spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:44 PM

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germany.
but its an eu law

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:45 PM

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EU law only says you need to protect your network. it doesn't say anything about indirect binding or userspace network address translations to localhost

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:45 PM

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also its not windows, obviously

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:47 PM

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your multihome is set to 0.0.0.0 so you enabled unreal's internal packet router for when you are bound to more than one address or NIC

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🤦‍♀️

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just an idiosyncracy of the unreal network implementation. it offers no additional security

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:48 PM

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it doesnt matter to what you set you multihome, it alwas says 0.0.0.0

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:48 PM

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false. see my logfile

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:48 PM

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let me prove it

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:48 PM

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my logfile already does. its -multihome is set to a single IPv4

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:49 PM

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so we are talking about that?

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uh, with a space after port, obviously

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:50 PM

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yes, provided it's set before -log -unattended

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:50 PM

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you dont set it on linux

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because its implicit anyway

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 12:50 PM

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almost every existing software DO NOT reroute to localhost Fortunately
it is a backdoor network access security issue

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:51 PM

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deep turret almost every existing software DO NOT reroute to localhost Fortunately it is a b...

yeah really. the fact that it reroutes packets to localhost is scary since it just punches a hole through your firewall

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 12:51 PM

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if it doesnt have very secure filtering on top of that behavior, it could literally get sued for creating a hole in any machine running it

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and UE is not developped by heavy security network devs, because it is not its job, so it should stay at its place : binding on what it wants and keep it like that

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:53 PM

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so, stuffs running there
clearly 10.0.0.24

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thats also the ip of it

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welcome 0.0.0.0

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because it always goes for it

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and then 127.0.0.1

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it never binds to the external ip

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and im used to that behavior from literally every software

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 12:54 PM

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you are making a stretch here

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:54 PM

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unreal uses arg=value, not spaces

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type -multihome=ip, not -multihome ip

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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clear lagoon unreal uses `arg=value`, not spaces

unreal uses both. if not, the port wouldnt work

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but it indeed uses 8888, because 7777, the defaulkt is blocked

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but it works

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 12:55 PM

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lot of software do bind to 0.0.0.0 then filter request when told to only respond for some address
lot of software DO NOT REROUTE TO LOCALHOST

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and again, when talking about UE5 multi-instance, it not binding literally to the address passed as argument is a BUG

frosty gale Jun 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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So in my dedicated server, if I've lost hard drives in my inventory due to crashes, I'm basically screwed and can't get all the alternate recipes right?

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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there are some additionals

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also you could edit the save file and give you all alts

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 12:56 PM

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frosty gale So in my dedicated server, if I've lost hard drives in my inventory due to crash...

you can recover from crate or killing your old you

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if you cant find it you may use fiscit calculator interactive map to find it

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and even restore it

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:57 PM

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no, also in u7 i was able to eternally remove hardrives

frosty gale Jun 23, 2023, 12:57 PM

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My last crash wouldn't let me

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Lost to the ether

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:58 PM

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spare orbit unreal uses both. if not, the port wouldnt work

/home/sparxy/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh -ServerQueryPort=15778 -BeaconPort=15001 -Port=7778 -multihome=127.0.0.1 -log -unattended | grep socket -i
[2023.06.23-12.56.42:744][  0]LogNet: Created socket for bind address: 127.0.0.1:7778

and without equals sign:

/home/sparxy/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh -ServerQueryPort=15778 -BeaconPort=15001 -Port=7778 -multihome 127.0.0.1 -log -unattended | grep socket -i
[2023.06.23-12.56.53:704][  0]LogNet: Created socket for bind address: 0.0.0.0:7778

thank you, please use equals sign and try again

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:58 PM

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by simple spamming escape in the mam after i checked the options. it closed and never opened the screen again.
got none of the recipes and the drive was gone

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 12:58 PM

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clear lagoon ``` /home/sparxy/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh -ServerQueryPort=1...

Fortunately Thank you

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❤️

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I was getting scared

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ngl

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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clear lagoon ``` /home/sparxy/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh -ServerQueryPort=1...

so it does take the port but not the ip you say?

chrome pumice Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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The drive is in your inventory you have to use it again and wait the 10 minutes

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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I'm not the developer. I am merely posting my observations

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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also standard convention of shell scripts that a space equals a =

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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you see my command and the resulting output

chrome pumice Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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I do that trick to get different options.

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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spare orbit also standard convention of shell scripts that a space equals a =

nope, any script behave as they want to

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 12:59 PM

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it clearly does not process multihome correctly with a space

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that is epic's fault, not mine

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 1:01 PM

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clear lagoon it clearly does not process multihome correctly with a space

but you run a shell script with options, they should behave after shell scripts convention, nothing you should be able to change

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also it still uses the port normally, that should be especially impossible to fuck it up only in specific cases

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:02 PM

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unrealengine is a native binary. it's not a shell parser. it parses options however the fuck it wants

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it literally gets argv array space separated

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or whatever C does in its main function

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 1:03 PM

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impossible, because -Port 8888 works and it uses 8888

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thats what i mean

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it cant be that it only works some time

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:03 PM

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you're being pedantic. they messed up their commandline switch parsing

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are you really gonna make me sign up for the unrealengine source code so I can tell you on which line the multihome parsing is fucked?

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 1:04 PM

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but you dont write a syntax for every option manually in the parser?

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:04 PM

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I have empirically proven that it does not correctly parse multihome

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 1:04 PM

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so all options should behave the same

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:05 PM

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again, I do not work for epic, command line switch parsing is not my responsibility

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I merely showed you that it functions as if you didn't provide multihome when you provide it with a space

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the how or the why are not really in scope here since we were talking about networking

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 1:05 PM

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but the wiki even says with a space :why:

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:05 PM

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wiki page was made on ue4

sharp bison Jun 23, 2023, 1:06 PM

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and in most cases here it'll still solve the ipv6 problem with a space because defaulting to 0.0.0.0 also works

spare orbit Jun 23, 2023, 1:06 PM

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ah, the new wiki uses = now

sharp bison Jun 23, 2023, 1:06 PM

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It's nonstandard arg parsing since it doesn't take double dashes for words

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just use getopt 😩

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:09 PM

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sharp bison just use getopt 😩

unreal also targets windows so I don't think it cares much about POSIX XD

sharp bison Jun 23, 2023, 1:09 PM

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More's the pity

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:33 PM

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clear lagoon or whatever C does in its main function

it uses (unsigned int argc,char **argv), so an argument count and a list of string

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it passes the space seperated arguments as standalone strings and reference them into argv list

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:35 PM

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so basically what I said with a count included to determine array length 😛

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:35 PM

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yep, I was only confirming with how it is directly

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so btw you even better know it

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(like the detail : it doesnt even understand spaces between arguments)

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:37 PM

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I mean I don't code native apps but I am a software developer so 😛 don't feel bad ❤️

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:37 PM

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what do you mean feeling bad ?

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:37 PM

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oh just re: 'so btw you even better know it'

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:38 PM

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I just like to give it how it is, so people can better grasp the way the may have skipped or something, so there is no loss

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even if agreeing

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:39 PM

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so yeah. did I mention networking is hard? XD

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:39 PM

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depends what

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it's mostly because people lack generalization examples

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and it's a lot to visualize

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and documentations are often too evasive

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for beginners at least

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like "local" "internal"/"external" that are mostly context depend and dont mean the same thing depending on what we are focusing on (in the same context)

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but there are also lot of shotcut in the academdy part of it, which does not help at all

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some fixed things apparently, then become flexible suddenly, and people get lost

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when it was dynamic from the start

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:43 PM

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so a vocabulary issue perhaps

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or meanings changing over time as technologies develop

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:44 PM

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the network as it is as been made off die and retry and ducktaping

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it's not really working generally speaking

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so people get closer to something fundamentally functional, but with sometimes convoluted and/or indirect ways, until something less more robust is standardized for this

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so lot of thing dynamic was made fixed in the past, and then it would not work anymore as things develops

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but academy still show it as "fixed but changing often"

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and it often fails

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I believe lot of people genuinly dont get networking only because it is very badly understood by most of people teaching it

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for instance
I'll give you a fundamental hint : a communication connection, is not a globally defined thing
network address IS local and through gateways by NATURE
trying to forbid people to do NATing and the like is only arrogance

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I.E : communication parties don't have to and naturally wouldnt know about the other part local final address

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:51 PM

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well yes, every node on the network decides how it handles packets however it wants

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:51 PM

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unless they need to be specifically targeted (link in forwarding for ipv4)

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:53 PM

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as far as basic Internet Protocol is aware, the link terminates at the edge NAT device. that doesn't mean that NAT is inherently bad, it's just harder to set up for the owner of the NAT device and keep everything working downstream

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:53 PM

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so I'll drop it here : in a natural network, all parties dont have to get a globally understood address, unless they need to get contacted by anyone on the network)

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i.e dynamic addressing can take place as a party ask for connection to a globally understood address

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a bit like for anycast addresses/multicast address

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like it does with arp table in switch

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:57 PM

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arp table is to connect layer 2 and 3 of the OSI model. once you go to layer 2 you're no longer talking internet protocol

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ethernet frames and hw addresses

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:57 PM

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clear lagoon as far as basic Internet Protocol is aware, the link terminates at the edge NAT ...

I'm mostly spitting onto making a higher layer protocol that ["needs"] to be aware of the ip address
it can even be a security issue as it is not reliable

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if it stay into ip : then no problem

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:58 PM

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clear lagoon arp table is to connect layer 2 and 3 of the OSI model. once you go to layer 2 y...

layer 2 osi is already a network, I'm happy to see latest scientific papers start to rely less on osi layer model

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 1:59 PM

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it is already a network yes, but it's not necessarily an internet protocol network

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 1:59 PM

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ofcourse

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to be even more transparent : osi layers are pratically a bit shifted

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that's why arp is considered layer 2.5

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as I said, things that were taught as fixed, are not that clear in the end

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:02 PM

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yes, because with dynamic routing/switching your switches need to know where the next hop is for a certain IP destination, which is usually cached in ARP. layer glue if you will 😛

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:03 PM

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Idk if you know, but btw the same mechanism for ipv6 as been standardized as part of ip layer directly, to make it a bit more clear

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and so more robust

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:03 PM

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ye, neighbor discovery

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:03 PM

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exactly

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(sorry it's always a bit complicated to know where people are on the learning curve)

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:04 PM

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sorry, I have no professional experience in networking so I just know bits and bobs I happen to catch here and there XD

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:05 PM

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you are very fine, you did your research good 👍

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tbh lost of experienced professional have just solidified their knowledge only by working and learning as they would need to further get how it works

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:06 PM

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I'm too curious for that shit XD I always wanna know how everything works

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:06 PM

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that is a required skill in technical software/IT 👍

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there is always a gap between pratical researchs going on and what is taught in school, and IT is very victim to that

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(it really depends on schools and school structures in states etc..)

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it is just the beginning of informatic techs

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which can be scary or amazing, or both

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I would say both

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:09 PM

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deep turret there is always a gap between pratical researchs going on and what is taught in ...

I literally only went to college for the piece of paper that says I know how to do my job XD

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I don't think I learned much useful there

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:10 PM

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:/

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.. I aborted college because of that

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😣

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I want to get things right and understand, if I must drop that for a paper, then no thank

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:11 PM

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in one of my courses one of the profs got replaced halfway through so when I went for my exam there was this moment of me and prof not knowing eachother XD

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that is to say, I stopped visiting most courses several weeks in XD

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:15 PM

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I did have good scores, even when skipping courses
I dropped when I was met with a engagement paper (that I didnt sign) and I knew I werent gonna handle the 3,5 next years like that

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:15 PM

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in the end once you have decent job history they don't care about the paper anymore anyway

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:16 PM

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it's just a bit harder to get history when you have no paper to start

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especially in covid etc

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discord ???????

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what was that

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side note : sorry for everyone coming here, feel free to ask about satisfactory dedicated servers

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damned

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we dont intend to hijack this channel

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that's is too big discord, wtfh, how can one moderate this

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:20 PM

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markdown?

h1

h2

h3

text?

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oh for real 😛

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:21 PM

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I didnt know you could do that, I only put '#'

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:21 PM

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markdown?

# h1

## h2

### h3

text?

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:21 PM

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oh

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I'll edit then

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:22 PM

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header3

vs bold

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yeah good job discord XD

deep turret Jun 23, 2023, 2:22 PM

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header 3 AND bold

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its just like header 3 but a bit glitched

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:29 PM

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clear lagoon ### header3 **vs bold**

this looks a lot more different on mobile

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:36 PM

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Has anyone run into the latest experimental dedicated server just hanging when you connect?

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I am working on a friends server at the moment and its not apparent what is going on, but I just copied his kubernetes deployment/service etc to my home and it works just fine

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``` is what we are getting when trying to connect

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:44 PM

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is NAT. are the ports forwarded correctly?

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that is port, server query port and beacon port UDP

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:50 PM

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I'm like 99% sure its not networking related

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its for both internal and external users

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ports are forwarded, and we can see the user connect in the server logs

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:51 PM

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do you have a new save or an existing save?

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:51 PM

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I also checked outbound and reflection to make sure my buddies firewall isnt the issue

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brand new

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we nuked the volume and started from fresh to rule out

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:52 PM

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you can try disabling game pausing from the server manager

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:52 PM

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I'll double check, I know its not paused on my end, but buddies I didn't watch

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I did ask about that though

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:53 PM

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dedicated server pauses by default when nobody is connected

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it's just a setting you can change when logged in as admin

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:53 PM

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ya, i remember its part of the image we are running as well as on setup

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I'll double check with him once he is off his work call here in a few

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:54 PM

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so you can connect to the server manager fine, it fails when you try to join the game? U7 or U8?

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:54 PM

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its U8

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and yeah, it goes to the loading screen with the top of the day etc on it

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it sits for a bit

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then goes back to main menu with a timeout error

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HMMMMMM

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:55 PM

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try setting -multihome=pod ip or -multihome=0.0.0.0 in the launch parameters, before -log -unattended if you have those

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:55 PM

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I might have rubber ducked myself, but I could be wrong

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multihome is set to 0.0.0.0

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it shows the client network is the overlay net though, so I am wondering if buddies CNI is jacked up

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nope, it shows on my end too nvm

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 2:57 PM

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vocal badge it shows the client network is the overlay net though, so I am wondering if budd...

it's 'cause it's NAT

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can you share the deployment config?

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 2:59 PM

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so I can't grab buddies config, but I'll send mine

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its the same, just environment changes

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:00 PM

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buddy running k8s in the cloud/dedi server or some local homelab setup?

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:00 PM

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both local homelabs

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though, he is a new labber so it might be that

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:01 PM

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buddy can connect from LAN but not from WAN?

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:01 PM

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correct

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sorry I misread no

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:01 PM

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buddy can't connect from LAN either?

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:01 PM

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deployment in my lab works all the way around

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his lab doesnt work at all

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internal or external

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:02 PM

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have him try spin up an nginx pod or something first, see if connectivity works at all maybe 😛

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:02 PM

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he is on the same vlan/sub as his lab too so not a lot of nat other than cni

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it does, we have Ark servers running there too

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its REALLY weird

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the only thing that is MAJORLY different is I run BGP

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like, bot my ELB setup where as he is simple L2

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GOT IT

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it was pause simulation

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"hey man did you turn pause off? yes. are you sure? yes. are you sure that you are sure? YES!"

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I just had him check on stream, it was on xD

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Thanks for the help

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:07 PM

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no problem, seen more timeout issues with pause being turned on. networking issues would usually be server manager not loading either, unless there's a typo in a port config somewhere. and k8s networking config issues are outside my ballpark XD

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:07 PM

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right lol

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I tried talking to some others as well, and all I ever heard was like check the NAT, its def NAT

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https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-gif-23730687

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:09 PM

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I mean to be fair, for most home users trying to run satisfactory server, NAT is often a good guess XD

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:10 PM

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true

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I am like tell me that to my dedicated HA firewalls, and my 4 node kubernetes cluster, and the L3 networking stack running FRR

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don't think the usual homegamer is running that xD

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:11 PM

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not really no 😛 I'd go broke on electric cost alone

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:13 PM

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don't remind me

clear lagoon Jun 23, 2023, 3:13 PM

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once you mentioned k8s I was considering it had to either be a bug (i.e. it was, game pausing being borked), or some esoteric issue I wouldn't be able to help with anyway other than rubber ducking

vocal badge Jun 23, 2023, 3:13 PM

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lol true

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I usually assume the latter

white brook Jun 23, 2023, 6:19 PM

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ok you can host 😛

austere mural Jun 23, 2023, 10:45 PM

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Does anyone have the issue where trees come back but cant be destroyed now? Is there a workaround by any chance?

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:16 AM

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is there commands to use to change play cap and tickrate? I can't find this game.ini file that everyone is talking about

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:21 AM

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visual onyx is there commands to use to change play cap and tickrate? I can't find this game...

are you on windows or linux ?

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:21 AM

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deep turret are you on windows or linux ?

windows epic games :)

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:21 AM

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(for the server)

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:21 AM

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yeah

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just wanting a 6 player cap and 30 tickrate

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I heard 60 isn't fun atm

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:23 AM

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installation folder + FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsServer\

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:23 AM

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visual onyx just wanting a 6 player cap and 30 tickrate

30 tickrate is the default

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:23 AM

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oh is it nice

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Game folder?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:24 AM

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what do you mean game folder ?

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:25 AM

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what is the name of the file to change the player cap?

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someone mentioned the game.ini file I guess that's something else then

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deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:25 AM

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it's Game.ini

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you need to select show option : file extension

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to better naviguate in configuration files

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:26 AM

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was thinking that

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:26 AM

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otherwise it can be misleading

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:27 AM

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yeah that was the game.ini file I posted before

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do I need to add the line?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:27 AM

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you need to add :

MaxPlayers=6```

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:27 AM

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is this good?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:28 AM

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it's cleaner to leave a space between parameter's group (the [] thing)

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yep

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:28 AM

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cool, tysm man

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:28 AM

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it may be safer to make the file readonly after that

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so the server doesnt override it when it restart

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:28 AM

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makes sense, I'll do that

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:28 AM

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also it is better to edit these file when the server is completely offline

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 12:28 AM

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yeah it is dw

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:29 AM

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then you good

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:33 AM

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austere mural Does anyone have the issue where trees come back but cant be destroyed now? Is t...

yes multiple people have this issues, apparently you can do a manual save then restart the dedicated server, and it's better after that, but I'm not sure, it would be better to restart client games as well ofcourse

carmine temple Jun 24, 2023, 1:45 AM

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can you use a a secure tunnelling service like ngrok for a dedicated satisfactory server

thick sand Jun 24, 2023, 6:38 AM

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Hello, i want join server satisfactory, but i have two errors :
Invalid authentication token
Your connection to the host has been lost

frosty gale Jun 24, 2023, 12:21 PM

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hello i have problem in my save, my game always crash in 1 minute playing another people have solution

📎 maPartie.sav

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it's possible

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can you help me pls

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i have 76 hours of playing

austere mural Jun 24, 2023, 12:23 PM

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deep turret yes multiple people have this issues, apparently you can do a manual save then r...

Thanks il try that

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:30 PM

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carmine temple can you use a a secure tunnelling service like ngrok for a dedicated satisfactor...

probably since the server supports forwarding

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:31 PM

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frosty gale hello i have problem in my save, my game always crash in 1 minute playing anothe...

did you try to load it on your game directly (as local game) ?

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sometimes you can load it locally, then save it locally then upload it again and it fix some problems

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also did you make all the common checks like having enough free RAM etc ?

frosty gale Jun 24, 2023, 12:33 PM

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deep turret did you try to load it on your game directly (as local game) ?

yeah i trying to load in local game

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and in 1 minute my game crashing always

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i dont understand

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 12:35 PM

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so it crashs both when in dedicated server and when in local game ?

frosty gale Jun 24, 2023, 12:38 PM

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yes exactly I launch or join the game and my game crashes between 30 seconds and 1 minutes after launching

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 12:57 PM

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... has anyone ever received an in-game notice saying the server will restart in 30 minutes? o-o

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 1:24 PM

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wth

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 1:24 PM

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clear lagoon ... has anyone ever received an in-game notice saying the server will restart in...

some do apparently, some people said it was when an update is avaiable

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 1:27 PM

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an update for what specifically though

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looks like the session restarted without doing anything else in particular

topaz pebble Jun 24, 2023, 2:14 PM

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performance and rubber banding still crazy bad, any recommendations yet ?

heavy wedge Jun 24, 2023, 3:15 PM

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So running satisfactory when i connect to it on the query port it says that is offline and not authenticated? Is there a way i can fix this?

visual onyx Jun 24, 2023, 3:22 PM

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where do I find the save for the dedicated server (my old pc), also has anyone had issues with the save corrupting or anything because I'm planning on doing a daily back up

topaz pebble Jun 24, 2023, 3:27 PM

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visual onyx where do I find the save for the dedicated server (my old pc), also has anyone h...

on linux it is in the .epic folder, so i assume on windows it would be in %localappdata%\.epic so so, i dunno google it

brave willow Jun 24, 2023, 4:00 PM

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topaz pebble performance and rubber banding still crazy bad, any recommendations yet ?

got the same problem .. 😦

unborn path Jun 24, 2023, 4:05 PM

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topaz pebble performance and rubber banding still crazy bad, any recommendations yet ?

howto fix this

peak vessel Jun 24, 2023, 4:07 PM

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Hey everyone, tldr server on Mac. it's been a hot minute since I've been in here (Update 5ish..) and I saw some mentions about the server running on Mac M1 (arm) via Win11 VM. I'm planning to try it, but if you've had success and know any tricks I'd appreciate feedback 🙏

gleaming jolt Jun 24, 2023, 4:29 PM

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Hello! Can you please tell me if there are any problems with installing Dedicated server in Experemental now? I want to try running it on another computer? Is it worth it now or is there a big problem with it. I run the server for 2 people to play, when playing through my computer there are some bugs, for example, the vehicle constantly breaks down and I have to disassemble and reassemble it. Are there even more problems when playing multiple people on a Dedicated server or +- the same way?

chrome pumice Jun 24, 2023, 5:14 PM

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clear lagoon ... has anyone ever received an in-game notice saying the server will restart in...

I have not seen that since update6. I believe it happens when the server does basically a manual save and upload. I think was on a default interval like every 24 hours or 48 hours.

spare orbit Jun 24, 2023, 5:49 PM

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doesnt happen for us at all. so its at least not default.
i guess some third party stuffs defaults or so

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i have never seen it in hundreds of hours on dedicated

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 6:52 PM

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first time I've ever seen it. don't have anything special configured. uptime was around 24h tho

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in U7 we never made 24h uptime due to dismantle crashes 😄

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 8:15 PM

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visual onyx where do I find the save for the dedicated server (my old pc), also has anyone h...

linux ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server
windows %userprofile%\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames\server (I guess, maybe a bit different at the end)

gloomy current Jun 24, 2023, 8:45 PM

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Hey guys - should I be able to connect to a dedicated server running on the same box as my client using the loopback address? I'm trying but having no luck, and not really sure why

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hm - after playing around, it works if I specify -multihome=0.0.0.0 but does not work if I leave off the bind option. I'm guessing something about the dedicated server doesn't like my IPv6 config?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 8:54 PM

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the dedicated server in its current state dont like lot of stuff and behavior weirdly why network binding options (-DisablePacketRouting and -multihome)

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we are a lot to try to get when it works and when it doesnt

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 8:55 PM

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gloomy current hm - after playing around, it works if I specify `-multihome=0.0.0.0` but does n...

tldr : currently it is like the client were trying a new address when the connection is already established on another address, if you are on local machine you could just try ipv6 loopback though ::1

gloomy current Jun 24, 2023, 8:55 PM

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ah interesting, yeah if I do -DisablePacketRouting that works too

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(which makes sense since I see that -multihome triggers that behavior)

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 8:57 PM

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it's a bit blurry

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I as well as some other people think it is a mismatch into the network manager dedicated server addon and the new UE5 behavior (different from UE4 used in update 7)

gloomy current Jun 24, 2023, 8:58 PM

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yeah, which tbf I don't expect experimental to be perfect

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Thanks man 🙂

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 8:59 PM

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we just are sad it is so complicated to connect the server since it may prevent experimenting the other things

gloomy current Jun 24, 2023, 8:59 PM

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yeah makes sense

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 9:06 PM

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anyone else noticing the server kicking you when you dismantle large blueprints?

subtle sedge Jun 24, 2023, 9:34 PM

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Hi! I got a dedicated server from Shockbyte and the lag is terrible. I'm trying to redownload the save file from the server so I can just continue to host a game on my computer for my friends to join. I cannot find the save file from the FTP server. Does anyone know how I would go about getting the save file that has been worked on while on the dedicated server?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 9:35 PM

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its a linux server ?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 9:35 PM

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deep turret linux `~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server` windows `%userprofile%...

^

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~/ is the satisfactory user home

subtle sedge Jun 24, 2023, 9:39 PM

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deep turret ^

I don't have that. I only have servermanager.sav. Might this be it?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 9:44 PM

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what

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so you dont have access yo files

subtle sedge Jun 24, 2023, 9:47 PM

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deep turret so you dont have access yo files

On my PC I do not have a file named "server" under \SaveGames. On the FTP for the server I do not have any save files, and it only shows .log and .cache in \SaveGames.

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 9:48 PM

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what is the root of your ftp

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on your pc you are not supposed to find it as the server doesnt run on your pc

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but in the ftp it must be there

subtle sedge Jun 24, 2023, 9:49 PM

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Let me try downloading Filezilla rather than doing anything from their web-based FTP.

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 9:49 PM

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I dont know if it will give you any access

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because ftp is not really secure, and web based can just be locally driven on their side

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 9:50 PM

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deep turret what is the root of your ftp

I meant : in what folder do you start

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 9:54 PM

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Does someone knows a lot about setup a dediscated server.. It's been 3days i try to make it work but it's not working;.

Explaination :
I got a server runnin in Satisfactory Update 7 Early Access. I got to reinstall my entire server because of a bug on it. After reinstalling Ubuntu Server, nothing worked anymore. I verified the firewall (ufw), the installation of steam and the game, the dependances, i tried all the thing to make Satisfactory Early Acces or Experimental work, but without success.

What i get :
On Early access server : Instant crash, Segmentation fault on starting.
On Experimental Branch : It starts, but in game, i got TIMED OUT "20.01" and i can't find anythink to change the value of the server timeout

Have a wonderful day/night,
Zarcross.
(ping me for reply, thanks ❤️ )

subtle sedge Jun 24, 2023, 9:55 PM

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deep turret I meant : in what folder do you start

This is as far back as I can go in the FTP

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I just saved too, and none of the "last modified" times are recent (other than the world.zip backup I just created)

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 9:59 PM

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ok so the .conf @subtle sedge

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then Epic

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then FactoryGames, etc

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is that what you went for ?

subtle sedge Jun 24, 2023, 10:00 PM

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Ahh yup I'm stupid. I went directly to FactoryGame in the home directory. Sorry! I got it. Thanks for your help!

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:06 PM

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patent dove Does someone knows a lot about setup a dediscated server.. It's been 3days i try...

probably the network bug everyone are facing (in u8) also if you run it at home, make sure your port forwarding rules still applies to the machine

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you can try adding -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=yourserverlocalipaddress

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(in the server starting script arguments at the start)

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:10 PM

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OMG thanks you a lot ! Experimental U8 works now

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Hmm on public network it doesn't seems to works.. Local OK but timed out on my public IP

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:16 PM

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deep turret you can try adding `-DisablePacketRouting -multihome=yourserverlocalipaddress`

but DisablePacketRouting makes it work on local network

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:16 PM

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did you install u8 directly ?

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or did you first installed u7 then updated to u8 ?

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:18 PM

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I tried both, like, i tried u8, then u7, then again u8 and again and again trying differents configurations

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But yea, it's possible that i installed u7 first

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:18 PM

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you said your server has a local IP and a public one. did you port forward correctly in your NAT device?

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all three of the ports, udp proto

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:19 PM

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oh you mean that i have to forward 15000 and 7777 with the "15777", i forwarded only 15777 and i worked before, but i can try

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(it is on UDP 👍 )

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:20 PM

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you need to forward the server query port (server status), the beacon port (connection handshakes) and the server port (game). so 7777, 15000 and 15777

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:20 PM

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ok i'll try that and i tell you if it works ;D

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uh, do i have to put my local ip or my public ip on the "-multihome="

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:25 PM

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the local one, of the device

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it uses the ip to create the socket

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:27 PM

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ok, i think i made a mistake somewhere on my NAT device and delete the two others records, now it works on both ip, tanks you a lot for your help, you are the best :D

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:28 PM

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deep turret you can try adding `-DisablePacketRouting -multihome=yourserverlocalipaddress`

so it works well with that setting now ?

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:28 PM

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You're very welcome. Good luck on Massage-2(A-B)b, pioneer!

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:28 PM

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(so we know as feedback)

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:28 PM

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clear lagoon You're very welcome. Good luck on Massage-2(A-B)b, pioneer!

what is that thing

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:28 PM

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what is what? XD

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:28 PM

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"Massage-2(A-B)b"

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:29 PM

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The name of the planet you play on

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:29 PM

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patent dove ok, i think i made a mistake somewhere on my NAT device and delete the two other...

so it works well on both public and private ip with -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=YourServerLocalIpAddress now ?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:29 PM

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clear lagoon The name of the planet you play on

fr, never noticed

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it's in the lore ?

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:30 PM

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yes

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:30 PM

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damned

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:30 PM

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I think during landing it says

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:30 PM

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"good luck on your mission on Massage-2(A-B)b pioneer" something like that ?

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:32 PM

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Yep on that config it works ! I think it was my mistake + the "-DisablePacketRouting" that are the problems

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:33 PM

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clear lagoon You're very welcome. Good luck on Massage-2(A-B)b, pioneer!

Thanks you a lot !

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:33 PM

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patent dove Yep on that config it works ! I think it was my mistake + the "-DisablePacketRou...

but you still have it on right ? (I want to make sure that setting can work with public ip too)

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:34 PM

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yep i put the two flags on my sh script

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:34 PM

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so u8 server with multihome settings would be network fixed now Yay

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🎉

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I feel better

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thank you

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:34 PM

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🎉

patent dove Jun 24, 2023, 10:34 PM

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deep turret thank you

Thanks YOU ! for your help for the community

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I hope some others players can be helped by that !

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:36 PM

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deep turret "good luck on your mission on Massage-2(A-B)b pioneer" something like that ?

deep turret Jun 24, 2023, 10:37 PM

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JaceGasm

clear lagoon Jun 24, 2023, 10:37 PM

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you can see it in the codex too normally, but mine is blank on the server XD

tidal relic Jun 25, 2023, 4:08 AM

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I imagine getting DC'ed while in a truck is not an uncommon experience?

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 5:52 AM

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opening this one instantly crashes the server

glass fable Jun 25, 2023, 6:21 AM

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knownbug

simple flare Jun 25, 2023, 7:59 AM

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Anyone got an idea if there's an nssm command/arguments that shows the console?

neat birch Jun 25, 2023, 8:10 AM

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Can yo even call console in the main menu?

simple flare Jun 25, 2023, 8:15 AM

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I can

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I was just talking about the log-window you get, when you start up a server.

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 9:10 AM

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hey guys, how can i change autosave interval?
Server is crashing every autosave ...

Got autosaves every few minutes...

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 9:19 AM

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check the dedicated server entry in the wiki

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its explained there

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 9:40 AM

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Yeah, but when I try to do it via command -> "command not recognized"

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spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 9:42 AM

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one is possible with command, one only in config files.
not sure if its interval or amount.
i think interval was possible ingame

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mayve try with a =

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 9:45 AM

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nop, i also dont find anything about the config file ...

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okay,, just looked it up in the config file there it is changed to 1800 - but game still does autosave every 3 minutes

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 9:52 AM

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did you estart the server?

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 10:02 AM

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lol, many times

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 11:47 AM

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where are the savegames on linux dedicated servers?

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 11:48 AM

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home folder of the user.
in .config

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so hidden folder

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 11:48 AM

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ah lol

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 12:13 PM

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full location is ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 12:22 PM

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got it yeah, but is experimental that hard bugged in dedicated servers ?
We get only Time Outs, Rubberbanding, etc.
On Linux, Windows .. Doesnt care.

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 12:34 PM

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it also depends on your setup and server location, so if you are running localhost on your windows machine it will work better network wise, and if your server is a bit slower in the cpu you can get more rubber banding

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I recommend using -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=YourServerLocalIpAddress
(in the server starting script arguments at the start)

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so networking is fixed

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 12:41 PM

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deep turret it also depends on your setup and server location, so if you are running localho...

im hosting the server .. never had issues, except for that experimental branch atm.
I disabled package routing already.

with the multihome , stupid question lol. Do they mean private or public ip there ? ^^

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but yeah cpu is a bit slow with 2,1 GHz lol

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 12:43 PM

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the one on your server machine, as I wrote in the line

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 12:44 PM

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what does disablepacketrouting exactly do for the game?

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 12:45 PM

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so private ok, but with multihome set, packagerouting should get disabled automatically i think?

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 12:57 PM

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brave willow hey guys, how can i change autosave interval? Server is crashing every autosave...

console command is broken in U8. set in config file manually while server is stopped. #dedicated-servers message

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:00 PM

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clear lagoon console command is broken in U8. set in config file manually while server is sto...

yeah, did that 🙂 But is it seconds or minutes there ? ^^

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When i changed that it always got reset to 30 after restarting

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 1:00 PM

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set it read only

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:01 PM

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did that then 😄

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:01 PM

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the while server is stopped bit is important. it flushes its runtime config to disk on exit. expected behavior

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:02 PM

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is it recommended to change the the network options there ?
This ones ..

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:02 PM

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some people say it can help.

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:03 PM

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but need to be changed on server and client right ?

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:03 PM

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you say the server crashes on save or do all players time out?

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:03 PM

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Save -> 30 seconds lag -> TimeOut

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:04 PM

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do you have a large save?

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:04 PM

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clear lagoon do you have a large save?

freshly started map ... 900KB size

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:04 PM

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that's weird. if you look in the logs, how long does the save take?

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 1:05 PM

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i also set the internet speed and it removed most rubberbanding etc.

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also thats a client problem

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because even when the server terminates completely, you can still move freely before timing out

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so you dont ever get a lag and then timeout from something happening server side

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:06 PM

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clear lagoon that's weird. if you look in the logs, how long does the save take?

do you know, for what i should search in the logs?

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:07 PM

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give me five. I need to get to my computer to check

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 1:07 PM

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brave willow do you know, for what i should search in the logs?

probably just the word saved

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:07 PM

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think that should be it

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:07 PM

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I need one of the lines after that

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it prints total save time

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 1:08 PM

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saved in x
i think

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:08 PM

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this one i also get much

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0,4 seconds to save 😄 So shouldnt be the problem there

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:08 PM

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don't think you're disconnecting due to the saves

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 1:09 PM

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saving seems normal

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:09 PM

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I've had it happen when saves take over twenty seconds that your client drops connection but this is not that

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:09 PM

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okay

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 1:10 PM

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so you need your client log for this now

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:13 PM

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spare orbit so you need your client log for this now

but what should i look up there

brave willow Jun 25, 2023, 1:13 PM

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brave willow is it recommended to change the the network options there ? This ones ..

think im going to try this .. Change file, set to read only, restart ?

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 1:23 PM

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well, what exactly happens when yoz timeout

olive dawn Jun 25, 2023, 1:30 PM

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yo is there any new servers i can join

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 1:31 PM

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olive dawn yo is there any new servers i can join

#looking-for-group-old

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:03 PM

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Hey so i wanted to play on a dedicated server with friends hosted by one friend but if i try to connect it only displays "This server apperas to be offline"

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:03 PM

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can the other friends join without issues?

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:04 PM

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yep

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:04 PM

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remove the server and add it again, make sure to double check that the IP and port are entered correctly

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:05 PM

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i have tried that and changing firewall settings, restarting game and pc, reinstalling satisfactory already

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:10 PM

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I'm not sure. Could indicate an issue with your outbound firewall rules, possibly in your router, if you have one with such advanced functionality

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I've never seen straight up connection failures that were client side, only server side config issues. but you said others can connect externally so idk

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:12 PM

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ill try to connect to another network

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via my phone

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if i pig the domain it comes back with "Destination net unreachable." strange...

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:15 PM

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can you tell me the domain? 🤔

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:15 PM

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not sure gotta ask the friend

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:16 PM

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sounds like either the dns is misconfigured, or the domain record was very recently created and still needs to propagate, or the dns record points to a bogon network

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you can try connecting on the IP address directly instead of the domain

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:18 PM

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i just noticed something if i force ping via IPv4 it works because the dont have an IPv6 addres yet so is there any way to force IPv4 in satisfactory

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:18 PM

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clear lagoon you can try connecting on the IP address directly instead of the domain

lemme try

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:18 PM

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you can disable ipv6 in your computer's network adapter

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:19 PM

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yeah but i need IPv6 for things i do work releated

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:19 PM

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the only reason it would try to connect to ipv6 is if your friend configured ipv6 on the domain name (i.e. an AAAA-record)

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manually enter the ipv4 address instead of the domain name in the server manager

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:20 PM

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yeah when using the Ipv4 addres it works

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:20 PM

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tell your friend that if they don't have ipv6 properly configured, delete the AAAA-record for the domain 😛

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:21 PM

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ill do thanks for the help!

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:21 PM

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no problem 🙂 first time I've seen this issue but it's good to keep in mind for me that this can happen too XD

loud nest Jun 25, 2023, 2:22 PM

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i think thats something many peopel can have issues with

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 2:23 PM

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it's usually more of an issue on the server side since clients usually connect with an ipv4 or a domain name that only has records for ipv4 XD

gentle delta Jun 25, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Why does a satisfactory server lag so much ?

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a minecraft server does not lag on my side

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If you have any tips

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because I have 5ms with the serv and it lags enormously

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:26 PM

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what's the tick rate if you look in the server manager?

viscid scaffold Jun 25, 2023, 3:43 PM

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When trying to connect to my server i just setup i'm getting this after a few seconds. Any ideas as to what would help fix this? https://i.imgur.com/JmlByoR.png

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:45 PM

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viscid scaffold When trying to connect to my server i just setup i'm getting this after a few se...

can you try launching the server with -multihome=192.168.0.250 ?

viscid scaffold Jun 25, 2023, 3:45 PM

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Yup 2 seconds

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:46 PM

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do you get the error on join or does the server manager not load at all?

viscid scaffold Jun 25, 2023, 3:46 PM

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@clear lagoon Yup that seemed to be the problem not sure why...

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 3:47 PM

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someone an idea hat this is?
its quite spammy

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:47 PM

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it tends to break on windows with ipv6

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haven't really looked into why because I personally don't use windows XD

viscid scaffold Jun 25, 2023, 3:47 PM

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I had just installed the server on another pc locally and was going to connect to it on server manager and then that is when i received that error. not even connecting to join the server

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I don't use ipv6 😦 and im pretty sure i disabled it on my ubuntu server

spare orbit Jun 25, 2023, 3:49 PM

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ip a
and check if it says ipv6

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:50 PM

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spare orbit someone an idea hat this is? its quite spammy

sorry, no clue, that specific entry doesn't appear in my server logs

wooden vine Jun 25, 2023, 3:52 PM

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Hi,

I tried to generate a map on my dedicated server but i have these errors :

do you know what i can do ?

Sorry for my english i'm french 🙂

viscid scaffold Jun 25, 2023, 3:53 PM

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spare orbit ip a and check if it says ipv6

So I checked and it does say ipv6 however i do have it disabled in the settings menu

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:53 PM

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You can ignore those as long as you do not experience any adverse effects

wooden vine Jun 25, 2023, 3:54 PM

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Actually the problem is that it doesn't generate a map 😦

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:55 PM

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I'm not sure what you mean by that. Does it not show in the server manager or can you not join the game?

wooden vine Jun 25, 2023, 3:58 PM

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I create a map there (first photo) :

I set a name, when i want to connect i have this message (second photo) :

and my VPS is crashing at this point

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 3:58 PM

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are you running U7 or U8? how much RAM does your VPS have?

wooden vine Jun 25, 2023, 4:00 PM

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I'll try to find the answer for the first question, for the second, I have 4GB, not enough maybe ?

viscid scaffold Jun 25, 2023, 4:00 PM

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I think it needs 12 - 16, believe that is whats said on wiki

clear lagoon Jun 25, 2023, 4:00 PM

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no, for the stable version (update 7) you you need at least 12GB

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for update 8 (experimental) you can get away with less (6-8)

wooden vine Jun 25, 2023, 4:01 PM

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Ohhhh okay so that's it I think, thank you 🙂

karmic sable Jun 25, 2023, 7:11 PM

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Does anyone know why I would receive this message:
When trying to just setup a new Experimental Branch server?

gentle delta Jun 25, 2023, 7:15 PM

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clear lagoon what's the tick rate if you look in the server manager?

30

peak vessel Jun 25, 2023, 7:52 PM

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spare orbit someone an idea hat this is? its quite spammy

Out of context, my thought is they take a comparison between two components and square them [(a-b)^2] but in the case of 0.0 a and b are equal, likely duplicates (race condition kinda stuff) - possible packet loss so local variable isn't updated. Or I'm completely wrong lol

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 7:53 PM

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deep turret I recommend using `-DisablePacketRouting -multihome=YourServerLocalIpAddress` (i...

Can anyone tell me where the script is on Linux and how to add them exactly?

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I wanna run the dedicated server as service but somehow the disable packet routing argument doesn't work in the service conf

slow verge Jun 25, 2023, 8:01 PM

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"The best way to tweak those values is by running FG.NetworkQuality <number from 0 to 3> from the server console until we expose this in the server settings UI"

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Am I dumb or whats going on? :D

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:05 PM

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minor harbor I wanna run the dedicated server as service but somehow the disable packet routi...

What is your service config? Because it worked ok when I made a systemd unit file for my server

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:17 PM

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📎 Textdokument_neu.txt

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:21 PM

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I don't see anything obviously wrong, although you do have some things that I don't have. Not sure if one of those is causing it. Here's what I have for my unit file

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📎 satisfactory.service

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:22 PM

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brave willow so private ok, but with multihome set, packagerouting should get disabled automa...

it does not

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:23 PM

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gloomy current I don't see anything obviously wrong, although you do have some things that I do...

Thank you, I'll try that version

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:24 PM

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minor harbor I wanna run the dedicated server as service but somehow the disable packet routi...

it works for me :

..
ExecStart=/srv/Satisfactory/FactoryServer.sh -DisablePack....
..```

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(I installed with steamcmd +force_install_dir /srv/FactoryServer)

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:25 PM

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I figured the path. Weird. Maybe the double quotes are wrong at execstart?

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:26 PM

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what double quotes

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probably

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why would you want double quotes

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:27 PM

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I assume they aren't needed (or else mine wouldn't work lol) but idk if they actually will screw anything up if you quote the ExecStart command

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:27 PM

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depends what you quote and with what quote

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and whats quoted (if using variables)

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:27 PM

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I have never quoted ExecStart (or other commands) when I wrote unit files before, fwiw

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:28 PM

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ExecStart lines arent shells, they are parsed by systemd, so quoting it entirely is wrong, for instance

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:29 PM

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deep turret ExecStart lines arent shells, they are parsed by systemd, so quoting it entirely...

Thanks for the input. The sources on the web for creating services aren't that easy sometimes

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:29 PM

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My guess is that maybe by quoting it, you're causing systemd to look for a binary named "/foo/bar/FactoryServer.sh -DisablePacketRouting"

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:29 PM

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yep

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that would be that, for instance

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if you quote the full line

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to make things simple :

you want systemd to separate arguments correctly
you want the satisfactory shell to not see quotes as arguments

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so avoid extra quotes

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:32 PM

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I did. Still get the connection timeout. D'oh

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When I loaded the script manually it worked

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:32 PM

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what is your line exactly ?

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do you have the correct ip in the multihome ?

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:33 PM

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in which file is the multihome line? I couldn't find anything

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:33 PM

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the multihome is an argument

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:34 PM

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deep turret I recommend using `-DisablePacketRouting -multihome=YourServerLocalIpAddress` (i...

like I showed

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:35 PM

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so in this case just the argument for the script?

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Should Loopback work? otherwise I have a problem

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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so it looks like :
ExecStart=/srv/Satisfactory/FactoryServer.sh -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=YourServerLocalIpAddress -ServerQueryPort=15777 -BeaconPort=15000 -Port=7777

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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wait local ip. okay so the one the router gives the machine

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sorry didn't see the local

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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You should be able to connect via the loopback address if that's what you mean. I can connect to my server by going in-game and adding 127.0.0.1

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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gloomy current You should be able to connect via the loopback address if that's what you mean. ...

when multihome is not set I think though

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and only when you are running the server on your current machine

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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ah, yeah can't speak to that. I found that DisablePacketRouting was enough for my purposes so I don't have multihome set

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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you still can connect using the server local ip

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:38 PM

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minor harbor wait local ip. okay so the one the router gives the machine

its the ip on the server machine

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you can use ip ad show to see it (iproute2 network tool package you are expected to have on your linux)

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at least that's the name of the package on archlinux

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sorry

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I forgot the ad I feel stupid

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:41 PM

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I didn't know you could abbreviate it further, I've always typed ip addr show lol

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Fun fact, I just tested and you can even go as far as ip a show

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:41 PM

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deep turret you can use `ip ad show` to see it (`iproute2` network tool package you are expe...

Used ifconfig. Was easier for me

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:41 PM

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or even ip a s, wow

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:41 PM

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I'm on a debian derivate

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:42 PM

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linux is trying to push people to switch to iproute now

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but debian and derivative still use the old way

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:42 PM

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deep turret I forgot the **`ad`** I feel stupid

You aren't. I learned more about systemd from you than from the interent. Thank you very much for your help

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:42 PM

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gloomy current or even `ip a s`, wow

And thank you very much also

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:42 PM

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np man

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:43 PM

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ip l a l eth0 nif t v i 654 the "they fooled us" meme incoming

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:44 PM

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For what it's worth the best resource I know of for systemd is actually the man pages. Kind of a slog but more accurate than people's random blogs or whatever

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:44 PM

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(dont use that command please)

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:44 PM

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gloomy current For what it's worth the best resource I know of for systemd is actually the man ...

and more important : usually up to date

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sometimes things are deprecated, and going learning from a 5 year old article can be double edged

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:46 PM

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deep turret `ip l a l eth0 nif t v i 654` the "they fooled us" meme incoming

(= ip link add link eth0 name nif type vlan id 654)

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:47 PM

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lol, I was wondering what some of those things expanded to

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I got as far as "ip link add link eth0" before I got lazy and said "yeah I can imagine this would be fun"

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:48 PM

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So the startup command for the service now is:
/home/gnzlbrmpf/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/Engine/Binaries/Linux/UnrealServer-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=192.xxx.xxx.xxx

Still geht the connection timeout😪

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:49 PM

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you are trying to launch the shell directly
the package include some script that set it up first

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Nope.
One sec

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[Unit]
Description=Satisfactory dedicated server
After=network.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/home/gnzlbrmpf/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=192.xxx.xxx.xxx
Type=simple
Restart=always
User=gnzlbrmpf

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:50 PM

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And that's still not working?

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:50 PM

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No it isn't

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:50 PM

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Silly question but did you remember to systemctl daemon-reload after changing the file?

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:51 PM

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I did that, yes

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Also stopped the service and restartet it

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server was offline on the client

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could a reboot help?

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Are you running the client locally or on another box?

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:52 PM

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client and server are two different machines

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:52 PM

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And on the client machine I assume you're able to otherwise reach the server - like if you ping 192.x.x.x it works

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:52 PM

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From the client I access the server via ssh

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so yes

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rdp works as well

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right now

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:53 PM

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Do you have a firewall running on the server? If so is it allowing the satisfactory ports?

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:53 PM

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firewall is inactive

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:54 PM

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extended version of what I'm using is
#dedicated-servers message (there are all the 3 files above and below it)
with installation as :
(errata: add systemd (linked above) 'satisfactoryd-update.service' file too)

📎 myInstallProto.txt

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if you want to check some specific things, that is all the details of my installation

ancient timber Jun 25, 2023, 8:54 PM

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can dedicated servers be ran on update 8 yet?

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:54 PM

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Your server isn't behind a nat or something is it? I am assuming when you ssh you use that same 192.x.x.x IP

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:55 PM

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ancient timber can dedicated servers be ran on update 8 yet?

yes, it could be run on u8 day one

ancient timber Jun 25, 2023, 8:55 PM

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Thank you!

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:55 PM

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ancient timber Thank you!

be aware it is extra experimental though

ancient timber Jun 25, 2023, 8:55 PM

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extra!

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:56 PM

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gloomy current Your server isn't behind a nat or something is it? I am assuming when you ssh yo...

tbh I'm going though a dyndns to make sure port forwarding works. The only open ports the servers is listening to are the game ports and my ssh/rdp port

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If I start the FactoryServer.sh -DisablePacketRouting manually the server works fine

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:57 PM

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ok well that at least helps rule out a lot of network config issues

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:57 PM

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deep turret extended version of what I'm using is https://discord.com/channels/3704729390549...

oh and my setup file is currently with
OTHERSETTINGS="-DisablePacketRouting -multihome=ServerMachineLocalIpAddress"
(server-TheNameOfTheInstance.conf file)

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:58 PM

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minor harbor tbh I'm going though a dyndns to make sure port forwarding works. The only open ...

dyndns does not setup port forwarding

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it only give you the ip to connect to

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 8:58 PM

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I guess I'm not sure of why there would be any differences network reachability-wise in a manual start from your ssh session, vs if you start it via systemd

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The server should spit out messages to the journal, maybe try journalctl -xe and see if you spot any errors that look promising?

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:59 PM

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if it is same context (not other container or anything) then it is supposed to be same network yep

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:59 PM

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deep turret dyndns does not setup port forwarding

The port forwarding is set up in my router. It worked fine wirth update 7

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and u8 as well

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 8:59 PM

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minor harbor The port forwarding is set up in my router. It worked fine wirth update 7

the 3 ports are forwarded ?

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 8:59 PM

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till mircosoft killed rdp somehow

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all 3, TCP and UDP

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:00 PM

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(you can drop TCP, and keep UDP only)

placid badge Jun 25, 2023, 9:00 PM

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Our server is crashing specifically when we deconstruct items in our base, can be any item, and it is seemly random. But the server crashes about 10 or so times a day if we play during the day full time. Here is a snippet of the crash log if anybody has any ideas on it.

<RuntimeProperties>
    <CrashVersion>3</CrashVersion>
    <ExecutionGuid>A2B092F563CC4C259BD09A2431236901</ExecutionGuid>
    <CrashGUID>UE4CC-Linux-993B71C7A79445EE9C4AD2B688D365B7_0002</CrashGUID>
    <IsEnsure>false</IsEnsure>
    <IsAssert>true</IsAssert>
    <CrashType>Assert</CrashType>
    <ErrorMessage>Assertion failed: (Index &gt;= 0) &amp; (Index &lt; ArrayNum) [File:Runtime/Core/Public\Containers/Array.h] [Line: 674] Array index out of bounds: 2550 from an array of size 2550</ErrorMessage>
    <CrashReporterMessage />
    <ProcessId>38</ProcessId>
    <SecondsSinceStart>74563</SecondsSinceStart>

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:04 PM

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deep turret (you can drop TCP, and keep UDP only)

Good to know thanks. Any suggestions on the linux distro to use for the server? Seems like I have to reinstall it cause the FactoryServer.sh quits itself now. And yes, I stopped the service beforehand. Will try a reboot and if that won't work I'll reinstall the whole machine. Right now it's on LinuxMint

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 9:05 PM

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I'm running it on Arch cause my desktop is Arch (btw), and it works great on that. But... I wouldn't recommend you use Arch just for the hell of it lol

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:05 PM

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I tried arch. Some commands are different and stuff but the heck can you customize it

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 9:06 PM

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Yeah I gave it a whirl just for the sheer learning experience

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It was kind of eye opening to have to build the system up from basically a kernel and nothing else

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:07 PM

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I would not recommend change distribution just for trying to make a dedicated satisfactory server working on it, unless you are already familiar with it, especially stuff like archlinux which even if it can be great, require a lot of "customization":tailoring

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:07 PM

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gloomy current Yeah I gave it a whirl just for the sheer learning experience

I never was able to run the game itself on any linux (don't know why) so I was somehow stuck with the debian derivates cause they're easier to learn^^

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:08 PM

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it's like buying tailored cloth, you NEED to go get your mesures and stuff

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:08 PM

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deep turret I would not recommend change distribution just for trying to make a dedicated sa...

I don't mind customization tailoring or the learning curve.

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 9:08 PM

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My general linux recommendation is basically Ubuntu or a derivative

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Cause they seem to be the most "it just works"

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(which you're already on)

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:09 PM

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I'm archlinux team but only if you like the taste of blood or reading lot of documentation

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:09 PM

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gloomy current Cause they seem to be the most "it just works"

Manjaro just works as well and is arch

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:09 PM

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deep turret I'm archlinux team but only if you like the taste of blood or reading lot of doc...

taste of blood? Gimme. Documentation -> with enough time always

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I'm used to the manpages

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:09 PM

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unfortunately Manjaro do not really work as well :c

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:10 PM

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for the standard user they usually do.

gloomy current Jun 25, 2023, 9:10 PM

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deep turret I'm archlinux team but only if you like the taste of blood or reading lot of doc...

man the arch wiki is definitely kind of great

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:10 PM

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Ok, I'm not the standard user so I guess that's why manjaro didn't work for me lol

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:10 PM

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deep turret I'm archlinux team but only if you like the taste of blood or reading lot of doc...

plain arch?

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:11 PM

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gloomy current man the arch wiki is definitely kind of great

the down side is : sometimes it works greater for other distribution than it does for archlinux, because when debian and unbuntu switch to the "new schemes" wikis are already not up to date for archlinux

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:14 PM

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minor harbor plain arch?

yes plain arch, manjaro add tools that are usually duplicate of archlinux ones, and sometimes it conflicts, it says it review arch packages before running it on manjaro, but in fact it sometimes just break dependencies of other packages that already went downstream but depends on the new stuff that is not there yet, archlinux rolling when things like that happens can be 3-4 days to settle, but when manjaro in between, manjaro tools do not always understand it and it is half updated for like 2 weeks sometimes, which breaks things for people using it

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manjaro is nice, but Imo it should more stick to being a archlinux preset setup and pre added tools that are customized to work with each others, than trying to be isolated from archlinux repositories and tools

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:15 PM

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deep turret yes plain arch, manjaro add tools that are usually duplicate of archlinux ones, ...

Is it safe to update the system with the server running? I know the rolling release but also had some downs with these distros

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:15 PM

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depends what you are updating, that's why pacman will always ask you if you commit to it or not

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that's why archlinux need some knowledge to run smoothly and other thing around that line

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the thing manjaro is nice that archlinux doesnt do : isolate kernel packages

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that's the major update downside about archlinux : if you update kernel you better be shuting down then restarting

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because it overwrite the kernel packages, with the currently executing said kernel older version's part that are still not loaded

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if any software want it, it will try to load new modules into the current kernel and it will fail

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manjaro have everykernel side by side, it takes more space but you can update safely

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I still dont really get why archlinux does not do that, when it could then have cleanup hooks to not stack too many versions

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:20 PM

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deep turret yes plain arch, manjaro add tools that are usually duplicate of archlinux ones, ...

that especially happens with graphic updates

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archlinux really is rolling release, it is only made to run on the edge

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(but you can set it up to run older package, but you need to do the fancy adapting settings by yourself)

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:22 PM

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kernel updates can bepainful but most distros keep the old kernel. At least the ones I know. On Mint you have to delete the old ones manually

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Which can cause problems as well

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:23 PM

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the thing is on arch the kernels are ~3 to 9 days lagging behind the literal linux stable branch release
so it is updated very very often

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I sometimes run kernels that are literally 2days old

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:25 PM

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deep turret I sometimes run kernels that are literally 2days old

The question for me is: Are they stable enough for SF server? 🙂

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In your three systemd files:
Do I just need to adjust the paths/username or is there a need to change the variable calls as well? When using your install instructions?

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:26 PM

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minor harbor The question for me is: Are they stable enough for SF server? 🙂

certainly, the tricky part is making a stable configuration that fit your needs at the start
then it will be reliable, unless you update breaking things (like new edge breaking python super update version and you rely on it)

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:27 PM

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deep turret certainly, the tricky part is making a stable configuration that fit your needs ...

The server is just for SF. I don't need python or anything, just ssh, maybe rdp and kate^^

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:27 PM

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minor harbor In your three systemd files: Do I just need to adjust the paths/username or is t...

if you follow the instructions you can use these files as they are exactly 1:1, I put instructions on creating satisfactory user

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you can still customize it though

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:27 PM

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deep turret if you follow the instructions you can use these files as they are exactly 1:1, ...

Thanks, I'll give it a shot then. Maybe the server will work afterwards

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:28 PM

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like changing satisfactory user to satisfactory-game user everywhere in the files and instructions

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:28 PM

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deep turret you can still customize it though

I'd just change the username

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:28 PM

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the only thing important to change is your starting username

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that's why I put a weird username as placeholder

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:28 PM

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deep turret like changing satisfactory user to satisfactory-game user everywhere in the file...

Everywhere. That's clear. Otherwise it won't run

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:28 PM

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so you can even sed 's//' instruction.file into it

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:29 PM

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Don't worry, I understand the files and will read them attentive before using them. But they are a great headstart

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:30 PM

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you may also want to setup -u and -g numbers of the user and group if you want to use graphic login on the machine

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otherwise it will use >1000 uid and may show up on login screen

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:31 PM

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deep turret you may also want to setup -u and -g numbers of the user and group if you want t...

Let me check if ssh is working on android then the others won't need to access the server as long as my phone has an internet connection

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:32 PM

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(I prefer using ssh on a machine with a keyboard personally, I use android only as backup)

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:32 PM

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deep turret otherwise it will use >1000 uid and may show up on login screen

the best option is I believe to put the graphic users above something like 5000 id, and then set the graphic login to only gather above that

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it gives more room and prevent using system predefined ids

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:33 PM

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deep turret (I prefer using ssh on a machine with a keyboard personally, I use android only ...

It works, so no graphic login needed

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:34 PM

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anyway : good luck o/ ✨

minor harbor Jun 25, 2023, 9:35 PM

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Thank you

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 9:36 PM

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ps : users of manjaro : setup ssh before needing it, you will escape a lot of troubles when graphic will go off, and you will at least be able to gracefully rollback

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 10:17 PM

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deep turret I'm archlinux team but only if you like the taste of blood or reading lot of doc...

ps: raw or cook yourself (or raw with your fine custom sauce :D)

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I hope I didn't kill this channel

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 10:33 PM

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placid badge Our server is crashing specifically when we deconstruct items in our base, can b...

some of these bugs are fixed on u8
unfortunately it is a breaking update, so it's either not further developed (u7) as is or experimental (u8) as is
most bugs like that are fixed in u8, but u8 introduce new bugs

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they plan on stabilizing u8 along september if I recall correctly, as a lot of the dev team will be on holiday this 2 months

deep turret Jun 25, 2023, 11:15 PM

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deep turret extended version of what I'm using is https://discord.com/channels/3704729390549...

@minor harbor sorry for ping
errata: you should have 'satisfactoryd-update.service' file too at lines 7 and 38
also here is informations on my server-InstanceName.conf current file #dedicated-servers message

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or use this corrected version (also removing notices about things I didnt test that is now tested) :

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btw : blood moon :D (or maybe only sightly ?)

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 1:00 AM

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Added nicer explanations, giving hints for shutting down instances too
Also here are the needed systemd files (messages link, for completeness) :
#dedicated-servers message

📎 myInstallProto.txt

left belfry Jun 26, 2023, 5:26 AM

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deep turret ps : users of manjaro : setup ssh before needing it, you will escape a lot of tr...

ps: users of arch based distros, use the satisfactory-server AUR package it makes life very easy (you might be using it already, i didnt scroll up just wanted to do this here)

spice wraith Jun 26, 2023, 6:18 AM

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When the game goes live, what happens to the experimental builds?

minor harbor Jun 26, 2023, 6:41 AM

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deep turret <@620921442237808660> sorry for ping errata: you should have 'satisfactoryd-upda...

Thanks. I'll use the corrected verion 😉

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 6:50 AM

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spice wraith When the game goes live, what happens to the experimental builds?

it becomes the early access too

minor harbor Jun 26, 2023, 6:51 AM

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And we don't know what will happen after version 1.0. I don't think there are plans beyond that yet since the priority is to release version 1.0.

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 6:53 AM

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left belfry ps: users of arch based distros, use the satisfactory-server AUR package it make...

aur is aur, I improved it a lot for me, you can check the message just above yours to see how

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 6:55 AM

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minor harbor And we don't know what will happen after version 1.0. I don't think there are pl...

I think the early access branch will just stop being early access on epic and a new final branch will show on steam

minor harbor Jun 26, 2023, 6:55 AM

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deep turret I think the early access branch will just stop being early access on epic and a ...

I think the same. But I'm not sure if the EA steam version will just be the final one as well. On steam you just have one verion to choose.

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 6:58 AM

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minor harbor I think the same. But I'm not sure if the EA steam version will just be the fina...

like experimental becomes = early access
early access will be = final
until some other update is in development (but the game is considered complete gameplay already)

minor harbor Jun 26, 2023, 6:59 AM

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Still waiting for the announcement of the flushable toilet DLC🤣

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 7:31 AM

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Hey Community,

I currently hosting a Update7 Server and i want to check out ser Update8 so i deceided i create another instance and i installed Update8 fresh on the same maschine.

I started it but sadly it does shutdown itself after a couple of seconds while its booting

This is what i can find in the logs

[2023.06.26-07.26.08:274][ 0]LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Failed to initialize Steam, this could be due to a Steam server and client running on the same machine. Try ru> [2023.06.26-07.26.08:274][ 0]LogOnline: Display: STEAM: OnlineSubsystemSteam::Shutdown() [2023.06.26-07.26.08:274][ 0]LogOnline: Warning: STEAM: Steam API failed to initialize!

and

[2023.06.26-07.26.08:273][ 0]LogGenericPlatformMisc: Error: SetEnvironmentVar not implemented for this platform: SteamAppId = 526870 [2023.06.26-07.26.08:274][ 0]LogSteamShared: Warning: Steam Dedicated Server API failed to initialize.

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oh and i forgot to mention , i want to run V7 and V8 simultaniously

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and yes i do not use the default ports on V8

spare orbit Jun 26, 2023, 7:58 AM

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i get this when there already is a server running.
so either even with changing ports you cant run two, or thy arent actually changed

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 9:01 AM

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signal jasper and yes i do not use the default ports on V8

Did you change all 3 ports? Have you tried running with -nosteam if you think this is the cause of the failure? Check the CrashReports dir to make sure you're not crashing due to some other issue

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 9:45 AM

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narrow raft Did you change all 3 ports? Have you tried running with -nosteam if you think th...

yes all 3 ports are changed.

I will try -nosteam now

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 9:47 AM

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if that doesn't work, feel free to share the crashreport context xml

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 9:47 AM

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okay -nosteam didnt work

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 9:50 AM

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and if it's not a crash, share the full log file

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 9:55 AM

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📎 FactoryGame.log

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 10:16 AM

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[2023.06.26-09.54.17:826][ 0]LogServer: Error: Failed to initialize server. Could not bind any addresses to port '15000'.This is very likely caused by another server instance already running. Use a different port

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make sure you set your ports differently than the U7 server. i.e. -ServerQueryPort=15001 with equals signs, not spaces

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@signal jasper: ^

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 10:18 AM

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so its true i cant run 2 servers even with different ports

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 10:18 AM

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you can. you have not set a different port however

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15000 is the default

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 10:19 AM

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then its not using my prompt wich i give with the start of the server via command line

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i may try do set the port in the .ini

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 10:20 AM

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no no you misunderstand. the other two ports are correctly configured. but the first one is not

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you have this set: LogInit: Command Line: -⁠ServerQueryPort=15000 -⁠BeaconPort=15001 -Port=15002 -nosteam -log -unattended

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however ServerQueryPort=15000 won't work as it is the default BeaconPort, so is already in use by the U7 server

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set ServerQueryPort to a different number, i.e. 15003

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 11:11 AM

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ohhhhhh damn ... there is the mistake !! i mixed the numbers up ^^ ill give it a try

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look at that , now it works.

thanks @narrow raft. I really looked over this simple error :p

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 11:17 AM

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No problem, glad I could help :)

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 12:09 PM

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i have one more question then i am happy ^^

i want to use the Update7 savefile for my Update8 Server but i cant find the savefile on debian.

i cant find it here ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames

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any idea ?

shadow meteor Jun 26, 2023, 12:10 PM

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Hi! Anyone knows how to change AutosaveInterval in last game version? Command from Wiki not working

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 12:48 PM

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left belfry ps: users of arch based distros, use the satisfactory-server AUR package it make...

Also last time I checked it it weren't that good out of the box
there was missing systemd temp/ source directory connections and things

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and it also doesn't really supports update

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ok, now I'm really thinking it is bad at that point

narrow raft Jun 26, 2023, 1:17 PM

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signal jasper i have one more question then i am happy ^^ i want to use the Update7 savefile...

It should be in ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server

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Specifically, the home folder of the user the server is running as. if you're on linux that is

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on windows it's in %LocalAppData%/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server if memory serves

signal jasper Jun 26, 2023, 1:24 PM

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narrow raft It should be in `~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server`

damn you are a genius SnuttsGood
i dont know why but today i make really stupid things .. linux user over 10 years but i checked the ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames with my admin user and not my user for game instance tired_jace

left belfry Jun 26, 2023, 4:08 PM

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deep turret aur is aur, I improved it a lot for me, you can check the message just above you...

nice!

left belfry Jun 26, 2023, 4:08 PM

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deep turret Also last time I checked it it weren't that good out of the box there was missin...

fair enough, i havent tried updating it yet. However, it worked fine out of the box for me so not sure what your problem with temp was

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 5:53 PM

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I dont like it creating a new root directory too

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 6:10 PM

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left belfry fair enough, i havent tried updating it yet. However, it worked fine out of the ...

I checked it again so I don't throw spurious point of view :
by default it triggers temp file service on the whole satisfactory directory
I don't like that, it's cleaner to set the right of satisfactory directory directly

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and the fact you need steamcmd to create the package then install the package but can't update it without going manual maintenance overwrite mode (you loose benefit of having a package)
doesn't make much sense to me
I would call my aur package "satisfactory-server-servicing" or similar, and put steamcmd as a dependency
~~I would also put the same logic under steamcmd aur if I was making it~~ tough it self updates so it probably doesnt make much sense
(I plan to open an aur someday btw but I'm waiting a better email setup for managing an arch-Linux account)

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and I have a satisfactoryd-update.service

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 6:39 PM

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deep turret I checked it again so I don't throw spurious point of view : by default it trigg...

but apparently it's the only way to do it without setting uid ??

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then mb on that

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that's weird to me

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it would be cleaner to use an echo command instead of packaging a literal file though

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

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anyway, it could maybe be nice if I was creating a PKGBUILD for my setup

viscid scaffold Jun 26, 2023, 7:38 PM

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So was playing on my server and it randomly lost connection and now i respawn as a new character. I can't remove the buggy i was in or retrieve my items any way to fix or clear this?
https://streamable.com/92acgp

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 8:02 PM

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viscid scaffold So was playing on my server and it randomly lost connection and now i respawn as...

"I can't remove the buggy i was in or retrieve my items any way to fix or clear this?" what do you mean ?
also the other character is you in an other session, you have to wait it times out I believe

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in worse case you could get the .sav file and edit it with fiscit interactive map

chrome pumice Jun 26, 2023, 8:05 PM

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Try doing a manual save and load save. Should put you back into the first body.

smoky flicker Jun 26, 2023, 9:37 PM

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hello friendos, we got a server with 4 vcores and 16gig of ram. Everything is good server side but the server is getting giga lag spikes - any suggestions would be appriciated

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do we need to gib more cores?

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 9:47 PM

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smoky flicker do we need to gib more cores?

nope 4 is fine, 16g RAM is fine too especially for starting saves, are you sure that's the server that spikes and not the clients ?

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did you check autosave settings ?

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it usually spikes when saving

ocean terrace Jun 26, 2023, 9:50 PM

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Does the server update automatically and restart or is there amyting that the admin needs to do?

visual onyx Jun 26, 2023, 10:09 PM

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I usually close the server and manually update it

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might as well, next patch is over a month away anyway

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 10:09 PM

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ocean terrace Does the server update automatically and restart or is there amyting that the ad...

in a way it could automatically update with some fancy setup on the server machine, but that in itself require administration
so if you set it up yourself you can assume it doesnt update automatically

viscid scaffold Jun 26, 2023, 10:37 PM

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deep turret "I can't remove the buggy i was in or retrieve my items any way to fix or clear ...

There is a second me i would assume stuck in the buggy and i can't remove the buggy or get in it. I have waited for the character to timeout and it still hasn't been removed. I've also restarted the server.
https://streamable.com/bxr0n5

viscid scaffold Jun 26, 2023, 10:39 PM

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chrome pumice Try doing a manual save and load save. Should put you back into the first body.

Like this? or am i doing something wrong? https://streamable.com/5filb3

chrome pumice Jun 26, 2023, 10:46 PM

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Yes I don't use vehicles but that is how I get people to spawn back in the correct body's. Vehicles have been pretty buggy.

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 11:17 PM

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viscid scaffold There is a second me i would assume stuck in the buggy and i can't remove the bu...

you are on update 8 ? did you updated your server recently ? some fixes have landed for vehicles

viscid scaffold Jun 26, 2023, 11:26 PM

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deep turret you are on update 8 ? did you updated your server recently ? some fixes have lan...

Yeah i had just updated it when i got back after my first message still nothing though so i went in the interactive map and removed the vehicle and just said fuck it to the items i had :/

viscid scaffold Jun 26, 2023, 11:44 PM

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Just went to check if the body is still there...

deep turret Jun 26, 2023, 11:54 PM

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viscid scaffold Just went to check if the body is still there...

you can kill it, to recover the crate

viscid scaffold Jun 26, 2023, 11:55 PM

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I'll try that in 2 seconds i did smack it a bit but didn't seem to change but ill go beat the shit out of it now

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Success!!

safe plank Jun 27, 2023, 12:28 AM

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Now thats some space savings damn

viscid scaffold Jun 27, 2023, 12:43 AM

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Well twice i've had this issue now in 1 day... Character lost again have to go farm him after removing the vehicle. Think thats it for me till the server becomes more stable

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 2:31 AM

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deep turret I sometimes run kernels that are literally 2days old

and for instance that's exactly what is happening rn
the package still isnt officially published by archlinux though, not even on testing repository yet

alpine relic Jun 27, 2023, 4:38 AM

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so currently the dedicated server doesnt need 8G+ RAM anymore?

ocean terrace Jun 27, 2023, 5:42 AM

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Anyone getting a weird bug where the game loads and you can look around but you cannot move?

shadow meteor Jun 27, 2023, 7:31 AM

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shadow meteor Hi! Anyone knows how to change AutosaveInterval in last game version? Command fr...

Anyone knows that?

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:36 AM

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shadow meteor Anyone knows that?

Yes, you need to stop the server and while the server is stopped, change it in config

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In GameUserSettings.ini

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGGameUserSettings]
mFloatValues=(("FG.AutosaveInterval", 120.000000))

It's in seconds.
if you have existing mFloatValues, you separate as follows:

mFloatValues=(("some other setting", 123.450000), ("FG.AutosaveInterval", 120.000000))

shadow meteor Jun 27, 2023, 7:37 AM

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clear lagoon Yes, you need to stop the server and while the server is stopped, change it in c...

What command shall I use for it?

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Oh, thx a lot!

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:37 AM

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you can't change it using commands in U8 at the moment

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:43 AM

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alpine relic so currently the dedicated server doesnt need 8G+ RAM anymore?

memory use depends on your save size, amount of players, how far they spread out, etc. but you can get away with less RAM than in U7. I think you can still hit around 8-9GB on a large save

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:43 AM

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ocean terrace Anyone getting a weird bug where the game loads and you can look around but you ...

did you log out or timeout in a hypertube?

alpine relic Jun 27, 2023, 7:44 AM

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clear lagoon memory use depends on your save size, amount of players, how far they spread out...

k, because when U6 I was getting > 8g ram usage for a new save so I'm wondering if they optimized the ram usage after then

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:45 AM

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viscid scaffold Well twice i've had this issue now in 1 day... Character lost again have to go f...

Vehicles are a little buggy on dedicated server right now for U8, so I suggest avoiding them if you want to use it in U8. If you ever time out or disconnect, wait up to your configured timeout setting (usually 30 seconds by default) before logging back in. you get a new pawn if you log back in before the old one disconnects

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:45 AM

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alpine relic k, because when U6 I was getting > 8g ram usage for a new save so I'm wondering ...

it's specifically only gotten better in U8, presumably incidentally due to the new world partitioning system

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:47 AM

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Good morning everyone
today i have another problem to solve ^^

I just updated Server and Client but i cant join the server. I got the server running yesterday but i couldn had the chance to connect my client because of work and getting home late so i just tried it now with the new update and this comes up

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:47 AM

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smoky flicker hello friendos, we got a server with 4 vcores and 16gig of ram. Everything is go...

do you have a pretty large save by any chance? just like the client does in singleplayer, the server freezes while performing an autosave, default every 5 minutes. you can check how long saves take in the server logs

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:48 AM

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signal jasper Good morning everyone today i have another problem to solve ^^ I just updated ...

is -ServerQueryPort=15010 launch parameter set on your server?

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(if you're getting this while trying to connect on the server manager)

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:49 AM

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clear lagoon is `-ServerQueryPort=15010` launch parameter set on your server?

yes - because i run 2 servers (U7 and U8)

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so i used different ports

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i tried other ports too , just checked wich are still free on my root

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:50 AM

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do you run a firewall on that machine? did you allow port 15010 (and the other two ports) UDP inbound?

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:51 AM

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clear lagoon do you run a firewall on that machine? did you allow port 15010 (and the other t...

yes thats all clear , its an rootserver wich i use for a couple of games . all ports are clear and forwared

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:51 AM

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is it running on windows or linux?

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:51 AM

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debian linux

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:51 AM

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do you have a -multihome= launch parameter set?

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:52 AM

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no because i saw no use , is it necessery

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:52 AM

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if not, can you try setting it to -multihome=<server NIC ipv4> ? i.e. from ip -4 a

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:53 AM

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signal jasper no because i saw no use , is it necessery

there are sometimes issues if you don't set it and there's IPv6 addresses present on any of the interfaces

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:53 AM

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clear lagoon if not, can you try setting it to `-multihome=<server NIC ipv4>` ? i.e. from `ip...

okay ill try 👍 1 min

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:54 AM

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clear lagoon there are sometimes issues if you don't set it and there's IPv6 addresses presen...

you are kidding me - multihome was really needed ...

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it works now!

Okay i really would not think that this would be the solution 😛

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 7:56 AM

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when I'm bored enough I might at some point go and try to make ipv6 work on purpose XD

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but until then I'm not entirely sure why this breaks the server 😛

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but if it works it works 😄

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:59 AM

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clear lagoon when I'm bored enough I might at some point go and try to make ipv6 work on purp...

😎 😛

Thanks so Much Lena !

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 8:00 AM

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No problem 🙂 Good luck on Massage-2(A-B)b, pioneer!

ocean terrace Jun 27, 2023, 8:05 AM

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clear lagoon did you log out or timeout in a hypertube?

Nope, standing on the ground

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Seems to be some kind of latency issue

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Even though the ping is 3ms

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Fixed itself after restarting the game

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 8:05 AM

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you should be able to move once you log in unless your pawn is in a glitched state. have you tried rest-

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ah

ocean terrace Jun 27, 2023, 8:11 AM

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Seems to be a recurring issue

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Sometimes logs me in as a new player

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Then I have to go hunt my clone

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 8:47 AM

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ocean terrace Sometimes logs me in as a new player

It's when you log back in too fast, before the old session has timed out. wait for your configured timeout time / look at the server status and wait until the player count drops

smoky flicker Jun 27, 2023, 9:15 AM

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clear lagoon do you have a pretty large save by any chance? just like the client does in sing...

We’ve only just started the save 48 hours of game time! We get insane server lag when using hyper tubes as an example. (No one can craft or drag from their inventory while someone is tubing)

smoky flicker Jun 27, 2023, 9:16 AM

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smoky flicker We’ve only just started the save 48 hours of game time! We get insane server lag...

However we are running U8 so it could also be that

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 9:41 AM

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I don't think I've seen that before. are you using default settings? what's the server tickrate like when someone is using hyper tubes?

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 9:53 AM

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smoky flicker We’ve only just started the save 48 hours of game time! We get insane server lag...

hypertubes are also laggy on U7 dedicated servers. But without the crafting problem while someone uses it.

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 1:19 PM

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alpine relic so currently the dedicated server doesnt need 8G+ RAM anymore?

not when small save, my ~160h save hits 7.5GB

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16GB RAM still is safe
12GB still is recommended minimum
but you have room until big save

spare orbit Jun 27, 2023, 2:02 PM

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our 135h save takes around 4 gb ram

bleak saffron Jun 27, 2023, 3:50 PM

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Hello,
I have started playing Satisfactory again with a friend after a long time and rented a dedicated server from Shockbyte. At first everything was working fine, but when my friend tried logging in today after downloading an update he kept losing connection (I can still join). We have already increased the timeout time but to no avail.
Thanks in advance!

desert walrus Jun 27, 2023, 4:33 PM

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You also have to increase timeout on server side fot it to work

spark sinew Jun 27, 2023, 5:18 PM

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signal jasper hypertubes are also laggy on U7 dedicated servers. But without the crafting prob...

yeah they are, late game it lags so much you just die in the tube

remote wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 5:19 PM

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Trying to run as a service on my fresh ubuntu LTS instance and getting this error. Followed every step of the wiki doc to a T. Anyone know what this issue is?

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Nevermind, lol, I see part of the issue

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your_user

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Ok, fixed that line in the unit file for systemd but still getting an error. Its changed a bit though.

desert walrus Jun 27, 2023, 5:26 PM

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Why are you appending +quit? Been a hot minute since I messed with the dedis so I don't remeber

bleak saffron Jun 27, 2023, 5:26 PM

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desert walrus You also have to increase timeout on server side fot it to work

Thats what I meant

desert walrus Jun 27, 2023, 5:27 PM

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In that case might be a plethora of issues
What error does your friend get?

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 5:28 PM

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First night testing experimental u8 server. Damn its laggy ^^ 2 Players and the server consol is full of orange warnings ^^

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bleak saffron Jun 27, 2023, 5:29 PM

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desert walrus In that case might be a plethora of issues What error does your friend get?

"your connection to the host has been lost"

lilac juniper Jun 27, 2023, 5:31 PM

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If anyone knows how to integrate Satisfactory into Discord please let me know where I can find that information. At this point if Satisfactory could post the number of players on a Dedicated server would be awesome! Thanks

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 5:59 PM

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desert walrus Why are you appending +quit? Been a hot minute since I messed with the dedis so ...

so it quits after updating

desert walrus Jun 27, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Ah yeah that makes sense

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 6:18 PM

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steamcmd have its own interactive mode otherwise

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:19 PM

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is there anything i can do so i have better performance on the u8 server ? its really laggy ^^ Server is chilling at 2% -10% cpu and under 10%ram , so its not an performance issue ^^ console is full of warnings ^^

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:29 PM

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signal jasper is there anything i can do so i have better performance on the u8 server ? its r...

this game is all about single core speed so if you playing on like an old xeon or anything that is not new with high enough IPC then you will experience rubber banding issues etc.. i been running on a 3950X and i dont have any laggy issues.. beside the game being buggy with cars etc but thats something else..

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:30 PM

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yes i know , but on u7 i dont have any problems on my dedicated server . its a multiplayer problem.

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solo also no problem on u8

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:32 PM

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well then that a particular problem with your setup... but to answer your question no there is nothing you can do to increase performance on the server side beside changing network quality (which i dont think does anything imo) or change tick rate you can try that.. but i haven't change any of those and i dont have any laggy issues and playing with 4 players on the server.. it all depends on your set up

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:34 PM

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sorry im pretty sure its not my setup.
When i or my buddy laggs ingame i see alot of warnings in the server consol - like audio not found etc (see screenshot above) so i guess there is something wrong with the game serverside.

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and again , do you play u7 or u8 ?

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u7 is running like butter

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:34 PM

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i see the same thing all the yellow warn dont mean anything they been there forever now

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:34 PM

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tickrate is something i can check

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:35 PM

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im on update 8

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:35 PM

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and i just shutdown my second server instance running u7 - maybe it helps . lets wait a couple of minutes and see the performance , maybe thats the reason

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:36 PM

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well if your running two satisfactory server on an old CPU then yeah that would cause the issues...

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:36 PM

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not and old cpu 😛

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but it looks like it doesnt change much :/

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:37 PM

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here are my specs and no issues so far even with two servers running update 8 but i also isolate them with docker so i choose what thread they run on

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:37 PM

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but the consol really prints out some weird warning 😄

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:37 PM

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yeah that been a thing since EVER i ran dedicated server since they been release and those warning have always been there

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im southercali if you want i can host the save for you on my server and you can test it yourself but if your in the UK like most people are in here then latency will be an issue lol

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:39 PM

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loud minnow yeah that been a thing since EVER i ran dedicated server since they been release...

its our first run since they brought out the dedicated server. So the Satisfactory Ded server is new for me ^^

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:39 PM

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loud minnow im southercali if you want i can host the save for you on my server and you can ...

Ah thats a little far away 😄 Im Central Europe ^^

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:40 PM

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yeah figure everyone on here is usally from europe lol

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:44 PM

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Yes cpu is '14 but single core perf. is not much lower.
Its one my best running machines for over 6years (last restart 4 years ago 😂 )

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but its weird that u7 dont make any problems but u8 does ... I just updated it today with todays exp. update. Maybe this was the cause ? Did you try it with your friends today with the current update

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but , now after 10 minutes we see a little bit less lags. Maybe it was because of the second server.

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:54 PM

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they did change a lot comapre to update 7 how the world is loaded etc.. but im pretty sure is your cpu IPC is not fast enough to run more than 1 from what i been reading.. you might have the ram to run it but CPU is almost a decade old now

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yeah we have i mean the game is still buggy like with the car issues.. and having duplicate characters etc... but is satisfactory server never get any love lol..

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:56 PM

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loud minnow they did change a lot comapre to update 7 how the world is loaded etc.. but im p...

dont do cpu shaming 😄 Its my workhourse ^^ Its runns so much stuff but i get your point :p

hmm yea i guess the time will tell

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 6:57 PM

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signal jasper dont do cpu shaming 😄 Its my workhourse ^^ Its runns so much stuff but i get yo...

and if your running on a VM you get even more a performance hit i run it docker so i can limit the resource is uses or set it to run on my fastest core on the CPU.. but hey man i dont CPU shame is just facts lol..

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 6:59 PM

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loud minnow and if your running on a VM you get even more a performance hit i run it docker ...

it was just a joke ^^ i know its old but it was never a gaming server , my whole company runs on it , and alot of other stuff ^^ and because its running so brave i install some gameservers when i have the motivation to play again ^^

No VM , just pure hardware

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but what i just found out ... regardless of the meaning of errors. Everytime one of the players lagg on the server this warning spams around 10times

[2023.06.27-19.00.12:224][966]LogAkAudio: Warning: UAkGameplayStatics::StopActor: Could not retrieve audio device.

only when one of us gets a lag spike for around a second

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 7:02 PM

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signal jasper it was just a joke ^^ i know its old but it was never a gaming server , my whole...

yeah for gaming server is more about IPC and RAM i always see people on here complaining about rubber banding lag when saving the world etc.. all of that has to do with people playing old xeons with low clocks but high core counts.. or playing on payed server that have the same issue old xeon with low IPC compare to anything new..

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yeah there is an issue with the audio deivce i see it too but if the serve is running then ignore them..

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that how is ALWAYS been since they got release if you see yellow warning ignore them if the server is running

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you can see on here is that game is still very single threaded heavy.. but i would see my whole CPU it would be less than 5 percent.. but as you can see satisfactory still love that single thread speed... so if you want to make the best satisfactory server 7800X3D 64GB+ ram and you have the best gaming server out there for hosting lol...

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:12 PM

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loud minnow you can see on here is that game is still very single threaded heavy.. but i wou...

Ah no i dont care about the best satis server , i would never giveup my workhorse - too much work is in there^^ just was wondering why u8 is so much different then u7 and then i see the warnings wich i dont have at u7 and so on i was wondering whats up ^^

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loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 7:33 PM

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Lol yeah I get that I was trying to point out a rig that would be perfect for just game hosting..

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 7:33 PM

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signal jasper

I bet you would see a single core spike up when players are connected if you look at it long enough lol

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:40 PM

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loud minnow I bet you would see a single core spike up when players are connected if you loo...

believe me or not , i have it on all the time because of the laggs currently , there was no single spike over 40% - and we are currently 2 players active playing

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 7:40 PM

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loud minnow Lol yeah I get that I was trying to point out a rig that would be perfect for ju...

for a game hosting that would be really nice , you right

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 8:02 PM

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signal jasper believe me or not , i have it on all the time because of the laggs currently , t...

I Believe you but you also have to take into account IPC, Memory bandwidth as your running DRR3 there are so many variables.. but if you tried everything you can do then is just hardware age and satisfactory DS is pretty heavy to run to have a smooth experience from what I’ve see

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 8:43 PM

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just wanted to throw in my cent that processor architecture/ipc really does matter, especially for applications that rely heavily on a single thread (i.e. satisfactory simulation loop)
I had it on a Xeon E5-1650 v3 which is positively ancient by now and a 3MB save started clocking in at about 12-13 seconds to complete. at that point I switched to a ryzen 3600 which dropped it the same save to 7s, and now at 8.5M it's still only just under 11s. tick rate is much more stable still

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had a stopover on a server running a Xeon E3-1270 v6 but that's not really worth talking about

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cpu cache is probably important too

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 8:47 PM

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^^^ And that’s what A LOT OF people don’t understand…

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Everything matters IPC/architecture/ cpu cache/ core clocks/ ram speed, bandwidth etc all of that matter in terms of performance

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But my main point was that from what I’ve seen on here all the time is people that are complaining about rubber banding, or lag issues, or train or belts rubber banding etc is mainly people who are running the server on old hardware or rented services with old hardware.. and if you did everything you can and still having issues like that then is most likely hardware age

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 8:58 PM

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yeah my existing machines weren't really intended for videogame servers so once I started noticing issues I just moved it up to the newest boy I had till I got a new one spun up XD

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and a lot of them cheap hosting providers use these ancient second-hand or third-hand dedicated dogpoo that got decommissioned five years ago out of an enterprise environment

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 9:01 PM

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🙌

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:07 PM

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signal jasper dont do cpu shaming 😄 Its my workhourse ^^ Its runns so much stuff but i get yo...

the thing I believe is also the game as been optimized for current gen architectures, the engine too and it has been optimized to work with latest helper library I think also, having that much uptime I believe you run older libraries as well, which may not help either

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there was a time were server cpu had only 1 to 3 MB of cache, now latest consumer cpus have like 75MB, that's another story for instance

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same with ram bandwidth

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ram latency have only dropped by nearly half time through 3 DDR generations
but bandwidth have grown to like 8 times the throughput

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cpus are monsters compared to old gens

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latest ryzen is able to push 8 operations in a single pipeline/thread every cycles

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and it goes up 5GHz

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 9:12 PM

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All my Systems gets a routine update every month so im not on the oldest liberies , but i get your point.
I just dont have the needs to restart it. Its my root for my small company (homepage, services ,etc) , friends , and some projects. Everything runs fine. I hostet over 20game server of the latest games betweend 2019-2023 and never had any problems like now in u8 satisfactory , so i think its normal when i ask if there is maybe something other the problem then my hardware.

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But i get it , its the hardware 👍

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:14 PM

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of course, I mean after that long running maybe a restart could refresh some stuff, .. or break everything because maybe a lot of your services are not tested against host restarting then

signal jasper Jun 27, 2023, 9:16 PM

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call me old , but with this machine i really live by saying

never touch a running system 😂

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most of the services i did has an autostart after crash etc , but i think so too that most likely some of them wont start hehe but thats where the fun begins

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:21 PM

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dependency cycles

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can still be dodged when crashing

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but not when starting

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as an example I had a socket streaming service that was giving sockets to dns services, but it was also doing dns requests to connect at the start

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it runs fine with cache when some of them crash

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but when everything had to start, I had dns failed because no socket and socket failed because no dns

stone lion Jun 27, 2023, 9:25 PM

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can i ask for help with an issue?

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 9:25 PM

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signal jasper All my Systems gets a routine update every month so im not on the oldest liberie...

And yeah you are correct most dedicated server like for other game are pretty light.. I just think this game requieres a new cpu to run smoothly.. why because they probably havent optimized them…and like they say still DS is Very experimental so that’s another big reason why is so heavy to run imo

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:25 PM

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dontasktoask

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:27 PM

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stone lion can i ask for help with an issue?

ask for help directly, otherwise people can't successfully help you, and messaging you messages like I'm doing is still needing additionnal time from us all

stone lion Jun 27, 2023, 9:28 PM

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ok so where's the issue , my game won't start , at first it said i don't have enough Video Memory to run the game (which is impossible , I am running a 1080 card) i managed to fix it but now every time i try to run a save it just freezes and crashes to desktop with no error

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my drivers are up to date and i did verify files

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im running out of things to check before re-installing the game

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:31 PM

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is it a laptop or a desktop ?

stone lion Jun 27, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Desktop

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:31 PM

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also are you sure you are talking about video ram ?
because dedicated server doe not need video

stone lion Jun 27, 2023, 9:32 PM

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That's what it said not enough video memory

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:33 PM

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looks like you are talking about the game not the server, which is just a bit further up in the channel list #satisfactory-experimental

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or you really mean the server ?

stone lion Jun 27, 2023, 9:33 PM

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i mean the game

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:34 PM

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if you dont use a dedicated server then #satisfactory-experimental is a better channel to help you

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oh, you did go into it first

loud minnow Jun 27, 2023, 9:36 PM

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Lol yeah it seems like no other channel on this whole discord provide support by people they just talk about the game and show thing off LOL only we do I guess LOL

hasty tangle Jun 27, 2023, 9:41 PM

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premium support in here; fixed my issues for sure - now I just hang out to see if I can help now and again 😄

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oh and I wait for my satisfactory patches to download heh

slate heron Jun 27, 2023, 9:45 PM

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Hi yall, I put in several hours with a friend but they dont wanna play anymore are there any public servers to tag in and help?

deep turret Jun 27, 2023, 9:47 PM

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there is the #looking-for-group-old channel with form that takes a line about "- local host multiplayer
- 24/7 dedicated server" choice

slate heron Jun 27, 2023, 9:49 PM

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thanks 🙂

remote wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 11:11 PM

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Anyone know if there's any automatable tools that provide players a live semi-always-up-to-date map of the server, similar to satisfactory-calculator.com? I could theoretically do a curl request against a discord webook and dump the most recent autosave into discord and have them individually upload to that site for a map if they want, but wondering if anyone has built out any automatable solutions where they just go to a URL or whatever.

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Surely such a tool would only sync every X minutes or whatever, that's fine.

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 11:13 PM

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isn't SCIM running entirely client side though?

remote wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 11:13 PM

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To my knowledge for that website, you still have to go upload the save file every time

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I'm talking about this site here: https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

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Where you can see not only your builds, but resource nodes and other stuff

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 11:14 PM

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yes. it's running entirely client-side still. source code is over at https://github.com/AnthorNet/SC-InteractiveMap
you're just loading the save into the web app

remote wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 11:15 PM

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Ah, cute. Thanks! I'll poke around with this

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 11:16 PM

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yes, just keep in mind that people loading the url will just be downloading the save from your server and loading it into SCIM on their local computer. depending on the bandwidth of your server, how fast the user's computer is and how large the save is (SCIM gets slow on large saves 😄 ) it might not be the best experience

remote wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 11:16 PM

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That's not a huge deal, the server is way overprovisioned for this use case lol

clear lagoon Jun 27, 2023, 11:16 PM

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it won't be anything like minecraft's dynmap

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good luck ^^ do let us know what the experience is like, I'm curious myself now 🙂

remote wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 11:19 PM

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I will! I'm a sysadmin IRL but this is not quite in my wheelhouse technically, but adjacent enough to skills I do use all the time, so I should be able to push through and get it working.

marble berry Jun 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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anyone have tips for cutting down all the client crashes while on servers?

alpine relic Jun 28, 2023, 3:21 AM

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driving vehicles onto the ramps kicks me out of the server every time?

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is it a known issue or just for me?

marble berry Jun 28, 2023, 3:28 AM

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vehicles and tubes cause a lot of issues

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basically going fast is a no-no

marble berry Jun 28, 2023, 3:59 AM

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I crashed in an explorer and getting back into the game and getting my stuff has been taking me an hour.

signal jasper Jun 28, 2023, 5:01 AM

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marble berry basically going fast is a no-no

thats true

deep turret Jun 28, 2023, 5:03 AM

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remote wyvern I'm talking about this site here: https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interac...

I believe you could run the code into a nodjs app server-side directly
here you are inviting people to modify their saves and re-upload it, which is not very fair

proven carbon Jun 28, 2023, 7:24 AM

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I've been struggling to launch a dedicated server on experimental using my Steam Deck, I cannot for the life of me figure it out, even after straight up purging the system of anything got to do with a satisfactory dedicated server. It keeps saying it's finding deprecated files but I've scanned my entire system and the folders it complains about don't even exist.

It worked previously before experimental, though I only used it for a short time then

deep turret Jun 28, 2023, 7:26 AM

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proven carbon I've been struggling to launch a dedicated server on experimental using my Steam...

there are a lot of warnings etc.. that are not the problems

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there are always these warnings, because it's a cut down version of the game, so lot of the files effectively are missing but not needed

proven carbon Jun 28, 2023, 7:27 AM

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lemme boot my SD back up and I'll have a look through everything that seems relevant

deep turret Jun 28, 2023, 7:28 AM

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how much free ram do you have ?

proven carbon Jun 28, 2023, 7:28 AM

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This is the only thing my system is running, and again, it has worked previously

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deep turret Jun 28, 2023, 7:29 AM

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the reliable way is to check htop

proven carbon Jun 28, 2023, 7:30 AM

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god I wish I knew what that meant

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Also, I can't tell if it's crashing or if something else is going on, because the system monitor says that UnrealServer-Linux-Shipping is using 465.5MiB memory and the game client server browser doesn't say the server is offline

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However, it gets permanently stuck saying Server name pending, and then after a while gives me this popup

deep turret Jun 28, 2023, 7:33 AM

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oh

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so it doenst crash

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then it's just a matter of network setup

proven carbon Jun 28, 2023, 7:33 AM

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It's completely unchanged to how I've done it previously

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(note the local ip)

deep turret Jun 28, 2023, 7:34 AM

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yep but u8 dedicated server have currently a network bug

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(copypast)
I recommend using -DisablePacketRouting -multihome=YourServerLocalIpAddress
(in the server starting script arguments at the start)

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as long as you have the 3 ports opened in firewall it should be fine

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make sure to get the server local ip though

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you can try with 0.0.0.0 instead (bind any)

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but I'm not sure it works as great