dedicated-servers

[trail radish]

no, the dir is steam

[tame solar]

is this information that used to be on the wiki incorrect?

[slim spoke]

umm ehuf /home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer and the last image doesnt show steam

[trail radish]

yes it does, steam@satisfactory-boi

[slim spoke]

fuck it lol

[trail radish]

im in the home directory of the steam user

[slim spoke]

im not gettin m glasses

[sudden creek]

Quick question:
I want to play with a friend - do I actually need server manager or can we just use 'join game'? What's the difference?

[slim spoke]

share session id and 1 can host

[sudden creek]

exactly, so server manager is only relevant if you want non-friends to be able to join?

[trail radish]

The main difference is you'll never be able to play on the server without whoever owns the save file

[slim spoke]

for dedis

[sudden creek]

aaah I see thanks ehuf!

[trail radish]

unless you share it amongst yourselves, but as you might imagine that can create a headache of clashes

[tame solar]

server manager is for dedis, join game for player-hosted sessions

[sudden creek]

I have managed to get server manager running but now (3wks later) im struggling with updating it..

[slim spoke]

server manager is for connecting to dedicated server

[sudden creek]

the term ' steamcmd' is not rcognized

[slim spoke]

dedicated server just run install again to update

u dont use server manger to install

pinned messages has a link to wiki page for dedicated servers

[sudden creek]

yea I'm on there but it's not making me wiser

[sudden creek]

I used powershell

[slim spoke]

dont have to ping

so u got 1 installled?

[slim spoke]

need to run the same install cmd with same folder to update

kill the server and powershell run install

[sudden creek]

so run steamcmd.exe ?

[slim spoke]

just repeat installing it lol

it should see it as old and update it

[sudden creek]

I'm sorry this is completely new to me

I literally copy paste and have no idea what im doing 🙂

[slim spoke]

u know how u installed it right

with powershell following the set of instructions

[sudden creek]

I honestly forgot. Looking at the youtube video from maturemindedgamers

this looks good i guess

[slim spoke]

ya

[sudden creek]

ok so this was the answer 😄

[rancid folio]

Hi
can you update the server while its running or you have to shut it down update and start it again

[slim spoke]

no

[trail radish]

Shut it down

[rancid folio]

Ok thx

[hallow night]

How is it going with getting valve to let epic users get the server in steam tools

[slim spoke]

no idea

doesnt matter much if u setup a dedi and way to restart it

so it updates on cycling

[sudden creek]

im still getting the same

[slim spoke]

did u just update steamcmd?

[sudden creek]

yes

[slim spoke]

try agian

[sudden creek]

and I shut the server down

[slim spoke]

might do serer now

[slim spoke]

what cmd did u run

[slim spoke]

cmdline?

with the install info?

force dir .... login

app_update

[sudden creek]

based on your question, I think I missed a step

[bold plinth]

Better to just make a .bat file

[slim spoke]

the install command i keep saying to run

[sudden creek]

I have a start-server.bat

[slim spoke]

u just did steamcmd that installs the server now

with a long cmd line

[frigid saddle]

hey guys. vehicles are not refueling themselves at the station even tho there is fuel for them available. stil a bug? or i need to redo the station or something?

[slim spoke]

lots have that

[frigid saddle]

still 😦

[slim spoke]

again lol

[frigid saddle]

and the nodes also still not fixed?

[sudden creek]

This should be the line right?
steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer +app_update 173339 validate +quit

[slim spoke]

they made disappeared nodes return

yes

[frigid saddle]

i mean the set wait time on a node at a station

[slim spoke]

NO

[sudden creek]

'steamcmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

[slim spoke]

copy the cmd from the wiki

dont change teh id for teh server

[sudden creek]

ohh

[slim spoke]

put teh dir in to install to

[sudden creek]

i thought that was the game version

[slim spoke]

how would steam track every game thing by build number

[sudden creek]

might the issue be that I'm running it through epic games?

[bold plinth]

No

[slim spoke]

did u use cmd or powershell?

[sudden creek]

I use steamcmd here. I'm definitely logged into steam

[slim spoke]

i know what u can do

each thing that has a + .. is separate cmd to copy and paste

login anonymous

force_install_dir C:\GameServers\SatisfactoryServer

shit lol

[sudden creek]

C:\Users\woute\Documents\SteamCMD\steamapps\common\SatisfactoryDedicatedServer

this is my file path

[bold plinth]

https://gyazo.com/9f60b53f6e4bc25072f03b885beb20f4 this is what is in the photo
start "" "D:\steamcmd/steamcmd.exe" +login anonymous +force_install_dir "yourinstalldirectory" +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

[slim spoke]

whatever fix to ur stuff

just do the lines and it is like using the big one

from windows it passes the list of cmds .. in steamcmd it is pain

lol

[bold plinth]

I have 2 seperate bat files

[slim spoke]

he is tryin to run install cmd to update

[bold plinth]

one for update and one for the server

I know

[slim spoke]

7am and windows

[bold plinth]

what I posted is my update.bat

[slim spoke]

lol

[bold plinth]

for me I find it bad pratice to update then start the server in the same bat file as something could corrupt

[sudden creek]

ok so this is something new, good I hope?

wait

yourinstalldirectory

[slim spoke]

u didnt fix the cmd

[sudden creek]

lol

[bold plinth]

remove the yourinstall directory and replace that to wherever your server files are

[sudden creek]

check

god damnit 🙂

[whole prairie]

I have issues with the programmable splitter. It does not save my settings corretly. Does anyone have the same issues?

[sudden creek]

Yea i experienced the same. What worked for me is to save 1 (of 3) rows first, and then the 2nd, then the 3rd

all at once didn't work for me

[whole prairie]

Thanks for confirmation and I try your workaround.

[tame solar]

@sudden creek I'm not too knowledgeable in dedis, but looking at others who had the same issue, it can apparently mean that the server is still running because you launched it before updating, have you tried rebooting the machine yet?

[sudden creek]

I just did ondar! after doing this I rebooted the pc

[tame solar]

and it's still showing the older server version after the reboot

[sudden creek]

yep

it worked just fine 3wks ago

[tame solar]

are you actually launching the server from the install directory you specified in the command line?

[whole prairie]

@sudden creek It works as long as I do not delete any entry

[sudden creek]

i launch it here

[sudden creek]

ahh thanks for the further details!

[tame solar]

what are the contents of the bat file?

[sudden creek]

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended

[tame solar]

right

I'll leave it to those who know more about this than I do

[sudden creek]

Thanks for trying! 🙂

[slim spoke]

did u run those cmds like i said

or do what other guys said?

lol

[vapid dagger]

in the patch notes they said, that servers now use all cores? Why is my server only using one core? Server runs under debian 11 on a intel i7-7700k with HT enabled.

[prime gorge]

It does, but most of the time it just uses one core to its fullest

[vapid dagger]

oh okay, thx

[whole prairie]

It is the same behaviour in windows. One core is running at 100% at all others have spikes

[prime gorge]

Here's my server with currently only me. Once it get's close to 100% on one core the multithreading starts:

[trail radish]

LINUX:

After adding a satisfactory file into the /etc/ufw/applications.d/ directory, do I need to do anything else?

[shell cedar]

Anyone want to help and try connect to my server to see if works from public internet? Can allready join myself it trough LAN? My friends dont have the game (yet) IP is 185.69.36.47 default ports.

oh, well. I just might test it myself. Just use my mobile internet for client

[carmine sundial]

I was able to connect and load in to Grass Fields.

[shell cedar]

ooh nice. Thank you sir.

[brisk cloak]

Hey! When dedicated server comes to early access is there a way to migrate old experimental save to the early access server

[slim spoke]

put it in the install folder

or wherever they set

[brisk cloak]

okay so old experimental server save should work with new dedicated early access server

[slim spoke]

ya when they come out

[brisk cloak]

nice

[slim spoke]

they will be the same version til exp takes a new patch that ea doesnt get

[brisk cloak]

Okay, thank you

[slim spoke]

yw

[shell cedar]

Does it work other way? ie. If I put my single player save from early access to experimental dedi server?

Or dedicated server saves have to be started fresh=

[slim spoke]

yes u can do that

[shell cedar]

ok thanks, will look into it then

[slim spoke]

they are teh same game.. just exp gets newer patches and when its newer u cant go back to ea

[prime gorge]

You are not allowed to post public IPs here. That said ...

Ah, it worked before. Seems you've stopped the server.

[shell cedar]

Nope, still running

[prime gorge]

hmm

[prime gorge]

@shell cedar It works when I don't copy the space character :b
My bad mate, sorry

[timid veldt]

how do u join a deticated server??

[prime gorge]

I've wrote a QA ticket. Maybe some of you want to upvote it so it might be fixed until Tuesday (unlikely though IMHO)
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6198fc27831c85205235fe67

[prime gorge]

Go to Update 5 on Experimental branch or wait until its release on Tuesday > Click on Server Browser on the main menu > Click Add Server > Enter the IP > Click OK > Done

[finite mauve]

@prime gorge I'm new to the game and have spent the last day trying to figure out how you actually connect to the dedicated server i set up.... i never once thought i had to switch to experimental to get the server manager.... LMAO this comment saved my day thank you

[flint yew]

hi, is there a fix to connect to a dedicated server (docker using wolveix/satisfactory-server image) ?
I tried turning firewall off but I am still getting that message below, and one try out of 50, connection is established and I pop in the world and can play normally.

[prime gorge]

Your game port 7777/udp isn't opened or forwarded to the container as it seems

Make sure you've set all three ports to be sent to the docker container!

[rustic cypress]

so actually I dont understand why I can't connect via console and via the server manager

the server manager shows me the server is offline

[prime gorge]

Same as shinsentoh: Open the required ports on your firewall

[rustic cypress]

oh okay

[trail radish]

Hey, has anyone had any trouble with uploading existing save files to a server? I've just managed to get one working but when the save got uploaded it crashed, and now the server isnt ever viewable from within Satisfactory

[rustic cypress]

yeah I did that

I also deactivated my whole firewall just to test if it works

it was not working

[prime gorge]

Why do people always deactivate their firewall if somethings not working?

[rustic cypress]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[prime gorge]

What is your setup then?

[rustic cypress]

my server setup?

[prime gorge]

Ye

How do you try to connect to it, what is involved (eg firewall) and so on

[rustic cypress]

I try to connect via the ingame console (open IP:Port)

The Server is a 10gig Windows server with a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2695 v2 @ 2.40GHz (24 threads allocated)

App-Ports 20176,20177,20178,20179

I opened in&out (udp) for all of them

[prime gorge]

Where do you got the ports from? And why did you opened up the outgoing ports?

[rustic cypress]

my hosting provider told me them

and I opened them cuz I thought I'd need it

[prime gorge]

So, your machine has direct access to the internet? Or is it routed through some sort of vpn/firewalls/whatever else

[rustic cypress]

nope

only the basic datacenter firewall (ddos prot and so on)

[prime gorge]

Taking a look on the server wiki provides us with those ports: 15777/udp, 15000/udp, 777/udp
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Loading_a_save_file

Can you try and open them up?

[rustic cypress]

yup

only ingoing right?

[prime gorge]

Exactly

[rustic cypress]

yeah its now working

thanks

[prime gorge]

Modern firewalls are something which is called statefull. Which means that all answers to communication to the respective ports are allowed through the firewalls as well. Besides - the players aren't using the same ports as source. But this goes too deep into the TCP/IP stack

[rustic cypress]

sorry I'm kinda new to this crap and I thougt I had to open these ones

[prime gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/twist-m-night-shamalan-what-gif-6054790

[prime gorge]

Always make sure to check the documentation. In this case the Wiki page 😉
That should be rule number one for everything you want to setup

[rustic cypress]

yeah I did but was kinda confused

anyways, thanks a lot!

[prime gorge]

You are welcome, enjoy your game 🙂

[rustic cypress]

i'll

[dapper blaze]

Is there a mp bug with trains and "Docking" never ends?

[pseudo yew]

Yeah known issue pretty sure, way to fix is moving save to single player and canceling docking for stuck train before transferring back to server

[trail radish]

Stuck uploading a save once again, server seems to just be hanging on preparing a new game, and ping is going nutty. Any ideas?

[quick mist]

ufw allow satisfactory to enable the new rule.

TODO: This section needs to be completely rewritten to account for the savefile manager built into the game's Server Manager now. https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Loading_a_save_file

[carmine jay]

bah, valves aren't working

[hidden rock]

not working as in nothing flows at all?

[carmine jay]

as in not limiting the flow and resetting when relog from server.

trying to limit the water flow to my aluminium production so I can back feed water from the scrap machine but the valve just over fills the downstream pipes and stops production.

doesn't help when flushing a segment flushes the whole network now. :/

[hidden rock]

yea thats also in Sp, the flushing issue

dunno why it hasnt been fixed yet

[carmine jay]

I know it's experimental but still.

how do you lose functionality on a thing after it was working?

[hidden rock]

rewriting that thing for dedicated maybe

[carmine jay]

I can live with the valve bug if I can find another use for the water from the scrap machine.

[hidden rock]

coal generator

you already have coal being brought in for the scrap dont you

[carmine jay]

and then you have broken trains.

I do. I'm good on power for now though.

[hidden rock]

its not about power

its about getting rid of the water

[carmine jay]

true.

should have plenty of coal to "burn" 120m2 water.

got a full 270 line of coal coming in.

[quick mist]

another alternative: Package the water and sink it

[hidden rock]

terrible

waste of plastic

[quick mist]

not saying it was a fantastic alternative but it should be considered as an option

[carmine jay]

Then I need to bring in plastic via a bugged train. 🙃

[tame solar]

it not a good option, but is is an option

[hidden rock]

yea but theres easier ways than bringing in canisters via some means

[tame solar]

canister alts exist so you can sink steel ingots or iron plates+copper sheets instead

[quick mist]

seeing all these blue names reminds me that I need to get up the gumption to bother a mod to see about getting the Wiki role

[hidden rock]

the easiest thing is of course valves. or a VIP junction

[carmine jay]

What is a VIP junction?

[hidden rock]

would be interesting to see if these work on dedicated

[burnt blaze]

So question. I want to run another server on my network on a different machine. Looks like all the ports are able to be changed?

[carmine jay]

Welp, 3 coal gens clocked at 87% to consume 120m2 water works. Thanks for the idea.

Another server on another machine doesn't require port changes. That's only when you're sharing a single ip.

[burnt blaze]

But won't the existing ports be forwarded to the existing machine?

Same public IP. Both on my network

[white pier]

@burnt blaze This is what I'm trying to do too, but struggling to figure out what IP address to plug into the server manager

[carmine jay]

Oh, you're going over nat at that point. Idk if the game will connect to another port yet.

[burnt blaze]

Well, I'll experiment and get back.

I've done it for other games and the wiki has an example config file

[carmine jay]

@white pier the ip address will be the wan ip if connecting from the wan side.

[burnt blaze]

You already have a successful dedicated server running?

[white pier]

I wouldn't call it successful yet. Still working on verifying that it's up, but it seems to be.

wanip = the public ip? Like i would find form whatismyipaddress.com etc?

[burnt blaze]

whatismyip dot com to find you public IP

[white pier]

Yeah, that's what I thought. No dice, sadly 😦

[burnt blaze]

Did you forward the ports within your network equipment (prob your router)?

[vocal jungle]

you hosting it from your house

[white pier]

Yeah, just on a different machine.

[vocal jungle]

so what happen when you use the lan address ip for the machine

[white pier]

Yep, ports are forwarded

[white pier]

Nothing, just says server appears to be offline

[vocal jungle]

and your sure your using that macheins ip address

[tall oasis]

any easy way to rename my session (savefile) without downloading a save editor?

[tame solar]

nope

[tall oasis]

😐

[tame solar]

well SCIM works on the web

[tall oasis]

does it?

[tame solar]

yes

[tall oasis]

that would be perfect

[burnt blaze]

it's pretty painless

[tame solar]

upload your save there then change it in settings

[tall oasis]

I'm on linux, so I can't download the save editor

[tame solar]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[tall oasis]

so that would be perfect

[white pier]

yep, definitely.

[burnt blaze]

Were the ports forwarded UDP? Maybe take a screenshot of that section of the router config?

[vocal jungle]

is it a windows machien

[tall oasis]

since we are at the topic of save editors

I'm assuming I can't remove the mantas, right?

[vocal jungle]

that wouldnt matter for internal connection

[burnt blaze]

Whoops missed that part

[vocal jungle]

get internal to work then fix wan lol

[tame solar]

the mantas are hardcoded, a mod might be able to remove them though (once working on dedis)

[white pier]

like this?

[tall oasis]

would be very nice

[vocal jungle]

and 192.168.1.38 is you machines ip or the hosting machine

[burnt blaze]

assuming that IP address is pointed to the machine hosting the server, that looks right. but test internally before attempting external connections

[frosty gale]

who wants to join my dedicated server @ 83.247.71.132?

[burnt blaze]

#looking-for-group-old

[white pier]

its the hosting machine

[frosty gale]

ah thx

[tall oasis]

does the game resolve domains as ip addresses?

aka can my server's IP be satisfactory.mydomain.com?

[vocal jungle]

ok is the hosting machine windows or linux

[white pier]

windows

[burnt blaze]

Yes. I run my domain through no-ip.com

[tall oasis]

excellent

[vocal jungle]

did you open the windows defender firewall on the host

[white pier]

didn't think of that, but if i disabled windows firewall on host it still doesn't work

[vocal jungle]

thats not a good thing to do

[white pier]

oh, i didnt want to keep it off, but i just wanted to see if that was the issue

[vocal jungle]

just one the host open a powershell as admin and run

New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Allow Satisfactory default inbound ports" -Direction Inbound -Action Allow -EdgeTraversalPolicy Allow -Protocol UDP -LocalPort 15000,15777,7777

[burnt blaze]

can you open up a command prompt on the client and type "ping 192.168.1.38" without the quotes

[white pier]

it's timing out =/

[burnt blaze]

So there's a network problem here.

Are you sure they're on the same network?

[white pier]

Yep, one wifi and one ethernet but both same network

[burnt blaze]

can you ping the client machine from the host?

[white pier]

did that now, it accepted it

[white pier]

same timeout

I can see both connected in my router, though

[vocal jungle]

the host has a wifi and lan >?

[white pier]

host is on wifi right now, client is on lan (gonna move the host to ethernet once it's working but wanted them sidebyside while iwork on this issue)

[tall oasis]

does the server autosave by default?

[white pier]

err host is on ethernet*

fuck typing. host is on wifi, client is on thernet *

[burnt blaze]

Yes. Every five minutes

[tall oasis]

nice

thanks

[burnt blaze]

Is the wifi marked as a guest network? I'm running out of ideas. I would try ethernet on both next

[white pier]

nah, not on guest network

[pallid rivet]

Can you connect using your local IP address ?

[burnt blaze]

no and their pings are timing out

[white pier]

tried ethernet, still cant ping host or client fromeach other

[pallid rivet]

192.169.xxx.xxx ?

168*

[burnt blaze]

and both of their ips start with 192.168.1.x?

[white pier]

yea

[burnt blaze]

if you check the network properties within windows settings, are the networks marked as public or private?

[white pier]

public

[burnt blaze]

this is at your home? then change them to private and try pinging again.

[white pier]

ffs, how did that get set to public

ping works now, i am a fool

[burnt blaze]

It's default if you miss the new network found prompt

[white pier]

must have missed that when setting things up, just built a new rig last week

[burnt blaze]

It honestly is super easy to miss.

[frosty gale]

I gave it a shot to create a docker container for the dedicated server. any feedback?
gitlab.com/XenGi-containers/satisfactory/-/blob/main/Dockerfile

[white pier]

so client can now ping host, but host still times out when pinging client

[burnt blaze]

did you check the network properties on both machines?

I would try connecting internally now

[white pier]

yeah, both private now, i do get destination hot unreachable when i ping

[burnt blaze]

try connecting in game on your internal network

[white pier]

no luck, same server offline issue

[carmine jay]

yes, I use my server's hostname that's resolvable to it's lan ip via a local dns server.

[vocal jungle]

is the server running

[white pier]

yep, restarted it jsut now too

[vocal jungle]

look in you DM's

[stray summit]

anyone around?

i got a quick question

Can someone tell me how to start a server.

[burnt blaze]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[burnt blaze]

Let me know if you get it running. I'm curious

[stray summit]

Ive read that but i dont know where to get the actual files to run the server from

[gaunt gorge]

@stray summit if you read the docs that you were linked, you will see that it requires you use the SteamCMD or that you download it in the tools section of your steam library. While I have personally had a good experience with the dedicated server, it is experimental and does have occasional bugs.

[ornate osprey]

I'm trying to get a dedicated server up and running on an Ubuntu server system. Everything works if I start the server manually however when I try to follow the directions for getting it to run as a service I get the problem: Job for satisfactory.service failed because the control process exited with error code.

[icy nymph]

I have just started a brand new dedicated server looking for a few players who are about mid game competent (fluids etc)

[vocal jungle]

we are getting closer lol

[vocal jungle]

all fixed

[white pier]

managed to get it going

Tmo is a hero

[burnt blaze]

What was it?

[gaunt gorge]

@ornate osprey what Linux user did you install the server under?

[ornate osprey]

As in what folder is it located in? I put the install at /SatisfactoryDedicatedServer ... I know enough about Linux to be dangerous... I have a couple Ubuntu servers running Pi-Hole... but I don't do much inside of linux at all

I don't mind doing a screen share if you want to see anything on the system etc

[late coral]

ExecStart=/home/your_user/you_instal_Dir/FactoryServer.sh

it's not entery as in the manual

[ornate osprey]

so it's not supposed to be the .sh script?

[late coral]

it's supposed to be the .sh script, but it's one level lower, and in my case the directory names are different

tricky thing is the install dir could be different than the manual, and you need to get it right in like 4 different spots in the systemd file

[ornate osprey]

ok so... couple questions on that, 1) I didn't install as the user steam... I created a steam user but never set a password or anything so how does it work to make it run as the steam user? 2) I didn't want it tied into a specific home directory in case I give someone else remote access to do system restarts etc... so I put it all in just /SatisfactoryDedicatedServer

[late coral]

you sudo to "steam" to install the game

to get the service running, you just use the stream user (makes sense, unprivileged user)

$ whoami
admin
$ sudo -S -u otheruser whoami
otheruser

thats basicly the trick, best sudo to root first, and then impersonate the steam user with sudo -S -u

[ornate osprey]

hmmm... I see

maybe

[late coral]

it's a bit abstract

[ornate osprey]

when I run 'sudo -S -u steam' it errors out...

[late coral]

sudo -u steam bash

the steam user has no shell configured

[ornate osprey]

ok now I'm in as steam

[late coral]

now you can run steamcmd to install Satisfactory and install it in /home/steam/Satis...

[ornate osprey]

so it's best to run it via the home directory instead of a separate root directory?

because I had run the install and pointed it to /SatisfactoryDedicatedServer

[late coral]

that shouldn't matter

except, the steam user needs privileges to any directory and file outside /home/steam/

so for simplicity's sake, I also installed it as the steam user in it's home dir

[ornate osprey]

do you have a minute to hop on a voice call and do a screen share? I can't run steamcmd from the steam account

[late coral]

sure

I have some time

[ornate osprey]

Thanks for getting me squared away !!!!

[late coral]

Sure, no problem

[idle dirge]

dedicated server are ram hungry have seen it at 8gb one time 😆

[late coral]

pff amateur, i've had it use 9G with only one user 🤪

[idle dirge]

lol

good job i have have 48gb on that box then i may need it

[late coral]

should be fine with 16G for all but the most extreme cases

[carmine jay]

mine is at 4.1GB for one small factory and one user. XD

I guess the more objects you build, the more ram it needs.

[ornate osprey]

I just got mine up and running, had a buddy load in their save game and 4 users on while playing went to 7.5G I think.. not too bad... CPU usage was at 20% for the virtual machine... runs nicely

[quick mist]

it seems to start with a baseline of ~4GiB to establish the engine and game world

[ornate osprey]

only issue they've seen so far is some rubber banding when using the transport tubes

[vocal jungle]

use the FG.NetworkQuality 3 command in consloe should help with that

[ornate osprey]

cool!!

[carmine jay]

any way to permaset the network quality?

[vocal jungle]

not at the moment

its on there todo list

[carmine jay]

ah

[boreal wasp]

what do you guys think the ABSOLUTE max players on a server, software and hardware wise be with the current status of the servers?

[carmine jay]

I've noticed some rubberbanding from just a local server. pc and server connected to the same network switch.

well... Z1 Gaming had like 100 ppl on a server once. lag like mad though. dunno the server specs.

[boreal wasp]

im apart of that and with only 8 people its kinda lagy so maybe.... like 4?

[carmine jay]

I think 4 was a recommended number for the MP system before the dedi server came out.

[quick mist]

yes. just execute the command and next time you shut the server down gracefully it is stored to disk

[tribal cloak]

is the network traffic encrypted?

also, why would you use UDP instead of TCP?

[slim spoke]

devs explained it long ago on stream

its all about how it works

and i doubt its encrypted as thats a shitload of work for nothing

the eos stuff and such is protected

game play data isnt so important

[quick mist]

UDP is nearly always used for game servers because it's faster, and has a lower computational overhead.

[tribal cloak]

k

[alpine relic]

Docking station won't fuel trucks?

using coal

[slim spoke]

#satisfactory-experimental message

[alpine relic]

thx

[slim spoke]

yw

[dapper blaze]

anyone else having problems with trains not load/unload stuff? or its just me 😦

[slim spoke]

its known .might have to fix it in sp then load on server

or its just the placing of platform its not connecting and the light shouldnt come on at top end of it

showing it isnt powered

[dapper blaze]

theres a light on each load/unload station? 🤔

[slim spoke]

back to sp probably

[vale bobcat]

is that multithreading?

[slim spoke]

to much thinking to look .. should be its patched

[full vector]

(Nearly all) Game Servers will always rely on one key main thread that will often be the limiting factor, other threads are used to off-load some tasks, and how busy those are depends entirely on what exactly is going on in your save

Hence why some typical server processors with many cores, but slower ones, are not the best for game servers, and instead you want something more akin to a desktop processor if you want to optimize

Of course that doesn't mean it wont work, are you having performance issues? 🙂

[vale bobcat]

Since the last update it's ok, only the Trains looking awesome while driving 😉

[raven flame]

Do dedicated servers take stress off pcs?

[slim spoke]

off ur gaming pc yes

if u put it on another system

[full vector]

even running it on the same system can help, as it spreads the load between processes, making better use of processor resources - assuming you have some to spare

[slim spoke]

yes nev nailed it

[terse grotto]

Hey ! my server says it offline with one off my friends but it is online at my place

[slim spoke]

check ports

[terse grotto]

@slim spoke we been playing four 3 days and thios havent been an issue

[slim spoke]

ok

restart server

[terse grotto]

Tried that 2 :/

[slim spoke]

tell them to reboot

[terse grotto]

tried that too 🙂 can´t get my head around what it could bee

[slim spoke]

are u using lan ip or what?

[terse grotto]

DDNS name

[slim spoke]

double check something didnt change

[terse grotto]

Yes i will try thanks for now 😄

[slim spoke]

or maybe a port was open when server started up

if u did port forwarding then u can just add a few ports to a port like 7778-7780 to see

or server will say its using 7778 or a dif port for one of the others

[terse grotto]

Yea i changed form the begingn 7777 to 10000 and it has worked

[slim spoke]

server technically uses 7777-7827

so u can narrow that alot

it only goes up a port if it fails to open the port

[terse grotto]

you mean that i would use that in the config or in the router?

[slim spoke]

so 2 game servers could use just 2 ports

in that one set

ya port fowarding

u can give it small range so server has 2 or 3 ports for each of the 3

then if it fails it has a couple backups

server already will try next port if it fails

so u just have to allow it

[terse grotto]

Now ive put it like this:

[slim spoke]

now in router it might be different for urs so u should look at the port forwarding instructions if ur not sure

[slim spoke]

they can define how u set a range

[terse grotto]

asus router

[slim spoke]

look at manaul .. far as i know 7777-7780 should work

[terse grotto]

I have like this in my startup .bat file: FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended ?listen -Port=10000

[slim spoke]

my older asus was like that

and u put for both ports and type is UDP

[terse grotto]

Ye becouse i didnt get it to work otherwise

[slim spoke]

look in ur user thing

it will tell u how to set range

most use way i said

but not all

if urs works for u then roll with it ..

but repeat in next spot

[terse grotto]

But it didn´t now 😉

[slim spoke]

so its ranged also

ok put -

it should work right with that

[terse grotto]

When i try the game says the adress is not valid...-

[slim spoke]

i dont know what your doing

all i got was cropped image of some port info

all u were doing was adding -####

in 2 spots

that lets router let those ports through to server to see if ur port was used

[terse grotto]

I dont think iam with you.

[slim spoke]

that doesnt make anything invalid unless ur doing the range wrong

and thats why i said read the user manual

[terse grotto]

Did you mean the wiki?

[slim spoke]

no i mean the manual for router how to port forward

just remove the changes

restart the computer hosting it

try if not then something is using the ports most likely

change server ports to new ones

wiki should say how to set ports to new ones

[terse grotto]

i´ll try this and see if it works. On an other note i have disable the firewall on the "hosting" Pc

[brazen isle]

Hey, is there a way to get the dedicated server to automatically restart every few hours?

[vapid lichen]

Hi guys, is there a way to set up the autosave timer in dedicated? 5 min is to short imo

[brazen isle]

@vapid lichen

[slim spoke]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[vapid lichen]

oh thanks! is that setting new? 😄

[slim spoke]

fairly new

[brazen isle]

I don't think so

Well then again, dedicated servers are still pretty new

[slim spoke]

ya wiki constantly is geting more stuff like that added

[vapid lichen]

yep, its getting better very fast

[slim spoke]

people posting stuff for inis to tweak stuff

[plush iris]

is anyone having issues with trains in satis? i have a locomotive with 4 freight cars but only 2 of them are loading... tried to delete them and place them again, cut the power to my trains, rebooted the server btu still no success

[vapid lichen]

unload/deload settings correct?

[plush iris]

yes i even tried switching it do unload and load again

thought maybe that setting was bugged

but also no success 😦

[stuck drum]

quick question, if i install the dedicated server tool on my machine i play on, it won't bug out using the same steam account?

[slim spoke]

use steamcmd

server doesnt use steam acct

[stuck drum]

my machine is beefy enough, i was just wondering

[slim spoke]

it runs a server that checks u own the game to play on it

and u get admin

[stuck drum]

so the one installed via the steam client does conflict with me playing on that same account?

[slim spoke]

nope

[stuck drum]

so what's the diff between using that and steamCMD?

[slim spoke]

i would use steamcmd to install though some used thru library and did weird shit

wiki has instructions for steamcmd way

all the people helping used steamcmd pretty much

[stuck drum]

yeah i read all that, and know how to do it, i'm just wondering why bother if i'm gonna run it on the same PC, if i was using a diff PC as the server, sure i'd get CMD all set up

[slim spoke]

it will separate the work from the game for u

so game will run a little better but dont get excited

cuase its still on the same computer

also u can set up the server as service so it can update and restart on its own or by triggering it

[random ledge]

Good day everyone, got the server running on a separate dedicated machine, visible in game, claimed the server, I can join, but how do others join as when they add the server, they are asked for admin password...

[late coral]

There's 2 passwords, one for server admin, and one (optional) for regular users

[random ledge]

ah, maybe that got cleared in the process - I will reset the passwords...I'll be back (said arnie 😉 )

[vapid lichen]

n00bquestion: of i set up those into the console, is it permament saved? (restart server etc)

[slim spoke]

passwords are saved in encrypted file

wiki has the info about resetting the admin pass

dedicated server page

[brazen isle]

@vapid lichen I'm not actually sure. I would say it's likely that it would stay with that setting until the server is restarted since it's a console input

[late coral]

That would be my guess too

Effective until restart

[brazen isle]

Unless there's something you could put in the .bat file to enable it?

[late coral]

It's a config file option, consult the Wiki

Not at a computer right now, but could also be permanently configurable in the server management in client

[slim spoke]

run on server then gracefully EXIT .. it will write out the inis

[raven flame]

But running it on an online host is better?

[slim spoke]

or another computer

[timid slate]

Servers are so laggy since the last two patches 😦

[slim spoke]

shouldnt be

have u restarted it since

[lyric dove]

Anyone has an issue with epic? I get disconnected from my dedicated server while on epic and server shows offline, while my friend on steam does not have that problem. Should I just rebuy game on steam?

[slim spoke]

no dont rebuy it

[lyric dove]

I mean, epic launcher now lags horribly and I get disconnected from server because of that

[tame solar]

the game is identical on both platforms

[lyric dove]

But does game connects directly to dedi server without using any steam/epic services

[timid slate]

The server restarts every 24 hours

[slim spoke]

restart or the auto thing

[timid slate]

idk, depends on what G-Portal does

[lyric dove]

Server manager shows my server offline, while my friend on steam plays without an issue...

[slim spoke]

its your computer/net/defender/av/firewalls/something

[lyric dove]

How can you make one of the best game engines and have such a terrible client at the same time

[lyric dove]

No, its not, was playing for 6 hours without an issue

[slim spoke]

something is stopping u right now

[lyric dove]

Yeah, epic

[slim spoke]

reboot then .. or log it out and log in then start game

[lyric dove]

Done all that

[slim spoke]

then something is wrong

its not launcher

[lyric dove]

you dont say

[slim spoke]

probably is windows

[lyric dove]

How?

[slim spoke]

ill accept u think im wrong .. good luck 🙂

[timid slate]

O.o

[lyric dove]

Sure, keep spitting random nonsence without any base or arguments...

[slim spoke]

no im not going to argue to help

hahahaha

if im wrong fine im out

[lyric dove]

You cant help

[slim spoke]

have a good day/night

[lyric dove]

Anyone knows if game client connects using epic online services or does it connect directly to dedicated server?

[timid slate]

It connects directly

[slim spoke]

eos is used on steam and epic clients

[lyric dove]

Well, its starts working after restarting epic client several times, so it is to do something with epic

[slim spoke]

before dedis.. eos went down and all the clients on both platforms couldnt play mp cause thats how the game verifies you own the game.

[toxic sentinel]

Small question , if we own Satifactory on Epic we can't run a dedicated server ? Do we have to buy it on steam ?

[slim spoke]

no

pinned messages has a link to wiki page

use steamcmd to install dedicated server

[toxic sentinel]

I was on the wiki and mis-interpreted this bit : Game clients from both the Epic and Steam game stores can connect and play on dedicated servers installed via Steam/SteamCMD

[slim spoke]

ya the wording is bad about the library version

but they wont leave us epic peeps in the wind

[carmine jay]

bah, my desktop can't connect to my server anymore. 😦 udp port 15777 is open though. :/

[slim spoke]

reboot modem router comp

keep trying it to connect.. it can take a few tries to behave

[carmine jay]

modem and router aren't involved. server is local. connecting by ip and hostname isn't working. readding the server to the client didn't work. restarting the game and steam didn't work.

[slim spoke]

is it same comp as u

[carmine jay]

no

[slim spoke]

lan ip should work fine then

[carmine jay]

but they're connected to the same switch.

[slim spoke]

on server defender and av/firewalls matter

[carmine jay]

yeah, you'd think so. it was working last night. I changed nothing beyond just shutting down my pc at night.

[slim spoke]

client nothing should be issue other then defender or something else

if nothing changed hten it could be simply just retrying a bunch

[carmine jay]

I have no AV. and I don't have any firewalls active on these boxes afaik.

[slim spoke]

check the server

could be ports were used

[carmine jay]

well, desktop has ufw enabled but that's just for inbound. no blocks on outbound. server doesn't have one. a nmap scan of port 15777 shows to be open on the server from the client pc.

netstat on the server shows 3 udp ports open for unrealengine4.

I've already restarted the server process once.

LogMemory: Virtual Memory: 134200592.00 MB used, 17132.95 MB free, 134217728.00 MB total
found a log and found this... hmm... 🤔 🤣

but nothing relating to dedi server. :/

[cinder wind]

I keep getting disconnected from my server, I disabled UFW and can use the server manager to make changes, but once I start playing I get disconnected after 30 seconds.

[gloomy raven]

How can the second player join to the server?

[scarlet rose]

You give them the ip of it

[carmine jay]

welp, a reboot of the client pc fixed the connection issue. wish I knew why so I wouldn't have to reboot. XD

[gloomy raven]

i have "server computer" i'm on the server and my friend how can join?

[scarlet rose]

don't dm me the ip

send it to your friend

[gloomy raven]

ohh

[gloomy raven]

i sent he and how can he join?

[scarlet rose]

using the server manager

[gloomy raven]

and?

[scarlet rose]

using the ui to add the server?

[gloomy raven]

yes i added !

[gloomy raven]

what is ui?

[scarlet rose]

user interface

buttons

text

[gloomy raven]

ohh

and he add also the server?

[gloomy raven]

??

[scarlet rose]

just tell him to click on the server manager and look at the bottom to add the server

[gloomy raven]

the server is writing "The server is offline"

[scarlet rose]

then it is offline

You have to give him your public ip address (WHICH YOU SHOULD ONLY GIVE TO YOUR TRUSTED FRIENDS)

[gloomy raven]

no because i'm playing on!

[gloomy raven]

hmmm?

[carmine jay]

also gotta forward ports if running the server on a LAN.

then this friend has to use your WAN IP and not the local LAN ip of said server.

[quick mist]

start working through these troubleshooting steps, one by one: https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Configuration_issues

[quick mist]

thanks for that feedback, I can see how that can be conextually misconstrued and shall reword if it has not already been.

[alpine skiff]

Hey all! I just updated my steam cmd as well as the dedi server and after logging in I noticed I signed in almost as if it's under a new client and don't have any of the things that I unlocked in the awesome shop.

Does anyone know if there's a fix so that I can use those buildings that I unlocked through my original client?

[clear birch]

guys, are tractors working for you?

[quick mist]

that sounds almost like you installed a new server to a new location

[clear birch]

for me, they wont load fuel

[quick mist]

Tractors, trucks, and explorers (and trains!) all working fine on my server

[clear birch]

i had no problems until the last patch

but this is the first time using them so maybe i did something wrong?

[quick mist]

There is a bug whereby if a vehicle runs totally out or fuel just as it arrives to a station, it will not refuel.. try "jumpstarting" 'em with a full load of fuel?

[clear birch]

ah ok, ill try that

will they take the full available fuel in the truckstation?

and another one, i got it correct that only one truckstation needs fuel now, right?

[clear birch]

sadly it isnt working

maybe i just need to do some more belts

[carmine jay]

my trains suddenly started transporting items properly. haven't tried fluids.

[molten tartan]

are servers running your world even when no player is connected?

[warped wharf]

that is toggleable

[molten tartan]

ah nice. thanks

[quick mist]

|| ( do people just.. not read the Server Settings screen? ) ||

[carmine jay]

|| I don't think they even read the wiki ||

[warped wharf]

it be like how do i setup a dedicated server

[quick mist]

how did you restart the server?

[alpine skiff]

My dedi seems to be loading the wrong save file, even after I tell it to load the correct one. Has anyone else been experiencing this?

I was okay with just using that save file, but then when I restarted the server it reverted back to the original autosave that it was using, so the saves from today aren't loading now

[acoustic python]

server has been restarted but boulders (explodable ones) keep reappearing after destroying with nobelisks. I can't set up a truck route 😦

not without faffing around with building a road around it anyway

some kind of desync issue - does anyone know if it is reported yet?

[quick mist]

not that I'm aware of.. but trucks if they get stuck should be able to just phaze through to the next route node if they get stymied too long

[acoustic python]

if the player is out of range, yeah

but i literally can't drive the truck through them

so can't set the r oute

[quick mist]

(range has nothing to do with it.. once the route is recorded you can stand there and watch trucks teleport.. not that it helps when you can't record the route..)

I have not seen blown-up boulders return but I have seen killed critters come back a few times

[acoustic python]

oh yeah they changed that i think didn't they, recently

certain boulders seem to be returning a lot for me

and the server has updated and thus restarted multiple times since

they appear for the client, but i can walk through them

but can't drive through them as a truck

another kind of desync bug i think

i wouldn't call this a shambles, this is the only major bug i've experienced so far, and this bug is a server thing

it has been delightfully stable

and playable

(more so for me from what i hear though ,cos i started a new world)

anyway, they haven't pushed it to stable yet so.. 😄

not sure what you mean

i would thikn this main update will be ready for stable branch in like 2-3 weeks? wild guess of course

oh, they announced that?

[carmine jay]

likes that we can manage our local and remote saves from within the game.

hmm, apparently loading another save in the server save manager breaks the server...

[carmine jay]

maybe it was the save...

[quick mist]

define 'breaks the server'

[sweet hemlock]

any one having an issue with multi car ttains not unloading

in dedicated seves

single car trains seem to unload eally well

[warm path]

Are tier unlocks per server or per player on a server?

[loud sandal]

tier unlocks per server

[warm path]

Do you know if there are future plans to make it per player? I want to play more than others on a server without impacting their trajectory.

[loud sandal]

I don't know, probably not

More people are having trouble with this (ITEMS OR FLUIDS NOT LOADABLE/UNLOADABLE BY TRAINS) so please upvote if this has happened to you too 🙂https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/619abee4831c852052360516

[glad hearth]

Having issues with ours also, cant seem to get all the freight cars to load / unload. Almost feels like the server hit a max of active freight cars or something

[vague herald]

What am i suppose to enter here?

Im renting a server and I have tried putting the password in but nothing happens

[feral dawn]

u "should" have been told to provide a password when the server was first added to your server manager

same time u named it

[vague herald]

ahh

Thank you!

That solved it

[feral dawn]

❤️

[plush iris]

i was able to fix it...

i pulled the save game from the dedicated server, launched it in single player, rebuilt all my trains and stations

when they were all working in single player, copied the savegame back to the dedicated server and it works like a charm now

[loud sandal]

More people have loading and unloading problems, see my post above you
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/619abee4831c852052360516
and I just found this post from earlier
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6182c1b2831c852052359941

[loud sandal]

I also tried to load a save in singleplayer, but the bug was transferred and it didn't help me

[glad hearth]

Oh nice thanks for that

[carmine jay]

I can't seem to get my forestry save to work in the dedi server but my dunes save and a couple others I created in different regions do.

[glad hearth]

Ha, I was wondering about that. Good to know as a backup if I cant get the other ways posted

[carmine jay]

loaded the forestry save up in SP and played lumberjack for an hour and the save still doesn't load on the server. thought it had to do with versions or something. :/

[feral dawn]

do u get any errors or anything?

[carmine jay]

just this when it finally gets done loading.

[feral dawn]

how big is the save file?

[carmine jay]

1.4MiB

[feral dawn]

oh not big at all then hmm

and u say if u upload a different save, it works as intended?

[carmine jay]

yes

it's got like 72 hours on it.

[feral dawn]

maybe one for http://questions.satisfactorygame.com

[carmine jay]

maybe

[cinder wind]

I've been having the same issue for a couple of weeks

[carmine jay]

Idk what about that save it doesn't like. The logs don't make sense to me either. :/

It does have a vehicle station near my base for fueling my explorer and tractor. My other saved don't have that station.

[cinder wind]

Mine was working fine had about 100 hours then after an update last week I started getting the same message.

It's a network message so I doubt it has anything to do with a save file.

[carmine jay]

What what would be causing it to take that long to load?

[cinder wind]

Not sure, mine loads and starts but 30 seconds in it crashes and I get that same error message you got

[carmine jay]

I just figure something must be hanging it up.

[glad hearth]

@plush iris Well did the same thing, loaded the save in SP & fixed the trains and now MP is good to go. Thanks for calling out that work around for now

[plush iris]

so yeah my idea is, as long as they don't make a fix, just pull your savegame when you gonna build/edit trains and upload your savegame again when done

[glad hearth]

yeah kinda what im thinking also, can work around it in the mean time

[plush iris]

yeah and if it's too much to do on your own, just share your local session

nice thing about dedicated servers is that you can set them up so they keep running when you're offline

which is the main reason i play on dedicated

[carmine jay]

Building stuff to let them fill boxes while away is nice.

[plush iris]

yeah, in the past i had to leave my pc running at night so we would be able to built stuff the day after :p not an issue anymore

just fixed a bottleneck in my sorting system... but still has to process some stuff that has backed up...

dedicated server? just log off and wait a day :p

[nimble ibex]

is there a way to change how often the game saves on a dedicated server

[quick mist]

I slap a power switch on my further satellite factories. "oh wow my Ikea-sorter is clogged up with Qz crystals and Silica? Guess I'll shut that off for a while to let the lines clear out"

[quick mist]

I believe so; diirections are on the Wiki if so. I know you can adjust the number of autosaves.

yep, just confirmed, it's there

[carmine jay]

I like how the auto saves aren't quite as noticable.

[quick mist]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Console_commands

[nimble ibex]

Oh the configuration file wiki . My saves are taking 10-12 seconds on an SSD now. 9MB files. The lag caused by that are just too long

thankyou

[carmine jay]

Wonder what could help speed up the autosave pauses... More CPU? Faster disk? The save isn't big so it doesn't take much.

[sturdy owl]

Hello, I've followed the guide on the wiki but haveing trouble getting the server to boot. It's not generating a serversettings.ini and the only thing in my /Saved/Config is a CrashReportClient folder. I checked the FAQ at the bottom of the wiki page and couldnt see anything related to my issue. Does anyone have an idea what it could be?

The actual exe boots the server window and it looks like the server should be booting, but there's no configs.

[modern beacon]

Did you connect to the server and Claim it? the dedicated server doesn't start a game till you claim the server.

[sturdy owl]

Ah okay, I'll check now

[granite acorn]

I noticed when trying to join a MP session via the Epic Games copy I need a Session ID. Is that somewhere in the Satisfactory Dedicated Server log file?

[sturdy owl]

I think there was a networking issue to, but this really helped thank you.

[quick mist]

no you do not need a Session ID. You need to be using the Experimental branch of the game, and add the server you want to connect to in the Server Manager

[granite acorn]

Ah okay, thanks for the tip! I'll keep working on the setup.

[quick mist]

good luck!

[granite acorn]

Do you happen to know if they talk about the "Sessions" capability anywhere in their documentation? I assume it's related to Saves but I don't see it spelled out anywhere so hoping to better understand that

[slim spoke]

depends what its about

[summer ravine]

so did they change where the Server Save files get saved? They used to save to a folder called server under the SaveGames folder, but now its saving where my Standalone files are

i looked at the Wiki and didn't see anything about it

[slim spoke]

saves are in the same places

[knotty timber]

Anyone noticed any improvement over multiple threads? I'm still seeing just one instance of FactoryGame @ 100% on the latest dedicated server

[slim spoke]

it mainly uses 1 but expands as it needs its normal

most of the work is serial

[knotty timber]

ok ta

[sharp geode]

Hey guys, anyone else notice after the most recent update, the server no longer uses multiple cores efficiently.
It has led me to believe this is the cause of micro stutters and lag spikes every few minutes

[slim spoke]

bug site is good place to check

[quick mist]

The server does indeed use multiple cores. When it needs them

[sharp geode]

Ah! Thanks

[carmine jay]

I've noticed that mine will have like 1 main thread at 35% while the rest are practically zero.

[sharp geode]

What about lag spikes every few minutes?

[quick oxide]

is there any public servers ?

[slim spoke]

#looking-for-group-old

[wraith pebble]

that is called autosaving I think 🙂

[sly summit]

[2021.11.22-09.25.21:078][  1]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSP2P: NAT Detection failed, unable to resolve host
[2021.11.22-09.25.22:323][ 38]LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSAnalytics: EOS SDK Analytics disabled for route [1].```

[slim spoke]

those are just warnings

[sly summit]

oh ok

[frigid saddle]

he guys. is there a command to restart the server from Console?

[slim spoke]

that would be why you set up a service / restarter

[frigid saddle]

i am running docker. i just saw the quit command from the wiki

[slim spoke]

you can exit in console to nicely close server so it writes changes to inis

[frigid saddle]

and then docker restarts it automaticly.

[slim spoke]

ya should work

[frigid saddle]

just tested. and works like a charm. thx tho

[slim spoke]

have fun

[valid geyser]

I started a new server and have some local UI-scale Problems

[hushed gate]

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports at https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/ - <3 @slim spoke

Nov 22, 2021, 1:17 PM

[valid geyser]

ok, found it already https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6198c3ee831c85205235fc7c

[terse lava]

Good Morning Guys, I have a question: Are the Dedicated Servers hosted by Satisfactory or do I need to host them myself?

[low pivot]

you need to host yourself or find someone who is already

are trains still bugged on servers?

[rose valley]

There will be a third multithreading update. We found some places where multithreading was forced to be disabled if running a dedicated server, hard coded into the engine. One of the upcoming builds will have the fix.

[valid geyser]

running 1 Satisfactory and 8x ARK 😉

[low pivot]

anyone know why this happens ? I drove the track loop the whole way twice without problems but the self driving wont go

[raw cove]

So a friend of mine plays in my server while i am offline he gets kicked out every 10 minutes and while im in the game it runs fine. Anyone know what could be happening?

[long sable]

I've had this issue a few times, sometimes deconstructing and reconstructing helps, but sometimes a turn signal is missing or a piece of rail is not attached. For some reason if the rail network changes while trains are already built, those trains seem to be unable to recognize some of the things changed in the rail network.

[prime gorge]

Do we already know how the servers are being switched from experimental to early access? Or do we need to switch into explicitly into experimental after todays update?

[low pivot]

yeah tnx bud, I got it. Had to replace the train station it couldn't make it to and it worked fine after that

[sleek pond]

My Train has also a nice bug.

[long sable]

From what I remember, dedicated servers will stay on experimental

[low pivot]

lol

[slim spoke]

there will be ea and exp dedis

[prime gorge]

Question is remaining: How do we switch between them?

[slim spoke]

well first the devs make it all then tell us about it

[prime gorge]

So we do not know it yet, thanks!

[slim spoke]

right now they havent given new steamcmd id or nothing

[prime gorge]

My personal bet would be a dl paramter.

[quick mist]

Given that the game client branches are identified with e. g. -beta experimental or omitting that in SteamCMD, I imagine dedicated servers will work similarly

[prime gorge]

-beta experimental or something. Arma works that way

[slim spoke]

the devs update us by posting vids in #announcements

[quick mist]

(i. e. we'll have to add that if we want to stay on experimental, or leave it to 'promote' the server to early-access)

however they may beat their own path and just have a new appID for the early-access dedicated server. the only ways to know are to wait and find out, get a job at CSS, or successfully bribe someone who already does

[slim spoke]

steamcmd will just be change app id

[prime gorge]

Or just ask #dedicated-servers and hope for the best 🙃

[quick mist]

TTANTS, partial list:

• knowing
• hypothesizing
• theorizing
• guessing

[prime gorge]

What does TTANTS mean?

[quick mist]

Things That Are Not The Same

[slim spoke]

only way to share dedis with everyone is steamcmd til steam/epic get fixed up ... and for that they just setup another dedi app for ea/exp, which gets them a new id for the install cmd ... and they can keep going while they fix other ways to get the dedi servers

[quick mist]

try to keep up, @slim spoke. A new app ID for the other branch would not be the usual way to do this, hence all the questions and theorycrafting

[slim spoke]

lol so it will be c&p to setup server on other version

well thats how steamcmd tracks the files

[quick mist]

or it'll be "for experimental servers, add -beta experimenal to the command."

because that's how it's usually done, not with a totally separate app ID

[slim spoke]

and just changing the id and using general cmds u could dl other tools/servers

[quick mist]

again: the only (practical) way to know is to wait and find out

[slim spoke]

if they are on anon setting

[prime gorge]

When I explicity ask if we already know something, then I ask for knowing. Not hypothesizing, not theorizing and certainly not guessing.

[quick mist]

Which is why I am trying to make it as clear as I can that asking in this channel, right now, is not a way to know the answer to that question

[main void]

Multi track driving cue eurobeat music

[quick mist]

Anyone else kind of sad that, while trains can be configured to load and offload specific things at specific stations (via that train's time table's station settings), you cannot use the same station for loading and unloading at all ever without manually switching it back and forth?

(yes I know that's a general question and not a DS thing specifically)

[slim spoke]

no cause u need to double the ports then

and its still is easier and faster to dedicate in or out

and just run thru 2nd station

[quick mist]

thoughts:

• there are already two in/out ports each
• I thought it'd be cool to have one train deliver (say) coal to a way station, and another bring it to the refinery, drop off the coal, pick up the steel, and deliver that to a third station. Can't do that without at least four stations rather than three presently (unless the stations are expanded to handle multiple freight cars)

[slim spoke]

im not sure how all the new works so im guessing at part of it

or just having car or 2 for stuff u drop off diff places along the way and addin platform where u need it

easier for me to keep track of what im doing with the things like that

[prime gorge]

Jesus ... why so toxic? A simple no does the trick and is an absolute valid answer! What has this channel just become? Way, way, WAY nicer 2 weeks back than this 😦

[quick mist]

I apologize if I came across as toxic, patronizing, or hostile.

[opal vapor]

boyz, I rent a server yesterday, and I am experiencing limited 4 slots. my host said they made a chance

anyone could join my server to help me out to check ？

all my friends went to bed now

[quick mist]

you might have better luck in #looking-for-group-old. I'd test but am not able to right now. if you still need a test in about eight hours, poke me (:

[opal vapor]

kk

[stray kayak]

Hello! new here and gratefull of dedicated server! But any1 else noticed that belts and storage boxes not flowing correctly? havent found any info about it. But for example Concrete it takes some "time" for it to enter the storage box and and "conjunctions" the concrete pauses a bit begore its going forward.

[quick mist]

There is a known visual glitch at conveyor "seams", but overall it generally does not seem to be affecting actual flow of items on the belts. In the odd case where it is; it can sometimes be fixed by replacing the belt.

[stray kayak]

Ah. But when checking in the storage box i can se the "delay" from disipering item from belt into storage.

[burnt blaze]

I've never seen DopeGhoti be toxic at all.

And they've helped so many people and answered the same questions over and over, haha

[slim spoke]

nope he just chats

[quick mist]

It's fine; I am aware that my zeal for specificity can come across as argumentative from time to time.

[slim spoke]

ya i get misunderstood alot also

[burnt blaze]

Yup. Actually the kind of patience only an experienced IT person has. With people coming in and asking "HoW dO i SeRvEr?" without so much as glancing at the wiki, he is still cool and helpful. Some people just see blunt answers as rude and would rather have all the niceties of a customer service representative.

[slim spoke]

i call it combat chat lol just forget what was said in heat and carry on

[burnt blaze]

As a sysadmin who deals with users a lot, I have two modes. The super freindly customer service representative, and my normal self who doesn't mind helping users with their issues.

[quick mist]

As a sysadmin to has gotten to the point where I no longer get paid to deal with end-users, I am happy to be able to lend a hand where I am able, and delighted to be able to stop doing so at will and whim (:

[burnt blaze]

Living the dream

[quick mist]

Sort of: when you get to this point, you eventually realize you haven't gotten away from end-users entirely; it's just that middle-managers are the new end-users.. and they only speak Excel. :shudder:

[burnt blaze]

Well, I'm self employed. Manage around 20 organizations. Users everyday. Excel, I am not experienced with though, haha.

[quick mist]

Count yourself lucky: the only thing Excel does well is be the opposite of what its name implies.

[burnt blaze]

hahaha. I tell users "I can set it up. But you're the expert in your data."

[compact widget]

i want to join a server but i dont know any servers i can jhoin

[burnt blaze]

#looking-for-group-old

[nova cliff]

So I know bugs are supposed to be posted to the QA site, but perchance are "Known Issues" being held somewhere like the wiki for quick reference?

[slim spoke]

no

[opaque spoke]

so uh, is this a typo or a meme?

[wise sparrow]

ture

lmao

Flase

[opaque spoke]

or is a thing to get around using true/false because they are reserved words?

[rich void]

CoffeeAddedInBloodStream = Flase; ConsumeCoffee = ture; CoffeeAddedInBloodStream = true; 😛

[raven flame]

Hi!
just to confirm, tomorrow ill need a different server repo for EA?

[full vector]

it'll probably use the beta functionality steam already offers, but thats just a guess

you'll have to decide on which build you want to use in some fashion, anyway

[north dragon]

i tried tomake the server on my own pc but it doesnt works, any idea?

[quick mist]

It is currently not known whether it will be a -beta switch (steamcmd), Beta selection (Steam client), or entirely new app ID for the new server once they are available for both EA and Exp

[quick mist]

that error and its solution are documented on the wiki

[raven flame]

kk

[north dragon]

can not connect to server

[tall oasis]

so I set up a systemd service but it fails to start

let me send in the error & service file

starting the server manually as user sfserver works perfectly fine with the exact line as seen in ExecStart

[quick mist]

what do the systemd logs show for that unit?

systemctl status satisfactory.service should show the last few log entries before it threw the error and died

[steel osprey]

add force install dir before login

latest steam update throws an error

[quick mist]

it's a warning, not an error, and it still works fine in that order

that is not the problem

[steel osprey]

you dont see it with that posted above

[tall oasis]

funny you should ask, because I checked that

let me post output

[quick mist]

please do

[tall oasis]

     Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/satisfactory.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
     Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2021-11-22 17:20:47 UTC; 11min ago
    Process: 4579 ExecStartPre=/usr/games/steamcmd/steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir /home/sfserver/server +app_upd>

Nov 22 17:20:47 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: satisfactory.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5.
Nov 22 17:20:47 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: Stopped Satisfactory dedicated server.
Nov 22 17:20:47 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: satisfactory.service: Start request repeated too quickly.
Nov 22 17:20:47 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: satisfactory.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Nov 22 17:20:47 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: Failed to start Satisfactory dedicated server.

oh it cut off the steam command part

but it's all there

I'm just dumb

[quick mist]

hmm

[tall oasis]

Process: 4579 ExecStartPre=/usr/games/steamcmd/steamcmd.sh +login anonymous +force_install_dir /home/sfserver/server +app_update 1690800 validate +quit (code=exited, status=203/EXEC)

this is that line

so it has an issue with the steam update thing

it seems

also Dyno wants to murder me, please help

[quick mist]

Dyno's like that, don't get too worried

[tall oasis]

lol

I'll try swapping the install dir thing around, but it should just be a warning

[quick mist]

just as a quick check, are you actually calling a shell script steamcmd.sh in the pre-start directive?

I do not have that in the unit file on my system and it's working normally

[tall oasis]

this is literally what is on the wiki right now 😄

I shamelessly copypasted it

buuut

[quick mist]

someone put in a .sh that should not be there:

[tall oasis]

huh

well that is good to know

and actually makes sense to not have sh there

I just glossed over it

[hoary osprey]

Il y aurait des français pour faire une partie à plusieurs ?

[quick mist]

I will correct the wiki, thanks for pointing out the error

[tall oasis]

same error

even without sh

[tall oasis]

👍

[steel osprey]

is steamcmd.sh not only for first install?

[tall oasis]

     Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/satisfactory.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
     Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2021-11-22 17:36:09 UTC; 7s ago
    Process: 9473 ExecStartPre=/usr/games/steamcmd/steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir /home/sfserver/server +app_update 1690800 validate +quit (code=exited, status=203/EXEC)

Nov 22 17:36:09 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: satisfactory.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5.
Nov 22 17:36:09 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: Stopped Satisfactory dedicated server.
Nov 22 17:36:09 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: satisfactory.service: Start request repeated too quickly.
Nov 22 17:36:09 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: satisfactory.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Nov 22 17:36:09 ffc-lin-gam-001 systemd[1]: Failed to start Satisfactory dedicated server.

[quick mist]

let me share my entire unit file so that you can compare

[tall oasis]

👍

[quick mist]

[Unit]
Description=Satisfactory Server
Wants=network.target
After=syslog.target network.target nss-lookup.target network-online.target

[Service]
Environment="LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./linux64"
ExecStartPre=/usr/games/steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir /home/ghoti/Satisfactory +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
# ExecStart=/home/ghoti/Satisfactory/FactoryServer.sh -multihome=x.x.x.x
ExecStart=/home/ghoti/Satisfactory/FactoryServer.sh
User=ghoti
Group=ghoti
Restart=on-failure
RestartSec=10
KillSignal=SIGINT
WorkingDirectory=/home/ghoti/Satisfactory

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

[tall oasis]

oh Discord has service syntax highlighting?

that's neat

[quick mist]

it's a .ini file, so you just have to use ```ini

[tall oasis]

right

yours has network.target instead of network-online.target

but highly doubt that makes a difference

[quick mist]

can you share the output of command -v steamcmd please?

[tall oasis]

same as yours

/usr/games/steamcmd

[quick mist]

Hrm.

try this:

run journalctl -f -u satisfactory.service, and then, in another terminal, try to start the unit

[steel osprey]

Not really; network-online.target checks, that the network is online

[tall oasis]

yeah lol

[quick mist]

that should give a better look at the output that's being trown at the time it dies

(yeah, I have network.target because I only care if the interface is up; I don't care if the internet connection works; if that's down I have other fish to fry than troubleshooting the game server)

[tall oasis]

hold on I need to get tmux lmao

[tall oasis]

or not

it just spams the same stuff

wait

why does it want /usr/games/steamcmd/steamcmd

[steel osprey]

you try to start a dir only

[tall oasis]

that is cursed

oh yeah

loool

[steel osprey]

it's not a directory

[quick mist]

that would indeed potentially be a problem

I thought you already compared our unit files? (:

[tall oasis]

fixed it

[quick mist]

fantastic (:

[tall oasis]

yes but I am dumb

c:

[quick mist]

I've done worse

[tall oasis]

thank you

speaking of which

[quick mist]

(once long long ago, before the days of syntax highlighting, I spend days debugging a program that would not compile. It turns out that in Pascal there is in point of fact not a reserved word prodecure.)

[tall oasis]

the wiki did not make it easy for me