off-topic-tech

[mental oriole]

hold on...

[sand saddle]

I mean it's just a simple web game and doesn't seem like I can access any of my personal data, even mail account

[mental oriole]

I'm not getting anywhere by just using that url.

[sand saddle]

Not this exactly tho

At least I think

[mental oriole]

I got a blank 404 page.

[sand saddle]

Let me screen record in DMs

For a split second smth pops up

[mental oriole]

Just paste the link in an ingognito 😄

[sand saddle]

Whenever I restart

[sand saddle]

I did

[sand saddle]

And if I click on it fast I'm in

[undone plinth]

is the game in unreal 5 yet? i came back to it only a day ago. The graphics are nice but it didnt look Unreal 5 nice.

[mental oriole]

should be yea.

[undone plinth]

i could also just be dumb

[sand saddle]

@mental oriole Not sure you saw it on 5fps

I can do 720p 30fps

[mental oriole]

I never saw anythign really. I never got that far with the link so.

[sand saddle]

Well now it's logging in normally

Anyways, using that link I get into the game profile

[languid gulch]

had someone who's in 3 of my discords get hacked

got nailed with like 80 notifications at the same time

[sand saddle]

This shit pops up for half a second and then it's black screen.
However, if I press a button when it hasn't had time to disappear it starts working normally.
But considering my friend got it, it probably just started working normally for him.

[night girder]

Like Diluted said, sound like a session token or something. Can be that it expired and now it logs in normally.

[sand saddle]

Different device, browser and network

So the URL is all that's needed to perform in-game actions under a profile

[night girder]

So, you friend, copy pasted the link you send to him, and he logged straight into your account?

[sand saddle]

Exactly

[night girder]

That does sound troublesome.

[sand saddle]

But there's no button for account settings or such so I can't actually access any of my data, at least from the GUI.

[night girder]

So, what do you see then? Just your profile? Still weird stuff. Not 100% sure what's going on 😄

[sand saddle]

The ongoing game, I can perform actions under my acc

[night girder]

At Cashy, we take the security of your personal information seriously. To ensure that your data is protected, we limit the amount of personally identifiable data we retain, as described above, and employ various security measures, including:

[tough owl]

[sand saddle]

Yup, read that

go.cashygame.com/game/1416c42a-60c9-4ba3-b0ce-898a334a5861/1/dd3ad8a2-5b31-4167-a3ad-6dbb9b3f460a/overview

Made new account, that should provide access

It's possible shit pops up for a split second and then you get blank screen, if that's the case, refresh and try to hit a button before it disappears.

[sand saddle]

Yup

Here you go

[tough owl]

so "token" is stored in the url

[sand saddle]

Yes

[tough owl]

thats hilarious

[edgy hazel]

spent all your money >:D

[night girder]

And it does see it like a login 😄 (since there is a log-out button)

[tough owl]

idk how people use a bookmarks bar

its so much faster for me to ctrl+t and type some the url of where I wanna go

[edgy hazel]

you put your bookmarks ther

[tough owl]

no mouse movement needed

[tough owl]

🤯

dude no way

[edgy hazel]

yeah kinda insane concept

also useful if you have multiple bookmarks to different parts of the same site

[tough owl]

never needed that

[edgy hazel]

I got a few youtube links

[night girder]

bro's mind your own business, it's my browser 😂

I do what I want.

And golden soldier, I checked the back-end calls and so far it looks alright. Nothing I've spotted so far that can backwars engineer to get more account access.

and from the GUI, there isn't much one can do to "hack" your account with that information.

It seems more like a bug that there is a "log-out" button as it seems to just be a link to a match?

[sand saddle]

We can all perform actions under that user

[tough owl]

you leaked your bookmarks not me

[night girder]

Also, the website is made for schools and children if not mistaken. So I guess they want to to be easy to use?

[sand saddle]

By using the link

[night girder]

"leaked" rofl, like I care.

I am not a tin foil hat like some in here 😉

[tough owl]

i am 😎

[sand saddle]

But yeah, good to know privacy isn't being leaked

Still stupid design imo

[night girder]

Yeah, I didn't dig deep into it. Just looked at the calls being made.

[night girder]

Look at the role.

that's in one of the cookies locally.

[sand saddle]

Yeah, but the actions apply

[edgy hazel]

pineapple is gonna moon

trust me

[sand saddle]

Going on a bull run

[night girder]

And also: "loggedOutFromCampaign:"true"

[edgy hazel]

diamond hands

[sand saddle]

Well, herg was able to perform actions under that account by simply using the url

[edgy hazel]

smart actions

[sand saddle]

Absolutely, we're gonna win now

[night girder]

wtf is going on 😂

Is this like a lobby or something?

[edgy hazel]

I went all in on pineapple

[sand saddle]

I guess?

www.swedbank.ee/rahamang/eng/

[night girder]

I try to increase the income but get a -5% hapiness penalty wtf.

[sand saddle]

Took too much risk lol

[edgy hazel]

should've invested in pineapple

[night girder]

I took little risk 😂

going to invest it all fuck it.

ow, I can't I am poor.

[sand saddle]

I'm reading that https URL paths are encrypted.

[charred pewter]

weird, but i know they just plop down in plaintext in web logs ...

which isnt that secure if someone gets ahold of the logs somehow

generally though as a rule of thumb, i just dont try to put anything important in an URL unless absolutely needed for some unholy reason

cause people bookmarking urls with dynamic data like login info can just lead to headaches

and javascript easily using the urls, and picking them and reporting them somewhere else

[mental oriole]

url paths are never encrypted.

@sand saddle Now the link worked... idk why it didnt before... maybe the previous one expired or something.

[winged valley]

Bored waiting for class so Im writing random tech info on the boards

I should not be a teacher

[mental oriole]

Clk 😄

The cause of so many problems

[winged valley]

lol

[mental oriole]

spent 4 weeks debugging ethernet not working.
HW blamed SW, SW blamed HW... turned out a ref clock wasnt set 🙃

[winged valley]

wow

[sand saddle]

So confusing

[night girder]

https creates connection and encrypts data send between two points.

url isn't encrypted, the data send from your browser is encrypted, send to website, decrypted. Data is send from website encrypted to your browser, then decrypted.

try reading the data with wireshark

[sand saddle]

stackoverflow.com/questions/499591/are-https-urls-encrypted

Looks like they all agree that only the main domain url is visible, what comes after is not.

[night girder]

a encypted url would look like this: "hjdsah/dsajioda.ds[ad[pqwl02-3984dkosp]a" 👈 that is a encrypted URL to me.

the connection is encrypted.

[edgy hazel]

brb hashing all my urls

[night girder]

That's what you will see when trying to read encrypted data.

[tough owl]

wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5000xt-cpu-refresh-am4-budget-platforms-faster-clocks-zen-3/

Let am4 die

[winged valley]

I filled a whole wall

[mental oriole]

Because it's up to the webserver running to define what the endpoints are called.
it could be called whatever. But it wouldnt be encrypted. It would just be gibberish at that point.
Having a readable endpoint just makes more sense (in most cases anyway)

[night girder]

it's possible the paths and parameters are encrypted though, but not a full url afaik.

just means attacks in the middle don't see what path you are asking for. But the server decrypts and handles it fine.

[edgy hazel]

yeah gotta have public nameservers be actually able to read the domain

otherwise you just shoot into the void

[night girder]

The topic goldensoldier posted from stackoverflow makes an interesting point though.

The hostname of the server (e.g. example.com) will still be leaked due to SNI.

The payload in the SNI extension can now be encrypted via this draft RFC proposal. This capability only exists in TLS 1.3 (as an option and it's up to both ends to implement it) and there is no backwards compatibility with TLS 1.2 and below.

[edgy hazel]

yeah ofc you can encrypt anything on your subdomain (with wildcard cname) and everything after the domain

I guess you could do some trickery in an internal network, but as soon as you do something public, domain gotta be unencrypted

But that's something I would not be willing to put effort into as it's quite useless

[pure karma]

cpu's for dumies guide?

[winged valley]

"lesson 2" (second time im bored waiting for class) of intro to computer hardware and a little bit of basic diagnostics

First one was about internal storage devices

This one is Clock, CPU, RAM, GPU

Also a shameless ad for my business which isnt in the pics (teacher endorses it lmao)

[edgy hazel]

me doing any computer science

[tough owl]

can I have 37second back

[edgy hazel]

no

[night girder]

"What is your username. I'll save it to my database."

[pure karma]

fire line fr

[edgy hazel]

the penanical vaganical mechanical man

[tough owl]

can you scan my nads until the printer jams

that goes hard

[edgy hazel]

bars bars bars

[night girder]

Hold'up. Did he say "I fire at your motherboard, 4 Terrabytes of RAM" 😂

[tough owl]

yea

[edgy hazel]

bro is running a llm and chrome

[pure karma]

nah bro is running firefox

[languid gulch]

i'd love it if we could keep AM4 around for a few more years. keeps boards out of the trash heap

[gilded helm]

DIY is in a weird place because it's being replaced by miniPCs and laptops more than ever. so even fewer sockets than ever.

Everyday computing has reached the threshold of being so cheap that repairability probably isn't a concern for most people, over just buying a new device. It's the data that's valuable.

$300 miniPCs are pretty good these days.

[languid gulch]

unless you're doing "high end" gaming, even a dedicated gpu seems less & less necessary

iGPUs can handle multiple monitors now, which just feels weird to me

[gilded helm]

We need to hit some tipping point where suddenly people who don't do more than use web browsers have a new hardware need.

Otherwise anything Sandy Bridge on is still fine.

[languid gulch]

hell, a NUC "slot" built into the back of a monitor, if they could agree on a standardized mount, would be amazing

like a new vesa standard

i know that they make mounts for NUCs on some monitor stands, but doing it for the backs of monitor cases/chassis would let it be included on TVs too

[gilded helm]

On the other hand, phones are also killing miniPCs and laptops. A friend I was hanging out with the other day basically never turns on his laptop, barring a specific need. He just does everything on his phone. So maybe phone docking to monitors just gets better.

4 year old flagship phones are $250 or less, but still basically as fast as new ones at everyday compute.

[languid gulch]

or wireless connections to monitors as a standard thing, like how you can take over your tv with your phone

[gilded helm]

Maybe they'll include data with Qi3. Snap you phone to a desktop slot, and your monitor(s) are ready to go.

[tough owl]

compression would be a nightmare

[gilded helm]

Listen here encased industrial pipe. You'd damned well be hiding in this last HDD.

Shit.

[cobalt ivy]

Well, might be good news for someone who wants to upgrade, but fr if you wanna upgrade why not just get a new motherboard with next gen of DDR and longer support by manufacturers as well as newer cpu models and not "XT" versions which are basically just overclocked cpus

[gilded helm]

Once Arrow Lake is out, it'll perhaps be interesting again, because then you have upgrades to look forward to on both platforms.

[cobalt ivy]

intel changing sockEts like their socks and that's my issue with them

[wary olive]

Yall see the dude who gave a 3060 4 extra gigs of VRAM lmao

[sharp oasis]

huh

aint that just a 3060 12gb

manufactured by nvidia

[wary olive]

hang on ill find a video of it

[tough owl]

3060 16gb

[wary olive]

fuck

[gilded helm]

Did they take the 8GB version and replace 1GB chips with 2GB chips?

[wary olive]

i cant find it buts its some brazillian dude soldering more vram onto the board and straight up just adding more vram with no issues

[gilded helm]

Should have done that to a 3070 or 3070 Ti, not a 3060.

[wary olive]

it mightve been one of those

idk it was a 30 series for sure tho

[gilded helm]

Getting the BIOS to work and use the VRAM is the issue, soldering is arguably the easy part. You might be better off trying to get it to use the BIOS of a different GA 104 card that natively has 16GB.

[wary olive]

I mean sure but he showed it off and played games on it with no problem. I thought it was pretty cool.

[gilded helm]

I recall on at least one such attempt at this, the card worked, it just wouldn't always use the extra VRAM. Possibly because a game might have a specific driver optimization when it detects a 3070 or something. But on anything without that sort of specific optimization, if Windows sees it, it should be fine.

[cobalt ivy]

nah 12 gb 3060 is already over the top

even if 16gb version works you will only unleash it's potential in mining, if that's still a thing. Just as a project might be really fun

[tough owl]

What do y’all think a comfortable undervolt would be on a 14600k

[cobalt ivy]

depends on your other parts, just test it

decrease little by little and run a stress test each time until you're satisfied with parameters or it becomes unstable

why do you want to undervolt?

[tough owl]

friend has mini itx 14600k

and small noctua cooler

[cobalt ivy]

either search undervolting guides which involve the same cooler and cpu or do it yourself, can't break anything when undervolting, just don't go too crazy right away, start from decreasing by small numbers

[twin dew]

With HTTPS, only domain is visible unencrypted in the communication over the internet.
The actual full URL is not visible.

Still wrong to use GET type of parameters instead of POST or cookies for the account.

[twin dew]

First, you were on wrong channel.

But to answer:
Because Engine doesn't tell what the graphics will look like.
Just what is the maximum the developers can implement, not the minimum.
The graphics for Satisfactory weren't upgraded when the Engine was upgraded, the upgrade was for other reasons.
Only the unofficial Lumen/Global Illumination support was added as new eye candy compared to UE4.

[twin dew]

In the previous versions there wasn't SNI.
The whole URL and domain was encrypted.
And because of that you couldn't have multiple HTTPS domains behind same IP.

HTTPS 1.1 added the SNI so that was possible.

So the full URL is/was always encrypted.
But the SNI for visible destination domain was added later so the receiving HTTPS-server could determine what secret key it needed to use for the communication when there are multiple domains served by same server.

[twin dew]

Got 15m roll of the stuff you just cut into suitable lengths.

In some places I have used just 4cm long ones.

[pure karma]

i have prettymuch the same thing but its just a roll of velcro that you cut its great the downside is i dont have many places to atach the velcro to afterwards

my desk wasn't exactly designed whit cable management in mind is what i noticed when i originally tried to cable manage my setup before realizing that its not very easy....

but now i kinda have to do it because i have to replug everything again anyway....

[sterile plinth]

Guys

Is it a good idea to dedust my PC with a vacuum cleaner

the insides, not the case

[night girder]

Oof. That's a difficult question.

[twin dew]

Not really.
Normal vacuum cleaners are horrible ESD source.

[night girder]

linustechtips.com/topic/1404443-questions-about-dust-and-static-electricity/ This topic sums it up nicely. Some people will so no. Some people will say yes

The problem is. Dust = static electricity = problems down the road.

There are so many people in this channel who do it all the time without an issue. And I know other will disagree with us and say it's the worst thing to do to a PC.

[twin dew]

So causing ESD damage from the brushes being charged by the airflow and discharged to the PCBs is too likely

[night girder]

And note: that the damage caused isn't instant, your PC might start to shut down randomly after a few years or wonky stuff later down the road.

[twin dew]

Or just start crashing or like, year or two down the line,.

[night girder]

Isn't that what I just said? 😒

The weird thing is though, people seem to be fine with air cans and compressors. Which if I think about logical, also creates dust particles to collide and create static energy. So I don't know. I still do it, but I ground my PC (in the hopes that it helps to prevent some damage).

[twin dew]

Problem is that amount of charge.
With normal vacuum you have nonconductive brushes or other attachment at the far end that gets charged "over time", and discharged at once if that ever touches the part.

With blowing, as long as you don't touch with the nozzle of the compressed air thingie you don't get such momentary discharges.

But with normal home vacuum, the pull is too weak to do anything without touching in most cases.

[night girder]

isn't the damage also just caused by the dust particles itself? a.k.a. dust particles collide and cause static. Don't need to even touch any part. It just happens.

That's why the labs, where the hardware is made, are as close to dust free as possible.

[twin dew]

AFAIK not really.
That side is for other reasons, both to keep the stuff clean (as the dust would adhere to the stuff being made), and contaminate stuff if in actual fab or like.

[charred pewter]

yeah, ive found myself actually cutting the prelength straps in half, and sometimes even fourths

[twin dew]

You can get ESD vacuum cleaners (with conductive nozzles etc. so the charge never gets too high) for example.

Same for ESD cleaning blowers for generating the push type airflow instead.

[charred pewter]

i use my pancake air compressor with its oil/moisture filter ... blow anything out (let it settle somewhere else in my room lol)

[night girder]

my source was GN btw. As you can see, they combat ESD at the factory too.

Timestamp: 25:59 - Awesome Factory Footage & Fighting Dust & ESD

And the main reason is: dust dust dust 🤷‍♂️

[charred pewter]

that image looks like from a high school science class

complete with child labor

[night girder]

😂

[mental oriole]

And they're missing esd coats... 🤦‍♂️

[night girder]

Further down the video 😉

[twin dew]

And that is probably for a chip line.

Where any dust will cause bad chips on wafer.

[night girder]

My point of view is; I take ESD seriously, I am aware of the risks, I try to mitagate them, but I still clean my PC with compressor / vaccuum.

And that's why I said it's a hard question. There isn't a right or wrong here, just depends on who you ask 🤷‍♂️

[twin dew]

Compressor side is mostly fine.
Normal vacuum is bad idea because of that brush charging.

[night girder]

if you only use compressor, you are just spreading the dust around imo.

[twin dew]

You can set vacuum to catch the stuff, as long as the vacuum never touches the computer outside of case structure, and even that is preferred to be not done.

[mental oriole]

👍

[twin dew]

And then you have this kind of stuff available: www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/IT-Dusters-CompuCleaner-Xpert-dust-blower_63788.html
ESD nozzled mini hand compressor for electronics cleaning.

[night girder]

The nozzle isn't such a bad idea tbh.

[twin dew]

And needs to discharge some way, in this case via the users hand, hopefully to a strap.

[sterile plinth]

Haha don't worry that already happens

[twin dew]

As the device itself doesn't seem to be grounded plug type.

[sterile plinth]

It can't get any worse trust me

It's weird because it never crashes when I'm actually doing something important (eg being in the middle of a game)

But it will randomly crash when I'm watching youtube

Usually it says Kmode exception, something like that

[twin dew]

Unstable idle/half-use.

As in too low voltages at lower than full frequency.

[sterile plinth]

A format would fix it I just cba transferring all my files

[twin dew]

Probably not.

[night girder]

I put "figuring out wtf is wrong with my build" in the fridge ffor now.

got a 7800X3D as a spare incase 7600 dies.

might resell the 7800X3D tbh. Since 7600X is stable for a month now.

and I can't resell the 7600X on good consience.

[maiden coyote]

What about using a vacuum to clean the dust filters against the case, or even a radiator, won't clean a rad good, but I think that would be okay

[night girder]

I still think there is like a chance of ESD happening. But how much that chance is in %, no clue.

[maiden coyote]

Not really, I usually take my computers outside and blast them with the compressor.

[twin dew]

Should discharge to the power cable ground, but of course not completely certain.

That all the momentary discharge power goes there.
I do just vacuum the front filter myself with it connected to the computer, even with the computer on.

[maiden coyote]

Static charges are everywhere. It only matters how fast it flows

[twin dew]

Yup.

It is about difference, not absolute.

And the discharges are in joules usually, about how fast it discharges.

[maiden coyote]

Ive always done it with a compressor outside and I've never had any issues with longevity that could be blamed on esd

[long crypt]

Does anyone know why I can't see anyone's profile picture on YouTube?

for example

and thats not settings fault

[night girder]

Yeah, I don't know ... it's not that ESD damage is easy to measure either.

[maiden coyote]

Oldest machine had been dusted plenty of times, I replaced it last year. It had a althlon x2 64 dual core cpu and 6gb of ddr2

[night girder]

I mean, your PC will not give a pop-up "Your PC has encountered ESD " 😄

[maiden coyote]

No, but replacing a stable working machine that's been in use since ~2009 says otherwise xd

Not saying you should put the air hose right against the chips. 6-12 inches back from the pcbs and right up against heatsinks is normally sufficient to remove all the dust bunnies

And don't let the fans spin.

[charred pewter]

let them go VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr

its nice having a giant air filter though for all intake .... my machine stays so clean for an entire year with only a slight hint of tiny white dust and no buildup

[maiden coyote]

Exploding fans no good

[charred pewter]

before i heard the old wives tales about blowing on fans ... i had done it for YEARS on dozens of fans with zero ill effects 😉

but maybe i was never using 120psi blowers on them ..... 🤔

ive rarely gone above like 15 psi for blowing dust

plus with fans, if you have buildup ... blowing on them doesnt do much. gotta pull out the q-tip and isopropyl

[pure karma]

yea i also just jam rods trough the fans to stop them from turning and then whip out the compressed air

[winged valley]

With using a compressor, yes you are indeed just moving dust around

But unless you have the money (and time) to drop all of your components into an ultrasonic when its cleaning time, compressor works just fine

The tiny amounts of dust left over won't hurt anything in pretty much any environment

[charred pewter]

ramrods

[winged valley]

Besides if you're worried about static generated by microscopic dust particles, cat PC's exist and aside from overheating due to clogged fans they work fine

[winged valley]

What does that have to do with anything I just said

Is it not common sense to stop the fans from freespinning?

[charred pewter]

did I trigger something? lol ... i was responding to magicZ

[winged valley]

Unless you know which direction your specific fan spins, freespin has a 50/50 chance of backfeeding current

[winged valley]

Oh my bad lol sorry, use replies they help with context

(i say as I didn't use them)

[jagged snow]

Either way it's problematic.
Even if you don't have reverse polarity, the voltage can get above the breakdown voltage for some components if you're using a compressor.
Not to mention the potential for bearing damage

[night girder]

Still I think I hit the nail on the head with this one 😂

[jagged snow]

Yes

It is one of those questions with no right answer

[tough owl]

Canva buys affinity apps

[night girder]

canva?

[edgy hazel]

18 dirty fans in the computers at Ram Rods!

[edgy hazel]

Canva shut up now?

[winged valley]

Holy shit I just learned about CVE-2022-41099 wtf microsoft lmao

I have a customer with a win 8.1 pc who got locked out of bitlocker. Given what is required to fix this vulnerability, as well as how old win 8.1 is (also its out of service) there's a really good chance I'll be able to get his keys this way lol

[visual tree]

Anyone else recently got a recall letter related to Takata air bags?

"If the airbag is triggered in an accident, the pressure may be significantly too high when the gas generator is ignited. This can result in pieces of metal being thrown into the vehicle interior. This can lead to serious injuries and, in the worst case, death." 👀

I knew it, they are trying to kill me

[edgy hazel]

"Oh no I hit this pole while parking I hope this isn't..."

[visual tree]

Lol, that's literally what happens (although not when you hit something in low speed like when parking). If the air bag is trigged, you get shrapnel all over the vehicle

I see Takata had multiple scandals with the air bag before but manufacturers decided to continue installing their parts....

[night girder]

How cynical 😂 The tech that's meant to protect us, is a shrapnel grenade 😂

Maybe they can start selling the faulty airbags to some military.

[visual tree]

I am now scared of using my car until I bring it to the repair center in 2 weeks lol

So basically, I've been looking at the grenade all those years

[night girder]

Makes you wonder about how this all get's on the market. QA? Tests? Supervision from goverments?

[visual tree]

Yeah, there have been a lot of recalls since 1995 and nobody stopped for a moment and asked: "Why don't we simply recall all vehicles with Takata airbags and repair them if needed?"

or stopped installing them after the first incident

What worries me is that everyone knew about the dangers of Takata air bags but took them a long time to make recalls (and they still do recalls)

[night girder]

What I am wondering is how they are allowed to put airbags on the market in the first place 😄

Oh shit, Atos is in financial troubles 😒

They once tried to recruit me as a consultant.

Lost 3,44 billion euro last year

[visual tree]

Not as bad as redditors inflating GameStop stocks and bringing Melvin Capital down to it's knees because the company was shorting stocks lol

[tough owl]

www.macrumors.com/2024/03/26/apple-announces-wwdc-2024/

[soft bloom]

makefile or bash?

not for C cimpiling, of course

but general task of "i have a couple of lines i often need to execute"

[edgy hazel]

simple shell script

[soft bloom]

and ow about a case when you have it in a context of project.
and that's not a single pair of commands, but 10+ distinguishable tasks, and some of them need arguments, some need to be executed locally, some on server...

[edgy hazel]

tmux and shell scrpts

[pure karma]

why would you even want to have the option to disable a GPU 😐

[cobalt ivy]

what software is this?

[soft bloom]

to not have an rgb rave?

[cobalt ivy]

based on the app name i think it disables lights not the gpu itself

[pure karma]

it dosent just disable the rgb it disables the entire GPU

[cobalt ivy]

bruh how

[pure karma]

good question idk lol

[cobalt ivy]

i mean not how

rather w h y

[pure karma]

not sure

i guess maby if you have multiple gpu's but like at that point why even have them

[charred pewter]

RGB RAVE!

https://tenor.com/view/rave-cat-gif-19603653

[soft bloom]

Ventoy needs to be praised.
Woe USB let me down

I wonder when will windows installation display at least some usefull information about disks its about to install on. What a lazy asses...

Am pretty sure i just left thta thing without many permissions ....

And botifications

*n

[dire igloo]

Poco F5 here

[soft bloom]

I cracjed my smartphone that carried me through last 2 and half years,
And now i realize that time passed but nothing improved. In fact i cant find models with same battery capacity.
And mine had built in gorilla glass...

[dire igloo]

yup

[soft bloom]

Also, perhpas a major contributor to my clamness with miui - i just have my smartphone always one with pop-up vlc player.

It likes to do its dirty things when you want to unlock the phone, right? But i do it rarely. So its a win

And maybe phones made by smaller companies will rise

Fuck, did windows forbid logging into pc without account?

It depends on region

But yep iam so used that was about to pay 20% just to have same smartphone but with nfc

How would rufus help with this?..

I just installed windows 11, and ma going through its tedious setup with many reloads (which is boresome when you have dual oot).
And now am like "where's the skip button? I dont want to log in"

Lmao. This fraking piece of stinger poop
When i detached ethernet it suddenly became obedient

Now all is left is to install steam and play Talos Principle 2...

Yep. Its just that... Games mostly run better on win

Question: what did i do in the past to force windows into dark mode without a key?

Oh, right. Just a couple of clicks into menu despite what it wants me to think...

[pure karma]

i should really figure something out to reduce GPU sag

[pure karma]

i guess something i could try and figure out is why my psu caps itself out at 220W trough the cpu power cables

[soft bloom]

"sag"?

[pure karma]

well atleast i know where the performance loss and instability is coming from and it is in fact the PSU

[tough owl]

we love dlss

linux

[pure karma]

[pure karma]

opened er up a little bit

all it took was having the entirety of windows not responding during the entire benchmark

[pure karma]

31K score 64C highest temp and i still have no undervolting

and the p-cores are only running 5300mhz of the 5400mhz default

[languid gulch]

so i had a first time experience today

i have never had the "how did that guy not hit me" moment while driving close enough that i had to pull over and double check

old guy ran a stop sign, & i couldn't do a damn thing about it

didn't hit me

but i pulled over to make sure everything was still attached

time really does slow down when something like that happens

[gilded helm]

I believe it. When someone blew a stop and Tboned me, I saw the light from their headlights and time was moving slow enough that I had a moment where I knew I was screwed before the impact.

[languid gulch]

was a mostly blind corner. i had enough time to look over & see them, & had that thought of "oh, they're one of those jackasses that likes to slam on their brakes at the last second", & then i realized they weren't stopping

i know i took my foot off the gas & yanked the wheel over, but i'm pretty sure both of those happened after they would have done any good

there wasn't enough time for me to get my foot on the brake before i saw him pass behind me in the mirror

no not cruise control, this was at like 55kph

or like 50

not fast, but perpendicular at that speed for both at a blind corner felt more than fast enough & would have totaled both cars

[gilded helm]

Mine was at midnight on a blind corner and 2 way stop. You can't see well at that intersection because it's downtown so the buildings on every corner go right up to the sidewalk. Plus parked cars and whatnot.

Decent odds the person who hit me was also drunk

They drove off 🤷

[languid gulch]

it's a well known shitty intersection. the main street doesn't have a stop sign, & it curves to where northbound on the "main street" makes you partially blind to cross traffic, & that cross traffic is mostly blind to you because of that curve, on top of neighborhood walls being right up to the sidewalk

so people know that not only do you stop at the damn stop sign, but if someone is coming northbound, you can't see them. you have about 4s to make your move before they're on top of you

idk but that's definitely the first time i've seen someone just run it

it's suicide, especially from that stop sign

& it was extra dumb because i was going southbound, which is a straight section, and you have plenty of time to see me if you fucking stop

haven't been scared like that in a long time

idk if it was even 20cm clearance

[jagged snow]

Yeah, I don't think I've seen someone do worse than slowly roll a stop sigh

Our single traffic light, on the other hand...

[languid gulch]

i just know i can't wait for self driving to become standard, because humans are just shit drivers in general, or they're behind the wheel while doing something else besides driving

i'd love having a metro near me

sadly we're way too low density for it to make sense

[languid gulch]

yea, but that's also, ya know, prague 🤣 not suburban hellscape #4378, USA

[keen stratus]

I never played satisfactory, but I want to buy it... And everytime i look at this chat I'm like:

[wanton orchid]

seeing Intel 10900 second hand cpus be sold at over $800 gives me anxiety

wdym
730mbs is not even full gbit
10gbe use same cables

enough

unless you want to to run it 50m long with shit hardware

my network adapter supports cat5e 100m 10g

we are talking single cable

and ?

the topic was your wall

from the switch upward if you don't know then we are not talking about it

and I said you'll not need to drill anything

unless the one single copper line is more than 50m long

you mean time ?

depend cable quality
they are supposed to be stable
like power cable are
unless it's consumer grade shit
inside wall it's usually standard building grade
probably 100 year

unless you give it to weather

even if plastic get brittle electrical quality does not change much

why drill if cable there already work ?

[gilded helm]

Ethernet cables should last basically forever if undisturbed.

[wanton orchid]

if cat5e(or better) no need to change anything

you are not running cables between 2 factory building

what would need new cable would be fiber obviously

[gilded helm]

I don't think I've ever personally seen an Ethernet cable go bad

[wanton orchid]

the worst possible is plastic going bad

either dephasing or getting brittle af

but in wall it does not move and plastic is protected from weather and light

if you have quite standard cable (and you probably have, 12 year is not old in building)
then what matters is both end equipment
no need to worry about the cable

[gilded helm]

Rodents and insects can be cable/fixture killers too.

[wanton orchid]

that's great

fiber connector use sfp/sfp+/qsfp/qsfp+ standard modules
not well known from consumers
but I mean it's standard modules and slots
so cable being Ethernet or fiber
should not make things more "private" or "impressive" or "expensive"
appart from install new cabling work and more baseline cable cost

that's like 150mbps guaranteed throughput
that's well enough

there are lot of misinformation about caching online

caching is happening in server network
not in transport network

if your steam download is cached
it means it's in a closer steam server

the best being steam server on your MAN (city/district network)

and p2p

I see too many voodoo like blogs and tricks about internet data caching
it's sad

there is no local lan

lan can only be very local

because lan is literally : local area network

your house network is a lan

that's called a MAN

man : metropolitan area network

wdym ?
you pay for internet
internet is internet it's not lan nor man

man is how network is managed so you get internet

I'm talking about how it works
not about how it's priced

the 200gbit line you were talking about is the upstream link of the man

and I was saying to you that
caching can only work in servers
which means either you have an official steam server inside the man
or it still go through that 200gbit link anyway
being "cached" or not

?

I was saying that caching is not magical like lot of internet shit likes to spread about
caching does not work on network

it's official servers that cache things

you don't have official server : you don't have cache

it's always how it works everywhere
internet is not magical
it's interconnected-networks

one server can be connected to multiple networks though

So it can cache for multiple isps

even steam and Netflix probably relies on server providers that have several slots in multiple isps networks

that's the data center job

and in that there also are multiple providers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peering#Private_peering

that 200gbit is peering, probably inside a datacenter

ngl I was not planning to talk about networking 1h long
but I can't let people imagine things off
I have to explain how it works so people don't assume things off

rails companies are selling fiber line facilties they installed on their managed lines to local companies that manage the physical network
which then sell their services to private parties and isps
that want their network to go through it

ppf kellners?

I don't know what that means sorry

Internet really is interconnected network ALL the way everywhere
that's why it's said that sometimes your data can go around the whole world before finding home

I don't know the law where you live
but it's often awkwardly in-between

usually there are land owners/managers
selling physical network for long duration to physical network managers
and these physical network managers give access to it to multiple isps
but sometimes it's the isps themselves that buy the lines for long duration
but by law they should be forced to still sell it to other isps as a physical network manager should do and be interested in

I'm saying that eu forbid physical network monopoly

but I agree that it's poorly applied

Last time I checked there was investigations against main isps such as orange for fuckery with these things

Orange as former France national network manager
still use some of its "national" power over the network
for its own profit

these investigations are too slow

some investigators are probably lacking imo

I hope I helped make things clearer for you about what internet networking is about

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-movie-james-cameron-western-gif-17538858

@inner shale
anyway :

• cat5e is fine for 10gbe
• before 50m for Ethernet it's called short
• 12year is soon a teen building/cabling
• of-course fiber is not copper and need cabling though
• yet fiber still is standard
• don't bother thinking about caching unless you know well about what cache and where, for what thing
• cache is not magical it needs server to official manage it
• servers are in datacenters
• datacenter are connected to multiple isps for profit (as well as having their own network usually)
• a lan is local, it's in the name
• a metropolitan "lan" is just .. a Man
• the bigger picture network is called Wan (wide area network)
• 200gbit for 15000 users is nice
• if you have official servers working with your isps then it's better for you using these services
• data centers, official server owners, and isps have to work together
• that's actually what the whole internet is about

[maiden coyote]

I'm pushing 10gbit over 30awg cat5e or "cat6" for a whole 3 inches.. 0.1m

I would like to learn more about fiber. at least to be able to buy a roll of it and terminate it myself for these

[twin dew]

Only happens for old airbags. The chemicals age badly in some of them and after 10 years react faster than intended.
Been multiple recalls over last 10 years over the issue.

Known issue in a way that wasn't "known" in the airbag and car regulator side.

[twin dew]

Terminating fiber yourself isn't really happening.
Needs very expensive tools.

As the actual fiber core for multimode is about 50 microns thick, so you really cannot position and fuse two of those to each other end-on-end manually.

Sorry, seems that just manual kits for connector shell installation are pretty cheap, not that I would trust them that much.

Because you would need to have the tools from same manufacturer as the connector kit for proper fit.

[twin dew]

Name manufacturer tool kits for fiber connector shells are 500-1000e, no-name chinese kits are down to 50e or so?

The name manufacturer prices are mostly air, but when the thing is about exact dimensions and forces for the specific connectors dimensions...

But of course if you leave extra fiber at the ends, you can just reterminate.

[mental oriole]

F

[pure karma]

rip

[languid wind]

hey guys can someone help me with my linux server? I wanted to install a game server through steamcmd but the problem is I get an out of storage error, my server has 125GB of storage but when I look at "df -h" I get this

I think the out of storage error is because Steamcmd cant find enough space for installing the game server

[twin dew]

Only less than 10GB of actual assigned real drive space in that listing.

So if there is more, it isn't set to be usable.

[languid wind]

this is the server I bought

[twin dew]

You might have bought it, but it isn't automatically mounted anywhere.

[languid wind]

any way to fix this

[twin dew]

There is just 974MiB /boot, and then 8.8GiB at / for everything else.

[languid wind]

that makes no sense when they tell in the description 256 GB

[twin dew]

Would need to partition, format and mount the space somewhere in the directory structure.

[twin dew]

There is 245GB of unused and unpartitioned space on the drive.

[languid wind]

how can I do that? any way you could help me maybe

[twin dew]

Contact the providers helpdesk?
Or some Linux help forum/discord?

[languid wind]

alright I will, thanks for the help man

you helped me to define my problem more clear

[twin dew]

Need to partition the free space, then format, and then mount it.

[tough owl]

yea

[languid wind]

I will try to figure out how I can do it

[tough owl]

Love Linux

[languid wind]

can you help me maybe lmao

because I never used linux that much

just for modded minecraft servers lol

@tough owl

[tough owl]

lsblk

run that in the cmd

this might also help

helpcenter.netcup.com/en/wiki/server/scp-media/

[languid wind]

@tough owl

[twin dew]

So 160GiB disk with 10GiB partitioned.

[tough owl]

yea

[twin dew]

And that net management interface might show rest of the 256GB.

[tough owl]

yea

[twin dew]

256GB is about 238GiB.

[tough owl]

so the rest must be allocated to snapshot history?

[languid wind]

yeah

[tough owl]

thats BS imo

[twin dew]

Either there is only 160GiB available, or would need to delete the virtual disk in the management and create new one to get full size.

Which would also nuke everything used in the virtual machine at this time.

The documentation is very bad at that site.

[tough owl]

yea

[languid wind]

I dont care if I loose the data on my server

[tough owl]

is the goal to host a satis server eventually on this hardware

[twin dew]

Also by reinstalling the OS, you can probably in the install select to use all the drive space, instead of just 10GiB.

[languid wind]

maybe xD

[twin dew]

Or was this just ready made image deploy and not manual install?

[tough owl]

yea it seems very weirdly done. i would've used like hetzner or something since he seems to be located in germany or at least germany best spot to host among friends

[languid wind]

its manual install

[twin dew]

So just wrong selection during the install, that kind of minimal install with rest left for manual use is pretty common default for server distros.
With option to instead use full disk.

[languid wind]

so I have to install it fresh

[tough owl]

it also seems like they allow windows to be installed, might be a better option if you dont know linux fully

[twin dew]

You can partition and mount manually.
Or even change the partition size and resize the data.

But reinstall might be easiest if there isn't lot configured yet.

[languid wind]

I installed only tmux

and there isnt much to configure

[tough owl]

dang hetzner expensive nvm

[languid wind]

I will try to install it new

[twin dew]

What distro?

[languid wind]

I can choose but I think ubuntu is the best one

[twin dew]

That lower one should make one big OS partition.

And the top one is what you currently have.

[tough owl]

snaps 🤢, anyway yea one big should be best

[twin dew]

Where the idea is that you then manually partition rest of the space and mount it like you want.

And that 9GiB is just for the OS itself.

[tough owl]

one large is better imo since you dont have to deal with fstab

[twin dew]

But that isn't manual install, doing it that way is the "image deploy".

[tough owl]

one mistake and say audios for it to boot

[twin dew]

Preconfigured image from the cloud system provider being deployed.

[languid wind]

alright, server is reinstalling

I hate linux lol

[tough owl]

i daily linux 😎

[twin dew]

Would probably cost extra for the OS license.

[tough owl]

or dont activate

[twin dew]

Not option in this case.

[night girder]

Watch a rant yesterday about a Linux user and that new game Helldiver 2 or something?

Something to do about kernel anti cheaty for a PvE game

[tough owl]

why I bought a 4060 to replace my rx7600, the game sucks on rdna3

[tough owl]

it works in linux and is contained in the wine prefix, doesnt touch the kernel idk what their issue was

[night girder]

Their argument "I put so much time and effort in having total control over my PC, why the fuck do I want to instal anti cheat software with kernel access that is dubious AF"

[tough owl]

I mean it makes sense, I dont like things touching my kernel for a game. but on linux its all contained in the wineprefix and doesnt touch my linux kernel

[night girder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzfPE5lKy1E

[tough owl]

thats on windows

steamdb.info/app/1826330/ and if it does it'll use this which afaik only lets it touch certain things

[night girder]

What is on Windows?

[tough owl]

the helldivers 2 anticheat touching the kernel

[languid wind]

alright

server is ready again

[tough owl]

lsblk see whats there

[night girder]

It even has CVSS 😒

[night girder]

people recommend even on Linux, to use steam/proton to protect kernel.

[tough owl]

oh yea I watched the SOG vidoe

[languid wind]

I think it worked now

[tough owl]

yea its in a container, kinda like docker so it can be killed at anytime

[languid wind]

vda 3 is now 159 GB

[night girder]

I just wonder, why do we need an anti cheat for a PvE game

[tough owl]

do df -l its a lowecase l

[night girder]

And I think I know why. Atleast if I can believe community.

[tough owl]

pvp is never coming to the game, likely because they dont want players to have an unfair advantage when playing with other players

[night girder]

Anyway, credits to SOG, never watched any of their content. Pretty solid.

[tough owl]

hes a linux turbonerd

[night girder]

he tries to explain things more than others, is what I like.

[tough owl]

looks like it works

[twin dew]

So just use apt now to reinstall tmux and steamcmd.

[languid wind]

I will

[tough owl]

would it be better to run it in docker, or is that not supported?

[twin dew]

Ubuntu installs docker version IIRC.

[languid wind]

I highly appreciate your support guys 🙌

you are the best

[tough owl]

i have no idea how the dedicated server stuff works, I dont have friends who wanna play nor the hardware to do so

[twin dew]

I mean for the Steam itself.

But for the dedi server help: #dedicated-servers

[tough owl]

ubuntu installs docker and then steam inside of docker, i have never known that to be the case

oh also this is interesting,
wccftech.com/xbox-spencer-epic-games-store-console-dropping-exclusivity-gen-z-appeal/
if they keep the price the same for new xbox hardware and support apis like ogl,dx11,and vulkan it would actually be kinda cool

[pure karma]

i would if it was in stock in store literally anywhere

[wary olive]

Im debating on upgrading to a 3060 or 4070. 3060 better value but 4070 is just better

What yall think

[pure karma]

4070ti super or water the f its even called

it realistically better price to performance

i did a good job at that until it decided it just wanted to start working again... so now im just stuck whit it

it skips a few frames here and there but it revived itself completely on its own

[wanton orchid]

did you shoot the screen or something ?

[pure karma]

nope thats the gpu doing that lol

not the screen

[wanton orchid]

then why are defects perfectly aligned ?

usually when it's gpu it's more doing squared black boxs or like white noise

[pure karma]

gpu or gpu dp port because the screen is fine

[wanton orchid]

is that gameplay or video ?

[pure karma]

3Dmark

timespy

[wanton orchid]

3d scene then
looks like it's correctly rendering

[mental oriole]

That is corrupt vram

[wanton orchid]

horizontal lines looks like video stream is off though

[mental oriole]

Tried another port on the gpu? if possible, or a different cable.

[edgy hazel]

Isn't this like the 3rd time you killed a GPU?

[wanton orchid]

In the same way

[twin dew]

Max voltage offsets aren't safe.

[wanton orchid]

was the same test too

tbh I even wonder if it was the same video

[pure karma]

yea thats the 1660 not the 4070ti

but the 4070ti is allready starting to skip frames aswell so we will see how long thats gonna last XD

[mental oriole]

[edgy hazel]

Bro just stop using a computer. At this point it's you

How the fuck do you keep doing this

[twin dew]

By constantly overvolting?

[pure karma]

i dident touch this one tho...

not that it lets me anyway because its locked

[edgy hazel]

Are you just sitting there with a screwdriver touching your GPUs PCB?

[twin dew]

Also lives way up north, so ESD is much more prevalent without protection.

[edgy hazel]

Just chucking it into a fryer and plugging it in

[pure karma]

but ay atleast on the positive i got the 13700K to work properly whitout self destructing

so i guess thats a bonus

[twin dew]

For now.

[pure karma]

https://tenor.com/view/arrow-green-up-arrow-gif-12450997

yea defedently a huge for now

because now said radiator that i wont roast for the 47th time is now working about 3x as hard

[charred pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-mushroom-dance-gif-25197583

[tough owl]

what tf did he do now

bro overvolted his vram and blew up a card

I see now

[sharp oasis]

how do you keep breaking things

[mental oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-shia-labeouf-snl-skit-fingers-gif-4860090

[sharp oasis]

like

BROTHER. i put my machine together

and its issue free

AIO works fine, Cpu and ram also work fine, gpu is a bit on the odd side rn and not liking any driver past 23.12.1

but Perfectly fine

and i also live up north

where ESD is huge

[jagged snow]

I have no clue but it's genuinely impressive at this point

[sharp oasis]

Either really unfortunate luck

Or straight up incompetentce

Or both

[tough owl]

The latter is my guess

Wonder what his parents think since they’re probably footing the bill of the broken hardware

[edgy hazel]

Just hunting GPUs for sport

[tough owl]

Should he like RJ but do it with phis and old xeons

[sharp oasis]

yeah i dont get that

i had to sell off extra hardware i had overtime to afford my new stuff

[maiden coyote]

Bad luck and an impressive level of if it ain't broke fix it til it is

[visual tree]

Not sure if Amazon made an error but somehow the item I want to order qualifies for free delivery lol

And according to Terms and conditions, it shouldn't 🤔

Maybe I should keep my mouth shut

[gilded helm]

It probably costs Amazon too much to figure out how to intentionally delay and upcharge shipping for non-Prime folks 100% of the time.

[visual tree]

Luckily, Amazon has always been fast when doing international shipping for me so far (even on holidays like christmas or easter)

The problem is when the local courier partner receives the package, that's where the delay happens....

Amazon could ship the package through multiple countries in 2 days while a local courier couldn't ship a package inside the same city for a week lol

Also learned the lesson to never forward packages to a parcel locker located in urban areas since there are not enough empty lockers and you will have to wait for a while until there is an empty locker available for you

[tough owl]

i thought that was a given

[visual tree]

It was near my office since I am lazy but waiting for a week and half taught me a lesson 😅

[tough owl]

why not have it delivered to you at work

or company policy says nah

[visual tree]

Because the courier started hiring cheap labor from asia (no offense to anyone from asia) who don't even understand basic english words and could drop my package in the wrong place

A lot of my coworkers ordered food through app, marked the exact delivery location and said to drop the food on the reception

But the people doing the delivery drop the food in the wrong buildings all the time

The security at the reception had to throw away food delivery yesterday that was on the desk for 2 days because nobody came to pick it up lol

[night girder]

If we order a package to be delivered at home, they sometimes don't even bother and put it in a locker. Happened to my mum. And the worst part was, when she went to the locker it was already open and there was nothing inside! Think she lost about 100 euro's or more.

[visual tree]

Ouch. Did she file a claim?

Here, lockers have cameras installed so they can see who opened the lockers at any time

[night girder]

She got so tired of calling back and forth that I think she just left it as it is.

Everyone was pointing the finger at everyone. And nobody was to blame in the end.

You know how it goes sometimes.

[visual tree]

Yeah, sorry to hear that. Happens here often too

[night girder]

I don't mind these new innovations like lockers etc. But don't put products in there if we don't ask for it. When we finalize a online order, we can select stuff like: deliver at home, deliver at certain market places in the area, deliver at the post office or deliver in a locker. And I think this must be respected.

But it saves times for the delivery company to just put it in the lockers and be done with it. 😠

[visual tree]

I think they leave the package in the locker here too if you choose home delivery but nobody is at home (or the courier doesn't bother ringing)

[night girder]

That last part. It happens too much.

[tough owl]

the post office at my school is kinda awful too

[visual tree]

There is a delivery company here that is severely understaffed (haven't used them in a long time though) and the couriers don't have enough time to deliver all the packages. They simply won't deliver your package and say it's because the address is unknown

[night girder]

atleast, don't lie and just say "we didn't have time"

I just don't like being lied too. 😛

[visual tree]

Yeah, there is no way my address is unknown. I had more than 100 deliveries and no problems with couriers trying to locate my address

[night girder]

In the end, it's still a service you paid for. Not that it's free and we have no right to "complain"

A lot is still aftermath of corona.

People got locked up in their homes. People discovered online buying. More online orders = more deliveries.

[visual tree]

I am surprised there are no ATM's and lockers in my part of town since there are a lot of residential buildings around

[night girder]

No ATM?

[visual tree]

The nearest one is a 5-minute walk

[night girder]

Oh your part of town, I understand

[visual tree]

I thought ATM's are always installed in parts with a lot of residents but guess there are different unknown factors

[night girder]

ATM was a big subject in my country, so important, that even the goverment had to step into the discussion. The banks wanted to close most of the offices and replace them all with ATM's. There was backlash from the citizens. Goverment stepped in to make a law or agreement or something.

So only the big villages and cities would have a physical office building. All the rest would be ATM. Since it's cheaper for a bank to have those than a whole office and have to pay people.

[pure karma]

i have had the bill for the incompetent hardware

and i dont think you want to know what its up to

[night girder]

And the banks have all the money and even they are being cheapskates, wtf is wrong huh 😂

[visual tree]

Here, old people would revolt since they are terrified of using ATM's

They consider it an evil box that steals deposited money lol

It's very rare to see elderly using ATM's here. They don't have a problem waiting in line for an hour to visit a bank clerk

[night girder]

But I understand, the older you get, the harder it is to keep up with all the changes, so what if you have a question? Ask the ATM?

I rather talk to a real human than a AI when I have questions for example.

That's why I am about to leave my bank, because whenever I call them with a question they tell me to figure it out in the App. Which has AI. I mean wtf?

The next big step will be to remove paper money 😉 No more need for ATM!

[visual tree]

I recently talked to bank AI assistant and it didn't go well. In the end, I gave up and got an organic lifeform to talk to me

[night girder]

I remember that 😄

If I had to choose, I rather have drones deliver my package at home, then lockers.

[visual tree]

ATM ate my card and the bank employee gave it back to me and told me to call the bank in order to unblock the card. AI assistant tought I had issues with a banking app and didn't understand anything lol

[night girder]

but then we might get the problem that people will shoot drones out of the sky in the hope it's an iPhone or something 😂

[visual tree]

Like, I just asked the AI assistant to unblock my card and it replied with "What error are you getting on the app?"....

[night girder]

Wasn't amazon testing out drone delivery?

[visual tree]

I think they have been doing it for a while

[night girder]

Herg posted a while back about asking the last numbers of PI to an AI 😂

[visual tree]

Oh, I remember that

[night girder]

and it actually freakin answered 😂

You never knew if it was a meme or not, but if it isn't... ooof.

Kade, you still lurking chat?

[visual tree]

Wish it could give us a schematic for a warp drive from star trek but that is not going to happen in the next 200 years or more

Unless I am underestimating AI

[night girder]

or that it could explain dark matter

maybe atleast tell us if it's a fairy tale or not.

I doubt that we will have a big scientific breakthrough, like the computer was, anytime soon.

[visual tree]

There has been a recent study that could debunk dark matter but I am not an expert in physics so I can't judge that 😅

[night girder]

I know enough to know it could be true or false.

That's the one thing that sometimes is a bit tiresome about science, they are constantly disagreeing with eachother 😂

Like, I never want to order a pizza in a room full of scientists, by the time they all agree I am 💀

[maiden coyote]

The only time my card has ever been skimmed was at a gas station atm

[night girder]

skimmed?

[visual tree]

Scanned by a device installed by scammers

[night girder]

Oh 😂

I got milk 😂

[night girder]

Did they get money?

[maiden coyote]

mybad. copied

[maiden coyote]

no, they tried. The payment processor at my bank flagged it as suspicious and blocked the charges.

I was still without a debit card for a week.

[night girder]

Do you know if they went for a big amount or a small one?

I am just curious what security measurement kicked in 🙂

[maiden coyote]

they were doing small transactions first. they probably still do to avoid it getting flagged

[night girder]

interesting

[maiden coyote]

they'll do maybe 10 $1 charges then start doing 50's and 100's

[night girder]

It's probably the amount of transactions that flagged it. If the account they wanted to transfer to was on a blacklist it would get blocked.

[maiden coyote]

I guess if they were to do $1000 right off the banks computers will block it because it's suspicious.

It's pretty common for your bank you "track you" so if you used your card often in one location, and suddenly a charge pops up from a location that's a thousand km away, they'll say no

[night girder]

banks have different databases. Blacklisted accounts. But also accounts to monitor to track money flow. They know this accounts are suspicious and want to see where the money goes so if and when they go after them, they can try to get it back.

[maiden coyote]

I've had it happen when traveling.

[night girder]

I hope you did not lose much money.

[maiden coyote]

I didn't lose anything. the owner of the card or account in the US is rarely held responsible for fraudulent charges. either the bank will get there money back.. or take the money from the merchant that sold goods or services with the fraudulent card.

[night girder]

Ah good to hear 😄

[maiden coyote]

sucks if you run a small business and someone does it to you

[night girder]

I am not sure how it goes here. But I watched a documentary of people who got scammed by the internet, and they never got their money back. They lost 1000 of euro's.

But your situation is different. It wasn't your fault at all.

And in the case of the documentary, the people let their guard down and got caught by a scam. So rationally, they are a little bit responsible and the banks just say: sorry, out of luck. The money is gone. They try to get it back, but it can move so fast.

[maiden coyote]

getting scammed is worse.. because if you willingly give them your money.. well, you're kinda sol.. in my case they tried to take it without my consent, which at least in the US, you're not responsible for.

[night girder]

yes, that's what I was trying to say 🙂

And who expects a ATM to be hacked.

[maiden coyote]

I've gotten into a bad habit of using my credit card a little too much, but normally I leave my debit card at home and charge everything.

[night girder]

I don't have a credit card.

[maiden coyote]

that way at the end of the month if I see something suspicious.. I'll complain. or if it gets stolen.. and they don't side with me.. I just won't pay for it xD

[visual tree]

Wish my bank had disposable virtual cards which can only be used once. This would mean a lot to me

[maiden coyote]

You should be able to get those from a 3rd party no? rossman mentioned something about it. That'll probably become the new norm

[visual tree]

I have it on Revolut account but I only use Revolut for withdrawing money from other banks ATM's since I don't pay a fee

Well, there is a monthly limit though (EDIT: €230)

[visual tree]

Sadly, they haven't yet

[night girder]

I wonder why

[visual tree]

And they don't even allow you to change the card PIN at the ATM like the other banks....

[night girder]

What are the main benefits of revolut? Because their website is full of PR nonsense

Not only are we on the clock 24/7 monitoring and securing your money, but our full banking licence ensures your money is protected by the Lithuanian State Company Deposit and Investment Insurance.

[visual tree]

Before moving to euro, it had better currency exchange than my own bank

But since we have euro now, I only use it for withdrawing money from other banks ATM's for free

Other than that, I don't see other benefits or I'm not aware of them

Forgot to mention virtual disposable cards too

[night girder]

So banks should just make atm withdrawels free.

Regardles of what bank it is.

[visual tree]

ATM withdrawals are only free if you withdraw from your own bank ATM

And withdrawing from other ATM's was only free for 1 month before euro was implemented as a promotional thing

[night girder]

greed.

[visual tree]

At least we are not living in Japan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbS6JrBcQ4M

It's funny how an advanced country has even worse bank fees than local banks here lol

[night girder]

Japan is just different.

Like a good friend of mine lived there for about 7 years I believe, he had a few companies.

It's pretty easy for example to put in expenses for tax reduction.

[visual tree]

Oh, I've actually visited a company that distributes pizza vending machines here

The owner showed me in details how everything works inside the machine

Speaking of quality, it's somewhat above the frozen pizzas you can buy at the grocery store

[night girder]

sound cool

[visual tree]

Couldn't eat the whole pizza in peace though because the owner's golden retriever was jumping at everyone

[tough owl]

sounds like a riot

[night girder]

kade, how is that AI going you installed?

[tough owl]

Ollama?

[night girder]

yeah whatever you downloaded

[tough owl]

works kinda well

[night girder]

does it know what the last numbers of pi are?

[tough owl]

let me ask

mistral:7b model btw

[upbeat dagger]

if anyone has access to an AI with a million token context window, you can upload the entire docs.json to it

😁

[maiden coyote]

hm...

this is what I probably should've got instead of the tripplite one.

but this looks really good.. if it's an online ups

[jagged snow]

Android 14 broke my phone

The volte icon is stuck where the 5g one should be

[tough owl]

what phone do you have

[jagged snow]

Op9

[tough owl]

ah thats interesting

[winged valley]

This is what gf has made so far

I think I'm gonna ask to make the bandaid a little more centered, as well as increase saturation on all colors a little bit (especially the heart and bandaid)

[twin dew]

So another prefilter prewritten answer.
Because that "random digits" is certainly manually written selection.

[winged valley]

For sure

[twin dew]

So another "AI hallucinates", so lets not even give the specific question to it and just give out prewritten answer instead.
Which is the standard "fix" for the hallucinations and questions they don't want it to answer.

By having classic decision tree chatbot code in front of the AI acting as prefilter.

[tough owl]

https://fixupx.com/GearboxOfficial/status/1773195417653506202?s=20

[winged valley]

Interesting

I don't see that being a good thing for their future games but we'll see

Maybe a change in leadership will make their stories better

[twin dew]

Gearbox was part of Embracer, and they sold Gearbox to Take-Two.
Much better than Embracer closing more studios to cut costs.

embracer.com/releases/embracer-group-divests-gearbox-entertainment-for-a-consideration-of-usd-460-million-to-take-two-interactive-software-inc/

So just Embracer getting Take-Two stock.

[mental oriole]

not sure 1mil context window exists yet (at least public availability). Also super heavy on memory. Like I can do 8k context with my 3090 just fine, but if I try double that it becomes super slow on generating text. But I also run 13B model.

[twin dew]

And I really don't understand why you would want to ask "AI" satisfactory production optimization questions...

[languid gulch]

was today end of quarter for game companies or something

like 8 of my games all had updates spit out

[mental oriole]

End of Q1 ye.

[upbeat dagger]

oooo

[upbeat dagger]

not optimization questions, something else

[gilded helm]

IIRC, BMW demonstrated an AI assistant for its vehicles which would comb the user manual for answers. That's what this made me think of. Train the model well enough, and stuff like that can be very useful.

It was only a demo, it's not in any products currently

[twin dew]

So just try for replacement of proper content listintings and indexes?

And those are pretty horrible in many car manuals.

But wouldn't take that much work to make proper ones.

When all you have is Hype Hammer, then everything will look like a nail...

[long crypt]

a

[visual tree]

Just saw some workers pulling out a giant spool of fiber in front of my house, it's really happening 😭

[visual tree]

€32,98 per month (without discounts)

I think only businesses can get symmetrical speed afaik

[night girder]

There is a super easy way to figure this out. Ask the question again.

[visual tree]

Good thing I know a project manager for the area where fiber is being laid so I could get the service faster

Not sure if they have installed fiber distribution cabinet yet

The price already includes the modem

ISP owns the modem but you could buy the modem from the ISP if you wanted to

Although I don't see why anyone would do that when you can buy any router you want in a store and use it instead of ISP modem

You need to connect it to the ONT though (or you could buy a router with sfp port and find a compatible GPON sfp module which will work with the ISP)

It's easy if you just plug the router into ONT and setup pppoe credentials (and in some cases VLAN id)

[sterile plinth]

Y'all I'm thinking of buying a new desk but rn it's like this

Will this work with a bigger desk, or will it become too unstable

On the right side

[visual tree]

Getting it soon

In worst case scenaria, I should have it by the end of the year

[sterile plinth]

Rn it has a quadrilateral shape, and I'm buying a rectangle desk, which is going to make the right part bigger by about 15cm

[visual tree]

ISP employees get a €20 discount though 😎

Don't know what's the markup percentage though

The ISP will have to install poles so the wire doesn't go through my attic towards other homes (I live in the first rowhouse)

This was done like in 1988 and nobody does it today

And this is how you properly connect multiple houses through a shared pole

This is a more cost-effective solution since you can connect houses on both left and right side

If you connected houses through a street, you would need more poles

If there are no manholes nearby, the ISP will usually install poles

or run fiber through existing poles

If there are manholes, they will run fiber underground

[visual tree]

Btw, just ordered Ubiquiti AP

Going to order EdgeRouter 4 or 6 in a month or two

[buoyant umbra]

Great choice, be sure to enable hardware offloading and it will happily operate at full line speed 👍

[visual tree]

Yeah, good thing I didn't decide to order Edgerouter X SFP since it would struggle running gigabit speeds even with hardware offloading

Edgerouter 4 or 6 is going to be more than enough for my use (probably 6 since I might need more ports)

[pure karma]

i guess seeing how im gonna have a fairly long afternoon worth of free time later today i may aswell use it to finally check out why my laptops headphone jack dosent work

[edgy hazel]

I'll prolly get a UXG lite somewhat soonish

I wanna unify my networking equipment

[visual tree]

I was thinking of getting Dream Machine Pro instead of EdgeRouter but I think it's overkill for my home network

[edgy hazel]

Yeah I ain't got no need for sfp ports since I doubt Germany has any plans to build out its infrastructure any time soon

I mean even my company in the middle of Frankfurt can only get 1Gbit max

[visual tree]

Hope you won't put me on the blacklist since I work for Deutsche Telekom group

*although not in Germany

[charred pewter]

lol saw this patch note for horizon forbwest and thought "who the hell does this anyways?": The game is now able to save when the Documents folder is rerouted to the root of a drive instead of a folder.

[stray badger]

Huh?

[charred pewter]

why would you make your hard drive root, your Documents folder ?

[stray badger]

Somebody comlained lmao

Could the root of an external drive or secondary drive

Still dumb

[charred pewter]

hmm maybe.... but even then wow ... 🤔

not the kind of organization i would like to do to windows lol mainly for fear of windows exploding

[edgy hazel]

Oh I hate you. But I work for something unethical as well. We gotta live

[visual tree]

I see questionable things at work often and I'm pissed because there is nothing I can do about it. Management board probably doesn't care

[edgy hazel]

Very fun watching people actively work against your own interests...

And you can just say "Yeah we can get that housing-bubble-inflatinator done this quarter"

[maiden coyote]

congrats

I will say it's a little more involved than click and check if you want the most out of it.. if you want to use 160Mhz channels there's a little bit of tweaking

[visual tree]

They are going to totally wreck the housing market here. First they partially caused the housing bubble by offering subsidized housing loans and now they are going after subsidized rents too. This is going to increase the rent prices too.....

[visual tree]

If I survived using OpenWRT interface, guess Unifi won't be much of an issue 😅

Had to revert back to original firmware on Asus router because OpenWRT caused issues on my wifi

OpenWRT works great on some routers but guess mine isn't on the list

[maiden coyote]

the interface is nice on UI.. I mean they call it ui.. it better be good

I had issues of not knowing what 160mhz channels were... on 5ghz you have 2 160 mhz channels, 4 80 mhz etc so I had overlap between my two AP's

[visual tree]

I had perfect 2.4 GHz here until I noticed one of my neighbours has 40 MHz instead of 20 MHz...

That neighbours wifi is overlapping everything....

[dire igloo]

I can totally see that happening.
You put in a dirt cheap 2tb HDD for document storage and just use the reroute to have windows documents default to that drive

[maiden coyote]

you've only got 2 channels on 2.4 ghz 40mhz..

most places say to just disable it and use 20mhz and move everything that needs any kind of throughput to 5ghz channels

[charred pewter]

maybe i find it odd to dedicate an entire drive to just Documents ... i'd at least make a folder of "Documents" so I can also possibly use the drive for other things 😄

[twin dew]

The official WiFi spec says that the 40MHz channels on 2.4GHz should only be enabled when there are zero other AP:s visible.

But many cheap ISP routers used them automatically anyways.

[visual tree]

Good thing my new U6+ has better 5 GHz coverage than the crap all-in-one routers you get from the store

Some devices at home don't support 5 GHz so I have to use 2.4 GHz for them

Even if I set the right channel on 2.4 GHz and everything was perfect, a new wifi could appear in a month which uses 40 GHz and ruin everything

[maiden coyote]

can't really do anything about what other people do :/

and often those cheap isp provided routers don't let you adjust the power settings.. so they're always on full power

2.4 is pretty busy. when I lived in a trailer park it was even worse.. hundreds of AP's blasting on 2.4 at full power

[visual tree]

Almost identical overlapping on 2.4 GHz like in my case

Oh wait, it's 20 MHz

[maiden coyote]

the only thing you want on 2.4 is pretty much smart bulbs, and iot stuff

[visual tree]

Thought someone used 40 MHz

[maiden coyote]

I'm still using 40 lol

[visual tree]

My roomba even recommends 2.4 GHz but I guess it's primarily because of better range

[maiden coyote]

it probably doesn't even have a 5ghz radio

most iot stuff doesn't.

[visual tree]

I think I managed to connect it to 5 GHz once on accident but I don't want it to use 5 GHz because of signal problem in one of the rooms

Works perfectly fine on 2.4 GHz

[maiden coyote]

well, once you get one unifi ap.. you'll see how badass it is and you'll probably buy more lol

signal problems solved [:

[visual tree]

U6+ is probably going to be an overkill for my home, don't think I'll be getting more access points 😅

Unless I lived in a very large house

[maiden coyote]

2 u6+'s and you'll be good then lol

unless you can locate it in the center of your home. which depending on how your home was built might be impossible without tearing walls out

the U6's can mesh, but like every other meshing system it's using available bandwidth to mesh. That's fine for internet (outbound) traffic. Local traffic between two mesh points will be crippled, expect something like 1-4MB/s file transfers if you have a nas plugged into it

[soft bloom]

so, now i have played another game (beside Factorio) that can make stunning things in photomode.
i have no idea how croteam does this wow.
their work is really udnerrated

[tough owl]

how often do 40 series gpus go over the max turbo clocks posted on the spec sheet?

[mental oriole]

CVE-2024-1086 Fun stuff 😄

[tough owl]

nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2024-1086

?

[night girder]

https://github.com/Notselwyn/CVE-2024-1086

holy shit 😂

[jagged snow]

Oh boy

[mental oriole]

amazing how people find that shit

[edgy hazel]

ouch

time to update all my shit lmao

[tough owl]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/new-open-source-gpu-is-free-to-all-supports-modern-windows-software-stack-runs-on-an-fpga-with-custom-pcb

[charred pewter]

fury

[soft bloom]

what you do when you have critical bug and only known case requires it to load lots of data and wait... wait... wait for it be processed untill the one step that denies logic?

in more detail:
i add column from one DataFrame to another
its in int64
but for whatever cursed reason, after it appears in second DF, it becames float64, which also messes up some entries into being NaN
this case fucks my mind mercelesly
i can't replicate it, except when i use the same object of "second DF". building DF from scratch does not repeat this...

[mental oriole]

Sounds like a race condition.

[edgy hazel]

+1 to strength

[mental oriole]

Assuming you have access to a debugger. Is it always the same data frame?
printf debug?
something fucking up the buffer the dataframes is in?
What kind of data frames are we talking about?

[soft bloom]

r a c e ???

[soft bloom]

ofcourse debugging it.
its not C, its pandas... C inside numpy inside pandas' DataFrame
so no memory shenanigans (most probably)
welp, you know, just under 10mil rows with dates, strings, floats and ints

[mental oriole]

Race condition => two processes access/ modify the data at the same time.

[night girder]

use singletons 😄

[soft bloom]

i hate singletons

[mental oriole]

I'm just guessing a data race because it sounds awfully like it. Possible it's not though.

[soft bloom]

definitely not. its just 1 process all the way

[mental oriole]

Could also be a bug somewheere else. Unless numpy/ pandas does threads.

[soft bloom]

lmao

imagine what? i changed order in which columns are added
so that problematic olumn is now added not second, but first. before dates

and it freaking worked

[mental oriole]

Someone is doing funky memory shenanigans in that case. How does the data frame look like?

Assuming it can be shared.

[soft bloom]

its public data slightly processed... problem is more about its size.
cause, guess what, at smaller scale this thing didn't occur.