dedicated-servers

[full nacelle]

im trying ot add a couple mods and the mod manager wont connect to the server bc of the SSH key actively failed

[civic lantern]

I dont recall how SMM deals with keys.
I am very sure I just set a password and gave it to SMM

Since the only thing that logs into the account is SMM this is fine

[full nacelle]

damni i figured it out it was bc i had the satisfactory up but i was at the main menu though

once i closed it it connected wow lol

[civic lantern]

Ya. When changing or installing mods you need to stop and start both client and server.

SMM does not know how to do this

[full nacelle]

yeah i see that now thanks though

[prisma nova]

odd, thought that might have been the issue

[quick badge]

why not?

[deep turret]

#1201555265942724758

[glad nest]

because that is a windows only issue and its not fixed yet

[quick badge]

oh ok

is there any way to like do it with a virtual machine?

[quick badge]

thats running linux?

[glad nest]

?

[quick badge]

like can a do it from a windows pc still

my server is on win 10

[glad nest]

well yeah

you can install a linux virtual machine i guess

personally I wouldnt recommend it too much as it will add an additional overhead

but i know some people have had success doing so

[quick badge]

im doing it with powershell

instaling it of the microsoft store and running it

setting up zerotier now

[quick badge]

uhm

help

[hidden forge]

Check UDP connection

[ancient bison]

Hi all! Do we know if there are any plans on the foundational removal glitch being patched? Occasionally, when trying to remove some foundation, it visually won't go away until you've left and rejoined the server 🤔

There's this post that talks about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fhgayt/foundation_bug_for_servers/

[quick badge]

Will do

[vast lagoon]

I have noticed this not just for foundations but other items as well

[quick badge]

it still doenst work

[hidden forge]

you're running a vm now? what hypervisor?

[quick badge]

no ideia

i just installed ubunto from the microsoft store

and did it from there

[hidden forge]

ah, WSL then

open WSL Settings, set Network to Mirrored mode, restart WSL, then run "ip a" inside the linux install and try to conenct to that IP

[quick badge]

where do I open that?

cant find it

oh i gotta create it

my server is on win 10

[quick badge]

so I cant do that network setting

[hidden forge]

if you got ubuntu from the MS store it's a WSL instance. then you should have a "WSL Settings" app too now

[quick badge]

yes i do

any other setting I should change?

Do you want the log?

it just says Idle still

maybe its this?

[merry flame]

where resell servers with mods?

need

[lilac vector]

got a question about "desync" where I'll delete and object and it'll stick around on the client but not the server. Is there a way to force-reload the world from the server without logging out and then in again?

[deep turret]

what do you expect from "reload" that doesn't involve being kicked out the game then loading it again ?

[lilac vector]

syncs objects between the server and client

[deep turret]

it should do normally
if it's not doing and you want a reload
then it does mean getting out the game and re-loading it

[lilac vector]

ok. it wasn't doing so normally so i was wondering if i could without relogging. guess not, oh well

[deep turret]

my point is "relogging" is exactly what you mean by "reloading"

[cold narwhal]

Modify the network parameters to ensure that desync doesn't occur. Try changing network quality settings

[ancient bison]

I don't think this'll fix it, seems to be a known issue/bug

[cold narwhal]

Really? Is there a forum link for it?

[ancient bison]

I asked a couple days ago here, and I've tried switching the network settings

See that reddit post and https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66e2ebb7772a987f4a8ad75e

Think there are a couple others too

[tardy heron]

i am so lost on setting up a server

my .ini settings are not how they should look

this is my command prompt but i none of the scripts seem to be loading

[glad nest]

looks like your server is starting up fine i am not sure what you mean about scripts not loading?

[tardy heron]

I cant connect to the server

I tried every ip i can think of

I cant set one in the settings either

[glad nest]

what OS?

[tardy heron]

window

[glad nest]

Make sure your firewall is allowing the traffic, and check the ip of your server and connect to that

[tardy heron]

I made inbound and outbound rules

but i dont know if im doing it right

[glad nest]

well unless you want to elaborate i dont know if you are doing it right either

[tardy heron]

well im running Nmap port checker

and its saying its closed

and i added manual rules

and the CMD rules

and the port is forwarded on the router

what information would you need to help

[glad nest]

lets just skip the forwarding for now and see if you can get it to work locally first

well I still would like to make sure you are connecting to the server local ip

so if you can confirm thats what you are doing thats a good start

[tardy heron]

ok sounds good

what do you need me to do or check

[glad nest]

well I still would like to make sure you are connecting to the server local ip
so if you can confirm thats what you are doing thats a good start

[tardy heron]

I cant

[glad nest]

what ip were you unable to connect to..?

[tardy heron]

i tried my local and outbound ip

[glad nest]

okay...

[tardy heron]

let me try again

[glad nest]

and that was the local ip of your server

?

[tardy heron]

the same pc im running the game on

[glad nest]

and that is your server?

[tardy heron]

yes

[glad nest]

okay

[tardy heron]

wait

something changed

i can log

on local ip

and i am admin ok so theres progress

[glad nest]

so then you only have port forwarding left

And i doubt anyone here will be able to help you with your specific router for that

but what you want to do is go into nat --> port forwarding settings on your router
set port 7777 udp&tcp to the IP of your server/game machine

and that will most likely be it

for your friends you will have to hand out your public IP for them to connect

one sidenote is that depending on your hardware it will likely be very hard on your machine running the game and server in later tiers

[obsidian hornet]

Hey there, hardware question. Has anyone tried running a server on a laptop processor like the Core i3-1215U?

The guide that states that Satisfactory Server favors high single thread scores (>2000). The core i3-1215U CPU scores 3286 on a single thread. With 32GB of RAM and an M.2 SSD, is that going to be able to run the server (all the way to end game)?

[glad nest]

depends on the cooling i guess. I am assuming the 3286 score is for a limited time while boosting

but i think it should be fine, depends how long you want to push into the lategame that is

[cursive drift]

any reason my friend cant join my server it gives him this

ive done everything. i think i have tho ports right

someone help

[hidden forge]

Are you sure you have a public IP?
Post your port forwarding settings for us to check if you want

[obsidian hornet]

As per CPU Benchmark that's an average score with over 1000 samples. I hadn't considered the cooling factor so I'll look into that.

Not really planning on going crazy late game, just a few blueprint optimizations.

[arctic frigate]

have the same problem

[arctic frigate]

also am using a public ip and port forwarding is done correctly

first had the problem tried everything thaught eventually installing it new from the ground would help, it didnt

[glad nest]

check if your port is actually open
canyouseeme.org

[arctic frigate]

yes

it is

the udp and tcp

[glad nest]

and the server is working locally?

[arctic frigate]

im hosting on my server which is standing beside me, tho i cant joing it or anything else

after reinstalling dedicated servers

till now i didnt even got to "claim" it

[glad nest]

logs?

[hidden forge]

you cant even join locally?
do you use the local or public IP?
if the second, try the first

[arctic frigate]

yea

not even with local ip i can connect

[hidden forge]

what does the console show?

[arctic frigate]

if your thinking if it did even start, yes it did

[hidden forge]

check the firewall on the server then

[arctic frigate]

i even tested it with firewall disabled and it didnt work

[hidden forge]

you do try to join over server manager right? not multiplayer

IPv4, IPv6 or DNS?

[arctic frigate]

yes

IPv4

[hidden forge]

can you try to check the conenction with this powershell command?
Test-NetConnection <IP> -Port 7777

[arctic frigate]

i fixed it

i had multiple lan cables in my server

i just unplugged all ecxept 1

it worked

even multihime with multiple lan cables didnt work

but just using 1 lan cable works

[cold narwhal]

Still need help?

[cold narwhal]

Your server address must be the same as your Public (boundary) IP address. Multihome does not work unless your boundary DNS server routes the appropriate DST and Port to the internal device providing the service that is trying to be reached. You use multi-home when your internal IP will be the same as your Server IP, in situations where you host on the same device that you plan to connect with as a client.

[glad nest]

I am not sure if i fully agree with you, while somewhat correct

1. "Your server address must be the same as your Public (boundary) IP address."
   Your server's publicly advertised address (what clients connect to) must be your public IP, but the server itself can run on a private/local IP behind a NAT router. Port forwarding allows external connections.

2. "Multihome does not work unless your boundary DNS server routes the appropriate DST and Port to the internal device providing the service that is trying to be reached."
   A "boundary DNS server" isn't a common networking term. Usually, port forwarding on the router/NAT device is what determines traffic flow, not DNS. DNS will never control routing or port forwarding.

3. "You use multi-home when your internal IP will be the same as your Server IP, in situations where you host on the same device that you plan to connect with as a client."
   "Multihome" is used to decide which LOCAL network interface to use if you have multiple and that should in most cases be able to solve his issue with having multiple interfaces active.

[deep turret]

your server will always run on a local ip

because your server is always local to the machine it runs on

ngl this sounds like you thought it would help to copy past some ai prompt hallucination

basic rule : NEVER spread ai generated content unless explicitly being asked for

[deep turret]

did you double check your syntax was ok ?
did you check listening port list ?

[cursive drift]

naw i gave up gonna rest a server from a webste for like $15 s yeay and use that

[arctic frigate]

Yes i checked everything and tried everythint, but it works now so i dont need any more help

[acoustic pecan]

What do I need to copy to move my world to a different server?

[hidden forge]

Go to old Server manager, download save
Go to new Server manager, upload save

[acoustic pecan]

thanks

[timber escarp]

hello
which ports do need to be opened in the firewall settings ?
all the yt tutorial add 3 port numbers but in the wiki it says
As of Patch 1.0, port numbers 15000 and 15777 are no longer used. At all.

[hidden forge]

port 7777 by default, protocols TCP and UDP

[autumn rampart]

anyone having problem updating thier dedicated server?

Game version: 385279 | Server Version: 368883

[rugged wren]

Hi, if I wanted to change the listening port to work with a vpn, what is that line you need to add to your config file? There is no specific line on https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files

I would assume it needs to go into SatisfactoryDedicatedServer\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer\GameUserSetting.ini

Just not familiar with the line it should be. Maybe "Port=XXXXX" or something like that?

[hidden forge]

Just pass "-Port=XXX" as a launch argument

[real stone]

Hello guys, im having issue with a server rent on nitrado.

We are two playing, on phase 2 so not a lot of building for now. The server start at 30 ms but quickly increase to 70 MS when we play. It can sometimes reach 200/300ms for unknow reason (outside of the automatic save period).

I upgraded the bandwith to the max value, the ticket is at 30 in average. Bandwith set to ultra, i really don't understand how i can improve this...

Server set in UK.

Thanks if you see something dummy i forgot

[novel spear]

whats your bandwidth up and down and also your latency to your provider? make sure you say the right bit of Byte

It makes big difference

[novel spear]

depends on the type of VPN since some have automatic port forwarding enabled already some you might have to configure

[real stone]

Latency to the IP of the server is 22ms.

Bandwith is 186 Mbits/s / 53 Mbits/s

[novel spear]

whats yours to your provider?

[real stone]

15ms

currently 100 ms on the satisfactory server

[novel spear]

what bandwirth is on the server

[real stone]

Well since i don't own the server its difficult to know, but i upgraded all bandwith limit to the max value in the config files

[novel spear]

is it lower for anyone else in the group when they join the dedicated server or slower and if so is there internet faster or slower do you know

[real stone]

No we all having the same issue, at the same level . Looks like the issue is coming from the game instance itself.

Sometime it can create bug like we can't create object anymore without deselecting the current object and reselecting in the building book (not sure if its a current bug or something related to our issueà

We can see the result of the increase of the MS directly on the belts which are laggy

[novel spear]

probably ay that point server related issue server might be throttling probs CPU and memory on the server lacking do you know the specs of the server and the network card on the server?

[real stone]

Not really but i opened a ticket. It's suposed to be an unlimited instance virtualization which will increase/decrease CPU/RAM if reaching more than 90% usage

[novel spear]

most servers I found doing this will only increase based on hourly to take a time scale before adapting

I find having a fixed level and paying for the increases works best and gives more customization

[real stone]

Yeah of course, but it had hours of lags so if it was the case it should already upscale. We use 85% of CPU and 4.5gb of ram for now

[real stone]

If you know some good providers let me know. Just lazy to config my own linux instance

[novel spear]

Yeah sounds like the CPU maxing out and 4.5GB of RAM aint much Id probs have give it 12GB with an 12 Core CPU would probs work

[novel spear]

Ive got my own server but it to small to run something like this and I dont know any sorry

[real stone]

No problem thanks for helping me at least 🙂

[novel spear]

might be worth going over the T&C might be able to get a refund if their services are the cause since they are failing to provide the service they offer

[novel spear]

I kinda have to know this stuff working in IT so doesnt bother me

Might also be worth checking if the server they running it on has multipe server on it as if they have multiple servers on 1 server and only a limited connection a stronger connection going to knock yours

its like whats known as a sfs

spam for service

[real stone]

Yeah im a dev too, i think i will just switch for a VPS

[novel spear]

which is basically where they have something that will constantly ping the server 10x more than the normal amount

can be a pain to get around that as well

[real stone]

Yeah its definitly a virtualization

Maybe im just on a bad shared one

[novel spear]

possibly might be putting in a request to have the VM moved to a fresh ESX

[iron quiver]

Hello, im trying to increase the bandwidth on my dedicated server for players with the fix from https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Multiplayer#Performance_improvements but adding those numbers doesnt seem to do anything, i've added the same lines to my client side AND server side as suggested. What am i missing here? Are the numbers too high or is there some middleground here that needs to be found?

it's a 3rd party dedicated server

and on both ends i've set them up as "read only"

[glad nest]

How do you know they are not doing anything?

[glad nest]

Nitrado is your issue, not even one game they host have I had a pleasant experience on their servers

[iron quiver]

On server logs it still says the same value as "Ultra" netspeed, which is 300000

when i connect the server

[glad nest]

just realized it says the same to me now, but its a long time since i needed those tweaks so they have been overwritten

[deep turret]

12core is overkill
it makes sense up to 8
only 2 are used at the start of the game basically

[devout orchid]

I've been running a dedicated server for over 4,000 hours. I'm having a particular issue. We're on a server restart all animals I deaded return to life. Is there a particular setting I'm missing or is this just a part of the server reset construction?

I tried googling for this and I can't find any sort of variable that I might be missing

[tropic moth]

wait theres servers with people in this game ?

[deep turret]

private ones yes

[round hollow]

Why is this happening? If I run my save on my local machine I dont see this issue. This sometimes can cause production number issues. Especially when the factory as a whole is doing this everywhere. I never had this issue in EA.

The dedicated server I am running is ich777's Docker image on my unraid server. I have that running directly to my desktop over 10G fiber so its not a latency issue.

[acoustic pecan]

hey - how do I bring my old save to a new server?

i dragged the file into my saves folder but its grayed out when i try and load it

nvm

[icy oar]

howdy, ive entered another satisfactory phase and ive got a spare pc, could anyone help me get a dedicated server set up on it?

[glad nest]

The guide thats pinned has been made for exactly that

[icy oar]

Ooh can you link to it?

[glad nest]

we are not allowed to send link so i am sorry but you will have to look through the pinned messages or the topic yourself.

[icy oar]

ah okay

[latent monolith]

how do i find my servers IP?

[hidden forge]

Depends on what you are hosting on

[latent monolith]

my own pc

I have a hard time making my own server

and question, can I play sataosfsctory on the pc Im already hosting on for other people?

[hidden forge]

then its the PCs IP or 127.0.0.1 for yourself
your external IP for others if you have a publiic IP and port-forwarding set up

[hidden forge]

if you have a powerfull enough CPU and engough RAM yes

[latent monolith]

where do i find that

[hidden forge]

which one? and what OS?

[latent monolith]

like where do i find the ip people have to join me on

cause now i joined on 127.0.0.1

and im on pc

[hidden forge]

external ip either in your router settings or google "what is my ip" and use one of the results
if your IP is in the 100.64.0.0/10 range you can't host useing IPv4
if not you can and need to set up your router for port-forwarding

[icy oar]

what if the range is lower than that

[hidden forge]

you should be fine and delete the message

[latent monolith]

my friend said same thing again

@untold thistle

theyre saying server name is called pending

[hidden forge]

did you set up port forwarding in your router?

[latent monolith]

idk if i did that

but i did do tcp/udp

how do i do that

@hidden forge help 😭

[hidden forge]

depends on your router. you need to forward tcp and udp from an external port to your server port

[latent monolith]

idk allat nerd stuff bro 😭

take me step by step

[hidden forge]

google "[your router model] portforwarding" and follow a guide

[latent monolith]

can i dm u

[tardy minnow]

h

[reef plover]

whatismyip.com will tell you your IP

[icy oar]

anyone mind helping me in #1038092680493801533

tried setting a static ip, got told to google how to do it,

i did it

and now my 2nd pc doesnt have internet

what did i do wrong?

[exotic oak]

Not the ipconfig??? (I know nothing about this stuff; just wondering)

[deep turret]

probably multiple things
usually you can only set a local one
but it have to be in your router network
you can set one from your router interface usually
it's the recommended way
it's usually not very useful unless you are connecting locally by ip
or your router have some issues

[icy oar]

recommended way? i was just told to google it by @wicked knot

[icy oar]

so, for my friends who are not on my local ip, having a static ip would be useless?

what the hell is this then

why would the guide tell me to do something that is essentially useless?

[deep turret]

"it's usually not very useful unless you are connecting locally by ip
or your router have some issues"
the point of the wiki is to give you a working setup
not to be tailored to your case

[lyric steppe]

The idea is to set the DHCP lease to something permanent, so that remote users outside the lan don't get kicked when the lease renews automatically

[deep turret]

In what way "Google it" is against what I suggest which is literally the thing itself

[icy oar]

okay, so, if i have an asus router, how would i go about setting the pc to have a static ip address?

is it called "ip binding"?

[lyric steppe]

Yes, that is what Asus calls this

It will set a rule in the DHCP config so that the mac address of that network card will always have that IP address. Since the network card is usually built into the motherboard anymore, effectively that PC will always have that IP address.

[icy oar]

Small problem

I did that, and it crashed my router

I had no internet, and had to power cycle the router

okay i have internet again

[deep turret]

it crashed your router or it just disconnected your interface ?

[icy oar]

in my asus app, under port forwarding, i set the external port range to 7777, right? what about the internal? guide mentions internal port has to be set to 7777 too, but its not called that in the asus router app

[icy oar]

disconnected everything

2nd pc, main pc, phone, lights,

[deep turret]

I never planned to buy Asus routers but now I definitely have no regrets

[icy oar]

wha?

[deep turret]

what is it called?

[icy oar]

theres Port range (external)
"Local port"
and "Source ip"

[deep turret]

local port is internal port

[icy oar]

my man, how would i know what asus decided to call internal port instead?

[icy oar]

thank you kindly

[deep turret]

let say you set port range 10-20
if you set local port 5
it implies 5-15 then
10->5
14->9
20->15

[icy oar]

how would i know if my router is behind CGNAT?

[icy oar]

i literally understood nothing about that, but thank you for trying to explain it to me

how would i know if NAT Loopback is enabled?

[deep turret]

you don't until you test

[icy oar]

coolio, another question, my router says my ip is something else than what an ip checker website says, what ip should i use for portforwarding?

[deep turret]

you can't choose what ip to use for port forwarding

only what ip it forwards to which is your server machine/computer local static ip

(the one you set earlier)

[icy oar]

"port forwarding allows computer service within a private local area netword, accessible to external devices. it is commonly used in gaming, security camera setup, VoIP and file downloading"

is this description accurate?

do i type these in a separate command prompt or the same command prompt that pops up with the logging stuff?

is all of this even available or needed if im running the epic games dedicated server tool?

@deep turret im terribly sorry to ping you, im just really out in the deep end here and you're the only person whos actually helped me

[wicked knot]

Starting the server under EGS will work the same as starting with the steam GUI. Any additional launch arguments will be entered the same way any other app on EGS works.

[icy oar]

okay, good to know, that starting it works the same as starting it with steam gui, something ive never worked with and dont intend to because thats not what i signed up for when i downloaded the epic games dedicated server

also, how would i type in launch arguments? i asked that, never got a response

[icy oar]

^^ here

[wicked knot]

well, it's the same coding form either source. I mentioned 3 methods blended together in the wiki page.

[icy oar]

cool, again, doesnt really answer my question

i seriously apologize if ive done something to offend you in any way

[wicked knot]

click the ellipses on the app in your EGS library, select manage, and enter the argument

I'm old, I type slow, so not big on walls of text

[icy oar]

all good, i prefer shorter sentences anyways

[wicked knot]

if someone else has already typed it out, you can readfit there

[icy oar]

Cool, "Launch options",

quick and to the point, which ones do i need?

the unattended one i know, but, which else

[wicked knot]

probably none, it should run a window with lots of text, dont try to read it

[icy oar]

Cool, what if i wanted to play with more than 4 people, could i change it to 5?

[wicked knot]

once the text slows down in the panel, yo ushould be able to join with the game client

[icy oar]

amazing, what ip and port do i use?

or just, ip

idk

[wicked knot]

The wiki has an excelent wlakthru of how to do that, not typing it all out here

That would be the local LAN IP, which I think you finally got set to a static IP earlier?

[icy oar]

fuck yeah

[icy oar]

Sweeto

[icy oar]

these launch configs, they look okay?

[wicked knot]

wont work

[icy oar]

fuck

why?

[wicked knot]

max payers isnt a launch argument, it's a config edit

[icy oar]

wh- why the fuck is in the command line options??? stupid design, anyways thank you kindly, i dont suppose the guide tells you where to find that specific config edit, does it?

[wicked knot]

In my experience, every player (client) needs to have the same edit

[icy oar]

uhm,

so that means all of my friends has to edit the .ini file in their client as well?

even though im editing it in the epic games dedicated server tool thingy?

[icy oar]

so, the server tool doesnt have to be edited?

(cant even find the path)

[wicked knot]

the default is 4, and, in my experience, it will cap at whatever the lowest value is among the clients present on the server

server config files are in teh server install directory, so they dont conflict with the client, or with other servers

[icy oar]

Alright, so to recap, to change how many players can play on the server, everyones gotta change the config file in the game, and theres nothing else to do in the epic games server thingy other than run it as "unattended" (to run it as a service instead of manual or something)

[wicked knot]

Not sure if EGS will let it run as a service, but that is Operating System side, they cant set it up as a service

again, not being mean, just not going to type out a wall of text. Google setting up a service in windows, and read

[icy oar]

okay, awesome, i googled, clicked on the first link that was from microsoft, and instantly gave up, ill just have the console up and be manual. manual is better anyways, just like in cars :)

[wicked knot]

We all started somewhere. Keep gaining skills, build on what you already know

[icy oar]

and im starting- up satisfactory to claim this godforsaken server :D

Amazing! its set up!

Small question, can i add a prebuilt world me and me friends have been working on?

[wicked knot]

in the client, server manager(ment?) you have an interface to start or load a game, similar to the client

[icy oar]

amazing, thank you so much, im gonna go to bed now because ive been working on this for over 10 hours on and its 4:20 am

[wicked knot]

its 4:20 somewhere

[icy oar]

in denmark to be specific :)

another question, if i make a world on it now, to test if my server can handle it, can i change the save later on?

[icy oar]

my bad, thank you!

yippie, my server with 6gb of ram actually works

(upgrading to 16gb tmr)

[vagrant ravine]

Anyone ever figure out what causes unreal dedicated servers to not be connectable by people on the internet?
I previously ran the Satisfactory dedi last year np then more recently it just doesn't work for anyone from the net to connect to me. And just ran into the exact same problem trying to host an Ark dedi for friends kids. My modem is set to passthrough, all the ports are forwarded on the router and in Windows firewall. Even tried launching the server as admin.

No dice. Refuses to let anyone connect to it. Seems to be an unreal issue

[icy oar]

heyo, you still here?

[icy oar]

so, shit worked for lan connections, but my friend cant connect to the server,

ive set up the port forwarding up as correctly as i can interpret from the guide

nevermind

i give up

im contacting my isp and finding out what the actual fuck is going on with my portforwarding failing

[glad nest]

First of, are you giving your friend your PUBLIC ip or your local IP?
Have you checked if you are behind CGNAT?
Have you verified that your ports are open?

[shell cedar]

Some ISP might have blocked ports

My ISP sells all fiber connections as what they call "closed". Blocks all incoming ports for home servers. But if you want to run them, just one phone call and they will set it to "open". Nothing wrong or against terms in that, just a security thing for poeple who have no clue and accidentally expose stuff to Internet

[icy oar]

Tried both, tried opening ports to both in my router app, no worky

I've verified my ports aren't open.

So that's why I'm contacting my isp

[icy oar]

I still don't entire understand what cgnat is,

[glad nest]

carrier grade nat
basicly what some isps do to make solve issues with ip exhausting
which means you may not be able to forward all the way to put it like that

normally you will be able to pay some extra to your isp to get rid of it

[icy oar]

Idk about pay extra, I'm just gonna contact them

[civic lantern]

They'll tell you to GFY, they don't want people hosting game servers.
canyouseeme.org will confirm the ports are open, or not, and what your IP is.
I recommend using zerotier or tailscale instead of fighting the Man

@icy oar ^

[deep turret]

yes
you have done it already there #dedicated-servers message

[deep turret]

Do you have multiple routers ?
you said you have Asus router
is it connected to an other box isp provided you with ?

[icy oar]

No I only have one router, I've tried multiple times to set up port forwarding, but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong

It's not connected to another box

[icy oar]

Both of those options sound like money down the drain

[icy oar]

Thing is, I showed what I did to my friend who actually has some networking knowledge, and he's confused on why my public IP ends in a 255

Because that is typically used as a "broadcast" channel I think that's what he said

[civic lantern]

ZeroTier is free for 25 computers

And it also solves the problem

[icy oar]

What is zerotier

[civic lantern]

It is an edge VPN. Devices join and are placed on a virtual private network range. You decide the network rules. Machines will communicate directly opening holes in the firewall with upnp if available or bounce traffic through moons like a tor onto with one ring. You can set up DNS that operates on this range.

A network address can end in 255 in many cases it depends on the network mask

[crisp nimbus]

Hey guys.
I have configured Port Forwarding in my Router and checked if it works with canyouseeme.org
But my Friend says, that he still cant see the server.
Do you have any advice for me?
Thanks in advance

[civic lantern]

Does it work for you on the same address you give your friend?

[deep turret]

they probably missed that broadcast address is all bit set after network address
but that also depend on network mask
on common home network the mask is 255.255.255.0 which only leaves the last number right
but on main global provider networks the network address is shorter, the mask is broader, usually 255.255.0.0
so if you have for instance 10.243.65.255 it's not a broad cast address, because the .65. is not last number of the lot
it would need to end in .255.255 to be broadcast then
and I'm not talking about classless addressing which means you can split the numbers into bit size sub part, and you have to be comfortable with binary data conversions to understand it intuitively then
having mask such as 255.192.0.0 (192 is first 2 bit set, reminding 6 bit unset)

[icy oar]

honest to God I'd rather just hop in a call and show you guys what I'm working with.

[civic lantern]

I’m at work and our mainnet is going live this week so it’s already nuts

[icy oar]

I don't care if I'll end up showing my private and public IP, I simply cannot get this shit to function, and none of your answers really helps because it's widely applicable and not specific to what I'm experiencing

[deep turret]

you dont have a "BOTH" option, when setting up your forwarding rule(s) ?
in which case you'll only have one rule with 7777 7777 proto: BOTH

if your router supports the "both" option, having 2 rules could confuse it

[icy oar]

I changed that yesterday after painstakingly spending hours trying to figure this shit out myself

It's two rules now

for tcp and udp

[icy oar]

I do have a both option

[deep turret]

it's really easy to have some part working but some other problem
then fixing other problem and having the first part having a problem now
so it still does not work
that's why while it sounds tedious, it's recommended to only change one thing at a time

[icy oar]

but that clearly didn't work

[deep turret]

use it instead then

[deep turret]

well it dont work either now

[icy oar]

Look

[deep turret]

I understand it's pita
but you are basically gaining experience there, you'll have figured out next time

[icy oar]

This is what I changed it to after having one rule with both still didn't work

[icy oar]

Fuck experience, I just need this to work

[deep turret]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

set it to both please, dont confuse your router

next it's a matter of firewall and public address

[lyric galleon]

Hi, who here is willing and can help me with the docker version of the dedicated server?

I'm trying to run the container two times since i want to have two servers running on the same Linux server.
I already have my first server running fine inside the container and now want to have the second one basically running on 7778 to adress both servers individually.
My issues:
-Everytime i terminate my first server in the webpanel and restart it it updates it, which im fine with i guess and resets all server date while doing so, prob because of the server auto updating?
-Server two is still always binding to port 7777 which obv wont work.
-Both containers are mounted in different directories and should use the different ports as setup in the docker startup command in the github repo

So I'm open to any help if you are kind enough to spare the time and energy either via text in here, private messages or whatever

[deep turret]

also double check the local address you point your forwarding rule to, is the server computer one (if not already done)

[icy oar]

Is this how it's supposed to be set up?

[deep turret]

yep

[icy oar]

It is

[deep turret]

satisfactory devs made it the same port number so you can set both

[icy oar]

Okay, if I turn on my server now, and someone tries to connect, will it work?

[deep turret]

it depends on your firewall and your public address (which one you give to them too)

but for forwarding, yes it should work

[icy oar]

Mate, I set up that firewall exception stuff yesterday, clearly didn't help

[deep turret]

how did you set it up ?

did you use the wiki powershell script ?

[icy oar]

I did

[lyric galleon]

DONT SHOW THAT

[icy oar]

Don't care

Pc ain't even turned on

[lyric galleon]

thats your router public ip

unless you set it up differently

[icy oar]

It's what shows when I google the website to show my ip

[lyric galleon]

yeah so thats your routers public ip, your whole network would go down if you get ddosd

[deep turret]

it gives lot of information on you

[icy oar]

And you think people in this server are evil enough to DDoS me?

[deep turret]

some may

[lyric galleon]

you never know

[deep turret]

it's a public server

we are 10 people having a conversation

but 50 other can record it

[icy oar]

still, I don't care, I just want it to work

[icy oar]

I did

And I can see the firewall exceptions in the firewall tool thing in windows 10

[deep turret]

it does not match CGNAT address so you should be clear in that aspect

[icy oar]

So my router doesn't have CGNAT?

[deep turret]

or I'm mixing things up

what do you router show as WAN address ?

[icy oar]

Where do I check

[deep turret]

on your router panel, you should have a tab with things like "system informations" or it shows under some "network" panel with status

it should give you some status information, basically giving you uptime, versions, and port network status (so Wan/Up port)

it depends on the router so we can't help you unless we have the same model at home

[icy oar]

Wan ip?

That's the IP I just showed you earlier

The one ending in.255

[deep turret]

the router shows the same ip ?

[icy oar]

Yes

[deep turret]

nice

there you go, connection can be established

unless your isp is ACTIVELY cutting your line

[icy oar]

So what do people put in satisfactory to join my game?

[deep turret]

in server manager

[icy oar]

Private or public IP?

[deep turret]

you add the server with <public address you just shared>
as address
and 7777 (default)
as port

on your side you should use the local address instead

but everyone not in your home network should use the public one

[icy oar]

Okay, what if they add my server and it says "appears offline" even if I'm actively on it and I know it's running?

[glad nest]

show me the compose of both containers

[icy oar]

^^

[lyric galleon]

Hi, I'm not actually composing tbh I've just been using the docker run command provided and adjusted as the startup variable in my webpanel which is basically a alternative to pterodactyl since i've mostly used to host minecraft servers for different friends but it also can run and does run every other service fine. The issue is that you can setup containerization but it still requires a startup command so my brain decided to put the docker run command in the startup command which is probably the wrong way to go about it

[glad nest]

show me both your docker run commands

[lyric galleon]

Server 1:
docker run --detach --name=satisfactory-server --hostname satisfactory-server --restart unless-stopped --volume ./home/satisfactory/own:/config --env MAXPLAYERS=4 --env PGID=1000 --env PUID=1000 --env STEAMBETA=false --memory-reservation=4G --memory 8G --publish 7777:7777/udp --publish 7777:7777/tcp
Server 2:
docker run -d --name satisfactory-server2 -p 7778:7778/udp -p 7778:7778/tcp -v /home/satisfactory/ferdiand:/config -e MAXPLAYERS=16 -e SERVERNAME="Ferdiands Satisfactory Server" -e PGID=1000 -e PUID=1000 --restart unless-stopped

[glad nest]

you've put 7778 as the internal port in container 2

that will not work unless you change the enviroment config to that port as well

try 7778:7777 on server 2

[lyric galleon]

Doesnt come up

[glad nest]

and sorry, did not answer both of your quetions

-Everytime i terminate my first server in the webpanel and restart it it updates it, which im fine with i guess and resets all server date while doing so, prob because of the server auto updating?
Sounds like your server dont have write permissions to the directory its mounted to, you're running it as USER 1000, is that the one you are logged in and starting it as?
-Server two is still always binding to port 7777 which obv wont work.
this one i answered above

[lyric galleon]

For the first one good to know i'll try to fix that thanks

[deep turret]

it may be an issue on their side also ? do they live in denmark too ?

[icy oar]

They do not

[deep turret]

hm..

are they european ?

[icy oar]

They're american

[deep turret]

maybe I should check myself

[icy oar]

Sure, gimme a moment to start my PC's up

servers up

[lyric galleon]

for user 1000 im not quite behind that. im starting it inside my webpanel on the linux server which does have root access

[glad nest]

yes but you are running the server as user "1000"

as it is under the /home/satisfactory directory I guess you have the folder own by the "Satisfactory" user and thus should probably also be ran as that user.

[lyric galleon]

ahhh

[deep turret]

it's still up ?
can you check listening ports on the server machine ?

[icy oar]

its still up

do i need to add another port forwarding for this ip address?

[deep turret]

if you set the SINGLE forwarding rule with BOTH protocol then no

but make sure that rule is active and no other rule are

[icy oar]

its the only rule active

[deep turret]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Is_the_server_listening_on_the_correct_ports?

[icy oar]

you want me to check using that instead?

[deep turret]

it's not the same thing

here is to check what's going on with your server

it's not a router thing

[icy oar]

okay, i copy paste the command into powershell, right?

[deep turret]

also 192.168.50. is a bit weird imo, but why not as long as your server pc is showing that in ipconfig

[deep turret]

you can yep

[icy oar]

absolutely nothing happened

[deep turret]

that's on your server machine ?

[icy oar]

do i need to run it on the same machine?

[deep turret]

yes ofcourse

it's about your server

[icy oar]

didnt know that

[deep turret]

my original message about it

[icy oar]

my bad

[deep turret]

do same but with TCP now

[icy oar]

alright

[deep turret]

(second part in the wiki)

ok now do ipconfig

[icy oar]

on server machine?

[deep turret]

to see if your actual server machine ip is machine the forwarding rule

yes

btw the firwall rules are on the server machine too

[icy oar]

they're only on the server machine

[deep turret]

then there is definetly some fuckery from your isp

[icy oar]

knew it

[deep turret]

public address is checked
forwarding is checked
ipconfig is checked
firewall is checked
server state is checked

no hole in the line

[glad nest]

Is the asus router your only router

[icy oar]

yes

[deep turret]

I already asked, and the Asus wan match the public address

[icy oar]

i live in 24m2 apartment, i dont need another router, nor do i have the money for another router

[glad nest]

if you connect to your public ip from your internal network

does that work

[icy oar]

thats a good question, havent tried that

[glad nest]

if that does work, but outside does not it could indicate isp issues
but it may also not work if your router does not support loopback

[icy oar]

it does

[glad nest]

then yeah

your isp is probably blocking traffic on that port

[icy oar]

it starts up and recognizes instantly

[deep turret]

New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Allow Satisfactory default inbound port udp" -Direction Inbound -Action Allow -EdgeTraversalPolicy Allow -Protocol UDP -LocalPort 7777
New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Allow Satisfactory default inbound port tcp" -Direction Inbound -Action Allow -EdgeTraversalPolicy Allow -Protocol TCP -LocalPort 7777
```was this the firewall script you used ? (https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Port_Forwarding_and_Firewall_Settings)

[icy oar]

yes it is

[glad nest]

If you connected with your public IP locally and that worked successfully
then your issue is outside of what you control

[deep turret]

you could try an other port manually

[icy oar]

im gonna try logging into my isp's website

see if theres any settings i have there

[lyric galleon]

actually not, tbh i made it as root since im prob not the smartest man with that

[glad nest]

make sure you are running it as a user with permissions atleast and you should be able to save your progress

[lyric galleon]

so making one satisfactory user, giving the two servers that pgid and making sure it can read and write those two directories i should be good to go?

[icy oar]

okay on my isp's website, i can add more devices, the one device thats already on there is my router, which has the public ip ive showed you, and it says the firewall is closed (translated might be something akin to active instead of "closed" but its closed to the outside world i think)

[deep turret]

ok make sense as some sort of protection if you can use your own hardware, since your asus router firewall should be up (you can check that if you want though)
you can set your isp firewall as open

[glad nest]

pretty much

[deep turret]

or if you can allow a specific port, then setup the same as your forwarding rule

[icy oar]

my asus firewall is up, with some sort of "ai protection"
so i should contact my isp about getting the firewall removed from their end?

[deep turret]

you dont have the option in the per device settings ?

[icy oar]

i do not

[deep turret]

then yes, probably

[icy oar]

thats what i see

[glad nest]

sounds like a interesting solution for a ISP

[icy oar]

its in danish so

[icy oar]

yeah idk man

[glad nest]

how do you get network to your router

[icy oar]

through a rj45 port on my wall

or whatever an ethernet port is called

[glad nest]

makes sense

[deep turret]

lukket/closed literally means it is restrictive

i.e it's not your router that rules

your isp takes precedence

so if you dont have option, you could contact your isp

they may tell you they will not though

in which case you will have to use other (reverse) forwarding services
such as vpn like zerotier

[icy oar]

okay quick call later,

[glad nest]

im just curious as the ip address ends with .255 that is normally reserved in every subnet for something else

[deep turret]

no

[glad nest]

but may be a completely different case for public ips i dont know

as they use larger subnets

[icy oar]

and it turns out, they wont turn the firewall off, and if i want other people to connect, i have to buy a static public ip from them for 20kr a month

[deep turret]

#dedicated-servers message

[glad nest]

ah you've already gone through that right

sorry

[lyric galleon]

thats crazy, i get a dynamic ipv4 for just calling for free and that thing hasnt changed in two years

[glad nest]

same here but some isps just dont want people hosting their own shit

my last isp was crazy about that as well

[icy oar]

im not spending that on a static ip, so how does zerotier work? do other people need it to connect on my server? does it only need to be set up on my server pc or some other machine first?

[deep turret]

the point is people can't connect to your home
but your home can connect elsewhere

so you set up a service so your server connects elswhere instead, but people can connect from elsewhere to your server virtually

[latent monolith]

hey i cant seem to figure it out

[deep turret]

what is this ?

[latent monolith]

can anyone help me

[icy oar]

thats ZeroTier

[deep turret]

there are multiple things

it needs to be setup

[deep turret]

^

[icy oar]

you're saying it like i already know what, when, how and why everything works

[deep turret]

I'm explaining things while you screenshot first thing you clicked on
so please dont share random things

it have a beginning

[icy oar]

my bad

[deep turret]

especially your network ids

it's even more dangerous with things like zerotier

[icy oar]

its nto connected to anything though

i just pressed create a network

[deep turret]

not yet

but could

as I was explaining zerotier is a service that allow anyone to forward to your internal network after your internal network publicly connects to the zerotier service (which you can because your isp allow that way otherwise you would not have any internet connectivity)

but you have to setup that service on your server machine

[icy oar]

respectfully, i do not need to know how it works, i just need to know that it could work

[deep turret]

I'm not used to work with zerotier myself though, so I dont know all the steps to set it up
I simply know How it works

but basics is :
you install the zerotier service on your server machine,
you set it up
then you tell it to connect to whatever other point elsewhere you want to tunnel to your server machine
and that other point also may need setup, and that way people can connect to your server from the other point

[glad nest]

zerotier will work but it is also opening up "local" (not local) traffic to more people than necessarily are on your same network...
it should be safe but you can configure it out to be very much not.

[deep turret]

the other side may be your friend

[icy oar]

there is one person on my network, me

[deep turret]

that's why I say DO not share Ids, and it Needs to be setup correctly

[deep turret]

no there are multiple service running

there is your server computer, other computers etc

[glad nest]

with zerotier there may very well become quite a lot of people and that is where it gets scary

[icy oar]

wdym

[deep turret]

and if they are configured as relay they are pretty much potent things

home network hacking ABC

[icy oar]

why would someone else join my zerotier network

[deep turret]

it's not for no reasons the main attack vectors are ip cameras

[icy oar]

i dont have any ip cameras

[deep turret]

because you gave them access, and they can basically do whatever they want from INSIDE your home

[glad nest]

i am just saying you don't want to just get "zerotier" working, you will want to learn the A, B's and C's of it before just running it on your private network

[icy oar]

why isnt there a simple solution to this shit

[glad nest]

if you dont want to learn it you should not use it tbh

[deep turret]

the simple solution would be your isp not to screw you

[icy oar]

why do i have to become a fucking networking asshat to run a simple satisfactory server

this fucking sucks

im gonna do it anyway

[deep turret]

game server providers services does not exist for no reaons

it works around all these issues for a home user

[icy oar]

id rather have the ability to run the server on my own machine, and then have a program just figure out all of the backend stuff for me

[icy oar]

money

[glad nest]

then you would want to learn how to make it secure

[deep turret]

demands

[icy oar]

Fuck making it secure, i just need it to fucking work

[glad nest]

personally i'd just throw the 2$ a month to get a static ip

and you'll be set

[icy oar]

2?

[glad nest]

yes 20 DKK is about 2$ no?

[icy oar]

its almost 3 dollars

[glad nest]

i'd even throw 5$ to it lol

[icy oar]

its still 20kr beyond my normal payment of 199, im already working with a very limited budget

still thats not the point, i just want this to work

[glad nest]

well

then go zerotier and set it up as you want

that should work

if you dont care about security it should be easy to get an a-b-c guide on google you're not the first one to set it up for sure

[deep turret]

anyway I helped diagnosing
we pointed the issue
you done the isp offering research
we guarded you TO BE CAREFULL WITH YOUR network, the attacks are even AUTOMATED these days, you may even be flagged as a zombie network by european regulators after that
take care of your stuff

[icy oar]

wha?

dude if anything happens i just pull the plug

cant do shit if shit aint connected

[glad nest]

I miss beign so naive...

[deep turret]

if anything is performed from you network, then it willl continue as soon as you replug the netowrk

and it's not obvious

you will usually not get any phone call for your isp explaining you how your device had been part of an attack

you can avoid that by being carefull

[icy oar]

fuck you too i suppose, not my fault you guys want me to basically become proficient in networking just for a simple satisfactory server, its unnecessary

[deep turret]

but being careless certainly have huge impact on that stuff

you are the one claiming it's "unnecessary"

[glad nest]

its not even proficient in networking

[icy oar]

"Disable" networking adapter, would that not stop anything coming through zerotier?

[glad nest]

its just taking security precautions which you should always do on the internet anyway

[deep turret]

again, if online game services exist is because not all people will be proficient, yet want a network server

[glad nest]

and especially when exposing services

[icy oar]

i want a GAME server

[glad nest]

so learn to then

or do p2p like most others

[deep turret]

either you learn to, or buy it out there

[glad nest]

I am sorry that you are lazy to learn

but that is not our problem

[icy oar]

the amount of sass i am getting from you guys is immense

just because i just want it to work, and not have to learn a billion things in the process

[glad nest]

now i am starting to recognize you

[deep turret]

just wanting will not make it real

[glad nest]

did you not come here 4 months ago as well

asking the exact same thing lol

also starting to harass anyone helping you

[icy oar]

right, because i thought you guys wouldve changed into something more helpful than "fuck you go learn it yourself dipshit"

this isnt a help discord server, when you're not offering to help

[deep turret]

do you want me to ask for a pay for all the time I just lost writing detailed explanations to you ?

did I ?

[glad nest]

realized it was way longer than 4 months ago

i am getting old..

[icy oar]

detailed? explanations? i didnt ask for that, i wanted you to tell me how to set it up, not explain to me how i do it myself

[deep turret]

"tell me how to set it up" "not explain to me how"

face yourself to a mirror or something

[icy oar]

"not explain to me how i do it myself"

you missed a crucial thing there

[glad nest]

ur solution is 1. pay 3$ a month to your ISP
2. set up zerotier, i would recommend reading up on it but do whatever you want

2 will be free and easy

there you go

[deep turret]

you missed the crucial things that "i wanted you to" so YOU are asking to do things

the negative self awareness is getting big

you are the one we are talking to since 1 hour ago

[glad nest]

this is how the world works, if you dont want to learn you pay someone else

time = money

how it should be

we are here helping you for free

[deep turret]

^

[glad nest]

you should stop with your demands lol

[icy oar]

id hardly call it helping tbh

[glad nest]

we cant do it for you, sorry

[icy oar]

its been nothing but google this, google that, learn that yourself, read a tutorial, read the guide,

[glad nest]

i guess someone would if you would pay

[deep turret]

if your definition of help goes along the same line as "I want you to tell me but not to explain me to" then your definition of help is void

[icy oar]

help and help to learn are two different things

i wanted you to help me

not help me learn

[deep turret]

quote me on that for a laugh ?

[glad nest]

why should we explain thigns to you that are already made guides for lol

[icy oar]

i can quote shadetree doing the exact thing 8 hours ago

[glad nest]

do you also invent the wheel over and over again

[deep turret]

you are the one wanting to do things
you are the one asking how
you are the one in a position to help yourself
we are providing informations to you
you want to ignores these informations we provide you with
then you get angry against us for "not providing help" wtf

[icy oar]

a singular guide, mashed up with 3 different outcomes, mixed in such a way that is incredibly difficult to distinguish what you actually need to do, with tons of if's and but's

[icy oar]

you're missing the point here, i do not want to learn it myself, i just want it to work

[glad nest]

I also want to be an excellent chef

but turns out i need to learn that as well.

[nimble night]

For real Catto. If you want to host a server, whether it's a game server or whatever, you NEED to understand(!) what you are doing, i.e., you need to be able to EXPLAIN what YOU are doing. Or else you are a danger for yourself and every other people on the Internet sooner or later.

[icy oar]

Why?

why do i need to understand what im doing?

[deep turret]

You are missing the point here
: if you continue to yell that you want it to work without doing anything for it to work yourself then you are just spamming this channel for no reason
and may end up granting yourself a ban

[nimble night]

Because you will be hacked after some time and then your system is used to hack other systems.

[icy oar]

why are you so sure of that?

[nimble night]

Because that is what happens all day long worldwide.

Everywhere. Anytime.

[glad nest]

you are literally willing to set up something that may very well expose your local internet fully to the public just to get it to work

[nimble night]

DDoS networks for example are hacked devices, computers, IoT devices, servers, whatever.

[glad nest]

ofcourse we are sure about that...

[crude lintel]

this is getting good, keep going guys 😄

[icy oar]

the only people who will be connecting to my game server are my friends no one else, how would that make my pc vulnerable?

[glad nest]

you say that because you have still not bothered even reading what zerotier does / can do

[nimble night]

In the best case only your internet and your devices become painfully slow because they are used without your knowing for hacking and attacking other devices. In the worse case, your traffic is monitored, like when you login into your social or bank accounts, and the passwords are copied from you. Then you might loose money and friends.

[deep turret]

not if you provide informations of how to connect, to public social network channel (i.e HERE for instance)

[crude lintel]

because you will be broadcasting your ip address to the whole wide world without any DDOS protection or other measures.

[icy oar]

my router has that

[deep turret]

zerotier is basically you setting up a BYPASS

[nimble night]

Unfriendly people are scanning the internet every time and the IP addresses are limited, they use automated scanners that simply try out all IPs and ports and after some time, you are found.

[crude lintel]

your router will fold in 5 seconds if it gets hit with a real DDOS

[glad nest]

5 seconds sounds generous...

[icy oar]

but its still going through my router?

[nimble night]

I can tell you, I get thousands of hacking attempts on my servers every day. None succeed, but they would if I did mistakes and not understand what I do.

[glad nest]

but tbh i am not very concerned about ddos, that may happen to anyone

i am more worried about getting access to a local network

[deep turret]

in a way you explicitly tells your router to let it go through

[icy oar]

so zero tier just makes a gaping hole in my router

thats stupid why is that a thing

[glad nest]

if you dont set it up correctly

[nimble night]

Only if incorrectly configured.

[glad nest]

which has been what we have been saying all along

which is why you have to LEARN what you are doing

not just do it

[nimble night]

It's like with a car. Or a knife. You need to learn how to use it or it is a deadly device.

[icy oar]

my fucking god the amount of times ive seen "if you dont set it up correctly" "configure it correctly" but NO ONE can actually tell me HOW to set it up correctly

[glad nest]

if there only was a universal way to set it up for anyone

[deep turret]

"I want to bypass my isp firewall"
"ok do it like that but configure it well because it bypass common protection"
"what but it bypass my isp and router firewall then ? that's stupid, why does it exist"
..

[glad nest]

this is just frustrating lol

[icy oar]

when you add fun words like that it makes it seem stupid

[deep turret]

you never asked any question as to what configure how
you just attacked us for telling you to be careful about it, which you went after

[icy oar]

if i asked you to help me configure it, you would immediatly tell me to google it and fuck myself

[nimble night]

I really hope you understand that playing with servers without knowledge is dangerous and this is why people here want to explain things to you and want you to read more about it so that you know what to do, so that you and everyone else is safe AND that it works.

[glad nest]

In my head the common way to ask for help is

try A. If A does not work let others know what does not work and we can help
But you are not doing A, still asking us why it does not work

[icy oar]

so instead of getting you to help me set it up, you want me to set it up myself, fail, and then help me fix said failed thing?

[deep turret]

We are here to help, not to "help" /comfort oneself into making mistakes
power comes with responsibilities
responsibilities must come with experience and knowledge and skill

[icy oar]

yeah that makes sense

[glad nest]

yes, please. Find a guide, follow it, if you fail along the way

i am sure we can help

[icy oar]

fuck no

its an unnecessary step

[nimble night]

Then nobody here can "help" you by your definition.

[crude lintel]

good place to start would be on the official SF dedicated server page

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[glad nest]

we got his server to work by helping him

but we didnt help him enough

[icy oar]

im going to do unholy things to you

[glad nest]

or we didnt help him i mean

[deep turret]

" instead of " "you to help me set it up" "," "me to set it up myself"

[icy oar]

stop sending me guides

[glad nest]

Its only working locally after we helped him

[nimble night]

You people have real patience here.

[icy oar]

nitpicking what im saying, nice

not reading the entire sentence,

[deep turret]

"nitpicking" i.e the whole sentence

right

[icy oar]

you help me set it up

[deep turret]

keep yelling harder maybe god will set it up for you who knows

[icy oar]

not you help me set it up

[glad nest]

talking about reading... if you've read the guides instead of harassed us you would have had your server up already

[nimble night]

No you set it up yourself and YOU need to maintain it to function. Or you need to pay someone to do it, like a game hosting service.

[icy oar]

what if id read guides? and none of them are clear or concise enough, i dont learn anything, do i just come to you then?

[nimble night]

If you don't understand how it works, you cannot maintain it.

[glad nest]

can we get some mods in here already lol this is just stupid

[icy oar]

what is there to maintain? it runs itself???

its a game server, you turn it on, boom

works

what is there to maintain??

[glad nest]

have you ever had a game server running that easy?

[deep turret]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance

I'm getting tired of this pettiness

[icy oar]

ive been doing that since i got this server working locally

[nimble night]

No, there are updates, maybe ISP sends you a new router due to defects. Then you need to ask again because you cannot fix it yourself.

[icy oar]

my isp doesnt do that

they're cheap because they literally do not give you a router

[glad nest]

<@&387163995947270144> I am thinking we should maybe clean up some here...
This is now just becoming stupid and frankly i dont think @icy oar should have access here he clearly is here just to troll and waste our time

[icy oar]

troll? im just asking for help and you guys refuse to help me and just redirect me to a million different websites and guides

its infuriating how deflective you are

[deep turret]

you are asking for help
then literally dismiss the help we give

[icy oar]

you deflect me to everywhere but here

[icy oar]

sending me a billion guides is not help

that is deflecting me to a different source

aka not helping

[deep turret]

you are literally saying we "deflect" you to do the thing you asked help for

[glad nest]

I am happy its infuriating to you because i am sure it is to us as well
You expect us to rewrite every guide ever made for satisfactory to your specific need on your demand for no pay

[nimble night]

When there is a good guide to follow out there, it doesn't make sense to write everything here that is written there.

[deep turret]

so you are admitting you are not there to set up anything actually

it's called trolling

[icy oar]

no, instead of telling me how to do it, you ask me to read and do it myself

[deep turret]

and spamming

and eventually harrasssing

[icy oar]

what????

[glad nest]

DUDE. there are step by step guides that we telling you to use

[nimble night]

The help is also pointing you to the information that you have not yet found yourself (obviously).

[icy oar]

its not a good guide

[glad nest]

We could copy them here but that WOULD be spamming

and you would still have to read them

[nimble night]

And maybe also copyright infringement.

[icy oar]

the guide i was sent 5 times, is not a step by step guide

[deep turret]

"I do not want to set it myself" "I want help to set it myself"

[stone arrow]

i got my server working but now whenever i leave the whole thing shuts down

[glad nest]

That is a common windows issue at the moment :/

[stone arrow]

oh okay

it's not just a me issue?

[glad nest]

no sorry

its been around for a bit

[nimble night]

I think the people here that get it to work can distinguish a good guide from a bad one. If you think it's a bad one, you should maybe not host your own server.

[stone arrow]

ok thats relieving

i thought i was like

braindead

[crude lintel]

Here... Literally a step-by step guide how to set up your own SF server.
Can't get simpler than this with a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28qffd4l86g

[glad nest]

funny thing is he got his satisfactory server working Jones

[deep turret]

I mean if only they tried and not get angry at random people online for telling them informations

[glad nest]

he now wants a guide for zerotier

that does not include and information, only a step by step one for satisfactory

[icy oar]

thats for STEAMMMM

[crude lintel]

wasn't aware of that

[icy oar]

not epic games

[glad nest]

its crossplay

so doesnt really matter

[icy oar]

steam is not, epic games is

[icy oar]

its a guide, for 3 different systems, for 7 different what if's, where i have to skip several pages to get to another, inconsistent and vague sentence that doesnt tell me to do anything specifically

[nimble night]

If you understand the concept for Steam you can transfer the knowledge to Epic.

Because it's the same dedicated server and the same game.

[glad nest]

he doesnt want knowledge, he wants it to work

[icy oar]

oh really? its the exact same thing?

no different setup or different configuration?

[glad nest]

his SF server is working locally, all he needs is to expose it to the internet

[nimble night]

I know, but this doesn't work. It comes only in combination. And tried to explain, but he doesn't want to understand that. Welp. I see my issue.

[icy oar]

why does it only come in combination?

[glad nest]

his ISP is not allowing that unless he pays 20 DKK a month
we have suggested zerotier but warned him that it could be dangerous if set up wrong and encouraged to find a guide for it

[deep turret]

you are currently in a Satisfactory official server, complaining people does not freely teach you detailed information about setting up zerotier service while you actively attack them for the few informations they gave you about it

[glad nest]

that is basicly the TLDR of how far we've come

[nimble night]

No it's not the same, that's why I say "transfer knowledge", the keyword is "transfer" like in "adapt to new situation" which only works when you understand(!) things.

And the concepts are the same for all systems, only the individual steps are slightly different.

[icy oar]

you know what,

okay

i pay the 20dkk a month

[nimble night]

If you understand what you are doing, you can get it to work with any system.

[icy oar]

will you help me set the static public ip up properly so it exposes my sf server properly and safely?

[nimble night]

After all that rant you ask for more help?

[deep turret]

it should be very similar, your current public address will change for the static one probably

main thing to do will be to share the new static one instead of the old one

[nimble night]

Can I ask why it didn't work with the current public address? NAT?

[deep turret]

you see, you ask actual question, we can provide actual answer (on our own time btw)

[icy oar]

i apologize for how ive behaved, its not okay and i shouldnt have been attacking you guys, ive been losing so much sleep over this and frankly ive been awake for the past 36 hours trying to get this to work

[deep turret]

the ISP have a blocking policy, its not even cgnat

[nimble night]

Ah I see. Potato ISP it is...

Then it makes sense.

[icy oar]

i paid

pleae help me set it up

[deep turret]

so now you set your asus router info in there

and it will update your asus router connection with it

you may need to restart your asus router for it to take effect

[icy oar]

router info, just the mac address?

[deep turret]

now you have option to switch isp firewall from lukket to open

[deep turret]

I think so, you had the information in the device list earlier

[icy oar]

is hostname something i choose or is it a preset thing i have to copy paste?

[deep turret]

here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902621736602861588/1336000192100565033/9G40YZw.png?ex=67a236a3&is=67a0e523&hm=580c773866d5d318cd927d4588e92c43452402c629198b2d23a757e4e332fc23&

is it mandatory ?

isnt it like "enhedsnavn" ?

[glad nest]

thats the same thing

[icy oar]

kinda?

[glad nest]

exactly

atleast in norwegian

which should be the same as danish so

[icy oar]

i dont know if its mandatory, nothing indicates it is or isnt

[glad nest]

just put "Asus Router"

maybe you'll have to remove it from the old page

[icy oar]

it does say "static registered computers" not routers

do i maybe have to set the mac address of the computer i want to allow?

[lyric galleon]

@glad nest thanks for the help with the user it works good now for server one running on 7777, for server 2 though running on 7778:7777 like you suggested, setting open ports in the webpanel for the docker to 7778 tcp and udp doesnt seem to work atleast i wont get a ping to the server from within the satisfactory guide. Anything i need to change?

[deep turret]

it should be any device, from your isp, the asus router is basically like a computer

[icy oar]

okay, but the router mac address is already registered to a specific ip

[glad nest]

That should work without any additional configurations...
you should reach it from port 7778

[deep turret]

I think you'll have to remove it from there then

[glad nest]

on this you have the option to "delete" if you do that you should be able to register the mac with the static ip

[deep turret]

make sure to save the mac address before

[icy oar]

if i do that, wont i lose internet?

[deep turret]

so it's easy to reconnect

[glad nest]

but what i fear is that you may lose internet when doing so

[deep turret]

you may

[glad nest]

so maybe want to connect to your mobile signal

[deep turret]

^

it's a bit weird it does not simply ask you to switch the device

but it tells you it's already registered, so that means it does take it into account as the same list

so all you will have to do is remove current, and then click add static

with same mac address

[icy oar]

okay so i gotta connect my phone to my pc, tether it so i get internet, then do that

[glad nest]

i would do it that way yeah

[deep turret]

like that

[glad nest]

wiill likely make it more seemless

[lyric galleon]

hmm well interesting, the server says its binded to 7777 in the console but setting it to 7778:7777 should redirect the open port 7778 to 7777 inside the container right? Also wouldnt matter if there was the first server running in docker 1 on 7777 right?

[deep turret]

you are almost there really

it's only as it is already in the list, it says you have to remove it first

[glad nest]

the server IS binding to 7777, but you are forwarding your docker from port 7778 TO internal pot 7777

[lyric galleon]

understood, ok

[glad nest]

so inside the container it is still listening to port 7777, but externally you will be able to connect to port 7778

[lyric galleon]

okay

[icy oar]

okay i did it

is there anything else i have to edit? now that the ip is different?

[deep turret]

now on the new list you should see your asus router with same mac, but with the option to set firewall off

as you had the option there

[icy oar]

yes i think,

however

[deep turret]

you clicked opdater after changing the setting ?

[icy oar]

yes

[deep turret]

you now may restart your asus router

[icy oar]

alright,

[deep turret]

or at least physically disconnect then reconnect, and it should pick up the new configuration

[icy oar]

i turned it off and on again

does that work too

[deep turret]

it work better

[icy oar]

coolio

[glad nest]

sometimes you may need to have it turned off for a longer time

but lets see

[deep turret]

it should request dhcp the new ip anyway

if isp respond correctly it will have new ip

the old ip is only as fallback

[glad nest]

i dont trust this isp to do anything correctly

so wierd solution

[deep turret]

I like the device setup though

it's a good in-between with isp provided hardware (dual router)

[icy oar]

2nd pc appears to have no internet, but discord is still active and recieving messages

oop

nvm

windows slow

[deep turret]

the asus router may get some times to get fully back up

[icy oar]

so now, if someone were to connect to the server,

[glad nest]

first confirm that your ip are changed

[icy oar]

how do, ipconfig?

[deep turret]

with new ip everything goes to your asus router

[glad nest]

canyouseeme.org for example

[deep turret]

check your asus router informatinos

[icy oar]

checking

[glad nest]

and you can also check your port at the same time

[deep turret]

is your satisfactory server still running ?

[icy oar]

it has been running the entire time..?

[deep turret]

you are online

[icy oar]

as in..?

other people can connect

[deep turret]

this is My console

this is the response from Your server

[icy oar]

ayyyyy

so technically you could hop on the server

[deep turret]

yes

[glad nest]

PORT STATE SERVICE
7777/tcp open cbt

seems good from my end too

[deep turret]

I not tested udp but should work the exact same way

[icy oar]

YAY LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

i am so fucking sorry for being such a nuisance

i am so incredibly sorry

if i was bowing to you to apologize japanese style, id be burrying my head in the concrete

[nimble night]

Now that is satisfactory. Great work @deep turret and @glad nest! You are great people!
And @icy oar when you havn't slept for 36 hours emotions happen. Thank's for becoming reasonable again in the end.

[icy oar]

i think it might be a side effect of my adhd medicine

mood swings

[nimble night]

That also can explain things of course.

[icy oar]

im fucking crying im so hapyp im

so sorry

[deep turret]

it happens, simply make sure to not get too much aggressive on social network online next time
it would very well hurt yourself (such as getting banned or similar things)

a good safety net is to simply cut it short, and get back to it only after some rest

[icy oar]

i apologize, its hard to live with both brain damage that makes me incredibly susceptible to mood swings, short/longterm memory loss, plus adhd

im gonna go break the good news to my friends

and then get some food

havent eaten in 10 hours

[deep turret]

technical note: if you stop hosting services (such as satisfactory server, other game server, teamspeak servers, etc..)
it's recommended you switch that firewall option back to lukket

get some rest and some sleep and some food
body can't work without these

[icy oar]

okay, thank you, as soon as i stop the server, i close down the firewall, got it

[deep turret]

also my professionalism is screaming that you shared your Static Public ip here

[icy oar]

im gonna comb through everything and delete the sensitive stuff

[deep turret]

you may have the option to refresh it later too, so you have a static, but not shared to random people one