Havent really tried with anyone else, trying without my VPN on now

Still getting the spam with my VPN off 😦

still says the server is offline too

[feral dawn]

it would

as it's trying to send the connection packet hundereds of times, not getting a response

[peak ice]

just confused if there is an extra step I am missing, I do this kinda crap all the time for other games

[feral dawn]

there isnt, and i have not found a fix yet.

it could be internally in their code, for all i know.

[peak ice]

💔

oh well, I guess it is what it is

I'll keep checking back then

thank you for trying to help @gaunt gorge @feral dawn

[feral dawn]

it's okay, sorry i cannot help any more

If it does help at all, the VPN the other guy used, who had the same issue that fixed it was Mullvad.

[peak ice]

ok, thanks!

[median path]

How can I change number of users allowed to join when the config file isn't being produced?
or a better question:
why isn't the configuration file being produced.

[feral dawn]

Go to the server manager.

Console tab

Type quit.

The config files are only generated after a graceful shutdown.

[edgy sage]

Any ideas why on auto restart the server doesnt restart? it just shuts down

[warped sphinx]

How do i safely close my server? neither instruction from the wiki worked

[frosty gale]

The console in the client should work. Type quit and hit enter. With the latest experimental the window doesn't close itself anymore, though.

(Assuming you're running Windows)

[warped sphinx]

Do i type that when im on the actual server? Im on main and it just kkilled the game

[frosty gale]

You don't have to be playing, just on the main menu.

[rancid pumice]

@peak ice did u figure out your server

[rose olive]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tall oasis]

did you configure it as a service?

[leaden sand]

Death on a dedicated server seems to introduce some interesting bugs

[young perch]

@rotund ermine I personally host m'y own server on a hyper-v with a dedicated Network adapter and it runs perfectly. Probly Works also with shared Network card with host but I had issues connecting to several games when i used this pattern for other games in the past.

But yeah, Hyper-V is a perfect fit for it.

[edgy sage]

I dont think so... I made a batch file which starts factoryserver.exe with the switches i need
In game, every 24 hours it will say 'server restarting in...'. I haven't configured any auto restarts from server side

[young perch]

I think that is the expected behaviour, i use same method and I Do not think IT restart by itself for me neither

Hyper likely asked if you are running it as a service, because this could likely be automated somehow that way

I know as a service it would at least boot up with your OS.

[edgy sage]

Yeh, I have batch scripts run on startup so that it will launch with OS.
I'm fine with it restarting every 24hrs. But its annoying when it doesnt actually turn back on lol

[young wasp]

I keep getting these errors when trying to join my own server

[left onyx]

i really want to join a server

[young wasp]

"Warning: Steam Dedicated Server API failed to initialize."
"Warning: STEAM: Failed to initialize Steam, this could be due to a Steam server and client running on the same machine. Try running with -NOSTEAM on the cmdline to disable."
Where would I put -NOSTEAM?

[vagrant ravine]

Make a scheduled task to turn it back on 5mins after it turns off? heh

[vagrant ravine]

In the BAT file if you made that, otherwise create a shortcut and add it as a launch flag.

[young wasp]

Putting -NOSTEAM in the batch made no difference

[vagrant ravine]

It has to be on the same line as the other flags

[young wasp]

it is.

[vagrant ravine]

FactoryServer.exe -log -whaetever -nosteam

[young wasp]

exactly how i had it.

[vagrant ravine]

Closed out all the cmd windows and tried it again I assume? because that worked for me

[young wasp]

am I blind? that appears to say -nosteam to me

I go into my server manager and connect, then it says I am not connected to the server and restarts the main menu

[vagrant ravine]

The server ping on that page is a little iffy. Sometimes it randomly loses track of it for a few minutes then sees it again.

[young wasp]

when I try to connect it puts these in the console:

[2021.11.28-01.40.12:246][104]LogNet: Error: Failed to read control channel message ''
[2021.11.28-01.40.12:247][104]LogNet: Error: UControlChannel::ReceivedBunch: Failed to read control channel message

 Error: UChannel::ReceivedRawBunch: Bunch.IsError() after ReceivedNextBunch 1
[2021.11.28-01.40.12:248][104]LogNetTraffic: Error: Received corrupted packet data from client ::ffff:{my IP}.  Disconnecting.

these are all in red

[warm path]

Anyone know how to download save files from a server hosted by a service such as low.ms? The files don't seem to be located in the file manager. Would there be a way to access them from the web console?

[young wasp]

"Error: SetEnvironmentVar not implemented for this platform: SteamAppId = 526870"
"Warning: Steam Dedicated Server API failed to initialize."
these too

[alpine dawn]

is it windows or linux server?

~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server

thats where the game saves are

for linux

but most likely you will need to contact your provider and work with them

[ornate osprey]

I have some Ubuntu servers running inside of ESXi so it shouldn't be a problem running in Hyper-V virtual servers either

[hallow night]

how do i update the server

[tall oasis]

run the steamcmd command again

[hallow night]

do you mean app_update

i reluached CMD.exe and ot didnt do anything

[tall oasis]

the steamcmd command you used to download the server initially

rerun it

[gaunt gorge]

@young wasp It sounds like there's some sort of data malformation happening on the negotiation step. Where do you host your server?

[earnest willow]

hosting experimental dedicated with steamcmd on windows, i can join my server locally but friends are unable to join

[young wasp]

on my computer

[hallow night]

my friends cant join via my IP

[gaunt gorge]

@young wasp Do you have this issue connecting locally to it? If it's on your same machine, you should probably connect (for yourself at least) to 127.0.0.1 as that's a loopback ip. My guess is that there's likely a firewall issue.

@earnest willow This sounds like a firewall issue likely on your computer as your port forwards look fine.

@hallow night You need to make sure your port forwarding is setup correctly and that windows or whatever system you're hosting it on has exceptions setup for those particular ports.

[hallow night]

yeah xD my AVG isnt set up right so i turned it off, now it works

[earnest willow]

is it ue4server-win64-shipping.exe

or is there another exe to allow

[gaunt gorge]

@earnest willow You need to allow 7777, 15000, and 15777 through (or whatever ports you configured)

just allowing an EXE typically only allows outbound traffic from it, you'll need to do actual ports for inbound traffic.

[gaunt gorge]

brb 15-20

[young wasp]

my friend cant connect to it either

[earnest willow]

do you append -multihome <localip> or public

[gaunt gorge]

you can also do: -multihome 0.0.0.0

[young wasp]

nope, did not make a difference. game still errors out after attempting to join

same errors

also still getting "Steam API failed to initialize"
dont know if thats important or not

[gaunt gorge]

It's not

@young wasp What port are you trying to connect on and what is your startup command? (sorry if i missed it)

Also are you on experimental or ea?

for server and client

[young wasp]

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -nosteam
Im connecting on 127.0.0.1 on port 15777

[gaunt gorge]

You don't need the -nosteam

[young wasp]

Well, someone told me to add it earlier since it seemed to be causing problems

made no difference on or off.

[gaunt gorge]

Yeah

[young wasp]

My game is on EA, I believe server is EA as well

is there a way to check?

[gaunt gorge]

When you run the steam command to update are you doing -beta experimental ?

that's the only way to get the server onto experimental now

[young wasp]

no

[gaunt gorge]

it used to be experimental by default but if you're not seeing a version mismatch error it's unlikely to be experimental

[young wasp]

And I checked the console, server's the same version as the game

[gaunt gorge]

Do you have any third party firewall/av programs?

can you try disabling the windows firewall?

[young wasp]

Firewall is disabled.

[gaunt gorge]

Hmm

it's hard to say at this poitn

did you disable the Defender Firewall

[young wasp]

yeah

[gaunt gorge]

hmm

And you don't have anything else like ESET, Mccaffee, or Norton?

[young wasp]

nope

[fallen swallow]

Does anyone know if mods should be supported on a dedicated server or if there is something specific that needs to be done to get SMM working on a dedicated server?

[gaunt gorge]

@young wasp This feels to me like there's something else interfering somewhere, it could be just a bug in the dedicated server, but if you have issues connecting to it locally then it's just bizarre.

@fallen swallow I haven't experimented with mods on the server yet, I doubt many here have, but in theory some of them should work, you'd need to figure out how it adds them on the windows side, and if you're hosting on linux, there may be potential issues there.

[fallen swallow]

@young wasp That error you posted above is the same error I am getting when trying to load into a save on a dedicated server with Mods installed, btw.

[young wasp]

oh. my god. that might be it.

[gaunt gorge]

Oh... that's interesting @fallen swallow that would make sense why the packet was "corrupted"

[young wasp]

i feel dumb now

[gaunt gorge]

haha @young wasp I did say that i felt like something else was interfering, i just had no idea what 😛

[fallen swallow]

lol, happy to help. Now to figure out how to get the stinkin' mods to load onto the dedicated server

[young wasp]

i just want smart! on my server once it gets updated for u5

[gaunt gorge]

@fallen swallow this is a bit old: https://docs.ficsit.app/satisfactory-modding/latest/ManualInstallDirections.html

but basically you need to add the mod loader into a specific directory, because its all dotnet stuff it should work.

[fallen swallow]

Right on, will take a look through that and see how she goes. Appreciate the tip!

[gaunt gorge]

latest mod loader here: https://github.com/satisfactorymodding/SatisfactoryModLoader

Not sure how it lines up if you're using linux as the server, but windows I would like to hope "just works" because it's based on a lot of the same logic/core stuff.

[young wasp]

wait so just asking, mods on server do work?

[gaunt gorge]

@young wasp Not sure, I haven't heard anyone mention it, they're technically not officially supported to begin with 😛 it'd be nice to see them work on dedicated servers though.

@fallen swallow if you're on linux: https://github.com/satisfactorymodding/SatisfactoryModLoader/issues/114

[fallen swallow]

All good, running on a Windows box.

[gaunt gorge]

alright hopefully you can make some progress on it!

I wonder if you could use SMM and just point it as your servers directory to add mods to it.

[fallen swallow]

So, I changed the install location of SML to be in a 'Mods' folder that I had to create in the dedicated server folder structure and now the server won't even launch so... I'm guessing that it either won't be supported or that's not the correct install process...

[gaunt gorge]

@fallen swallow I was playing with it myself, I get an error that it can't find the module SML so maybe it's just not supported yet

I had to verify my files to fix them enough to make it run without mods lol

[shadow ridge]

Anyone else getting a mismatch error after updating their server? When trying to run app_update 1690800 it's telling me it's up to date

[gaunt gorge]

If you are playing on experimental, you will need to add the -beta experimental flag to the steam cmd

The experimental and early access versions of the server use the same app ID.

If you're wanting to play on early access, obviously you will need to use the early access version of the client and the server without the beta experimental flag

[shadow ridge]

I'll give that a whirl!

[young wasp]

yeah nope, mods dont seem to work with servers

[fervent crow]

creative save files do though

[fickle gorge]

quick question: in the latest changelog, they mentioned:
Implemented a mechanism that routes all server packets through the query beacon, in effect reducing the number of ports that need to be open/forwarded to 1, simplifying setup.
but no further info about how? (with a start parameter, through config, or should be default?). I noticed that my server after updating still listens to 5(?) ports.

also no further info on the wiki, does anyone now more about it?

[pseudo yew]

As supporting dedicated servers may require changes across our environment, it will take some time.
from satisfactory modding discord

[alpine dawn]

its just the default behavior now with no settings

thats for Experimental only

[fickle gorge]

oh... right... its in the title

[alpine dawn]

and yes it will still listen on all 5

[fickle gorge]

missed that one

[alpine dawn]

or whatever it is

[alpine dawn]

more info can be found in #913835207466025001

[fickle gorge]

that channel is kinda hidden...

[alpine dawn]

its not a channel its a thread from this channel

[swift delta]

Server saves aren't going to the same place.. anyone else noticed this??

[quick mist]

Server saves haven't moved from their usual location

[vale arch]

What goes for rental servers then if you play on Epic you wont be able to connect to server, not sure about steam tho.

[ornate osprey]

any client can connect to dedicated server... it doesn't matter if you have Epic or Steam... the Dedicated Server only runs via steam though

[slim spoke]

steam is just hosting the dedi files for css

[vale arch]

I was testing with g-portal rental server, doesent seem to work that great

[slim spoke]

hence u login in anon and download them

[ornate osprey]

that could be g-portal... I have a dedicated server running on a linux virtual machine and I have steam and epic clients connecting without issues

[slim spoke]

hahahaha

[pseudo yew]

Running dedi server and connecting with epic client without issue

[slim spoke]

when e side goes down steam cant play mp lol helps if u know the facts

[bleak dune]

I just installed steamcmd to run a server for epic games players. I followed the doc's and I added in the saved game I wanted to play. I started the server and satisfactory. I clicked on server manager and it says I have to load a game before I can play it. and I wanted to play the game I added to the server. anyone have an idea on what to do.

Now it's telling me the server is offline. ??? I don't get it.

[slim spoke]

you have to forward ports and such

follow the information on the wiki page

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[bleak dune]

ok, Thanks

from what I see in the server console. It looks like there's something else going on

[slim spoke]

good luck

[bleak dune]

no, i can try

Nope, same error.

this is how I'm running it

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -nosteam

same error

Hmm, let me try all caps.

nope, it seems to be stuck on steam. even if I disable it

[clever quarry]

what setting allows me to change the save frequency on a dedicated server ?

[somber falcon]

My satisfactory server doesn't seem to be actually saving the games, nor has it created a config file. It actually lost all the data on restart... Had to download via steamcmd as playing satisfactory through epic games.

Any ideas?

[slim spoke]

wiki page has the info for how to set autosave

elevin u have to gracefully shutdown the server to get it to write out the inis

[clever quarry]

FG.AutosaveInterval xxx does nothing

[somber falcon]

okay, thanks

[slim spoke]

you have to read the info and do what it says to change it

[somber falcon]

thanks xD so simple. Config file saved.

[slim spoke]

cheers have fun

if he installs ea then he should be fine

exp is testing port setups

[polar rose]

Going to assume UFO Object Scanners aren't suppose to be part of the game 🙂

[slim spoke]

crash pods are scanned

[late coral]

i5 5250U With 2-3 players runs fine (screen at fresh server start after the 24h cycle)

Early Access

Currently at Tier4

[pseudo yew]

Are there save(s) out there for testing performance?

[slim spoke]

try reddit

or use scim or save editor to make one

[late coral]

you could ask Refined R&D

they have a public server running

[devout jolt]

Hello how install mod on server

[hushed gate]

Ask for mods over at the [official modding discord](#welcome message). - <3 @mild hill

Nov 28, 2021, 10:02 AM

[late coral]

Mods should be considered to be in the "Academic Research" stage, you know it's going to be available, but nobody knows when

[deft panther]

does anyone know how to change dedicated server session from private to friend only

[slim spoke]

@deft panther there is no way

dedis dont care thats for listen servers