satisfactory

[raven grotto]

maybe future idea 👀

[earnest condor]

You should see my "Efficiency Last" outline 😂

[frozen ingot]

first HDD i got in current playthrough was six slots and cast screws and ignored both and kept it in my library. ask me why 🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

bro is mental, bro is unhinged, bro is jaguar

[frozen ingot]

i would actually be curious to see that

and indeed, generally curious to see any of your save games 😄

[earnest condor]

It disallows anything that makes a line more resource-efficient.

[raven grotto]

wait now that thunderstorms are a thing, can you get struck by lightning when ziplining

[frozen ingot]

oh i misunderstood lol

sounds painful!

[earnest condor]

Would need to be updated to the new alts they added. But it had stuff like forcing Compacted Steel and such 😂

I don't think anyone ever ran it. But it was questioned whether completing the game was even possible given how horrible the item ratios became.

Primal Pioneer is probably my favorite challenge that I created though.

[mortal ginkgo]

nope

[mystic urchin]

Is there a workaround to enable frame gen for anything else besides AMD FSR?
Previously a mod allowed it for DLSS but it no longer works
I get artefacts on screen and inconsistent images on high movement with AMD FSR frame gen, and without it, I struggle getting over 60 FPS

[raven grotto]

omg in 1.2 pausing actually pauses the game?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[mortal ginkgo]

prior to 1.2, we had no way to pause and yes it works

[raven grotto]

im so glad i went to do this

now i am definitely not using SCIM to locate mercer spheres general location then happening to find them with the object scanner, I would never

[earnest condor]

The best vanilla way is Radar Towers + Object Scanner.
But if don't have that kind of time, SCIM is a perfectly fine choice.

[raven grotto]

dont have radar towers unlocked but once I do I try to stay away from interactive maps but sometiems i cant

also how long can i walk by uranium for

suprisingly long

[mystic sonnet]

I really always wanted to use tractors but everyone said they were very buggy, so I never used them. I really want to try them out after the update. I can't try now because I am using gfn

[mortal ginkgo]

they kinda were buggy if you used too many, but now they are amazing

[raven grotto]

i used to drive everywhere then i unlocked blade runners and parachutes so now i kinda run everywhere

[mortal ginkgo]

it is still goofy in places and I will miss their wonkiness but their 1.2 version is now really user friendly

[mystic sonnet]

Well unlocking trains are easy so Idk. Using them is hard though .d

[main basin]

can someone tell me if there are mk3 pipes because if so they would be so usefull

[raven grotto]

#screenshots message

[leaden turret]

build more pipe, problem solved

[mortal ginkgo]

nope, you will enjoy mk2 pipe forever

[main basin]

but then thats too many pipes :(

[leaden turret]

package all the things, problem solved

[main basin]

damn it

[mystic urchin]

Try sliding

If you slide you can fit under more stuff than just by crouching

[raven grotto]

oh shit didnt even think of that ty

[main basin]

mmm yes that would prob take more space then more pipes im ngl lmao

[raven grotto]

i need me this mercer sphere 30/s is NOT it

[leaden turret]

see also trucks, trains, drones

[earnest condor]

That will last until you take a Rebar to the Knee.

[main basin]

they cant carry fluids can they?

[earnest condor]

2 of them can.

[raven grotto]

havent even researched rebar yet lol

[leaden turret]

don't think drones can, but the others can

[mystic sonnet]

hey guys, can you suggest me satisfactory Youtubers that do lets plays? I only know totalxclipse

[leaden turret]

#streams-and-videos

[ebon marten]

ImKibitz

[mystic sonnet]

I think he skips the best parts

[ebon marten]

hes done like 4/5 full playthoughs of the game over the years, he doesnt leave out the best parts

[mystic sonnet]

I think I watched is lets play, he does something, then cuts the video, and the bam the build is done

[compact knot]

watch smerkin 5000 he doesnt cut anything 🙂

[mortal ginkgo]

He jumps A LOT with his "boops". So what may take weeks for you to make is instant in the video.

Just keep that in mind and enjoy the show. He is an entertainer. Its his job to remove "meh stuff".

[mystic sonnet]

Ah yeah, thats why I skipped his lets play, I want to learn not entertain 😄

[reef basin]

honestly, I wouldn't recommend watching anything to learn (maybe decoration stuff)

[ebon marten]

if you want to watch every tiny little detail of the game play it yourself, like i said, hes done a lot of playthroughs over the years and doesnt make a 45 min video just making a single factory. he doesnt show the process of adding every tiny detail in a building

[compact knot]

smerkin teches the game great for beginners and mid game palyers

[mortal ginkgo]

He isn't exactly there to teach people. He is really good at the game but things he does is sometimes questionable and can often lead to massive issues if done wrong.

Again, his game is for entertainment.

Still a good guy ofc. I like his content. Goofy as heck.

[hexed phoenix]

I won't recommend Let's Game It Out for learning - Unless you want to learn all the odd ends of the game :D

[mystic sonnet]

no no no, i just watch it to see how people build

I watched a data engineer guys building a factory, that really added things to my understanding

[compact knot]

smerkin is an engineer

[mystic sonnet]

Nice me too

[compact knot]

engineeringcoffee is an engineer also but i dont think he does satisfactory

[runic musk]

https://imgur.com/a/U6eHfcn

How do i get rotors beffore the assembler ?

and for some reason some parts of the game is in my mother language insted of english, cant seem to swtich it out ...

[raven grotto]

spent almost an hour getting 12 mercer spheres..

[leaden turret]

reminder: imgur blocks the uk, and we have plenty of screenshot-enabled channels

[robust wigeon]

Look in #design-and-architecture and #screenshots and be aware there is more than one way to build

My first world: #screenshots message
My latest world: #screenshots message

[ivory wharf]

Yo I have no idea w the lore

So what are these dumbahh mercer balls yapping about?

[earnest condor]

Nothing. It's leftovers from when a more in-depth story was planned afaik.

[ivory wharf]

They're keep calling humanity pathetic. I see oil but I see no freedom and liberty, that's ehat I call pathetic

[earnest condor]

In addition to oil, the game also has bacon.
So let freedom ring!

[ivory wharf]

Peak, sub 3 aliens calling us pathetic while I bring liberty to their oil

I wouldn't let an alien takeover my planet and refine my oil, they're coping hard

[earnest condor]

Show them the error of their ways.

[ivory wharf]

Everything is almost done, all I need is to start Harley Davidson in this planet and aliens can keep crying

[hard wolf]

aliens with the feedom of the 4th dimension that aren't bound to the restrictions of our plain of existence :P

[ivory wharf]

Imagine needing another dimension to be free

I would colonize that dimension too anyway

[hard wolf]

need is the wrong word. they're cool because they have that, but they aren't better than us and we aren't better than them

[ivory wharf]

If they got no v8 powered motorcycles, they should cope harder to call themselves free

I see no highways, I see no tacobell, I see no wallmart around

[hard wolf]

you don't know what they have 😛

[ivory wharf]

I don't need to, they would be around if they had it

[hard wolf]

but they're not here, they're there

[orchid grove]

If they don't have the mandated McDonald's, Taco Bell, and Dunkin within 10 miles of them at all times then they are not a real society

[ivory wharf]

Still doesn't change the fact their oil is being burned is my plants.

I bet you vote for zibzob-harris

[hard wolf]

what if they're laughing at you for being a lower level lifeform that still needs oil for power?

[ivory wharf]

Imagine not using oil and calling yourself higher

[hard wolf]

easy

[earnest condor]

+Starbucks

[compact swift]

Just found an ||extensive cave system|| where the critical ores are, explains why I could never find any when I checked on the surface.

[ivory wharf]

Y'all keep forgetting Harvey's and local cowboy bars

[earnest condor]

What is a "critical ore"?

Also the cave in the Rocky Desert is ||not a spoiler.||

[ivory wharf]

Okay now I will go have a breakfast and I will spend my next two hours building a massive Costco and Walmart next to eachother at the spawn

Show em what's freedom like

[raven grotto]

alright i think im done with phase two how many versitile framework/m do i make it

[earnest condor]

0. Just bulk produce from somer'd machine 🙂

Wow. I said "0." but Discord auto-changes that to "1." 😄

[raven grotto]

i cant research somer

or amplification

[earnest condor]

Because?

[raven grotto]

plastic

need those high speed connectors or computers one of the two

[earnest condor]

Go find some lying on the ground. I believe in you.

[raven grotto]

ahhhh

oh SCIM where are the crash sites?

also do i need plastic to make them I presume

[earnest condor]

To make what?

[raven grotto]

oh my god

im an idiot

i need circut boards and i somehow have an alternate recipie for them?

but its locked?

[earnest condor]

If you're in P2, you cannot make them.

[raven grotto]

so i have to find some then

i see now

[earnest condor]

1.2 lets you see some of the alternates available to roll for without actually having them unlocked.

[raven grotto]

ohhhh ok

yoo my first rain storm

peak satisfactory

[earnest condor]

Rain maxing.

[worthy python]

Is 360 rods and 480 plates good?

Per min

[mystic sonnet]

I got jumpscared by the first one

[reef basin]

good for what?

[worthy python]

In general coz i can show ya what i did

[reef basin]

in general it's good for having 360 rods and 480 plates

[worthy python]

#design-and-architecture message

[wet iris]

do I need smart splitters for manifolds? (v1.1)

[reef basin]

again, it's good for having that many resources, but that's about it

[reef basin]

you never needed them

[compact swift]

Just posted suggestions about tweaks to the map, that is the map feature:
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/6a1495cbb4a0d61847273c4e

[mystic sonnet]

Usually no

If you produce more than you use, you can use a smart splitter to send the overflow to a sink

or you can make it such that it first fills a depot, then when the depot belt gets full, the overflow sent to sink

[reef basin]

never

[mystic sonnet]

What I mean is they are useful

[reef basin]

I didn't say they aren't

[raven grotto]

no rain sfx?

awe man

[mortal ginkgo]

there is.

Rain is wonky still.. this patch is being kinda rushed so expect some anomalities.

sometimes there is sound but no rain, rain visuals but no raindrops etc

[abstract locust]

I have a question regarding trains, stations and loading specifically. So i have a oil outpost with onsite processing (plastic and rubber) are the two things im looking at exporting as of right now. I have one train station set up, with 8 loading platforms. Can i set a filter on a train somehow to only pick up certain items? aswell as maybe being able to lock inventory slots on the platforms for a 50/50 rubber plastic split kinda like factorios trains

[raven grotto]

oh its just REALLY quiet i see

[reef basin]

one item type per car

[abstract locust]

yes thats what i want, i have not touched trains what so ever is there a way to set filters on the car to only pick up plastic for example? or will it pick up a whole car of whatever item is at the platform? but i would really like a way to split the platforms storage 50/50 with each item if theres maybe a mod or something or an in game feature im missing

[echo lion]

I am planning to build a massive new factory and am currently working on the layout. I am wondering if a versatile framework is something to keep in production at all? I've finished the phase a long time ago.

[reef basin]

the car will pick whatever is in the platform
afaik you can filter which item types are picked on the train schedule UI

[reef basin]

if you finished all the phases, then any production is "do you want it?"

[abstract locust]

so if i have a train with 8 cars but i only tell it to pick up rubber it will only take the platforms with rubber if 4 of the 8 platforms are rubber and the other 4 are plastic?

[echo lion]

I am on phase 4 now

[reef basin]

possibly

why not test it?

[abstract locust]

because you’re assisting me so why not ask

[reef basin]

much better to learn on your own by experimenting and stuff

[green fiber]

also its hard to say if something will work at some point

i could go "yes absolutely" and then when you try it it doesnt work

[barren cave]

Since when has this game had a rain

[green fiber]

since 1.2 (again)

it had rain before 1.0 at some point

[abstract locust]

for your perhaps, I was unable to find a solution to my question that is why I asked discord, when you answered my message that started off with “i have a question” you kinda insinuated you wanted to help

[abstract locust]

Many different ways to learn my friend that is why schools offer so many different methods of education and why teachers are trained to explain in many different ways

[reef basin]

well I answered all I could, hence why I told you to go check it out

[abstract locust]

gotchya

[vapid nexus]

are mk2 pipes broken? i cant get them balanced to constantly pump 600m³ into my reactors, no matter what i do.

[winter swallow]

is there a way to light a hallway without those giant ceiling lights?

[reef basin]

no, it's almost always a player issue

[vapid nexus]

i really tried a lot of things

[reef basin]

looping the pipe?

[vapid nexus]

its just one output though

[reef basin]

I mean the input manifold

or is it 1:1?

[barren cave]

Introduced for the first time in Experimental Update 6 and removed in Experimental Update 8

[vapid nexus]

2 extractors into a single overclocked reactor that takes 600m³

[green fiber]

one output doesnt matter, you have an input junction most likely

use mk 1 pipes out of the extractors up until the junction, then go with mk 2 pipe

and definitely make sure you are not exceeding head lift

[unreal fulcrum]

What does the Pioneer role mean and how do you get it?

[reef basin]

you don't get it by any standard means, basically just "someone helpful to community"

[unreal fulcrum]

They should add that to the FaQ

I’ve looked around for info on the rule

[reef basin]

it is in #welcome

[true mulch]

It says "not quite lead pioneers"

[winter swallow]

?

[unreal fulcrum]

Thanks

[true mulch]

The 4 lights are all there is
If you're using Lumen, you can try using signs

[winter swallow]

how do i put signs flat on the ceiling?

[true mulch]

Try searching for a Steam guide on the matter, or ask in #design-and-architecture (I don't know that much)

[green fiber]

hmm i managed to pull that off recently, but dont remember how exactly

[vapid nexus]

changed that now, but i still run out periodically

[green fiber]

do the water extractors keep filling up with water

are there any valves or buffers on the pipe to the nuclear power plant?

[vapid nexus]

nope

[vapid nexus]

nope

[raven grotto]

14 blue slugs, 6 yellow, 6 purp, now i can refine them in a soomersloop constructer

[green fiber]

if the extractors dont fill up then you either arent making enough or using too much
or the pipe hasnt had time to fill completely

[raven grotto]

what is that 28, 12, and 60 shards respectively?

[green fiber]

there is no bug that can make fluid magically disappear as of the current game version

[vapid nexus]

omfg as i build them, i had ran out of power shards in my inventory so they werent overclocked

thanks for the help though

[green fiber]

aaah there we go

[vapid nexus]

that explains why it was only one row of reactors turning off

[raven grotto]

just unlocked inventory dimensional depot during phase 2 omg my inventory is pretty much infinite now

[latent prawn]

there's still a few items that you'll find you don't have enough of - concrete when laying a lot of foundation, and if building power storage in bulk, you'll run dry on wire and mod frames pretty quickly

[violet glen]

Just make 10 uploaders feeding concrete into the depot

[raven grotto]

i have like two storage containers full of concrete pretty much the only thing limiting me right now is upload speed

[raven grotto]

but thats 10 mercer spheres which take me forever to get

[violet glen]

There's an absolute ton of them in the world

[latent prawn]

yeah, doubling/trippling up the depots on certain items is good to do

[raven grotto]

my first goal right now is to try and upgrade them as much as possible

[violet glen]

Sloops are super limited, but sphere are virtually unlimited for any normal use

[latent prawn]

i think i have around 10 on concrete, lol

[raven grotto]

but that takes almost 100 spheres

[violet glen]

no?

It takes exactly 10

[white dawn]

Leaving you with about 200 for use on Depots

[raven grotto]

to upgrade them to the max in the MAM

[violet glen]

ah that, yeah

but still more than plenty left to build uploaders

[raven grotto]

if im not wrong its like 201

[white dawn]

But yeah, spheres are effectively infinite

[latent prawn]

if i added correctly, you need 98 spheres for all the mam research

*includes one for SPWN

[raven grotto]

basic iron ingots way better than molded beam fs

[pulsar hazel]

where can i find the big document about pipes?

[latent prawn]

its in the channel pins

[pulsar hazel]

where?

[hard wolf]

pure iron ingots goes super hard, as well as solid steel ingot, and I'm using wet concrete and molded beams to make 675 beams and 800 concrete/m fed into 4 (or possibly 5 depots now) with 4 ISC's each so that I can build this highway xwx

[latent prawn]

sorry, in the math&meta channel pins, lol https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/obqjrd/ficsit_pipeline_plumbing_manual_first_edition/

[raven grotto]

hey if i were to double somersloop 5 assemblers how much powa would that take

[latent prawn]

4x

[raven grotto]

300 mw is not terrible

not great not bad

just like 3.6 rontgen

especially because i would only have to wait 20 minutes instead of 50

[neon summit]

Did someone say rontgen?

[green fiber]

Radiation nerds:

**☢️ R Ö N T G E N ? ☢️ **

[neon summit]

Ermm actually I'm more of a "nuclear everything" nerd🤓 ☝️

[raven grotto]

who wants to build a graphite moderated RBMK reactor with me

[neon summit]

ME ME ME!

[green fiber]

Im gonna hit you with my Sievert beam

[raven grotto]

okay! just dont put it in a xenon pit and pull out 98% of the control rods!

[neon summit]

It's like it was made in heaven cause a sievert is VERY close to my name

[neon summit]

;)

[reef basin]

how do you compare two completely different recipes like that?

[raven grotto]

"does molded beam or basic iron ingots seem more useful for me atm and/or later down the line" thats what went through my head

[reef basin]

oh, so "better for one specific goal for one specific player" 🙂

[raven grotto]

yea, anyway i have an industrial storage container full of steel backed up into the constructer

[ivory bluff]

Hmmm... Is the pure caterium ingot alt recipe worth it? Seems like a lot of set-up and energy for not that big of a gain and slower output by default.

(Unless the caterium needs become that much more important later on)

[broken star]

how many gb ram should i buy for a satisfactory server and how many days? this should be for 2-3 people

[green fiber]

its 50% more Caterium ingots per ore

[leaden turret]

pure caterium is useful if you have more wets than drys 😛

[worn oar]

All pure recipes do is make the most out of your ore. They require more power, machines, and water as a trade-off.

[leaden turret]

-# your ore is not a phrase I want to say out loud

-# yourourourour

[tall lantern]

yourore-a borealis

[worn oar]

The only direct upgrade alts in this game are heavy encased frame, cast screw, solid steel ingot, and copper rotor. And those can be bad too if you set up in a specific way. Everything else has a tradeoff.

[leaden turret]

-# your ore oar or oar ore or you're ore oar etceteror

[supple canopy]

it really depends on gameplay but in general, it's better to think of recipes by taking out the time variable
e.g
base recipe is 3 raw => 1 ingot
pure is 2 raw => 1 ingot
leeched is 1.5 raw => 1 ingot

Unless you have a very specific factory design and it's imperative that you save on machine numbers of course

(I don't always follow that rule, bolted iron frame is a godsend, I'm tired of needing 67 assemblers everytime I need reinforced iron plates)

[supple canopy]

automated miner be like 💀

[worn oar]

I mean technically it's not an alt is it. Just a recipe.

[supple canopy]

hard debate

[worn oar]

If you want to handcraft all portable miners be my guest. I'd rather let the DD handle it

[leaden turret]

there is no other automation recipe for portable miner, therefore not an alt™ but still an alternative means of making them

[normal orbit]

it is an alt since its from harddrive scanning :p

[supple canopy]

oh no I use automated miner, my point is from a purist POV it's an alt, but I totally get not considering it an alt as it's the only way to automate them

[mortal ginkgo]

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY TRAIN STATIONS ARE SO CHUNGUS AND SO CHONKY LIKE DEAR GOD

[normal orbit]

size matters :p

[mortal ginkgo]

ATHCHUALLY BROTHERMAN 🤓

[worn oar]

They believe in health at any size

[mortal ginkgo]

You guys are aint helping.

God this is such a TOXIC Community.

What is this, Green Stinger meeting? Dear Lord.

[ebon marten]

they need a lot of space for the storage, because of the size of the train and the internal power logistics

[mortal ginkgo]

Please stop defeating me with facts and logic its 11pm here

[supple canopy]

skill issue, mine's smaller than yours #screenshots message

[worn oar]

Why is that station outside of the mountain? Don't you believe in compact factories?

[supple canopy]

which mountain?

[leaden turret]

-# 🧙🏔️

[rapid briar]

what new things are going to be in 1.2

[leaden turret]

#announcements

[raven grotto]

apple music works with discord this is peak\

[south crow]

I just wasted so much time expandeing my 8 Machine big Biofuel Power Unit into a 16 Machine Perfect Load Balancing Mega Power Plant beeing the first Factory not standing in constant sunlight after my fuse blew when starting the production of smart plating, 15 Minutes after finishing i finished Tier one of Project Assembly💀 (Picture in #screenshots )

[fierce matrix]

how does load balancing work, i have to balance 10 belts of 455 ingots and 10 belts of 436.428 ingots

[raven grotto]

like a 10:10 ratio right

[leaden turret]

1. do math
2. go crazy

[fierce matrix]

meth?

[raven grotto]

3. Find a blueprint

[quick hound]

It’s Limestone! Hey! What’s up man!

[quick hound]

are we allowed to say drugs here??

[mortal ginkgo]

Hey there silly nether big dawg 100% unhinged manly power, whatcha doin?

[fierce matrix]

will find out now

[raven grotto]

are there even impure limestone nodes ive only seen pure

[reef basin]

ideally you don't loadbalance

you just hook each belt to the amount it can feed

[leaden turret]

caffeine coffee stain studios

[normal orbit]

X -> Y balancers = split each belt of X into Y times, Merges one belt from each X so you have Y amount of belts.

[quick hound]

I’m only asking cause I don’t wanna get banned again.. haha..

[quick hound]

I finished making cluster and nuke bomb factory

Though I gotta do some fixing yk..

[south crow]

Although i have to say exactly this plant finally completely pulled me into the satisfactory loop

[mortal ginkgo]

holy progress 100%. me personally finished first dilluted fuel factory : #screenshots message

[quick hound]

8 hours and my bottleneck is not being able to use up all my HOR

[quick hound]

did I mention my factory is currently being run by Factory carts?

[mortal ginkgo]

BROOOOOOOOOWWWW

BIG DAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWG

[quick hound]

And I know 1.2 is gonna break it cause the paths go into narrow spaces

So thank god I didn’t make the actual bomb factory on my actual save, just my meme one. My actual one uses conveyers

[mortal ginkgo]

carts can share one foundation (or can even get closer)

Also old paths just get converted so if you dont wanna touch them, simply dont

[fierce matrix]

hor?

[quick hound]

Yeah.. but they run on like half of a foundation, around 40 of them

[quick hound]

Heavy Oil Residue

[fierce matrix]

ooo

[quick hound]

Byproduct of polymer resin, or vice versa

[normal orbit]

just turn it to fuel and burn it?

[quick hound]

The one that is run by factory carts took around 72 hours. 48 to build the main thing, then the rest to wanting to kill myself pathing all of the carts

[raven grotto]

how big of a difference is TN and IPS

[mortal ginkgo]

I hope you get a medal man

[quick hound]

I could, but I like to turn it into the packaged variant to sink it

If my math is right, around 24k/m

Everything is over clocked and slooped on my main save because I bugged things out and now have like 85000.sloops

ALL PS5 BTW

!hor

[normal orbit]

pretty big, IPS has much better colors, clarity and viewing angles. TN is "faster" but only matters if you want 300+hz

[quick hound]

so now I gotta deal with a lot of damn HOR and I can’t read the orange text on the white background 😭

[glacial totem]

Can you actually merge two railway tracks into one station? I just saw it on reddit just now. Seems better than building two stations at every stop

[quick hound]

So I have zero clue how much HOR is being made

[glacial totem]

I'm on mobile otherwise I'd post the screenshot

[reef basin]

you can build railway junctions anywhere

[quick hound]

Hey! It’s Greeny! How are ya doing man?

[normal orbit]

of course you can, why wouldnt you?

[glacial totem]

how though? Is it it's own piece in the menu?

[reef basin]

just snap it to the middle of existing rail

[glacial totem]

Well when I was asking on here last time, I was told not to 😃

And I listen to advice from here

[normal orbit]

its not a good idea to mix diffrent cargos into same platform, but you can absolutely do multiple traisn into same station, just block off and reserve platforms for each

[supple canopy]

it depends how many trains you're trying to cramp in that station, the more, the less max throughput you can crank out of it

[glacial totem]

I only use trains for transporting myself (for now)

I'm not good enough at the game for transporting cargo

[supple canopy]

oh then yea I had a shuttle system with 8 different trains all using the same stations

[glacial totem]

wow ok.

[glacial totem]

You just set it on a timetable? And then sit at the station and wait for it like in real life?

[supple canopy]

if you automate several trains on a shared track you'll have to use signals though

[supple canopy]

exactly

[glacial totem]

that's so wholesome 😃

[supple canopy]

yea loved it. I had to scrap it because there was one particular intersection I half-assed and it messed with my important cargo trains, but i'll rebuild a dedicated expressway for pioneer transportation 😄

[glacial totem]

I've spent ages blueprinting a double wide road for two train tracks so I'm a little annoyed I didn't know. Because I went to build a station on each side and thought hang on, this can't be right

maybe I can use the other side of the road for belts or hyper tubes, who knows

[supple canopy]

double track is good, even just for a shuttle system, you can have shuttles going both ways. If you have a worldwide system, if you're in the green field and you want to go to the swamp for instance, it's good to be able not to go all the way through the desert and canyon

so you can delete all your station on one side, and make intersections/roundabouts to connect the leftover track to the remaining station

[glacial totem]

When you're driving the train manually, how do you direct it on a railroad fork? just using the WASD?

[supple canopy]

yes, like a few meters in advance. Although on a triple fork I don't know if it's possible to go straight manually

[glacial totem]

ok thanks

will try after work

[elfin relic]

So i have tried to make my first launcher with hypertubes but how do i stay inside the loop before it launches me?

[restive umbra]

Factory

[elfin relic]

I keep getting launched out the end instead of going thou thge loop again

[eager glen]

I normally just do straight lines since it's easier, but I think most loop designs have you mash E to stay in, then stop to launch.

Since if it was the other way round you could get trapped going too fast to leave

[elfin relic]

Nothing happenes when i spam e

[ivory bluff]

Thought I had pure caterium recipe... Nope. I have all pure ingot recipes except this one (and pure quartz and pure (well, wet) concrete)

[warped crane]

I hope we get some end-game DLC at some point 🙁

such a shame my factory has no use by the time the game is done

[ivory bluff]

I think the team is planning something, but for now priority remains fixing other stuff (such as vehicules in 1.2). No real word about an expac yet IIRC.

[eager glen]

Does anyone have any advice on making small power poles look good? It's not a long distance, mostly to power a couple of truck stations and nearby miners.

[ivory bluff]

Phew. Done. All pure/wet recipes gotten. That ought to change a few things.

[earnest condor]

Oh? 👀

The only Pure/Wet I personally use is Caterium.

[ivory bluff]

Iron, copper, caterium, concrete, quartz. Last one probably unnecessary, but well the other choice was bio charcoal and I already rerolled it.

[earnest condor]

Biocoal is actually insane if you have somers.

1 alien remains = 960 coal.

[ivory bluff]

Nothing a miner can't handle automatically.

[earnest condor]

Yes, but it's fun 😄

[ivory bluff]

And no manual labor.

Heh, subjective, but I get the appeal.

960 coal for 1 alien remain is a lot.

[earnest condor]

Runs a coal gen for just over an hour.

[ivory bluff]

I guess it has its uses if you want to make coal generators without actual coal mines.

[frozen ingot]

good for restricted runs like that guy who started in the swamp (which doesn't have coal!)

[earnest condor]

Also can make on-demand Black Powder/Compacted if you just find a lone sulfur node.

[ivory bluff]

Lol... New DD gave me Fused Wire and Bio Charcoal. I don't think I'll need the first one (I have Caterium Wire) nor the second one.

[earnest condor]

The new Dune Desert gave you recipes?

[ivory bluff]

HD*

My bad, french shenanigans (DD = disque dur = HD = Hard drive)

[frozen ingot]

fused quickwire is great for resource efficiency iirc

oh, is there a fused wire as well?

[earnest condor]

Fused Wire exists but honestly I don't recommend it personally.

[ivory bluff]

Fused Wire yeah. But when you have Caterium Wire it's probably not needed (unless you are really in a caterium deficit)

[earnest condor]

Caterium Wire is sooo goood.

[ivory bluff]

Anyhow... Probably will stop now, but I'll make my Caterium mines soon-ish. Then trains, then actual factories.

And probably not reroll HD until next tier?

[earnest condor]

Or just choose one.

There are more drives than alts.

[warped crane]

now that I'm halfway through phase 5, I kind of just want to restart a new game with higher elevator costs 🫤

[frozen ingot]

yeah i'm considering doing that as well

[earnest condor]

DO IT

As someone running on 100x, I genuinely recommend 50x.

[ivory bluff]

rofl

[frozen ingot]

10x would be more tha nenough for me i think 😄

[warped crane]

50x seems scary when you get to phase 5

50k nuclear pasta?

[ivory bluff]

Well, I'm waiting for the 1.2 release. I don't see myself starting from scratch though... and I guess we can't change the elevator costs midplaythrough.

Still need to complete phase 3.

[zenith quartz]

how do i break the rock on top of a node

i dont have a pickaxe or anything like that yet

am like phase1, tier 3

[reef basin]

you'll unlock thing to break it at some point in the game

if you mean the big cracked boulder

[frozen ingot]

check out the M.A.M. if you haven't already

[reef basin]

not the small deposit

[zenith quartz]

yes big cracked boulder

[reef basin]

basically "ignore if can't break, can break in the future"

[zenith quartz]

i did chekc out the mam but ig i dont have it yet

[frozen ingot]

the M.A.M. should contain a clue but don't worry about it if not, it should reveal itself. Don't want to spoil it for ya 😉

[reef basin]

yeah just play the game, you'll get there

[raven grotto]

whats our favorite song

[zenith quartz]

our?

[marble notch]

get sulfur

[raven grotto]

our as in everyone as in we all

[zenith quartz]

we all love tiki tiki that phonk tiktok song

betting on everyone's soul right here am saying the truth

[robust wigeon]

you can’t yet, but:

||check the MAM||
||find a new resource to unlock the tab in the MAM containing what you need||
||that resource is sulfur||
||you need to progress to phase 2||
||more specifically, you need steel||
||it’s called|| ||Nobelisk|| ||and|| ||it’s an explosive||

[marble notch]

i'm too much of a music nerd to pick one, but right now i'm really into Fontaines D.C. especially their first album and the song Roy's Tune

[raven grotto]

im hooked on Six Minutes by Stoopi rn and that whole unspoken word album, its so good

[marble notch]

ah, ive never really been into metal but that sounds cool, i'll give it a listen

[mystic urchin]

Wait, ADA has voicelines for when you kill peaceful creatures??

[raven grotto]

I like the transitions from regular singing to the screaming, and the fact that the screaming is minimal since its not my favorite parts but it is good

[marble notch]

yeah i could never get into screamy metal

this song is good though!

[raven grotto]

i literally stumbled upon the band one day by going to i think limp bizkit or number one son, going to the reccomended bands at the bottom then stoopi then listened to the whole album

[earnest condor]

I have all the lizard ones. But they seem to have added ones for killing the steves as well.

[mystic urchin]

The hell is a steve

[earnest condor]

[mystic urchin]

So Bean

[raven grotto]

felt more like a bob to me

[earnest condor]

Their official name is steve.

As noted by the name of the emote.

[mystic urchin]

I killed it because it was in the way and was too stupid to run away
ADA said she liked me better before I did that

[normal orbit]

i'm just thinking of "Steve med Lloyden" :p when i see steve

[ivory bluff]

Le poisson Steve™

[mystic urchin]

There is only one Steve the name reminds me of
[Insert "I am Steve" gif]

[raven grotto]

so is roys tune, like the flow

man now that im bored of game sounds its really just giving me an excuse to listen to music

[abstract heron]

oooooo

19,732 hrs on record ooo and 268hrs left to go

[mystic urchin]

You have 20 THOUSAND hours???

[abstract heron]

soonish

[mystic urchin]

How in the fuck

[green fiber]

im barely scratching 3500 h

[abstract heron]

268hrs left to go before 20k hrs

[raven grotto]

yu guys have over 100?

[green fiber]

ive been playing since EA in 2019

[raven grotto]

granted im only on phase 2 of my first ever game with less than a week in and im at 50

[abstract heron]

i been playing since steam release june 8th 2020

[mystic urchin]

The game came out 53k hours ago on Steam
That means this man has done NOTHING but play Satisfactory for the past 6 years

[earnest condor]

There are a lot of people who just leave it running afk while they go sleep/work/other stuff.

[mystic urchin]

That has to be top 10 nolifers out there of all time any game

[abstract heron]

i don't afk

[mystic urchin]

What's the point leaving the game on

[earnest condor]

Sink points? Don't ask me 🤷‍♂️

[green fiber]

some people treat this as an idler game sometimes

[supple canopy]

depends on your energy plan

[abstract heron]

why do people think my hrs are AFK and such

[thick river]

hmm i wonder why

[supple canopy]

because those numbers are absolutely tremendous

[abstract heron]

i don't afk anything in game

[limber helm]

Hey guys, I've a question. Last time when I was playing satisfactory with my friend, he sent me screenshot from MAM research where I noticed he had 10k items in every research requirement (including hard drives), and he could unlock any recipe instantly. Can I be 1000% sure he was cheating? I know he was cheating in a lot of games in the past

[mystic urchin]

You would have to play 9 hours on average EVERY SINGLE DAY since it came out to get that high numbers

Honest question, do you have a life? School? Job?

[reef basin]

there's a creative mode/advanced game settings menu directly in the game

[abstract heron]

i have my ways

[limber helm]

can u edit it without reloading save?

[reef basin]

if AGS/creative is enabled, yes

[limber helm]

cause when i ask him for screenshare he turned it off and items had normal values again

[reef basin]

not sure wdym by "items had normal values"

[limber helm]

from 10k items to 0

[reef basin]

wdym by "value"

[limber helm]

amount

my bad

[reef basin]

could just store them in a box

[limber helm]

10 k hard drives??

i mean, it's not even possible to obtain them in one world without cheating or using commands/creative mode

[reef basin]

why are you asking us though? hard to say if he got a mod, or enabled creative, or edited a save

[limber helm]

just want to be sure it wasn't any glitch, to be sure he did that on purpose

[reef basin]

afaik there are even duplication glitches in the game

[raven grotto]

boutta go find like 8 somersloops so i dont have to wait 50 minutes for 1,000 versitile framework

[worn oar]

Once you get addicted to somersloops you'll never want to go back. It's a slippery slope 😏

[normal orbit]

you can edit stacks to above their normal values with scim, they kinda break if you try drag and move em or click them tho

[worn oar]

Why give yourself free stuff when you can make a factory to produce that stuff

[worn oar]

He was using wemod, a game mod, or AGS cheats

There are only 118 hard drives unless you buy from the awesome shop

[reef basin]

or just automate more

[raven grotto]

why do that when i can just double my output

[worn oar]

#satisfactory message

[raven grotto]

oh shii

[reef basin]

why not do that when that can also increase your output

[raven grotto]

i mean i am going to immediately destroy the setup

[reef basin]

why tho

[worn oar]

Wait wait there's a compromise we're not mentioning: slooping while you build a factory to double the output, then using the sloops for something else 🙂‍↕️

[raven grotto]

moving to a better location for expansion and ✨ Aesthetics ✨

[ivory bluff]

So: thoughts on the Cartographer mod? Also, if I end up using it,better to wait a bit after 1.2 releases for eventual compatibility issues?

[raven grotto]

i did just make over 100 power shards with 14 blue, 8 yellow, and 5 purp slugs tho

[ivory bluff]

On another note: ... Oh boy I'm gonna need so many trains stations...

[fathom zinc]

if i have a backlog of coal on a mk2 will it disapear eventualy if whats outputting the coal is a mk1 drill?

[earnest condor]

Nothing disappears unless you drag it to the trash or sink it.

[green fiber]

if the mk1 miner isnt outputting enough and whatever uses the coal is being eaten faster than that....
it will all be eated

[reef basin]

can just build in new location and keep the old one

[fathom zinc]

nice, didn't wanna dela with that

[normal orbit]

the internal storage on miner will fill up if the belt can't keep up and the miner will stop until it can mine more

[wild phoenix]

You should be able to power shard the elevator

[wild phoenix]

Eaten

[green fiber]

Thank you ULTRA EVIL Grammar police

[supple canopy]

dope suggestion. What would slooping an elevator do?

[green fiber]

You should be able to power shart in the toilet

[frozen ingot]

or overclock hypertube entrances 🤔 👀

[wild phoenix]

I have things to do places to be factories to turn into spaghetti why is the elevator so slow

I should be able to 250% overclock it ong ong

[frozen ingot]

the elevator is plenty fast enough. T'is the factories that must be faster, larger, better 😛

[wild phoenix]

Nuh uh it’s slow

I need to be past the monstrosity faster

[green fiber]

overclock yourself

[frozen ingot]

yes! 😆 that's the true goal

[glossy violet]

am i going crazy that there isnt a Foundation (1m) Concrete icon for blueprint organization.
ok after careful looking its named "N/A" rather than its actual name.
Coated Concrete 2m and 4m also have identical icons. never modded my game so idk

[frozen ingot]

pretty sure there is

[wild phoenix]

See that’s called adhd and red bull and it’s a terrible mix

[fathom zinc]

I just managed to get half my coal electric central running!

[hard wolf]

drink 4 5 hour energies to get 20 consecutive hours of energy /j

[fathom zinc]

Drink 5 to unlock the 25th hour of the day

[compact flicker]

What if I drink a 6th

[hard wolf]

I'm pretty sure at that point time stops like in Futurama when Fry drank 100 cups of coffee

[worn oar]

The 10x engineer is the one who consumes the most caffeine without dying

My lawyer has advised me to state this is a joke

[quick hound]

Well my lawyer is my dog.

[raven grotto]

for being a desert it sure rains a lot

[unkempt blade]

That's pretty cool. Is he accepting new clients? I need to get some cart speeding tickets taken care of

[raven grotto]

all bro talks about is factory carts

[wild phoenix]

Mine is a cat

[wild phoenix]

They lower GPU temps

Hey could I get a factory cart inside an elevator

[quick hound]

Sadly no.

[unkempt blade]

yeah they work great in elevators

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'm a serious, focused ficsit employee and I prioritize the important stuff

[raven grotto]

bro got bribed by ADA

[unreal fulcrum]

@woven sail Quick question: why was my post in #fan-art removed?

Did it not count as art?

[unkempt blade]

you should go make a factory cart skate park

[raven grotto]

was it because it was too good?

had to make sure everyone was included equally?

[unreal fulcrum]

It was just a YouTube short I made

I’ve seen other YouTube videos posted there and they got to stay up

Maybe it wasn’t artsy enough?

[woven sail]

you posted a link, not a image.

[unreal fulcrum]

Huh? I’ve seen other links posted there before

[woven sail]

The bot auto removes all posts in that channel that doesn't contain a image

[unkempt blade]

yeah that's why I got kicked out of IHOP last night

[unreal fulcrum]

Thanks for the answer

[unkempt blade]

was it a video of factoy carts?

[raven grotto]

brother why do i need 22 foundrys for 25/m versitile framework

[unreal fulcrum]

Yes trust

[worn oar]

Nice starter build

[unkempt blade]

probably because not enough refineries

[raven grotto]

refineries

[restive umbra]

Probably needs more factory carts

[raven grotto]

what

[restive umbra]

And refineries

[ornate saffron]

Was it satisfactory related, and kept to community guidelines?

[raven grotto]

oh i need 12 just to make iron thats why

[unreal fulcrum]

Of course

[raven grotto]

boutta do my first sushi belt with smart whatevers

[ornate saffron]

Then I dont know

Can't be worse then mine

#fan-art message

[rapid sedge]

modular frames and it's other frames are so annoying to make 😭

Oh well

[earnest condor]

How so?

[primal obsidian]

i remember when i tried sushi belts it did not go well and everything clogged

[raven grotto]

Did you have smart splitters

[primal obsidian]

yes

[raven grotto]

Interesting, how bout an overflow at the end

[primal obsidian]

i cant really remember

[raven grotto]

Because its input one, overflow to next, input two, overflow to next so on so forth then at the end you put an overflow to like a sink because its a game and numbers always have a chance to be wonky

Thats how i setup my foundries but i havent tested them yet so 🤷🏻‍♂️

[dense violet]

If you understand the basics sushi is really easy to do. But like most things in the game 'close enough' isn't good enough for a working system.
Most other systems will limp along if it's 'close enough' but sushi will often completely lock up

[dense violet]

what's the issue you're having?

[glacial totem]

I've got the huge urge to start a new save on 1.2 even though I'm not finished with my first playthrough

just would like to do things differently and try one of the other maps

[sharp compass]

anyone have any advice on collecting "all" (as much as possible) of the maps sombersloops and mercer spheres if im okay with using the online map

[earnest condor]

If you are ok with using the map, then the advice is "use map and collect all of them" no?

[sharp compass]

but with a bunch of caves its wasting a lot of time

is there some other strategy then just circling around the map?

[earnest condor]

The map shows you all the cave entrances though?

[placid hull]

Build the super magnet and it will draw them all

[dense violet]

mods. Cheat. Edit in a bunch of sloops.
but at that point you might a well use mods that just doubles everything you make

[quaint berry]

It’s all one big map, it’s just different starting locations on the same big map

But wanting to try new things is a perfectly cromulent reason to restart (or just do what I do and move to another place on the map where I can’t see my first mistakes while building, & keep the early builds around as an archive of what I’ve learned)

[raven grotto]

I actually watched a yt vid while I ate lunch today about different conveyor systems and architecture and i only got like halfway through, was pretty interesting and how i learned sushi

[hard wolf]

radar towers will show you how many spheres and sloops are within their range, but wont give a specific location. if your load your save into SCIM it'll show you what spheres and sloops you have and haven't picked up iirc

[dense violet]

... they are basically a monopoly. They create undue control over a market and if they refuse to platform a game they can sink companies.
They created a platform to skim money off other people's work and can demand just about any amount they want because of that power.

Its very much like Amazon. They create a platform then put their boots to people's necks after they gain market control

Very much like what Uber and all the other apps like that have done

[glacial totem]

By "map" I meant the desert

[raven grotto]

bruh

i cant do 25 vers frame/m unless i do two conveyors to my foundries

because max mk3 belts are 270/m and i need like 280/m

[cursive crane]

So get mk 4

[raven grotto]

im on phase 2...

[dense violet]

so use 2 belts

that's an extremely common thing you're going to need to be doing unless you specifically aim to build small

even with mk6 belts

[cursive crane]

So go to phase 3

[raven grotto]

i guess the hard part will be evening up the limestone bc i need 455/m

[dense violet]

You could use more efficient recipes?

[raven grotto]

oh great i didnt pause my game and come back to me dead

[dense violet]

resource efficient*

[raven grotto]

this is for basic iron ingot

[dense violet]

... I mean I guess. Could use pure Iron I guess

[raven grotto]

i would need more in iron alone if i went smelters

[dense violet]

I'd just find more iron. It's everywher e

[raven grotto]

20 smelters tho

oofta

[dense violet]

so very few?

I'm not saying that to make fun of you, but 24 smelters is something you're really going to want to get comfortable and treat basically as nothing

[raven grotto]

i dont have space built out for that yet

[compact knot]

run one belt to every nine smelters

[dense violet]

are you building in a cave?

[raven grotto]

im actually in dune desert BUT my current foundations are in the east coast of it so low expanability, im planning on going to phase 3 then move out into the dunes

[dense violet]

build multiple floors then.
Infinite space anywhere but a cave

so many people have to be booted in the butt to remember this is a 3d game

[raven grotto]

true and i dont care about asthetics rn...

hmm

[dense violet]

verticallity is extremely useful for factory management

gives you way more options on how to connect up sections of a factory

[minor rock]

Yeah my GPT agrees with that statement, map is tall as it is wide

[raven grotto]

so 569 iron ore/m is almost 3 mk3 miners on a pure node I presume...

[dense violet]

and multiple floors can look cool #design-and-architecture message

[dense violet]

well with mk3 belts it's 2 and a bit belts. so at least 3 nodes yes

you could always reduce it to 240

depends if that little bit extra is worth more than the work for a third node

[compact knot]

sounds like you need some power shards on that last node

[raven grotto]

well heres the thing, i only have mk2 so i will be using mk2s with shards then clock

[dense violet]

that wont help. They are belt limited

[raven grotto]

oh trust me shards are not a problem rn

i think i have 140?

forgot i died

[dense violet]

what are you tryign to make again?

[abstract heron]

hi cobalt

[raven grotto]

versitile framework for phase 2

i can do automated wiring with storage container and a single assembler so thats easy

[dense violet]

maybe this might help? could always toss in 'Basic Iron Ingot' https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=R1WIGFZ2ykuNVpbHpQl1

10 vers frame a minute is quite a bit and that plan only uses 206 iron ore pm

[raven grotto]

i was using SCIM but this might be better for my visualisation

[dense violet]

scim calc's UI isn't great
and the realistic view is garbage

[raven grotto]

I also have slop sloops or

[dense violet]

eh.. stick them at the end? I dont see the point in them

[raven grotto]

thats what I would do, producing 10 worth, getting 20

[raven grotto]

just realised i dont have iron wire or steel frame

is this an excuse to procrastinate and go to crash sites

[quick hound]

Hey, look guys! It’s 19700+ hours guy!

[raven grotto]

🐴

[quick hound]

yeah.. sorry. But I ate all the hard drives already

[abstract heron]

19,736 hrs on record

[raven grotto]

were they tasty?

[abstract heron]

btw also nether call me leo in here

not 19700+ guy

[quick hound]

yes

[dense violet]

they make SOME impact but aren't critical. But it's always worth going and getting recipes 🙂

[raven grotto]

fire

[quick hound]

okay John Satisfactory

[abstract heron]

I SAID I AM NOT JOHN

[raven grotto]

so im boutta get some coal, make my first explorer and explore

[abstract heron]

dis

[raven grotto]

green needle is that you?

[quick hound]

do you know know the meme? John Skyrim?

[abstract heron]

uh no

[ornate saffron]

It can run on biomass too. It has a built in crafting bench so you can make hard biomass on the go

[raven grotto]

oh i think i have some stockpiled like a lil but still

[quick hound]

… that’s what she- Nevermind

[quick hound]

oh hey wassup beefalo!

[raven grotto]

oh yk what i can do, i can keep alien protein on me

super easy biofuel

[quick hound]

sorry I ate the alien protein you had too..

[ornate saffron]

Heyo

[ornate saffron]

I like powering my death machines with the remains of my enemies

[quick hound]

I like blending up lizarddoggo doggos and using them as a power source

[ornate saffron]

Doggos are friends

[quick hound]

except my own lizard doggo. His name is Gecko and he good boy

[quick hound]

They can sometimes be friends, but also are great power source

[raven grotto]

this thing burns fuel like no other holy crap

[dense violet]

coal doesn't last long no if that's what you're using

[quick hound]

I would use petroleum coke.. but I’d snort it all before I got the chance to burn it..

[dense violet]

prob just use packaged fuel if you have access to oil at that point

a stack of coke doesn't last much longer than a stack of coal

[supple canopy]

#off-topic-media message
everytime I stumble upon one of your messages it's this dude

anything to add?

[dense violet]

people are allowed to like coke

many people love coke

[thick river]

satiscracktory

[ornate saffron]

I mostly drink coke

[dense violet]

This guy LOVES coke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLd9MZYQwy0

[hard wolf]

coke is my favorite cola. it's the harshest cola I've tried :3

[raven grotto]

is dr pepper a cola

[ornate saffron]

I could use a Ficsit Cola

[raven grotto]

then my FAVORITE cola is dr pepper

[ornate saffron]

Cola is caramel flavored

[ornate saffron]

DP is 52 flavours

[raven grotto]

alright then its coke

i hate pepsi

[ornate saffron]

Gotta be a caramel in there lol

[raven grotto]

specifically a very cold diet coke FROM THE CAN

ITS GOT ARTIFICIAL SWEETNERS MADE BY MAN, I KNOW IT HAS AN AFTERTASTE, I LIKE IT

[hard wolf]

my great grandfather always compared it to dishwater

[ornate saffron]

The explorer

[hard wolf]

I'm really happy for people who like alt sweeteners bc (as far as we know) they're a lot healthier, but I can't handle them. especially stevia. the aftertaste makes me go 😵‍💫

[hard wolf]

soda's definitely better out of a can than anything else imo xwx

[hard wolf]

the wheh? ?w?

[ornate saffron]

I was trying to get the convo back on the topic of satisfactory

I moved this to #off-topic-general ^~^

[hard wolf]

you're right. we need a VTOL with a boost button

[raven grotto]

i know people that are like "dude diet [insert pop here] is so bad for you i mean it has aspartame! how can you drink 1-2 cans/bottles in a single day" (i maybe have one every other day or so) as if you dont have to drink like 30 cans a day for a month in order to have a slight chance at getting any type disease or smth like that

and it always be the stupidest people I know

[knotty stag]

everyone is stupid in that regard. no matter what we look at or into, someone is stupid about something, it takes acceptance of this fact to realize

[ornate saffron]

I'd be happy with a lizard doggo side car

[dense violet]

afaik there hasn't been any thorough investigation of artificial sweetners like that. And the negatives can be things other than direct effects from the chemical

biology is weird enough that signals of sweetness in your body could make it react as if it was actually getting sugars and doing that consistently could possibly screw with your system. There's also at least some research done where it suggests your body goes into fat storing mode with them so it's not particularlly useful as a reduction of calorie intake

[raven grotto]

in all honesty, i grew up drinking diet because if i drank full sugar even a can would mess me up so i never drank full sugar, and i would get hot and uncomfortable so i tend to try to get diet

and sometimes diet is less sweet in a good way

[dense violet]

it's probably still a good idea to not make it a daily thing though.
lots of things are 'fine' when kept fairly moderate mostly because age will get you before it does anything to you. In moderation

[hard wolf]

TBF, we don't know the long term affects of these chemicals (see: radium). I support you as long as you can acknowledge and accept the potential long term risks, but would still ward you off of them because that's scary and nobody deserves to suffer as a result of uninformed CEO's forcing things on everyone just because they "look better on paper right at this moment."

[hard wolf]

offroad land train w/ a car for every doggo?

[ornate saffron]

All terrain lizard doggo express

[hard wolf]

now all we need is bugs to pick up and feed to the birbs to befriend them so they can find weird shiny things for us x3

[ornate saffron]

I kept trying to drop nuts down there throats

[raven grotto]

in 1.2 q in a vehicle lets me open the inventory? i can refuel as im moving

fire

[hard wolf]

I think they're mostly carnivorous, and that it looks like their beak and tongue act as a flower to attract bugs. also the nuts might be a bit big for them xwx

[ornate saffron]

Oooooooohhhh you thought I ment the nuts that grow in game not......

I jest

[spiral summit]

nOOOOOO my satisfactory tools factories r gone 💔

[ornate saffron]

? You dont backup links to a document?

[spiral summit]

ffs i mightve cleared my cookies

i might have a link for it somewhere

yay there it is

lost my other less important ones though

[dense violet]

6keep a spread sheet and paste the important plans there 🙂

you can also apparently just download a file that loads all the plans? but I don't find that as useful personally

[hard wolf]

imo rework everything in SF Modeler and save that to your drive so it doesn't happen again

[dense violet]

yes spend 10x as long to do a thing to save a thing
when you can jsut click the link button and save it

[raven grotto]

using SCIM and the wiki to find the easy crash sites is the strat, like no im not going to the one thats close it requires 20 computers and has uranium next to it guarded by a nuclear hog im good

[dense violet]

brilliant. Flawless method

[raven grotto]

and now i have plastic in phase 2

[wraith magnet]

How much power should I aim for in phase 3? I currently have a operation oil extraction and refinery

[raven grotto]

good question, in my case im ending phase 2 soon and im at 2.4gw with 32 coal plants

and sometimes thats barely enough

[hard wolf]

SF Modeler is a brilliant tool that brings an immense amount of granularity and control into the factory planning process. also if your hands are fast enough it's definitely not 10x as long

[wraith magnet]

32 COAL PLANTS??

I have 4 and more than enough power at this exact moment

[raven grotto]

#screenshots message

2.4gw and i dont think i use less than 1gw

ever

[wraith magnet]

I use uh

About 350mw-400mw and produce about 525

[dense violet]

I build 64 coal gens with mk3 belts to get to phase 4?

[raven grotto]

how the hell did you finish phase 2

[wraith magnet]

I’ve just automated packaged fuel

[dense violet]

find a spot with 3-4 coal nodes next to water
just burn it all

[raven grotto]

lowkey dk how to make it :D

[dense violet]

every start zone has at least one spot like that nearby

[wraith magnet]

Oh yeah a lot of my coal plants are in overdrive

[raven grotto]

coal power is SO easy

[nova flume]

ill be on in a couple days are there any people who could help me out in my first save?

[wraith magnet]

So technically I have maybe 10 plants maybe 9

[dense violet]

over clocking them doesn't do much if that's what you mean
just saves space.
it's not more power per coal

[raven grotto]

so i just copied cobalts design (tysm) and made my power

[wraith magnet]

I’ve only seen it as just like adding another one every 100%

[dense violet]

exactly. And you have infinite space so ... I would save your shards for all your miners and other thigns

[hard wolf]

I've got 32 plants being fed by the 4 normal coal nodes at the northish rocky desert inlet. it's perfectly reasonable

[raven grotto]

yes but early game shards are more worth something else like miners

[wraith magnet]

Should I ditch biofuel and go all in on packaged ?

[dense violet]

in what sense?

bio fuel doesn't have much use past coal power

[raven grotto]

go all in on coal :D

[wraith magnet]

Okay it’ll just take work redesigning my plants

[hard wolf]

packaged diluted fuel all the way

[raven grotto]

man i wish i had nitro i have some perfect emojis for this

[dense violet]

find that spot I was telling you about 🙂

[wraith magnet]

Well my Jetpack and vehicles

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

some basic coal layouts

[wraith magnet]

I’m new to this

[dense violet]

just keep groups of 8, makes it real easy

[dense violet]

everyone is at some point 🙂

[wraith magnet]

This is the furthest I’ve ever gotten and the last time I did it with someone

[hard wolf]

you wouldn't be able to use them here :/

[raven grotto]

YO nitro is only $3 a month?

[raven grotto]

awe shucks

[wraith magnet]

I’m in rocky desert

[mighty furnace]

Are mods required to play? or are all the builds that are on the mods in the shop? - windows, doors etc?

[raven grotto]

it would have been manface from roblox 💔

[dense violet]

there's lots of base game items like that yes

[dense violet]

your two most convenient spots are probably to your east then. One next to an inlet and one on a cliff

[raven grotto]

oh my god this crash site is absolutely amazing

like 200+ circuit boards and like 30 computers both of which i cant acess

[wraith magnet]

The one in through that cave and it kinda spits u out in the little cave thing

[dense violet]

you don't have to use the cave to get to it 🙂

[hard wolf]

mods are 100% not required and you can do a lot without them. if you go to Doug & Nova's YT channel and search curves you'll find 3 videos on an incredible build technique that I love (nova curves)

[raven grotto]

theres a couple mods i hope get updated to 1.2 when it releases... like i wanted to try the one where you can copy and paste configs with a tool without ctrl+c ctrl+v inside each machine

[mighty furnace]

Yes but can you achieve some of these builds on youtube without using mods?

[raven grotto]

but almost every mod is broken for experimental rn

[wraith magnet]

I know my base is just set up on the other side of the cave

[dense violet]

yes of course

[hard wolf]

that depends, though most of the YT builds I see aren't using mods

[wraith magnet]

Am I wasting my time making this packaged fuel

[dense violet]

... I mean it's useful for stuff? good for vehicles and jet pack

if you ydon't want either of those things it's less useful

[dense violet]

do you mean packaged liquid bio fuel or like... packaged fuel

[wraith magnet]

Stuff that comes from oil

[dense violet]

yeah so good for vehicles and jet pack

you could also burn it for power when you unlock fuel gens

[wraith magnet]

Perfect exactly what I was gonna use it for

My refinery is on the beach

[dense violet]

they often are

[raven grotto]

man the spire coast crash sites are kinda fire

almost none have guards, and they have great early game loot for say other crash sites or a boost in beginning of probably the next phase i assume idk dont tell me

[hard wolf]

packaged water to diluted packaged fuel to unpackaged fuel is the most efficient way to make fuel until you get blenders

[wraith magnet]

So complicated

[raven grotto]

it is a factory game so

[wise junco]

it's not as bad as it sounds in practice

[wraith magnet]

I take it as a challenge not as a problem

[dense violet]

not really. You can make a blueprint that does it all in a smal loop for almost zero work

[wraith magnet]

I haven’t tried the blueprints yet

[hard wolf]

it is, but it's so worth. it's less complicated if you're making a packaged fuel factory for the jetpack and vehicles, and you can build a bp that includes 1 refinery, 1 packager, and 1 unpackager to make it easier

[wraith magnet]

I kinda just built a all purpose refinery cause I unlocked it

[raven grotto]

man wtf i need to get me the rebar gun is it worth it

[wraith magnet]

I think make a dedicated packaged fuel factory

[wraith magnet]

Yeah

[hard wolf]

the empty canister out from unpackaged fuel to empty canister in for packaged water loop is especially easy with a small bp

[hard wolf]

where did you spawn?

[wraith magnet]

Having ocd and playing this would be a nightmare

[hard wolf]

it is 😭

[wraith magnet]

Rocky desert my base near spawn

[raven grotto]

or anything with short attention spans

like i wanna do this and get distracted with another project

its an infinite loop you get to there

yo i got 6 hard drives on me rn

[wraith magnet]

I sometimes get overwhelmed by the complexity but instead I don’t think about it

[raven grotto]

why? idk they like me or smth

now to the untrained ear...

[wraith magnet]

I discvoered iron pipe recipe from a hard drive it was like discovering penicillin all over again

[hard wolf]

the western islands is a good spot for that (2x pure & 2x normal oil nodes, plus an oil well for late game). I started there as well, a few playthroughs in xwx

[dense violet]

... just add coal. Iron and coal are so common together. Iron pipe uses so much iron

[wraith magnet]

Do nodes run out?

[raven grotto]

yo the ada kinda funny lol

[hard wolf]

no

[wraith magnet]

Trust me my situation in the end it has to be this way

[raven grotto]

you deserve a microbreak... and you're back do you feel refreshed?

made me chuckle

[dense violet]

just turn aroudn the corner. you'll run into coal

[wraith magnet]

I have so much iron more than I know what to do with making these pipes if anythingmakes itbetter cause the conveyers ain’t backed up

[dense violet]

you'll need it for more things very quickly

[raven grotto]

OH YEA

[wraith magnet]

Like what

[dense violet]

mod frames, HEAVY mod frames

[raven grotto]

with this gun i feel like the alphas are betas (its meant to be corny)

[dense violet]

steel just makes things much more convenient

especially when you get the solid steel recipe

[wraith magnet]

Okay so I should’ve picked biofuel into coal recipe

[raven grotto]

bio coal?

[wraith magnet]

Yeah

[dense violet]

that actually gives you unique options

[raven grotto]

im keeping that one in my harddrive library because i dont want to roll that again

[dense violet]

it's a fairly niche recipe though, yes

[raven grotto]

it was that or caterium wire ugh

[hard wolf]

don't worry about what you've picked. you can always find more drives

[wraith magnet]

I also could’ve rolled another one

[raven grotto]

and hat was my reroll

[wraith magnet]

Tru dat

[dense violet]

caterium wire is useful?

[raven grotto]

it is? idk

[hard wolf]

iron wire is better imo, especially with the pure iron ingot recipe

[raven grotto]

all i used caterium for is mk2 poles and research tree

[dense violet]

it's a resource exchange - copper not convenient and there's caterium in an area you want to build? bam , caterium wire

[mint cradle]

Lowk burnt myself out of this game 💔 what a shame but hey I got dragon quest to play

[raven grotto]

oh i see

[dense violet]

it does one job very well

[raven grotto]

ill keep that one in the library tho so i dont roll biocoal again

[dense violet]

eh, the hate for bio coal is silly

just grab it and move on with your life

[wraith magnet]

I still got mk1 belts flowing and I’m about to hit mk4

[raven grotto]

i have no use for it

[dense violet]

ok? the other thing on it is useful so grab that

[raven grotto]

mk3 is objectively easier to get than 2 and you still rocking 3

[latent prawn]

biocoal and charcoal are useful for filters and ammo

[dense violet]

also turning pigs into Uranium Rods

[hard wolf]

definitely this, unless the other recipe is super usefull. keeping recipes in the drivebrary is great for the reason you mentioned

[dense violet]

doesn't even have to be radioactive pigs

[raven grotto]

wait i just saw that caterium wire produces at a faster rate than copper

[wraith magnet]

I’d rather have nothing from this new update for a road builder like how conveyers work

[raven grotto]

mmm bacon egg n cheese mc griddle from mcdonalds

[dense violet]

... sure.. but I wouldn't say that's the main benefit

[hard wolf]

iron wire, tho 😭

[dense violet]

zoop foundations. You have a road

[wraith magnet]

Don’t bend

[raven grotto]

ironically thats one reason im going out for hard drives rn

[dense violet]

you absolutely can #design-and-architecture message

but also ... fabricated roads are very meh.

[wraith magnet]

How

[dense violet]

why do you need them?

[wraith magnet]

What’s the other option

[dense violet]

there's lots of natural roads on the map

[hard wolf]

this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoQbyClu4gQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzDKH_Fa0-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq5f2HlQe2g

[raven grotto]

now how do i change my ammo type in rebar gun

[hard wolf]

hold the reload button

[wraith magnet]

I want to drive to my oil refineries and it’s bumpy and it also looks cool cause like I’m expanding

[raven grotto]

ty

[minor rock]

See thats something an AI assistant could help with. Just use voice in game and it tells you. More immersive that way

[raven grotto]

BUT it would need to be local

[wraith magnet]

And I wanna try out automating trucks and they will need roads

[dense violet]

you can always patch up some sections with some foundations , but for the most part you can get most places on the natural paths

plus the main benefit of vehicles is that they DONT need all that infrastructure

[dense violet]

you absolutely don't

[hard wolf]

do you want an AI to take over your life and do everything for you?

[raven grotto]

for offline play n such so then game requirements would skyrocket

[dense violet]

literally the great thing about them compared to trains

if you're building ALL that infrastructure the whole way you might as well build trains at that point

[wraith magnet]

They got stuck all time

When I ge trains I’m gonna

[dense violet]

you made poor pathing then. It's common with new people

with 1.1 if you just record turns slowly that gets rid of like 99% of your issues
1.2 dont' even need that

[wraith magnet]

Okay I’ll try that

[raven grotto]

yooo just hit 50 hours

like 30 seconds ago

mind you i started i think last tues or wednesday

[wraith magnet]

What’s the best way to automate Motars

[raven grotto]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[wraith magnet]

U guys got something for everything

[raven grotto]

yurp

i use SCIM for a map too alongside the wiki to see if the crash sites are guarded or not

suprisingly, most of the ones in the spire coast are unprotected with rather good loot

[dense violet]

it's a very convenient tool 🙂
you might have to turn off SAM ore in the inputs tab but that's really the only thing to look out for

[raven grotto]

wait how does SAM mess it up?

[dense violet]

the SAM ore conversion to other ores is a base recipe, and the weight system sometimes uses it to add to a path

[raven grotto]

ohhh i see

forgot about that

[dense violet]

so if you have a big computer factory the program may decide SAM ore is 'cheaper' than other resources

as an example

the quickest way to disable that though is just unchecking SAM ore in the input or turning off the Converter machien in the machine tab

[raven grotto]

man 60/s on the dimensional depot is so nice

do i go 120/s before 3 stacks

[hard wolf]

ime it's best to max out depot upgrades

[raven grotto]

i think speed is most noticable for me right now making it a priority over size

[hard wolf]

building materials like concrete (or steel beams in my situation) will deplete quickly

[raven grotto]

because anyway when i have a depot it goes: manufacture -> industrial storage -> depot

YESSS

i got the 6 inv slot on my reroll for my second hard drive of the adventure

oh its so nice so so nice

[minor rock]

Why local tho?

[raven grotto]

offline?

[minor rock]

You still go somewhere for the answer, its not any different just cuz its AI, nobody ever said google take over your life cause you did a search query

[minor rock]

Yea but why offline ?

[raven grotto]

do you know how many people play this game offline?

i mean its steam deck verified

so it would have to be offline meaning increased needs making the game run worse due to an ai having to run on your hardware

and a TON of people do NOT want ai running on their hardware if any at all

[hard wolf]

this isn't about ai taking over your life because you googled something. this is about ai taking over your life because you might find it easier than thinking for yourself

[raven grotto]

yo is this worth 2 hatchers and a cliff hog?
63 Encased Industrial Beam
53 Gas Nobelisk
65 Circuit Board
12 Computer
29 Motor
70 Stator

fs right

[minor rock]

Thats kind of weird, seems like youre trying to roast bigev asking for help in discord instead of figuring out the controls. All im sayin is an ai assistant for controls would be great in games, and especially for beginners, a lot of knowledge is assumed

[fiery pewter]

I have never heard of a cliff hog, but hell yeah

[raven grotto]

hog that throws rocks pretty much

[minor rock]

Ohh i guess you could dual wield both modes, a baby model and a big one in the clouds

[raven grotto]

nuclear hog thats not nuclear

[minor rock]

Wait til you meet Johnny

[fiery pewter]

Pretty sure that's just an Elite hog, could be wrong

[raven grotto]

you might be thinking of alpha spitter or smth like that

[fiery pewter]

Each mob has an alpha and Elite class

[worn oar]

Worth it for the animal remains alone

[raven grotto]

i get so many spitters, right now i have 48

[minor rock]

Cliff hogs can throw rocks

[worn oar]

🎟️

[raven grotto]

what

ohjhhhh

[hard wolf]

that was wholly directed at you

which makes you look like you're deflecting imo

[raven grotto]

justr killed the hog with an explorer and like 2 gas nobelisks

[fiery pewter]

Pretty sure the following is true:

3 variants of Spitter
3 variants of Alpha Spitter

Standard Hog
Alpha Hog
2 variants of Elite Hog

Baby Stinger
Alpha Stinger
2 variants of Elite Stinger

[minor rock]

Ya but im talking about asking a question which everyone does, its doesnt matter if its an ai or google or the cord yknow

[hard wolf]

did you get the roadkill achievement?

[raven grotto]

been had it i think i unlocked it the moment i got the tractor lol

[fickle locust]

What do you mean "worth?"

[raven grotto]

like worth the effort

too late now ive already did it

[fickle locust]

Yeah I was going to say if you're asking the question you're at a point where it's definitely worth it

[hard wolf]

MURICA! FUCK YEAH! (this country sucks 😞)

[fiery pewter]

Tf does the USA have to do with the roadkill achievment

[raven grotto]

your not supposed to be able to climb un climbable walls with the parachute right

[fiery pewter]

Kinda yes