satisfactory

[earnest condor]

I just got the game and Ive been watching a ton of youtube videos

😬

What are you building?

[mortal valley]

Im not even sure T-T

[earnest condor]

Then it will never work.

[mortal valley]

something manifold?

[abstract heron]

I often swear at stuff in game

[earnest condor]

When you have "this is the item I am making" come back and we can go from there.

[mortal valley]

Im trying to automate the advanced tier 1 components, I can easily get the metal plates and iron rods automated, But I tried upping the scale of everything and now NOTHING is working T-T And for some reason im struggling so bad with conveyors

[earnest condor]

Are you putting junctions on pipes or placing them first and then connecting?

[earnest condor]

Picture?

[mortal valley]

okie

[lofty oyster]

junctions on pipes should I do junctions then pipes?

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[abstract heron]

Just swear at
The problem

[earnest condor]

Same rules with splitters 😄

[abstract heron]

They would fix it

[earnest condor]

Should it work? Yes.
But on the 1% chance the game bugs out it is better to place them first then connect.

[lofty oyster]

I have no issues putting splitters directly onto belts but interesting

[earnest condor]

Give it time.

Eventually you'll hit the "why is this not?"
And the answer is "lower tier belt still inside a splitter because you put the splitter on the belt."

[abstract heron]

It’s like warming things up I often give my systems a hr or 2 to see if there warm up

[unique vortex]

Do drones need fuel on both sending and receiving ports? Im finding unfueled drones occasionally loitering in my receiving port waiting for fuel

[mortal ginkgo]

I sometimes dont warm up to the systems I made though.

[earnest condor]

Drones will not take off unless they have enough for the entire trip.

[abstract heron]

I am currently
Building 100 nuclear pasta per minute by hand or 200

[mortal ginkgo]

It is safe to fuel them both ends as they lose extra fuel while hovering above. Yes they dont fall down but hovering in standby makes them use fuel (someone else pls confirm)

[unique vortex]

hmm i have 100 rocket fuel in my sending drone port and its not very far from my receiving port, wonder why my drone was waiting for fuel. It stayed landed in my receiving port until i fed it fuel and then the supply chain started again

[earnest condor]

They are never waiting for fuel because that is not how drones operate.

^ As far as in the air idling.

They will wait at a port because as I said they won't take off without the full amount.

[unique vortex]

So they are waiting for fuel then no? Waiting at a port for the fuel?

[earnest condor]

Yes, that is clarified after I understood you meant it had landed.

[unique vortex]

ah i wonder if hovering does burn fuel, this could explain it if so

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes they do, so if there is traffic on landing, they wont have enough to return.

[earnest condor]

To my knowledge they take and consume the full amount on lift-off.
So fueling at both ends is just you burning more fuel for no reason.

This is why you don't get any back if you disassemble them mid-flight.

[mortal ginkgo]

Nope, they don't consume all of it. They spend it as they are flying.

They also dont use the fuel if they are going vertically.

[earnest condor]

Confirmation being from where? (as you asked for confirmation)

[mortal ginkgo]

wiki and some youtube videos

[earnest condor]

I am on the drone wiki page atm and I don't trust YT for shit about this game 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

Dear Lord have mercy upon thy soul.

[abstract heron]

And then just swear at it

[earnest condor]

?

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, thats good.

[earnest condor]

YT continually gives people horrible information on Satis. Why would I trust it?

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, ignoring it 100% is something else. Without youtube I wouldn't find a way to make mk2 pipe 100% work

[earnest condor]

You needed YT to think about fluid physics and slosh concepts?

[abstract heron]

When I mistakes I just swear at the game first then fix it

[mortal ginkgo]

I use it to research too as I made my own tests.

I dont need to 100% ignore and rely on it at the same time.

I might be an Impure Limestone Node, but I can think.

If a YT video is wrong, so what? I go watch another one. And if that one is wrong, I go watch anime.

[abstract heron]

I might be making 200 nuclear pasta per minute idk

[mortal ginkgo]

how can you NOT know?

[abstract heron]

I making it even and if I have to spawning on extra ore and such

I have 1008 molduar frames per minute made now working on beams

For hmf

3 lines of 336 per minute

[primal obsidian]

let’s load up my save and see what I was doing

haven’t been online in like 6 months

I remember that my train system was messed up

[abstract heron]

I have to see when I get on and see how much

[hollow mountain]

do you guys build close to hard to get resource when you need it or you just mine and ship it?

[void cliff]

yes

[plucky bone]

I seem to start by copper, iron and limestone then ship in /make factories elsewhere. I usually keep the base items one spot and factories seperate.

[white dawn]

Personally I build near the resources if at all possible. For later-game parts where that starts getting infeasible, I'll often have geographically-dispersed "subfactories" to make intermediate components

[hollow mountain]

i think ill start doing that

[cobalt crater]

God, unlocking Oil Processing is a hard drive muncher.

[hollow mountain]

thats why you get all of them

[plucky bone]

Some planning depending on start location helps. I always look at more than one recipe needed and try to find a common spot for them kind of. Sort of a factory here for this tier, steel here, electric here, sam here, etc. but I also do belt roads, trains etc. Sometimes visualizing the size is hard. I seem to think it's big enough never and it's too far for a belt but it isn't.

[quiet mortar]

[hollow mountain]

i hate belt road are they really worth it

[pseudo crest]

In terms of total needed or the RNG? Just in case, are you parking the rolls on drives which offer recipes you don't need so they're not available to roll on subsequent hard drives?

[cobalt crater]

Just so many things unlocked.

And yeah, I'm parking unneeded stuff

[glossy scarab]

What does a pure coal node with a fully overclocked m 3 miner make

[cobalt crater]

Pretty sure all pure ore nodes cap at 1200

[hollow mountain]

1200

[glossy scarab]

Important

[unkempt blade]

yeah but which ore is the best and why is it limestone?

[plucky bone]

Well. Last playthrough I seldom used em. Now instead of a huge rail network and drones I went with belts. Trains yes. Tractors yes. Drones Meh. And yes I went with a highway at a certain Y level that was the same as my home place and it turned out good. It has it's pros and cons though. "Spaghetti" shows up fast, and lifted belts somewhat drive me. Definitely different this time. I think better. But the "Build in the air" takes some getting used to and it is a bonus for travel for sure. No more terrible F's when killed by a monster near a node. Just temporarily build down and clean up house. Inf lift is good too. And I use world grid for it. Then all connect easy if needed. Only miners are off grid because they fit nice on 2 foundations and I make a little building for em all.

[unkempt blade]

no just use factory cart routes instead

[cobalt crater]

Packaged Diluted Fuel is it's own alt, right?

And I shouldn't need Fluid Packaging, yeah?

[glossy scarab]

Is more no?

[cobalt crater]

What?

[unkempt blade]

packaged water is an input for it so you'd still need to package stuff

[normal orbit]

you need fluid packaging to get and use diluted packaged fuel...

[cobalt crater]

Yes, but do I need it to unlock the alt

[quick hound]

But what if I use water as a package?

[normal orbit]

yes

[unkempt blade]

not sure but the wiki could tell you

[cobalt crater]

The Wiki only says after T5 Oil Processing

[quick hound]

How many factory carts are you using now?

[unkempt blade]

about 2 kilocarts

[quick hound]

2 thousand carts!? That’s it?

I’m disappointed in you.

[unkempt blade]

that's fine, feel your feelings 😄

[quick hound]

I think you need another 3 thousand factory carts to make a proper, efficient facotry.

[cobalt crater]

HANK! HAAAANK! Don't abbreviate Packaged Dilluted Fuel!

[quick hound]

Why? It’s just a Picture Document File abbreviated?

[normal orbit]

whats wrong with DPF?

[cobalt crater]

Finally unlocked HOR alt after a half dozen drives

[cobalt crater]

Going to get some spheres and sloops while I keep scanning drives

me, scanning hard drives for the Packaged Diluted Fuel files

[plucky bone]

Not bad. I was cursed. Took me 22.

[cobalt crater]

Got time to kill and alts I can park

[vapid nexus]

hi guys!

Im building a really long pipeline right now and one of the three pipes just isnt pumping oil as fast as it should, any ideas why?

[cobalt crater]

Alright, can confirm you only need Oil Processing to unlock Packged Diluted Fuel

[quiet mortar]

Fluids are a mystery

they sometimes just dont work

[vapid nexus]

indeed, i used on this one line more than 6 mk2 pumps, on the others only 1 and it still doesnt work

[cobalt crater]

It can be a number of things without an image of what's going on

[vapid nexus]

can i post images in here?

[normal orbit]

no

make a thread in #1038092680493801533

[primal obsidian]

#screenshots message i remember now why i stopped playing

[quiet mortar]

omg

[next ivy]

all cars ?

[primal obsidian]

what

[normal orbit]

time to learn signals? :p

[next ivy]

oh theyre trains ?

im not familiar with error signs

im too good to ever see them

[primal obsidian]

i know signals that was someone on the server who left and the train they parked was still there

[spare barn]

Guys for 1.2 when my friend joins the game for the first time to the server he always can't move etc. but whenever he disconnects and rejoins it works

is anyone else having the same issue?

[quiet mortar]

rip

[primal obsidian]

my nuclear power plant is so overpowered aswell

atleast when its working

[nimble canyon]

Why is one of two freigh platform not loading the box on train? Any ideas?

[cobalt crater]

Does your train have enough freight cars?

[normal orbit]

are they set to load and are they powered

[cobalt crater]

Pretty sure they're powered through the tracks

[normal orbit]

they're not

they're powered from the backside of the station

[cobalt crater]

Monorail tracks carry power

[normal orbit]

yes, but not to freight platforms

[cobalt crater]

I don't think freight platforms even have line connections

[normal orbit]

they're powered thru the station

so if you flip the station wrong way around, they're not powered and wont accept items/work

[cobalt crater]

Pretty sure the direciton of the freight platform doesn't matter beyond which side you want your belts

[normal orbit]

it definatly does

[cobalt crater]

Nnnnnno.

[normal orbit]

the freight platforms need to be behind the station

[cobalt crater]

The only station that matters in terms of direciton is the normal train station

[normal orbit]

you cannot put them infront and expect them to work

[cobalt crater]

Well, obviously

I thought we were both working on that assumption

[normal orbit]

by far the most common issue people do is placing the station backwards so the freight platforms are infront of it, not behind it, so they dont get power

[cobalt crater]

The only station issue I've noticed from new players is they don't have the Train Station the right way around

[restive umbra]

Who up building they factory rn

[coarse path]

Got any tips before i start my power plant? I dont want my world to explode

[nimble canyon]

Just found out what caused the train to not load anything… Forgot I set it to only load something specific xd

[cobalt crater]

That would do it

[unkempt blade]

use as many factory carts as you can to move stuff around

[coarse path]

What carts again?

I took a small break from the game i dont knoe exactly the names of everything

[unkempt blade]

you unlock them in the awesome shop

[coarse path]

Ohh yeah

What items do i need to transport then

[unkempt blade]

all of them

it'll make your factory more joyful

[untold moat]

Someone give me two random percentages, between 0 and 100.

[wise forge]

67% and 69%

[normal orbit]

66.6%

and 17%

[untold moat]

Thank you

[unkempt blade]

300% and 9001%

[restive umbra]

67%

[coarse path]

Im kinda someone that loved perfection id rather keep belts😅

But like

Anything else i should know before i start?

[unkempt blade]

Yes there is. The best ingame weapon is the

[coarse path]

Im talking bout my nuke power plant

Also, wrong

Isnt that the rifle with turbofuel ammo?

[unkempt blade]

too inaccurate, the basher always hits

[coarse path]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-gaming-dance-gif-10137387965009279547

[coarse path]

Oh

[mortal ginkgo]

RIP BOZO FULL CAP FR FR LOLBBQKEK

[coarse path]

Shut up impure node

Imagine being impure instead of pure

[mortal ginkgo]

wow, low blow bro 😭

[coarse path]

Hahaha

[mortal ginkgo]

Yeah instead of being a seductive mistress that promises 1200/m, I am a HONEST MAN doing HONEST work.

Its not much, but it is HONEST you know.

[coarse path]

Yeah

💪

[weak pulsar]

how many fuel i need for a fuel powered generator at 100%?

[normal orbit]

20/min

[unkempt blade]

none, you should be using liquid biofuel instead

[glossy scarab]

How much satisfactory is not enough satisfactory?

[unkempt blade]

depends on how many factory carts you're using

[glossy scarab]

1 cyber wagon

2 cyber wagons*

[unkempt blade]

oh ok in that case you're wasting your life and you should go outside instead if that's how you play

[glossy scarab]

Thanks man 😃

[floral snow]

anyone know why my walls are doing this #screenshots

[abstract heron]

Which is yours

[floral snow]

most recent one

w the train stations

[abstract heron]

I don’t see nothing wrong

[floral snow]

i have walls placed in the back

and they js like spaz out

[green lily]

What walls

[compact knot]

i think it s a glitch everyone has this issue

[green lily]

Oh

[compact knot]

they flicker

[floral snow]

yeah rlly bad

didnt know if it was a graphic setting or smth

[green lily]

It could also be render distance

[compact knot]

i see it on content creators streams as well

[floral snow]

nws then ty ty

[green lily]

Would you say this counts as “fan art”?

#fan-art

[frosty plover]

I need to do this

[mortal ginkgo]

I personally wouldn't and more fitting to "reddit post" in reddit

but it is cute so I wouldnt mind it either

[unkempt blade]

no but I truly appreciate the beautiful mind wall aesthetics anyway

[quiet mortar]

Frieren

[hollow turret]

Omfg

And me barely with 700 hours 😭

[unkempt blade]

just play every minute you're awake for the next 3 years or so and you'll get there too!

[hollow turret]

Bet

[desert ermine]

is geothermal power any good?

[dense violet]

its easy?

and extra power.

[desert ermine]

so its not spectacular but its easy extra power

[dense violet]

it's basically zero work

it's not a lot of power though if you look at the whole map. I think only like 6gw or something?

but can certainly be put to good use depending on your goals

[white dawn]

You can also abuse crash sites and tamed lizard doggos to unlock them quite a lot earlier than you're "supposed" to, at which point their power output could be pretty significant

[desert ermine]

im setting up 10gw of coal power right now so that i can expand to complete phase 3. i just happen to also be near a lot of geysers.

[dense violet]

I mean if you want to connect them all doesn't cost much

I usually sit on 64 coal gens until phase 4 personally

[desert ermine]

im probably gonna switch to fuel generators at phase 4

[white dawn]

I usually have up to 64 coal gens but then also do Fuel. :D

[dense violet]

yes but you're weird 😛

[latent prawn]

it has a place. as the only renewable power in phase 1, its useful if you're not trying to rush to coal power

it also is often enough power to establish a mining outpost without much infrastructure

[chilly nova]

Finally bought the game for myself! Time to start working in the save the game program!

[slate comet]

would be cool if devs integrated the cartographer mod into basegame

[crude canyon]

Welcome!
Did you see anything prior about the game?

Protip: you can tap space at the workbench to autocraft your stuff!

[untold moat]

save the day*

[dense violet]

they are trying to reduce performance impact. Not murder it

[slate comet]

it doesnt even affect it that much, and could be alwas an on/off feature

[dense violet]

I've seen it, it does. significantly.
it also doesn't do much for it

take an image in SCIM and you're good

[chilly nova]

Yes, I already have some experience, used to play in a friends computer, got to tier 5&6 a couple of times

[desert ermine]

ive gotten into the habit of building hypertube railguns between key factories and its the best thing ive done so far. no more driving a truck around unless exploring.

[untold moat]

honestly its the thing to do once you get decent power production and remote facilities.

also im deciding what I should do for my next playthrough, should I do one mega-factory or should I do satellite factories... (not concerned about logistics or efficiency or computer resources, just leaving the decision to the public)]

[desert ermine]

update to 1.2 and do a mega factory fed by trucks

that's what im working toward

[white dawn]

I mean, it's the Thing To Do if you're willing to use hypertube cannons; not everyone is. :)

For me, the Thing To Do is passenger rail. :)

[desert ermine]

its not even a cannon its just a tube with 8 entrances at the start to make the travel super fast. more entrances for longer distances.

[white dawn]

Oh oh, misread you then. :D Thought you were talking about the open-air "cannon" sort

[desert ermine]

nah i run the actual tube because you lose a lot of the time you "save" when falling after launching.

[white dawn]

(though I do still like my passenger rail. :)

[desert ermine]

also its kinda cool zooming by everything in the tube

[untold moat]

oooo, thats an idea... now to figure out where to put said factory...

[desert ermine]

im gonna be putting mine on the plateau with the pink trees and bamboo

the spot between the forest and southwest plains

[white dawn]

Proponents of hypertube cannons would probably want me to point out that you've got a couple options for really quick access:

1. Watch where you land and slap a U-Jelly pad there. May need some adjustment, but if you go into the cannon at the same speed each time, your landing point should be basically 100% reliable. No slowdowns at all, basically
2. Jetpack puffing doesn't really slow your horizontal motion at all; so long as the cannon's pointed in about the right direction, you should be able to get there pretty quickly so long as the cannon's not overshooting you

Though yeah, I'm not personally a fan of the cannon anyway so I dunno why I'm semi-advocating-for-it. :D 🥳

[untold moat]

also if you structure it right and have it fire you in a high arc instead of a long one, you can have much more horizontal control and precision for where you land

@azure lintel about the metro map you posted in #fan-art back in november, what exactly was your thought process in that design?

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/458217769515876352/1443356160299110420 (for others who don't care to scroll)

[azure lintel]

That's a callback lol
Well, I first mapped out all the locations I set up factories in previous saves, like Glog Hub, Herenjustice, etc. Then, considering the types of factories they are and what resources they needed, I routed the trains together close to specific ore deposits and to their respective locations. Also, I used the in-game map to route the trains around soft inclines as to avoid cliffs/precarious building spaces. Then, it was all pizazz after that.

[keen birch]

t1 blueprint too small to make coal power blueprint the way id like, mildly annoying >:/ dang smokestacks

[untold moat]

I miss the breif period of time when the building collision hitbox was a mesh around the build instead of a box, so you could stack coal gens on top of each other and have the smoke stacks be the only thing moving them in further and further.

[untold moat]

thanks! and out of curiosity is the map itself handmade or did you use a tool to make it?

[azure lintel]

basically hand-made, everything that isn't text or perfect shapes are hand-traced with snapping guides in inkscape. that includes the map and the lines.

[shadow talon]

When you make a new world, when can you access the map?

[azure lintel]

Unfortunately not, as the map is a thing you have to unlock every time

[shadow talon]

I made a new world but i cannot access the map

Oh i see what you saying now, thanks for the explanation!

[azure lintel]

Yeah, you gotta first unlock tier 1 field research, then unlock it with the required materials.

[azure lintel]

Ah, alright! no problem.

[untold moat]

ah well, i am always looking for new and unique cartography things, but understandable, thanks

[azure lintel]

if you want some interesting tools that could make the design process easier, I recommend MetroMapMaker and tennesine dot co dot uk slash metro

[desert ermine]

i am beginning to see the problem with my rotor build. it requires 1000 screws per minute when running at full speed

my belts do 480 items per minute.

[violet glen]

well, usually you can just make two or more screw lines

[azure lintel]

manually fill inventory and deposit

become one with the logistics

[desert ermine]

yeah but i need to completely redesign the top of this building to use an alt recipe now

[dense violet]

use steel screw, direct feed into a machien that doesn't need more than 480pm

[desert ermine]

i switched over to steel rotors

iron pipe + steel rotor. now the top of the building will be much smaller and will have a spot where copper sheets come in from a smaller factory nearby.

[quick verge]

Hello, my problem was that I bought Satisfactory in its very early days and the slugs, orbs, and somersloops were totally unusable and in the beginning you couldn't get rid of them... yeah, I made mistake, so I have 50% less than all of you I juste hope I can finish the game😅😂

[dense violet]

start a fresh map, the entire world has changed as well as many recipes

also the story line is broken if you don't start a fresh map

[untold moat]

honestly so long as you don't have a single machine running more than 480 screws I/O, you should be fine

[somber flint]

does anyone have a solution to what i sent in screenshots?

[desert ermine]

its a single manifold in the center of 2 rows of machines

it cant move enough items

[untold moat]

and what of the third dimension?

[untold moat]

have you tried restarting the game?

[somber flint]

not this session iut gets worse and worse over time during every session

sent a pic on how it looks for new session

[desert ermine]

its already been torn down and the build would require me to run sloops in at least 1 building if i wanted to avoid running a third belt. the new build is way more compact.

[untold moat]

are you using mods?

[somber flint]

nope

[untold moat]

to each their own. I have helped a lot of people (who also happened to be factorio vets) who kept having issues with throughput until they realized that they have 3 dimensions to work with instead of 2

[desert ermine]

my builds are all vertical

[untold moat]

what are your graphics settings?

[somber flint]

all ultra and cinematic

lowered the graphics and now its just blurry distant lights

[proper cradle]

really want a vr experience of satisfactory...

[somber flint]

that would be kinda fun ngl

[proper cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c8q5YO_Ngg just really dont wanna try and keep mods up..

it looks so insane.

[elder jolt]

realistically, how much power would u normally need by the end of the game?

[void cliff]

You can do two sushi belts to get higher inputs to an assembler

[flat wedge]

I’d say around 150-200k

[elder jolt]

interesting... it seems that at the cost of 32 somersloops, i can acheive 144k mw of power

is this worth? 🤣

[earnest condor]

20 GW.

[somber flint]

@vernal topaz now ive gota horde slugs thanks

[vernal topaz]

you are welcome :3

why make power shards when you can make slug belts roller coasters :3

[earnest condor]

Shards are infinite 🤷‍♂️

[somber flint]

lmao i cant wait for the really fast conveyors so i just have neon streaks

[latent prawn]

the game is easily beatable in the 20-60gw range if you're not trying for continuous production of all of the elevator stuff

[somber flint]

me with plans to sombersloop all the elevator stuff the whole game(ima have power issues)

[latent prawn]

there's only 106 of them, use them wisely

[somber flint]

so on stuff that take a billion screws, got it

[earnest condor]

How you use your 103 somers is entirely your choice. There is no wrong answer!

[somber flint]

have they added water trucks i haevnt played in a while?

[earnest condor]

No, there are no water-specific trucks.

Generalized fluid trucks are in 1.2 which is currently on Exp branch.

[dense violet]

Define end of game?
You could easily finish phase 5 on 30gw

But if you treat your game like a sandbox after, which imo is the real game, you could need a couple hundred gw pretty easily

[latent prawn]

usually an oil node or two being made into rocket fuel is sufficient

[desert ermine]

a demolition charge to drop old structures fast instead of deconstructing everything would be nice

[vernal topaz]

not yet for me x3
also technically so are slugs due to doggos

[earnest condor]

also technically so are slugs due to doggos
Which is what makes Shards infinite 😉

[sleek delta]

tie the feature to the toilet- when you flush, all buildables within a 100m radius disappear and leave a single giant crate of parts to pick up

[inland notch]

why is it called industrial storage container

bro the game has factory in the name every container is industrial

have you guys ever thought about this

why is it not just called double container lmaoooo

[latent prawn]

the word in swedish means both 😛

[inland notch]

wym?

what is it called in swedish (im assuming the devs are from there)

[latent prawn]

i don't really know that, i'm just ribbing you

[inland notch]

lol ya got me

finally got my sam fluctuator factory up, now I can put all those ||mercer spheres|| to use

[earnest condor]

I too enjoy ||unnecessarily blacking out|| stuff that has ||been in the game since 1.0||. 😏

[abstract heron]

I DID IT!

or close to i did it

19,590 hrs on record

[latent prawn]

only 16 full days till your goal

[abstract heron]

yes or about month depends

[abstract heron]

410hrs rough guess

[abstract heron]

Still working on on my big project

[neon pine]

Anyone know how to fix the bug where trains get stuck with a red outline

[inland notch]

did what?

[latent prawn]

hover over them in delete mode

[inland notch]

20k hours?

how much time even is 20k hours

2 and a half FULL years

do you ever turn off your computer

[neon pine]

I put 400 hours into the game the first month I played it (there are 672 hours in a month)

[abstract heron]

and yes i do turn off my PC and do have breaks every summer due to IRL heat

[inland notch]

that is...

not enough sleeping hours lmao

[neon pine]

Oh it wasn't

[inland notch]

but doing the math now thats about 8 to 9 hours a day every day for 6 years which I can definitely see how that happens with this game lmao

[abstract heron]

i am currently making 100 nuclear apsta or 200 nuclear pasta by hand

[neon pine]

The depressing thing is that this save is now softlocked because I screwed up my nuclear power plant supplylines and now I can't get the power grid to restart

[inland notch]

why 🤣

i havent gotten to tier 8 (9?) yet but I believe that must be grueling

[inland notch]

couldnt you have cut off the sections and just focused on powering the plant

while you rebuilt it

[primal fable]

I am really looking forward to 1.2. I have been on break since my second full playthrough and am refreshed.

[neon pine]

The problem is partially that I'd have to rebuild the entire 57000mw power grid from the ground up because the whole thing is just a giant spider web (my partner and I were playing together and we both built out big sections of it without really considering the organisation)

[inland notch]

i see

[primal fable]

I never tried nuclear.

[inland notch]

well ive learned to plan ahead very early on so im good rn

the first time I tried the game I was spaghetting everything and it was horrible and I didnt have fun with the game

[neon pine]

It also relies heavily on trains to move oil around

[inland notch]

oof

[neon pine]

I'm definitely putting more time into the organisation on this playthrough

[inland notch]

not building the power plant next to the oil nodes?

[neon pine]

Nope, I was incredibly intelligent and decided to build the fuel power station on top of my main factory, several km from the oil source

[inland notch]

lmaooo

[neon pine]

It worked well until it didn't

[inland notch]

tbh that is probably something i'd have done in my first run too

if I got that far, which I didnt (I gave up on coal cause of course I did)

but really i have no idea how I messed that up cause coal is so easy to do

[abstract heron]

I bought the game june 8th 2020 Steam release day 🙂

[neon pine]

#screenshots message

I'm currently looking for suggestions on how to upgrade this into my T3 factory. Kinda got "factory builders' block" atm, I also have plastic and rubber being made at a separate factory down the coast beign shipped in by rail

[abstract heron]

@quartz magnet remember can't talk in #screenshots

only to post screenshots

[quartz magnet]

Am'I alone to post text with pictures ? The answer is no, so say that to all, please. Thanks Have a good one, peace

[abstract heron]

i thought u going to chat my bad

[quartz magnet]

np

[runic path]

i havent gone super late game before but are motors used much?

[sick falcon]

is there any way to make a swatch automatically apply to everything i build

[sick falcon]

yes, motors and their upgrades are probably the second most used component in the game

[runic path]

okay i was just asking bc im going to make a mega factor for motors just not sure how many to go for per min

[sick falcon]

dont make anything huge until youve unlocked the quartz alt recipe, it doubles the amount of motors you get by just adding a crystal oscillator to the recipe

[white dawn]

My own advice is to not do a huge motors factory, but instead just make whatever you need right now (in the knowledge that you'll need to make more later)

[twin parcel]

#screenshots message
the elevated slug

[white dawn]

Easier build, no guessing about quantities, more opportunities to make use of different locations + alt recipes, etc

[abstract heron]

oooooo 19,592 hrs on record

[twin parcel]

i nvr used that recipe , the default recipe is fine , i used another recipes that consumes control rods instead

[unkempt blade]

you should use all the recipes because it's fun

[abstract heron]

@unkempt blade

[unkempt blade]

more!!!

you could cross the line in less than 3 weeks if you tried hard enough

[twin parcel]

Nah I hated making crystal oscillators . I avoided them till got drones .

[abstract heron]

ik but IRL comments and also warmer temps coming soonish

[unkempt blade]

that's why you have to gut it out and finish strong!

[abstract heron]

i am going to try to get it in a normal time

[abstract heron]

But ill ping u and mikael and jason when i reach 20khrs

ik its Do able but with IRL heat and i also do other things instead of playing all day

[abstract heron]

i just hate playing in summer due to IRL HEATT

[reef basin]

Kilohourradiusseconds?

[abstract heron]

huh

[reef basin]

khrs

(hours are just h)

[sterile blade]

Right click on the swatch to select what new buildings it should apply to

[crisp mantle]

did they break train signal in a recent update? i can't get this intersection ive built 100 times to work

[reef basin]

use #1038092680493801533 and share images with segment colors

[crisp mantle]

not sure what the issue was but the 3rd time i broke and rebuilt it, it decided to work

[worn oar]

It was shy

[tender shard]

@timid pike

@dawn helm

[dawn helm]

queitos

Hey my friend zabi cant join

[drifting light]

god, there really should be an option to hold E to split off with the hypertube branch

i would love to make a system of stops along a speedy hypertube but the reaction time needed is just crazy

[worn oar]

If you're going to make your regular hypertubes into cannons, it's worth getting the hypertube exit anywhere mod

And placing the branches would let you enter back into it from the stop

[drifting light]

well i get that, but that's a lot less of an elegant solution than i'm looking for

[worn oar]

Yeah...

[drifting light]

just being able to set a big glowing billboard as a sign for you to start holding E would be so nice

or being able to hold E to keep speeding up around a circular accelerator

i get it wouldn't really work with the junctions, but branches...

that would be so sick

[opal basalt]

True

Or a 4 way q for left and e for right

[crystal cedar]

why are all the items on a conveyer belt blurry is there anyway i can fix it?

[strange vortex]

I losed motivaton to play Satisfactory. What do I do?

[chrome iron]

Dont play

Pioneers are built to make their own decision

[strange vortex]

Idk what to do

[zenith pecan]

Take a breakj, the game will still be there when you feel like picking up or starting fresh.

[strange vortex]

Idk what to do during the break

[glacial totem]

I've just unlocked trains and I'm really overwhelmed. Can I just use them to get from site to site? Or do I need to step up my game and use them for transporting resources?

I never tried using trucks/truck stops, maybe that was a tutorial mode for trains

[heady yacht]

did hitmarkers/hitmark sound get removed? 😮 i havent played in a couple months and when shooting something just now i didnt get a hitmarker or a sound 🙁

[valid epoch]

I am finishing phase 5 today, this is the end of my first every playthrough 😢
All my grandioze plans went down the drain.
No bustling train system, no fleet of trucks, no production line from source node/ raw materials to finished product without feeding machines manually most of the time and/or crafting manually.
At least I managed to get at some point stable 140GW from my Fuel Power Plant in the abyss near the crater.

Now I will wait till 1.2+ become stable and gonna play again with all the new features and QoL.

[crude canyon]

You can keep playing and try to do all that for the golden nut

It's 1000 coupons

[valid epoch]

Nah, I want to make a fresh start in the future and implement all the things I missed or didn't use this time around.
Probably will stick for a while to make some blueprints of my own that I could slap unto a new save.

[glacial totem]

This sounds familiar!

[normal trench]

Dude these clocks are so confusing

And console like rounds them? Like I can’t do 10.33, only 10.35

So I can’t make it perfect

[viral tendon]

Somersloops are GENUINELY the best item in the game

[somber shard]

Is there any ETA to 1.2 coming to stable?

[leaden turret]

some time between the 19th of may and the eventual heat death of the universe

[somber shard]

Well thats a rather large time span

[viral tendon]

So sooner than a new machine, nice!

[somber shard]

Why may 19th tho

[viral tendon]

Its someone's birthday i think

[leaden turret]

dev streams are usually on a tuesday

[somber shard]

I see

[sick crane]

I want to post a picture here where can I do it

[viral tendon]

#screenshots

[toxic lichen]

You can just send a message link to reference so we know what you on about

from the ss chat
not a link from imgur or anything

[sick crane]

It isnt a screenshot

[viral tendon]

Ok

[reef basin]

what kind of picture?

#screenshots is pretty bad for anything other than showing off your factory, not sure why it keeps getting recommended

[viral tendon]

It is literally for any screenshot related to satisfactory

[sick crane]

My theory about the massage 2 system

[viral tendon]

It's in the name

[reef basin]

not really, it's for game screenshots

[viral tendon]

Yeah so related to satisfactory

Except memes probably

[reef basin]

ingame screenshots

[viral tendon]

Maybe instead of aruging with me you'd help a person in need

Just a suggestion tho

[reef basin]

I'm helping them. I asked what kind of screenshot it is

[viral tendon]

They literally replied?

[reef basin]

possibly #satisfactory-memes then 😛

[normal orbit]

its not a screenshot, they said its a picture

[viral tendon]

Screenshots are infact pictures

[reef basin]

yeah and I was replying to you first

[sleek cargo]

good morning chat

[reef basin]

but not ingame

[sick crane]

But it isnt a Meme

[viral tendon]

Pictures can be ingame but sure

Some pictures aren't ingame

[viral tendon]

Theories aren't memes

[reef basin]

well, you could probably put it in #math-and-meta

[reef basin]

they aren't screenshots either

[sick crane]

It has nothing to do with math and meta

[viral tendon]

if you take a screenshot of a theory that you made in photoshop for example it is a screenshots

You're taking a shot of your screen

[viral tendon]

for factory builds, material ratios

[reef basin]

and so on and so forth

[sleek cargo]

good morning everyone

[reef basin]

it's kinda meta

[reef basin]

no, because it's not ingame

[viral tendon]

You already said that 3 times

[reef basin]

and you still didn't understand that apparently

[viral tendon]

.

"but sure"

I literally said sure

[reef basin]

and yet you're here suggesting that screenshot of a photoshop is somehow ingame screenshot

[viral tendon]

Point out where i said that they should post a theory in screenshots after i agreed with you

[reef basin]

I'm talking about this

[viral tendon]

All i said theories can be shown off as screenshots

I didn't say theories are ingame screenshots

[reef basin]

yeah, but not in #screenshots , as that's for ingame screenshots

[viral tendon]

Where did i say anything about the channel?

[reef basin]

that's the whole conversation's point

[viral tendon]

All i said theories can be screenshots in global view

It is not, the conversation ended where i agreed with you

Anything after that is not related

There's no point in arguing with you after i admitted you're right

That makes zero logical sense

[toxic lichen]

whats shatter rebar good for ;-;

just stunning creatures?

[viral tendon]

Yes

[toxic lichen]

sigh

i need phase 3 for boom boom rebar :/

[normal orbit]

shatter rebar doesnt stun

it turns the rebar gun into a short range shotgun

stun rebar, as name implies. does stun

[toxic lichen]

oh hm

still useless to me ;-;

[normal orbit]

shatter rebar does more than double damage to a normal rebar

[toxic lichen]

hmmm

nope
still dont need it ;-;

[hard ivy]

yes but that means you get to stick nobelisks on them

clusters are op when placed underneath

[sleek cargo]

im getting scared to know what tier 5 will consist of 😭

[normal orbit]

nothing new really

[sleek cargo]

really?

[normal orbit]

just more fluids

[sleek cargo]

oh okay cool

[normal orbit]

the main mechanic is byproducts that you need to deal with, but its just more of what you've been doign so far

[thick cave]

Hallo

[crude canyon]

Honestly just skip phase 5 automation

Just automate the belts and that's it

[sleek cargo]

really?

[reef basin]

No

Automate what you need

[sleek cargo]

okay cool

[copper laurel]

I will need 1301 Constructors later on 💀

[sleek cargo]

may God have mercy on you

[copper laurel]

I just checked it and I have in fact enough space for that, more than enough considering that I can squeeze all of them on the first floor of my Iron/Copper factory already

[tawdry jay]

I want start annihilation of all spiders on map

Forever

[copper laurel]

Understandable although I play with the arachnophobia mode on just so I can hear them better

[tawdry jay]

I'm bot arachnophob, but it doesn't mean I don't hate them as I see this little beach, most of my dies was because of this damn spiders

[empty bridge]

Hi All. Is there a calculator or tool that can tell me how many screws I will need (no alt receipes) for 100 x Adaptive Control Units?

[dense violet]

depends on the recipes you use

[dense violet]

but with only base recipes theres this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=YS3uSvEDA43PEcnT8XNW

[hard ivy]

The in-game todo list

[copper laurel]

I also don't suffer from arachnophobia but I can hear the meow way better than the normal hisses and know from where they will come plus that cat hologram is way better visible

[dense violet]

looks like zero screws according to the item list I think?

oh no wait, missed it, 21,000

[tawdry jay]

Wait, arachnophobia mode turn all spiders into cats?

I definitely have try it

[dense violet]

makes them easier to see too

[tawdry jay]

But it means I can't kill tham

I love cats

[dense violet]

you won't have a problem with these ones

[tawdry jay]

Got it

[empty bridge]

to-do list doesn't break it down to screw level

to-do list doesn't break it down to screw level

[copper laurel]

Oh god I just realized if I make enough power I can cut all the buildings I'll need roughly in halve because of the ||summer slopes|| I could use🤦‍♂️

[copper laurel]

Ah so you are one of the pioneers Ada could successfully motivate by telling you, you could save kittens and or puppies

[sleek cargo]

This will be documented on their file.

[copper laurel]

I can only be motivated by the idea of making a perfect factory

[visual current]

🐟

[sleek cargo]

i personally enjoy deforestation and filling the atmosphere with smok

[copper laurel]

That is part of a perfect factory

[tawdry jay]

I ll do, I've already done phase 4 with rush, now I have to build Super-mega-bigerr-factory, with others mini super-mega-bases

I guess It will take my half of life

[wild phoenix]

True

[quick verge]

Thanks bro✌️❤️, that'll teach me to buy the game incomplete and start playing immediately was not a good start xD. Needless to say, the game is nothing like the one I bought(When Satisfactory was released unfinished, I bought it immediately) and I love the final version. I think I'll just try to finish the game and then start the story again. I have approximately 1500 hours of gameplay. XD

[dense violet]

it's changed a lot since u3, but I played it from u3 to 1.0 . lots of fun 🙂

[viral tendon]

Is it bad to think that drones are lowk mid

[thick cave]

i don't even have drones

[viral tendon]

The fact that they require fuel is bad

It would be cool if drones were crafted with a battery that charges in drone port

[rich parrot]

There is a mod for that.

[viral tendon]

I am not using mods.

[unkempt blade]

you should just use factory carts instead

they're way better than drones

[viral tendon]

Factory cards are valid for resources that you get in small amounts

For example rcu or crystal oscillator

[unkempt blade]

just use more carts on the route #screenshots message

[tacit canyon]

They can carry stuff?!

[unkempt blade]

plus we're comparing to drones where the downside (beside high fuel and power cost) is the low throughput

[unkempt blade]

yep, same way tractors or trucks do

[tacit canyon]

Crazy

[latent prawn]

answer is that you need zero screws for acu's

[viral tendon]

Yeah 1 slot

[thick cave]

truck suppermacy

[viral tendon]

Trucks are genuinely sub 5 in terms of logistics

They're the coal power of logistics

[quick verge]

I literally have two things left to do before finishing the game and I only have 5 drones. XD

[viral tendon]

Drones suck

There's not a single reason to use drones

[quick verge]

It's worthless, I agree, except when you have to collect crap, like crystals. That's literally the only thing my five drones bring me: crystals.

[white dawn]

I mean, except for the fact that they're basically item teleporters with nearly zero infrastructure cost. :)

I agree that if you've got a robust train network going on then rail can continue carrying you onward, though even then, drones are amazing for the edge cases where rail is difficult to get to

[rich parrot]

Yeah, I like drones for centralized setups. Flying in supercomputers and whatnot from across the map is worth it, when the central location has fuel supply for all the drones.

[viral tendon]

And need a whole ass fuel production

drones are useless, trucks are bad, trains are alright but conveyors are just superior

[white dawn]

I mean, like 120/min packaged rocket fuel will support nearly 50 drones

That's, like, nothing.

[ornate saffron]

For you, like most things in this game its subjective and its a matter of user preference. I personally do not like the high infrastructure and time cost of building train networks

[viral tendon]

Which needs a whole another factory

[white dawn]

I mean, good thing I'm playing a factory game where my goal is building factories, I guess. :)

Do you complain that you need to build a factory to provide power?

[rich parrot]

Lmao, that is two refineries and a blender.

[viral tendon]

Trains also aren't efficient for logistics

[white dawn]

Anyway, I think you've got a bad case of confusing your own opinions for facts, and just want to bitch about it, so I'll disengage. :)

[viral tendon]

That requires finding a spot where all the resources are nearby

[white dawn]

Enjoy being salty at some of the best features in th game. :)

[dense violet]

there's a reason they are blocked

[viral tendon]

That smile does not fit with the words you say

I just don't see a reason to why you would use drones instead of conveyors

[rich parrot]

Try Blue Crater. It is all in the same spot there. You can just use a drone to fly fuel to your central from there.

[viral tendon]

Reddit talk

[viral tendon]

Intresting

How fast are drones? Are they faster than trains?

[native tapir]

@viral tendon you might be an asshole, but you are technically correct about the conveyors

[viral tendon]

The guy literally ignored my point about conveyors and proceded to argue

Maybe drones aren't useless but conveyors are just faster no?

[native tapir]

Everything is bottlenecked by conveyors in the end, so yes conveyors are technically superior

no load/unload time

[rich parrot]

Depends on the fuel. Packaged fuel is 50 m/second, packaged ionized fuel is 100 m/s. The rest is from that range. Even at its slowest pace that bad boy moves 6 foundations per second.

[native tapir]

They are messy as hell though

[viral tendon]

This guy gets it

[viral tendon]

I just use foundations to make them more organized or conveyor lift to avoid pasta

[zenith pecan]

My next factory will be needind a drone tower due to distance & low throughput.

[native tapir]

It doesn't matter how well you organize them. They won't be as clean or space-efficient as drones or trains.

so that's the trade off

[viral tendon]

Who even thought of making them slower than trains?

[viral tendon]

Trains are less space efficient that conveyors tho

[zenith pecan]

I use a tunnel network for mass belts, it remains organised to a fault.

[viral tendon]

I mean look at the size of rails

They're 3x size of conveyors

[native tapir]

@viral tendon how far in the game are you? A conveyor bus is never going to beat a train in terms of space and organization past a certain point in the game

[viral tendon]

Completed the game once and trying to complete phase 4 on another save file

[zenith pecan]

The rail size compensates by what can go on it at once, the stations are huge though.

[native tapir]

Again, you are technically correct that conveyors are "better" but many people do value organization and order. Conveyors, even the most beautiful conveyor busses ever made in this game, are not as neat as a train and they are much harder to re-organize later too.

[rich parrot]

Yes, but you can have dozens of trains on the same rails. The throughput of rails is significantly larger than conveyors. You would need dozens and dozens of conveyors to compete with rail throughput.

[viral tendon]

Also the fact that train stations aren't 2 way sometimes may create a lot of trouble

[unique trail]

can i copy a color direct from a wall?

[native tapir]

Not really. Easy to work around.

[viral tendon]

Just saking has anyone done math on that?

[viral tendon]

It is easy but it takes some space

[native tapir]

You don't need to do math for that

[zenith pecan]

That bit did disappoint, I'd love a two dided platform and the rules for unload/load order.

[viral tendon]

Well it varies on the mk of conveyor belt and size of the train since if it's too big it's going to be slower

[native tapir]

Nope that's easy to work around too. Add more locomotives.

You can trust me on train speed lmao. I'm an expert.

[viral tendon]

But wouldn't they collide?

[rich parrot]

Probably. But I could tell you right now that a single dual-rail setup can carry at least 60k items per min, when a single mk6 belt takes 1.2k.

[unique trail]

hello?

[zenith pecan]

Debating on rebuilding my mixed drone towers again, the helix bundle inside was a pain but it allowed drone sushi.

[native tapir]

no

i wish

[viral tendon]

Holy shit

[unique trail]

and how can i find out what color i have used

[native tapir]

You can also make a train go 2550km/h

[hard ivy]

the theoretical max throughput is on the order of 100s of 1000s of items per min

[viral tendon]

That is crazy

[native tapir]

it's not practical but possible

[mortal ginkgo]

Doug please stop being Doug near beginners.

Thanks

• Limestone

[native tapir]

until 1.2 hits then we lose that lmao

[reef basin]

speed is irrelevant, throughput is

[native tapir]

he's completed the game I'm douging his ass

[viral tendon]

I am not a begginer big dawg

[native tapir]

it's actually big doug*

[viral tendon]

But he's not doug big doug

[native tapir]

oh my mistake

you're right he's impure doug node

[mortal ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-a-joke-just-a-joke-penguin-cute-im-not-joking-gif-17171068

I know gifs don't work here. But it is very important for your health to click the link.

[unique trail]

how can i find out what color i have used?

[rich parrot]

Sounds about right. For all practical purposes rails enable almost infinite throughput (when built right).

[sterile blade]

#satisfactory message
TLDR: ~150k items/min per single-direction rail

[native tapir]

all to be bottlenecked by conveyors haha

[viral tendon]

I'm not to serious big impure limestone node doug

[mortal ginkgo]

Doug I have been impure twice today:

• First, I noticed that my entire half of my building is 1 foundation off from the rest. It was troubling to get it fixed.

• Second, I thought fluids were wack as heck, but I had headlift issue.

[native tapir]

1. free yourself from the world grid

[mortal ginkgo]

Alright big dawg. You won this time. But I will be back. With more impure thoughts!

[native tapir]

2. fluids are perfect

[viral tendon]

This is why trains are better than trucks and drones

[viral tendon]

Im scared

[rich parrot]

Untrue. You can unload to a container with two belts from a platform, then unload from the container with a single belt. That eliminates animation delays completely.

[native tapir]

unload the container onto a what?

[hard ivy]

then you're limited to 1 belt per platform

[rich parrot]

Precisely. You just scale your train. Need 12 belts of items? Have 12 cars per train.

[sterile blade]

Trains can't use jumpads, so they're clearly and objectively inferior to trucks
Just like belts are inferior to trains and trucks because they can't honk

[viral tendon]

I only use trains to travel tbh 😭

[unique trail]

can someone answer???

[native tapir]

oh the new trucks can't use jump pads either so 🙁

[native tapir]

Yes I can answer

[viral tendon]

What if we add a sound output to a conveyor?

[hard ivy]

you could squeeze out 1.5 belts per platform though
or even more, depending on belt speed and stack size

[sterile blade]

Too much nuance for my low-level jokes

[viral tendon]

Now i need to make fused modular frame

[unique trail]

and what is the answer??

[native tapir]

you can't.

not easily

[unique trail]

why not?

[viral tendon]

The process isn't that bad but the turbo motors that i unlock with modular frames do

[native tapir]

fantastic question.

[mortal ginkgo]

I want rusty sound of ovicici ovicici

[native tapir]

I also want to know why we can't color sample

[unique trail]

but i know that i could copy direct from a building in version 1.1

[native tapir]

You can copy buildables

with middle mouse click on pc. But you can't just grab the color

[mortal ginkgo]

lets not talk about colors right now. 1.2 is in regression state and we lost/got borked a lot color related functions

[unkempt blade]

Why do you hate fun so much? Is your production not high enough to make extra fuel for vehicles?

[native tapir]

Elaborate on what you mean

[sterile blade]

Because colour swatches never got enough love
Iirc, we still have some nasty bugs around colours not even saving properly...

[fluid sapphire]

sounds like skill issue 🤷

[native tapir]

@unkempt blade trains also can't go to space and back to the ground easily in 1.2. So drones are superior in that way now too.

[mortal ginkgo]

"Colors not correctly working, sometimes causing pure black display. We lost gradient in 0.5 signs as far as I know. They look very odd from var away with artifacts (all signs). THey are still blurred heavily even after seconds of staring directly infront of them. We currently cant save color templates."

[native tapir]

In fact, my outer space factories will have to rely on drones until/unless I figure out a new belt teleport and/or space train setup

[sterile blade]

But drones still don't honk...

[native tapir]

oh sick.

[unkempt blade]

Why not just make the biggest train spiral ever? It sounds like a lack of commitment to me

[native tapir]

@unkempt blade I would

[quick verge]

You know you paid for the early version when you start achieving things you would normally have had years later.

The classic one is a 10 km conveyor, my friend, my conveyor is 300 km, and it's one of my shortest. 😅👌

I find myself with 1500 hours of gameplay and almost no early achievements unlocked.

[native tapir]

but you can't build the train rail through the killbox anymore

[unkempt blade]

why are the devs intentionally ruining trains?

[viral tendon]

I think it would be funny if we could set something like conveyor throughpu rate counter but instead it would make a sound

[mortal ginkgo]

I lowkey blame you and your team for devs to find out some stuff that didn't need any fixing kek

[sterile blade]

"Early version" of what?

[native tapir]

it's not that. They ruined vertical rotations and vanilla megaprint tricks.

You could never build in the hard kill zone.

But now you can't even make anything big enough to build "past it" if that makes sense

[viral tendon]

Idk i just don't like the thought of dealing with all those routes to transport fuel and going somewhere on the other end of the map to package fuel that i'll also need plastic and oil for etc etc

[quick verge]

Satisfactory, I'm talking about when they released it on Steam the same day I bought it and it was largely unfinished, it was an early access game. XD

[native tapir]

100% our fault

and we will continue to shitpost until they are too exhausted to be bothered

[fluid sapphire]

its so easy though, set up a packaged fuel production somewhere, a couple drone ports, send drones to fetch fuel to where its needed from where its needed

[native tapir]

There will always be another bug

[sterile blade]

Oh, I completely misunderstood what you wrote before, my bad 😅

[viral tendon]

And i just find it too complicated idk

[quick verge]

Now I want to know what you believed, please tell me. 😂😭😭

[viral tendon]

I like building factories and putting a conveyor belt through the entire map more

If i couldn't use conveyors i'd use trains since they need less managing

And don't need fuel

[quick verge]

It's relaxing.

[viral tendon]

What? Putting conveyors through the map or managing drones?

[quick verge]

Conveyors, I started when there was nothing else but conveyors, they became my best friends, and it's so relaxing to use them instead of drones, you having to run left and right to see if they're okay.

[sterile blade]

It's not really worth detailing, I was just having a hard time understanding what you meant at all, at first, as I wasn't sure what you were talking about ^^

[viral tendon]

we ALL love conveyors

[quick verge]

Don't worry, my friend. Let's just say English isn't my native language, so I understand that this might be confusing. :3

[quick verge]

MK 6 are the best!!!

[unique trail]

my buildings ar invissible sometimes in 1.2

[mortal ginkgo]

Maybe you have shy buildings

[normal trench]

Im sorry what are you guys talking about

[unique trail]

stupied answer

[normal trench]

What are those

[mortal ginkgo]

no u

[normal trench]

No me

[sterile blade]

Ironically, trucks (Dunno about drones) are more fuel-efficient than trains
Ie: trains burn more energy than trucks to move the same items

[mortal ginkgo]

no ur mom LOL GOT'EM BIG BRO NO CAP FR FR KEKLOLBBQ

[unique trail]

it was a serious fact, i cant see the buildings

[native tapir]

It really depends on how much time you have right now

[normal trench]

Its a different energy source though at the same time

[sterile blade]

Tbf, this kinda makes sense if one were to account for energy lost in conversion xD

[native tapir]

Known bug. #satisfactory-experimental

[normal trench]

A lot

[viral tendon]

Well energy is energy you always produce it instead of packaged fuel

[native tapir]

Reddit.com/u/OfficerDougEiffel

Have fun

[mortal ginkgo]

You are stating it in general chat big dawg, and it is a known issue

[native tapir]

Go back to the train wars posts. Somewhere around that time you'll see what I was talking about

[normal trench]

Thanks

[sterile blade]

You could power them both with the same energy source, trucks just skip the fuel->electricity part (even using different fuels, one can easily compare their energy amount by MJ)

[viral tendon]

What about the packaging and refinery energy consumption tho

[sterile blade]

It's a bit more nuanced than that...
No energy source comes close to the convenience of shoving the output of a Coal miner directly into a fuel input (Vs needing at least also water to run coal generators)

[normal trench]

At the same time, autism

[sterile blade]

Packaged fuels are just some of the fuels aviable for use. There's quite a few choices for different preferences ^^

[viral tendon]

What else do you use tho? Biomass? Batteries?

[sterile blade]

The aforementioned coal is quite convenient, by sheer simplicity and aviability

Mine - > use as fuel
Least steps required of any other process

[normal trench]

If you have a nuclear plant and havent automated ficsonium, just put plutonium fuel rods in it

No waste

[sterile blade]

Though, it does make anything fueled by that quite... spicier to be around 😅

[sudden current]

Does anybody have a screenshot of an example manifold setup in Satisfactory Modeler they could send my way?

[normal trench]

Uh

No

Hope this helps

[sudden current]

You could just not comment then.

[sterile blade]

Modeler isn't made to design individual logistics, it easily lags when one tries to use it for that

[normal trench]

Ik I was joking

Thats the reason I said it

[steel kelp]

Just use the splitter boxes, but imo its easier to just do the math and make a note outside of modeler

[sudden current]

Oh I'm autistic I can't tell sometimes

[normal trench]

Im also neurodivergent, I get it

Most satisfactory players are

Or they are engineers

Which are also mostly neurodivergent

[sterile blade]

If you just want to see how manifolds work, the wiki page on "manifolds" is probably a good start

[steel kelp]

Its a bit of a pain to setup manifolds in modeler though i tried it when i first started using it. An alternative is to limit your boxes by belt speed as well

[sudden current]

That is why I need the example. I don't think I understand how the splurgers work in Modeler.

[normal trench]

I just use satisfactory tools

[normal trench]

Think of it as a merger or a splitter

[sudden current]

I'm just very new to everything.

[normal trench]

Are you British btw

[sterile blade]

I strongly suggest against trying to implement any splitting more complicated than just "merge and Overflow" in Modeler. It is not fit for that and will fight you tooth an nails when you try... (ie: it's cumbersome to do and makes the tool lag)

[sudden current]

No I'm American.

[normal trench]

Oh

Great, they put beans on toast there

[steel kelp]

You dont really need to use them tbh, by default everything can be split. You can draw more than one line from an input/output

[steel kelp]

Yeh 1000% agree lol

[steel kelp]

But this is more for larger scale logistics rather than individual machines imo

[sudden current]

What program would you recommend for "drawing" manifolds. I usually just draw everything but I'm trying some digital tools today.

[reef basin]

why draw them?

[quick verge]

Fact am ADHD

[steel kelp]

MS paint lol?

[sudden current]

I like to see the whole plan before I start building in game

[sterile blade]

I suggest learning the game first, then maybe starting to get into external tools; online tools arent normally made with complete new users in mind, they expect you to be familiar with the game already

[sudden current]

No but like with math. People aren't understanding me. It's ok.

[normal trench]

Me too, it’s very severe:D

[reef basin]

you can build in game and use that as your plan

[normal trench]

Sensory issues really suck!!

[steel kelp]

I don’t think any tools like that exist unfortunately

[steel kelp]

But they clearly dont want to do that and have explained why lol

[sterile blade]

Do you want to "draw" just manifolds or your factory in general?
If so, why this distinction?

[sudden current]

OK thank you

[reef basin]

they clearly can respond themselves

[sterile blade]

Not any particularly well developed ones... 😅

[normal trench]

Actually one does, use numbers from satisfactory tools or modeler, and draw on paper

[quick verge]

YES!!! XD Honestly, it's been a long time since I went to the doctor for my ADHD, especially since I don't want to tell him that I've stopped my medication. Satisfactory is now my medication. 😭😂😂😂

[viscid olive]

Me, in my most recent playthrough, entirely ignoring throughput for the sake of just placing stuff down finally

[normal trench]

Make a key and make symbols for like mergers splitters, conveyors and lifts

And use graph paper and do it to scale

It’s how Ive planned stuff

[steel kelp]

Fr lol

[normal trench]

I just bring graph paper with me places

[sudden current]

I just simply can't do this. My brain doesn't let me. Things have to be planned and neatly arranged first.

[viscid olive]

I’m working through it, it’s not easy

[reef basin]

I mean what better way to neatly arrange them than to plan them ingame? 🤔

[quick verge]

That's what bothers me about my ADHD, I have a moment where I want to put everything in order and when I start, I create chaos.

[abstract heron]

yay btw 19,595 hrs on record

[sterile blade]

For sake of complete information: the most used softwares/tools to "draw" factory-related stuff seem to be SaLT and Draw.io; only the former is satisfactory-specific

[viscid olive]

That’s why ignoring numbers has been crucial because otherwise I get so caught up in them that I won’t even begin to build lol

[sudden current]

I don't understand what you mean. Sorry. Planning like drawing and preparing for a specific output. Don't see how you do that in-game.

[abstract heron]

405hrs more to go

[reef basin]

well, usually you have two steps, math and layout

assuming math is already done, you can do layout by placing machines ingame

[normal trench]

I actually have a tip for this, use swatches on concrete foundations or patterns to mark out areas

There are a couple ways Ive found to do it

[viscid olive]

I love making big concrete pads for my things it’s so clean

[sterile blade]

Funny how often I forget how useful that simple method can be...

[steel kelp]

SaLT looks really cool id not heard of it till now

[dense cargo]

i am gonna cry bcs of this pipes

[sterile blade]

Unfortunately, development seems to have stalled a few years ago and hasn't resumed since...
Still, it's worth mentioning as some people seem happy to use it 🤷‍♂️

[sudden current]

SaLT seems exactly like what I'm looking for.

[steel kelp]

I will defo use it @sudden current i think its what you’re looking for as well, but with less of the math done for you

[sterile blade]

Eg: it has no machines released in/after 1.0

[abstract heron]

why cry

[sterile blade]

No need to cry, just hop on #1038092680493801533 😉

[sudden current]

This is a very helpful community. Thank you.

[normal trench]

Hey what are your guys favorite movies! Ik this is off topic but I just thought it would be fun to ask

Mine is project Hail Mary, if you haven’t seen it, go see it

[white dawn]

#off-topic-general is best, in that case. :)

[normal trench]

Oh great thanks

[versed mesa]

Is there a live today ?

[abstract heron]

maybe but idk

[versed mesa]

Damn I need to see when we getting the proper release

They will leak it soon

[abstract heron]

Soonish and maybe soonish

[elder reef]

im just starting this game does anyone know if the things that will be added in the newupdate will be availble in my world or should i wait until 1.2 is released to start

[thick cave]

i dont see why they wouldn't be

[zenith pecan]

Nothing major, start now and take your time.

[abstract heron]

I still play 1.1 due to mods

[thick cave]

they at least hold alot

[zenith pecan]

You can experiment then start over at your leisure should you choose to.

[viral tendon]

Trains hold more tho

[thick cave]

they take a while to get from point A to B

usually

[sterile blade]

Maybe they'll announce the release date in tomorrow's video? 🤞
(Friday is the day new videos/big announcements are published)

[viral tendon]

150 km/h big dawg

Faster than drones

[thick cave]

station 5 km away:

[versed mesa]

I think they running live stream again today

[sterile blade]

Drones should be much faster than trains, iirc

[white dawn]

The amount of time any logistic method takes to get from A->B doesn't matter apart from the initial setup time. Once the delivery is running, throughput in == throughput out.

[viral tendon]

They travel 100 km/h on nuclear fuel

[thick cave]

arent they like
almost instantanous?

[normal orbit]

trains max speed is 120km/h on flat tracks, they can go faster going downwards

[sterile blade]

I think they'd want to keep the release date for a proper Friday video/announcement... I'd expect them to at most confirm that they're ready to announce a release date during stream

[viral tendon]

Only 120 on flat damn

Yk maybe drones are faster

[normal orbit]

drones go 100m/s at max, which is a heck of a lot faster than a trains 120km/h

[versed mesa]

Nah they do tell us in a live

[normal orbit]

even the poopiest drone fuel, 50m/s is faster than 120km/h

[sterile blade]

I'm inclined to think they would just announce the release date for the release date on stream (I think they did that for some Updates in the past)

[versed mesa]

Thats what am saying maybe today's stream

[viral tendon]

Oh it's 100m/s and not km

Yeah drones are faster

[sterile blade]

Didn't you say they'd announce the actual release date during stream?

[normal orbit]

100m/s = 360km/h

[versed mesa]

Probably i know they will let us know when it will drop on stable branch

[viral tendon]

33.4 m/s is faster than 120 km/h

[unkempt blade]

yeah but none of these are faster than a factory cart driving on a mk6 belt

[mortal ginkgo]

broblz

[viral tendon]

WE wish we had a belt that is 3x bigger than what we currently have so we can transport more resources a minute and hnave 3 factory cards riding it

[mortal ginkgo]

a bigger belt is called train

[viral tendon]

Trains don't speed up factory carts

[normal orbit]

you can drive a cart ontop of a train

[viral tendon]

Mk6 belts are faster than trains

[normal orbit]

they're not

[viral tendon]

What how

[normal orbit]

mk6 belt is ~ 85km/h

[viral tendon]

But like

Trains are 120 km/h on FLAT surface without a quintillion storage carts

[mortal ginkgo]

Lowkey it is silly to not make a smol cart station in 1.2 which is mostly focusing on vehicles.

Like dude, have it 5 stacks of storage or even less, with just faster load/unload animation, and it is set

[viral tendon]

If they add batteries that you can use with trucks and drones that you have to charge and they're ready to go i'm going to give them my life

[normal orbit]

you can use batteries in trucks

[viral tendon]

Dispoasble batteries tho

[mortal ginkgo]

Well I can assure you, you will continue live.

Chargeable batteries would just make it too easy.

[viral tendon]

Not the car ones

Oh wait

Car ones aren't chargeable

Car batteries have longer lifetime

[viral tendon]

So do conveyors

[normal orbit]

wat

[mortal ginkgo]

wat

[normal orbit]

car batteries can be charged, what are you on about

[viral tendon]

Don't people jsu buy new ones in most cases

Like we do in satisfactory but instead of buy we craft them

[mortal ginkgo]

LOL BIG DAWG NEVER SEEN A BATTERY IN HIS LIFE AND YAPPING 100% PERCENT FULL CAP FR FR LOL BROOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[unkempt blade]

I agree with Ryan. Conveyors need a fuel/power cost to run to make things fair vs vehicles

[viral tendon]

Big dawg are you high

[normal orbit]

just... no

[mortal ginkgo]

Conveyors need rubber.

[viral tendon]

No but fr how do conveyors operate without power

[mortal ginkgo]

what about doors?

[unkempt blade]

it's hacks, only cheaters use conveyors

[viral tendon]

Just imagine some mf loading up his first world and to place a mk1 conveyor he needs one ruber

[unkempt blade]

that would be an acceptable upkeep cost!

[viral tendon]

So you can't automate anything before rubber and plastic

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, game could tell them to go for a crash side to find rubber if possible. Would be a good insentive to explore.

...

KeK.

[unkempt blade]

phase 1 and 2 are easy - just go handcraft some stuff

[mortal ginkgo]

Big dawg lowkey sneakily introduced maintenance to the game as if it was nothing

[viral tendon]

I'd rather refund the game 😭😭

[viral tendon]

I'd rather rewatch the big bang theory 12 times than do phase 1 and 2 without automation

[unkempt blade]

why'd you watch it the first time?

[viral tendon]

Uhhh

I liked young sheldon

So i figured id like the big bang theory

It was kinda fun don't know why do people hate it

[sterile blade]

What about the pioneer with Blade Runners on...?
Because running on a MK6 belt feels very close to train speed

[viral tendon]

WHAT IF

FACTORY CARTS WITH BLADE RUNNERS!!!

I'M A GENIUS

[normal orbit]

dont rightly know how much speed you have when slide running on blade runners, but wouldnt surprise me if its close to 120km/h

[unkempt blade]

but a cart at full speed is faster than blade runners!

[mortal ginkgo]

I was watching a Foundry gameplay. It seems you can assign robots etc to tasks in computers to make those machines be more efficient with cost etc. More like Power Shards but with more steps.

But I.. I liked it. It felt less alone.

[viral tendon]

JUST GIVE FACTORY CART BLADE RUNNERS

[mortal ginkgo]

bro blz ztop zmokin'

[normal orbit]

running ontop of a train makes ya launch yourself pretty quick tho

[unkempt blade]

they really should let use equip items to vehicles

I need hovertractors and bladecarts in my life

[mortal ginkgo]

I THROWED AWAY A BEAN WITH EXPLOSIVES, MADE SURE TO SCARE HIM SO FAR AWAY WITH RIFLE AMMO! WHY IS THIS GOSH DARN MF IN MY LOGISTIC FLOOR CHILLING?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

[viral tendon]

Where do the flushed liquids go

[unkempt blade]

they just bottle them and sell them to you from the drink machine

[viral tendon]

My game keeps crashing after i bought a dbd dlc is this a sign

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes.

[viral tendon]

Do people die after joking about 67 in this server

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes.

[viral tendon]

Ok

[zenith fractal]

thhee lizard doggos need some drinks too

[viral tendon]

Do lizard doggos like havy oil residue

[pliant prawn]

anyone familiar with SCIM? Im trying the interactive map for the first time and dont know how to turn off my map markers

[viral tendon]

Everyone is familiar with scim here big dawg

[viral tendon]

Are you exploring it with your save file?

[pliant prawn]

ive been playing since update five and this is my first time lmao

oh wait I figured it out. its the radars button

[viral tendon]

Cool

[wispy osprey]

It's been a decently long time since I've played this game