dedicated-servers

[vestal prawn]

ya my buddy is running the server

#dedicated-servers message

Its a pretty beefy system but the game really doesnt tap into it much. We noticed it was utilizing one core to the max last night and he reset it. You guys think a super fast proc like I9 13900K would be more beneficial to keep the single core happy? Probably just better to be patient and hope they get resolve it soon!

[reef snow]

I see their conundrum- it takes time and effort to patch bugs. Costs money. Interestingly many people in the community are extremely prone to helping- CSS may benefit greatly from bringing volunteers and people from the community into the mix to as a method of delegation- to patch simple bugs and even more complex issues. I know many coders and software engineers that love this game and would kick a doggo for the chance to patch some of the issues for them.

[main delta]

I do believe that the wiki says that it only runs single core

[frosty gale]

I’ve been thinking of buying a dedicated server unit to throw up a 24/7 server. Where should I look for these

[frosty gale]

when I try to join my server, I get this

I click join and then the game says im not connected to the server, then I connect and click join again and the result is the same. After a few attempts this pops up

[desert walrus]

Honestly, ad a semi-experienced team developer(not that good mind)

[fading quarry]

Single core performance is the key yes. Going with a i5-13600KF or Ryzen 7 7700 gives almost exactly same single core performance as i9-13900K for almost half the price tho.

[nimble sapphire]

I played a bunch running a dedi during U5 and U6, never had any real issues

[modern scroll]

Anyone able to help with this thread. It involves a train be launched into the void past the kill border. https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1073715517472391209

[frosty gale]

did anyone set up a Satisfactory server via Pterodactyl panel?

[crisp lark]

Has anyone installed Satisfactory Server on Ubuntu 22.04? My server keeps killing itself when joining, and its missing the sdk64 steamclient.so but steamcmd is the i386 version only..?

I can run it on 20.04 no problem, but 22.04 gives me a lot of gripe.

[crisp lark]

linking the steamclient.so doesn't work either per Wiki instructions

ln: failed to create symbolic link '/home/phunter/.steam/sdk64/': No such file or directory

[tame remnant]

alright so installed the dedicated server using steamcmd on an old PC that ive used for minecraft servers and such. Its an old i7-2600 with 24GB of RAM. Server performance hasnt been that bad so far, but I do think its kinda not smooth

Any suggestions or is it really just a hardware cap?

[signal spire]

Hey. The Engin on my Server keeps crashing and I dont no why this is happening!

[woven berry]

is there any detecated server i can join?

[novel yarrow]

First notable issue over this time occured yesterday. Not much, just mass dismantling kicked me out the server. Among this some minor bugs like hover Explorer or flying trucks. The other one is still fine.

[novel yarrow]

These are only warnings, not an issue.

[novel yarrow]

What's save size for this i7-2600?

[novel yarrow]

#looking-for-group-old

[novel yarrow]

dpkg --add-architecture i386; apt-get update; apt-get install -y libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 and install remaining dependencies for DEB systems

[tame remnant]

1703kb?

not that big

[fading quarry]

Having played through 15 or so saves on multiplayer/dedicated server I have a few tips.

Avoid mega factories and central distribution centers. This have been troublesome in Satisfactory multiplayer since it became available (and now also dedicated server), you wont really notice it much before you reach a certain threshold where the server gets overwhelmed and bogs down to a unplayable state. Unfortunately multiplayer/dedicated server is not optimized for multi threading, so single core performance is key for a good experience, and just to mention most cloud hosting services use CPU's with large amount of cores per CPU these are clocked rather low compared to desktop CPU's hence they generally perform rather poor, there are also some technical things under the hood on cloud hosting services that also degrade the performance quite a lot.

Obviously there are multiple factors at play, but generally speaking many players with large activity in close proximity to each other will lead to a bad experience rather quickly.

But as said mega central storage/distribution centers are risky, so far me and my buddy have corrupted every save we have played so far. We cant help it we always go hard when we play 🔥 💯

[tame remnant]

Actually the server im using is just an alternative to LAN play, since I just wanted to be able to work on the world without the host player.

Does LAN play suffer the same problems as dedicated? Should I just go back to that instead of trying to host dedicated?

[fading quarry]

Depending on how you measure it multiplayer/dedicated pretty much perform identical to each-other, that said dedicated is the way to go so you wont have to keep the game active to host if for your friends 24/7.

I am 99% sure that dedicated use a lot of the same code as multiplayer under the hood.

[novel yarrow]

Actually the limitations seems to be: 1. render thread (it's single-threaded), most of the things and calculations happen there 2. compression of save (zlib, where xz for example has multi threads implemented). There was no compression in use but the saves were 1GB+ in size, I don't remember up to which update ver. Just my opinion without digging into the code.

When You logg of from large-scale save and let it working alone it can reach 240 tick easily depends on how many objects on the map. Once player joins it drops rapidly since render thread kicks in.

[fading quarry]

From a programmers perspective I am fairly confident that its the packet handler that is struggling to sync with the players that is the real issue with performance, imagine hundreds of thousands of entities that are being moved around every second and not to mention all the calculations that are being made on top of that.

(on a large save that is)

[novel yarrow]

No exacly. Gigabit network can handle M+ packets per second and You can tune UE4 engine for higher bandwidth on both sides - server and client. Also doesn't change a bit when You run server on localhost.
The game does not scale this up maxing up at 10-20Mbps. It's not the issue, more likely calculations aren't spread to other worker threads.

[fading quarry]

We did some network quality testing and it has a huge impact on performance on larger saves. e.g 1 player using ultra or custom quality can degrade the performance for every other player to a point making it unplayable.

But yea its only a guesstimate, but its a complex issue non the less.

[novel yarrow]

Because each one of You and the server should have network settings adjusted, mine are:

edit ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Engine.ini
[/Script/Engine.Player]
ConfiguredInternetSpeed=104857600
ConfiguredLanSpeed=104857600
[/Script/OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=104857600
MaxInternetClientRate=104857600
[/Script/SocketSubsystemEpic.EpicNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=104857600
MaxInternetClientRate=104857600

edit ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Game.ini
[/Script/Engine.GameNetworkManager]
TotalNetBandwidth=104857600
MaxDynamicBandwidth=104857600
MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760
[/Script/Engine.GameSession]
MaxPlayers=32

edit ~/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/Scalability.ini
[NetworkQuality@3]
TotalNetBandwidth=104857600
MaxDynamicBandwidth=104857600
MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760

The default limits are simply too low for large scale builds.

Without adjusting these settings on all involved clients simply one can take entire bandwidth.

Every single server I'm deploying has these settings modified.

[fading quarry]

Also editing the entity cap is a good idea, this is why we corrupted all our previous saves.

[novel yarrow]

This behaviour also explains why so many hostings are failing at staging these correctly - probably leaving default network bandwidth at 64kb or so.

[fading quarry]

On my old Dell R610 i had issues with CPU usage reaching 100% and not going down by itself when players logged off, only way was to restart the server.

[novel yarrow]

Because on large saves option to "save on player disconnect" should be turned off due single-core writing thread using zlib.

FG.AutosaveInterval --> change to something like 30-60mins, FG.AutosaveNum (or so) to more than 3.

[fading quarry]

Yea save was only periodical, even so only every 1 hour because it would most often make players D/C when saving.

[novel yarrow]

How large it was then ?

[pliant sage]

It's free on Epic

[novel yarrow]

I'm currently at 4,80 MB (bytes: 5 036 705) + 2,58 MB (bytes: 2 715 412), they're both hosted on the same machine.

[fading quarry]

Oh I cant remember exactly but I remember one of the saves that did corrupt was around 40MB

[novel yarrow]

I would like to load up such for testing purposes on my cluster, but noone wanted to share 😦 I have several HW to test this out and optimise things.

[fading quarry]

Our current save that we started on last week is already 5MB, but so far we are not having any trouble with it.

[crisp lark]

Except the server says “Killed” after them.

[crisp lark]

Pretty sure I tried this, but I will try again and report back.

[novel yarrow]

But something else is killing it, eg. OOM. Actually You'll need apt install -y lib32gcc-s1 libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 libsdl2-2.0-0 at least, in correct versions for Your distro.

[desert walrus]

It corrupted?

Or hit the object limit?

[fading quarry]

Have had multiple saves corrupt before and after hitting object limit.

Common denominator is mega storing/sorting/distribution facilities that is the culprit.

[desert walrus]

And what happens exactly?
It's very rare for saves to just corrupt

[fading quarry]

Last few saves it was when implementing auto sorting, load balancing and overflow that the save would corrupt.

But I am suspicious that the actual problem might have to do with invisible lifters that have been a problem since lifters was added to the game. And invisible lifters are especially prevalent if you use floor holes.

Heres a screenshot of a invisible lifter. These can only be seen under rare circumstances in-game, but can be seen on calculator, and you get rubberband when running next to them in-game.

[desert walrus]

Only in multiplayer iirc

And it causes client-side desync

[fading quarry]

this is current save that is on dedicated server

[fading quarry]

And as seen here I extensively use lifters and floor holes.

[crisp lark]

I did everything you said, Its still dying.

I try to Create the game for the server, join when ready, it starts the process, times out the client after 30 seconds, then after that, the server does this:

When I restart the server, its not joinable, or discoverable, despite seeing the connection attempts in the server. I have to attempt to reconnect several times, which then it just prompts me to Create a Game and Authenticate all over again

This is hosted on an OVH VPS

[novel yarrow]

OOM means not enough memory. How much does this VPS has?

[crisp lark]

8GB

Was OOM a guess or did you see that in a screenshot?

[novel yarrow]

I'm trying to reproduce issue by multiply my higest density area multiple times in SCIM to load such save again on test bench.

[novel yarrow]

8GB is not enough for even fresh start. Game averages 8,5-12GB depends on tier.

[crisp lark]

So the entire server runs in memory?

[desert walrus]

No, but it's a demanding program

[crisp lark]

Well thats a bummer.

Guess Im not going to be hosting my own server.

[desert walrus]

Ram is pretty easy to get, just throw some matching sticks in and double it up to 16

[crisp lark]

VPS is in Canada and ran by OVH. I have 24GB in my home server.

This isn't my home computer. This is meant to be a dedicated server channel, for dedicated servers.

[novel yarrow]

Still not big enough, 27,3 MB (bytes: 28 650 484).

[fading quarry]

Here's one of my sorting facilities with 36 different resources, system had with smart sorting, load balancing and overflow, also had 8 containers in depth with load balancing between each container stack, when I activated it it would instantly corrupt the save.

[novel yarrow]

But corrupt.. how? It cannot be loaded via SCIM anylonger? Or just generates DS crashes instantly?

[fading quarry]

Could not be loaded at all, but that was way back in U1 or U2 so I don't even think I have a copy of that save any more, but generally when I attempt anything similar I get into same trouble.

[novel yarrow]

33,4 MB (bytes: 35 040 497), 882k objects, means You were something close to 1M objects

[fading quarry]

i was at the limit getting the error Assertion failed: Result + NumToAdd <= MaxElements [File:D:\ws\SB-200518130817-657\UE4\Engine\Source\Runtime\CoreUObject\Public\UObject/UObjectArray.h] [Line: 511] Maximum number of UObjects (2162688) exceeded, make sure you update MaxObjectsInGame/MaxObjectsInEditor in project settings. (https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Tutorial:Unreal_Engine_Entity_Limit)

[novel yarrow]

Do they are the same things? UObjects and in-game objects?

[fading quarry]

This limit is imposed from Unreal Engine's memory management implementation and refers to data objects, not in-game objects. quote from wiki.

[novel yarrow]

Seems SCIM is already freaking out at this point, will see if game loads anyway. 6,5GB mem used by browser itself..

[novel yarrow]

At U1 or U2 the save wasn't compressed yet, so 40MB means probably much less today.

[desert walrus]

You know you can just increase that limit?

[novel yarrow]

AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\Engine.ini
[/Script/Engine.GarbageCollectionSettings]
gc.MaxObjectsInEditor=100000000
gc.MaxObjectsInGame=100000000

[desert walrus]

And they've vastly optimized the number of uobjects created, so if you loaded that same save it'd probably be only 2/3 or less of the way to the object limit

So your save wasn't actually corrupted

As I said earlier, the game doesn't really corrupt saves, it would probably be a drive issue or something similar if it did

[fading quarry]

Obviously things have come a long way since U1/U2 with many improvements, but I was just sharing my experience with mega storing/sorting/distribution facilities that all suffer from same performance problems as back then.

[desert walrus]

Performance problems?

There aren't any issues I know of with smart splitters, I use them in large amounts

[novel yarrow]

Move that save to home server it probably runs much better. My hosts are in 32-64GB range, but I'm running them in clusters (mostly) so I can balance load.

[fading quarry]

Yea I don't think its splitters either being the issue, just the sheer volume of items in a very condensed area that server cannot sync with the clients in any good way.

[desert walrus]

Then it would be caused by any big factory, which I know isn't the case

[fading quarry]

Hence why I am saying storing/sorting/distribution facility.

Again I am just sharing my experience with this having played through 15 saves and roughly 3-5k hours of playtime.

[crisp lark]

That doesn’t resolve my issue though. I am trying to set it up for a small community.

[novel yarrow]

Have to rent 12-16GB VPS then.

[robust marlin]

I guys I have been trying to set up a server but it's not working even when I start the server it's offline , have you any idea why ?

[novel yarrow]

I'm actually impressed that this awsome game still doesn't crash. Running this on DS gives possibility to run client with much lower available memory. And I've forgot to change setting, it's MaxPlayers=512 - probably ignored anyway, theoretical maximum is 127.

[desert walrus]

There's a reason that most of the people with huge saves play on a dedi

They're actually quite impressive

[novel yarrow]

Well, multithreading actually does something. But tickrate stays at the same level. Generated save is 45MB size.

[novel yarrow]

LogGame: Generate Objects From RootSet Num: 432195
LogGame: Generate Objects Total Num: 1186419
LogGame: Generate Save Objects Inner: Took 266.528 seconds
LogGame: Generate Dependencies Complete: took 0.334 seconds
LogGame: World Serialization (save): 273.552 seconds
LogGame: Compression: 11.778 seconds
LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.243 seconds
LogGame: Total Save Time took 285.588 seconds

[novel yarrow]

Yes, problem with port forwarding rules.

[novel yarrow]

How can I reproduce this on generated 45MB test save? What should I build?

[novel yarrow]

I have them on nuclear facility, still no crash.

[frosty gale]

bump

[fading quarry]

Ill make a example storage system that usually will make server crash when scaled up.

[novel yarrow]

As blueprint, please 🙂

[fading quarry]

Sure heres a basic example, that being said I no longer use this type of storage as it has always been problematic when scaled up.

not tested and i do believe i forgot some belts in the front connecting the smart splitters to the storage containers

if you increase the distance between each storage container one can also double the amount of smart splitters having a set of splitters in front and merger on the storage input but its quite messy, its easier to add more containers vertically, if more throughput is needed.

[novel yarrow]

Redirected to port 15778, are sure about this? Another DS is running on the same host? If so, other ports need to be re-adjusted on all clients configs.

[novel yarrow]

So when it should crash? on savegame? I'm getting items in.

[fading quarry]

connect it to 4 maxed 780 lines, and build that 20 times next to each other

then set up each with their own item in each vertical container stack and center should be overflow

but that is only a basic set of how it will eventually crash the server, I am talking mega storage/sorting/distribution facility, I would also build that 8 containers vertically and 36 containers horizontally, and 4-8 containers in depth

[novel yarrow]

LoL, a litte bit complicated, don't have such input. 🤣

I have 50k containers there, at 45MB size I'm pretty sure it's mega scale.

[fading quarry]

50k containers just sitting there doing nothing is not the problem either, its once you start to put items through all the containers for sorting/storing/distribution

[novel yarrow]

This area is doing sorting

Ok, gonna make 2M+ objects save then. Including this BP. And I'm pretty sure there is more than 100M+ items stored in the containers already.

[fading quarry]

I'm not sure exactly what exactly we are discussing at this point, but the experience that me and my friends have is that when we make these large distribution hubs on multiplayer/dedicated server is that it has a huge impact on server performance, basically get a unplayable tickrate where entities refuse to load or can take several seconds to load. Or worst case scenario we get corrupted saves. And eventually save takes so long that clients might timeout.

[novel yarrow]

I'm trying to say game engine both of DS and client can handle even such load correctly.
It depends on settings in .ini files and server tune.

[fading quarry]

Some of this might have changed in past few months, we have not played since august last year. But I highly doubt all of this have changed in that short time seeing this has been the case since day one.

[novel yarrow]

And that's true, can't corrupt the save even now.

[fading quarry]

I wish I had kept some of the saves because they had different load errors than entity cap, ill take a look through some backups tomorrow and see if I still have any, but then again these are all now older Updates so at this point they probably have all sort of different problems.

[novel yarrow]

Send me please once You get it, I'll will investigate.

[marsh depot]

where is my beacon

[novel yarrow]

My guess - underground. Remove with SCIM. Reupload save. Fixed.

[marsh depot]

whats scim

[novel yarrow]

satisfactory-calculator.com

[marsh depot]

o

[novel yarrow]

At 53.6MB savegame size
And 1.5M objects on a map
SCIM is no longer able to render save for edit.
It requires 24GB of RAM to load up on DS.

The game itself still works.

[golden gate]

Is there a command for the console (use Pterodactyl) to send a message from the console to the chat on the whole server?

[novel yarrow]

No such implemented, sadly. Other games have it, we know, but.. SF not.

[golden gate]

Alright, nice to know, ty 😅

[hushed gate]

Satisfactory Questions

@golden gate You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
<3 @desert walrus

[desert walrus]

Make a suggestion for it there though

[kindred garden]

Does anyone know a trick to solve this problem

[novel yarrow]

Try this in the Engine.ini on a client:
[/Script/OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver]
InitialConnectTimeout=300.0
ConnectionTimeout=300.0

[kindred garden]

Engine.ini is somewhere in steamapps\common\Satisfactory, right?

[novel yarrow]

AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

You can start with lower value eg. 60, 120 to see if this helps, maybe some other issue like server is offline.

[kindred garden]

is a game restart enough, or is a pc restart necessary ?

[novel yarrow]

Game restart only.

[kindred garden]

sadly that didn't fix it

[twin pewter]

When running my server (via ssh) it looks like everything boots up and then it just repeats Signal 11 caught. again and again until it crashes with the text Segmentation fault (core dumped). Does anyone know a fix for this? I've tried using the -multihome argument when using ./FactoryServer.sh

[novel yarrow]

Something OS related, eg. bad RAM or Selinux killing process externally.

[twin pewter]

see it ran the first time, but I didn't have the ports open. I then opened the ports and this happened

[novel yarrow]

-multihome=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx or -multihome xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ?

[twin pewter]

the first one

[novel yarrow]

Close the ports then to see what happends, if this works then somebody attempts connection to that UDP port probably since there is unexpected segmentation fault.

So apparently, at 60MB save I've reached state that cannot be fixed anymore.
DS refuses to load such file immediately shutting down, increasing UE4ObjectLimits furthermore doesn't help.

LogGameMode: Display: Match State Changed from WaitingToStart to LeavingMap
LogGameState: Match State Changed from WaitingToStart to LeavingMap
LogNet: Browse: /Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persistent_Level??sessionName=?startloc=Grass Fields?Visibility=SV_Private?listen?loadgame=59MB-megasave
LogLoad: LoadMap: /Game/FactoryGame/Map/GameLevel01/Persistent_Level??sessionName=?startloc=Grass Fields?Visibility=SV_Private?listen?loadgame=59MB-megasave
LogWorld: BeginTearingDown for /Game/FactoryGame/Map/DedicatedserverEntry
LogNet: World NetDriver shutdown EOSNetDriver_2147482541 [GameNetDriver]
LogNet: DestroyNamedNetDriver EOSNetDriver_2147482541 [GameNetDriver]
LogExit: GameNetDriver EOSNetDriver_2147482541 shut down
LogNet: World NetDriver shutdown IpNetDriver_2147482525 [IpNetDriver_2147482525]
LogNet: DestroyNamedNetDriver IpNetDriver_2147482525 [IpNetDriver_2147482525]

[twin pewter]

I'm deleting and reinstalling the server, will try that when i'm done though

[twin pewter]

still get it after removing all the ports

do you want full crash logs?

[novel yarrow]

No, this is unusual behaviour; suspect on hardware or memory constrains in the hosting company.

[twin pewter]

shouldnt be memory, i have 24gb

i'm running an emulator that emulates arm to amd, could that be the culprit?

[novel yarrow]

What platform is this? x86_64?

[twin pewter]

wdym

the emulator is FEX

[novel yarrow]

On a host where DS is running

DS doesn't support ARM.

[twin pewter]

but i'm emulating it so it's running amd

the strangest thing is it ran at first

[novel yarrow]

Setup like this is not supported, it's still AMD64 emulation on ARM system.

[twin pewter]

i know

and i expected it not to work

but it did on the first try

[novel yarrow]

Your host is AArch64, dedicated server requires x86_64, it an't gonna work, even emulated. It was answered at QA: questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6154aa79831c85205234f9d5

[nova oak]

Hello guys, does have anyone experience with this error? -> <ErrorMessage>Assertion failed: (Index >= 0) & (Index < ArrayNum) [File:Runtime/Core/Public\Containers/Array.h] [Line: 674] Array index out of bounds: 333 from an array of size 333</ErrorMessage>

Server crashed many times..

[loud folio]

Does anyone know what a big server is?

[novel yarrow]

What do You mean ?

[loud folio]

like one i could join that has a lot of players

[novel yarrow]

#looking-for-group-old is the only way for go, theoretical maximum is 127 pioneers.

[loud folio]

ok

the link to create a form doesnt work???

oh wait

im dumb nv,

[frosty gale]

hey guys so I am running a server off amp I can join the server but when my friend uses the public ip and proper port he gets an error code

[glass mortar]

Has anyone seemed to figure out the "SIGSEGV: invalid attempt to write memory at address 0x0000000000000003" issue/issues?

[abstract stream]

Any one able to have friends connect to your server but getting timedout when you connect? (upped the time out limit)

[proud terrace]

My friend is having the same error now.

[novel yarrow]

@frosty gale @abstract stream @proud terrace Do You all have this setting configured? /etc/systemd/system/satisfactory.service ---> FactoryServer.sh -DisablePacketRouting Each server I'm currently deploying has it set by default. This requires all 3 ports to be correctly forwarded.

@glass mortar not enough memory?

[proud terrace]

/etc/systemd/system/satisfactory.service ?

[novel yarrow]

Yep, I'm running it on Linux via SystemD. Find a match in Your host OS.

[proud terrace]

:/

[novel yarrow]

How do You start it? .CMD or .SH ?

[proud terrace]

idk

[novel yarrow]

When DS doesn't work first to check is:

1. Is service running?
2. Is service listening? eg:
   Linux:
   netstat -an | grep udp
   udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:7777 0.0.0.0:
   udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:15000 0.0.0.0:*
   udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:15777 0.0.0.0:**
   Windows:
   netstat -an | find "UDP"
3. Check if You can connect it on LAN address (if possible, unless hosted somewhere else)
4. Check if ports are correctly forwarded
5. Check if You can access it via public address

[proud terrace]

Wow

mdrr

[glass mortar]

@novel yarrow The server is a virtual Ubuntu server with 64GB memory which seems odd if that shouldn't be enough.

[novel yarrow]

This message is indicating that an unhandled exception has occurred, specifically a segmentation fault (SIGSEGV) caused by an invalid attempt to write to memory.
Could occur due to a null pointer dereference, buffer overflow, or stack corruption. It means that the program is trying to access a memory location that it is not supposed to access, it could be caused by a bug in the program or a problem with the system memory.

Also could be Vulkan-related. It has been reported to appears in Docker containers for UE programs if that helps.

[glass mortar]

@novel yarrow so I suppose this is an issue that has to be sorted by lgsm which I run it through

[novel yarrow]

Depends. Is this fresh save? Does SF service even start and can be claimed? I see no such reports on github.com/GameServerManagers/LinuxGSM/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+satisfactory .

[glass mortar]

The server starts and runs as usual and can crash midgame and throws that specific error message every time

[novel yarrow]

questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6182027e831c852052359486 probably needs upvote

[glass mortar]

I've been looking around a lot about it but haven't found anyone that has found any solution for it.

[novel yarrow]

So far I've been trying to forced crash my instances and only got it when save reached 60MB.
That's around 1.7M in-game objects / around <100M UE4-objects / 500km+ of belts/power lines.

[glass mortar]

I've got the Saved Folders Logs folder at 119MB.
I'm not sure if that's a problem but feels unlikely

[novel yarrow]

I mean savegame.

[glass mortar]

where do I locate that?

[novel yarrow]

Default is: ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server/

[glass mortar]

Save is 63MB

That's the whole folder.

When I look locally on the computer I play from. Which is a Windows machine

11mb on the server

the whole folder

[rancid wave]

hey everyone, do you guys have any good dedicated server providers? im planning on setting one up. the ones i tried were gportal, nitrado and 4netplayers... and all of them are VERY bad for big worlds...

[near rapids]

Should look into dedicated servers

[glass mortar]

I have a rotation of 4 saved files and none of these are bigger than 2,2mb

[near rapids]

That's your save size

[novel yarrow]

It should be more than enough, that's something like 10-11GB of RAM needed, if LGSM runs this inside Docker then that's were I would look at.

[glass mortar]

Yeah, I kinda got into the right direction so I'm troubleshooting it

@novel yarrow Thank you!

[crystal eagle]

hi I have setup again my Satisfactory server with steamcmd, my question if i may, where do the save files go? I'm going crazy 😓

[novel yarrow]

Easiest way to find out, make a save with unique name then search for it in all paths.

[twin pewter]

do you need to have satisfactory on epic to get the dedicated server addon

[desert walrus]

You should just be able to search for satisfactory dedicated server

[twin pewter]

i have

it’s in my library apparently

but i cant see it anywhere

[vast carbon]

They go to this folder (on Windows) under your user profile:

%localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

[crystal eagle]

Thanks guys

[remote tulip]

Unfortunately you have listed the major players in that space. Sounds like what you need is to run a personal dedicated server.

I know $$$ is an issue for some / most but you can get older computers on eBay and use that as a dedicated server. You don't need latest hardware to run a dedicated server. I know this is not the type of answer you were looking for but it sounds like it fits your needs better than the answer you were seeking.

For example I bought a old "HP Z420" for around $300.
Specs:
CPU - Xeon E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz, 10 Cores, 20 Logical
RAM - 64 GB DDR3
OS - Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
HDD - 1 TB 5400 rpm (upgraded to SSD for better performance. Highly recommend this step)

I have ran Avorian, Conan Exiles, Satisfactory, Valheim, Necesse, Rust, and Ark Survival Evolved. Often with 2 server instances running at the same time without issues.

If you do decide to go this route make sure you have the upload speeds to support the amount of players that are going to be connecting to server.
For example, Steam recommends at least 1140 kbps for a Half-Life Dedicated Server instance with 32 players. For more modern games, the requirements may be higher. Minecraft recommends at least 15 Mbps for a game server with more than nine players.

[hollow breach]

You can also find cheap old dell optiplex models from government agencies selling off their old hardware. They make for cheap home servers and they are relatively small so you can easily stash it in a corner, on a shelf, or somewhere.

[remote tulip]

I asked this question before but I have new details.

Details / Problem
I got this crash that was occurring what seemed to be 1x-4x an hour but only when dismantling. With some help from the community we concluded it was the rain server error crash. But later on while staring at the logs I noticed that the pathway of the errors is on drive "D:". I don't have 2 hard drives so this caught my attention. Somehow my 1 TB SSD had a split partition of only like 600MB. Which I am assuming is why the "D:" drive pathway was showing up.

Steps Taken to Correct

• Backed up the saved game file.
  _ Backed up game.ini, Scalability.ini, and ServerSettings.ini files.
• Deleted the data on the "D:" partition.
• Merged the "D:" and "C:" partition back into one partition.
• Deleted the SteamCMD folder, Satisfactory folder, and the app/local/Factorygame folder.
• Reinstalled/setup SteamCMD and Satisfactory server.
• Copied the backed up files and placed them to their appropriate locations.

The Result
I am still getting the crash with the exact same file path "D:".

Questions

• Are my backed up files calling a none existing pathway?
• Am I not installing correctly?
• Does this rain server crash always give "D:" as a pathway?

(To view image click on image and then underneath image far left click "open in browser")

[junior dock]

I feel you,i have this problem on a raid 1 volume

[novel yarrow]

Hi, this isn't real path. TC_agent stands for dev tool used by developers, the path was just "hardcoded" into game code. So You're getting false information completly not related to real D:\ path. There isn't much information (for us, users) to debug issue.

[novel yarrow]

No issues on mirrored volumes, what OS are You using?

[junior dock]

windows server 2022 datacenter

just moved the satisfactory to a ssd,same issue

[novel yarrow]

Can You show the output of fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo x: command, where X: is drive where dedicated server is installed?

[junior dock]

in a bit, i need to boot the server again

Was here

is here

[novel yarrow]

BPS is 512; not NTFS issue. Hmm, something else then.

[novel yarrow]

More info from FactoryGame.log needed to investigate issue.

[proud quail]

Guys, hi.
there are some problems i bumped into and i wanted ur help to sole them

1. will dedcated server work on Ryzen 5 2600?
2. (pls) give me a link to some normal tutorials with "gray" ip.
   already thankfull to u

[nimble sapphire]

hmm, I don't know why it would have issues with ryzen, that seems a fairly powerful cpu.
What do you mean about gray ip?

[proud quail]

i mean its not white(we dont pay provider for it to be white)

[nimble sapphire]

oh by gray you mean its a dynamic ip (ie it changes over time but its a public IP) or do you mean its like an internal network ip (ie 192.168.1.150)

[proud quail]

yeah, but in Gmod, Mine, and others i usually use vpn

[junior dock]

sorry for late message,had some issues with the domain

[slow heart]

so i'm trying to setup NSSM for windows dedicated server, but i'm getting "unexpected status SERVICE_PAUSED in response to START control" after running the start service command

[ripe steppe]

System specs ?

[fading quarry]

Is there currently a problem with servers crashing once every time you start it? We are having trouble with our server always crashing once every time we restart it and first player tries to connect to the server.

And yes the crash only happens once per server restart. And it does also occur if the server crashes because of slide/jump/dismantle/blueprint bug.

[fading quarry]

I'll take that as a no.

[red mountain]

Smbd knows how to fix NAT TBD

[desert walrus]

Nat TBD by itself isn't an issue

[red mountain]

Yes it says so

[desert walrus]

Nat TBD isn't your issue

[red mountain]

What is it then

we have the same mode

same edition

[desert walrus]

Any mods?

[red mountain]

No we started playing yesterday

[desert walrus]

Are you doing p2p or dedi?

[red mountain]

whats that

[desert walrus]

Regular multiplayer or a server

[red mountain]

Regular

[desert walrus]

Ok, this is the wrong channel then

Can I see a screenshot of the error?

[red mountain]

sry but i have problems with screenshots

[desert walrus]

How are you trying to connect?

[red mountain]

Via adress and just pressing join since we are friends on epic

[desert walrus]

Address meaning game id?

[red mountain]

Yes

[desert walrus]

And where are you putting it?

[red mountain]

Join via session ID -- Session Id: put here

[desert walrus]

Try using the friend invite

[fading quarry]

Fyi there is no reason to currently run experimental version since EA and EX versions are currently the same, it potentially just leads to critical bugs once they start patching again.

[red mountain]

We tried but I didnt see the invite

[red mountain]

I didnt come

[plain mulch]

hello ficsit people, hopefully someone can help me with a linux service problem.

i folllowed the wiki and can run server just fine, but when i try to run it as a service i get an error message

[slow heart]

r5 3600, 3080, 16gb ram, not running game on the same computer

i'm guessing it could be an issue with epic games? I can launch the server just fine via the epic games launcher

[peak hemlock]

have you tried running it inside a docker container or screen session? maybe that will work

[hollow breach]

Did you set up the service correctly? Without knowing what has been done, all I can say is to check the file you made for the service and that your directories all match where they are located.

[twin pewter]

do you need satisfactory on epic to run their “dedicated server” addon? it says i have it on the page but i cant find it in my library

[frosty gale]

anyone tried Indifferent Broccoli hosting

their offering seems good

[desert walrus]

Which one are you looking at?

[frosty gale]

12 dollar one, 8 players

[desert walrus]

I'm skeptical, just from looking at them
They don't provide any details

[frosty gale]

Thats my concern

I dont see any specs

I tried setting on some other hosting and my save burned trough the 8gb ram limit

It aint shit

[desert walrus]

Yeah, dedi needs 12 gigs minimum

[frosty gale]

Bunch of them advertise low price but for specs like 5gb ram, you can take more but pay 3 times more

[desert walrus]

I'd shoot them a message and ask about their server specs

And whatever awnser they give you, make sure it's not shared between multiple instances

Actually @frosty gale they have a discord

[frosty gale]

have you ever had a Satisfactory server hosted ?

[desert walrus]

I have played and worked with dedis, but never through a commercial service. I generally prefer everything I can myself, weather it's satis or not lol

[novel yarrow]

And I find this is best way to deal with Satis DS due it's requirements. I've hosted much more game servers, but none of them was so resource intensive.

[novel yarrow]

Sorry for delay, really busy week. Will look at this once I got some spare time.

[novel yarrow]

No such issues on any of my dedics. I see Server restarting in... Message, but once restarted it's still running stable.

[fading quarry]

The disassemble bug is starting to drive us insane, I am starting to suspect its something else I have not seen many post about it, we crash every 5-10 minutes when we build on our factories.

[novel yarrow]

I could not reproduce this, disassembled entire row of 10 x 25 power storages with the lines recently, nothing special happend.

[desert walrus]

That makes me suspect a corrupt save

Or rather a corrupted or bugged item within the save

[fading quarry]

We did load a megaprint on the server when we started our new game. We also suspect that maybe there might be some issues with it.

[desert walrus]

Upload your save to SCIM, resave it, and load the version saved from scim

That may fix the issue

[fading quarry]

we clean it through SCIM nearly every day

[desert walrus]

Play around with it

Start deleting different sections of your world, see which one fixes it

Once you know the general area, narrow it down from there

[fading quarry]

There are a TON of bugged lifters tho

[desert walrus]

Those won't cause a crash

[fading quarry]

that said this is the error we do get every time

[desert walrus]

You might try increasing your client timeout delay

[fading quarry]

its a complete server crash

[novel yarrow]

DriverTime is abysnormal high, isn't Your server overloaded? eg. swapping to disk or something like that...

[desert walrus]

Oh, it's a host crash

I was thinking client lol

Weird that IsServer = no

@novel yarrow IIRC that's normally not true

[fading quarry]

I am afraid thats the case I think its on a huge cluster with load balancing, but its really hard to say how the architecture really looks like as its hosted on a cloud service.

LogMemory: Virtual Memory: 134141232.00 MB used,  76498.42 MB free, 134217728.00 MB total```

[novel yarrow]

Virtual Memory: 134141232.00 MB used --> is this actually correct?

[fading quarry]

No idea, its hosted @ 4players and its a fully locked down system.

[desert walrus]

134tb in page lol

[fading quarry]

that is what I was thinking as well...

[fresh parcel]

why would it be trying to allocate so much memory though?

[desert walrus]

That's total system pool listed in log

[novel yarrow]

So this machine has 256GB RAM, from which 85,76GB is used
and is paging to disk 127,93TB.
Is this correct?

You have some serious problem with memory management in there..

[desert walrus]

170 ish used

[fading quarry]

As said that is hosted at a cloud hosting company that uses a website interfaces that is fully locked down. There is no access to anything but save files and a few of the config files everything else cannot be accessed.

[desert walrus]

What hosting provider?

[fading quarry]

4netplayers

[novel yarrow]

This is usually seen

I belive there are multiple systems crashing on such host

Admin got fired or something

[fading quarry]

its cheap AF so I assume that they over commit A LOT on their servers.

I see that the server also runs a AMD EPYC 7401P 24-Core Processor, and compared to my Xeon X5650 X5680 the single thread performance is not all much that better so I might pull it off of that server and host it myself, my server just cant handle as many players when I host it unfortunately.

[novel yarrow]

We have just analysed our overprovision ratio and 2.5:1 is generally good, but at 4-5:1 You have red alert.
Assuming this data is correct, at 128TB page, they're just dumping memory to storage system, which would explain all these crashes You're experiencing.
Unless this is some kind of bug not showing all info, as this isn't possible to left unnoticed.

reddit.com/r/avorion/comments/kuctxi/4netplayers_disaster/ Reddit knew it already 2y ago AMD EPYC 7401P has a base clock of 2.0GHz, which isn't really good. I would request refund.

This all mess is caused by $$$chasing$$$money$$$ since they wanna earn as much as they can from as much clients they can get.
In our env when it reach load treshold we upgrade hosts or add new one to distribute load.. this isn't hard to handle.

[novel yarrow]

How many players are building on Your save?

[fading quarry]

most of the time 2-3 occasionally 6-7

[novel yarrow]

Xeon E5-1650 v2 @ 3.5GHz
24GB RAM
can handle +/-55-57MB save, I'm pretty sure it can host game for 8 players

[slow heart]

does anyone know??

[vestal solar]

I am stumped. My brother and I are trying to start a server. We live in different houses and I'm connecting from outside the network. He started the server on his computer and we did the whole setup thing with port-forwarding. I am able to connect to the server when it is running on his computer. We actually have an old pc that we are going to run the server from. However when I try to connect to the server on that pc, I can not connect. I don't understand why it won't work if it works when it runs on his pc.

[zenith wyvern]

Make sure that everything is port forwarded correctly.

[vestal solar]

I shouldn't have to change anything in the router since its the same network. I did add the ports in the firewall though. I swear everything is the exact same. I don't know why it doesn't connect. Its driving me crazy

[zenith wyvern]

Who has the old pc

[vestal solar]

My brother has it

And I am able to connect to the server when he runs it on his pc

[red mountain]

Can somebody advise me any good server plan?

We are in two (players), and we want a monthly rent

[novel yarrow]

(not an advertise, just example) It seems likely running local HW in small case is still more worth than renting bare-metal server from hosting companies, I assume no ppl here does such as costs are bit expensive ?

[red mountain]

what is local HW

[novel yarrow]

Local hardware = local server hosted by yourself, at home, powerful, low-power miniITX build or similar small factor system.

[red mountain]

where can I buy smth like that

[quick snow]

Hi All and developers,

after a powerfailure the dedicated server does not start anymore. i have attached the logfile.
also already did steam -> verify local files on the server.

can anyone explain what's wrong or what i can do to fix it? would be very much appreciated as we already spend like 1000 hours in the game.

thank you!

[novel yarrow]

Please take a look at:
Lenovo ThinkCentre M900 Tiny systems
HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM (USFF)
HP Pro 400 G9 SFF
custom builds on miniITX boards with specialized cases/PSU
It all depends on a budget.

[novel yarrow]

I could not find specific error there, looks like server is up and running, saving world correctly, just kicking You out?

[novel yarrow]

Error: FCompression::UncompressMemory - Failed to uncompress memory (6912/131072) from address 0000022DC4E838F0 using format Zlib, this may indicate the asset is corrupt! --> save is corrupted. Reload another autosave. Also check Your RAM, possible issue.

[quick snow]

The old pc has a different ip address then your brother's pc, you can only forward the ports to 1 ip address. so you need to change the router to forward the requests to the old pc instead of your brothers pc

[quick snow]

Hi TooMeeK, thank you! but how can i reload another autosave if the server wont start? i have multiple backups but don't know where to put them in the file structure, all paths are default so application is in
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\SatisfactoryDedicatedServer\FactoryGame
The savegame is in the appdate directory so
C:\Users<username>\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved

[novel yarrow]

Make a backup of entire C:\Users<username>\AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved folder. Then stop the server and remove file mentioned in the log: loadgame=DawnWorld - Grass Fields_autosave_1. Assuming session name is set it always try to load last autosave if setting to run if no players are connected is Enabled.

[quick snow]

Server is running now, thanks!

[novel yarrow]

I also suggest - as always - FG.AutosaveInterval=xxxx autosave second time and FGSaveSession.mNumRotatingAutosaves properly scaled.

For me, 20mins, 10 last autosaves is good.

[junior dock]

after it kicks me out if i try to reconnect i see in the physical server console that the server has crashed and its restarting

i use amp cubecoders btw

but i don't think it's from there

[novel yarrow]

Ah, AMP.. I've dumped this solution, I prefer pure SF server running in containers. Had some issues with AMP eg. server not coming up (Server name pending) and so.

[quick snow]

hmm sounds good, which file i need to edit to accomplish this?

[novel yarrow]

Engine.ini:

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGSaveSession]
mNumRotatingAutosaves=6

The other one in server console: FG.AutosaveInterval=1200

[novel yarrow]

I'm trying to test my "testbench" save on singleplayer, looks like I got hit Maximum number of UObjects (2162688) exceeded, make sure you update MaxObjectsInGame/MaxObjectsInEditor/MaxObjectsInProgram in project settings.

But I have already set AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Config\WindowsNoEditor\Engine.ini to values:
[/Script/Engine.GarbageCollectionSettings]
gc.MaxObjectsInEditor=100000000
gc.MaxObjectsInGame=100000000

Any ideas? Is maxobject setting different for SP?

yeah, it suppose to be: AppData\Local\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

[marsh dew]

Yeah I personally wouldn’t pay that much. I do have hardware myself, but I have colo space at a local DC that all my servers and shit are at

[fading quarry]

Running on my server now and issues we had, had to do with the host that we were previously using >.<

no more crashing every 5 minutes... now the weird part it was mainly only a problem when we were dissembling stuff that the crashes would occur

[novel yarrow]

#screenshots message Ok so here You have answer on question why running DS is better for large saves than running singleplayer/multiplayer client only. Game basically eats 44GB of RAM and ends up in crash where the same save loaded on DS needs only 24GB of RAM + some for a client (let's say up to 6GB) and.. doesn't crash. FPS is also much lower (I'm getting like 6 FPS rn) than running on dedicated (25-30 in heavy-density areas, 70+ in empty spaces).

Yeah, another crash on single. Assertion failed: Index < SizeX * SizeY [File:D:/BuildAgent/work/78a794e88763017d/UE4/Engine/Source/Runtime/Renderer/Private/SceneOcclusion.cpp] [Line: 716] CSS: Consider disabling HZBO in video settings --> what HZBO is? EDIT: Hierarchical Z-Buffer Occlusion. Now game doesn't crash.

[novel yarrow]

DS running in VM - live migration test. No issues, game still works regardless UDP transmission being used.

[wide ivy]

Hey Pioneers o/ I'm playing on a server with a friend, and recently we got a problem. We're playing around with Trains and when we build a new Train-Station, its not marked on the Map, but instead it shows up at Coordinates 0, 0. Also we cant Schedule it for Self-Driving because it says, that the station is unreachable.

This Bug occured once before, and in an Editing-Tool it showed up as a Boom Box at 0, 0

[brittle wedge]

Is there a consensus here on which dedicated server is easier to setup and mod? code any different at all? Asking because I owned the Epic version and the SSM/mod manager would not start correctly with the Epic version, so also bought steam. Now I can get dedi server and SMM running, but if I use steam version on my main workstaition - then the other system kicks me/vice versa becuase they see the same steam user logged in on the server PC and on the main play "workstation" PC.

I can run steam version on my "server" computer, and epic version on my main/play workstation, is this an effective work around?

[novel yarrow]

Mods on dedics are not supported.

[quick snow]

Thank you!

[brittle wedge]

Oh. Ah hah moment. So run the full game in multi play mode for mods? No other way? I would like to load up extended tiers with friends

[rose coyote]

Your server won't load if you use mods. It'll just close itself. I would also recomend using cmd line to load your dedicated server instead of steam because you can't start the game on a different machine if steam has loaded the server under your username.

[frozen laurel]

Is there a way to automatically boot the server after it restarts on the 24 hour mark???

[fading quarry]

multiple ways to achieve that, look at cron jobs on linux and scheduled tasks on windows.

[analog kraken]

Hi i have an issue where my dedicated server dosen´t save my progress. so when it starts up again everything is lost. And i have an issue that my friends cant join my dedicated server. Help is needed! xD

[fading quarry]

Without knowing what might not work, could you try save manually using the server manager and confirm that the save works?

[analog kraken]

yes that works. but io have to load that save filr when i start de server again

sorry for my bad typing

[fading quarry]

do you have auto save when players exit?

[analog kraken]

yes

[fading quarry]

in the console does the server even attempt to save when you exit the server?

[frozen laurel]

@fading quarry thabks for the insite.. ill check out cron jobs..

[fading quarry]

chatgpt ftw

[analog kraken]

It says "[2023.02.18-10.52.43:763][152]LogGame: Generate Dependencies Complete: took 0.003 seconds
[2023.02.18-10.52.43:833][152]LogSave: Warning: New/Old Root size mismatch!
[2023.02.18-10.52.43:843][152]LogGame: World Serialization (save): 0.559 seconds
[2023.02.18-10.52.43:920][152]LogGame: Compression: 0.076 seconds
[2023.02.18-10.52.43:921][152]LogGame: Write To Disk: 0.001 seconds
[2023.02.18-10.52.43:923][152]LogGame: Write Backup to Disk and Cleanup time: 0.003 seconds
[2023.02.18-10.52.43:930][152]LogGame: Total Save Time took 0.646 seconds"

so i guees it saving or trys to save

[fading quarry]

so its the loading that is not working when you restart the server?

[analog kraken]

yeah i guess so it just goes back to where it was when i started the load file when i got the dedicated server working

[fading quarry]

Did you by any chance load a save you had from before? Or modify one through SCIM? We found on our server that If we messed around with saves too much we had to remove all other saves or server would occassionally load a "old" save, so if and when we mess with saves we always remove all saves including auto saves. Then load that in the server manager in-game.

[near rapids]

Does session names match?

[analog kraken]

yes i did load a save from a friends pc that was started yesterday. no moding. okej, so is the "Warning: New/Old Root size mismatch!" in the log thats maybe is wrong then? so it just loading that spesific file everytime?

the session name might F stuff up? that my be wrong om my becouse i got it from a friend. The .sav fiel

file*

might*

[fading quarry]

If you have a lot of saves in the saves folder make a copy of these to somewhere safe then remove all other saves than the one you want to load, then load it manually in the server manager in-game and try again, we had a similar issue where server kept loading a older save hence we would keep rolling back to that save on every restart.

[analog kraken]

okej, sound good i will try that! 😄

brb

should i load the sav.file in the gaming pc or the server pc?

[fading quarry]

through the administrator interface "Server Manager" so file needs to be placed in the save folder on the server.

[analog kraken]

okej thanks

🙂

[rose coyote]

So, it's been more than a year since there has been any new updates on dedicated servers, any idea when we can get an update? Mod Support?

Also, maybe the problem is unique to me, but it seems that my server crashes about every 8 hours. Does anyone have any information or ideas on that?

[fading quarry]

iirc they have already said that officially they will never support mods but don't have any issues with 3d party mods itself. But the support burden of supporting mods is extremely huge and thus no official support for it.

As for crashing every 8 hours seems strange, that being said when we ran our server on a cloud hosting service we would crash constantly most likely because a lot of gamehosting providers over-provision (sell more capacity than what the system actually have) their systems to extreme lengths.

[rose coyote]

I'm running on my own machine so I know it's not that sort of issue

[novel yarrow]

Sorry guys, I'm leaving this discord server. It has been nice to meet You all, hope we meet on some large Satis dedic somewhere in the future.

[polar crypt]

Hey all, I am trying to run a dedicated server off my machine. It was working fine initially but then after we hopped off for the night when we tried getting back on my buddy got the server name pending not authenticated error when viewing the server from his server manager. Now two later(today) when trying to get the server to run so we could trouble more, the server will not evening come online when I launch it. I have double checked all my port forwards. Any idea on how to fix this?

[rose coyote]

Is your machine on a static IP?

Did you create a windows firewall rule with the correct ports and port forward your router?

@polar crypt

[polar crypt]

yes i made the firewall rules and no it is not on static ip @rose coyote

[rose coyote]

You're going to need to dedicate an address otherwise your globabl address will change

[polar crypt]

okay ill try that, thank you

[desert walrus]

Noooo
We'll miss you

[obsidian violet]

what are the options for running a dedicated server with mods? I have a separate tower just for hosting and wanna set something up.

[fading quarry]

You can't run dedicated with mods, only multiplayer at this time. Do check out SMM site and discord for updated information on this matter. https://ficsit.app/

[tulip gulch]

Hey. Where to control Serversetting. I couldn’t find a place where I can turn off, that enemy’s doesn’t attack you?

[obsidian violet]

Cool, ty for the information

[formal cloak]

Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone would have a clue what they're looking at if I post a couple logs of when my dedicated server on my PC crashed as for a reason why?
I don't see anything obvious, but not great at digging through logs

[visual kernel]

Could someone help me troubleshoot my dedicated server? I'm trying to have someone join but they aren't able to find the server, not sure it it's them or me.

[formal cloak]

have port forwarding turned on if you're hosting locally?

[visual kernel]

Yes, I do.

[formal cloak]

Could you connect fine?

[visual kernel]

I could connect, and I connected through my laptop from the same network.

[formal cloak]

And if you've ever hosted any games before did those work?
Some ISP's don't give you a public facing IP address (my last ISP I was unable to host anything until I asked them to give me a public facing IP) - that being said some companies charge for it or just won't do it

[visual kernel]

I haven't hosted any games before now.

[formal cloak]

did you give them your IP that was found on a "whats my public IP" websites?

that being said I would NOT post your IP here for your own sake just in case

[visual kernel]

No, I didn't...

Is that the one I need to forward ports for?

[formal cloak]

from the wiki as well btw

most routers you don't forward it to THAT IP you forward any incoming traffic on those ports to the IP that is your computer hosting it on your network

so like this - ( since this IP won't hurt that anyone sees)

Source IP is anything, then it goes into your internal IP of your hosting PC

if you wanted to get more secure could only open up source ips that are your friends IP addresses would help lock it down

[visual kernel]

Does it matter if I have port forwarding set to both TCP and UPD?

[formal cloak]

Work in IT myself but suck at networking, I would ONLY do UDP as that is what is said to do

(in theory may not matter) but i'd rather do it exactly as in guide to help troubleshoot later

(that being said if anyone has a clue what's causing this: let me know) - I did put in questions

[gaunt fox]

Can we not use mods on dedicated servers?

[nimble sapphire]

not at this time

[quartz bramble]

Looks to me like some files are missing/corrupted/invalid and it might take a reinstall of the dedi software

[formal cloak]

I did just do a verify and came back "okay" will see if it breaks again

[quartz bramble]

👍

If that doesn’t work I’d make a backup of the saves and then reinstall the server software

[formal cloak]

sounds like a plan, thanks for some insight

[fading quarry]

That is the disassemble bug.

Until it gets fixed have auto save interval set to 600 seconds or less, even though thats annoying AF with the lag spike.

[formal cloak]

mainly just because it may still crash so it saves often? Or does that just stop it from happening?

[fading quarry]

It'll definitely continue to crash.

No way around it unfortunately, when you disassemble a part and a certain check (rain) run at same time it'll crash, its a silly bug, but again unfortunately nothing we can do about it but hope that we get a fix soon.

[formal cloak]

thanks for the info! - advised my friends to pay attention at least to try and have it happen less!

[spice sand]

everytime i try to start the server it tells me this.
anyone can help me?

[rose coyote]

You didn't configure your port forwarding or firewall rules correctly.

[spice sand]

i see that on wiki but I do not understand what I have to do (i m using epic game)

[quick snow]

Hey there 🙂 is there a way to setup a time that the server restarts ? seems like it restarts everyday 30 minutes earlier? some ini setting or console setting maybe? Thanks for all the advice, is very much aprecitated!

[quartz bramble]

could make a task scheduler for it, but I dont believe there is a built in method for it

[visual kernel]

I had someone connect to my server yesterday, running it off of my own PC, after we were done there was going to be no one playing again until today so I shut it down. Now today trying to bring it back up, I couldn't connect until I re-added "localhost" on my computer, and the other person can't connect (shows as offline) as well as my laptop connected to a different network.

I changed no other settings with my PC or firewalls since yesterday.

Any suggestions how to fix that?

[visual kernel]

Just now was double checking my port forwarding settings and my laptop connected for a moment and got the server name, but as soon as I noticed it had happened it disconnected and shows as offline again.

Game is still up and running on my main PC.

Well, got my laptop to connect by deleting and re-adding the server and now it's loaded into the game... I don't get it.

[tropic steeple]

Hey there!

We have quite some trouble to play on an online server with friends and I was wondering if u guys had any tips (like the best server host) since we keep having crashes and bug issues. I don't know if Coffee Stain ever announced an official server host or anything, but I could use a bit of help!

Thanks for the help!

[rose coyote]

Mature minded gamers will give a brief overview, but every router is different. If you can't figure out how to port forward your router and set up a firewall rule, nobody here can help you much.

[rose coyote]

The dedicated server is buggy, a remote host is not an ideal situation IMHO.

[tropic steeple]

wdym?

[rose coyote]

It crashes a lot and requires manual restart.

[tropic steeple]

is there any available solution yet?

[rose coyote]

To what?

It's an experimental release.

[tropic steeple]

yeah i know, but did coffee stain gave any clue on when it would be solved?

[rose coyote]

IIAM

TLDR No

[tropic steeple]

k thanks anyway!

[rose coyote]

Ya, no worries. If you need help doing local host I've been running my own for a little over a week now. I'm usually lurking.

[tropic steeple]

I'm trying to understand using the fandom page and a video but it's quite hard since I've never done something like that

[rose coyote]

Mature minded gamers has a good tutorial.

[tropic steeple]

Only problem is that I'm using EG and not steam...

[rose coyote]

Can't help you with that. Steam is love, steam is life.

Also, the server can still be installed via steam command and you can still connect to that server through EG

[tropic steeple]

but the host must be on steam and not EG?

the game was given on EG, that's why I got it 🙂

[rose coyote]

No. You run the dedicated server through a bat file. Anyone can host a server without owning the game.

You then login into your client and connect to the server.

[tropic steeple]

ooooooooh I've so much to learn

[frozen laurel]

Is there a way to upload a blueprint to the dedicated server?

Never mind... found it

[spice sand]

Thank for help, it seems to work i don't know how

[noble crane]

I am trying to host a satisfactory server on a Linux machine but it keeps failing. I had to create symlinks from /usr/libexec/steamcmd/linux64/steamclient.so to /home/john/.steam/sdk64/steamclient.so to get that file to load.

I've tried:

Running with -MultiHome=192.168.1.25

Running with -nosteam

Running with -MultiHome=192.168.1.25 and -nosteam

Allowing both port 15777, 15000 and 7777 throuh my firewall with both udp and tcp.

Signing into my Steam account with steamcmd(Allthough i own Satisfactory on Epic Games)

System info:

OS: openSUSE Tumbleweed x86_64

Storage: Some random SSD I found.(Never had any kind of corruption problems)

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz

Logs: https://pastebin.com/ZNLAZ0XN

The problem occurs when the server is loading the steam api, aperently it fails to do so.

I think I'm missing some .so files but I'm not entirely sure.

[frosty gale]

log says that can't find steamclient.so , you can try make symbolic link to into your satisfactory foulder something like from /usr/libexec/steamcmd/linux64/steamclient.so to ~/Satisfactory (sorry for my english)

[rough turret]

Small question on dedicated server: If i want to host a Linux VM with steamCMD, can i use my own steam user and play with that user as well? Or do i need to have a second copy of Satisfactory?

[fading quarry]

Dedicated server is standalone and have no connection with your account in any way, so yes you can play with your steam user.

[rough turret]

Great, thanks 🙂

[noble crane]

it can find steamclient.so, read just below the error

also it spits out this in the beginning: sh: line 1: xdg-user-dir: command not found

and this: LogInit: Display: Project file not found: /home/john/Satisfactory/FactoryGame/FactoryGame.uproject

[fading quarry]

that message is expected.

from quick googling you need to use the apt equivalent on opensuse and install xdg-user-dirs

[frosty gale]

you're right, i had the problem that i can't connect to server with internet public address but i can connect with internal net ip, for me works with 192.168.1.x address. My dedicated server and home computer are in the same net with the same router

[noble crane]

Thanks! I'm going to try that out when I get home, hopefully easyer than running the server in wine 🙂

[noble crane]

Thn you need to create a port-forward on your router

[frosty gale]

my problem is i can't redirect same ports for two different ips (dedicated server & home computer). I have created port-forward only as i can in dedicated server ip, then in home computer i use 192.168.1.x internal net

[noble crane]

A port forward is required to broadcast to the internet but connecting to a server does not require any kind of permission. You should only forward the server and then type is your external ip and the port you forwarded to on your client.

[frosty gale]

yes ok, i have forward the server, but the external ip and port don't work for my home computer client because i can't redirect a second ip for the same ports in router, but works with the internal net address (192.168.1.x). i can't redirect same ports for two different computers in the same router

[fading quarry]

you do not need to forward incoming traffic on your firewall/router to play on a dedicated server on your gaming pc.

connecting to a dedicated server is outgoing traffic, and unless your in a strict network outgoing traffic is never really going to pose a problem.

What you do need to do is forward 15777/15000/7777 all UDP traffic to the internal IP on your network where the dedicated server is hosted.

[frosty gale]

i have like you say, then, i don't know why i can't connect with my home computer with the external ip and i can with the internal IP in my network

[fading quarry]

Have you setup the same rules on the dedicated server itself, look at UFW on linux Windows Firewall on Windows.

And do you have double NAT by any chance, e.g a router provided by your ISP and a second router e.g your own wifi access point or mesh wifi network, then you need to forward the same ports from your ISP router to your private router and then from private to your dedicated server.

Double NAT is quite common, and can be solved in many different ways, I personally have my private router placed in DMZ in my ISP provided router as the ISP provided router is garbage.

[frosty gale]

yes this would be a solution, about my dedicated server really i don't have test if out of my net can somebody connect

sorry, somebody don't have try connect my server. i have not good english, this is a problem for me

if somebody wants to try this is the perfect moment xD

[fading quarry]

you can DM me your IP I can try connect rn.

[frosty gale]

thx, 1 minute

[frosty gale]

discord says i can't send you a message

[fading quarry]

yeah you have DM's disabled.

[frosty gale]

thx again

[fading quarry]

so yea you don't have ports forwarded correctly

Of the two candidates its either A: Firewall on the dedicated server that is not configured. Or B you have two or more routers on your network each acting as your internet gateway, if this is the case you need to either place these in DMZ or forward the ports from one to another.

[fading quarry]

Glad it worked out for you, as a tip right now there is a issue when disassembling parts on dedicated server that causes it to crash so keep auto save interval low for the time being.

It is highly random so there's no pattern to best avoid the crashes, hence we have to live with it and try minimize the risk of losing too much progress.

[frosty gale]

thx you're right, my router had port forwarded to home computer not to dedicated server, now works, very thx 🙂

[noble crane]

tried that and it solved the error! ...but i still can't start the server

I think I'm giving up

these servers are too complicated

i have used linux for 15 years now

and i can't even get the srver to start

[fading quarry]

Unfortunately I don't know openSUSE as I have never used it, I have however ran it on FreeBSD, Debian and Ubuntu, Ubuntu tho has the least need for having to manually add dependencies.

[near rapids]

You can always try docker version if everything else fails

[flat skiff]

need a command for console to damge players

[grizzled carbon]

Why is my map not loading in my server?

[fading quarry]

We had a similar problem we just turned off fog of war through SCIM

[lilac pine]

Is the graphics quality of the game affected at all by a dedicated server? Or is that all local

[eager thunder]

For those running Dedicated Servers, is there any mods/bots out there to integrate bi-directional chat between in-game chat and a Discord server channel?

[fading quarry]

Mods are not available for dedicated server at all for the time being.

[exotic thicket]

what do i put in the address

[fading quarry]

In a extreme small capacity yes, in very congested areas one user can potentially consume all available bandwidth capacity using the default bandwidth configuration, it is possible to change this by modifying Game.ini, Engine.ini and Scalability.ini on server and Game.ini and Engine.ini on client, on server side be sure that Engine.ini is write protected and both Engine.ini and Game.ini on client is write protected. But this is very much a edge case that does not in itself affect graphics but rather loading times of buildings or parts moving around.

[exotic thicket]

how do i reset the password for my server

[fading quarry]

You can delete the file in the SavesGames folder called ServerSettings.<port number> (e.g ServerSettings.15777) and when you restart the server you just claim and set it up from scratch, and just load previous savegame.

[grizzled carbon]

What is SCIM?

[fading quarry]

satisfactory-calculator

[exotic thicket]

i cant find the file

[sage oriole]

Why are my train stations popping up at coordinates 0,0 on the map no matter where we place it? Multiplayer, dedicated server. We have a dummy station to offset this issue and it was working previously, now it places every station in middle of map.

[rose coyote]

Someone needs to pin this

[sharp sphinx]

hello when i start my server i have a LogOnline: Warning: OSS: EOSSDK-LogEOSP2P: NAT Detection failed, unable to resolve host but i have the -multihome=0.0.0.0 in the start parameter and i don't have a firewall on my server, i can access to the server with 192.168.1.34 but not with the public ip

someone can help me ?

||sorry for my bad english i'm french ||

[rose coyote]

did you correctly forward the ports with a windows firewall rule, AND in your router?

[sharp sphinx]

i have a debian server not windows

and i am on a pterodactyl panel

i have a nat rule on my router with the satisfactory port

and i don't have a firewall on my router it's only a firewall for ipv6

[rose coyote]

My understanding is you still need to port forward your router

all three ports on your panel?

[sharp sphinx]

yes

[rose coyote]

I had a friend who had this problem, he modified his client for mods, are you using a clean install of your client? Are you the only one who can't connect to your server?

And you've reserved the IP address for your server, correct?

So that it is a static IP not dynamic

[sharp sphinx]

i have a clean client and the good static ip

[rose coyote]

I'm out of ideas, but I don't have experience with your server setup specifically. IMHO I would have someone else try to connect to your server and give you logs that you can present. There are people in here who are good with it.

You're ISP could possibly be preventing external connections

[quartz bramble]

nat detection failed is pretty normal and doesnt cause issues, the issue is having -multihome=0.0.0.0

if you are going to do -multihome=[ip] you need to set it to your local address i think

and if the IP is static

multihome may not even be needed

@sharp sphinx

[sharp sphinx]

I removed the parameter but I still have the same error

[umbral axle]

does somebody have a server that i can join?

[strange remnant]

How do I get my friends game save on my pc so I can setup a server for it?

[hushed gate]

Hello there totally awesome user! You can checkout #looking-for-group-old and check the pins on how to find folks to play with. <3

[desert walrus]

Save game location is in #faq

Take it from that spot on your friends computer and put it there in yours

[strange remnant]

How do I take it from that spot and put it on mine?

[desert walrus]

Same way that you would any other file

Email, cloud drive, physical media

[strange remnant]

Okay thanks

[lilac pine]

So one of the players who uses my server crashed, when they reentered the game they had no belongings, they said they walked up to there Pioneer which had the same name as them but with a disconnected status next to the name. ... How does this player get there belongings back?

[desert walrus]

the offline player

[night pendant]

murder.

[fading quarry]

It's a known bug, a few times we had to roll back our save as that offline player tend to float in some distance forever and usually get stuck inside a rock where you can't kill it, we did not try bombing it maybe that woulda work.

[sour elbow]

Is it as difficult as it looks to set up a server? I just launched from epic and it looked like i was in a movie, trying to hack into the mainframe😁 😎

[wide sky]

On the dedicated server I play on, my train stations bug to the center of the map. I learned after some amount of time (Not sure if game-time or IRL, probably game-time...) the train stations fix their positions and automation works again

Is there a way to speed this up or entirely fix this bug?

[wooden pond]

excuse me, could someone please explain how to get my server save file? im not a software guy so idk how to get the save file. i have the FTP but not sure how to use that to get the file...

[wide sky]

On the dedicated server I play on, my train stations bug to the center of the map. I learned after some amount of time (Not sure if game-time or IRL, probably game-time...) the train stations fix their positions and automation works again
Is there a way to speed this up or entirely fix this bug?
Before someone brings up the 750m thing, my first stations are greater than 750m apart and run fine alone

[stone swan]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers#Loading_a_save_file

[wide sky]

I cannot help you setting up the credentials, but once you are connected, navigating to the correct folder should feel very similar to how you navigate any Windows folder structure

[abstract bay]

So I setup a dedicated server and have been playing on it for about 4 hours. I went to chainsaw something and caused the game to crash. When I logged back in, It was as if I was on a new character and where I crashed is my old body and shows Offline Player above his head

I kinda want my stuff back off my body but can't figure out how to do that

[sonic ibex]

Hi all, we have a dedicated server setup but cant add the server under the server manager, please advise ive tried adding it with the IP and PORT but keeps telling me the server is offline

[hazy socket]

Kill it

[errant bronze]

I saw this is a previous post and I cannot find it. I got a new machine and setup a dedicated. Can someone assist with string(s) to auto reboot the server it if goes down?

[fading quarry]

You running your dedicated on Windows or Linux?

[errant bronze]

Windows, running off a batch file.

[fading quarry]

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Running_as_a_Service#NSSM

Are you running it on a separate machine or your gaming rig?

[errant bronze]

Same machine. Steamcmd runs the server. No issues.

I had a fairly large save on the old machine that I was playing with. It crashed often and I had to restart it almost daily. I wanted to get this one setup where there is a goto command in the .bat to restart the server if it crashes.

I think I got it. testing right now

Manual termination of the app causes a bat file termination. I'll have to play with it some more and see if it works if the server crashes.

Going to load up the old save and let it go over night.

[fading quarry]

Just be aware that there is no performance gain over running dedicated on same machine vs. Multiplayer, and effectively you will have to dedicate 10-16GB of memory for the server 24/7, you'll also experience same micro stuttering as with MP pretty much.

Not 100% sure about the micro stuttering that might no longer be an issue since they have made done a whole lot of performance tuning since I attempted to run dedicated on my gaming rig, but memory was really the issue game + server I would constantly crash as I only have 32GB Ram.

[errant bronze]

The server is using around 10Gbs of RAM right now. And I am at 32 as well. No performance issues with the game other than it closing once in a while for a reason that I do not know. Was just trying to keep it live for others that may be on it.

[fading quarry]

Sounds like your having same problem I had, not enough RAM, I literally could not use my machine when I experimented with running the server on my machine otherwise it would crash randomly, I even tried running it on a virtual machine and WSL.

[abstract bay]

I hit my doppelganger like 10 times with the basic zapper and I couldn't kill it. Can you even kill offline players?

[fading quarry]

iirc you cant kill yourself, and at times even friends wont be able to kill your doppelganger.

[abstract bay]

I did get my stuff back though. I loaded a save from 10 minutes earlier and for some reason my stuff was in a crate where I originally crashed. Hopefully it doesn't happen again but it was from an UE4 engine crash

[fading quarry]

Yea, fortunately it does not happen all too often, opposed to the dismantle crash that is like playing Russian roulette.

[abstract bay]

It happened right when my chainsaw was about to breakdown a bunch of flora

I have everything set to Ultra in graphics so maybe I should drop it a notch

[signal valley]

Anyone able to point me in the right direction for hosting servers through a platform, such as Apex? Currently having a hard time getting it to connect. Brand new to the game, and slightly new to server hosting in general. It just says the server is "idle" and "NotAuthenticated"

Lol, nevermind. Apparently it was just being lazy.

I tried everything I could google, nothing worked, haha. I'll pop back in if things don't work out

[fading quarry]

Bookmark this page https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers 🙂

[signal valley]

Thanks!

[steep grail]

can anyone help im looking at refunding my dedicated server but i wanna keep ym save file for my freind is it possible too import it?

[fading quarry]

Refunding? Its completely free.

[steep grail]

im not on about refunding i wanna know if its posibble too keep my save file?

[fading quarry]

But saves are located

Linux: ~/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames

[steep grail]

thank you

[fading quarry]

Windows: %LOCALAPPDATA%\FactoryGame\Saved\SaveGames

[steep grail]

thanks

[lilac pine]

is it possible to force the FICSMAS event? Would this be a local thing or would it have to be implemented on the server side?

[fresh parcel]

I believe that is a holliday event around Christmas time if I'm not mistaken

[abstract bay]

I am getting this about every 30 minutes on my dedicated server. Anyone experienced these kind of crashes?

[ruby dome]

I am actually really curious about that

hope someone responses soon

[fading quarry]

@abstract bay this appear to be the bug that has to do with enemies, be sure that all players turn on passive mode as there might be a relationship when mobs aggro players.

https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/638242ceca608e0803526fda // https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6382bc18ca608e08035270c3

Some also say that they get that same crash when doing deforestation both manually and with chainsaw.

[fickle epoch]

I get that but when enemies look at me yep. Making them passive fixes it. I’m wondering if it has to do with some of the changes to enemy “threat”

[abstract bay]

Interesting. It does appear to happen when I am exploring and come across enemies

[summer cobalt]

Help? I seen this was a prob for@sonic ibex anybody got anything?

[gaunt lantern]

are you on a pirated version of the game?

[summer cobalt]

not that I know of....unless steam really is that bad.

[gaunt lantern]

strange....try to rejoin the game

[summer cobalt]

I'm also got a gportal server. gonna try again

same thing

I followed the steps on the WIKI exactly. getting nada

yeah I'm not getting anywhere

[desert walrus]

If the gportal server doesn't work for you it's likely a client-side issue

[summer cobalt]

OK. well I'm dumb as a brick so this should be interesting. Thanks.

[viscid jewel]

is there anything i can do to my dedicated server to get the map to show everything quicker. it takes 15 minutes or more for evrything (train stations, drone ports) to show up on the map.

[lament venture]

hello there, anyone know if there is an option to turn off auto restart every 24h? it does crash server after the restart attempt, linux dedicated

[desert walrus]

The server shouldn't crash, it should just restart

[signal valley]

Is there a way to type into the console to connect to an IP and bypass the server manager?

[desert walrus]

No, the game really doesn't have many console commands exposed, especially for stuff like that

[signal valley]

Understandable, thanks!

[fading quarry]

Modify your save and turn off fog of war completely, also we have found that turning off most markers on map and compass does make markers more responsive. So if you have a lot of trains, stations and towers up turning those off helps greatly.
We also increased the bandwidth that the server has available and how much bandwidth each client can use, this made at least all buildings and items moving around A LOT more responsive, we never did check if it made markers more responsive, but my assumption is that it did, it is also very much likely that markers are some of the communications between server and client with lowest priority and thus once a save becomes large those messages are dropped due to limited server-client bandwidth default configuration uses.

[desert walrus]

You might be able to set up a scraper to do it automatically using AHK @signal valley

[polar axle]

i think i had those i play on epic games i just switched from -DX12 to -DX11

[fading quarry]

It's the crash that is caused by creatures when they target a player, turning on passive mode and you wont get that crash any more.

[stable night]

Is running a dedicated server using steamcmd and running the game while that server is running on the same machine using double the resources

?

[fading quarry]

Yes, and from my experience having tested that in multiple different ways such as directly steamcmd, through virtual machine and linux subsystem for windows the performance is lower than running multiplayer. Main issue is going to be memory your going to need 64GB RAM without having to deal with random crashes.

[signal valley]

https://tenor.com/bg7jA.gif

(I'm not that advanced)

[viscid jewel]

so i run a dedicated server on linx and don't see a config.ini where the wiki says it should be. any ideas on where it is or do i need to create one?

[fading quarry]

.config folder is just hidden so just cd into it.

[viscid jewel]

i see the ./config but there is no ini file to change settings

.config i mean

[fading quarry]

but configs are placed in a different place tho

SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/

[viscid jewel]

the wiki suggests some changes to the engine.ini game.ini and scalability.ini both on the server and the client but my path for the game is /home/steam/.config/Epic/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/server/

[fading quarry]

/home/steam/<Satisfactory Dedicated Server Folder>/FactoryGame/Saved/Config/LinuxServer/

[viscid jewel]

i have no config folder in Saved

[viscid jewel]

so i did not start my game on this linux server. i started on windows then copied it over to linux when i stood up the linuz server. maybe i missed copying the config folder and need to do that

[fading quarry]

you did not install it with steamcmd? e.g steamcmd +force_install_dir "/home/steam/Satisfactory" +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit

[viscid jewel]

i did but i immedietly copied the .sav file from windows server

[fading quarry]

perhaps you just need to run ./FactoryServer.sh once for the files to be generated.

I assume your going to modify the network configuration? Remember to use chattr +i Engine.ini after you have modified it since the server will always reset that file to default network configuration of 64Kbps.

[viscid jewel]

i will try that after i make a snapshot

so the game is not running from that directory path. Somehow i have another directory path it is running from but the one you posted does exist and has the config folder. time to trouble shoot and figure out how to get it tor un from the right place

[fading quarry]

remember to make symlink for steamclient.so?

[viscid jewel]

so according to sysemctl status it is running from the right directory but my saves are somewhere else as they are not in that paths saved directory. not sure what is going on

[fading quarry]

but it runs fine when you run it manually?

[viscid jewel]

yes it has been running fine just lag. saves are working so maybe i leave it and just adjust the config files

ExecStartPre=/home/steam/./steamcmd.sh +force_install_dir /home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit (co
de=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

[fading quarry]

that steamcmd.sh seems a little off

[viscid jewel]

got it from the web to run the game as a service

[fading quarry]

ln -s /usr/games/steamcmd ~/steamcmd

ExecStartPre=steamcmd +force_install_dir /home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 -beta experimental validate +quit

[stable night]

You mean just going into multiplayer on the client running Multiplayer?

[viscid jewel]

no i go into the server comp and run
systemctl start satisfcatory.service
that runs the server up

[fading quarry]

Yeah by just running normal multiplayer, running dedicated server on same machine as you are gaming on is just an awful experience all together.

[stable night]

So what is the best option?

Performance-wise

[fading quarry]

Dedicated on a separate machine obviously, but if your only option is that you have one machine normal multiplayer.

[stable night]

Ok thank you Kites

[fading quarry]

Mind you that dedicated server is not without its quirks, it requires a blazingly fast CPU and fast memory if you are going to make a large save with many people on it.

But that is also the same for multiplayer.

[stable night]

Max is three people

Most of the time its just me and one other person

[fading quarry]

Then a machine that would be top of the line 10 years ago sufficient.

[viscid jewel]

i run mine on a vm with 4vCPU and 16GB ram

[stable night]

Im actually having this issue that when I run Sat and a Disco call my calls are delaye

So for now, I am using GeoForce Now

[fading quarry]

using that prestart command for the service is going to haunt you btw at least in the state of dedicated server right now, its not unusual for the server to crash anywhere from every once and hour to multiple times per hour, and when the server then uses 5 minutes to restart every time it gets old very quickly, right now just because of the dismantle bug that is extremely annoying and crashes the server I am only one left playing till it gets fixed on our server and we were 6 people who were playing together for a few weeks.

right now I have simply just commented out that line in my service config.

[Unit]
Description=Satisfactory Dedicated Server
Wants=network-online.target
After=syslog.target network.target nss-lookup.target network-online.target

[Service]
Environment="LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./linux64"
#ExecStartPre=/usr/games/steamcmd +force_install_dir "/home/steam/Satisfactory" +login anonymous +app_update 1690800 validate +quit
ExecStart=/home/steam/Satisfactory/FactoryServer.sh
User=steam
Group=steam
StandardOutput=journal
Restart=on-failure
WorkingDirectory=/home/steam

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target

[viscid jewel]

up to now i have not had crashing issues maybe i have gotten lucky. the only real issue i have is map markers taking forever to populate and LAG

[fading quarry]

The dismantle bug became a huge issue once we had 3 mega factories and 5-6 smaller satellite factories on our map, i am not joking when i say its 50% chance that server will crash every single time I dismantle anything on the server.

[viscid jewel]

understood, i only have 2 players including myself and no so called Mega Factories. trying to stick with smallish satelite factories

largest factory is central storage but is only storage no production

i will definitely remember this tho if it does come to be an issue. I have noticed lag once in a while when i attempt to dismantle

[fading quarry]

That dismantle lag is greatly reduced with tuned bandwidth config, just be sure to modify the configs on the client side as well otherwise it has no effect.

You will see in the console once player joins the game what network speed client-server have negotiated to verify that config works correct.

[vagrant forge]

any way to change the creature mode to passive on a dedicated server?

[fading quarry]

not on the server itself every client has to do it themselves.

[lime spoke]

how can i setup a dedicated satisfactory server with an existing world?

[fading quarry]

copy save and load it on a Dedicated Server, check out wiki how to get started: https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[grim nest]

i downloaded this from epic but every time i start it i get this

what do i need to do to actully start a dedicated server

[undone pasture]

@grim nest pretty sure the server is running at that point.

[ancient swift]

[2023.02.26-08.57.48:851][375]LogFactory: Warning: Put down failed because we where never equipped. <-- lol

[viscid jewel]

i am curious if there is something wrong with my install
CentOS7
16 vCPU's
32 GB Ram
watching the top command then pressing 1 to show all CPU's it appears the server only utilizes one CPU at a time, it changes but never spreads across multiples. Did i configure something wrong or am i missing a setting?

[fading quarry]

main that one thread will hog anywhere from 70% to 100% cpu 24/7

[viscid jewel]

so i have to ask, is the train ruberband effect and the slow map population issues that everyone has with dedicated servers or is there a way to fix it? i did everything on the wiki and still same issues.

[fading quarry]

from what i understood on the matter that thread is the thread that handles client-server synchronization that cant be multi threaded easily, it used to be A LOT worse, to the point where a medium sized save would bog down to 5 ticks per second and not be able to recover getting stuck at 5 tps till server was restarted. on my same server I can now run 90tps on a much larger save.

[viscid jewel]

is there a way in game to show the fps?

[fading quarry]

yea but you have to turn on console for that

but server tick rate is what you want to keep an eye out for

[viscid jewel]

my server tick rate has always been 30, never higher never lower

[fading quarry]

Just wait till save gets larger, it'll plummet. I increased tick rate on our server to 90, it'll then stabilize around 30 when 3 players are online, and even at times go as low as 10 to 15, but this very much depends on how densely factories are built. Mega factories kills tick rate in no time.

[viscid jewel]

how do i raise the tick rate?

[fading quarry]

I have found that once tick rate starts to average below 5 ticks per second is when game become unplayable, buildings taking seconds to load, belts that stop working.

[viscid jewel]

you stated above that you increased your tick rate to 90, how do you do this?

[fading quarry]

Engine.ini

ConfiguredInternetSpeed=26214400
ConfiguredLanSpeed=26214400

[/Script/OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=26214400
MaxInternetClientRate=26214400
NetServerMaxTickRate=90
LanServerMaxTickRate=90

[/Script/SocketSubsystemEpic.EpicNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=26214400
MaxInternetClientRate=26214400
NetServerMaxTickRate=90
LanServerMaxTickRate=90

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGSaveSession]
mNumRotatingAutosaves=5

[/Script/Engine.Engine]
NetClientTicksPerSecond=20

As seen each client can only consume 20 ticks per second

that way one client alone cannot consume all ticks.

[viscid jewel]

does this have to be changed on the client ini's also or just the server?

[fading quarry]

only on server side

[viscid jewel]

k ty, i will definitely try this now

[fading quarry]

around 90 ticks per second is what my server can handle when no one is connected, going any higher on mine makes no difference, and could potentially cause worse performance

[grim nest]

does anyone use the epic dedicated server?

[fading quarry]

steam/epic/linux are basically all the same.

[grim nest]

i have never run one before and im not even sure how to start it do i follow the wiki even for the epic addon

[fading quarry]

I saw the picture you posted, are you not able to connect to your server?

[grim nest]

when i try to start the kfactoryserver.exe it show that

[fading quarry]

yes? That is how the server console looks like.

[grim nest]

i want it on diff ports i have set in my router is that done in game

[grim nest]

ok

[fading quarry]

If you want to use different ports there are a few command-line arguments you can use.

• -ServerQueryPort=<portnum>
• -BeaconPort=<portnum>
• -Port=<portnum>

[grim nest]

now i get his when starting game in steam do i need to reinstall yout hink

[grim nest]

where can i set that? is this not have a ui or is it all done in game?

[fading quarry]

Do you by any chance have mods installed?

[grim nest]

i run ark and atlas so im used to a ui to configure sorry

oh i can look under my steam folder i may have to remove old mods

good catch ty

[fading quarry]

just turn them off in Satisfactory Mod Manager

[grim nest]

see i dono where to find this stuff

i play in steam and want a ded server i prob sound like stupid lol

just used to using asm and asuu for ark and atlas so im gettin myself confused i think

[fading quarry]

Ok, two questions then, have you ever used mods when playing satisfactory? If the answer is yes, these have to be turned off when playing on dedicated server, as dedicated server does not support mods. Second question is are you trying to run dedicated server on same machine as your gaming? If yes, do you have A LOT of RAM? I would recommend nothing less than 64GB if you are attempting that as a save can grow to the point where the server needs 15-20GB of memory.

[grim nest]

yes i have had mods before i just need to know where to turn them off and 2 i have a seperate machine r820

plenty of ram

[fading quarry]

good good, then that error appears to be that your trying to connect to a server and you have mods turned on. Go to https://ficsit.app/ install Satisfactory Mod Manager, and make sure that you then turn off any mods that might be on. I don't remember the name of the old mod manager but it used to have a slightly different name. But that should replace the old one.

[grim nest]

yeah i think i have the old one

so you cannont mod dedicated server? is that right

[viscid jewel]

@fading quarry what is the tick rate dependant on, i see the wiki sounds like it is dependent on your hardware but i would think 16vCPU's and 32 GB Ram should keep my tick rate above 30 but after making the changes it still drops to low 20's sometimes and thats around no structures

[fading quarry]

CPU

number of cores makes no difference btw

[viscid jewel]

so if my 16 vCPU's are slow then it will drop the tick even though it should spread it across multiples but isn't?

[fading quarry]

all comes down to single core IPC

[viscid jewel]

so multiple cpu's is really a waste then?

[fading quarry]

2 cores is all satisfactory needs, that way the thread that uses 100% cpu 99% of the time has a dedicated core, other threads consume nearly nothing at all.

Having hyper threading on/off does not seem to make any difference btw.

[viscid jewel]

so am i out of luck running a smoth server with 2.7GHz cores

[fading quarry]

what CPU?

[viscid jewel]

E5-2680

duals

8 core each

16 logical proccessors

each

but i run this in a vm on hyper-v

[grim nest]

put in the port i set and i get this

Kites would you be willing to DM me when you have time and walk me thru this?

[fading quarry]

Smooth is subjective tho, I am running on dual Xeon X5680 and single core performance is nearly identical to yours, but I run it on bare metal with no hypervisor in between, it smooth enough that player experience is not a big issue. We used to have a really bad time last summer, but they have since done a lot of performance tuning.

[viscid jewel]

i can move it to my ESXI server with 4 E7-4860's
10 cores each
2.27GHz
but i don't know that it would change much

[fading quarry]

That has lower single core performance unfortunately.

[viscid jewel]

yes it does

i am looking to see if i can overclock either of these cpu's slightly

without destroying my server hardware

[fading quarry]

I wish my Dell PowerEdge R610 would allow me to overclock but no dice...

[viscid jewel]

my hyper-v is on R720 and my ESXI is on R810 not sure if i can overclock either one

[fading quarry]

From what I have read they are all fully locked down and cannot be OC'd at all.

[grim nest]

wher would i put he comman line options in for the epic version?

engine.ini?

[fading quarry]

You add it to the command-line arguments in the desktop shortcut to the server.

[fading quarry]

I was tempted to rent a Hetzner root server that runs Ryzen 5 3600 just for satisfactory dedicated server, but with taxes and everything 1 year's rent I could build that exact server myself for the same cost.

[viscid jewel]

yeah, i am not going to rent anything for 1 game, i run multiple other games on these two servers including all 12 maps of ARK

[fading quarry]

I just keep my fingers crossed that they continue to improve the performance of dedicated server, as said last summer it was dreadful and unplayable on my server, while now its stable enough that 3 players can play on a large save with 3 mega factories and a handful of smaller factories.

[viscid jewel]

i agree.
according to the R720 if it is a 12th gen it should have a turbo boost in the bios. gonna have to investigate further

[fading quarry]

Also check out this portion https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Running_as_a_Service#Windows by using NSSM you can use a gui instead of having to deal with a desktop shortcut or batch file with command-line arguments.

[grim nest]

thats what i want

i was tryuing to use the epic addon

[grim nest]

so im guessing the epic dedicated server addon and the steam tools dedicated server part are both batch files?

[viscid jewel]

@fading quarry fired up an old tower server with AMD FX8320
8 core
3.5 GHz
gave the game 6 cores and 16 GB ram
no difference
Map still takes a bit to populate and trains still rubberband here and there
But i did watch it spread the CPU load across all 6 Cores from time to time

[fleet lance]

@lime elm dm

[fading quarry]

Yea I would expect you to get same result as that CPU have same single core performance as your E5, actually a bit lower.

Are you guys not having any issues with the dismantle crash though? I am suspicious that we have FK'ed our save somehow, I would imagine hearing others having same trouble.

[silk frigate]

elaborate, i crashed my server an hour ago while dismantling something

[fading quarry]

At this point its literally 50% chance that whenever dismantling anything our server will crash, have just gotten worse and worse as the save have grown, its a known bug, but not many are reporting it.

[silk frigate]

yeah i've only had it happen once so far, so maybe i was just unlucky

[fading quarry]

if it is same crash you would see this [2023.02.19-14.20.06:492][476]LogCore: Error: appError called: Assertion failed: (Index >= 0) & (Index < ArrayNum) [File:Runtime/Core/Public\Containers/Array.h] [Line: 674]

[cinder phoenix]

does anyone know of a good satisfactory server gui im not a fan of the steam cmd style servers

i have found 1 but it doesnt seem to wanna work

[fading quarry]

What you are looking for is then a SteamCMD gui, something like pterodactyl or AMP

AMP is probably the easiest to set up, but is not free either.

[cinder phoenix]

i have an image of my current one i found on git hub 1 second

just easier to do everything from a panel vs a command line

my issue is this program idk if u seen this gui before doesnt wanna do anything except error out

it keeps asking for the saves folder but i dont know where it is and ive made a folder for it to write files to

[fading quarry]

potato potatoes, i find command line utilities easier, but i have also dealt with command line utilities for nearly 25 years.

[cinder phoenix]

i mean ive no problem with command line but games with lots of features are usally easier

tho satisfactory isnt exactly feature loaded to be fair

ive set up rust and ark survival servers

[fading quarry]

yea set and forget really ^^

[cinder phoenix]

if there isnt a good known and free gui i guess ill have to figure out the cmd

issue is i host from the same pc i play on

[silk frigate]

just had a look, and surely, same error

[2023.02.26-18.44.09:908][767]LogCore: Assertion failed: (Index >= 0) & (Index < ArrayNum) [File:Runtime/Core/Public\Containers/Array.h] [Line: 674] 
Array index out of bounds: 77 from an array of size 77

[fading quarry]

Large save?

[silk frigate]

only on the start of phase 2

[fickle epoch]

I'm starting to get a bunch of latency on a 3 player dedicated server as the map gets built out. I have a good hosting box (5600X, 64GB RAM) do you have any more tuning tips? I can't find much documentation on the UE4 engine for how to do some of what you are doing here.

[fading quarry]

yea I'm not going to begin discourage you, best of luck and I hope that its just our save that is FK'ed somehow.

[silk frigate]

😬

[fading quarry]

As seen in my config there I have a upload of 25Mbit on my cable internet (they wont build Fiber where I live :(() if you have higher upload try increase the bandwidth higher (800Mbit is max btw that the server can handle) if you have higher upload speeds, I have also done some trickery with trick rate in that config where server runs 90 ticks per second and each client can only consume 20 ticks per second.

But it should not really matter tho, I have not seen single clients use more than 3Mbit, but that is still 50x times faster communication between server and client than the default 64Kbit that is what Ultra uses by default.

[fickle epoch]

I have a gigabit up (fiber weeee!) so I can probably do a lot there. I'm having so many issues now that the game is almost unplayable. Can build belts that connect but dont transport, another player comes over and builds the same belt and it works just fine 🤷‍♂️

Also fwiw, the only thing running on the box is a dedicated server, fresh ubuntu install, no vm etc.

[fading quarry]

Tuning bandwidth should help a lot with the issue you describe, we had same problem before I modified bandwidth. Be sure that this has to be done on both server and clients for it to work though.

Also console will spit out the negotiated bandwidth between server-client when a player joins the game (not when a player just views the server in server manager, when viewing server manager it will use the default 64Kbit connection speed).

[fickle epoch]

And the bandwidth mod you are mentioning is your tick rate changes there?

[fading quarry]

[2023.02.26-20.28.40:100][653]LogGame: Initialized MaxClientRate == 26214400``` when I connect to my server while default is 300000

Engine.ini ```[/Script/Engine.Player]
ConfiguredInternetSpeed=26214400
ConfiguredLanSpeed=26214400

[/Script/OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=26214400
MaxInternetClientRate=26214400
NetServerMaxTickRate=90
LanServerMaxTickRate=90

[/Script/SocketSubsystemEpic.EpicNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=26214400
MaxInternetClientRate=26214400
NetServerMaxTickRate=90
LanServerMaxTickRate=90

[/Script/FactoryGame.FGSaveSession]
mNumRotatingAutosaves=5

[/Script/Engine.Engine]
NetClientTicksPerSecond=20

Scalability.ini ```[NetworkQuality@3]
TotalNetBandwidth=26214400
MaxDynamicBandwidth=26214400
MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760

Game.ini```[/Script/Engine.GameNetworkManager]
TotalNetBandwidth=26214400
MaxDynamicBandwidth=26214400
MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760

[/Script/Engine.GameSession]
MaxPlayers=12
InitialConnectTimeout=180.0
ConnectionTimeout=120.0```

that is on the server side

[fickle epoch]

Thank you! Do you have any reference to some of the settings?

[fading quarry]

wiki and unreal engine documentation

[fickle epoch]

Thanks again! I'll try it out tonight and see if it helps.

[fading quarry]

on the client side i have sent this to the players on our server:

Replace/add the following in files in this location and have them write protected %localappdata%\FactoryGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor\

Game.ini[/Script/Engine.GameNetworkManager] TotalNetBandwidth=26214400 MaxDynamicBandwidth=26214400 MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760

Engine.ini```[/Script/Engine.Player]
ConfiguredInternetSpeed=104857600
ConfiguredLanSpeed=104857600

[/Script/OnlineSubsystemUtils.IpNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=104857600
MaxInternetClientRate=104857600

[/Script/SocketSubsystemEpic.EpicNetDriver]
MaxClientRate=104857600
MaxInternetClientRate=104857600```

Scalability.ini[NetworkQuality@3] TotalNetBandwidth=104857600 MaxDynamicBandwidth=104857600 MinDynamicBandwidth=10485760

[fading quarry]

be sure to use chattr +i on Engine.ini on server as server will overwrite that file on exit to default values if not on every restart.

[fading quarry]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/API/Runtime/Engine/Engine/UNetDriver/ServerReplicateActors/ and https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Multiplayer#Temporary_lag_solution

[cinder phoenix]

so im getting an error that says steam api failed to initiate and its 100% im playing on the same pc as the server can i ignore that or should i fix that

also apparently im just 10 levels below dumb i didnt know i had to go into the game to set the server up most servers require setting up outside the game

[fading quarry]

its only a warning and can be ignored

[cinder phoenix]

cool thanks

[fading quarry]

hosting on same machine as you game on will have lower performance than running multiplayer, not to mention server will hog one CPU core at close to 100% and also consume 10-20GB of RAM 24/7 but you have probably seen me write that a little earlier.

[proud orbit]

I managed to get my server up and running, but only computers on my local network can access it - the host computer and I tested it from a laptop (entered the IP to connect). I can only find an IPV4 address for myself right now, does the server require IPV6 to connect?

[fading quarry]

ipv6 is not required, be sure to forward 15777, 15000 and 7777 all UDP assuming you use default ports to the server in your router/firewall, also do you have multiple routers, e.g your own router for such as mesh wifi behind your ISP provided router then keyword is Double NAT (if you need to search how to set that up, as there are multiple ways you can deal with that).

[grim nest]

Kites, if i DM you later do you think you might be able to help me thru the setup?

[fading quarry]

sure go a head

[grim nest]

ok ty...gotta cpl errands to do then ill see if your avalible and tyvm

[proud orbit]

I double checked my ports and they match what you put; my ISP actually doesn't provide a router or a modem - the entire building is wired for a single ISP and I just plug my own router into an ethernet port in the wall. Hooray apartments.

My router has both Port Forwarding and Port Triggering - I have everything set up under forwarding, but do i need to copy it all to triggering as well?

[fading quarry]

It is likely that you do not have a dedicated IP in your apartment, I know in some instance what you can do is contact the ISP that provide internet in your building and you can possibly rent a dedicated IP address, here its quite normal that renting a dedicated ipv4 is 10$ per month, as it is very likely that all apartments share one IPV4 address when facing the internet.

There is however another option, where you rent a cheap host from a cloud hosting service, and I mean cheap a 2-3$ virtual machine that you configure as a VPN server, now you can have a public interface through that VPN where your friends connect to its public ipv4 address to your server.

[proud orbit]

haha funny you mention it, I actually contacted my ISP a while back to set up my own separate account specifically to get a static ipv4 (and much much faster speeds) but not an ipv6. I'll give them a call again and see if maybe there is something else that i need them to do or if they can configure my account differently - i looked up the double NAT and that might be it. If not then it sounds like a cloud host is gonna be my best option. Thanks for the help!

[fading quarry]

I know google has a few servers that you can rent practically 100% free, a VPN server does not use a lot of resources and I believe that it should be able to run just fine on a free tier host, you might need to rent a ipv4 address as a addon service tho.

[proud orbit]

oh wait, are you saying using a VPN could solve it? I have NordVPN but I didn't think that was the same as the cloud hosting for servers?

[fading quarry]

There do exist VPN providers that do support port forwarding, but I would not know who.

just as an example I found this provider that do give you a dedicated IP through vpn that lets you forward ports "purevpn" (keyword: port forwarding vpn)

[cinder phoenix]

so is there a reason my server doesnt have a night time? is that a server default or can i even change that?

[tepid cosmos]

Anybody know if satisfactory servers work with SRV records or do you have to use A records and specify the port?

(Mention in reply please)

[reef gull]

As long as it resolves to the IP on the ports needed, it should work... I don't have a lot of experience with SRV records though.

[glad nest]

IsAwake isAwake = ture
IsAwake isAwake = flase
are all the boolean tags mispelled intentionally?

[desert walrus]

Where did you find that?

[glad nest]

in the server logs

[desert walrus]

Nah, prob just a typo lol

[glad nest]

I started to think i were crazy

misread it all day

[forest kiln]

Is there a way to change the auto save time on dedicated servers?

[fading quarry]

Yes, you can use the following in the Server Manager consoleFG.AutosaveInterval 600 600 in this example would mean auto save every 600 seconds.

I would not suggest going over 10 minutes tho, I had 4 players basically quit as they got tired of losing progress when server crashes. And 10 minutes is still a lot of building progress when your deep in building mode.

[forest kiln]

Copy that, thanks!

[azure heart]

Hey chat, what's a good website to rent dedicated servers from?

[desert walrus]

Firstly, I'd always recommend hosting it yourself it at all possible

[azure heart]

I used to do it on my own PC ya

[desert walrus]

In about 2 years of paying 15/month you can completely fund the cost of a dedicated machine to run it

[night pendant]

BaineGames — 10/30/2021 10:50 AM
FYI - Advertising any type of service for dedicated servers is prohibited and goes against this server rules.

[desert walrus]

Bro, it's not advertising if they simply ask for reccomendations

[glad nest]

Just buy a washed up used server for like 100-200$ should be plenty...
The cheapest renting i found was 12$ a month and that server had half the ram and cpu power of what i bought

[frosty gale]

12/month thats expensive

Companies are just putting high prices

I got for 60 euro for 2 years super good specs

[glad nest]

Yes, i sortor get it though. I have seen 2 of my 8 cores get a run for their money already, also its already consuming 10gig ram no probs

[fading quarry]

12$ a month unfortunately gives you a server performance that is downright useless, after numerous attempts at cloud hosting only services I have found that are capable of hosting a dedicated server start at 40$ per month. And even that is much lower specs than what I would be happy with.

I personally believe there are only one reason to play on a dedicated server and that is to build bigger and with multiple people at same time, and your average cloud service just wont be able to host a game and experience that is acceptable at lower costs. But maybe I am just expecting to have a experience does not lag and constantly desync.

[glad nest]

Yep the 12$ one gave less than the "recommended" specifications

And as i said. I have only played a few days and 2 out of 8 cores have been been fully loaded at times with only 4 players

So cheapskating is probably not a good solution

[fading quarry]

Unfortunately satisfactory does not utilize multiple cores, well it does but you will soon find that there is one thread that will consume 100% CPU 24/7 and theres nothing you can do about it.

Which is why it is very important to look at single thread performance when shopping for a host.

[glad nest]

Yeah i have noticed its not very efficient in those regards

However it is using more, but as you said the main strain will always be on a single one

[fading quarry]

Yes it does utilize many threads but the main one that is the cause of all of our problems is highly dependent on single thread performance, and in hosting environments that usually over-provision and utilize live migrations the performance is garbage.

[glad nest]

have you experienced any major crashes as a result of this?

[fading quarry]

my 13 year old Xeon X5680 had much better performance than the last cloud hosting we attempted to use that used much newer hardware.

[glad nest]

the server has been running fully stable since i booted it - however clientside has had some crashes, only when exploring and seemingly when mobs are aggroing

[fading quarry]

client crashes are likely due to not turning creature mode to passive, i would say 90% of all current client crashes are because of that.

[glad nest]

oh really? I read someone mentioning that wont help

if you had any improvements with it i'll try it

I just tried setting network quality up to ultra, which did not do jack shit beside strain the server a bit more

[fading quarry]

We never crash on the client side, but we do have a lot of trouble now at end game where the server keeps crashing.

[glad nest]

Then i'll definitely try to turn creatures to passive

they are just an annoyance at this point anyway

[fading quarry]

Network quality will make loading and desync less of a issue but you are correct it does make it so that the server will use more CPU

[glad nest]

this the one you using endgame where it is crashing? Xeon X5680

[fading quarry]

and really the default Ultra is also waaay too low, at ultra syncing between client and server is .25Mbit you can actually tune it to the point where server have capability at 800Mbit, but you will generally see that clients dont consume more than 3Mbit.

[fading quarry]

Yea that's the one I run on currently, again to find any host that have a significant upgrade worth switching to the cost is around 40$ and upwards per month.

That being said the current crash we currently keep facing only require a minuscule fix that CSS need to implement as its just a simple oversight on their part, I keep holding my breath hoping we get a fix for it ASAP.

We keep crashing due to this bug:
[2023.02.19-14.20.06:498][476]LogCore: Assertion failed: (Index >= 0) & (Index < ArrayNum) [File:Runtime/Core/Public\Containers/Array.h] [Line: 674]
My theory is that because CPU runs at 100%, 100% of the time there are some locking in the code so that when a player dismantle anything quite so often this execute after a part have been removed from the array, and without verifying that the array has changed it just kills the server.

[glad nest]

gotcha, sounds like a feasible theory

[frosty gale]

(CPU) 11 GHz
(RAM) 4096 MB
SSD 50 GB

thats above average with that price lol

[glad nest]

4GB ram for a server?

and what CPU is 11GHz

[fading quarry]

that is just showing you the total CPU, nothing about the underlying CPU that is actually running on. you can however extract what CPU it runs on from the satisfactory logs.

4GB is way too little, a rather small save easily takes up 10GB of RAM, and it just goes upwards form there, our last save took over 30GB of RAM, current save we are at 14GB.

[frosty gale]

Right

[glad nest]

my server is already consuming 10gigs on tier 4 so i guess you would want 10gig as a bare minimum

[fading quarry]

VMware did report that I have 80Ghz CPU but each core only runs at 3.3Ghz, and 3.3Ghz in itself is not a benchmark since the CPU is 13 years old, a new enterprise CPU at 2.5Ghz can potentially beat my CPU by a mile.

[runic vapor]

Hello together, we have an dedicated server set up on linux and ran into a problem, where we get the UNetConnection::Tick Connection TIMED OUT.

We have it running as a service, as shown here: https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Running_as_a_Service#Linux

We did a complete reinstall of the server, which didn't solve it. After some research we found this:

https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers/Configuration_files#Client_disconnected_for_Timeout

The problem there is, that we don't have the "Engine.ini" file, which is created after the first connect to the server, where we are at the start of the problem...

Right now, there is also the problem, that it crashes when its trying to start the server...
(some of the last messages it sends are in the TXT file.)

After this, the service file kiks in, and starts the server again, after that is crashes again, all in an never ending loop...

I know this is quite a lot, but does anyone have any idea why this is happening?

This is a screenshot of the connection error

[desert walrus]

According to that error you're not trying to connect to it properly

Can I see a screenshot of the server manager?

[fading quarry]

Could you also attach server logs as well?

[runic vapor]

Sure, do you know where they are stored?

[fading quarry]

By looking at your previous log they should be in this location
/home/steam/SatisfactoryDedicatedServer/FactoryGame/Saved/Logs/

[runic vapor]

It just cycles throu those two states

[fading quarry]

I am curious if perhaps you are trying to run the server with too little memory, logs should give us some indication however why it might just restart like that.

[runic vapor]

Well, i found this, is this any usefull?

[fading quarry]

Yeah not enough free memory on your system.

[desert walrus]

That would explain the server bootloop

[runic vapor]

ok, thanks. Will have to talk to the server owner then...

[fading quarry]

I would not recommend anything less than 10GB RAM for a Satisfactory Dedicated Server, and that is what I would call bare minimum.

[desert walrus]

12 is the minimum to load a save in u7

[runic vapor]

We have 16, but there are also some websites and EMail-Servers, I will talk him into upgrading to 32 GB.

[fading quarry]

Or rather I should be more clear when I say 10GB, 10GB for Satisfactory Dedicated Server process excluding everything else that might be running on a particular system, meaning your looking at 16GB or more in practicality.

[quick snow]

!wikisearch dedicated server

[rigid grotto]

Good afternoon people! Sorry for my lack of information in this case, but can't we use mods on the dedicated server yet?

And another question, what service have you commonly used to host your servers?