off-topic-tech

[gilded helm]

Despite the best efforts of UPS to not get it to my, I finally have my G502X. And I immediately appreciate one thing. When I plug it in, there are zero popups. No install attempts. No giant system hang. It just works.

[winged valley]

Based G502 user

welcome to the cool kids club

Put all of the weights in it for extra cool points

[jagged snow]

g403 superiority

[winged valley]

No

[jagged snow]

It's my mouse for work and gaming

[winged valley]

Invalid opinion

[jagged snow]

It suits me best out of the three mice I've tried

[dire igloo]

🧱

[winged valley]

Yeah, a brick shithouse

Best mouse

[edgy hazel]

I rubbed through the rubber of my g502 and it just fell off.... 😦

[winged valley]

Good thing they're cheap

[gilded helm]

How well does Qi charging work for you all with Logitechs? I know it's not officially supported, but it apparently works?

[edgy hazel]

the thumb rubber is gone now 😦

[edgy hazel]

if you like cables yes

[dire igloo]

Darmoshark M3, VXE R1 Pro

[jagged snow]

I'm wearing through the top buttons on my g403

[winged valley]

I find it hilarious how so many people think cables actually make an impact

[jagged snow]

They're starting to get very polished

[dire igloo]

also, Pulsar X2 is super discounted rn

[winged valley]

Try having a proper desk setup

[jagged snow]

Wired peripherals are a must on desktop for me

[dire igloo]

my G502 had some of the worst cable drag I ever experienced on a mouse

[edgy hazel]

well... they do for me. At least only for the mouse. It's annoying.

[winged valley]

Cable drag definitely exists but if you route your cables right it's negligible

I often forget my mouse even has a cable

(I also use it with all the extra weights so its possible the cable just isn't heavy enough for me to notice)

[dire igloo]

same with my mouse - mainly cuz it's super soft and flexible

[edgy hazel]

"this is my own personal opinion and experience so it must apply to everyone"

[winged valley]

Yes

G502 best mouse

[dire igloo]

that's very likely it - I'm using ultralight now

[dire igloo]

heavy as shit, buttons give in in no time, mediocre sensor, mediocre software

[winged valley]

Yeah I run 2560DPI on it so low sense + heavy it ends up working out

[winged valley]

Use the HERO or HERO SE

Buttons are way better on that model

[dire igloo]

Hero sensor is mediocre

nowhere near PAW3395

[winged valley]

(I have owned 4 G502's)

I broke the scroll on the first one from gamer rage, buttons gave out on the second one, then got a hero, then got another hero and gave the old one to my work desk

[safe trench]

yea

[dire igloo]

I owned one, it failed, I noticed how impossible it is to service, decided to vote with my wallet and take my business elsewhere
got fucked by Asus software, super happy with my Darmoshark M3 now

[safe trench]

deathadder v2 pro was way better than the g502

[edgy hazel]

I'll either go with a 502X for my new mouse or go crazy with a madcatz one

[rustic panther]

I think I bought my G502 in 2015? It's worked perfectly ever since

[edgy hazel]

it's beautiful

it looks like it'll eat my fingers

[rustic panther]

I feel that the mouse wheel is maybe a bit gunked up or starting to give out, but that's the only thing

[edgy hazel]

this is their only good looking wireless one and I want it

[mental oriole]

Rip they no longer get produced.

[edgy hazel]

really???

NOOO

[mental oriole]

Or did they resurface

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-gif-24974026

[dire igloo]

just like a mad cat

[winged valley]

All this g502 slander makes me sad

[mental oriole]

Nvm, they seem to be alive still

However retailers are "sus" for delivery in sweden.

[edgy hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

[edgy hazel]

there are like 2 here. Amazon and another one (but I already bought from them once)

[mental oriole]

I used to have a RAT 7 back in the days or whatever

[edgy hazel]

yeah those were always sick

[mental oriole]

Or if it was the 4 idfk anymore

I do need a new mouse...

[safe trench]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198738993433542778/1280018878298066975/0FBF49A3-7A26-4C07-ADF0-293637F8E9AA-4-1.gif

[mental oriole]

Same, 2 here (but different retailerse), CDON and delenordic.
CDON is pure crap, and delenordic I have no idea about.

[mental oriole]

[gilded helm]

Why did my mouse come with a USB extender?

[edgy hazel]

so you can extend the USB

[gilded helm]

6ft / 2m cable it included isn't enough? For who? Honestly curious.

[edgy hazel]

couch

[gilded helm]

Huh. Okay, for people who stubbornly want wired over distance? That's crazy to me, but I guess enough people like it they threw it in the box.

[edgy hazel]

also free USB extender

for that one fucking raspi you have powering your 3d printer but you only have 1m micro usb and no extension cords left 😦

[gilded helm]

I've been on the fence before about ordering 3m / 10ft USB-C cables before, but I've never encountered a scenario where I'd need that. I'll throw it in my possibles bag regardless.

[edgy hazel]

you never need it until you need it

[gilded helm]

What you're saying is exactly the sort of weird scenario that I'd run into somewhere too. It hasn't happened yet. But the space cost on being prepared for it is small.

[edgy hazel]

it's that once in a lifetime issue and you'll love yourself for keeping that one usb extender you got for free with your mouse

#CableHoarding #Grindset

[gilded helm]

I use a toiletry hanger for mine. I found bags marketed for actual cable storage aren't as good. I like the zipper pockets on the toiletry bag instead.

Basically something like this.
https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Hanging-Toiletry-Travel-Bag/dp/B01LLLI8IW/

Mine has more mesh pockets though, and only one big plastic one at the bottom.

[pure karma]

and you roast my mouse 🤣

[edgy hazel]

Your mouse isn't as beautiful

And adjustable

The madcatz ones are contrary to their looks actually extremely comfortable, since you can adjust width and length plus it comes with different thumb/pinky rests you can swap out

[pure karma]

just like pirate software once said i need a mouse not a perfected transformer

the only thing im really interested in swapping would be my headset because it has run its time and its starting to pop and crackle every once in a while

but i have a feeling its cable wear because its very random when it happens its not at all consistent

[rustic panther]

Sounds like cable wear yeah

[gilded helm]

502X feeling great in my hand, so that's settled.

[pure karma]

nice to see youtube ended up adding a X to close the AD block detected popup letting you continue using it

[gilded helm]

Is Brilliant a legit operation? Someone seems to have signed up with my Email. So I went to the trouble of resetting the password, logging in, and permanently deleting the account.

[ripe ferry]

From what I’ve heard it’s basically paid khan academy

[gilded helm]

Well if someone was paying for it, they made the mistake of using an active email belonging to someone else to sign up for it and do coursework, and now it's deleted. Why would someone do that?

[twin dew]

Because some people are just idiots with emails.
I know a person who has somewhat common name, and gets monthly(?) registrations with his email from other people.

One or two others with the same name who keep using his email address.

I mean with [e-mail] type of address.

[soft bloom]

Is it even legal to have such small power consumption?

It doesn't even consider that enough to lower remaining time from max 30h displayed

[pure karma]

i hit the jackpot

i found a 64GB USB stick just laying around in some of my old stuff

might come in handy

[dire igloo]

Proceeds to get Rubberducky'd by past self

[pure karma]

its not even partitioned so ods are i either dident use it or i reset it expecting to use it for something like a recovery

[twin dew]

"Why did the monitors of my secondary computer go black?"
Oh, I hadn't used it for 5 hours so it turned them off 🤣

[pure karma]

why not just set it to nerver at that point

[charred pewter]

cause some hours off are still hours

[twin dew]

Mainly for automatic lock of the Windows account if I have been away for that long and didn't remember to manually lock.

[pure karma]

fair enough

i allways set it to nerver because i cant stand coming back from something and your device having turned off every time

[vivid forge]

Anyone here wanna reccomend a server hoster for a server when 1.0 comes out ?

i've used shockbytes had a few issues there, any other "better" ones?

[edgy hazel]

I host my minecraft servers usually myself, also I thought we were way beyond 1.0 at this point

[vivid forge]

huh? :P 1.0 is what comes out in a week no ?

[jagged snow]

No, came out years and years ago

(wrong channel)

[twin dew]

Factorio 1.0 was released 2020-08-14?
Minecraft 1.0 was released 2011-11-18?

[vivid forge]

im talking about satisfactory

[edgy hazel]

what's that?

[twin dew]

And for anything Satisfactory, the off-topic channels are the wrong place?

Like the channel topic says?

[vivid forge]

i just assumed serverhosting was a tech question im sorry

[twin dew]

And the place that might have something to say is probably #dedicated-servers

[vivid forge]

also a serverhoster can host any game no ? i was asking in general about a reccomendation for a serverhoster.

thanks

[winged valley]

Yourself

Grab a laptop with at least 4 physical cores, 8gb of ram, put it next to your router, and host it yourself

You will get better value out of doing that than paying monthly for a provider

[dire igloo]

rather pay monthly for my electricity bill (/hj)

[tough owl]

Is there a way to allow high refresh on battery saver on Android

[dire igloo]

Now migrate all of that to wireless

[twin dew]

No such thing in Shapez 1

Was more about the name of the achievement

[jagged snow]

You are the ultimate computer guy out of everyone here

I think I pick up information pretty well, but you put me to shame

[jagged snow]

Those two things don't really go together

[stray badger]

No, thats the point of battery saver

[dire igloo]

Is there a way to go 250kph in my Porsche while saving fuel?

[jagged snow]

if you're getting towed by a cybertruck

[dire igloo]

That can do 250kph while towing?

Oh right, the gas pedal slides off and locks in place, forgot about that

[jagged snow]

Was referencing their teaser video

It'll do at least 200 with a porche on a trailer though

[edgy hazel]

If the frame doesn't break off

[jagged snow]

Yeah 💀

[edgy hazel]

There was a video of a dude towing a f150 in a not so gentle way and the entire back frame of the cybertruck just broke off

[winged valley]

Cybertruck is such a silly car elon truly knows his fanbase

[tough owl]

I know 💀 that's my dilemma

[jagged snow]

What do you need hrr for?

[tough owl]

60hz is way too jarring but I like using this app to manage battery

/codeberg.org/s1m/savertuner

[winged valley]

60hz is standard refresh for all phones

You have to go out of your way to enable higher

Is it jarring because you're used to having it set higher?

[dire igloo]

modern AMOLED from what I know is 120Hz by default

at least on android

[winged valley]

I stand corrected then maybe

[soft bloom]

21% in 8.5h at 2W
this thing can be recharger just once a day

[jagged snow]

Depends on the phone
Mine is 90hz default

[stray badger]

120hz on s21 from 2021

I would hope its standard as of 3 years later

[jagged snow]

I see no need for it

Refresh rate isn't the biggest contributer to motion clarity, and 90hz is plenty for smoothness

[gilded helm]

I like 120, but I'd take 90hz maximum with really good dynamic refresh over a high maximum. Not sure how phones compare in this regard these days.

[maiden coyote]

more frames more better.

[jagged snow]

Motion clarity is what matters for mobile, retaining text readability while scrolling

[maiden coyote]

I guess factory does multithread some things.. starting to wish I had a more powerful cpu now

[jagged snow]

Satis is pretty heavily parralellized

[gilded helm]

Until autosave

[maiden coyote]

which is a lie, because it just happens to be spread out in that screen shot..

most of the time it's 98% on one thread, and moderate usage on the rest.

it does try, I'm just trying to keep it from hitting the swap file which i think is more of a proxmox issue than anything else.

[winged valley]

Do you not have a way to disable swap?

Or do you not want to/are unable to allocate enough ram for that?

[maiden coyote]

I could. I dropped it from 4 to 1 gb swap and upped the ram from 18 to 20.

these look neat https://www.amazon.com/SiliconDust-HDHomeRun-Flex-ATSC-Tuners/dp/B092KM482V

[tough owl]

all my devices are more than 60

120 at the minimum

[scarlet cave]

peak Internet

( I downloaded these 2.5GB in less than 30 seconds )

when Satisfactory 1.0 launches it will probably be ready to open in less than 5 minutes

https://tenor.com/view/tomfoolery-cat-gif-20855967

now it's on 8GB

[winged valley]

epic games launcher spotted

[edgy hazel]

This filament is so beautiful

But I can't wait to try this 50% copper one

You can apparently polish or oxidise it

[edgy hazel]

I wonder what it tastes like

No... I shan't

[mental oriole]

Strawberry flavour.

[edgy hazel]

It's too dark for strawberry

It must be cherry

[mental oriole]

Something for sure.

[mental oriole]

When will you guys learn there is a limit to what can be parallellized? If you have 4 tasks, and one of those take 250% longer one thread will obviously be working while the others are not working, hence it looks the other threads are idle. (Extreme example but can be applied anywhere)

[maiden coyote]

I mean sure, but I think htop shows a better percentage of per thread use versus something like top that gives an overview of what's doing what. as far as you guys, I'm well aware that games are primarily st workloads :p

[languid gulch]

raspberry

[edgy hazel]

Yes

I will print a pi case out of it now

Still have some wood filament for the base so it will look like a pie

[twin dew]

Made an idiot rage-quit: #1280631115396419605 message

You really seem to have little idea how driver level API interception used by various antivirus software etc. works...

RenderDoc seems to be doing the same for various graphics API calls.

Which is basically the only way you CAN do such capture without per program support coded in.

Yes, and that is separate from the issue.
That can be used to control RenderDoc from program being debugged.
But this has nothing to do with that, just the constanly loaded driver.
You would get the same behavior if you made manual copy of the driver, uninstalled RenderDoc, and then reinstalled the driver.

And if you manually uninstalled or disabled the driver, with RenderDoc installed, the issue would go away.

But RenderDoc wouldn't work.

Don't mix Windows base graphics APIs and the RenderDocs own control API.
This is the RenderDoc hooking the first type causing the crash, not the game calling the second ones.

When the game calls the first ones, but not the second ones.

Something in the graphics API calls the game makes is causing the RenderDoc driver to barf.
Like the graphics API calls caused old GPU drivers to barf.
U8 needed new drivers from both AMD and Nvidia to work properly without constant crashes.
So there is high likelihood that UE5 is outputting malformed, non-standards-compliant, graphics API calls, but everyone else has adapted their code to work, instead of making Epic fix the issue.

Which is why I said to make RenderDoc issue, so they can look into if the bug is on their side, or UE5/U8 side, and contact CSS/Epic to get that fixed.

Because the game is NOT calling RenderDoc, RenderDoc is intercepting calls to Windows the game makes.

(The person removed the post he made to this channel)

(And to the thread too)

[dire igloo]

Did they remove all messages in this server?

[twin dew]

New user, don't remember the name anymore.

"That was uncalled for" or something similar after the link containing post, and started again about how Satisfactory shouldn't be calling the APIs for RenderDoc control in release builds in here, trying to link the documentation for that API.

Etc.

[mental oriole]

Not a fan of renderdoc ngl. Because it loves to hook into stuff, easiest fix would have been just to uninstall renderdoc.

[twin dew]

That was the complaint, that he shouldn't have to uninstall renderdoc to run the game, and that the game should stop calling renderdoc in release builds.

When it is that global hooking via special driver that is ongoing at all times when renderdoc is installed that is causing a crash.

When that driver does something to the games output that crashes the graphics stack later.
That doesn't happen without the driver being loaded.

So RenderDoc issue, not game or system issue.

Could in theory be caused by nonstandard output by the game, that the RenderDoc driver isn't able to handle.
But the system without RenderDoc is able to handle the output.

And games that actually do output fully standards compliant DX12 are very few.

But as the GPU drivers aren't standards compliant either, it only matters that the game and driver can work together most of the time.

When the driver initialises it will hook into every entry point into the API such that when application uses the API it passes through the driver wrapper. In the case of D3D11 this is the D3D11CreateDevice and CreateDXGIFactory functions.
Not understanding that the "API" in this quote from the How RenderDoc works document doesn't mean the RenderDoc APIs, but the Windows Graphics APIs.

[soft bloom]

Tdd good or bad? What do you think?

[mental oriole]

Tdd as in test driven dev?

Depends.

Solo projects, nah.
Bigger complex products, sure. But know your limits. E.g 100% coverage is probably overkill.

[soft bloom]

I found personal projects the only place were i can have tdd, haha
And it works (especially since i started writing new entities with protocol -firsr aproach)

[dire igloo]

It's a tool you should have in your dev toolkit

Whether or not it's applicable depends on the project and situation at hand

You wouldn't use a hammer to tighten a screw

[rustic panther]

I like TDD, but it really depends on the team and the project

[soft bloom]

How do you deal with bugs (before release and after) without TDD?

[dire igloo]

You can still test without TDD

Also: bug reports

[mental oriole]

Logs + debugger and generic knowledge to look based on debugger / what logs say.

[jagged snow]

There are a shocking number of developers that have never written a unit test

I don't know if you could ever work in a professional environment that way, but I'm sure there are plenty of freelancers that do

[safe trench]

i got 32 gigs of ram now :D

the lords saved me

[rustic panther]

I've seen professional codebases that didn't have any unit tests

I can understand why because unit tests aren't shiny and therefore worthless to management, but still

Pushed for unit tests (and test-first devving) anyway because there was a fuckload of fancy mathematics involved

[dire igloo]

which is ironic because fixing an issue later on is far more costly than putting in tests to stop those from happening

didn't like Spotify or smth say "we want to make mistakes faster than anyone else"?

[twin dew]

And I was almost an idiot, because there was space, just by moving the assembler block one block left without touching anything else...

Fortunately I had thought to make a backup before starting.

Wrong channel...

[maiden coyote]

Baldur do you use Open media vault?

ahaha... I figured it out..

..sorta

[rustic panther]

Correct!

[dire igloo]

just write perfect code and there's no need for testing or expensive fixes.
and if your devs can't do that, fire your programmers and hire new ones

[rustic panther]

Yeah, "we have integration tests so there's no need for unit tests"

[maiden coyote]

I wish windows had a lspci command.

[rustic panther]

Because when you have a function that adds up two numbers, you input 2 and 2 and return 5 you can keep it very consistent with end to end integration tests, but not correct at all

And when your test input datasets are large by necessity it's gonna be very hard to just spot incorrectness

[winged valley]

6 days needs to go by faster

I want to play my funny factory game

[languid gulch]

the best part will be starting over. the worst part will be starting over

[gilded helm]

12900KF for $210 on Amazon 😶‍🌫️

[pure karma]

im surprised 12th gen hasent gone up in price any after all the chaos

because its the only "safe" generation for LGA 1700

[gilded helm]

And 8 P cores on LGA 1700 is what people are really after anyway.

[languid gulch]

"Brand New Ford Pinto! only $450!"

[soft bloom]

somehow i worked in 2 teams where goal was in automation tests for other ... stuff.
and despite being just a fellow programmer, you get assigned to QA and become hated just for having that QA title by everyone else 🙂

[languid gulch]

someone needs to come up with a new term that replaces QA

maybe LGIO

[soft bloom]

I can agree that sometimes it's faster to make prototype, let into the wild for a bit and then decide how to change/evolve/fix it with new knowledge.
But i never seen a manager who would be like "ok, this new feature demo was a success/failure, let's now make it in a proper way and cover with tests"

[soft bloom]

also, as recent case of crowdstrike shown - even decent quality tests can give false sense of reliability

[languid gulch]

one of my games' dev teams doesn't have an analogue to the live servers, so what they come up with is basically in beta when it hits live because nobody has actually tested it against what customers actually use

it's hilarious what can make it thru

[soft bloom]

and on the other hand, when TDD, as Primeagen said, you have to make interface beforehand, but that means that you already write tests for the interface that might not be very usable in practice when writing features/other code.
So this is kind of a place for me to sometimes tradeoff into integrating new code in small usecase, confirm its usable, and cover in tests for wider scope of usecases.

[soft bloom]

the opposite of exhastive testing...

[languid gulch]

you'll love their official excuse

in an mmo where they could merge all the servers because the population is so low that it couldn't cause lag, they don't want to make a live-analogue test server "because if they went through all that trouble, we might as well be putting it live for more customers"

[soft bloom]

how did we got convinced that it is impossible?
I mean, ofcourse, larger the project the furthest are we from practical 100% coverage (and even more so in terms of actual edge cases, loads etc)
But, i'v seen it being used as a reason to not write quality tests too many times

[soft bloom]

w t f

[languid gulch]

welcome to the world of WotC property

[soft bloom]

that's like "if we test shampoo on cats, we might as well take director's daughter as test subject"

[languid gulch]

oh there's a reason i don't pay into it 🤣

this is a company that forgot to pay for its SSL keys. twice. TO THE DAY.

recently they had an issue where they added in an "expansion" along with the ability to teleport to its main public area like you can with other expansions/locations.

but they may have forgotten that that means that you have to either make the UI panel longer, or add in a scroll bar, so people can, ya know, use it.

so after a week they undid it, then spent another 6 weeks screwing around until they made a decision. and their decision was.......longer panel. only now for some reason you can manually highlight the NPC's names & their text boxes, which screws up every NPC dialogue panel in the fucking game

and these people have the balls to ask up to $130 for an expansion

[soft bloom]

as history shows, most amounts of money go from idiots to idiots people who make poor decisions to other people who make poor decisions, haha

[winged valley]

why

[soft bloom]

omg

fire hazard: the photo

[dire igloo]

Can't even see the fuckin screen

[mental oriole]

[wooden kraken]

Anyone have any thoughts?

[twin dew]

That you have HW problem in your computer? What about it?

[rustic panther]

I think you need to run some memtest

[twin dew]

Disable XMP as first step and rerun the Windows Memory Diagnostic.

[wooden kraken]

I can't find out what the problem..

[twin dew]

That first pic is the lite version inbuilt into Windows.

So if the error continues without XMP, then the RAM will need replacing.

But first need to test it isn't just that the RAM is being run at too high settings.

[wooden kraken]

Bios?

[rustic panther]

Yes

[sage pier]

could the intel micro code problem be that or was that only vram?

[twin dew]

Yes. Set XMP/DOCP to not be on in BIOS, so that all RAM settings are at auto.
Or just clear CMOS.

[twin dew]

Wouldn't cause issues in the Windows Memory Tester in any likelyhood.

The VRAM thingie is that the GPU driver data gets corrupt input because of unstable CPU.
But the tester shouldn't run the CPU at speeds where the issues can happen.

But the first likelyhood is that the RAM you have just cannot run at the marketing spec (XMP/EXPO) in your computer.
Those settings are guaranteed for the RAM in golden sample system, not in buyers system.

[rustic panther]

I prefer a memory test that shows info beyond "something's wrong, talk to your oem uwu"

[twin dew]

The more in-depth results are in Event Viewer, but not needed at first.

Yes, MemTest86 is much better.
But also needs more knowledge and effort to use.

[rustic panther]

Yeah, I suppose, I just don't like windows' memtest because it's so opaque and therefore there's no real further steps you can take

[twin dew]

So just disabling XMP and then rerunning Windows Memory Tester gives good baseline to differentiate between physically faulty RAM, and if the current detection was just unstable XMP.

[rustic panther]

Fair

[wooden kraken]

Apparently xmp was never on..

[twin dew]

So almost certainly bad RAM stick that would need to be replaced / warranty RMAd.

[rustic panther]

Yeah, my guess'd also be either bad ram sticks or 4 ram sticks

[wooden kraken]

I've got 2 with 8 on each..

[twin dew]

4 sticks on all auto should just work in most cases, even today.

[rustic panther]

Yeah, probably, but I've had an issue where 4 sticks tested good in pairs, but failed all put together

That was with xmp on however

[twin dew]

XMP usually will not work.

With DDR5, with 4 sticks both Intel and AMD will run the RAM at 3600MT/s on auto.

[wooden kraken]

💸

[mental oriole]

dead memory

[twin dew]

No idea if the multicore test in Memtest86+ is usable at this point.
It generated failures from just bad code for long time.

MemTest86 and MemTest86+ are two completely different programs.
But probably dead RAM, but not sure with SMP testing with 86+.

[sand saddle]

I’m becoming an IT specialist in the military 🥳
Training starts in 2 months after my drivers course where I get a free C-category license

[jagged snow]

Hey, that's pretty sick

[mental oriole]

Cheers

[sand saddle]

Testmem5 with absolut preset is a good test

Base course is ending tomorrow, the main pain is over hopefully

[twin dew]

For RAM OC stability testing.
This is diagnosing if there are HW level RAM faults.

Which seem likely, but the MemTest86+ SMP mode was broken for 10+ years in meantime and I haven't checked if the new versions are actually functional or not.

[sand saddle]

I’d imagine if it faults, it’s also unstable

[twin dew]

Because MemTest86 has free version again, and 86+ was in limbo for long time.

[twin dew]

No, just code bugs in the multi-core mode.

[rustic panther]

I think we can discount software bugs causing 100% false positives here, since Windows' built-in memery tester also saw issues

[pure karma]

i love a random instant bluescreens with event viewer empty after

i tested stability but i guess i dident test it enough

[karmic socket]

hmmm, anyone willing to do a quick and dirty mic check with me ? apparently I'm not hearing other participants, despite sound working in general

[maiden coyote]

these any good? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084CJLNM4/ref=twister_B08KXCTVVJ looking for a raspi boot drive..

[languid gulch]

so who's excited to see starliner not be able to undock from the station tomorrow

[gilded helm]

Er, I don't know that's the right attitude. SpaceX having credible competitors would be good.

I totally get the satisfaction of watching bad corporate culture eat itself though.

[languid gulch]

oh i agree

but also i have 0 faith in anything boeing does

[safe trench]

real

[safe trench]

me

[languid gulch]

i'd be nicer about it but they don't deserve it

[safe trench]

dont be suprised if its hatch flies off

[languid gulch]

and if i were SpaceX i'd 100% send them a bill for the rescue

[safe trench]

i would too

they shouldnt be the one to pay for their loss

its not spacex's fault for them not making a good spacecraft

[languid gulch]

this starliner wasn't even "the final one", the next one would also need to have its own cert flight, which means this entire mission has been meaningless besides taking crew & a bit of cargo

if i were nasa i'd be seriously looking at suing boeing for fraud, lying about the readiness of their craft

[jagged snow]

That's not at all what's happening, since nasa's paying them anyways

[safe trench]

better yet

dont pay em

[jagged snow]

They're not sending a special mission to "rescue" them either, they're transitioning them to part of the crew 9 rotation

Which was a launch that nasa had already purchased and scheduled

[safe trench]

boeings stock is cosplaying its doors

[jagged snow]

Look at intel stock

[safe trench]

ik

[languid gulch]

that means they're bumping a mission

a crew & training as well

if they hadn't launched at all, that bump would not have happened

[jagged snow]

Just two people from a four person mission

But yes, it still costs nasa

[languid gulch]

still 2 less people

[jagged snow]

However, it's not like boeing hasn't suffered enough

[languid gulch]

i don't think they have

[jagged snow]

They're several billion in the hole on the starliner program since they're on a fixed price contract

They've spent about 3x what they're ever going to get paid, especially since it looks like nasa might not even purchase more than the inital three launches

[languid gulch]

who in a position of responsibility & significant financial power within boeing has been fired explicitly for their incompetence over this. if the answer is nobody, then they haven't learned anything

actually, i take that back

they've learned that they can get away with it again

and i'd send congressional investigators to dig thru every email at boeing & their suppliers, because somebody knew they weren't ready

i'll take a cover-up of incompetence over them being stupid in this

but i also don't want nasa to cancel their contract, i want boeing to back out of it

i want boeing to be the one to admit that they can't do it

all their shit-talking about SpaceX being some kind of underdog, only to get outcompeted by them at every turn. i want to see them admit that they lost the competition

or, they could invest in doing something right

[gilded helm]

I just wish instead of the cost plus contracts and everything to do with SLS, all the money instead went to literally anything else.

[safe trench]

forget sls

that stuffs never gonna happen

[languid gulch]

i don't mind it going to space R&D, i just don't like it being used on garbage

[safe trench]

with all the launch tower costs and devoplement?

[gilded helm]

Right, I'm saying SLS should have been forgotten long ago.

[languid gulch]

if the launch tower was going to be something guaranteed to be used for public & private stuff for the next 50 years, i could understand the cost

but right now it's like 4 missions

[safe trench]

use unfair human rights 🗿

[languid gulch]

wut

[gilded helm]

Lawmakers boast about SLS providing jobs in all 50 States, but I would just as soon have them spend that money on paying those people to play DDO all day for Cuyar's amusement.

[languid gulch]

🤣

i mean, at least it'd fund an engine replacement

[safe trench]

real

[gilded helm]

Or maybe have them start their own Star Citizen or EVE group or something. Basically, the whole SLS industry just forms some giant faction in some MMO.

[safe trench]

nah nah

[languid gulch]

maybe KSP2

[safe trench]

it can host jobs in all 50 states

[languid gulch]

a functional one

[safe trench]

just dont pay em!

infinite money glitch dropped!

turn the launch tower an island in the ocean

since theres no minniumummumius wage there

[languid gulch]

i wonder how many DCFCs for parking lots that'd fund

apartments, offices, restaurants, hotels

[gilded helm]

Nuclear power! Modern nuclear power!

[languid gulch]

with my luck someone in that crowd would know exactly how to solve certain issues with the game

and they still wouldn't lift a finger to actually do it

[gilded helm]

Or they would just give you a choice of playing the legacy server with no updates forever, or the new one that works.

[safe trench]

forget dcfc parking lots, we got concrete

[languid gulch]

fun fact that i got out of one of the devs: they don't keep old versions of the game

once an update is out, they basically delete everything previous

[soft bloom]

why is even touching topic of cache (without even actually impelmenting cache itself, let alone the invalidation) can be so hard?

Does it make sense to replace cache fully operating by "we take object, make a hash by its properties, save it's data as a bunch of files in a folder named by the hash" with SQLite3 in a form of "we take object, make a hash by its properties, store metadata in in sqlite and the binary data in a file/folder named by the hash" ? (note: single object can take up to 30MB with a decent size metdata - it's a http request-response cache)

[gilded helm]

Expect gobs of Intel rumor type stories in the next months as people take early retirements.

A retiring employee just told me a few stories about why he really likes Pat, and why other people do. There's a lot of hope in the company that Pat survives the missteps that have happened of late.

[languid gulch]

it's just kinda weird that he's been at intel for both of its MAJOR screwups

[twin dew]

Probably, but what about Samsung Pro Endurance in price comparison?
As that has been the spec endurance leader and also has great random read and write performance, even when it doesn't have official A1 or A2 rating.

[twin dew]

Fixed price with milestones.
Boeing isn't getting paid anything for the flight unless NASA accepts that it completed all requirements for the certification flight and the contract can move to actual crew flights.

Ah, that was next, but that line seemed weird.

[maiden coyote]

$2 more for 64GB card

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09W9XYQCQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1 Don't really need the space.. but if it has better wear leveling then that's a win

I'm not going to run anything other than octopi.. and a jmri server, both of which are servers of sorts that'll be doing mostly log writes.

[twin dew]

Those Samsung Pro Endurance cards fullfill the A1 spec in testing and have been giving better performance in testing than many officially A2 cards.

[maiden coyote]

octopi does have writes when you upload files. but you get the idea.. not dashcam/camera recording use.

I'm just after a long service life. I've already dealt with a failing boot drive on one of my servers... it's been awhile, but if you remember the proxmox memory address errors I had posted.

[twin dew]

Yeah, I know.
I got Pro Endurance 64GBs in my Pis.
But trying to do current comparison on the write endurance ratings.

[maiden coyote]

that whole month long ordeal was a because of a failing boot drive lol

[twin dew]

Ah, 15k hours on SanDisk 32GB, with Full-HD video without spec on bitrate.
And 35k hours on Samsung 64G, with Full-HD video with 3.25MB/s / 26Mbit/s constant writes.

17.5k for the Samsung 32GB.

[maiden coyote]

so 30k on the sandisk ( no spec ) and 35k on the samsung, which I'm not sure I believe in their testing/rating.. so about equal with the sandisk being more expensive/GB

[twin dew]

Yeah, 30k hours on the 64GB Sandisk.
But as they don't specify the bitrate, it can be much lower.
10Mbit/s is the normal max for full-hd recording on many of the cameras the cards are meant for etc.

So not specifying the actual write speed gives lot of leeway to overstate the endurance in hours.

So I trust the Samsung rating much more than the SanDisk rating.

In 2019 the SanDisk packaging has specified that Full-HD is that same bitrate.

[maiden coyote]

but that samsung card hasn't been around for 35k hours so their testing is just writing one cell to death and calculating a rating on it, if even that. That's kind of nitpicking and it becomes a game of chance

[twin dew]

Higher rate writing works the same.

And it can be somewhat calculated by knowing the flash and the controller.

And same for the SanDisk?

[maiden coyote]

that's what I'm curious about, and there's little to no idea on either of them as far as that that I could find.

I guess I'll find out if the pi still runs when it's taken out of service in however many years. I'm leaning more towards the samsung because at least in theory larger card = less utlization = longer life.

[twin dew]

That Samsung Pro Endurance line has been in existence for long time already, and they raised the endurance ratings between 2018 and 2022.
My 64GB old Pro Endurance card in my dashcam since 2018 is still kicking fine, no idea about the total amount of writes.

And they test well for App-type rating too, even when they don't have one, so no issues with Pi usage from bad random read and write performance caused stalls.

The old SanDisk High Endurance cards have much lower endurance ratings and that Max Endurance lineup that almost matches the Samsung Pro Endurances in that is pretty new.

[maiden coyote]

samdung it is then.. just don't buy their tv's

[twin dew]

No idea about the random read and write performance for SanDisk Max Endurance.

[twin dew]

Samsung FLASH products are solid if there aren't firmware bugs that have caused issues with some SSDs until fixed.

[maiden coyote]

toms hardware said they were pretty good in pi's.. the cheapest silicon power card was the fastest.

[edgy hazel]

Got this one in my octoprint server

Been pretty goode

[maiden coyote]

https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/raspberry-pi-microsd-cards

[twin dew]

Yeah, great until the log writes kill the card.

[maiden coyote]

how long has it been in service for?

actually toms says the sandisk is the fastest

[edgy hazel]

Since like April?

[twin dew]

Would probably happen between 1-2 years of service, possibly in as short as 6 months of runtime.

[maiden coyote]

with samsung is better for endurance.

[edgy hazel]

Oh no then I'll go bankrupt

[maiden coyote]

I think my current octopi server has been in service since.. 2018 or so.. I'm upgrading it from buster to bullseye

[twin dew]

No SanDisk Max Endurance in that testing.
Samsung Pro Endurance is and is giving respectable performance like I said, not chart topping but good enough.

[maiden coyote]

I want to play the long game >.>

[twin dew]

Yeah, depends if you have backups or have to reinstall etc.
If you just make image of the finished card, and then just deploy that on the next one, not much harm.

[maiden coyote]

it's been on and off useage, but it has a samsung 32G card.. the tip is orange, it might be an endurance one

[edgy hazel]

I'm gonna set it up on a USB stick anyways soon.

[twin dew]

But I rather paid extra to not need to do that from time to time.

[maiden coyote]

I don't mind paying more.. I'd like the storage to last the service life of the machine.

[edgy hazel]

I just got my Pi4 for my printer yesterday so I can actually boot from USB

Before I used a pi2

[maiden coyote]

I ran containers from pimox off of a usb.. it was awful

[edgy hazel]

Thank god my printer doesn't do that

[maiden coyote]

it was usb 2.0 but oh boy IOwait just stayed pegged at 100%

sometimes you've just got to try things.

[twin dew]

For some reason Toms Hardware sorted this chart by random write speed, but for random reads the Samsung Pro Endurance is second:

[edgy hazel]

I'm running my unifi server on a pi5 from a USB stick and its running pretty good

[twin dew]

After Samsung EVO Plus.

[maiden coyote]

you should look into getting a n100 or something similar.. something like this https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-N100M-Micro-ATX-Motherboards plus 16G of ddr5 spanks the pi5 silly with what you can run on it.

[edgy hazel]

Yeah but it also needs more power

[maiden coyote]

not really.

15W or so.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/231803/intel-processor-n100-6m-cache-up-to-3-40-ghz.html

6W

[twin dew]

Idle is significantly higher IIRC.

The total platform idle, not just CPU.

[maiden coyote]

mine draws about 20W total as reported by the ups.

that's not really at idle either.

mostly idle but still doing stuff

[twin dew]

And I was meaning that the power draw of any Atom box is going to be significantly higher than a Pi:s, even at idle.
Might get closer at full-load with the newer Pis, or not.

[maiden coyote]

not to get sidetracked from the pi talk, from what I understand the pi5 is quite powerful just as far as running services goes I would pick the n100 over it.

[twin dew]

Depends on what is needed.

[maiden coyote]

that's true, mines running a terraria server, pi hole, wireguard server, home assistant, serveral docker containers, wikijs, and nginx lol

[twin dew]

That N100 gives more performance if needed, but if that is needed or not depends.

For significantly larger space requirements, and higher power usage.

So goes into performance needs vs. space etc.

[maiden coyote]

and much more flexibility. depends on needs/wants for sure. I wouldn't use a n100 for octoprint xD

[languid gulch]

so from what i've been reading all this time, intel 12th gen is basically unaffected by any of the bullshit, right

[twin dew]

Yes.

[languid gulch]

just a sanity check 🤣

[twin dew]

You could use the VID request capping to set that to 1.50-1.55V if you wanted to be safe even on 12th gen.

[languid gulch]

i'm getting antsy about getting a family member a built system to replace an aging laptop

might donate my 5600X platform & upgrade

12900KF is $250 rn 🤣

[twin dew]

IA VR Voltage limit on Asus and Gigabyte

MSI has decided to not expose that. No idea about ASRock.

As in that is Intel provided functionality, that MSI just has declined to explose to user.

Even after this shitstorm hit.

[gilded helm]

Alder Lake is a good buy at the right price, 12900KF for $210 the other day was great.

[twin dew]

Intel cancelled their 20A node and products that were supposed to be produced on that will just be done by TSMC instead.
And concentrating on 18A instead.

[rustic panther]

Why not get a 5800x3D?

[twin dew]

Because there is another person that needs basic computer now.

So moving his computer to that person and getting new gaming grade computer to replace it has plus sides vs. buying just that basic grade new computer.

[rustic panther]

Ah, misread that

[dire igloo]

X3D for factory games tho

also why did nobody tell me that 7600X3D was a thing?

[midnight osprey]

Hey guys! That imagine format, is it pronounced jif or gif?

[twin dew]

Just came and is very limited run.

[edgy hazel]

I pronounce my imagine format as a "think"

[twin dew]

Thought was that it would be Microcenter only again, but now it is MindFactory only for Germany, no idea if other countries have access.

[midnight osprey]

I think gif

I totally can’t remember

[edgy hazel]

mindfactory mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/ger-world-cup-germany-german-fans-gif-12072477

[dire igloo]

www.heise.de/en/news/AMD-s-Ryzen-5-7600X3D-comes-to-Germany-9858707.html

[edgy hazel]

I might need to switch to prusa slicer instead of cura. It got a lot of nice features but also seems to be very cluttered

[tough owl]

www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/08/26/amazon-ai-alexa-launch-subscription-election/

Wooooohooooooooo

[dire igloo]

oh no

nononononononono

please learn from Cambridge Analytica, PLEASE

[tough owl]

I'm slowly trying to get my girlfriend to not rely on Google

Its so hard you don't even understand

[jagged snow]

Oh I've gone through the same thing so many times

She keeps complaining about targeted advertising from Gboard, but won't switch

[tough owl]

I think I'm gonna start with password manager and different Keyboard

FUTO keyboard is so good, minus gifs but eh who needs them

[jagged snow]

I'm fighting the passwords in the notes app thing still

[tough owl]

🫡

Good luck with that one

at least mine uses Google passwords manager 🤣

[pure karma]

sometimes id rather have a good product than a good company behind it

[tough owl]

And that's what is wrong with society today

[maiden coyote]

ltt did some degoogling videos.. part 2 got taken down lol

[dire igloo]

googledebunkers

[maiden coyote]

I guess I'm stuck on 5.10

I upgraded from buster to bullseye and it completely broke octoprint.. had to reinstall it

[twin dew]

Raspibian and/or Raspberry Pi OS are not made to be dist-upgradable.

[maiden coyote]

well, it's linux under the hood.. so it's possible lol

[twin dew]

Even when the base Debian is.
But the Raspberry Pi folk don't bother with supporting it with their custom packages.

[maiden coyote]

I think the dist-upgrade wiped out a bunch of python packages, and erased some of the venv stuff octoprint was setup in

[twin dew]

Remember that the current version is Bookworm (Debian 12).

[maiden coyote]

I'd like to move the kernel to 6.1

[twin dew]

So even that Bullseye is major version out of date and from year old.

Still supported, but not for long.

[maiden coyote]

Yeah, but if I can't move the kernel to 6.1 then I'm not going to bother upgrading it to 12.

Linux raspberrypi 5.10.103+ #1529 Tue Mar 8 12:19:18 GMT 2022 armv6l GNU/Linux

[twin dew]

Raspberry Pi 12 is on 6.6 IIRC.
Or was it 6.9?

[maiden coyote]

I guess 2 years old is okay..

[twin dew]

Need to manually change the kernel version tree package.

Because Pi uses fixed major version ones by default.

[maiden coyote]

Yeah. I had to do it with ubuntu for an intel gpu.. I've slept since then

[twin dew]

While base Debian just specifies kernel arch by default.

But the base answer from Raspberry Pi developers on this kind of stuff on their forum was that dist-upgrade isn't supported, just reinstall each time...
Which is idiotic IMHO.

[maiden coyote]

it is. makes me with I had just used debian arm or something for a distro rather than raspbian

[twin dew]

And they have multiple cases of that kind of package name changes between major versions that don't get auto-changed.

[twin dew]

Yeah, I used Debian Raspberry Pi Bookworm images, and then added couple of specific packages from Raspberry Pi repos as addons on the Pi4, and just base Debian Raspberry Pi for the Pi1.

raspi.debian.net/

But basically all the Pi config utilities etc. are missing from those, as they are Raspberry Pi OS only.

Most of the stuff is possible to do other ways too, but no-one talks about those and just tells to use Raspi-Config etc.

[maiden coyote]

raspi-config makes it easy.. and pi being somewhat unique I can see how that would be an issue if you were trying to enable pcie on the cm4.

well, I guess this system isn't as old as I thought sudo tune2fs -l /dev/mmcblk0p2 tune2fs 1.46.2 (28-Feb-2021) Filesystem volume name: rootfs Last mounted on: / Filesystem UUID: 87b585d1-84c3-486a-8f3d-77cf16f84f30 Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file dir_nlink extra_isize Filesystem flags: unsigned_directory_hash Default mount options: user_xattr acl Filesystem state: clean Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 1918752 Block count: 7748608 Reserved block count: 318497 Free blocks: 5915918 Free inodes: 1766113 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size: 4096 Reserved GDT blocks: 219 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 8096 Inode blocks per group: 506 Flex block group size: 16 Filesystem created: Fri May 7 10:06:09 2021 Last mount time: Fri Sep 6 11:23:44 2024 Last write time: Sat Aug 31 00:55:59 2024 Mount count: 64 Maximum mount count: -1 Last checked: Fri May 7 10:06:09 2021 Check interval: 0 (<none>) Lifetime writes: 31 GB

2021

[twin dew]

Yeah, but raspi-config etc. are not in all the OS options.
And is just thing that makes things easier, so what the specific options do in actuality would be nice to be documented somewhere so the same changes could easily be manually done.

Because it isn't doing anything special, just UI to select things.

[maiden coyote]

it's kind of the case of making shit harder to use by making it easier to use ig

[twin dew]

But basically the Raspberry Pi folk don't care about anyone not using their own distro.

[maiden coyote]

need something specific and unique to a pi? use our software or get fked.

[twin dew]

Which does some idiotic stuff to the base Debian.

So I went with the base Debian Arm with ready made images.
But for the Pi4 in the end I had to install the Raspberry Pi 4 kernel etc. to get video decode hardware acceleration.

Which isn't supported by upstream kernels and so not supported by Debian.

[maiden coyote]

some of that might have to do with restrictions imposed by qualcomm rather than raspberry

[twin dew]

Basically.
Raspberry Pi OS folk have to keep patchset, some of which is sent upstream but not accepted.

But it was annoying, because they have split stuff differently in packages compared to base Debian kernel & firmware stuff, same package names but some specific files were in different package.

Which made it impossible to use the base Debian files in combination with the Pi Kernel.

[tough owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VjYFdHMC3A

Here we go

[twin dew]

So for others: About EKWB

[languid gulch]

wow, is this the first time GN's broken an hour?

[tough owl]

I don't think so

[gilded helm]

Hopefully the audio doesn't sound sped up. It's already long and in need of breaks for most people. Go all in and give good delivery on the audio. Though I'm not going to watch it regardless.

[tough owl]

Its too long for me to watch

[gilded helm]

Mostly I'm just not interested in the subject either way.

So apparently I inadvertently have Tuesday off. In addition to Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Fun times.

[tough owl]

Hopefully it's PTO

[languid gulch]

i wanna hear all the dirt 🤣

[gilded helm]

Nope, but meh.

[languid gulch]

hopefully they keep track of the players to see where the violators escape to

[gilded helm]

I got plenty of dirt out of Intel employees last night.

Honestly, it makes me inclined to believe pretty much anything people like MLID say about the internal history of Intel.

[tough owl]

What's the tldr on that

[gilded helm]

Honestly, lots of things. And tell people will pretty much talk openly about anything that's 5+ years old. The Beast Lake video from MLID has plenty of kernels of truth to it, though no one I talked to really knew details. Mostly in that conversation I tried to impress upon them that gamers definitely still need more CPU performance. Especially gamers who play games like Satisfactory, or anything else where the amount of pathfinding, physics, and other calculations is basically unlimited. Unfortunately, gamers are a fart when it comes to Intel's revenue.

Employees would definitely go to war for Pat if it feels like he's in trouble.

10nm was actually one of the things that someone dished on last night. Cannon lake went nowhere because they tried to use the 14nm tools to make 10nm with Cannon lake. The China only Cannon lake part was basically only released as a preventative measure against lawsuits.

Krzanich was hated as a CEO, and a lot of the internal politicking problems you hear about that era are most likely true. Bob Swan wasn't necessarily hated, but he was a finance guy who didn't know shit about technology and was unfit to run the company. One of the people I talked to was head of an engineering team, and another in fabs. Both of their faces immediately lit up when I brought up Murthy. Apparently he was one of the worst (to them).

As for why any one of them would talk? Intel employees don't operate like military intelligence it turns out. They're normal people who will bitch about their jobs and bosses like anyone else. Last night I just decided to dig into them a little.

[edgy hazel]

Oh military talks. Just gotta do it in a bar

[gilded helm]

Real DJ moment, testing my own speakers.

[pure karma]

im having a great laugh at this OCCT run

just pure proof that no stability testing was done in its rawest form

[gilded helm]

Checks out, that's where I got Intel people talking.

[pure karma]

il deal with your false advertising, software that dosent even support your own products, oboard speakers and microphone that are permenantly disabled... and so on but shipping unstested faulty hardware is where i draw the line

[languid gulch]

just throw a satellite dish on the roof, it'll be fine

www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2024/09/03/how-navy-chiefs-conspired-to-get-themselves-illegal-warship-wi-fi/

(context)

[edgy hazel]

[edgy hazel]

jesus I hate how extreme the difference of temp is on nozzle sizes. 260°C on 0.6mm prints like trash, 0.4 and it's smooth like butter

now I need to learn how to compile my own firmware so I can go over 260 ;-;

[languid gulch]

what's better is using an air line that's 13mm & not 1/2"

i had one go flying off an air compressor

because 13mm is NOT 12.7

[jagged snow]

What heater do you have in your hotend?

[edgy hazel]

stock heater of the v2 neo

[wanton orchid]

can someday manufacturer stop saying they do not sell at msrp

[jagged snow]

What print speeds are you pushing?

[wanton orchid]

it's getting so much on my nerves

[edgy hazel]

hotend itself is the spider v3

[edgy hazel]

currently fairly slow actually

[jagged snow]

What is fairly slow? 100 mm/s?

[edgy hazel]

printing carbon fiber petg rn

[jagged snow]

Or 30

That's a big range

[edgy hazel]

currently at 35mm/s

[jagged snow]

Oh weird, you shouldn't need to push much higher than 240 for that

[edgy hazel]

oh no I need to. This filament wants heat like a mf apparently

it's chopped cf

[jagged snow]

Still

[edgy hazel]

my bed alone is at 90 otherwise it doesn't want to stick to my cf-optic bed (which is fairly difficult to print on anyways)

[jagged snow]

That's not too surprising

[edgy hazel]

it's also a hardened steel nozzle so I need more heat since it doesn't transfer as well as brass does

[thorny goblet]

Hello everyone! Can you share with me, your graphic prefference or gama balance? I play on the laptop rtx 3060, 16gb, ryzen 7 5600. My graphic pref is low. But after 1-2 hours in game, my eyes are leaking. Instead in Whicher 3 or Titanfall 2 everything ok even after 6 hour playing. Who have the same or near problem?

[mortal pike]

as I said in the other channel I play on ultra with similar hardware but on PC and get fine frames, so you can probably handle at least medium

[edgy hazel]

#1038092680493801533

[thorny goblet]

Thanks)

[edgy hazel]

SHUT UP OCTOPRINT

[rare goblet]

The clippy of 3d printing

[maiden coyote]

Yeah.. I've got that feature on mine too since I had to reinstall it... what a bunch of bullshit

Someone needs to fork em. dumbass achievements but no fucking dark mode.

[gilded helm]

What's the use case for wanting to switch scroll wheel modes on the G502 on the fly? So far that's my only complaint about the mouse, is that's basically a dead button for me, as it can't be reprogrammed. I knew that going in, so meh.

[safe trench]

windows 11:

oh look they are talking about their dark mode now i have to run!

[languid gulch]

goddamn i thought i lost my monitor for a minute

cleaned off the screen for the first time in way too long, and it wouldn't turn back on

i had moved it around to get the right angle vs the overhead light to see all the little dirty spots

turns out i had moved it just enough to yank the power cord out

scared the crap outta me

[twin dew]

Or just find the location in the firmware binary file where that limit is and hex edit it.

[weak ivy]

Just another reason to use klipper instead 😄

[languid gulch]

ngl i wouldn't mind if logitech licensed out their infiniscroll wheel lock thingy to other mouse makers

that was the one thing on a logitech mouse that i never had any issue with

there is but i like the freewheel feeling when i want it

it's like getting used to something like the lights vs wipers on different sticks in japanese cars. it just makes sense & getting into another car definitely feels like it's missing something important

[twin dew]

Standard anywhere not US again?

[languid gulch]

basically

[twin dew]

Never seen a car in Europe that didn't have separate stalks for those...

[languid gulch]

also a 3rd stick for cruise control just felt right

[twin dew]

Including Fords etc.

[languid gulch]

ford still has to comply with euro standards

[twin dew]

Yeah, but meant that nominally US manufacturers having dual-stalk controls outside of US.

[languid gulch]

true

[twin dew]

So they could very trivially use that part in US production too.

[languid gulch]

but my info is also with older cars, from what i can tell there's no rules anymore with a lot of it

depends

[tawdry aurora]

Pretty good, but on the G-series mice the buttons can get broken quite quickly

[languid gulch]

sometimes logitech uses decent quality switches

[twin dew]

So basically mostly good but often crap switches.
So if you are able to do switch replacements, no problems.
If you cannot, expect to need to constantly replace the mice.

As in change once to a long-life switch after the originals start to crap out.

[tawdry aurora]

BAsically mod a 3 year old mice to a never dieing mice

still have to change the switches in my G501

[twin dew]

Less than 1 year in cases.

[languid gulch]

i just switched over to redragon, cuz if the switches are gonna last a year, i might as well get something with everything on it for half the price

[twin dew]

Cases of people having time to get multiple RMA replacements in warranty period for switches going bad.

[tawdry aurora]

That's warranty terrotory

[languid gulch]

and logitech likes to put that stupid grippy shit in places where it'll fall apart or get super slimy

[twin dew]

Those can fortunately be removed in few hours when starting to go bad to get just normal plastic surface.

Some scraping and then final isopropanol cleanup for the plastic parts when disassembled.

Razer has always used shitty cheap switches for the side buttons, even when they did use Omron for the mains.

Often exact same form factor, but chepest they could find for the sides, mid-life Omrons for the mains.

And later went to shit switches for the mains too, or lowest rated Omrons.

[languid gulch]

i wish they were more easily disassemblable

just to clean them out

perfect mouse:
-logitech scroll wheel
-steelseries switches
-redragon price

i consider longevity to be near the top when it comes to peripherals

the worst thing that mouse makers do is stick the case screws under the pads

[dire igloo]

I know that Keychron M6 ticks the Logitech scroll wheel

49€ idk if that counts as redragon price

[languid gulch]

my M913 loves to get buildup on the edges of the side buttons

think i paid $35usd for it

[median bronze]

still rocking an old microsoft mouse, yet to have the side buttons fail

[languid gulch]

i got addicted to the Logitech G602/604 6x side buttons, & now having a bunch of side buttons is just too nice to miss out on

yea up to 12 now too 🤣

idk why i was worried about accidentally clicking them

[dire igloo]

isn't it a popout window that you can maximize?

when I open history, there's a button at the bottom "manage history" which does exactly that

(well, it's "Chronik verwalten" in German, so I just eyeballed the translation)

[languid gulch]

crap. now i want a mouse with touchpad left/right clicks 🤣

[dire igloo]

right at the very bottom

what is it with chrome and everything needing to be a tab

[languid gulch]

oooooooh. how about not a scroll wheel in the middle, but a touchpad there that will let you scroll, but also has some left/right as a joystick

[languid gulch]

it got eaten by a xenomorph

[median bronze]

I'm at 91 at the moment, Its lower than normal for me

[dire igloo]

search? taking away adblock?

oh wait, you're talking about Chrome

yeah, using Chrome is just big skill issue

[twin dew]

Starliner is back, but:

• one of the 12 RCS on starliner (not sm) didn't fire at all
• sounds to me like the navigation system is tripple redundant, string 3 (SIGI 3) failed of after the plasma was left, string 2 had also "hickups"

And the two planned Boeing representatives skipped the after landing press conference at last moment.

[twin dew]

And to the yesterdays high write endurance SD card conversation, that dashcam of mine is recording at about 36Mbit/s total from the dual cameras when the car is on.

As that 64GB card can only hold about 4 hours of video.

[stray badger]

My scroll wheel tilts to scroll horizontally

[twin dew]

So yeah, one capsule RCS thruster not working at all is confirmed and that the navigation system fucked up during the plasma blackout and some parts had to manually be reset after that ended have been confirmed...

So in how many ways can Boeing keep making the situation worse?

And if you only have 3 in voting array, if one is fucked you just lost all redundancy already.
As you cannot determine anymore between the two if they differ.

IIRC SpaceX uses four dual-units.
Which autoreset the unit if the two subunits in same unit disagree.

So four units voting (so one can be lost and still have redundancy), and then unit-level sanity checking and autoresetting etc. if the unit itself thinks it is fucked somehow, which they can do as if one unit is resetting, they still have three units voting.

[dire igloo]

more whistleblowers disappearing

[jagged snow]

We're at two already, right?

[tough owl]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/22045487931799-Members-List-Recent-Activity-FAQ this is the most annoying thing ive seen let me turn it off

no one wants to move to better things

[languid gulch]

discord has the popular name brand at the moment, and haven't really "done anything" to ruin the name yet. once that kind of thing happens, we'll start to see movement

[dire igloo]

What alternatives are there?

[languid gulch]

skype was one of the big ones before discord, but its name kinda got ruined when microsoft bought them out

and i remember ventrilo as the "gamer one"

but i wouldn't be surprised if a completely new one, or one that's around but is little, starts to get more popular when discord starts to become unpalatable

i suspect that it'll be difficult to break into this area now tho, since now people will be demanding more things from the start like encryption & bot prevention

[dire igloo]

Skype is EOL, replaced by Teams

Which doesn't have the social network public server aspect of Discord

TS kinda has that but its UI is horribly clunky and the chatting capabilities are less than bare minimum

[tough owl]

theres guilded but roblox owns that

[edgy hazel]

sooo...

I think I found out how to improve cf-petg printing quality dramatically

it's one of those "water expands when it gets colder" bullshit things. I had to go faster

[jagged snow]

Oh very interesting

[edgy hazel]

my guess is, you need to constantly push an amount of material through the nozzle otherwise you get those annoying mini-clogs I kept getting

[dire igloo]

gotta go fast

[edgy hazel]

That's what I get for using chopped fibers instead of ground

[twin dew]

And for that SpaceX Falcon 9 landing failure, the FAA grounding lasted grand total of 15 days 😆

Hadn't noticed before.

[languid gulch]

idk why it got grounded in the first place, it didn't happen during ascent

[twin dew]

Without FAA knowing the cause, they had to go in the direction of safety.
Until SpaceX proved that the issue wasn't something that could endanger the public (like for example engine underperformance could).

[languid gulch]

i think sending nasa a letter that just says
SpaceX: 345 landings
Everyone else, ever: 0
should be enough

[twin dew]

FAA, not NASA

[languid gulch]

a barge in the ocean is a weird fuckin jurisdiction for the FAA

[twin dew]

And no, it isn't.
Because the problem wasn't losing booster on landing.
It was if the cause was something that could affect going up too.

[languid gulch]

ah

that makes sense

[twin dew]

FAA has jurisdiction for any US company doing space stuff.

[languid gulch]

also makes it pretty clear that it wasn't one of the engines that was the problem if they cleared it up that fast

the slo mo that scott manley showed of that right rear leg made it pretty clear that was the problem

[twin dew]

One satellite company tried to go around that and launched on Indian rocket without FAA license for the satellites and got hit pretty hard for that.

US based company.

[languid gulch]

oh yea that'll drop a department sized hammer on ya

[karmic socket]

lul?

[rustic panther]

TBH I don't mind people who like spacex for what they do, since what they do is AFAIK pretty decent work in making rocket launches cheaper, IIRC it's the only Musk company that hasn't been touched much by his sheer pants-on-head idiocy

[jagged snow]

In a lot of ways it has, but in a lot of ways it's served spacex well

He's also had a really really good team of competent people around him at spacex

[modest isle]

now if he would just make a tiny tesla that i could afford

i would totally be in the cult of musk then

[maiden coyote]

Ohboy alpine is very different from debian.. now how the hell do I make a proxy server with it lol

[wanton orchid]

you would probably have the 3rd gear behind monthly pay wall

[maiden coyote]

For sure

It used to be there's an app for that.. now there's a subscription for that

[gilded helm]

And of course, companies will claim that customers definitely wanted that subscription.

[languid gulch]

delete that, don't give them any ideas

[twin dew]

There are no Teslas with 3rd gear anyways?
And not sure if any of the current production even has 2 gears.
All the later ones are fixed reduction gearing "direct" drive.

Some of the competing EVs use 2-ratio gearboxes to get better performance at very high speeds.

[dire igloo]

I'm fairly certain there are at least two gears somewhere in that car.
EVs may not need a big transmission block but I'm fairly certain even they can't run entirely without gears

[sullen sinew]

The first tesla's had 2 gears the one's today has 0 gears with direct drive motors and tranmission.

[dire igloo]

Not a single gear in the entire car?

[sullen sinew]

Are you taking about hte piece of metal Cog/Gear or a transmission?

[twin dew]

Single fixed gear ratio reduction gear per motor.

[dire igloo]

First one

[twin dew]

So then putting the third gear behind paywall would be same as putting "the car is able to move" behind paywall.

Vs. limiting max speed via putting transmissions higher "gears" behind paywall.

[dire igloo]

⚙️

[sullen sinew]

Yeah it will no doubt have a cog somewhere.

[twin dew]

One of cybertrucks drive unit reduction gears.
Front one that is shared for both front wheels, so also contains differential

[dire igloo]

See? More than two gears

[languid gulch]

lol 🤣

i was more thinking of the weird magnetic phase stuff that tesla figured out

[twin dew]

AFAIK Tesla (the car company) hasn't done anything revolutionary in electric motors, inverters or reduction gears.
Just incremental improvements in combining existing stuff into more integrated wholes.

[twin dew]

So unless you are referring to the person, no idea what you are referring to.

[edgy hazel]

Those are some ball bearings

(Insert inappropriate joke about musk fans riding his balls)

[tribal kraken]

45kW electric drive of my desing 😄 Will have 3 "virtual" gears from 400V frequency converters. 70:1 reduction in the hub

[twin dew]

Why not just normal continous control everyone does?

If DC fed and not AC fed.

As variable frequency from DC to AC conversion is just programming compared to fixed.

[edgy hazel]

Baldur you're literally holding back innovation and the betterment of society with comments like that

[twin dew]

Three fixed frequency outputs is worse than variable frequency covering the whole range?

[twin dew]

As you get that variable frequency output "free" with any non-mechanical DC-to-AC conversion process.

[tribal kraken]

It's AC and the gears are more like ranges to allow precision with analog remote controller

[twin dew]

So wall powered and not battery powered?

[twin dew]

But yeah, so you are just doing virtual "gearing".

[tribal kraken]

CAT C9 250kW diesel gen

[edgy hazel]

Please tell me your analog controller looks like this

[twin dew]

Like current CVT gearboxes etc. in cars do.

When drivers used to old gearboxes didn't like the continously changing ratios.

[tribal kraken]

Yeah something like that. Driving is secondary function in this tracked mobile jaw crusher.

[tribal kraken]

Currently at lunch but I'll get a pic

[languid gulch]

isn't the current "big issue" with CVTs that they can't handle high torque?

[twin dew]

No variable transmission can do as much as gear based at same size.

No matter if older type automatics with belts etc, or the current more advanced CVTs etc.
Which is why computer controlled manuals are the high-end, often with dual-clutches etc.

But the current CVTs could allow for drive-by-wire where the pedal just sets the speed, and engine RPM is set to most efficient for the wanted load.

But that was too weird for most drivers, so that was dropped very quickly and replaced with just virtual gears.

[tribal kraken]

Yeah, that's how most modern farm tractor CVT work

[languid gulch]

yea i tried a gen1 CVT from Jeep & it was GARBARGE 🤣

[tribal kraken]

But like Fendt Vario still has 2 ranges you select stationary, for field and road.

[languid gulch]

i wonder what hooking a CVT up to an electric drive would feel like

[twin dew]

Extra two speed manual in there for more optimized ranges probably.
Like most "low gear" vs. "high gear" selectors

[twin dew]

Not much point.
As electrical motor already provides all the same functionality except at very high speeds where the max torque starts to drop.

Which is the reason to some EVs having that low/high-gear two speed gearbox to give more very high speed performance.

[languid gulch]

wouldn't running the electric drive at a lower RPM reduce heat?

[twin dew]

No, actually it is the high RPM that needs less electricity.

[languid gulch]

ah, using the syn drive

[twin dew]

Max current is at stationary, at max torque.

How much the high RPM effects things depends on the motor type (induction, permanent magnet etc.) but the end effect is same.

[languid gulch]

still weird to me

gotta get my head out of ICE thinking

[twin dew]

So adding dual-speed gearbox, you could reset the curves to second point at higher starting speed.
But for normal car users that really isn't necessary.
But the high-performance EVs do that to get better performance above 100km/h and to be able to do 200+km/h.

That percentage is battery charge when testing.

SOC = State of Charge.

So getting same torque from 0 to 60-70km/h.

[tribal kraken]

Looks like the remotes are not with the machine. Understandable as only thing missing before test drive to do is the radios and fuel lines. You could lift the diesel generator of and run the machine from "wall" or battery pack and inverter. But price and energy density is just not there yet to be practical.

[languid gulch]

i'd also assume that you'd still need the motor's hp to produce enough power to overcome air resistance

[twin dew]

Still 300 HP at 150km/h with 45% battery, 375 with 90+% one.

With 190-245 Nm of torque.

[languid gulch]

i did recently subject my Bolt EUV to a "worst case scenario" drive 🤣 it actually did ok

4 people, some cargo, full charge, blasting the A/C the entire time, highway speeds with minimal braking

and it needed to do the A/C cooldown 3x

[twin dew]

But that is the point why some EVs have those dual-range gearboxes, to reset the curves at some suitable point after the dropoff at first gearing starts.
So 70-100km/h if that Model 3 for example.

If Tesla was to add such thing to make it get higher accelerations and speeds.

[languid gulch]

it said the trip efficiency was 2.8m/kwh, on a total driven distance of ~76 miles it lost ~86 miles of range

crap efficiency, but it was definitely the worst i've put it through so far

[twin dew]

So with gear change at 100 km/h, you would then get another straight section until about 150-200km/h.
(not going to see if the length would be the same or double etc. so just estimation).

Which is why Porsche EVs etc. have them and normal ones don't.

[languid gulch]

it'll be interesting to see what the next-gen stuff looks like

i'm hoping that'll be motors in each wheel

[twin dew]

Already done by multiple higher end EVs at top trims?

[languid gulch]

yup

but even for bottom end stuff

clear up a bit more room

[twin dew]

Not really worth it?
As you end up with way more expensive drivetrain.

Because two half-size motor-driveunits will cost almost double one larger one.

[languid gulch]

i feel like a lot of it is going to eventually get cheap enough, like how even a baseline car today has stuff that luxury cars didn't have 20 years ago

[twin dew]

And only benefit is torque vectoring.

In better way than just automatic brake done one.

[languid gulch]

i wonder when electric motor braking is going to be allowed to be the only brakes in a car

[twin dew]

Cannot be.
As that doesn't work when battery is full or speed is slow etc.

[languid gulch]

yea it'd have to be dumped to heat in some way then

in which case rotors would still be fine

good point

[twin dew]

But back the the previous, as the current brake applying antislip is good enough for normal use to limits of the tires.
So having dual-motor torque vectoring instead isn't really needed outside of track use etc.

[languid gulch]

yea it'd need to be a special case

track or offroad

[twin dew]

And two motors will always cost more than one, even when they would be identical (usually mirrors and not identical) to get efficiencies of scale.

[tribal kraken]

We also had some talk with Dana representatives to do custom hubs with integrated electric motors and reduction drive, cost just too high for this prototype. So now its just built off-the shelf parts. Custom parts inside the hubs to remove the stock hydraulic drive and mount the bevel gearbox.

[twin dew]

When the input materials are the same, but you then need more processing steps.

As in one big one using all the materials vs. two smaller ones each using half.

[languid gulch]

unless they came up with a way to make the internal rotors equally efficient in both directions, then they could just rotate the same motor 180° in the chassis for left/right

[twin dew]

More about the casings.

Most already use the same internals.

But with mirrored casings.

Just casing and gear teeth orientations reversed.

Otherwise you have one motor before the drive shaft, one after.
Or one of the drive train units has to be upside down compared to the other.

[languid gulch]

that sounds very volkswagen 🤣

ok, stupid question time

for the electric motors that drive 2 wheels

how do they do "differential stuff"

[twin dew]

Integrated into that reduction gearbox.
This specifically was such dual unit.
The farthest gear is the output one with differential showing inside the "hub".

The splines on the left one are for the electric motor, then some reduction to second shaft, then more reduction to the outside of the third, then that internal differential and output to top and bottom.

[languid gulch]

well that's just cheating

i expected a full fat pumpkin inside there

[twin dew]

Same thing is done in almost all front-wheel drive cars, with differential being part of the gearbox final output stage.

Today, not in far history.

[languid gulch]

ah so it's more like a transaxle

[twin dew]

Yes, just without multiple gear ratios.

[languid gulch]

got it

for some reason i was thinking they'd want to stick a half shaft on either end of the motor

[twin dew]

You need that reduction gearing to get any usable max speed.

[languid gulch]

makes sense to do it that way tho, it's really just changing what's ahead of the gearbox

[twin dew]

But as the electric motors generate so much torgue and have so high usable operating range, you only need the fixed ratio one.

Trading max torque for max speed.

[languid gulch]

that's still just weird to me, not needing to have a bunch of gear ratios

[twin dew]

Because ICE engines are shit in generating power in wide range. Electric engines aren't.
Which is why diesel-electric trains etc. have been thing for so long.

Using fixed speed diesel engine to generate electricity, to drive electric motors.

[languid gulch]

i'm kinda surprised that Subaru hasn't been going gangbusters with electric cars considering their heavy industry stuff

[twin dew]

But when you compare ICE engine torque curve to that electric engine one from before...
You don't get much anything before you have high enough RPM, and then after that it start to drop again rapidly.
And not many normal ICEs can get to 11k RPM at all without blowing up.
Where as that Tesla 3 electric motor got fixed torque from 0 to 5000 RPM.

You can tune those ICE curves to be wider, especially with Turbo, but still significant limits.

[languid gulch]

ngl i haven't even tried out my bolt's sport mode yet

[twin dew]

EV vs ICE in theory.

And the EV maker can tune where the specific drivetrain moves from that constant torque to constant power.

By making max torque less, but moving the switchover point to higher speed.

And you don't need more torque than your tires can use 😁

Which is the limiting factor for almost any EVs on off-the-line acceleration.

Or at least easily could be, if the maker didn't tune the reduction ratio to be even lower.

To move that switch point to right and down.

[languid gulch]

just stick some of those ridiculously wide tires on it, np

[twin dew]

But that is the reason the higher performance trims have the dual-back motors, to give better acceleration with better traction control.

And as the higher performance single motor would start to get too large.

And then the front motor(s) are usually optimized for higher speed cruising.

And the back motor(s) are disabled at cruise to save electricity.

[languid gulch]

i hope that big fat chargers & inverters start becoming standard in cars, fast charging is more important to me than super long range

[twin dew]

Limited by what the battery can take usually.

[languid gulch]

right, but as far as taking up volume in the vehicle

[twin dew]

Just sizing the charger to what the battery can take.
Not artificially limiting the charge rate.

[languid gulch]

i'd rather have 200 miles of range that can charge in 10 minutes instead of 500 miles that takes 4 hours

[twin dew]

Unfortunately the possible charge rate only goes up with battery capacity if there isn't some big breakthrough.

Limit is charge current per battery cell.

And that max depends mostly on the cell capacity.
Somewhat on the form factor etc. causing different heat transfer characteristics.

So the 400V to 800V change for DC charge is way to make the current lower for same power.

But only halves the current in total, and needs double the cells in series, so for same capacity battery, half the cells in parallel, making the cell current still be the same.

But giving some benefits from the other parts of the per cell current limit.

When using exact same cells.

But by doubling the voltage, the power electronics and charge cables can get smaller for same current and/or power.

As we had been reaching point where 400V charging at max current needed insane sized cables.
Tesla was using water cooled ones with smaller conductors, almost everyone else was just using giant, very heavy and inflexible, copper cables.

For the charger side I mean, car side doesn't have water cooling even for Tesla, just thick enough cables.

[twin dew]

Not completely sure about the following numbers for the C ratings available right now, but general idea is the same:

Currently it is very common for Li-Ion cells to be able to take 1C charge rate (1A per 1Ah of capacity, so in theory 1 hour to charge).
But that max rate cannot be reached nearer to full the cell is (which is why often car charge speed is quoted as to 80% full).

You can get higher charge rate cells, I would expect that 3C charge rate is commonly available (20 min to full in theory).
But the higher rate means more internal space needed for heat transfer etc., making the volumetric efficiency worse.
So for same size cell you get less Ah, so the actual max charge rate is less than 3x the 1C cell and you also lost max capacity for same volume or weight. And the per cell price also went up.

I don't think anyone has 5C charge rate cells in volume production.

And like previously said, that is only the speed when the charging voltage doesn't yet have to be limited to not permanently damage the cells from overvoltage, which limits the last 20% or so of charging to slowing charge rates.
Which can easily make it so that 0-80% takes as long as 80-100% takes.

Max discharge speeds are significantly higher.

So EV:s are using as high charge/discharge rate cells before the costs balloon and the volumetric efficiency goes to trash, and then sizing the car side charger to what the battery as whole can take, except some early models that had undersized car side electronics for the batteries.

But larger battery makes you charge faster for same range, until the extra battery weight starts to add up too much in power usage for same range from the extra weight causing more losses.

And just charging to that sweet-spot and not full makes the charging much faster for per range charging speed.

So 20 min fast charges for enough drive time/range for next human necessity (for normal long distance travel) pit-stop is already a thing.

So if the fast chargers are ubiquituous enough, you could already drive until you need to stop for toilet break, stop at suitable location, plug in, go to toiled and possibly grab coffee etc., get back to car, unplug, drive onwards until needing to repeat.

[edgy hazel]

How about building power lines above the streets?

And to guarantee that the car will be connected for long enough, we could maybe add something like rails or so into the ground where the wheels go into.

And while we're at it, just make it way bigger

Oh shit I've invented the train again...

[twin dew]

And trolley busses first.

[twin dew]

Been thought as solution for long range electric trucks, but probably will not be taking off because of the infrastructure costs and the limits it would cause to oversized item hauling convoys.

[stray badger]

Bruh just use a freight train at that point smh

[narrow folio]

It's a failure, there were way too many problems on the two test tracks and the third never was built

also can you imagine the cost to build the infrastructure needed across an entire continent? not going to happen

[twin dew]

Point would have been to have those on the long distance highways, and the trucks would have switched to batteries for the lower speed roads.

But the costs to built the infra would never be acceptable today to governments.

[stray badger]

Use trains for long distance, trucks only need to go short distances. Problem solved

[twin dew]

Rebuilding the track infra would be even more costly than those overhead lines...

[dire igloo]

Thing is: moving the freight from train to truck takes time

[twin dew]

That, and space.
Also needing more dual-track to be able to support enough freight trains.

[dire igloo]

ship → train → truck
ship → truck
You save one moving process

[twin dew]

And often currently you cannot even do ship -> train, but need to do ship -> truck -> train.

[dire igloo]

maybe even two if you would've gone
storage → truck → train → truck → storage

Cuz not every piece of cargo is shipped via ship

[wanton orchid]

just have fast load/unload freight

blindspots

[dire igloo]

Also needing an actually functioning rail system
-# LOOKING AT YOU DEUTSCHE BAHN!

[maiden coyote]

Trains are the answer

[dire igloo]

For the most part, yes

long distance in an ideal environment, yes

[maiden coyote]

Last mile truck. Otherwise trains lol

[dire igloo]

Needs a train network that can handle it

Also there's a distance/accessibility cutoff at which transferring to train at all isn't worth it

[maiden coyote]

You can even do shipping containers so the whole cargo is picked up from the railcar and loaded on the truck

[dire igloo]

And that needs loading stations

[jagged snow]

Intermodal is a good solution most of the time

[dire igloo]

Which need place

[jagged snow]

Just less effecient from the rail side

[maiden coyote]

But you need a functional rail system

I thought they could do it like a passenger train, stations scattered around where the train stops and containers are swapped and the train moves on to the next city or something like that

[dire igloo]

for freight trains to be worth it and still be operable in a workable train network, they need to be fairly large

which means separate stations from the passenger system

which means even more space required

[sage pier]

bottom text lol

[edgy hazel]

If this filament wasn't so fucking insanely good I would never ever print with it

it's horrible to print

[agile smelt]

guys, so my pc alr has a 500gb ssd. i decided to upgrade and bought an extra 1tb m.2 ssd

now, since basically my windows and my primary boot is on my 500gb ssd

idk what to do

i want everything to be on my 1tb ssd and use that 500gig as an extra (the 1tb is a 4.0 and the 500gb is 3.0)

[edgy hazel]

you wanna do it how you want to or do you want a recommendation?

[knotty magnet]

Any tech savy guy can help me block internet from Epic games so I can play in offline mode tomorrow?

[twin dew]

Or just copy the game to another directory? No DRM.

[edgy hazel]

www.netify.ai/resources/applications/epic-games

[knotty magnet]

Wait, the only reason Satisfactory open Epic launcher is because it's in the epics games file directory?

[twin dew]

Might need to create shortcut with "-NoSteamClient" launch argument to the main exe.

And possibly change the contents of the "launcher_id" file "steam"

Seems that just deleting that file in the copy works without any shortcuts.

So make a copy of the game, then delete that launcher_id from the copy.

[knotty magnet]

I just renamed the launcher_id and it work, thanks

[dire igloo]

1. OS and most software are perfectly fine on 3.0
2. just use the new drive as secondary for games n shit
3. what are the models?