off-topic-tech

[night girder]

I can drive in Germany with my license 🤷‍♂️

and it's not a German license.

[grand berry]

Are you both from europe

[night girder]

I was driving in the Netherlands today and I was behind a german car ... it was driving the speed limit on the left. I was amazed.

[dire igloo]

The minimum is seen very, very rarely.
It's around areas with strong winds or unpredictable environments that'd mess with you too much if you're too slow.

But yeah, driving too slow for no apparent reason is also "not allowed" in the sense that you shouldn't be an obstruction to other drivers

[night girder]

Sorry Fireworker. But ... a german car ... driving at the speed limit. I was impressed 🤣

[dire igloo]

Btw, did you know that you aren't allowed to drive a car in Germany if you don't have a good reason to?

[pure karma]

bruh

[night girder]

I am here to spend money.

"All good sir, have a good day."

But I didn't know. Is that law actually being applied? Like practical.

[dire igloo]

If you get stopped and asked where you're going and you say "oh, I was just bored and wanted to go on a joyride", you'll get a ticket.
You'll have to have a destination - "I wanted to see X landscape feature" does count tho

[night girder]

I am on my way to Nurburgring.

Which wouldn't be a lie 🤷‍♂️

I am visiting friends. (Which would be a lie).

[grand berry]

F1 needs to bring german gp back

[dire igloo]

It's quite common for Germans to abide the rules when abroad - many other countries are far more strict in their enforcement (just look at the Swiss)

[night girder]

I mean, no way the cops can enforce that law rofl.

That's just plain stupid law.

[dire igloo]

That's a valid destination

[night girder]

Sadly, I don't see that a lot in the Netherlands.

But I don't think you will understand why 😄

[dire igloo]

It's nigh impossible - it's just there to stop people from clogging up the streets purely for fun

[night girder]

Yeah, it's just very hard to verify either for the cops. Or if it comes to that, in court.

[grand berry]

am i the only one from america😭

[night girder]

We (I?) scared away the others, but no 😄

[dire igloo]

And if you do want to go on a joyride: you can just mention whatever landscape you went to see and it counts

[grand berry]

You two are dutch and german correct?

[night girder]

Frigid, Kade are a few top of my head.

[dire igloo]

Belgian and German

[night girder]

No, I just visited the Netherrlands

[grand berry]

Ah

So in europe can you just go to other countries without like a border checkpoint

[night girder]

yup.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

[grand berry]

Huh

[dire igloo]

I'm pretty sure every other country does this too.
Default speed inside cities, default speed outside of cities, default speed on highways.

Then lower that number regionally as the conditions require

[night girder]

While some countries still do occasional checks for weapons, drugs etc.

But not 24/7 checkpoints.

[grand berry]

Makes sense

[night girder]

Unless corona hits us again.

then all the borders clossed pretty harsh.

[grand berry]

How long does it take to drive to netherlands from belgium

[dire igloo]

Only within the countries that signed that agreement

[night girder]

where I live, 10 minutes.

[grand berry]

I JUST DROVE 3 HOURS TO THE NEXT CITY OVER WHAT

[dire igloo]

Europe is a mess once you learn that the European Union is not the same as the Eurozone or the European trading zone or the Schengen zone

And then there's Eurovision

[dire igloo]

Depends on where you are in each country, they're neighboring

It's like asking how long it takes to drive from the US to Canada

[night girder]

How do I say this in english?

Mhm.

If I drive from the most northern point of my country, to the most southern point of my country, the longest vertical line of my country, it's about 2,5 hours.

[dire igloo]

Or from US to Mexico

[grand berry]

I thought something was in between them but guess not

[night girder]

If you live right next to the border, about 1 minute 🤣

[dire igloo]

Exactly

[grand berry]

I thought people were exaggerating the difference between drives in america and europe but no its completely accurate

[night girder]

I know what my country is. And I don't mind saying it.
My country, is the size of your cities

[grand berry]

Have you been to spa

[pure karma]

it takes me an hour to get across town man

[grand berry]

For like f1

[dire igloo]

How long does it take to get from Germany to France?
idk, but somehow going on a detour through Belgium is a shortcut

[grand berry]

EXACTLY

[night girder]

Nah, not yet. Should do that.

[night girder]

Ah, here too 😄 Our cities and traffic suck.

[grand berry]

I want to so bad but its so expensive to get there

[pure karma]

and now the bridge colapsed (From negligence) and the highway is under construction so you cant get fuckall anywhere

[night girder]

It's not because we are a small country.

We don't have very nice and long traffic jams 😄

[grand berry]

Wait are you in dc

[night girder]

Bro. You went there. I am so afraid to make such jokes 🤣

[grand berry]

Francis scott key bridge correct?

[dire igloo]

The US is incredibly inaccessible tho which makes cities much much larger and drives much more necessary.

Also, y'all really got to learn about parking garages and multi-floor parking decks

[pure karma]

no just some random local bridge here responsible for conecting btoh parts of town together

[night girder]

ngl, a fucking good joke 🤣

[grand berry]

My grandmother lived in a place where if there was a bridge it was 1 mile but no 6 miles

[night girder]

and kinda impressed you know that.

[grand berry]

Ah

[dire igloo]

They're Canadian

[grand berry]

Man no one is from is here

[dire igloo]

I'm German, it's part of our curriculum

[grand berry]

Im alone 😭

[night girder]

I didn't know it was still part of the curriculum.

[dire igloo]

It's crazy how you can be surrounded by people and still feel lonely

[night girder]

Especially the details.

[safe trench]

mew

[pure karma]

i live in the sea

[night girder]

I know that feeling.

[dire igloo]

Yet you can be completely on your own without feeling lonely at all

[night girder]

Oh, you lucky.

[dire igloo]

Eh, details are whatever the students feel like digging into - I just happened to have a very politically obsessed sister and a very joke-hungry brain

[night girder]

I am a bit of a geek on that subject. A lot of documentaries.

[dire igloo]

It's very rare but actually very beautiful once it happens.
Most of the time, I'm just lonely and alone

[pure karma]

story of my job right there

[dire igloo]

Did you know how the city of Konstanz avoided WW2 bombardement?
While every other place in Germany was told to go dark at night, Konstanz stayed brightly lit - that way, the bombers didn't know where the Swiss city of Kreuzlingen ended and the German city of Konstanz began

[night girder]

That's an interesting fact, didn't know that!

And also smart.

[grand berry]

I wish i knew more about wwii i just know cold war

I feel stupid here

[night girder]

Curious, how did that happen? Didn't school teach that subject and only cold war?

Maybe it makes sense since it's a war on another continent.

[grand berry]

I just didnt care abt wwii and convinced my teachers cold war was pretty much cold war even tho it wasnt

They do very much teach wwii

Vietnam and wwii was like the biggest things

[pure karma]

here they dont directly only through story of canada and stuff since we participated in it yadi yada

[night girder]

yadi yada?

[night girder]

You both clearly don't give much about the subject, which is fine

[grand berry]

I thought it was some ritual or smth 😭

[safe trench]

you think anybody does?

[night girder]

I know.

Of atleast one person. That's not a smart question 😄

[grand berry]

Many people know like everything abt it

[charred relic]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-seinfeld-gif-17487164404306703067

[grand berry]

Such as the one who taught me everything i know about cold war so

[pure karma]

on another note im probably gona have a new desk soon ish™

[night girder]

ah, PC systems are more fun than wars anyway 😄

[charred relic]

mew

[pure karma]

i talked to a guy that can make me a custom desk by like middle of next month

[night girder]

With foot rest?

[safe trench]

mew most certainly

[pure karma]

no but maybe

[night girder]

You have to get the foot rest.

[charred relic]

Everytime I see a cat in the wild I'm like "come here and let me love you!"

[pure karma]

technically i have one already

[night girder]

a dog is not a foot rest

[safe trench]

trvth nuke

[safe trench]

a breadloaf cat counts?

[dire igloo]

American history is kinda hard to teach if you don't wanna look like the bad guy all the time, so I get it

[grand berry]

Found a kitten while hiking once and now shes 9

[grand berry]

The info is very wrong frequently

[dire igloo]

It's ironically one of the few failures of German history teaching: making the Nazis the bad guy at all times failing to actually teach the warning signs of a rising fascist movement

[grand berry]

They say if we didnt join germany would have won

[night girder]

I don't know much about German history teachings ofc. But the rise of fascists movements was seen all over the world.

[dire igloo]

Well, y'all were playing both sides for a long time, so you might've ended up joining the axis too

[night girder]

So I fully agree that it's such a important thing to understand, if you want to be able to prevent it.

[dire igloo]

(don't go looking into Henry Ford's political views)

[grand berry]

I genuinely dod not not that

Just knew that japan bombed us and we joined allies

[night girder]

US didn't want to join at all.

[jagged snow]

To varying degrees, but the states wanted to remain neutral if at all possible

War is expensive and the US didn't think that had anything to loose if either side lost the war for the most part

[charred relic]

Yes we were isolationists

which is hard to do when bombs start falling on a state...

[dire igloo]

Also: Japan targeted the ships primarily which were quickly replenished making the losses not so bad.
Had they attacked the harbor infrastructure, y'all would've been a pretty minor player in the pacific

[night girder]

Also.

Germany declared war on US. Hitler was a proud man.

[jagged snow]

The view at the time was basically if we didn't spend our resources in war we would come out farther ahead than everyone else

[night girder]

After Japan did Pearl Harbor.

[dire igloo]

Yup - it's more profitable to support both sides

[night girder]

Hitler knew US was going to declare war after Pearl Harbor. He didn't allow that.

[grand berry]

Huh

[jagged snow]

Why use your weapons in your army when you could sell them to both of the other ones

[night girder]

History is lit.

[dire igloo]

History is shit

[night girder]

But also written by the victors.

[jagged snow]

Yep

[dire igloo]

Also:
Don't be afraid of the Nazis in uniforms. Be afraid of the Nazis in suits.

[jagged snow]

And I would say that the states definitely aren't the worst about distorting history but they definitely aren't the best either 😄

[dire igloo]

War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.

[grand berry]

?

[night girder]

Also true.

And shares same sentiment.

[jagged snow]

Like the fact that when you learn about the space race or any other number of government projects in the 40s through the 70s a very significant portion of that work was done by non americans as a result of the war

There are certainly many arguments to be made that the Nazi scientists were doing better work in many ways than what was happening in the states

[night girder]

The radar system was invented by the Brits during WO2 to stop the constant air raids on London.

[jagged snow]

That was probably one of the biggest wins the US got out of the war

That and the fact that they were able to maneuver themselves into suddenly being the single biggest player in international policy, even more so than after WW1

[night girder]

That you stole them?

[jagged snow]

Yep

[night girder]

Oh, these baddies. No no. They are not baddies anymore. They are the goodies now
Flip-Flop.

[jagged snow]

That the states suddenly had this massive influx of quite brilliant scientific minds, new ideas, and plenty of progress that they could pull in

Von Braun did an incredible amount for the apollo program and he was a Nazi scientist that did a bunch of work on the V1

[night girder]

Wernher von Braun ... sigh

[jagged snow]

[night girder]

Literally captured / stolen.

[jagged snow]

Yep

[night girder]

That man was not a good person.

[dire igloo]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qxXBGpnd6Qo

[charred relic]

I have some of those vood vouchers from WW2 that my grandparents had

you had to have a coupon to buy certain types of items and were limited on how much

[jagged snow]

Not at all, but he was a great scientific mind and got the US a political win

IIRC von Braun was the head of NASA during the cold war

[night girder]

Wait, what? There was also food shortage in the US during WO2?

[pure karma]

fuelllll baaaybbeeee

[charred relic]

We shifted so hard into manufacturing and supporting the war effort

[pure karma]

same here lol

[charred relic]

Yes to buy things like meat you had to have a voucher for a set amount

[night girder]

Yo, not out fault.

[dire igloo]

Denazification was only done for those that they had no use for or that were too famous to be kept in office - someone like Werner von Braun was "deported" and "forced into labor" (got a high engineering position at NASA)

[night girder]

4 years, 4 bloody years!

🤣

[charred relic]

everything was needed for the war

[jagged snow]

The sector largest hit by the draft was agriculture and domestic manufacturing - food

[night girder]

But we were already fighting for 4 years.

So you could have shifted slowly. Not a rash economical change.

[jagged snow]

Yep

[pure karma]

yea wasent it like gas, certain foods, coffee and uhh oil?

[jagged snow]

Steel was the other big one

[charred relic]

yeah lots of stuff, can't remember what all was on the list

[night girder]

Now that makes sense. The draft. If you don't have people. Fuck yeah.

[charred relic]

i think i know where those are...

[jagged snow]

Steel was quite literally impossible to acquire even for shipbuilders, railroads, etc

Basically anything the gov didn't deem critical to the war effort didn't get workers and didn't get resources if they could be dedicated to the war

[night girder]

That makes more sense than a sudden change of economies.

[jagged snow]

Another thing that hit food supply: many factories that used to produce cans for food were retooled to do ammunition

[night girder]

The war was going on for so long, countries could have prepared and shifted.

But a draft, yeah, that cuts your work force.

[jagged snow]

yep

[dire igloo]

Primarily family-operated enterprises

Remove the heir, kill the business

[jagged snow]

And the states drafted heavily

[jagged snow]

Exactly
Back then big industrial farms weren't common

It would be primarily a married couple and a few of their children working the farm

When half of those children potentially get drafted, that farm really can't operate on more than a substinence level

[night girder]

Interesting.

[dire igloo]

Especially if the parents had more of a management role and left the field work to their children or the very few employees

[jagged snow]

Yep

[night girder]

Well we didn't have all those things happened. Since we got pretty much massacred.

We had one fort here.

That hold for a few days but got destroyed by bombardments.

[jagged snow]

But yeah, the US shifted just as heavily to manufacturing for war as european countries but they did it much faster

[dire igloo]

Denmark was smart - surrendered early but negotiated conditions

[night girder]

The french came to help us, but we couldn't hold. And it was GG.

[jagged snow]

And it had lasting cultural and economic impacts on the states

That are still very easily noticed today

[night girder]

What you on about? EU was pretty much conquered by that time.

There was no shifting. Half wasn't even properly prepared.

[jagged snow]

(axis countries, britian)

Not the whole of europe, just a few

[night girder]

So, yeah. Only the Brits and Russians.

[jagged snow]

Yep, sorry
Should have clarified

[dire igloo]

Gave Germany full military control over their land and were politically assimilated, but got to keep their national identity through culture and language.
Basically giving Germany a free use pass instead of becoming German

[dire igloo]

EU didn't exist at that time

[night girder]

Touche.

What was it called? It had a name.

[dire igloo]

idk

First EU ancestor organization was European Society for Coal and Steel - still a post-WW2 installment to force Germany and France into codependency so they wouldn't start another war against one another

[night girder]

But lets say eu more as a continent

[dire igloo]

Worked well I gotta say

[dire igloo]

Soooo... Europe?

[night girder]

Yes. I shall say Europe.

There was no country in Europe left to upscale production. Since it was a Blitzkrieg.

[dire igloo]

One of the few mistakes in German blitzkrieg strategy: underestimating the power of giving meth to your soldiers

[night girder]

I got the name, the leauge of nations!

[dire igloo]

Generals literally invalidated troop positions cuz they thought it's impossible to march that far in that short of a time - when in reality, meth just took over

[night girder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations

[dire igloo]

Pervitin, Panzerschokolade
Fun shit

[night girder]

That was crazy.

[dire igloo]

Also: run-on serial numbers

Shoot shiniest tank, wait for battle to be over, check tank's serial numbers, estimate German tank production.
Worked quite well actually

https://youtu.be/WLCwMRJBhuI

[night girder]

Oh I remember seeing that video yeah.

It's weird to say, but there was some genius to some of the wars. But in a macabre way.

[safe trench]

mew

[night girder]

A lot of technology was invented out of "necessity" (to win the war).

[dire igloo]

A lot of maths was discovered out of desire

[dire igloo]

And a lot of medicine was advanced out of cruelty

[night girder]

No war bonds?

[charred relic]

At one point that book was the difference between meat tonight... or no meat tonight lol

nah

unless my dad has some stashed somewhere i don't know about...

[night girder]

sounds like some civilization quote or something

[charred relic]

the plane and tank vouchers are neat

[night girder]

I don't know ...

Still interesting to hear different perspectives.

I admit, I didn't know about the food rationing happening.

[visual tree]

My parents always talked about hard times in Yugoslavia and rationing

Vouchers for gasoline, cooking oil and laundry detergent

[night girder]

Honestly, the whole world was struggling.

[visual tree]

There was a long line of people waiting to buy sugar

[grand berry]

Kinda reminds me of the ussr

[visual tree]

And you could drive a car only on odd/even days depending on your licence plate number

[night girder]

I remember a story that my grandma smuggled goods like butter and milk to people.

[grand berry]

You had lines up to like 8 hours for everything

[night girder]

So they want to half the cars on any given moment during the day on the roads.

[visual tree]

Yeah

[night girder]

Probably to keep the roads open or to reduce civilian victims.

[visual tree]

Correction: odd/even rule was implemented because of fuel shortage

[night girder]

Ooh interesting.

[visual tree]

Fuel was literally considered gold at those times

[night girder]

Yeah ofc. Fuel was gold.

[visual tree]

[charred relic]

yep fuel and oil

germany wanted those russian oil fields bad, it was that valuable

[night girder]

the tank brigades ran out. They had too.

[visual tree]

Rich people in Yugoslavia could get around the odd/even rule if they had two or more cars btw

[night girder]

they had two options, go back or push forward. The support was cut off. No supply lines.

germany ran out of fuel too.

[charred relic]

rich people always get around a lot of stuff lol

[visual tree]

Yeah 😅

I am not sure how license plate number was determined. Imagine if you bought two cars and both had odd or even licence plate number

[charred relic]

during covid everyone over here looking like a deserted island survivor since no hair cut... and some politician is going to the salon not even masking properly

wanna piss almost everyone off... that's how you piss almost everyone off lol

[night girder]

how many people could afford fuel?

don't think people really wanted to drive that often. I don't know.

[visual tree]

I guess people didn't have much money then and they had to be very frugal

[night girder]

I would be digging a bunker or something.

[charred relic]

Those were all the rage during the cold war...

[night girder]

still are

[visual tree]

I still have picture of my dad while he was in uniform and serving the military

[charred relic]

I have 8mm footage of choppers landing in vietnam

[night girder]

I got pictures from my granddad in uniform too

[charred relic]

😄

and other misc shennanigans

[grand berry]

Chances you could send those

?

[night girder]

and a dagger from the military 😛 He used it for his bread to put jelly on it etc. 👌

[visual tree]

He told me a story about some idiot in the military who was learning to drive a tank and managed to destroy the whole barracks

[grand berry]

Do you have a digital copy

[night girder]

Yeah, I got stories too. So funny how it's relatable.

Everyone across the world telling kinda the same stories.

[grand berry]

Thats sick

[visual tree]

I think pictures of my dad in military uniform were in an old black briefcase. Don't know where the briefcase is tbh lol

[charred relic]

i have a digital copy but i'd need to snip those bits out, msot of it is family footage

[night girder]

I got his storage box from the military. I put all his stuff in there. It's next to me atm lol 😄

[charred relic]

My dad was an advisor training South Vietnamese troops

[visual tree]

My dad was probably chilling around when he had to serve mandatory military service lol

[charred relic]

That footage has gone from 8mm to VHS to digital heh

Have footage of me playing with a toy that's probably worth who knows what now...

[night girder]

here come the family pictures

[charred relic]

Millennium Falcon toy... ther eis one on ebay that is currently sitting at 575 bucks

oh nm that's a repro from 2012... lame

[visual tree]

Sadly, I don't have memories before my 5th birthday because of drunk tractor driver hitting me and me ending up in coma

[night girder]

I keep looking at the landing gear/bar. It's not one straight bar like most helicopters have?

[visual tree]

There are like pictures of me playing with toys but I actually don't remember ever having those toys

[charred relic]

looks pretty standard to me... two skids curved in the front

[night girder]

Most have this.

Oh wait. Yeah. Perspective is messing with it.

[pure karma]

i dont think anyone other than my great grandma in my recent family tree was around during ww2

[night girder]

I though it was modified.

Which would be interesting.

[charred relic]

think it's just the angle and quality

it could have had something mounted there, my dad might remember if they were loaded with something in particular

[night girder]

Yeah bit hard to see.

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWijx_AgPiA

crank it

[onyx pike]

W song

[night girder]

Apparantly my granddad didn't lie to me when he told me he gave me a German dagger from WO2.

epicartifacts.com/product/rzm-hitler-youth-knife/

He did remove the emblem from the hilt though and replaced it.

Yeah, I haven;t opened this box in ages. And it's filled to the brim with photos and relics.

No, wooden box. They can't enter 😄

It's actually his old footlocker from the army.

[dire igloo]

Sütterlin?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sütterlin

Probably closer to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraktur

Yeah, quite hard to read if you're unfamiliar with it - even worse if you encounter words that are spelled differently nowadays

[night girder]

I even found some ... propaganda pamflets in here.

Which I wont be posting here

[night girder]

Well, you missed all the talk yesterday 😄

[night girder]

Huh? I didn't see any mods.

and what I read yesterday was civil.

[night girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpcWv1lHU6I

AI getting sued.

Evil company acccusing other evil company of doing evil things.
TLDR; Disney wants 💰

[safe trench]

first w disney done?

[night girder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Walt_Disney_Company enjoy the list.

Starting with how they riped off the lion king.

Original is to the right.

And stuff like this:

[pure karma]

oh absolutely but at the same time no one else is willing to be competent enough to compete with steam sooo.....

atleast on the software and consumer side of things

[modest isle]

it got too big for its own shoes. a die-off will help bring egoes and expectations back more in line with reality

all of it

the industry

[modest isle]

skilled makers making as skillfully as they ever were. what changed is all that bureaucracy that came along with all the profits

growth is not always good. sometimes it's just cancer

[safe trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/384021699466756107/1381847820209885184/image.gif

[safe trench]

mew

[twin dew]

Also, Disney was the primary driver on every US copyright term limit extension.

[twin dew]

From 10+10 years to current 75 years.

[charred relic]

As you wish...

[modest isle]

man im glad my cats dont make weird howling sounds like that

owls sound like they are dying but are probably just saying 'sup Jim, saw a rat in that bush if ur hungry'

well they do make odd noises when they bring 'gifts' but thankfully that isnt at midnight like with the owls

[thin trout]

someone called you an owl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xEZP39pBsc

[dire igloo]

owls are cute

Bird hardware running cat software

I've noticed several people block me cuz I refuse to tell them what they want to hear - or because I start debating as to why I think they're wrong

The annoying part isn't that it makes me think they hate me, it makes me realize how many people in this world would rather stick to their make-believe wrongness than ever be challenged into different viewpoints

[dire igloo]

Ironically, several of these people have also unblocked me later cuz they realized that I had valuable knowledge they wanted

Have you not seen me arguing in here?
I'm obnoxious as hell when I think someone else is wrong

Would you say you have a drinking problem or is it just a different lifestyle?

Remember what?

I don't. Someone doesn't want to hear what I have to say, they are free to block me.

Funny shit is when they start complaining about me still talking as if them blocking me means I have to shut up

Does make for some funny interactions when they say something, I correct it and they keep talking and I keep correcting until someone else asks them why they're continuously making wrong statements

At least among my grandparents and their siblings, I am unaware of any Nazis - the ones I do know were just trying not to stand out negatively

I don't

Wasn't Cascada some ESC competitor a few years back?

wdym?

I got my Great Uncle to visit my school when I was in 9th grade.
We had a 90min history lesson where he talked about his experience during WW2 and in the post war time.

One of my fondest memories

Ah, you mean German EDM?
Have you checked out HBz?

[dire igloo]

To clarify: it was just my class he talked with (like 30 people), not the entire school

[dire igloo]

Hm, wondering who else would fall in that genre

Never heard of them (well, Berlin as the capital of Germany, but not in a sense of music)

And Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill as actors of course

[dire igloo]

Uhm... What?

I legitimately can't tell if those are the actual names or if you're having a stroke

But after the "is" my understanding of what you're saying goes out the window

I understand that there seems to be a German DJ duo called Spencer and Hill, but I'm yet to understand the rest of that message.

Were you talking about who is part of that duo?

and who or what is cadacada?

Yanou isn't part of S&H

It's Manian and Manuel Schleis

Yanou is Yann Pfeifer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanou

Cascada is Yanou and Manian tho (plus singer)

R.I.O. is Cascada minus the singer

[dire igloo]

Also: Cascada competed for Germany at the ESC 2013 with a knockoff of Euphoria

I won't

Also: why are you typing so chaotically?

Hello, police?
Yes, this guy right here

Howdydoo

I'm okay, in accordance with the circumstances.
Not great, but not totally wrecked either

Anyways, I'll go back to watching TV now

[dire igloo]

wdym Winamp me?
Also what would I even hold against you?

You're confusing

[night girder]

Yeah first they “steal” and then they copywrite it.

I am just curious for the consequences long term. Because legal cases like this can influence all future AI cases.

So if AI “wins” it opens the door legally for AI.

If Disney wins. It closes the door for AI (a bit).

And as discussed in video. It all depends on how the AI was trained. If copyright material was used or not.

[modest isle]

so am i rooting for disney for once?? this is awkward....

[night girder]

Ah finally ... home 😄

[night girder]

Haha, it's a weird situation that's for sure 😄

[night girder]

working

[languid gulch]

got server mergers on my mmo coming in a couple weeks, and the latest update has involved them prepping to introduce a new race by using an old race to skin the new one, and now the old race has the new race's skins as options

and some people's face skins are turned 90 degrees on their skull

[languid gulch]

some high quality shit here

[safe trench]

i love my shitty laptop

i used 6 nuclear missiles in ntm and it has closed and reopened multiple times so far

[languid gulch]

ntm?

[safe trench]

yes
the minecraft mod

[languid gulch]

ah

[charred relic]

ntm?

[mental oriole]

wtf

[twin dew]

In the eyeglass stores?

[languid gulch]

seeing the 5500X3D 9 years after AM4 launched is fucking hilarious

has any platform had 9 years of new CPUs introduced?

[languid gulch]

www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/futureflight/2025-06-03/beta-makes-first-electric-flight-new-york-city-airport

first actual passenger in an electric plane

"According to Beta, the energy cost for the 45-minute flight was just $7 compared with what it estimated as $160 in fuel costs for a helicopter making the same trip."

[twin dew]

And intentionally misleading comparison.

Because comparable traditionally powered fixed wing aircraft exist.
That their other planned model could be compared to helicopters, but not this now tested model.

[languid gulch]

i assume they made the comparison since it followed a tradionally helicopter route

[twin dew]

Which any of the comparable fixed wing aircraft also would use?

For same endpoints, limited to actual airports with runways.

[languid gulch]

would be nice to see the direct comparison

[twin dew]

And the use for helicopters is just because of all the other routes in the area that helicopters can do, but fixed wing aircraft cannot.

So they are available, while comparable aircraft aren't in common usage because of the very limited routes they could do.

Which then that other version can do, but with much higher electricity usage from the VTOL portions.

[languid gulch]

i do suspect that these types of short/medium distance flights are where electric planes are going to show up first

still tho, nice to see it starting finally

[twin dew]

Yes, because the flight time is shorter, so you need less batteries, so you need less total weight, so you need less batteries. Going round and round.

[night girder]

Wow, this is wild.

37,4TB in 45 seconds 😒 That's one hell of a DDOS attack.

[manic cipher]

YouTube does not like the Brave Browser.

[willow pike]

do not use brave, it hijacks affiliates like Honey does, replaces ads with its own and a bunch of other bullshit

use firefox with ublock origin to guarantee youtube adblocking

chrome with ublock origin lite if you really have to, but understand that will be less effective

[mental oriole]

Lost in transit

[dire igloo]

I'd rather use Edge before I ever install Chrome or any other derivative.
There are usecases where I depend on Chromium, but they're rare enough that it's not worth installing extra shit for

[mental oriole]

I guess that's to burn.

[willow pike]

edge with ublock origin (lite) is acceptable

[mental oriole]

It's made out of foxium.

[opaque spire]

Hi all, anyone have a good way to setup streaming games from PC to TV in the living room?
House has 1 gig internet that stays really solid, and the PC is already on a Ethernet port.
Have a chromast on my TV in the living room and I’ve tried using the steam link app but:

1. since it’s on WiFi there’s very noticeable drops.
2. sound is bugged and haven’t found a fix that worked

There’s an available Ethernet port in the living room but chromecast does not have a ethernet port

I’d love to play satisfactory from living room/kitchen for cozy vibes with the newborn 🤣

[twin dew]

On some models of Chromecast, the official power brick also has ethernet port.
That gets passed to the Chromecast over the USB connection.

[opaque spire]

Huh I didn’t know I’ll have to look. Think the chromecast could be fine to stream games after that? Just needs a speed boost

[pure karma]

is it really that much of a potatoe

cause like you only really need like 25mbit to stream games at rock bottom

[twin dew]

Not about bandwidth, about interruptions.

[pure karma]

realistically atleast 50 for anything above 1080P 60 but yea

[twin dew]

Does the stuff as UDP, so anything lost is lost.

Causing drops in playback.

[glossy glacier]

chrome or derivatives
You do know brave is chromium based?

[dire igloo]

Yes, I do - which is why I didn't disagree with the Anti-Brave criticism and only added to the Chrome mention

[pure karma]

kade will riot when he learns this

[dire igloo]

My go-to is Firefox for almost everything.
And the stuff that doesn't work in Firefox and needs Chromium, I'll just use Edge

[pure karma]

i avoid edge like its a virus

[dire igloo]

imo, it's the best solution if you ever need Chromium

[pure karma]

i just tried opening it and it imediately broke

[dire igloo]

Well duh

Cuz nobody ever bothers to set it up

[pure karma]

ew copilot is built in omg

[dire igloo]

Skill issue

[pure karma]

WHY IS THIS SETTINGS THING EVEN HERE

ay atleast all the bloat is gone ig

other than the browser itself

[twin dew]

Because our OS is broken?

[pure karma]

its just edge, its fine

which reminds me

i havent debloated this install

bye bye linkedin

[opaque spire]

When building it’s torture so I didn’t even try.
I was exploring for hard drives yesterday and tried it again and it wasn’t too bad.
But the sound bug is awful too, and a lot of stuff online seems to point that it’s related to the bandwith issue.
Make sound is coming through, but it’s very hollow and clearly missing stuff

Playing games like Stardew and animal crossing has made me really want to enjoy satisfactory on the couch 🤣🤣
I know the genre super different but at the same time it’s the same relaxing vibe for me

[pure karma]

honestly id just say get a garbage pc that has decent ethernet and just use it as a streaming dummy

would save you a lot troubles

and if you wana get crazy with it use linux so you can go even lower end

[opaque spire]

Huh ya I could see that being a route too. It’s just streaming you’re right so doesn’t need much at all

[visual tree]

Only 34 degrees celsius and already had issues starting a car engine. Managed to turn on the engine after 3rd attempt

Too bad there is no shade where I park and my car is really sensitive to hot temperatures

[jagged snow]

Caurberated?

[visual tree]

Not sure if I should trust ChatGPT but it says Seat Leon 1.4 TSI from 2009 doesn't have carburetor

My car model is well-known for having issues with electronics though. Had to replace trunk lock 2 times already

Also remember when I had some other issues and car mechanic fixes it by simply resetting the computer

At least I don't own Mazda. We joke around here how Mazda is parked most of it's time at the car mechanic due to big issues with electronics

[languid gulch]

one thing that i wish they'd regulate back into existence is having the little tabs or knobs on door locks so that if your battery dies or something, you can at least get out of your fucking car

[night girder]

you stuck?

[languid gulch]

no but my car has the tiny little stick ones that go flush with the door, no way to grab it and manually unlock a door

it's my first car with this style and i absolutely hate it

[quiet drift]

@wanton orchid #dedicated-servers message

[wanton orchid]

#dedicated-servers message @nimble timber

so depends your usecase actually

[nimble timber]

I see

[quiet drift]

Dang what card are you using

[nimble timber]

Just curious because I've been using linux pretty reliably for a while now and figured I should get a real card for my machine

I have a good nvidia card but I get stuttering and other stuff

[quiet drift]

People seem too like the 7800 and 7900 AMD cards on Linux

[nimble timber]

I have an RTX 2070 Super

[quiet drift]

Oh yeah that's dude for an upgrade if your playing anything intensive

[nimble timber]

maybe i will check out these amd cards you mentioned

[quiet drift]

The newest cards are the AMD 9070XT and 9060 but I want to say people were struggling on those in Linux. I'd validate that claim independently though

[wanton orchid]

that should be stable under nouveau

[nimble timber]

got it - yeah I will take a look

[wanton orchid]

if you have an up to date system I recommend you use nouveau

[nimble timber]

Honestly I get stuttering from Satisfactory on all my machines,... even windows machines

i only play on a dedicated server so maybe its something network related...

[wanton orchid]

(nouveau recently got unlocked for 20series and up)

[nimble timber]

oh cool

[wanton orchid]

now for performance, will not be the most ideal setup

but for compatibility 20series nouveau driver should be good

basically for anything before 20series its crap

20series and up, it's well supported

[nimble timber]

good to know

[wanton orchid]

up to things like fan control and hardware encoder

basically nvidia published open gsp for 20series and up cards

so now nouveau can directly talk to hardware management sub system

[nimble timber]

thats badass

[wanton orchid]

10series card got mixed support from both nvidia driver and nouveau
and both are moving on
so 10series for linux is deprecated

everything before that is shit, abandoned

nouveau cant support

and nvidia never wanted nor will ever

[nimble timber]

Thank you for all the info on this - making me want to go look at hardware :P)

[wanton orchid]

for amd side its good on linux, good support, all features ultimately (even if it can take time for unlock and fixing stuff)

but it's not always so good in pure amd feature support, or hardware itself

depending on your needs

so 9070xt is good for features, but is only now getting there support wise

[nimble timber]

I don't even know what these things cost these days - have to go check it out

[wanton orchid]

and amd may still suffer from reset problems if you are doing gpu virtualization passthrough

[wanton orchid]

expensive

[pure karma]

4X what there worth for 4X less real frames

[nimble timber]

lol

well thank you gents - I'm out for now

[wanton orchid]

9070xt is 200% to 300% 2070super depending on game though

@quiet drift #dedicated-servers message
and its not even gtx

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-gt218s.g140

*nvidia gpu* then

also nvidia gpu (today) :

the latest nvidia gpu is literally physically more than 6 thousands times more powerful than this old gpu I have

6000 00% performance increase

[pure karma]

thats 60X ...

[languid gulch]

TPU lists the 5090 as 170x as powerful as my laptop gpu from 2007

[pure karma]

the lowest end dedicated gpu that i know of that i rocked is only 3X slower than a 5090

that kinda shows how little tech has improved in the last decade more than anything

[languid gulch]

i hope that people have realized you can only have so many pixels before it just looks downright real

i can see that as one of the reasons why GPUs haven't gotten that much more powerful

stuff was looking pretty good even 10 years ago

& ngl cranked ray tracing isn't some kind of transcendent experience

at this point i wouldn't mind some decent storylines and mechanics in games

[pure karma]

weve barely been able to hold 4K

were not even at the point yet were id say every game is playable at 4K max settings on a gpu you can just get in plentyfull stock rn

i dont this the real level of pixels argument is gonna come in until like 16-32K

like at 27 inches i can see pixelation in 1440P

at 4K if i looked closely probably

8K honestly i doubt it

but right now 8K is essentially the max 16K for video playback ig if your rolling in cash

and obviously its exclusive to tvs

[twin dew]

In that TSI (Turbo Stratified Injection), that T means Turbo, I is for Injection, and SI in combination seems to be for direct injection (fuel injection direct to combistion chambers).
Might be that the intake valve side would need cleaning, as on direct injection vehicles, that can get clogged over time, where as in carburetted and non-direct injection (injection into intake manifold), the gasoline cleans the intake valves all the time.
Or beginning turbo problems, those are often around 150000 km life AFAIK, or electronics as you say.

Ah, no, S was for supercharger in those TSIs.

So there is both turbo and supercharger, and then direct injection in VW TSI engines (also used in that Seat).

[languid gulch]

yea but what about the vibrating seats

[twin dew]

Or might even be something classic like spark plugs etc.

[languid gulch]

🤣

[thin trout]

On Doom DA, 5090 still plays better with 720p>1080p upscale and 4x framegen than it does to reduce/remove either of those things

we've pretty much moved away from the "more pixels" approach to making those pixels better quality instead because we have "enough" pixels.

Not enough to stop seeing benefit, that scales up to at least 8k and 10,000hz for a 24" screen, but enough that the computing power is usually deemed to be better spent elsewhere.

Every doubling of resolution or framerate costs twice as much while the absolute benefit is less than the prior doubling.

[thin trout]

5090 is around 3x a 3090, which is <5yrs old flagship

The low end to upper midrange of both nvidia and radeon's catalogue have suffered from severe shrinkflation since then

but the rate of progress overall has not changed much when adjusting for that

you mostly just have to pay 2-3x as much for the same "quality" of stuff due to all of the non-gaming competition (3090 was on a cheaper node than 5090, and also less maxed out)

[glossy glacier]

My 9070 works fine. Just make sure the kernel is up-to-date.
Mint was too old but Ubuntu 25 and fedora 43 are fine

[twin dew]

And on most Debian derivatives, there is option to upgrade to newer kernel without upgrading rest of the system.

Linux Kernel 6.12 or newer as minimum it seems, with 6.13 or 6.14 recommended.

Possibly 6.13.5 as actual minimum.

And possibly MESA 25 as workable minimum, and possibly needing "split_lock_detect=off" kernel parameter.

[safe trench]

mew

[night girder]

maybe for christmas?

[pure karma]

oh well according to the website that i checked the 1070 = 3090 in that case

[thin trout]

3090 has 36 tflops single precision, 5090 has 105. On RT it's 71 vs 318, so >4x. Tensor is up by 8-16x for some workloads.

They basically copy/pasted a 3090 to have two of them on the SM side, clocked them up by 50%, improved IPC in some ways, went to GDDR7 & a 33% wider bus, then increased the cache capacity by 16x.

large parts of the GPU being idle in games is a bigger issue than ever though - you can see some speedups closer to 2x on games that don't utilise tensor/RT and become e.g. memory latency bound, but when it's not bound by parallelism or some bottleneck you can get those full 3-4x

really what makes most of the gen bad is that the 5060ti is more what would be called a 5050 not long ago etc. The press would be even worse if they sold a 5050 for those prices, so they do it anyway but they write 5060ti on the box. Fewer people notice that way.

3080 was ~80% of a 3090/titan. 5080 is only 50%, and the cutbacks get way more severe further down the lineup

[pure karma]

well yea its just the usual force people into buying the highest tear if they want a good product

its ususal scummy buisness practices

[pure karma]

guys i did the impossible

i broke steam

[night girder]

I doubt anyone is surprised 🤣

[tough owl]

if anyone can break steam is magicz

[mental oriole]

if anyone can break insert product here is magicz

[visual tree]

MagicZ is under so much pressure he blew up some steam

[night girder]

Or it's maxeek hacking skills, since he hates steam 🤷‍♂️

👆

[visual tree]

He is trying to destroy Steam Summer sale

[mental oriole]

Before it starts...

[visual tree]

He has 1 day and 23 hours left

[mental oriole]

Like usual, probably not buying anything...

[night girder]

You know… there arent any games I want atm.

[mental oriole]

mmm

Most stuff dropping next year or later this year.

[night girder]

Maybe Stalker 2? But last I read its still buggy

[mental oriole]

At least that I'm interested in.

[night girder]

And i doubt stalker 2 has good discount

[visual tree]

I'm waiting for PC version of UPS Simulator 2 a.k.a. Death Stranding 2

[night girder]

Aaaah

I asked if anyone was playing walking simulator 2 in general

[visual tree]

They haven't announced PC version yet but they probably will later like they did with DS 1

[night girder]

Eh not my type of game.

70 minute cutscenes? No thank you 😂

[pure karma]

same story here

[visual tree]

Guess I love walking and delivering packages

[visual tree]

Oh, I remember finishing the game and staying up until 2 a.m. in order to finish watching the cutscene lol

[mental oriole]

Not really.

[night girder]

Is it true? Death standing has that long cutscenes/movies?

[visual tree]

The ending has long cutscene

[mental oriole]

Dunno what game but there is one that has like a 90min, it was covered on outsidexbox, or their extra channel.

[visual tree]

Forgot about the rest of the game cutscenes tbh

[night girder]

Haha 😂

Well I didnt expect a second game

[visual tree]

At least I helped with other players build a highway and connect cities/UCA ❤️

The slogan of my company is literally "Connecting your world". Guess I found my life call 🤣

I find it ironic that we tech nerds love computer networks which are used to connect everything but don't like connecting to people

At least in person that is 🤣

[night girder]

Speak for yourself 😂

[visual tree]

Ok, I like connecting to normal people and not idiots from work

I still can't forget that team building event with paintball. There were 2 teams but instead of fighting one another, everyone decided to shoot former head of department in the head lol

[modest isle]

lol that's like the grown up version of the 'dunk your teach' booth at the local fair

[charred relic]

So apparently the Xbox PC app will now list Battle.net and Steam games...

How about maybe... make the interface itself better...seems like a pretty neat idea

[visual tree]

Hope it's not as bad as the new netflix interface

[glossy glacier]

it's in preparation for the new handheld UI

[charred relic]

Too bad we can't have that level of stripped down for desktop

[glossy glacier]

who knows, maybe the iso gets leaked

[charred relic]

I'd imagine it'd be a lot of work to get it functional given the varying hardware

[glossy glacier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[charred relic]

I'm sure it can be done.. you can do a lot to strip windows down as it is with enough work

[glossy glacier]

it is still windows under the hood. give it the right drivers and it may work

it's just a lot of the "normal" services and UI is just not loaded

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws6BXwRngTc

can we just retire the 737 max ffs

[night girder]

Pretty detailed video. Nice 👍

But it seems that it's more of a manual issue? Like he said; the manual was updated. But pilots don't get paper updates anymore, that they used to read before putting in the checklist. Now they update their iPad and get new manuals, but don't look at the updates? (which I find a bit weird?).

[languid gulch]

i find it a design flaw that the bolt can fragment, nick the oil channels, and then dump oil into the ventilation system

[night girder]

Is it a design flaw when they have contingency and safety measurements in place for such events?

[languid gulch]

when it's a stupid amount down the checklist? yea, i'd say so

[night girder]

I mean, he talks about the PRSOV valve which closes and stops the smoke from entering.

[night girder]

Well that's where I am confused.

Did the pilots have the updated version or not?

Because the old version;

yes the checklist solution was 3 pages far.

The updated version;

checklist was only 4 steps and then it was shut down PRSOV.

[languid gulch]

if the cabin fills with smoke before they can read the checklist to shut off the valve, i'd call that a design flaw

[night girder]

You know. You are right.

Because if they knew it was a design flaw, it would be in the manual from the start.

[languid gulch]

but it's also a design flaw to have the ventilation intake behind the oil channels that can allow it to happen in the first place

[night girder]

The fact they needed to update manual, means the company didn't know.

[languid gulch]

and it's based on the apparently incorrect assumption that those LRD bolts will never fragment after shearing

[night girder]

that video of that engine test was scary 😒

I wouldn't want to fly a plane with an engine shaking like that oof.

[languid gulch]

it's one hell of a safety design

i like that it detaches, that saves the plane

[night girder]

well it has too ...

[night girder]

New Energy labels for smartphones in EU.

Durability , repairability, cycle of battery and dust/water protection. Those factors decide the energy score. And duration of battery.
And this will be mandatory.

[pure karma]

1300 charges?!!! thats it?

brother i would nuke that battery in a year not even

[night girder]

That is for 80% of battery life.

Factory must test couple of phones and see how many cycle untill only 80% is left.

Then consumer needs to do the rest of the math.

So in theory, 6500 cycli? I don't understand why they don't just put full cycle untill 0%.

Maybe it takes too long to test this out?

[charred relic]

Better for cell longevity

And I'm sure the hardware/software prevents undervolt but going to literal 0 on those cells would destroy the cell

20% is a good place to start charging... and 80% for storage

80% also isn't a bad spot to stop charging unless you need more.

[night girder]

Huh?

[charred relic]

You see those numbers quite a bit with batteries

[night girder]

It's if you do 1300 charges. You get 80% battery life.

[charred relic]

I know that I'm talking general longevity

[night girder]

Not 80% battery left.

[charred relic]

which is why they don't go to 0%

it's bad for the battery... and you shouldn't go past about 80% unless you need it.

[night girder]

Ok, but still 80%? 😕

[charred relic]

the 80% is usually a warranty cuttoff for batteries

[night girder]

It's a bit confusing for consumers.

[charred relic]

as in if it will only hold 80% of it's original capacity

[night girder]

Ok, but as you just read, Magic was already confused.

And the label is just icons. Atleast the one I found in the article.

It was the article itself clarifying it all.

[charred relic]

The 80% when seeing charge suggestions I get, why 80% is the cuttoff for warranties on cells I dunno

[night girder]

Eh, I rather have a estimate of full cycli.

8000 - 10 000 or something.

Even if it's an estimate.

[night girder]

Do you care a lot about the warranty of your phone? Or about the lifespan of the battery?

[charred relic]

There isn't much that can be done on lifespan

you can try to measure it, but a cell starts to die the moment it's made.

[night girder]

Well, if one smartphone dies after 3 years and a second one after 10 years be cause of the cycli.
It does matter to me.

[charred relic]

The cell isn't going to matter, the device will

a device that sips power and requires less charging will last longer

[night girder]

That's what it tells 😕

80% - 1300 cycli with that device.

[charred relic]

Every time you charge you do damage...

[night girder]

Exactly... that's the whole point about it.

[charred relic]

Just sitting on a shelf... it's degrading.

[night girder]

And it's different per smartphone.

[charred relic]

More or less depending on charge state, which is where 80% shows up again

[night girder]

So some will have 80% at 3000 cycli, another at 5000 cycli. It relates to the lifespan.

[charred relic]

These handheld gaming rigs that chew threw a charge in a few hours are going to have their batteries brutalized lol

[pure karma]

Yea indeed, because that is the worst system i have ever seen in my life

[charred relic]

I'd need to charge 2x a day at least probably... for some percentage of top off

[pure karma]

i could absolutely understand the testing only to 80% to save time

[night girder]

Yeah me too. And the warranty thing. But I also find it confusing for consumers.

[pure karma]

but not specifying thats the metric and not total charge cycles is dumb

[charred relic]

the test is to find out how much abuse the cell takes before it can only hold 80% of it's original capacity

Like an iphone has a guage that shows you battery health

[pure karma]

actually that reminds me

[charred relic]

Which I'm sure has some estimating being done but whatever...

[pure karma]

i wanted to check on my laptops battery after a year of my abuse

[charred relic]

None of those measurements are an exact science really

[pure karma]

doing 100->15 multiple times a day everyday

[night girder]

Indicators. Still better than nothing 🤷‍♂️

and it's also to make consumers aware about durability. And it even shows how easy the device is to repair.

Easy in the sense that you can bring it into a shop and get it repaired probably 😄

and not like apples macbook where you probably need to replace the whole motherboard and it costs 600-700 euro 😛

[charred relic]

outside of warranty mine would go to a 3rd party if anything, but given the age of the phone i'd likely just get a new phone at this point if it died

[night girder]

mine will die. It's so old.

iphone 6s

[charred relic]

Mine is only 2 years old and I don't really want to upgrade but if it dies I will

[pure karma]

my ipad really wants replaced but im not letting it

[night girder]

if it works, it works 🤷‍♂️

[charred relic]

My ipad isn't all that old... an M2 Air

[pure karma]

its at the point where its having multi second long system hangs on something as simple as video playback

[charred relic]

If I spend money on that kinda tech right now I want the apple watch

my smart watch doesn't really integrate as well as I'd like

[pure karma]

and its only from 2018 altho that does make 7 years now huh?

[night girder]

mine is maybe 9 years old 😛

I just need to remember to make backups for when it dies.

[charred relic]

I love my iPad

[pure karma]

I wonder if my original ipad 3rd gen still works

[charred relic]

As it turns out... the walled garden is kinda nice o.O

[pure karma]

it has no wifi support anymore but it probably turns on

[night girder]

no wifi support?

like apple disabled your wifi or what you saying?

[charred relic]

maybe only supports wireless g

I had an old tablet of sorts that's sole purpose was to connect to RDP. Couldn't even play with it right now becuase it only supports B

It also wouldn't suport to new security stuff but that can be turned off, might still actually connect to a remote desktop if it could get on the network.

Tobacco Shop Simulator. Well I have to tell you I managed one for a number of years and ummm it's not all that exciting.

[safe trench]

drug dealer 25 simulator?

[charred relic]

I got busted so now I'm playing Prison Life Simulator

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FoSJZD5jH4

micro center in santa clara

and he mentions that he'll be at the phoenix one once it opens

[charred relic]

I love that place

If they put one ont he south side I'll be super happy///

And it's not like it's because they're the only game around it's actually a good store with good pricing.

[languid gulch]

i'm just glad they're finally putting one within a sane distance of me

[pure karma]

Yep or the driver finally gave out after 6 years with no updates

[wanton orchid]

there is no such thing as total battery cycling

a device with half the battery capacity isn't the same device in regards to use cases

you have to draw a line of consistency
over 80% whatever the degradation curve it's bearable
below 80% whatever the degradation curve it's mostly out of spec
you could arg it's ok down to 65%
but the closer you get to the evaluation point and the most predictable result you get practically
which means you can still derive from the evaluation metric value

further than that, it gets very inconsistent
but further than that the use cases changed already any way
and the battery may be dead

battery chemistry isn't linear curves

tldr: a battery with 65% capacity
may also be a battery with only 30% charging efficiency (overheating)
may also be a battery with voltage drop down to 30% basically killing the device

battery with lower stock efficiency and capacity have a longer life actually
because they do not have same chemistry and working ranges
a higher efficiency and capacity battery dropping to those same spec isn't going to live longer because of it but is going to die very quickly instead

[languid gulch]

it's almost like they should be easy to swap out when something goes wrong with them

[charred relic]

Nope everybody wanted smaller/thinner/sleeker/lighter so they had to seal them in 😄

i had 3 batteries for my micro-tac, two slim/normal and one "fat".

[pure karma]

Far from everyone

Corporations did to save money on materials

[charred relic]

enough did

[pure karma]

true but there comes a point where its too much

like laptops for example

they have reached a point where they are pure unusable ewaste from the size shrinkage

If having a laptop thats twice as thick is what it takes to have a functional product i want the laptop thats twice as thick

[charred relic]

once upon a time the batteries for laptops were even servicable since they just used banks of 18650's

Now THAT is a terrible use of space heh

And depending on the brand/model it might be an upgrade over the OEM cells...

But you're right though even from a technical standpoint it was going to happen, it's just easier to engineer everything into one package.

water and dustproofing is another benefit

[night girder]

Why is this so important for smartphones, but not for laptops?

This is going to piss some people off, but I always viewed a smartphone as a small glorified computer 😛

Or maybe that's the next step for EU to also clarify cycli for laptop batteries?

This is for a washing machine 😒

[night girder]

So, they could have gone for 65% but they went for 80%. Because that's also the warranty limit.

Ecodesign Regulation from EU:

• use of more durable batteries, capable of at least **800 **charge cycles while retaining at least **80% **of their initial capacity

[languid gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8LDwmI0RQA

the hardware and process tech talk in here is amazing

it's 100% functional

[pure karma]

now you got me jealous

i want to watch it but im stuck ay sea and dont want to waste all my mobile data 😅

[soft bloom]

what's up with the taboo on labeleing what LLM does as "thinking"?

[wanton orchid]

did you really only read half of my message ?
65%would be abused from manufacturers
you don't want a device going 65% day 2
and it would provide useless accuracy for a case not being in focus
I said you vaguely know for 65% already by knowing about 80% and at 65% it's too late it already degraded
you don't want to know how to degrade
but how long it will NOT be degraded
i.e 80%
80% is already quiet low btw
there are batteries holding 90%+ for quiet a long time

consumers will still be able to go 65% to reduce waste, but :

1. from 80% to 65% it will come fast anyway
2. 80% will always apply to all the manufacturers so it will become comparable, and manufacturer will fight for good batteries

so 80% is a good choice

[night girder]

If you say so.

[feral drift]

I really like the A-G categorization..

Because I have no fucking clue what the actual difference is on an A or a G is on energy level..

I know in the TV world, the difference is around 10€ difference on the electrical bill yearly on an higher rated TV compared to a lower rated TV

Its like PC Part brands comparing with a graph, showing a huge difference on a 3.2Ghz and 3.25Ghz Processor.. When in reality its next to no difference performance wise :D

[night girder]

That reminds me, it's one of the critiques I keep reading on local forums (local in the sense of my country and neighbours).
That the energy label is starting to get confusing because;

a) it doesn't relate to energy alone anymore (see factors of smartphone like repairability, waterproof, dustproof etc).
b) the energy label is different per product

[feral drift]

I havn't noticed imho..

But are you telling me, that our dear friends in Brussels are discarding the IPxx factor, and replacing it with their own terminology ? :D

Ah can see they still include the IP rating on their label..

[night girder]

Brussel and it's friends are doing their best 🙈 I mean, the label is a lot to take in. But people will just look at the color.

Green good.
Red bad.

[feral drift]

Seems like they really want Idiocrazy conditions in this century

Seems like Brussels is going Rush B, no stop!! on getting Idiocrazy conditions :D

[tough owl]

Do yall have recommendations for TWS earbuds for around $100usd?

[mental oriole]

yay, kde plasma update added bloat 🤣 "comic" strip.

[winged valley]

If you get it you get it

[pure karma]

I dont and now im more confused

[willow pike]

a Karen language

[safe trench]

truth nuke

[winged valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254374256595304548/1351801691191906366/truthnukeacd.gif

[winged valley]

betterwayelectronics

[charred relic]

well crap

[short ridge]

anyone elss think this mod should be vanilla https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/mods/index/details/id/68/name/Fluid+Extras/type/buildings fyi i do not know what this tab is manly for

[low scaffold]

Hello there fellow Pioneer!
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[languid gulch]

maybe

at least they're not forcing actual fluid dynamics on us and making us learn how to do neck sizing and pressurization

"oops, you just water hammered all your sulfuric acid!"

[feral drift]

I’ve figured the easiest way to handle fluid for 90% of the time.. Gravity

That and duct tape.. But duct tape is not available

[languid gulch]

my most advanced plumbing has been rerouting the drainage for the A/C on one side of my house

the original drain was placed with a slight upslope, in the foundation. pretty sure the water would back up badly enough that it killed 2 units. so the A/C guy's suggestion was either jackhammering it up and redoing it, or installing a pump and going up & over to keep the run as short as possible.

so i said screw both of those options, opened up sections of 2 walls, and rerouted it from the side yard to the front yard

with a visible downslope to it 🤣

[tribal kraken]

This is my PC coolant lines thru the wall. 12/10mm hard copper. Supports not screwed in yet as I realized I don't have pics of the completed install. It's kinda wip with UPS placement still, busy with other things

But the loop has been running nice for that nearly 2 months now. No leaks and no heat in PC-room, allthough its been coldest and rainiest June in a while in Finland.

[languid gulch]

cpu & gpu?

[tribal kraken]

9950X3D & 5090

[languid gulch]

lol

was asking if they're both being cooled that way

[tribal kraken]

yeah, ram too

[languid gulch]

wow nice

[tribal kraken]

#off-topic-tech message

[languid gulch]

ah, was a bit confused about the ram

i thought it was camm

[languid gulch]

ok got a discord related issue

running discord on admin stops me from being able to just click & drag the fun stuff like gifs & images straight from a drive onto it to post

[pure karma]

and you wish for what? a confirmation of the issue?

[languid gulch]

i'd like to be able to do that

without having to drop admin from it

[soft bloom]

I am 90% sure this is from Eastern Europe
or as my second crazy bet - England

[tribal kraken]

It's eastern Finland. That room must be done around 1960-70s last time. Building itself just before 1900

It's heritage protected house, can't demo it down

[dire igloo]

Technically, geographically, eastern europe

[twin dew]

But like Greece, Finland is not often referred as such, because on political side, that is often used to refer to the various parts that were part of USSR (+ Balkans in some cases), and not including Finland and Greece as those were mostly fully free and more western aligned.
Even when geographically that.

[tribal kraken]

Latest pic I have.

And oldest, from opposite side 🫣😂

Also from Icarus C42 few years back

[languid gulch]

flag's too small

[twin dew]

Standard size here in Finland as far as I can tell.

Ok, the "mandated" size is for the flags height to be sixth of the flag poles height.

So about right from measuring on from the pic.

pole height / flag height was about 6.2 with quick measurement.

[tribal kraken]

Yeah, I think its was 9m pole and 150x245cm flag

Rotten wooden pole was replaced with glassfiber one about year ago

[languid gulch]

there's one that's hilariously disproportionate near me

i bet it's on google earth

[twin dew]

In Finland the flags stay packed away, except for specific days of year that are "flag days".

[languid gulch]

same

more or less

at least for "normal people"

businesses/official buildings hang it whenever they feel like it

[tribal kraken]

Yeah that flag pic was taken 18th of May, Memorial day for fallen soldiers. We have the narrow and long flag too which just tells that the house owners are present at the house, and is legal to use any day

[languid gulch]

oh yea here it is

monstrously oversized

it's so big it basically takes a storm to get it to unfurl completely

[pure karma]

Is 90s wifi speeds an under or over statement for this router

i dont think iv ever unironically seen kilobits used as a measurement

[wanton orchid]

it basically means disconnected

it's smoothing

it's basically 1.5Mb every 4 seconds

[twin dew]

And you are still trying to use WiFi while in underground bunker, directly under the WiFi router that is on ground floor?

Where the standard antennas have donut shaped radiation patterns, with holes up and down?

Where the signal strength, even without obstructions, is minimal.

[languid gulch]

it's all being routed thru a nokia 3310 on the roof

[twin dew]

The stupid thing is that IIRC the ONT is in the same room with MagicZs computer stuff.
With ethernet cable then going upstairs.
But he just cannot be bothered to get a switch so he could use ethernet, and not the main NAT-router/WLAN AP for rest of the house.

[languid gulch]

just set up beamed microwave

[pure karma]

No im just stuck with a potato router for a bit

I nanaged to make it go faster but it still sucks lol

[languid gulch]

ok is the 9800X3D actually capable of 6.5GHz

cuz wtf

[twin dew]

Bad readings.
Default max is 5200MHz.

[languid gulch]

i assumed as much

[twin dew]

Tick this, Snapshot CPU Polling

[languid gulch]

so what causes the wacky inflated frequency numbers?

[feral drift]

Not sure what version you're using...

But can see they have previously had issue with false calculation on the average value..

Something like they're polling ect. 200 values.. but doing an average on a lower number.. hence making the average higher than expected..

[languid gulch]

using 1.55.0x64

[twin dew]

What software?

Not HWiNFO then?

[languid gulch]

HW monitor

[feral drift]

Ah was checking on HWInfo

[twin dew]

Same, as HWMonitor has really dropped behind AFAIK.

[languid gulch]

ah k

didn't know that

[feral drift]

From reddit 3 years ago

HWmonitor has issues with occasional faulty readings now. I think it's not filtering correctly.

Would expect this is why you see a higher Ghz than it actually is

[languid gulch]

yea when i had a 1700X it showed it occasionally hitting 4.5GHz all core 🤣

[twin dew]

Calls on reddit for multiple years for people to stop using HWMonitor because all the faulty reading stuff.

[languid gulch]

yea

might still hang onto it for hilariously wrong readings

[feral drift]

Not saying you should do so...

But it would add additional selling point, if you should decide to sell it 🙈

[tough owl]

HWinfo my beloved

[broken stratus]

I love my Tandy 1000SX

[broken stratus]

@manic cape I had some corrupted files lmao

[twin dew]

SFC will report that on first run on any Windows install, as by default there are some doubled up permissions.

[broken stratus]

well It's been a couple of years when I reinstalled windows

[soft bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_mtuLSRz-A
hmmm, sounds familiar

[night girder]

Huh, steam 🤣

How do you sell a free to play game

[mental oriole]

[night girder]

Also, whenever I open the top sellers, the steam deck is always n1. That's sus af.

[safe trench]

its by revenue

no duh the top selling gaming handheld will be number one

[night girder]

Ah, good catch. Then maybe War Thunder DLC is including in calculation.

because if a free to play game is top 4 by revenue ...

[safe trench]

dont forget the type of people who play that game

[night girder]

adults with jobs

😛

[safe trench]

how dare you say such a slur and not censor it?

@dusk rooterator, ban him.

[mental oriole]

People who leak company data

[cloud swan]

why do people dislike vsync so much

[glossy glacier]

because it can seriously hurt performance

[night girder]

it's locks fps to monitor refresh rate

[cloud swan]

isnt that good

[cloud swan]

how so

[night girder]

depends on the scenario. If you have screen tearing, it can help.

[cloud swan]

in what situation would it be negative?

[glossy glacier]

it looks at your monitors max refresh rate and tries to match it. if it can't, it goes to half the refresh rate, if it can't match that it goes to half of that, so on and so on

[cloud swan]

ohh

i see i see

[glossy glacier]

it also increases delay because it will only show fully rendered frames, instead of always the latest

but thats a situational nitpick

[night girder]

Ah, I didn't know about the halving of refresh rate if it can't match monitor.

I have it turned atm in a game because there is no need to run that game at high fps.

but it meets the monitors refresh rate, so I don't notice much.

let's see if I can just turn off vsync and fps lock.

Oh neat I can!

[glossy glacier]

gsync and freesync on the other hand can adjust the refreshrate of the monitor (to a degree) to match the outputed framerate
advantage of non-teared frames without the drawback of halved framerate

one "advantage" of vsync is that it caps the framewate to the refresh rate

[cloud swan]

warframe?

[night girder]

I wonder what Max framerate does different than vsync.

[dusk root]

Do you mind

[night girder]

I guess one synchronizes and the other just caps.

[mental oriole]

This pretty much.
Vsync usually causes input lag, why I never use it.

[glossy glacier]

vsync waits for the frame to finish drawing and then takes the last done frame to display next. all others between are discarded

framerate cap probably. if it can generate frames faster than it has to, a set amount of time before beginning the next?

tbh just gessing on the second

[safe trench]

yes

[pure karma]

I have always used vsync because its better than screen tearing

Dont exactly get much of a choice

[languid gulch]

the best part about watching tornado chaser videos is when the warning comes thru on their phone as if they're not literally right next to it

[twin dew]

Not half of the previous, integer divisors of the refresh rate, so for 60Hz display without variable refresh rate.
So 1/1 (60), 1/2 (30), 1/3 (20), 1/4 (15), etc.

[dire igloo]

which would happen to coincide with halving the previous if the refresh rate is a power of 2

[twin dew]

No?
Still that 1/3rd midpoint before 1/4th.

Result doesn't have to be integer, only the divisor.

[dire igloo]

Ah okay

Thought the result also had to be integer

[twin dew]

144Hz monitor, refresh per 6.944.... ms.
FPS with VSync: 144, 72, 48 etc.

59.5Hz monitor (can be set).
59.5, 29.75, 19,833... etc.

Basically with VSync, if you render at higher rate than refresh, you get new frame actually drawn each refresh.
If you drop even tiny bit below, you get same frame drawn twice, before next new frame gets drawn.
If you drop even more, you get same frame drawn thrice, and so on.

It doesn't care what the actual time is, just that it didn't have new frame to show, so it shows the previous again, as many times as needed until there is whole new frame to show.

While with VSync off, the GPU switches the output to the new frame at any point, so you get frame change during the monitors refresh.
Which then shows as discontinuity at the point where the frame was changed during refresh.

Where as with variable refresh rate, the actual monitor refresh is synced to the frame delivery, where classically the frame delivery was synced to the monitor refresh.

And if the rendering continues without pauses, and you have exactly 0.75 frames per refresh, you end up bouncing between 1 and 2 draws per frame, causing insane juddering as example.
As every second frame is shown once, every second frame is shown twice (so on screen double the time).

Which is why the rendering usually is paused if the previously finished frame hasn't been shown yet AFAIK.

Causing even more input lag.

[glossy glacier]

Probably paused yes, as otherwise it wouldn't work as a frame rate cap.

[twin dew]

Would anyways, as you are usually measuring (partially) displayed frames, not rendered frames.
And you cannot have more than the refresh rate.

If it was paused, would show up as GPU usage going down until next switch, then jumping higher, then going back down again for each of those divisors.

[twin dew]

As in this might be completely wrong.
And games just try to deal with this by the normal FPS compensation in movement etc.
Would need to tear much farther into it, might just have been very hazy wrong memory.

[twin dew]

Well, now that I think about it, you really must pause with double-buffering.
As you only have two frame buffers, one for the frame currently being sent to the monitor, and another for frame currently being rendered.
Where as with triple-buffering you had additional one for next ready frame.

Ah, no...
That is separate from how it works now.

[languid gulch]

mildly tempted to yank the battery out of my worn out M913 and try to stuff it into my current one 🤣

have like a solid month of battery charge

[willow pike]

swapchain is a complicated subject

[twin dew]

Yeah, and I don't know enough, was just too fresh up and spouted nonsense in parts.

[willow pike]

for fucks sake

wiki.special-k.info/en/SwapChain