dedicated-servers

[ocean heath]

I'm considering renting a server from a hosting service. Since there are a lot of options with very different prices I wanted to ask if you had any bad experiences with any particular host so I can get an idea of what to expect. Maybe this has been discussed in the past and someone can point me to that?

[whole dome]

With the current state of the dedicated server I would hold off renting until 1.0

[ocean heath]

once 1.0 drops i'm planning to play solo for a while. I want to do this in the meantime, despite the flaws

[glad nest]

just steer clear of nitrado is all i know

[ornate grotto]

Some have said Indifferent Broccoli, but others have had trouble with them. I think it's personal choice, but IB have a free trial you can use to test

[ocean heath]

Name rang a bell but i didn't remember if it was for good or bad reasons. Now it's clear

[ocean heath]

Worth a try, thanks

[karmic merlin]

I'm using IB, performance + support is fine, main issues with the servers are not on IB's side, but more on Satis side. Update 7 was fine with some issues in late game and update 8... well, we need to wait for 1.0 🙂

[deep turret]

dedicated-servers current state, is a souls game boss
not impossible to get, but you will burn yourself to it on many aspects before enjoying it fully

[twilit fox]

I can't connect to my server. [: it's hung at connecting until it gets a time out. server console says it's opening a route to my client, I've disabled ufw. surely it's nothing to do with the server only having 4GB of ram that it refuses to start lol

..maybe? I don't have any errors in the logs.

Maybe there's something else odd keeping me from connecting.. this is my first time setting up a linux server and I don't exactly expect it to be playable on a intel N100 that's already under a heavy load.

[twilit fox]

Yeah, I've restarted the VM, and it's using ~18% of 6GB of ram and it still won't let me connect

[desert oak]

Check that your firewall is open to udp on 1500

[twilit fox]

ufw is disabled.

launching it with the -DisablePacketRouting flag fixed it

[ruby bridge]

yea, it auto mounts to ipv6, doing multihome 0.0.0.0 or disable packet routing, or disabling ipv6 on the host fixes it.

[twilit fox]

ah, alright. appreciate it.. I thought the :fffff looked odd in the log.

I'll look into disabling ipv6 on the host so I won't have that issue if I use this dedi for 1.0

[ruby bridge]

sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1
sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6=1```
reboot no more ipv6

[grim mica]

The multihome and disablepacketrouting in 1.0 will likely not be an issue

They have essentially rewritten the networking components of the DS to all flow through 7777 so there will be no internal packet router, eliminating 15000 and 15777 from the traffic flows. Though I suppose IPv6 might be a problem still, we really wont know until we get the 1.0 DS update.

[grim mica]

On this.. if you are using a limited size box, that would make sense as the U8 DS has something called StreamingAssets enabled, though that is officially (from Epic) unsupported. Disabling it will increase performance, reliability (with vehicles/trains/hypertubes) but doesnt really 'fix' any of the major bugs so it may be worth it to leave enabled for your machine. See #dedicated-servers message

I would also keep in mind that the DS process is essentially running the full simulation (minus draw calls) as if you were running it on your actual machine and a low-end processor might be fine for early game.. getting into mid/end game type worlds will likely cause your dedicated save time freezes to get pretty high, not to mention it being unable to keep a reliable tickrate at 30.

[twilit fox]

StreamingAssets is enabled by default? My box has a N100, which is 4 alder lake E-cores. Definitely not a high performance processor as it's comparable to the 2700k, just uses much less power.

[grim mica]

Correct, streamingassets is enabled by default, one moment

Check this #dedicated-servers message and this #dedicated-servers message

[twilit fox]

Huh.. so that's part of the reason trains and hypertubes got so bad. Thanks

[grim mica]

Disabling it fixes some of the problems, but certainly not all - it does however make an empty save use ~8G at startup and it will only increase from there, so your 6GB would probably be swapping quite a bit

[ruby bridge]

It also caused some other issues, such as increased game stuttering, and some fairly big performance hits when multiple people were online for me.

[twilit fox]

I wish I knew about that months ago. guess that's what happens when you're out of the loop

[glass charm]

anyone know how to set a dedicated server up

does it cost money?

[kindred parcel]

steam has a tool for the dedicated server if you plan to do it your self or you can rent a server

[kindred parcel]

the tool is free unlike renting a server

[grim mica]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Installation

[twilit fox]

sorry for the ping, to disable streaming assets.. -StreamingAssets=disabled ?

[grim mica]

Negative, is a cvar in Engine.ini

[twilit fox]

gotcha

[twilit fox]

well.. I almost found it.. should've gone with find in the first place lol

can I specify default ports in there as well?

[grim mica]

I think those are only startup variables

[twilit fox]

ah, that's fine I can write a script for it. well, it worked. server eats up the the 8GB of ram allocated for the VM and dies.

[twilit fox]

Yeah, I guess I can't run the dedi on this machine without either shutting down my other VM's or buying more memory.. homelabbing on a budget is hard.. or reenable streamingassets.

[grim mica]

Unless you were having problems, can always reenable streamingassets.. it probably will only have a bigger impact on megabase worlds, I am guessing that CPU will be a problem before the memory or streaming on your box

[twilit fox]

Well.. I've enabled it on my bigger box.. and I can't join. memory skyrockets to 14GB, the server says I've joined but I've timed out on my client -.-

[grim mica]

I see that IPv6 in the log, run multihome?

[twilit fox]

odd.. I didn't have that issue with the windows server before

yeah.. i think that killed it

maybe it's not relevant.. changing the value of steamingassets from 0 to 1 in engine ini makes the game joinable again.

[grim mica]

That 'error' shows up everytime on mine

How large is your save and what CPU is on the other machine?
This guy had the same problem but was using a ~12y old CPU to load a ~2MB world and it took 24m #dedicated-servers message

[twilit fox]

8MB save. Hyper v VM with 4 cores on a 7700k.

It ran this save on u7 without issues (although it was smaller then)

[tawny garden]

Hey, our satisfactory world is getting really laggy and buggy. SOme of us keep disconnecting. Is this normal just because the world is getting more complicated?

[twilit fox]

It's possible that the server needs 5 miuntes to load.. the save is decently sized.. and it does go offline when I try to join.. so perhaps it still has more stuff to load.

I didn't exactly give it longer than a miunte to do something

[grim mica]

Takes a 9900k a little over 2m to load a 20mb world, so might be

[twilit fox]

I'll try it again tomorrow and give it some time to see if it comes back up. I just found it odd that it says I've joined successfully, and then the server stops responding lol

Yup, that sounds like exactly what's happening. I should work on my patience.

[spiral prism]

How do you move the edited save file from satisfactory calculator into your server

Got the .sav file done but not sure how to make the server see the changes

[ornate grotto]

Servers with streaming disabled take a LOT longer to start up, like 15-20 mins in some cases. Just watch the CPU load, it will spike then drop once world is actually loaded.

[ornate grotto]

If you are hosting the server you need to put it in the save game location (see Wiki for default paths). If you are renting, then you'll need to upload to your server via their allowed method

[royal blade]

Copy the sav file to "C:\Users\ [YourWindowsUsername] \appdata\local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\ [YourSteamID]".
Then start satisfactory and when you go to Server Manager you can upload that save to the server.

If that's what you meant...

[grim orchid]

Have anyone here heard of a DS bug where characters duplicate and fall through the ground upon unlocking certain milestones? I have a non-english speaking friend reporting that and is looking for a fix (I have never played dedicated servers)

[ornate grotto]

TBH never heard of that before, unless the server is low on resources and is losing connection brielfly

[ornate grotto]

If you lose connection and rejoin too quickly, it puts you in a new body

[grim mica]

I dont think ive ever fallen through the ground.. pretty odd issue to have

[grim mica]

Is that reproducable or just occurs randomly? My guess is a Streaming issue where a connected player loads in too quickly and everything doesnt get sent by the server somehow. I would try to set the 'wp.Runtime.EnableServerStreaming=0' in engine.ini on the server (and restart it) to see if that helps.

[grim orchid]

Reportedly, after the HUB upgrade 4. And I mean "reportedly" literally, because apparently clients are reporting his server for that 😅 I'll suggest that

[weary ermine]

I've been looking around at hosting 2 servers for two seperate groups who want to play. Is it really as simple as just changing the ports that are exposed?

I'm running the current server in a docker container, so it would be simple enough to just spin up a new one with a different config path and name

[grim mica]

Yep, you could use NAT on your firewall and just keep the default ports for both instances and point 3 different ports at the new instance, though I would honestly just use the startup variables to change the ports for the new instance and forward those

[weary ermine]

Awesome thanks. I kept seeing different things saying it either wasn't possible or was incredibly difficult, but they weren't talking about docker-based setups.

I don't have a lot of experience with docker (just a mild amount through work) but I thought it would be pretty easy with it.

Thanks!

[grim mica]

Even if it wasnt containerized should matter as long as the ports are different, though not sure how to deal with save files.. perhaps a different user. Either way with a container you are fine since its local to that instance

[deep turret]

it picks its session, usually you want different session
save files are snapshots so they can be loaded multiple times at the same time it's safe

[grim mica]

Right, more was talking about running multiple servers within the same instance of an OS/docker container. The save files would be located at the typical place but how would the server know which to load from when it does the 24h 'restart' if both worlds are being saved and an autosave happens to coincide with the others reboot.. Either way just weird save file handling with multiple server instances using the same user/savegame path

Hence the suggestion that within a container, all is fine or running it as another user on the same machine (again using different ports) would solve the save file issue

[deep turret]

1. I said it picks its session, and different instances usually have different sessions
2. multiple run of the server are literally multiple instances
   there is no single instance multiple instanciation, it's contradiction
3. if it ever picks the same save file for whatever reason it will not be a big problem (so easily troubleshooted from server manager)

I'm not talking about a different thing

[grim mica]

I dont know how this works on Linux.. perhaps its different, however on Windows if I go and clear this folder of all save files and put some random one in that the server has never seen before it will load it no questions asked.

Where are sessions denoted that the server could keep track of? Just knows the name of the save? What about a physical restart if the server instances are coming up from scratch - wont they both load the same latest save file?

[deep turret]

you likely put same session saves back in there

each server instance will have its own (unless you explicitly tell it to use the same)
because every instance have its own setup

(for each instance you will have a server name, passwords, server settings, session/save names)

server setup informations are stored in ServerSettings.<port> files unders ~../Saved

each instances use different port

(this is not linux/windows dependent)

[grim mica]

Ah interesting.. okay you are absolutely correct

I have in the past however cleaned out the 'server' folder and it loaded whatever save I put in there, guess it doesnt really care but does keep track of the session based on the serversettings like you said

Actually.. maybe I am remembering incorrectly and just selected the save in the 'Load Game' because it didnt auto-load. Wellp - the more you know - thanks for clarifying

[deep turret]

no problem

[weary ermine]

So I'm trying to spin up a second server, and I'm using the wolveix/satisfactory-server Docker image. I have one server that runs perfectly fine, but I cannot get a second server to run along side it.

This is the command I'm using to run the server, it's the same one as is in the readme on Github

I added --env SERVERGAMEPORT as an attempt to get it to work but that didn't do anything either lol

I've forwarded the ports in my router, allowed the ports in ufw, but when I run the container it says it's offline

[grim mica]

Guessing you need to set all 3?

[tawny garden]

Are they fixing dedicated servers with 1.0?

[weary ermine]

Sometimes the simplest answer is right in your face and you just can't see it 🤦‍♂️ thanks lol

[wicked knot]

#announcements message

[twilit fox]

My servers back up with streaming disabled.. so I guess something got corrupted or.. was just being weird. Enabling streaming it would work, disabled it would hang at player joined successfully.. validating the files seems to have fixed it.. no more buggy trains and a healthy 14gb of ram usage, yay.

[desert oak]

14GB, this is fine

[dreamy lark]

To whomever hosts their own server, how large can your server files be?

[twilit fox]

Til it refuses to load

[grim mica]

Pretty sure there is no different between server and client, so if the client loads it.. server should as well

[deep turret]

Server file ?
what file are you talking about ?

[dreamy lark]

Like if you host locally

[deep turret]

what if you host locally

locally is a location
I'm asking What are you talking about

it's like if you were asking me "what's the car equipment size ?"
I response "car equipment ? what equipment are you talking about ?"
and you responded
"like if you put your car in your garage"

[hazy portal]

hey for some reason me and my friend cant get a dedicated server to work i can see that we are connecting to it from the server side but nothing is happening on the client

[deep turret]

nothing ? like nothing at all ?

it doesnt give you errors or other thing ?

[hazy portal]

thats all i get

[deep turret]

is this a local connection ?

[hazy portal]

the server computer is just in an other room

[deep turret]

I mean you enter the local ip of the server directly to connect to it ?

[hazy portal]

yes

[deep turret]

then double check the server machine firwall rules

for the required ports to be open

otherwise give it enough time, and restart client to recheck

[hazy portal]

i got an error this time

just looks like a timeout

i just check the ports again and they should be open

[deep turret]

then maybe you can try -multihome=0.0.0.0

[hazy portal]

LogServer: Bound Server Query Socket to address '0.0.0.0:15777'

how long should it take for the server to boot it less than a second for me

[deep turret]

it takes multiple tens seconds to load the save and everything

when huge savefile it can take up to 15min

[hazy portal]

there is no save

this is first time setup

[2024.06.27-06.32.05:256][ 0]LogGame: Warning: EOS metrics, invalid handle.
[2024.06.27-06.32.05:256][ 0]LogGame: Telemetry, starting service.
[2024.06.27-06.32.05:257][ 0]LogGame: Warning: Telemetry, no local player found .

i doubt that this means anything

wait eos is epic

welp after reinstalling both the game and server i think its time for bed

[spiral prism]

Sorry for the confusion. I am renting a server currently and cant find how to upload the new save through the ftp file access

Like I’ve done all the steps and now I just have to give the data to the server but im not sure how to make it read it and accept the edited save

[ornate grotto]

If it's in the right location, you should be able to load it through Server Manager in game

[spiral prism]

ill have a look thanks

[weary ermine]

Is there a way to stop the server from restarting through a console command?

Or maybe a way to change what time it does it's restart?

[viscid ore]

Didn't realize the server auto restarted

As far as I knew it was running constantly unless it crashed. On my configuration, nssm would then relaunch the server almost immediately

[wicked knot]

Same here. It would have to be set up as a service, and restarts added to system event scheduler

[grim mica]

It auto restarts every 24h, from the last time it started up - so start it up when you arent going to be on it

It doesnt actually 'restart' just saves and re-loads the map - the process stays up. If you want to circumvent it, exactly as ShadeTree says setup a scheduled task to kill and restart it at whatever time you want (before the 24h window)

[cyan rain]

When you get this with timeout of 20.00 it's mostly that you're trying to connect during an autosave

[hazy portal]

There is no world to save through

[viscid ore]

Can't wait for 1.0 where only 1 port is used

And the other improvements

I think it's gonna help with ease of setting up server

[deep turret]

technically it will still be 2 ports
but

1. it will be more reliable
2. it will be same port number

[viscid ore]

Ok

[mortal birch]

How many cores does the dedicated-server scale with?

more cores = more performance?
can you only assign a certain number of cores? e.g. only 4 or 8 cores?

my system:
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2699v4 (22c44t)
RAM: 64GB DDR4

[grim mica]

Does not scale linearly like that, generally all of the main logic is on one loop though there are many threads that do other stuff

Id say you are probably fine with 4-6, and its mainly frequency that will drive performance after that

[mortal birch]

ok thank you

I still have the system sitting around and wanted to turn it into a game server anyway

[grim mica]

Sometimes.. ~8y old hardware is left to be doing just that.. sitting around 🙂

Here's the load of a single (endgame save) on a 9900k, lots of load on one core, bit spread to the others but it uses all 16 logical..

See this as well when running server on old hardware #dedicated-servers message

[mortal birch]

then I shouldn't have a problem with my hardware ^^

The system should manage additional game servers. then I have good cards with my CPU

complete system
CPU Intel Xeon e5-2699v4 22core
MB: MSI Godlike X99a
8x8GB DDR4 RAM
2TB M.2 SSD
2x 1Gbit Network

[dusty vortex]

Indeed with that many core, and the game being single core heavy, you could run multiple instances and they would all equally perform poorly come mid to late game.

But you could, yes.

[mortal birch]

Anything else I should keep in mind based on your experiences?

[deep turret]

good cards ?

[mortal birch]

cpu to low for that?

[deep turret]

you may be facing the dedicated server like an elden-ring boss fight until it works for you, if you really dont want to fiddle with it, wait for 1.0 unfortunately

[grim mica]

E5-2699v4 has an very low clock speed.. so yes - you might have problems mid/late game but could probably run many early/mid game worlds

[deep turret]

I'm just confused by what do you mean by "good cards" ?

[mortal birch]

By that I mean that this CPU should be sufficient.

About 4-6 players should be able to play on it

[deep turret]

you will probably struggle starting at 3 player

also, ok but cpu is not a card, I'm still confused a bit, but nvm

[grim mica]

Interposer = card? 😄

[mortal birch]

good cards = hardware sufficient

[dusty vortex]

I started on a system with 2x E5-2964-v4. (Same gen/class CPU your using but with fewer yet very slightly faster cores)

Early game worked ok.. mid game performance sucked, moved it to a i9-13900, mid game performance was ok, end game performance was somewhat playable with 6 players.

[desert walrus]

Not entirely true? Most of the logic is handled in separate threads, there's just one manager thread responsible for dishing out tasks

[mortal birch]

but it will definitely be enough. I think it's excessive to buy new hardware just for this reason.

I'll just see how far it will go and when problems will arise.

[dusty vortex]

Good enough to get you started 👍
Might not be good enough to get you finished.

You can always move your save world to another server at a later date when things get bogged down, as I did when it became to sluggish.

[mortal birch]

First we'll see how long the group wants to play intensively on my Discord, it will be similar to Minecraft

Nothing for 3/4 of a year and then another 4 weeks straight

[open dawn]

any idea on how to use DN on cloudflare?

for the server?

[grim mica]

What is cloudflare 'dn'? Do you mean DNS?

[open dawn]

DOMAIN NAME

sry caps

[open dawn]

basically

[grim mica]

The client will resolve DNS names in the server manager, so just make an A record pointing to your IP and all done

[open dawn]

really that easy

bruh

[grim mica]

Really no purpose other than to have an easy to remember name to connect

What's the point though?

[open dawn]

timeout lol

[grim mica]

DNS just takes 'blah.something.com' and turns it into an IP ('1.1.1.1') will not help with timeouts or connection issues

[open dawn]

ye ik

ye worked

bruh

[deep turret]

I mean it's literally what it has been made for

[tight stump]

Hey Guys Im new here. I am getting there errors/warnings when i start my server. If anyone know how to fix any of these I would appreciate the help getting these resolved. Also the tractors going around the world aren't synced or something they studder all over on the server load but in single player they seem to run fine.. Thanks!

[grim mica]

Aside from the blueprint errors most of that is normal

Vehicles have known issues on dedicated servers though.. I doubt any of those errors have anything to do with it

[tight stump]

yeah I get these after I join. Good to know most of those errors are known. Guess I will have to wait for a fix

[wispy meteor]

Hi guys, I want to create a dedicated server and I was thinking if it would be possible to do that on a proxmox cluster?

[grim mica]

Dont see why not, thats a hypervisor.. so you can run it from a VM

[deep turret]

promox also support docker

[wispy meteor]

Thanks guys. I am trying to get a dedicated server going while keeping power consumption down since electricity comes at a premium here. I would also appreciate if you have suggestions for a low-power setup that can hold a dedicated server

[deep turret]

1. if you use a big system, use it only once, put most you can safely on it so you don't have to run other machines for it
2. prefer fast small cpu over slow big cpus if you have choice
   slow big cpus are more efficient under high parallel loads, for home use most services will be idling most of the time, so this is waste of energy
3. if you use vm don't over provision it, avoid wake-up/shutdowns as possible, including reoccurring services
   for everything else prefer steady well dimensioned components over big bursting ones

P.S: when I say small cpu I'm mostly talking about core count and absolute tdp

[frank jasper]

Hello, sorry to repost, wasn't sure if this channel was purely for experimental servers not that dedicated servers as a whole were experimental. I've made a thread in the Q&H over here if anyone could take a look 🙈 thanks!
https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1256549991972081665

Happy to repost here if its in the wrong place let me know

[unreal tiger]

my server is still running an old intel xeon e5-2680v1 and i'm playing with 3 players, playing isn't any problem however items on belt get removed and placed somewhere else meaning it doesn't sync well

[viscid ore]

default ups is 30?

[ruby bridge]

There is one known issue with proxmox, the server will not function unless you set the CPU type to host mode.

[viral canyon]

My dad was playing on our server when it suddenly crashed and is stuck in a bootloop since. Repairing files didn't help and I cannot make any sense out of the logs. Might someone be able to help me?

[deep turret]

check the ram use

[viral canyon]

Doesn't get far enough to show it

[grim mica]

Post the log? Otherwise we are just guessing

Does it load a new/empty world? What is the error/crash before it 'bootloops'?

[deep turret]

wdym ?

[viral canyon]

I'm not running the server myself (yet, actually preparing for that)
Also didn't change anything but now it's working again so I think hardware issue at the host?

[deep turret]

if you are paying for a satisfactory service provider
then ask about that provider

else you have always access to what I was talking about

[drowsy oriole]

Is it appropriate to try trouble shooting

In this channel*

I’m in a pickle and a little stumped tbh

My issue is it shows its not authenticated to my friends that are afar. Its running fine locally (on a separate mini pc, not the one I’m playing on) and I have it set up using steamcmd. I gave buddies my ipv4 for the server and have all 3 of the ports open (15000 15777 and 7777) but they cant connect or see any of the info. I tried to see if ipv6 was the problem using the -multihome= command but it just prevented me from connecting myself (tried 0.0.0.0 and the outward facing ipv4, havent tried inward facing ipv4)

Lmk if anyone needs more info or would like to help…

[drowsy oriole]

now I need to authenticate it but I cant find the authnetication password lmao

its not in the log where its supposed to be at all

I deleted the server settings, re created it with a different name, using the same save and password.. friends cannot see it as authenticated despite me "authenticating it" and accessing it locally. seems to be a network issue of some kind ig..

[deep turret]

the multihome setting must be used with ip on the server machine, the public ip should be given to your friends,
both server machine firewall and router forwarding ports should be configured
-multihome must not prevent you from connecting locally

did you check your port rules are for UDP (not TCP) ?

[drowsy oriole]

I used the outward facing ipv4 and it crashed the server, we use both protocals

I wil ltry it with inward facing one

[deep turret]

what are you talking about, you are talking about what ip but not for what use

[drowsy oriole]

give me a moment

outward facing being uplic ip address

inward facing being local on network

I used pub ipv4 during multihome and it just crashed the server on start

[deep turret]

then you already said that and I already explained only server machine ip must be used with multihome

[drowsy oriole]

alright I'll give that a try

give me like 3 mins tops

alright server is up, added the multihome with the pc's internal ip, I can connect time to see if friend can connect rn...

and no dice.

we did just upgrade out wifi. no idea if that has anything to do with it but as my father is.. experienced.. in IT he said he has to config the modem. Which I mean ig could be apart of it.. opened everything up on the routers but if the modem isnt allowing outside traffic

[deep turret]

wdym about router and modem
sounds like you have dual router
port forwarding must be done at each

dual router is common when your isp is supplying one mandatory to you and you want your own behind it

[drowsy oriole]

We have fiber and its just what I was told we have an eero 7 and whatever at&t’s modem is so it could be hung up there just cant confirm as I dont have complete access (dont really want or need it)

[unreal tiger]

even without multihome, after my problems, my friends can connect over ipv4 while i'm not using the multihome switch, however I do have dual stack ipv4 and ipv6

[ornate grotto]

It could be that some ISP's don't allow you to host servers.

[ornate grotto]

Try using -DisablePacketRouting instead of multihome. That sometimes works

[deep turret]

in which case there would be no port forwarding settings

[ornate grotto]

Not necessarily, they just use NAT infront of any router

[deep turret]

that's still defeating port forwarding

[ornate grotto]

There was someone in here recently saying they had set up port forwarding, but they they contacted their ISP and they didn't allow it

[deep turret]

if they put port forwarding settings in these setup it is fake misleading shit

why ? : because ANY port forwarding, is ultimately making your network act as server side, networking wise "server" only means that
and so is port forwarding,
and so port forwarding is only useful for that

[ornate grotto]

Because they just throw out the same router config at the premises, then allow/deny based on account level

[deep turret]

I'm against playing the isp's lawyer, They give the interface, They are misleading
it could be simple for the router to check if the line allow for that or not, and provide the option or not accordingly (it would also improve the router network performance altogether by removing useless NAT rules)

you provide no port forwarding option, fine
you provde port forwarding option, fine
you provide port forwarding option AND prevent it at network level : NOT FINE

[ornate grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-shrug-idk-muppet-gif-15462505

[ashen briar]

Hey, i get this error

what does it mean?

[ruby bridge]

I mean, if its CG-NAT its probably just an added cost they didnt take. It may not be them just out right blocking it, it could just be its not possible.

[drowsy oriole]

Hosted servers for other games and services on same isp before so its not this

[deep turret]

then I meant they could easily disable the option on the routers behind cg-nat
most routers are already considered to probe for their public address

[ruby bridge]

Alot of money for < 1% of users who will even notice or care

[deep turret]

the point is, it's not a lot of money

it's ~15 lignes of code

and it will always work

going from

{ "upstream-ip": <number>,
  "upstream-net": <whatever>
}``` to
```json
{ "upstream-ip": <number>,
  "upstream-net": <whatever>,
  "net-type": "CG-NAT"/"modem",
}``` 
then just hide the NAT menu behind
```js
if (upstream.info.net-type == "modem")
{
    menu.add(../nat);
}

and you are done

half to full day of code work for a single person, for better services for thousands clients for multiple years

along with less ammunition for multiple kind of law suits

[crisp pond]

How do I start the dedicated server on my laptop, while the game is running on my main pc?

[deep turret]

follow the wiki

[swift shuttle]

Hello!
I'm trying to setup a server for me and my friends using the oracle cloud free arm64 tier! I've gotten though the steamcmd and game server shenanigans to run them with box64 and box86, and it is almost fully working! However, after the server starts, it runs for a short bit like 30 seconds (enough for me to connect and sometimes my friends) and then it's gone, I cant paste the link to the full logs here, but I've uploaded it to pastebin and here is the code: yX3kphFx.

What I've tried:

• Running with -multihome=ip with ip set to "0.0.0.0", all my local ip's that appear in ifconfig with the one that actually appears in game being "10.0.0.36", also tried -multihome=::.
• Tried disabling ipv6 .
• Reinstalling box64
• Running with -DisablePacketRouting

I'm running on a ubuntu distro. Has anyone encountered this before? Thanks in advance!!

[deep turret]

you said then it's gone
then showed you tried all the connection failing troubleshooting
.. even though you said you actually successfully connected

you meant you had timeout or something ?

[swift shuttle]

I mean, the server does successfully run for like 30 seconds, the crash log is on Pastebin, the main thing i believe its this:

[2024.07.01-02.54.17:762][757]LogCore: === Critical error: ===
Unhandled Exception: SIGSEGV: invalid attempt to read memory at address 0x0000000000000003
 
[2024.07.01-02.54.17:763][757]LogCore: Assertion failed: !bShouldEnforceAllocMarks || NumMarks > 0 [File:Runtime/Core/Public\Misc/MemStack.h] [Line: 122]

Also its not the client that times out, the server does crash and the process stops running on my oracle cloud machine.

[deep turret]

that's a null dereference (the shown bug)
now it probably happens because you didn't let it enough time to fully load, 30s on that kind of machine sounds low
watch the process go idle before connecting
so it does not play catch up the work

[swift shuttle]

Ok will try that now!

Ok, so i left it running for 5 minutes before making the first connection, still after like 20 seconds of running around it crashed to the same error!

Should i leave it running for more time before first connect?

[deep turret]

what do you do once connected ?

[swift shuttle]

I've tried been completely still and got the same result as just running around, which is the crash, also a little below in the crash log this appears:

0x00007fff0053089f libUnrealServer-Co


0x7e22058000000000 !UnknownFunction()

[2024.07.01-03.34.42:181][436]LogExit: Executing StaticShutdownAfterError
Engine crash handling finished; re-raising signal 11 for the default handler. Good bye.
1796|SIGSEGV @0xffff90ee3d78 (gsignal(/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6)) (x64pc=0x409b3/???:"???", rsp=0x64a5d938, stack=0xffff88ee4000:0xffff890e4000 own=0xffff88ee4000 fp=0x7fff46142605), for accessing 0x3e9000006fa (code=-6/prot=0), db=(nil)((nil):(nil)/(nil):(nil)/???:clean, hash:0/0) handler=(nil)
RSP-0x20:0x0000000500000005 RSP-0x18:0x0000000064a5e4a0 RSP-0x10:0x0000000066c6c210 RSP-0x08:0x0000000000000724
RSP+0x00:0x00007fff0073fa7d RSP+0x08:0x0000000000000000 RSP+0x10:0x0000000000000000 RSP+0x18:0x0000000000000000
RAX:0x0000000000000000 RCX:0x0000000000000000 RDX:0x0000000000000000 RBX:0x0000000000230350
RSP:0x0000000064a5d938 RBP:0x00007fff46142605 RSI:0x0000000064a5da90 RDI:0x000000000000000b
 R8:0x00007fff00267ea0  R9:0x0000000000000000 R10:0x0000000000000000 R11:0x0000000000000000
R12:0x0000000064a62868 R13:0x0000000000000000 R14:0x0000000064a5e4a0 R15:0x000000000000000b
ES:0x002b CS:0x0033 SS:0x002b DS:0x002b FS:0x0043 GS:0x0053
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Don't know if has anything to do with anything

[swift shuttle]

These are the last lines of the crash though, the othere ones i've sent you are a little above

[deep turret]

do you have enough ram ?

[swift shuttle]

Should do, the oracle machine has 24gb

or should have anyway

[deep turret]

you are loading a new world ?

[swift shuttle]

Yep, in the top command shows MiB Mem: 23987.7
But I did notice it uses only around 5% when the server is running, I do not know how to force it to use more though

[swift shuttle]

Yes!

And the creation itself works, the server only crashes when someone connects for the first time!

[deep turret]

must disable server streaming

[swift shuttle]

Could you tell me how to do it ?

[deep turret]

not right now but later yes
or someone else explain it to you
I don't have access to my own setup currently

[swift shuttle]

That would be very helpful, its late here where i live, maybe tomorrow?

Feel free to add me on discord if you wanna talk this over more thoroughly, ill be sure to write a guide here in this server to help anyone that faces the same problem!

[deep turret]

ok, could confirm it
(/srv/Satisfactory) FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/ go there
at the end of Engine.ini
add

wp.Runtime.EnableServerStreaming=0
```you may need to set the file as read-only so the server does not remove that setting

single command :

echo '[ConsoleVariables]
wp.Runtime.EnableServerStreaming=0' >> FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Engine.ini

[swift shuttle]

Will try this right now!

[swift shuttle]

Ok, so i did that change and the server seemed slower to start, so a waited a bit as per your suggestion for like 8 minutes and whenever i try to connect to the server it just times out, like, it seems to be running, but this time i cannot even enter the server. I also tried to remove this setting to see if was it causing the timeout and i was back to the crash, so it most likely is, any suggestions ?

[deep turret]

wait longer then, wait after the timeout as well for the server to settle

this relatively good, it means it is not yet crashing

it loads more stuff

[swift shuttle]

ok, just to recap, im making the first connection right? so im creating the world, i should wait AFTER creating the world right ?

[deep turret]

1 you wait the server to load up
2 you check it server manager (if everything show correclty then..)
3 you connect to game (the server will load the actual game)
4 you wait the server load up the game
5 you retry to connect

[swift shuttle]

ok, one last thing, should i still run with -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=0.0.0.0 or should i remove it ?

[deep turret]

it is better to keep it like this

[swift shuttle]

Ok, lets see

[swift shuttle]

Ok, so i waited and this time it connected!
However this time my game crashed as i loaded in, and when i looked at the server, it had also crashed with the same error i came here with.
I will try this again tomorrow and leave it for longer to see if it helps!

Thanks for the help though! You've been very kind!
See ya

[ornate grotto]

I didn't think Satisfactory was supported on ARM processors

[deep turret]

it completely is not

[ornate grotto]

@swift shuttle said above he was trying to get the server working on ARM64, that might be the problem

[deep turret]

it's only one part of it

they already details how they are running it, I'm trying to help, that's all
if in the end it does not want to run, it will not run

[keen tide]

Yo!
I have a dedicated server (4x CPU 16 GBs RAM). Enabled mobs (using Mod Manager v3) remote, installed a mod then removed the mod and the mod support. (Friend can't play modded through GeforceNOW)
(ubuntu distro)
Now I have a bunch of problems and bugs:

• Hyper tubes are BUGGY. So buggy I made a video just to show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3km--W98Q
  You get stuck into them, character freeze and sometimes it spawns me on a new character.
• Power poles doesn't work sometime
• Randomly get on a new char or an old one

---

Is this from the mods thingy? Any idea how I can sort it out ?
I can save the map, nuke the server and try again but if the buildings themselves are bugged it's still for nothing 😦

[ornate grotto]

Hypertubes and Vehicles are broken in DS, so not mod related

If you get kicked out and try and reconnect before the old one times out properly, then you will get a new body. This is a known problem and is usually the sign of a bad net connection

[keen tide]

Weird I have 1 GBps UP & DOWN and the server is on a cloud provider with 5 GBPs backend

But it makes sense now why I pop on a new char, thanks for the answers.

[deep turret]

sounds like the machine is struggling
especially if it's virtual
or connection as Gilgamoth said

[keen tide]

Is there anything I can do to make Hypertubes usable ?

[ornate grotto]

Wait for them to fix them in v1.0 😉

[keen tide]

It's a dedicated server (not shared) with 5 GBPs network

[crisp pond]

Hello guys, I am trying to set up the dedicated server but I am getting this error message:

[2024.07.01-14.36.32:191][305]PacketHandlerLog: Loaded PacketHandler component: Engine.EngineHandlerComponentFactory (StatelessConnectHandlerComponent) [2024.07.01-14.36.32:191][305]LogNet: NotifyAcceptedConnection: Name: OnlineBeaconHost_2147480241, TimeStamp: 07/01/24 16:36:32, [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: [::ffff:127.0.0.1]:49380, Name: IpConnection_2147480213, Driver: IpNetDriver_2147480239 IpNetDriver_2147480239, IsServer: YES, PC: NULL, Owner: NULL, UniqueId: INVALID [2024.07.01-14.36.32:191][305]LogNet: AddClientConnection: Added client connection: [UNetConnection] RemoteAddr: [::ffff:127.0.0.1]:49380, Name: IpConnection_2147480213, Driver: IpNetDriver_2147480239 IpNetDriver_2147480239, IsServer: YES, PC: NULL, Owner: NULL, UniqueId: INVALID
whenever someone tries to join through the public ip, but I can join normally locally

[swift shuttle]

Hello! So, i did this method here, to wait for the game to load up, and left the server up for almost 20 minutes before first connection and...

• I could connect to it
• I've entered the game (though slow in the first connect)
• After 10ish seconds the SERVER crashed with the same 0x7e22058000000000 !UnknownFunction() seg fault thing (the same error I've came here with).

I don't know if i could give any additional info to help you with this, if so lmk!

[swift shuttle]

Yes, it isn't officially supported, though I've almost made it work with the box64 emulator, as I said, the server does load, and I'm able to connect to it (even my friends are), however after some moments it crashes.
This is the crash log pastebin com/yX3kphFx (just add the . to .com since i can't post links here)

[ornate grotto]

So it works, but doesn't 😉

[swift shuttle]

I just feel like, since its so close to working, there must be a workaround to prevent this crash, right ?

[swift shuttle]

Sorta :)

[ornate grotto]

I think someone did say they got it to work (use the search box), but it's not supported and it's flaky (so WILL crash at random points) even more so than U8 does anyway

[swift shuttle]

Yeah, I've tried running the docker container by @mental bolt , and it yeilds the same error in a different format:

Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=262162
Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=524338
Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=786514
Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=1048690
Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=1310866
Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=1573042
Signal 11 caught.
Malloc Size=262146 LargeMemoryPoolOffset=1835218
Signal 11 caught.
MallocCrash run out of memory allocating 262146 bytes, free 261920 bytes
Please increase LARGE_MEMORYPOOL_SIZE, exiting...

Any ideas ?

[ornate grotto]

Bottom line seems to suggest it's run out of memory. How much RAM does the server have?

[swift shuttle]

Should have ~24GiB

[ornate grotto]

Shoud have or does?

Nvm, reread what you linked

I have no ideas TBH. You're trying to run it on an unsupported platform and it's not working. Some people have problems getting it to work on supported platforms, so 🤷‍♂️

[swift shuttle]

Yeah, ik its not supported, but its so damn close! Server opens and all! Do you have any ideas for me to debug this ? Or where i should look?

[ornate grotto]

There is no debug available for unsupported platforms, you are on your own. Try a supported platform

Or reach out to sashiro and see if they can help you get it to work

[swift shuttle]

Will do! If you think of anything that may help me, be sure to tag me! Thanks for the help anyway!

[alpine cairn]

Hi, does anyone can help me with this error?

[ornate grotto]

Search is your friend

[alpine cairn]

no use-able solution at this time,

[ornate grotto]

That time out error gets posted at least every other day

[grim mica]

Country Roads, multi home....

[ornate grotto]

In a place called DisablePacketRouting?

[alpine cairn]

tried -multihome and -DisablePacketRouting each separated, both logs warned NetDriverListenFailure

[ornate grotto]

Network Quality?

Timeout Value?

[alpine cairn]

seems change up InitialConnectTimeout helped and need -DisablePacketRouting also

[grim mica]

multihome automatically applies disablepacketrouting, so if both were needed - that shoud not have been the problem. NetDriverListenFailure sounds like a port mapping problem.. either way glad its working

[copper forge]

how to fix this shit

[grim mica]

Fix what exactly?

[copper forge]

i think beucase of this error server doesnt start

it stops here later

and i cant connect to server

[grim mica]

Well the above error has nothing to do with that.. so sounds like a connectivity problem - need more info on your setup/environment

[copper forge]

Server-->Router--->PC

Minecraft connetion works fine, and putty ofc

nevermind

fixed it, server somehow didint register ufw rules

[bold linden]

the dedicated servers will be down for 24 hours?

[grim mica]

Whatch mean 'the'?

[bold linden]

Basically, i am getting this notification when playing that server will restart in 10 mins. I thought local dedicated server reboots are under our control

[ornate grotto]

It reloads every 24hrs

[bold linden]

Thank you, does it happen automatically and do we need to do anything manually after it reboots?

[ornate grotto]

It happens every 24h from when you started the server and it just restarts so you should be able to reconnect

[bold linden]

The server was started 3/4 days back but I guess i noticed it for the first time today and hence got bit confused. Thank you for the information

[grim mica]

Yep, its every 24h from when it loaded a map. It will just unload the map then reload it - doesnt actually close the DS process

[wicked knot]

That may also be related to the EOS servers, which helps with character inventory assignment, etc.

[bold linden]

Ok, though i didn't feel any difference as of now post reboot

[wicked knot]

EOS also helps with peer to peer connections, session ID, etc. It's what the game clients log into, as shown in the lower left of the main menu. For solo play, or even MP with others already in the world, it wont change anything. The hosts "session ID" will change on that server restart, so no new connections would be made on the old session ID

[unborn haven]

help

how to fix this bug it kicked me off and im playing with 2 of me

[grim mica]

I'm pretty sure you cant use session ids with dedicated, that is only for direct/peer-to-peer connections. Dedicated doesnt really do anything with EOS except for character enumeration (you get your proper actor/hotbar setups/inventory).

The restart is specific to dedicated servers and from the time when the map is loaded (or maybe server process started) a 24h counter is started and the server will unload/reload the map for garbage collection/cleanup, I feel like this is a holdover from the very early beta versions of DS and probably isnt needed anymore.. though probably still good to reload however to keep things in sync.

Where are you even seeing that...? Wasnt aware dedicated gave you an actual player list.
Either way, if you get disconnected, before you rejoin wait until the player counter goes back to 0

[unborn haven]

any one got any great ideas

its under multiplayer

[grim mica]

Multiplayer? Are you playing on a dedicated server?

[wicked knot]

Has that player recently crashed/DC'd? 30-ish ping isnt bad, but a recent rejoin could explain the redundant listing

MP overall isnt perfect. Pick your battles, and dont try to fix things not broken

[unborn haven]

no it kicked me out game and reloaded

yes im on my dediserver

[grim mica]

Interesting.. once you join the DS and goto Multiplayer Settings > Manage Players it will list who is connected. Anywho the point still stands - if you get disconnected wait until the 'Current Players' via Server Manager goes to 0 (or -1 of whomever else is connected) then rejoin. Otherwise you will get a new body and duplicate your pawn. Though I would think the original version of you will just timeout eventually and upon rejoining (after the timeout) you would get your original back.

[unborn haven]

but cant check the list

i got 2 charaters now

atuck on server

stuck

any commands to kill other players

/slay

[wicked knot]

Brute force. It should be where ever you were at the time of DC

Probably better to leave the server, go get a snack, and log back in in 5 min or so

[unborn haven]

i got me other charater stuck in cyber truck

game created new charater player in game

[stuck path]

Has anyone had any luck hosting a dedicated server via ATT fiber? I have all the ports 'forwarded' in the gateway but it doesnt work

[wicked knot]

Old character was still in mem from the unexpected drop. Log out, give time for the server to see you are no longer there, and log in again. How long does that take? Varies

[deep turret]

you are actively conneted to the game in your screenshot that's why you can see it

[deep turret]

depends on timeout setting, usually between 2 to 5 minutes

[inner cliff]

anyone know a potential reason as to why my server is losing tickrate? its making my trains go slower (120 to 100kmh)

[ornate grotto]

Trains slow or rubber banding is likely a server performance issue

[inner cliff]

its directly connected to tickrate

my server is losing tickrate

i know this cause i made tickrate 15 before, and train speed went down to 80-90

[ornate grotto]

Since U8 the server loads in the map on the fly as you move around it. If it's struggling to load data fast enough, then you it will impact the performance, especially on fast moving vehicles.

[inner cliff]

i changed the ini settings so that its loading all the map at once.

[ornate grotto]

Still could be lowering tick rate if it can't keep up

[inner cliff]

i have over 100gb ram, and its not using all cpu

[ornate grotto]

Is that a multi core machine as it mainly uses a single core, so it could show low CPU usage, but maxing out one core

Also, 400% WTF

[inner cliff]

i believe the engine only uses 2 cores max, so 400% is the 2 cores

[ornate grotto]

Still makes no sense, but it's using half of what it has, on a two core system likely means one core is at max

[inner cliff]

makes sense, looks like i may have to turn off the setting that loads the entire map at once lol

[rich sequoia]

Anyone know why it looks like there is multiple of the same player's connections at the same time?

[vestal bone]

yooo im trying to start a dedicated server, and although i follow all the steps, it just doesn't work. no errors or anything to tell me what's wrong

[deep turret]

it's cpu time percent probably
so 250% is like 2.5 physical thread saturated (equivalent)

[deep turret]

you don't want to
it will only be worse especially if you have ram room

[deep turret]

explain what is "does not work"

it is as precise as saying "I had a car crash"

[vestal bone]

well that’s the thing i’m just given much info

[inner cliff]

well how can i keep the tick rate at 30 then? only solution i see if turning off the ini setting

[vestal bone]

i set up the server files and shi

then set up the networking

[deep turret]

ask yourself why would it be "a solution" first
and re read my message

[inner cliff]

turning off the setting cuts in half cpu usage

i already turned it off and it fixed the tickrate so 🤷🏿‍♂️

[deep turret]

you said you turned it on after even troubleshooting

[inner cliff]

setting has been on entire time

cause hypertube cannons crash the server

w/o it

[deep turret]

if you have "no problem to tell me what's wrong" then you have no reason to even come here

[vestal bone]

well shi im just curious if anyone got the same error-less problem that i do damn

[deep turret]

yet you didn't describe your problem at all

[vestal bone]

i'd love to if i myself knew the problem

[deep turret]

again so you come here without having any concret problem

[vestal bone]

you must've not read what i just said about someone relating to my "error-less" problem

[deep turret]

if anyone relates to what you explained yet their problem is also to fail describing observations

[vestal bone]

okay okay i'll try my best to locate some kind of mishap or error then return later

[deep turret]

really it should not increase cpu load in a way it affects tick rate
if you are running it on a shared hosting service then it probably means the provider is under provision its service

(and so the parallel load is competing with the main loop)

[grim mica]

You need more than that.. there are background workers that will use whatever is available - I would add more if the hardware supports it

[deep turret]

looking at the 400% they maybe meant 4 thread ? (assuming it's 2 thread per core then)

otherwise showing 400% is misleading in the monitoring tool

[ornate grotto]

That's what confused me, you can't have more than 100%. Whether you are monitoring 1 core or 4, it's still 100%. "I gave 110%" just means you gave 100% and you usually only give ~90%. Sorry this kind of exaggerated maths is one of my pet peeves

[deep turret]

that's not how it actually works
we are talking about cpu time, 400% is actually more accurate

that's why almost all linux tools are using that way

physical thread are really parallel execution paths
when a physical thread is at 100% it can't just go faster because others have room
a 4 thread cpu actually run at 400% cpu time maximum
and a full spining thread will use 100% (that is it will be up 100% of the time in the cpu, without parallel execution)

so on one thread your statement is very true

but that's the tricky thing : it is Not one thread

[ornate grotto]

So you are monitoring 4x 100% thread usage, and representing it at 400%?

[deep turret]

yep

[ornate grotto]

But still, as a utilisation of 4 threads it's still 100% 😉

[deep turret]

not on the cpu

I know there is a lot of thing that can be misleading when talking about multi-threading, and it's also why it historically is a big source of security issues

[ornate grotto]

Kinda getting off topic here anyway

[deep turret]

4x 100% it is true
400% is the total amount of the cpu time quantity that can be allocated to some software to run
saying it's 100% of the cpu time is wrong
saying it's 100% of the total amount of cpu time allocation used is misleading

the best representation is 4x100%

people are used to thing about a single thread in their everyday life
like when you plan for your activities
you are doing one thing at once by yourself
that would be only one physical thread

when you are using parallel threads you are not squeezing more time inside the full time use
you are only using (also) an other time simultaneously

and yes most software are broken because most people including devs actually have a hard time fully understanding what that implies

(hello data racing condition and buzy deadlocks)

side note : having a software that runs on multiple machines, shows similar behaviors (and so problems in software implementations)
and it is also very common today to have multiple machine interact, and so interact poorly

TLDR: when a single thread of a 32thread cpu is used at 100% : the cpu as a whole is actually used 100% of the time already

the problem is when a software will burst at 4x 25% and it'll show 100%, it is still using only 25% of the cpu time, but 4 times at the same time
the real representation would be to add an overlap factor
one thread 100% would be 100%・1
4 thread 25% (burst) would be 100%・4
400% on a 4 thread cpu would be 400%・4 obviously
one thread 100% and an other 25% would be 125%・1.4 (7/5)
100% at 33% on one, 16% on each 2 threads, then 8% on each 4 threads, would be 100%・2.33.. (7/3)

[deep turret]

for putting things more simple, the full view is :
4 threads active time : x% *4 *4 / total cpu allocated time
3 threads active time : x% *3 *3 / total cpu allocated time
2 threads active time : x% *2 *2 / total cpu allocated time
1 thread active time : x% *1 *1 / total cpu allocated time
total: actual cpu use time% | total cpu allocated time (/400) | overlap factor

the 3 total values are interesting

[actual cpu use time %] IS NOT [total cpu allocated time %]/4

anyway I've been off topic for too long (I was going on as there was no on-going conversation)

[viscid sentinel]

Hey y'all. I'm sorry if this is a question that's been answered a bunch of times but I set up a server for myself and a friend and it worked but I was hosting the wrong save because the save was on my friends computer and now I'm trying to set up a new server from his side and it keeps saying server offline. Not sure why or how to fix. Any help would be appreciated

[deep turret]

"from his side" is it at his home ?
did you follow the router configuration (NAT port forwarding to server machine) ?
did you check his server machine's firewall port opening setting ?
did you try using -multihome=0.0.0.0 or -DisablePacketRouting server startup commandline settings ?
"was hosting the wrong save" you can always change/update / set an other save on the same server (it will simply reload the game with the new save)
your friend could simply give you the right save so you put it on the working server

you can always move saves from server to local game, to an other server etc..

[viscid sentinel]

So we're in the same house and on the same router. I used his IP address on the router firewall port opening and opened the ports on both computers.

[deep turret]

then you over done it
only his local ip address is needed (the one on the computer, not the router) as you are on the same local network (your two computers talk almost directly to each others)
only the server machine firewall needs port opening, so if I understand right it's on his computer

your setup makes me wonder if you are really using dedicated-server, are you really running the standalone software ? (wich is different from the game itself)

[viscid sentinel]

So I installed the dedicated server on steam on both computers then followed a yt guide which used steamcmd on both. Initially it worked on my computer and I was able to create a server but I removed it because I thought it needed to be on his. Now it won't let me create a server on either computer

I'm also very uneducated when it comes to command prompts and things like that so I apologize if I'm not giving enough information or not making sense

[deep turret]

steamcmd works side by side with steam (and not inside steam)
which means you could even use it without steam at all
this means that all the install settings are in the steamcmd install/update command
the steamcmd command is not used to launch the server

when using steamcmd you usually explicitly specify the install directory (with the force_dir argument), check where you installed the server

if you also installed with steam client (with graphic interface) it is possible you have installed it twice (at different locations)

every time you try to launch the server, double check it is not already running, otherwise it will either :

• change its connection settings to work along the already running one
• crash on start
  in both cases you will not successfully connect to it

[viscid sentinel]

How do I check if it's running?

[deep turret]

task manager usually

I dont remember the windows name though, I'm running it on linux

the linux name is UnrealServer-Linux-Shipping maybe it haves similar names

UnrealServer-Windows ?

also if you have a running console windows with server logs in it, it means it runs ( the console window will close when the server close)

[deep turret]

my advice is to give the server explicit connection settings at launch command
so it either start correctly or crash early

[viscid sentinel]

Okay I managed to get the server working on my computer but the save file is on his computer so how would I set the save file on the server I'm hosting

Oh my gosh I figured it out! Thank you so so much

[deep turret]

by sending you the save file itself, and you placing it in the server save file directory so the server sees it
or
you/he go to the server manager save tab, and click upload from there

[viscid sentinel]

Thank you!

[frank jasper]

I've encountered a mysterious issue trying to run the server. I mistakenly made a thread rather than posting here however please if anyone knows what I might be doing wrong here! Got all the details in the thread and all the steps I've taken to try resolve it with some others help thus far 🫶🏽

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1256549991972081665

[ornate grotto]

I think that the server knows what ports are being used internally so when you connect on 7777 it expects 15000 anbd 15777. You are telling the outside world that you are using those three, but the server is listening on different ports.

Try aligning the port forwarding rules for internal and external

[grim mica]

The Query Port (15777) is what the client connects on, and the game and beacon port are sent after that initial connection is made from the server to the client

[ornate grotto]

I knew I had it the wrong way around, but I'm not somewhere to check 😄

[ruby bridge]

Any reason in particular why I wouold get a message saying server will restart in 30 minutes?

[desert walrus]

Server restarts every 24hr

[ruby bridge]

Weird, I wonder why

[grim mica]

Its built in, cannot control/change it

Really amazes me that this is just now coming up alot lately.. it has done this since the first dedicated server builds

[deep turret]

people are hitting the 24h non-stop satisfactory playing threshold

[twilit haven]

Hi everyone. Im new to the whole dedicated server thing. I decided to finally do one for a friend and myself. I followed this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaD-ZiW9Fac. I did all my port setup. It runs. I claimed it and named it. I put 8 hours of play time to make sure it was working and stable. I give my friend the info and they cant find it. Turns out it wont come out of private. I tried the save on single player and put it on friends only saved put it back on the server and nothing still. Brank new windows install everythings up to date. I have tried reinstalling steamcmd and the server a few times. Im completely lost on what to do now. Does anyone happen to know a solution for this? I would be pretty greatfull for help.

[wicked knot]

When you join your server, you join as a client, so, no, it is not "private"
Ports forwarded in your router?

[twilit haven]

Oh then Im even more confused about that. Yes. Both on the PC and the router.

[wicked knot]

see if any of this helps?
#dedicated-servers message

[inner cliff]

My trains seem to be rubber banding a decent amount and losing speed, going from 120kmh to 80-100kmh, anything I can do, or am I at the limitation of dedicated server stability?

[desert walrus]

Wait for 1.0

[grim mica]

Could also get better CPU, seems vehicle speeds are affected by the tickrate, so if you are dropping below 30.. probably will have issues

[inner cliff]

on a 7950x

[grim mica]

Is it actually dedicated to only the server or also running the client?

[inner cliff]

only da server

my world is pretty massive lol, i mean i can see the dedi server code just not being up to date

[grim mica]

Well if the world is big.. nothing you can really do about it. I'm sure there are some optimizations with the new DS but I doubt it will be game changing in terms of build/performance limits.

How big is your save file and how long does it take to save? Mainly just curious to compare.

[inner cliff]

11MB, takes like 10-15s to save? im just basing that off of the time it lags every hour

saves every hour

[grim mica]

Oh hmm.. yeah thats about half the size of mine (21.3MB) that takes 72s currently to save on a 9900k, I was thinking of upgrading but was waiting for the Ryzen 9xxx series and then probably going to move my 7950x3d into the server machine. Might not though if your saves are so low - thats a significant improvement over my proc. Gotta get ready for 1.0!

[inner cliff]

Oh hell nah

[loud idol]

the development path video done some time back said no patches until 1.0, does that include server issues?

[ornate grotto]

No patches means no patches

[trail vale]

so i got 102s save time....

[viscid ore]

How does it take you guys so long to save wow

[grim mica]

I've built a few buildings ~600k entities (SCIM)

[copper forge]

how do i set "ultra" network quality in server

[desert walrus]

Why do you want to?

[ornate grotto]

In GameUserSettings.ini add mIntValues=(("FG.NetworkQuality", 3)) in section [/Script/FactoryGame.FGGameUserSettings]

[copper forge]

thanks

[tawny garden]

Holy shit trucks in a dedicated server just doesn’t work

[thin nova]

works for me. What's your problem?

[tawny garden]

My buddies just can’t record a truck path without disconnecting

But I guess the work around is to go slowly

[paper rock]

anyone had issues with server not starting back up after the daily restart?

[graceful ravine]

how can i make it save like every 1 minute, just to change the timing?

[ornate grotto]

The auto restart is 24hrs after you started the server and cannot be changed. You can set up the auto save interval in the ini files, but this doesn't affect the restart

[graceful ravine]

Waiit, what..?

[graceful ravine]

I just want the auto save interval to be changed,

[ornate grotto]

That is in the ini file, but 1m will cause the server to pause slightly every minute

15mins is the default

[graceful ravine]

Wheres the ini file?

[ornate grotto]

Have you read the wiki that is linked in this channel description?

[graceful ravine]

No, sorry

You mind just telling me where the ini file should be located?

[ornate grotto]

Depends in your install

[graceful ravine]

Hold on.

This looks about right.

[ornate grotto]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files

It's in the ServerSettings.ini

[graceful ravine]

I have no idea where that is

[ornate grotto]

Actually it is in the engine.ini

[graceful ravine]

Hm?

[ornate grotto]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files#Autosave_slots_and_Autosave_interval

[graceful ravine]

Thats in game.ini

[ornate grotto]

Like I said, if you READ the WIKI it's in there

[graceful ravine]

Hm.

"Enter in the command FG.AutosaveInterval xxx, replacing xxx with the number of seconds between saves."

That does not work.

I've tried it.

Whats a "Server tick rate"?

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGGameUserSettings]

mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", {VALUE}))```

[ornate grotto]

Possibly, Update 8 moved a lot of stuff between different ini files

[graceful ravine]

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGGameUserSettings]

mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", {60}))

That would save every 1 minute, right?

[ornate grotto]

If VALUE is seconds, sure

[graceful ravine]

Yeah it is.

[ornate grotto]

There you go, you answered your own question 🙂

[graceful ravine]

Well, I still have to see if it works.

[ornate grotto]

Just be aware that it will make your game unplayable at later levels. it can take upwards of 30 seconds to save in large games, so you'll have 30 seconds of lag every 60 seconds

[graceful ravine]

OKay.

Wait,

Isnt there a command like, "save and exit" I can type in the in-game consol?

That would make things easier.

[ornate grotto]

Nope, like most things in Update 8, it's broken

[graceful ravine]

Dang it.

[ornate grotto]

All console commands are broken in U8. If you type QUIT it won't quit, but when you restart the server, it will run the queued quit command and shut the server down immediatley

[graceful ravine]

Welp. I don't even know where the save files are stored.

[ornate grotto]

Again, it's in the WIKI

[graceful ravine]

Right..

Yeah, it does not work.

It won't save within 1 minute.

I got disconnected.

Well, I have to go now. Good night y'all.

[nova bramble]

is there some up to date recommendations list of thid party hosts? i'm looking for one that supports mods but my usual go-tos don't

[ornate grotto]

Mods seem to be very hit and miss on servers.

[frosty gale]

eeeeee

[high arch]

So, we (3 players) played a bit, had fun and after a few days we ran into a few issues like more deaths in tubes, belts not feeding properly and such. That lead us to load the game on a dedicated server.

Sadly, the experience is way worse! Just boarding a train and trying to reach the next factory takes forever. The train itself gets overtaken by its wagons. Walking is 3x faster.

Since we did all the settings as explained in the wiki, we're at a loss. Is it supposed to still be that broken?

[viscid ore]

sounds like an average late game dedicated server experience

at this point just hoping 1.0 fixes everything on dedi server lol

though at the end of the day I think the game will always be more stable single player than on any multiplayer

[high arch]

cool thanks, I was afraid that would be the answer! 🙈

[deep turret]

on what are you running it
of you run it alongside the game it will only be way worse

[high arch]

on a linux server over at nitrado.net
mainly because their hardware could deal with all my feed the beast modpacks so far xD

[thin nova]

did you contact their support?

[high arch]

yes

[native wraith]

ok got a question if anyone is willing to help here.

Got a dedicated server up and running in pterodactyl on unraid. I can connect to the server in the server manager and play around with the settings and even setup a world. however I can't join that world. Heres what i get in the client and what i get on the server side. This server is physical and its located in my house if that helps.

Let me know what else you may need

[ornate grotto]

It might be a firewall issue, you can talk on some of the ports but not others. There are three you need to open, 7777, 15000 & 15777 all on UDP

The other thing is are you running with the -DisablePacketRouting command line option?

[native wraith]

so the default world port. the 7777 should be redirected to 25550. the other 2 are stock.

and not that im aware of

[slender hearth]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1258820115487654032

[graceful ravine]

how do i make it so the server doesnt close after 300 seconds when im not inside?

[native wraith]

what are you hosting it on?

[graceful ravine]

My pc

The same I play on

But I cant run satisfactory 24/7

[native wraith]

go to server manager -> server settings and unclick the pause the game when no players are connected.

that will keep it running. then when you can't run it just close out the server or you can set it up on a schedule in windows

[graceful ravine]

"hasn't been used in more than 300.000000 seconds. Closing it."

[graceful ravine]

I already have that.

[graceful ravine]

Please help.

[sour parcel]

Long shot, but is your PC going into sleep mode?

[graceful ravine]

No.

Im using it.

All the time.

I have the dedicated server Consol open all the time.

The CMD thingy.

[ornate grotto]

According to Google, this isn't actually an issue, but make sure you are using the Multihome or DisablePacketRouting options at the command line

[graceful ravine]

"Multihome"? "DisablePacketRouting"?

[ornate grotto]

Look in the WIKI for command line options

[grim mica]

Why do you feel the server is closing? Seems like it's just closing connections which is not at all the same thing as it not being running

[graceful ravine]

@grim mica

[grim mica]

Right you linked part of the console output, does it say what its closing?

[graceful ravine]

Its closing the server.

Because when I try to rejoin, its starting the server again.

[grim mica]

What is the missing part of the rest of the console in your screenshot?
That is what mine says all the time, that is completely normal

[graceful ravine]

Exactly.

[grim mica]

Exactly what..?

[graceful ravine]

Thats the same what my consol is saying.

[grim mica]

Again -that is the Server Manager connection being closed from the client, has nothing to do with the world or it running/not running. What TheIlluminate said above is all you need to do to make sure the world runs with nobody present

[graceful ravine]

Well, if you are right. I can check the Server age, and when it says closing... then the age should still get up, right?

[grim mica]

Where are you seeing it saying 'starting' - when you open Server Manager?

[graceful ravine]

Want me to screenshare?

[grim mica]

Am playing 7d2d with a bud atm, screenshots will have to do for now - others can help as well that way

[graceful ravine]

Well,

So wait,

You're saying that you get the same "closing..." in your CMD, and your server is still running?

[ornate grotto]

Yes, I said that earlier

[grim mica]

Closing the connection, yes all the time

[graceful ravine]

Okay, so the server age should go up.

I will check that.

One more question,

[ornate grotto]

42! Answer to life, the universe and everything

[graceful ravine]

Is there any site I can use to max. my quallity of my buildings, like if I craft to many of one thingy so my power gets used to much.. you know?

[ornate grotto]

Satisfactory Calculator can help you optimise your builds, but I mainly use paper, pancil and math!

[graceful ravine]

Well, thtas one option.

Actually one more question,

How do I completly close the server.

[grim mica]

Ctrl+C on the console, but make sure it saved because it doesnt save when you do that

[graceful ravine]

Okay, thanks.

Appreciate your help.

Okay, well.

Im sorry to be here again,

But in the wiki: "FG.AutosaveInterval", it says paste it into the consol, but the command is not recognized.

[grim mica]

Check the new wiki.gg, the old one is incorrect

Must do autosaveinterval via ini files now

[graceful ravine]

Uhh, new wiki is located where?

Got it.

Set Auto Save Interval to 1 Hour
mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", 3600.000000))```

[grim mica]

Yep thats it, I updated that wiki 😉

[graceful ravine]

Hold up, I might be right back.

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGServerSubsystem]
mAutoPause=False
mAutoSaveOnDisconnect=True
mUsePacketRouting=True

Thats in my ServerSettings.ini fiel right now..

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGServerSubsystem]
mAutoPause=False
mAutoSaveOnDisconnect=True
mUsePacketRouting=True
mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", 3600.000000))

That would save every 30 mins, rihgt?

[grim mica]

Thats not in serversettings.ini

[graceful ravine]

It is..

[grim mica]

Goes in GameUserSettings at the top

[grim mica]

Right, and that is not the place to put that

[graceful ravine]

Help?

[graceful ravine]

That looks more right, hm?

[grim mica]

Correct, the mFloat and Int are already there, that is where you want to put that stuff

mFloat for autosave, the other options use mInt if you want to set those

[graceful ravine]

Thats correct?

[grim mica]

There is already a float,, 3rd line from the top

[graceful ravine]

Oh, it has to be there?

[grim mica]

Replace the line complete or replace it in the ()'s

Not sure what it will do with two entries, might work.. might not

[graceful ravine]

Put mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", 3600.000000)) between the ()?

mFloatValues=(
mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", 3600.000000)))

Im stupid.

[grim mica]

Right, see my screenshot for how it should look.. seems you moved around some ()'s

#dedicated-servers message

[graceful ravine]

Right, right.

One second.

[grim mica]

You can ignore the mInt if you dont want to set the netquality (I wouldnt unless you know what you are doing) and disable seasonal just turns off ficsmas

[graceful ravine]

mFloatValues=("GF.AutosaveInterval", 60)

That looks good?

[grim mica]

Its FG and add more surrounding ()'s

[graceful ravine]

FG*

[grim mica]

I would highly not recommend doing 60s, your game will stutter like crazy

[graceful ravine]

I'll do 120.

[grim mica]

I use 1h but I am likely going to increase it to 2h.. recommend 10 minutes as the absolute minimum

[graceful ravine]

TIll I tested the server age, while its "closed".

Thats good, hm?

[grim mica]

That should work, though quite low

[graceful ravine]

Okay, I'll restart my game.

[frosty gale]

Fails to bind port when the ports are open

[violet vessel]

can someone help me out

• running DS on windows
• in Satisfactory i am seeing the DS as 'Game Ongoing'
• click on join server

seconds later, unable to connect, turned IPV6 off on the DS side, server is running on my local network

[ornate grotto]

Have you checked the Windows Firewall? There's a command on the Wiki for opening allowed ports

[deep turret]

check nothing is using these ports already (apply to the server itself if it is already running)

[frosty gale]

Yep got I working

but now i'm having trouble getting the server working on external IP even tho all ports a forwarded

I don't know what ip to but the multihome at

[deep turret]

usually no ip, -multihome=0.0.0.0 (case matter, put it at start of commandline arguments)
unless you want to connect to ipv6

[frosty gale]

Still does not seem to work on external

[deep turret]

how are you testing ?

[frosty gale]

Trying my external ip with the port

[deep turret]

from internal network ?

[frosty gale]

and trying with my loopback IP

[frosty gale]

ye

[deep turret]

depending on the router you are using it may not be equivalent to outside access

[frosty gale]

On other servers it has worked like it

And another person trying to join externaly could not do so

[deep turret]

double check your forwarding rules though, specifically :
they are UDP and they are targeting your server machine

[frosty gale]

They are UDP and TCP

[deep turret]

you can remove tcp

[frosty gale]

Well I have it open cus I use it for other things when I do not run satisfactory server

Here is my .sh

[deep turret]

do not edit the builtin script directly

it will get updated as you update the dedicated server
you add the argument when you call the script simply

[frosty gale]

Well it should not be part of my current problem

[gloomy warren]

Hello peeps !
I'm a french dude, so my english is not very good 😅
I bought this game last day because I liked the concept of it. But I didn't managed to connect to my private server.
I tried to mount it on debian 12 (in command line) with a few methods (steamcmd and linuxgsm), windows server 2019 with GUI but the same thing happens : the server crash when I try to generate the map.
Could you help me please ? 🤕 (if possible, a french dude for better understanding lol but english is also ok 😉)

[grim mica]

Can you provide log of the crash?

[gloomy warren]

Yes I can ! Screenshot or txt ?

@grim mica Is the good file ?

[grim mica]

Yeah looks good - doesnt appear to be crashing

Is it that you cannot connect? Get a message with "timeout"?

[gloomy warren]

No message just change the state to offline and close automatically the Satisfactory server instance

[grim mica]

Well the log you provided does not indicate a crash, just that it is ready essentially

[gloomy warren]

then how could i join the server ?

if it aint crashin

[grim mica]

If it is crashing, this log doesnt indicate that - so not sure

But if you are saying the window disappears, maybe it is

There should be another folder, one level up from the 'Logs' folder 'Crashes' that will contain a 'CrashContext-xml' file

Obviously you can check the date/time as well for each crash in that folder will create new one

[grim mica]

Ahh, this is a VM? Using which hypervisor?
<Misc.CPUVendor>GenuineIntel</Misc.CPUVendor>
<Misc.CPUBrand>Common KVM processor</Misc.CPUBrand>

[gloomy warren]

Yes, Proxmox ve

[grim mica]

Must change CPU type to 'host' in the hypervisor

#dedicated-servers message

[gloomy warren]

Ok I'm trying this !
i'll get back to you when i'm done ✌️

I verified the processor name change, but doesn't work either 🤕

Pretty much same things

I verified the minimal conf and it's good !
8 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1230 v5 @ 3.40GHz (1 Socket)
24Go of RAM in DDR4 2133 ECC
And SSD disks

[grim mica]

Are you trying to create a new map or load an existing save?

It is at least not throwing that callstack for the physics engine that we always see with proxmox VMs not set to host, but I dont think ive seen the current crash before

Specs above should be good, I do see that the VM has only 8GB of that 24, but should be enough to start a new world at least

[gloomy warren]

I tried both but not work. I'm trying to look if the problem is in Proxmox

[grim mica]

Somewhat similiar.. though no resolution
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/65c12d691545556f6c1c651a

I would try to close the server process, move this (C:\Users\ <user> \AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames) folder somewhere else (dont delete as it contains save files), and re-launch the server, it will regenerate the settings, have you set a new password and session/instance name. That will at least rule out the above issue

[deep turret]

did you add init for disabling server streaming ?

[vale badger]

Have they mentioned if theres going to be any major changes to the dedicated server systems for 1.0?
I'm going to start setting it up soon using Early Access to benchmark, but I just wanted to check first

[gloomy warren]

After lots of tests and with your help, It's work finally !!!

I've fix it with #dedicated-servers message and #dedicated-servers message. It's work with Windows server 2019 and with debian 12

Thank you very much @grim mica !

[wicked knot]

here's what they have told us so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8piXNQwcUw

[tacit tundra]

I've been trying to get a dedicated server back up and running using the steam dedicated server tool; nothing I do seems to be working. I'm able to launch the server and join in game but the ping is 0 and no one else can join. My ports are all set, firewall is good, any ideas?

^same version as well

[rich sequoia]

Any more knowledgable people here know what caused the constant lag spikes on dedicated servers from U7 to U8 when it was fine in U7

[graceful ravine]

Is there a way, I can make all my converorys mk.5 or any mk, with a external website?

[desert walrus]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/

[graceful ravine]

Well I am already on that site, but is there a way I can like mark all my conveyors and upgrade then, not like clicking each one of them?=

[ornate grotto]

I think U8 included the updated engine, but instead of fixing bugs after U8 dropped, they decided to announce they were focusing on 1.0. DS have been broken, but at least we have a date for 1.0

[ornate grotto]

Check local server and internet firewalls, 7777, 15000 and 15777 UDP. Also look at the -DisablePacketRouting OR -multihome command line options in the wiki

[graceful ravine]

Cuz right now, I can only click each one of my convs. andn ot like mark all of them, yk?

[upbeat niche]

that sounds promising, could you please tell me what you did to get it working?

[twilit mango]

@ornate grotto I'm not really able to describe it rn but, I'll respond later. If I don't answer in 12 hours, tag me again.

[upbeat niche]

alright, thanks

[ornate grotto]

Did you tag the wrong person ??

[twilit mango]

Yes, I'm sorry

[latent portal]

holy, how do i load my save on the dedicated server that i just installed?

[ornate grotto]

Read the Wiki, there's a topic just for that!

[rocky nacelle]

can someone help me - ive setup a dedicated server and my friend cant join it for some reason - I can - ports are open etc

[dusty vortex]

Check ya ports, check firewalls (server and router), check you shared your internet IP with friends and not you internal local ip,
Check your ISP does not connect you behind a CGNAT, then try one of these command line arguments

#dedicated-servers message

This a very common problem asked multiple times a day it seems, scroll up and you should find a wealth of infos and tips. 👍

[rocky nacelle]

I found this answer on reddit and it WORKED. Thanks for getting back to me @dusty vortex . Already sorted but thank you so much for posting it!!!!!!

Will there be a work around in 1.0?

[whole dome]

they are simplifying the ports required so fingers crossed

[grim mica]

All port routing will happen internally on the new DS, will exclusively use TCP+UDP 7777 with 1.0

[umbral haven]

Hello, I am making a dedicated server and I just want to check,
I must allow all the 3 ports (7777, 15000, 15777) on the inbound rules as UDP of the firewall on the hosting machine, and then port forward all 3 on my router aswell?

[ornate grotto]

[umbral haven]

[paper rock]

any other configs i need to change for getting the server to boot back up automatically after the daily restart? Running on linux, i have restart=on-failure, which seems to be working. if i kill the process for example, it will automatically restart. But after the standard daily restart the server does not come back up automatically

[grim mica]

The 24h auto-restart doesnt kill the server process, logs indicate anything not happening properly? What is the state* of the server after the 24h period?

[paper rock]

thanks, I got it.. was one of my errors with a cronjob. didnt account for utc

[grim mica]

Right-o

[stuck path]

heya my dedicated server (locally hosted) is suddenly crashing on autosave

spent about an hour and 12ish attempts including loading earlier saves, but it crashes as soon as it tries to autosave

[grim mica]

Log or CrashContext xml? Can't help much without specific errors or data

[stuck path]

digging though them but theres nothing i can determine from it

can I DM you the txt or xml?

[stuck path]

tried loading save offline and autosave also crashing. EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION but the address changes every time

[grim mica]

Sure, DM them to me

[stuck path]

have sorted it out... its a pipe on my blueprint that wont delete when i clear it

as soon as i disassemble that pipe, game crashes on next save

its a pipe support specifically that i cannot delte, and if i connect any pipes to it it corrupts

[deep turret]

autosave offline ? you mean on the local game directly ? did you try manual save ?

[stuck path]

I loaded the save on my local client, and it was still causing the crashes. I ended up loading the save into SCIM and deleting the offending pipe support and things are working again

[floral kestrel]

Can anyone recommend a server hosting provider that does a good job with this game?

[ornate grotto]

You need someone local to you to reduce lag, however the game isn't exactly stable at the moment so most will have issues (not their fault)

[haughty zodiac]

are there any hardware recommendations for final yet?

[ornate grotto]

Nothing has been announced outside what is in #announcements

[jolly token]

Is there any way to enable flight on a dedicated server thats hosted 3rd party?

[wicked knot]

!wikisearch ags @jolly token

[rancid ether]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=ags

[jolly token]

There was no Flight mode in advanced game settings when I setup the server

[wicked knot]

that one is by each client

Once enabled, individual settings can be togged on and off from the Esc menu in-game. In multiplayer, all players have access to the settings, not only the host. Select settings affect only the player who enables them (such as Flight), while others affect all players (such as No Unlock Cost).

[grim mica]

^ Correct answer

[jolly token]

Yeah but what I'm saying is when I set the server up, there was NO option for "Advanced Options" I see that option when I start a SINGLE PLAYER server, but when I start a new world on the dedicated server, theres no advanced options

[grim mica]

Ah, must be enabled and then the save uploaded

No way to turn on AGS natively on DS afaik

If you already made a new world, just save it with AGS on your client, then go back to main menu andgo into the Manage Saves > Upload Save and then you can load the save onto the server and play from there with AGS on

You can also do the same with an existing world, enable AGS on it, save it and then upload it

[jolly token]

ya'll just saved me from pulling my hair out

[ornate grotto]

Be aware that because the server loads each area of the map as you explore it, some people have mentioned performance issues with flight mode on as you end up loading large chunks of the map on the fly. More so if multiple people are in different area's of the map

[fading sail]

When connecting to a dedicated server, I often get a grey screen and after a while it fails with this error:
It has become quite annoying since it can take up to an hour or more for me to be able to play.
Is this just the server doing satis server things or what?
Thanks for any help in advance 🙂

[ornate grotto]

As per the wiki, try adding either the DisablePacketRouting or Multihome options to the server start up options

[toxic inlet]

Good morning, I am able to connect to my server, changes settings and all. But when I try to join the game I get:
invalid authentication token

[toxic inlet]

welp... no one seems to have a fix. Guess im gonna play a much more relaxing game.. Rust

[umbral haven]

Ayo whenever one of my friends try to join the dedicated server it does not load but only shows server name pending and this server appears to be offline even though everyone else can connect with no problem, does anyone know the problem?

[ornate grotto]

There are no support staff in here, we're people like you that run our own servers so usually have jobs and the like. Not getting an answer in 30 mins and then leaving isn't exactly fair.

Having said that, I would expect that kind of error if you entered your password wrong

[ornate grotto]

If everyone else can connect, and that one friend is entering the correct information the same as everyone else, then it may be something to do with their internet connection.

[umbral haven]

yeah they restarted their router and it worked

[ornate grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/itcrowd-reboot-gif-4770974

[toxic inlet]

It was a joke lol

And cant be a password issue because im able to connect to the server. Can changes settings and all. But doesn't allow me to join the game/server

[ornate grotto]

Has your password got any non-standard characters in it?

[toxic inlet]

yes

but it asks for the password when you connect to the server

[ornate grotto]

When you say you can connect to the server, I'm assuming the server manager, but not connect to the game?

[toxic inlet]

so the password is working

yes

[ornate grotto]

Are all the ports open correctly?

[toxic inlet]

i have both game and query opened

[ornate grotto]

all three ports?

[toxic inlet]

the beacon needs to be opened?

[ornate grotto]

it needs all three ports

[toxic inlet]

hmm

[toxic inlet]

Some beach… that was it!

Thank you!

[thin nova]

if i save (and overwrite) an existing blueprint, it will not update. I guess this is a dedicated server issue?

[umbral haven]

Bruh one dude died in the server and is now unable to connect

[dusty vortex]

Give it 30seoncds

Your brief pic of an error looked like a 30second timeout.

[umbral haven]

Yeah 30 second timeout

We just wait?

[dusty vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/there-are-four-lights-picard-fuck-your-bullshit-star-trek-kingdom-of-bullshit-gif-14936675848561176051

[umbral haven]

It worked

[mortal birch]

Hey

Maybe this has already been discussed but I couldn't find it

I have a DS over SteamCMD on a Windows 11 mini PC
and my Problem is this <Picture>
I have opened the required ports

How do I get my DS to be “public”. so that my friends can play on my server?

I'm sorry, my English is bad, use Google Translate

[umbral haven]

just wait

[ornate grotto]

There is no such thing as PUBLIC in dedicated servers, Multiplayer (Client to Client) is different to Dedicated Servers. To allow them to connect they need your internet IP address and connect via Server Manager

You'll need to forward the THREE required ports from your internet router to the server hosting the game

[mortal birch]

i have

[ornate grotto]

Then they need to enter your public IP address in server manager on their machines

[mortal birch]

i have this
my friends i see this

[ornate grotto]

Then providing you have set up the networking and firewall (both on your router and server machine) they should be able to connect

[dusty vortex]

(Assuming your ISP does not stick you behind a CGNAT.)

#dedicated-servers message

[mortal birch]

my router

[ornate grotto]

Where are 15000 and 15777 UDP?

[dusty vortex]

#dedicated-servers message

👆👆👆

[mortal birch]

ok i have add this

[dusty vortex]

Did you also add multihome or disable packet routing options at the CMD line arguments when launching the server?

#dedicated-servers message

[mortal birch]

Do I do this in the server cmd or steamcmd?

[dusty vortex]

When launching the server.

You place the arguments after the .exe in the command line.

Most commonly placed in a .bat file for launching the server.

Called at the same time as launching the server, not after it's launched.

[mortal birch]

FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended
-multihome

one way or another?

[mortal birch]

and 0.0.0.0 change to my ip?

[dusty vortex]

Just screen shot my .bat for launching server to avoid confusion

0.0.0.0 in networking land means to assign to any available IP

[mortal birch]

ok

[dusty vortex]

You can specify a single IP... And the server will only listen one that 1 IP.

With 0.0.0.0, it will listen on any IP your machine has. (And if you multiple network ports connected, it will listen across them all with whatever IP they have assigned)

[mortal birch]

i have router and minipc/server restarted

[dusty vortex]

Give the server a few mins to load then try again.

[mortal birch]

same problem

on server i see this

[mortal birch]

anyone a tipp for how i can fix it?

[ornate grotto]

Did you put the multihome option on your command line?

[ornate grotto]

Try replacing it with -DisablePacketRouting. Sometimes one works when the other doesn't

[mortal birch]

same problem

[ornate grotto]

Is that you connecting to the server locally?

[mortal birch]

per IP

[ornate grotto]

You are using the local IP of the server when on the same network?

[mortal birch]

the server is a mini PC with Dedicated-server over SteamCMD
for 3 friends and me

i connecting per IP not local
but the mini pc is on same network

[ornate grotto]

You should be using the local IP

[mortal birch]

and my friends to?

[ornate grotto]

No

They connect via the External IP

[mortal birch]

and why i not?

[ornate grotto]

TLDR: Because that's how internet routers work

[mortal birch]

what is TLDR?

[ornate grotto]

Too

Long

Didn't

Read

[mortal birch]

ok

my friends and me try is tomorrow

[dusty vortex]

Cheap ass routers provided by ISPs often lack a feature called 'NAT hairpin/loopback'
It allows for devices inside the network use the public IP (without actually going over the internet).

Thus you need to use your internal local ip when connecting in the same network.

If you have some fancy router you purchased your self then you can check to see if it supports this feature just so you could also use your internet IP.

Tbh just easier and quicker to use internal/local IP of server for you while friends use your public IP.

[grim mica]

Long winded answer... any address that is like 192.168.x.x is a 'local' unroutable IP (two other network spaces are 10.x.x.x and 172.16-31.x.x) anything that ISNT the aforementioned ranges is considered routable on the internet. Trying to access another 'private' network without the proper routing in place (like a VPN tunnel or similiar) provides no path for the remote party to connect to you. So if you are local, you can connect on the LAN address and anyone outside your network must pass through the router (where you do port forwarding) to reach the server behind the router. Your router takes your external IP and makes many hosts behind it capable of using the internet through something called NAT which create connections on your internal computers behalf and acts as a middle-man for accessing the internet. Without this we would have run out of IP addresses already as there are only ~4 billion usable addresses.

Dedicated servers are different from normal multiplayer in that normal multiplayer is peer-to-peer with session tokens you can join and some 'magic' happens in the background to make that connection occur. Dedicated requires the 3 ports (7777, 15000, 15777 UDP by default) to be forwarded to make the connection work. There isnt any session/public/private/etc with dedicated, its either on or off and thats it and connections occur via the IP instead of sessions.

[ornate grotto]

Like I said, TLDR 🤣

[grim mica]

Yeeeep.. just trying to lightly educate lol

I think ive explained routing and subnets to my wife a few times over the years, each time about half way through when I get to ports and protocols I feel like I am speaking another language.. oh well

[ornate grotto]

When her eyes glaze over... Yeah mine's done that too

[mortal birch]

i connect with my PC per lokal IP
and my friends try tomorro per Public IP

[grim mica]

Yep, perfect!

[ornate grotto]

What we're actually doing is walking it through in our heads, and usually find the answer when it's broken, it just looks better talking out loud when there's someone there, than out loud to yourself 😜

[mortal birch]

the mini pc (server) has fixed IPV4
right?

[grim mica]

That depends on your internal configuration, commonly you will have DHCP on your network that will get an IP from the router. The IP could change at some point, but usually it will just refresh the address lease and use the same one again. Unless you went in and set the address manually, default is 'automatic' (DHCP).

[mortal birch]

ok, i dont change it

[mortal birch]

now i cant join on my DS

but over VNC or Teamviewer i can see the server is running

[grim mica]

Is multihome set as a startup parameter?

[mortal birch]

after server restart i can join, but my friend not

[mortal birch]

first i try
FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -multihome=0.0.0.0
then this
FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -DisablePacketRouting

[grim mica]

The upper one is fine, multihome disables packet routing anyway - if you arent using IPv6 at all (probably not) use the upper one

If external cannot join, probably an issue with the port forward

[mortal birch]

Do you have to store the ports in asetting.ini?

[ornate grotto]

Not if you are using the defaults

If you want to change from the defaults, use the command line parameters from the Wiki - https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Command_line_options

If you do change from the defaults, remember to update your firewall and port forwarding rules

[mortal birch]

firewall is ok.
ports in router ok

what else could you try?

When my friends join a “normal game” via Game ID, everything works.

but it should work on my dedicated server

[ornate grotto]

Multiplayer works enritely differently and won't have an impact on the server

[grim mica]

Was helping someone last week and they had only created NAT or ACL (one was missing, cant remember which) - did you fully do the port forward on the router side?

[keen spear]

i need help with my dedicated server when my friend tries the join my server it appears to be offline. Am I giving him the wrong ip address

[wicked knot]

Go to google, and type in my ip That is the one the outside world needs

[keen spear]

i did that and gave him my ip but it still appears offline

[wicked knot]

and the router is configured to let all three UDP port ranges thru?

[keen spear]

do i need to port forward with my router

thx i got it to work

[vale badger]

So other than port forwarding, what else do I need to do after installing the dedicated server via steam? It seems all the guides I can find, including the wiki, goes through a billion steps that I think using the steam installer bypasses? I'm not exactly sure where the window that pops up when I hit play in steam for it, comes into play in the guide on the wiki.

All the guides I can find use SteamCMD instead of the steam launcher

[ornate grotto]

That's because it's not recommended to run the server and client on the same hardware

The server struggles to run on it's own, but you are running two versions on the same machine

[vale badger]

This is on a dedicated server PC, nothing else is running on it

[ornate grotto]

Then steamcmd means you don't need to log into steam on that machine.

[vale badger]

Once you've logged in and installed it, I assume you don't need to be logged in to run it. At the very least steam can be in offline mode

[ornate grotto]

I don't know 100%, but likely you'll need to be signed in, or like you say in offline mode. You still need to set up port forwarding and firewall rules, and you may still need to adjust the command line options

It's just easier for a server machine not to have to log into Steam to run it at all

[vale badger]

Port forwarding firewall rules are easy, no problem there.
Basically, I'm just having a hard time figuring out at what point in the wiki guide do I need to start referring to, at the point I am now.

[ornate grotto]

The Wiki hasn't been updated in a while, so take what it says with a pinch of salt

[vale badger]

Ah, gotcha. Yeah I know a lot of stuff changed about 3 months ago

According to that update video at least

[ornate grotto]

The only other option you may need, if you run IPv4 and IPv6 on the machine, is -DisablePacketRouting or -multihome

[vale badger]

So just run that on the command prompt window that comes up when I launch the server?

Sorry I can't do it right at the moment, so I'll check back in with you guys if I run into any problems in the near future.
Thanks for the help so far though ❤️

Oh but I had one more question. Is it possible to take a really hefty save that someone else might be able to share, and slap it on my server so I can give it a decent late game stress test?

[ornate grotto]

As you are running through Steam GUI, you'll probably need to modify it there. Right click on the app in the Library and go to Properties. In the general tab, add -DisablePacketRouting in the Launch Options section.

The image is for a different game, but same concept

[mortal birch]

yes, i have 1500, 15777, 7777

my friends become "time out"

ok we have es now

after 3 server restarts, he can join

[ornate grotto]

That's usually a sign that you aren't using one of the DisabledPacketRouting or Multihome command line options (or their internet is an issue)

[mortal birch]

SteamCMD

i use in a Start-Server.bat
"FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended -multihome=0.0.0.0"

I have enabled the following ports
UDP: 15777, 15000, 7777

After restarting the server a few times everything works

[ornate grotto]

7777, 15000 and 15777. Not sure if the one above was a typo 🙂

[deep turret]

you mean 7777 right ?

[mortal birch]

yes, sorry

[ornate grotto]

If you are on the Beta 1.0 update, then this is NOT the place to talk about it

[karmic reef]

can you tell me which channel

[ornate grotto]

As I assume it's under NDA, they would have given you a way to provide feedback.

[karmic reef]

ok thank you

[ornate grotto]

Not a public facing channel

[misty dune]

downloading the dedicated server on steam itself, where can i find the ip address for the server

also can i move an existing save file to a dedicated server

[ornate grotto]

It's the same IP as the server you are installing it on

[ornate grotto]

Yes, it's in the Wiki

[misty dune]

so just my own ip?

[ornate grotto]

It's not recommended to run the server on the same machine as the client due to performance issues, but if you are, then yes

[random pebble]

hello. Any additonal info on running the Dedicated Server through LinuxGSM? It seems that I installed the server correctly since it looks like it started and no errors were thrown, but when I want to connect the server is not found and apperas offline for the IP address that is has. I have some other servers on same PC also running through LinuxGSM so I think that the IP I'm trying to connect to is correct.

Do I need to configure anything else? the Info on linuxGSM page is very vague

[ornate grotto]

Make sure you are running the -DisabledPacketRouting or -multihome command line options as it's the usual culprit for not being able to connect

[random pebble]

this command line option is when I start the local game or dedicated server?

[winged cloak]

Hi there.. I have dedicated servers (self hosted) for other games, but I want to set one up for Satisfactory (windows).. is there a definitive set of instructions for this?

[random pebble]

as I'm looking at configuration "multihome" appeares to be set

[ornate grotto]

Try switching it to DisablePacketRouting, that sometimes works. Multihome should include DPR, but sometimes changing works

[ornate grotto]

The Wiki in the channel description is the official guide, but whilst it has some steps, it's a bit vague in other bits