satisfactory

[unkempt blade]

the game is telling you to branch out and try different recipes

[shy temple]

Like, insanely awesome.

Consider how many steps between raw bio product to liquid biofuel...

Only drawback is needing your dump container to put it in with the first place.

[zenith badge]

Im at finish phase 3..... im so confused.... my base is a mess... organization is a no go

[dense violet]

yea hthat happens if you build it all in the same spot

[shy temple]

It happens Scarecrow, especially if newer to the game or hitting in a new phase

[dense violet]

just build a new factory for hte new parts

[shy temple]

I actually have the same thing in my game and I have been playing since EA launch

[zenith badge]

Should I build them in layers or what??

[shy temple]

What can happen at that point is the stuff made in that base I try to collect. Then take a moment to sort of collect all the raw resources coming in, plan connections, etc.

I recommend build in what way you can most easily follow. Some might go vertical. Others expand out modular. Or build new bases

[dense violet]

up to you really. Just layout

[glass turtle]

Not neccessarily. Once you have walls, foundations, lifts, holes,... you can absolutely build it all in one spot in an organised fashion. But you likely wont, and im certainly prone not to.

But yeah

[dense violet]

not if you don't know what you're doing

it very easily becomes a mess

[glass turtle]

Yes

[dense violet]

also if you're just adding on new sections without planning it won't be great. At best

[faint willow]

Can confirm, actually from experience

[zenith badge]

I've built and rebuilt 5 different times in a span of an hour and I can't figure anything out

[faint willow]

I spent the last nine hours building a perfect building for iron mining and smelting, and the moment I tried to branch off it turned into a shitshow

[zenith badge]

That's how I feel

[glass turtle]

I am also a person that is very prone to lawnbasing. Not just here, in games like minecraft, too. Just putting all machines, chests, what have you, on in the outside unroofed

Well, right now i am building everything on a large plattform over the eastern ocean

With a bit of verticality, more to come or its supposed to

[shy temple]

Is how it goes. Tearing down and rebuilding can be frustrating, especially if it already works. I do have tips though.

One thing can be that if it is working, try to just get catwalks around it and such, just to improve your feel so not running and jumping everywhee.

[jovial tapir]

yeah, might as well do that

[faint willow]

Catwalks and walkways are my babies man ❤️

[shy temple]

Make what I call a mall if you are having to run to different places to grab stuff. Essentially conveyor the goods you need to one spot.

[glass turtle]

You need to have the blender unlocked at least

[shy temple]

After that, build yourself some nice wide roadways to where you want to expand. Sort of recollect everything you need for next phase.

[dense violet]

you want al lthe recipes anyway 🙂

[glass turtle]

But there are more drives than there are alt recipes so

[jovial tapir]

Which I do, I just had this thought in my head that it was only showing recipes based of the machines I have been using

[glass turtle]

Just having it unlocked is enough. I just unlocked diluted fuel myself

[zenith badge]

I've noticed if you use the lifts you can connect them then remove the one on the receiving end then continue that to the other assembler or whatever you are using.... no need for catwalks

[jovial tapir]

Congratulations

[shy temple]

Yuppers. Catwalks are more for you if you find yourself having trouble getting around if things are too dense

[glass turtle]

(i also earlier wasted a drive on unlocking diluted packaged fuel lol but whatever, theres enough drives to go around)

[shy temple]

It is a tricky thing when playing to keep the mindset to give yourself space.

RTG, you trolling? That is one of the best alts

[zenith badge]

Im gonna try and build things on different floors and sort from there

[glass turtle]

Why? I have to clumsily package it first and then handle that thatd be annoying, no?

[sterile blade]

Not if you already have blenders :P (or plan to skip Packagers anyway)

[shy temple]

Play around with different layouts. Bet thing to be able to enjoy satisfactory is laying things out in a way that you enjoy

[glass turtle]

Yeah i did not want to deal with packagers

[jovial tapir]

I have already unlocked that

[glass turtle]

And now i have blenders

[shy temple]

Well, it seems that way, but you can reuse the containers. It gets you a lot more fuel for the input.

[glass turtle]

I mean, yeah, but thers plenty enough oil to get you to blenders without it.

[shy temple]

Alt recipes are not so much any are 'better' as they have tradeoffs. Some require different combination of resources. Or more advanced buildings, or like with diluted, a more involved process.

True, it can get you to blenders, but depending on if you are rushing the phases or not can make a difference.

And how you play too

It is I guess nicer for players who don't tear down what they built. Like me for example where the refineries I set up will continue to supply.

[glass turtle]

Indeed

Well... I still have 11 refineries with alternate heavy residue lined up... Not running now, but supplied. So thatll need 9 blenders and the fuel will be capable of fueling 44 fuel power plants. 33 Gigawatts

[hard wolf]

that should be good for now. I would suggest trying to make like 80 to 90 Gw once you can start building converters/accelerators/encoders

[glass turtle]

I dont even have advanced aluminium yet

Once i do i could unlock rocket fuel.

In which case... Well, a single pure node of oil could provide 144 GW from what i am seing but 33 will be plenty for now.

[hard wolf]

heavy oil residue to diluted fuel to nitro rocket fuel can make 4800 rocket fuel/m off of 2 overclocked pure nodes. which is 288 Mw. that would definitely be enough, and you can probably find a spot that can put out 1200 crude/m

definitely enough, relative to my needs, so you might need more or less, but I've completed phase 5 and haven't expanded power yet xwx

[normal orbit]

heh, i made 288gw from rokkit fuel, then built my aluminium factory turned it on and realised it was schlorping down 260gw alone :p

[reef basin]

Can do the packaged version

[reef basin]

No, it's super easy, with blueprints its practically equal

[rough crest]

so basically fuel is better than nuclear?

and way less steps

[normal orbit]

better in what sense?

[rough crest]

you make more power

[normal orbit]

it makes less power, but yes is easier

[reef basin]

More power per what?

[rough crest]

then what about this? a pure node makes 144GW?

[normal orbit]

an impure uranium can make 210GW

[reef basin]

That's pure node of oil with other raw resources added

Not just pure node

Basically people try to minimise oil usage by boosting it with other resources

[rough crest]

but i saw on wiki that a 600/min uranium turns into 6 fuel rods which is 75GW

and that's a normal node, so a pure would be double

[normal orbit]

wiki would be wrong

[reef basin]

Which wiki? Link?

[rough crest]

it's not letting me send google nuclear power plant fandom.com

[reef basin]

Fandom is outdated

[normal orbit]

300 uranium/min make 7.2 U rods/min + 3,2 Pu Rods/min + 16 Ficsonium rods/min for 210GW

[rough crest]

at the end it says mk3 250% 600 uranium/min it's 30 plants with 75 000 MW

[reef basin]

Use official wiki

[raven axle]

Official Satisfactory Wiki

This is the totally awesome community driven wiki for Satisfactory!! Come on in and check it out!
<3 @reef basin

[reef basin]

That's probably with base recipes

[rough crest]

ohhhhhh why don't they take it down then

[normal orbit]

ad revenue

[reef basin]

Because that's not something we can do

[cursive topaz]

fandom needs to burn

[rough crest]

anyways im pretty sure 600 uranium/min turns into 6 rods which alone are 75GW and I don't intend to process plutonium but just sink the plutonium rods to have no waste problems

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

what do you think

[sterile blade]

So that people who don't know any better keep visiting their money-farm 🤑

[rough crest]

like me 🙁 i mean fandom is great in other games

i assumed it was ok

[normal orbit]

can make 14.4 with alts rather than just 6

[sterile blade]

Yep, 1 rod to 100 Uranium/min is with standard recipes (lowest rod-to-UraniumOre ratio)

[sterile blade]

It's about as great as the players putting data in it for free can make it 😅

[red sun]

Fandom sucks

[rough crest]

so you really recommend alternative and use more materials and less uranium or the complexity is not worth it

[glass turtle]

15 will do for now. Could add 29 more if i wanted but...

3 diluted fuel blenders and 15 fuel power plants for now. Easy to expand though if i wanted to.

[normal maple]

they can cuz if theyre under stress from like birds sitting on them

[glass turtle]

That power should be enough to get me to get to advanced aluminium so i could make rocket fuel. Id hope. My new factory is gonna be built from the ground up. Iron and copper ore to ingots is my first project

[sterile blade]

Ehh... Depends on what you like to build ^^
Nuclear is plenty of fun if you like complex production chains, but Fuel (liquid Fuel) can get plenty of power for a fraction of the overall production steps... (not as much power, but still plenty)

[rough crest]

im doing nuclear my friend is doing fuel so we have both and see what we like most

xd

the idea is to sink plastic and plutonium to deal with byproducts in both cases

[sterile blade]

Tbf, few people go to Nuclear without going through Fuel xD
It's just that Fuel is so convenient that few feel like tackling nuclear rather than just expanding on fuel production

[rough crest]

but they are missing out

[sterile blade]

I agree...
This specific point (nuclear Vs fuel and how convenient they are compared to one another) is often discussed in the server xD

[hard wolf]

nuclear takes power to get started. if you skip over fuel you could cause yourself to lock your power grid up to enough of an extent that you'd have to fix it with fuel anyway

[glass turtle]

Certainly gonna want to do some nuclear to get rid of the annoying uranium rocks laying around everywhere on the map exposing me to rads

[rough crest]

i was thinking of using batteries for that

[glass turtle]

(which, they shouldnt, uranium is an alpha emitter, it doesnt get through your skin, you can touch it. And you can touch fuel rods, too. No issue.)

[rough crest]

but y since my friend is trying out fuel we don't even need to do that anymore

[dense violet]

really what you want out of it , do you want it to just be easier?
if so base recipes and more uranium ore is probably simpler

[rough crest]

he's making 10GW fuel plant

[hard wolf]

that's asking for a doomsday timer

[glass turtle]

(thats UNUSED fuel rods. Once fuel rods have been used, theres all sorts of decay products that are more nasty)

[rough crest]

im making 75GW nuclear plant with base recipe

[rough crest]

y im going base for first time

[dense violet]

I'm not sure either of you will get a good idea of what you like more if only 1 of you does each

[glass turtle]

Thing is, even a single pure oil deposit can produce 144GW

[rough crest]

my friend told me it's 5 lol

do you have a project

ahahaahahah

[sterile blade]

Nothing that a few power storages can't take care of :P

It can even work as a challenge, if one is into that sort of things... (eg: "can I get the Nuclear factory going within X minutes, before my power storages run out?")

[glass turtle]

Not yet, i dont even have rocket fuel unlocked. But with just diluted fuel its still already 10GW

no, 20GW

[rough crest]

oh wait he was using plain fuel

what is the most op fuel we skip to that

[glass turtle]

20GW is by turning the oil into heavy residual and then make diluted fuel from that.

[sterile blade]

🚀 ⛽

[glass turtle]

And then there is rocket fuel, yes. That would give 144GW coupled with diluted fuel

With 576 Fuel Generators

Thats just a single deposit of pure oil

[rough crest]

ok....

that is highly incovenient

at this pont i prefer nuclear where the hell do you even place ~500 generators

[sterile blade]

Eh, blueprints and verticality make that relatively easy to pull off.
Having the materials ready might the most annoying part

[glass turtle]

I mean, youd also still need nearly 60 nuclear powerp lants for the same amount of power

[solid eagle]

Oh
Neat :P

[glass turtle]

So

[rough crest]

true but im making 30 plants for now and that seems doable

and a little factory to process the uranium rods

[sterile blade]

That's like 58 stacks of quickwire just for the generators 🙃

[rough crest]

then for waste turn into plutonium rods real quick with a couple of accelerators and sink

seems way more fun than placing the same thing 500 times xd

ok we decided to just use the pure node of oil for 10GW ez power no extra process takes 15 min to set up

and we do nuclear

my friend saw all the recipes of all the other fuels and said nope ahahah and i agree considering we need that many fuel generators

what ill do for advanced fuel maybe with another node is package it in a small factory to have it as a consumable i guess not use for power

[hard wolf]

imo, hold off a bit on rocket until you can make synthetic power shards, then overclock all of the fuel generators. it'll massively reduce the number of generators you need, and RF not needing headlift is fantastic

also, HOR to diluted fuel to nitro rocket fuel is really nice

[rough crest]

ohhh i see ty for tips

[dense violet]

you still need 10x as many fuel generators compared to nuclear. It's a real awful set up

[rough crest]

ok 60 water extractor done

now im placing 30 nuclear plants right above them

[gleaming wasp]

a few stocked DDs makes that job trivial

[rough crest]

guys actually im worried

how much is radiation radius??

i dont want to it to get in base

but if i deal with waste instead of storing it it shouldn't get to those 400m radius or smt right?

[hard wolf]

automate iodine infused filters feeding into a depot and get a hazmat suit

[rough crest]

i have that

[glass turtle]

Aww, i think ADA may be done with her communication with the mercesloops or whatever the canon term for them is

[hard wolf]

as long as you have it far enough away from the rest if your infrastructure you should be fine

[rough crest]

look in screenshots

the plant will be where i am with 30 generators and my main base is where the home icon is

what do you think

[glass turtle]

If you need a way to store the waste, ill happily let you build me a home out of dry caskets.

[rough crest]

i think storing is not an option on a dedicated server

[hard wolf]

if you look at the satisfactory interactive map there's a large space east of the swamp coast that should be able to accommodate your needs. that's also kind of just a good spot for a nuclear plant. though if you don't want to worry about waste you could always build out to being able to sink plutonium rods

[glass turtle]

ore ficstonium and use it all

[rough crest]

so if i sink im basically good and i dont have to transport materials

[glass turtle]

The only thing you can sink though are plutonium rods

[rough crest]

cause this spot is so good tbf i have water right under uranium is super close build a little block to make the rods real quick cause all resources are near as well

i could make it really compact without having to ship large amount of materials across the map

[gleaming wasp]

should i be conserving caterium?

is there some recipie late-game that demands a ton of caterium?

[rough crest]

yes

[hard wolf]

you can do both. just sink plutonium until you need to expand, build out the plutonium to ficsonium line when you're ready, and link plutonium rods to the plant expansion with hopefully zero issues as long as you set it up properly

[gleaming wasp]

please tell me the recipie morgan

[rough crest]

anything that uses caterium wire

[gleaming wasp]

i don't see anything that consumes too much quickwire

[hard wolf]

transporting materials in? that depends on the size of the plant. transporting waste out isn't an issue of you're converting all of the waste and sinking the plutonium

[rough crest]

but if i turn it into plutonium and immediately sink do i really need to move it to another location than the plant

the question is will the raditiation be able to accumulate fast enough before it's destroyed

cause if it can maintain a certain large radius cause destruction process takes too much it's a problem

[hard wolf]

nah, but I wouldn't touch the blue crater for anything other than fuel. especially if you might need to fuel a bunch of drones/trucks later. otherwise it's nbd

[serene thunder]

surely this must have been asked before, but would it not be cool in phase 9,
||
since we the pioneer can teleport, we should be able to create teleport endpoints for belts too?
||

[next ivy]

logic ? in my engineering game ?

[hard wolf]

I think about it a lot, and I think it would be cool, but that's an absolute metric fuckload of singularity cells

[desert ermine]

should i even bother with the tractor or just wait until i have trains?

im just using it to transport myself and building materials right now.

[hard wolf]

in 1.1 I wouldn't worry about it. in 1.2 definitely, though if you're willing to work around the current mechanics they're not bad

[desert ermine]

also i find it mildly entertaining that i got pipe bombs before i got a normal gun

[desert ermine]

im running into problems due to coal being super far away from any iron sources. i spawned in the forest.

[hard wolf]

if you're building a coal plant, build as far as you need. if you're building a steel factory, make the steel there and logistics it back. Also you can use a bit less coal in the steel factory and use it to fuel the trucks

though I started in the northern forest and belted coal to my starter base, so it's doable

[glass turtle]

Got to 1100m height with elevators, i believe i am allowed to go nearly twice as high, right?

Dont think ill go THAT high, surely thatd be entirely unneccessary

[tepid rampart]

gotta make an elevator up to build height then make a tube tornado down

[glass turtle]

Can see the entire world from 1100m already

[rigid wedge]

traktor has to be the most insane transport method ever #satisfactory-experimental message

[next ivy]

makin trucks finally somewhat viable

[rigid wedge]

seems to only work with traktor path

[stoic salmon]

can i use rocket fuel and like air filters and stuff from my dimentional depot without taking it out

[rigid wedge]

i tried driving it manually and didnt work

[rigid wedge]

no

[stoic salmon]

sad

[fluid sapphire]

just take multiple stacks, they last quite a while

[stoic salmon]

ik i just want to have infinite and not have to restock ever

and not take up inventory space

[fluid sapphire]

what you need that inventory space for if you have depots setup

[stoic salmon]

well i dont have them setup yet

but i just like nice clean inventory

[rigid wedge]

not in this game

[stoic salmon]

😢

[normal orbit]

to hold stuff as you inevitable dismantle a blueprint :p

[fluid sapphire]

plenty of space for that even with a few stacks of filters and rocket fuel

[normal orbit]

dunno what dinky lil blueprints you have :p

[stoic salmon]

xd

[normal orbit]

i can dismantle two then my inventory is full

[fluid sapphire]

somehow i doubt my guy here has blueprints like that

[desert ermine]

if you dismantle something that uses encased beams do you lose the encased beams?

nvm inventory full

[normal orbit]

find the nearest dismantle box

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac missed opportunity for office doggos to tell people about the 1.2 paws mode

[crimson ermine]

if i place a miner mk.1 on a pure node and connect a mk.2 belt to it, will the output be 120/min or 60/min?

[heady zealot]

W

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> can even have office doggos make terrible puns in voice over.

doggo a: oh dog, I keep getting killed by these awful kitties when I need to step away from the computer to chase a squirrel
doggo b: that's ruff, buddy

[dense violet]

see what it says on the miner

you have all the info in the control panel
or check the wiki page for miners

!wikisearch miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=miner

[dense violet]

for example

[little gale]

after 1000h I wish I could like this game

[dense violet]

oh well, good luck with things

[tall lantern]

if you didn't like it after even a 10th of that you should probably have moved onto something else

[fast hamlet]

are coffee stain going to add randomly generated worlds

[tall lantern]

doubt it

[little gale]

it was my first automation game in 2019, and I really wanted for it to be good, but with overall development i dont see it

[ebon marten]

random ores? yes

[fast hamlet]

k

[little gale]

there are to many things that are bad for the sake of it

[severe escarp]

hiii!

is there any ratio calculator or something like that?

[dense violet]

do you mean a planner? https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=lnjPJ49d2HRGWgkw5yv8

[bitter crow]

when is Uranium fuel unit useful?

[unkempt blade]

1000h is quite a bit of time for a game you don't like

[dense violet]

well look at what it does

the base recipe gets you 1 rod from 50 cells right?

compare that to the unit recipe

[normal orbit]

All the time

[bitter crow]

20 for 0.6

compared to 20 for 0.4

[dense violet]

yup.
but you have a lot more resources and complexity for it

[severe escarp]

yeah, thanks. rn I need to learn how to use it LoL

[dense violet]

so it's useful whne that's a good trade for you

[bitter crow]

yeah.. crystal oscillators n shit

[dense violet]

it's pretty straight forward

[severe escarp]

do I need a pc for that?

[dense violet]

if you arne't going to maxout uranium rods then the base recipe is generally 'better' since you have more options

[severe escarp]

will it be easier?

[dense violet]

a pad could work I guess? planners are awkard on phones

[severe escarp]

I will use my laptop ig

[bitter crow]

i think i will save it, incase i want to use it

[dense violet]

I haven't seen any planners that might be even ok on phones

[dense violet]

sure, it's a fine recipe if you're really trying ot max uranium power

there's other alt recipes along the chain that can also increase output so that's not your only option

[little gale]

why aren't building/blueprint zoopable, and if they were - it should auto connect belts

[bitter crow]

i guess it could be because of hardware limitations

[dense violet]

if you hate the game it shouldn't matter.
I think blueprints shouldn't exist

[little gale]

i dont hate it, i want it to be better, i hoped for so long it would get good sometime but its probably over for any reworks of existing systems

[dense violet]

I hope blueprints get smaller and never become zoopable ❤️

[rigid wedge]

I hope traktor can fly and roll on water

[dense violet]

ooooh ... I'll miss trucks being able to use jump pads but I won't hope they revert back to the old truck pathing

[rigid wedge]

oh btw cobalt I did the setup you recommend me and it works. big thankers

[dense violet]

the first system was a little awkward

[dense violet]

the aluminium?

[rigid wedge]

the train fluid buffer thing

[dense violet]

ah nice yeah, those are tried and tested layouts

[little gale]

Devs allow you to place millions of buildings separately, and I will probably lag at some point, but why would I need to take time if I want to build big and for it to lag? Why aren't I allowed?

[dense violet]

definitely not the only once you can do but compact and tidy

[rigid wedge]

#satisfactory-experimental message at least it can do that

[rigid wedge]

tbh i thought i do a few hours quick setup and ended up taking 3 days. i was happy when its done

the 900 fluid tanks a minute were a mistake xD

[dense violet]

why would you make that many pm?

[stoic salmon]

is it possible to get rid of the plants that after like 15 seconds start producing poison

[dense violet]

bombs

[stoic salmon]

cool

[dense violet]

or just run past them , they usually arent in spots you want to build anyway

[stoic salmon]

just good to know incase

[rigid wedge]

to feed my truck empire

[dense violet]

are you running them on rocket fuel or something?

[rigid wedge]

tbh its too much but I tend to make too big plans but go through with it anyways. theres so many resources on the map and im using barely any

[rigid wedge]

now I am yes

[dense violet]

fair enough

[unkempt blade]

have you considered tearing down that factory and replacing all your trucks with factory carts?

[rigid wedge]

I will replace all my trucks with the superior traktor paths

#screenshots message rn I have a single train pushing towards t9

[rigid wedge]

look at that its hilarious #satisfactory-experimental message

[wet moon]

do people usually have "max consumption" and "consumption" that are close together in terms of power? my blue line is like 2x higher than my actual power consumption

[rigid wedge]

technically that would be optimal but in my case no

i consume 11k mw and max cons is 15,5k mw

[unkempt blade]

1. It doesn't have to be close unless you want it to. Production just needs to be higher
2. IMO a huge difference means you're overbuilding power too much. If that's fun for you then go right ahead but otherwise it's "wasted time" if it never gets used

[uneven path]

All depends on if you're running everything at 100% efficiency and using overflow splitters to sink excess production.

[dense violet]

only if you care about it. often not a thing while you're going up the tiers unless you're sinking everything

[stoic salmon]

is there a way to make it constantly day time without disabling achievements

[wet moon]

yeah, I usually just do the math and build out the whole chain perfectly, but then if the final output is full, which is usually, the whole chain fills up and stops too

[dense violet]

mods

[dense lodge]

with particle accelerators or no overfill filters no but if you have an efficient factory then yes

[dense violet]

but I really wouldn't mess around with mods going through the tiers the first time

[rigid wedge]

I have a ton of random stuff alö around the map and idk what it’s even doing

[uneven path]

That's where smart splitters set to overflow to awesome sinks come into play

[dense lodge]

im not sure if mods disable it or not but you could try that

[wet moon]

still yet to unlock smart splitters i think

will do that when i get there

[rigid wedge]

I always build the first half of a factory super clean and perfect, then I get a lil frustrated with some wiring or anything and it gets a bit messy and the last 20% are absolute chaos

[dense lodge]

smart splitters top 3 things oat

[uneven path]

They're excellent, highly recommend them

[stoic salmon]

im pretty sure it does disable with mods

[dense lodge]

yeah i could have guessed

you can try turning your brightness higher at night i guess

[wet moon]

how many tickets do I even need, already got like 150 or something like that so i dont know what else to actually get, not much else that looks good in the shop

I really have no use for all the half pipe ramps and customisations so🤷‍♂️

[stoic salmon]

just get everything

[dense violet]

enough to get what you want

[uneven path]

You don't "need" anything from the shop really

[dense violet]

we can't tell you what you want

[rigid wedge]

I use them to buy stuff before making it

[wet moon]

the shop cart is a must buy

[dense lodge]

i just bought those first and then medical inhalers as its cheap compared to other things

i recommend getting every 1 time purchase first

[unkempt blade]

except factory carts

[uneven path]

The most important part of the shop is the sweet, sweet validation 🪙

[unkempt blade]

spoken like someone who has never experienced the incredible joy of a factory cart skatepark

[wet moon]

haha maybe thats a good point

il spend some time building one :D

[dense lodge]

i just made a parkour thing since i spend 95% of my playtime just running around anyways

[strong pilot]

help, i want to delete a train but my game crashes when sed train is deleted

[dense violet]

new update is doing that in 1.2 I think

[strong pilot]

iv sent the train to the goolag

[glass turtle]

Iron plate production is up

Should be 720

[winged root]

It’s quite therapeutic turning off your brain and placing 100+ fuel generators

It’s like placing the smelters for alumina but longer

[coarse path]

from crashing when i delete trains, to crashing while jsut playing the game

to having difficulty starting the game up

come on man

when is it getting patched i cant play like this

[dense violet]

it's experimental - this is one of those things you have to risk

one of the many reasons I don't do exp

[unborn gyro]

bug fics dlc for 5 bucks when?

[bitter lodge]

oh that is actually a really cool design :> fitting 12 pipes is amazing as well

[night umbra]

how we doing today chat ?

[mint cradle]

Yesss!!! The factory works

Automated wiring being produced

[night umbra]

good job

[mint cradle]

boutta reach phase 3

[night umbra]

nice enjoy nuclear power and aluminium !

[brave thorn]

(hosted locally on experimental) whats experimental?

is it related to an update that didn't come yet?

[glass turtle]

Huh. My throughput meter fluctuates between 752 and 748 all the time for iron plates. Its really 750.

10 coated iron plate assemblers

[rigid wedge]

Yes. It’s the next update and you can go there and try it

[mint cradle]

I did it!

Oil time

This totally is not intimidating

Imma start actually making buildings for all my factories

[bitter lodge]

big thing is handling by product here

if a machine makes two things, and one of those things is not being consumed (Via crafting/automating or being sinked) the machine will not produce the other outcome either.

[mint cradle]

Wow

What do you recommend me unlock first?

[bitter lodge]

oil production in general.

[mint cradle]

Alright

[bitter lodge]

Start automating plastic and rubber. You can make like 100/min for plastic and rubber off like one or two oil nodes.
Then if possible try to get the mk2 pipez asap @-@

[mint cradle]

Oki

Idk if I should start decorating my factories yet ngl

[bitter lodge]

your choice

[night umbra]

do that when u get bored of automatization or just wanna chill but finishing automatizations is the main goal so i would say not yet but ur choice

[ornate saffron]

You figure out your rail ?

[bitter lodge]

it was a short rail honestly

but ya it worked out fine.

[ornate saffron]

Saw you talking about as i was going to bed.

[bitter lodge]

ya now I am working on figuring out this alum factory-

[earnest condor]

@errant sonnet how do your mk6 belts not burn your eyes if you have their secondary set to WHITE like that? 😭

[errant sonnet]

I´m absolutely fine with that

[earnest condor]

Do you use Discord in Light Mode?

[leaden turret]

-# people who use light mode out of choice rather than necessity are like people who [redacted]

[white dawn]

I implemented theming in some software I was maintaining specifically so I could add a light mode to it. :)

[worn oar]

You disgust me.

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

[high kiln]

should i do anything with the tractor?

[worn oar]

I like to use it for coal transport

But it's not necessary to beat the game

[high kiln]

hm i waa thinking of doing that from the pure coal node

but i dont really need coal rn for stuff other than gens

i think i will need it for steel tho right?

[worn oar]

Haha you will

[bitter lodge]

before you make steel

[high kiln]

cant i just build near the resource node then?

[bitter lodge]

try to get solid steel recipe

[high kiln]

with foundations

[high kiln]

how

[worn oar]

You sure can

[bitter lodge]

scan harddrives in the MAM

[worn oar]

Build basic steel before you go hard drive hunting. This is something advanced players do because they want to prematurely optimize.

[high kiln]

mmm dont got any of them rn

450 mw energy yum yum

[bitter lodge]

normal steel recipe is 3 iron 3 coal to 3 steel
solid is 2 iron 2 coal for 3 steel.
you literally get that small extra for your production

Steel becomes really costly for all the things you need it for in phase 2 SE parts.

[worn oar]

And if you just built the steel anyway instead of hard drive hunting it would be producing all that extra time

[cold berry]

Steel makes that hard because you need coal and iron raw

[errant sonnet]

Nope

[cold berry]

Oh other people saying that

I'm dumb I'm tired I just woke up ahhh

[rigid wedge]

I pick recipes based on what convenient with the stuff I have around. I’m close to finishing the game and barely used anything on the map

[glass turtle]

Oh wow. Gonna need 16 refineries for my 240 copper ore

[white dawn]

Welcome to Why Some People Hate Pure Copper™. :)

[unkempt blade]

make a blueprint and use autoconnect, you'll thank yourself during setup

the pure recipes are a lot easier to do at large scales if you use the BPs

[unique hazel]

guys im very new to this game i got some questions

[white dawn]

1. Yes
2. Four
3. Only sometimes
4. Yes

[lone crag]

Im new to the game and just got 5 hard drives, are there any recipes I should focus on? I just finished T2 and T3.

[unique hazel]

does braking builds give you all the matirials back or only some . can you move buildings isntead of having to brake and replace

[white dawn]

Nah, just get 'em all. There are more hard drives on the map than you can use, and all alt recipes are at least situationally useful. They're about giving you options while building

[lone crag]

ah nice thanks!

[white dawn]

Yes, you get back 100% of your material when you dismantle anything -- you'll never lose anything

That includes any material "stored" inside the machines at the time

[unique hazel]

okat thank you

[white dawn]

You can also dismantle your HUB and Space Elevator at any time, to relocate those, without losing progress

[unique hazel]

i know a little about this game since but ive played industiralist on roblox

does this game have perfect ratios ?

[white dawn]

One tiny bit of advice, though: IMO, don't spend too much time dismantling and rebuilding. It's a huge map, with a ton of resources! You can always just build a new factory instead of rebuilding an old one. :)

(obviously the process of building a factory might involve dismantling stuff a bunch until you get things right, of course)

[white dawn]

Not sure what you mean by that, but the recipes are reliable. If it says you need 1 of X + 2 of Y to make 3 of Z, then that's what it'll take.

[unique hazel]

i mean by like to optomise a factory

[dense violet]

whatever you might use in your next factory mostly 🙂

[unique hazel]

like having spreadsheets of how many machines need to make the most optomised ammouts for such and such

[white dawn]

If you mean, like, "this miner fits perfectly into 4 of these Constructors," -- that's often the case in the early game, but those kinds of ratios will get more and more complex as you go. You'll eventually learn to embrace decimals. You'll have access to underclock/oveclock machines so you can make any material rate work "perfectly."

[unique hazel]

okay so theres perfect ratios

[dense violet]

clocking completely makes ratios irrelevant

[white dawn]

Yeah, definitely don't bother trying to think in terms of "ratios" IMO. Spreadsheets like that are almost certainly a waste of time

[unique hazel]

ohh okok

[white dawn]

Especially with alt recipes providing hundreds of ways to make the later-game parts, it's not worth it. Just solve each factory as you go. :)

[unique hazel]

makes sence thanks for help

[bitter lodge]

I went off that alum pic you sent. I think I finally get it.

I have 3 refineries, pump water into only the first one.
The 3 after that, are providing recycled water to the next 2. So ya. I only got to pipe in a fresh 500.

yes 500, cause I overclocked everything to 250. except the last ones aren't 50, they are 125.

[open ruin]

is it safe to play experimental on an already made save or no

[tall lantern]

as safe as playing it fresh, just make sure to back up your saves and blueprints in case you need to revert

[open ruin]

alrightt thank you

[high kiln]

ahhh oke

[cold berry]

I usually just truck the coal in, build the steel mill on the iron node.

Except for the ||northwest beach at the top of the map||

That's got coal and iron real close

You gotta move the coal up a hill, but totally reasonable to conveyor belt it

At that distance (I still truck personally for aesthetic reasons, but even then, short distance from coal to iron)

It's even got extra coal to make a power plant with IMO

Or maybe a munitions factory. But then you gotta truck in sulfur too

(although trucking in sulfur is still a good idea for the concentrated coal strat for power)

---

Someone keeps trying and failing to spam a profile I think?

[white anvil]

is there a way to trip power? like i want to trip a certaint plant so it stops working. (nuclear power plant) i want to test something else but i cant since the power plant is online and they continually produce more power than i can use

[bitter lodge]

place down your highest consuming machine, hand feed it resources so its consuming power.

rinse and repeat how ever many times you need to

make a massive smelter BP. manifold system connected to it. Belt in some raw resource into the bp.

There ya go, one BP. 40 smelters all max overclock is bound to consume some power.

[dense violet]

connect your working grid to a grid that's already tripped

it auto trips any ongoing grid

[wet moon]

how do I actually get enough plastics and rubber to let my things produce properly?? I have 480 Crude oil input, and that makes 320 fuel and 240 polymer resin, which i then turn into 4MW of power and 40 plastic and 60 rubber. all per min.

On the other hand i need 2-300 plastic and rubber per min to make a single adaptive control unit per minute and 2 modular engine per min

[bitter lodge]

should add a buffer prior to my refineries ?

Like a fluid buffer for water?

[bitter lodge]

simple answer- make more.

Tap another oil node and expand previous factory

[honest ferry]

Is there a dynamic info of current produce/consume rate like factorio?

[bitter lodge]

what-

[wet moon]

well, i cant find any, I got the ones at the beach but my scanner doesnt hit any more nodes

[bitter lodge]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map#4.75;-77329;51891|realisticLayer|;bauxiteNormal;bauxitePure;bauxiteImpure;limestoneImpure;limestoneNormal;limestonePure

you can use this website to see the whole map, and filter what you want to see pretty easily

[winged root]

Finally up to 72Gw hell yeah, only took 12 hours

Won’t be needing to upscale till the next phase

[dense violet]

make more

[dense violet]

no

[dense violet]

no, as your production rates don't change.

[dense violet]

run around some more 🙂

[bitter lodge]

I put myself into a logistical hell

[dense violet]

how?

[bitter lodge]

each set of my refineries need 1250 baux. at most my belts can handle is 1200

[dense violet]

that website is a 100% exploration spoiler as a warning btw

[rough crest]

its not that bad

[bitter lodge]

No, I don't want to overclock or underclock my current refineries

[dense violet]

use multiple belts

[bitter lodge]

so now i gotta figure how to manifold, split, and merge weird ass belts.

[dense violet]

just process each belt independently with their own constructors

[wet moon]

Add a MK1 belt next to it :D

[stable anchor]

two belts with 625?

[dense violet]

hell , you could jsut feed every refinery to their own sets of constructors

[bitter lodge]

what

[dense violet]

each refinery makes scrap right?

and all that scrap just gets processed into ingots right?

[bitter lodge]

I have 3 refineries that require 1250 baux to make sloppy alumina

[dense violet]

... why?

[bitter lodge]

what do you mean why?

[dense violet]

just make sets of refineries to process each belt of ore

on it's own. Why are you linking up multiple nodes

[bitter lodge]

I am importing 8000k baux

I have several belts of 1200 baux.

[wet moon]

ah thanks mate, i think il hold off a little for now, the truck is still too fun to drive around to just bypass all that

[bitter lodge]

and I clearly fucked up and didn't realize each set of 3 refineries would require a little extra of 50.

[dense violet]

that's my opinion of it 🙂

[bitter lodge]

Which is more than what my belt can handle

[dense violet]

they don't
clock them differently

you can design them to need 1200

[bitter lodge]

Clocking them differently is not happening.

I have them set up in such a way it looks really pretty.

[wet moon]

honeslty I think the explorer is such a terrible vehicle, it just sucks so much, Im absolutely certain that in practice its slower than the truck in all situations

[dense violet]

ok well I'm going to leave you to the many many hells of your own making because this seems to be a daily situation you put yourself KNOWINGLY in and then refuse to not screw yourself , good luck

[bitter lodge]

ya. cause I fail to plan 20+ steps.

the old alum factory was just beyond fucked.

This one is a lot more neater and better planned out.

[dense violet]

it's just not useful for exploring.
blade runners, zip line, jet pack, all great for that

as a car its fine for anywhere that have vaguely road like terrain

[wet moon]

well, zipline assumes you already built the path lol, regardless i think its a really cool tool that is made too impractical by powerlines always being perpendicular to where you wanna go for some reason

it is a good way to get a speed boost and then travel fast with jetpack though

[dense violet]

nah it's great for exploring because you can overcome basically any vertical obstacle

pre built lines are more for getting around between places you frequently go

[tribal aurora]

Does Rocket Fuel need Pumps? I notice it looks like a gas in the pipes.

[dense violet]

not for headlift

[bitter crow]

can i use fuel for my drones, and whats the con for doing so?

[dense violet]

yes and... none?

works fine

[bitter crow]

right

[unique hazel]

right ive tried to find it myself how do i fly in this game

ive seen videos

how do i fly

[river ingot]

phase 2
Jetpack
Phase 3
Hover pack

[gloomy pollen]

What would be kind of cool is if coffee stained put like a tab in the main menu, which led to a kind of community page that is sharing blueprints for stuff. I know there’s websites and mods that add blueprints but something in game would be kind of cool to just browse and use

[unique hazel]

thank youy

[river ingot]

That then comes with the risk of all UGC, people are terrible people and will try and post not helpful offensive things that coffee stain will have to moderate

[unique hazel]

bro why did i pick such a uneven location to build stg this game hates me

[river ingot]

Just move lol

[leaden turret]

build up, build flat

[unique hazel]

wdym build up

so build high in skythen make platform ?

[river ingot]

literally build up
Make factory tall

[leaden turret]

don't have to be high in the sky, just up enough to be flat.

then add more floors as needed.

[leaden turret]

in-game community blueprints browser would be useless without mechanism to securely download and use said blueprints.

[winged root]

480 crude, hmmm someone doesn’t power shard their crude

[unique hazel]

ohhh but i want everything neet 🙁

[river ingot]

You can always build walls down so it connects to the ground ok
Or build up from 1 bit of land and then extend over to raise up terrain creating a bridge over almost

Or move to a flatter area

[unique hazel]

how do you get rid of stuff that you dont need

[bitter lodge]

sink

[unique hazel]

okok ty

[strange vortex]

I just beated satisfactory... Ts so peak

[west ingot]

Vertical is something I hadn't even started working on yet

[strange vortex]

Shoudl I beat it agian?

[hearty flame]

yes

[strange vortex]

And get every achigment?

[white dawn]

So long as you're not feeling burnt out, sure! Or keep going in a more "sandbox" mode

Personally I tend to need a bit of a break in-between runs

[ivory bluff]

It's really interesting to examine one's experience:

• The early-game with energy shenanigans (that I completely misundertood - now it's wayyyy better) ;
• Learning that the AWESOME shop has cool stuff in it and make use of them;
• Learning the use of power cells, overclocking but also underclocking, which is neat;
• Learning the recipes, ratios, etc;
• Slowly but surely learning how to build vertically (still need more tools to really make it interesting).

Oh, and what seems obvious now but wasn't before: get on a high point and build from there.

[strange vortex]

On what starter biome shoudl i play now?

[white dawn]

None! Go start in Red Bamboo Forest

[glass turtle]

200 meters under the map

😄

[strange vortex]

I have 39/44 achievements ._.

[unique hazel]

how do i survive in the caves with the green gass

[thorny arch]

Im stuck in my hypertube 😭

[white dawn]

You unlock a gasmask at some point

That or just tank it with inhalers. :)

[next ivy]

or nobelisks

[fiery pewter]

Try rejoining

[unique hazel]

im stuck in a reveine

in deep hole how do i get out

[strange vortex]

After beating Satisfactory for the first time. I'm still newbie?

[unique hazel]

you can beat it ?

[fiery pewter]

Either storage bins for ladder or respawn button

[jovial beacon]

chat im theory crafting factories in my head and im realizing i might be putting together far larger numbers than i need for late game, whats a ideal heavy modular frame/m i should shoot for?

[unique hazel]

ok i need to get my dead bins tho

is there a way to remove you loosing your loot when dying

[jovial beacon]

yes in settings

[fiery pewter]

Keep inventory settings

[unique hazel]

OMG THANK GOT

[jovial beacon]

i think its under gameplay settings

[strange vortex]

What? I dont understand. Every game can be beaten

[unique hazel]

thought it was a sandbox

[jovial beacon]

yes

people largely mean finishing the space elevator when they say beat the game

but few do that and stop playing , you can always do something

[wet moon]

good point, sometimes i forget power shards exist

[hexed phoenix]

You could call the game "beat" when you've finished Space Elevator Phase 5..

But it would somewhat be something like the same as beating Dragon in Minecraft.. The game is "beat" but you can still continue afterwards :)

[jovial beacon]

gta is by definition a sandbox but it can still be "beat"

[hollow sparrow]

yoo

[hexed phoenix]

But the goal of the game is something you can ultimately decide.. It could be obtaining 100GW of Power purely from Biomass Burner if thats what you'd love to do :D

[winged root]

I would gladly watch someone do this

[fiery pewter]

Without overclocking, that amounts to 3.334 Biomass Burners

[hexed phoenix]

Yeah you're right.. Rookie numbers :D

[fiery pewter]

Let's try 1TW

[glossy scarab]

Is it possible to generate one petawatt (1000 Terra watts [1000000 giggawatts]) in satisfactory?

[normal orbit]

vanilla no, mods or cheats, yes

[jovial beacon]

my goal is to put every map node to max belt threshold, and to max out the awesome sink at 12 million points a second

[glossy scarab]

What about a thousand petawatts?

[hexed phoenix]

I'm not sure their is enough foilage on map, to have idle Biomass Burners being ready to deliver the power..

Alternative you could have batteries ready to deliver 1 PT of power - but it probably take a minute or two to charge up :D

But permanent power probably not

[normal orbit]

cheat in more somersloops and you can have infinite power

[glossy scarab]

Will the devs ever make a deconstructer?

Or would it now work because of somersloops

Since that would be dupeing materials I guess

[next ivy]

go the factorio route and just have it give you less material than it took to make the item

[unkempt blade]

the sink already exists for that

[next ivy]

anything less than 50% return rate

[fiery pewter]

When would you ever need to deconstruct

[glossy scarab]

If I make too much of an unneeded item and want to get my materials back instead of wasting them

[robust brook]

Y’all think they will ever add new planets for you to colonize

[jovial beacon]

materials are not finite and automated so wouldnt the only use case for this be when you hand craft?

[glossy scarab]

Yes

[unkempt blade]

nodes never run out, just give it more time

[jovial beacon]

that or randomly generated worlds or dlc maps would be so cool

[tall lantern]

unlikely

given how long this world took them to make

[glossy scarab]

Guys when is Satisfactory 2 dropping?

[robust brook]

I really hope they either do new continents for you to use ships to transport stuff between or new planets for you to use space vessels to traverse

[robust brook]

They could make it dlc

[unkempt blade]

tomorrow

[glossy scarab]

Great

[tall lantern]

that wouldn't change the amount of time it'd take

[glossy scarab]

They will add more doggos

[jovial beacon]

question for you guys

[glossy scarab]

That would be enough

[robust brook]

I’d pay like 25$ for a new map even if there was like only a few new building

[jovial beacon]

i sometimes see on reddit or tt, people making nice clean uniform buildings for thier factories

is that like the norm or does everyone have giant floating platforms? 😭

[glossy scarab]

Depends

[whole robin]

30,000 per min should be enough to get you to the last phase

[tall lantern]

personal preference

[robust brook]

Platforms

[glossy scarab]

I don’t like all that space underneath

[tall lantern]

add more foundations under then

[glossy scarab]

It feels unutilized

[tall lantern]

the map's big, don't worry about space

[glossy scarab]

Still tho

[tall lantern]

yeah, still

[glossy scarab]

Is it normal to place tons of nobolisks across my factory in case I ever need to self destruct everything?

[green fiber]

not like they will do much

[glossy scarab]

What if a whale giraffe thing gets in and breaks containment

[bitter lodge]

why the hell can't I get refineries to 100% when it comes to baux automation? Like the refineries are set to not consume any less/more then the recycled water they are given. Yet these refineries bottle neck themselves anyway

[green fiber]

did you merge the water

freshwater and byproduct

[bitter lodge]

No.

I can show what I did

[green fiber]

so its seperated

and (some) of the alumina refineries only get byproduct water

[wise junco]

Show us in #math-and-meta i can try to help out real quick too

[jovial beacon]

are you accounting for sloshing and byproducts?

[unique hazel]

is there any better manual mining tools ? for ores

[tall lantern]

manual? no, punch them

[unique hazel]

okok

[normal orbit]

the whole point of the game is kinda to not mine manually :p

[tall lantern]

you can throw down a few portable miners, though that's not really manual (though also not really automated either)

but useful in the super super early game

[faint willow]

#screenshots message

Should've recorded this when it wasn't pitch black and the dead of night but you know what? Still proud of how this turned out.

[winged root]

More and more I see clipping builds with underground smelters, want to try them, and especially the train tunnels through mountains

[earnest condor]

🤢

🖇️

[glossy scarab]

That’s how you lag your game

[jovial beacon]

speaking of

is it normal to run several different closed train networks between factories or is it more common to make interconnecting railway systems?

[glossy scarab]

Intersection

For me at least

[winged root]

Hey it’s not like you can bore a hole into a mountain so having an enclosed tunnel int one end out the other is great

[gleaming wasp]

is there anything wrong with splitting one conveyor into three separate manifolds?

[glossy scarab]

Not really

[hollow sparrow]

no

[glossy scarab]

What mark conveyer?

[gleaming wasp]

4

[glossy scarab]

Then it’s fine

Just make sure the numbers make sense

[jovial beacon]

only if your overall throughput doesnt meet the needs of the machines you want to split them between

[gleaming wasp]

but it's moving 360 total

[jovial beacon]

so 120 per line

[gleaming wasp]

wait

uh oh

[jovial beacon]

if your goal is efficiency just adjust the number of machines and belts to match your throughput and you wont have any overflow

[gleaming wasp]

i see the issue

i missed a number and it's acc moving 765 items a minute

[glossy scarab]

Bruh

[faint willow]

What's a good number for coal power? Thinking about finding a tileable setup and getting that started. 8 extractors, an overclocked level 2 coal miner... what else?

Trying to get the stuff together.

[glossy scarab]

3 GW will last u for awhile

[gleaming wasp]

yeah sorry just being thick

[faint willow]

How many gens is that, 30?

Can't sloop my coal gens yet

[gleaming wasp]

to get to phase 4 you're gonna need about 5,000,000 MW of power so get building

[glossy scarab]

Do 24 gen’s to start out

You can always expand

[gleaming wasp]

neither can i

bc you can't sloop power producers

[faint willow]

Will 8 extractors handle all 24?

[glossy scarab]

Prob

Impure?

Wait

Nvm

[gleaming wasp]

you'll need 9 water extractors for 24 gens

[glossy scarab]

I’m a little dummy

[gleaming wasp]

exactly 9

be thankful that satis gives you nice, easy integers that you can easily multiply and divide to fit your needs

it won't last

[jovial beacon]

a pure node at 480 throughput can handle 32 gens

oh unless you meant water idk what im thinking

[glossy scarab]

Yeah that’s what I thought

I’ll see myself out

[faint willow]

I'm in Grassy, the only lake I found nearby with coal is 4 normal nodes

[jovial beacon]

i think its 3 extractors at 75% for every 4 or something along those lihnes right

[restive umbra]

5 Tw?!?!

[rigid wedge]

3 extractors for 8 coal gens

[rigid wedge]

u dont

[restive umbra]

I certainly didn’t need 5 TW….

[rigid wedge]

im crafting the parts for t4 rn and im using 11k mw

oh which like 2k is from the sloped assemblers and manufacturers making the space parts xD

[unkempt blade]

I have a lot of kilomegawatts too

[glossy scarab]

https://youtu.be/-krHu1bYOvc?si=pimS9MLegJslMLAY

[gleaming wasp]

are there any alt recipies that are seen as better by a large portion of the community? if so, which ones?

[warped whale]

Anything that reduces screws or makes them easier to make, as well as pure minerals (add water to ore) will get mentioned all the time

[green fiber]

probably diluted fuel or heavy oil residue because of oil efficiency

[cursive crane]

^that being said, there are some that are more widely preferred, but for the most part alot of the alts are just made for certain situations and have different negatives/positives.
the pures are good for resource efficiency cause water is easy to get and you nearly double the iron you put in, but takes a lot of power and space for example. Some may take less power overall but need more machines/space. it depends.

[gleaming wasp]

i was told leached/tempered were better

[cursive crane]

[personal opinion that was wrong, because power and space are the two things in this game you should never be short on, much better to practically double the iron with the sacrifice of those and some piping]

[gleaming wasp]

i am not worried at all about power or space. i understand that my only limiting factor is the amount of ores i can get, so i am optimizing those

[cursive crane]

then pure recipes are for you.

second mcgalleons comment though, diluted fuel and HOR are awesome power generator recipes

[gleaming wasp]

the blender diluted fuel is better though, right?

you don't have to deal with packagers, as opposed to their refinery counterpart

[rough crest]

could anyone point me on a resource that shows how to correctly make a loop to recycle resources? (making encased uranium cells so it's sulfuric acid but it could also be aluminum and water that kind of stuff)

i just use valves but it's very inefficient

[elder cedar]

anyone got a heat sink setup? i need 180 p/m

[tall plover]

pro tip: build alot of machines

[gleaming wasp]

are you sure that's enough? 180 is a lot

[tall plover]

i need 1200 per minute for my 400 biochemical sculptors/m so its not as much as that

and ill use averylot for that

[elder cedar]

trying to build 180 p/m with the calculator, need the good recipes

[astral moth]

I think I've asked this before but is this game like finished in terms of progression? Because for as long as I've been here all the updates seem more QOL focused

[unique hazel]

my power keeps going out and i have fuel

thew fuse keeps blowing idk why

[unique vortex]

Is there a way to figure out if my belt or conveyor lift is at max throughput? It looks kinda full, but is there a way to read the throughput?

[bitter lodge]

converyor throughput

awesome shop item. Place it on a belt, that is going into awesome sink

[jovial beacon]

did you try the thoughput monitor?

[astral moth]

So fuses usually blow if your energy demand exceeds that of your power source. You can see the graph if you right click power nodes

[unique vortex]

erm sorry I dont know what that is

[elder cedar]

yo azana, you got a heat sink factory or nah?

[unique vortex]

oh let me go look for that, didnt know it was there in the shop

[jovial beacon]

buy it in the awesome sink

[astral moth]

Does this measure the rate of items across a conveyor or something?

[bitter lodge]

yup

[gleaming wasp]

exactly that

[jovial beacon]

it displays how many items are passing through a belt per minute

[astral moth]

Thanks

[unique vortex]

sweet tyty! Now the next related question 🙂 I'm at tier 4, what is the best way to generate tickets for the shop

[bitter lodge]

alien protein is always the best option. sloop a constructor.
or produce the most complex thing you can, and sink that

[gleaming wasp]

you don't have to actively try, just have an overflow splitter on everything and run it into a sink

[jovial beacon]

honestly if you run a railway station for all items towards a central storage unit run everything through smart splitters organize it and a seperate lane for dimensional depot on items of choice and have all the overflow on the end of the line run into a sink

my sink is getting a constant feed of motars, stators, rotars, modular frames and sooner or later itll get fed all the more complicated stuff

[safe sand]

I’m really liking the randomized nodes 🧑‍🍳👌

[mint cradle]

Yeah bro Ada is definitely evil

Telling me to expose myself to more Mercer spheres

[safe sand]

Yeah I kinda wish we got more, narrative-wise from her interactions with the alien intelligence

And at least some kind of unlock upon completing the story. Not trying to sound mean but giving us literally nothing is kind of a disappointment

[earnest condor]

Game was finished in 1.0 for progression.
So yes, everything is just QoL-ish at this point.

[safe sand]

That makes sense. Just a bummer after building it up for several years in EA

I had hopes early on that we’d get something interesting and on the level of Subnautica‘s narrative

Back when the pioneer was called Becky

[earnest condor]

The game being finished... is a bummer?

[green fiber]

the story was gutted.
could have been cooler

but thats not the SF we have now

[mint cradle]

yo can i get some help choosing some alt recipes

rn i got either iron wire or steel rotor, recucled rubber or pure iron ingot, recycled plastic or coke steel ingot and lastly coppoer rotor and coated cable

[earnest condor]

There is no wrong answer.
Pick what you, personally feel you might use the most in the short term.

You will unlock ALL recipes eventually.

[elder cedar]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=HnyDECIAlJZO98BoUJ1z
good or nah?

[earnest condor]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

[mint cradle]

i hear pure ingot is pretty good

[earnest condor]

You should listen to less people 😄

[mint cradle]

is it buns 😭

oh nvm its the iron alloy thats the good one

i just got that from scanning this hardrive

either that or fused quickwire which seems kinda meh

[earnest condor]

It's not "buns" per se.
It is just the lowest conversion rate of any Iron Ingot alt.
And it comes out in 13s, which is a weird number to work with compared to the 10 or 15 the others work in.

[whole ermine]

why are items on my belts blurry?

[green fiber]

upscaling / AA?

[earnest condor]

Because belt speed go brrrr?

[safe sand]

Lots of good choices. The recycled ones play nicely with the heavy oil residue alt. Can get a lot more rubber/plastic from less oil at the cost of power

[safe sand]

Probably upscaling under graphics settings

[mint cradle]

this is the good one right

[earnest condor]

Good is a point of view, Anakin 😛

[mint cradle]

no but it seems good

[earnest condor]

Alloy has the second-highest conversion rate, behind Basic.
I personally find Alloy very useful because there are a number of iron spots that have a single copper node which I would otherwise have just ignored.

That recipe allows me to use said copper node to boost production.

[safe sand]

They’re both good. Pure uses more power but I like it more late game when power is less of a concern. Also dialing down your clock speed on things to just what you need helps. Especially since they changed clock speed:power from linear to curved

[mint cradle]

is basic another recipe? cause i just got steel ingots only in the foundry

[rancid verge]

does someone want to play satisfactory with me

[earnest condor]

Basic Iron is Limestone + Ore = Ingot the way that Alloy is Copper + Ore = Ingot.

[mint cradle]

should i reroll any of these options

[safe sand]

Yep the “basic” recipes use some limestone + ore

They’re p sweet

[earnest condor]

Pure is the one iron alt I would almost never use, personally.
Doesn't make it bad though.

[mint cradle]

should i reroll recycled plastic and coke steel ingot?

[earnest condor]

If you want "my opinion" on the 4 drives you have:

• Iron Wire
• Reroll
• Reroll
• Copper Rotor

[safe sand]

If you’re feeling spicy. Like they said you’ll eventually get them all anyway. No need to fear missing out

[mint cradle]

its 5 now the last one being fused quickwire and iron alloy ingot

[earnest condor]

Take Alloy.

[mint cradle]

i just wanna know what will help me rn as i just got to phase 3

[mint cradle]

ok

caterium wire and wet concrete after first reroll

[earnest condor]

Cat Wire.

[mint cradle]

second reroll rubber concret and insulated crystal ossicliater

[earnest condor]

Insulated.

[mint cradle]

imma leave them in there while the others scan to reduce the outcome pool

[safe sand]

Yeah wet concrete isn’t important until tier 7

[mint cradle]

got 3 more drives

that recipe seems so good

[earnest condor]

I never use that one either 😄

[mint cradle]

80 per min is nuts

steel screws are nuts ngl made my versatile framwork factory 10x easier

[earnest condor]

Rubber Concrete all the way.

[mint cradle]

pretty sure i already have the 2.5 k needed

[safe sand]

Dude, I love it. It keeps water from building up in aluminum lines if you use an overflow pipe

[earnest condor]

Or just recycle your water? Simple.

[mint cradle]

once i get oil power im dismantiling my coal power

since its in the way of my automated wiring factory

i needa make a rotor factory too

[safe sand]

Of course but i feel it makes it easier to hit 100% efficiency if you add in a wet concrete overflow

[mint cradle]

so far ive got modular frames 12 per min, 10 framework. 10 auto wire, and 10 smart plating

[earnest condor]

?

[mint cradle]

next imma do rotors then encased beams

[earnest condor]

If exact water being used, how ever have overflow?

[unique vortex]

My rotor and reinforced steel plate machines are using a feed of a single line of MK3 belt of screws (so 270 split into two lines of about 135 each), and my rotor production is absymally slow. Should I have a dedicated line of machines producing screws for my rotors? I am trying not to... my design is a multi story building with parts below feeding machines above (so the factory gets more complex parts the higher you go). My screws are made in a manifold model, and nicely filling out a MK3 belt, but it looks like a single MK3 belt isnt enough

Should I have two rows of screw machines?

[mint cradle]

it should be enough tho if your recieiving the 270

[earnest condor]

Rotors work "cleanest" when you just attach their Screw Constructor directly to them.

Consider the Assembler + Constructor to be a single building, where your inputs are just the other half of Rotor + Steel Beam.

[safe sand]

Check the efficiency (%) readout on your machines at each step in your process. That’ll tell you what’s under running

[mint cradle]

ok this new hard drive is plastic ai limiter or automated speed wiring

[earnest condor]

Are you planning to do sushi the way I do it?

[unique vortex]

I am receiving 270, 130 of which goes to the rotor machine line, I have two rotor machines receiving this 130 line, but they idle as they wait for more

[mint cradle]

like all over the place or long lines

[unique vortex]

100% on my screws

[mint cradle]

double check all your lines are mk3 and everything is connected sometimes something slips by and thats what causes it

[earnest condor]

Like everything that can be combined and sushi is combined and sushied. Or do you prefer to keep your belts to a single item?

[unique vortex]

Oh I see, so if I have 4 rotor machines I need 4 screw machines attached to them?

[mint cradle]

im having a brain fart

[earnest condor]

It keeps it simpler if you do it that way, let me grab a photo.

[earnest condor]

One sec.

[safe sand]

Led you’re gonna have to pick them yourself at some point. If you want to fret about what’s optimal there are tier lists on Reddit that optimize for either materials or time/effort

[earnest condor]

Do you know what I mean by sushi?

[unique vortex]

Ah I see the issue I guess- my half filled MK3 belt at 130/min can only support 1.3 rotor machines as rotor making assemblers need 100 screws/min each

[mint cradle]

not really

[restive umbra]

Sushi belts are when you have multiple different parts on one belt

[earnest condor]

Then "reroll" is my answer 😄

[restive umbra]

e.g rotors and stators on the same belt for motors

[mint cradle]

lowk hate that i like one when line has its specific on it

except for when sinking thats fine

[restive umbra]

it’s a fun challenge

[mint cradle]

its satisfying that way idk if thats the best way tho]

[earnest condor]

If you sushi the way I do, to the point smart splitters are the commonplace and regular splitters are a rare unicorn -- Plastic AIL is amazing.
If you don't 🤷‍♂️

[mint cradle]

can i see a photo of your factories

[earnest condor]

#design-and-architecture

I can post more, one sec.

[safe sand]

Have you used smart splitters yet?

[mint cradle]

some

but only for overflow and sinking

i dig the sushi ngl seems cleaner

i change my mind i wanna do sushi

[unique vortex]

Got the jetpack and its umm a bit underwhelming, I was so looking forward to it! I only have solid bio fuel right now, should I store it away and use my parachute instead until I get better fuel?

[night umbra]

hi people hows everyone doing

[jolly solstice]

while you only have solid biofuel, i would not advise using the jetpack without getting a good amount of speed beforehand (e.g. by bhopping) to travel across ravines
when you get something like turbofuel, you can start using it for climbing heights too, but for now you have to stick to using both for their most fitting situations

[flint phoenix]

I hope they never remove bhopping, it makes travel much more enjoyable

[jolly solstice]

true

[earnest condor]

Solid BF is not intended to be used. It's available only on the off chance you encounter Johnny in Phase 1 or 2.
Now.. LIQUID BF -- that stuff is goated.

[gleaming wasp]

what's yall favorite item

[tall lantern]

no item in foliage

[gleaming wasp]

yeah but if there was an item in foliage, which item would you wish it could be?

[earnest condor]

Question too vague, please add more context.

[gleaming wasp]

that's the beauty of it, my friend

it can be any item

just personal preference

[earnest condor]

Then I can never provide an answer. 🤷‍♂️

[safe sand]

I wish “passive” and “retaliate” fauna settings would let me pet them the way you can the sky ray ]:

I want to be friends with a hog

[earnest condor]

Rideable Alpha Hog would have been great tbh.

[gleaming wasp]

i don't get what's being lost on you

[bitter crow]

can any fluid pass through the fron side of a valve?

the input node

[split prairie]

anyone here that uses satisfactory modeler having problems with it never stopping calculating?

[whole ermine]

is there a way to make it day all the time

[unique hazel]

huys i have an issue

how do i get my items that need to go to my elevator thing from very far away

[tall lantern]

same way you move any item over distance like that. belt, vehicles, yourself

(or move the spelevator)

[safe sand]

Like where everything goes blank? If so yes. Priority splitters/mergers usually fix it for me

[tall lantern]

dump into a DD and do the last bit yourself is a subset of yourself, but involves less travel

[unique hazel]

oh dam alr so the only way is convays alr

[tall lantern]

..that's what you took from that answer?

welp, it's valid, go for it

[unique hazel]

no i mean i swear i saw trains in some peoples videos

[tall lantern]

that would be the vehicles part

[unique hazel]

ohhhhhhhh

[tall lantern]

and not the only option

[unique hazel]

okok i get it now mb i started today

[spiral roost]

Is there a way I can collect all the hard drives, spheres, and somersloops using scim?
I need to collect them from the map, not just add them to my inventory
I want to start a new game but don't want to waste time collecting them.

[white dawn]

If it's not obvious in the SCIM interface, it's probably not currently possible

[earnest condor]

Would guess you need to add the amount to inventory and then manually delete them all from SCIM if it lets you do that?

[white dawn]

On the other hand, you could just give yourself the drives and then clear out the sites as you come across them

For spheres and drives there's more than anyone could realistically use anyway, so having "too many" hardly matters

[spiral roost]

as an option, but I thought there was a magic button "to collect everything from the map"

[earnest condor]

Not to my knowledge.

[white dawn]

For sloops you'd have to keep your edited ones and collected ones separate, if you didn't want an unfair sloop advantage

[tall lantern]

with a save loaded, rightclick -> collect

the important bit seems to be having a save actually loaded, which makes sense

for hard drives there's an "open drop-pod" option, not sure if that gives you the drive though

[spiral roost]

cant 🥲

[astral moth]

Oh, you don't think they plan to do a 2nd game? Or maybe a new map with new progression idk

[winged root]

Well it’s an option

[shrewd palm]

i hope they make some kind of dlc before working on something else

[winged root]

New planet, though the loop will probably remain the same, maybe1 new node type and a revamp of the enemy cast

[wicked yew]

Started using blueprints for my fuel powerplant and my question is how do i setup my pipes in a blueprint to work with auto-connect

[shrewd palm]

same as belts

have some kind of pole/support

i think

[tall lantern]

works for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[astral moth]

I wondered if they'd be bold enough to add a new gamemode like a DLC where your on a diff planet and have to get through 5 tiers of fresh progression

[tall lantern]

just not on drives

[tall lantern]

bold enough willing to sink enough time in after how long it took to make the first one

[shrewd palm]

if they do a dlc like that im hoping it'll be something like factorio space age

[wicked yew]

I'll try that now 😃

[earnest condor]

I mean, them making Satis 2 would not change Satis 1 being completed, no?

[astral moth]

Yeah I understand it took alot of time, but I imagine they can reapplicate alot of the current systems

[earnest condor]

That would be a second game, not a DLC.

[shrewd palm]

not really anything like a fresh start but just some new resources and maybe a couple new tech tiers, as well as some upgrades to do back on the home planet

[tropic furnace]

I might have missed it but do we have a release date for 1.2 yet

[bitter crow]

okay, question time: i have now made a battery factory, which will be used to power drones, should i use multiple drones to transport said batteries, should i use one, or should i have drones occasionally visit the battery factory to recharge?

[earnest condor]

When it is ready.

[tall lantern]

sure it'd be faster, but it's still a very manual process, and I don't think it's likely. Don't mind being proven wrong mind

[shrewd palm]

no but it'll probably be done in under 3 months

[shrewd palm]

would probably be easiest to set up a drone that goes to all of the outpost drone ports and refuels them

[astral moth]

Yeah I just wondered what direction the company would go in, because surely theres a limit to QOL features this game can recieve before they plant to work on a new project

[bitter crow]

singular, i suppose?

[shrewd palm]

once 1.3 is out im not really sure theres anything else to work on

maybe pipe mechanics but its debateable whether or not thats a real issue

[shrewd palm]

you can only have a drone go between 2 ports

[bitter crow]

oh hell yeah

[shrewd palm]

and you can have at most 2 drones on that one loop

[earnest condor]

Drones go only 1:1, but you can have multiple ports linked to one central port.

[tall lantern]

goat sim 4 duh

[wicked yew]

Yeah, that worked, thanks bud 😃

[bitter crow]

that means im forced to have a really big dock for all the drones

ts will be epic

[astral moth]

I need to finish this game acutally, I've always got distracted before completion, I'll try again this summer

[winged root]

I’ll be honest I’m on subnautica hype so I’m just thinking if we had a whole new satisfactory game but in a water world

[bitter crow]

200 batteries a minute should be PLENTY

[shrewd palm]

we can hope

[astral moth]

Or something space related, I think it'd be cool to harvest random meteorites for ore etc

Actually

I kinda wish there was a smaller map and like space efficiency of your factory designs becomes a concern

[shrewd palm]

all i want is like

[bitter crow]

the enviroment being affected by your actions sounds awesome

[astral moth]

Pollution system >>

[bitter crow]

yeah

[shrewd palm]

a tier 6 on a new planet/in space and recipes that use nuclear waste/fuel rods

[astral moth]

Eject the waste into the sun

[shrewd palm]

we have a space elevator with all the infrastructure to ||make more ships || by the end of phase 5 so why not use it

[winged root]

A pollution system will be treated as a scoreboard

You know I’m quite surprised that there isn’t a “boss” predator in any of the biomes, of course it’s a factory game first and foremost but exploring the world and fighting the “king” of a biome would be quite nice

[shrewd palm]

tbh i am very skeptical of there still being a humanity

[winged root]

Gentlemen

[shrewd palm]

there was a mega crab that made a bunch of flies like the hatchers for the gold coast but they scrapped it

[winged root]

Are there some mods that bring in new mobs

Also regarding lore better move it to the story spoilers as a precaution

[gleaming wasp]

change the calculator settings

to manual

[shrewd palm]

i think you might want experimental manual

[gleaming wasp]

you don't acc have to calculate it yourself but it does... something that fixes it

[shrewd palm]

it is a little different but once you figure it out its a lot better

[short epoch]

Has anyone found like really good fossil seeds ?

[astral moth]

Is your pfp from ultrakill?

[gleaming wasp]

why yes it is

thank you for noticing

[astral moth]

I just got that game yesterday, was convinced by a friend

[gleaming wasp]

that's an amazing friend

uk is peak

[astral moth]

It seems really cool so far, but wow is it fast paced, and some of the speedrunners I watch, it's like watching magic, I can barely tell what's going on xD