dedicated-servers

[marble berry]

that seems to be the case. glad I asked before spending money on hardware

[deep turret]

what do you mean "that's a shame" no application scaled with RAM directly performance wise, you have enough or you dont have enough, having more RAM will only make you able to have more stuff running

[cold pewter]

Fortunately I already have the hardware; bare metal IRL server sitting in my living room, that we already use to host a 100-slot server for PZ. I have like 40GB of RAM leftover and was thinking of firing up a dedi for this game too >.> Might still do it anyways, even if there's issues.

[marble berry]

if you don't have enough, it might go into virtual memory or swap more often though

[deep turret]

it works, it just isnt the priority for the game devs (with good reasons), and udpate 8 is coming soon making it a bit more unstable on experimental at least

[cold pewter]

Not entirely true; as stated above, I already run a 100-slot server for PZ. The PZ game server is much happier and has less de-sync issues, with more RAM.

[deep turret]

which means it was limited

[marble berry]

I don't even know what PZ is

[deep turret]

somehow

or doesnt manage its ram usage good enough

[cold pewter]

Most hosts/servers run that game with like 16GB, even though the recommended is 1GB per two players; most people only commit about 1GB per like... 4 players. Throwing more RAM at it fixes this issue. I was simply wondering if Satisfactory is the same in that way or not; seems to not be the case.

[deep turret]

if your question is scaling with game size and number of player

then no, satisfctory dedicated server doesnt scale with number of player

[cold pewter]

That is a much better way of explaining my question, yes lolz.. thanks

[deep turret]

it does scale a bit with size of server though, but only a bit (from 9.5GB to like 14.5GB max)

[cold pewter]

All good stuff to know; I looked around the wiki and it never really said anything about that one way or another, so figured I would ask. 👍

[deep turret]

it is supposed always keepin under 16GB

it is using flat RAM loading ressources

so it pretty much use all the RAM from start, and then dont really increase with use

(all the RAM it needs)

[cold pewter]

Okay, so committing 24GB to it would be more than sufficient, and likely future-proof it for future updates (assuming a possible minor RAM requirement increase)?

[deep turret]

yep I believe

[marble berry]

larger save file and mods will increase RAM for sure

[deep turret]

16GB may still be enough for a long time already though

[cold pewter]

Eh... it's a 96GB server; I have the extra to spare, so I may as well. I will def keep that in mind though, if I find a third game to put MP on that needs those extra few gigs haha

Thanks guys for the info! ❤️

[deep turret]

yw

[desert walrus]

There are no mods on dedis

[marble berry]

I thought I had done it before, but now that I think about it, that was actually Valheim

I've been avoiding mods for this game. it seems pretty damn good as vanilla. ARK however was trash the way the devs set it up so I had to mod it all over the place.

[naive terrace]

we are making a new server due to owner being lazy.... whos best hoster?

like website sorry

we had nitrado but thats the one thats giving us issues is there a better one?

[desert walrus]

Best option really is to self-host

[naive terrace]

I dont believe we have that option

or at least idk how that works

[desert walrus]

There's a guide on the wiki if you want to learn more about it

All you really need is a pc with relatively good single-threaded performance

!wikisearch dedicated+server

[rancid ether]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Search?query=dedicated+server

[quartz shore]

I found an easy way to set up a dedi server with WindowsGSM, all-you-can-eat need is the Satisfactory plugin, not I have a spare pc and extra copy of the game on it so for me it was quite easy. Not sure exactly how much you need. All I know is, WindowsGSM made it a lot easier to setup. Edit - I self host and my server is 24-7.

[naive terrace]

So we have a new server, its online... but in the game it says offline.. wtf is this

[deep turret]

and enough ram

[deep turret]

extra copy of the game ?

[quartz shore]

So I have two steam accounts and when the game went on sale I got 2 copies, and started to play around trying to make a dedi server. With a lot of failures, I seen in another discord that someone suggested this program so I tried it out and it worked a lot better, so the pc with the server, I use that copy as my ‘admin’ account. For easy access, since it never gets turned off unless I need updates.

[deep turret]

dedicated server doesn't need account
so it doesn't need game key

[fluid temple]

Is there any way to decrease desync issues? I tried increasing the max tick rate to 60, and that seemed to help slightly but still, vehicles can be very iffy and belt animations are bad at best lol

I don't think it's a server performance issue, I'm very rarely getting single cores going to 100% utilization. 24 gb of ram, also.

[deep turret]

these things currently never really sync perfectly on dedicated server games
you may alleviate the problem a bit by setting network settings though
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Multiplayer#Temporary_lag_solution

Here for more info on dedicated server's specifics
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files

[fluid temple]

Should that be done on the host or client side? I was in the engine.ini file yesterday playing with the tickrate so I'm familiar there lol

[deep turret]

it need to be done both on server and client side

[fluid temple]

Gotcha. Thanks! I look forward to giving it a try.

[deep turret]

for setting the network profile of the server you have to go in the server management 'console' tab
and use this command :
FG.NetworkQuality 3

" Sets the network configuration for the game server.

3 is equivalent to the "Ultra" setting in the game client. "

[fluid temple]

Okay I feel really stupid asking this, considering I got the server running with minimal issues lol. But I can't seem to figure out the console tab. I click on that tab, but I just get a blank screen. No window opens, no places to input commands, it's just blank. What am I missing?

I'm running it off Linux, if that makes a difference.

[finite scroll]

Hey guys, I'm trying to set up a dedicated server for the first time and I'm having trouble locating the server save folder

this is all thats in AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

Windows 11

[deep turret]

are you in the game's dedicated server manager ? on your server connection panel ?

it really is a satisfactory thing, I'm not talking about hosting console and the like

currently dedicated servers don't support direct commands at all

[fluid temple]

Yes, the in game console under server management. I've seen quite a few commands that can be sent there but I can't figure out how to get it to work lol

Oh my God I'm an idiot lmao

Spent all day in the terminal on Linux, was expecting it to start at the top.

Ignore me 🤣🤣🤣

[tough tundra]

you're not the first 😉

[fluid temple]

Atleast there's that lol

[fluid temple]

You should be able to load your saves off of the server manager in game.

[deep turret]

is that the machine your dedicated server is running on ?

[finite scroll]

Yes

So I'm using the server manager now but I can't connect to the server

[deep turret]

did you started it once ?

[finite scroll]

Yes its open

[deep turret]

maybe it create the folder when you are creating your first dedicated server game

how are you trying to connect ?

you run the game on the same machine as the dedicated server ?

[finite scroll]

Yes

[deep turret]

then you can connect to it using localhost normally

Address: localhost
Port: 15777

[fluid temple]

Oh that's cool, I didn't know that was an option

[finite scroll]

Still not connecting

[deep turret]

it's only an option if its on the same machine

[fluid temple]

Ohhhh. Makes sense.

[deep turret]

localhost is the so called "loopback address" it is a connection address for communications that never leaves the host, as it is named

[deep turret]

are you sure the dedicated server is running ?

[fluid temple]

So basically, if captain smoker can't connect to his server using localhost, his server really has to be not running

[finite scroll]

I got it, sems like I had to restart the server tool

thanks guys

[fluid temple]

I had to do that on my first boot too. Seemed to hang at "activating" the service. Rebooted and everything came alive. Was a beautiful thing

[deep turret]

if you want to check if the server is running you can follow that :
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Checking_Listening_UDP_Ports_on_Windows
(in PowerShell)

[finite scroll]

I got the server running and I'm playing on it but my friend can't join

He's adding my IP in the server manager and it just says it can't connect

[deep turret]

1. make sure you are giving them your current (server's machine's) public ip
   . (you can use my message linked above as reference for quick bloatless ip checking)

2. make sure your server machine have opened UDP ports in its firewall settings

3. make sure the router: have the UDP ports forwarded to your server machine (for ipv4 x.x.x.x looking addresses) or ports open in its own firewall for your server machine (for ipv6 abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd looking addresses)

.

(my hot blood rambling about discord ui problems)

I have to put 2 spaces after the first paragraph for discord to put the next paragraph on a newline 
wtfh
is now newlines considered a blackmagic complicated text feature ?
```#discord-text-rendering-spaghetty-ultra-9.149.3000

[finite scroll]

Smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ I didn't save the port fowarding I did on my router in the beginning

It's working now

[deep turret]

nice

[finite scroll]

Very much appreciated

[deft tartan]

Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogWorld: UWorld::CleanupWorld for Persistent_Lighting, bSessionEnded=true, bCleanupResources=true
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogWorld: UWorld::CleanupWorld for Persistent_Exploration_2, bSessionEnded=true, bCleanupResources=true
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogWorld: UWorld::CleanupWorld for Persistent_Exploration, bSessionEnded=true, bCleanupResources=true
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogStreaming: Display: Suspending async loading (1)
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:591][182]LogStreaming: Display: Resuming async loading (0)
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:592][182]LogExit: Preparing to exit.
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:612][182]LogDeviceProfile: Device profile begin destroy: [0x7f38ad0e9280] Linux
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 UE4Server-Linux-Shipping[7507]: LogOnline: Error: OSS: Leaderboards Interface Requested
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 UE4Server-Linux-Shipping[7507]: LogOnline: Error: OSS: Leaderboards Interface Requested

When I try to stop the server using in-game console to make it restart, it gets stuck on these two error commands and never seems to restart. Does anyone know a fix?

Doesn't seem to restart because it seems to fail to shut down.

[royal dove]

It is probably late, or i am confused; but the dedicated server is started; opened UDP port 15777, 15000, 7777 to FactoryServer and/or UE4Server-Win64-Shipping.exe but still getting the server is offline in Satisfactory EA. (Running via STEAMCMD via commandline: To install: steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta public validate +quit and then run it via .\FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended Server is a Windows 2022 With a Ryzen CPU in it. Server does not seem to give any errors. Or CoffeeStain broke it. :p

Ow and the client is on Epic.

[deep turret]

how are you trying to connect to it ?

[royal dove]

Ingame latest EA release. but i think i tracked it down, port 7777 does not seem to respond. (testing with PortQuery) UDP exits with return code 0x00000002.

[deep turret]

you didnt tell me how you are trying to connect, you just told me what game client you use

where is the server machine from you, and what kind of address are you using

[royal dove]

Server is in a datacenter, can connect to it via RDP and a Minecraft server is running on it without any problems. And how: Via a computer with internet :p

[deep turret]

you are using a dns address or a direct address ?

[royal dove]

Direct

Is fixed IP

[deep turret]

the same as you use for your minecraft server ?

[royal dove]

Yes, same for minecraft, and the RDP, checked for minecraft if it uses the same port but it does not. Also tried with the minecraft server off but same result.

As far i am aware port 25565 is not used for Satisfactory.

[tough tundra]

you mention port 7777. Have you tried connecting on 15777?

[deep turret]

if you tried pocking directly at the udp ports with a scan software it probably crashed the server
make sure the server is restarted and running fine before doing further test

[deep turret]

(nmap crashs it for instance)

your host provider doesnt have any kind of in-data-center firewall that you need to open too ?

[royal dove]

I changed the firewall settings in Windows, and that was the only thing needed for Minecraft to work. So i dont think there is one.

[deep turret]

ok
you made sure it is UDP rules and not only TCP ones ?

do you have enough free RAM on your server machine when you start the server ? (12GB)

[royal dove]

It is a Ryzen 7 5800X and 64GB Ram so i think it can do it 🙂

[deep turret]

I know some of these question may sound too obvious, but too often people overlook some of the simple things

[deep turret]

but it has enough free RAM ? it isnt overloaded by something else ?

[royal dove]

Yeah and i do think i am overlooking something, only the something bit. No only 7% in use

CPU is sleeping at around 2/3%

[deep turret]

"opened UDP port 15777, 15000, 7777 to FactoryServer and/or UE4Server-Win64-Shipping.exe" you mean when you check like this ? :
https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Checking_Listening_UDP_Ports_on_Windows

[deep turret]

as Rebelius said, you connected with 15777 port in the game client right ?

[royal dove]

Correct got the result as shown on that page and yes used port 15777.

Hmm, this error comes along:

[deep turret]

that's the last line ?

[royal dove]

Yes, and then it goed back requestion API things from Epic. as a warning.

Feels like i missed a part of the installation? (?)

[deep turret]

I will try launching it to see what it says

I remember having these error messages the first time I launched it, but I didnt have it now

did you try to completly restart the dedicated server ?

the first launch are a bit more chaotic as it is setting up itself

[royal dove]

Yes, even removed everything, steamcmd and the dedicated server and started all over.

Yes, i did see some installation from Epic while it was launched for the first time, but never seen it again, i am going to think it is related to that. (But i am unsure how it was called...)

[deep turret]

from epic ?

you said you used steamcmd

[royal dove]

Yes installed with steamcmd but first time it started the server as mentioned in the wiki, it also installed something from Epic before launching FactoryServer...

Sorry about beeing vague...

[deep turret]

I mean the dedicated server is basically a stripped satisfactory game focused on hosting
so it does load some epic api like when you use the client from steam (I know you cant really experience that though)
it is a steam x epic game

but that is still the dedicated server on its own

you really get nothing from your client ?

did someone else try to connect ?

note the client does not currently retry to connect, so if it failed to connect once you may have to relaunch the game for it to try to connect again (or re-adding the server, or clicking on another server then trying back maybe)

[royal dove]

I goign to try it tommorow getting late and need to work early; thank you for the suggestions though. 🙂

[deep turret]

I wish you good

[quartz shore]

reguarding the LFG channel, i know a bot handles this. how often can i post in this channel, i dont see any rules about posting daily or weekly, i dont want to flood the channel with posts is there a way to seperate them from dedi servers and local host, have search perameters? i would like to see how crazy my server can get.

[deep turret]

lfg channel message have a line with "local only" or "dedicated server"

I don't get your question

[sonic ibex]

Hi all, Any fix for the random crashes and when you load back in your old body just sits there like a offline player?

[barren mortar]

Turn creatures to passive to help with the crashes. I haven't had one since I did that

[sonic ibex]

all good will try that and see if it works

[stone olive]

anyone have any experience with using satisfactory server with cosmic guard or some other kind of ddos protection?

[velvet prism]

can I run the server on a non-experimental client?

or must everyone opt into the experimental version in order to connect

[barren mortar]

Everyone needs to be on the same version of the game (right now experimental and stable are the same)

[velvet prism]

oh ok no problem then!

wonder how Ryzen 5600X will handle it when playing other games simultaneously?

RAM is irrelevant for me

[vernal nimbus]

When update 8 launches anyone playing early access version won't be able to load the server as their be running different versions of the game so they would have to run the game on experimental aswell

[barren mortar]

Only if the server is set to be running the experimental version

[vernal nimbus]

Ye I confused myself reading his question 🤦

[velvet prism]

yeah I saw that they have one launcher for regular/experimental also

so that answers my question

thought the whole thing was an experimental feature to be released in update >=8

[vernal nimbus]

But the answer I gave would apply if the server is running on experimental when update 8 launches you would have to be playing on experimental to join the server until ea and experimental are again running on the same game version

[toxic pendant]

i have a server and i wanted to join but when i add ip and port it says server offline, any1 has an ideea what setting must be made? or an guide to setting up the server>?.

[barren mortar]

Are you accessing it from your own LAN or from outside your network?

[toxic pendant]

the server is hosted by an other site

so its outside of network

[barren mortar]

Then you will have to ensure the ports are forwarded correctly by the router/firewall on the server end

And ensure you're using the correct IP

[toxic pendant]

hm,m ok

[velvet prism]

I don't get how to get started on this thing

I installed it on Epic and when running it there's no options

how do I e.g put in the world save on it? how do I choose which world to host?

the wiki speaks about stuff like this

Insert the Session Name from step 1 into the server settings tab in Server Manager, press
but mine just opens a shell, idk where these esettings or anything would be?

does the server say which IP it's hosted on?

[barren mortar]

You do that from the in-game interface (load save, session, etc)

But you have to connect to the server first

If you're hosting it internally (on the same machine), localhost or 127.0.0.1 should work, if not you will need the IP address of the machine. An external host should have that info on some sort of configuration panel, if it's on another machine in your network, use its IP

[velvet prism]

yeah this is pretty much my progress so far

I opened ports on Windows firewall also

but when I try to connect to my exposed IP and port 15777, there's no server

I don't even know if the server is running correctly and what it's supposed to say

[barren mortar]

When you're connecting from your LAN, use the internal IP. Only if you're trying to connect from outside your network would you use an external IP

[velvet prism]

yes but I'm trying to connect as if I was a friend

I should still be able to connect using my external IP

or am I wrong on that?

[barren mortar]

That's going to be something with the router and IP loopback. It might be better to go to another network (or use a hotspot from your phone if available) to test that

[velvet prism]

ok I'll try to connect via localhost first and see what happens

and if stuff works I'll then have my friend try the external IP

alright seems that localhost worked indeed

so this is confusing, am I supposed to load a world via the game menu? is this a one time thing, am I free to close the game after?

[barren mortar]

Once you load the save, it's on the server. It will save at whatever interval it is set to, and when players exit the world. It will most likely pause when there are no players, unless it's set otherwise

[velvet prism]

welp server died and it no longer starts apparently

this is the last that I see

maybe I need to port forward I guess?

[barren mortar]

Not sure the NAT error is a real issue, but someone more knowledgeable would have to chip in there

[velvet prism]

seems to work after removing and re-adding the server in the game

[desert walrus]

Yeah, the service used for nat detection is currently broken so it always says tbd/ failed

[tough tundra]

my game will add both internal and external IP no problem, the external reports a little extra ping and a lot extra ping if I'm on VPN.

Interestingly the game seems to resolve DNS before adding the server, so if I try to add both the Public IP and satisfactory.example.com then it will not add two.

[echo path]

i have a friend who is trying to set up a satisfactory server, once he gets it up how do i join? do i need an epic acct?

[desert walrus]

No, just go to the server manager in your game and enter your friends public ip

[echo path]

ok (:

[hazy pebble]

Can someone explain what the epic games dedicater servers tool is supposed to be

[loud minnow]

samething what STEAMCMD is to steam

[hazy pebble]

I just wanna set up a dedicated server I'm not sure how

[desert walrus]

The software used to host a dedicated server

[loud minnow]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[hazy pebble]

Are those free though

[loud minnow]

server hosting is always free on your ownhardware

[hazy pebble]

So my machine has to be on for the server to be up and running

[loud minnow]

yes of course

unless you have another machine

like for me i have my main machine 5950X 128gb, 3090 etc. then i have my sever machine which was made from left over part from upgrading my main machine which is 3950X and 64Gb 3466 Ram kit no GPU and running linux

[hazy pebble]

Man this is confusing

[loud minnow]

well yeah server hosting on your own is more for like a hobby type thing and if you want to learn on hosting then google and youtube are your friends... if you want to just plug and play then find some provider for you.... i dont use any as they all suck imo but that just me

[hazy pebble]

Just seems a bit much when all I wanna do is play with like two other people

[desert walrus]

You can just use normal multiplayer then?

[hazy pebble]

real

[desert walrus]

wdym?

[vagrant dirge]

I just set up a new dedicated server using the experimental branch, whenever I try to launch it, it pulls up the console as one would expect, goes through the whole launch procedure, then it just stops. The console disappears and there's no service or process running in the task manager to indicate that the server is running.

Here's the command I use to launch:

echo Satisfactory server will now start.
cd C:\Satisfactory
.\FactoryServer.exe -NOSTEAM -log -unattended
echo If the server has successfully started, you may now close this dialogue.
pause```
(I know the echos and pause are unnecessary, it's just my preference to have them)

Here's a pastebin of my log:
https://pastebin.com/cZURXm73

Had to use a pastebin cause I'm running my server on a VM on a different machine. No crash log available.

The process also completely ignores the -nosteam argument.

[charred hound]

Hello, the mods are installed... the Ficsit-CLI, but the server doesn't have it, what needs to be done to make it work?

[vagrant dirge]

Dedicated servers do not currently support mods

[charred hound]

So how can I make it go everywhere? Does the game have to run on the current machine?

[vagrant dirge]

If you're trying to run a dedicated server, you can only run it unmodded.

The closest alternative to a modded dedicated server you can get at the moment is loading up the regular game on a different computer and logging in with a different steam/epic account then playing "normal" multiplayer. You'll have a random pioneer just sitting there AFK all the time, but you'll be able to use mods.

[charred hound]

then what is the CLI client for?

[vagrant dirge]

It seems to be a command line alternative to SMM. It's not for dedicated servers, it's for the actual game.

The source site for Ficsit-CLI doesn't say anything about dedicated server usage.

[charred hound]

singlepalyer/host max number?

[vagrant dirge]

Where are you seeing that?

[charred hound]

If I start a plain Single server as you wrote above, what is the maximum number of people who can connect? because my friend wanted to come in and there were 4 of us, can't there be more?

[vagrant dirge]

Oh! One sec.

[deep turret]

NAT detection is mostly a client game thing, dedicated servers need setup network anyway

so I believe it mostly always successfully fails for dedicated server

[deep turret]

I believe only some mods supports multiplayer though

[desert walrus]

In all my logs when I had a server it still failed...
I'm not sure how that's really relevant tbh

[deep turret]

that's what I meant : it's not relevant to dedicated servers

and it's probably why it fails for them

[vagrant dirge]

True though that may be, I wasn't about to go through the list of mods they had, not in this channel anyway, I took the conversation with them elsewhere, as it no longer belonged in this topic.

And on that note: have you got any input on my issue?

[barren mortar]

-nosteam isn't a valid command line flag for the server command https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Command_line_options

[vagrant dirge]

Oh... well shit, why do the logs say to use that when it fails to load the steam API? Anyway... I still had the same problem without using -nosteam.

[barren mortar]

Why don't you launch it with steamcmd? Any particular reason you don't want to do that? https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Windows

Or docker, I suppose. I don't have any experience running the server on Windows, though

[vagrant dirge]

I downloaded it through steamCMD...

I've never had much luck with docker on... well... anything really...

Thing is, I've had it working before, pre update 7, with update 8 just over the horizon, I'm trying to lay the groundwork for a fresh dediserv so that when the dediserv files are released, hopefully I'll just have to update the server with the SteamCMD command and be good to go.

[vagrant dirge]

I figured out what my problem was...

Had nothing to do with the server files or my scripts...

I just didn't provision enough disk space on the VM I was hosting it on... Gave it more disk space and now it's working...

[barren mortar]

Fair enough. Glad you got it figured out

[vagrant dirge]

Now I just need to get the networking done and set my DNS routing so my URL will work... 😅

[vagrant dirge]

As am I! I had just enough disk space to install it, but not enough to run it. lol

[patent fox]

My server is running but I can't see it online. I made it using pterodactyl eggs if anyone can help I would love some! Edit: fixed it

[limber gazelle]

I've just done this last week. Very satisfying 😛

[limber gazelle]

To clarify, it doesn't come up when you type your pterodactyl servers ip in the server manager on your client?

[patent fox]

Don't worry, the firewall was blocking it for some reason and it's working now

[vagrant dirge]

Indeed it is! Just waiting for my network admin to elevate my permissions so I can actually do it. Lol

[shell agate]

What would be the requirements for a server in satisfactory update 8 to run 5 players stably? And also the requirements to run 10 players, can anyone answer me?

[tough tundra]

Nobody can answer you. First requirement would be a time machine

[barren mortar]

We don't know how UE 5 will impact requirements

[sterile cedar]

Hey all, thought I may as well ask just to confirm "it's not just us". But basically - a mate and I have built a factory on a dedicated server, with the game having run around 9000 hours. Obviously the factory is now becoming very large, spread across the map all connected via trains, drones etc - with still plenty more to go. Our save file is now at around 14mb. In recent weeks - it's become unplayable. If we manage to get into the server, it either crashes or we get timeout errors.

We've tried playing around with the game.ini file on the server, and our own settings like the network quality toggle etc - but nothing is working. Reached a point now where we may as well not play anymore which is so frustrating.

I'm trying to work out is this "normal" as in a known issue, that the next update is expected to fix - or is it just us/our dedicated server host GTX? (CPU, memory, bandwidth, storage of the server all fine).

[barren mortar]

How much memory does your server have?

[sterile cedar]

Memory: 12GB
Hard Disk: SSD Enterprise Drive
CPU Clock Speed: 5.2Ghz+ (16 Cores\32 Threads) (OC Extreme Performance)
Disk Space: 100GB

Do other people constantly get this ? Clicking retry over and over then the server appears?

[barren mortar]

Depending on how complex your base is, that might not be enough. 16 GB is recommended for end-game complexity

[loud minnow]

Probably memory my guess as I’ve seen some really large save take more that 16GB but at that point you have to modified the config file to work anyways

[sterile cedar]

Can give it a try I guess thanks both.

[pliant sage]

Will update 8 fix dedicated servers?

And will there be mods for servers soon?

Or do I have to wait until 2026 or later for that to happen because the devs are "working on 'more important' stuff"?

[desert pendant]

Hello. I'm running a Satisfactory dedicated server on a Linux Debian 11 system. Unfortunately I can't connect to the server.

[barren mortar]

Your threshold is set too low. Try changing the network quality in your game settings, or if you're not running the server on docker I think you can go into the game.ini file and set the timeout thresholds there. Looks like it's currently set to 20 seconds (I think mine is 300)

[desert pendant]

Okay, yeah I've set the network quality of the game to ultra. It is a server in Pterodactyl

So it should be a Docker container

[loud minnow]

Devs care about the single player experience first they have even said it them self and no it actually going to be even more unstable according to devs in no mod support as yet either so don’t hold you breath..

[pliant sage]

Even MORE unstable?!

That's an outrage

but I guess that game development is game development

Slow and boring until it gets interesting (to us community members at least)

[desert walrus]

Not really
Dedis weren't even supposed to exist until a long time from now but enough people begged, plead, and whined that they released them as a very experimental feature

[pliant sage]

Well... They work QUITE well for "very experimental"

[desert walrus]

Indeed they do

[pliant sage]

I have NEVER seen ANY bad performance on any dedicated servers

NONE

[desert walrus]

That's your hardware's fault
There are three main crashes that affect dedis and a few minor bugs

[pliant sage]

The only thing I have noticed is the fact that on a single player save that someone gave me, my PC freezes for a good 1-3 minutes during autosaves (And regular saves at that)

I turned off autosaves because of that

[desert walrus]

Sounds like a slow pc
Even the biggest saves in existence save in under 5 mins

[pliant sage]

minor bugs are minor for a reason. No real reason to worry about them

[pliant sage]

I don't think so. I just got a new PC with a 1660 TI GPU, and Intel i5 9500F, and 16 GB RAM

[desert walrus]

Nice 👍
Not a bad system but hopefully you didn't pay too much for it

[pliant sage]

My PC is anything BUT slow 😎

[pliant sage]

nope. Only $300 😎

[desert walrus]

Ok, solid deal then

But 9500f will struggle on single-threaded perf and that's your biggest limiting factor in save time(really all performance in this game)

[pliant sage]

Why not use more threads?

Should be EZ, right?

[desert walrus]

This is the internet, so I'm having a hard time telling if you're sarcastic or ignorant because a bunch of your comments ate pretty bad

[pliant sage]

IDK. I don't know the signifance of "threads" in a CPU

IDK if they are important or not

[desert walrus]

Ok
Using more threads is not very simple

[pliant sage]

But I DO get the feeling that if a game is capable of utilizing multiple threads, lots of things will be faster and more efficient, right?

[desert walrus]

Pretty much
And this game can reliably utilize around 6

And your cpu has 8 if memory serves
But not thay fast

[pliant sage]

Okie ^^

[loud minnow]

im guessing this is just for hosting and your not playing on the same machine as that would cause lot of performance issues with those specs... if your just hosting on that pc then is fine... but i host mine on my second machine with a 3950X and 64Gb 3466mhz and dont have any performance issue when saving or playing on very large saves and my save are under 1 sec lol you can see my old post here my times #dedicated-servers message

[pliant sage]

nope

Btw, that is just for a Single player save game

I have 0 performance issues with playing ON dedicated servers as a player, not a hoster

I don't even have a hosting PC, lol

The PC that I listed the specs of is my best PC ^^

[loud minnow]

ohhhh i see that make sense... yeah this channel is for people who host or need help on hosting dedicated servers so yeah....

[pliant sage]

I know

We kinda got off topic, lol

[loud minnow]

yeah no worries.. yeah you will be fine connecting to server your pc dont matter for that if it can play the game it will be fine.. my main rig when i built it 2 years back would be consider power full for this game which is a 5950X,128GB 3600Cl16 ram kit, 3090, X570 creation motherboard now not so much but i also host on a second machine that was made from left over part upgrading my main rig lol

main rig

left over part pc lol runs the server 3950X 64GB 3466 Ramt kit X570 Master mobo and some gpu for other things runs linux

[slim grotto]

Very nice!

[pliant sage]

noice

What's the GPU in the secondary rig?

[loud minnow]

they use to be used for minig ETH back then now they dont do anything i just havent removed them lol

but the little X560 is just for display if i need it... the other one is 1060 minig card that just doesnt do anything now

this is a more current pic now with the old minig card removed

[slim grotto]

You could run a small media server like jellyfin and use the GPU for encoding.

[loud minnow]

yeah i have two of those 1060 mining cards but havent dont anything with them yet lol

better pic of the main rig

[slim grotto]

This is my server. Runs Ubuntu Server 22.04.2 LTS with Pterodactyl panel for running game servers and Jellyfin for my dvd collection.

Recently upgraded it with a Ryzen 5 5600G and 64GB of 3600MHz ram.

[loud minnow]

Very nice!!...

here is mine what is running

currently lol

[slim grotto]

Love it!

Here's my current rig after a PSU replacement.
Ryzen 7 5800x, EVGA 2080 Hybrid.

[loud minnow]

nice... very clean rig

i have one of those cases too lol

the pro 900

i have it my closet tho not being uses lol

[slim grotto]

Actually Pure Base 600.

[loud minnow]

is a little dustly and no i dont have a problem buying parts lol

i should transfer that server in that cheap case to this case but just been lazy about it lol

[slim grotto]

Yup don't have an issue buying parts either lmao

[loud minnow]

LOL i hear you brother i have the same thing lol

[desert walrus]

I have a random collection of old stuff but nothing usefull... unless you happen to need a pci three port firewire card
Then I can hook you up

[slim grotto]

I mean, I still have my old ipod that uses firewire...

Lord knows where it is lol

Well back to satisfactory.

[left belfry]

I have a GT 640 sitting in my closet because “what if i just need a video output for something” when i literally have 2 GPUS and a iGPU spread between my machines

[leaden hornet]

Do u need a good GPU and more than 16gbs of ram for a server?

[vagrant dirge]

You really don't need a GPU at all to set up a dedicated server. It can help, but it's not necessary as the dedicated server doesn't load any graphical assets (loaded only on the client device). You would want to prioritize your CPU selection over GPU. As for RAM: I give my VMs more RAM than is necessary, but 16 gbs should be sufficient.

[still gate]

hello pioneers, I just joined the server bc I have a little problem with my new installed dedicated server on Ubuntu 20.04, when I start the server it looks like it works perfectly, UFW is allowing all 3 ports, ss -plnu | grep UE output all 3 ports correctly, ports are correctly forwarded, but it shows as offline in the game. I used telnet on a local computer and on the server (127.0.0.1) and I can't access the 3 ports, I also tried ss -tlnp | grep 7777 but no output. Does someone knows why ?

[spring shore]

Is there an option to increase the draw distance?

[desert walrus]

That's all client side...
It's the exact same as single player

[spring shore]

kk

[sterile cedar]

Just thought I would say - we upped the RAM to 20gb. Think I got an extra 10 mins before another crash/timeout.

[limber gazelle]

Since ya'll are posting hardware. Here's THE BEAST

[barren mortar]

Needs more RAM 😛

[glad nest]

wøy, more soldiers with i7 4790 😎

[limber gazelle]

Noice. I desperately do need more ram but I can't bring myself to buy more ddr3 because I always think I'll make big upgrades in the future 🙂 well far future, have an unexpected expense coming up after today 😦

[eternal siren]

Probably going to get laughed at right here, but if you don't ask you'll never know, and you guys know your stuff so thought I would ask here first. Can I run a server from a VM from my main machine?

[dusky wedge]

Provided it's allocated the appropriate resources, no reason why not

[eternal siren]

How would i go about exposing it to the local network rather than the virtual one?

[shell elbow]

Hi,
I apologize if this has been asked, but I've been searching with no real answers.
We were renting a server and kept having issues where lines and pipes would turn invisible or stay blue. They were in the world in a way that they were obstructions, but not appearing to function. We also couldn't interact with them until we logged out and back in.
This happened repeatedly.
Has anyone found a fix?

[dusky wedge]

The term you'd likely find documentation on this would be "bridging" and how exactly you do that varies by VM software. General VM support is a bit out of scope for the channel

[eternal siren]

Thank you, I think I've set up properly. Just have to set up the server now.

[slim grotto]

Are you hosting the server on the same machine or a different one?

[deft tartan]

Reposting a problem I have with the server in case anyone knows what could be the cause:

Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogWorld: UWorld::CleanupWorld for Persistent_Lighting, bSessionEnded=true, bCleanupResources=true
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogWorld: UWorld::CleanupWorld for Persistent_Exploration_2, bSessionEnded=true, bCleanupResources=true
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogWorld: UWorld::CleanupWorld for Persistent_Exploration, bSessionEnded=true, bCleanupResources=true
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:560][182]LogStreaming: Display: Suspending async loading (1)
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:591][182]LogStreaming: Display: Resuming async loading (0)
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:592][182]LogExit: Preparing to exit.
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 FactoryServer.sh[7500]: [2023.06.05-18.28.55:612][182]LogDeviceProfile: Device profile begin destroy: [0x7f38ad0e9280] Linux
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 UE4Server-Linux-Shipping[7507]: LogOnline: Error: OSS: Leaderboards Interface Requested
Jun 05 18:28:55 debian-16gb-fsn1-2 UE4Server-Linux-Shipping[7507]: LogOnline: Error: OSS: Leaderboards Interface Requested

When I try to stop the server using in-game console to make it restart, it gets stuck on these two error commands and never seems to restart. Does anyone know a fix?

[slim grotto]

Hit ctrl+c to stop the server. Make note that any data not saved will be lost. Also you can't send commands through the terminal, needs to be done through the game client.

[deft tartan]

That is what I did, I sent an exit command through the game client. I don't want to have to connect to the server every time something goes wrong with the server to Ctrl+c, that is why I am looking for a fix or a workaround.

Because it defeats the whole purpose of using a service, could as well just run it using tmux in this case.

[slim grotto]

There isn't. The dedicated server is still in experimental. Certain things aren't ironed out yet.

[deft tartan]

The interesting thing is that it doesn't seem to be a problem for everyone, someone even mentioned some sort of a race condition

Maybe I'll try to run as a docker container though that is adding more to the complexity, for me at least

[slim grotto]

I use pterodactyl which uses docker containers to host game servers. I run into the same thing.

Although my server runs 24/7, it doesn't bother me.

[deft tartan]

Well, fingers crossed that it might be fixed in update 8. Otherwise I will have to improvise I guess or just let it be.

[slim grotto]

They actually said update 8 will most likely break dedicated servers. Only time will tell come Tuesday.

[deft tartan]

Though if running as service at least helps with restating from crashes, that still makes it worth it to run as service. Even if the damn attempts to make it restart through the client console fail.

[graceful flicker]

Hey guys.

I'm having trouble keeping my dedicated server running.

When we're on it works just fine. If we all disconnect, when someone wants to join the next day the server is 'offline', I have to manually load the last save before anyone can join.

This is kind of voiding the point of having a dedicated server up and running if people have to wait for me to load a save.

Does anyone have any feedback input or ideas I can try? It's being hosted using Nitrado

[desert walrus]

That sounds like a nitrado issue

Get in touch with their support

[graceful flicker]

Okay thanks, I wasn't sure if it was a 'feature' of the dedicated server.

I will reach out to them now.

[still gate]

Different machine, I have a win10 pc with the game on epic, and a server running on ubuntu 20.04

[hybrid pelican]

Hello, I'm seeking about how to change the hostility of creatures to retaliete on my dedicated server but I don't find any way to do this
Can you tell me please where is the config file please?

[deep turret]

for the RAM it depends of your servers load without the satisfactory dedicated server, the dedicated server itself can need up to 14GB of RAM which practically let only 1.5GB to the reminding server system, which may or may not be sufficient depending on your server setup

[deep turret]

what do you mean by telnet ?

[deep turret]

did you try to restart the dedicated server as well ?

a lot of rented servers overload their servers and even give too low RAM space to satisfactory dedicated server

[copper ruin]

telnet <myip> 7777

ENDERgastro is my alt btw

[deep turret]

why would you want to do that

[copper ruin]

To check if port is accessible

[copper ruin]

.

[deep turret]

telnet is not really built to test ports, also telnet uses TCP connections, here you want to test UDP ports

you can't really test udp ports that way

(TCP port testing rely on the TCP protocol responses for connection establishment, UDP does not have any connection establishment protocol)

[desert walrus]

That's done with the setting for the client

[barren mortar]

Wow, my server is not a fan of this truck path...deleted the path and the truck and redid it and it still won't run

[copper ruin]

Oh

I see

Looks like I’ll have to download satisfactory on my laptop and connect to my subnetwork

[shell elbow]

Yes, multiple times. It briefly resolves the issue.
The point about memory is valid and worth looking into.

[slim grotto]

So then the ip address you would need to enter is the one used for your server. An example is if your main pc is 192.168.1.25 and your server is 192.168.1.11, in game you would enter 192.168.1.11 for the address and leave the port 15777 alone. It then should show up. Though it will take a moment for it to connect.

[copper ruin]

The problem is that i have a not common network configuration, so my pc is on 192 and my server is on 172

Si i have to connect by public ip

I have port forwarded

Btw… do dedicated servers run update 7?

[barren mortar]

Currently, yes

[copper ruin]

Okey thx

[barren mortar]

When U8 comes out, it will depend on the server settings which version it runs

[molten sinew]

Hello,

I am running a dedicated server and am having some issues with random disconnects. Is this the correct channel to ask for help? Or should I post my question in the #1038092680493801533 ?

I am running a dedicated server. It is running inside a Docker container on Unraid.

I host a dedicated server. This is running in a Docker container on Unraid and works pretty well. The server tends to crash randomly multiple times a day. It seems to happen more frequently when we build or delte something, and especially when we use different materials. Like changing a metal foundation to concrete. The server just seems to reboot, and we get kicked after a few seconds.

I wonder if anybody knows how to change these timings or fix the error

I know that dedicated servers are very buggy, but am hoping that anyone knows how I can fix this. We have lost a couple of hours of work and have now gotten to the point that we logout to force the server to create a save after we have build something.

The serverhardware has 32GB of DDR4 ram and an I5 105000. The server load on the CPU is only about 15%, so there should be plenty of power left.

I found a thread on Steam where people were talking about changing these timings; https://steamcommunity.com/app/526870/discussions/1/4543572243352051143/?l=czech

I did take a look at the engine.ini file, but there were no settings in there that had anything to do with timings. My engine.ini file looks like this:

I did try to search for others with the same error, but found that most other reports talk about problems connecting. We seem to get kicked when building or dismantling things

[barren mortar]

Which Docker server do you have, and what phase of the game are you on?

And do you have creatures set to passive?

[loud minnow]

from what it seems it seems you know what your doing and the server is "working" the issue now is with the game but we all know here that DS for satisfactory are shit and they run like shit... all you can do it set up a script to auto restart the server is it crashes etc... so is back up and can play again...another thing you can try is setting wild life to passive... and dont use blueprints as that can crash the server also... so as you can see DS for this game is pretty bad and dev dont really care as they are focus on single player experience.. and dont get your hope up for update 8 if your playing on DS lol

[molten sinew]

I do not know what you mean with Docker server. My hardware runs Unraid and that has the option to install Docker containers. We are on the end phase of the game, but have had the crashes from the start.

The creatures have been set to passive, since we found that it crashed the Unreal engine if we didn't

[barren mortar]

Which container are you running? There are about a dozen

[molten sinew]

Ich777 makes a lot of containers on Unraid.

It seems that I can't post a link to the server

https ://hub.docker.com/r/ich777/steamcmd/

[raw spoke]

I run almost the same thing (docker on unraid, almost same hardware) and have the same exact issue.

Can't check which image in running but I think it's ich777

[molten sinew]

I am trying to get a link directly to the Docker container, but can't seem to find it.

[barren mortar]

I found it

[molten sinew]

These are the only 2 options that I have for Satisfactory containers. Could this issue be container related?

[barren mortar]

It could be, depending on how it's set up

[molten sinew]

I could try to setup a VM and test that

That would take some time though. Are there other troubleshooting steps that we can try first?

[barren mortar]

I've used the wolveix and renegademaster docker containers with varying success. Renegademaster is the one I use now

[molten sinew]

Are Docker containers ok to use, or it the SteamCMD installer recommended?

[barren mortar]

I've never used an unraid server, so I don't know

[raw spoke]

I assumed the crashes are just expected at this point. There's been no patches for the dedicated server.

[molten sinew]

I guess that I will try the VM route then. The soonest I can test that will be in about 2 weeks. We can live with the crashes for now

[barren mortar]

fwiw, you're not the first one I've seen with a crash relating to deleting objects

[molten sinew]

We also assume that. But we found that the crashes we got were increasing in frequency and everytime the dedicated server loaded the most recent save. Since saving took a long time and lagged a lot, I changed the save interval to 30 minutes. We have lost so much work the last few days

I changed it back to 5 minutes just now and will tell the other players to live with the saving lag

[molten sinew]

We get the crashes when building of deleting things. I would say that the crash likelyhood is like this:
Low chance when building
Intermediate chance when deleting
High chance when converting items to other items. Like metal foundations to conrete ones.

[raw spoke]

Yup that's the same for my server

[molten sinew]

We also got other issues where some players seem to crash (game still works but they can't move and can only respawn) when using hypertube cannons and hypertubes. About 3/4th of the way through the hypertube, they crash. Their player character is invisible, and the game shows the wrong location to each other player. The stuck player can see where he is stuck, but other players see that the game compass shows that stuck player on a different location

But we thought that was just a normal bug and didn't pay much attention to it

[molten sinew]

Have you by any chance tested with differen CPU speeds? I have made my server low power, and told the CPU to not boost and not use more than 30W

Since it runs on 15% load when Satisfactory is running, I thought that should still be plenty of headroom

[raw spoke]

My cpu is 10th Gen i5 at stock speeds, uses about 20 percent load when server is running

I don't think it's cpu

[molten sinew]

I have an I5 10500. I also assume that the cpu is not the problem

[shell elbow]

Would someone who is renting a dedicated server with no issues (no ghosted/ blue or invisible lines/ pipes) tell me who's hosting their server (survival servers, nitrado, etc.) please?

[molten sinew]

I'm not sure but I got the feeling that invisible pipes and belts seem to happen more on certain parts of the map

[shell elbow]

Thanks Workermaster.

[lilac pine]

So I'm curious, will dedicated servers also get an experimental update to version 8 next week... Also has it been stated if those advanced features (such as giving self items and flying) would be able to be disabled serverside?

[barren mortar]

The video implied that users could only access them if they were enabled on the server; but once they're enabled, they can't be disabled (they can be toggled, but not disabled entirely) for that save

[tough palm]

Hello everyone, last week I started my first steamcmd Satisfactory server using common tutorials found all over online and it worked just fine. Then I decided to shut it down and open a new one with a previously saved map and now nothing I do will make it work again. When I run the bat file to start the server it gets hung up and just sits there. I have the log file, is anyone here knowledgeable enough to decipher it?

[barren mortar]

Past it to somewhere like pastebin and link it here for folks to take a look at?

[velvet prism]

I'm having real big issues with the server lately, it crashes once a day and I'm having a ton of desync, like belts staying in that blue form and never finishing building
what's the usual causes, how does one debug these things?

[tough palm]

https://pastebin.com/10UTDKwy

Not sure if that'll work

[barren mortar]

It does, I'm looking to see if I can see anything

[tough palm]

Thank you so much

[barren mortar]

How much RAM does your server have?

[velvet prism]

should be enough, I have 64GB

[tough palm]

16gb

[velvet prism]

server seems to only use around 2-3

[barren mortar]

What about disk space? Both of those could cause the issues you describe. What phase of the game are you on?

[velvet prism]

I have >1TB free space

[barren mortar]

Not sure how you use so little 😂 Mine is pretty constant at around 12

[velvet prism]

phase is EGP_LateGame

[tough palm]

I have over 200gb of free disk space

[velvet prism]

can I force server to use more? idk if there's a settings file maybe?

[tough palm]

I used these instructions to set it up: SteamCMD Step One: Download SteamCMD and extract the file
SteamCMD Step Two: Double-click on the extracted application to download the files, then type quit to exit
SteamCMD Step Three: Right-click and start a new text document file, then open it and add the command steamcmd +login anonymous +force_install_dir SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +app_update 1690800 +quit
SteamCMD Step Four: Go to file, then save as and save the text document as server.bat and choose All Files from the file type drop-down list
SteamCMD Step Five: Open the new server.bat file and wait for the files to download
SteamCMD Step Six: Open the Satisfactory dedicated server folder, create a new text document, then paste FactoryServer.exe -log -unattended into it
SteamCMD Step Seven: Save the text document as start.bat, then open it to run the dedicated server
SteamCMD Step Eight: Launch Satisfactory and choose Server Manager from the main menu
SteamCMD Step Nine: Choose ‘Add Server’ at the bottom of the screen
SteamCMD Step Ten: Players can add their IP address and the default Port, 15777, then choose 'Confirm' to create the server

[barren mortar]

Are you running this server on the same machine as the client?

[tough palm]

no

Im on the same network though

[barren mortar]

Ok. Around line 200 there it's saying the Steam server API failed

[tough palm]

what does that mean?

[barren mortar]

Not sure, it looks like it may have started afterward

[velvet prism]

apparently one of my world markers even vanished between server restarts

[barren mortar]

I've seen that happen on my own server, restarting the game usually brings them back

[velvet prism]

hm ok

[gaunt fox]

I am trying to join a friends server and it acts like it is going to load and then just give network error: Your connection to the host has been lost.
It is new server and I have never had issues before connecting to other servers. Any ideas?

[tough palm]

Did he forward a port for the server?

[gaunt fox]

The server is hosted through GTX

[gaunt fox]

Isn't the default Timeout setting 120.0? Getting Tick Timeout at 20.00

[ornate token]

Hey there, I haven't tried dedicated servers for a while but last time I did trains were definitely not working properly with them. Anyone here using them, have they been fixed?

[barren mortar]

I don't seem to have issues with trains. Trucks, on the other hand, are causing me issues

[visual raven]

hey, we're having an issue with connecting to our dedicated server

all (3) of us are experiencing a bug where the game tells us that the server's offline, or it just can't connect

despite at lease 1 of us being logged on, or able to connect at the same time

we don't know what's going on or how to fix it (this is early access, not experimental)

can anyone advise me on how to diagnose this?

[deep turret]

yes they will push experimental server version
and game mode is a game thing so I suppose it is server set , not client set

[deep turret]

that's when the game is not loaded yet
check when you launched a game or after you leave

[deep turret]

make sure the system only use less than 6-7 GB RAM before you try to start the dedicated server
the dedicated server itself goes to 12GB RAM use

[deep turret]

did you make sure you don't have multiple dedicated server running ?

[deep turret]

what kind of address are you using to connect to it ?

[deep turret]

(if you want multiple instances -which you can't with your hardware setup- , you need to change the server's ports so it doesn't clash with existing ones)

[deep turret]

x.x.x.x -> ipv4
abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd:abcd -> ipv6
name.tld -> dns

[visual raven]

IPv4

[toxic relic]

make sure your mods are disabled

[visual raven]

None of us actually knew we could mod this game 🤣… so it’s not that 🤔

[deep turret]

look like port forwarding rule unstability then, but it's weird (normally it either work or fail at some point, but it's not random)

[visual raven]

Hmm 🤔 yh, pebblehost reckon it’s a game bug

[deep turret]

make sure to check the ipv4 address often if it is a changing one

[deep turret]

but that bug need a trigger

[toxic relic]

you hosting, or you using a 3rd party vendor, pebblehost i guess?

[deep turret]

the client "bug" is it doesnt try multiple addresses in dns response (doesnt apply to ipv4 ipv6 direct address), and it doesnt normally retry to connect until you restart the game (client), which is annoying

[visual raven]

Pebblehost

[toxic relic]

my first attempt at using a hosting company, they didn't finish the install, was missing the expose of my port from the container. I just reached out to them they fixed it.

[visual raven]

If they’d failed to expose the port, none of us would be able to get on

This is more like the server (or client) is refusing the connection at random

[toxic relic]

oh, sorry, I thought the network image was form your post.

[visual raven]

The ping timeout image?

No… but we do sometimes get that as well 😂

[potent crater]

How do i create a dedicated server

[glad nest]

theres a link in the channel description

[potent crater]

Its a old video and i go localhost and it doesnt work'

I cant create one because of my version

on upd 7

[glad nest]

i used the guide and it worked so unless you have some more specific question im afraid i cannot help

[glad nest]

i dont care much about your client

i want to see the server

[potent crater]

Wdym

[glad nest]

this is for dedicated server

send the logs, or information about your setup

[potent crater]

So jace told me to run stsfcty dedicated server the tool

Then he says type localhost in the ip address then go confirm connect create game then done

[glad nest]

you need to set up your server

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[potent crater]

Which number do i go to ex: 1: linux

[glad nest]

the most appropriate one for your setup

[potent crater]

On a lenovo i dont know since its my first time

[glad nest]

Probably follow windows instructions then i presume

[potent crater]

So number 4 setting up a server

Ok on the wiki it says run the ded server i am running iit and it is done now what do i do

Nothing on my downloads in files

[glad nest]

Just follow the guide.
I am glad to help if you have some specific question

[potent crater]

Ok

[potent crater]

@glad nest

I got it up and running but it says connection to host lost

[glad nest]

when does it say that and what did you do to make it say that

[potent crater]

I connected it when i go join game it says you are not connected and it says that'

Ill go live and show you in dms

PITCHED]

[glad nest]

Server logs

Are the server even running?

Also why do you want a dedicated server on the same machine

In most cases you are better served just hosting it normally when you are just using 1 machine anyway

[raw spoke]

just checked and i'm actually using the wolveix/satisfactory-server container, so the issue isn't container specific imo, probably just the game code tbh

[molten sinew]

Thanks for checking. That does dimish my hopes of it being container related a bit. I am still going to try a virtual machine in a week or so

[raw spoke]

maybe unrelated but i did notice i didn't do these bandwidth fixes

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Multiplayer#Engine.ini

have you? @molten sinew

it says it's a lag solution, but i wonder if the crashes are due to bandwidth issues

[molten sinew]

My engine.ini file looks a lot different. I do not have any of those settings in there.

I will make a screenshot of the files that I have

I have 2 engine.ini files. Both are different and in different locations. None have the options that are shown on the Satisfactory wiki

[raw spoke]

i see the options there already

internet speed/ client rate at the bottom

just got to increase the values on the server AND client side it says

[molten sinew]

Sorry, I overlooked the options. I was still trying to find other settings in there

[raw spoke]

so if your users aren't gonna edit their side, probably best not to edit

[molten sinew]

I can tell them to edit it

But I can also try it first. If I change those settings, and also my own game, then I can test if I still crash

It says to also have both the host and client on the same setting for network quality. I can change my own game setting to ultra, but don't know how to set the server network quality to ultra:

[torn finch]

Having amazing sucess with a Mac mini m2, using VMWare to run WIN11 arm as a VM, with 5/8 cores and 12/16gb dedicated to the vm. Been running fairly stable with only 1 crash over 3 days. Only changes are auto save frequency decreased, enemies on (forget name but “retaliate” setting) do not seem to affect server stability. This runs better than the service I used before, plus I have more direct control of the server in house.

For a max of 4 players residing coast to coast!

I know satisfactory does not “scale” beyond 2 cores, and generally you don’t want a majority of system resources spent on a single container, but in this case I found it to be the most stable configuration.

Also, steam api errors are of no consequence, must be a bug. I even run -NOSTEAM flag and get the warning

[desert walrus]

Where did you get that info?

[desert walrus]

Yeah, that's normal

And the location of the players really has very little effect on server performance

[torn finch]

Reddit/wiki/off topic dev discussion hinting at it. But this was speaking on an x86 system, I assumed apple’s SoC scheduled has its own special sauce along with win 11 arm weirdness

TBH I’m surprised it works at all let alone well

[desert walrus]

It's more like the 8 thread mark where you see diminishing returns

[torn finch]

Hadn’t seen anyone successfully pull it off on an m2 max with VMWare so thought I’d post it does work confirmed

[torn finch]

Makes sense why 5 cores 10 threads brought minor stability over 4c 8t on apple silicon then imo

Thanks for the info

[desert walrus]

You will likely eventually run into issues
It's possible to host just fine on a 4500, but late game or large saves it'll slow down if I had to guess

Very cool to have it running on Apple silicon though!

[torn finch]

It’s running a 300 hour mega factory save now. One that wouldn’t work on the old sever hosting service. Gotta get the name from my friend, they must underspec machines hard

[desert walrus]

300 hours != megafactory

[torn finch]

300 hours x 4 players for 1200 man hours mega enough? Lol, not sure what your definition of mega is though. Definitely thought we hit a soft object limit due to the slowdown on the old hardware

By no means an ideal machine though. If I weren’t broke more ram would be better…

[desert walrus]

Is that 300 save hours or active?
With 4 players that's more impressive nonetheless

[torn finch]

Anyways, seems there’s no issue with VMWare if parallels isn’t your thing if you somehow find yourself hosting on a Mac chip.

[torn finch]

Fingers crossed it can stay this way and work with update 8 (though I assume it likely won’t work on update 8+ until the server itself gets an update, which I know isn’t first priority).

[desert walrus]

Server will be updated alongside client afaik

It just might not be that stable

[graceful flicker]

Really struggling with my dedicated server.

Every time I come back overnight to play (same with my friends), the server is basically inactive, I have to 'load' a save and the connect. This means that my friends cannot join the server unless I load the save myself.

Has anyone experienced this same behaviour?

[desert walrus]

Are you hosting with nitrado?

[graceful flicker]

Hey mate, yes I am. I had a chat to their support team, whilst they were polite, they were not helpful at all.

[desert walrus]

Yeah, several people have reported this issue with them lately
Seems like they are completely shutting down servers when there is nobody online after a few hours

[graceful flicker]

Hmm

That's really disappointing, I'm paying for a service I should have access to that service 24/7 haha.

[desert walrus]

I'd move away from nitrado if you can, self-host if possible

[graceful flicker]

Yeah thanks mate. Appreciate it.

[desert walrus]

That would be logical, yes 😛

[graceful flicker]

If you have a quick moment, I'll migrate away from Nitrado then, I was wondering if you knew where the saves were on a dedicated server? Just so I can pull them out via FTP

[desert walrus]

On Linux it's ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames

[graceful flicker]

Fantastic, thanks for your help mate, appreciate it.

[desert walrus]

Yep

[potent crater]

@glad nest

It says game ongoning

[glad nest]

so whats the problem?

[potent crater]

When i go join game it sayed your not connected then it says host connection has been lost

[glad nest]

okay

what does the logs say?

[potent crater]

Show me where the logs are

[glad nest]

never touched a windows server

[glad nest]

yeah will probably need more than that

[potent crater]

Ok gimme a moment

[glad nest]

Error: IsClientMsgTypeValid FAILED (40): Remote Address = ::1
Do you by any chance have any mods installed on your client?

because that will not work

[potent crater]

Oh

Now i got a good thing to suggest

[visual onyx]

Since dedicated servers aren't too stabile yet and update 8 could make it worse, does anything stop me from just hosting a satisfactory game on another PC as a normal player and just leave that running for people to join?

[desert walrus]

You need to buy two copies of the game that way, and performance will be a little worse

[visual onyx]

oh true, well I've launched the dedicated server app and a console came up so currently figuring out how to get an address and port out of it

[desert walrus]

Unless you've configured otherwise it'll be the ip of the machine the dedi is running on
Default port to put in server manager is 15777(query port)

[visual onyx]

wow that was easy thanks

[raw spoke]

any difference?

[molten sinew]

I am hesitant to call it a success, but there are no crashes since I changed those settings. I have tried stressing my server by doing everything that made it crash before. Build/dismantle extremely fast, change materials, nothing made it crash.

But I also got the feeling that leaving the autosave interval on the default 5 minutes and not 30 minutes also decreased the amount of crashes

[desert walrus]

You want them to both be on the same quality setting
the setting you chose depends on a lot actually
A higher setting will reduce lag and desync issues, but also increase processing requirements on both client and server, which means that it can actually cause slowdowns on very large saves or underspecced machines

[molten sinew]

Where do I change the server quality setting?

I can only find the option on my own client, not the server

[desert walrus]

Check the wiki for that kind of stuff

[vagrant dirge]

Hello, I'm trying to get my dedicated server "published" and I'm running into a little bit of trouble. I have my own domain and have set my DNS to forward my URL (satisfactory.{domain}.com) to the server, but I keep getting the invalid address error. I've done this before and it's worked just fine, but now whenever I enter my URL into the Server Manager on my client it's throwing the error. Any ideas?

[untold thistle]

hey guys

does someone want to play a server with me?

[stone olive]

hey, are there any mods that work with dedicated servers?

[desert walrus]

Not currently

[rancid ether]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout #looking-for-group-old and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[desert walrus]

@untold thistle ^

[stone olive]

okay thanks

[untold thistle]

Yea?

[raw citrus]

Wondering if someone knows what this issue might be. Just keeps happening on repeat.

Server is hosted on a seprate machine on the same network as my gaming PC. Ports have been forwarded and 15777 have been allowed for TCP and UDP on inbound rules on the server pc.

(would have pasted the text but there is links which I can't post due to server moderation)

[deep turret]

only posting a fraction of the logs will not do it as the server is normally throwing a lot of warnings and errors without any being fatal
you need to post it all to enable people to read the one that may be related to actual problem
you can paste it in discord directly
avoid third party data hosting if you can send directly the content
because you probably don't want third party reviewing what you do and why as well as listing everyone trying to read it as well

[raw citrus]

Looks like a reinstall of the server fixed the issue anyway. Thx

[graceful flicker]

Can confirm it is isolated to Nitrado. They didn't even try to argue that they throttle it during idle time which causes a crash. Just refunded me right away.

[fossil oriole]

If anyone here has experience with CubeCoders' AMP software, do you know where the hell the save file is stored? I am losing my mind trying to find it.

[wind spade]

Are there patch notes for todays patch? I cant join our server after today's update and the server and clients are all up to date. Is anyone else having this issue?

[desert walrus]

Afaik there was no patch today

[desert walrus]

That's steam being dumb

[wind spade]

Jesus... I can't even diagnose through reddit because of the blackout

pain

[opaque dew]

same

[opaque dew]

anyone know how i can get the session ID for a user to join me?

[opaque dew]

nvm, i got it now

[deep turret]

dedicated servers don't need session ID to do anything

[neat birch]

multiplayer w/o dedicated server does. But indeed, this chan is named dedi 😉

[fickle gust]

Does a dedicated server benefit from having dedicated gpu?

[glad nest]

Not directly

It can help free up some cpu resources elsewhere but thats about it

[fickle gust]

Okay, that's what I thought. Thanks a lot!

[lapis gazelle]

What makes you say this? I'm hoping you're right. 🤞

[desert walrus]

They've never done otherwise

It'd be a really weird decision

[lapis gazelle]

Awesome, thanks 👍

[limber gazelle]

Im tempted to switch over to experimental tomorrow. Is anyone gonna try it with dedicated servers or are you gonna wait a bit?

[barren mortar]

I'm going to wait, personally

Partially because I'm not sure how to switch my docker container to experimental without rebuilding it 😂

[lean wing]

ill be on it for sure, probably will take down my dedicated tonight and get it up and running again tomorrow evening, 5ish pm est

[urban heath]

Our dedicated runs on a VM. I'm going to create a new VM with update 8 and shut down the U7 VM, but if we have issues we can just start the original VM back up. 🤞

[sonic ibex]

this game itself is a problem if it comes to dedicated servers, nothing loads in fully, conveyers running but cant see them. random kicks or crashes , they should seriously start working on the dedicated side instead of bringing out more stuff over and over this is a ARK story all over again

[barren mortar]

That sounds like not enough RAM on the server, tbh

[sonic ibex]

bud im running 36 gig of DDR4 memory allocated to the VM

[cloud swan]

Just started my first DS, i gotta say the log statments durring connection are peak comedy, thanks for the chuckle

[desert walrus]

1. Vm hurts performance fir this server by a fair bit
2. What cpu do you have, and what's allocated to the vm?

[desert pendant]

Is there a "quit" command on linux dedicated servers?

[desert walrus]

!wikisearch dedicated+server

[rancid ether]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Search?query=dedicated+server

[desert pendant]

Thanks!

[steep meadow]

how are dedicated servers now? I played on one about 6 months ago and it wasnt great but wasnt the worst, how are they now compared to say a few months ago?

[desert walrus]

The same

They're a pretty low priority feature atm

[steel mantle]

Been playing for about 1.5 months and haven’t ran into any issues

[bleak belfry]

About the same

[deep turret]

servers currently require great cpu performance
also if you are using a vm I would recommend running it in a Linux system, I don't know what you are using currently
Linux is more lightweight

[torn finch]

M2 Mac mini with win 11 ARM in VMWare Fusion works well enough for me. Though it does take most all it’s resources, it is smoother than Linux ime (only on arm mac though)

[desert walrus]

I wouldn't expect it to perform well on a larger save though

Wimp pc then

[torn finch]

Not at all lmao. Just frees up resources and has fewer 1% lows

[desert walrus]

Specs?

Render performance goes up but your factory sim perf is almost guaranteed to be worse

The m2 is over 10% slower on a single thread, without taking into account the vm overhead

[torn finch]

Can’t really compare clock for clock.

[desert walrus]

I'm comparing cb r23

I'm aware that IPC and instruction set are completely different between them

[deep turret]

wdym satisfactory doesn't support arm

[torn finch]

Satisfactory dedicated server runs fine on windows 11 ARM (on a mac mini). It may not be officially supported, but the translation layers work with a VM. The game client itself however cannot launch.

it also works on linux arm (ubuntu)

[tulip finch]

My factory server runs on duo E5-2696 v2 and works great,no big issues

[deep turret]

directly ? unofficial arm experimental support ?

[torn finch]

whatever you would categorize win 11 arm support as, same thing. probably unofficial not recommended but it can work if properly configured.

[deep turret]

👀

[torn finch]

At least IME, it didn't really deviate from the wiki install info aside from the VM setup.

[deep turret]

I mean if you setup a vm with arm OS it means the vm is arm too

[torn finch]

yes it does

[deep turret]

especially Linux arm which doesn't have fancy pre packaged compatibility automation bullshit to run x86-64 code

[torn finch]

m1/m2 chips arent strictly ARM instruction sets though, they have some x86 instructions at the hardware level to recompile in real time

[torn finch]

My guess is the data pipeline for apple silicon i was speaking of acting as an intermediate translation layer between bare metal and the VM. I am not certain that any ARM processor up to spec would be able to run this. I have to assume its that magical apple arm >x86 at play. Though i only tested ubuntu 22.02 for linux arm

but i dont have another ARM machine up to snuff to test it so, just a guess

[deep turret]

but the arm Linux doesn't support x86-64 transparently normally

you don't do
vm > satisfactory
you do
vm > arm os > satisfactory

and that os is completely aware of softwares being arm compatible or not, and filter it

[torn finch]

i havent finished my degree in cybersecurity quite yet, I was fairly certain its satisfactory>VM>ARM OS>Bare metal.

[tiny grotto]

The solution you describe is windows emulating x86 on arm. It is not using apple’s compatibility layer.

[torn finch]

it is through the VM being a native apple silicon app does it not?

[tiny grotto]

No. The virtualization layer only virtualizes arm systems. Microsoft has an in windows x86 emulator and no access to the instructions which make Apple x86-arm layer so embarrassingly fast

Like, obviously

The recent game toolkit brings that to a dx12 layer

This is described in a 3 part series released at dubdub

Stupid link scrubber

[deep turret]

and that ^
that's why I was so surprised you said it is supported on Linux arm without tricking

[torn finch]

oh, i see. yea i did mention it requires some config i thought. might have glossed over it.

windows is plug n play

[torn finch]

you are correct. i misremembered that apple and microsoft both made their own x86-arm solutions. there isn't a ton of public documentation on it, and the smoothness along with microsofts parallels investment had me assuming that msft had some help from apple. Even with just a 2d driver it runs most games better than linux, if only for the simplicity of setup

[deep turret]

for me it looks like you ran Ubuntu NOT arm on it

[torn finch]

thats impossible 😛

can't run an x86 OS VM on an arm processor

at least i can't with the current version of vmware fusion technical preview

[deep turret]

not supported ? ok
I thought it could have x86 emulation

[torn finch]

it does so directly with Rosetta 2. The arm version of vmware does not allow you to load an x86 os, as it isn't yet possible. they still dont have shared clipboard or hardware accellerated gfx passthrough, so its still in development for sure. I'm certain parallels runs better, but is not worth the cost difference for a one off game server lmao. VMware does everything else i need.

[deep turret]

I prefer the wording of x86 VM than "x86 os"
the vm provide the hardware emulated context with its own set of hardware feature
and that feature set is either x86 from start or arm from start

[torn finch]

afaik its not possible to use rosetta 2 to install x86 versions of Virtual Machine software. At least virtualbox and vmware are incompatible.

[deep turret]

other mode would be paravirtualization

[torn finch]

feature set in this case is arm with microsofts x86 emulation

[deep turret]

I mean the feature set is shown to os
then OS get to use it adding layers of virtualization / emulations for Windows

[desert walrus]

@torn finch @deep turret the dedi uses several packages that are not licensed for use on arm

[deep turret]

vm is not aware of x86 translation INSIDE the vm

[torn finch]

same page sounds like, i just mince words to pieces xD

[torn finch]

VMWare is not licensed to run WIN 11 ARM either, and i'm not condoning it, just testing that it is possible 🙂

[desert walrus]

Yeah, I know
Not really relevant to the current portion of your convo but I thought I'd throw it in since it's not super widely known

[torn finch]

I mean, if you are installing a win 11 arm vm, you probably know xD

[deep turret]

it wasn't a response to you
I was just continuing my message to LazyJohnson

[torn finch]

but understandble on the clarification

[torn finch]

Im with ya shark, i just jumbled my headcannon with reality. Headcannon being that MSFT got some help direct or indirectly from apple in creating the translation layer. IIRC one of the head engineers for the apple translation layer left to work at MSFT semi-recently, but my memory is awful

[deep turret]

could it be possible they still compile on it for the linux version, as some packages may not be required on linux, or using linux alternatives instead, that may have arm library compatibilties

(btw, that is my real response to your message Fight or Flight)

[torn finch]

i believe it is the latter but im 50-50 on it

[marsh thorn]

will dedicated server release with experimental release ?

[fiery star]

hello, how can i host multiple satisfactory server on one dedicated server?

[glad nest]

should be as simple as to assigning different ips to the second instane

[desert walrus]

Yes

[fiery star]

when i change the ports it says theat the server is offline in game

[desert walrus]

Run multiple instances of the software with different ips

[fiery star]

wait you need an entire new ip for that?? you can't simply change ports? ok

[glad nest]

i mean ports

[desert walrus]

You have to set the new query port in game as well

[glad nest]

my bad

[desert walrus]

Either works
--multihome

[glad nest]

i had 2 running instances on one machine previously so i know it to be working

[fiery star]

i changed it in game as well but it shows up as offline

[desert walrus]

Are you sure you entered query port not game port?

[glad nest]

i had it dockerized however so may be a bit harder to separate the instances on barebone

[fiery star]

i use pterodactyl so its dockerized

[desert walrus]

@fiery star use --multihome with a seperate ip to test

[fiery star]

i can't send screenshots ok

[fiery star]

i don't have multiple ips on my dedicated server

[desert walrus]

Why not?

[desert walrus]

Ah...

[fiery star]

something is deleting my message

[desert walrus]

Are you trying to embed it? Send the file directly

[fiery star]

online link to a png file

ok there

i changed theses 2

still doesn't work

did i miss something?

[desert walrus]

You need to change game port as well probably

[fiery star]

3 ports?

tf

[glad nest]

yeah

game port is normally 7777

and i think you may want to avoid using +1 on all those ports

think i read some reasoning for it somewhere

[fiery star]

alright there is 3 ports now, lets try again

i wonder why they use 3 ports instead of only one like every game

[glad nest]

3 times the ports 3 times the fun

[desert walrus]

Most games use more than one port
But there is actually good reason

[fiery star]

alright i changed all 3 ports

still doesn't show up as online

[barren mortar]

Make sure the new ports are forwarded on your router as well

[fiery star]

its a dedicated sever, i don't host it on my pc

[barren mortar]

Ports still have to be opened for you to be able to connect

[fiery star]

anyway does anyone know if the server will also get the update or of it will come later?

[barren mortar]

Depends if you're on experimental or not

[fiery star]

yeah experimental

[barren mortar]

Then it should, though from what I've seen here I wouldn't expect it to be a vast improvement, potentially (or likely) the opposite at first

[fiery star]

alright

[deep turret]

it will mostly be for new gameplay feature and compatibility with update 8 client game

but yea, dont expect better stability
expect less performance

they still didnt focus tweaking UE5 for that

I do believe some dedicated server gameplay bugs will be somewhat fixed though
because they are forced to smehow sync the server state with client game UE5 features, as it is changing engine

[barren mortar]

I'm staying on U7 for now (mostly because I don't want to rebuild my dedicated server because I don't know how to tweak the version on an already running docker container)

[deep turret]

I think it may be possible to install both separately with steamCMD forcedirectory parameter

I was waiting it to play again, I will try the dedicated server as I mostly play alone now, I could update you on how it work with ryzen 5000x + 16GB RAM

[hybrid pelican]

I have a question: is hosting a server as the game running client-side and inviting people would be more stable than the dedicated server?

[deep turret]

more stable in what way ?

[hybrid pelican]

I have a player that doesn't stop to crash but he did not crash when I hosted the game directly in my computer, without the dedicated server
Also the server often crash while with the game it was more stable

[deep turret]

more stable as in 'gameplay works the best' : yes
more stable as in 'less crashs' : probably
more stable as in 'steady performance' : no

[hybrid pelican]

The first time we played the game, I launched it on my computer and my friend joined my game : it was stable and I don't remember any crash
This time, I host the game in a different computer using the dedicated server : my friend and the server crash a lot

Next time I consider to run the game as normal on my second computer and make my friend and I join it
They will have a third player (the server's one) that I will stay idle inside the hub

[limber gazelle]

That's viable although you'd need another copy of the game and would be using more resources on the second pc. In fact I think someone mentioned that's the only way to have mods on a "dedicated" game.

[lost plover]

Server is refusuing to boot on update 8 now

[neon rapids]

So....who's gonna be the first to upgrade their dedicated server and let everyone else know how the stability works?

[neon rapids]

Looks like I spoke too soon 😂

[lost plover]

Yeah lol I am reinstalling the server to test see if that works but it would just crash

Ahh I see the issue

[fiery star]

"SteamCMD failed to install the Satisfactory Dedicated Server!"

well thats a good start for update 8

[lost plover]

They changed the startup director so now I need to change the start command

[frosty gale]

Would you happen to know the start commands required now?

[lost plover]

The startup command I used to get it started is

./Engine/Binaries/Linux/UnrealServer-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame ?listen -Port=7777 -ServerQueryPort=15777 -BeaconPort=15000 -multihome=0.0.0.0

[frosty gale]

Thanks!

[lost plover]

Holy crap my server is only using 1.8GB of ram instead of it's normal 12GB

[loud minnow]

thats because you just staterd the instance the game wont be loaded until someone tried to connect to it

[lost plover]

I am on the server

[loud minnow]

are you loaded in the game

[lost plover]

Yes

[loud minnow]

well personally i dont think that correct but could be wrong..

[lost plover]

idk right now it's using 1.78GB and I am playing on the server

[loud minnow]

if your on windows it could also be that windows has cache the files that is why it showing less..

[lost plover]

Using linux

[loud minnow]

well that good but i havent tried my self so i cant say if your correct or wrong...

[raw spoke]

All I want is less crashes not less ram usage 🙂

[lost plover]

I'm not having crashes

[neon rapids]

What about bugs? Anyone load into an extremely CPU-heavy world yet?

[loud minnow]

if is a new game yeah i hoping there is not crashes but in late game we will see about that lol

[deep turret]

I will test it

[lost plover]

You most likley need to update the start command

[steel mantle]

updated client and server (gportal) but getting

[wild panther]

someone encountered this?

[clever quarry]

yup

[lost plover]

Not having any issues, but I did reinstall my server to remove the old engine files and just reuploaded my save

[tulip finch]

try reconnect again

[keen vortex]

i had to update both my docker container and my docker engine before i could get the server to start lol

[clever quarry]

Maybe its an EPIC to Steam issue ?

[wild panther]

both steam

happened after experimental update

[tulip finch]

same

[steel mantle]

ive updated everything. i even deleted the gportal server and created a new one

still same not authenticated server name pending issue

[lost plover]

Did you open all 3 ports

[tulip finch]

check if you have forwarded all ports needed and check your server starting arguments maybe

[steel mantle]

they have been open. are there new ones with update 8?

[tulip finch]

no i guess

[lost plover]

Same ports for me at least

[keen vortex]

once i updated everything, the server loaded fine and even loaded my old e7 server save, looks good to me

[steel mantle]

opened support case with gportal, as its not just one server (old and new having same issue)

[lost plover]

Make sure trhe startup command looks like this

./Engine/Binaries/Linux/UnrealServer-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame ?listen -Port=7777 -ServerQueryPort=15777 -BeaconPort=15000 -multihome=0.0.0.0

[tulip finch]

maybe some program has occupied the port

[mellow zealot]

Hi there, Looking to get a dedicated server for the first time. are there any recommended hosting services atm?

[steel mantle]

its on gportal. not sure how to see that

[lost plover]

Well ask them to confirm

I had to contact my hosting provider to have them change it

[tulip finch]

don't know,but you can try to run dedicated server in home if you have a spare computer

[keen vortex]

i've been running it inhouse since the dedicated server was announced using docker and i think it's the wolveix docker image, has always worked great for us

ymmv obviously

[mellow zealot]

I dont have the extra hardware to host a server on unfirtunately, thats why im looking for service recommendations

[tulip finch]

I'm running my server inhouse on windows and it works fine

[keen vortex]

just loaded up our last server image (e7) with evrything updated and it seems to be working "as well as can be expected"

[lost plover]

Pebblehost is decent

or I use one called BloomHost

[keen vortex]

actually the new version appears to be considerably better in that it uses much less memory

this save is a late-tier fairly developed world and it's only pulling down 3G

[obsidian plinth]

Hey guys, does anyone know the SteamCMD String to update experimental's dedicated server? I'm still getting version mismatches

[tulip finch]

yea 10+gb -> 2gb

[gilded barn]

Logic Servers use code Satisfied18 for 25% off

[tulip finch]

on windows , run steamcmd.exe +force_install_dir <ur dir> +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

[obsidian plinth]

Yeah

On windows :3

[wild panther]

allright i had to force the ip using ⁠multihome. looks like ipv6 fucked something up

[loud minnow]

yeah dont use ipv6 it always fucks things up

[fervent quest]

I am interested in the quoted save time decreases. My local dedicated server was up to 45s and none of that was local disk slow down. Just unreal engine 4 wait.

[soft girder]

anyone having issues with gportal servers not updating automaticaly?

[tulip finch]

it seems server has switched to ue5 in u8

[fervent quest]

Yes I know. I'm not in a position to update my dedicated server at the moment so I was wondering if other people who have late game saves had noticed a decrease in save times.

[keen vortex]

lemme see, i've had this one running long enough that itt should have autosaved

[raw spoke]

I wonder if the lower ram is due to World partitioning

[steel mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

[lost plover]

My big save is saving pretty quick

[steel mantle]

why cant things just work

[tulip finch]

nice gif saved

[keen vortex]

my curreny game is taking 1.9 seconds to save

[fervent quest]

Quite possibly, I wonder if you explore most of the world if that goes back up to normal levels. It's a good thing overall.

Or if it continues to unload areas which aren't 'active' anymore

[fervent quest]

It's been a few months so I've played as I was waiting for U8 to drop, but I think mine was a 20Mb save and was taking 45s, had to modify the unreal engine configs as it would drop all clients as 45s is greater than the default 30s timeout.

[keen vortex]

for a save that is 3.5 MB if i'm reading this correctly

[steel mantle]

i feel there should be more here:

[lost plover]

Well my save right now is about 10MB and it seems to be saving around 3-5 seconds right now

But the console doesn't show save times anymore

[keen vortex]

i found the save tim ein the container log

[fervent quest]

If that's any indication, it sounds like saves should be much faster for my server, woohoo 😄 /cautiously optimistic

[keen vortex]

[2023.06.13-16.06.04:664][269]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 1.754 seconds

[fervent quest]

Yep thats nice and snappy

[lost plover]

I'm not noticing any skips or freezes anymore while saving

[keen vortex]

i didn't even notice the server saves, although i'm not really that active

the client feels smoother in general, but too soon to really say

[vivid oyster]

Is it possbile to access the new advanced game settings on the dedicated server?

[lost plover]

Small saves you won't feel it saving

[fervent quest]

That's huge if true for my save. I used to set timer so I knew when the save was going to happen and not be doing anything important or using hyper-tubes as it could bug out.

[lost plover]

Yes go to the saves click load save and the option is there

[keen vortex]

jace mentioned how to do that in a prior stream

it's a console command forget what it was but he mentioned it

[lost plover]

I found it by loading a save

[manic hatch]

or in single player you can enable it, then upload the save to the server

[keen vortex]

i remember he said it was supported on dedicated, but not how, but it's in the video go watch it 🙂

[lost plover]

On the bottom

[vivid oyster]

Awesome, thanks a ton!

[fervent quest]

That's a few hours. I think my current world with a few friends is only cracking 1.5k hours.

[lost plover]

I started this save when u6 came out

[fervent quest]

Ah, ours is a U7 save, we'll probably keep it until Satisfactory goes 1.0 and then start a new beginning.

[lost plover]

Eyyy the foliage bug is back

[iron ridge]

anybody have this happen AND found a fix?

[lost plover]

Just confirm it and retry

[wild panther]

set ip to a IPv4 using multihome start argument

[iron ridge]

multihome? why

[abstract panther]

do you have an example of this? I'm having the same issue

[iron ridge]

I continue to get the net error connection above. I'm using a local dedicated server on Linux Steam version

[wild panther]

im using systemd

ExecStart=/home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh -multihome=192.168.1.191

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#For_Linux

this guide should have you covered

also includes windows

[crystal eagle]

anybody know why the saveinterval command for dedicated server is not recognised?

[abstract panther]

just tried a similar command foor linux and it insantly crashes the server

[wild panther]

did you adjust to your IP ?

[abstract panther]

to what?

[wild panther]

to your actual internal IP or whatever youre using

[abstract panther]

Its running on an azure VM, I had it set to the external, now its satrted, lets see if I can connect

Thanks

[wild panther]

homelab ftw

[cold cape]

How to adjust Advanced Game Options while in a server?

[abstract panther]

I have a home lab too, but if work gives you 150eur per month for server hosting this is easier on my energy bill 😛

[wild panther]

true

[abstract panther]

Anyways. thanks for the help!

[soft girder]

anyone else missing water in the dune dez off the coast?

[iron ridge]

@cold cape If you Load a save there is an option under the Load button to open AGS when loading

[obsidian plinth]

Anyone else seeing Hypertubes being very glitchy/Crashing the server for long distances?

[lucid stag]

is there an updated file path for the linux server? I'm trying to get a pterodactyl egg that I have run Satisfactory's dedicated server from in the past, but the path is no longer valid...updating to UE5 does nothing to correct the error

old path:
./Engine/Binaries/Linux/UE4Server-Linux-Shipping FactoryGame

[loud minnow]

can confirm is running fine using docker on debian and update 8 is using around 1.5-1.7GB of ram running on a 3950X and 64GB of 3466 ram kit

[fossil stump]

mines refusing to connect in the server manager, let alone letting a client connect

[clear lagoon]

anyone seeing hypertubes spit them out again right after entering? o-o

[fossil stump]

[2023.06.13-17.20.39:267][774]LogServer: Opening a new route from '[::ffff:10.0.0.77]:58123' to '[::1]:15000'

seems like it's not picking up it's own Ip for some reason.

[lucid stag]

Thank you, server starting up now

[loud minnow]

new save so can't say how stable it is but is running fine

[lucid stag]

oh yeah, starting over, who knows how stable

[fossil stump]

specified the IP, that fixed it.

[full dew]

my train network was like this, and horrible lag, so a new save indeed

[obsidian plinth]

The train thing is a visual bug, not a functional one

Also try setting things to this in video

[loud minnow]

is funny that my tickrate is 119 lol...it is a new save but i dont think i would change much late game on a 3950X but we'll see

but it does run non-stop even if nobody is not connected as a DS should be lol

[minor oasis]

confirm the ipv4 multihome argument fixed the connection issues after the patch. Thanks @wild panther

[fossil stump]

weird one, I had a bunch of smelters doing copper ingots, they wouldn't start working again till I reselected the recipe

[lyric nacelle]

Did you happen to find a solution to this? I'm stuck with the same atm.

[wide elm]

My client keeps crashing as soon as I run into a creature. I was able to 'fix' this by setting them to passive on the version 7 but in version 8 this doesn't fix it.

[fossil stump]

@wide elm if you had the bug on U7, I don't think it's related to the update.

[wide elm]

@lyric nacelle Start your server with -multihome=<ip of your server> (in Linux).

[lyric nacelle]

I've set it up with systemctl.. I'll have a look at how I include that part.

[wide elm]

@fossil stump I was afraid of that 😭

@lyric nacelle The documentation says you can do it with INI files but it doesn't say where these are located. But maybe you DID figure that out when you installed your server ;-).

[lyric nacelle]

Hm.

Oh right, can do it.. Found it

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Running_as_a_Service

Description=Satisfactory dedicated server
Wants=network-online.target
After=syslog.target network.target nss-lookup.target network-online.target

[Service]
Environment="LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./linux64"
ExecStartPre=/usr/games/steamcmd +force_install_dir "/home/your_user/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer" +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
ExecStart=/home/your_user/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryServer.sh
User=your_user
Group=your_user
StandardOutput=journal
Restart=on-failure
WorkingDirectory=/home/your_user

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target```

There :p

[wide elm]

There you go, have fun 🙂

[lyric nacelle]

Public or local ip?

[wide elm]

I put in my local IP.

[lyric nacelle]

... Hah. VM crashed as I was about to do that.

[loud minnow]

i ran into creature and no crashes so far...

[obsidian harbor]

saviour! thank you!

[wide elm]

@fossil stump But regardless of it being a problem with the previous version as well, if this is a known issue (on the Discord), I was hoping somebody had a workaround or fix.

[fossil stump]

considering you're starting from a bad state already, I would copy your savegame out, and do a clean install.

at least then you can be sure it's not the server causing it.

[wide elm]

@loud minnow Hmmmm, OK. Trying to figure out what the issue could be then and whether it's server-related or client-related.

Fair enough, nothing to lose, lots to gain.