dedicated-servers

[proud dagger]

so here is one, it shouldve been using 15005 on this one, but was instead using 15000 by default

[rose valley]

And was port 15000 bound by another instance when you launched the server?

[proud dagger]

yea

so once i figured that out my autodeploy just increments automatically via cli

[rose valley]

But that makes no sense! It means the OS lets us bind the same port from different processes and that sounds crazy!

[proud dagger]

youre under the assumption windows works without some direction 😉

[rose valley]

Can anyone else confirm this behavior?

[proud dagger]

i was able to confirm this on 3 seperate boxes

all with standard installations

[rose valley]

I will test this on my end again but I'm still interested in other people's experiences.

[proud dagger]

if you want i can give you a vm to test on temporarily

but im positive its not my environment

wait @slender idol you had this too right?

with the steamdriver

[trail lichen]

hm... I have to switch ports/local IP in my router if I want others to access another machine on my network. - for me local I can just switch between different machines as I like.

not sure if that does anything to the port topic.

[rose valley]

Wait a minute. Was the other instance running on another VM?

[proud dagger]

check your logs to see if its binding to the same port then

no

we run on bare metal for the most part

[slender idol]

So here's something fun for you. The beacon port doesn't seem to bind for my environment at all. Still works though. Figure that one out 😂

Personally I haven't got a Windows build, saving that for a learning opportunity internally, but yeah. No bind, no problem.

Hell I had my last installed instance not even bind in the log 😂

[rocky sentinel]

I haven't had any problems with ports binding given the right command line switches, once those got sorted, it's been binding to the right ports. I use Linux in a docker containers.

[proud dagger]

@rose valley what i can do for you is i can install 3 servers manually, start them all and let you see what im speaking of if you have time to call

[rose valley]

Okay but those are the logs. The best way to check is with something like netstat.

[lofty latch]

gotta love a 32:9 ultrawide for video editing 😄

[slender idol]

Yeah they don't show up in netstat either.

[rose valley]

It's entirely possible our logging might be broken too.

[slender idol]

Thats why I mean it's strange.

[lofty latch]

ooh I forgot to mention that! the logging is different on different platforms

which causes hekka confusion

[slender idol]

I can get a picture if you'd like.

[full vector]

The logging during startup claims that both servers use 15000 for me, however in netstat I can see both 15000 and 15001 being assigned to the different processes

so the logging just doesnt account for the dynamic port change

[slender idol]

Like, kudos for opening the random steam port when steam doesn't wanna work, but yeah, no beacon, and she's working just fine.

[rose valley]

That's a lot more explainable.

[slender idol]

-GamePort -ServerQueryPort and -BeaconPort are obviously set, but yeah

[rocky sentinel]

Is -GmePort still valid or is it -Port?

[full vector]

just -Port

[rocky sentinel]

That's what I thought, I run the following command line: ./FactoryServer.sh -ServerQueryPort=62007 -BeaconPort=62008 -Port=62009 with this as netstat once it's loaded: ```udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:62007 0.0.0.0:*
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:62008 0.0.0.0:*
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:62009 0.0.0.0:*

[slender idol]

Well the docs said -GamePort

[rocky sentinel]

The wiki says -Port now

[slender idol]

-Port is the native UE4 command though

[full vector]

the key being "said", as in past tense 😛

[lofty latch]

Really the server should crash out if the ports are in use rather than just moving up by one

[slender idol]

aaaaand fixed, but yeah, beacon port no need babyyy

[lofty latch]

because now there's ports being used in ways you're not necessarily expecting

[prime gorge]

Since last nights update I can't connect to the server anymore. However I receive its respond time and game status before trying to connect. However my connection attempt runs into a timed out connection attempt.

Game version: 0.5.0.3
Server build: 7612466

https://imgur.com/a/I0pMqAb

[proud dagger]

was there an update?

since yesterday

[prime gorge]

Huh ... this could explain it - lemme check

[full vector]

not since last night

[prime gorge]

Like said - last night. From a CEST perspective. So it was ~ 15h ago. I am on server build 7612466.

[slender idol]

Apart from the hotfix nah

[proud dagger]

its working normal now with no manual intervention but this is a fresh install

trying with my original test server

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

now i feel like i need a tin foil hat

[finite canopy]

lol

[slender idol]

Alright so THATS interesting

So now that I change to -Port, the Beacon shows up

That must be the Port+1 I was seeing.

[finite canopy]

hmm

[slender idol]

....that's a weird implementation thats for sure....

[proud dagger]

+1 bad practice just fyi

[slender idol]

Tell that to Bohemia

[proud dagger]

large data spikes will bleed across causing issues

[prime gorge]

Thanks alot for letting me know! This fixed my connection timed out issue. Thanks again!

[rose valley]

The two are not related. Beacon port and Port are handled through completely separate code paths.

[slender idol]

Alrighty, but what I'm saying is that when -Port is used, the Beacon shows up correctly and binds to the correct port as specified. When -GamePort is used, the Beacon is -GamePort+1

[rose valley]

!@#!@#!@# - I KNOW!

[slender idol]

My bad! Sorry I mistook confusion for something else 😛

[rose valley]

I fucked up. Bug in the last hotfix. It's not a weird implementation. It's me doing quick patches at 21:00 o'clock.

Will be fixed in the next update.

[slender idol]

Oh I feeeeeeel that

[rose valley]

Already fixed locally.

[tacit finch]

tztztz

[slender idol]

Masterful work to fix so quickly though.

[finite canopy]

lol

[tacit finch]

Bogdan Bogdan Bogdan....

xD

[rose valley]

I was almost ready to start a fight over this lol

[tacit finch]

😄

[slender idol]

Lets goooooo

[proud dagger]

alllllll im saying is i cant recreate the issues i seen yesterday, but the missing link is my partner that asked me to get what he couldnt get to work working XD so lets just all blame him yea?

[rose valley]

Oh I know someone who's made for blame:

[slender idol]

American english will always confuse me 😛

[proud dagger]

i had a channel for this said partner specifically for blaming him so XD

[slender idol]

Reckon you could throw a savedir flag in there while you're at it? 😉

😂

[proud dagger]

arc

you want a mind bender

[slender idol]

Hey the worst they can say is no

[rose valley]

That's... not so simple.

[proud dagger]

for american english?

[slender idol]

A man can hope 😛

[slender idol]

Is it cheese?

[proud dagger]

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

[rose valley]

Hey don't give up hope!

[slender idol]

I never will. I have faith in the process 🙂

[slender idol]

😐

[proud dagger]

"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically correct sentence in English, often presented as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated linguistic constructs through lexical ambiguity

[marsh dawn]

Are these names advertising server hosting? 😄

[proud dagger]

-.- maybeeeeeee

[slender idol]

Well, yes and no. I like to think I'm my own brand anyways, just a helpful soul 😛

Not saying theres a particular mammal in the henhouse whos copying.... 😛

[frosty gale]

Does anyone know where the server saves are located?

[slender idol]

Linux or Windows?

[proud dagger]

localappdata

[frosty gale]

windows

[marsh dawn]

Fair 😄 goes back to lurking mode

[slender idol]

%LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

[frosty gale]

ah ok

[slender idol]

Thats where they'll be 🙂

[frosty gale]

thanks found it

[lofty latch]

unless it's running as a service, in which case it's somewhere else

[proud dagger]

i literally just assume everyone is a windows nut like me XD

[trail lichen]

Hm... I could rename me into Private-Hosting.mine | Minrok 😄

[finite canopy]

lol

[proud dagger]

you wont

[slender idol]

As is a saying in my country - no balls, you wont.

[proud dagger]

Youre an american translator now?

[trail lichen]

Well I'm hosting a private server for my friends... 😛

[slender idol]

Same! I just have a lot of friends, and they pay me money 😛

[proud dagger]

and i didnt get an invite? how rude

[slender idol]

Something like that yeah 😛

[proud dagger]

LMFAO!!!!!!!

[trail lichen]

And who you are again? XD

[proud dagger]

is this part of you trying to muscle in on my territory?

[slender idol]

I have a superpowered box in dallas that has cobwebs on it 😛 Only muscle I'm flexing is superior spiders

But anywho, lets keep this for the helpings 😛

[proud dagger]

lmfao i have many of those boxes in dallas as you already know 😛 just no cobwebs lulul thats why i havent gone international, im afraid of spiders XD

[trail lichen]

Sounds like a mineshaft in Minecraft. 😛

[slender idol]

It can run minecraft really well 😛 Scary stuff

[proud dagger]

imagine a watercooled 10900k not running minecraft

[trail lichen]

and Vintage Story?

[slender idol]

lets not go too far

[trail lichen]

xD

[proud dagger]

ive got my satisfactory servers running on my dual xeon box tho, it runs really good so far

[bleak vessel]

so has anyone confirmed if playing on dedi has the same wonkiness and bugs with regards to vehicles as P2P hosting always had?

[slender idol]

Uhhhh sorta. Replication would be better overall, less reliance on the host

But, vics are notoriously TPS sensitive in UE4.

[trail lichen]

I have a Vintage Story Server, a Wreckfest Server and a Satisfactory Server running on my 1241v3, and it also has a looot of storage and some cute GPUs xD

[rocky sentinel]

I'm using Linux, running in a pterodactyl platform, so basically in docker containers, the only issue I've had so far is that the LinuxServer config directory doesn't get created if you keep killing the container, you have to do a graceful shut down of the server from the in-game console and that will create that directory.

[bleak vessel]

so does sorta = trains still have no sound and the UI is broken?

[slender idol]

I think they know about that one yeah

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[bleak vessel]

dang no reason to bother with dedi yet then 😦

[prime gorge]

Hold on - does that mean that you gonna revert -Game back to -GamePort? Or alter different paramters? Just opened up a change request for LinuxGSM to fix this. If there are gonna be other changes (too), then I would alter it.

[proud dagger]

i was running wreckfest, very niche market, ultimately failed for me cause i couldnt give console access direct. But i do run a bunch of minecrafts, some databases and vms on the same box. Overall im stupid happy on the way the dedi performs out of the gate for this game. Dual E5-2690's for me

[slender idol]

-Port

Realistically -Port being the UE4 implementation makes more sense.

[rose valley]

No, only -Port will apply. -GamePort will be only a dark page in Satisfactory's history.

[prime gorge]

It does - but at the end we are using what Bogdan is deciding 😉

[prime gorge]

Check - thank you for your hard work 🙂
I've already described a hotfix for the sfserver admins - the change will come tonight for all of LinuxGSM.

Otherwise I can tell that the server is running rock solid under (Rocky) Linux (8.4) 🙂

[rose valley]

What's the largest number of players on a server that you guys have seen? With the server still working, ofc.

[trail lichen]

do you have any low-end-potato-hardware to test the minimum requirements of the servers?

I'm currently with a friend on that, we're trying to build some kind of "benchmark base" to simulate lots of moving objects and stuff.

[proud dagger]

i have a 7700k thats the worst i got

[prime gorge]

Could there be a changelog or something for these things though @rose valley? It was mere coincedence that I've seen the -Port change in here. Guess a lot of self hoster are currently scratching their heads ...

[trail lichen]

that's nearly better than anything I have - beside my Ryzen in my desktop here. XD

[slender idol]

Pfft. Minimums.

[prime gorge]

Can tell you the coming weekend. No one of my so called "friends" want to play with me currently. But if you like me to I could setup an 8GB instance and ask for stress testing on the Steam forums or in #satisfactory-experimental

[lofty latch]

11

I'm pretty sure I could push 20+ no problem

we could all pile into a server right now and see what happens xD

[proud dagger]

is there a command arguement to limit RAM or are you linux boys just doing that yourselves with your fancy linux stuff

[lofty latch]

there's no such thing as limiting RAM

apps use as much as they need

[slender idol]

Nobody limits ram 😛

[trail lichen]

two players on a potato-hardware-server, but with only 10k moving items driving around on belts.

[slender idol]

You can try in docker, but the app will crash

[lofty latch]

you can use a container - but that doesn't limit memory usage - it just makes it start swapping to disk sooner or crash

Minecraft is what got everyone into the idea that you can 'limit' memory usage - because Java is a virtual machine

[rocky sentinel]

I can limit the amount of RAM available to the container, but not to the dedicated server process

[slender idol]

Linux ain't magic, it's just betterer in the majority of cases

[lofty latch]

pastebin is your friend...

[prime gorge]

Ye, you are right ^^;

[slender idol]

I read bacon. Not beacon

I need sleep..

[proud dagger]

have you already forgotten your minecraft training sire

[rose valley]

Will try to do better.

[trail lichen]

good night 🙂

[slender idol]

Limiting a JVM is different to a free-roaming process 😛

[prime gorge]

Just feedback, not meant as a destructive criticism 🙂

[frosty gale]

hello how to load a map to the server

[rose valley]

Taken as such!

[proud dagger]

Bogdan for pres 2022

[prime gorge]

EPYC with 2445 MHz and 8 GB RAM - working super smooth:
https://pastebin.com/KutnGAgw

[trail lichen]

located your common save folder and create a new folder called "server" place your save file in there.

[slender idol]

Happy to host a server in either Australia, Germany, Singapore or Dallas for testing purposes here if it's going to benefit us all 🙂

[rocky sentinel]

You also have to make your session name the same as the session name stored in the save file.

This may or may not be the same as the name of the file

[slender idol]

but I am off to bed, catch you cool cats later.

[prime gorge]

Huh

I've lost all my items oO

[rocky sentinel]

That happened to me too, with the last update. I had an extra Carus avatar in the game as well

[proud dagger]

I am hosting an open and free server as well already in Dallas if anyone wants to do dumb stuff on it XD

[solid forge]

Anyone know this error message yet?

if I start a neww game on the deddiicated server all is fine iif I try to lload our save ghame this happens

[proud dagger]

beacon port isnt open or is in use by something else

[solid forge]

awesome thanks any hints how I can open it or read the manual 😄

[proud dagger]

or at least that was what was causing my issue

[prime gorge]

Yes, change your startup parameter -GamePort to -Port. Was changed in the last update

[proud dagger]

^

wait

no

[proud dagger]

change to -port

[solid forge]

which fiile

[prime gorge]

Sorry, my mistake - changed it as well 🙂

[proud dagger]

i was confused af for a second LUL

[cedar notch]

how i can upload my save file to the server?

[prime gorge]

What system are you using and how do you start the server?

[solid forge]

zap hosting ... linux machine as far as i can tell

have limited console access

[small grove]

Has anyone found a server hosting site that has Satisfactory on it yet?

[prime gorge]

Is that a game hosting provider or a linux machine provider? If the later - how do you start your server?

[solid forge]

sorry game server provider I start over WWeb UI

[prime gorge]

Rent a linux cloud machine near you and use LinuxGSM. It's super easy (maybe wait to the hotfix tonight as the startup parameters have changed)

[prime gorge]

Ask your provider to change the startup parameter for you then

[small grove]

I am not IT savy and tbh I have no idea where to start with linux

[solid forge]

zap-hosting rteleased today for experimental dedicated server

[small grove]

if you had to recommend a Iinux host, which one would you recommend?

[prime gorge]

Where do you live?

[small grove]

SE USA

[prime gorge]

Probably AWS or Azure.

[small grove]

it deleted your link, I am assuming you sent me to the wiki.

[small grove]

I will check them out, thank you.

[prime gorge]

What you need is a cloud instance with min 2 CPUs and 8 GB RAM. And Linux. Most use Ubuntu server, I'd recommend against it and towards Rocky Linux or CentOS. Reason is, that Ubuntu is a consumer os - and therefore your search result leading to people speaking about their hobbyist computers. CentOS and Rocky Linu are meant for professional usage. Resulting in way better search results. Kinda funny though - Ubuntu isn't a bad os by any means 🙂

[rocky sentinel]

AWS and Azure are expensive for a play server in my opinion, if you search for linux virtual private service providers you should get a list, find one that has servers close to you.

[small grove]

is it cheaper to rent a Linux machine or just go with a hosting site?

[rocky sentinel]

Depends on your desired outcome, if you are just playing around, it's probably cheaper to get a root linux server. If you want something someone else supports and provides the support for, probably a hosting site then.

[proud dagger]

im hosting for 20/server

just saying

[subtle jasper]

I would recommend, hosting the server on a SSD. I ran mine on a slow hdd, i would not recommend

[rocky sentinel]

I'm thinking about it, but honestly, not sure I want to support an experimental server right now. 🙂

[solid forge]

II pay 23 CHF so around 20 Euro a month for 12 GB 4 Core 3.4 GHZ with 25 GB disk space wworks for me no maintenance needed --> iff I iget it up and runnign 😄

[proud dagger]

im cheaper than that for full support

mine is $20USD

[fickle zinc]

is there a way to see logs of the server (ubuntu linux) to see when people joined and disconnected?

[small grove]

So far the three sites I looked at to host a Linux VPS are over $100usd a month. I am not looking to spend that much, lol.

[solid forge]

awesome 🙂

[small grove]

Can I host a server on the same PC I play the game on?

[solid forge]

awesome

[solid forge]

you hosst in Frankfurt or switzerland

[proud dagger]

no only in US

[safe haven]

That definitely seems off.
You can get AWS instances for $10-15 and those aren't going to be the cheapest either.

[proud dagger]

@slender idol might have something for you tho, I highly recommend him.

[slender idol]

I'm in Germany

[small grove]

tbh, i dont even know exactly what I am looking for. I searched azure and Vultr, clicked pricing, and saw $200 and $120 then immediately closed the page.

[proud dagger]

and cheaper than me

[trail lichen]

Warum hostest du nicht selbst?
In der Schweiz solltest ja mehr als genug Bandbreite für sowas haben und du brauchst auch keine Highend Hardware um nen Satisfactory Server zu hosten 🙂

[slender idol]

Germany, Dallas, Singapore, Sydney. Instant setup, control panel, FAQ's in the knowledgebase, and a handsome host 😉

Now lemme sleep 😛

[slender idol]

I appreciate you

[proud dagger]

hes not lying about the handsome part, dude is something else

[proud dagger]

bro you know i got you 😉

[solid forge]

keiinen bock mich drum zum kümmern wenn die anderen zocken und was nioicht verhebt ... definitiv 23 CHF wwert 😄

[trail lichen]

Also bezahlst du weil du faul bist und nicht weil das Knowhow fehlt. XD
Das kann ich aber nach vollziehen. 😄

[solid forge]

jep schaff den ganzen Tag iin der IIT dann muss ich das net auch noch für meine besoffenen freunde machen

[proud dagger]

im not sure what youre saying but if its not go with arc then youre doing it wrong XD

[solid forge]

😄

[trail lichen]

I told him that you two eat children for lunch. 😛

[proud dagger]

not a total lie so its ok

[small grove]

dudes saying he is lazy or something.

[trail lichen]

Nah, all fine. It was just easier to ask him that in German, as it is is native more or less 🙂

[solid forge]

well now I'm interessted ...and yes II'm a lazy basstard tzhat rather pays than do it himself

[small grove]

What do I need to look for to host on AWS?

[solid forge]

na london boy

[fickle zinc]

You'd be paying a lot more than $15 for an AWS instance that can run the game, it needs at least 6GB of RAM

[proud dagger]

well southnode is your best bet, top notch support, great people, and my biggest competition 🙂

[trail lichen]

would also happen to me if I would work in IT all day... also you can kick supports butt if they don't get it done and you know it is a piece of cake to get something working. 😄

[small grove]

@proud dagger I only need 5 slots, can I pay less?

[proud dagger]

we know each other because we both are partnered with another studio, truly is a good hosting company thats well established in those regions

[trail lichen]

a healthy relationship can be a benefit. 🙂

[prime gorge]

Thanks for the addition. I have no knowledge about consumr usage on AWS/Azure. As a European I pay ~15 bucks/month for a 4 CPU/8GB/160GB storag server with hetzner - heart it is way more expensive in the US.

[proud dagger]

there is no way for us to limit slots rn because the query information isnt exactly public yet, we most likely wont change pricing because the usage isnt linear yet as far as I can tell so we just let you have all the resource you need for a lower price than the others who let you "configure" your usage

[proud dagger]

agreed 🙂

[fickle zinc]

an AWS t3.large (2vcpu, 8G RAM) would be ~$60USD per month

[lofty latch]

just put my video tutorial together ^_^

[proud dagger]

The truest of chads if there ever was one

[lofty latch]

not really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un7WVi_5x78

[vocal jungle]

I love bare-metal servers i have 3 in my basement lol

[proud dagger]

amp is like kubernates yea?

[lofty latch]

no

[proud dagger]

ive no experience with it was just curious

[lofty latch]

it can be kinda like it and deploy your servers into containers - but it doesn't have to

[proud dagger]

my next big project is to start kubernetes farms

[thorny magnet]

Nice video @lofty latch - hope that helps some folks out!

[prime gorge]

Reminds me that I wanted to start a guide on how to setup a Linux host and get the game running with LinuxGSM - thanks 🙂
What are you covering?

[lofty latch]

setting the server up with AMP

applies to both Windows and Linux

[prime gorge]

Nice, looking forward to it 🙂
My biggest bummer with AMP is that it is instance based paid. Not THAT much but I don't see the advantage. But I am not a basic user, too. So I can understand the advantage to people who "just want it to do".

[proud dagger]

wait...totally offtopic here...but someone has put windows xp on the nintendo DS

[lofty latch]

There are versions of it that aren't, or that have really large limits

[prime gorge]

Wasn't that achieved like ages ago? Or do I misstook this with something else?

[lofty latch]

Network Edition is like 50 instances which is more than most people would ever need xD

although some nutter the other day bought 2 copies of it

[prime gorge]

What would you pay for such a network edition?

[lofty latch]

£30

approx 35 eur/41 usd

[proud dagger]

per year?

[lofty latch]

one time cost - catch: no commercial hosting allowed on that version

commercial hosting requires an Enterprise licence

[proud dagger]

bruh you had me for a second

XD

[lofty latch]

well that's also pretty darn cheap

[proud dagger]

this your company?

if so just DM me

dont want to clutter this chat

[lofty latch]

you'll have to add me as a friend before we can DM each other

my DMs are locked down AF

[prime gorge]

Interesting. 35 Euro is totally ok for such a volume

[lofty latch]

indeed, it's all meant to be fair and reasonable - I'm not in the business of ripping people off

[prime gorge]

What do you see as enterprise usage? Asking from a lan party perspective. Does AMP use orchestration though? Could I deploy the servers over a set of different servers?

[lofty latch]

Enterprise is anyone who is selling servers. For a LAN party that's typically Network even if you charge for admission. Yes, it has what it calls a controller/target model so it can deploy across multiple machines

[prime gorge]

Sweet - taking a look into it 🙂

[trim hearth]

Yay! I have an instance up on my server... but forgot the admin password, anyone have an idea on how to reset that?

[finite canopy]

should be saved somewhere

[unique mortar]

anyone know why my server isn't updating?

or am I just stupid

or is it unreleased

[oblique zenith]

hello. my server was working last night but now it is crashing on launch. where can I find the log files?

[trim hearth]

used LGSM to install... this is a very different dedicated setup compared to the rest of the games i host :/

[solid forge]

quick question what is the filename of the config file where I set start-up params

[trim hearth]

hopefully in the savegame

[finite canopy]

no i think its in somewhere else

mostly where all the settings are of the server

[trim hearth]

"/home/sfserver/serverfiles/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/" for linux

[prime gorge]

Once you've understand where and how you need to config the instances LinuxGSM is such a nice and easy system 🙂
On lgsm/config-lgsm/sfserver/ you have or may have three files: _default.cfg, common.cfg, and <instance>.cfg.
_default.cfg is being overwritten by LGSM on updates. So just leave it as be. On common.cfg you can set whatever you want to change as it overrides _default.cfg. If you are going to host multiple instances of the same game on on system you can use <instance>.cfg to set things for each instance on its own. It's ovrriding common.cfg and therefore _default.cfg. And that's all you need to keep in mind 🙂

[finite canopy]

@trim hearth and for windows?

[trim hearth]

yeah digging around now, will update when i find it

[finite canopy]

o lol

[oblique zenith]

can someone smarter than me take a look at this log file and see why this is crashing? 😄

[finite canopy]

@oblique zenith maybe this

Project file not found: C:/steamcmd/satisfactory/FactoryGame/FactoryGame.uproject

[left heath]

anyone know where to find the config files on Windows?
Have tried looking in FactoryGame\Saved\Config, but only thing there is CrashReportClient

[alpine egret]

Anyone else hit a bug where the server crashes when loading the world (~20+ hours live), but can be fixed by deleting all players from the save game file?

[trim hearth]

thats the config once the server is up and running

[prime gorge]

LogModuleManager: Warning: ModuleManager: Unable to load module 'D3D11RHI' - 0 instances of that module name found. - have you installed DX11?

[left heath]

It is up and running, i have been logged on to it successfully

[trim hearth]

yeah but LGSM doesn't actually manage each game server instance - it runs a "hypervisor" of the server - and you config each game server through the game server... i wish it was easy like LGSM for the rest of the games i use

[noble bear]

Do we know some console commands already? Like Production Multiplyer?

[oblique zenith]

it was working past 2 days, just ran an app update validate and the server launched, gonna try to join and see if it crashes again

nah, it crashes when I simply click on the server in game

[prime gorge]

There is a Docker usage of LGSM - but I am not familiar with it. Sorry

[trim hearth]

yeah im not using docker for the same reasons 😛

[trim hearth]

did you update the client as well?

[oblique zenith]

where did you delete these? might try this myself if it fixed a crash for you

yah, both server and client are updated Yarbles

[alpine egret]

I just used the satisfactory save editor on github.

[oblique zenith]

did you delete both of these or just the Char_Player?

[alpine egret]

I deleted both because YOLO.

[oblique zenith]

lol

[alpine egret]

No clue which was the fix

[oblique zenith]

well, server didnt crash on startup after making that change, so you might be on to something

gonna see if it crashes on join now

[trim hearth]

actually according to the wiki its the same file structure as SP versions... so it probs wouldn't be much different

[oblique zenith]

😦

it crashed when I clicked on the server again

[trim hearth]

also still no luck with finding the admin password... i cant seem to see anything referencing the game instance

[trim hearth]

anything from the logs? theres crash logs in the FactoryGame folder

[trim hearth]

can you see the project file in that directory?

[oblique zenith]

no

it wasnt in that directory yesterday when it was working though

and if I validate or update files via steamcmd, it finds nothing

[tranquil gale]

api.stathat.com is blocked from pihole .. server hangs 2 seconds then continues

[oblique zenith]

I can load the save locally with no issues

so maybe I will just nuke the server and set up fresh

[noble bear]

IPv6 isnt working?

[fickle zinc]

anyone know if there is a command line api I can use to save the game in a cron?

[lofty latch]

The developers have said it isn't supported

[vocal jungle]

@lofty latch where you involed with McMyAdmin

[noble bear]

@lofty latch damn that gonne be hard no one have IPV4 this days anymore xD

[fickle zinc]

really? I dont know anyone that uses IPV6.

[cunning bane]

dedicated server runs but then crashes on user join

[noble bear]

Well in US / EU Most people with Fibre got IPv6 and shared IPv4 which cannot be used to host servers

[fickle zinc]

System Specs? I had that issue when I was using less than 6GB of ram

[fickle zinc]

good thing I dont have fibre Kappa

[noble bear]

lets see if I can add IPv6 Support.

[sleek hornet]

Im hosting from the UK and mine is fine

[whole nacelle]

Can you modify RAM usage ?

[fickle zinc]

umm, no, the game uses what it needs, I just meant I had setup a VM with 4GB of ram, and had to bump it up to 8

[whole nacelle]

Oh ok

[timid obsidian]

I updated the server with app_update 1690800 but I still can't log on it

[sudden summit]

The update command has been removed from the wiki??

[rose valley]

About IPV6, you can try it out by adding the following to Engine.ini:

[SystemSettings]
net.DisableIPv6=0

[timid obsidian]

Is there a way to update the server on launch ?

[oblique zenith]

yah, I reinstalled the server completely and it still crashes when I simply click on the server in game from my client

[olive palm]

Use on steamcmd app_update 1690800 validate with this you'll get the lasted server files

[noble bear]

@rose valley still have to use a hostname then right? Because the game itself not accept IPv6 inputs

[lofty latch]

@vocal jungle yes I made McMyAdmin

AMP is its replacement

[rose valley]

I think it might, if you enable IPv6

[sudden summit]

Server and client up to date, but cannot join server "versions not compatible"

[noble bear]

@low thorn it enables IPv6 sadly it crashes ^^

2021.10.28-13.50.14:033][  0]LogSockets: Warning: Tried to bind address with protocol IPv6 to a socket with protocol IPv4
[2021.10.28-13.50.14:033][  0]LogWindows: Windows GetLastError: Der Vorgang wurde erfolgreich beendet. (0)
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:242][  0]LogThreadingWindows: Error: Runnable thread ServerQuery crashed.
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:243][  0]LogWindows: Error: === Critical error: ===
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:244][  0]LogWindows: Error: 
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:244][  0]LogWindows: Error: Fatal error: [File:D:/ws/SB-160502110050-fad/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/Server/FGServerQuerySocket.cpp] [Line: 29] 
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:245][  0]LogWindows: Error: Could not bind to port '15777'. Server cannot continue initialization.
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:245][  0]LogWindows: Error: 
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:245][  0]LogWindows: Error: 
[2021.10.28-13.50.16:246][  0]LogWindows: Error: [Callstack] 0x00007fff13a44f99 KERNELBASE.dll!UnknownFunction []

[timid obsidian]

Same

[timid obsidian]

Even after this

[oblique zenith]

so, for anyone following the Stin drama here, I deleted all the save files from the server directory and I was able to create a new world and join w/o crashing
so even though the save in question with 20 hours on it loads locally just fine, it crashes the server

[sudden summit]

Mm, very annoying

Anyone have any ideas about why its saying client and server versions are not compatible when both are updated?

[oblique zenith]

what directory did you install the server files at? you sure you're updating the server files in the right place?

[sleek hornet]

Mine did that after update, and i messed up as i forgot to tell the update where the server was installed so it installed a new one @sudden summit

[timid obsidian]

look

[sudden summit]

Server files are C:\steamcmd\satisfactorydedicatedserver

[rose valley]

LogSockets: Warning: Tried to bind address with protocol IPv6 to a socket with protocol IPv4
That seems like a plausible cause. We will fix IPv6 support before long.

[sudden summit]

Additionally, it updated just fine last night

[fickle zinc]

@rose valley is there a logfile that keeps track of users joining/exiting the game?

[sudden summit]

Also additionally, it did update the server files, it now says theyre up to date too

[rose valley]

You can find that information in the main log file.

It may be a little cryptic but it's there.

[sudden summit]

I don't think this is my issue but how did you specify where to update

[sleek hornet]

@sudden summit did you till it where to update it bud

[sudden summit]

Nope

But it worked last night

and about 20 minutes ago, it updated it, but game says versions incompatible

[sleek hornet]

steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir C:\steamcmd\satisfactorydedicatedserver +app_update 1690800 -validate +exit

use that

[sudden summit]

gonna try that thanks man

[sleek hornet]

that fixed mine

[sudden summit]

its doing it now, so weird that I didn't need that yesterday

thanks:)

[sleek hornet]

np

[brisk cloak]

Hey! Is there list of console commands somewhere?

[fickle zinc]

I'm looking in /home/steam/.steam/steamcmd/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryGame/Saved/Logs but not seeing anything related to users

[sudden summit]

ohhh dear, error time

[oblique zenith]

does anyone know how to get the server to load a specific save?

[sleek hornet]

@sudden summit?

[sudden summit]

Assertion failed: shortcut [File:D:/ws/SB-160502110050-fad/UE4/Games/FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/FGPlayerState.cpp] [Line: 248]

[oblique zenith]

welcome to the error party Joey lol

[sudden summit]

server exits

lmaooo

[oblique zenith]

been working on mine for 1 hour

[sudden summit]

same error?

[oblique zenith]

no lol

[sudden summit]

yay xD

[sleek hornet]

what is everyone doing lol

[sudden summit]

i have no idea where to begin with sorting out this error

[sleek hornet]

pull the game save and start again

[sudden summit]

ive done a lot on the game save

im close to giving up with server stuff for now and just hosting it through the game

[fickle zinc]

Nevermind, I found it in a backup log, shows UNetConnection::Closethough it shows the RemoteAddr as my router not the source IP

[sleek hornet]

copy it

[oblique zenith]

so I nuked my server and made a backup of the save. I copied the save file back into the server directory before starting up the server, but from my client, it still says the server needs to create or load a game

[oblique zenith]

is there any way I can manually force the server to load a specific save file?

[sudden summit]

From the wiki:

[sleek hornet]

@sudden summitis that server or client

[sudden summit]

client side error, it crashes the server

well, i suppose thats a server side error really

happens if I click server manager

[rose valley]

You should be seeing something like this:

[2021.10.28-14.05.44:667][867]LogNet: Join succeeded: <name of player>

[rose valley]

You can also do that from within the pause menu, when playing on a server. A bit cumbersome but temporary.

[sleek hornet]

i got that last night but i went afk on the server and it kicked me, but never crashed the server tho @sudden summit

[fickle zinc]

I see the Join, but the Close is less clear

[sudden summit]

It happens as soon as I click server manager in-game

[rose valley]

Known issue. Fix coming soon.

[sudden summit]

Cool:)

[sleek hornet]

@sudden summit dont click it then lol

[sudden summit]

I can't join the server but I guess you are right... that does stop the error from occuring xD

[rose valley]

That I acknowledge.

[sleek hornet]

so did your server update in the end

[sudden summit]

Yep it did thank you, but as Bogdan just pointed out, I am experiencing a known issue

[sleek hornet]

cool cool

[fickle zinc]

Bogdan, is there a CLI API for saving the game via cron? or is that planned?

[full vector]

Not yet, planned.

[prime gorge]

What are your startup parameters for the server?

[oblique zenith]

so it says to enter the session ID in the server settings tab. my question is where? lol

[rose valley]

We have autosaving at set intervals. No CLI API but we might have a remote control API in the future.

[sleek hornet]

@prime gorge just to start it or install it

[sudden summit]

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
Was working fine until today

[meager summit]

another ben?

[tranquil gale]

Server Crash Dumps Upload is default enabled? Or?

[prime gorge]

You need to specify your port settings apparently. Check the servwr wiki and add all three with the default value.
That's just a guess. Maybe @rose valley can confirm if the stabdard settings are applied when no parameters are given.

[prime gorge]

Hi, I'm Ben :)

[rose valley]

You do not need to. You may do that, if for whatever reason you need to change them.

[meager summit]

@ ben dev impersonator here! ;)

[sudden summit]

It's binding to the ports fine, Bogdan has said the error I'm getting server-side is a known issue (error is #dedicated-servers message)

[meager summit]

dogshit dedis ;)))

[rose valley]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-greta-thunberg-gif-15130785

[meager summit]

you should ask the mods to le CSS members have embeds lmao

[solemn shell]

Eyo I need to extract the save file from the server, is this the only file? ServerSettings.15777 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/884933515928551475/903285800010137610/unknown.png

[prime gorge]

Ok :)
Got the same error and needed to switch from -GamePort to -Port. That's why I was asking.

[meager summit]

my dedi works fine without port forwarding

[burnt blaze]

That's weird.

[meager summit]

i live life on the edge with DMZ

[rose valley]

Here comes the DMZ ad 😆

[meager summit]

bahaha

Join Joshie DMZ for free, for only 6.99 a month

[full vector]

my dedi is on a hardware box in a datacenter with a public IP, forwarding? pish posh. Need to open the firewall though =p

[meager summit]

walls of fire do not sound good

[full vector]

actually its quite pretty

[meager summit]

i know, but it sounded cool

[solemn shell]

Is this the save file on the (linux) dedicated server?

just that one file?

[oblique zenith]

sorry if im being dumb, but Im not seeing anywhere to actually put a session id to get the server to load the save

[rose valley]

No that is just the server settings. The save file should be in a subdirectory called server

[meager summit]

hows dedi dev going bogdan?

having fun with all the bug reports?

[rose valley]

well, as you can see 😊

[solemn shell]

@rose valley

[meager summit]

no bugs, understood

[sleek hornet]

lol

[cunning bane]

how do i append more ram to the dedicated server?

[solemn shell]

It's headless, you dont need to

[full vector]

is that like downloading more ram?

[fair rune]

downloading ram

ok

[rose valley]

Been fixing some issues here and there but spent a lot of time here, collecting feedback. I think I'll need to go off the radar long term to be able to get more done.

[rose valley]

that means there aren't any save files.

[cunning bane]

well i cant figure out why my server is crashing on client join on 32 gigs of ram then

[meager summit]

i asked uzu to add a dedi tag on the QA site if that helps you at all lol

[rose valley]

It does, thanks!

[solemn shell]

but that would be weird as I already play on the server

Only after the last patch it isn't booting up

[noble bear]

I have to wait for you guys to add IPv6 sadly, hope you guys can do that, would help a lot ^.^

[solemn shell]

You can always ask your isp if they have a ipv4 for you

some give it for free if you ask

[noble bear]

They don't they are sold out worldwide

they only save them for business

[cunning bane]

I really came in here like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pVNvSuA2mM

[brisk cloak]

can anybody see my server from ip.locane.fi

[wraith pebble]

what do you mean, i think satisfactory supports ipv6

[noble bear]

And I mean IPv6 is the future, why should I run outdated Network Protocol =/

@wraith pebble not the Server tho^^

[full vector]

Unfortunately most games still rely on v4, but with this being so new, it appears like v6 might actually get functional 🙂

[rose valley]

lol just like Python 3

[wraith pebble]

oh, are you sure?

[rose valley]

Sorry, I couldn't help it. I agree with you. It's important to have it.

[noble bear]

Yeah, and the Client don't support IPv6 as well, if you enter an IPv6 into Server list, it gonna tell you, the IP is malformed 😄

[rose valley]

He has information from the devs 😄

[wraith pebble]

oh, my bet is that they will add it, just that they didn't for the initial test.

[full vector]

As Bogdan stated earlier, v6 was disabled because it had ... issues. Will be returning when he gets a chance to fix it 🙂

[wraith pebble]

But the satisfactory game when hosting ingame does support ipv6.

[fickle zinc]

Who types in IPV6 addresses anyway? use a domain

[oblique zenith]

lol

[rose valley]

Guys, I had a lot of fun hanging out with you here. But someone needs to work on those servers too. I think you'll begin to see less of me for a while.

[noble bear]

well you copy&paste the IPv6 lol

[solemn shell]

Good luck Bogdan

[noble bear]

I mean you not gonna host a public server where you need a Domain Name

[snow belfry]

yeah work on servers ! 😄

[midnight elk]

server crashes on client connection any ideas for solution?

[oblique zenith]

thanks for the info Bogdan, good luck mate

[fickle zinc]

WAT?

[cunning bane]

@midnight elk same here

[safe haven]

I've had the opposite problem: client crashes when disconnecting from a server.

[midnight elk]

lmao

[cunning bane]

want to trade?

[fickle zinc]

I had this issue AFAIK its been fixed in the latest build

[safe haven]

It is all experimental after all..

[snow belfry]

funny how bodgan has no time anymore, literally 30 min before Age4 releases.. coincidence ? I think not !

[vocal jungle]

I am running 3 servers so far in diffrent methods good times

[sleek hornet]

what error you getting@midnight elk as it mite be a bug thats being patched

[midnight elk]

can you point me to the crash logs?

[nova rose]

@snow belfry you mean he gave himself 30 minutes to eat and drink before going on that ?

[frosty gale]

can i import an old save into my server saves folder?

or do i have to wait until the manage saves tab is finishd?

[snow belfry]

ofc get everything ready to the pc 😄 need snacks, gonna be a long medieval war

[sleek hornet]

@frosty galeyer you can look here https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[fickle zinc]

Check the Wiki

[fair rune]

my client from epic games has the newest version and the server also has the newest

[full vector]

One of them doesn't, though

[sleek hornet]

@midnight elk not found them my self what comes up on the client screen

[cunning bane]

thats how we got to the server crashing on client connect

[snow belfry]

check actual server version, the steamcmd might say its the current version but that is not always correct

[vocal jungle]

did you up with this steamcmd +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 +exit or with the forcedir tag ?

[sleek hornet]

@fair rune when you did the update did you tell it where to update

@midnight elkthats the bug

its getting patched

[midnight elk]

nice lol

thanks

[sleek hornet]

np

[marble garnet]

Is it possible to download the satisfactory server tools if i don't own the game on steam, but only on epic??

[snow belfry]

when updating with app_update 1690800 add "validate"

[burnt blaze]

Yes. Check the wiki under manual installation

[crystal spade]

it works with anon login from steamcmd

[vocal jungle]

yed

[oblique zenith]

has anyone actually gotten this to work?
I'm not seeing anything under server settings to actually specify a session ID to get my server to load a save

[sleek hornet]

@oblique zenith yer i got it to work

[fickle zinc]

Yes it worked for me

[nova rose]

so did I

[burnt blaze]

I have also got it to work

[oblique zenith]

I must be dumb or blind then? where yall put the session id?

[oblique zenith]

wait

[marble garnet]

Am i forced to use steamcmd??

[full vector]

for now, yes

[crystal spade]

aye

[marble garnet]

Okay thanks

[fickle zinc]

2G is not enough

[crystal spade]

but it runs well ^^ i just found now a first issue ^^

[fair rune]

No how can i do that

[marble garnet]

4G of RAM are necessary

[snow belfry]

its not that complicated 😄 its basically a few commands and you done.. and after you launch it via cmd

[fickle zinc]

recommended is at least 6GB

[crystal spade]

my server uses 4.6 gb now

7hours old game

[brisk cloak]

@fickle zinc have to try how long 2gig will take it with swap

[marble garnet]

I know it, but i would have prefer an executable

[fickle zinc]

Mine crashed whenever I tried to join with 4G

[brisk cloak]

im playing in my server

[crystal spade]

you have a script to start

[fickle zinc]

I prefer not to use Swap

[grand geode]

anyone aware of train time table issues? like client cannot set a timetable

[snow belfry]

well it is an executable, after you downloaded it via steamcmd

[brisk cloak]

i would to, 😛 running out of ram

[sleek hornet]

@fair rune just add +force_install_dir and where you put the server install in the update bat file

[crystal spade]

first issue i see on my dedi (debian 10.11 / ryzen 7 / 64gb ram / nvme disk)
some spawn issues

[frosty gale]

how do you make a dedicated server?

[grand geode]

So it has a timetable but says no timetable?

[steady hollow]

read the pins

[crystal spade]

see pinned @frosty gale

[snow belfry]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[burnt blaze]

I've seen people say timetables don't work on dedi

[grand geode]

No work arounds?

[burnt blaze]

🤷

[oblique zenith]

well, I finally figured it out, but this save is still crashing my server

gg bois

[snow belfry]

its not only dedicated server, the problem is that timetables do not work on client only host, which is also a problem in general multiplayer, dedicated server every player is client.. so nobody can use timetables

so thats something that needs to be fixed by css

[grand geode]

Yeah i was aware it was a bug. But I thought they claimed they fixed it for dedicated somewhere

[snow belfry]

can't remember seeing it myself, but who knows

[finite canopy]

I think the time tables are server side, and relative to the clients

[oblique zenith]

holy shit, I fixed it

[frosty gale]

I have a saved game called With_Eclipse_autosave_0.sav

[grand geode]

So can you take a save game from a linux dedicated load it in client and alter it then move it back?

[oblique zenith]

nuked the players with a save editor and server no crash

[snow belfry]

i wonder if someone has an UDOO Bolt V8 and running satis server on that 😄 should def work with that sbc

[frosty gale]

And i created a session called With_Eclipse_autosave_0

But it still starts a new game

Isn't this what i need to be doing?

[burnt blaze]

You need the session ID, not the save name.

[snow belfry]

one thing i will not help people on, is with messing with the saves^^ too much can go wrong if you dont know what you are doing. as @oblique zenith ofc you can make it work^^ but not gonna go down that road, the suggestion is and always will be, start new save. Especially with the world changes as well

[trail lichen]

• stop the server
• delete all save file
• copy your wanted save file
• write session ID into the server manager

[frosty gale]

How do i get the session name?
\

[trail lichen]

from you save

[frosty gale]

so i should load it singleplayer?

[burnt blaze]

That is from the load save menu. Those are the session names

[crystal spade]

these are live data from our server mostly used 1 / 2 cores and around 5gb ram at early game, 4 players online

[snow belfry]

to your first save i say : NO ! Stop begging !

[frosty gale]

oh session id

ok so this string

of random characters

i copy it to clipbaord

correct?

[burnt blaze]

Not quite, just the "please" or "update5 prep" or "Update 5 Multi" etc

[burnt blaze]

I have one named poopburger2

[snow belfry]

lol

[frosty gale]

ok gotcha

[trail lichen]

why I'm not surprised?

[snow belfry]

quite a lot tbh, really interesting it will be when it gets to late game tho

[hushed garnet]

can i use forever monitor with the game server?

[crystal spade]

i use screen and crontab for it

[snow belfry]

hey 😄 long time no see^^

[hushed garnet]

ello

[crystal spade]

lets see ^^

i'll start prepare the config to have more player slots and more network speed (server has 1gb+100mb network

[snow belfry]

yeah i would just use screen easiest thing to use 🙂 i remember when i ran multiple css servers with screen 😄

back in 1996 or something, cant remember

[hushed garnet]

epic! where can i get it?

[crystal spade]

i'll use it since... no date remembered ^^

[snow belfry]

sudo apt-get install screen

should be in the repo

[hushed garnet]

in root right?

[crystal spade]

with sudo

[snow belfry]

with user, never install shit with root usually

[crystal spade]

never use root if you have no need for

[hushed garnet]

sry yes user

[frosty gale]

1 question does anyone know where to get the dedicated server software

[snow belfry]

you remember, su steam

[hushed garnet]

yep

im there now

[snow belfry]

check pinned

you have to use steamcmd

thats atm the only way

[hushed garnet]

it asks for a steam password tho?

[crystal spade]

mine is su - satisfactory ^^

[whole nacelle]

Type login anonymous

[snow belfry]

he is talking about linux user not steamcmd

[whole nacelle]

Oh sry

[snow belfry]

when you are root, and switching with su steam, it should not ask for password

if you do apt-get install screen it will ask for password

that is why you use sudo

"sudo apt-get install screen"

should not need password

[snow belfry]

maybe the root password

[hushed garnet]

hmm?

[snow belfry]

we did not set password

[crystal spade]

the password for steam user

[snow belfry]

so you need to set password for steam user

we did not do that yet

[hushed garnet]

ahh

[snow belfry]

just google that 🙂

[hushed garnet]

thx

[snow belfry]

<- age of empires 4 now 😄

[hushed garnet]

ahah epiccc

[snow belfry]

cya guys

[hushed garnet]

cya

[crystal spade]

enjoy

[snow belfry]

this might help you before i go :

https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/configuring-linux-sudoers-file/

[frosty gale]

I have to update my Satisfactory server to the the patch of today. However it tells me I am already up to date. Any way to force the update?

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Console
I can't find the ping command (like network)

does anyone know it?

[proper wedge]

Server has crashed a few times, log shows this as the only error, i can pastebin the stack trace if someone wants it Unhandled Exception: SIGSEGV: invalid attempt to write memory at address 0x0000000000000003

[main void]

Manage Session -> Manage Players will give a snapshot of your ping

[prime gorge]

Thanks for your hard work! We are here if you need some feedback or want to hang out with your admins :)

[proper wedge]

Okay i figured out what crashed the server, but i dont know WHY it crashed the server

[cunning bane]

its our save causing server crash?

[blissful osprey]

Did the server port change in the latest update? I'm running into issues. the server worked fine on port 7777, but now it's trying to access port 7778 (and that's blocked by docker config)

[proper wedge]

It crashed on Dismantling an item

[tranquil gale]

yes, i saw this too

[blissful osprey]

I think it tries to bind 7777 after the server itself already bound it and then passes to 7778

7778 appears only at the bottom there, nothing before that

however, 7777 appears multiple times

[low nest]

@proper wedge yes is a bug.
an is reportet by a lot on the
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/search?sort=1&category=bug

[frosty gale]

?

[low nest]

@proper wedge seams like a fix for the crash will come to the next update now 🙂
Status: FIXED_INTERNALLY
set by developer
Edited: 50 minutes ago
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/617877df831c852052352866

[proper wedge]

Very nice, good find thanks @low nest

[solemn shell]

Do dedicated servers also produce cloud backups?

[burnt blaze]

No.

[low nest]

@solemn shell no is local storage

[solemn shell]

well shit

Last update deleted it

[river sand]

you could setup google drive to backup after so long if you need cloud backup

[solemn shell]

I was running it inside amp, inside a container

[low nest]

dont use amp ( paid software ) for free software

[solemn shell]

Amp is really good for all my minecraft servers

Just not the other things

but I can't tell if it's satisfactory of amp that deleted it

[blissful osprey]

I don't suggest AMP. Used it before, it's kinda sad. I use Pterodactyl and I love it in comparison

[solemn shell]

Pterodactyl is an ass to setup on Unraid

[blissful osprey]

really? I have it on a vps, it took me 10 mins to set up

[solemn shell]

On?

OS wise

[gleaming bay]

Has anyone gotten this error after setting up a dedicated server
"The server and game mode are not compatible" I have updated the server using steamcmd app_update 160800 validate but still nothing

[blissful osprey]

Ubuntu 20.04LTS

[solemn shell]

Yea that's not unraid :p

[blissful osprey]

try forcing the directory

[solemn shell]

And make use both are up to date

restart both game and server

[hushed garnet]

can i run the server instance via screen on linux?

[proper wedge]

Of course

[blissful osprey]

anyway, I have this issue, could be related to docker?

[hushed garnet]

u know how? 👀

[proper wedge]

screen -S SFgame

and then run the server sh

[toxic stump]

I haven’t looked into this a whole lot. But my friend that rented it said it’s not a true dedi which is why there was an avatar named G-portal. I presume that’s more a dedicated session than it is a dedicated server, and might explain our issues.

[proper wedge]

in the new screen

[main void]

@gleaming bay It probably just didn't update, are you trying to update manually or just via a script?

[hushed garnet]

ill try it

it works

thanks man

[sleek hornet]

@gleaming bay tell the update bat where the server is installed that fixed it for me

[rocky sentinel]

Check your command line switches, there was a change yesterday from -GamePort to -Port

[blissful osprey]

i'm restarting with the command line changed. Is it fixed now the port changer or it still doesn't work? (aka forced 7777?)

[rocky sentinel]

You can change the ports, you just can't redirect to them, for example my command line on linux is: ./FactoryServer.sh -ServerQueryPort=62007 -BeaconPort=62008 -Port=62009 which opens UDP ports 62007, 62008, 62009 respectively.

[blissful osprey]

I knew about the redirection, but yesterday the port change arguments weren't working

[rocky sentinel]

The -GamePort was broken yesterday, but they fixed that and moved it to -Port

[blissful osprey]

good to know

thanks

[full kraken]

i love pterodactyl

[forest wolf]

anyone knows what to do cant log in

[rocky sentinel]

pterodactyl's been working great, the only issue I'm having with it is that it doesn't shut down the server process before killing the container, which in turn doesn't write some files on new installs.

[nova oasis]

Opening port 7778 fixed this for me but I think this is fixed or will be fixed in an update (check the comments above)

[placid peak]

Where are the saves located for your satisfactory server if you use steamcmd?

[quick mist]

start looking in ~/.config/Epic/

[nova oasis]

How do you rename the server? If I make any changes to the Server Name field in the UI, they're overwritten after a second

[sleek hornet]

@forest wolf its a bug its getting patched in the next update

[wraith oriole]

I managed to rename the name by quickly pasting the new name and instantly hitting enter.

[nova oasis]

Hah! That worked, nice trick

[sleek hornet]

@placid peak %LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\server

[tranquil briar]

Hi, I get an Critical Error Crash every time on shooting with the Rebar Gun. Some one else has this?

[valid geyser]

Yes got this:

[2021.10.28-16.20.14:517][145]LogExit: Executing StaticShutdownAfterError
Engine crash handling finished; re-raising signal 11 for the default handler. Good bye.
Segmentation fault

[forest wolf]

thx

[tranquil briar]

So it seems to be already reported 🙂

[alpine skiff]

My server is working fine now for client, but when the client isn't able to see it as online I've noticed that the log in steamcmd always stops at this red line. I know other people have experienced this, but does anyone have any ideas as to why? If there's something I can do to avoid it I'd like to try it

[fluid turret]

I have encountered that when I used a machine with a crappy network adapter so it wasn't slow but inconsistent, other than that its might just be unstable connection.

[tacit finch]

change the hamster within your router

should work then

[alpine skiff]

Oh my god, you may be right!

[tacit finch]

Ya know? The poor little one

[alpine skiff]

I'm using Spectrums gig router so it's definitely not ideal. I'll just assume it's inconsistent then. As long as I didn't set the network up improperly I'm happy with it

[fluid turret]

Well unless its the machine having trouble running the server its most often network problem, what rig you got?

[alpine skiff]

Ryzen 3700x, 3070, 64GB DDR4 and it's running off an M.2 SSD

And yes, I know 64gigs of ram is too much for a personal PC, but I got really tired of maxing out my ram by playing warzone while getting stuck in youtube rabbit holes

[fluid turret]

Whats your up/down speeds

[fluid turret]

I am not the person you have to explain 64gb of ram to

lol

I got 32 right now I need another 32

[alpine skiff]

Exactly!

[prime gorge]

There is no thing as such as "too much ram". Well .. at least not for consumers as 64bit sets the RAM limit to 16 Exabyte,

[fluid turret]

Running VMs, games and dedicated servers uses lots of ram, oh and chrome

[alpine skiff]

My local down is around 1GBps and my local up is about 40MBps

[fluid turret]

I'd say there is a point of too much bad ram when you could go with less ram of higher quality for the same price.

[alpine skiff]

Finally, some sensible people

[crystal spade]

only one thing fix ram ^^ more of it ^^ all time ^^

[fluid turret]

Cant wait for DDR5 so I can buy DDR4 for cheaper lol

[tacit finch]

DDR4 is already quite cheap?

[prime gorge]

Higher frequencies and standards not included. Of course DDR4 is faster than SDRAM 😉

[meager summit]

DDR is good game

[jovial warren]

looks at his stack of servers with a combined 40TB of RAM...

[prime gorge]

Haven't the prices for DDR4 not went up tremendously?

[fluid turret]

shut up I am poor

also good ddr4 is not cheap

[jovial warren]

hmmm.. maybe i could add more?

[crystal spade]

damn ^^ have only 512 gb on my homeserver ^^

[tacit finch]

16gb DDR4 (3200Mhz) for 70€

Thats cheap

[prime gorge]

Ehhh

[fluid turret]

whats the specs

[prime gorge]

End of 2019 you've paid this for 3600

[jovial warren]

they have a 1TB each. HP DL380s 😋

[tacit finch]

80€

[crystal spade]

most of my "servers" are rpi4 8gb ^^

[jovial warren]

hey those are good home lab boxes... space saving and you can pretty much do anything you want on them.... there slow... but they still get the job done

[crystal spade]

i don't use them with desktop and @2ghz. they are good for nearly all things i need

[oblique zenith]

just to clarify quick, this was a new save that was started after U5 dropped. the issue was with the server trying to load the save, it loaded locally just fine. multiple people are dealing with the same crashes and have used the same fix of deleting the players with a save editor to get the server to load the save w/o crashing.

[prime gorge]

If you are taking the power consumption into consideration those old boxes aren't that good anymore. If you just want to test stuff, get some Ryzen, 32 - 64gb of ram and some hard drives and you are good to go. And way cheaper in the long run

[crystal spade]

talkin about rpi4 not 3 ^^ they are not quite old

and even the rpi3 do their job as media server

not fast, but very stable

[jovial warren]

Power to Watt ratio.. yeah no there not that great.. but they are nice for the space savings.. one of my techs built a few in a shadowbox picture frame and hung it on his wall above his PC setup.. kinda cool looking.. but he just runs webserver stuff for his Node.js stuff..

[crystal spade]

jep ^^ for dicord bots
but also i use them as media stations in nearly every room and for the kids. saves a lot of power with solar powered line ^^

[prime gorge]

Someone mentioned serverboxes, assumed we are talking about them. Not RaspPies - my appologiez

[fluid turret]

There are racks you can put pies in, baked and not baked variety

[tacit finch]

#off-topic-tech

[fluid turret]

Its a pun bro

[tacit finch]

it gets out of hand here 😄

[manic hatch]

I am interested in this, but wasn't able to friend request you.

[jovial warren]

wait I think I missed something... what requires a licence?

[fluid turret]

AMP cause it aint free

[tacit finch]

AMP?

Help me what was that?

Thinking German here right now

[quick mist]

AMP is a paid-license game web UI game server management console

[jovial warren]

your talking about the one from cubecoders?

[quick mist]

I've never looked into it further than "paid" because nope.

[tacit finch]

Ahhhh something like teklab

[fluid turret]

Good on Phonic for making the dough but I dont think dedi at this stage should be commercialized it just isnt ready.

[upper quest]

Yeah

[manic hatch]

AMP is a game server control panel. My company is looking to offer servers for satisfactory and I was surprised to see a panel that had it setup already.

If you're just running a game server for fun you don't need any licenses, unless you want a control panel

[quick mist]

unless you want that control panel

[fluid turret]

I am aware thats the problem in my opinion there is nothing to control yet so whats the point in a panel

there are no commands make for dedi yet, all you can do is stop the server

[jovial warren]

exactly ^^

[quick mist]

I could set up a (crappy-looking because I am no artist) web front-end if I wanted one

but why do that when I can ssh? (:

[manic hatch]

automation mostly, nightly backups of save files, automatic restarts if the server crashes, updating the server for you when there is an update.

[tacit finch]

lol

[quick mist]

and they've announced that rcon (or something like it) is coming

[tacit finch]

AMP costs 10 bucks...

[quick mist]

systemd handles restarts and updates nicely for zero dollars

[tacit finch]

Look into Teklab and you know whats expensive

[upper quest]

If there is little to no commands then we do not need a panel

[manic hatch]

pterodactyl also handles all of those things for zero dollars

but at scale, if you are running multiple servers its nice to have something do it for you.

[fluid turret]

Mostly features that should be working but dedi is super experimental so its not working, you get what my point of view is right?

[quick mist]

if you're running at scale, systemd and ansible. still zero dollars.

[tacit finch]

Docker ftw

[latent bloom]

Needs ~3 tries to join... (connection timeout)
Takes 5 more minutes to initial load some whatever...

Until it seems playable, altough i'm on localhost...
Is that on me or does it take this long for you as well?

[full vector]

I'm only hosting for myself and a group of friends, various games, whatever we decide to play at the time, i tried most free panels like pterodactyl and what have you, didn't like any of them, went back to making my own scripts =p

[jovial warren]

For my customers we don't use Control Pannels and such to manage their games... we only rent full scale Dedicated VPS boxes so there full featured linux installs.. no shared memory cpu or storage so a control panel for us is pointless. only thing we leverage is the hypervisors console.

[quick mist]

as it should be

[fluid turret]

How big is your save file, whats the specs of the system?

[manic hatch]

no I understand 🙂

[crystal spade]

screen and crontab will do also ^^

[tacit finch]

o_O screen

[quick mist]

the only thing I don't like about systemd is that when I (logged in as the role user who owns the service) try to control the service I still need to re-auth as myself even though I'm already logged in

[tacit finch]

use Docker its way safer

[quick mist]

It's probably some simple config setting I need to tweak though in the service file

[snow belfry]

nope 😄 screw docker 😄

[crystal spade]

i never run into trouble till now ^^ and i ran servers for years

[tacit finch]

screw Screen

[quick mist]

screen is fine

[snow belfry]

screw pcs ! lets all play in the sand ! more fun anyway

[crystal spade]

i use some dockers also. but not for tests ^^

[tacit finch]

but not for server administration xD

[crystal spade]

AOE 2 ^^

[latent bloom]

3,7GHz quadcore, 16GB RAM
5.7MB Savefile

[snow belfry]

tell that to dozens of servers who ran with that before docker ? 😄

[jovial warren]

Screen is fine for new users to linux.. a bunch of our clients use it.. its simple to understand and easy to teach... you want power... use tmux

[fluid turret]

5.7 is on the larger side, was it from U4?

[crystal spade]

why not ? ^^ if all is good documented, all run fine

[latent bloom]

yes

[manic hatch]

+1 for docker 😄 much lighter weight then running separate VM's and still get the isolation benefit

[quick mist]

tmux has yet to bring anything new to the table that makes me want to take the effort to rewire my ^A muscle memory into ^B.

[snow belfry]

its kinda like people saying: msdos cant run games^^ ofc it can.. i mean its more simple and more old^^ but still frikkin works 😄

[crystal spade]

^^

i may run SF dedi in docker if all runs well. but for now, screen will do fine ^^

[sleek ruin]

how do I make sure the server saves?

just had a crash and it went back 16 hours

xD

[quick mist]

"screen vs tmux" is just the new "emacs vs vim" so far as I'm concerned. Use what you want; they're both great tools

[manic hatch]

saving happens when a player exits the game

I think you can also save from the menu while in a server?

[quick mist]

you can

[jovial warren]

hehe how about nano 😋

[sleek ruin]

ok

[crystal spade]

safe manually from time to time ^^

[quick mist]

as before: use what you want (:

[crystal spade]

nano 🙂 my fav

[fluid turret]

@latent bloom how much ram is the server taking up when you are in it?

[quick mist]

something something 'pico vs. nano'

[manic hatch]

oh so we want to fight today 😦

[tacit finch]

thats the word....its needs to be documented...I cant count how many times I had a server before me where NOTHING was documented.

Screen GameServer need a Script to restart it if it crashes Docker goes and restarts the fucking container.

[snow belfry]

which means more control ! what if you dont want it to restart ? 🙂

[tacit finch]

Screen or software which does not need a active shell to run

[burnt blaze]

4-5 gbs or more

[dark idol]

I feel like I have searched the entire internet but I cant seem to find how to start the dedicated servers from Linux can someone help me

[latent bloom]

Nvidia 1016 btw

*1060

[tacit finch]

You set it up without restart. its not like its mandatory

[fluid turret]

wow only 2gb of ram, I think task manager is just shit at reporting ram usage

[sturdy swift]

@dark idol https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[crystal spade]

i use cron script for shutdown and restart with update check all night

[quick mist]

There is a shell script in the install directory you picked. Run that script.

[sturdy swift]

Check the instructions for SteamCMD to install it, then the instructions for launching the server on Linux.

Setting it up as a service is optional.

[fluid turret]

I had a 100mb save and task manager said it was only 1.5gb of ram usage

[balmy glacier]

./FactoryServer.sh its in the wiki

[snow belfry]

i mean its fine that people run docker. not saying its not good, just saying it is not "necessary" if you dont want it. For me its more fun setting up with screen and writing my own restart script. But honestly, whatever people like.. as long as it works no ?

[latent bloom]

I didn't walk much yet, i guess it didn't load the rest of the builds yet

[tacit finch]

Yeah sure I like to write my own DockerFiles ^^

[snow belfry]

i bet some people run satis server on a windows machine^^ even on a server with win10 installed

[jovial warren]

If you like Docker and want to go full send... then just spin up Kubernetes 🤪

[tacit finch]

great for Minecraft Servers with waterfall functionality 😄

[snow belfry]

as long as they are fine with it 😄 i say go ahead

[dark idol]

but nothing happens when i do that when i am logged in on steamcmd

[brisk parrot]

whats the max players on a dedicated server currently

[quick mist]

by default four

[manic hatch]

4 players

[fluid turret]

how ever many you can hold

[snow belfry]

you dont run the factoryserver from steamcmd

[sturdy swift]

TL;DR:
$ apt-get install steamcmd $ steamcmd +login anonymous SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit $ cd ~/.steam/steamapps/common/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/ $ ./FactoryServer.sh

[fluid turret]

Default is 4 but you can set it to whatever you want

[balmy glacier]

exit steamcmd

[balmy glacier]

you forgot the ./

[bleak oar]

hey guys is there someone i can talk to about a bug ive found in the satisfactory dedicated servers?

[sturdy swift]

Thanks. 🙂

[manic hatch]

Believe you can post about bugs here https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[faint wagon]

wait, i saw docker talk, is there a docker container out there already?

[sturdy swift]

No but you can create one yourself.

[bleak oar]

yes there is a docker container already built

[latent bloom]

So you guys say it might be normal that it needs 5 minutes and serveral tries to join this world?

[faint wagon]

@sturdy swift i've never done that, only worked with docker compose mostly 😅

[snow belfry]

i personally always tell people to do the commands one after another instead of chaining them, the reason is simple.. copy pasting makes you learn "nothing" its better to know what you are actually doing when entering commands and why

[sturdy swift]

Oh they did put it out already?

[bleak oar]

just use the docker container already out there

[faint wagon]

@bleak oar is it on docker hub?

[manic hatch]

Pterodactyl uses docker to manage game servers and they have a configuration for satisfactory. Also there's this but I haven't tried this one out https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server

[sturdy swift]

I assumed it would take a few more days.

[bleak oar]

cant link it but yes

[alpine skiff]

Will this error stop me from making a good connection? I'm not sure what it means, but it seems important

[bleak oar]

its actually been out for a long time

[fluid turret]

No error will stop you unless it does

[alpine skiff]

True

[fluid turret]

ignore all errors unless the server is not working

[bleak oar]

cant post links but there is the link to the docker

[quick mist]

heck that's how things work in Production too

[snow belfry]

error: your PC is on fire ? Ignore ? Y/N

[bleak oar]

Ich777 is incredibly well known and his dockers are safe. i would not use anyone elses unless you wanna look thru it for security issues first.

you can use that docker and just put in the steamID

[lofty latch]

Someone pinged me?

[manic hatch]

sorry that was me. I wanted to ask you about enterprise stuff

wanted to friend you

[lofty latch]

Hop into the cubecoders discord, friend requests and DMs are turned off for me

Otherwise I get swamped.

[brisk parrot]

so how do you increase the max number of players? anyone know, would save me a ton of time looking 🙂

[fluid turret]

same as normal multiplayer
Game.ini

[/Script/Engine.GameSession]
MaxPlayers=69

[quick mist]

Game.ini

[/Script/Engine.GameSession]
MaxPlayers=X

[meager summit]

banned

no cheat codes allowed

[fluid turret]

you with your syntax highlighting

[meager summit]

```ini ```

[fluid turret]

I know lol

[meager summit]

no being lazy ;DDDD

[fluid turret]

imagine just putting the wrong one

javascript

[oblique zenith]

69 players
Nice

[meager summit]

disgustang

[snow belfry]

don't listen to joshie ❤️ only a pioneer because joshie asked jace 1000 times and was added out of pity

[meager summit]

@grim thunder tell them its a lie ^

tell them im the best community member thats always so very helpful

[snow belfry]

yeah thats actually true the very helpful part.. "best" is debatable 😄

[meager summit]

[oblique zenith]

what's the default autosave interval for the dedicated servers again? someone said 5 min?

[misty sentinel]

either 5 or 10

[quick mist]

5m plus when a player disconnects

[misty sentinel]

Felt like 10 tho