satisfactory

[twin parcel]

i prefer 20 overclocked reactors over 200 fuel gens overclocked fuel gen cuz my fps will drop , learned my lesson from 2400/min packaged diluted fuel factory i set up .

[jagged smelt]

I honestly don't know, but it doesn't hold enough to be viable for that use.

[twin parcel]

build a train , stuff all the waste, derail them to the ocean , repeat .

profit

[jagged smelt]

OK new mod idea. Automated train placement.

[merry thunder]

Good morning afternoon evening and goodnight how are you doing today?

[white dawn]

NPPs can fit into blueprints without mods

[twin parcel]

yeah , just one

not two

[white dawn]

That's not the same thing as "nuclear reactors can't fit into blueprints"

[zenith pecan]

Urgh, sooner or later, I need to build 250 or so nuclear generators.

[twin parcel]

dafuq u gonna do with one reactor ?

[white dawn]

Also: if you're already in the habit of building each factory from scratch, then your existing production (for the aforementioned oscillators, aluminum, etc) doesn't matter. :)

[white dawn]

1 NPP == 10 Fuel Gens. Best-case scenario in a blueprint is you can fit 4 Fuel Gens in there.

By your logic: dafuq u gonna do with .4 reactors?

[twin parcel]

...

[white dawn]

What you do with an NPP in a blueprint is have all of its logistics (inputs/outputs, etc) already hooked up, ready for power, etc.

Can slap down a line of them quite trivially, like you can with any blueprint

[merry thunder]

any idea how to make a good coal and water power area

I have 11 up and its OK power but they are not sinked

[rare egret]

using blue print mk 1 i just saved myself a -2 hours

[merry thunder]

thanks

[white dawn]

Basically, find a spot on the map which has a collection of 3-4 coal nodes right next to water, and build your coal gens there. There's a lot of spots on the map which are basically custom-built for that purpose

[merry thunder]

alright then

[white dawn]

Once you've found such a spot, build your coal gens in groups of 8 coal gens + 3 water extractors. Build as many of those modules as you can stand building! And then make some more later if you need to. :)

If you mention where you started out, we could probably nudge you to a good coalgen spot. :)

[merry thunder]

so I started on the new pionear area

I just found a 4 coal nodes

I mean I found 4 sepreat coal noads

[white dawn]

The first one? Grass fields? (Where the foliage is all green and reasonably Earth-ish?)

Ah, if you found somewhere with 4 nodes and there's water right there, then nevermind anyway. :)

So yeah, build your coal power right where both of those exist, and just run power lines back to your other stuff

[worn oar]

Bring coal to water, place machines, connect machines, connect power, done

[merry thunder]

grass fields

[worn oar]

Preferably with foundations

[merry thunder]

oh thanks

ya I am gussing you cant really build well on just the ground

maybe build a tower

[white dawn]

re: "bring coal to water" -- indeed, if you are going to build somewhere where there's not both coal and water, then bring the coal to the water (instead of the other way around). But IMO it's far better to move neither. Just find a spot which has both; there's a lot of them out there

[unkempt blade]

It's the only good way to build. Foundations are too boring to drive factory carts on

[merry thunder]

got ya

I am not brand new to the game

I am working on Jet packs

but I still don't really know the power game

[unkempt blade]

you want a huge biomass burner array for maximum efficiency

they only consume fuel when you need to draw power unlike all the other inefficient fuels

[prime oriole]

Does anyone make Doggo enclosures? I have occassionally seen all doggos kept in 2m wall enclosure despawn. Right now I'm making a "kennel" using construction fences and that looks almost okay aesthetically.

[grand ether]

Fair. I recommend you find some way to get warned in case storage is about to get full tho, maybe some sink that is constantly drawing power then suddenly stops bc waste got to it. Idk

[unkempt blade]

just make sure you use glass walls so you can see all your wonderful doggos

[clear aspen]

Whenever I have doggos I tend to treat them with the same respect as my kerbals

[merry thunder]

I have a small dog kennel with two dogs in it at the momment

[normal trench]

I had a lizard doggo

Hes somewhere

I haven’t seen him in like 40 hours

[earnest condor]

Kill it.

[normal trench]

what

Kill who

[earnest condor]

Shoot it in the face with spiked rebar.

The lizard.

[normal trench]

I can’t find him

[stoic surge]

do we already know 1.2 release? approx?

[normal trench]

Nope

[earnest condor]

Cluster Nobelisks. Don't take any chances.

[normal trench]

:p

[clear aspen]

Or strap it to one of my KSP rockets

[normal trench]

He’s not in my base at all, Hes a free spirit now

I’d have to bomb the map

[unkempt blade]

ya that's why you use a pen

[unkempt blade]

it's always going to be tomorrow, just believe harder

[normal trench]

Tomorrow? As in deltarune tomorrow?
DELTARUNE TOMORROW?!??

[merry thunder]

how do I get the cyber truck

I want to crash one

[fiery pewter]

Sink a ticket

[normal orbit]

Then have 20 more ready

[twin helm]

Anyone trynna chill on vc while we play our own maps? Im on ps

[fiery pewter]

#1201555265942724758

Kinda
Sorta

[twin helm]

Aint trynna play mp lol

[fiery pewter]

That's why I said kinda

nonconvergent out here writing a book or something

[twin helm]

Lmao

[prime oriole]

I am verbose

[leaden turret]

#streams-and-videos then

[twin helm]

Allat for 3 words

[prime oriole]

I am also autistic so clear communication takes time and effort and still I am misunderstood

[fiery pewter]

I feel that

[prime oriole]

We all move at our own speed

[fiery pewter]

Suddenly nonconvergent is a whole lot more fitting

[prime oriole]

Obviously I put what I was writing in the clipboard to respond

[leaden turret]

ride on someone's shoulders, move at their speed

[abstract heron]

Me working on my hrs 19,553 hrs on record TOTAL and 5.712hrs in my current world

[prime oriole]

#screenshots message
The only problems with this setup

1. I have to hop the fence to get their goodies
2. The slight clipping of the backwall and the fences
3. To put a 2 doggo in a tile's kennel means I have to stack another fence on one of their neighbors temporarily.

I'm thinking about recessing it slightly and trying a catwalk maybe.
Kinda like how zoo enclosures work.

[unkempt blade]

hurry up and get to 20 kilohours!

[abstract heron]

I AM WORKING ON IT

[prime oriole]

I wish we had turf or garden foundation materials.

I leave my game idling on the loading screen for hours at a time and it messes up my totals.

Although last night I had it on in the background and the funny walking stink bug got hit by a truck.

I don't know if it's a live simulation and the RNG gods blessed me or if its a prerecorded loop.

[abstract heron]

Thats why i am doing a big production

[prime oriole]

But that was funny.

[abstract heron]

just remember due to IRL heat i do take summer off of playing

[unkempt blade]

Summer ruins everything. It's truly the worst season

[valid hull]

Hello, I haven't been able to watch the lastest dev stream, any indication on when the 1.2 will be released?

[restive umbra]

Silently and under the cover of the night

nvm

[ornate saffron]

Nope

[valid hull]

thanks

[abstract heron]

yes i hate it to play in summer only on cool mornings

[clear aspen]

Hello beefalo

[lean venture]

My AKWs started to do a sinusoidal power output for some reason.
They always struggled to meet the theoretical max output even tough I calculated everything. I still constantly had issues in production lines with water clogging pipes or not enough parts being made.
I finally took the time and checked everything again, which made me travel accross the map multiple times.
I finally found it, there is one single conveyor lift that should be MK 4 but is MK 3 ... one lift ... it causes a chain reaction and throws the ratios off, which only ever is being noticed at the end of the production since everything comes together there ...

That's satisfactory I guess ... 🤣

[prime oriole]

I wonder if this is a glitch or a reproducible bug. Doggo doesn't seem to want to traverse a foundation and the only thing I can think is because I replaced a full foundation with 2 half foundations so I can color one.

Yup, if I turn it back to full foundation the doggo's fine.

[lean venture]

Also ... I need 2,0070175439 foundries ... I have two ... will this ever be a problem ? probably not ... xD

I guess I just overclock one by 1 % ...

[ornate saffron]

Akw?

[lean venture]

Oh, right, I guess its not an english term, it means nucler power plant

I forgot it is not english because its an acronym.

[abstract heron]

why does Summer make it so HOT to play

[ornate saffron]

Easy solution is to tell the foundries a part number rather then a percentage

[abstract heron]

Fall Winter and spring are good to play until summer heat

[lean venture]

I know, but I am not sure if it can do so many decimal places xD
I just round it to 1%

It will probably stop for a moment every hour or so ... but thats fine, there are other things that are way more inacurate.
I just noticed this because its on the belt with the wrong conveyor lift.

[ornate saffron]

Sounds like you need a pipe doctor.

[lean venture]

The pipes where not the issue, it was this stupid lift.
It caused an production line to not work at 100%, and this production line took water from an another one, resulting in the pipe filling very very slowly

I always tought it was the pipes, but apperantly not.

I was about to build an cement water sink, but I hope this will fix it.

The annoying part is, I probably have to wait hours to see if it stabilizes now ...
The factory is spread out over the entire map, and the change was on the very beginning where ingots are made.

[ornate saffron]

My nuclear setup is completely independent and spans half the swamp.

[lean venture]

Well .. that one assembler with power shards but still set to 100% is probably also part of the issue ...

Why are there so many mistakes in this one specific production line ... I must had a bad day when I build that xD

[ornate saffron]

A good chunk of the playtime is troubleshooting issues

[merry thunder]

sometime is it

some times it just how to set up your area

[lean venture]

Well, steel fixed, but the water pipes are clogged again, but this might just be because it has not yet settled in a stable state ...
I need to make an overflow somehow ... until it is stable ...

[ornate saffron]

I often get high as fuck and play. So troubleshooting Happens lol

[merry thunder]

yep

I am taking my game slower

to kida learn more about the map

[ornate saffron]

High.

[merry thunder]

my main problem at the momment is power grids

[ornate saffron]

My average game completion time is 115hours.

This time im taking it slow. Just hit phase 5 at 300 hours

[merry thunder]

OK

do you need a hand playing?

[lean venture]

I which there where a priority splitter for pipes, I know you can build one, but I have not the space for that here, and I somehow need to temporarly get rid of excess water until this stabelized ...

[merry thunder]

ya water exses

[lean venture]

Maybe there is a mod that adds one ?

[merry thunder]

geee

I wish there was a syth or a flamethrower

to cut the brush faster

cluster bombs and regluer bombs can miss

[abstract heron]

what i did first playthrough i did not care about per minute and i was learning the game

[merry thunder]

thats how I am going

[warped whale]

2 identical LFG posts from 2 different people? Whats that about?

[lean venture]

Oh, look what I found, another machine with power shards but no overclocking, again in the steel production xD

[static iron]

Only 2 more items Moduction lines to make then I'm home free!

Modular engines and Adaptive Control Unit

:)

[steep maple]

I completed phase 5 now what

[regal harbor]

is there any ETA on 1.2 yet?

[static iron]

You beat the game 😭

[leaden turret]

it been out on EXP for a while now.

[static iron]

What does it add?

[versed mesa]

Fluid trucks for 1

[leaden turret]

refer to the videos that have been out a while

• #announcements message
• #announcements message

[versed mesa]

Whos waiting for 1.3 already 😂

[static iron]

Thank you!

[leaden turret]

March 17th, 2026
Q&A: 1.3, when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHBFMoNs7xY&t=7506

Let's get to 1.2 first, and then we can talk about 1.3.

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

[leaden turret]

gotta wait for the launch stream before askin 😛

[versed mesa]

@leaden turret am waiting for the release to stable branch

[leaden turret]

horse cannot fly, stable on ground, not in tree

[versed mesa]

😂

[regal harbor]

think i read somewhere they said EXP run from 1-3 month so if that is true it should be out within 6 weeks

[steep maple]

oh

[earnest condor]

It runs as long as it needs to for them to fix the game-breaking stuff before pushing it to main.

[versed mesa]

I think its going to drop soon if not this month then June

[leaden turret]

also if the devs can behave and not scope creep cos Uzu isn't around to spray them with a water bottle

[static iron]

You could improve your current factorys make them more efficent

[versed mesa]

I would put gas in that water bottle and bring out the flamethrower lmfao

[steep maple]

yeah for 5 I kinda just scrapped together manufacturer lines with components I was already making instead of making everything from scratch

[leaden turret]

gas in water bottle is just soda.

pretty sure mikael would sit there and take it. unless it was julmust, in which case he punch you

[versed mesa]

Lmfao

@leaden turret who's is Uzu is he like the main guy ?

[leaden turret]

defacto release manager

[versed mesa]

Ok cool

[leaden turret]

uzu is the one that pushes the button to make stuff go ding

[versed mesa]

Or damn

[gentle shuttle]

e

[worn oar]

It's fine to build on the ground, but it's slower and harder. And it's possible to run out of space. And it looks worse than foundations

[gentle shuttle]

im new to satisfactory

any tips?

[stone python]

ignore everyone and play how you want

[gentle shuttle]

ok

[zenith pecan]

Build magnificent chaos to your own rules.

[gentle shuttle]

oh bet

[stone python]

im not being sarcastic either, because youll have a lot of people tell you either x or y is the only proper way to do something, when that just isnt the case

[worn oar]

#1 tip would be to play through the game blindly, as that's the most fun way to play it. #2 tip would be to avoid prematurely optimizing. If something works now, it will continue to work forever until something happens that makes it not work. #3 would be to consider all resources infinite before around nuclear tech level, and just go grab more resources

You only get to play through the game for the first time, once.

[gentle shuttle]

im actually very pro in a game called industrialist on roblok so i heard this game is much harder so i decided to spend bucks

[worn oar]

Not familiar with it, but this is one of the top 3 best factory games

[leaden turret]

my #1 tip would be to play through the game with eyes open.

helps to avoid the

[worn oar]

No, you must turn your monitor off or it's straight to jail, do not pass go. 😁

[worn oar]

Any advice on how to lay out 9007199254740991 water in an aesthetically pleasing way? I was thinking of laying a 1.50119987579e+13 wide series of pipes around the edges of the map that I can pull from at any time

[restive umbra]

That’s what I would do

[worn oar]

Great, thanks!

[glacial totem]

eh, I'm still having trouble with my fuel gen setup. When I turn off the generators they (6) fill up with 50 stack fuel but when they're powered it doesn't stay a consistent fuel supply.
There are 3 refineries and 6 generators and the pipelines are all completely horizontal.

[worn oar]

Means demand is higher than supply

[glacial totem]

But the math

[restive umbra]

either that or you’re backed up/sloshing

[worn oar]

If they fill up when off, then it's not a headlift issue

[restive umbra]

Are all your producing machines draining quickly?

[glacial totem]

120 out, 120 burning

[restive umbra]

That’s the math part which is important but SF has a whole ass fluid sim so it’s not as simple as cancelling each side out

[tired tusk]

If anyone is good with train signals, can I get some help real quick?

[restive umbra]

That’s entering spherical cow in a frictionless vacuum territory

[glacial totem]

so how do I trouble shoot?

[restive umbra]

Find which machine farthest back in your production is running below 100% efficiency

[glacial totem]

remove 2 generators so supply always> demand?

[glacial totem]

One of the refineries is to keep the output at 120m3

[restive umbra]

Well, I gave my suggestion

[glacial totem]

Ok, thanks. Will do.

Is running a refinery on less than 100 a bad idea?

I followed a guide, it could have been wrong

[worn oar]

ass-fluid sim

[leaden turret]

it's generally safer to just say "XKCD-37" than it is to do XKCD-37 out loud.

[worn oar]

😏

[quick hound]

Can someone help me? How the fuck do I get to the SAM here? #screenshots message

[quick hound]

Marv, please help

[tired tusk]

might be underground, look for a cave nearby

[quick hound]

I’ve literally searched all over for any caves

[tired tusk]

one sec, I'm playing right now, Ill go over and take a look

[leaden turret]

reminder that bits of titan forest sit on top of the swamp

[worn oar]

If this is the same node I'm thinking of, then

https://tenor.com/view/going-down-gif-7979542

There's a cave entrance to the north

[quick hound]

Can you take a pic?

[worn oar]

I mean if you want to be spoiled either way, I recommend SCIM. It will show ALL 107 caves for your edification

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#4;51766;-10195|gameLayer|samImpure;samNormal;samPure;caves

[quick hound]

just send me a pic please..

[worn oar]

I restarted. I don't have a picture. You need to find it yourself or click the link. Don't be helpless.

[latent prawn]

there's an etrance to the cave on the canyon side of titan forest behind some splody rocks

its kind of tucked in the rock maze on the side of the main canyon road with a lot of spooders

[hollow mountain]

do you guys automate battery? i cant see any use

[latent prawn]

they're kind of a relic that they left in the game after rebalancing. the only recipe now that needs them is superstate computer

[worn oar]

Vehicles can use batteries and so does a supercomputer alt. They are an excellent source of fuel for vehicles. If you don't use either of those things, you don't need thm.

[hollow mountain]

i see i guess ill ignore them

[latent prawn]

they used to be the only fuel drones used and necessary for that and also an ingredient in mag field generators

[white dawn]

They're quite niche nowadays, yes. They make a good vehicle+drone fuel, of course, and they're still used as part of one alt recipe chain

On my last save I made some for drone fuel 'cause it was marginally more convenient than setting up Rocket Fuel for 'em. :P

[violet glen]

You mean you don't fuel your drones with Plutonium Rods?

[worn oar]

It's still an efficient and good fuel but definitely not necessary

[white dawn]

If I'm making Plutonium Rods, they're getting burnt. :D

[hollow mountain]

wait i could do that

[white dawn]

IMO Rods are a waste as vehicle/drone fuel since there's so many other options. I'd rather have the power. :)

All that effort just to fly some drones around? No thanks!

[violet glen]

I'd rather build more uranium rods than deal with the insanity that is plutonium waste processing

[worn oar]

But you get to skip waste disposal because they don't create waste in vehicles

[white dawn]

If you don't want to do Ficsonium, you can just store the Plutonium waste. It's quite easy

[violet glen]

Or, I can drone away and sink the plutonium rods, and build another uranium plant :D

[hollow mountain]

i was gonna sink the rod anyway

[white dawn]

A minute or so in the blueprint designer and you've got yourself an ISC grid which gives you N hours of worry-free play. Plop down a bunch of those and you can have literal months of playtime before you'd have to add more

Anyway, all options are certainly viable for nuclear power, of course!

[worn oar]

You can feed them into a multipurpose generator for 30 MW and the same effect of space lol

[white dawn]

I just can't bear to use rods for anything but more power. I'd rather have the GWs. :P

(And I don't personally care about storing waste, if I'm not doing Ficsonium. Nuclear waste really isn't the problem many folks seem to fear it is)

[latent prawn]

you can always make some extra plut rods by switching a reactor group over to using fertile uranium. its a small change in the prod line that then kicks off extra rods for vehicle fuel

[white dawn]

Except, again: IMO rods are an absolute waste in vehicles.

If I'm spending the effort to make Plutonium rods, I'm burning them for power. For myself, that's the only sensible option

[violet glen]

Well, I'd otherwise just sink them. So might as well fuel drones with them

[white dawn]

Whether or not I store the Pu Waste or later convert it to Ficsonium is another question entirely; I'm personally fine with either of those options

[latent prawn]

i guess it depends on what you're endgame factory looks like. i'm sure some people are truck & drone heavy enough that it can be compelling

[white dawn]

I mean, even if you're really heavy into vehicles, I've literally never felt like I needed anything but Packaged Fuel for them

Which is so easy it's practically free

[latent prawn]

i wouldn't call it easy to build correctly, but yeah, its cheap, i agree

[white dawn]

For "personal" vehicles I generally use packaged RF or batteries, but for automation I've never done more than packaged fuel

[violet glen]

I pretty much just decided to use drones to make the final elevator parts, since I had the fuel rods anyway

[white dawn]

Compared to plutonium fuel rods?

[violet glen]

And I wanted to use drones for something at least

could have also just used trains

[latent prawn]

easiest item in the game 😄 lol

[white dawn]

heh

[vernal marten]

hi

[latent prawn]

there's a world in which oil for diamonds becomes precious

[white dawn]

Not that precious

Unless you're literally doing some kind of "max <foo>" build.

And oil is hardly the only way to make diamonds

[latent prawn]

if you want to go all-in on ion fuel, yeah, it gets kinda crazy tight

[sterile blade]

... If you stuck a nobelisks to a creature (without detonating it) and ran to the other side of the map, would the nobelisk "force" the creature to not despawn?

[unique vortex]

Do you guys do dedicated battery factories or do you do it as an addon to your aluminum factory (tapping into the same al scrap and alumina as what you use for your al bars)? Wondering if I can tap into my existing setup or need to setup a whole new aluminum plant just to make batteries. I'm planning on using the batteries in about 10 drone ports

[latent prawn]

i haven't made batteries since update 8

[white dawn]

Ancedotally, btw, my own average per-min usage of Batteries in drones for constantly-moving drones was like 2.5/min

So you'd just be looking at like maybe 30/min batteries for that few

[violet glen]

I'm at something like... 0.05 fuel rods per minute :D

[latent prawn]

that recipe is wretched to work with, lol

[unique vortex]

do you not use drones or do you use another fuel?

[unique vortex]

ty, this is very helpfu

[white dawn]

Batteries are definitely not the "meta" for drone fuel, btw. You can fuel drones with practically anything nowadays -- I'd only really recommend batteries as drone fuel if it's just Something You Want To Do

[latent prawn]

i use yellow fuel in drones until i'm packaging either rocket fuel or making nuclear rods

[vernal marten]

Yo pioneers! ngl my first time playing back in Jan was brutal 🤢 Got crazy motion sickness after just 30 mins on default settings and felt sick all day. Just came back, tweaked my visuals (105 FOV, Frame Gen OFF, Motion Blur OFF, locked 60 FPS) and played for 30 mins building and flying with ZERO nausea. Feeling amazing rn, so hyped I can finally play this masterpiece! Huge W 🙏🔥

[unique vortex]

its not 🙂 but everything I read up so far and watched seems to reference using batteries for drones

[white dawn]

As I said earlier: in my 1.0 save, making Batteries for my initial drone buildout was slightly more convenient than Packaged Rocket Fuel, so I did that, but I suspect few people actually do batteries nowadays

[white dawn]

That's just because prior to v1.0, batteries were the only fuel for Drones

[sterile blade]

I love the SYWTD method!

[white dawn]

As of v1.0 you can fuel them with any of the packaged fuels, plus nuclear fuel rods (though I seem to think not Ficsonium?)

[latent prawn]

batteries used to be good to distribute via drone for vehicle fuel and have just one fuel type for everything

[white dawn]

Don't get me wrong: batteries are a perfectly fine fuel for drones. As I say, I'd used it myself on my last save (for what turned out to be about half my drone fleet -- ~40 drones or so)

[latent prawn]

nothing on that has really changed, but using rocket fuel or uranium rods is cheaper on aluminum

[white dawn]

But compared to many of the other fuelling options many folks opt to give them a miss

[latent prawn]

i'm not sure how the plut rod bauxite cost works out vs the fluid tanks for rf/if

[vernal marten]

Quick question guys. I'm playing on the 1.2 Experimental branch rn. When 1.2 officially drops on the main branch, can I just switch over and keep my save file without it breaking? 🤔

[placid stirrup]

As long as you're backing up save files like we've been told to since U2

[white dawn]

In fact, when v1.2 drops, the Experimental branch will also be updated to have v1.2

So you'll be upgraded to v1.2 no matter which one you choose. :)

[latent prawn]

for me with it all, any place bauxite can be saved is kind of a thing. batteries just take more of it than other options

the sulfur cost used to be a concern as well, but not with the 1.0 map changes

[white dawn]

I still wish that MFGs still required Batteries

[latent prawn]

i don't,lol

[white dawn]

They were already the easiest of the P4 parts, and without batteries, the name makes no sense

They used to just be a simple "can you make some batteries?" gate. Now they're just a couple of bits of wood tied together with string (metaphorically speaking)

-# wtb string-and-bits-of-wood mod for Satisfactory

[latent prawn]

yeah, it was a definite thing you had to overcome in the game before the rebalance

[vernal marten]

Thanks for the info guys! Any ETA on when 1.2 drops on the main branch? Also, is the current Experimental build stable enough right now, or are there game-breaking bugs that might ruin my playthrough?

[latent prawn]

the classic battery recipe has that nasty 7 alclad sheets in it though

and i'm not sure the default battery recipe can be rightly built with wastewater recycling.

[white dawn]

For the former: Nope, no ETA
For the latter: really a better question for #satisfactory-experimental , but I think as of the last patch it's pretty good. Most major new bug that I've seen is some problems saving color presets, but that's relatively minor?

I'd recommend scrolling back a bit in the exp channel though to see if there's anything else mentioned lately

[latent prawn]

there's still a kind of big UI issue with keypresses disappearing after interacting with some elements

workaround for that exists, but that needs fixing

[scarlet cairn]

Hi

[unique hazel]

how do i get catwalk srossings ?

[leaden turret]

awesome shop

[unique hazel]

i found it

sohidden XD\

[leaden turret]

-# some time between now and the eventual heat death of the universe

[quick hound]

Hey uhh, what if I’m not awesome.. can I not use the awesome shop?

[unkempt blade]

it's going to be tomorrow if we all believe extra hard

[leaden turret]

Anti-Waste Effort for Stress-testing Of Materials on Exoplanets makes no judgements on Pioneers beyond their ability to make a number go up

[naive kite]

Hello I'm new here

[quick hound]

No.

[unkempt blade]

hello New Here, I'm Factory Carts

[naive kite]

no? No what

[quick hound]

No.

[naive kite]

Hello factory carts pls move to the parking

[naive kite]

I see thank you

[restive umbra]

Factory Carts needs to get to the next truck stop on the route

[unkempt blade]

Yeah parking is impossible. Factory Carts must always keep moving or they can't breath

[naive kite]

Oh I am space elevator

[quick hound]

furiously crafts factory carts just to throw them into the void.

[unkempt blade]

good idea! there's lots of room for carts down there

[restive umbra]

Seems a bit backwards to me we can automate portable miners but not factory carts

[naive kite]

I don't use factory carts
They are useless

[unkempt blade]

yeah I'd love a manufacturer recipe for them

[restive umbra]

Actually being able to automate preprogrammed carts would be pretty baller

[naive kite]

By the way Where are you guys from?

[unkempt blade]

Mirage2-B

[restive umbra]

I’m just a guy from the internet

[naive kite]

I am new to discord
Just now I installed
I got that gift boxes ficsmas box what can I do with that box

[unkempt blade]

it sounds like you haven't built a factory cart skatepark yet

[naive kite]

I have factory carts

[unkempt blade]

and you still think they're useless? you must not be using them right

[naive kite]

Yess

[unkempt blade]

well that's ok I still think you're awesome and talented and can totally figure out factory carts one day

[naive kite]

Oh that's nice

[naive kite]

Someone say

[reef basin]

umm, you shouldn't have them at this day

[naive kite]

Yeah I got that at december

[unkempt blade]

I think the recipes become unavailable in vanilla when they're out of season if that's what you're asking

[naive kite]

Will that be back next Christmas?

[unkempt blade]

I'd expect so, it's been the same recently

[naive kite]

What is the use of that

[unkempt blade]

to make ficsmas special

[naive kite]

Oh
I am just a beginner
I uploaded space elevator phase 2 just now

[unkempt blade]

you should listen to the album Chipmunks Christmas while you play the next phase

[naive kite]

Would you give any tips for me

[reef basin]

best tip we can give is "play on your own and don't follow tips"

[naive kite]

Oh i see

Now I'm the hUb

[quick hound]

If you fail, you can always brute force things. THAT SQUARE WILL GO INTO THE CIRCLE HOLE!

[karmic veldt]

what are you baguetting again

[unkempt blade]

1. unlock factory carts first in the awesome shop
2. cast screws is the best recipe in the game
3. parachutes can go up slopes

I love you too @reef basin

[merry thunder]

I really like the parachute

[radiant magnet]

The funny part is number 3 is true, you can turn the pioneer into a tech deck XD

[latent prawn]

4. doggos eat berries

[latent prawn]

it was always a good tech, even when they were disposable

[unkempt blade]

yeah that's more of a factual tip than an opinion tip like the other two

[latent prawn]

cast screw may be the best recipe in phase 1 though btw it & stitched plate, i think its kind of tied.

[reef basin]

given that cast screws don't save any resources, it's hardly a tie

[unique hazel]

can anyone look at ss and let me know

[latent prawn]

biomass

[reef basin]

if you're asking a question, use channels for that instead of the showing off channel

[latent prawn]

power generation is a resource

[reef basin]

what with it?

[unkempt blade]

you want the "corner ramp pack" from the awesome shop

[unique hazel]

theres a corner ramp pack ?

[unkempt blade]

there's lots of foundation packs 🙂

[static iron]

Just finished my modular engine line 😭

Now time to wait almost 5 hours to make 500

[unkempt blade]

That's a lot of time to build a factory cart skatepark. I envy you

[static iron]

After I need to create a line for Adaptive Control Unit 😭

It not as bad as I only need 100 of them

[spare barn]

Ello guys, is there anyone that could hop on a very quick call with me? I'm trying establish a huge railways looping the whole map but i never done this ever before so I need have couple of questions 🙏

[static iron]

so that will take about 1-2 hours to make

[quick hound]

I’m gonna eat a factory cart

[static iron]

I'm going to try and 100% satisfactory (In terms of achivments)

[trim perch]

What do you do after that, though? I 100%'d the chieves and now I don't know what to do with myself.

[glacial totem]

thanks I think this is solved

[static iron]

I guess make more effiecnt factorys or restart from scratch

I'm looking at the requirments for phase 4 and what on earth am I seeing 😭

0.5 Nuclear Pasta per min 😭

what a scam

Also when I comes to nuclear power plant what do yall do with nuclear wastes? Ive always wonder was happends to it

[ornate saffron]

Uranium waste is turned into Plutonium ro0ds and sunk used for drone fuel or used in a reactor. If you choose the reactor you get plutonium waste. That get turned into Ficsonium fuel rods

[tropic nest]

what is a good metric on how effective a factory is? like SPM in factorio

[ornate saffron]

My measurement is

Does it do what i want it to do

[tropic nest]

yeah but how do i flex with that on my friends

its scientifically proven you get more game the more your factory grows

[ornate saffron]

I dont do that, I spend time with friends doing things we both enjoy

[tropic nest]

you do that but I need to show them filthy casuals how its done

its matter of life and death really

[ornate saffron]

youtube can do that. I just build for my personal enjoyment.

[restive umbra]

Sunk points per min

[hollow dune]

thinking about factory game as i watch good doctor

[tropic nest]

is that where IM A SURGEON originates from

[tropic nest]

ty

[hollow dune]

yes

[tropic nest]

I will mention you in my manifest when I hit the big leagues

[hollow dune]

i need to do a surgery on my factory

[reef basin]

we do sink points per minute usually

[robust wigeon]

Depends on what you need to usually it’s “produces x amount of parts per minute” or “produces x amount of power” when I haven’t finished space elevator stages yet and “produces x amount of ticket points per minute” or “produces x amount of power” when I have completed the space elevator stages

Like I’ll brag by saying “my new rocket fuel plant produces 270GW of power”

[regal tiger]

I downloaded some blueprints as the basis of my own, but I get a Blueprint made in a Designer of different size, regardless of whether I use Mk 1, Mk 2 or Mk 3. How can I amend these blueprints? Heck, how were they even created?

[static latch]

Heyo quick question is there an estimate on 1.2 release?

[tropic nest]

about 5 days give or take

[static latch]

Nice ty

[tropic nest]

like what do you expect us to say

no one knows

[sour cargo]

also, it's called Spire Coast, not gold coast :)
and "coal lake" is Blue Crater
https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/World#/media/File:Biome_Map.jpg

[sour cargo]

"when it's done"
you can play on experimental, in which case 1.2 is "already released"

[hard wolf]

I think they're referring to the islands off what is often called the gold coast. there are 2 normal nodes, 2 pure nodes, and a well with 2 impure nodes, 3 normal nodes, and 1 pure node. they're all close together and the maximum output of the area is 2700 crude/m

[static iron]

200 more modular engines 😭

only 2 more hours left 😭

[latent prawn]

i'm trying to get the last of the stuff automated for them, boy it has been a slog

[sour cargo]

that doesn't sound right ...
Spire coast has 2 pure 3 normal and 5 impure (2 - 4 - 7 if you count the desert spires)
Western Beaches only has 2 pure 2 normal ...
the rest in inland, not on islands so ... ???
they also said "[the areas] have actual names" while not using the correct names anyways ...

[static iron]

Only thing I will need to automate after is the adaptive control units

[hard wolf]

you're missing the western beach oil well

[sour cargo]

ah yes, the wells ... only at Tier7+ lol

also, if "gold coast" is that area, it's still the wrong name ;)

[hard wolf]

that's also 2850 oil/m out of the spire coast and 3450 including the desert canyon. it's a 150/750/m difference and that's not huge is most situations, unless you're making a fuel plant

[hard wolf]

if people wanna call it the gold coast, it's the gold coast :3

[sour cargo]

my point is that saying "the areas have actual names" while using the wrong names is ... not very great 🙃

either ways, blue crater is fine for oil items production, right?

(aka plastic, rubber, riffle ammo, rocket fuel, resin, ...)

[bitter bridge]

Modded blueprint makers can be larger than the vanilla ones

[hard wolf]

it's best for fuel power (especially rocket) and later ionized fuel production due to it's proximity to sulfur, coal, and nitrogen. it might to be better to save it for then and build your plubber factory in the spire coast

[desert ermine]

i just updated to 1.2 and started a save in the dune desert and the patches nearest to water are impure -_-

[sour cargo]

even tho spire coast has 2 nitrogen patches (tho a bit further away) ?

i mostly want to make a satellite factory for oil products and upload to DD

[latent prawn]

yeah, i have the hmf's done already for those. computers and cb's are going to be an adhoc build with cat computer and well, i'm working atm on stators for the rest of the game which is the last big thing™

[cedar prism]

the more i play this game the less satisfactory it feels

fluid freight is a mess
valves being bugged for years now

lot of missing building blocks,i get you can already do crazy stuff but at what cost ? having to throw a barrier and 2 beams or clipping things inside each others each time i want place something the way i want just doesnt feel nice,building should be limited (mostly) by your creativity,not by your knowledge of some obscur techniques to bypass the game's limitation

[hard wolf]

definitely. the blue crater has 2 nitrogen wells nearby and a third that's at least half as far when compared to the nitrogen well northeast of the center of the spire coast, though if you built around the 2x impure/1x pure nodes on the east of the coast it would be about the same (but that puts the other node in the rocky desert that much farther away)

there's also a lot of coal and sulfur around the blue crater

[sour cargo]

ah, you counting the abyss cliffs and eastern dune forrest nitrogen nodes as well ... fair

[serene jolt]

Do at least 2 per minute or have the factory easy to upgrade so you can make later game items.

[hard wolf]

also the eastern dune forest and abyss cliffs coal nodes, as well as the abyss cliffs and southern forest sulfur nodes

[low ingot]

Does anyone have a issue with satisfactory crashing every single time I launch it? Iv verified the files through steam and it still didnt work

[humble bough]

Idk if my game is glitched but I cannot add blueprints to my hot bar
I want to add the train support and scaffold to my hotbar but I am unable to
I'm trying to put it into the 2nd hotbar group (alt + mouse scroll) if that makes any difference

[sour cargo]

how are you trying to add to hotbar?

[merry thunder]

is there a way in game to join other games besides one on steam frineds list

I want to explor a litte bit

[dense violet]

I'm pretty sure there's options directly in the main menu to join people?

[merry thunder]

OK

[dense violet]

not sure what you mean by 'explore' though

[merry thunder]

so I am new to the game

[dense violet]

you can't just join random people's games

[merry thunder]

and I want to learn other ways to play and how other play

OK thanks

[sour cargo]

youtube. and just play the gaame

[dense violet]

and the best way to learn is play the game
the milestones and tiers are a tutorial that teaches you the basics, and yo uget the chance to try different ways of doing things

eh Youtube has a LOT of garbage on it about thigns. Especially pipes

Architecture is about the only thing I'd trust from there

[merry thunder]

I use the interactive satifatery map

[unkempt blade]

youtube will rot your brain and bad pipe advice is just the start

[dense violet]

I mean that's a 100% exploration spoiler, and that's a bit sad, cause exploring is really good in the game

[merry thunder]

I have already see the whole map

so not a spoil to me

I like the desert the most

[unkempt blade]

then what do you need the interactive map for?

[merry thunder]

tunnels

[dense violet]

you're new to the game, don't know the ways to play, but explored the whole map already?

[merry thunder]

I help a friend of my and he is on phase 4 of the game

I helped him sence tier 0

april 2 is when I started playing

so I am new by about 1 month

sorry if I am making no sence

[static iron]

Finally finished modular engines 😭

[merry thunder]

congrulations

[static iron]

Tomorrow I need to make Adaptive control Units it 1am for me

[merry thunder]

ah alright good night Melon

uh or lemon sorry dyslixia

thanks all for the help

[limpid inlet]

I wish the blueprint was available at the start

it would be so nice

[mint cradle]

i did the control units first but im tearing down basically my whole world

[sour cargo]

would you say it's a decent area to setup a satellite factory to make most parts to DD?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/592594172741943349/1503552107691638865/image.png

[mint cradle]

anyone got any tips for modular factories

[unkempt blade]

practice using the blueprinter

[sour cargo]

make a creative world

[limpid inlet]

wait

thats genius

can you bring blueprints from creative to base game

[dense violet]

you unlock the mk1 bp so early... jfc

god I wish they'd never introduced bps

[sour cargo]

(unless you're on console kekw)

[mint cradle]

how come

[dense violet]

because people used to bitch constantly about them BEFORE they were a thing, the bitching got 10x worse after they put them in the game

[mint cradle]

bitch that it makes the game easier?

[limpid inlet]

32 by 32 by 32 is fine for the stage you should be at

[dense violet]

bitch about how it doesn't do exactly everythign that they want all at once

[mint cradle]

im phase 3 just need modular engines now but im tearing everything down

[dense violet]

'why is there a size limit' 'why can't i copy thigns that already exist' why does it come earlier even though it comes early already'
it just gets very very tiresome

[sour cargo]

why can't i copy thigns that already exist
to be fair, that's how most factory games blueprints work ...
but it's also understandable since selecting in 3D would be a bit more of a pain

why does it (not) come earlier
again, most other factory games have blueprints unlocked pretty much from the start

[unkempt blade]

a lot of people do seem to want the factorio/dsp style blueprint but I think the blueprinter is a pretty good balance of QOL for this game

[mint cradle]

trains are better used for high throughput items right

its cause im switching over to modular factories and dont know when to switch factories if you know what i mean

like should i produce just ingots in one then ship them off or what

[unkempt blade]

personally I like the "blueprinter minigame" of trying to squeeze what I want into a limited box

[mint cradle]

speaking of other factory games i wanna play shapez 2 so badly

[sour cargo]

it was on sale recently on steam kekw

[mint cradle]

i dont have a pc

💔

[limpid inlet]

are any of the alt recipes borderline needed or nah?

[latent prawn]

its a fun little challenge, but sometimes you just want to build a module to spam out and don't wanna fight with the dimensions. at which point, having to play that game to accomplish something else gets kind of old

[white dawn]

Trains do excel at high-throughput items, yeah, but there's nothing wrong with using them for any ol' transfer you might need. My stupidest train route on my last save was one which was literally only moving 2/min HMF from A to B

[unkempt blade]

just means smaller modules 🙂

[minor vale]

none are needed really no.

but

I refuse to do steel without solid steel ingot

[white dawn]

IMO ingots aren't worth centralizing+distributing; just make 'em onsite. If the resource you need ingots from isn't locally available, find a "better" site for the factory. :)

[mint cradle]

so ingots to plates and stuff like that?

then send plates somewhere else?

[latent prawn]

yeah, when it was 4x4 you couldn't do stuff like a 3-way split into assemblers... some things do need the bigger size

[sour cargo]

some of them are really good, others are situationals

most of them are just "this combo of alts would be really nice for this factory chain"

keep in mind most of the alts are "trade this resource for that resource"
@limpid inlet

[mint cradle]

like if i have alloy ingots should i just be using those recipes instead for iron production and steel production

and solid steel ingot

[unkempt blade]

what I'd keep in mind is...

1. conveyors only care about quantity
2. vehicles care about quantity AND stack size, generally increasing stack size or decreasing quantity will make vehicle logistics take less effort

[white dawn]

I personally tend to stick to "Independency" where basically every single factory goes from ore->product. The only things I do tend to centralize to a degree are rubber/plastic/aluminumsheets/aluminumcasings/etc. When I'm doing logistics it tends to be when I'm doing more "subfactory" type stuff for more advanced products. Like I may have a subcomponent produced in one location 'cause it's convenient, and then send it over to where everything else is. (The caveat being that that's a dedicated export. I'm not making a bunch and then sending some over; I've got a factory specifically for that one export, at 100% of its output goes to the next site)

[mint cradle]

so make hella plates is the solution

[unkempt blade]

compared to moving raw ore or something absolutely

[minor vale]

Moreso don't waste time pre-building tons and tons of smelteries and factories doing basic productions, when you don't actually know what exactly it is that you need.
you can move stuff once you figure out your logistics lines.

[white dawn]

For basic resources (like essentially everything in Phase 1+2 and honestly even 3), I'll have totally-isolated factories for literally everything

I'd personally never centralize something like iron plates. Iron's everywhere; you can basically always make those right where you need 'em

[mint cradle]

you have one factory producing steel, one everything iron one for the elevator parts and stuff like that

?

[mint cradle]

so like what would a factory look like for modular engines

chain i mean

[white dawn]

In the very early game I may do some "combined" factories (like "basic iron products") or whatever but by the time I'm in Phase 2, basically everything is one factory for one product. And that factory only outputs to my own personal (build-gun-use) storage. Whenever some other factory needs more of that product, I make more right inside the new factory. :)

[unkempt blade]

probably finding a spot relatively close to iron, copper, coal, and oil and having modular engines come out the other side

maybe plus or minus a little depending on recipe choice

[mint cradle]

what would you do for phase 3

[mint cradle]

i have both alloy recipes so smelter demand is suppper low

[white dawn]

My own Modular Engine factory on my last save made everything onsite except for importing Smart Plating (from my original Smart Plating factory) plus Rubber

[mint cradle]

so the rips, rotors, motors stuff like that in one building

[unkempt blade]

Yeah if I'm just doing progression I stockpile spaceship part ingredients between phases so I'd have box of smart plating ready. If I were doing coupon points I'd be more independency-like with them

[white dawn]

Yep, see: #off-topic-media message

[mint cradle]

should i just get to phase 4 before tearing the entirety of my old set up down

[white dawn]

Why tear your old stuff down? Let it do its stuff. Build new instead

[mint cradle]

i dont like it whatsoever

[white dawn]

Tearing things down means you've gotta spend a hell of a lot of time+energy getting yourself back to where you were before

[mint cradle]

everythings ugl y

[white dawn]

It's a huge map, with a ton of resources on it

[mint cradle]

i dont mind rebuilding my factories

[white dawn]

Hook your factories up to Dimensional Depots, head to the other side of the map, and build your new factories there, then. :)

[unkempt blade]

I don't get too serious about my builds until I have the hoverpack and a good amount of awesomeshop stuff unlocked so phase4 sounds about right to me before a major rebuild 😄

[white dawn]

You can take your HUB + Elevator with you!

[mint cradle]

yeah im thinking about moving to the desert

[white dawn]

I mean obviously if you'll have a good time doing it, feel free to teardown and rebuild. But remember that it's 100% a choice, and for a lot of folks it ends up being a recipe for burnout

[mint cradle]

yeah im just gonna make a small modular engine factory and unlock phase 4 and the hoverpack then rebuild

[white dawn]

It's easy to sort of forget just how long it took you to get to where you are, and even if the rebuild is faster than that, it's often a lot of work to make zero progress on new milestones, etc

[mint cradle]

ive played 150 hours in 3 weeks i love this game

[unkempt blade]

definitely suggest building the new thing first BEFORE tearing down the old one when it's actually possible too

[white dawn]

Yeah

[dense violet]

satisfactory is very different from other factory games. If you can't see the differences in core design then I can't help you

[white dawn]

Ideally you'll still love the game after spending another 125 hours rebuilding, just to be in the exact same spot in the game. :)

[mint cradle]

the only thing i deleted was my hella inefficient hmf farm

[lofty cove]

Is there a way to change the elevator light color yet?

-I didn't want to create an entire questions thread just for this

[sour cargo]

im not saaying it's not.
but that's mostly the reason why ppl "bitch about it"

[white dawn]

It's also the reason why some people like this game, though. :)

Not all factory games have to be identical

I'm quite familiar with how blueprinting and such work in other games, but I legit like how Satisfactory's done theirs. IMO it fits quite well with the design of the game as a whole

You can always suggest features to the devs at the Questions site, or upvote existing ones. I have no doubt that the kinds of things you want to see from Satisfactory blueprints and such are already in there, so you could add your upvote to 'em. :)

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @white dawn

[dense violet]

yeah, keep that factorio shit away from satisfactory

[worn oar]

I lowkey do not like exploring

I'm sure I am not the only one

[sour cargo]

i didn't ... at first.
then i learned how mobs act/react and it's fine 🙃

[limpid inlet]

does the blueprint automatically assume you are on a foundation or nah?

[sour cargo]

no

[dense violet]

unlock the gear for it and it's easy

zipline, blade runners, some better weapons, you're good.
jet pack can help too ofc

[sour cargo]

blade runner and rebar gun is honnestly all you need to "just explore"
get riffle to deal with spiders tho IMO
or, carry 2 rebar guns, one with stun rebars

also parachute helps =)

[mint cradle]

do yall play creative

[crude widget]

11

[tranquil saffron]

yes

[whole ermine]

Has anyone else noticed the train frieght platforms are never in sync

it upsets me

[worn oar]

14

[dense violet]

once you finish the tiers (the tutorial) you basically have creative mode already set up. Infinite items

[limpid inlet]

for blueprint making

speaking of which, where are the blueprints files stored

[latent prawn]

i find that it is one of the more enjoyable aspects of the game once you hit a certain skill level with the equipment

[strange matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-okay-not-sharing-gif-8357489

[lapis knot]

Ok brainiac pioneers

Is this new?

#screenshots message

I've never seen that before above the doorway xd

[unborn moss]

It's at least 2 years old

[mint cradle]

phase 3 is ready to send off!

[sour cargo]

in the saves folder
@limpid inlet
assuming windows and steam and default, it should be somewhere around there
c/users/steamuser/AppData/Local/FactoryGame/Saved/SaveGames/
you should have a folder with seemingly random numbers (saves) and a folder fro blueprints

[thick cave]

Hello everyone
Question for you all
I just unlocked turbo fuel (I have no idea what the recipe is, I haven't had a chance to look)
Should I
A) wait to find more hard drives and get an alternate recipe
Or
B) just use the recipe it gives me when I unlock it and turn all my fuel into turbofuel

[sour cargo]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Turbofuel

the only alt you have just skip 1 step

well, kinda.

until you reach tier7 there's not really a big difference with the alt

[mint cradle]

phase 3 ccomplete onto phase 4

[thick cave]

Well I at least have an alternative for compact coal

[sour cargo]

huh?

[limpid inlet]

I finally completed my Reinforced Iron Plates blueprint 🔥 onto Modular Frames

[warped crane]

anyone else run double-headed trains on small networks? I feel like I see everyone doing bi-directional trains everywhere

train line in progress here: only the sections where multiple train lines run on the same path are bidirectional, individual destinations are unidirectional
#screenshots message

[thick cave]

I have an alternate recipe for compact coal

[thick cave]

Imma be so honest my current train line is just a giant loop with one train

[sour cargo]

that doesn't help you for turbofuel tho

[thick cave]

O well

[dense violet]

you can lose a lot of potential throughput on single lane rail, more awkward, muhc longer trip times

[warped crane]

have you considered exhaustive geometric precision?

[thick cave]

One word:
Plastic

[warped crane]

well theoretically the trip time is the same no matter what, right? in fact the single-line might be shorter bc no loop at the ends?

but yeah I don't really care about throughput here

[dense violet]

no? because if multiple trains use 1 line they have to wait for each other

[thick cave]

Also my train line may or may not ride on top of my one way hypertube highway

[dense violet]

look at the roads in your town
how well would it work if every road was 1 way and people had to wait for others to use it to go the othe rway?

[warped crane]

ah yeah no this is set up so multiple trains don't use the same line, only single trains in each line and there are 2 lanes where multiple trains might be running

[dense violet]

if you live in the US people would be getting shot. Even more so

[dense violet]

eh, if it's just branches off the main line it can work, but the super power of trains is being able to reuse the infrastructure

[warped crane]

eh that is one potential benefit of trains

[dense violet]

compared to other options thats the main benefit.

[warped crane]

the main benefit in this case is its more reliable over a long distance than a truck

[dense violet]

otherwise use a truck or drone or belt

[warped crane]

and also higher throughput

[dense violet]

trucks are reliable if you build them right
if you need more throughput between stations you just add another truck

you really can't compare the throughput of trucks vs trains vs drones

[white dawn]

(Also the upcoming v1.2 is making it easier to build vehicles "right." It's definitely true that in v1.1 and earlier, vehicles have a nontrivial learning curve, and getting used to their quirks and such can take time)

[dense violet]

and every single logistics option has to 'be built right' to be reliable

[white dawn]

In the end, any of the logistics option (belts+pipes/vehicles/trains/drones) can be built out to support whatever throughput you need

[dense violet]

the main differences that should make your choices are

distances, terrain, other logistics you might be using between similar points (for train infrastructure mostly) and personal tastes

but 'reliability' is not one of them.
and throughput comparisons are .. fairly non existent.
you can always add more trucks or drones

[warped crane]

a single-car train on a fixed track that is shorter than the truck path that would go to the same destination is going to have a bit higher throughput than a truck taking a longer path at a lower average speed

but yeah obviously anything has to be "built right" to work at higher throughputss

[white dawn]

Why are you limiting yourself to a "single freight car" and "single truck" though?

[dense violet]

nope.
1 platform can never move 2 full belts

while 1 Truck station CAN move 2 full belts

[white dawn]

That's unrealistic. Make a train as long as you want, and use as many vehicles as you want

[dense violet]

they're wrong on that point in any case

[warped crane]

eh if I had more trucks sure but I don't want more trucks

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, the single freight car can't compete with a single vehicle's throughput, at least within the range bounds of round-trip time being short enough to not run into capacity limits

[dense violet]

ok but say your argument is 'i dont' like trucks' then.

because throughput and reliability are non points

[white dawn]

(It is okay to Not Like Trucks, of course! :D That's a valid reason not to use 'em.)

[dense violet]

if you say 'I don't like trucks' there's no argument

that's like someone saying 'I don't like the colour blue'

[warped crane]

I like trucks, I just preferred trains in this case

[dense violet]

can't argue against that

[distant zinc]

i loooove trains 🤤

i would eat a train

[frosty plover]

me too ❤️

wait so are trucks better cuz thats crazy

[distant zinc]

i wanna setup a subway system between major factories

screw other transport methods

[frosty plover]

real okay

nvm

[latent prawn]

the default turbofuel recipe is compacted coal + fuel = turbofuel. there's 2 alts for it as well, turbo heavy fuel yields less power for a simplified production chain, then the phase 4 blended turbofuel trades the need for coal for needing more oil. both turbo blend & default are pretty good for power, but in phase 3/early phase 4, you may be better off just building big dilluted fuel power. really depends on what your planning later.

[distant zinc]

nitro rocket fuel 🤤

[warped crane]

no they were right actually, depending on your use case

trains throughput surpasses trucks when you have multiple cars over longer distances and double lanes so you can have multiple trains running

[frosty plover]

oh yeah then its no question

[warped crane]

I'm actually thinking about tearing these trains out for trucks, thinking about it more 😂

[frosty plover]

trainz ;drool;

[latent prawn]

yeah, additionally, nitro rocket fuel makes fuel into rocket fuel directly. It's good in its own way, but again, depends on what your plans are down the road

[distant zinc]

i use trucks for medium distance, on even-ish terrain

trains are just better for rough terrain at long distance

[warped crane]

I honestly find a hard time justifying trains at all a lot of times with how I tend to play. My factories aren't big enough or spread out enough to warrant more than drones for longer distances than trucks can handle

and 1.2 does actually make vehicle paths ultra super easy

[earnest condor]

An interesting claim, given they are incapable of matching trucks platform v platform.

[distant zinc]

i just like having a big train line

[frosty plover]

i just got my first diluted fuel recipe so i got some work to do

[warped crane]

Do trains never surpass trucks in any way?

[latent prawn]

one thing i found out the hard way in 1.2 is that trains take 550 mw on 5x power. as such, prefering trucks and tractors is smart

[distant zinc]

think like, the melbourne city loop. central melbourne, with tons of train lines splitting out from it

that’s what i want

[latent prawn]

per freight car, no, but multiple frieght cars will

[warped crane]

yeah that's what I meant by "multiple cars" 🤔

[earnest condor]

Flexibility of re-routing.
Ease of expansion off existing infrastructure.
Ability to transfer power to location automatically.
They have multiple ways they win.
Throughput just isn't one of them.

[distant zinc]

trains are the goat

[earnest condor]

Multiple cars just means multiple platforms. Trucks still win purely for throughput because you can build multiple of those platforms too.

[frosty plover]

does anyone have the numbers

[distant zinc]

this is a truth nuke

[frosty plover]

im curious

[earnest condor]

What numbers?

[distant zinc]

trains look cooler

[frosty plover]

throughput

[earnest condor]

Oh, I wrote that page myself 😁

!wikisearch train throughput

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=train+throughput

[warped crane]

trains also don't require fuel routing, which is a win if they're moving anything that isn't burnable

[latent prawn]

its easy to design situations where one or the other bests the other on throughput. you need to define the case you are measuring to say one is better

[warped crane]

from a logistics POV

[earnest condor]

This is another area where they win.
Trains cost more fuel, but it is easier to fuel them since it is just "power."

[warped crane]

I'm so glad they put power towers in, though. I like routing my long distance power with ridiculous wires everywhere

[frosty plover]

frr

[warped crane]

but like, without having to build an obnoxious blueprint out of beams and wall connectors

[latent prawn]

really with either though, you can add more vehicles on a route to give more throughput. trains also allow adding more capacity to a single trip

[earnest condor]

One of the greatest building additions, no question.

[latent prawn]

with trains, however more trains on a route can decrease throughput as well

[earnest condor]

1.2 Tractor routes can go through the base of Power Towers too. Which can be cool to build with that in mind.

[warped crane]

yeah I can see that. whereas trucks can stack a lot more without that issue probably

that's cool to know sev 👀

[latent prawn]

the tractors are also great for 500 stack items like concrete or aluminum scrap

[frosty plover]

i havent been able to have the opportunity to use a vehicle yet

i have like 250 hours

[warped crane]

my steel plant is still powered by a single tractor trucking coal lol

[earnest condor]

Truck math is also simple in terms of "time route, factor the stacks/min being loaded vs. 48 stacks of the truck = know exactly how many trucks it will take with zero error margin."

[warped crane]

it is kind of funny that 1 truck has more cargo cap than 1 freight car 🤔

kind of feels like trains should get a lil buff to at least have parity with trucks

[earnest condor]

Also Fluid Trucks are actual goats when you get them.

[frosty plover]

question

isnt everything limited by belts anyways

[warped crane]

we need fluid tractors now (and fluid karts)

[earnest condor]

Trains do not need a buff 😁

[latent prawn]

they do. you can upgrade the train capacity by building another car on the end

[warped crane]

yes belts are the ultimate throughput limiter

[frosty plover]

so... why bothe

[warped crane]

bc some people like number go up

[earnest condor]

Fluid Trains actually got a buff.

[latent prawn]

that was honestly very needed

[earnest condor]

Because if you build a train or truck route, and you want more throughput, you need only add another platform at each end.

If belt, you have to build more belt the entire distance.

Vehicular logistics is more easily expanded and/or rerouted.

[latent prawn]

adding stations, either truck or train isn't always easy

[earnest condor]

But yes, belts beat everything if the sole metric you care about is throughput.

[frosty plover]

plus im a builder so my train gotta be glamour

okay i gotta lock in stop distracting me

[latent prawn]

trains overall are cooler, nothing like watching them roll into a busy station

i really do still feel that the game would be better if rails were less time consuming to build

[karmic veldt]

I finaly produced a fuel piping system that consume exactly what the reffineries produce leaving 0 extra fuel AND which is capable to load the full piping and fill up the generator without the filling lag that stops the end chain generators 😰

Took me hours of experimentation...

I know it worked because I never let the system idle to get full.

I even emptyed pipings many time for testing purpose.

[frosty plover]

this is what i will be doing post game

[karmic veldt]

All of this in a oil to fuel central with a headlift of 120m approx

[karmic veldt]

I love banging my head on problems and having to scratch to find the solution. But yeah I should continue phase 4

[worn oar]

Legit question for rural pioneers – How do I kill the 30-50 feral refineries that run into my factories within 3-5 minutes while my lizard doggos play?

[frosty plover]

what

is this a reference

[karmic veldt]

You need to find a lizard doggo tamer

[worn oar]

The lizard doggos are mine

[karmic veldt]

Or a veterinarian

[frosty plover]

im so confused i wat to cry

[worn oar]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

[karmic veldt]

I'm so cry I want to confuse

[frosty plover]

bro sent me a veyerus

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-huh-meme-funny-what-gif-13757300940814596109

[worn oar]

I love this game and wish I had more time to play it 💔

[karmic veldt]

I need even more headlifts
#screenshots message

[tranquil bolt]

What did you guys do once you beat the game twice lol

Im kinda outta things to do it feels like

[steel kelp]

With good blueprints they really arent that time consuming

I built a whole railway around the map in about 2 hours which, given the scale, is not a lot of time

[latent prawn]

getting a rail up to crater lake takes time, as does trying to run one through titan forest

[steel kelp]

again, with proper blueprints it really isnt that bad

If you’re laying everything manually the time to beat the whole game increases by 10x lol

[latent prawn]

it isn't the rails themselves, its the ramps for elevation changes, figuring out station placement, etc

[karmic veldt]

What would you do on blueprints for trains ? Exchange paths, this kind of thing ?

I only have blueprint mk2 🙁

[steel kelp]

ramps, turns, roundabouts and straight lines

The longest part becomes running around placing signals

[karmic veldt]

With the little "wrong" little sound that play when you missplace a signal

[steel kelp]

Autoconnect does a lot of the work, you dont really need blueprints for turns unless you’re a super neat freak

[latent prawn]

the longest part is designing the stations in awkward spots in the world

[karmic veldt]

I learned signal without tutorial it really got on my nerves lol

[steel kelp]

Its not that bad once you set yourself some parameters

I usually do them every 50 or so meters, so id just ping 50m ahead run to it and place the signals

Just busywork

[latent prawn]

what i'll say though is that the vehicle changes in 1.2 really address a lot of the issues with rails. you can now use them to do things that are icky for rails

[steel kelp]

Youve changed from rails to ramps to designing stations idrk what you want ppl to say lol

[latent prawn]

i build rails to use in my factory, not to run trains around in a loop

[dense violet]

it's a sand box game - you only 'beat the game' when you run out of personal projects

[steel kelp]

Ive not met anyone who builds tracks to just run trains in a loop lol

[dense violet]

like minecraft

[karmic veldt]

Or GTA san andreas

[limpid inlet]

is there a way to have blueprints always be in the save without importing/exporting?

[dense violet]

afaik that really isn't sand boxes though
those I guess you just keep shooting and driving until you're bored?

[karmic veldt]

We didn't had the same childhood 😭

[whole robin]

is it extremely rare to see the wierd flower bug walker things get ran over in the experimental patch main menu? or is it a scripted thing? because i never knew that they walked the crosswalk to begin with, let alone get ran over by the cars driving

[karmic veldt]

It used to be the game I would play constantly when I was younger, it killed time. Just driving and listening to 80-90 rock music.

[cursive crane]

Most menu screen backgrounds like this are just looped recordings so..

[desert ermine]

im kinda liking this dune desert spawn. lots of nodes, lots of space to build, water isn't as big of an issue as initially stated in the main menu when selecting it.

[dense violet]

the only thing that's similar with GTA and Minecraft is you're moving in a 3d environment and can interact with some elements of teh world

and even then the level of interaction is dramatically different

[worn oar]

Anything I don't like is objectively bad; meanwhile, anything I like is the best addition to the game since the last thing I liked.

[karmic veldt]

You have a hard time recognizing a joke ? Obviously it's not a Sandbox like I cannot place a single piece of construction to get créative but I found it funny to say san Andreas was a Sandbox ><

However, I had wild moment with the PC version and the modding community, san Andreas was the "all in one" game as you could download a ton of mods and transform the game as you want

11 years old and I was modding san Andreas instead of making friend or smoking weed. I was a bad kid.

[limpid inlet]

its probably the best spawn unironically

the first spawn basically takes you there when coal comes around

[karmic veldt]

What ? Grass fields take you to dune désert for coal ?

[latent prawn]

the thing i don't care for about DD is that its kind of its own little world isolated in the corner. traveling to other places is quite a distance

[limpid inlet]

the clostest spot for it is the place with the mercer spheres and 4 batches of coal near a ton of water

nvm

[karmic veldt]

Yeah I was about to say I never went this far for coal lol

My first nodes were: #screenshots message

[dense violet]

I've seen so many insane online takes that it really wouldn't be worth doubting people at this point

[karmic veldt]

I can't argue, you are pretty right actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

It's my second favorite internet adage, first one would be:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law

[minor rock]

we should fasttrack AI in the game, it plays it for you basically from start, and you get screenshots of the progress the AI makes to your mobile device, that way you have time to play other games . and then like you can go in game, check out the factories, do a bit of sightsee, and keep the best job of collecting slugs and harddrives, leave that to the player, but the tedius base building, that can be for the AI. and it'd be better if the screenshots were scaled by AI , because the textures in this game are kinda meh. hopefully we get it in the next version

[karmic veldt]

We should fast track AI in our life, it lives for you basically from start, and you get text messages of the progress the AI makes in your life, that way you have time to wank hard until your eventualy die. And then like you can go in your life, check out the absence of social life, do a bit of ****, and keep the best job of doing nothing, leave that to the human, but the tedius life living, that can be for the AI. and it'd be better if the text messages were scaled by AI , because the letters in the alphabet are kinda meh. hopefully we get it in next life

[minor rock]

I'm really glad you said that. Hopefully with the developments of VR and AR, and AI integration, with tons of datacentres, we live in a completely virtual world that can give us instant delivery and so on, and itd mean we have an AI monitoring ourr physical bodies, tube feeding us etc., when we eat a meal in the virtual reality situation. For the maximal life experiences maybr we could go pick cotton in a field one day, and mine some sulphur the next. It'd be like minecraft. And then in the virtual reality, you could use an AI assistant to guide you in a conversation and tedious activities like that . Writing text messages, reading them, all summarized by AI so you don't have to do those things

Hopefully the datacentre expansion continues, everything is automated, and Ai becomes more powerful than ever. It'll get so evolved we'll just call her phonetically AI, like eye, she'll be everywhere, and we test this out with mandatory AR, then go into VR permanently. Games like this one should be the testing ground for the deployment of those technologies, with feature like autoplacement , auto ping, auto factory build, resource extraction, and then you can sight see, do whatevrr you actually want, rather than grinding away 24/7

[karmic veldt]

Who needs water anyway.

Which episode of black mirror is this ?

[dense violet]

Now I'm wondering if you can make a whole world system, tier 1-9 w/o using water

ah no I'm a dummy, there's no way to make bauxite w/o it at the very least

[minor rock]

no thats part of the tube feeding, its water too . you can quench your thirst at any time in the VR

like it just rains in the real world

[copper laurel]

I've been wondering and pondering for a while now and have to ask here. Why are MK3 Belts the way they are?

And MK5 too

[dense violet]

something something base cycle of production or something. Can never remember the details whenever it's brought up because I just don't care about it xD

[copper laurel]

MK1: 60 items/min
MK2: 120 items/min
MK3: 270 items/min
MK4: 480 items/min
MK5: 780 items/min
MK6: 1200 items/min

What is the logic here?

[lapis knot]

Who knows, I always assumed it was for change of pace with progression or making the player think differently when building

[quick hound]

Completely random and off topic, but have ya’ll ever just listen to Micheal Jackson and realize this man had over 4 billion fans without internet?

[lapis knot]

Yeah, its wild

[abstract heron]

i think its better belts as progression in the game

are my hrs good? 19,566 hrs on record

[lapis knot]

Being famous pre-internet was a different level

[quick hound]

I know right

[quick hound]

Been listening to some acapellas. Dude, Beat It is so good as an Acapella

[abstract heron]

are my hrs good

and why are we talking about music in thsi chanel?

[lapis knot]

Sorry boss

[quick hound]

And knowing MJ hated Autotune, and the only form of “autotune” he used was echoing (for thriller), and voice layering.

[copper laurel]

Yeah but the numbers are illogical. MK3 is 2.25 times more efficient than MK2 like why? Why not 2 times or 2.5 times

MK5 is 1.625 times more efficient than MK4 which is even more illogical

[quick hound]

MJ is peak, that’s why gng

[abstract heron]

Just wanting to act in the good chanels

[quick hound]

Snitch.. EVERYONE FEED HIM TO THE BIOMASS BURNERS!

[abstract heron]

are my hrs good 19,566 hrs on record TOTAL 5,725hr in my world

[quick hound]

You need 444 more hours.

[abstract heron]

Yes i do to get 20khrs then pinging jason and mikael

[lapis knot]

Make sure to annouce it when you hit 20k! And post it in screenshots

[abstract heron]

I might

soon irl summer is coming and i might have to go off the game soonish

due to IRL HEAT which i hate

[quick hound]

You better run, you better do what you can
Don't wanna see no blood, don't be a macho man
You wanna be tough, better do what you can
So beat it, but you wanna be bad

[abstract heron]

I am currently working on 100 nuclear pasta per minute or maybe even 200 pasta per minute

yes its coming to heat summer time soonish

nut now i need zzzz soonish

[quick hound]

Make that 1 nuclear pasta a minute. Cause I’m currently making nuclear spaghetti with your pasta.

[abstract heron]

Idk what the devs will do for me reaching 20khrs LEGITLY

[quick hound]

I know what I’ll do.

Kick ya in the nuts!

[abstract heron]

Lovely my world is at 15kGBS

[quick hound]

And force feed you grass

[abstract heron]

umm no

And yes ill be pinging mikael and jason and Community mangers hard 😛

But its bed time soonish

When i go into its like 22kgb or 21kgb

i hope when i get 20khrs mikael and jason put something nice in for me

Actually i think i need 434 hrs total

not 444hrs

[worn oar]

270 doesn't quite max out a Mk2 miner on a normal node, pushing you to automate encased industrial beams sooner. It also requires you to recalculate some things. 780 I think is a relic from 5 years ago when that was the most they could push through and have the belts remain stable on older systems.

[abstract heron]

on pure node mk3 u can get 1200 items per minute

[worn oar]

Yes

[abstract heron]

434

[abstract heron]

yay my hrs 😛

[worn oar]

Shout out to your 15 terabyte savefile, that must take 1.5123874e+12 hours to load up

[abstract heron]

i am playing it atm getting around 20 to 25fps or 28fps at best

still playable

But me need his rest

Or then i am half awake etc etc

[main spear]

are you satisfied

[abstract heron]

me in game

[fluid spire]

Struggling with my first coal powerplant, is there a channel I can ask for help?

[minor rock]

do you mind sharing save im trying to see how much i can build before my system starts dying on the game, hard to find saves for some reason

[latent prawn]

the odd belts are there to support the builds you need to do at certain tech levels

[minor rock]

can ask for help here, that's great. if you need lots of helps there is #1038092680493801533 x

[abstract heron]

my huge one?

[minor rock]

yea the worst one for performance you have xD

[abstract heron]

fyi i am NOT giving anyone my saves my the devs and one person who i shared it to

the devs ofc so they can fix it or need it

[minor rock]

save release at 20k would be banger, thats fair tho

[abstract heron]

maybe when i am all done WITH the mods i use

cause then after world border u WILL DIE IN GAME

[minor rock]

theres like 30 right ?

[abstract heron]

36 as of now

i am not even at tier 9 yet

[minor rock]

then you haven't built out far enough x

the killbox stops killing eventually

[abstract heron]

I have a mod where it does not have world borders

[whole ermine]

I have extra polymer resin should i turn it into rubber or plastic

[fluid spire]

So I have a system of 4 coal-powered generators, all hooked up to my main power grid, the first two are functioning normally but the second two say "no power" and I can't understand why

[abstract heron]

Have u swore at it

[whole ermine]

i can make 180 plastic or 270 rubber

[clear mesa]

You should probably make whatever it is you need

[whole ermine]

thats smart

[abstract heron]

i often at the start make 1 machine for each item with nodes nearby

even if its poop numbers

[whole ermine]

Ill just leave it going into a sink and whatever i need it for ill just makke it there and train it over

[clear mesa]

That is probably the most efficient thing you can do yeah

[whole ermine]

i think ill want rubber tho for heat sinks?

[clear mesa]

Really just depends on what phase you are in the game

4?

Then again also just depends on how much you're making of other stuff, plastic is needed in excess too

[whole ermine]

Actually, maybe illl turn it into fabric for radioactive filters

Then again i can just manually make it with a slooped manufacturer

[clear mesa]

I'd actually always want to automate those idk

Automate everything like filters, ammo and fuel

Makes it so I can just grab them easily from the dimensional depot

[copper laurel]

Send us a screenshot of the water system

[fluid spire]

Not gonna lie I just finished deleting it all and trying again, but if I run into the same problem I will

[copper laurel]

Water is usually the main culprit, if they don't fill with water it's either too steep or a connection error

[fluid spire]

steep as in the pipes themselves?

[fiery pewter]

Yes

[abstract heron]

I hate the summer for playing the game due to IRL heat

[fiery pewter]

Extractors give 10m of headlift

[abstract heron]

i only paly on cool mornings

[copper laurel]

A water extractor can push water only 10m upwards, but if you make a water tower with pumps attached to the pipe between 30m and 40m tall it can reach everything beneath it without trouble

[abstract heron]

build liquids ON LOWER floors and item on higher floors

[fiery pewter]

To each their own playstyle

[abstract heron]

Fair enoough

[fiery pewter]

I like seeing all my pipes zooping around

[abstract heron]

@fiery pewter are my hrs good enough?

[fluid spire]

Okay I can kind of understand that, but I was getting confused when my first two were functioning just fine and the last two said "no power"

[copper laurel]

*is standing in a factory in IRL and it's already +30°C in the morning inside the building *
IRL heat? What's that?

[abstract heron]

as the night comes to a end shortly for me i am at 19,567hrs

[abstract heron]

I only play on cool mornings for satisfactory in summer which i hate

[abstract heron]

Here it comes in summer probbaly 22C at best or 23C at best during hot days

[copper laurel]

Liquids can be as stubborn as Molly the M.U.L.E

30 is already my lowest 🤣

[fluid spire]

Yeah it's my first time working with them myself lol

[abstract heron]

here in winter can get to like -19C or -22C in cold cold COLD COLD mornings

[fluid spire]

I'll make more space for a more gentle slope from the pumps themselves

[copper laurel]

My hometown get's that cold too so I'm used to all extremes and just take it

[fluid spire]

That should work, right?

[copper laurel]

Nope

[abstract heron]

I love satisfactory in winter it makes it hotter

[fluid spire]

Uh oh

[abstract heron]

and satisfactory aka space heater

[copper laurel]

As soon as it's 10m above the water extractores output you need pumps on the pipe

[fluid spire]

Ahhh ok

[abstract heron]

yay devs are waking up MAYBE A twitch stream today

Alrighty i need my beauty sleep

[copper laurel]

But these pumps also give an additional 20m headlift, so if you let a pipe run straight up on a wall and add a pump or two on the way up it will fill everything below the highest point

I would love to send you a screenshot of my pipe setup but I'm not at home

And I can't send pictures 🤔

[dense violet]

show some overhead images of what you're doing in a #1038092680493801533 or #math-and-meta , this is a terrible channel to trouble shoot things in

[fluid spire]

I'm gonna give it another shot and if I run into troubles then I totally will

First time in the server idk how I missed the questions and help channel lol

[dense violet]

there's very easy basics that, if you don't follow, can screw up your system.
but those are also very easy to overcome when you know about them. I'd recommend showing what you have now. Could save you hours of pain

[fluid spire]

Well I tore down what I had cause I don't mind starting from scratch, but if I mess it up again I'll be back lol

[abstract heron]

Hiya cobalt

[cursive topaz]

1.2...?

[mortal ginkgo]

in 16 minutes

[cursive topaz]

ha ha 😐

[mortal ginkgo]

I wasn't joking

[cursive topaz]

i call cap

[mortal ginkgo]

no cap bro fr fr uwu

[minor rock]

i asked ChatGPT, said 14 mins so 16 mins was correct ✅

[mortal ginkgo]

See. The guy knows.

[minor rock]

Gemini just confirmed that

[mortal ginkgo]

He got both AI and Anime on his side.

[minor rock]

I'm keen

[mortal ginkgo]

He uses multiple anime and ai powers

[minor rock]

The power of awesome 😎

[mortal ginkgo]

He is awesome that for sure frfr no cap brooooooo

[minor rock]

i don't think drug talk is allowed, caps are NSFW

[mortal ginkgo]

everything is NSFW with this generation

BACK IN MAH DAYS

[cursive topaz]

male humor peaks at 12

and holds steady till 45

[minor rock]

ChatGPT is counting down for me so i don't forget

il;'; ping you guys when its done

[rigid wedge]

I think there should be a recipe to turn Iron Ingots or ore into steel with water in the refinery too

Pure steel ingos

[lethal dome]

steel without the coal becomes iron my guy

[rigid wedge]

U can make steel with water

[lethal dome]

you know the chemical composition of steel right?

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean he wants ingos, not ingots

[lethal dome]

fair enough

[mortal ginkgo]

See? We shouldn't judge too quick to avoid mistakes.

After all, ingos deserve love too.

[rigid wedge]

There’s a process to make steel without coal irl

[unkempt blade]

it's a very soft sci fi game so what's even the point of this?

[rigid wedge]

Unless I’m missing something

There’s no way to double ores with water irl