dedicated-servers

[frosty gale]

you cant just what about things like that

but if thats how you see it

[quick mist]

I do prefer to see things in context and with nuance, yes.

[bronze hedge]

I am trying to run a dedicated server from an Oracle Cloud VM running Ubuntu. I have SteamCMD installed via Box64, ports 7777, 15000, and 15777 forwarded via TCP and UDP, and the server seems to be running. However, it only says "This server appears to be offline." and "Server name pending" in the server manager.

[orchid quartz]

who is starting a fresh server. lookin to join.

[safe haven]

I just don't much care for pointless whining.

[frosty gale]

you only need tcp and udp 7777

[quick mist]

Not only do we have dedicated servers at all, we have native Linux dedicated servers. We're off on the right foot here

[topaz scarab]

where are you all getting port 15000/15777 from still

[quick mist]

can it be improved? absolutely

[frosty gale]

i fear the company that only distributed windows binaries for their servers

[quick mist]

previous versions

[frosty gale]

who would ever do that

[quick mist]

um, Space engineers, Abiotic Factor, Barotrauma for a long time, countless others

[topaz scarab]

i know a recently 1.0'd game that promised linux servers way back, still hasn't delivered
dead game now anyway

[quick mist]

V rising?

[frosty gale]

but thats like what every server uses

[topaz scarab]

yup

[frosty gale]

how do you get your server client onto paid hosts without linux binaries

[quick mist]

by paying more for a Windows license

[topaz scarab]

at least their server settings docs are decent™️

[frosty gale]

how do you even do that in windows

[safe haven]

Or you get games like the new Ark. No public dedicated servers, instead made a deal with a single server host, giving them a monopoly on multiplayer sessions.

[quick mist]

it can be done, it just sucks

[frosty gale]

dont get me started on that game

im not even going to say its name

[topaz scarab]

eve online

chess?

[quick mist]

Eve Online is a private service with no public dedicated servers so it's not even relevant here

[topaz scarab]

that's the joke

[quick mist]

I prefer Eve Offline anyhow ||aka X4||

[lucid stag]

that's not correct. public dedicated server files are available for windows...which run fine using proton. I run a cluster and don't pay a dime

[frosty gale]

they only did that for a week

the whole private server thing

[quick mist]

I blame Activision honestly

they started the trend of killing dedicated servers with Halls of Shooty

[safe haven]

Curious. Several months after its release, I still couldn't find anything on hosting the servers.

[frosty gale]

I would know

i had to suffer through making some

[quick mist]

this is two days after its release

[safe haven]

Ark in general, and servers..I'd rather not touch it. It's all a mess.

[frosty gale]

its some star citizen level shit

[bronze hedge]

I removed the other two, but it doesn't seem to have made any difference

[quick mist]

I wonder if CIG will make good on their 12 year old promise of dedicated private servers

[lucid stag]

doubt it

I'd settle for just running the game locally with no connection to the PU

[frosty gale]

shitty games

all around

[limber sparrow]

maybe you should left that "shit" game after you and wine at a other place?

[quick mist]

honestly some of the tech they're making is pretty impressive. They just did a test with 1 kiloplayer servers today

[frosty gale]

what

[quick mist]

I SAID SOME OF THE TECH THEY'RE MAKING IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE

[frosty gale]

say that again

[quick mist]

that again

[frosty gale]

👴

[lucid stag]

😆

[safe haven]

What about... a kibiplayer?

[hidden canopy]

Not not sure, it could be the admin

[quick mist]

can't test that scale until we have the Singularity

[frosty gale]

damn dude its been 6 hours

[frosty gale]

i mean either way its probably the same issue as always

no fix

we sleep

and suffer

[safe haven]

"If only they'd built it with 6001 hulls!"

[hidden canopy]

Is there a way to elevate a user to admin maybe that will fix?

[quick mist]

christ on rye with bacon and provalone. The devs just crunched out a point release and are assuredly working on more. Let them cook and more importantly let them sleep

[frosty gale]

give them the admin password

[hidden canopy]

K

[lucid stag]

so dedis run on docker....is there anything else needed to make them publicly available? don't have anyone playing with me right now (so can't test it properly) but there may be in the future with a group of friends who I played with in the past.

[frosty gale]

port forward

[lucid stag]

outside of the normal stuff

[frosty gale]

also dedis dont run on docker unless you want them to

[quick mist]

firewall on the bare-metal host and port forwarding. If you want I can test the UDP and TCP API endpoints for you

[lucid stag]

like at first setting the wing to network mode host was necessary

[tawny garden]

joined the server and all our markers on the map are gone 😦

[terse canyon]

I have a problem I'm hoping you all can help me solve. I have a dedi running on Linux through a hosting site. My game client updated today with the hotfix, but my server hasn't updated yet (it will when I reboot it). I want to force save the game on the server before I restart/update it just in case, but since my game client and server are mismatched versions, I can't interact with my dedi through the Server Manager. Anyone have any ideas on how I can do that?

[frosty gale]

hmm

can you send commands to the server

[terse canyon]

Not through the hosting site, it seems. They do have a console, but commands I've tried to send haven't done anything. It appears that it is only showing the log output and not doing much else.

[frosty gale]

try the command server.SaveGame [name of save file]

use server manager to join

[stoic moat]

i know its probrably a simple answer, in a dedicated server through steam, how do you set the port?

[frosty gale]

startup arg -Port=7777

[stoic moat]

thanks.

[chrome pumice]

ctrl+c on the console will also run a save.

[terse canyon]

just tried that and it doesn't appear to do anything. The server doesn't really acknowledge it and I don't see any new save files show up in the file structure. My hosting site put this together in a hurry on Tuesday after the release, so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't get console working correctly yet.

[quick mist]

can you connect to the Server Manager at least, if not to the game as a player?

[frosty gale]

i guess theres not much you can do other than shut it down

[topaz scarab]

revert your game client to the older build

[terse canyon]

I mean 1. I'm running through a hosting site, so I can't really send keyboard combos like that (I don't think) and 2. wouldn't that just kill it?

[topaz scarab]

requires some steam console fuckery iirc

[chrome pumice]

If you can type it should work. Also yes but it saves on kill.

[opaque cargo]

Any idea? I get the certificate pop up and accept, but then it goes to this

[open summit]

is there a page i can submit bug reports?

[opaque cargo]

running it on server

[frosty gale]

its kinda 'sus' but if you give me your server ip and admin password I can probably save it for you

[opaque cargo]

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[chrome pumice]

In game has a button.

[open summit]

i havent been in the forum since closed alpha xD

[open summit]

thank you

[open summit]

im not in game, i be an engineer reading log files talking to players

[chrome pumice]

oh then yea go to the above linked page.

[quick mist]

If you can get into the Server Manager you can force it to save the game, download the save to your client just to be safe, and then on the Console (through the Server Manager) shut the server down gracefully

[chrome pumice]

I don't think its receiving your tcp connection correctly in this case but I have not seen this error.

[quick mist]

that error usually means the clock on the server or your PC are set incorrectly

[frosty gale]

if he cant get into server manager then how would he do that ?

[quick mist]

hence the first eight words of what you quoted

[chrome pumice]

oh havn't seen any clock errors. neat.

[quick mist]

TLS/SSL handshakes will fail if both sides can't even agree on what time it is (:

[opaque cargo]

but.....the time is set same on both

[frosty gale]

thats a new one

[opaque cargo]

do i win a prize?

[topaz scarab]

but what's the date on the cert

[quick mist]

time and date? Neither host has something like the time set "correctly" but for the wrong time zone so it's actually thinking it's in the future? I've seen that a lot

[chrome pumice]

Timezone also? Maybe restart the server to regen a cert?

[frosty gale]

I set up a dedicated server this afternoon, I gave my IP and port to my friend to join through server manager, I'm able to connect just fine but he's getting a tick timeout error and cannot join. Any idea why?

[empty epoch]

My server goes offline everytime I disconnect from it. Anyway to keep it live? The command window doesn't close it just can't be connected to anymore.

[opaque cargo]

restart the whole host? or just the server app?

[frosty gale]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727

aw poop

why even allow files if no embed

[opaque cargo]

sure as shit, the timezone was set to pacific, but the time was showing correctly

[chrome pumice]

Server first. If that doesn't fix it the host. Then double check all the time/date settings.

[sweet garden]

has anyone been having a version mismatch issue ever since the hotfixes came out?

[chrome pumice]

Or fix that first then try restarting the game server.

[quick mist]

only until updating both the server and client

[sweet garden]

i have updated both and the issue persists

[quick mist]

current version is 366202

[frosty gale]

your server is not updated

delete the install files and reinstall

[opaque cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-now-we-can-finally-play-the-game-gif-26486523

[quick mist]

if your server is not updated, you can delete the server install files without losing your save and reinstall to force the update to come down

[sweet garden]

i tried deleting the files and re-verifying but ill try reinstalling

thanks

[chrome pumice]

Verifying does noting you have to rerun the install command.

[sweet garden]

ahh i see

[acoustic patio]

I want to change the time the server auto-restarts. I see it's been asked a few times and the answer is always "configurable in the server manager"

But I'm scratching my head. I see a slider for setting "restart every x hours" but I don't see a way to set the time of the restart.

[frosty gale]

thats how you set the time

[quick mist]

there's a setting in the Server Manager that's labeled as the restart "interval" but it's really just setting the actual time the server does its restart

[chrome pumice]

Its a clock not based on when the server was started.

[acoustic patio]

Ahh ok TY. That's it exactly - "interval" to me means "every x hours"

[chrome pumice]

So 24 hours = midnight server time.

[quick mist]

that's what interval means. They labeled it very poorly

[tepid coral]

hey everyone, pretty sure this was mentioned tons of time, but I can't find the "official updated" wiki where we get the most recent port 7777 as TCP and UDP mentioned. Found the Sastisfactory Wiki (org) and Fandom (official) where is still mention the beacon, query and game port that others as refered in the last hour.

If someone would give me the link, it would be super appreciated.

[chrome pumice]

Satifactory.wiki.gg

[kind fossil]

Do folks on here recommend any site for easy rental server? Or is this pretty much all people self-hosting?

[frosty gale]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[quick mist]

personally I recommend self-hosting.

[sweet garden]

yeah self hosting is super easy

you can literally do it from a laptop

[tepid coral]

thank you !!

[quick mist]

even self-hosting from your own remote host or VPS.

[tepid coral]

thanks so much!!

[quick mist]

it's cheaper and better in the long run to have a server under your complete control than to just buy a slice and very limited access to someone else's

[sweet garden]

yes

[kind fossil]

Oh shit, that is super good advice

[sweet garden]

and the hardware requirement is very minimal

[chrome pumice]

satisfoactory.wiki is the old one but is not in use. Fandom is just dog poop.

[sweet garden]

server version is still 365306

[chrome pumice]

Did you install to the correct directory?

[sweet garden]

yes

[frosty gale]

if youre using steamcmd make sure you always use force install dir if you used it the first time

[sweet garden]

is there an incorrect one?

[chrome pumice]

Most people change it on first install then don't add that change when trying to update. So they just end up with another install somewhere else.

[sweet garden]

i have never changed it

[frosty gale]

why does my dedicated server not work if I use my local IP, but when I change the address to localhost it works?

[charred atlas]

@chrome pumice , @quick mist , @acoustic patio that Restart Interval vs Time issue is here, if you want to vote it up (its a mild bug, but a UI/UX bug nonetheless)
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66e30f3b772a987f4a8adbb1

[opaque charm]

Probably haven't allowed it through your firewall. When you use localhost it kind of bypasses the firewall cause if isnt going external

[chrome pumice]

Did it show it was updating when you ran the command?

[frosty gale]

Thats the inbound and outbound rules for the 7777 port correct? I did that part

[quick mist]

if anyone can replicate https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66e32db9772a987f4a8ade9d I'd appreciate some upvotes

[kind fossil]

Any particular recommendations for VPS hosts? (or ones to avoid)

[opaque charm]

Are you on windows?

[frosty gale]

Yessir

[sweet garden]

oh wait for some reaosn the files didnt delete for what reason lemmie try again

[frosty gale]

I gave you an upvote 👍

+rep

[opaque charm]

From my knowledge that is intended behaviour as per the docs "Function does not return any data on success, and does not take any parameters." There are a few other functions like that, that only return something if it is unsuccessful.

[frosty gale]

but thats what the report is about

[quick mist]

It should still return at least an HTTP response header, not even that was forthcoming

even if there is no content I should get an HTTP/200 or something

[frosty gale]

it should send something so the request library doesnt assume the request failed

I mean its an HTTP api theres no value in saving data by having responseless commands

[quick mist]

the docs do say I chould get at least an HTTP/200 OK or an HTTP/202 Accepted

[frosty gale]

where do I add the "-multihome=0.0.0.0" line? I can't add it in console in game

like these arent being sent every second or something

id hope

[frosty gale]

nowhere

[chrome pumice]

You should not need it anymore.

[frosty gale]

dont use it

[quick mist]

or HTTP/204 No Content

[chrome pumice]

Also if you have the in game console you should be good to just play?

[frosty gale]

Not for me, I can get the server running and connect when I use "localhost" as the address, but when my friend tries to connect with my IP and port 7777 in the server manager, it doesn't work and the server doesn't come up. I've done the firewall rules, ports are forwarded, I'm not sure what else to do

[chrome pumice]

What is your full startup command?

[frosty gale]

actually I think this is a bug with shutdown

now that I realise

[chrome pumice]

Also where are you fowarding the ports. You said you were on windows do you have the windows firewall rules set + your router rules also?

[frosty gale]

the other no response functions respond with an empty json

I think they literally shutdown the api before it responds

[opaque charm]

Yeah, I realise that now after I do it.

[quick mist]

I tested the "verify my token" API endpoint and got the same: exception thrown due to null response

[frosty gale]

I don't think I have one? I'm on epic, so I downloaded the SDS DLC, did those steps I mentioned before, and now I can connect with localhost. I haven't done anything else outside of what I've said so I'm not sure of what startup commands to use/ what they are. I'm kinda dumb with these things lol

[frosty gale]

I tried claimserver and it worked fine

it also says responds with no data

[chrome pumice]

So you just run the .exe?

[frosty gale]

I guess theyre just inconsistent

[frosty gale]

Yep

[quick mist]

responds with no data means I should get a response saying "no data", not no response which is not compliant with HTTP transaction protocol

[frosty gale]

I run the exe and it pops up a console and starts spittin stuff out then I connect lol

[quick mist]

every HTTP request should get an HTTP response

[frosty gale]

theres not even a reason to send no data

[chrome pumice]

When your friend tries to connect do you see anything on console from that?

[frosty gale]

I think I saw his IP pop a couple times, but I'm not sure and he's away rn

[opaque charm]

Yeah, I think @frosty gale is right. Looking at the console the shutdown API call literally Immediatly starts turning everything off and just abandons the HTTP module.

[quick mist]

that may be true but other endpoints also throw an exception due to a null response

[chrome pumice]

If you see is IP popup on the console but he can't connect. Then not all your ports are forwarded correctly.

[opaque charm]

Which ones, I haven't implemented all of them yet.

[quick mist]

VerifyAuthenticationToken is the other example case I can point to off the top of my head

doc says it should return No Content (HTTP/204) but instead it's a null response

[frosty gale]

Do I need to forward more than the 7777 port? I have xfinity internet, so its done through the app and seems pretty simple

I feel like a child lmao I appreciate the help

[quick mist]

you need to forward both ports: TCP/7777 and UDP/7777

[frosty gale]

Thats the same as TCP/UDP correct? I have that option, or one of each

[quick mist]

that reads to me like it should do both, yes

[frosty gale]

Thats what I figured

Thanks boss, I'll have him try once he's back and report back with any issues lol

I appreciate yall thank you so much

[quick mist]

cheers

[opaque charm]

Lol, found a new bug. If you send a request to the API during startup the whole API will be broken until you restart.

It still works but will be really slow and throws lots of errors.

[quick mist]

that's odd, I was banging on the API to watch it transition from Loading to Idle on startup just to test it and it was fine

[opaque charm]

I haven't done testing on that so will see. Also i was hitting Verify Token.

[quick mist]

oh the HTTP API is known to go down whlie the server is in loading states, that's documented

[opaque charm]

I always get a response, true if it is a good token. 401, invalid token Token is malformed if it isnt valid.

[quick mist]

Lightweight Server Query API is available at all times when the server is running, except for when it is starting up. When the server is performing
a save game load or a map change, the lightweight query API will retain it's availability, but will report Loading as the server status.
In that state, HTTPS API becomes temporarily unavailable until the blocking work on the server is finished.

[opaque charm]

Yeah

[quick mist]

Last time I tested the Verify Token API was before today's release; I'll have to test it again

[opaque charm]

Ah okay, I had the same results. before the update.

This is what I'm doing for reference

method: 'POST',
url: https://${config.server.address}:${config.server.port}/api/v1/,
headers: {
'Authorization': Bearer ${process.env.API_KEY},
'Content-Type': 'application/json'
},
data: {
function: "VerifyAuthenticationToken"
},
httpsAgent

[quick mist]

if you look at my bug report, is there something you can see with my request that might be incorrect that might cause a null response? I'll freely admit I may have bodged it

[opaque charm]

I'll look

[pallid citrus]

is anyone else seeing a lot of server instability still? it seems like mine goes unresponsive after a few hours. even setting the 'restart' option doesn't help

[opaque charm]

Mine has been pretty stable

[wicked edge]

Mine is stable. Only 1-2 issues

[chrome pumice]

Yeah I have not had any issues since 1.0 launch.

[opaque charm]

I had a look at your report, I tested your code. It looks good and i can replicate the bug in javascript.

[quick mist]

thanks for taking the time

[opaque charm]

All good, Happy to help. What are you making if you dont mind me asking?

[quick mist]

I'm starting with proof-of concept tools to poke each API endpoint. I've already wrapped them into a "satisfactory ping" tool that can check server state. the next project is a Discord bot to monitor/control a server using the APIs

[topaz scarab]

you guys do know that py factory proj yeah
has all the endpoints already

[bold atlas]

what are some easy ways of managing Satisfactory servers, I have been using lgsm, looking for alternatives

[gleaming pike]

cubecoders:amp

[quick mist]

yeah but I'm also using this to learn how to properly interface with APIs myself (:

[bold atlas]

how dumb dumb proof is it? might be passing it on to non technical people in the future

[opaque charm]

Ah yeah, I've got a bot half done. then I'm going to make a web interface.

[quick mist]

cool beans

[gleaming pike]

Once it's setup, which is fairly easy, It's all through a UI. Select an instance, install, start, play.

[gilded moat]

Where’s your repo ?

[quick mist]

https://github.com/dopeghoti/SF-Tools

[gilded moat]

Bet i wanna look at it too

[bold atlas]

Thanks, ill give it a go!

[gleaming pike]

For sure, It works with probably the top 40 games you can think of that you can run dedicated servers for.

Worth a look

[bold atlas]

is it a gui installed on the server or on a remote station that links with the server

running a headless ubuntu server for this

[gleaming pike]

you install through linux then access the UI through web browser

[wicked edge]

is cubecoder amp any good?

[gleaming pike]

that's what we're talkin about now. I recommend it, yeah. It's handy.

I'm off to bed though.

[wicked edge]

is it worth migrating from just a windows server to that?

[tender thicket]

amps p good

they do linux no?

[gleaming pike]

Depends what your needs are, They support windows and linux

linux recommended

[tender thicket]

Oh yeah misunderstood their question

Yeah use either

If its a single server ur hosting then whatever ur comfortable with

[gleaming pike]

I can start a new instance of a satisfactory server in probably 5 minutes

[fluid shoal]

I'm running a dedicated server using SteamCMD from a separate Windows PC on my network. It was working perfectly fine the last two days since launch—friends were connecting remotely, and I could play from a separate PC on my network. Updated the server to 366202 today, but now nobody can connect (including me). The server manager window says "This server appears to be offline."

I've restarted a bunch of times, I'm not using -multihome= or anything else in my launch script, and I've double checked my network settings and made sure port 7777 is still forwarded for the local IP of the machine running the server (which has not been changed). Anyone else having similar issues or did I miss something in today's update?

[chrome pumice]

So your startup is just running the .exe nothing else?

[quick mist]

did the host's LAN ip address change? I am do can read I promise

[tender thicket]

Can you connect locally?

[fluid shoal]

Correct, I tried -ini:Engine:[HTTPServer.Listeners]:DefaultBindAddress=any as well

[fluid shoal]

Good question, I don't have the client installed on that machine, but I can work on that

[chrome pumice]

Don't use that the updated today made that not be needed.

[tender thicket]

Locally can mean any machine on the network

[chrome pumice]

By Localy they mean over lan instead of external ip.

[tender thicket]

Like just enter the IP of the server on the network

[tender thicket]

exactly

[fluid shoal]

Gotcha, that's how I was playing the last couple of days but it no longer can find the server. I will triple check the address

[tender thicket]

I see that you cant connect either but you never mention if you are using an external address or an internal one for yourself

Yeah thats a good place to start

[fluid shoal]

I have xfinity hardware, so my local address is 10.0.0.130:7777

[chrome pumice]

Also you said windows server. There was a person last night that could only get the windows server to run with -log -unattended -newconsole on startup. I have only seen this be needed for 1 person tho.

[tender thicket]

Does that work?

Can u hit it in a browser?

If it works you should get a cert error

[fluid shoal]

Browser times out trying to hit it

That narrows things down a bit

[tender thicket]

can you hit that address on ur actual server machine?

like localhost:7777 in the browser

I think that should work

If that doesnt even work then your server instance is frozen or something else is wrong with it

[fluid shoal]

localhost:7777 in a browser on the server PC says ERR_CONNECTION_RESET

[tender thicket]

hmm

have you restarted the machine at all?

[fluid shoal]

I do see a message in the server console log though, one sec

[tender thicket]

Since it stopped working

[fluid shoal]

It should have rebooted overnight, but when in doubt it's worth a shot

[tender thicket]

yup

[quick mist]

you're talking Windows. Rebooting is always worth a shot.

double-check your LAN IP assignment afterward though

[fluid shoal]

appreciate all the help btw

[tender thicket]

I mean i think that extends to most hardware in general

[tender thicket]

respectful, genuine, well-intentioned requests for help will always be treated well dude dw abt it

[cursive geode]

Hey guys, looking for server help. I just started to make mine on an ubuntu computer and I followed the instructions on the wiki. I got to the point of starting the server and when I do, it spits out a ton of lines and crashes. I'm assuming you guys would want some crash report, but I do not know how to find it so I would like some help please.

[tender thicket]

Starting like booting the server at all?

Or when you try to create a game?

[cursive geode]

yes, like after running ./FactoryServer.sh

[tender thicket]

How did you install it

What method, steamcmd?

[cursive geode]

Steamcmd

[quick mist]

is it crashing and dropping you back at a prompt or is it just stopping vomiting logs at you?

[mortal orchid]

Been running since release for my server, updated and now it's segfaulting, yippy

[cursive geode]

so it ends with LogExit: Engine crash handling finished so I'm assuming a full crash

[tender thicket]

rip, did u remove the ip bind fix? (assuming you had it in the first place)

[cursive geode]

also running that one command to find running server does not work, indicating it's no longer running

[quick mist]

a full-on crash at startup is somewhat rare. how much free memory is there? (free -m will show you this).

[tender thicket]

Can you find a point where it starts crashing in those logs

[mortal orchid]

I setup rinetd to bind it, maybe I need to undo that?

[tender thicket]

That probably doesn't help yeah

apparently the app is really fussy about redirection

of any type

[safe narwhal]

Im in a call with big con and he didnt stop our minecraft server

[cursive geode]

So that might've just helped me find a Minecraft server I left running from months ago

[chrome pumice]

Are you able to scroll up and see why it crashed?

[jagged mesa]

I got a server running I can connect to just fine, but every time my friend tries to connect he gets a error that says, "Encryption Token Missing", any clue why he might be getting this error?

[cursive geode]

Give me a second to stop it then I'll check it

[tender thicket]

lmfao

[river jolt]

On a windows host. What limits the playercount in practice? Have a 3960x and 256gb of ram.

[tender thicket]

access the server thru server manager not join server

[mortal orchid]

yeah that was it, i disabled it and starts up now, thanks

[chrome pumice]

It is default 4. You can change it in the Game.ini file.

[tender thicket]

Nice np, lmk if u need anything else

[tender thicket]

Defaults 4 yeah, i dont think we have a good gauge of what the uncapped limits are though

I dont think anyones really experimented enough with it yet

[quick mist]

I think the server might get Very Sad on a 20 player server with every player in a completely different sector of the map

[tender thicket]

But ur single-core performance will be the limiting factor long before your ram is

[tender thicket]

yeah thats probably a good guess, lesser when more infrastructure is put up

[jagged mesa]

Claimed he did, but told him to do it again and it wored.. I think he never really did the first time, but thanks, it's working now.

[tender thicket]

lol that happens, np

[chrome pumice]

Anybody have issues or know of issues with blueprints? Friend tried to load a blueprint he made yesterday to edit it and the server hard crashed trying to load it.

[tender thicket]

Youre better off asking in #satisfactory, did you check the QA site to see if someone has reported similarly?

[chrome pumice]

I am kind of assuming its just server issue. I looked in the #1038092680493801533 and didn't anything similar, tho I didn't look very long.

[fluid shoal]

Ha. Hahaha. puts on dunce cap. So I apparently have two installations of SteamCMD installed on separate drives and I was using the wrong one. Don't do that! 😆 Thanks again y'all—time to get back to work

[tender thicket]

Oh yeah thatd do it lol

[cursive geode]

So first, I ended the MC server to no fix, and second I scrolled up in the log and I can't really identify the source of the crashes, there's two warnings with localization, and there's a few things from CrashReportCoreLog but it doesn't seem to be about why I'm crashing

[quick mist]

there have been several reports of people in servers making "cursed" blueprints that cause the server to crash, and even cause the client to crash if the save is downloaded locally to try to fix it

[tender thicket]

Interesting, is that something scim can fix?

If thats the right name of the map editor

[quick mist]

scim has been the workaround, yeah

[tender thicket]

Cool

[cursive geode]

Anyone know the right thing to look for when trying to find the source of a crash?

[chrome pumice]

Weird. He created it yesterday and was able to use it just fine a few time. Was going to redo most of it anyway so its not that big of a deal.

[tender thicket]

Are you playing non-english? There has been a localization regression as of this patch

[cursive geode]

No, I am using English

[chrome pumice]

The part above when it starts crashing.

[tender thicket]

Idk if thats enough to induce crashes but\

o ok

[cursive geode]

Oh I am just not smart, I had to scroll further uppppppppppppp

[tender thicket]

o?

lol

[quick mist]

My dude, we're all idiots from time to time. Don't beat yourself up

[cursive geode]

So there's a few errors, including Invalid schema category lobby and invalid schema category lobbymember

[chrome pumice]

Like the crash I just saw on my server had the players leaving right below the crash.

[tender thicket]

yeah when the server crashes it logs everything in the observable universe

[chrome pumice]

Yeah it talks a lot.

[tender thicket]

Those are normal and benign

[dire summit]

Anyone have an issue as an admin when you leave the server it kicks all players and requires a reboot?

[chrome pumice]

A few people yes.

[cursive geode]

The big one is the fail to bound to port 7777, which I know for a fact I have forwarded because I used it for a terraria server, but I'm not sure if I stopped the terraria server

[chrome pumice]

Both tcp and udp?

[tepid coral]

Hey I've stopped server, tried updating it using SteamCMD but it still shows a version mismatch. It was fine earlier today, and as far as I know there was no patch for satisfactory, so why could I be seeing this?

[quick mist]

failed to bind to port usually means there's alrady something else listening on that port. use ss -plnt and ss -plnu to check what that might be

[chrome pumice]

there was a patch today.

[tender thicket]

theres a force update cmd for steamcmd

and yeah there was a patch

[tepid coral]

just a few hours ago?

wow

ok

[tender thicket]

One today

[cursive geode]

yes, what should I be looking for in these commands?

[tepid coral]

i was playing like earlier but

[tender thicket]

Like 6ish hrs ago?

Nah like 9h ago i think

[quick mist]

anything else listening on :7777

[tepid coral]

can i have the force update command

[cursive geode]

I do see port 7777 being referenced in a Listen state

[chrome pumice]

Like 10/8 hours ago yes.

[quick mist]

there's your culprit

[tender thicket]

11 hours ago

[cursive geode]

yeaaa it's probably the Terraria server, now I gotta dig through that mess

[chrome pumice]

Just rerun the exact command you used to install the game.

[tepid coral]

Command not found: +app_update

Steam>app_update 1690800
Success! App '1690800' already up to date.

Steam>app_update 1690800 --force
Success! App '1690800' already up to date.```

[quick mist]

I run a score of game servers for my crew, but I usually keep only one or two at a time running at once for that reason (:

[chrome pumice]

Lmao. You need to do some server cleanup.

[cursive geode]

Its a real problem 😭

[quick mist]

what next, an errant Space Station 13 server? 😄

[chrome pumice]

Use install.

[tender thicket]

Yeah if u run multiple servers itd be good to look into a server manager like pterodactyl/pelican or amp

amp is easier to set up but costs initially

[quick mist]

or just virtual NICs

[cursive geode]

My friend recommended me pterodactyl a but ago

[tender thicket]

I run ptero, its cool

[cursive geode]

I host all the servers for my friends because I have an extra computer

[tender thicket]

I have it dockerized so I can redeploy it if I ever need to

[cursive geode]

oooh that's sick

[tender thicket]

It is p cool

[tepid coral]

whats install command? i'm trying the app_update with validate command now

[tender thicket]

Try this v

#dedicated-servers message

[chrome pumice]

Wait it is just +app_update. Do app_update 1690800 validate

my bad

If it still says up to date then you should be good.

[tepid coral]

ok well validate actually went through and did stuff so let's see

[cursive geode]

Anyway that was my fix, to end my two other servers, so thank you guys for helping me out! Have a great day!

[tepid coral]

ok that's one problem solved. Now another hass popped up.

nvm]

[quick mist]

happy to help! Go forth, and be productive!

[tepid coral]

it couldn't connect the server API but now we goodd

[quick mist]

(how does this server not have a FICSIT checkmark emoticon?) Oh I didn't know its proper name

[tepid coral]

well hopefully the "must update everyday" for satisfactory dedicated server isn't a thing

[tender thicket]

Nah its just because the patch just dropped with no external testing

[chrome pumice]

It might but after the first week it calms down.

[tender thicket]

no experiment branch

[versed ice]

You can add the server using your public ip address and it wont go offline when you disconnect.

[frosty gale]

how much does everyones server cost a month

[tepid coral]

free

[tired tulip]

Trying to set up a server on a second pc I have, I can connect with my main pc locally but friends can't connect. I've gone through the port forwarding steps but friends only ever see "Server name pending", "Not authenticated" and the server is offline. Any ideas?

[quick mist]

Zero dollars per time unit beyond what I pay for having the host opon which to run it

[chrome pumice]

Have you done the first setup on it yet?

[dire summit]

Also host myself

[tired tulip]

yes

[chrome pumice]

ie name it add password?

[tired tulip]

yeah

[chrome pumice]

Well If it works locally but not externally, then your port forwarding is not working. I would double check that again and remember its 7777 tcp and **udp **

[zinc moon]

try forwarding by range and open up both sides of the port you are using. so if you are using 7777 open 7770-7780 etc

[obsidian elk]

was running on 2.9ghz ran bad now on 5.5ghz runs so smooth on server

it only uses 5-6gb of ram

[chrome pumice]

Sounds about right. Its very single thread heavy.

[obsidian elk]

same with space engineers it sucks

[chrome pumice]

RAM scales with factory size.

[obsidian elk]

Yeah I loaded a kibitz world and was like 9-10gb i wanna say

It seems to utilize 3-4 threads

[tired tulip]

Should I use this range for the WAN ports as well?

does that matter?

[obsidian elk]

idk if you need multiple ports

[chrome pumice]

It doesn't but some routers like ranges better then single ports. I think those routers are shit tho.

[obsidian elk]

game port query can be same to my knowledge

connect on query port

[quick mist]

what are you talking about?

[zinc moon]

what dark said.,.. range works sometimes for certain routers

[tired tulip]

my router was provided by my isp so idk if it matters either

[quick mist]

there is no query port

[chrome pumice]

all 1 port now.

[quick mist]

you use TCP port 7777 and UDP port 7777

[quick mist]

2 ports

[obsidian elk]

fair

[tired tulip]

so the port start/end for local lan ports and wan ports only needs to be 7777?

[chrome pumice]

It should be one that takes just single ports.

[chrome pumice]

TCP and UDP. So as DopeGhoti said thats 2 ports.

[obsidian elk]

I was just referring to this as context .\FactoryServer.exe -⁠ServerQueryPort=15000 -⁠BeaconPort=15001 -Port=15002 -log -unattended

[quick mist]

that is outdated and incorrect

[obsidian elk]

Yeah fair haha

[mortal orchid]

Can I adjust when the server restarts?

[chrome pumice]

I think only -Port=(#) still works.

[quick mist]

yes, it's (badly) labled as an "interval" in the server settings. It's not an interval, it's setting the time of day the restart happens.

[chrome pumice]

Yes in the server manger its a setting. Its also a clock not from when the server was started.

So 24 hours = midnight and 12 hours = noon.

Your server time that is.

[mortal orchid]

ok gotcha, yeah they need to rephrase that field

[kind shoal]

Question im using a dedicated server host and yesterday when server restart happened the game continued and then the server seamlessly reconnected (it showed it in logs even) however today server restarts are booting us back to menu. Has the seamless restarts gone away. Or was it never a thing and just my server was bugging.

[dusty sun]

Hey everyone, running a dedicated server on 1.0 and am curious if anyone has any examples for the HTTP/S api?

[quick mist]

I have, yes

[obsidian elk]

Do you know if the update modified the games ability to run on secondary IP if host box has multiple gateways?

[tender thicket]

Man has a notification setting in this channel for "api" lul

[quick mist]

I just have this laptop on one side while working today (:

[tender thicket]

lul same

[dusty sun]

Hell yea, vote to sticky that

thank you

[chrome pumice]

Define seamless restart more, because it has always kicked me out to main menu.

[quick mist]

cheers!

[dusty sun]

You working on a tool?

[quick mist]

several (:

[dusty sun]

Im probably gonna migrate to linux / docker and then start writing some stuff

[kind shoal]

Yesterday when it went to restart all clients could not see eachother moving but were moving in their own game then once server was running again it auto reconnected and then continued like nothing happened. It was honestly amazing.

[tired tulip]

so this should be correct then?

[quick mist]

work in progress (and PRs welcome) at https://github.com/dopeghoti/SF-Tools

[dusty sun]

mint dude im gonna creep hard

[quick mist]

lol feel free (:

[quick mist]

that looks correct

[chrome pumice]

I have never seen that witch magic happen to me. You must have gotten lucky bud.

[chrome pumice]

Yeah looks good to me also.

[kind shoal]

dang. It was honestly so amazing

[tired tulip]

welp still no luck. I'm at a loss

[zinc moon]

did you actually black out your internal ip?

[chrome pumice]

Might just be the restart was really quick, but now you have too many things in the world and it is not fast enough? Tho I am only assumeing out my ass right now.

[kind shoal]

like it even updated anything any of us did. Like if we mined during restart it would of added the ores into inventory and then once the server kicked back in would still see those mined ores.

i wonder if its a server setting or something with todays server patch caused it to go bork

[zinc moon]

it looks like yo upblacked it out, but that iP is internal and should be your server

[chrome pumice]

Trust me its not a setting or I would have it set. Its pure witch magic that I have never seen.

[dusty sun]

Don't want em gettin their megahurtz

[quick mist]

I think if the server does it's housekeeping quickly enough, everyone stays connected; if it takes too long they get booted.

[chrome pumice]

Are you on windows?

[kind shoal]

You think the dedi i had was just major bugging and never did the restart LOL

tbh would not surprise me

[chrome pumice]

That was also my second assumption. lol

[tired tulip]

yes

[left bronze]

I'm playing solo and I just got a message that the server is going to be restarting in 60 minutes but I'm not playing on a server to my knowledge

[chrome pumice]

Is windows firewall blocking it? Also there are external websited that scan your ip for open ports could have one of those test.

[dusty sun]

I'd disable the firewall completely to test.

then if it works just add fw rules later

[chrome pumice]

What?

[tired tulip]

I added new rules for the ports in windows firewall so I don't think so but maybe? I have essentially zero knowledge on how this works tbh

[chrome pumice]

Try and find one of those websites that will test your ports. To make sure they are open.

[left bronze]

maybe my message isn't meant to be dedicated servers but I don't know where else to go

[chrome pumice]

No I mean like more info. Are you just opening the game and hitting continue?

[dusty sun]

open port checker on google or something like that

[quick mist]

no it makes sense that you'd posted here, but that you got the message in the context you describe doesn't

[left bronze]

I've been playing since this morning that's about nearly 12 hours ago

[wicked knot]

the MP log in servers reset every day

the loggin lower left of the main menu

[chrome pumice]

Maybe its just telling you to take a break? LOL

[left bronze]

it's 18 minutes after 11:00 p.m. my time I am starting to think that maybe the server restarting in 60 minutes is just saying it's going to hit midnight soon I could be wrong

[quick mist]

I did get a "you've been playing for hours! FICSIT allows you to go get hydrated!" pop-up in single-player

[summer ravine]

is using pterodactyl pretty easy to use?

[left bronze]

oh I have I just left the game or anything by mistake I took like 3 hour break for family and dinner time

[dusty sun]

depends on your definition of easy

[left bronze]

yeah I get those pop-ups too on the left side This Server restart was on the right

[summer ravine]

far enough

[chrome pumice]

Oh I know by default server auto restart at midnight so thats why you got that message, but if you are doing solo with no server connection you should not be seeing that.

[dusty sun]

Bit of linux knowledge and you'll be fine

[summer ravine]

so it only runs on linux?

[tired tulip]

apparently it's closed

[left bronze]

that's what i thought, so i'm Confuesed XD

[dusty sun]

Isn't it UDP that you really wanna check anyways? I think most of those only check TCP which is your HTTP api

[left bronze]

those FICSIT pop up comes up every 2 hours on the left side of my screen

[quick mist]

you need to check both. My tool does so. not many web tools check UDP

(my tool is not a web tool)

[chrome pumice]

How does your router work? Is it local ip to external ip or does your isp use another private ip? Or do you know nothing about what I just said?

[dusty sun]

Does the TCP port actually get used for the mp server? I figured theyd just be on UDP

[chrome pumice]

yes

[tired tulip]

yes

[quick mist]

Both do. UDP generally for game events, TCP for transactional things from the client to the server like chat messages

[dusty sun]

Neat!

[dusty sun]

I know starlink uses CGNAT

could be an issue like that

traceroute 8.8.8.8

check if one of the hits is in the CGNAT area

[chrome pumice]

Yeah but I asked that question to see if they would be able to know that without posting their ip.

[dusty sun]

yeah fair

[wicked knot]

If the IP assigned to the router is diff from the public IP, it's an ISP subnet

[chrome pumice]

Do you know how to check your public ip?

[tired tulip]

I believe it's local to external

not entierly positive tho

[quick mist]

easiest way to see what your IP is is to go to ipchicken.com

[chrome pumice]

Compare the external ip on the router to whatismyip . org

[dusty sun]

I sense an aged IT professional

[chrome pumice]

If its different you might be fucked if its the same then back to looking at the port forwarding.

[quick mist]

My beard is indeed grey and I speak regex.

[dusty sun]

the tongue of dragons

[quick mist]

only metallic ones

[dusty sun]

rune ass dragon

[tired tulip]

its different

sick

[dusty sun]

doh

pay for any VPNs with port forward on em? lol

[chrome pumice]

WOOF. That means is CGNAT which does not work. sorry my guy.

[tired tulip]

sigh.

well thanks for the help all

[dusty sun]

complain to your ISP

[zinc moon]

who's your ISP?

[tired tulip]

Astound

[quick mist]

they fail to live up to their name

[tired tulip]

indeed

[quick mist]

or mayhap succeed albeit not in the way they'd have hoped

[tired tulip]

something tells me this was their plan all aloing

[chrome pumice]

You could try to get it working with their support but I would rate that at like a .1% chance they do anything.

[tired tulip]

I'd rather piss into the wind

[quick mist]

"I see," said the blind carpenter, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

[chrome pumice]

JK this shit is sim card based. Not cable based I don't think it will work.

[dusty sun]

oofta

[quick mist]

maybe try on an actual card and not a simulation of one?

[chrome pumice]

By sim card based I was talking about 5g wireless. Last I use equipment that connected up it needed a sim like a phone. That was also like 6 years ago it might not need the sim anymore.

[dusty sun]

WISP

[chrome pumice]

yer

[dusty sun]

poo poo

probably not even CGNAT

[quick mist]

things that are not the same, partial list: sims; SIMs.

[chrome pumice]

I think most have gone to CGNAT at this point.

[quick mist]

(also I was just making a pun)

[dusty sun]

ayy

[quick mist]

rad.

[dusty sun]

o no my private ip

btw, works between vlans. Not that I expected an issue but I have seen it before

[quick mist]

better hide it before someone finds out 10.0.0.0/8 isn't publicly routeable

[chrome pumice]

Wait what? Unless you have routing between your vlans that should not work.

[dusty sun]

I do indeed

[chrome pumice]

oh then its as expected lol

[dusty sun]

ye

[quick mist]

nice to see someone other than me post a shot of that in use (:

I'm working on getting IPv6 working on a branch; it's just about there.

[dusty sun]

now theres something I will be zero help with

I really need to dust off that old david bombal series

[quick mist]

the only thing left really is to look at the given address and not wrap it in square braces if it's a hostname when doing the TCP test.

[dusty sun]

oh yea not too bad

if you speak regex, that is

[quick mist]

which I do (:

[dusty sun]

rune dragon over here

[quick mist]

A redacted capture of a successful IPv6 test with an IP address, as presented in the README:

[dusty sun]

very cool

I guess helpful if someone has a dns server that returns ipv6 by default

or at all

[quick mist]

well that just needs an AAAA record.

[dusty sun]

If it has both, does it return ipv6 by default? Sorry probably a super basic q

guess it depends on the request

[quick mist]

if it has both, you get both and whatever program you're running gets to decide which to use

[dusty sun]

Gotcha

[quick mist]

which can cause "fun" problems sometimes

[dusty sun]

Yea definitely

I still instinctively just turn off ipv6 in windows.

ever troubleshoot domain joins for an hour just to find out its ipv6

[quick mist]

I have for example host.example.com return both but 4.host.example.com only return IPv4 and 6.host.example.com only return IPv6

it's kind of a pain to maintain but worth it

and I don't add subdomains constantly

[dusty sun]

oh thats cool, yea have to maintain 2 records per host but if it fixes it

[marble garnet]

Has the "Could not connect to the server. Failed to Connect to the Server API" bug for steamcmd installations on linux been resolved?

I just deleted my whole server and reinstalled (after app_update not solving the problem) and I just got the error back again

[dusty sun]

it must be because I saw some docker images with fixes for it

[quick mist]

usually that's due to not having opened TCP/7777 along with UDP/7777

[marble garnet]

Ah now we need tcp as well very good

yesterday it was 7777 15000 157777 all udp only

[quick mist]

yeah that was a big change

[dusty sun]

1.0 is just the 7777

or did they just do that?

post-1.0

[quick mist]

it was a change with 1.0

[marble garnet]

maybe I was on the wrong wiki yesterday? it was a different color but otherwise seemed the same

[dusty sun]

might have been an outdated community version or something

[marble garnet]

gross

[quick mist]

the wiki is going to take a while to get current

[dusty sun]

tru

[quick mist]

also there are two deprecated wikis that are still out there

[violet heath]

So I'm getting the API error still while also having 7777 open on TCP and UDP, with it also allowed on my firewall. I've updated the server and can connect to it locally fine (and have setup a user etc) but I still cannot get in externally (while testing with a VPN)

[marble garnet]

that did it thanks

[dusty sun]

Windows server?

[violet heath]

No, my install is on Ubuntu

[dusty sun]

And you said you allowed it through UFW?

[violet heath]

Yeah

[quick mist]

what does ss -plnt | grep 7777 show?

[left bronze]

I swear, I'm playing solo

[elder acorn]

Hiya! How do i downgrade my client on epic games? I was a dumb dumb and had automatic updates on and now my client is incompatible with the server >_<

[quick mist]

I don't know that you can

[left bronze]

it is 10 mins to midnight tho

[dusty sun]

10 MINUTES

[violet heath]

The server does show up as listening to 7777

[quick mist]

midnight? it's 2151! || yes I know how longitude works ||

[tender thicket]

I had a normal ip on astound go yell at them and they'd prob give u a normal one

[elder acorn]

But... but .. the server admin is asleep and I NEED to optimize factories and belts 😉

[dusty sun]

rip

[quick mist]

play locally, then upload your save when the server is updated?

[dusty sun]

buy the steam version to support the devs?

[quick mist]

I mean.. I did

[chrome pumice]

Man I believe you. I wonder what will happen at midnight lol.

[dusty sun]

Could be worse things...

[quick mist]

when it went up for sale on steam I double-dipped for myself and got a copy for a friend who was allergic to Epic Games

[left bronze]

I hope it just says oh it's midnight and leave me alone

[elder acorn]

I wish I could afford that.. Maybe I will pop over to their office with a pan and sit outside their door with a sign "Poor student, need to optimize factory. Please give me steam key" ?

[vernal quest]

How do I change the dedicated server restart time?

[chrome pumice]

If it does restart it should save. On the server it saves and restarts. You should not lose anything.

[quick mist]

in the server manger settings, the "interval" is not an interval; it's just what time you want the restart to be scheduled

[chrome pumice]

In the server manager it's a clock not an interval.

[lucid stag]

relevant: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66e3b488772a987f4a8ae875

[chrome pumice]

24 hours = midnight 12 hours = noon. Server time

[vernal quest]

Thank you

[chrome pumice]

Not sure if you made this but the server needs to restart once every 24 hours or it has issues. So making it a check box is not something they would do.

[quick mist]

i would just rather see the "interval" mislabel be corrected

"Scheduled maintenance time" for instance would be better.

[lucid stag]

yes I made that

[elder acorn]

Its wierd that epic even after all these years still havent seriously tried to get feature parity with steam. If they wanna compete they should atleast try to offer about the same features

[quick mist]

epic right now is honestly pretty close to where steam was this long after Steam first launched

remember, Steam is older than dirt.

[elder acorn]

yeah I remember the olden days of steam. I was there 😛

[shy vault]

is there a guide out there for mitigating performance problems for the 1.0 dedicated server? combat involve the monsters warping around rn

[quick mist]

My SteamID is four digits long.

[dusty sun]

im just a baby

[lucid stag]

I can see the point of always having a restart...to clear up issues. Just trying to present sane logical options for people who want to use the in game options, and an option for people who want to manage it themselves....such as with their own server management software.

[elder acorn]

Its amazing how far steam has gotten.

[left bronze]

it saved and reloaded in an instant (@_@)

that is confusing why is that in single player

lol

[elder acorn]

My achievement is bugged >_<

[dusty sun]

Does the game run an internal server? It must

[chrome pumice]

Not that I know of. Can have everybody set mobs to passive. Also if everybody doesn't have the same setting for mobs that can cause issues in past versions.

[quick mist]

even the single-player game might need to do some housekeeping after 24h of uptime, and if they just used the server code for that it might be hardcoded to 0000

[dusty sun]

thats what Im thinkin

[shy vault]

frustrating, was quite playable when i last played, though this was before the Unreal Engine 5 update

[chrome pumice]

Yeah UE5 update has made some things better and other not so much.

[dusty sun]

I've not been having those issues, have you done a file check on steam?

[dusty sun]

or are those issues wide spread

[left bronze]

alright, I'll stop pesterin' ya'll here, ya'll have fun

[shy vault]

what are you expecting a hash mismatch to cause?

[dusty sun]

a ton of stuff?

[elder acorn]

oh god im blind nwm. Its like 7 in the morning here

[tender thicket]

Does dust come out when u cough

[quick mist]

more often than I care to admit

[elder acorn]

I guess that that achievement is the equivalent to the boomer "I have been subscribed to this paper for 20 years!"

[shy vault]

yeah the UE5 update seems to have borked things pretty substantially...

[elder acorn]

Im going to drink my coffee and try to wake up! Thanks for answering my question!

[chrome pumice]

Really? It's been pretty fine for me on 1.0. 0.8 patch was pretty bad tho.

[dusty sun]

Yeah its been great for me too

Though my hardware is relatively new, maybe thats an issue.

[shy vault]

I'm running on a 4 core icelake vm, which had worked previously

could force it to be local, but then the sys-adminning becomes much worse if things go down

[dusty sun]

oh yea for servers my stuffs older than that.

Im on V4s

[shy vault]

occassionally a single core pegs

on azure now, so i can't try disabling SMT and see if that improves things

[dusty sun]

you run an azure vm for your own stuff?

[shy vault]

lol got some credits

[dusty sun]

niceee

[shy vault]

had been using GCP, but the free money is nice

[dusty sun]

Yeah totally.

[shy vault]

do people tend to be running these on local servers? could explain why others aren't seeing the same issues

[dusty sun]

I am, yeah. I have an R730 here

@quick mist I wondered what you were doing there. lol.

Have you bothered to upload your own cert yet?

[quick mist]

not yet.

[dusty sun]

im thinkin bout it, just to say I did it.

[quick mist]

I use LE for everything and probably will once I have some free spoons to set up the certificate update every 45 days.

[violet heath]

Ok, I'm stumped as to why the "Failed to Connect to the Server API" error is still happening. Everything seems to be set up properly and it's updated. (Also worth noting that when I tried the temporary fix it didn't seem to make a difference before the update)

[dusty sun]

True, I'd probably forget and wonder why things didnt work.

[serene ice]

Is there any known issues with unraid hosting a server?

[dusty sun]

Are you having issues?

Otherwise its just docker isnt it?

[violet heath]

I don't know if this is particularly relevant but attempting to go to the HTTPS API locally in a browser as the wiki suggests as a test gives this error in the console

Though connecting & playing on the server locally works fine

[dusty sun]

by locally you mean with its external IP right?

or with its internal

[violet heath]

Internal. Connecting to it from another computer on the same network with the servers internal IP

[quick mist]

That's just because your browser isn't properly talking to the API like a REST endpoint; it's trying to fetch web pages from it that it's not serving

[violet heath]

Yeah, I assumed as much but needed to check

[dusty sun]

try @quick mist's tool

actually idk if it would really help lol.

[burnt drift]

bug

[spiral light]

Hey it no longer says experimental

[kindred ore]

idk if this is a dedicated sever problem how to fix the belts https://imgur.com/a/XVXU2nc

and is there a way to up the tickrate ?

[violet heath]

The server appears to be fine from the view of that tool... wtf is going on lol

[topaz scarab]

sure, but it won't do anything if your hardware can't handle it

[kindred ore]

i have a i7 9700k with 32gb ram i think my hardware is fine

[topaz scarab]

then probably not a tickrate issue

[kindred ore]

i was asking how to up the tickrate and fix the belts

most severs run 60 tick rate for games

[topaz scarab]

well it's in the wiki

belts, no clue, good luck

[kindred ore]

i check the wiki says to use the ini file there is none

[dusty sun]

Are you testing that over the wan or internally?

Also do you know if you have loopback rules set up? Or are you testing from a different network?

[violet heath]

That was internally, I have just tried doing the script again externally using the external IP and it doesn't provide any results. Also I am testing by using a VPN though I have gotten a mate to test it on their network and it still gives the same error in game

Oop, the script finally finished with the REST API aborting the connection as it couldn't find anything

[quick mist]

that's indicating something blocking connection from TCP/7777 to the server

[marble owl]

is it possible to reverse proxy the connection of connecting to the server api to my vps?

[violet heath]

Huh, I'm not sure what would be blocking it as both TCP & UDP are open on the router and firewall

[low gulch]

Hi all, I'm trying to host multiple dedicated servers from one machine. I've tried virtualization, I've tried steamcmd, and I've tried running multiple windows users, but every time, the first instance opens perfectly normally, and the next instance crashes immediately after boot. I'm at my wits end after trying to figure this out for 12 hours. Anyone got any tips that could help?

[violet heath]

Does this look correct with what the server is listening to and what's allowed on the firewall?

[quick mist]

for comaprison this is how it appears for my host:

(I still have to clean up the old rules heh)

[peak kestrel]

Can't say for case of satisfactory, but I had similar need in the past with other game. What make me to run this is that I created multiple copies of files (copy-paste), because apparently when one instance was runned it locked some files for reading, so next instance was unable to read them as well. Don't know if it helps you here.

Another thing is that you need to use different ports in startup aguments

by default it use 7777, 15000, 15777

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -Port=7777 -BeaconPort=15000 -ServerQueryPort=15777

[low gulch]

yeah, I'm stumped here too, I completely duplicated my file structure into my virtual machine, cause I had the same line of thought, I've been working with game servers for years so I thought I knew what I was getting into, but apparently I'm in over my head

[peak kestrel]

If you using a server, try to use Docker containers

[low gulch]

I've set my args to use 7777, 7778, 7779, and 7780, are the other three not valid values then?

[quick mist]

the beaconport and serverqueryport are no longer relevant and should be removed from your invocation

[peak kestrel]

they isolate files and network completely, should be able to run multiple instances

[low gulch]

oooo

[violet heath]

Huh, so mine is the same which just confuses me further lol

[low gulch]

I'll give that a try

tyty

[peak kestrel]

may be, that was an old command that I used since 2021

[quick mist]

yep, the connection requirements changed with 1.0. now all you need is TCP/7777 and UDP/7777

[junior tapir]

YES this is happening on my server too. I was able to build a very small blueprint that contained 2 mergers and 3 splitters and some belt lifts, and when I deleted the blue print I could tell it was struggling, but I made it through. However, once I made a bigger blueprint or anything complex, immediately crashes upon deletion - whether its via the "clear blueprint" method or the "delete" while in blueprint mode.

[daring bay]

@low gulch use pterodactyl, and I will send you an egg in private which works with 1.0 satisfactory

[kindred ore]

is getting a abunch of yellow warring fine like new/old root size mismatch or warring [begindestroy unloaded none

[dusty sun]

I cleared a blueprint not too long ago and everything worked ok for me

[junior tapir]

how big was the blueprint, I am noticing a small simple one can chug through ok maybe with some lag, but if its anything more complex my server insta crashes.

[dusty sun]

Pretty small, one smelter into 3 or 4 assemblers

with the belts n stuff

[junior tapir]

ok. Yea idk mine 100% crashes when dismantling blueprints or using the "clear blueprint"

[dusty sun]

anything in the server log?

[junior tapir]

and after a search many others are having this problem

[alpine cairn]

is there any way or method that could make the server performing better on multi-cores? it still really rely one the main core speed

[dusty sun]

I have some notes in the logs on mine. Nothing ever crashed though.

[marble owl]

is this bad

[dusty sun]

totally normal

[frosty gale]

well its not great

[dusty sun]

its a rest api, not meant for the browser

[alpine cairn]

I'm using an Intel Xeon Gold 6148, the server stuck and lag but only like to take about 30% CPU usage

[dusty sun]

mine does that, no issues.

[junior tapir]

try making a more complex blueprint with many items, see if it full on crashes

[marble owl]

yeah and other people cant join too, failed to connect to server api

[dusty sun]

ports open are 7777 tcp and udp right?

[marble owl]

no bcos im behind cgnat but i reverse proxy it with nginx on my vps and thought that would work but found another way i think

[dusty sun]

yeah its not your typical http traffic

im not sure an rprox would do it

[marble owl]

im not good with network and stuff so i have no idea jumping on this one

[dusty sun]

I have mine forwarded right through and a cname set in dns

[opal owl]

are people reporting crashes trying to load games after updating both client and dedicad server?

[dusty sun]

you had a good start with the rprox but I dont think itll work

What ports can you open?

[marble owl]

its ok now i just need to send the wireguard vpn config and use tunnlto and just tunnel the game it works now

thanks

[dusty sun]

aight cool beans

[dim patio]

the game now needs both tcp and udp to be open?

[frosty gale]

it did before

all on one port now

[dim patio]

i had a server running since they became available with just udp

[frosty gale]

apparently all the old ports were udp

but now it will need tcp for the new http api

[dim patio]

so that's a "yes, it now needs tcp too" then.

[kindred ore]

was a tick issue belt are moving better and the ting i looked for to change the tick rate told me to find a ini file that was not in the sever prob was for making a co op game

[dusty sun]

This is the same blueprint, but just for knowledge sakes this is what spits out in the server terminal

[kindred ore]

its over u leak your IP

||Your lan ip xD ||

[dusty sun]

o nooo

lol

technically thats routed from a diff vlan so GL hackerz

[dusty sun]

same shit when its full of stuff

[alpine cairn]

Does anyone meets performance issue around Red Jungle (-1,486 / 432)? my server goes stuck and 1000ms latency if someone get into Red Jungle

[dusty sun]

coords?

[desert plover]

Even with a public IP hacker can't do anything so, Imagine with a local

[dusty sun]

right, extra toight

though tbh, a hacker could do stuff with a public IP

[desert plover]

No, DDOS isn't hacking, it's just kids paying in dark website, that's all

[dusty sun]

well, depends on what services are hosted on said IP

sure, if theres nothing there they can't do much.

put a wordpress site on that IP? have a good one

idc what port its on

[frosty gale]

So my server auto restarted, and the console shows finished but now I can't connect, server manager shows offline

[dusty sun]

PST?

its midnight after all.

auto-restart for maintenance. Built in by default.

[frosty gale]

Is there a way to disable that?

[dusty sun]

Yeah in server settings you can set the "interval" to a time of day in 24hr time

but you cant technically disable it. as far as I know

[tired sage]

Is there anyway to stop this from appearing in the console all the time?

[quick mist]

No, that's what logs are for: logging events

[dusty sun]

mmm events

[tired sage]

ok its just fulling the logs with that al the time. thanks you tho

[dusty sun]

You can disable logging but then you have nothing

[topaz scarab]

there's prob an engine setting ini thing for it

[exotic kelp]

how do i update the server version?
i think i have to enter some command on steamcmd but im not sure what command it is

[frosty gale]

same as install

[quick mist]

run exactly the same command you used to install

[opal owl]

after updating the game i was playing won't load now. just crashes. i can create a new server and play on it, but my old one won't work. happen to anyone else?

like the server stays up, the client crashes

[quick mist]

I have not had that happen. Maybe something happened to your save. You might be able to download it from the server, load it up locally, and re-save it to fix it, and then re-upload that to the server

if the save is somehow so corrupt is crashes even locally (which has happened to some with "cursed" blueprints) you might be able to fix it with the online save editor

[opal owl]

so do i literally just copy the save from the servers dir to my local one?

to try and load it?

[quick mist]

Use the Server Manager to download the save, then just load it up like any single-player local saved game

[opal owl]

lemme try it

[west plinth]

I've been running dedicated servers on 1.0 without any issues up until about trains, where I've noticed mass dismantling can sometime leave ghost foundations/walls on the client? is this known? or a known fix?

[quick mist]

I've seen some reports of ghost constructions; not sure about a workaround

[exotic kelp]

i tried running it but nothing happened

[kindred ore]

app_update then the id

[opal owl]

@quick mist sweet, it loaded singleplayer style. so how do i make the server use it again?

[dusty sun]

upload times

[quick mist]

make a fresh save, then use the server manager to upload the save, then have it load that save

[exotic kelp]

login anonymous then
app_update 1690800 validate then
force_install_dir?

[quick mist]

Adjust your path from this to where you want it installed. Other than that use that exact command

[dusty sun]

including steamcmd?

[exotic kelp]

i think this replaces steamcmd?

[kindred ore]

just app_update 1690800 affter the login

[topaz scarab]

https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server/blob/main/run.sh#L48
try this maybe, ymmv

[quick mist]

or you can run this sequence of commands interactively:

> +force_install_dir D:\Path\To\GameServerInstall
> +login anonymous
> +app_update 1690800 validate

[obsidian mist]

Heya.
I'm running:

• wolveix/satisfactory-server docker container
• default compose settings
• pfsense router, having forwarded 7777 tcp/udp

I'm experiencing:

• ability to connect via adding [hostname].local, port: 7777 to the server manager
• inability to connect via adding:
  [external ip], port: 7777 to the server manager.

Just before I go to sleep on this, is there a trick to this dedicated server, or is my router just giving me problems?

[frosty gale]

back in my day we made batch files 👴

[quick mist]

some people find that confusing ):

[frosty gale]

I think pfsense blocks loopback by default or some shit

i remember this used to piss me off

its like 1 switch somewhere

[obsidian mist]

I have NAT reflection on to some degree.

[topaz scarab]

wow a good support request for once

[tired sage]

I figured it out, if your using the new console you can right click the line and click exclude word then NotifyAcceptingConnection and it will hide that in the console.

[quick mist]

Most consumer routers don't work well with routing a connection from the inside out to the external IP and back through a filter to the inside. Just use the external IP for folks connecting from elsewhere, while you use your LAN address internally

[obsidian mist]

I work in UI/UX for game development, it helps to be straightforward and thorough.

[topaz scarab]

tyfys

[obsidian mist]

Yeah, I'll wait until my Gamers™️ are online then.

[frosty gale]

well its probably not a consumer router

[kindred ore]

new console ?

[obsidian mist]

Yeah, it's a... a... Netgate 3100 something.

[frosty gale]

yucky

[quick mist]

it's a fair assumption for people connecting to the server on a LAN and then trying to connect to it from the same place via the WAN

[dusty sun]

Do you have a specific rule for loopback?

[obsidian mist]

Look we have 4 people hosting all sort of homelab nonsense in the house, the Netgear router we had was screaming for death.

[quick mist]

many routers don't even support it

[dusty sun]

didnt they say pfsense?

[tired sage]

yea that talked about it in the update vido you have to add -newconsole to your batch file to see it

[kindred ore]

is it even worth it tho ?

[quick mist]

I missed that. I know pfsense is very capable.

[dusty sun]

I dont use it myself, but I'd imagine theres nat rules

[obsidian mist]

This is the ruleset that allows loopback to work for our other servers active in the home.

[tired sage]

yes and no it just makes it look a little cleaner when you aren't running a to fancy server setup

[dusty sun]

do external tools say the port is opened?

[obsidian mist]

It was either:
A) deal with dropped packets and random disconnects during high traffic hours
B) take on network IT as a second job to make my wife happy*

• It also did not make my wife happy

[quick mist]

:snrk:

[obsidian mist]

Canyouseeme.org says that port 7777 is open on my external IP address.

[quick mist]

CYSM only tests TCP

[dusty sun]

need da udp

[quick mist]

if you don't mind sharing your address I can test both endpoints for you

[high ridge]

Hello fellows,

If i put server reboot to 00 h this disable the option ? In fact i already have my own tool which looking for updates and manage server restart every days so I would make sure the option is not activated.

[dusty sun]

do it privately

[obsidian mist]

iiiiis there another option than dropping my raw IP into the ether

[quick mist]

no it does not; it schedules the reboot to midnight

[frosty gale]

vpn out

and then connect back

[obsidian mist]

TRUE

[high ridge]

ah ok so no disable possibility ?

[quick mist]

no, the server needs to do daily housekeeping or it gets very sad about timing

[dusty sun]

do you own a vps somewhere? lol

[obsidian mist]

pog!

[dusty sun]

goat

sick ping boys

[quick mist]

Llama's ass status: whipped.

[steel sail]

did anybody manage to run a dedicated server on an Oracle vm or people are still trying to find a way ?

[high ridge]

ok no problem if time inside option is the time of reboot i'll put the time of my tool reboot and disable my restart option in my tool. Thanks

[obsidian mist]

WinAMP mentioned???

Ok, screw connecting via the same URL for internal and external. I'll take it.

[quick mist]

use DNS and have it serve the LAN ip internally.

[short blade]

So, I saw the update notes said that there's a new console screeen. Where do I go for that, since the current dedicated server still shows the old cli version

[quick mist]

then on paper it's still the same hostname (:

[dusty sun]

spooky dns magic

[obsidian mist]

H... how do I do this

[dusty sun]

can ur router do dns?

[obsidian mist]

Yeah, definitely.

[dusty sun]

yea its pfsense

add an a record

oh my

[quick mist]

or if you're lazy just define the hostname in /etc/hosts or c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

[dusty sun]

or if your not lazy, set up a pi-hole

[quick mist]

my second-favorite haiku

[dusty sun]

I need to get this printed

[obsidian mist]

I actually just have it forwarding DNS to OpenDNS and Google right now because it was slow,,,

[dusty sun]

you can set upstream

it shouldnt be super slow

[fading quarry]

for dns i just use dns rewrite for my domain in adguard

[dusty sun]

sounds like over-handlin

[short blade]

Also, has anyone else had trouble loading saves on a dedicated server while ingame?

[quick mist]

I also used to just run a .lan name server internally until ICANN decided it was a good idea to not have that be a private network TLD

[dusty sun]

ICANN, ruiner of dreams

[obsidian mist]

I used to have a pihole!

The other people in the house complained.

[quick mist]

right?

I spit on .local

[obsidian mist]

They blamed me for DNS issues, because of the pihole.

[dusty sun]

I get it, I def notice it being slow for some reason some times

but 99% its great

[quick mist]

put a pihole in a Proxmox linux VM. They'll never know

[frosty gale]

lame

[dusty sun]

mines just in a raw lil' kvm vm

[short blade]

I'm in game, and when I click on Load game, it gives me a "server is changing levels". Then a "lost connection to host"

[dusty sun]

and on an nVidia Jetson nano

failover and such

[quick mist]

when the server is changing levels, that's basically all it's doing; if that load takes a while you may need to wait and reconnect when the server comes out of its catatonia

[fading quarry]

I let nginx determine if domain is available public or not, that way i dont need to remember two adresses ever again ^^

[dusty sun]

ayy nginx proxy manager gang rise up

[short blade]

I'm testing on localhost, and being the only person online. I clicked the load game, and waited. Or are you saying due to the time it takes, I will just need to reconnect?

[obsidian mist]

Ha! I got it working.

Found A records (called host overrides) on pfsense.

[dusty sun]

nice

[obsidian mist]

Thanks for your help, guys.

[quick mist]

you may indeed

[dusty sun]

hell yea glad its working man

[obsidian mist]

To think I was about to try to set up reverse proxying with absolutely zero preknowledge an hour ago.