dedicated-servers

[amber wolf]

sorry if someone has asked this, do we know if existing games on a dedicated server will work with 1.0? I assume so?

[hollow jewel]

there will be map, recipe, and resource node changes
I think everyone is recommending to start a new save

[amber wolf]

fair enough is it straight forward to update the server? sorry not played for a while

[dusty vortex]

If your be using steamCMD then relatively yes.
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#SteamCMD

[wicked knot]

With steam tools, it will queue for updates just like any other game

[dusty vortex]

If the server is installed via steamCMD then it won't update the server until you instruct it too.
Thankfully super easy to do tho.

[wicked knot]

And if installed via steam GUI "tools", it works like any game does

it queues for the update, and wont restart until done

[loud furnace]

Do we know if there are going to be any major changes to how dedicated servers are going to be set up/run in 1.0 release?

Im sure im not alone here when I say at 5pmCST on tuesday I will be attempting to get a dedicated server online for friends

[dusty vortex]

we know the networking ports used are going to change.
#announcements message

[loud furnace]

how did I miss this video??? Thank you!

Do we have any idea if support for SRV records will be added? Not mentioned in the video

[coral rose]

While an interesting idea to support, I’d have to say I doubt it. As far as I’m aware not a lot of game servers support SRV records.

That said we still don’t know what improvements have been made to the DS yet

[unreal flume]

Anyone know how to get the dedicated server running in Docker? I tried using this guide from Github, but I've not been able to conenct to it. https://github.com/wolveix/satisfactory-server

I'm setting up a home server and one of my goals is to have all my game servers running in docker containers managed by Portainer. Any tips or advice is much appreciated.

[coral rose]

I run it via docker. What’s console showing when you attempt to connect?

[glacial ginkgo]

neat. the only issue I see is them only mentioning 'the game will now tell you when it is saving', and nothing about optimization of saving. which means later game you are looking at being punted every autosave

[dusty vortex]

potentially true yes.
tho that said... if your getting punted during autosave then its a clear indicator that perhaps the system its running from is not quite up to the task.

[glacial ginkgo]

not quite up to the task.
5900X at full boost
64GB ram

what machine is up to the task?

[dusty vortex]

when i ran u8 on a slower system (Xeon E5-2694-v4), i experienced such punting, when running it on a faster system (i9-13900), no punting was experienced.

[glacial ginkgo]

it vaguely sounds like your world wasn't quite as extensive as ours

[dusty vortex]

may well be so.
lord help us all.

[unreal flume]

nothing. The game thinks the server is offline.

I did notice that when I first setup the server, it has an internal IP for the container and published ports like it's supposed to, but after running for some time, those disappear.

I deployed it in portainer by pasting the docker compose script in a stack.

services:
    satisfactory-server:
        container_name: 'satisfactory-server'
        hostname: 'satisfactory-server'
        image: 'wolveix/satisfactory-server:latest'
        ports:
            - '7777:7777/udp'
            - '15000:15000/udp'
            - '15777:15777/udp'
        volumes:
            - '/home/earthserpent/games/satisfactory/config:/config'
        environment:
            - MAXPLAYERS=4
            - PGID=1000
            - PUID=1000
            - ROOTLESS=false
            - STEAMBETA=false
            - serverip=192.168.0.103
        restart: unless-stopped
        deploy:
          resources:
            limits:
              memory: 6G
            reservations:
              memory: 4G

I feel like I'm missing a beat here. I have the square brain.

[rapid spindle]

I use the same docker image and it works normally. I don't pass it a server IP though.

[glacial ginkgo]

immich.gullible.monster/share/Za4SPyT9DtPUsIWwG0wCkJ3IedE64QCdm-aIlWzTGvaieXBKa9F9v2HH_BG09NTgucI

[rapid spindle]

Could it be a portrainer thing? Can you connect if you run the container on its own?

[glacial ginkgo]

If host mode is an option for you:```yaml
version: "3.9"
services:
satisfactory-server:
container_name: satisfactory
hostname: satisfactory
image: wolveix/satisfactory-server:latest
user: 1000:1000
network_mode: host
volumes:
- /home/satisfactory/config:/config
restart: unless-stopped
environment:
- AUTOPAUSE=true
- AUTOSAVEINTERVAL=3600
- AUTOSAVENUM=30
- AUTOSAVEONDISCONNECT=false
- MAXOBJECTS=5120000
- MAXPLAYERS=3
- MAXTICKRATE=20
- NETWORKQUALITY=3
- PGID=1000
- PUID=1000
- ROOTLESS=true
- SERVERIP=192.168.2.49
- SKIPUPDATE=${skipupdate}
- STEAMBETA=false
- TIMEOUT=30
deploy:
resources:
reservations:
memory: 18G
cpus: "10"
mode: global
restart_policy:
condition: on-failure
delay: 10s

[unreal flume]

host mode?

[hollow jewel]

I have not run this container yet, but passing PGID and PUID while "rootless=false" seems odd to me? I'd expect rootless=true if you want to give it group/user-ids

[glacial ginkgo]

instead of docker listening on the ports and forwarding the traffic, setting network_mode to host will just let the server listen on the ports itself

[rapid spindle]

the docker image has some compatibility issues so its normal for it to run as root now

[glacial ginkgo]

it can give you the slightest performance boost by removing the middle man docker from the equation

[unreal flume]

well, I'm using it for a singleplayer playthrough for 1.0 initially (so I can run my factories 24/7 even when my desktop is off at night) but I do intend to make this available outside my network eventually so my friends can join.

[hollow jewel]

setting network_mode to host will still work for that, it just removes a layer of protection and rewriting

but have you looked at the logs of the container yet? maybe there's some info in there 🙂

[unreal flume]

ok. yeah, eventually I plan to get nginx and SSL certs all sorted out. my goal is to have a domain address I can give my friends for connecting without needing to do port forwarding on my router. But that's wider in scope than just satisfactory. I'll figure that out on my own.

[raw rover]

Hello, do you have a satisfactory hosting recommendation?

[hollow jewel]

connecting without needing to do port forwarding on my router.
unless youre planning on sharing a tailscale, a VPN, or sth like that, that aint happening lol

[unreal flume]

nginx reverse proxy can do that

[hollow jewel]

and how are they gonna get to your nginx server? 😉

[unreal flume]

tried this and I still can't connect

[hollow jewel]

(also NGINX is made for HTTP traffic... I doubt a game server uses the same protocol 😛 )

[unreal flume]

well, that's a problem for future me to solve. Half the reason I set up a home server was to tinker and learn new IT skills.

[hollow jewel]

Time to add learning how to portforward to your list of skills 😉 it's not as hard or scary as it sounds, just don't forward ports you don't need!

[glacial ginkgo]

is the docker host listening on that ip address as well? are you trying to connect to that ip address or are you trying to connect to your WAN ip address on your router?

[unreal flume]

This is what I got in the logs

Checking available memory...31GB detected
Setting autosave number to 30
Setting crash reporting to True
Setting max objects number to 5120000
Setting max tick rate to 20
Setting timeout number to 30
Setting server streaming to 1
Setting timeout number to 30
Setting max players to 3
Setting autosave interval to 3600s
Setting disable seasonal events to 0
Setting network quality number to 3
Setting auto pause to True
Setting autosave on disconnect to False
 Skip update is set, but no game files exist. Updating anyway
Checking available storage...4GB detected
You have less than 8GB (4GB detected) of available storage to download the game.
If this is a fresh install, it will probably fail.
Downloading the latest version of the game...
Redirecting stderr to '/home/steam/.steam/logs/stderr.txt'
Logging directory: '/home/steam/.steam/logs'
[  0%] Checking for available updates...
[----] Verifying installation...
UpdateUI: skip show logoSteam Console Client (c) Valve Corporation - version 1721172922
-- type 'quit' to exit --
Loading Steam API...OK
Connecting anonymously to Steam Public...OK
Waiting for client config...OK
Waiting for user info...OK
 Update state (0x0) unknown, progress: 0.00 (0 / 0)
Error! App '1690800' state is 0x202 after update job.

[hollow jewel]

You have less than 8GB (4GB detected) of available storage to download the game.
If this is a fresh install, it will probably fail.

Looks like your RAM limits are too low?
or maybe not enough storage?

[unreal flume]

This docker instance is running on an Ubuntu Server VM on Proxmox, maybe it doesn't like thin provisioned storage?

[rapid spindle]

storage not ram

check your volume, is it actually saving in the volume on the host?

and if it is, does the disk for your directory have enough space?

[unreal flume]

yeah, I have a secondary volume that's much larger, but it looks like I never attached it to the VM. I need to sort that out and then see how I can configure docker to use that second "game drive" for storage

[rapid spindle]

to be fair, it was a very RAM-like number, 8 and 4GB

[hollow jewel]

and I saw he had a 4gig ram reservation on the container earlier 😂 just completely failed to read the log properly

[unreal flume]

the VM has 32GB assigned to it

my Proxmox server has 128GB of memory and a ryzen 9 5950X

[hollow jewel]

I am now officially jealous of your home server

[unreal flume]

all the VM disks are running on a 2TB mirrored ZFS pool containing two 2TB 990 pro SSD's

[rapid spindle]

And the poor container is eating 4GB of crumbs

[hollow jewel]

that poor container: https://tenor.com/view/hungry-please-sir-may-i-have-some-more-oliver-mark-lester-poor-gif-7821643

awh no gif embeds

[unreal flume]

main storage is a 18TB RAIDZ1 pool managed by a TrueNAS VM with x6 4TB IronWolf Pro's via hardware passthrough to the VM.

[mystic fjord]

enough to make a grown man cry

[lilac pine]

Has there been any word about dedicated servers?

[wicked knot]

They announced major changes like 6 months ago, coming when 1.0 drops tues

[plush chasm]

is it worth to host a dedicated server and the game on the same pc or just use the ingame server

[dusty vortex]

highly not recommended to host server and game on the same system

[dusty vortex]

no, #announcements message

[plush chasm]

is this from experience or a known fact

[dusty vortex]

experience shared by others, for which i took heed to not replicate.
from a technical perspective, its doable, but given how hungry both instances are for resources it not been a recommendation.

[plush chasm]

alright thanks!

[civic cove]

YEah I have tried and it eats resources if you don't have a beefy machine.

I just had my new PSU arrive to power up my Linux machine, old i7 6700k, GTX1080, 16gb RAM on a fresh 900mb Up+Down connection. Should be enough to host a server.

[plush chasm]

hope they have optimised the multiplayer then

when i played in like 0.6 it was rough

[civic cove]

They say they have for 1.0.

[plush chasm]

lets hope they deliver then!

[civic cove]

I haven't bortherd cuz it was crap

[deep turret]

the setup itself saying it have not enough have almost nothing to do with thin provisionning, or it means the thin provisioning is not provisionned at all, as the tool will only see maximum virtual space (and that is not enough still)

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[dusk hemlock]

NEED HELP, I got a server from survival servers and I think I have a game on there but everytime I try to load it just kicks me back to the home screen. What am I doing wrong

[jovial snow]

i founded the files can you help me to encrypt it for me?

[ornate grotto]

You need to reach out to their support team then

[pastel gazelle]

Do you have mods enabled?

[pastel gazelle]

Post the last ~50 lines here, or any errors and the lines around them, maybe someone can help.

[dusk hemlock]

I do have some enabled do I need to turn them off?

[coral rose]

Are they enabled on the server or client side?

(I've never used server side mods, nor do I know if you even can)

[pastel gazelle]

In most cases mods need to be the same on both the client and server (some cosmetic or helper mods are exceptions). Try getting the server working without mods first

[open dune]

Hey got I question if anyone mind helping out, I have a friend who wants to run the dedicated server of his home server. He was going through the wiki on how to start the server but can't start it as the 'FactoryServer.sh' is crashing and he's getting an error from his cpu saying invalid command. So i was wondering if would know a fix?

also to note he just told me his cpu is under the recommendation so if yall have a fix we can try it else we will call it

[glacial ginkgo]

how uptodate is the OS on that machine?

@open dune

Also, what make/model CPU?

[limber onyx]

do we know if multiplayer will be available for 1.0 on release?

[dusk hemlock]

Thanks! I did that and got it working, will have to figure out how to add mods to a server

[pastel gazelle]

My guess: the CPU is not compatible with the game, maybe it's x86_64 code on an x86_32 for example. As @glacial ginkgo said, what's the CPU?

[glacial ginkgo]

There are also some x86_64 cpus that are missing some of the cpu instructions that are used in unreal, and there isn't a software workaround in unreal itself

[glad laurel]

Hey, I got question about version 1.0 dedicated server installation. Can I get ver1.0 dedicated server if I update current version of satisfactory dedicated server when updated file comes up?

[trail kayak]

Are the devs going to release the dedicated servers for 1.0 a few hours early to give server hosts time to install and get the server up and running ready for launch?

lol Deco and I basically asked the same question

I am going to see if I can take that day off work to watch the launch and play it with a friend. but the issues is that 1.0 comes out at 1 am wednesday for me 😦

Im surprised its not a weekend/friday 5pm (coffee stain) time

[bleak cipher]

Will they completely fix multiplayer in 1.0?

[glacial ginkgo]

they said they are making it better and fixing somethings, like only needing one port, and the ipv6 issue. and the server will chirp when it saves. that last bit aludes to me that they haven't fixed the disconnection during saving on large saves

[bleak cipher]

oh

[glacial ginkgo]

they did mention that they are bumping it up higher on the priority ladder for bug fixing

[copper lily]

good thing a lot of us have new saves for 1.0

[civic cove]

Yup brand spanking new lol. I hope it's a better experience when it drops than it was in EA.

[copper lily]

i just setup a dedicated to see how my server is performing and had really bad rollback less then 8h in

😭

so we're setting up another machine with a better CPU just in case

[civic cove]

Ouch. I suppose I should do some testing on mine before Tuesday. It is in fact what I'm going to do right now.

[copper lily]

this was running in a docker within unraid on a 3900x

it may be linux related tbh so we're gonna do windows to start (I hate windows for servers, personally)

[civic cove]

It's been years sine I delved into servers, but I'm running Linux Mint with a i7 6700k with a GTX1080

[copper lily]

hopefully it was a weird localized issue 🙂

we ran our server for nearly a year on my 3900x

[spiral light]

Question (dumb one) can you host and play a dedicated server on the same pc

[civic cove]

Its doable but unless you have a very beefy machine it's not recommended.

[spiral light]

Okay but like. How doable (I have a pc that’s 1000 today)

Like will it run good?

[civic cove]

We were talking about that last night lol.

[spiral light]

Aw I don’t have 2 pcs

Guess I’ll just regular host

[civic cove]

Lots of RAM on very fast SSD's yes you could but need 32gb+

[spiral light]

I have 32gb

[civic cove]

It's worth testing then

[spiral light]

I’ll see if it pans out

Also

[civic cove]

I'm running on a laptop atm till my PIP (disability) then it's a new build

GOt my old i7 WHICH IS NOW MY LINUX SERVER.

sorry caps

[spiral light]

You can download and import save files into the dedicated servers right (just incase smth goes wrong)

[civic cove]

Yup

[spiral light]

I guess it’s work trying

Worth*

[civic cove]

You can just go to the folder where it is via ftp and up or download it.

[spiral light]

K*

Alright thanks

[civic cove]

Nay worries, I need more COFFEE

[spiral light]

Heh me too (it’s 11:26 pm 😭)

[civic cove]

07:20 here and I woke just before 7. For once had a really good sleep but the edibles may have helped with that lol.

[grim mica]

You can actually just upload saves from the client as well via the Server Manager

[glossy tiger]

quick question:
is this good for a dedicated server for 2 player? and we want to play biiiig.
I don´t know if this Kernel is good for satisfactory.

[olive oxide]

Hello, i want to start a server with like 5-6 friends, do someone know how much GB do i need to make it work properly ?

[ripe jolt]

Hello, using Wolveix trying to make a dedicated server using docker compose. The server runs through and starts but I cant seem to connect getting this ERROR (connection timed out) when tryring to connect to the server. I can send the whole console log if anyone can help

[ornate grotto]

1st thing first, remove the IP address from the image, some people are using it to attack servers.
2nd, have you looked at the wiki (pinned in the channel description) to see if -DisablePacketRouting or -multihome options fix the issue?

[ripe jolt]

Using the command lines throws the same error, I may be using them wrong in my container

[ornate grotto]

You only need one or the other, and you could just use -multihome=0.0.0.0

[ripe jolt]

Tried both of them separate with no luck.. unfortunately

Looked online saying I should edit the ini file for my specific use and it said that I should make the connection timeout higher so that it gives my setup time to connect, but there shouldnt be an issue to connect when I'm almost room away from the server

[ornate grotto]

If I'm honest, U8 is a bit if a biatch to troubleshoot when it doesn't work. Just wait 4 days for v1.0 to come out 😄

[ripe jolt]

Maybe you're right, I am not going to play on this server either way. Wanting to see if I could setup a server for satisfactory before v1.0 so it wouldnt take so long on launch day

[ornate grotto]

v1.0 is supposed to be a lot easier to set up and run, so any experience on setting up a server will be minimum use anyway 🙂

[mystic fjord]

hey guys, every time i make a world via server manager it skips to tier2 and skips the tutorial. anyone know how i can change that?

[ornate grotto]

I don't think you can't do the tutorial in Multiplayer

[mystic fjord]

that would make sense

prepping a server for 1.0. wanna redo tier1 incase something is changed

[ornate grotto]

It's a co-op mode, so tutorial doesn't make sense

[mystic fjord]

ig, yeah

can just do the tutorial myself, upload the safe incase something has changed

[ornate grotto]

Expect huge changes with v1.0, not worth "making a U8 server" to upgrade later.

[mystic fjord]

the server is just already hosted, im not making a safe on it

i can click 1 button to upgrade it to update 1 and then make a new save.

but i wanna redo tier1 incase something is different

[ornate grotto]

Yes, but all the networking is changing in v1.0

[mystic fjord]

handled by the host

[ornate grotto]

You hope 😉

[mystic fjord]

They said so,

i have faith it wont substancially break anything they cant fix in a bit

will the t1 tutorial change even?

[ornate grotto]

You'll find out next Tuesday 😉

As the story arc is being introduced, I would say Yes

[mystic fjord]

can always just complete it and upload the save.

[trim panther]

Hello,
I need help to setup a dedicated server.
I download via steamcmd and start using *.bat with FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
I claim the server, but I dont think other player can joind

also, it is possible to people not freind can join?

[slender drift]

Does anyone know any info or when we are getting info on the dedicated server API? would be nice to prep instead of having to develop while the game is out (i'd rather play 😠 )

[vernal vale]

is there an API for update 8? or is it something new?

[dreamy talon]

Quick question, for Satisfactory 1.0, did they say they'll finally let players switch ports off 15777 somewhere?
I want a server for me and my partner and one for me and my friends and it seems not possible unless I rent another dedi?

[dusty vortex]

No info

[dusty vortex]

No. New.

[dusty vortex]

Ports are changing yes.
In u8 It's been possible to run multiple instances of dedicated server on a single server (much like many game server hosts will do by specifying ports to use)
Tho resources for a single instance could be high (it was for previous versions, 1.0 not out yet so we don't know what it needs, only speculation)

[dreamy talon]

How do you run multiple instances when you need 15777 to connect?

[dusty vortex]

'the ports are changing'

[trim panther]

The only port use will be 7777

[dreamy talon]

Lol guess I'm moving Ark Survival Evolved and hope my game is still discoverable.

[trim panther]

https://youtu.be/v8piXNQwcUw?si=Y5lINZARjLOwZzYz
3m50

[dreamy talon]

Jesus Christ they're actually locking it again.

🤦‍♂️

Thanks a lot for the info Happy!

[rapid spindle]

You should be able to use docker to run two servers. Switch the ports the container listens on and the inside it will still map to the default ports

[dreamy talon]

That doesn't make sense, the server still needs to port forward 15777.

Or else it's not discoverable in-game

The lock is on the client, it can only connect to 15777

I guess the server to, but yes you can do docker run -p.... and port forward to let's say 15778

[rapid spindle]

Oh that's cringe

[dreamy talon]

Yeah no idea why they did that.

[ornate grotto]

Anyone will need to use your internet ip address and connect via server manager with player password to join

[trim panther]

So they need to add server like I did to claim it?

I will try

[echo remnant]

can anybody help me?

[ornate grotto]

Make sure you have the -DisablePacketRouting or -Multihome options enabled on the command line as per the Wiki in the channel description

[echo remnant]

im hosting my server on pterodactyl panel

[ornate grotto]

then you need to update the run time command line to take one of those options into account, or wait 4 days for v1.0

[dusty vortex]

in ~4 days, the ports change, the needed command line argument may change, so anything you setup now, any time you waste on troubleshooting now , needs doing again in ~4days 👍

[fallow linden]

Guys is the dedicated server performance better than 9 months ago?

[dusty vortex]

let us know when its released?

[fallow linden]

What the full game? Or start of early access?

[dusty vortex]

i assume your asking for the yet to be released full game (1.0)

[fallow linden]

No Iam asking for the current dedicated server performance situation.

[dusty vortex]

its not great, but this answer is only valid for the next ~4 days... we hope!

[fallow linden]

Okay

[dusty vortex]

Unfortunately none here are able to comment on much about how well 1.0 performs as its not yet released, same goes for dedicated server requirements, we dont know yet, what is known is that ports are changing, the console is changing, nodes placement in world is changing and recipes are changing.

What can we work out from this... well its likely any worlds that folk try to carry over from pre 1.0, will need massive rebuilding, and any server that get setup from pre1.0 will need to be setup again.

So we can only consider 1.0 to be a fresh start, from server hosting to the in game world.

until its released, none have any experience to share.

[halcyon badger]

hey all, where do blueprints get stored on a dedicated server?

[glacial ginkgo]

If you disable IPv6 then you can use the packet routing option in Unreal. That would let you reduce the port count down to one.

[deep turret]

like with the game client
the save system is same

[still wadi]

Hey, will we be able to host dedicated server right when 1.0 releases?

[deep turret]

as announced yes

will it works very well already
can't really know for sure

[paper perch]

is there a way to enable the intro cutscene for new players? Or is this already a thing but I just haven't started a new world before on a server

[deep turret]

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any "it's like this" focusing on details may be changing tomorrow

[wicked root]

Hello i am runnins a linux server with the deducated server and when i run it i get this

Illegal instruction (core dumped)

any solution?

[deep turret]

are you running it inside a virtual machine ?

[wicked root]

no

[glacial ginkgo]

CPU make/model? Distribution and update status?

[wicked root]

AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor . what do you mean by distribution and update status?

[civic cove]

Linux distro what version, REDHGAT, Fedora, Linux Mint etc.

[wicked root]

Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS

[wicked root]

any help?

[glacial ginkgo]

output of lscpu and, you are running 64bit mode, right?

[wicked root]

this?

Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit

[glacial ginkgo]

I also want the flags: section

[wicked root]

ok#

Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_ apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate vmmcall npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save

[glacial ginkgo]

I think your grandpa cpu isn't going to cut it.

[wicked root]

why?

[deep turret]

this is a high performance requirement server

even latest gen cpu somtimes struggle

[glacial ginkgo]

you have missing instruction sets and no software workarounds were made for missing instruction sets

[deep turret]

and unrealengine 5 use some cpu computing instructions to optimize things that too old cpu does not provide/support

this is a 14 years old cpu

[wicked root]

ok anyways thanks for the help

[deep turret]

and it was already low part at the time

[glacial ginkgo]

age of the cpu doesn't particulary patter, if you are okay with lag. it's the fact that it's missing the later SSE4 and AVX that I recognize right now. I think there are others as well

@wicked root would you like a recommendation for a cheap PC that will do the task of hosting satisfactory?

[edgy karma]

I’m glad my synology ds920+ has Intel Celeron J4125 with SSE4.2 with AVX

And I upgraded it to 8GB ram which is hopefully enough for max 4 players

[glacial ginkgo]

basically, if you peruse amazon.com, look into the renewed dell/hp/lenovo SFF & MicroPC formats. you should be able to find an 6th to 8th gen i7 machine that has 32GB ram in the 200-300$ range

if you are okay with the full sized cases, there are some okay deals there too

I used an i7 7700, only issue I was having was late game after a lot of large factories were made, the autosave was taking longer than 30s. this was causing disconnects with every autosave.

[civic cove]

HHmmm ok makes me wonder about my i7 6700k.

[glacial ginkgo]

I then moved it to a ryzen 5900x. it maybe make the save take 15% less time. and about 2 days later we built enough that it went back up to 30 seconds.

[civic cove]

Taking you advice and lookiung for a cheap hopefuly rank mounted option.

[glacial ginkgo]

the map save function on satisfactory for u8 is not performant. it basically locks all the threads till the 1 save thread finishes.

for some reason, this also includes the threads that handle network connectivity

this game does things that unreal engine was kinda not ment to do

[glacial ginkgo]

Rack shelf?

[civic cove]

yeah lol

hhmmmm could get
2 x Intel Xeon E5-4650 V3 12-Core 2.10GHz (2.80GHz Boost, 105W)
64gb 2133 ram,
1tb HD
ethernet 1gb
All in a 2u rack for just over £400.

[glacial ginkgo]

that lower boost speed is going to hurt when autosave comes around and you have to wait for that 1 thread to finish

@civic cove since you said £, I'm assuming a UK location. www.amazon.com/dp/B09XK94491/ £223 i7 8700

[civic cove]

I was just looking at something silmiar

thank you

[glacial ginkgo]

and the desktops will likely have a lower power usage than the racked ones

if you are feeling really cheeky, you could try your luck at aliexpress for some questionably fun things

[civic cove]

haha yeah I'm not that lucky tho I plan on buying a lot of my 3d printer mods from there.

Just looking at this up to 4ghz.

TRIGKEY 6 Core 12 Thread Mini Computer Desktop PC Ryzen 5 5560U（Up to 4.0GHz） 16G DDR4 3200MHz+500G NVME 2350MB/S SSD 15W TPD Micro PC | 6Core 1600MHz HD graphics | WIFI-6 | BT 5.2 | HDMI +DP| Type-C

£300

But I do intend on hooking up my 3d printers and workshop stuff to this unit as well.

[deep turret]

which depends mainly of age as features are added throughout time

[glacial ginkgo]

It is kinda more like cars. the highend cars will get all the fancy features first. some time later the base cars will get some of them too.

[deep turret]

8GB is currently not enough for end game

[deep turret]

yep but then old lower tier cars get thrown out first required feature wise

[glacial ginkgo]

my '99 camry says otherwise

[edgy karma]

Yeah could be but the thing is that that NAS does not officially support more than 8GB. By the time it will cause issues I will create another system

[glacial ginkgo]

I figured out I cannot buy any toyota newer than 2015 due to the damned things having cellular modems that link to lexusnexus and make repair by anyone other than a legit dealership impossible.

[civic cove]

Yeah that would stop me buying them as well. The cheek of it.

[glacial ginkgo]

noone has yet to explain to me how $10 of a plastic, fiberglass, copper, and gold trace key fob is worth 200$ and can only be programmed by a dealership.

[civic cove]

They can't and anything that comes out of their mouths is BS. Local guy could do it in less than 30mins and for a fraction of the price. Main dealers are the biggest rip of merhcants out there.

[glacial ginkgo]

nope. a lot of local guys cannot do it anymore. the even newer models require access to toyota's dealer site to copy and paste codes from techstream.

[ashen apex]

Are the updated dedicated servers going to be released with the 1.0 game on Tuesday?

[glacial ginkgo]

I believe so

[civic cove]

Snutt said yes and there's a video on it on YT.

[ashen apex]

sweet!

[hollow jewel]

beware of power cost with older servers! I think the UK has pretty expensive power right now?
that's a 2015 xeon, 22nm stuff, they are not known for their power efficiency. also a lot of racked servers come without fan control and rip those at 100% constantly, which is quite a power draw + noise

[civic cove]

I'm looking at a mini pc now

TRIGKEY Mini PC Ryzen 7 5800H (8C/16T, Up to 4.4GHz), 32G DDR4 500G NVMe SSD

[glacial ginkgo]

don't kinkshame bro. what if they want to drive a HMMWV with poor gas milage?

[hollow jewel]

they sip power on comparison 😛 but you do get some tradeoffs in expandability
I would try to find one with 2 m.2 nvme slots, so you can use one of them as PCIe (to break out into a fullsized slot, or into SATA ports for example)

[hollow jewel]

So your average american male?

[civic cove]

true I would want to upgrade as I go as well.

[glacial ginkgo]

I dunno. I think everyone wants to own one. they suck to drive but are fun to have.

[hollow jewel]

Have you heard of the crazy aliexpress boards with mobile CPUs soldered onto them?
you could get a 13420H with nvme slots, sata ports, etc for like 200$ lmao

[glacial ginkgo]

I would still go the renewed desktop and if I decided I wanted to upgrade to something better later, I would still have this unit to use as something else. like a plex server.

[hollow jewel]

I might be the exception, I wish I could buy a smaller more efficient car... and I already drive one of the smallest cars readily available in the states 😛

[civic cove]

I haven't but I know aliexpress do some crazy shit, I'm going to be ordering a load of 3d printer parts from there soon.

[hollow jewel]

Also a valid option: there are tons of 8th gen intel desktops available on secondhand marketplaces rn, not the worst platforms

[hollow jewel]

look up "10729", theyre wild lmao, I'm considering getting one for my homeserver

[glacial ginkgo]

the renewed from amazon I have found to be slightly less sketchy, as long as you wipe the OS and reinstall fresh. and 9thgen is starting to enter too

[hollow jewel]

renewed from amazon? never heard of that, I'll have to see what they have

[civic cove]

WTF pmsl

£103 for one with alder lake

[glacial ginkgo]

200-350$USD for a complete SFF or Micro/Mini

[hollow jewel]

the only thing holding me back is what I'd have to pay for a PSU and case

[glacial ginkgo]

the disks are USUALLY new with low usage

[hollow jewel]

so many of the thin optiplexes 😂 not seeing many full towers

storage is fairly cheap tbh, you can get a decent 1tb crucial ssd for 60$

[glacial ginkgo]

of course not. alot of these are from businesses doing their asset refreshes. their peons don't need full sized towers to abuse excel and reply all on outlook.

[hollow jewel]

yeah but I need a tower and an ATX power supply 😦

https://a.media-amazon.com/images/I/51puZnSaX1L._AC_.jpg
core i7 has a longer mouse cord

[glacial ginkgo]

10 points to Gryffindor!

It's fun when one of the desktops you ordered reeks of perfume because of it's last owner.

[hollow jewel]

Just let it marinate in the shed for a few weeks, the mice will take care of the smell

[glacial ginkgo]

It's like those Yeston GPUs with the fragrance module

[hollow jewel]

the what now

[glacial ginkgo]

did I stutter?

[hollow jewel]

moooom, china is doing weird gpu shit again

[glacial ginkgo]

They've been doing this since radeon 6000

[slow cobalt]

is there a tutorial anywhere for running a dedicated server on unraid/docker?

[ornate grotto]

Anything available may all change on Tuesday when 1.0 comes out

[dusty vortex]

They exist and a quick Google will find them.
But things are changing with 1.0 meaning any guides will become out dated and need updating to align with the changes.

Some things in a guide may remain the same, but some core parts will change, so at this moment in time they could only be taken with a pinch of salt, with the only value they may provide being getting a user familiar with some steps of the process.

[bleak epoch]

did someone know if a official docker existe for the dedicated server ?

[ornate grotto]

Nothing official other than the server code

[dusty vortex]

Official... No, don't think that's something that CSS have ever committed to offering.

As such your have to rely on building one your self or downloading a complete strangers container.

[bleak epoch]

okok thx for the answer, did u know if its possible to run to server on the same machine ? With diffrents ports of course

[ornate grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/color-purple-oprah-winfrey-gif-10884707865541444254

[dusty vortex]

From a technical perspective it has been possible, and in theory (so not confirmed) it should be possible with 1.0 too.

BUT it's not recommended due to performance reasons.
(You will essentially be running 2 instances of the game on a single machine, the game consumes a LOT of resources.. thus while it is possible it's not recommended)

[glacial ginkgo]

Possible yes, recommended no

[delicate raptor]

Hi. I didnt find it in the search. Are there infos, if the steam achievements can be done on dedicated servers?

[ornate grotto]

Achievements usually come from the client, so should be fine in SP, MP or DS

[magic owl]

Has there been any information about if Tier 0 will be available for dedicated servers in 1.0?

[ornate grotto]

I've not seen anything, but as it's co-op and there's only one hub, I wouldn't expect so

[deep turret]

didn't they say that maybe only the server claimer will have it if the save is still fresh or something ?
but anyway it's neither well defined/announced nor guaranteed

[hard lantern]

Newcomer here, the pinned messages in this channel are from 2021. 🫢

Is there any updated guidance for hosting come Tuesday, will anything change?

where tha server hoster love at ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deep turret]

yes

[wicked knot]

from 5 months ago. info was available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8piXNQwcUw

[hard lantern]

Amazing. I checked pins I didn’t see it

[wicked knot]

The people that CAN pin, dont. The people that WOULD pin, cant

[hard lantern]

Seems very human

[hushed rose]

I'm crashing a lot jeez

[wicked knot]

crashing, or getting a timeout/disconnect?

[wheat pewter]

Looking at maybe renting a server. What site has the best performing servers for this game?

[wicked knot]

any data on that will be meaningless in about 40 hrs

[wheat pewter]

Oh?

Why

[wicked knot]

#announcements

[hollow jewel]

1.0 brings a new server as well, much is changing

[pulsar cove]

Not exactly sure where to put this, so I'll just put it here. Thinking of buying a 7600x3d over 7600x. How much does satisfactory gain from 3dvcache? I know it likes high clock speeds, so would there be a net benefit, with the lower clocks of the x3d?

[tranquil palm]

I've seen a reference to massive gains with 5800X3D vs. 5600X (paired w/3080 Ti running 2K), in the realm of 70% in the late-game. I don't think the extra 2 cores would do that, so that would leave the cache bump. Just a sample set of 1 and from a stranger on Reddit, so YRMV, but would be in line with the gains seen in Factorio. -Edit note- The 5600X is just slightly 'faster' at max boost than the 5800X3D, so would be either the extra cores or the cache. -Edit note 2- I really think either option would run beautifully. Even that 5600X was over 90 FPS average.

Someone may know more in #off-topic-tech

[flat prism]

Hey my friend is getting this error I am able to join just fine

[devout crystal]

Hey everyone, my mate and I played a bunch during early access but every time we started to get into it, we'd get graphical desync issues. Such as objects like trees and pipes that have been removed but are still visible although they have no collision. Haven't played since maybe update 6 or 7. We got it every time we started a new save. Anyone know how common this is or if it has been solved / reduced with update 8 or 1.0?

[tepid geode]

I’ve found very few desync issues where I’ve started building my base (the northern forest starting place)

There’s still a few cases, although they’re pretty rare

In my experience

[wicked knot]

wont know about 1.0 until tues. They been kinda tight on all of it

[devout crystal]

Okay thanks guys, I will keep an eye on it and maybe the new dedicated servers will save us haha

[tame remnant]

are hyperloop launchers broken on servers?

[ornate grotto]

Yes

At least under U8, who knows what tomorrow brings

[tame remnant]

alright, starting fresh on 1.0 anyways, was just testing my U8 world on my server

what was it? 5pm utc time?

pretty late for me then

[wheat pebble]

Any info on how will work the "could depo" in multiplayer ?

shared storage i guess but ... ?

[ornate grotto]

Well I expect the download servers to be rammed anyway, so a forced delay wouldn't be bad 😄

[tired marsh]

Hi guy, about the dedicated server someone know if the improvement about the multi thread cpu is planned with or after the 1.0 ? I have a server with many cpu... But the proc isn't young...

[paper verge]

Mikael confirmed here it will be global :)
#satisfactory message

[dusty vortex]

No one knows, but we are all eager to find out. ~36hrs 🥳

[tranquil palm]

Kill, I run my server on an i7 4790K with 32GB RAM and a SATA SSD and I've never had problems, even in the late game.

Autosaves get slow, but that's it

But on an old, low clock xeon... who knows

[meager phoenix]

most likely this is a stupid question, but do you guys think there will just be an update or will 1.0 be fully new download?

[ornate grotto]

As with every other version, it's been an update, that's how steam and epic tend to work. Which branch thar gets updated is a different matter

[quick geyser]

Any Ideas?

[meager phoenix]

So, i've read that 8gb of ram should be enough for a dedicated server, but last time i had a playtrough i had to upgrade the ram cause the server crashed because we didnt have enough memory , what is a "safe" bet when i comes to memory ?
12? i can't have my own server so i will have to rent a server for the 1.0 playtrough therefore i am just curious what to order :)

[ornate grotto]

Currently the Wiki states 16GB, but v1.0 comes out tomorrow so everything could change

[meager phoenix]

i just wanna be ready x) im so hyped! lol

[ornate grotto]

Then you'll have to be surprised with everyone else when it drops tomorrow

[civic cove]

will defo be min 16gb

When you get further in game you'll need teh extra ram.,

[tame remnant]

they did mention in the server improvements for 1.0 changes for 'lightweight' objects such as foundations, better handling of foliage and streaming parts of a world instead of loading it all at once

i have no idea how much of that is currently on experimental vs being held for 1.0

[azure iron]

Is it currently possible to move saves between dedicated servers and local saves?

[civic cove]

Yeah

[ornate grotto]

Check out the Wiki linked in the channel description

[quick geyser]

Nobody that could possibly help with that?

[ornate grotto]

If you go back through the channel, you will find the same fix multiple times, but it becomes obsolete in less than 48h

[tired marsh]

I have xeon E5-2667 3,20ghz,i have a big factory and I have a tick rate freeze periodically, in the new game and during all beginning there is no problem, but after more than 200 or 300 hour... The system have freeze during one or two second...

I have no SSD but I have a raid controller with read / write flash cache

[deep turret]

that's just save

nothing to do with storage

saves are few MB

the most problem you could get with slow storage is heavy log output rotation

but it's somewhat been fixed (they removed some redundant heavy logging)

[grim helm]

When’s the 1.0 release

[odd crown]

Check pins in #satisfactory

[tired marsh]

i don't know .... the trains are constantly out of sync, they spend their time doing rollbacks because the server has fallen behind the client, the carpets I stop, my player do jump back very regularly, more regularly than the autosave....

[sacred dragon]

Does anyone know if we can continue to use our running dedicated server and just update it for 1.0?
Or do we need an entirely new install?

[dusty vortex]

According to the various public announcements so much is changing that any server setup pre 1.0 will need to be setup again.
(thus anyone trying to troubleshoot why there server is not working before 1.0 is mostly just burning their time)

Any worlds that were created pre1.0 will need massive rebuilding due to various resource nodes and recipes changing.

So in short, its prob best to start from a clean slate, from server setup to game world.

[tired marsh]

is solved all issue 😄

[sacred dragon]

That was my plan regardless - is there any info on how to run the new server, and can we prepare before tomorrow? 😄

[dusty vortex]

no, the wiki in the description still targets U8.

[edgy karma]

I will just restart the docker container and it will pull the latest game files. And remove 2 of the 3 ports which will not be used anymore.

[sacred dragon]

But isn't the docker image community managed?

[sacred dragon]

Dang

Ideally i'd run it on a docker container aswell

[edgy karma]

Yeah it is managed by community and if there are changes needed in the docker file I’m sure it will be updated tomorrow

I’m using the docker container from wolfx or something.. it has the most stars

wolveix/satisfactory-server

[dusty vortex]

lets hope the persons 'responsible' for making the containers and keep wiki's up to date dont get lost playing the game for the next few months and forget to publish updated material 😄

[tame solar]

if there are some important or breaking changes regarding the dedicated server documentation on the wiki, please ping the @ Wiki Manager role and we'll look into it

[dusty vortex]

we are entering a new cave, one that is yet to be explored or mapped, tomorrow the masses will descend into the cave, some will survive to the end, some will find challanges. and so by everyone sharing informaiton, the mapping will begin.

[gray kestrel]

release the server files so we can prepare for tomorow 🙂

[sacred dragon]

This was really what I was hoping for tbh 😂

[dusty vortex]

it was announced that ports are changing... so we know ther eis that... there may be other things we dont know, but hopefully studio staff do.
suggest its worth scheduling some time in to reflect the announched changes at the very least, and hopefully more infos that we might not yet know.

thanks 🙂

[tame solar]

should still note that the wiki is community-run, so you can edit the info too, I'll be happy to help if you run into problems with editing though 👍

only an account is needed to edit: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?title=Special:CreateAccount&returnto=Satisfactory+Wiki

[sacred dragon]

And it makes perfectly sense, would just have been nice with some official info on what was required to run a 1.0 server so we could prepare, and not use the time tomorrow figuring it out 😄

[dusty vortex]

folks take note, please someone update it .... ive had holiday booked (and thus im traveling away) since long before the release date was announced, so ill be taking a week break and returning to hopefully updated guides etc
or you can all wait till ive put in some hours to play the game once i return from my holiday away to work out what needs to be added to the wiki, but im sure your all happy to wait for me! 😄

[amber merlin]

Hey, I want to host a server it doesnt quiet work yet. Ingame it says "Server name pending! but on the website I rented the server its just states online. What am I doing wrong?

[thin nova]

did you contact your hoster?

[amber merlin]

no response yet

[dusty vortex]

#dedicated-servers message

[amber merlin]

The purpose of todays server was to get it running so I know what to do tomorrow

[ornate grotto]

U8 is broken out of the box, hopefully v1.0 will not be

[sacred dragon]

The problem is, that it's not guaranteed to work tomorrow with 1.0 just because it works today with U8

[thin nova]

IF your Host upgrades the server... 😄 I would not bet, that they will do this after 17:00 on the same day.

[dusty vortex]

There are skills that can indeed be learned ahead of time, things like navigating command lines, firewall management, router port forwarding, skills that can apply to any game and is worth learning.
but anything specific to satisfactory, well take it as a pinch of salt until anyone is able to confirm what needs to be done.

any troubleshooting you do today, may be relevant, it also might be completely irrelevant.
is the cat in the box dead or alive?

at least come tomorrow, with a lot of these questions asked, the answer should at least change from... we dont know, to, we are currently finding out 🥳

[earnest sphinx]

thats what makes renting a regular server and installing stuff like satisfactory yourself so good. if im already paying someone i'd rather take full control than let them manage the software

[amber merlin]

Alright, thanks for all the answers. Tomorrow will be a good day

[sacred dragon]

Has anyone heard about ARM support for the dedicated server in 1.0?

[ornate grotto]

I don't think it will be

[sacred dragon]

Yeah I kinda suspect it wont as well, would just be amazing combined with the free Oracle cloud hosting

[ornate grotto]

I don't think the needed instruction sets are enabled in the processor. You could try and virtualise it, but I suspect performance would be naff

[dusty vortex]

There is no support, nor will there be.

That said, i recall reading in here once before that someone (you would need to search the chat history) suggested they got it working on an ARM based system... by using layers of virtualization and emulation (both layers bring massive overhead so would likely tank performance as the world hours clock up), i dont recall what magic spells they used to make such an abomination 'work'.

[sacred dragon]

Hmm I almost got it working on ARM without emulation

Only slight problem was that it crashed everytime anyone placed a conveyor belt 😂

[dusty vortex]

they could also have just been BS'ing (there was no evidence to say it actually worked or even how well it worked if it really did)

[sacred dragon]

It is possible I believe, it started and I could join on mine

Was a great deal of hassle though

[dusty vortex]

sounds fun, and if anything breaks, then such individuals will be on their own trying to resolve any troubleshooting as its out of the norm / experience of everyone else.
you beautiful pioneers you!

[karmic merlin]

would a clean install be best tomorrow to maximize performance, or doesnt matter?

[dusty vortex]

a clean install would be best tomorrow, not due to performance reasons, but because so much is changing between versions

[sacred dragon]

Clean install is my plan as well - unfortunately I can't do it before wednesday, so hopefully we have a working docker image 😄

[celest mural]

Having the same problem as @amber merlin But have forward the ports, worked rules in my router and in my firewall. Still having the same issue. Though I have the issue that the server is stated before the changed to listening from ipv4 to ipv6

[granite lintel]

was bout to ask, Ive been wondering if dedicated servers are going to be able to be run tomorrow.

understandably all the dev videos have been based around the changes to the game it self, and i know dedicated servers are getting full support, but....i have many many friends who are hyped as hell for 1.0, and im the dude the with the beast of a machine that can host

[rapid spindle]

Have you tried -multihome=0.0.0.0 in the launch script/parameters?

[jolly berry]

The intent is to have dedicated servers available for the release tomorrow as well. If you haven't seen, check out the latest video on dedicated servers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8piXNQwcUw

[granite lintel]

oh solid, i'll watch that now. thankee

ive been playing the game since...u4? and just...never thought to wander in here

[amber merlin]

customer support gave me a new port number now it works just fin

[celest mural]

Jupp, tried it, not reposing command and when I start it, with a script "start.bat" is just abandon.

[celest mural]

Super, waiting for updating then

[limber sedge]

Hello, yesterday i cleared my server pc and changed from windows to Ubuntu server now after settin up everything in the firewall opening the ports and so on everytime i want to connect to my server i get this error and i don't know what to do anymore because this is also my first server with linux. If anyone could help me i would be very happy.

[jolly berry]

Hard to know for sure. You might need the same multihome fix that someone suggested above. Have you checked the Wiki article on dedicated servers? There is some troubleshooting there: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[solar parrot]

looks like the usual one, so editing some ini files from server and clients should do the trick

hope that they will fix those ini defaults in 1.0

[limber sedge]

just checked everything again in the troubleshooting guide but there is shown everything works fine. i also tried the multihome fix before but i couldnt really find where i have to put it because if i just add it in the start.sh it doesnt work

[jolly berry]

What is the ss troubleshooting command showing for your server?

[rapid spindle]

It does go in the start .sh

Post your start file and logs when you try to connect

[limber sedge]

i just started the server with "./start.sh -multihome=0.0.0.0" and now it works i just dont know why it wont work in the start.sh itself

[twilit fox]

Welcome to Linux

[rapid spindle]

Might be a syntax error, or something weird. Glad you got it working

[limber sedge]

yes thanks for the help and now only waiting for tomorrow

[twilit fox]

So for startup scripts it does work

But like mine is screen -s satisfactory -dm /home/user/folder/factoryserver.sh -launch args

But if you're going to use it for prime time, then you really need to set it up as a service with systemctl

Or systemd

[limber sedge]

i dont start it through a script only used the default factoryserver.sh but renamed it

yesterday was my first contact with linux so i just have to learn more about it

[jolly berry]

There's an article for that, too: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Running_as_a_Service

[twilit fox]

Systemd will start the server on boot, as the desired user, restart it if it dies.. etc

[limber sedge]

the automatic restart is nice but the automatic start is not neccessary because my server pc runs all the time

[twilit fox]

If it crashes, etc.. but once you learn your way around the command line you can learn about Systemctl/Systemd

[rich palm]

Is it btw known if rubberbanding etc. will be fixed with 1.0?

In my last playthrough beginning of the year the server refresh rate quickly went down after tier 4. Meanwhile the dedicated server had very powerful hardware

[dusty vortex]

#dedicated-servers message

[dusty vortex]

its not known. we only hope.

[topaz dew]

do we know when dedicated server for 1.0 will be available? maybe a little bit earlier than the actual game?

[dusty vortex]

@limber sedge - note that ports will change tomorrow (so need to re do firewalls and port forwarding)
the changes may negate some extra command line options like multihome.

[dusty vortex]

its assumed but not confirmed, that it would be same time as game launch.

[topaz dew]

sad noises

[dusty vortex]

im sure plenty of folks will be hammering steamCMD update command all day tomorrow to find out 🙂

[topaz dew]

probably 😄

dont know why they dont communicate stuff like that clear...

[jolly berry]

Snutt said they will be releasing all together, but Coffee Stain can't control exactly when SteamCMD is going to see the update and be able to download it.

[topaz dew]

even the release time isnt clearly written but must be found thorugh chat command..

[jolly berry]

Further, we have no clue on when dedicated server providers for Satisfactory will update their systems if you are buying a ready-to-go server.

There's no reason to expect big delays if you are running your own server though.

[grave shell]

I have a dedicated mini pc running the game as a server now... this same system acts as a server for other things. Tempted to run both in two different VMs to force resource allocation so neither service interfers with the other. Not sure I would even benefit from it however.

[tawny garden]

anyone have a recommendations on multiplayer server hosting services?

[limber sedge]

tried to get this working for me but everytime i want to execute it i get cannot execute: file not found

[jolly berry]

Here's some additional information on dedicated servers for 1.0 👉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofpwx_FvDoY

[tawny garden]

Also I assume the dimensional depot will work in MP?

[dusty vortex]

#dedicated-servers message

[little bramble]

Hoping that somebody can answer this too. I played since U5 and never could play with friends due to my PC not liking multiplayer with this game despite trying the fixes available. I'm really hoping that off the shelf server providers are stable from 1.0 release because I am hyped to play with friends!

[ornate grotto]

and @little bramble, it mainly depends on where you are in the world. Nitrado has taken a bad rap recently and Indifferent Broccoli has had reasonable response, but as U8 was completely FUBAR, both could be okay with v1.0. Your guess is as good as everyone elses until it actually comes out

[tawny garden]

We used Indifferent Brocoli in the most recent playthrough. It wasn't bad! I think the issues we had on the server were around the game itself, not the provider. Stuff like hypertubes and vehicles being pretty much unusable. Hopefully that gets fixed with 1.0. If other people don't have suggestions, we'll probably do Brocoli again

[ornate grotto]

At least Indifferent Broccoli has a Free Trial option 🙂

[summer nebula]

So I seem to have a good thing going now with my dedicated server running in aws fargate, does anyone have any solutions for monitoring or detecting if people are connected to the server? I'd like to automatically turn it off if no one is connected in X number of minutes.

[twilit fox]

Then youu mistyped your path

[ornate grotto]

Within U8 there is an option to shut down the game when there is no one connected, no way to control the underlying VM unless you create something

[dusty vortex]

currently only by reading log files, but!! 1.0 comes with a brand new API... which should provide such details... once someone makes a tool to talk to the api

[summer nebula]

oh right! I forgot about that. Thats promising

[tawny garden]

wait really?? didn't know this

[little bramble]

@tawny garden @ornate grotto I have had some bad experiences with Nitrado for other games in the last year, mainly having to go through support when purchasing a new server as they would not fire up. I'll give IB a try by the looks of it - not heard of them previously but free trial is always good if there's a possibility it could still be unstable!

[summer nebula]

thats would work for me though, since I am running it in a container if the process stops, the container stops and I won't get charged

[dusty vortex]

just to clarify... shutdown, or simply pause the world ? (my expereince was the world could be paused, but maybe i missed an interesting config option, tho not sure id want to actually shutdown the server if 0 players as then how would they reconnect... so imma assume you meant the world pauses when 0 players) 🙂

[ornate grotto]

Yeah you are right it pauses the world, but goes to minimum usage, which he may be able to use to shut down the container. Problem is, he'd need to manually start it again

[twilit fox]

Yeah if it's not running it can't accept connections..

[ornate grotto]

Even with the API, you'd need to manually fire it back up again

There'd be no server API to connect to 😉

[summer nebula]

I have a method that will start it up when someone tries to connect. I have it working with UDP Bedrock Minecraft, so I should be able to make it work with Satisfactory too. When someone tries to connect and the server isnt running, it will start it up and announce on discord when it is running. Not ideal, but it will just be friends and family using it, so I can explain the limitations

[dusty vortex]

yup... tho if someone wanted to extend some turn on trigger via a passworded web portal or a discord bot, then it would be possible... lots of knitting together API's but feasiable.

[twilit fox]

For the best experience you should run it on your own hardware.. even if your hardware is running it in a container or a vm you'll have a much better experience than sharing a cpu with possibly hundreds of other servers

[ornate grotto]

That would work until someone does a wide band port scan and every game server fires up every 15 mins 😄

[twilit fox]

Yeah, shutting the server down isn't really a viable option.

[summer nebula]

its actually dns based, so they would have to know the address. But even if they did, it would turn off after X minutes anyway. So far it hasn't been a problem with my minecraft servers

[ornate grotto]

DNS is just name to IP address "phone book", you can access the IP address without knowing the DNS name

[dusty vortex]

some firewalls or proxy can filter connections based on DNS alone and not IP... i do so for hosting multiple websites from a single IP but the DNS is what is routed or not, plain IP goes to black hole.

[ornate grotto]

I thought that only worked for TCP connections, not UDP?

[summer nebula]

Yep I know, but if it isn't running at all, theres nothing to scan. The ip doesn't get assigned until the server is up and then it updates it's own dns record. It watches the dns queries and starts it up when someone tries to resolve the address.

[dusty vortex]

sounds like an interesting solution to a unique problem, perhaps the new API will help achieve that goal after the required stiching of API's together is done 🙂

[dusty vortex]

you might be right, while i got an example of a TCP service, ive not actually used it or needed to do so for UDP yet 👍

[ornate grotto]

Yeah Host Headers are a TCP HTTP thing, but you can still access the server via it's IP address

[summer nebula]

The startup stuff is a solved problem, its the shutdown that I want to fix. The existing minecraft shutdown stuff is very minecraft specific and talks to the udp ports to see if people are connected. I'll wait till next week and see how the api works out.

[dusty vortex]

it sounds feasible (tho lots to consider) best of luck

[ornate grotto]

And let us know how you get on, always interested in automation 🙂

[clever idol]

Does anyone know if Dedicated Servers will be updated in the 1.0 release? or still considered experimental?

[dusty vortex]

updated to 1.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofpwx_FvDoY

[jolly berry]

I believe all features of the game will be in full release and no longer early access.

[gray kestrel]

IMPROVED DEDICATED SERVERS
Dedicated Servers are being spruced up proper for 1.0 and will no longer be considered experimental. Moving forward, they’ll be receiving a lot more frequent support in terms of bug-fixing and polishing, and we’ve also addressed many bugs that have been prevalent in Dedicated Servers for a while.

First off, by having their distribution size decreased, Dedicated Servers will be a lot faster to download and install. The servers now only use a single port, for both UDP and TCP, namely port 7777, and they also bind properly to IPv4 and IPv6 simultaneously.

The server exe-file can now be run as both a window and console application. Some benefits of the console application include improved logging and the ability to run scripts.

Dedicated Servers now also support TLS, where you can create certificates manually or have it automated when booting up the server. When attempting to connect to any given server, you’ll then be prompted to insert the certificate to ensure the server is legitimate.

When booting up a Dedicated Server, you’ll now be introduced to the Unreal console which more clearly displays important information about your server, such as server status or uptime. The main benefit of this console, however, is its built-in terminal which allows you to type in valid server commands in real time. Logging is also smooth in the Unreal console, with its own input box dedicated to logging and filtering.

In 1.0, you will be able to set up Advanced Game Settings for Dedicated Servers in the actual game’s own main menu. On top of the usual settings, you also have new options for auto-save intervals, opting in to send game data to us or deciding your network quality, among other things. If you are the server admin, you may now also download the server save data directly from this menu. Furthermore, the server notifies all clients that it is about to save, letting users know that it may undergo heavy workloads etc.

Finally, we’ve implemented support for an HTTP API which can handle HTTP request methods between the server and the client. This means it will be possible to develop external applications that can talk directly to the server and send HTTP requests to them directly. Documentations for this API will be released in the future, but we cannot wait to see how this makes your use of Dedicated Servers extend even further beyond what they currently are!

[dusty vortex]

TLDR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8piXNQwcUw

[dusty vortex]

So then, what issues do peeps think we will most likely be raised tomorrow?
(Seeing as we like to play games of speculation) 😂

I'll stab a guess at 'how do I increase max players' will make a strong comeback 😆
(The answer is thankfully in the wiki)

[ornate grotto]

Why can't I connect to my server

[rapid spindle]

A new networking error that requires a parameter in an obscure location

[dusty vortex]

A daily struggle hehe

[grave shell]

Actual issues or, user issues? lol

[ornate grotto]

Layer 8 Errors 😉

[dusty vortex]

Either, I'm just posing an entertaining question 😄

[grave shell]

Id guess people forget to patch the server

[dusty vortex]

But given some good points it might make for a good list of trouble shooting/solutions on speed dial 😆

[dusty vortex]

Entirely possible, stranger things have happened!

[grave shell]

Would be nice if the documentation for the server stuff was public today, so I can reconfigure my computer if need be

That last note made it seem like a port number was changing

[dusty vortex]

It is

[grave shell]

That's another issue, people wont read the patch notes

[dusty vortex]

Agree some updated docs would be handy, and let many of us prepare or even be able to helpfully answer some common questions. 😕

[dusty vortex]

Or the announcements 👍

[grave shell]

Rather spend today setting up the server so tomorrow I can play

[dusty vortex]

Likely be No1 case,' I updated but can't connect, I followed the wiki to the letter yesterday and opened the 3 ports, any ideas? '

[ornate grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-20411229

[shut temple]

Has there been any word on if tier zero will be available in multiplayer?

[ornate grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/read-the-instructions-mad-throw-hit-gif-17265234

[dusty vortex]

I've not seen any official communication on that matter, the expectation (taken from all previous versions) is.. drumroll... No.

[dusty vortex]

A planned holiday away which coincides with release turns out to be a gift as much as it is a curse 😂

[jolly berry]

Well it's not like it's a totally different port right? They are just consolidating all communication to 7777 instead of the 3 different ports it was using before (of which 7777 was one of them).

[ornate grotto]

Technically it's 2 ports 7777 TCP and 7777 UDP

[jolly berry]

Also now needs TCP and UDP

[ruby phoenix]

hi ! is there any ways to stress test a server ? maybe other than loading a massive save ?

[dusty vortex]

That's the understanding yes. Still it changes and folks will get caught out.

[jolly berry]

Have many different players on the server at the same time all in different locations.

[ornate grotto]

Play it passed Tier 5 😉

[dusty vortex]

Install every mod you can find,
Get as many peeps to join as possible, there a few ways to stress it, just no one click test.

[ornate grotto]

Use a Hypertube cannon, that will break it every time 😄

[dusty vortex]

While funny it's perhaps a valid suggestion too. I mean it gives the opportunity to see how well the world loads as you hurtle your skull through your feet

[quasi kettle]

I just want them to finally fix the "things built during a game save are broken" thing

Hypertubes cause your player to have an epileptic seizure at the entrance for as long as you'd be riding it would also be a good one to fix for a "released" game.

[dusty vortex]

Fixing of the 'Dragging ones dislocated skull along the outside ribbing of the tubes' would be a huge improvement!
My gosh my ears!

[quasi kettle]

I think it's the same bug, just it gets worse as the server load goes up

[dusty vortex]

Oh definitely, goes from mostly working early game to, will I get a 2nd use of a tube before my body unexpectedly exits mid tube causing disconnect.

[twilit fox]

Right... have the whole thing configured so we could just run a script tomorrow..

[polar swallow]

Until I rejoined this discord 5 minutes ago I thought I was all set up and ready to go for tomorrow. Stress tested it with a Tier 6 world, figured I'd be able to play right when the game released. Now I'm reading things about new port numbers!! lol.

I'm glad I popped in to double check.

[grave shell]

Proof of concepted this weekend with a buddy of mine on the other side of the state. Beyond 1.0 patch and that port, I should be ready to go

[paper oriole]

I am also getting a new server ready for tomorrow. I am debating on whether to go the manual config route or let LinuxGSM handle it. Setup my backups, etc. Suggestions?

[twilit fox]

So you've got to test it?

[grave shell]

0.8

[twilit fox]

Oh I thought you were one of the lucky ones lol

[iron pelican]

Does anyone know what a good website for a dedicated server rental for USA west coast area would be? What’s a trustable quality service you might recommend pls?

[wicked knot]

yelp?

basically everything changes about the servers in less than a day

[iron pelican]

I meant like which online website for server hosting is good? Like shockbyte, g portal… etc…

Is there a community recommended brand?

[dusty vortex]

ive heard good things for
+indifferent broccoli
+low.ms
+qonzer

ive heard (and also experienced) bad things about
-nitrado
-gtx
-gportal

i dont have a specific recommendation, just some to potentially consider looking at.

[iron pelican]

Perfect thanks

[outer apex]

Since I don't see another dedicated servers channel. Can anyone recommend me a place where I can rent a server for satisfactory? Since 1.0 is basically releasing tomorrow and I kinda want to play it with friends. We plan to play with roughly 5 people.
In case it matters, I'm located in Germany/EU

[ornate grotto]

Delphium literally posted a bunch of hosts two posts back 🤦

[twilit fox]

Lol..

[outer apex]

Yea but isn't that USA west coast?

[twilit fox]

Go to the German computer store and build your own host.

[ornate grotto]

I think you'll find they are global

[outer apex]

To expensive for a month or 2 that I want to play

[twilit fox]

Have your 4 other friends help foot the bill.

[sage ore]

i've used gportal for almost all my dedicated server needs for a couple of years. I personally never had any issue with them

[fossil kernel]

I've used GTXgaming but there were some issues

[forest grove]

no recom but as he said do not go for nitrado or gportal. Or any other host not talking about their used cpu's. This game server needs single core power (except something changed heavily and I doubt it). Especially if there is more than 1 player and two buildings.

[ornate grotto]

U8 was a particularly bad server build, so even the best servers struggled.

[outer apex]

Yea I know of nitrado but my friend got a really really bad experience with them, so I tried to figure out something else

[quaint apex]

You got some basic technical knowledge? I guess it will take some time for the hosters to adjust their stuff to work for 1.0

[outer apex]

Yea

I would just need to know how to install/update satisfactory on either ubuntu or windows server

I mean I could do it per console ssh

[quaint apex]

I guess the wiki will be shortly updated after the release

Really depends on how much you're willing to spend on the server. Especially 5 people is kinda heavy.

[naive summit]

Dedicated servers will get the update around the same time, yeah?

[hard lantern]

If it’s done like every other game, the depot for dedicated servers will just get updated with the main game does

[naive summit]

cool. Would I even need to find the steam tool and update it manually or would that just auto update like a game

[ornate grotto]

Depends how you have it installed. If you have it through Steam or Epic then it should auto update. If you installed via SteamCMD, you'll need to update it manually

[rapid spindle]

It might update out of sync they said. They update the files at the same time but steam might not distribute them at the same time.

steamcmd is most reliable way to get the server update immediately

[naive summit]

Hopefully it's not too much of a lag

[hard lantern]

Hey guys, I’m wondering for someone who has a bigger server and runs games with a couple hundred people off of them, where do you say the limits would be in terms of player numbers on a single server? I pretty much have an unlimited amount of CPU and RAM.

I think last time I checked, it was about 16?

[ornate grotto]

Max officially supported player count is 4, but you won't get more than about 8 on an U8 server due to poor server coding. 1.0 server is anyone's guess until it's released tomorrow

[hard lantern]

OK, thanks

[naive summit]

I'm trying to picture a 100 people all driving tractors around a server and I can't think of a better way to blow up a computer

[hard lantern]

The sever I’m running has a threadripper and 256gb of ram

We could try.

[naive summit]

well if theres something that could handle it, that probably could. That's some crazy power

[hard lantern]

I’m sure the hardware is fine. I just wasn’t sure if the Game client kinda had any type of limitations as far as sharing information back-and-forth between players you know sometimes they’re software issue with that kind of scale.

Not that I’m trying to run 100 person server 😂

[naive summit]

Yeah there was a video released about some optimization coming to dedicated servers, I'm hoping the overall experience is a lot smoother starting tomorrow

[ornate grotto]

On U8 the server basically maxes out a single core and barely touches others, a huge multi-core CPU is of no benefit. A higher spec single core worked better than lower spec multi core

[atomic crag]

More info on the day 1 experience for dedicated servers from a couple days ago:

https://youtu.be/Ofpwx_FvDoY?si=795yoD1TQIS-RZ-h

[faint wagon]

anyone know if the steamcmd install command will be different with 1.0? current shows the -beta arg for both public and experimental branches

[ornate grotto]

the -beta command is optional to define which branch you are installing from

[faint wagon]

I guess I can ask it a different way. Will I need to remove -beta for my dedicated server once 1.0 releases and the game is no longer in beta

[ornate grotto]

the -beta command has nothing to do with the game being in beta. If you have it on you get the experimental branch, if you don't use it you get the main branch (was EA, should become 1.0). So if you want to play the non-experimental branch, remove -beta public from the command

[faint wagon]

hmmm, but the documentation specifically has "-beta public" as the Early Access command and "-beta experimental" for experimental. So it wouldn't make sense that -beta is only for experimental or it wouldn't be an arg for EA

[ornate grotto]

Maybe I misread it, but I've NEVER used the -beta option on my server installs so that should tell you if you need it or not 😉

[faint wagon]

Whatever it is, i just want to run the non experimental branch of 1.0 and didn't wanna build the server with -beta if that was going to be reserved for experimental after the 1.0 release. IIRC, there were some stipulations that made it to where you couldn't go from experimental to EA so i didn't wanna get stuck on experimental because my install cmd was wrong

[fierce night]

Doesn't matter so might as well remove 🙂

[faint wagon]

That's what i'm thinking, remove -beta and just do public and 🤞

[wicked knot]

Unless there is an experimental version, the build numbers will be the same. That was the hangup on EXP moving to EA. You couldnt load a save from a higher build number. In it's current state, both version have the same build number.

If they do continue working on the game (I hope they do) the -beta tag will let you get the new stuff as released, vs after debugging

[ornate grotto]

public is part of the -beta command, remove -beta public from the command line

[faint wagon]

Ah TY

[ornate grotto]

This is my command line for reference
"C:\apps\SteamCMD\steamcmd.exe" +force_install_dir "C:\SteamGames\SatisfactoryServer" +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

[faint wagon]

Mine will be steamcmd +force_install_dir ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

[tidal dragon]

So, in order to get dediserver for tomorrow's 1.0 update is to launch it in steamcmd?

[sinful sequoia]

maybe you know the approximate release time of 1.0?

[ornate grotto]

I think they said 17:00 CEST

[karmic mantle]

Hello everyone, I'm looking for some documentations to launch a dedicated server on a truenas scale server, especially after truecharts is deprecated.

[ornate grotto]

I doubt it will have the power to run the server. It needs a highpowered CPU and 16GB RAM

[karmic mantle]

So it's still possible ?

[ornate grotto]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Requirements
**Processor ** - Recent (comparable to the i5-3570 [Intel] or Ryzen 5 3600 [AMD] or better) x86/64 (AMD/Intel) processor. No 32 bit or ARM support. The server favours higher single-core performance over multiple cores.
Memory - 12GB minimum, 16GB RAM is recommended for larger saves or to host more than 4 players.
Operating System - Any currently supported version of Windows or major Linux distribution. Out-of-support OSs such as Windows 7 are explicitly not supported.

[karmic mantle]

RAM is OK, CPU is a bit under requirement and we are 2 players at the moment.

[ornate grotto]

I suspect that a NAS won't have the grunt, but 🤷

Will it run, mebbe. Will it be playable, possibly not

[gusty knoll]

will the app id for the server on steam stay the same for 1.0 release?

[atomic crag]

What really sucks is when it’s playable up until like Tiers 5/6, and then you start to get the slingshotting and rubber banding.

[ornate grotto]

I expect so

[quasi kettle]

I literally am just still using the truechart one. It should still work. That said the docker container is super simple to just pull it out when you convert to the next version off kube

[karmic mantle]

Any documentation that you can recommend to configure that ?

[quasi kettle]

There's a guy that mirrored the truechart depot until we convert.

[quasi kettle]

I mean, there's very little to configure. It's truecharts, the dev additude is basically if you don't like it gfy

[wicked edge]

Is there a way to shutdown the satisfactory server without force closing it with a bat file?

[quasi kettle]

Yes

[wicked edge]

Elaborate please lol

[quasi kettle]

Yes there is a way

[wicked edge]

👍

My current one launches steam, checks for updates, then starts the server and checks periodically to see if its still up, if not it restarts the process, but I need something to shut it down gracefully without just force closing the application

[quasi kettle]

What os?

[wicked edge]

Windows 10

[quasi kettle]

Go Google how to run a service on that os.

[wicked edge]

🫠

Thanks

Most helpful indvidual here. Without a doubt

[quasi kettle]

Dude I'm not your read the wiki for you / Google for you surrogate. Put some basic effort in. Both answer your question directly

[spare tartan]

If you are already connected and have access to the console just type out quit

[wicked edge]

I thought you could only close the server with CTRL+C (x2)?

[quasi kettle]

I tried to link an answer, a bot ate it, so /shrug

[wicked edge]

Then just dont type instead of being a mouthpiece for the most useless dog shit

[spare tartan]

For me the quit command worked

But the rest didnt. So quit was pretty much the only thing in the console that worked

[wicked edge]

hm

[quasi kettle]

If you can't figure out how to directly Google what I told you to Google man that's a you problem

[wicked edge]

not sure why youre still speaking but ok

[coral rose]

quit, stop and exit in the DS console will all quit out. If you have it setup to auto-restart the server, it will auto restart.

[faint wagon]

I must've had too much time when i sent my dedi up a few years ago. i set up 2 VMs in vmware, one is a backup server that has a cron job to auth with ssh keys to the primary server, runs a backup script to copy the game save directories over to a backup directory AND a running directory, then restarts the service on the secondary server so it's running the latest. then sends an email and a discord notification with the list of actions completed from the backup script. Glad i wrote documentation for myself.

[coral rose]

Definitely. Why not just use docker at that point?

[faint wagon]

i don't think we had a good docker image back then, or maybe i was less familiar and wanted a dockercompose script. I saw there's good docker image now, but doesn't look officially managed by Satisfactory. Might play with using that in the future to simply and save resources

[coral rose]

Fair enough. I'm going to roll my own Dockerfile tomorrow when the details of the DS changes are known

[faint wagon]

I think i hosted a valheim server for some friends and got burned when the save directory had the wrong permissions and the whole server was running in memory, thus the world was gone when the server rebooted. so now i make sure backups work and test them by running them on a second server 😂

how simple is that to do? I'm pretty familiar with docker, but never made my own containers 🤔 feel free to dm me some documentation if you have it. If not, no worries

[coral rose]

ouch, yeah. I've been there with other services when I started on docker. I'm so accustomed to just mounting the directory to be used in the image now rather than allowing it to fire up a temporary fs.

[rocky raptor]

Hello hello. I am launching the server manually from the command line like so:

/Steam/steamapps/common/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh' -log -multihome=0.0.0.0

(Debian)

The logs do some junk then they hang out idling like this:

[2024.09.09-22.20.23:261][ 19]LogEOSSDK: LogEOSAnalytics: Start Session (User: ...)
[2024.09.09-22.20.23:395][ 23]LogEOSSDK: LogEOS: SDK Config Product Update Request Successful, Time: 2.685575
[2024.09.09-22.20.23:396][ 23]LogEOSSDK: LogEOS: SDK Config Data - Watermark: 1072282993
[2024.09.09-22.20.23:396][ 23]LogEOSSDK: LogEOS: ScheduleNextSDKConfigDataUpdate - Time: 2.685575, Update Interval: 306.993683

I try to connect from a Windows machine on the same network both by the public IP and the local IP, but I just get the "This server appears to be offline" message rather than letting me authenticate it. What might I be missing?

[coral rose]

it varies depending on the service you're setting up. the unofficial dockerimage from wolveix has a github repo with all of the details.

[faint wagon]

@coral rose 'presh, i'll take a look 👍

[coral rose]

have you opened the required ports for the server?

[rocky raptor]

Maybe? I am running Unifi and I have all three ports forwarded the same way I've done other games, like Valheim. Do I need to do something on the actual server?

[coral rose]

I don't believe the url is whitelisted here so I sent the repo to your DM

[coral rose]

if you're running a software firewall on debian, yes

[rocky raptor]

These show up when I do a netstat:

udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:15777           0.0.0.0:*                          
udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:7777            0.0.0.0:*  

They are not listed under the "LISTEN" section though

[coral rose]

UDP will never show up as 'LISTEN'

[rocky raptor]

Ah, well then no. Because those ports don't show up under other sections.

[coral rose]

afaik you also need port 15000 at this point

that's all changing tomorrow with 1.0 though

[rocky raptor]

That's there too, it just wasn't nearby and thus was inconvenient to copy and paste. But, they only show up under udp and not tcp

[coral rose]

That is correct. It exclusively uses UDP

[rapid spindle]

Have you tried restarting your client

It stops responding after some time, and then you have to restart the client

[rocky raptor]

Yes, plenty.

[rocky raptor]

Okay so if it shows up under udp when I do a netstat, then they are indeed open ports?

[rocky raptor]

I'm actually trying to stress test my server to see if it can even handle Satisfactory before 1.0 comes out. Should I not bother and just wait until the new server is out tomorrow?

[copper lily]

i would not bother.

[coral rose]

I don't believe netstat takes software firewalls into account. an application can listen on a port and still be filtered by a local firewall

[coral rose]

I'd wait. we still don't know what changes there are

[jolly berry]

I would not bother with any dedicated server activities until the 1.0 version is available.

So much has changed that any testing would be mostly pointless.

[rocky raptor]

I at least wanted to see if it stuttered horribly and then catches fire with two players, or if it seems smooth.

[coral rose]

does it meet the requirements listed at https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers (subject to change)

[rocky raptor]

Yes, but that doesn't mean that performance is indistinguishable from a better machine

[cinder temple]

i think i'm having the same connection issue with a local server, times out for no apparent reason

i'll just try the 1.0 version, my friends will have to wait

maybe i need a restart to make ufw work properly?

[coral rose]

you could nmap (or similar program) from another machine on your network to test the ports

[jolly berry]

It would not be worth making any judgments based on Update 8 performance.

[frigid yew]

Has it been confirmed if dedicated server files for 1.0 will be available day one?

[jolly berry]

Yes

Coffee Stain releases the dedicated server stuff at the same time. Sometimes the platform won't show the server updates immediately, but I don't see any reason to anticipate large delays.

[grave shell]

Nothing wrong with a proof of concept

[jolly berry]

If you're setting it up to see how it's done if you've never done it before, sure. But the context above was about performance.

[thin nova]

Update time of your hoster may vary.

[jolly berry]

Note there's a port change coming as well.

[cinder temple]

7777 on tcp and udp, right?

[jolly berry]

Bingo

[dense bobcat]

heavy server breathing

[cinder temple]

will the method for running the server change?

specifically, .../steamapps/common/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh or its parameters?

[deep turret]

probably

-DisablePacketRouting will most surely disapear for good

[wheat pewter]

Is it possible to set up a dedicated server that only runs when someone is connected to it? I'm not sure I want the factories pumping out resources 24/7 when nobody is online.... seems like that make the game a little too easy 😂

[deep turret]

it's a check box in the settings
what you are asking for is on by default

[wheat pewter]

Oh nice! thanks

[deep turret]

specifically "game pauses when last player disconnects"

[supple crow]

Im trying to get this server set up, but my friends cant join, but I can join. is there any sure way to know why they cant join?

[jolly berry]

And you're on a different computer from the server?

[supple crow]

No

Do I need to be?

[jolly berry]

No, it just indicates where the problem could be.

If you and the server are the same computer, then that increases what needs to be checked.

[supple crow]

Oh

[jolly berry]

This could be your machine's firewall.

Could be port forwarding on a router.

Could be the server is only binding to the loopback address.

[supple crow]

have the port 15777 going though the firewall and it is portwarding

[supple crow]

How would I check this or fix this?

[jolly berry]

You need 15777, 15000, and 7777 forwarded

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Port_forwarding_and_firewall_settings

[supple crow]

do I need all of them through the fire wall too?

[jolly berry]

Yes

[supple crow]

through inbound and outbound?

[dense bobcat]

its like asking if you should upgrade your belt tier, sheesh

[jolly berry]

Outbound is probably allowed by default, but yes.

[supple crow]

Ok both TCP and UDP?

[deep turret]

only udp

[jolly berry]

Only UDP is required until tomorrow.

[deep turret]

but all that will change in 15h

[supple crow]

Ok

[deep turret]

tbh wait in 17h to setup server as it is

[supple crow]

I did all the firewall and portforwarding and now the server wont start

it opens does somthing then closes its self

[cinder temple]

yeah, you'll only need 7777 in 1.0

[jolly berry]

To the log file!

[cinder temple]

tbh don't bother debugging before then

[supple crow]

which log file should I get?

Found it, I think

[jolly berry]

[2024.09.10-00.07.01:809][ 1]LogWindows: Error: Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000020100000003

No idea. Maybe try a reboot.

If it keeps doing that.

[supple crow]

It just opened after my 4th try

idk why

they still cant join

[jolly berry]

Are they on the same network?

Probably better to start with the troubleshooting section of the wiki article and see where that gets you. https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Common_errors_or_problems

[supple crow]

They are not on the same network

[jolly berry]

So router is involved as well. All the ports need to be forwarded to the server IP and the server needs to be listening on those ports and that IP.

[supple crow]

how would I check that

would it be the listening UDP ports?

[jolly berry]

There are commands in the article to see what's listening.

[supple crow]

I cant get the comands to work it just says "Get-NetUDPEndPoint is not recongized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file."

[jolly berry]

Make sure you're in Powershell, not command prompt.

[supple crow]

was in command prompt

what am I looking for?

I see all 3 ports but it was no local address

They seem to be the same as on the wiki's photo

[jolly berry]

So you can connect but not anyone from over the internet?

[supple crow]

yes

[gleaming pike]

then you need to port forward from your router ^

[supple crow]

I did that though

[jolly berry]

Your router needs to be forwarding the same ports to the IP of your server.

[supple crow]

when I portforwarded an port for a minecraft server that worked

so if the proccess for portforwarding is different for satisfactory how would I find that out?

[gleaming pike]

The process isn't really any different, but with the current version of the server you need to port forward 3-4 different ports

[supple crow]

I port forwarded 15777 15000 7777

to UDP and TCP

[jolly berry]

Use an online port checker to make sure the 3 ports respond.

[supple crow]

they are all closed

[jolly berry]

No bueno

You are giving it your public IP right? Not the IP of your server?

[supple crow]

I port fowarded the ports though

[supple crow]

Yes

[jolly berry]

Is the WAN IP on your router the same public IP? It's possible you have a double hop through your ISP's modem.

[supple crow]

How would I check both?

[gleaming pike]

did you happen to change anything in the configuration files by chance? just curious ~

[supple crow]

No a fresh install

[gleaming pike]

ok

[supple crow]

all I have changed is the pause if no one is connected in the in game UI

[jolly berry]

Can you check with another computer that's on your internal network?

[supple crow]

would my phone work?

[jolly berry]

If it can run Satisfactory!

Dunno, there might be a port checker app that could help

Ultimately we still don't know if the problem is your computer or the network at this point.

[supple crow]

I do know what ip address is being used on my pc to search the internet

[gleaming pike]

To me it sounds like a firewall issue, either at the router, or the computer itself.

[jolly berry]

Is that the same IP that is on the router?

[supple crow]

No I have a mesh wifi set up

[jolly berry]

That doesn't matter.

[supple crow]

but my pc is connect via a wire

eithernet*

[jolly berry]

Eero?

[supple crow]

yep

[jolly berry]

The device that connects to your ISP should be the one holding the public IP.

Does the app show that to be the case?

[supple crow]

yes

well last I checked the ip was the one that is being autoset on the port forwarding tester

[jolly berry]

Ok so as long as you enter the correct local 192.168 address in the port forward, that should do it.

Yes that should be the case.

[supple crow]

when port forwarding I used the auro option, because that was the only option I had

[jolly berry]

That doesn't sound right.

Settings -> Network Settings -> Reservation & Port Forwarding

[supple crow]

I have at&t

so I went to firewall and portwarding

[jolly berry]

Does your server have a reservation set?

Wait wait

Is this on an ATT device instead of the Eero?

[supple crow]

yes, but the only option when putting the portforwarding in was the aero

[jolly berry]

If Eero holds the public IP then you shouldn't need to touch the modem or whatever they have. It's in bridge mode.

[gleaming pike]

yeah, eero is Settings -> Network Settings -> Reservation & Port Forwarding like Ghan said,

[supple crow]

ohhhhh ok

[gleaming pike]

i also have an eero setup

[supple crow]

that nice

Ok will go and do that now

[twilit fox]

Unless they're double natt'd isp router + eero

[jolly berry]

That's what I was trying to check. Confirmed that the Eero WAN IP is the same one that shows up on IP checkers online.

So now we need to set up a reservation and a port forward for the server in the Eero config.

[supple crow]

would just portforwarding on both fix that?

[jolly berry]

You should only need to port forward via Eero.

[twilit fox]

No.

[gleaming pike]

eero only

[twilit fox]

Ghans got you. I only know openwrt and unifi routers

[jolly berry]

Eero for some reason only likes to do port forwarding when you have a DHCP reservation set.

Is the server set to a static IP in Windows?

[gleaming pike]

it should reserve it from the eero side tbh

afaik

[jolly berry]

Sure, as long as the client is set to DHCP.

Typically with servers you set them with a static IP but then Eero can't just forward a port... annoying.

[gleaming pike]

I have several static IP's which are port forwarded through eero ^

(not trying to get off topic here from the help, but its possible)

[jolly berry]

Cool! I guess I didn't figure it out.

[supple crow]

Ok got that all set up

[jolly berry]

All 3 ports UDP?

[supple crow]

yep

[lost frost]

Hi everyone, I've managed to get my port forwards done for the standard ports (15000, 7777, 15777) via the Wolviex container flow.

I want to run another simultaneous container. I modified the
SERVERBEACONPORT=15000 -> 15008
SERVERGAMEPORT=7777->7778
SERVERQUERYPORT=15777->15778

I changed the host/container forwards to match each other
15008/15008
7778/7778
15778/15778

I forwarded these additional ports to the existing server on my router.

the second server container boots, but doesn't allow me to connect, despite manually chaning the client port to 15778. Is there somethingn else I need to do?

[jolly berry]

Sounds good

[supple crow]

time to try to get one of my friends on again to test it out lol

thanks guys so much 🙂

[jolly berry]

Port checker shows open?

[jolly berry]

Server firewall?

[lost frost]

I didnt open the server firewalls for the default (its a clean ubuntu 24.04) ports, let me check ufw

[gleaming pike]

yeah ufw

[jolly berry]

That gives me time to Google Wolviex hehehe

ur a whitelisted link!

[supple crow]

um I port forwarded all the things but the port forwarding tester is still saying its closed

[jolly berry]

🙂

[lost frost]

haha it's docker hub wolveix/satisfactory-server

[jolly berry]

I assume you rebuilt the container after updating the published ports? Does the server show the ports listening?

[lost frost]

ufw is totally inactive:

[supple crow]

How would I rebuilt the container?

[jolly berry]

That was for @lost frost

[supple crow]

oh

[gleaming pike]

is the server running? 😛

[jolly berry]

^

[lost frost]

ooooo this just showed up in the secondary container

UpdateUI: skip show logo[  0%] !!! Fatal Error: Steamcmd needs to be online to update. Please confirm your network connection and try again.
src/tier0/threadtools.cpp (3465) : Assertion Failed: Illegal termination of worker thread 'Thread(0x0x66023670/0x0xf4824b'

[jolly berry]

Something's angry

[lost frost]

I wonder if steamcmd needs a UUID or something? PGID/PUID?

[supple crow]

I just restarted the server

[gleaming pike]

shouldn't if you connect as anonymous for updates

[supple crow]

still saying their closed

[jolly berry]

Does Eero show your device is online?

And does it show the port forwards are enabled?

[supple crow]

yep the port forwarding are all online

[jolly berry]

Maybe a screencap would be helpful

[supple crow]

how?

[jolly berry]

Just to double check.

[supple crow]

how would I do this?

[jolly berry]

So if Eero is correct and you still can't see the ports, it's either your device still having problems or something upstream of Eero.

[supple crow]

the eero is on automatic and not bridge

is that the problem?

[jolly berry]

No. Eero should be getting the WAN IP from the ATT modem.

Did you change anything on the modem itself?

[supple crow]

other than the port forwarding on the modem i dont think so

[jolly berry]

Uh oh

The modem should probably not be doing any port forwarding.

Now here is where a screenshot might be even more helpful because I don't know what model device we're dealing with or how it's set up.

If you told the modem to send ports somewhere other than the Eero public IP, then you're essentially throwing that traffic in the garbage.

[supple crow]

so the problem is my parents are the one who do the settings on the eero and router I dont have access to that

[gleaming pike]

Are you certain you're even forwarding to the proper internal IP of the server (the system hosting the server)

[supple crow]

😬

[gleaming pike]

oh

[jolly berry]

We do good work here, but that might be a little outside our area of expertise.

xD

[supple crow]

dang

would undoing the port forwarding on the model help maybe?

[jolly berry]

It's not clear what the network topology is here and that's important when trying to get inbound communication from the internet.

Possibly.

[supple crow]

before I do that Ghan want to see if you can connect to the server?

[jolly berry]

If the port checker fails then I assume we're swimming upstream here.

[lost frost]

My issue was that they were sharing a volume location (grumble) so both servers were thrashing the same files

[jolly berry]

No, I'm locking this file! No, I am locking this file! Get your pids off my file!

[supple crow]

well I justed checked the minecraft port and it says it no working, but the minecraft server was just working yesterday

[jolly berry]

What changed on the modem/Eero between then and now?

[supple crow]

other than more port forwarding nothing

[jolly berry]

^

sus

[gleaming pike]

So... is the server running? 😛

[supple crow]

which one?

minecraft or satisfactory

[gleaming pike]

Both, actually. 😛

[supple crow]

no only the satisfactory server is running

[lost frost]

semaphores are for weaklings; real programmers fight for their access

[jolly berry]

Things We Don't Know(tm):

• Does the ATT modem do routing too?
• If so, to what?
• What is the WAN IP and what is the LAN subnet?
• What is the WAN IP on the Eero?
• Is it in a private subnet or public?

Alternately, take your server down to the local ATT office and plug it in there to check. xD

(I jest)

[gleaming pike]

imagine

[gleaming pike]

is the minecraft server and satisfactory server on the same machine?

[supple crow]

yes

[supple crow]

How would I find those out?

[gleaming pike]

hmm.

[jolly berry]

Visual inspection is a good start.

[gleaming pike]

Can you open cmd and type ipconfig ?

[jolly berry]

What is physically cabled to what?

[supple crow]

my pc to the motem

[jolly berry]

Uhh

[gleaming pike]

Check and see if your IPv4 address matches that of which you're port forwarding to.

[jolly berry]

That seems doubtful

Your PC is probably connected to one of the Eero access points

On the LAN side I would hope

[gleaming pike]

If your minecraft server is no longer working, and it was yesterday, this tells me that the address may have also changed.

[supple crow]

im booting up the server now to check

[jolly berry]

In Ficsit Massage 2(AB)-B, server checks YOU!!

[supple crow]

?

[gleaming pike]

I'm assuming at this point the servers are on a windows machine, right?

[supple crow]

yes

[gleaming pike]

can you type into the search bar, cmd and open that

then type ipconfig

it'll give you some information.

[supple crow]

alr

[gleaming pike]

Check and see if the IPv4 address that appears there, is the same address* you're trying to port forward to in eero.

[supple crow]

what am I looking for?

No the ip address that is going out to the internet is a different one

[gleaming pike]

In eero when you're port forwarding, you'd want to port forward those server ports to that IPv4 address

[supple crow]

we portforwarded to my pc

[gleaming pike]

Well if that's what the servers on, yes.

[supple crow]

ok we did that then

the server is on my pc

[gleaming pike]

okay

[supple crow]

ok so the minecraft server works

[jolly berry]

Progress!

What changed?

[gleaming pike]

The satisfactory one should, too. If the ports are forwarded to your pc the same way the minecraft ones are.

[supple crow]

ghan or tumeden wanna check?

[gleaming pike]

java or bedrock? lol

[supple crow]

my freinds got to annoyed to check

[gleaming pike]

or satisfactory?

[supple crow]

satisfactory

[gleaming pike]

i probably can

[supple crow]

horray

[gleaming pike]

Just need to DM the address

I can attempt to connect

Okay, can confirm it works.