dedicated-servers

[modern plover]

what is the difference in info for dedicated servers vs setting the multiplayer method to "ip" in game?

[half wind]

yeah people like old 486 and Pentium machines

[frosty gale]

man you wanna see old look at my NAS

[gleaming pike]

I remember running 64 MB of RAM lol

[foggy belfry]

runs windows XP server iirc when i booted it once

[half wind]

I even saw a card that installed inside a pc that was a 486 once heh

[frosty gale]

the xeons in this machine dont even have names

just clock and bus freq

[half wind]

Retro gaming gets hardcore...

I just need something dual xeon, not super old anything newer than maybe 5 years

and 64+GB memory

[frosty gale]

but anyway I really want like a high performance server but im really realizing that those didnt exist until like last year

[half wind]

It's main purpose will be containers and vms

well depends on what kinda performance you need

[gleaming pike]

Am4 amd chips and boards are super cheap

[topaz scarab]

good old fell off the truck engineering samples?

ecc ram or bust

[frosty gale]

no like these were xeon xeons

[half wind]

yeah I was thinking about upgrading pcs and converting this 3700x into a server

[frosty gale]

the xeon

the OG

[half wind]

i'd just need to pop in another 32GB and im good to go

[frosty gale]

as the kids say

[tender thicket]

Minipcs as a server ftw

[topaz scarab]

kids say goat now or something

[tender thicket]

It's no proper server but she gets the job done

[topaz scarab]

my satis factory's running off a nuc, yup

[tender thicket]

32gb ram is all we need round these parts

[half wind]

I worry about throttling, mine will be doing a lot of work

[half wind]

they are neat tho, i like the concept

[frosty gale]

cant believe these drives still work

[half wind]

super small and lower power consumption

dude i have original SCI drives int hat old PIII workstation that still work

you'd be surprised sometimes

[topaz scarab]

do a full scrub

[tender thicket]

That's actually insane

[topaz scarab]

sorry about the power bill in advance

[half wind]

Ever tried floppies? the later ones suck, go bad

[tender thicket]

Is it just specifically "vintage" or do u have a reason to run smth so old

[regal marsh]

can get some ryzen 7700 at hetzner
good prices
but EU (they only have VPS in US)
they also have the 3ds

[half wind]

before around a certaijn year they were actually reliable and many still work

[frosty gale]

all my floppies are bad

[half wind]

assuming they were cared for

[tender thicket]

Hetzners solidd

[half wind]

the later years all floppies were just trash heh

[frosty gale]

I dont want someone elses computer

I want my computer

[topaz scarab]

copy that floppy

did you know that's the save icon???

[half wind]

no no dont' copy that floppy!

highly illegal stuff and that guy will suddenly appear dancing in front of you

it's like a living nightmare... trust me

[frosty gale]

I needed a floppy to install usb drivers on my 98se machine

[tender thicket]

I remember my grandmother having one of those gag coffee on floppy things

[broken kernel]

how do i set the player limit count linux server on 1.0

please help

[tender thicket]

Where it looks like a spill

[broken kernel]

game.ini change doesn't work

[regal marsh]

see wiki
its the same

[half wind]

Anybody remember the free drink coaster app for pcs?

😄

[broken kernel]

everytime i set it sets the value back down to 4

[frosty gale]

add this as a startup argument
-ini:Game:[/Script/Engine.GameSession]:MaxPlayers=8

[tender thicket]

I've seen them but it was before my time

[broken kernel]

ok lemme try

[half wind]

It was mildly funny... it just opened the CD tray

[regal marsh]

hmm I had it set before 1.0 in the ini
and it just worked in 1.0

[frosty gale]

my machine had a free drinks coaster until I built my new one

I miss that drive

[half wind]

i miss the sound of floppies :/

and loudly clicking hard disks... i haven't owned a hard disk in years

[frosty gale]

I still have 2 HDDS

[tender thicket]

Hdds still have their purpose right?

[frosty gale]

max this case supports

[half wind]

well i do own some... in a pc that hasn't been used in a decade

[tender thicket]

Like aren't they cheaper per capacity still than ssds?

[frosty gale]

HDDs are great

[foggy belfry]

hmm. I think I set this up right but when using online port checker it says they are closed

[frosty gale]

I boot this game off hdd

[half wind]

Yes they're great for mass storage

im spoiled though

[tender thicket]

Thats a bit crazy, what's ur boot time like?

[frosty gale]

I should buy like 2 wd black 4tbs and put them in raid 0

[quick mist]

That looks correct. Is the server already running? The ports will appear closed if not.

[frosty gale]

like a couple seconds

[tender thicket]

Ok ntb

[half wind]

I play satisfactory from a USB drive 😄

[foggy belfry]

yes it is running, i am connected to it through ssh rn

[tender thicket]

I can't tell if ur joking or not

[half wind]

im not

[tender thicket]

Id assume so but u never know

Why tho

[frosty gale]

like maybe 15-20 seconds to main menu

another 10-15 to in game

[half wind]

because the drive is about as fast as if internal...

[foggy belfry]

I also experianced this issue when I tried using this server for minecraft

[half wind]

it's usb 3.2

or 3.1 whichever it is... regardless it's native fast

[tender thicket]

Oh ok I was thinking like a usb2 thumb drive

That's different

And fair enough

[half wind]

yeah i did a speed test onm it and it does as well as my ssd's internal

It's just a m2 enclosure, i like it a lot 😄

[foggy belfry]

on a previous server which used the exact same network rule-list everything worked on port 25565, but when i switched from that machine to this one and re-used the rule list it stopped working

[frosty gale]

usb 3 is as fast as sata now

[half wind]

Yep

[tender thicket]

Yup m.2 enclosures are goated, set one up for my mum for her workstation

[frosty gale]

now what I really need is symmetrical gigabit internet

[half wind]

i wasn't sure what to expect then tested it and was like well ok i can just use it like a normal ssd heh

[tender thicket]

Partitioned it for windows + storage + time machine

[half wind]

most of my storage is remote and not that much... bit over 5TB usable space

plenty for my jellyfin and some game server stuff... and imich

[tender thicket]

I'm planning to set up my jellyfin arr stack this weekend

I've just been lazy

[frosty gale]

Plex 🥱

[half wind]

I gotta say... somebody told me to try it and I did. I'm impressed

I like it better than plex tbh lol

[frosty gale]

im anti FOSS

[tender thicket]

Never used either but I hear plex is p stinky these days

[tender thicket]

Mans middle name is adobe

[half wind]

I haven't used plex in awhile but my take was jellyfin worked better right out of the box

like really most people won't need to touch settings much if at all

[tender thicket]

Cool

[half wind]

My suggestion though is to try both and decide for yourself, everybody likes somethign different

[frosty gale]

does jellyfin have applecarplay support

[half wind]

not that im aware but never looked

[frosty gale]

it doesnt last I checked

so off the table it goes

[half wind]

Yeah see this is a prime example

that's a feature they need that i don't so...

lol

[frosty gale]

I bought plex pass never had a single issue so I keep using

when I have issues ill stop

[half wind]

that's how i usually am, if it works im reluctant to switch unless there is some very compelling reason

[frosty gale]

like im thinking of getting rid of pfsense because netgate are asshats

[half wind]

you kinda get invested in understanding how to make a thing do the thing you want it to do as well... that you have to relearn heh

[frosty gale]

but opnsense just isnt there yet

[half wind]

wait netgate is still a thing?

[frosty gale]

why wouldnt it be

[half wind]

i dunno i don't think i've heard that name since... the late 90's/early 2000's

kinda figured they died off like so many other companies

[frosty gale]

they dont even charge an arm and leg

they charge the wife and kids

to use their stupid firewall

[half wind]

lol

I was using it to.... share a dialup connection

this is where somebody will think im kidding again lol

[frosty gale]

been a hot minute or two since then

[tender thicket]

Wait is this a genuine deal breaker for u

I can't tell

[half wind]

I can see it being a dealbreaker if that's a thing in plex

[frosty gale]

i dont know about deal breaker but deal very unfortunate

either way im not gonna use jellyfin because i dont trust foss to be good

[tender thicket]

Ok but like when would u actually use that functionality

[half wind]

i don't have a fancy carplay system but if you can play movies on like rear tv's and stuff

[tender thicket]

That s fakr

Fair

[half wind]

im sure parents would love that lol

[tender thicket]

I'm just fascinated abt this usecase

[frosty gale]

I dont use apple car play since I have an s22 ultra

but my brother does

[half wind]

I just use mine for music

[frosty gale]

and half this system is for him

yea we only use it for music

[tender thicket]

Huh

[half wind]

i went to the dark side... iphone

[tender thicket]

Ehhh iPhone Android war shit is bullshit

[frosty gale]

yikes

[tender thicket]

Use what u want

Who cares

[frosty gale]

i didnt realize how big this shit was

[half wind]

the game?

[frosty gale]

my music folder

[half wind]

oh lol

i had a huge collection of FLAC at one point... lost it all

[frosty gale]

i have a tidal subscription but fuck tidal I steal all their master quality flacs and use them on my own server

[half wind]

the oink era

[topaz scarab]

oh question for you guys running the server on windows
how large is the folder?

[frosty gale]

🐷

[half wind]

some was well done vinly rips too

[topaz scarab]

anyone remember what.cd

[half wind]

now... my movie collection on the other hand

still huge

yes

because i was on oink lol

[frosty gale]

I wasted too much money on vinyls

[half wind]

I was tempted to get into all that... then came to my senses

[frosty gale]

I found myself + 1 Onkyo HiFi Stack from the mid 80s or so and couldnt resist a new Audio Technica to go with it

[half wind]

I do still ahve a few from when I was a teenager/kid... i have Michael Jackson Off the Wall... Motley Crue Shout at the Devil, bunch of ZZ Top records...

Nugent...

I also have... a couple of 8 tracks

[frosty gale]

idk if they sell reel to reel tapes at Target

[half wind]

some of those old stereo systems sounded really good

I'm also unnaturally drawn to anything tube driven...

[frosty gale]

i can tell

[half wind]

Well for just normal audio stuff I don't care as much... for guitar stuff I care a great deal

Solid state circuits just don't react like tubes to being over driven heh

[quick mist]

I don't know how comparable Oracle CLoud is to AWS or Google Compute or Azure but you might have to set up something akin to a Security Group which is sort of a firewall on your private VLAN to let traffic even reach the host's perimeter firewall

[half wind]

Is Oracle cheap or something? I always assuming that stuff is going to be too expensive for what it is

Or maybe OVH has spoiled me with their incredible pricing... probably that

[frosty gale]

oracle is free

[half wind]

Well that explains it! Hard to beat free!

[topaz scarab]

they could be paying me

[frosty gale]

free if you like buy the free tier

[half wind]

Free and powerful enough for a sf server?

[frosty gale]

maybe

[half wind]

interesting

[topaz scarab]

thought they had limits on hours per month

[frosty gale]

they might

[half wind]

I'll likely continue to rent throuh OVH... been with them since the MC server days in the mid 2010's

[regal marsh]

vultr high frequency vps has best single core cpu freq you can get (and everything is snappy and fast and good control panel)

[half wind]

my control panel is putty 😄

[foggy belfry]

their "always free" tier (which is what I am using) is up to 4 OCPU cores and 24gb ram

[half wind]

wow i might sign up just to poke around with it

[foggy belfry]

its great if you can get an instance, but i tried for over a month and didn't get one

[half wind]

Well not like I need it so if it takes awhile doesn't matter

[foggy belfry]

what I ended up doing is upgrading to their "pay as you go" tier, since their sales/solutons person who emailed me said that that tier has more access to instances

so long as I stay within those 4 ocpu and 24gb ram thresholds though, I don't pay anything

[half wind]

This is the only issue I have with my current server... Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU D-1521 @ 2.40GHz

[foggy belfry]

also its only on specific images, but it wouldnt be a problem since the one thats free is great for applications like running games, iirc its ARM and then you use linux on it

downside is only able to connect through terminal ssh (as far as I have been able to at least, smarter people can probably figure out ways to use other clients doing that connection)

[half wind]

I'd be happy with that... ssh is fine 😄

[foggy belfry]

askjdhakdjhkjashdkas im so confused

[topaz scarab]

askjdhakdjhkjashdkas you're so confused

[hallow isle]

Has anyone had any luck running multiple servers off the same machine with linuxgsm just trying to set up a group world and a personal one

[foggy belfry]

the oricle network tester says it can connect to 7777, and the setup seems to be right from the configuration side

but when trying to check that port 7777 is open using port checker it says its closed

[half wind]

You could always just load the appropirate save for the time

[hallow isle]

That's what i'm thinking i'm going to have to do would be nice to have both running simultaneously but while I can recognise both instances in the server manager they share the same name and I can't claim the second one due to same IP

[half wind]

I mean I'm really not sure, so giant grain of salt here

But I would imagine that would require some port changing, for one

[hallow isle]

Recognises different ports and the fact that one already has a game running on it but won't let me claim the new one

[regal marsh]

you should set another port

[half wind]

if that's even possible

yeah see

[hallow isle]

I changed the port and added it to manager using the new port I think it's just having trouble with the IP

[regal marsh]

bit outdated now
only the -Port is used since 1.0

[hallow isle]

xD just dm it to me they are open

[topaz scarab]

fandom's dead, use wiki.gg

[regal marsh]

oh I cant link the wiki

oh right

[topaz scarab]

yup fandom ui still shit

[regal marsh]

yeah this looks more updated 🤣
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Port_forwarding_and_firewall_settings

[topaz scarab]

wonder why
oh look wow it's not squished to 400px wide like a certain other wiki

mobile first!

[hallow isle]

unfortunately doesn't have any information in regards to my problem but taking a thorough look regardless. The ports are definitely changed. Wonder if I can shut down the first one then claim the second one seperately then start both of them

[regal marsh]

you mean you one server is 7777 and your other server is 7778 for example?

[hallow isle]

yeah

[topaz scarab]

well you'd prob want to ask the linuxgsm guys then

use -Port?

[hallow isle]

also i'm pretty sure this just worked let me claim the second server and setup a new game on it

[foggy belfry]

ok something is wrong and I can't figure it out. I started a fresh instance and followed the exact steps I followed when I first set up my minecraft server the first time. When I set it up before on a different instance, everything worked perfectly. I recreated it now, doing the same steps, and it is not working. So clearly theres some problem that I don't know about. I am testing using minecraft not satisfactory because thats what I have had experiance in up till now

[hallow isle]

then starting 1st server everything is still working correctly just gonna attempt to have people join both at once

[topaz scarab]

lmao why tf does it dep tmux

LinuxGSM uses tmux
oh. gross

[hallow isle]

yep

i'm going to be going clean slate on my server machine soon so couldn't be arsed to set it up manually just to test concept

[topaz scarab]

i know a game or twos servers that kinda need it, but
last resort kinda thing imo

[hallow isle]

plan is to wipe everything and start from scratch so it's all neatly configured since it used to be a user pc

[topaz scarab]

containerize everything

[brittle spindle]

guys right now my friend has a dedicated server running on his pc, but is there a way for us to get over 4 players? if not is there any free or cheap ways to get more players?

[topaz scarab]

check wiki, prob there

[half wind]

heh that was one thing about MC... i protected that server map like it was the kings treasure

[hallow isle]

Ok so for anyone having my problem in the future that was the solution. make sure to shut down all server instances and configure new instance in the in game manager before booting up the others

same ip, different ports, etc etc

Don't know why it works like that but i'm guessing while it's unclaimed game has trouble differentiating the two instances

once it has a name it's fine

[half wind]

So on a scale of 1 to CheaterMcCheatpants how cheaty is it that I leave my map running when nobody is online?

[topaz scarab]

prob because it shares config/log folders

[hallow isle]

no those are seperate

I seperate them so they don't share files to prevent any crossover

[topaz scarab]

did you make a copy of the server files

[hallow isle]

no fresh install

[topaz scarab]

aren't you running two instances

[hallow isle]

Prob should have changed my wording two servers same machine

[topaz scarab]

that's what the auto pause setting is for, right

[half wind]

yep

[hallow isle]

I think he means to idle resources lol

[hollow tulip]

Anyboddy here who knows a bit about 4netplayer servers and knows where i upload my blueprints on it? :c

[half wind]

my factory just sits there doing factory things 24/7

[hallow isle]

which is just time efficient on the grindset even when afk

[topaz scarab]

i say it's fine, you'll run out of ingame storage

plus it's literally a vanilla setting

[half wind]

Oh you don't know the depths of my depravity

i can overcome that problem 😄

[foggy belfry]

ok one final keyboardmash asdkfhksljfasjdkfhsadkjfhalskdfjh
im sure that i can set up the actual game server quickly. but I don't want to do that before i figure out the port forwarding issue, which despite following all the steps that should make it work and the oricle in-house network analyzer saying it should work, the port forwarding is not working

[topaz scarab]

but they're sharing the dedi server folder, or separate

[hallow isle]

seperate, seperate users, seperate folders

[topaz scarab]

okay that makes sense now

[brittle spindle]

anyone have an answer?

[topaz scarab]

yeah

[brittle spindle]

sooo

how

[half wind]

Anybody know how much less intensive the server is if you say... half the tickrate?

[topaz scarab]

prob about half lol

[half wind]

It shall be done

tries 1 just for giggles

[topaz scarab]

i'd say 5 minimum

gets kinda rubberbandy on 1, at least when done on other games™️

[half wind]

I'm must looking to shave some cpu ticks off, 15 should be good

might try lower though to see, never hurts to try

[topaz scarab]

have it change depending on whether players are on

[foggy belfry]

i guess ill be back tommorow ripping my hair out as this

goodnight folks

[topaz scarab]

nini

[half wind]

That's a thing?>

[topaz scarab]

prob not without restarting the server

[half wind]

Odds are I'll be the only one ever on it honestly

At most maybe 1 other person

I don't know many people into Satisfactory... very disappointing

[topaz scarab]

try the satisfactory discord

[twilit fox]

what?

[half wind]

that was supposed to be just not must

i get a bit crosswired sometimes

[twilit fox]

Do you know what "ticks" are?

[half wind]

yeah i get them all the time out in the woods...

[twilit fox]

yes yes.. well.. you can't lower the servers ticks. it needs them all.

[half wind]

Yes... you can

[fading quarry]

be wary that lowering tick rate can come with unexpected consequenses, i dont know about 1.0 but in u8 and earlier builds it meant you could get a LOT of double buildings which could eventually lead to catastropic crash/corruption of the save.

[half wind]

I assure you... that you can

[twilit fox]

it will become unplayable.

[half wind]

I played it 1t 15 for quite awhile...

[topaz scarab]

inb4 game time is tied to tick rate

[twilit fox]

the math is tied to the tick rate.

[topaz scarab]

scary

[twilit fox]

it'll be like playing single player with <20fps.. belts stop working the way they're supposed to. production lines start fking up for apparently no reason

[fading quarry]

you get a LOT of desync issues with lowering tick rate, it quickly becomes a sad affair

[twilit fox]

And then that's before the desync issues lol

if 30 ticks is too much for your dedi.. get a more powerful server :/

[tepid geode]

Are there any good video tutorials for setting up a server because I am failing terribly as of right now

[twilit fox]

the wiki.

you should read, not watch a video.

[tepid geode]

I did, and it’s very confusing

I got the server manager tool, and it’s still kinda confusing to use

As well as the server manager in the actual game

[twilit fox]

if you don't have a little knowledge of networking and computers I can see how it would be..

but anyway, the wiki puts it pretty straightforward.

[tepid geode]

I mean it seems simple enough

[twilit fox]

follow the directions for your operating system.

you probably want the windows directions.

[tepid geode]

Yeah I’m using windows

[half wind]

The wiki isn't super clear... the best it has on the subject is how to change it and "Note that this is an upper limit (up-to), and your server will only reach the specified value if hardware allows. Also note that should you observe undesirable side effects, lower your desired tick rate and retest before further debugging."

and that if your server already can't handle it raising it won't help which I'd assume to begin with heh

[tepid geode]

I’m still struggling to even create a session

It just won’t let me create one because currently the server is offline

[twilit fox]

so, you do know that you don't need a dedi to play with your friends.. they can join your single player game :3

[bronze frost]

Is there an issue with server shutting down when no one is connected? I didn't want it to pause

[tepid geode]

Yeah I know, but I wanna keep it open if we have time conflicts

[twilit fox]

you should, waste power if no one is on :p

it's in the options on the clients server manager.

[topaz scarab]

he's running a lights-out manufacturing operation

[bronze frost]

Server window shows errors or points to being shut down, but shows offline in game

[bronze frost]

Yah. When I disconnect, server online in the server manager window, and then it no longer online

[twilit fox]

so if you want to have a dedi.. do you have a seperate pc?

[tepid geode]

Ehh, I mean kinda

I got a laptop

That is “capable” of running it

[twilit fox]

because the way a dedi works is it has to run 24/7 to be use able. you can never turn it off.

[tepid geode]

Yeesh

[twilit fox]

so you exit your game and the server goes offline?

[tepid geode]

I might need to reconsider setting it up then

[bronze frost]

It stayed online long enough to get like a few things made

[twilit fox]

alright.. well if you want to do that to your laptop.. you want to use steamcmd to set it up.

[twilit fox]

after that you'll have to go into your router and expose your laptop to the internet by opening the port for satisfactory for your friends to join.

[tepid geode]

Ok 👍 I might just resort to leaving my desktop open with the server instead of making one though

[fading quarry]

Don't know about windows but on linux you have to modify the ServerSetting.ini file as that UI is non persistent and resets on server restart.

My ServerSettings.ini I dont like 5 minute saves so i increased it to 15

mAutoPause=False
mAutoSaveOnDisconnect=True
mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", 900.000000))```

[bronze frost]

restarted server, showing online

[twilit fox]

really... ffs

so the restart time on my server will reset to 24:00 utc after the server restarts at 3am too -.-

[broken kernel]

Thanks it worked btw

[half wind]

@twilit foxThe server can handle it well enough I was just looking to cut a bit of fat here and there. I did play up to just starting with oil and didn't notice anything odd other than old foliage appearing when I'd first connect then vanishing a couple of seconds later. But when you said the math is tied to it it was going back to 30

heh

(that save was at 15)

or... run at 15 the entire time rather

my next map i plan to play deep into so i don't want to take any risk of something scrweing it up

[twilit fox]

I can't find that file.

[topaz scarab]

make one, prob

[twilit fox]

you have a desktop enviroment on your linux system?

[topaz scarab]

looks like winscp

[half wind]

mmm winscp

[fading quarry]

filezilla via SFTP

[twilit fox]

Ah, I tried to set that up awhile back.. I'll have to revisit it.

[half wind]

It has some advanced stuff filezilla doesn't do... used zilla for years though

great ftp client

[twilit fox]

I found it with find '*.ini'

[fading quarry]

and my bad you need to modify GameUserSettings.ini for save interval

[twilit fox]

mine has more files for some reason.. steam@Satisfactory:~/factoryserver/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer$ ls -a . DatasmithContent.ini FullBodyIK.ini Hardware.ini ModelViewViewModel.ini StructUtils.ini .. DeformerGraph.ini GLTFExporter.ini IKRig.ini Niagara.ini Synthesis.ini ApexDestruction.ini DeviceProfiles.ini Game.ini Input.ini OnlineIntegration.ini ToolPresets.ini Bridge.ini EditorScriptingUtilities.ini GameUserSettings.ini InstallBundle.ini Paper2D.ini TraceUtilities.ini Compat.ini Engine.ini GameplayTags.ini Interchange.ini RuntimeOptions.ini VariantManagerContent.ini ControlRig.ini EnhancedInput.ini HairStrands.ini Metasound.ini Scalability.ini Wwise.ini

[fading quarry]

huh

[twilit fox]

I have no idea. :/

if you do journalctl -r do you have a bunch of errors like Sep 12 06:06:13 Satisfactory FactoryServer-Linux-Shipping[1027]: LogGame: Error: [BuildEffect] Failed to find remap material on StaticMeshComponent_2146393724,> too?

[half wind]

mine is lgsm so who knows

i think things are still where you expect them, seem so thus far anyhow

[tough venture]

Any of you been playing around with the API yet, anything fun to do?

Or usefull

[half wind]

I wouldn't even know how to use it personally

[topaz scarab]

took a quick look
letting someone else write a client for it 🙂

[tough venture]

Yea, thats probably the best bet haha

[fading quarry]

those kinds of errors are common and can be overlooked, they should be classified at warnings instead imho

[twilit fox]

I figured that, I just wish they didn't flood the system log xD since I'm using screen, that's not presistant I don't think.. but I'm pretty sure the journalctl is.

[pine pulsar]

I was very annoyed today to learn that the Linux server stores saves under user’s home directory under .config/Epic/…

This makes it extra annoying when I put together my container for this game

Had to add a separate volume mount under /home/steamcmd/.config/Epic to store all the save metadata and sessions/saves of the server despite my copy of the dedi files being installed to its own directory/volume

[twilit fox]

there's a docker for it. or lxc's if you're using pve :3

[half wind]

mmm pve

i'll be deploying that soon

[fading quarry]

Be sure to setup log rotations otherwise SF will run till 0 bytes left of storage and fatally crash and be messy AF to get back up and running. (at least this was the case in earlier dedicated server versions)

[pine pulsar]

I use my own container

https://github.com/steamutils/apps/tree/main/satisfactory

Since I run mine on Kubernetes

[topaz scarab]

still has the old ports, nice

[twilit fox]

I think with screen the server log doesn't get saved. I could be wrong. otherwise I've got a 64gb drive for it that's easy enough to mointor the free space on. so I should be good.

[pine pulsar]

The docker container from the wiki is really stupid, adds volume statements to the dockerfile to mount storage to users home directory config folder/Epic

[half wind]

if satisfactory logs eat up all my server storage i'll eat my shorts

[pine pulsar]

The server binary should allow you to set a path to the game saves instead of just inherently dumping them under the current users home directory

[fading quarry]

its the log files it writes to disk that can easily over a few months use several hundred GB of storage.

[half wind]

easy enough to recover from that anyhow, even if it did happen... which it aint

i'd still have recovery... and root. That's enough

[twilit fox]

I'll keep an eye on it. I appreciate the heads up.

[pine pulsar]

Could just mount a tmpfs volume to the logs dir, then setup nightly or weekly restarts of container to clear the vol

[topaz scarab]

crontab rm log folder

logs folder maxes out at 15 files, looks like

[fading quarry]

keeping logs for more than 1 session is a waste of IO and should only be kept in memory imho, with the option to save it when having problems.

not like one is going to read through thousands of lines of logs on a regular basis

[minor narwhal]

did the server update come out yet?

[half wind]

yes

[quick mist]

logrotated.

[half wind]

Old habits die hard, I keep so many (compressed) and trim past a date depending on the nature of the service

you can cut em down to 1/8th to 1/10th the size heh

But.. that's from running things were you do need old logs... somewhat frequently

[fading quarry]

does not affect the log files that SF writes to disk in ./gamefiles/FactoryGame/Saved/Logs folder though

i just map it to a black hole

[stiff cobalt]

Heya guys, is there a fix for dedicated servers on hosting platforms like nitrado? They still say they wait for a fix

[half wind]

wonder if they're waiting on that coal fix or something

[rugged flicker]

has anyone got any experience with setting up a dedicated server through epic games? i cant seem to get mine to work

[topaz scarab]

shouldn't be any different

[bronze frost]

Server stays up and doesn't pause as long as I don't join. If I join, it shut downs after I disconnect

[foggy violet]

Hello 👋 , I am going to set up a dedicated server based on Ubuntu Server 24.04.1 and I am wondering about the official wiki and the build ID which does not correspond to the build ID of V1. Can you tell me if this is the correct Build ID? (sorry my English is not very good)

[bronze frost]

At least, I figured that out

[granite flume]

is theere any way i can connect to the server with only tcp ore udp because i still can not opebn the same port on both protocols. ore a workaround to use one port for tcp and an other like e.g.7778 udp?

[granite flume]

when you use steam cmd its 1690800

[topaz scarab]

oh is that what they meant by build id

[granite flume]

ig

[topaz scarab]

well, a better guess than mine

[granite flume]

what was your guesss?

[quick mist]

you can have logrotated rotate log files in any directory you want; you just have to set it up

[ornate grotto]

According to my game

[quick mist]

Updated my tool to fetch and do chealth and timing checks at both API endpoints:

$ ./sfcheck.py $myhost -v
        Server Name             The Great Wide Nothing
        UDP Response Time       34.12msec
        TCP Response Time       202.21msec
        Server Health:          healthy
        Server Status:          Live
        Server Version          365306

[foggy violet]

Nice thanks

[topaz scarab]

oh would you look at that @tough venture

[ornate grotto]

Actually Epic Games shows a version number

[foggy violet]

I'm Steam user

Thanks all

[ornate grotto]

Should be the same version though

[quick mist]

the whole part of the CL number is what the server and client use to identify they're the same version

[foggy violet]

there are not the same build ids

I Think

[minor narwhal]

my router hates me

ports are forwarded, my minecraft server works fine, but satisfactory doesn't

[tough venture]

Do you have a github link to this tool?

[granite flume]

udp and tcp open?

[minor narwhal]

yep

[granite flume]

right port? (7777)

[foggy violet]

Only for 7777 port ?

[minor narwhal]

tried using tcp/up and 2 rules seperately for each

yes only for 7777

[foggy violet]

strange

[granite flume]

does it work localy

[minor narwhal]

yes

[topaz scarab]

could prob make a static web tool for the http api 🤔

[quick mist]

I have! It's at https://github.com/dopeghoti/SF-Tools
The update for both API endpoints is on a branch while I get the README.md updated, it'll be merged to main shortly.

[pallid relic]

@quick mist any idea if the lightweight query api contains more data than the HTTP API? 🤔

Was hoping for the API to include some kind of information about current players on the server / placement of objects etc.

[quick mist]

it has some data the HTTP API does not, at least when not using an authenticated request

if you have a token for the server API, you can get data like that:

[pallid relic]

Yeah i tried the HTTP API, pretty nice stuff, but no endpoints / functions regarding anything that happens in game.

Just general Dedicated server stats, settings etc.

[topaz scarab]

yup browsers still don't support udp

[granite flume]

is there any way to tell server/client to only use tcp ore udp?

[quick mist]

No, the game server uses both.

[pallid relic]

Was kinda hoping for some kind of API which can be used to track player locations and the objects that have been placed so you can place that on some kind of online map.

[granite flume]

ik but both doesent work for me at least for now i just talkedcx to tzhe router manufacturer

[quick mist]

I'm sure mods will come soon to let you use the API to poll player positions, inventories, hard drives scanned, recipes known, power grid states, and all sorts of stuff.

[pallid relic]

Yeah that would be great if we can extend the API like that 😄

[quick mist]

the main branch has been updated

[tough venture]

I'll take a look after work

Are there any more "commands" available for the 1.0?

If you know

[quick mist]

The REST API endpoint has a lot of functionality- most anything you can do from the Server Manager in the game client and more.

[foggy violet]

desolé mais vous savez pourquoi sur steamdb le Build ID est 15636841

[quick mist]

je n'parlez-pas français.

[foggy violet]

Oh i'm so sorry

sorry but you know why on steamdb the Build ID is 15636841

[granite flume]

for me its not

[vagrant acorn]

Hi all, I was doing a little bit of testing using the Satisfactory Dedicated Server download from Epic. All installed all working however, when using the client to connect to the server, I can get in, it loads the game fine but then when I leave the server, for some reason, the client can then no longer see the server as it shows as offline until the server has been turned off and back on. Anyone got any ideas as to why it would perform this way?

[ornate grotto]

That ID number from PeHeReBe is the Steam App ID, not the version/build ID

[granite flume]

i have send the app id to install the ded seerver via steam cmd

[restive citrus]

A lot of users are experiencing this including myself. Still no fix

[runic zinc]

Known issue. Some people have had luck getting it to work via changing various settings [autorestart, save on leave, etc]
Some people cant get it to not do it.

[quick mist]

The Build IDs shown in SteamDB appear to simply be a primary key for Steam and not correlated with the build versions of the products they are keyed to.

[vagrant acorn]

Ah I see.

[foggy violet]

Owh ok thanks

[runic zinc]

Could try toggling those settings, i turned my autorestart interval all the way down, auto save on leave and pause on leave off. [Make sure to do a full server restart after] let me know if it works.

Worst case that doesnt work change em back and try again

[vagrant acorn]

I'll give it a go now.

Just to confirm, when you say auto restart, you referring to the Server Restart Interval and setting it to 0?

[frosty gale]

do satisfactory servers log when an admin uses a command?

im trying to find an answer but cant seem too on google

[quick mist]

I didn't think to check the one time I actually ran a command (:

it does log API calls though

so I'd be surprised if it didn't log console commands

[frosty gale]

alright thank you

trying to find a log

[topaz scarab]

FactoryGame/Saved/Logs prob

[sweet gorge]

Its a bit sad the udp query does not show the current and max players :/

That’s what I would like to wish for future updates

Only the https api and it needs an token to display them

[unreal crystal]

anyone else having issues with the blueprint manager on their dedi server?

[quick mist]

arguably that's privileged information which is why it's relegated to authenticated requests from the REST API

[unreal crystal]

attempting to clear it crashes it

[sweet gorge]

Yes but other games publish it via source query publicly 😅

@quick mist like for hosting companies they use max players and current players to check if the customer is using the correct slots they pay for

[quick mist]

hosting companies can generate API tokens on the servers they host pretty easily, and then have access to that information.

[sweet gorge]

How to generate api tokens?

I only know via console

[quick mist]

to make a token, use server.GenerateAPIToken on the Dedicated Server console.

[sweet gorge]

Okay that’s what I know but else there is no possible way correct

[quick mist]

currently, no

[sweet gorge]

Ok thanks

[atomic mason]

sadly no 😦

[regal marsh]

I think its the hour
not after x hours
I have it at 24 and it restarted at midnight
didnt disconnect clients (apparenly only timeout when bigger saves)

its mandatory

[quick mist]

Yes, it's labeled as "interval" but it's really "What time would you like the daily maintenance restart?"

[regal marsh]

yeah its confusing

[quick mist]

"Interval" is an objectively bad and misleading label

[regal marsh]

and #dedicated-servers message

[midnight wave]

Hi, did the patch for the Failed to connect API has been live or just the work around mentioned before?

[quick mist]

They pushed a couple internal builds but nothing was released to the public yet.

I guess the issue was more persnickety than they initially thought. Dev be like.

Has anyone got a working server publicly available over IPv6? I'd like to test my tool using IPv6 to hit the UDP endpoint if you're willing to share the server address.

[half wind]

would i have had to do anything extra for that orrr...

i mean i have a server running but i've made no ip or interface related changes...

[quick mist]

all I'd need is the address, my tool just pokes the APIs to get server health info:

$ ./sfcheck.py $myhost -v
        Server Name             The Great Wide Nothing
        UDP Response Time       51.46msec
        TCP Response Time       102.55msec
        Server Health:          healthy
        Server Status:          Live
        Server Version          365306

[half wind]

so if it's using ipv6 it did it out of the box

inet6 fe80::ae1f:6bff:fe7f:1cca

[quick mist]

thanks

[half wind]

like i said tho that's out of the box setup, the machine itself def has ipv6 running

[quick mist]

welp, it timed out, looks like I have some work to do. Thanks

[half wind]

In fact tehy give you a block of those...

can't even get ipv4s for them like you used to, it used to be 2 bucks per ip flat rate. Now it's 2 bucks a month per ip

[quick mist]

yeah, the ARPAcolypse is affecting us all

[half wind]

Well with everything using addresses now... FFS even refrigerators and stuff

[latent portal]

hi guys, so. i have this dedicated server installed. already played on it and hosted on my router with a port fowarding both on tpc and udp on port 7777 already. it worked, i only left the dedicated server steam app from cofee stain open and my game would have been online. but now, when i exit game also the game exits, i don't understand

[deep turret]

that's the link local address

[quick mist]

My toaster does not need and should not have a network interface.

[half wind]

Oh... yeah i know little about ipv6, never played with it

inet6 2607:5300:60:58cd::

that's the only other thing listed for that interface on ipv6

[deep turret]

that's the ipv6 yep

[topaz scarab]

ConnectionResetError: [WinError 10054] An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host
but idk how messed up my router config is

[half wind]

k

the more you know!

I really need to learn more about ipv6 since it is the future heh

[quick mist]

well I was able to ping6 you but the UDP probe to the SF server timed out

[deep turret]

fe80:.. is link local so you know

[quick mist]

fe80:: is the analog to IPv4 127.0.0.0/8?

[deep turret]

nope

[half wind]

well like I said if i'd needed to do something in the server config i didn't... because it's all bone stock right now

[deep turret]

analog to 127.0.0.1 is ::1

[quick mist]

well that's nicely succinct

[half wind]

and i shoulda known that fe80 thing because i did run into that before at one point... but my memory

have issues with it because reasons heh

[deep turret]

ipv4 analog of fe80: is 169.254.0.0/16

[quick mist]

aaaah

[deep turret]

(generally not used)

[half wind]

if i ever do need to get deeper into networking i have a friend that does it for a living so

he's aching to do a project with me wiring this house

[deep turret]

sorry corrected

[latent portal]

i keep getting this

[tawny heart]

Hi, i wanted to check is there a link or some doc that contains a full list of possible server console commands? i tried checking the wiki but i dont think its been updated yet

[ancient bison]

That's completely valid, I'll change that

[cyan island]

Hi, im new to satisfactory multiplayer, is there any server I can play on with other people and help them with their factory's on their server?

[unreal crystal]

#1201555265942724758

[hasty girder]

Can I use this as an Steam Start Paramter or do i have to make a bat script for that?

[sturdy gust]

Either

[sturdy gust]

Have you tried verifying game files? 😮

[hasty girder]

Do i need a Windows Firewall Rule for 7777? Never needed that for Minecraft or Valheim

[sturdy gust]

Depends on your setup, and your system. If you didn't need them for Minecraft or Valheim, potentially not

But I'd err on the side of caution 🙂

[sweet dune]

quick question- if im hosting locallly on my machine (windows command line) it seems if i leave the cmd open and i disconnect, it disconnects the server for everyone- but if i start the cmd server and others join, i dont, it doesnt break if i never connect-

[sturdy gust]

Yeah, this is a known bug

[sweet dune]

i turned auto pause off

oh gotcha, thanks

[sturdy gust]

It's because you're hosting it on the same machine on Windows, essentially

[versed turret]

damn I just got here to ask the same

[sturdy gust]

😄

[versed turret]

What a coincidence

[sturdy gust]

Hopefully it'll be fixed soon 🙂 Alternatively, you could host it via Linux etc., but otherwise just wait

[versed turret]

So, if I take the long route and go through the internet anyway will that still happen?

[half wind]

hell it might run under the windows linux subsystem

[sturdy gust]

Yes, and it probably won't work either

[sturdy gust]

That's what I was alluding to 😄

Or, even simpler, install WSL and then use Docker 😉 Haha

[half wind]

a lot of people don't know it exists lol

[versed turret]

I have WSL just too lazy to host from there 😛

[sturdy gust]

Yeah, you're right

[sturdy gust]

Well, it's one line 😄 But I get you!

[unreal crystal]

smfh how is linuxgsm blocked

[sturdy gust]

Loool, annoying

[unreal crystal]

this is blasphemy

[sturdy gust]

Arcane knowledge my friend

[sweet dune]

i guess a side question, is a steam profile required to host a dedicated server from command line?
wondering if my train of thought is wrong, but host on 1 machine, use my steam profile to play on a 2nd computer

[latent portal]

...yes

[unreal crystal]

no; its anon hosted/login only

[sturdy gust]

Nope

[sweet dune]

ah, any problems you can think of doing it that way?

[sturdy gust]

Nope

That's what a lot of people do

[quick mist]

nope, it's designed to be implemented that way in fact

[sweet dune]

great- ill test tomorrow- thanks for the help and insight

[sturdy gust]

Best of luck! Ask for help here if you run into anything, friend 🙂

[sweet dune]

🫡

[versed turret]

So for WSL I should be getting the server files again? Or can I use the same as win?

[sturdy gust]

You'd get them again

Don't try cross-system IO, it's very slow for WSL2

[quick mist]

no, WSL is a native Linux environment, you need to fetch the Linux binaries

[sturdy gust]

Oh yeah, lol that too 😄

Hahahaha, unlucky

[unreal crystal]

😭

[sturdy gust]

URL was still present, afterall

[unreal crystal]

curl -Lo linuxgsm.sh https://[fuck]linuxgsm.[fixthisshit]sh && chmod +x linuxgsm.sh && bash linuxgsm.sh sfserver

linuxgsm blesses

[half wind]

That's a lot of pulls but I have to imagine some percentage of that is people who only know because they needed it and did some homework

[sturdy gust]

@versed turret you seem deadset against Docker, but if you did want to try it, just install Docker on Windows, and follow https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server

[sturdy gust]

Yeah for sure 🙂

[half wind]

which is... often how it works

[quick mist]

curl into bash is almost as categorically bad advice as "just run it as root"

[half wind]

but root adds danger, danger fun

[quick mist]

FCVO "fun"

[unreal crystal]

tbf you either know or you know bout linuxgsm. but their first step is explicitly not being root

[sturdy gust]

Haha rm -rf / go brrr

[half wind]

Yeah don't stop me... if I wanna rm -rf something then damnuit i want it gone

[sturdy gust]

At that point, if you're just after Satisfactory, surely it's easier to just use steamcmd 😄

[half wind]

I wonder what percentage of linux users learn the hard way at some point -raises hand-

[unreal crystal]

yeah but ./sfserver update > steamcmd update 7750110

or w/e app code

[sturdy gust]

Just chuck it in a shell script, it's still one line with the same info

[worldly sandal]

Hey does any of you know if it's possible to set a server on mac? I'm sharing a game with 2 friends and so far they need to join my local game

[limber iron]

is there any free online servers to join rn?

[half wind]

I would never ever accidentally delete those impor aaaand they're gone

[quick mist]

I can go one better- I accidentally did that with other machines' drives mounted read-write over CIFS

[sturdy gust]

Wrong channel 🙂

[limber iron]

Where do i go?

[quick mist]

"wait why is that drive thrashing.. oh [bleep]"

[sturdy gust]

#1201555265942724758

[mild cloud]

Is there an updated pterodactyl egg for servers? 🙂

[half wind]

back in the day there was "malware" that would cause you're floppy drive to spaz out

[sturdy gust]

You can modify the launch params for one of them

[half wind]

guess in theory it could do some physical damage if you just let it keep going not sure...

auint nobody trying to sit around and hear that noise tho so...

[unreal crystal]

😛 linuxgsm also sets up monitoring and auto updating; and a lot of help with all the configs for games.

ngl i can't do linux hosting without it lmao; i love the way it works.

errything in serverfiles; configs in lgsm/configs.

[sturdy gust]

That's fair enough man! Docker though, even simpler, one Compose file for everything and you're set 😎

[unreal crystal]

auto backups n stuff too

[quick mist]

are you in their marketing team or something?

[half wind]

yeah the one thing i've ever run in docker is super simple to keep up with

[quick mist]

because all that stuff can be done easily for free

[half wind]

my imich instance is docker

[sturdy gust]

Wait, is it paid?

[unreal crystal]

and? lmfao it's all free

lololol

it's linux game server manager; it's just install scripts to help you install it locally

[sturdy gust]

Simmer down man, it's not that deep 🙂

[half wind]

I use it, it's nice but I have to imagine manually isn't much more effort heh

[quick mist]

By "free" I mean "without the cost of going to a third party for overengineered scripts"

[half wind]

and a docker container is... well mind numbingly easy

[quick mist]

because those doofy scripts they offer are a cost.

[unreal crystal]

it's quite literally just a standardized program for managing configs + interacting with steamcmd.

[sturdy gust]

My whole angle for the Docker container is that all of the annoying workaround crap is handled for you. You can know that it works as expected

[edgy pasture]

I’m using the docker container… and it’s pretty slick.

[unreal crystal]

so if steamcmd is expensive then well you might need to rebuild the entire market

[sturdy gust]

My guy, are you on their team? Hahaha

[unreal crystal]

😄

[quick mist]

you know what's more standardized? the original distribution method and cron and systemd

[sturdy gust]

I wouldn't say it's the standardized program, that's definitely an echo chamber man 😄

I've never used it, nor do I know anybody that has

But of course, that's because I mostly know other engineers who use Docker 😄

[unreal crystal]

standard vs standardized.

[sturdy gust]

Echo chambers and all that

[unreal crystal]

learn 2 read pls.

[sturdy gust]

Rah

[half wind]

Just a standard script that streamlines stuff you'd otherwise do manually

[quick mist]

I looked into it and walked away knowing I've written better scripts in my sleep while hung over

[sturdy gust]

You need to calm it hahaha

[half wind]

a small time saver at best tbh

[sturdy gust]

It's a nice convenience, I imagine 🙂

Let's leave it there 😄

[normal flicker]

shame systemd and docker essentially do the same thing, systemd does quite a few things really well in regards to service management
systemd-nspawn especially has that sort of integration with the stack

[half wind]

Yeah you can get them for... a lot of crap

[unreal crystal]

xd got erryone jumping on my dick for something that just helps when spinning up and down erry random game server to see how it is lmao.

[sturdy gust]

Well, they're totally different haha

[half wind]

some work better than others, LGSM does seem to work well though

[quick mist]

systemd and docker do completely different things, what are you on about?

[unreal crystal]

i've spent so much time on the minecraft n arma stuff getting it working

.> so many headless clients

[sturdy gust]

✨ Docker ✨

[normal flicker]

I was mostly thinking about the service management side of things from docker but yeah, they're not supposed to be the same lol

[sturdy gust]

I know they're not, you're the one that said they were 🤣 I get you though 😄

[half wind]

Well I hate to disappoint but... I'll probably not move to docker for much lol

[unreal crystal]

LXCs > docker

[sturdy gust]

Different strokes for different folks!

[quick mist]

the fact that "docker and systemd are the same" came from the same fingers as "linuxgsm is great" speaks volumes

[sturdy gust]

Totally different use-cases

[half wind]

Well I'll be using proxmox so seems a bit... pointless

[sturdy gust]

Disagree 🙂

[half wind]

unless there is some benefit im missing

[sturdy gust]

I run Docker containers on my Proxmox host for pre-made solutions, then use LXC for custom stuff that wouldn't make sense within Docker

[unreal crystal]

nah my proxmox totally runs docker; there's a few programs that just aren't worth the time n energy

[quick mist]

I won't bang my drum right now, there's enough adversarial conversation in here as it is tonight (:

[sturdy gust]

Docker is all about one process per container where it makes sense to do so, LXC is totally different

They're both containers, yes, but that's where the similarities stop 🙂 Different use-cases

[quick mist]

what I will say is that I'm glad Docker is an option for those who don't find it to just be an unnecessary shim

it's just not for me (:

[sturdy gust]

Fully understandable!

To each their own 😄

[unreal crystal]

they take away my emojis; my ability to shitpost emotions is ruined; only angri texts

[sturdy gust]

As we're learning from this conversation hahaha

[sturdy gust]

It's so annoying not having them hahaha

[quick mist]

so many emotes I could be using but there are also so many questionable ones out there I understand why only local onces are allowed on a guild this big

[edgy pasture]

I already had docker set up for other stuff…

So one more compose file to get a nice server service up and running was very convenient.

[sturdy gust]

What I will say, Kubernetes for orchestration for production workloads makes life much, much easier as a software engineer. Wouldn't be possible without Docker 😄

[quick mist]

something something Ansible 😄

[sturdy gust]

I put all of my games under the same Compose file, personaly 😄

[sturdy gust]

Fuuuuuck Ansible

It's fine, but my lord you couldn't pay me enough to use it over Docker

[unreal crystal]

xd i just wanna know what money erryone thinks i'm getting from the open source project with no dono links lmao. i'm absolutely lazy. i have a dude that has a bunch of proxmox install scripts too xD

[sturdy gust]

Bro it's just not that deep homie haha

[quick mist]

well it's for entirely different things than Docker so I wouldn't suggest it as an alternative

[sturdy gust]

Completely agree

But you brought it up as a counter point 😘

[unreal crystal]

smfh it's the dedi server channel; get that server hosting monies mindset outta hereeee; is insulting /s

[quick mist]

to Kubes, not Docker (:

[sturdy gust]

Yeah, but the same applies 😄

[unreal crystal]

my FOSS solution > your foss solution; just standard gladiator duels

[sturdy gust]

Ansible can't really be compared with Kubernetes

[quick mist]

can we at least fight about something worth fighting over, like vim vs. emacs? 😄

[sturdy gust]

HAHAHAHA

But for real, emacs users are insane

[half wind]

how many USENET posts did i see about that hot mess

[sturdy gust]

Not that I even really use vim, but still

[edgy pasture]

Nano!

[quick mist]

emacs would be a great OS if only they would include a good text editor

[sturdy gust]

It has it's place 🙂

[unreal crystal]

i use nano but only because its the only editor i know how to call

[deep turret]

micro you crazy

[edgy pasture]

Lol

[half wind]

nanoo nanoo

oh wait that's something else

[civic haven]

Hello all. Someone maybe has a tip for me? There is no todo list anymore on my server. Local game works. I still restarted the server. Where to look at please?

[deep turret]

you want that copy paste mouse select ability

[quick mist]

That's certainly strange

[sturdy gust]

I saw micro and thought, meh, I'm not using nano for anything remotely serious anyway

[unreal crystal]

has anyone else broken their server once they reached the blueprint manager?

xd still seem to be the only one complaining. i go to clear the building and it crashes the server pretty reliably.

[civic haven]

yes it is. i can right click, and it allows me to add and remove, but there is no display on right screen

[sturdy gust]

I still haven't had the chance to even play 🙃

[half wind]

me either... verified my server seems ok... seems...

[quick mist]

todo works fine for me on my server:

[civic haven]

it worked yesterday also.

[sturdy gust]

Even stranger!

[unreal crystal]

i nevermade it to blueprints before so i was pretty hype; working on my first series of assemblers n constructors.

got like the 5th assemblers + 10 ish constructors all plumbed in and then it all crashed when i went to clear it out after saving it.

[half wind]

Gotta love those major update growing pains 😄

[deep turret]

I just loaded my old save and a new one so I could try onboarding
and the old save my hypertube cyclotrons are broken, I keep spinning even after the hypertube entries are down
I should test on local game

[edgy pasture]

This is funny if you are running your server on a machine that is not the one you are using for interface.

REMOTELY serious.

[half wind]

they'll iron it all out

[quick mist]

there was one other person earlier who had blueprint issues that were crashing his server.. he downloaded the save and it was crashing his client too. he had to use the save editor to un-"curse" the save

[half wind]

I haven't played a ton but I've owned the game a long time and in my experience it's always been consistently good with no major problems that I saw personally

[civic haven]

u see...i can click...but no display right side

[half wind]

so I have faith in those guys

[unreal crystal]

ahhh i haven't tried downloading the save yet. was wondering if i just had to manually clear it out and pray the contamination was gone or wait for a hotfix.

idk timelines and expectations

[deep turret]

wait a second, is it crashing game if you run save with blueprints you do not have in local files ?
maybe that's how my save test been crashing this whole time

[unreal crystal]

my crash was explicitly when telling the blueprint manager to clear itself + put errything into the storage bin

[quick mist]

Wood apparently had some specific "cursed" parts in his blueprints that were making them give the game an allergic reaction

[terse lynx]

I just scrolled back to see if the API error was fixed and saw people were chatting throughout the night, dont people sleep?

[quick mist]

hahaha we're factory game players! What is this 'sleep' of which you speak?

[edgy pasture]

They do not

[unreal crystal]

real FCSIT employees minmax their sleep cycles to the minimum needed REM cycles per night 🙏

[half wind]

Much like "this is my last turn" in civ 5, in SF it's like 'i'll just finish this one more thing..."

[quick mist]

unconsciousness is not productive.

[half wind]

30 turns later...

[civic haven]

where do the save games goto? maybe i can go one or 2 saves back?

[quick mist]

"I just need to fix this one belt" :dawn breaks: "aw, man, again‽"

[half wind]

I was in the hospital a couple years back wuith my laptop playing civ 5 and a nurse came in to take me and I was jmust messing around going "cmon just ONE MORE TURN"

she looked at me like i was a nutjob, as she should 😄

[quick mist]

what up fellow "on tenterhooks for Civ VII" buddy

[sage jolt]

Short and hopefully simple question.
Locally hosted server - accessible from outside everything is fine.

Only one problem, the server does not continue to run when nobody is online. Before 1.0 this worked without problems.
Am I just missing a setting here? :/

[half wind]

Side note Emory in Atlanta has some HOT nurses... good lordy

[quick mist]

Look in the Server Manager for server settings, there's an option for "pause when no players are connected"

[latent portal]

nope, thats not it, i unchecked that option and it doesnt go and yes, it worked before the patch

[quick mist]

it's working for me

[unreal crystal]

yea; that should be working just fine; no problems here with that

[quick mist]

'gamePhase': "/Script/FactoryGame.FGGamePhase'/Game/FactoryGame/GamePhases/GP_Project_Assembly_Phase_0.GP_Project_Assembly_Phase_0'", 'isGameRunning': True, 'totalGameDuration': 71, 'isGamePaused': True, 

[unreal crystal]

did you hit apply after unchecking it?

[latent portal]

of course i applied

the thing is when I the host exit the game but have the dedicated server still open, the server shuts down for every player even if still connected

[muted sandal]

Any news about the IPv6 Binding of the API Server (TCP/7777) ?

[sage jolt]

I think you mean autopause?
It is deactivated yet the server is paused

[terse lynx]

How can a person be typing at 3am in the morning and still now. Robots, no sleep

[grim dew]

Where is documentation located for the .exe flags?

[dim finch]

Platform: Windows 11, hosting and joining server from the same machine

After entering and exiting the dedicated server, it shuts down UDP/7777 for both IPv4 and IPv6, resulting in a need to restart the server. However, if you host and play from SEPARATE machines, then this is a non-issue.

Does anyone have a potential fix? I've used the -ini:Engine:[HTTPServer.Listeners]:DefaultBindAddress=any in the pins, but it hasn't done anything different in this regard

[sturdy gust]

Known issue

Nothing you can do about it, other than host it elsewhere

[terse lynx]

Is it still a issue if you host it from a different user account on the same machine?

[civic haven]

Ok...just for your information...loading a save did fix the todo list bug. but idk how i produced it or what went wrong....

[sturdy gust]

I don't know for sure, but I would suspect so, yes

[midnight wave]

Guys anything to alter the server from preventing starting from TIER 2 ?

[terse lynx]

Worth a test if someone is having the issue

[sturdy gust]

That's the neat part, there isn't any

[sturdy gust]

Try loading a fresh save, or create a save locally and then upload it to the server

[grim dew]

How neat.

[unreal crystal]

Unhandled Exception: SIGSEGV: invalid attempt to write memory at address 0x0000000000000003

[2024.09.12-10.06.42:561][618]LogCore: Assertion failed: mConnectedComponent->IsConnected() [File:.\../../FactoryGame/Source/FactoryGame/Private/FGFactoryConnectionComponent.cpp] [Line: 135] 
Attempted to disconnect an already disconnected connection: FGFactoryConnectionComponent /Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persistent_Level.Persistent_Level:PersistentLevel.Build_AssemblerMk1_C_2146252690.Input0 <-> FGFact```

Went back to actually look and it seems to do with a corrupted connection/building; my blueprint instant crash fun

[dim finch]

I appreciate the info, I feel like I've made every decision possible to alleviate the problem lol

[barren raven]

Had the same issue, reinstalling the game did not work. Seems like a visual bug

[edgy pasture]

According to the last thing in this https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fedhk5/10_known_issues_and_workarounds/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) post, they are working on it.

There’s also this… where an extra upvote to let them know we care might not be a bad idea.

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/66e07c9e772a987f4a8a9c1e

I guess the way to completely experience the beginning of the game with friends is something like this:

1. Everyone watch the planetfall sequence in their own single player game.

2. Host player opens their game up to multiplayer after exiting the pod, and then other players join and play through until Tier 2 is unlocked.

3. Host player uploads the gamesave to the dedicated server and loads it, and everyone joins and plays from there as usual.

Maybe that’s more complicated than it needs to be… but that’s what I see for now.
Seems a bit janky.

[sturdy gust]

I'm working on compiling a troubleshooting/FAQ page @quick mist. Let me know if you can think of anything else: https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server/wiki/Troubleshooting-FAQ

[barren raven]

Think we need to make a bug report of it, I unfortunately don't have any data yet tho

[quick mist]

One thing that comes to mind for "none of my friends can connect!" is that some ISPs don't play well with IPv6, and if you're using DNS and it resolves to IPv6 and IPv4, try manually using the IPv4 address or declaring a hostname that only resolves to an A record and not an AAAA record.

[topaz echo]

so i found out after much deliberation and hair pulling

[sturdy gust]

Thank you!

[topaz echo]

that if you run a dedicated server on the same machine you try to play as -- when you disconnect it makes the server stop listening to port 7777 and boots everyone else off and can no longer re-connect

[quick mist]

That's listed as a known issue

[topaz echo]

cool

I thought I was going insane lol

had to put the dedi on my mom's computer lmao

[grim dew]

A server is just a computer anyway. So not much difference really.

Except performance prob*

[topaz echo]

Her newer i5 is faster than my older i9 I think lol

[formal gate]

did they fix the server issue :-)?

[unreal crystal]

I feel like this comment should get an honorary shout https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/1fedhk5/10_known_issues_and_workarounds/lmo8pi6/

praise pet coal

i'm still trying to track down which assemblerr is throwing a fit. it's not the first 2-3 i removed 👀

[deep turret]

it's not a bug its a feature, worship the coal or the coal gen will refuse to work for you

[topaz echo]

we had no issiues lol

just got coal setup

[unreal crystal]

well i figured out my problem; i have an assembler that straight up "ghosted" and doesnt exist on my server/save

cant even look at it with the dissasembly tool; but its still there

[deep turret]

it's time to add game settings back

[fierce night]

remember this channel is about dedicated servers 🙂

[deep turret]

yep sorry

[fierce night]

dw

[topaz echo]

there should be a technical support channel

[unreal crystal]

It is; it's crashing my dedicated server reliably every time I try to do things

[sturdy gust]

Woah, mods do exist here? 😱 😛

[fierce night]

Ikr :p

[topaz echo]

because asking in #satisfactory doesn't help because you get shadowed by everyone raving about the game

[quick mist]

like #1038092680493801533 ?

[fierce night]

... or the QA site

[topaz echo]

ah

[sturdy gust]

@fierce night is it possible to get my FAQ pinned to this channel? I've been one of the most active people in this channel since 1.0 dropped, and am trying to help cut down on repeated messages 🙂

[fierce night]

unfortunately, we can't due to us having to verify each answer, etc. - oftentimes ppl suggest really bad stuff lol

still appreciate your work 🙂

[sturdy gust]

That's fair enough 🙂 Though, we do already have a pin to my message for API docs and such 😄 But completely understand!

[fierce night]

ye because Archengius went over all pins 😄

[quick mist]

I can understand the hesitation to linking to a third-party CMS that isn't already adopted as an "official unofficial" wiki or somesuch

[frosty gale]

Unhandled Exception: SIGSEGV: invalid attempt to read memory at address 0x0000000000000000```

anyone know why this is happening?

[sturdy gust]

Well, given the lack of context, sadly not. Most likely a game bug, or hardware issue

[languid palm]

Maby smart to make topics under deticated server
Linux and windows. Everything is a mess now

[quick mist]

the OS murdered the server for trying to access memory it wasn't allocated

[sturdy gust]

The same information more or less applies to all of them

[quick mist]

beyond that it's hard to say

[frosty gale]

i could send the whole log if that helps

[languid palm]

Btw my windows server runs stable now from yesterday morning, playing with 4 people

[regal marsh]

threads might make it easier to get something answered
otherwise you just have to spam it here until answer or it gets lost

[sturdy gust]

At this time of day it's not so bad, but you're absolutely right

[tired osprey]

I found a workaround for the 'cannot claim server' issue - when the server is on a different PC (under Linux). Where is the best place to write it up and share? Or does everyone know the answer already.

[quick mist]

Just post it here, Wolv might add it to the guide they're maintaining

or it might get added to the wiki-- or you could add it to the wiki yourself (:

but do share (:

[raven gull]

Yo o/
Question; do any of you playing on dedicated have rubber-banding / delay of about 1s when going further away from your "starter base"?
We are almost at Tier 5, and this problem only comes up when we are in another biome / away more than 1km from the HUB, for all players
Server itself has not much load, only about 20% cpu usage and 3GB RAM

[sturdy gust]

How is the single core performance of your CPU? How is your networking?

[topaz echo]

I got one lag complaint that quickly went away

[raven gull]

one sec, need to look it up; im hosting on a hetzner cloud server with your docker image
Networking should be fine, my friend has gigabit fiber connection and still lags

[tired osprey]

OK - root cause is that TCP port 7777 is only listening to localhost, but UDP is listening on all interfaces. This can be seen with the following command:

$ sudo ss -lntup | grep -E 'Recv-Q|Fact'
Netid State  Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address:Port  Peer Address:PortProcess                                                  
udp   UNCONN 0      0             0.0.0.0:7777       0.0.0.0:*    users:(("FactoryServer-L",pid=67024,fd=14))             
tcp   LISTEN 0      16          127.0.0.1:7777       0.0.0.0:*    users:(("FactoryServer-L",pid=67024,fd=13))          

The workaround is to use socat to forward that connection:

sudo apt install socat
socat TCP4-LISTEN:7777,bind=<server IP address>,fork TCP:localhost:7777

[sturdy gust]

Oof, CPU will probably be your problem

Game servers, Satisfactory included, are very CPU single core performance dependant

[quick mist]

socat is a clever fix for that failure mode!

[topaz echo]

interesting

I wonder if that has anything to do with running dedi/client on same machine

or similar

[raven gull]

mh hoped that wouldn't be the case, cause I can only scale for more CPU cores, not better dedication

[tired osprey]

If you run it on the same machine, it should work - it can connect TCP to localhost.

[raven gull]

weirdly, driving in the explorer doesn't seem affected

[safe haven]

There's a CLI option in the pinned messages that can be used to resolve this issue.
-ini:Engine:[HTTPServer.Listeners]:DefaultBindAddress=any

(I had the same problem on my own server.)

[tired osprey]

ignore me - different question.

[tired osprey]

Great - I'll try that. I tried -multihome but that didn't fix it.

[quick mist]

that switch was broken with 1.0, they're going to bring it back in a patch soon

™️

[tired osprey]

The command line workaround in the pinned messages is the better way to ficsit.

[safe haven]

I wouldn't mind if it was the default behaviour, honestly. It's probably less common that you want to restrict what it's binding to, versus issues where it's binding to a loopback address.

[quick mist]

it's supposed to bind to all interfaces; binding only to loopback is a bug

[frosty gale]

wrong place

[grim dew]

Any way to get mods in a dedicated server?

[quick mist]

yes. Step 1 is to wait until compatible mods are developed

[grim dew]

Would I be able to just test first if the mod is broken. Or are we sure 100% of mods are broken

[quick mist]

the game itself and the way the servers work have both changed pretty substantially since the prior release. As such there is no documentation on how to integrate mods with them.

||that I am currently aware of||

[calm crow]

Playing the third time everytime after a while i get this error and the save / world is gone

[deep turret]

I had that part in [/Script/Engine.Player] section before
could it be a typo ?

[dusty vortex]

Memory streaming question:
I notice 1.0 hovers around the 4gb ram usage levels.
So I'm assuming streaming is enabled.
In U8 there was an option to disable it to gain a bit more performance by loading more of the world into ram, often climbing to 12gb+.
Do we know, is that still an option for 1.0?
(I got the ram and happy to use it if it helps overall).
🫡

[deep turret]

I will try with it enabled see if it changes something

it should not harm the engine, it's easier to manage ressources not streamed

[dusty vortex]

Happy to try myself, I can do some homeworks (tho much appreciation to take a look and share your findings), just figured I'd ask in case others might have tried already 👍

[sturdy gust]

Pretty sure it's still an option

[dusty vortex]

Will give it a whirl and see what happens / share my feedback.
Cheers

[deep turret]

I'm in the process of updating/revising/editing my config files

[dusty vortex]

Currently on a lunch break at work so something I'll try later perhaps. Cheers again 🙂

[primal anchor]

Question, is a i5-8300H good enough to host a server or is it to sllw

[warm linden]

i think it should be fine .. i host a server in a older HPE gen 9 cou that only has like 3.2 ghz and already runs 3 ark servers

though a disclaimner i have never tried that on a large game save .. just started

[cursive raptor]

there are some factory saves to download - get one, let it run a few mins and look how many ticks you get.

[dusty vortex]

It will get you started, not sure if many here have yet reached end tier to really give much of a solid answer about how far you might get before performance issues.
For U8 it seemed not so great, but 1.0 has had improvements so it may get you further than most of us have yet to experience

[primal anchor]

Okay sick, my actual server's cpu is to old to run it and a friend found a laptop I can take off his hands. I just wanna make sure that everything will work

[dusty vortex]

It should work, but not sure we can give an honest answer for how far it will take you.

[woeful willow]

Sorry for asking again, but I haven't work on that for 2 days, but do we have a solution for the Windows and SteamCMD "Offline, servername pending, not authenticated" problem? Just to recall it, the server seems to be running on my server pc, but I can't connect locally on my gaming pc (local IP) and friends don't see it with my external IP. It just appears offline, but the server seems to detect my PC (it shows "NotifiyAcceptingConnection accepted from: [::ffff:MyIPadress]:64555). All ports are opened, in fact, server was running great without any issues in update8.
Thank you in advance!

[dusty vortex]

Share your feedback as you go, will help others here to guage what's good enough or not 👍

[gleaming pike]

if you cant connect locally then its probably a firewall issue on the server pc.

did you for sure open on UDP and TCP ?

[dark kite]

Does server keep running while nobody is connected and if not how can i enable that?

[gleaming pike]

the admin enables it in the server manager in satisfactory. its a tick box.

[dark kite]

ok thx i am blind jesus

[gleaming pike]

i knew you'd make a final appearance

sorry - early morning dad jokes.

[compact swan]

Has anyone gotten the docker image to work on a Raspberry Pi?

[sturdy gust]

No

It doesn't work

Because Satisfactory doesn't support ARM64

[compact swan]

boooo

ty

[woeful willow]

I'm not a pro, but it was working before and now it's not. And from my understanding, the port is now only 7777, right? Not 7777-7778, 15000 and 15777. Anyway, my 4 rules (TCP-UDP in and TCP UDP out) are autorising all the old ports. Could that be the problem?

[ashen badger]

Hello. I have a problem with my dedicated server. I use the GitHub project here -> https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server I create the server via the docker-compose. The server is up. I can join from the management server but when I go to join the server by typing the ip I get an error "Encryption Token Missing".
I opened port 7777 in udp and tcp on my firewall.
Do you know what I missed? I would like my friends to join me.
Thank you in advance for your help.

[sturdy gust]

You need to join using the server manager, not the join game menu 🙂

[gleaming pike]

7777 is the only port needed TCP&UDP.

[woeful willow]

But having more ports opened shouldn't be a problem, right?

[gleaming pike]

In theory no, but with all the weird problems lately, maybe.

[ashen badger]

Thank you very much for your answer. Does that mean my friends will be admins too? Is this a bug or is it the devs' intention?

[gleaming pike]

no, only the first person to join using the server manager is an admin. (the very first time)

everyone else is considered a client

[sturdy gust]

No, it's just how everyone joins 🙂

@gleaming pike they really need to make that error message clearer 😄

[dim finch]

If they add your server and don't use the Admin pass, they will say "client" instead of "administrator"

[sturdy gust]

Oh @gleaming pike now that you're online, I started working on a FAQ: https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server/wiki/Troubleshooting-FAQ

[ashen badger]

Thank you very much for your quick answers. Have a nice day.

[sturdy gust]

You too bud, enjoy!

[gleaming pike]

'my server is hanging, or stuck on starting, why?'
:: it's likely that you haven't set up the server in server manager yet, and it's waiting for your admin pass etc.

However you wanna word that

That's a common one too

[sturdy gust]

Added, thanks!

Also added the Encryption Token issue

[gleaming pike]

btw New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Allow Satisfactory default inbound port udp" -Direction Inbound -Action Allow -EdgeTraversalPolicy Allow -Protocol UDP -LocalPort 7777 New-NetFirewallRule -DisplayName "Allow Satisfactory default inbound port tcp" -Direction Inbound -Action Allow -EdgeTraversalPolicy Allow -Protocol TCP -LocalPort 7777
is on the satisfactory wiki for opening ports via powershell on windows.

[sturdy gust]

😬

[edgy karma]

Did anyone manage to be able to join the dedicated server (docker wolveix) from outside LAN?
When I try to join from same LAN by domain name I can join just fine.
But when someone else tries to add the server to server manager it appears to be offline.
Also when I test while connected on an external VPN It also appears to be offline

I forwarded port 7777 udp/tcp
Server is running in docker on a synology nas and behind udm pro

[sturdy gust]

Yes

It works

You haven't port forwarded

Or you need to allow a port through your firewall

Please read https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server/wiki/Troubleshooting-FAQ

[woeful willow]

Updated all my rules to have only 7777 opened. Modified my exception on my modem to forward only 7777, restarted the server pc, still the same problem... 😢

[sturdy gust]

Are you using the workaround from the pinned messages?

[dusty vortex]

'from same LAN by domain' - this is the clue.... your router may not have NAT-hairpin / NAT-loopback supported or enabled.

its what enables you to use a public domain address to connect to resources inside the same network.
Most ISP provided routers tend to disable this or simply not support it.
You can use the inetnal IP instead.

[sturdy gust]

Also ensure that your launch doesn't include multihome

[sturdy gust]

It's a UDM Pro 😄

[edgy karma]

I also tried to connect to my public IP and still the same problem

[sturdy gust]

Read the FAQ, there's a networking issue 🙂

[dusty vortex]

then look at firewalls 🙂

[woeful willow]

My launcher is in the same file as the FactoryServer.exe, so my .bat file is this: .\FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
I'll retry with the "-ini:Engine:[HTTPServer.Listeners]:DefaultBindAddress=any" command. I put it before the -log of after, just to be sure...lol

[sturdy gust]

-unattended is meaningless, by the way 🙂

[dusty vortex]

i seen a LOT of folks struggling with using domain addresses from their own networks pre1.0, while using routers that did not support or enable the NAT-hairpin feature... it caused a lot of issues and some user education was required.
just trying to tackle the low hanging fruit 🫡

[sturdy gust]

Yeah, my FAQ mentions using an IP first to rule out various issues too 😄

[dusty vortex]

wise.

[dusty vortex]

and just for clarification... you tried the internal IP also not just your public IP ?

[sturdy gust]

Also covered in the FAQ 😄

[deep turret]

seems to work fine 5GB, a bit more cpu but not a lot more at 90 tick rate

[dusty vortex]

not needed to use it, so not yet read it lol

[edgy karma]

When I'm NOT on a vpn to test remote access I can join fine by internal ip and domain name
When I test while connected on a vpn then i cannot join by external ip or domain name

Testing internal ip from a remote location is pointless

[gleaming pike]

I ran 144 tickrate but stuff starting doing some really strange things in game 😄

[main kiln]

hello, do someone know if ShockByte works with the satisfactory dedicated servers? and if they use the latest 1.0

[sturdy gust]

Apparently not yet, they're waiting for the patch from Coffee Stain

[gleaming pike]

Someone came in last night with issues through Shockbyte and couldn't get it working.

[deep turret]

I just have to increase uobject number now and retry The Dunes

[main kiln]

alright thanks!

[dusty vortex]

not useless, it helps confirm that from at least inside your network, the server is functional, plenty of folks miss firewall configs (thinking they only need router setup)... again i bet its in Wolveix FAQ 😂

[gleaming pike]

I felt bad for the one guy last night i almost hosted him myself.

[torn eagle]

,,

Hi