satisfactory

[violet glen]

not very average tho

[rigid mist]

yeah but if it sways between 200-600 the average is 400, but very hard to read

[earnest condor]

Just build system so that input = output, then "average" doesn't matter.

[rigid mist]

i think it's better just to instead of balancing my pipes just have every pipe have an equal input-output without merging/splitting

[earnest condor]

Balancing?

Don't ever think about pipes in terms of belts 😭

[rigid mist]

like if i have 2 600 pipes and i separate them into 3 400 pipes

[violet glen]

pipes generally work fine if input and output match exactly, and you fully pre-fill the entire system

[rigid mist]

like
in (600) in (600)
| |
| ------------>|<------------ |
V V V
out (400) out (400) out (400)

which is what i have right now and it's giving me some issues

[earnest condor]

Yeah that's a belt-thinking system.

[violet glen]

Such a system generally works fine though

I'd just put valves on the two pipes pointing to the middle, to make sure no funky cross-feed happens

[earnest condor]

I go for 100% infallible, not "usually" or "generally" 🤷‍♂️

[rigid mist]

that's what i did and it's mostly working now

[violet glen]

Just don't make the mistake of setting them to 200 each, that will end badly

[earnest condor]

Also now I know you're trolling because you're actively recommending Valves...

[rigid mist]

thanks i'll go change that

[violet glen]

I'm not sure exactly how valves work internally, but my impression is that the 200 limits the max flow, not the average. So with the consumption and production being bursty, it will never be actually 200

[rigid mist]

yeah that makes sense

[earnest condor]

Internally they have limited-bit numbers.
So unless you're working exactly in those terms they are imprecise.

Also, they do nothing to stop backpressure, which pushes slosh across them, causing issues.

[rigid mist]

i mean my fuel power plant makes 195 gw and i don't really care if it's entirely consistent (it goes up and down by about 2 gw)

[earnest condor]

If you don't care about consistency... 😭

🚪 🚶

[violet glen]

Just rush to rocket fuel

[rigid mist]

that's what i did

[earnest condor]

Ionized 🙂

[worn oar]

The factory is an accordion

[rigid mist]

i have 320 rocket fuel reactors

[violet glen]

I never had issues with gas

[rigid mist]

ok i was about to send a picture of my production chain but i forgot to paste the screenshot and now i gotta wait a minute

#screenshots message i haven't done the turbofuel part yet but these are my numbers

[earnest condor]

Usually when people talk about rushing to RF they mean the alternate recipe for it.

[violet glen]

That is the alternate, is it not?

[earnest condor]

Alternate doesn't involve Turbofuel.

[violet glen]

The Turbofuel is made from the Rocketfuel byproduct

[earnest condor]

That's a choice.

[rigid mist]

it's efficient
and i have a pitiful amount of oil with this random seed

[earnest condor]

Oh...

Randomization.

[violet glen]

Oh, I thought the amount of everything didn't change, just the locations?

[earnest condor]

Locations is what changes the amount if the node placement dictates the purity.

Not sure if that is what happens, as I will never touch that option ever.

[rigid mist]

i did it all pure and advanced rich
i got 34(?) pure uranium nodes
but only 18 pure oil nodes

[green fiber]

34 uranium lmao

[rigid mist]

50 pure sam, 49 bauxite, 52 quartz, 39 sulfur

49 caterium

[earnest condor]

The base map has 8+6+2+0.5 = 16.5 "pure oil nodes" so idk what the complaint is about having more oil? 🤔

[rigid mist]

yeah but it's tiny compared to the other resources

[earnest condor]

But it is MORE.

🤔

[rigid mist]

wait i never counted wells

so that's 16800/min

and still 40800/min of uranium

[green fiber]

obviously the answer is "go ham with nuclear power"

once you can of course lol

[rigid mist]

i have it planned out for 504 reactors

102/minute

[lusty turret]

I have a question about how pipeline pumps work, lets say i have a large manifold of refineries, like 20 recieving 600m3 of crude oil, if i put a pipeline pump at the start of the manifold is this supposed to like force charge the manifold, or do pipeline pumps increase headlift and thats it?

[earnest condor]

They increase headlift and have some internal pressure mechanics.
But if you don't loop that pipe, you're going to have issues.

[lusty turret]

okay so its one long pipe with t junctions on it, and a dead end at the end, is this what is causing my problem then? like its mostly function but there is one machine that doesnt seem to being filled 100% of the time

[rigid mist]

i disabled recycled rubber & plastic in satisfactory planner and it dropped my oil consumption compared to when they were on
it was set to minimize resource cost
now i'm using 3x less oil and like 40 less refineries

[earnest condor]

a dead end at the end

Issues.

Never think about pipes in terms of belts.

[rigid mist]

784 refineries 💀

as i progres in this world i'm going to turn off more and more advanced game settings, so next up is a factory to build construction materials
or just a main base i guess

[lusty turret]

oh do i fix this then, like should i loop the very in back into the start of my manifold?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[rigid mist]

thanks

[lusty turret]

im going to post a screenshot can you look at it

[earnest condor]

Yes.

@lusty turret yes. 😄

[lusty turret]

okay cool thank you

[earnest condor]

Here's how you need to think about them:

Pretend you're using a belt and it's just normal items - what happens if the final machine is completely full for a cycle and cannot take input for 1s?

[lusty turret]

Makes sense, its weird because ive done this setup before and it seemed okay, but ive also never done 20 refineries using a full pipeline before, so maybe its the scale thats causing it

[earnest condor]

No like... answer the question? 😭

What do items on belts do if they cannot go into the final machine for 1s?

[rigid mist]

stop

[lusty turret]

They back up, right? lol

[earnest condor]

And then...? Like what is the full behaviour?

[rigid mist]

(as in the items stop)

[earnest condor]

They sit there and wait before continuing, yes?

[lusty turret]

Yes

[rigid mist]

mhm

[earnest condor]

K. If you have a tub of water and you push it all to one end with your hand-- it is not going to just sit there and wait before continuing. It's going to slosh back.

So you need to have the loop part of the pipe so the fluid has somewhere to go instead of pushing back and stalling out your production.

[rigid mist]

ohhhh

[lusty turret]

what if i put a buffer at the end instead

[earnest condor]

Horrible.

[lusty turret]

does this work

[earnest condor]

No.

A buffer is literally just a larger, crappier pipe.

So it would be "better" but still horrible to just make your normal pipe extend beyond the last machine.

The sole use-case for buffers outside of "it looks pretty" is Train Logistics.

[lusty turret]

okay so the best way to do this in the future is take a T junction, run an loop all the way down flat on the ground, then junction off each side from the pipe all the way down?

[earnest condor]

Which kind of junction you use is 🤷‍♂️
And just loop the end back to the beginning and you're solid.

Can do it over the top or in parallel.

[lusty turret]

should i still be using buffers tho, i have a buffer at the output before my refineries that turn the heavy oil residue into fuel, is this really neccesary?

[earnest condor]

The sole use-case for buffers outside of "it looks pretty" is Train Logistics.

[mortal ginkgo]

you just need to keep in mind that fluids yolo. Whatever cant go further "forward" will go "backwards".

Thats why people have problems using full mk2 pipes in full force. Refineries gulp large amounts, asking for big flow to compensate but anything that goes backwards reduces that flow or completely stops it sometimes.

This is why sloshing occurs. And such sloshing causes bigger sloshing etc etc.

[earnest condor]

And valves do nothing to stop sloshing.

#satisfactory-experimental

[errant tapir]

oh sorry

[rigid mist]

what if i set a valve to limit the flow from end-start direction wise, or does it negate the effects of looping

cause it's just sending the beginning to the end

[earnest condor]

Your limiting will be imprecise and it still won't stop the backpressure from sloshing.

Valves are for decoration.

[rigid mist]

oh wait it's cause the front half is not running cause of how i set it up

[rigid mist]

it's not limited it's just direction limiting

[earnest condor]

System would work the same whether you did it or not, making them decorative.

[rigid mist]

ok

[lusty turret]

Is there a way to run this second pipeline so its like flush with the first, looks really stupid having it elevated above the bottom one, its putting it on the stands

[rigid mist]

i sadly can't loop it on my rocket fuel blenders cause there's not enough space, but i can on my fuel blenders

[earnest condor]

🤷‍♂️

Maybe redefine what you find stupid-looking given there are certain things that must be done to make stuff work? 🤔

[warped crane]

btw sevrahn my 8x truck stop is still working great

though it's only 7 now I realized I don't actually need silica

[lusty turret]

yes but aesthetics must be maintained

[earnest condor]

t clarified that the green zones have built-in Block Signal functionality.

[warped crane]

and it's functionally only a 4x stop next to a 3x stop, but it's still working great!

[lusty turret]

gonna lay the loop flat next time

[warped crane]

ahh yeah that was my understanding when they were announced or whatever

they just pause if anyone else is in the green area and wait until its clear

[earnest condor]

Must have missed that part of the patch note text 🤷‍♂️

But that is why he is called Archgenius.

[warped crane]

I think I saw it one of the videos so it may not have been obvious!!

[earnest condor]

Oh.. yeah I do a lot of skipping if I watch them at all.
Because I know many people love the stupid-sillyness of them, but I find it annoying so I skip to where he is actually talking about stuff.

[warped crane]

you do need to make sure you have enough space for backed-up trucks tho, you could still deadlock yourself I think if you have too much path spaghetti and too many trucks in too small a space

yeah same!

[earnest condor]

Almost done with Phase 2.

84k/79k/10k out of 100/100/10

[warped crane]

there's some finnicky stuff with path lengths and angles atm, too. at least on foundations. there are paths that work perfectly well in one spot but a path with apparently the exact same geometry will throw errors in a different spot

[earnest condor]

Imagine building roads...

[warped crane]

are you doing a 1000x run or something?

[earnest condor]

100x Elevator, yes.

[warped crane]

Oh I don't have roads, but I do have my factory / truck stop area paved

[earnest condor]

This is honestly the best setting imo.
I am playing the game the way I feel it was intended to be played because I cannot speedrun.

[warped crane]

my aluminum factory is a 20x20 foundation paved area that I have a truck path loop around the perimeter of, with a few ramps onto it from different directions, and then the truck stations are in the center in the building's ground floor. so the trucks end up running loops / figure-8s on the factory premesis. it keeps everything orderly

[warped crane]

seems legit. I should try that on my next run

[earnest condor]

I want to say 50x is probably the sweet spot, but I am commited at this point.

Automated Project Parts for the first time ever after playing for 8 years.

[warped crane]

lol

[earnest condor]

Phase 2 has me where I have captured every. single. node. in the RD and networked them with a sugar cube route.

Like.... I feel this is (as I said) what they intended with their design.

[warped crane]

I always automate project parts anyway just for the exercise. I refuse to manually load them. They must be connected by belt directly to the machine that produced them in an aesthetic / authentic way

[earnest condor]

I've just never done it because the cost of the Elevator was so low it was too easy to just skip to the end.

[warped crane]

yeah tbh I'm hoping "Satisfactory 2" has more cohesive victory / objective kind of stuff

[earnest condor]

?

I hope Satis 2 is just as sandbox "do what you want" as Satis 1 is.

[warped crane]

yeah but there are some things that feel weird, like how easy it is to just manually craft speedrun the project parts

or how you have most objectives via the hub shuttle delivery, but project parts via the elevator, and then there's a separate building to sink stuff for coupons, and also the MAM for researching stuff? It feels like there are 4 avenues for objectives that are not cohesive

[lusty turret]

Im running at 100% now 🙂

[earnest condor]

I miss the MAM being in the HUB.

[warped crane]

Should be some sort of interesting system where you have to deliver stuff in phase 1/2 via shuttle launch, then you build the elevator later, and rewards are all keyed off getting parts at x/min for x minutes or whatever

they could at least do something in current game where you could sink stuff into the elevator via the extra ports for 1.1x coupons or something

[earnest condor]

As long as the map isn't randomly generated I am game to buy into the Early Access of it.

[warped crane]

Yeah I like the curated map

[earnest condor]

Structural integrity system? 😮

[abstract heron]

19,626 hrs on record MORE RIGHT!

[earnest condor]

@warped crane I am going to have to conquer other biomes to push Phase 3 production numbers up. I just know it.
And again, I feel we are intended to do that.

[abstract heron]

are my hrs good sevrahn

[rigid mist]

dude the fluid mechanics in this game are so ass 💀

note to self: pipe manifolds are an excersice in futility

[worn oar]

Fluid mechanics in real life are ass. You basically need gravity to do the hard work and pressure is a pain in the ass

[rigid mist]

solution: freeze the world to absolute zero so everything is a solid
no more fluid mechanics

[sleek delta]

rate-based objectives are honestly just item count objectives with extra steps lol

if you need a full belt of part A for X minutes you can just buffer that exact amount then let it run, regardless of how fast or slow you're making them

factory planner (the game) was the latest to prove that because all the tier milestones absolutely were cheesable with the minimum effort builds

i mean, it's not like it's an invalid way to gate progression

it just works differently from how most people think it would

i.e. it doesn't invite scaling bigger, it just invites buffering

[rigid mist]

i think 98% efficient rocket fuel is fine

closer to 98,5 now

[abstract heron]

Are my hrs good 19,627 hrs on record

[rigid mist]

this is going to make me lose my fucking mind i just lost 20gw out of the blue

[rigid mist]

yeah but how many of them are actively playing the game
not counting AFK, waiting for things to run, doing calculations, etc.

yk what i have 70.4 GWh of battery storage i'm sure it'll be fine

[abstract heron]

373hrs left to go

[rigid mist]

that doesn't answer my question

cause i got a friend with tens of thousands of hours in minecraft just because he leaves the game running

[abstract heron]

I don't leave the game running Minus to grab food etc etc

[rigid mist]

how long have you been playing

when did you start

[abstract heron]

June 8th 2020 steam release day

[rigid mist]

and would you say like 95% of the time the game is open you are actively playing it

[abstract heron]

Yes

[rigid mist]

ok

[fossil agate]

How many smelters can a miner mk.1 handle?

[abstract heron]

actually 100% of the time i play is open

[worn oar]

Pure node, 250% overclock = 300, so 10 at 100%

[rigid mist]

8.42 hours a day, on average

over 2214 days

[worn oar]

Almost finished with onboarding then

[rigid mist]

yeah

[abstract heron]

i wanna 20k hrs then i can be like to mikael and jason a good game 😛

[rigid mist]

my max hours per day was 11,41 over 2 weeks

[low ingot]

hi, im still having troubles with the game crashing everytime i launch, is there anyone who had this problem before and has a fix? i've verified steam files, updated drives etc... only thing i havent done is uninstall/reinstall cause i really didnt wanna wait with my slow internet..

[bitter basin]

Doing calculations and waiting to see if a system to run gotta be like top 5 things that are a core part of this game wdym bro

[rigid mist]

linux?

[bitter basin]

Yeah THAT doesnt count, i have a friend similar who leave space engineers open and beat my hours but hes lame and not as cool as me and a stupid conservative midwestern chud. (I dislike him sm bro)

[sour cargo]

maybe silly question but ... you can't blueprint the hub?

[rigid mist]

cause you can only have one

[sour cargo]

i know, but ... that's not relevant tho

[low ingot]

nah, windows 11 but i think i last played 2 months ago had no issues, started trying to get back into it the past week and crash everytime.. was there a update in between? maybe something got messed up...

[rigid mist]

can't help you there i haven't used windows since 2021 and that was windows 10

[abstract heron]

19,627 hrs on record TOTAL in my current world its 5,784hrs soon 5,785hrs

[rigid mist]

damn

[abstract heron]

i do have one world pre 1.0 thats 6800hrs

[fierce granite]

do you get a crash log?

[abstract heron]

also probbaly doing 200 nuclear pasta per minute

[rigid mist]

gawdamn

[icy crag]

anyone know if its possible to make a 2d zoop?!

this seems like a massive oversight or atleast a setting for the game, building planes instead of lines when it comes to foundations

[earnest condor]

Oversight?

[icy crag]

ya it seems like an obvious edition id say

addition

[earnest condor]

Do you know what "economy of scale" means?

[icy crag]

ya

i just turn my settings down

[earnest condor]

And you still think it is an oversight?

[icy crag]

yes

you dont have to use it

[earnest condor]

Odd conclusion, but you do you.

[rigid mist]

smart mod

[icy crag]

thank you

[earnest condor]

That's not how people work.

[icy crag]

yea it is

[earnest condor]

Nope.

[icy crag]

yea

[earnest condor]

If something is in the game it will be used.

That is factual.

[icy crag]

not everyone uses all the extra recipes

[earnest condor]

🤦‍♂️

[icy crag]

or arachnaphobia setting

[earnest condor]

Not worth continuing this one.
Bye. 👋

[icy crag]

or feedback option or server manager

everyone hates motion blur

yet that's still here

Vsync too

half the map icons

called a sandbox game for a reason 🤷‍♂️

[rigid mist]

vsync is a must for me

[abstract heron]

why it destorys fps

[rigid mist]

my monitor is limited to 60 anyways

[icy crag]

^^^ ( case and point )

[rigid mist]

and i can't tell the difference above that either way
seems like a waste of processing power to go above 60

[marble rose]

everyone has their preference of fps at the end, cant argue against that

[abstract heron]

i am atm in my world about 23fps or 27FPS at best

[bitter basin]

Yeah but i like these 4 avenues better than if they were too intertwined because maybe one sections starts to feel boring, its really nice to be able to switch to a different thing, i think at worst, the 4 systems feel a little awkward to someone who doesnt like them, but at best are a godsend to people frustrated by one section, so i think its a good idea to leave as is, or for a sequel, keep the game having multiple different sections you can progress in semi-independently

[abstract heron]

i might be actually making 200 nuclear pasta per minute by hand not 100 idk yet

[keen comet]

when i clip satisfactory the screen has huge black margins, its certainly caused by dlss, but how do i fix it?

[icy crag]

maybe change to windowed fullscreen?

[keen comet]

it is though

[icy crag]

maybe just windowed?

[keen comet]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1505412032944406529

also i have to force dx11 or the game crashes on launch and its hugely annoying

[abstract heron]

1.1 or 1.2?

[lapis knot]

[placid stirrup]

@keen comet YO I thought you stole my pfp for a sec

[lapis knot]

It does look similar xd

[proud tinsel]

This dumb game steals my sleeping time bruh

[placid stirrup]

On mobile they're indistinguishable until you expand them

[proud tinsel]

Oh lmfao twins

[marble rose]

am i a bid dumb or are my smart splitters somethimes failing to split?

[proud tinsel]

When do you unlock smart splitter btw ?

[keen comet]

whichever is the latest nonbeta

[marble rose]

gimme a minute to check that ;-;

[keen comet]

mine is my late pet rat lol, its kinda surprising how close the pfps match

[proud tinsel]

It's eere lol

[marble rose]

You gotta unluck it in the MAM station

[lapis knot]

Imagine if the other guys is also his late pet rat

[placid stirrup]

Same here, took Darwin from NY to CO and he's been my pfp since like 2020

[lapis knot]

Bruh

[keen comet]

woah

[lapis knot]

Dopplegangers?

[proud tinsel]

Waat i didn't see it bruh

[icy crag]

ratmaxx W

[proud tinsel]

What branch is it

[lapis knot]

Nah this has to be a guy on 2 accounts

[marble rose]

cat branch , its part of the 4 last once

[keen comet]

nope lol

[lapis knot]

Its too sus

[placid stirrup]

The worst part about rats is their short life span, it's pretty believable unfortunately

[proud tinsel]

I think it need computer right? Oh lmao thanks i didn't get t5 yet lol

[keen comet]

yeah, i wish they lived longer

[marble rose]

ntg it also depends on the cat species

[keen comet]

ive had 8 and im down to my last

[proud tinsel]

Taking my sweet time don't wonna ruch so much like i did reaching t4 in a day lol

[lapis knot]

Rest in peace both the rats

[marble rose]

it sadly takes a while to unlock sobbb

[keen comet]

i swap my pfp and banner to the most recently deceased

[marble rose]

my attempt was to rush trains today after being t5 and it still took me 10hrs...

[keen comet]

pfp (balls) banner (dumpling)

[placid stirrup]

Your poor heart

[proud tinsel]

Lmfao reminds me when i was making my first 2 coal factories

[earnest condor]

Smart Splitter only takes AILs and is available in Tier 1-2.

[placid stirrup]

Alright /off topic

[proud tinsel]

Wuut

Then iam doing something wrong lol i need to check my tree

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[marble rose]

gosh i jsut realized how smart splitters work i feel a bit stupid now

i still break yalls trains for that

[earnest condor]

Caterium Ore > Caterium Ingot > Quickwire > AIL (QW + Copper Sheet) > Smart

[low ingot]

yes everytime

[proud tinsel]

I knew oooo i think iam very close then but i dont have enough ingkts to make enough wires sadly

[fierce granite]

create a thread in #1038092680493801533 and post it there in text form, and also put your pc specs, someone that can read the crash log will pop by when they get a chance and let you know what is up with it.

[earnest condor]

The factory must grow.

[proud tinsel]

I was watching a video on how to make duplicates expandable factories for that

My mega factory was waaaaaay to long lol

5min walk

[lapis knot]

Having a 24 length train may not have been the wisest choice in hindsight

[keen comet]

does the crash happen to be related to DX12?

i cant load the game without the -dx11 flag in the steam game settings just because it crashes at the coffee stain logo

[low ingot]

thats where it crashes yes

i have to downgrade to 11? to play satisfactory?

[keen comet]

i had to

do you happen to run a 50 series?

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/456109329456562187/1505422187740532858 @low ingot

[low ingot]

yes i have a 5090

[warped crane]

I have a 6767

[keen comet]

funny because im using a 5080, with this exact issue

i think it has issues with blackwell

[abstract heron]

i have a 5080ti and i run the game on dx12

[low ingot]

thats crazyyy. cause the -dx11 thing worked 🙂

it doesnt crash anymore thank you

[weary gate]

Why is there so little nitrogen in my pipes?

Both extractors are running at 100%

[warped crane]

hello, mods?

[dense violet]

Make a post in qna with images

[weary gate]

In what?

[dense violet]

Question and answers

[ornate saffron]

NO GIFS IN THIS CAHT

[ornate saffron]

#1038092680493801533

[dense violet]

Jesus I just came back from SF Reddit. The posts about pipes are so painful

[warped crane]

example?

[keen comet]

perchance do you run on a laptop?

[low ingot]

I do

[keen comet]

yep, me too

ive had issuses with subnautica 2 which also seems to be only laptop (mobile) gpus

so, its practically a global issue with mobile 50 series gpus.

especially games made with, cough, unreal 5

[dense violet]

people telling others 'add a buffer to the front of every machine, and valves' , just... lots of things

or telling people water towers will fix your flow issues

[ornate saffron]

to be fair the in game knowledge is limited

[warped crane]

water towers are very aesthetic tho

[dense violet]

it's mostly that it's basically impossible to squash misinformation on reddy

[dense violet]

I mean do whatever aesthetics you want, just don't tell people it'll do things it doesn't

[dense violet]

like the fact that the b2b bug deleting items myth was around for YEARS, even after the b2b was fixed

[warped crane]

I do like feeding my pipe networks from above, even though I'm theoretically producing in the correct ratios such that it shouldn't matter

it's never caused any issues even if it isn't strictly necessary

[dense violet]

again - sure , just shouldn't tell people it fixes the issues they are having

[warped crane]

lol the wiki image of pipeline manifolds still has old refineries

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Pipeline_manifold#/media/File:Plastic_production.png

huh I forgot the water extractors ever coexisted with the old refineries tbh

[dense violet]

hah, wasn't actuall yaround for those I think

[warped crane]

I remember when pipes came out 🙂

[abstract heron]

are my hrs good 19,630 hrs on record

[low ingot]

this is good to know cause i bought subnatica yesterday, just havent donwloaded yet... ill see if i have to do the same thing again on that one

[abstract heron]

in my world 5,787hrs

[abstract heron]

trev is this good?

[warped crane]

sir that's 8 hours a day since the beta weekend I don't believe your actual playtime is that long

[abstract heron]

i played in u3 and believe me i got the game during steam release day

[warped crane]

that's > 8 hours a day then I don't believe anyone has actually been playing that much for that long. but I believe you left your game open for that long

[abstract heron]

i love the game but i do play it i am currently making probbaly around 200 nuclear pasta per minute by hand

[keen comet]

should run fine just DO NOT TOUCH FRAME GENERATION

it caused a bsod for me

[serene jolt]

Mb

[ornate saffron]

believe it

[rough crest]

Guys how to deal with stress in the game let me explain there is just so much stuff I want to build I get ideas faster than I make current ones also it’s highly addicting yesterday I stopped only at 1AM after starting to feel physical pain lol

[twin parcel]

dam , its hard to find a friend from asia region to play with

[abstract heron]

hiya BEEF

[twin parcel]

?

[abstract heron]

beef is the beefalo

[twin parcel]

oh

[ornate saffron]

I find breaking it down into manageable chunks help.

for example I needed 7 crystal oscillators as part of my Nuclear build so i made a small factory just for that. and just kept on breaking the project up like that, in the end i had 14 building for the one project

[abstract heron]

sorry for ping but dis person

[ornate saffron]

Itys no bother ^_^ Audio notifications are off so i can sleep lol

[abstract heron]

btw 19,630 hrs on record

370hrs more to go

[ornate saffron]

I saw! Almost there

[twin parcel]

try this cursed technique , it called breaking a problem into smaller solvable chunks . Used by professionals too .

[abstract heron]

yes 20k hrs before a review and i can ping mikael and jason

[ornate saffron]

@abstract heron Its a long weekend here and friends wanted to game so I am up wayyyy to late llol

[abstract heron]

you having it to so i am

[rough crest]

Great suggestion I guess it’s always breaking into smaller problems and chilling

Also another thing I just remembered is always to be satisfied with what you have at some point and never try to chase perfection

And also don’t compare with others cause as they say comparison is the thief of joy

[shy sigil]

hi

[ashen token]

Whos european here?

Did anyone watch eurovision?

[low ingot]

my highest playtime on a run is only 222 hours and it was my first playthrough, i think i only have 400 something on satisfactory

[reef basin]

probably people in #off-topic-general

[abstract heron]

mine is 5,788hrs in my current world

[shy sigil]

does powered coal gen puffing smoke means its working

[sour cargo]

yes? but there's better ways to tell ...
the green/orange/red light bar above, as well as just open the UI and it tell you

[viscid olive]

If it’s anything like myself, no doubt

[shy sigil]

o ty

[sterile blade]

One of the most convenient ways are power poles ^^
They can also work from any distance, even without direct line of sight~

[sour cargo]

that shows the whole network, not specific machines/generators

[latent prawn]

protip: never hide the status indicator lights for buildings. they're useful when you're diagnosing/debugging problems

[twin parcel]

nah , i just look at the belts , if empty ? == somethings wrong .

[sour cargo]

ah yes, that's gonna work great for fuel generators ... lol

[unkempt blade]

Or just do vibe-based debugging and rebuild the whole thing whenever there's a problem. Pioneers famously love rebuilding the same thing multiple times for no reason

[twin parcel]

i used nuclear so i can avoid fuel gens , they suck

[sour cargo]

fuel gen doesn't suck, i'm smelling skill issues =)

[twin parcel]

they sucked cuz they tank my fps mate

[unkempt blade]

I get it. Pipes are tricky until you learn how they work

[sour cargo]

what kind of potato you playing on lmao

[twin parcel]

i builts 2400/min packged diluted fuel factory once ,whenever i approach that power plant , my fps drops .

i learned my lesson the hard way

[twin parcel]

laptop , amd ryzen 7 , 8845 HS cpu with rtx 4050 gpu

[unkempt blade]

"hey guys, heavy metal frames sucks because I built too many for my computer to handle in one place"

[wind bluff]

guys, i have a very important question
why is zoop called zoop?

[twin parcel]

thanks for summarize my pov .

[twin parcel]

sebab boleh dik (malaysian joke)

[sour cargo]

because it lets you zoop

[unkempt blade]

Any time! You should use more factory carts too

[sour cargo]

lower your graphics a bit ... but you shouldn't get such bad perfs with that ... i smell some BS in there

[hard wolf]

are fuel plants really that much worse on a computer than a nuclear plant is, given how much more complicated the production line is, especially if you're feeding base materials into the plant, manufacturing from scratch, and segmenting your power grid from the rest so that it can keep running in the event of a blackout?

[sour cargo]

not really

[twin parcel]

well it could be the amount of gens i placed , i didnt overclocked my gens cuz i dont have enough shards that time

or maybe i built a shitty pipe system but then the factory is still around 95% efficiency , so i doubt the pipes are big issue

but yeah i dont wanna go there anymore to fix any issues

[unkempt blade]

because it sounded cool when someone said "zoop"

[hard wolf]

you might wanna build production on a mountain and pipe everything down. I can't guarantee that the separation would help your framerate, but at least you wouldn't have to worry about headlift as much

[unkempt blade]

yeah that card is going to be unhappy in any bigger factory or densely built area

[wind bluff]

should i be worried with a 3070?

[sour cargo]

laptop or desktop?

[wind bluff]

desktop FE

[sour cargo]

then no

[twin parcel]

yea i built my unpackagers so high up to get free headlifts .

[unkempt blade]

less-so than laptop at least - you'll probably want mid settings at least

[hard wolf]

I'm on a 2070 super. you should be fine, though your framerate might tank if you place too many lights

[twin parcel]

ahhhh , now it rings a bell , there was crazy amount of lights , 1 light on 1 gen , so 200+ i believe

[hard wolf]

imo use windows at that point 😭

[sour cargo]

3060 12gb here, no perf issues even on high preset 🙃

[twin parcel]

it was redlight to make power plant looks like a horror film during night time, that didnt turn out well

what do u guys think about sulphur > limestone > coal converters loop ? what u guys use this loop for ?

saw that on kibtz video yesterday .

12 sam + sloops gives u 1 power shard from that loop

[hard wolf]

less lights definitely might help

[hard wolf]

8g here. mostly same but I'm not using global illumination xwx

[twin parcel]

this game uses my ram and cpu more than gpu

24 gb ddr5 5600MHz ram btw

[sour cargo]

default high settings have it off, so neither am i =)

[acoustic radish]

THE SPIDERS ARE TERRIFYING

I hate it so much

[sour cargo]

turn on aracnaphobia mode then

[twin parcel]

what does global illumination do ? i dont see any difference when i turned it on .

[acoustic radish]

No - I refuse to be weak. I'll just give myself IRL chills and elevated heart rates!

[twin parcel]

i use rebar gun with stun ammo , then throw cluster nobelisk on them while they are stunned .

[acoustic radish]

haha I'll get there.. I haven't even got past smart plating to go to stage 3 yet

Just going a bit further than I should be lol

[sour cargo]

you don't need that to research nobelisks and stun rebar tho

[acoustic radish]

oh

no spoil pls ill learn

ty ❤️

I just been putting it off honestly - just built a 12 burner power plant to get a starter factory going

[twin parcel]

phase 1 to 3 , eazy , phase 4 ( wtf is this complex chain of recipes ) , phase 5 ( why the fuck 12 nuclear pasta uses 160 overclocked refineries )

[acoustic radish]

lmao

I got the steel screws alternate or w.e on my first harddrive and I could not be more excited

Cast screws? the better one with only 5 ingots req

[twin parcel]

stop using it at tier 4 , unless ur a mad man

[sour cargo]

it's the same cost of materials, just skip 1 crafting step

stop using it at tier 4
do whatever you want, there's plenty of factories/crafting chains that can use cast screws to reduce the machines needed.

and/or remove screws entirely

[acoustic radish]

Games pretty fun though I will say. About 15 hours in

[sterile blade]

Some buildings are less optimized than others...
Looks at Constructors

[twin parcel]

real fun begins at phase 4

[low ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-rookie-numbers-gif-20904132

ahh booo no imbeds sorry

[cobalt crater]

[hexed phoenix]

Close to 20 hours in (rookie numbers) and yet to build space elevator.. Having turned all difficulty settings to max may be regretted, but looking forward to Coal power.. Although all resource notes are randomized and scattered.. Its like playing a brand new game :D

[native spruce]

Is it possible in creative mode to create any parts for the inventory? For example, to fill chests with them without producing them in a factory?

[unkempt blade]

I won't argue with that but I think the core issue was still building a factory that consumes like a full cluster of oil nodes+ on an entry tier laptop gpu

It's not a recipe choice problem primarily. It's choosing projects that are appropriate for what you're playing on

[steel sluice]

You can add things to the pioneer's inventory at no cost using creative mode

[twin parcel]

yeah i try my best to reduce amount of machines involved with alt recipes and power shards , but then u have nuclear pasta consuming crazy amount of ores which is a bruh moment .

[sterile blade]

Might be worth hunting for some more Sloops...

[native spruce]

Yes, I found the “give items” in the creative menu and can select a number of items there, but back in game I cannot find them in my inventory. Where are they?
Oops, I think I just clicked the wrong button in the dialog. Now it's working. 🙃

[sterile blade]

It makes things go from good looking to glorious looking
(I can share a screenshot showing the differences with it on/off, but I'd rather know wether you worry about spoilers or not first...)

[twin parcel]

i dont mind spoilers

[twin parcel]

do u play lethal company?

[brisk crow]

Bruh I realise I dint play satisfactory for a month already

[formal depot]

Guys i made my factory and it looks like a hot mess, should i dismantle everything and start anew?

It is somewhat efficient though

[leaden turret]

pave it over and make it look pretty

[formal depot]

Like theres cables everywhere, containers and conveyor belts overlapping, poles overlapping, its a mess

[noble pine]

I know it's not a spot to post here, but I'm live on twitch right now, posted my channel in the Streams and Videos channel for anyone who wants to come by

[leaden turret]

build a non-functional fascade, is the space capitalism way

[formal depot]

I'm more efficiency over form, so if it looks like a hot mess, i dont mind it until it really looks ugly, or until it starts blocking me from moving

And rn its REALLY ugly

[formal depot]

Turn on arachnophobia mode, it makes them look like stupid cats (which tbh i did, i came to play a factory game, not get terrified of freaky spiders)

[formal depot]

They annoyed me cause theres a cave under my base so i simply went down and exterminated them with the xenobasher lmao

Haven't even done phase 2 i already have SAM technology and quick wire and quartz etc...

Like i reached a point in the MAM tree where the only thing i was missing was steel parts

And then computers and circuit boards showed up so i stopped wandering like a fool around the map

[unkempt blade]

just make the next one you build less messy, repeat as needed

[formal depot]

Will do, i'll just cover the map in foundations, no biggie

[mortal coyote]

Is it possible to set maximum number of items in a truck station? I want it to have both quartz and silica but consumption is not even so it ends up full of just one of them

Or is it supposed to be 1 station = 1 type of item?

[leaden turret]

you can multiplex, buuuuut that way is the way of mathness

[noble pine]

Is this ok for me to post here?

[sterile blade]

You can make it work either way, but with differences... Main difference being that if you mix items, you can't allow the system to back up or it might clog (ie: managing items and any overflow, either by consuming or sinking them)

[lost oasis]

How much can one water exctractor power coal gens?

[noble pine]

1 Water Gen -> 8 Coal Gens

[twin parcel]

is there a quick way tell which drone port ran out fuel?

cuz there is like 80+ drone port , i believe small percentage of them ran out of fuel .

[leaden turret]

give 'em a quick scan while in dismantle mode

[twin parcel]

they are also all over the map

[onyx granite]

3 water 8 coal right

[tall lantern]

close, it's 3 to 8

[onyx granite]

I prefer 2 150% -> 8 myself tho with 1 150% powering 4 and anorher pipe for 1 150% powering another 4. Coal is temp anyway

[proud tinsel]

It feels soo gud to finnaly wake up and be able to play satisfactory yet again

[tall lantern]

I prefer 1@75% -> 2

[leaden turret]

-# play satisfactory in sleep, problem solved

[onyx granite]

Or this yeaah

[leaden turret]

upload to scim? 🤷‍♂️ (linked in #welcome )

[proud tinsel]

Didn't have this updated yet , probably on beta still

[twin parcel]

thanks

[frozen ingot]

i'm reallky gonna try and do nuclear power this time

just gotta prep and pick a location

and break it down into manageable chunks... and decide whether i want to process the waste or not

and then decide whether to use the plutonium rods or sink them...

and of course if i decide on the former... what to do with the plutonium waste 🤣

it's a lot of decisions!

[young hound]

make ficSONium😭😭😭😭

[zinc portal]

is there going to be multiplayer support other than epic online services

[frozen ingot]

no 😄

not sure i have it in me

[twin parcel]

to make ur life easier , just build big ass storage bins for uranium waste nearby the plant , even if u plan to make plutonium rods , unexpected bs happens when making plutonium rods plant and those bins might help ur ass .

[frozen ingot]

yeah i was always tempted to sink the plutonium rods

but i think i might just go the waste silo route

and yeah if there was anything i would buffer, it would be nuclear waste, even if processing it, hah!

[twin parcel]

its worth it to make plutonium rods ans sink it if u want a golden nut .

[frozen ingot]

already got my golden nut 😄

but this time trying to get it quicker, hah

and one day... one day... i will start a new game and focus on aesthetics throughout. No floating platforms. Actual finished, beautiful buildings. Imagine that 🤣

[unkempt blade]

what's wrong with floating platforms? it's very futurist

[rich harbor]

Guys im at phase 4 at the 1st part should i make like a bunch of supercomputers for later cuz i feel like im gonna need them even mote

[unkempt blade]

not worth it imo, supercomputers don't use nearly enough screws to be considered a good production chain

[quick hound]

It’ll ‘screw’ you over

let’s play 8ball

[lapis knot]

Do it in the swamp! Irradiate those spiders!

[restive umbra]

“random” access memory
look inside
deterministic

I’m so tired of being lied to

[earnest condor]

The factory memory must grow?

[restive umbra]

I’m too poor to buy more memory so the factory will have to do

[clever yew]

hi so uh i think my games hard lockt

[ornate saffron]

walls help as the game only reneders what you can see

[clever yew]

what do you do if you cant get in the game after trying vulkan

i open it and it crashes before the menu comes upp

[normal orbit]

add -dx12 as a launch parameter

[clever yew]

but how

i cant open the game

[restive umbra]

They’re going to be an option in your game launcher

In steam for example you right click the game and it’s under properties

[twin parcel]

how tf can drone dissapears? i legit placed a drone on that port, now the status says there is no drone on both sides?

[clever yew]

Thank you

[ornate saffron]

sometiems in 1.1 they get stuck midair. Generally only happens when there is lots of drones though

[twin parcel]

hmm what is the limit ? there is like 100 drones running in my save

[ornate saffron]

that sounds about right

check the qa aite

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @ornate saffron

[ornate saffron]

I dont have personal experience just read it somehwere

[eternal brook]

can someone help me?

[tall lantern]

how do we know if you haven't said what the problem is

[eternal brook]

you're right mb
The Milestone Achievement thing doesnt work

[placid stirrup]

Steam achievements?

[frozen ingot]

it is tempting! and i've seen others do it there

it's on my list of candidates 😄

[frozen ingot]

fugly 😄

[glossy scarab]

is 60 hours to get to tier5 normal 😅

[red sun]

Some people take 6 hours and others take 600

[earnest condor]

Define "normal" 🤷‍♂️

[red sun]

Just a matter of playstyle

[frozen ingot]

CSS might have the stats lol

sounds fairly typical to me

[glossy scarab]

Time to tear it all down to make it 2x better 😃

[frozen ingot]

nah just build something else elsewhere 😄

saying that i do like to start a new game now and then, try and play in a different way, do different things, try and be more efficient or more aesthetic

[karmic elm]

why is my platform not loading up items???

[earnest condor]

Did you set it to LOAD?

[karmic elm]

yes

like

[earnest condor]

Is this a train?

[karmic elm]

it's the platform

it's not taking items

[earnest condor]

.... Is this a TRAIN platform...?

Or is it a TRUCK platform?

[karmic elm]

freight platform

train platform

[earnest condor]

Picture plz. Will help diagnose problem.

[karmic elm]

when i changed the station's name it just stopped

[languid vault]

hi

[karmic elm]

check media

[earnest condor]

Zoom out plz. Let me see the station itself.

[karmic elm]

it's not finished yet

it was taking items earlier and it isn't now

[earnest condor]

Plz zoom out?

[karmic elm]

what do you wanna see?

[earnest condor]

The whole station, finished or not.

[karmic elm]

no

[earnest condor]

Then enjoy solving it yourself 🤷‍♂️

[karmic elm]

bruh

[earnest condor]

Dude, how tf do you expect anyone to be able to help you with a screenshot of just a blocked input?

[karmic elm]

i sent it

[earnest condor]

Train station is backwards.

[karmic elm]

the arrow is supposed to point to where it's going right?

[earnest condor]

Nope.

[karmic elm]

bruh.

[earnest condor]

Arrow points direction train will be travelling as it arrives.
Departure vector is irrelevant.

[neat obsidian]

even in a push and pull train network u face the arrows away from the train track

think about it as if its always coming from the last stop

[earnest condor]

Also if you look at the roof, having the rounded portion facing inward should just feel off to your brain pattern-wise.

[wispy frost]

to make super computers what alt recipes should i use

[twin parcel]

i went from i love drone to i hate drones

the amount of drone went missing is insane .

[proud tinsel]

Omg hyper tubee launcher is supreme.....to infinitely and beyond

[dusk galleon]

I am approaching low power, and just finished my aluminum factory. Do you think I need to build more coal power plants, or will I get a new power source soon enough to not need to

[twin parcel]

if i didnt notice , my nuclear plant would have shut downed completely by lack of stuff making uranium rods or lack of aluminium casing to process the waste into plutonium rods .

[dusk galleon]

I also have a gazillion batteries in case I do go slightly over

[twin parcel]

there is rocket fuel and nuclear , i picked nuclear cuz my laptop cannot handle 600+ fuel gens for sure .

[dusk galleon]

Well I already have a whole turbofuel factory set up

[primal obsidian]

larping as a satisfactory player

hi guys

train

nuclear power

drone system

pasta

[alpine shore]

hello hello, I was wondering if there was a good way to line up conveyor lifts between levels

[primal obsidian]

wdym

[twin parcel]

yes n#c#### pasta

[primal obsidian]

I’m good at satisfactory

how many of y’all have a 240 GW nuclear plant using uranium plutonium and fisconoum

[twin parcel]

i s### , g### f## y## .

[primal obsidian]

it is good for me yeah

[twin parcel]

w### i# 1 G# === ?

1 ### M# ?

[primal obsidian]

yeah man I lost you idfk what your on about

demon core analog

how many messages can I send before someone responds

hello? Anyone there

conveyer belts

satisfactory js a fun game

alien power augmenter

why’s this server so inactive

engineering master class

[vale perch]

brother chill

[primal obsidian]

satisfactory really makes you think that you wouldn’t be able to survive in an alien planet where you develop factories

I have like

4 hours in this game or smth

wait nvm I checked I have like 274

oops

slight miscalculation

[dusky plume]

i got 1000 hours and only 15GW

[primal obsidian]

15 GW what are you doing man

[dusky plume]

playin with legos... I did all the things already

priority power switches are pretty useful

[primal obsidian]

apparently not why do you only have 15 GW

I have a slooped overcloced particle accelerator that consumes double your entire grid bruh

[dusky plume]

yeah, but I don't spend 20 hours planning on how to make a row of particle accelerators... I just make one and get it running

[twin parcel]

i s#### i# h### t### .

[primal obsidian]

huh

[dusky plume]

that's how i beat the game... just build things

[twin parcel]

r####### j### l### ep##### f####

[dusky plume]

didn't need much power

[primal obsidian]

yeah but where’s the whimsy

[twin parcel]

did u afk?

[primal obsidian]

where’s the overexploitation of resources

I’d be hard pressed to make an endgame factory with 15 GW

[dusky plume]

afk? No, I build machine, then look to see what else I need, then build machine, then look to see what else I need

[primal obsidian]

which only consumes 15 GW

[dusky plume]

endgame factory was one floor, 5 machines, taking turns

[primal obsidian]

that is EXACTLY what I did

[primal obsidian]

dawg one of my phase 5 part factories was 10 floors and had 5 train stations

10/min neural something something compiter

[primal obsidian]

#screenshots message man look at this thing

[dusky plume]

hmm

[primal obsidian]

how do you even manage on 5 machines for all phase 5 parts

[dusky plume]

#screenshots message

[primal obsidian]

dang it cant find the screenshot

@glass needle @idle atlas do you got any screenshots of the swamp area

[twin parcel]

dam looks like i wasnt the only one who built a city at swamp lol

[versed mesa]

Hi

I was just having a look at Imkibitz video from 1 day ago am sure he just said he used up all resource nodes woah lol

[restive umbra]

he’s also been working on that save for a long long time

[versed mesa]

Yeah I know he working on many things over time each video lol

[ivory bluff]

Alright, let's go back to my factory that I didn't touch in a week. I only need to set up the ore inputs, what could go wrong?
... Oh boy this is gonna take a while still.

[versed mesa]

I think just one of the best youtubers in building in Satisfactory

[proud tinsel]

Lmfao iam a shitty owner i forgot my cat in a box for 6h while playing satisfactory 💀

[honest flume]

is there an issue with the rain and weather effects in experimental? None of the settings seem to really be changing anything

[ivory bluff]

Hello,
Considering the current version of the game (1.1), is it worth it to try to make a highway work or not? I want to use 3 different trucks using the same pathway to deliver iron, copper and coal to a dedicated factory.

(Granted I may have an easier time just doing an extra long conveyor belt for each...)

[rugged cipher]

I have like 20 tractors on a highway and honestly the most annoying part is setting up the roads. When setting up the tractors or trucks be careful while recording the path as to not mess it up and needing to redo it. Tractors can get stuck on one another however typically they only get stuck once and it never happens again (at least for me). 1.2 will make it a lot more streamlined but definitely doable right now especially with only 3. Just make sure to give them enough space to turn and whatnot.

[zenith quartz]

why are all the memes about the elevated one and what is he

[abstract heron]

slowly working on getting 20k hrs

[void crescent]

The better question is what is he not.

But never question the elevated one

[frozen ingot]

youi don't have to build roads y'know 😄

[rugged cipher]

For what i was working with i definitely did

[frozen ingot]

how so?

[abstract heron]

is 19,633hrs good?

[rugged cipher]

Efficiency. I was using the fuel the trucks were running on for recipies. To lower the fuel usage i needed to shorten its path as much as i could and typically having your rouds on the ground itself is not very much a straight path. I could have used conveyors but it would have been a much greater time sink and would've looked a lot uglier

[frozen ingot]

i would have probably just made more fuel 😄

sounds way easier than building roads

[normal orbit]

building roads is ezpz with blueprints

[frozen ingot]

oh, and also, a dedicated fuel production line for vehicles/drones is generally ideal i would say

true, but the world does have quite the road network already

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/File:Map_Roads.png

[rugged cipher]

Its hard to explain why i needed to do it that way but trust me i speant 20ish hours planning it alone in phase 2 planning for every phase od the game and what i wanted to do. The way it ended up working i was limited on fuel and that was the best way.

[frozen ingot]

i'm just c urious, not criticising

it's one of the reasons why it's such a great game, you can do what you want 😄

although mind you, i still think 'make more fuel' might be quite valid, but i suspect you just wanted your own glorious road network which is totally understandable 😄

[rugged cipher]

Yes. I absolutely understood going into it i should have used trains instead and if anyone saw it theyd agree but i do not regret it.

[lusty turret]

Do you guys normally use single line push/pull trains for your smaller logicstics lines or use trucks. Like i have a map spanning 2 line system, but for shorter distances between individual factories with lower volume do you do like a tier 2 logistics sytem or do you just put it all on the main line

[earnest condor]

Define "lower volume"?

[lusty turret]

Like transferring 20 computers per minute a decent distance

[earnest condor]

Yeah then I cannot follow your initial question.
Because truck stops handling more than train platforms makes it so I'm never thinking about "this is a low number, must be a truck thing."

[hollow hemlock]

that would be hilarious to send via train

[lusty turret]

Truck stops handle more than train platforms?

[earnest condor]

Without contest, yes.

[lusty turret]

interesting

[normal orbit]

well one truck stop to one platform, the truck stop handles more :p

[earnest condor]

Train platform is incapable of pushing 2400/min.
Truck stop can do that.

[earnest condor]

Was this not clear in how I presented it?

[lusty turret]

I guess ill try trucks, i havent used them since they changed how the pathing works

[normal orbit]

they said platforms, plural, and you said yes without contest. so a little bit yes

[earnest condor]

Plural, they still handle more, without contest 🤔

Because 1:1 can be made into n:n and they still win.

[earnest condor]

The new system makes it so much easier to build and additionally know exactly how many trucks you need per route.

[unkempt blade]

a train platform can definitely do 2400/min if it's not a small stack size and the deliveries aren't spaced out too much

[normal orbit]

it can't

no matter stack size

tops out around 2300-ish

[unkempt blade]

oh yeah? explain?

[normal orbit]

the transfer in and out of stations halt during loading and unloading, which makes it impossible to reach max capacity of two belts

[earnest condor]

🤔

[twin parcel]

dam , another reason to not use trains

[lusty turret]

But trains are really cool

[earnest condor]

Stack Size : Max Route Time : Throughput

• 50 : 67s : 1431.17/min
• 100 : 102s : 1793.08/min
• 200 : 187s : 2052.62/min
• 500 : 427s : 2247.83/min

[twin parcel]

i live in a car centric city , so i will be bias towards trains .

[unkempt blade]

I'm just going to continue choosing to believe they can get to 2400

[twin parcel]

just add more platforms i guess

[normal orbit]

one belt buffered with an ISC per platform is fine

[earnest condor]

Yes. Doesn't stop trucks from winning in the throughput, infrastructure, and fuel departments.

Trains win in other areas though.

[unkempt blade]

why even bother with the buffer? just set the route up right

[normal orbit]

cause buffer would allow max capacity of one belt, not buffering it wouldnt

[earnest condor]

Fluid train buff in 1.2 is nice.

But then, we also got fluid trucks, which are god-tier amazing.

[unkempt blade]

🤷‍♂️ I just use "stay until fully unloaded" at the destination station

[normal orbit]

still wouldnt reach max thruput of one belt without buffer

[warped crane]

I am not sure if I'll use any trains this playthrough

[normal orbit]

but if you're waiting for full load, thruput prob isnt an issue

[earnest condor]

They compete with drones imo.

Like extreme range, high volume vs. extreme range, low volume.

Everything less than that can be trucked 😄

[warped crane]

right, and I don't think I'm going to be moving anything that high volume over that high a distance

but I have sort of intentionally created my build in a distributed way where I don't need to do that, so

maybe if I ever do some sort of centralized megafactory

[earnest condor]

There is 1 train I know I will make, one moment.

[twin parcel]

drone are better if ur transporting stuff like pressure cube or low through put items , ez win against trucks and trains on low throughput items and terrains that harder to build any roads or railways .

[earnest condor]

Drone "ez win" against truck is a no, lol.

If you're going 1km the truck wins outright.

[normal orbit]

drone landing/takeoff times are looooong

[earnest condor]

Also, imagine building roads..

[twin parcel]

stuff like pressure cube already requires resource nodes that are already few km apart lol .

[earnest condor]

Entirely depends on how one builds.

Drone wins at extreme distance, low throughput.
That's why I just said I see trains more as their competitor because those also thrive at extreme ranges.

[warped crane]

@earnest condor obviously the solution is to drone it all to one spot and then train it out

just use lots and lots and lots of drones

[earnest condor]

Droning Bauxite ore? Are you nuts? 😭

[warped crane]

😄

[twin parcel]

drones are ez win on modular factory set ups where the final item produced by the modular factories are typically small in numbers lol

[earnest condor]

Build how you wish to build 👍

[twin parcel]

i used packaged alumina solution instead , lol

[normal orbit]

i made a separate trainline around red forest just to collect all bauxite and coal there :p

[warped crane]

actually @earnest condor I think all of those except the 3 on the west are probably truckable

you could just belt those to a single pickup site

[earnest condor]

🤢

[warped crane]

or you could pave the river with glass and use it as a road 🧠

[earnest condor]

Imagine building roads...

[normal orbit]

is that an attack? :p

[earnest condor]

I is are fiercing!

[primal obsidian]

hi

[primal obsidian]

actually I use trains for everything

because cool

I have 50+ stations

I have exactly 1 road

it drives limestone like 1km to the beach

not limestone concrete

[lusty turret]

I actually sorta wish i wouldnt have done modular factories, cause im about to do phase 3, which is the farthest ive ever gone in the game and i can feel the logistic nightmare building in my soul now, i spread everything out way too much

[earnest condor]

🤔

No such thing as too spread out.

Conquer the entire map.

[leaden turret]

-# manufacturer spreading on the subway

[lusty turret]

Do i really not need to do roads for trucks, they can handle terrain fine?

[leaden turret]

they'll handle terrain differently in 1.2

[white dawn]

Correct, they handle the natural roads quite well. (And yeah, the changes coming in v1.2 kind of change how you set up their paths anyway, but they'll still work just fine on the natural roads)

[lusty turret]

Like for example, i have some factories in the dune dessert, on the edges of it on opposite sides, i really just need to transfer stuff across the desert, i dont want to belt it cause it looks bad, i can just truck it straight across?

[leaden turret]

-# referring to the bit where some paths will no longer be valid

[white dawn]

But I've literally never built "roads" for vehicles (apart from relatively small bridges or small areas across rough terrain) and they've always been fine. Takes a bit of practice to learn how to drive "carefully" along some terrain, but it's generally always doable.

[white dawn]

Oh, does the update actually invalidate some existing paths? I'd thought that all prior ones would be valid, just that you might not be able to recreate them with the new system, if you were doing something funky

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Completed Phase 3 today but now things are getting crazy hard with Phase 4!

[lusty turret]

im playing on experimental so

[leaden turret]

it's not that the paths will become invalidated, it's that:

1. existing paths will become legacy paths and be non-editable
2. if you delete and rebuild the path but it has a sharp enough drop in terrain, it'll be invalid

[white dawn]

Should probably chat in #satisfactory-experimental then since the vehicles are handled quite differently in there. :)

[sour cargo]

keep to the "natural roads" as much as you can, that also greatly helps

[white dawn]

Okay, yeah, pretty much what I thought then. :)

But yeah, regardless of whether you're in Exp or not, IMO building your own roads negates one of the primary advantages of using vehicles: the near-total lack of required infrastructure to get them going. If I wanted to be building roads, I'm much more likely to slap down rail instead. Though of course some folks enjoy building roads just for their own sake, so have at it, if you want to do that. :)

[lusty turret]

Okay if im doing trucks in the dune desert, is it worth shipping in packaged fuel from my refinery, or just use the coal that i have locally?

[sour cargo]

you can also blueprint roads to make it easier to place a lot, which def helps too

[short valve]

i can tell this is basic algebra so this is shameful but how do i determine what i do with uranium waste (in terms of how much should be going towards non-fissile uranium vs being used to make plutonium pellets)

[earnest condor]

Game never actually gets to algebra.

It's all just arithmetic done over and over.

[earnest condor]

Is your goal to use Plutonium Rods or are you just trying to suck up as much Waste as possible for sinking?

[short valve]

i like satisfactory so my goal is to use pellets since it lengthens the game lol

though that rationale kind of breaks if it becomes literally infinite

so i can't do stuff that is "useless"

[earnest condor]

Then send everything to Pellets.
You have no need to make Non-Fissile Uranium.

[short valve]

i thought pellets were made from waste + NFU

[earnest condor]

Oh, wait, I blind. One moment 😭

[short valve]

that's the algebra part

[normal orbit]

you got the answer in #math-and-meta

[earnest condor]

Nah. I was just looking at the wrong alt.

[earnest condor]

☝️

I think we are defining algebra differently though.

[short valve]

oh why didn't i get a notification lol. thank you

[short valve]

yeah but there's one right definition and it's probably yours lol. i thought anything with variables was algebra

[normal orbit]

its technically algebra with setting up an equation and solve for x, however, in this case. its very simple so can do it in my head

[earnest condor]

Anything with letters, yeah.
But the game gives you all the exact numbers and it is just +, -, *, / over and over and over.

[short valve]

i just went in a circle trying to figure out how much uranium waste to use on NFU, then "wait my variable is defined using the variable again"

[earnest condor]

You never get into stuff like polynomials, for example.

[short valve]

i THINK i used polynomials the other day trying to figure out how to make ten belts with 20 units/min on each

but my definition of polynomial has atrophied for 20 years from dog videos and the internet so

[earnest condor]

Why would one need to do that when you can have 1 belt of 200? 🤔

[short valve]

to have ten machines that don't accumulate uranium

[earnest condor]

Nothing wrong with a little accumulation 😄

[short valve]

i thought having your factory perfectly balanced was the only way to make a nuclear facility that doesn't accumulate radiation

[earnest condor]

I mean, you're going to have radiation either way.

[short valve]

which is daunting and frustrating and a little emsaculating lol

i mean have nothing stack up until it's eventually full

though i'm pretty sure some of these things would only stack over like a hundred years

[earnest condor]

Yeah, but the difference between "it is irraditated" vs. "it is irradiated" is 🤷‍♂️

[hasty coral]

i have spent i think like over 15 hours making a motor production line as effiecent as possible and lowkey i dont even need nearly as much as i am producing i dont know why i did that

[short valve]

the same reason you do anything

because it's fun. because i want to get a semi when i look at my factory because it's so god damned efficient

[hasty coral]

its beautiful too

[short valve]

when i think about a factory that is perfectly input/output balanced with no accumulation or dead time i like... lick my lips and knead my toes. i get a little sweaty and breath hard

if it were 1% more efficient it would be erotic

[hasty coral]

LMFAO

[short valve]

the problem is i'm also an idiot and can't make the absurd mathematically immaculate factories i see on reddit

i'm clicking rocks together in the dirt over here trying to figure out just-barely-algebra

[lusty turret]

comparison is the thief of joy

[quiet mortar]

Almost noone doesnt do the math by themselves yk

they use satisfactorytools or the satisfactory modeler

its not really hard

[lusty turret]

i cant imagine playing this at all without using satisfactorytools that seems insane

[wary ridge]

my friend really wants to make a giant warehouse to store every automatabble item

does anyone have a table grouping the items together

[unkempt blade]

that's fine, it's a good way to practice some math

[wary ridge]

as I don't really have a good wway or organizing it

[quiet mortar]

My last world i did calculations for a nuclear power plant on paper

it was hellaaa fun

[earnest condor]

Gotchu, one sec.

[hasty coral]

for the first three phases i didnt look up any tutorials or guides and looking back at the builds i just abandoned its a miracle i managed to produce literally anything at all

[lusty turret]

i'll be happy if i can accomplish nuclear using any means neccesary from what ive seen of it lol

[lime yacht]

My biggest wish for satisfactory is more decorative stuff lol

[earnest condor]

Non-consumable items worth storing:

Plate, RIP, Beam, EIB
Pipe, Rod, ECR
CSheet, ASheet, Plastic, Rubber
Frame, HMF, FMF
Wire, QW, Cable
Crystal, Osc
CB, HSC, AIL
Rotor, Stator, Motor, Turbo
Comp, RCU, Super
Casing, Cooling
Concrete, Silica
Fluctuator, Trigon, Time Crystal

36 in total.

[quiet mortar]

not worth storing

they said every item thats automationable

thats not a word

[wary ridge]

see the problem is he wants to store all of them

[wary ridge]

minor typo

[short valve]

if i don't have ten thousand stacks of unprocessed limestone i will literally die

[wary ridge]

automatable

[earnest condor]

If he wants to make things with no use that is up to him 🤷‍♂️

Take everything not on the list and put it in its own section of the warehouse labeled "pointless."

[wary ridge]

good idea

he might kill me

[lusty turret]

lol

[short valve]

trying to draw lines between what is "worth doing" and what is "pointless" in satisfactory is a pointless exercise in self-hate lol

[quiet mortar]

fr

Literally everythings pointless when you think about it

[short valve]

what about cranking your hog

that has pretty tangible benefits

[quiet mortar]

my bad didnt think about that

[wary ridge]

#screenshots message

this is what ia have so far

[earnest condor]

"Worth storing" is the line for "will be used continually while building."

So one-offs and/or things that are used exclusively to make other items (like Heat Sinks) don't make the list.

[lusty turret]

embrace optimistic nihilism

[wary ridge]

exactly thats what i do

[earnest condor]

If he wishes to deviate, he can make his own warehouse and you do not have to help him.

[short valve]

i just count the number of times i go "god damn it i need to start producing those again i thought i had enough to get by"

[wary ridge]

thank god that i have made everything in one place pretty much

with my conveyer clipping insanity

[short valve]

you make me sick

[wary ridge]

i have conveyrs going everywhere

[quiet mortar]

bye guys im gonna continue making my nuclear power plant

wish me luck so i dont lose my sanity

[wary ridge]

its so bad

i have over 15 streams going through one central highway

thatds like 4 conveyer belts wide

[short valve]

you deserve to be locked up

[wary ridge]

its perfection

[short valve]

if it were up to me, left-clicking when you have a soft clearance warning would close the game

you don't deserve to play this game

[wary ridge]

i ahve a bunch of different factories making items and whenever i need one i just take it from another halfway across my factory systems

at least I have highways, I avoid clipping through buildings

[wary ridge]

i am not used to seeing the blue, I think something is wrong, it feels weird

[short valve]

honestly i couldn't figure out how to make a bus that was practical so i just have an increasingly unmanageable mess of patchwork solutions

[wary ridge]

bus?

[thick yarrow]

anyone know how to fix, truck auto routing in 1.2? its not finding the truckstations

[short valve]

a big donut with every item on a conveyer belt that you just pull from when you want stuff, basically. as i understand it

[earnest condor]

All the belts doing belt things.

[earnest condor]

1.2 = #satisfactory-experimental

[wary ridge]

i also don't super math my facotires, i do it vaugely and just power shards or micromanaged the crap out of my factories

[leaden turret]

May 7th, 2026
Q&A: Are there plans to allow Vehicle Paths to link properly to existing Stations?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR3mjuhuaY8t=0

Yeah, currently the best workflow that's recommended is to place your stations on the path that you have built.

[wary ridge]

thats basically what I have with my highways except they are al in once place

[short valve]

i want to do it with flawless math but i'm not smart enough so i resolved to do it this way on my first time through (this time)

[wary ridge]

satisfacotyr tools

[short valve]

i swear some of the people who post on reddit are actual cyborgs sent from the future to cyborganize humanity

[wary ridge]

ficsit sends them

[short valve]

their factories like power the PC the game is running on in real life

[earnest condor]

Most of them are using mods.

[wary ridge]

sushi belts

🙂

[short valve]

in theory you should use sushi belts for all the super low quantity production items

[earnest condor]

Eh, what he described is a "bus."

Sushi belts are a lot.. less, and more specific than a bus.

[wary ridge]

i was makign a joke

as sushi belts suck

[earnest condor]

You mean all items regardless of quantity?

[earnest condor]

Um... says who?

[wary ridge]

me

[earnest condor]

You would be wrong.

[wary ridge]

they can work, but there are issues

[thick yarrow]

good one thanks!

[wary ridge]

and it doesn't feel like the way the game is supposed to work

[zenith quartz]

whats the light beam coming from a far, should i go to it? check pic in #screenshots

[wary ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/bbcan8-big-brother-canada-bbcan-minh-ly-nguyen-cao-who-me-gif-16603743

[earnest condor]

Really?
A system that is incapable of clogging or failing, that does not care if you send the wrong item down the line -- has issues?

[unkempt blade]

it's all the murdered spider cats ascending to heaven

[zenith quartz]

wat dat mean

[wary ridge]

in my experience, i might just be using them incorrectly, but unless you build them a specific way backlog can kill you really easily

[short valve]

no i mean the items that you only are producing in dozens or a hundred or whatever, where there is no threat to ever hitting the ceiling on a single belt throughput. as i understand it at least there is no downside to a "sushi bus" like that

but i am new and preaching what i haven't even done yet

[earnest condor]

You would be building them incorrectly.
Most people do, and then blame the concept of sushi forever after.

[abstract heron]

yay 19,635hrs total

[wary ridge]

i just realized where the name comes from

[unkempt blade]

hard to say, maybe google could tell you

[abstract heron]

365hrs more to go yay

[short valve]

where else could the name sushi belt come from if not from sushi belts lol

[earnest condor]

mk6 holds 1200/min per belt. You can do a lot with that. 😄

[wary ridge]

i am probably building them incorrectly

[rigid wedge]

The employee ada tells you to worry about

[wary ridge]

i just never thought about the origin of the name and what it had to do with sushi

[wary ridge]

from what i can tell you have a conveyor leading to a sink and just smart/programmable splitters coming off of that?

[worn oar]

Any screenshots of your world? It must be pretty beastly by now

[short valve]

yeah i was thinking of a bus at first with dedicated belts and realized it would be like... thicc. it'd be like 50 belts and almost all of them would be an order of magnitude higher htroughput than needed

[abstract heron]

still working on 200 nuclear pasta per minute and having hrs in my world atm 5,792hrs and i am still building

[short valve]

you're like the t-1000

[abstract heron]

i been playing since june 8th 2020 🙂

[worn oar]

9 hours a day

[restive umbra]

I’ve been playing since 1994

[worn oar]

Sure you have, unc. Let's get you back to the cribbage hall.

[loud crag]

Rookie numbers, I’ve been playing since the fall of the Roman Empire

[restive umbra]

ok unc

[loud crag]

I’m like 30, how am I unc?

This is slander

[leaden turret]

okay vnc, get thee to the duodecim hall

[normal orbit]

if 30 is hag age, then its also unc age

[loud crag]

I can’t be considered unc if I know what 67 is

This is truly un fathomable

[ornate saffron]

I know what 67 is and im in my forties

[leaden turret]

we're adults here, we 69

[restive umbra]

idk the Roman Empire is way before my time. Unc

[loud crag]

Holy unc

[worn oar]

30? Do you already have a retirement home lined up yet?

[ornate saffron]

420 smoke that weed

[loud crag]

What’s 9+10

[leaden turret]

a near perfect consecutive pair of bowling rounds

[loud crag]

Holy crap I am unc

Please tell me someone understood that reference

[ornate saffron]

"Im to old to skate, TO young to bowl, and to lazy to change my ways" 🎶

[loud crag]

Seriously? No one knows the “21” meme?

I’m disappointed in all of you

[leaden turret]

I didn't use vine

[loud crag]

I’m immensely disappointed

[leaden turret]

you old because you know what vine is

[ornate saffron]

Asking a group of Neurodivergents if they know your meme is a bit of a stretch 😛

[loud crag]

But it’s such a classic!

After 420 and 69 it’s the classic funny number!

[leaden turret]

pointing out that you're old for being familiar with a meme that was on a platform that hasn't existed in 9 years is #off-topic-general

[stray widget]

Is there a way to disable autosave notifications any more? I found a YouTube video that shows it right above break notifications, but it's not there now.

[proud tinsel]

On the setting I'm pretty sure

After i started building my factory i realised this game have so many realistic stuff but i use floating structures every where it doesn't makd any sense to break the immersion

So i went on fly mode and cleaned my whole world lols

I will also tear down my base leaving only the storage its huge ass flying turd of blocks lol

And will build a realistic looking factories lol

[mortal ginkgo]

Its a daring but a satisfying move. Check youtube videos to train yourself about depth, pillars etc

[ornate saffron]

have YPou tried the search bar

[proud tinsel]

About what you said i decided to go for that after i saw how pillars make the factory soooo realistic it opened my eyes lol

[stray widget]

The search bar here? Yes. 26 results, nothing helpful.

[lavish flame]

hey guys, i just had a question if there's been an update on 1.2's full release perhaps?