satisfactory

[bitter lodge]

can you link that part?

[stoic salmon]

cool cool ty

[lusty ferry]

wdym the calc itself?

[worn oar]

8.3333 means you need 9 machines doing slightly less than 100% of the work

Either 8 working 100% and machine 9 at 33%, or 9 underclocked to the same for slightly less power usage

[bitter lodge]

I think you need to just underlock a machine then? but if you are trying to basically do a load balance. Good luck lmao.
you are best off doing a manifold system

[lusty ferry]

well okay it is kinda manifold but the problem persists

[bitter lodge]

If you hover the part where it says you need x amount of machines. It should say 1x machine at xyz %

[thick cave]

You round

[wraith depot]

Either build 9 and underclock one to 33.33% or build 8 and overclock one to 133.33%

[worn oar]

This math still doesn't math

[wraith depot]

Ahem ahem

Ahem ahem

3:30 am for me don't judge

[lusty ferry]

to "build" more or to overclock or underclock just breaks the calculation. it is already done for me. I have 15x constructors building iron rods.

the calculation wants to send 125/min one way, and 120/min the other

125/min goes to 12.5x screw constructors (calculation already includes clocking considerations) and it perfectly works out

but to send exactly 125 iron rods OUT, I would need 8.333 constructors and that's literally impossible,

but the calculation is precise
how the devil do i do that?

[bitter lodge]

link the calc please.

I am curious to see this.

[little cobalt]

8.333 constructors just means 9 constructors with one clocked to 33.333 no?

[bitter lodge]

huh?

[lusty ferry]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=xkFbQxdtVWDslA5qKbqS

[bitter lodge]

alrighty.

[urban light]

Best place to find early game designs for max efficiency ? New to game

[bitter lodge]

So you are talking about iron rods.
125 goes to 12.5 for screws.
100 goes to 5 for rotor?

[lusty ferry]

yes

[bitter lodge]

I don't see the issue here honestly?

What tier belt do you have?

[worn oar]

As we already told you, it means a manifold of 9 underclocked to the same amount, or 8 at 100% with the 9th at 33.3333. You can use 4 decimal points of precision in machines, or type 10/3 and it does it for you.

[bitter lodge]

I imagine at least tier 3? correct?

[worn oar]

If this confuses you, please do not worry as FICSIT has alternative uses for all their pioneers. /s

[bitter lodge]

If so. You could output all 15x constructors onto a single belt line of a mk3 belt.
Then manifold that belt into the 12.5 constructors. Then the run off into the 5 assemblers?

[wraith depot]

Just use pen and paper, you will figure it out

[lusty ferry]

i understand, then whatever is rest of the machines that go the other way, which will be lacking in rods (90), I just overclock one of them. maybe i overlooked this simple thing

[bitter lodge]

I don't see where you need to underlock or overlock anything crazy?

Ya the wire, and copper ingots maybe? But even see the calculator tells you how to underlock?

[little cobalt]

looking at the link you sent, you can just manifold it all and ignore which specific machines need the rods

it will all work out as it runs

[bitter lodge]

ima end it all

clicking on the shared tab reset my tab .-.

now I gotta uncluster this spider web again.

[worn oar]

Step by step. You want to produce 125 iron rods from 9 machines. Type 125/9 into the output rate of one of them, and copy the setting. Paste to the others. Done.

I think you have overcomplicated it, or I am not understanding something about the question

[glacial trench]

I just noticed that my base is on a impure iron should I switch my location or should I look for another node and make belt form it to my base ?

[worn oar]

Gobble that impure iron up and if it's not enough, look for more

[high kiln]

guys i fell off the map with my tractor where did it go 😭 😭

[bitter lodge]

tis gone

[wraith depot]

The underworld

[bitter lodge]

forever. the void consumes all that enter.

[high kiln]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[bitter lodge]

tis a funny thing...There is so much iron around that little impure node won't really make a difference for you.

[high kiln]

my death crate 😭 😭

[worn oar]

It's still down there, waiting for its chance to rise

[glacial trench]

Didn’t know if it will bottleneck me down the line or not I’m 8hr in and just learned about the nodes tires

[wraith depot]

It will haunt you every time you open your map

[high kiln]

i had a mercer spehere bro

[bitter lodge]

doubt it will.

Plus you are gonna be moving around and making factories in different areas.

[void lance]

Anyone else doing a 100x2 Run?

[glacial trench]

Ok then didn’t know that till this point I’m doing everything blind no previous knowledge or guide just my trial and error

[bitter lodge]

best of luck.

[lusty ferry]

i`m literally trying this out right now, going to send the output of the manifold after it has passed through the "screw constructor row" and see if enough rods end up in the assembler for the rotor. i load balanced the first parts where it was easy,

and for everyone who explained thanks i understand (sort of). very new to the game. SUCK at game suck at math

[bitter lodge]

Online tools are a great a thing.

[glacial trench]

Thank you

[bitter lodge]

just remember with manifolds. You gotta be patient.

Once the machines are fully backed up, then it flows constantly. it will be slow to get to where you want it.

[glass turtle]

How come a full storage runs out when it should actually be used at exactly the same rate it is produced (after adding the consumers that then cause it to run out)?

[slender dagger]

Satisfactory keeps crashing as soon as I open the game on PC

[glass turtle]

Sure, it would drop a little bit due to the input buffers and belts but

[slender dagger]

All started happening after I tried to log into epic on my game

[wraith depot]

The storage throughputs at the rate of your belts

[lusty ferry]

thanks also someone said something interesting about 8.333 meaning 9 machines with the 9th running at 33% clock. that's really interesting way to see this and deal with uhh the floating point

[glass turtle]

Yes.

The throughput is not the question

Where is it going to?

[placid stirrup]

Wherever you sent it to

[bitter lodge]

you won't really have to worry about weird underclocking until later-

[urban light]

Where do you guys get your early game designs from?

[bitter lodge]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=PbeM8zrHZEf31DfhTWck

[glass turtle]

Which should use it at EXACTLY the rate that it is produced, not an ounce more or less. So why is an inline storage being used up?

[bitter lodge]

if you want to see a crazy factory. I am trying to tackle this monster currently.

[placid stirrup]

Because the input doesn't match the output. Either you're over consuming or under producing

[wraith depot]

If the input and output is the same the storage should be full after filling the buffer of whatever machine that's taking the output

[lusty ferry]

May God have mercy on us all. That's just overwhelming complexity

[bitter lodge]

Very much so.

Joy of the game. Make factories as simple or complex as you want.

[void lance]

Anyone doing 100 Space Parts and 2x Items NEeded Run? How are you doing the power at the start? Or you just deforesting the entire map too

[wraith depot]

Wait till you see how aluminium is made

[glass turtle]

Im making 240 iron ingots which i turn into 360 steel ingot (alt recipe) which i turn into 80 steel pipes and 60 steel beams. The iron ingot and steel ingot storages were both full with iron and steel respectively before i added steel beam and another set of steel ingot producers respectively, yet they ran dry

[lusty ferry]

the name lmao it's supposed to be f* you factory -_- anyway i'll tend to my simple motors until i get to that level

[placid stirrup]

Then you've gotta troubleshoot each stage of production to make sure you're getting the numbers you expect. If you can't find it, #1038092680493801533 is the perfect place to share photos and get folks to assist.

[bitter lodge]

I named it what I did because I went "fuck me" after seeing what the hell I was trying to accomplish.

[placid stirrup]

#off-topic-general

[silk pine]

Oh ty

[glass turtle]

ooops. I appearently forgot to set the second set of iron smelters recipe. Yeah, thatll do it

Since i was only using half of it initially i didnt notice that half of them werend producing

[placid stirrup]

Tee-hee. Won't be the last time, good on ya for catching the symptom and finding the issue

That's arguably the strongest skill in the game; it's highly unlikely you'll do everything perfectly the first time so tracing to the source is needed

[jolly plume]

anyone know how to change the items in my hotbar my 3 slot is not storage and it was conveyors idk what i did

[warped whale]

The number of times I find an idle machine in a factory I already double checked and have to locate a random mistake...

[placid stirrup]

Hover the item in the build menu and, with the desired hotbar open, click the number on your keyboard you wish to assign it to

[wraith depot]

Hover over the conveyor from the menu and press 3

[lusty ferry]

I've done a lot of load balancing, broke and rebuilt factories, racking my brains out over this game. In my first ~2 hours I was advancing, albeit "ineffectively". The thing was getting produced, but it wasn't good. And I'm still doing imperfect. Getting parts and transporting them on my character rather than using the available truck stations on my level. The game is very forgiving up to this point it seems. I'm just kinda trying to make all machines have 100% uptime but when that's not possible I just fall back to building what I can. Finishing it without perfection is definitely possible. My own save is a cursed mix of deprecated factories and one single factory which produces what I need to propel me to the next tier/phase. If I hadn't copied the coal generator setup from someone, however, I wouldn't be able to get here. Fluids were genuinely hell.

[jolly plume]

thank you both

[warped whale]

My first save was a co op where we were both new. We didnt know what we were doing and ignored numbers. It was chaos and became spaghetti hell, but we still reached the end

[lusty ferry]

yes

[serene jolt]

is there a way to see all my alt recipes?

[glass turtle]

Not specifically, no.

[placid stirrup]

Everyone who's had subsequent playthroughs has looked back at their perceived abominations, it's a completely normal process haha

[serene jolt]

ok

[placid stirrup]

I want to say SCIM has this capability, though I've never used it for that myself

[earnest condor]

Aye. Posted in #screenshots for them.

[placid stirrup]

My grassy fields P3 "factory" holds a special place in my heart, but good lord am I glad I don't have to look at that thing

[bitter lodge]

this happens every time you complete a phase

[placid stirrup]

Thanks Sev!

[bitter lodge]

you get better means of producing better things. better miners, belts, fluids, etc. Taking this game at a slow pace is the best imo.

I spent several days at a time on a mega factory. That factory is perm now. I am never breaking it down.

its just a matter of understanding that there is "perfect" or "right" way to play satisfactory. its all your own choice/world. just have fun with it.

[earnest condor]

I'm limiting myself to 1 factory per day as I progress right now.
Just set up Motor at 21ish/min.
Tomorrow I will do HMFs.
Then just need Computers and I can move to Phase 4 on this run.

[lusty ferry]

This is actually true

because of beginner my most fun is discovering bunny hop through sliding or whatever and unlocking the 140km/h achievement

[bitter lodge]

and ya as Sev said. make goals.

[lusty ferry]

that's how i do locomotion

[little cobalt]

keep in mind you can leave your less-than-optimal starter setups running and just run somewhere else to start fresh on new nodes! it's a big map, and some automation >>>> none automation

[bitter lodge]

I am making a factory that is just meant so I can make mk3 miners anytime I want.

[glass turtle]

And always remember: The number 1 rule of nuclear safety is to have fun

[bitter lodge]

Then...I am nuking my world and rebuilding every factory with mk3 miners to produce way more stuff :)

[earnest condor]

There is only one way.
And the correct way is WHATEVER THE PERSON WITH THE MOST CAPS SAYS IT IS UNTIL EVERYONE ELSE BLOCKS THEM.

😏

[placid stirrup]

Rule 2: don't worry about bringing a water bottle, there's plenty around to quench your thirst

[little cobalt]

second best part of the game fr

[lusty ferry]

but you are the administrator
who watches the watchers

[earnest condor]

Ok but... the 😏 was there on purpose...

[glass turtle]

If you doubt your architectural skills, check screenshots. I just put my first escapades into verticalising a more organised factory there.

[lusty ferry]

i habe asd my bad

[glass turtle]

You cant be doing worse than that.

Ill just keep building that stuff up until motors for now, then make some silica, then i can build elevators.

And dont need the weird slope there to walk up my factory

Which also forces it to expand ever backwards with every level

I thought when i started that would be nice to have some outside space at every level so i can put an awesomsink attached to the overflow of a smartsplitter but yeah, i kinda didnt think through just how far backwards thatll move the factory with every additional level

[placid stirrup]

It's a start! I don't doubt my architectural skills, not anymore
#design-and-architecture message

[glass turtle]

I'm extremely prone to lawnbasing in anything i play tbh

[bitter lodge]

so uh

[placid stirrup]

I'm unfamiliar with the concept

[bitter lodge]

blenders are like partially invisible for me?

[glass turtle]

Building everything just on the natural floor

outside

[pliant dust]

Hit aluminum so was gonna start of rocket fuel on my all pure node world and the spire coast omg... Im gonna be able to produce 788GW with just the resources near the spire coast

[placid stirrup]

Have some tissues nearby for when your eyes start bleeding as you place 5,765,234 generators

[hollow terrace]

What’s the best way to get coupons? I’m trying to push to 1000 to get the golden nut but I want to make sure I’m doing it in the best way possible

[pliant dust]

3153 I believe

[reef basin]

best (and only) way is to sink stuff

[placid stirrup]

Overflow siphon every factory

[floral sparrow]

Do you think 20 rotors per minute will last me a good while if I'm tier 5? I can scale up to 60 per minute with more floors in my factory. If I go higher than that then the manta ray will be sad

[reef basin]

that depends how much you build

personally I'd just build small amount for personal use and later if something needs rotors, it makes its own rotors

[placid stirrup]

I shift the perspective onto making efficient use of any node I tap. That way if you need additional rotors in the future, you have untapped nodes to choose from.

If the quantity is good for now then there's nothing to worry about at the moment

[hollow geyser]

Does anyone know with the most efficient uranium rod recipe. How many nuclear reactors you can run

[reef basin]

how do you define "efficient"?

[placid stirrup]

The math has been done several times in this server, just takes a search

[hollow geyser]

In terms of what gives you the most resource you want out of the inputs it takes

[reef basin]

most of the recipes just trade one resource for another. there's no generic "best"

[mint cradle]

I love how Ada talks through the ps5 controller

[fluid sapphire]

epic. my trains are stuck again for no reason whatsoever

[floral sparrow]

Aesthetically, where does it make sense to put vents vs. fans on walls?

[mint cradle]

About to reach phase 2

[fluid sapphire]

dont be too shocked

[thick cave]

I cast creature on the rail line

[fluid sapphire]

creatures just get a lift. blocks are free, train refuses to move, happened before too, makes no sense

#screenshots message

[thick cave]

Is the station the right way round

Also that's beautiful ngl

[fluid sapphire]

No station involved here

It works fine for 20-30 hours, then this happens

Thanks though

[thick cave]

Did you set up a timetable

[fluid sapphire]

Like I said, it works fine for 20-30 hours

[serene jolt]

You think 25 modular frames a minute is good for nuclear pasta? I’m hoping for 1 per minute. Still need to turn them into pressure conversion cubes or whatever

[fluid sapphire]

Naturally the trains have a timetable

[fluid sapphire]

Just crunch the numbers all the way to the end instead of guessing

[white dawn]

(or have a solver/calculator crunch the numbers for you. :D)

[fluid sapphire]

Yes sir, that's secretly what I really meant, I don't do my own math

[white dawn]

I'm not gonna do division, like some kind of animal.

[mint cradle]

COALLLL POWEEERRRR

Now to find coal

600 meters away

Rippp

[placid stirrup]

You could always wait for Ficsmas

As long as you're naughty before then, you should get plenty

[mint cradle]

Bro there’s like no coal near me

That 600 one was next to the void

[tall lantern]

600m is plenty near

it's not like you need the power to be made at your initial base

[placid stirrup]

Who knew immediately where in the GF they're referring to

[tall lantern]

(or anything else for that matter, expand away)

[mint cradle]

Know any good spots? For coal near water

[tall lantern]

north-northwest

[brittle finch]

Little lake by the huge forest

[placid stirrup]

Plenty. None in GF.

[tall lantern]

the bit you found is also fine though, there's water visible from there

not ideal, but hey, it'll work

[mint cradle]

Wow

So I’m cooked or what

[tall lantern]

it's a big map, don't give up just because it's not right next to your current location

[mint cradle]

I’m at the little lake

[brittle finch]

Your good bro, northish grassy fields and there’s a great place!

[tall lantern]

either

• move the coal to water
• move water to coal 🤮
• find another spot with both coal and water

north of there there's an area with both coal and water (and some iron and copper IIRC)

[brittle finch]

There’s like 2 or 3 coal nodes there right? You can make a platform in the water or on the shore

Lots of huge trees and like a waterfall or two?

[mint cradle]

Ok I found a massive lake

2 waterfalls

[tall lantern]

in a hole, sandy shore, lotsa trees, few coal nodes? sounds like the one

[mint cradle]

Might move my whole base here or just wire everything there

[tall lantern]

no need to move

[mint cradle]

It’s like 5 nodes

[tall lantern]

there's a lot of other resources you've yet to encounter, would you move each time you find a new one? 😛

[mint cradle]

True

[tall lantern]

this is your first introduction to the "expand across the map" part of the game

[mint cradle]

Yeah this place looks awesome

[tall lantern]

power's easy at least because you can just run power lines and be done with it

[mint cradle]

For coal

Nice flat sand near the coal

Time to deforest

I don’t like to chop down too many treees

[mint cradle]

What milestone would you suggest I get next?

[tall lantern]

whichever has something you'd find useful

[mint cradle]

Blueprint?

Eh probably should get steel first

[tall lantern]

if nothing in particular jumps out, doing them in order is a reasonable default

but if something looks neat or useful, and you can get it, then go for it

[mint cradle]

Probably gonna do blueprints ngl

[placid stirrup]

Don't be scared to venture out, the game lets you arm yourself for a reason 😉

[mint cradle]

Bro my game bugged out

[bitter lodge]

steel for mk3 belts.

[mint cradle]

I was placing a marker now’s there just a beam of light shooting up and I can’t remove it

[bitter lodge]

Then use the mk3 belts in your blueprints.

[mint cradle]

I just reloaded

Fine now

[severe ledge]

3 water extractors to 8 coal gens is pretty typical, right? the math doesn't really work out in a way that I understand. I'm using MK1 pipes. I have 3 sets of 3:8 plants. 2 are working fine, one will NOT keep 3 of my gens fed with water.

[jolly plume]

yo is there a quick drop bind or delete all for my inventory or is a mod needed

[severe ledge]

i'm using a T Junction for the pipe feeding from the middle... maybe it's buggy

edit: yeah i had a problem with the T junction. Coal Gens were placed with auto connect, the feeding T junct was added later. somehow adding the T junction had disconnected half of the pipe from the last 4 coal gens, so, on that side I had 1 extractor trying to feed 4 gens in an impossible manifold)

[severe ledge]

ctrl+drag to trash can deletes all items of that type

[jolly plume]

life saver

[glad wraith]

yo i need some help im using 240,000 watts but im only producing 75,000 and im running out of material for my nuclear plants since i cut off my nuclear plants from my main grid

[opaque osprey]

How do I access the crude oil thats in like rocks and stuff

I reached tier 5 and im going to create a plast ic factory in the west coast but alot of the crude oil is in the rocks

Now im thinking its not az good place to build plastic bc I cant extract half the oil

[severe ledge]

fracking probably

[opaque osprey]

Whats fracking when do you get it

[severe ledge]

tier 8

[opaque osprey]

Ohhhh thats annoying

[severe ledge]

there are fracking nodes, but there are also jsut nodes with rocks on them, those rocks can be blown up with nobelisk

[opaque osprey]

How much plastic do u need do you think I can survive withj the non fracked oil there?

[severe ledge]

tbh idr if any crude oil has rocks on it though

[opaque osprey]

Wait so yo dont need fracker and just blow up the nodes?

[severe ledge]

yeah if it's just 1 node with a rock on it, blow it up

if it's several small nodes all clustered together, then it's a fracking resource well

[opaque osprey]

Oh then its a fracking resource

[hard wolf]

how fast can you find a few oil nodes and turn it into a heavy oil residue to diluted fuel plant? It might be enough to get up and running again, and would (hopefully) be pretty easy in the spire coast (north edge), islands (west edge), and blue crater (bottom right corner, also has lots of good resources for rocket/ionized fuel)

[severe ledge]

you said west coast? those 2 island have 2 pure, and 2 normal crude oil. that's plenty to get plastic started and computers and other stuff you need to progress

[opaque osprey]

Alright if need be ill just shove some slugs in there

How can I deal with the fuel since im planning to build my fuel factory in blue crator

[severe ledge]

probably easiest to just burn it in generators. you could package and sink it, too. but that would use up like 1 packager per fuel refiner

[opaque osprey]

How much does does a fluid buffer hold

[severe ledge]

400 idr industrial exactly, maybe 1600

like 10 mins of fuel from one refinery? 40 fuel per min

[opaque osprey]

thats like 12 min of fuel I just have to make like 200 rubber then ill burn the fuel when I get generatoirs

Doess sink accept packaged fuel?

[severe ledge]

yeah

[dense violet]

why do you need to buffer them?

[opaque osprey]

I dont know where else to store the residue

[dense violet]

heavy oil residue?
turn it to a solid (like coke) and sink it

it's the first basic practice at dealing with by products in the game

though I suggest west coast if you're doing your first fuel things, terrain is much more friendly with less evil critters

[jolly plume]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1498497300694307008

[dense violet]

people will see it when they see it - but also you've given zero info on what you want to 'improve'

[opaque osprey]

Oh yeah I already decided wesst coast for plastic then blue crator for fuel

[opaque osprey]

@severe ledge Could you take a look at my super basic factory just to get started

Im not sure where I can post it tho

[latent prawn]

supplementing for the noobs, coke is also useful to burn for power generation in coal generators. If you're hard-pressed for power when you start using refineries, a normal 100+100 plastic+rubber build will provide 450/min coke which can fuel 18 generators. At that stage of the game, that isn't bad power.

[opaque osprey]

But the sink must be fed

The last time I didnt feed thje sink my whole pc crashed

I say this totally unironicly btw

[latent prawn]

yeah, sinking it is also a thing if you don't need the power. my favorite thing to do with the coke off of that intro oil build is make electro cb's. after the 1.0 rebalance, that isn't as nice of an option though

back when buildings actually took cb's as a building material, setting up a little production off of the oil was nice

[brittle finch]

Oh man I would have had to do things way differently if they took circuit boards to build some things

[white dawn]

Yeah, there was a fair amount of recipe rebalancing in 1.0

Used to need HMFs and Computers for trains

(There was something else in Phase 3 which used to need HMFs too, though I don't recall what...)

[latent prawn]

yeah, building costs used to be quite a bit different. i support the lowering of the cost tiers generally, but i think the old values had more charm

[latent prawn]

generators

back when you loaded 5 trucks up with hmf's, quickwire, computers and whatever else and parked them in order to build power, lol

(i don't miss that)

[white dawn]

Yeah, I was mostly onboard with the changes from a gameplay perspective, but a lot of the previous recipes made a lot more "logical" sense. Like HMF+Computer for trains? A+ from a logical perspective

[wraith niche]

people

i have an idea

[humble marten]

no

[white dawn]

I do still feel like the MFG nerf (no longer needing batteries) was one of the weirdest ones

[wraith niche]

what if we could grind on the pipelines like is deep rock galactic

[white dawn]

Needing batteries for a Magnetic Field Generator was just perfect, and they were already dead simple

But whatever, that's not me complaining. c'est la vie! :D

[void cliff]

Would be cool if space elevator modifier also increased tier materials required. Or if 2X recipe cost also applied to buildings

[wraith niche]

what about grinding on pipeline rails though

[rancid plover]

yo guys

i found and mined a piece of sam ore for the first time

and my game immediately crashed

[wraith niche]

L

[rancid plover]

they dont want us to know about sam ore

[mint cradle]

Just about to finish my first coal plant

[wraith niche]

thats interesting and all but what about grinding on pipelines

[mint cradle]

Just waiting for manifold to fill

[rancid plover]

w h a t

[wraith niche]

i just finished mine yesterday its awesome

[wraith niche]

have u ever played deep rock galactic

[rancid plover]

what is a manifold

[white dawn]

It'll be in the same place when you reload. :)

[rancid plover]

OHHHHHHHH

[wraith niche]

yeah

you see

[rancid plover]

yeah i have like 300 hours

i love bosco

his name is bosco or something right?

[wraith niche]

now we should be able to grind on the pipelines in this game

[white dawn]

It's a way of hooking up resources to machines so that you don't have to worry about "perfectly" balancing them. Looks like this: ```
[S]: Splitter | [M]: Merger | [B]: Building

          [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [Output]
           ^        ^        ^        ^
           |        |        |        |
          [B]      [B]      [B]      [B]
           ^        ^        ^        ^
           |        |        |        |

[Source] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S]

[wraith niche]

yes it is

[rancid plover]

oh that thing has a name

yeah i love those

i also love doing pointless math to perfectly split resources without a manifold tho lol

[wraith niche]

so when in the game can i expect a jetpack

[narrow canyon]

Once you unlock it.

[white dawn]

It's in Phase 3 "officially" (tiers 5+6)

[wraith niche]

when dumbass

[grave cove]

damnnnn

[wraith niche]

thank you

[white dawn]

You can technically unlock it extremely early in the game by encountering a very rare mob spawn, though

[wraith niche]

interesting

[white dawn]

No need for that, btw

[wraith niche]

kinda was a need

[white dawn]

There was not, though it's also not worth any more discussion than it's already had. :)

[grave cove]

Where can i find the dev written fluids' documentation pls ?

[wraith niche]

idk

[grave cove]

where dumbass

[wraith niche]

good one

[grave cove]

Ikr

[white dawn]

There basically isn't one, though if you want a player-written fluids manual, there's a lot of crunchy details in here: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/images/Pipeline_Manual.pdf

[grave cove]

I'm almost 100% certain someone told me to read the dev written documentation about fluids tho, but i'll take a look at this link

[white dawn]

Though be warned: that's not really a "how to fluids" type doc. Work is at least theoretically underway on a new version which would be more along those lines, but don't hold your breath waiting for it to be released. These Things Take Time™ etc.

[white dawn]

If they did, they were mistaken. :)

[wraith niche]

does the game ever get rlly confusing

to the point where i have to keep looking things up

[white dawn]

Depends how prone you are by getting confused by the sorts of challenges the game gives you. :)

It certainly gets more and more complex, at least through Phase 4

[wraith niche]

im about 13 hours in with a coal power plant

[white dawn]

Phase 5 is actually a little bit of a breather. There's some fun new loops and stuff to play with, but Phase 4 is the height of the game's complexity

[wraith niche]

only on phase 1 atm

idk if im rlly slow

[white dawn]

Coal is in Phase 2, btw. :)

[wraith niche]

mb im in phase 2 then

[white dawn]

Nah, folks can spend hundreds of hours on playthroughs, and everyone plays at their own pace.

[hard wolf]

I wanna build a complex structure but I don't think I have enough angled foundation/wall pieces to do it xwx

[white dawn]

Don't bother trying to compare your playtime to other players. Just take your time and have fun! It's a marathon, not a sprint.

[wraith niche]

true that

[white dawn]

(I mean, it's not even really a marathon. It's a pleasant stroll through a sunny hillside prairie. :D)

[wraith niche]

ngl its def my fav game atm

[white dawn]

But yeah, I suspect you will often be surprised by the increased complexity and factory-size expansion throughout the rest of the game.

It will definitely get more and more complex for some time. :)

[wraith niche]

i got this

[white dawn]

You do!

[wraith niche]

im alr a pro

[white dawn]

The main thing to remember is that you can always break stuff down into smaller problems. When faced with some huge complex production chain, you can always just do little bits of it here and there and just slowly build your way up to it

[wraith niche]

1 thing at a time

[grave cove]

I ragequited the game bc i didnt understand trains, I then came back 2 weeks later, took my time and I now have a 82 train network running smoothly. So yeah the game gets really confusing and thats normal, the point of the game is to allow you to think, so just try to think

[severe ledge]

playing 1.2 with random nodes. back to trying to make more heavy modular frames than i actually need lol

[hollow geyser]

I'm crying at the amount of water extractors I need to make my nuclear power plant. 288 over clocked water extractors 😭

[worn oar]

Meanwhile me trying not to lose my sanity while tackling 1000 machines and foundation at a time

[worn oar]

Oh you are going to love (hate) plutonium :)

[hollow geyser]

Like it's 600 water per nuclear plant (over clocked ofc) I need like 56 thousand just for those in the end with all 3 nuclear fuels

[manic geode]

i have crude oil pumping into my refinery but the refinery is staying idle?

[hollow geyser]

Are all your output's empty

[worn oar]

I mean if you think about it it really is a simplified version of other water problems. You can build for example over the waterfall in the southwest (lots of other options) and just pipe 2:1

Unless you decide not to overclock nuclear for some silly reason

[hollow geyser]

I'm building over and ocean rn and it's 2 OC water extractors per mk2 pipe

[manic geode]

yes, im trying to make plastic using the recipe that only needs crude oil, and the input pipe is full of oil, i have a pump on the intake line to ensure its not a gravity/elevation issue

[hollow geyser]

And just one pipe is one OC reactor

[worn oar]

Yes it's 2:1 I was thinking of mods that multiply the extractors my bad

[hollow geyser]

Yea so the amount of extractors I need is ungodly and I only have half of them built 😭

[worn oar]

You could build the extractors right underneath the plants if you want to minimize pipe work

It's a lot though

[hollow geyser]

But the coolness also gets minimized

[radiant magnet]

Wassup folks

[manic geode]

are screenshots allowed? if so what format? i cant sem to share screenshots

[bitter lodge]

#screenshots

[radiant magnet]

For me it works if you keep it flat, do you have any pumps?

Because pumps might solve the issue

[manic geode]

yes, i put a pump on the last seciton that full of oil, yet the refinery isnt processing anything out of the full pipe directly on its intake

[radiant magnet]

Alright I need to ask to be sure, do you have T1 or T2 pipes?

[manic geode]

i have MK1 pipes, i dont have upraded pipes unlocked yet

[radiant magnet]

Ohh... Alright post the screenshot and lemme see it

You need a lot of pumps for T1

[manic geode]

just posted in screenshots thread

[radiant magnet]

Lemme see the production line please

[manic geode]

lemme know if you want more

[bitter lodge]

ohhh

[river ingot]

Pipe is full so no issues with headlift
Try deleting and reconnecting pipe

[bitter lodge]

ya your pipes won't say 300 individually lmao

[radiant magnet]

Oh wait yeah your all right XD

[bitter lodge]

each segment of pipe holds X amount. So if its full like that, that is good.

[radiant magnet]

Their issue is it isnt producing plastic with base recipe

[bitter lodge]

plastic is super streamline though?

or I think it is?

[radiant magnet]

So maybe try reconnecting pipeline

[manic geode]

the whole line or just the segment(s) near refinery for replaceing pipe lines?

[radiant magnet]

The whole thing

It'll take a minute for the oil pump to refill the pipeline but you should be fine after that

[bitter lodge]

oh ya be careful about recipes

[radiant magnet]

WAIT

Is your refinery powered?

[bitter lodge]

if your refinery can't output items it won't produce

[radiant magnet]

@manic geode

[river ingot]

Yeah if there's 2 outputs and 1 fills up both outputs will fully stop

[radiant magnet]

I forgot plastic makes a byproduct 😭

[bitter lodge]

yup.

[radiant magnet]

I had the rubber recipe in head XD

[bitter lodge]

which you gotta dump lmao

[manic geode]

yes, it is powered, the closest pipe section is 100% full, pumps and the oil extractor and refinery have power

[radiant magnet]

Okay so now check the byproduct

Is that full? Because Plastic makes two items

[manic geode]

it hasnt even accepted any oil, so output is at 0

[radiant magnet]

Ahh

[bitter lodge]

the fuck

[radiant magnet]

The infamous satisfactory pipeline strikes again XD

[bitter lodge]

I want to see how your pipes are connected from pump to refinery

[radiant magnet]

Same

[bitter lodge]

I never had an issue with fluids like that

[radiant magnet]

All I did was ensure it had enough headlift and production

[manic geode]

ok, one moemnt while i grab those screenshots from extractor to refinary

my bad, pump to refinery

[radiant magnet]

Bro Azana it's gonna be the simplest thing and we're gonna slam our heads to a wall XD

[bitter lodge]

Maybe

I produce 100 plastic and rubber/min from like one oil spot

[radiant magnet]

I produce too much Plastic/Rubber, so im constantly in limbo for my fuel generators lol

[bitter lodge]

Like first oil production is pretty easy imo. But I am dragging oil from far away now to make rocket fuel for fun :3

[radiant magnet]

Im stuck on like Phase 4... There's to much stuff to do.

The nuclear phase is really turning me off XD.

[bitter lodge]

Ya like normal fuel is easy. Want rocket fuel? add in some new things. Want ionized...go fuck yourself, you don't got it unlocked >.>

[bitter lodge]

I haven't even unlocked nuclear yet personally.
I just got my mk3 miners :> unlocked drones on the side. But making phase 4 stuff....I am gonna handfeed machines >.>

[mint cradle]

Now I needa figure out where to produce my steel

[radiant magnet]

There's a good spot I have set up

[bitter lodge]

OH I know a really good spot for the first one!

[mint cradle]

In grassy fields?

[radiant magnet]

Granted the coal is a bit of a belt. But good

[mint cradle]

I just finished my coal power plant

[radiant magnet]

Lemme grab the screenshot of what the biome looks like lol I forgot

I barely play Satisactory anymore ngl, it got boring without people to play with.

[manic geode]

i just shared screenshots, hopefully they're inorder

[mint cradle]

I’m having fun still

Got the game last week and I have 40 hours

[manic geode]

i included refinery, direct pipe, the pump, and pipe before pump

[bitter lodge]

#screenshots

[mint cradle]

The highlighted green ones?

[radiant magnet]

I have a bit over a hundred hours XD

[bitter lodge]

that entire area

there is coal, iron and limestone. Great place for a starter steel factory imo

its close to the easiest spawn, just go south

[mint cradle]

Yea imma do it

I’m at the 3 normal nodes near the 2 impure limestone

[radiant magnet]

Actually... my spot probably wont work unless you have a ramp or zipline XD

I'll still show ya though

I use the elevator schem to get up lol

[mint cradle]

Would the power extenders be good to unlock or blueprints

[bitter lodge]

I feel blind- but it doesn't seem the pipes are connected to the refinery-

[bitter lodge]

dealers choice

can run just basic poles all the way there as well.

[mint cradle]

Nvm I need steel for blueprints

[shrewd palm]

blueprints are so nice

[mint cradle]

Imma use that node near the void

[shrewd palm]

dont know what i'd dow ithout them

[bitter lodge]

also look at steel alternate recipes as well...

[mint cradle]

Or maybe the whole area

[radiant magnet]

Fr lol, I have a 4x4 4m platform on one.

[bitter lodge]

I got a 5x5 2m LMAO

[manic geode]

shared another screenshot, is it possible game glitched on the connection?

[radiant magnet]

imo just redo the pipeline sadly

[manic geode]

ok, ill try redoing them 😭

[mint cradle]

Should I try making the factory vertical I wonder

Bro it’s 10 this game is ruining my life

Distracting me from hw lol

[radiant magnet]

Nahh, vertical factories are tougher

[bitter lodge]

its just a matter of understanding that there is "perfect" or "right" way to play satisfactory. its all your own choice/world. just have fun with it.

[bitter lodge]

Nah

I got a 5 story iron factory ;)

[worn oar]

I am going to use belts for everything and not touch trains, drones, or trucks

[radiant magnet]

Maybe they are for me XD

[worn oar]

And everything will be in flat levels along the ground (without foundations) to maximize the spaghetti per square mile

[radiant magnet]

@mint cradle Still want the area where my steel factory is?

[radiant magnet]

Ahh yes spaghetti central

[bitter lodge]

that has been me...I am on tier 8 things-

[radiant magnet]

I havent touched any of the automated vehicles...

[bitter lodge]

I did make a train recently :D

its really cool watching it go from my alum factory to depositing ingots

[radiant magnet]

Bro I am dreading trains.

[bitter lodge]

They actually aren't bad at all.

[radiant magnet]

Fr?

[shrewd palm]

by far the worst part about trains is getting the global network set up

[bitter lodge]

The way I imagine it. Whatever I belt into a cargo spot. I will get that same amount out.
Like if the belt is a full 780. I will get 780 on the other end. its just a cooler looking belt highway

[radiant magnet]

Look at my spaghetti in screenshots XD, there's so much more and it's all for automated wiring XD

I really need to clean up my production lines XD

[bitter lodge]

ya this just seems...something you do over time

[radiant magnet]

Bro I wanna run a save with someone from here XD, would be fun.

[bitter lodge]

#1201555265942724758 there is always people looking.

[shrewd palm]

i like to get a loop around the map set up and then expand into biomes as needed

[bitter lodge]

That is a smart idea.

I wanna do a cool train system but my focus is getting max tier belts...I got my mk3 miners, once i get the belts. I am gonna go like full sandbox mode and just make whatever I want.

[radiant magnet]

I didnt even see that 😭

Thanks mate

[mint cradle]

Sure

[radiant magnet]

Alright gimmie a sec to hypertube there

[mint cradle]

I’m definitely gonna use trains

Since I’m making outpost factory’s

Instead of one big central

[bitter lodge]

That is known as individual

[worn oar]

There's way too much factory building in this train simulator TBH

[shrewd palm]

preach

[mint cradle]

Well I might have one central and just train everything to it

[bitter lodge]

Exactly what I do.
Each factory I make will start with only raw resources and produce a final product or 5...Even if things in the middle are already automated.

[mint cradle]

I’m thinking about a stacked train line

[manic geode]

sooooooo i figured it out, like yall guessed, it was user error lmao.. i had the inpout connected to the output lines bahaha

[mint cradle]

Idk if that’s possible

[bitter lodge]

BRUH

[shrewd palm]

the thing with trains is that they're really good for bulk transport

[mint cradle]

Like a stacked factory train arrives at each level and each level produces something else

[shrewd palm]

which means that they're best used for transporting raw resources, and drones are for the end/middle product most of the time

[mint cradle]

Awe man

[shrewd palm]

trucks/tractors are sort of in the middle

[manic geode]

not sure how i missed that, but its in my MO lmao life be lifing lately lol

[bitter lodge]

Ya trains accel in just bring a mass quanity of resources. Like miner to train to factory.

[mint cradle]

So how would I connect my outposts

[shrewd palm]

nothing stopping you from using them for whatever, they're just the most efficient option for moving raw resources

[bitter lodge]

idk

your choice, belt, truck, train, drone...or don't at all

[mint cradle]

What if I need a finished product for a new item

I mean if it works it works

I like train

[shrewd palm]

real

[mint cradle]

Still not there yet tho just gotta get to phase 3

No clue how imma get 1000 playing and the framework

[shrewd palm]

im using trains for basically everything rn but thats because i dont have enough rocket fuel to use on drones 😭

[bitter lodge]

Ok so for example. to make something like a computer. You need circuit boards. You may be automating those else where. But who says you have to transport those circuit boards? You could just remake them in the computer factory?

[earnest condor]

Trucks exist.

[shrewd palm]

dont have rocket fuel for trucks

[mint cradle]

I might do vertical factories I’m not liking all this horizontal

But I’ll try that later

I needa do hw

[shrewd palm]

i can expand my rf production a little bit but i dont think it'll help very much with the amount of vehicles i need, also i need to make my mega aluminum factory for more rf anyways

[bitter lodge]

My suggestion. Each floor is a set of machines ;) Like constructors on one, assemblers on the next. Between the floors. I make a small 5-6m gap and use it as a logistics floor where its an absolute mess of conveyors. But you can't see it, so its not real and can't hurt you.

[mint cradle]

Have no clue how a big space elevator gonna save humanity and all the puppies and kittens but I’ll do it

[shrewd palm]

that or keep floors designated to each level of part

[mint cradle]

I like this idea

[bitter lodge]

tis what I did in my several story factory.

my base floor is on water basically cause I have 200+ refineries in there making ingots.

[mint cradle]

So like steel into beams on one floor and beams on another

[bitter lodge]

nah

That is to easy honestly.

[mint cradle]

Or those together

[shrewd palm]

there is a non zero chance that the puppies and kittens and endangered humanity isnt real and that ada is just using us to expand through the universe

[mint cradle]

I just unlocked steel lol

[mint cradle]

So evil ai maybe

[bitter lodge]

Ya so take it slow

[mint cradle]

Hmmmm

[bitter lodge]

you are gonna end up tearing that factory down or making an entirely new one anyway.

mk2 miners are soon and they can give you more resources per node.

[mint cradle]

One thing I love about the ps5 version is that Ada talks through the controller

[bitter lodge]

Plus when you powershard miners as well

[mint cradle]

Imma do homework now lol

Games too distracting

[bitter lodge]

but...the factory must grow-

so what if the game told you been playing for 14 hours straight...factory must grow

[mint cradle]

I played so much on Saturday that the notification of playtime started repeating

I never thought I’d like automation games

But something about this is so satisfying

[bitter lodge]

@radiant magnet BRUH

[next ivy]

just the name, nothing else

[bitter lodge]

I just saw the screenshots!? Foundations!?

[radiant magnet]

Hi

[radiant magnet]

Which one? You mean my spaghetti? XD

[bitter lodge]

;-;

foundations help keep things organized so much

[next ivy]

hes in early game

this is normal

good, even

[bitter lodge]

no.

They talked about the phase 2 wiring. They got foundations >.>

[radiant magnet]

That was when I was still figuring out stuff 😭

I foundation EVERYTHING now

[bitter lodge]

Lawn factories are crazy work

Like idk how people can keep track of their shit without some sort of organizing. But I seen it...and its more impressive than anything.

[next ivy]

just have to keep track of inputs and outputs

i dont remember anything else

[radiant magnet]

Wait @mint cradle I gave my aluminum factory...

Not my steel. Mb chief

[abstract heron]

[mint cradle]

Ur good

How long on average does phase 2 take

[little cobalt]

tough question, all depends on your goals and experience

[mint cradle]

I’m a noob

[little cobalt]

less time than the next phases

[mint cradle]

Just setup my coal plant

And just unlocked steel

[abstract heron]

i am a bigger noob 19,381 hrs on record 5,545hr on my current world

[manic geode]

so now that i figured out the crude oil stuff, what do i do with the orange fuel that i have biproduct being turned into until i unlock the petroleum power upgrades?

[bitter lodge]

you gotta find a way to sink it

[abstract heron]

me biggest noob 😂

[bitter lodge]

turn it into a solid item and send it into a sink so it doesn't stop your factory from producing

[manic geode]

what does this even meannn? lol

[bitter lodge]

what recipe are you using for plastic/rubber?

[abstract heron]

no one looking at my hrs 😛

[ornate saffron]

HOR, DPF, Recycled plastic, REcycled rubber

[bitter lodge]

I know the recipes :3 just trying to see which they are using

[manic geode]

for plastic, the basic recipe that just needs crude oil > the byproduct i have another refinery making the orange fuel stuff

[bitter lodge]

cause they got to deal with byproduct now

[ornate saffron]

derp you where asking someone. I slow

[abstract heron]

New name beef?

[abstract heron]

anyone want to know my hrs 😛

[earnest condor]

Porkalo is faster 😏

[ornate saffron]

I usaully make petroleum coke (cuase it sinks)

[bitter lodge]

the thing with byproduct. Is that if your machine can't export everything. it just stops producing. It has to be able to export both things it makes.

[ornate saffron]

Just reflecting my interaction with the Bot banning me lol

[earnest condor]

Sinking Coke instead of making free power? 🤔

[ornate saffron]

they dont have fuel generators yet

[earnest condor]

Coke doesn't go in Fuel Gens.

Coke goes in Coal Gens.
For free power.

[bitter lodge]

holy shit

that...bruh never actually knew that

[earnest condor]

300 oil -> x5 Rubber, x5 Plastic -> Byproduct HOR to Coke -> 18 Coal Gens.

[manic geode]

is the packager what i need to 'sink' this stuff until i have the petroleum genny?

[earnest condor]

Standard first oil setup.

[earnest condor]

No need to sink. See above.

[bitter lodge]

get that free power.

[ornate saffron]

its option. Personally When i make ptro coke early its temporary.. it doesnt have to be though

[bitter lodge]

ya my oil factory was suppose to be "temp"

but I haven't had a need to produce more plastic or rubber for personal use. like 100/min of each is plenty-

[earnest condor]

All initial oil setups should be adding more power to your grid than they consume.

[ornate saffron]

these days i dont even tap a oil node unmtil i can make fuel generators ^_^

[bitter lodge]

personally I turned off power requirements

[mental flame]

does anyone know good server hosts to use for a 24/7 server

[ornate saffron]

Im sure the folks in #dedicated-servers can help ^_^

[mental flame]

lol thx, im blind

[earnest condor]

CHEATER

I mean... how dare you have fun playing a video game... 😏💛

[bitter lodge]

LMAO

[ornate saffron]

its no bother. I have the channel muted BUt they are friendly there

[bitter lodge]

Ya I done so many seperate saves until 1.1 release. I was like nah fuck doing power management. I just want to actually progress tier 5-6 unlocks for once.

[manic geode]

so petroleum coke can go into coal genny? right?

[bitter lodge]

Yup.

[ornate saffron]

yup

[bitter lodge]

Free power, or sink for tickets.

[earnest condor]

25/min per gen.
Water is still 45/min.

Can give examples of how to pipe the 810 water if you need.

[ornate saffron]

it has a diffrent burn rate thouigh. When you place the coal generator click on it. In the top left of the interface there is a ⬜ in the corner of it click the 🟠

[earnest condor]

If you have shards it is sooo simple because you can do it with 3 Water Extractors.

[earnest condor]

Or just read where I listed the burn rate? 😁

[ornate saffron]

trying to teach so they can find it in game ^_^

[manic geode]

im still working through early-mid game stuff, so i appreciate not straight up giving me (and my wife) the answers

[ornate saffron]

..... you are early game still ^_^. Youll get there though

[earnest condor]

Haven't even reached early game imo.

[ornate saffron]

honestly first playthrough is a tutorial really. I found each after to be way more fun

[manic geode]

dang, im super happy with this purchase then lol

[ornate saffron]

I Try not to make "temp" facilities any more. they never are temp lol

[bitter lodge]

that is my plan going forward here soon.

Mk3 miners are gonna be a game changer. I want to clean up my old factories and make some really chunky ones that produce a lot of resources.

[earnest condor]

Everything prior to Phase 5 is "temp, pending deletion" on every run I do 😂

[ornate saffron]

My head is in the current PD2 Season but feel free to @me if you think i can help

[manic geode]

i've reset/layout my stuff sooooo many times cuz my adhd is like 'just place stuff and we'll figure it out later' lol

[bitter lodge]

heck ya beef.
Currently focusing on completing phase 4 via hand feeding machines. Then gonna make some big boi factories for the cool end game stuff I never got to play with before. this is actually the furthest I gotten ever lowkey

[ornate saffron]

Honestly I leave it and build more. Come the credits its nice to see how far you have come since ytou started

[manic geode]

yea but then sometimes i didnt set up the logistics to keep up with leveling demands

[bitter lodge]

mk2 miners and mk5 belts are the longest part.

You won't see mk3 miner and mk6 belts for the longest time imo

[manic geode]

my saving grace is the setting things up without worrying about clipping issues, but at times, ive broken that work around from my overall layouts lol

[ornate saffron]

the game has been better since they added soft clipping lol

[manic geode]

i hopped on since they added that, so im thankful fs

[hard wolf]

also the hoverpack xwx

[bitter lodge]

ya the hoverpack is a game changer

[ornate saffron]

beans are just as good

[scenic nymph]

https://medal.tv/games/satisfactory/clips/myFdqh61KCyaXeXPG?invite=cr-MSxqeDUsMzIxODE2MjAy guys how did this happen

[next ivy]

joined today, first message a link

[scenic nymph]

it isnt embedding

[bitter lodge]

but its not split-

but you do you boo.

[scenic nymph]

what

[bitter lodge]

its not split.

[scenic nymph]

well

but its cool I did that

[bitter lodge]

also, its probably just connected on the bottom....

[scenic nymph]

who knows

not me

i fixed that issue

[glacial totem]

sorry it's been discussed 100x but is there a planner that's not the one on Steam (I'd like to have them both running at the same time)

[dense violet]

@white dawn I’m saving that image next time people try to crap on about buffers

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's pretty glorious

I suppose I could've just transcribed my favorite bit instead of hiding it off in an image channel

Paraphrasing slightly: Buffers don't fix throughput problems; they just store them for later.

I love that it's just right there on the docs, though

[hollow geyser]

I can't wait to completely pave over the dune dessert to suck it dry of all the copper it has to make into copper powder to make pressure conversion cubes and 64 nuclear pasta

[rich parrot]

I like to use https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production for planning.

[dense violet]

Oh I caught that xD my fav bit

[next ivy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/production-planner
https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/
https://factoriolab.github.io/sfy?v=11
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3187030/Satisfactory_Modeler/

[white dawn]

Oh, yeah, just figured others might enjoy as well, and realized I could've just, y'know, typed it out. :D

[tough dock]

will there ever be a snow biome?

[next ivy]

in 1.5

[tough dock]

is that confirmed?

[next ivy]

no

[tough dock]

wait why did you say 1.5 then?

[river ingot]

Me when I lie

[rich parrot]

They are not going to add new biomes, unfortunately.

[tough dock]

is that confirmed?

[rich parrot]

About a hundred times lul 😛 It is one of the most asked questions.

Nearly everyone would love to see an expansion to the map.

I would pay DLC money if we ever had a chance of that.

[cosmic garden]

I saw that a mod (on ficsit.app) is listed as N/A on linux, Can you mod on linux or is it just that the mod doesnt have a linux client port?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @cursive crane

[cursive crane]

Be a good question for the modders.

^

[normal orbit]

didnt they said they were considering dlc with a new biome?

[cursive crane]

c o n s i d e r i n g

As in, its one possibility for what a dlc could possibly be, but its a big maybe

There really hasnt been any news with dlc other than the fact that they would like to do it but dont want to tie main game content behind a paywall if they can avoid it

[fiery root]

Satisfactory is amazing. But its kinda frustating after finishing a Phase that u get thrown at with that 20 new possiblw things and materials and all that

[cursive crane]

Thats.. factory games Lol

The milestones/phases are one big tutorial to teach you how to use everything

[normal orbit]

do one at a time :p

[fiery root]

Yeaa but now i have to build a new factory only for all that new stuff.
And that needs planning and organization

[reef basin]

which is a skill that you learn by doing it 😛

[strange vortex]

I have no idea how to do Nucreal power plant and parts to complete phase 5

[reef basin]

same as ll other parts

[ivory bolt]

anyone know if there is a way to lock the camera angle in a hyper tube

[fiery root]

But there is not that much space ib my grassy fields
I dont wanna make my other factory too far away

[reef basin]

grass fields are huge
and making factories all over the map is kinda the point of the game

[hollow mountain]

Wheres the best biome to start (the place with the best nodes)

[reef basin]

any starting point is fine

and you cannot really use "best" (pure) nodes fully anyway until mk6 belts

so even impure/normal nodes are fine

[hollow mountain]

Do people really overclock every node?

[reef basin]

if you need more resources, why not?

[hollow mountain]

Im mean i guess

I dont really have a good factory i just build stuff all over the place

[worthy marsh]

When update

[reef basin]

when ready

[worthy marsh]

Cool

[reef basin]

even a bad factory is still a factory

[hollow mountain]

True true but i see people with big factory bringing like 1k+ item everywhere

Im not even close to that

[reef basin]

play at your own pace 🙂

[hollow mountain]

Im already at tier 9

[reef basin]

the game can be beaten with small factories

[hollow mountain]

Fair

[fiery root]

Yes yes ur right
But at other places i have to Transport the materials to me
Rn i have 4 iron nodes directly at me as well as 3 limestone

Imma have to find another fair location where i dont need 5km of belts to produce

[reef basin]

no, you can just build near the materials

[tough dock]

how do you see your altitude?

[cursive crane]

12k iron ingot factory demands blood

[hollow mountain]

Do people use pure ingot alt recipe or no? It require way more power but its faster

[cursive crane]

Yep

[reef basin]

well.. that's for you to decide 🙂

[cursive crane]

Alot more iron ore efficient

[reef basin]

as always, there are tradeoffs (as you mentioned)

if you are fine with them, go ahead and use it

[hollow mountain]

Maybe i need to start building larger scale factory because i have so many basic item not automated like motor

[reef basin]

most items are only needed in smaller scale

but yeah, you should automate everything you need

[cursive crane]

Best thing to do is take a larger item and make everything it needs on site, add an overflow smart splitter for when its full and hook it up to a dd/sink

[hollow mountain]

Dd?

[reef basin]

that kinda makes it rely on full storage for the final product to make the ingredients, I'd rather have separate production for the ingredients

[cursive crane]

Dimensional depot, if you havent unlocked it yet, check the mam

[hollow mountain]

Oh i already have a dd on almost everything

I have a small factory for motor i just put some resource manually

[south lion]

How many dimensional depots can u actually make after unlocking every upgrade for them in the mam

Cuz the upgrades take a lot of mercer spheres

[reef basin]

~200

[south lion]

Damn how many mercer spheres are there in the world😭

[reef basin]

~300

[south lion]

Fair enough

Man I wanna play satisfactory but I'm on vacation

Satisfactory lowk better than vacation

I can play it on phone but it's 20fps gaming

[cosmic parcel]

Sounds like you are on a boring vacation tbh

[south lion]

Pretty much

[strange vortex]

I have no idea how to do Nucreal power plant and fuel for it. I want to put it on impure uranium with mk3 + 3 those snail things (I forgot the name)

Can someone help me?

[south lion]

I haven't tried anything with nuclear yet since it's too complicated for low reward for me currently

[reef basin]

what is your issue?

[strange vortex]

I want its performance to be hight enought to use 100% from one inpure uranium deposit with mk3 + 3 those snail things but I think I will try to find pure BUT Idk how to it

I think Im just too dumb to do it

[cosmic parcel]

May I recommend a calculator? This is the one I used in my playthrough https://factoriolab.github.io/sfy/list?o=uranium**3*3&o=uranium-waste***2&e=*purity-0&r=uranium*miner-mk3*0**250&v=11

[reef basin]

just use something like this https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/ to calculate it

[strange vortex]

Thx for help

[mild finch]

And also, do you want it waste free or not?

[strange vortex]

Wdym waste free?

[mild finch]

Your nuclear reactors output uranium waste

That cannot be sinked

Unless you turn it into pountonium fuel rods and sink those

[night lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/hopcat-hop-cat-gato-saltando-gato-trampolin-gato-hop-gif-15430115493767544769

[mild finch]

Or go the very ressource hungry, ans very overkill way of ficsonium

[night lotus]

FUUUUCK

[next ivy]

epic embed fail

[night lotus]

😔 💔

[strange vortex]

Cant i just do very big storage for it and put it on ocean at the edge of the map?

[night lotus]

i mean hypothetically yeah

[mild finch]

You can, unless you want it waste free

That's why i asked

[night lotus]

i can’t even angry face react in that channel </3

[strange vortex]

What if I put uranium waste to dimensional storage?

[mild finch]

[mild finch]

You will have a small amount of uranium waste in your dimensional storage

There isn't really a reason not to do that, bur there also isn't really a good use for thag

[night lotus]

just process it its free extra power

[strange vortex]

Satisfactory shoudl add achigvement for having every item in dimensional storage

[strange vortex]

[mild finch]

Uhm, ficsonium isn't quite free

It's very expensive

[night lotus]

ok well not free

[reef basin]

not fail, just disabled

[next ivy]

ik...

[reef basin]

it's still extra power

[next ivy]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/h7vcyDmlpJYAAAAC/laughing-laughing-cat.gif

[sterile blade]

Barely so

[mild finch]

If you use the alternates that maximisz plutonium you use nearly twice the world's supply of sam, using the highest ficsite/sam ratio.

[mild finch]

I didn't say the contrary

[reef basin]

eh, it's decent power

[reef basin]

you won't need that much power tbh

[night lotus]

icl i have never actually done nuclear i just make a massive rocket fuel plant

blenders my beloved

[sterile blade]

The Ficsonium step gets negative in power if you so much as overclock it xD

[reef basin]

afaik it depends on many other factors as well

[sterile blade]

There is just one recipe for Ficsonium... There's no other factors than clock and sloop

[mild finch]

Yeah i'm hesitating between doing the ficsonium part for the funsies or doing a particular amount of uuh i forgot what it's name is but the item that gives the most points/ item when sinking

[reef basin]

afaik the reasoning is "you get more power by converting uranium", rather than "ficsonium is power negative"

[sterile blade]

You get more power if piling up Plutonium Waste was holding you back from burning Plutonium

The Ficsonium step itself is barely net-positive in energy (ie: overclocking >200% or so makes it net negative)

[reef basin]

you can build it so that it only eats 66.7% of the power

with "most resource efficient" way it eats 79.8% of power

and that's not counting the extra power you get from burning plutonium

that doesn't seem like "barely net-positive"

when including plutonium, it only eats 26.6% of the power produced

[south lion]

Very overkill way, more like yes please😼

[opaque osprey]

Is there anyway go transport heavy fuel residue long distances?

I want to use it for turbofuel for my first ever fuel generator but its half the map away from my plastic and rubber factory so im not sure how I can transport it

[dense violet]

You can package it and use any normal way to move it

Or use fluid options to move it

But it’s usually easier to move solids to liquids

[leaden turret]

-# burn it in trucks going in circles for no reason

[dense violet]

Also - just turn it to diluted fuel on the spot. No need to move it

[ivory condor]

FFRs are crazy expensive, even being net positive, it overall isnt really worth making

[sterile blade]

A production step that can give back 20% of the power you invested into it (which means it could give negative returns if fully overclocked) or barely more than that is, very much, "barely" net positive in my eyes..
Especially so when in a world where it's normally unthinkable to consider wether OC may make a power production net-negative, given they usually output AT LEAST 5x the power they take... (Prior nuclear steps go well above 10x)

[ivory condor]

Maybe if we had better alts for FFRs so it wasnt so lord help us expensive, but only one recipe, so not alot of room for optimizing resource consumption

[hard ivy]

I wish Ficsonium Fuel Unit existed
(outside my mod I mean XD)

the other 2 rods have unit alts

[sterile blade]

Tbf, I doubt even a doubling in output would make it very worthwhile for power... The resource cost is quite absurd, compared to building more of any other nuclear step instead

IMO, it just makes sense if it's the only step holding one back from burning Plutonium, which has a much bigger power output

Even building more Uranium just to sink the Plut. Rods still nets more than 15x the input power xD

[hard ivy]

my mod doubles the power output per rod, doubles the number of rods you can make from the same amount of Pu waste, and cuts the SAM cost like in half (in exchange for other resources), and it's still not that much better than converting bauxite to uranium

[sterile blade]

That's one hell of a comparison 😅

[ivory condor]

Time to make better modded alts

And pray its enough to make FFRs finally decent to use

[hard ivy]

to clarify, I don't think that "not that much better" is not enough. most of the recipe chains don't differ by 2x or whatever. being even 30% more SAM efficient per MW is fine

but the fact that it took a 4-8x buff to get there is ridiculous

[ivory condor]

Well FFR recipes werent that good to start with

[hard ivy]

and idk what the devs intended ficsonium to be either
I think it would still be somewhat reasonable if it was slightly worse than sinking plutonium
but being so much worse does not make any sense imo

[sterile blade]

👆
I think it's all about having a complicated way to have Waste-less burning of Plutonium Rods. The extra power on the production step itself is a negligeable parameter in comparison

[ivory condor]

What about ionized fuel, thats far worse for power than even FFRs

[sterile blade]

I think it fits with the Ionized Fuel logic, where it doesn't make sense doing it for power, but rather doing it to process/sink something else (shards)

[vestal jetty]

I know it's probably closed information, but does anyone have any idea when 1.2 hits stable? historically we should be somewhat on the timeline about now

[hard ivy]

the issue I have with that is that being net power positive wouldn't affect ion fuel's ability to sink shards in any way

[dense violet]

2-3 months from exp often

[hard ivy]

4-6 months usually

[vestal jetty]

i'm looking at the historical records - that's not true though - granted 1.1 was very fast of only a bit over a month - update 8 took almost 4 months indeed
but 7 was only about a month and a few days again

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> are you able to confirm if before or after start of summer break?

[obsidian zodiac]

yes

[leaden turret]

will you? 😛

[obsidian zodiac]

no

[leaden turret]

can you?

[obsidian zodiac]

i dunno

[vestal jetty]

lovely - on an unrelated note, how many bugs are you facing with experimental at the moment, and from 1-10 how would you rate the complexity of the new truck and fluid system? say in relation to previous patches

[leaden turret]

repeating question from slido:

what comes first:

• 2024 Game Jam Games
• 1.1 Press Kit
• 1.2 Live Release

[ivory condor]

What about patch before vacation, can you confirm if exp is going to get one?

[leaden turret]

hoping Uzu is feeling better

[obsidian zodiac]

we'll have news to share in the next day or two regarding that

[half falcon]

Thank you Jason!

[reef basin]

Unless you're considering storing waste, you have to include the gains from PFR as well, at which point it's ~25%

[coarse path]

can anyone please help me with train signals and path signals, i cant learn it and ive tied so meany youtube tutorials

[obsidian zodiac]

last i saw there were close to 20 on the prog teams plate, actively being worked on. as for the complexity of the truck system, thats a bit hard to say without diving into it fully. maybe we do a breakdown video of it in the future! as for fluids, there have not been any significant changes that would warrant it being called "new".

[obsidian zodiac]

game jam games not really on the radar atm, 1.1 press kit i will follow up on today, and 1.2 live release i dunno man

[obsidian zodiac]

yes

[hard ivy]

set up a small test build and test

[flint phoenix]

"Oh boy, I just unlocked steel, time to make a factory that produces all of the steel building components and project parts"

That was way harder than I thought it would be

[leaden turret]

-# (was not a wholly serious question, just poking fun at two things expected to come first but didn't :P)

[sterile blade]

#satisfactory message

[sterile blade]

It would change the weights in the choice of building it though. Eg: building a small Ionized production line for sinking shards Vs building a Ionized powerplant that also sinks shards (I hope my half-assed example conveys the point 😅)

[reef basin]

not sure I understand your point

I find it pretty reasonable to compare two wasteless paths you can take when you're making PFRs (sinking / ficsonium)

[violet glen]

Drones!

[vestal jetty]

all good was more a jokingly framed question to fish out a rough timeline
I'm on the fence on whether or not to cave in on experimental as i really want to build around the new vehicle system

But if i have to wait another 3 months, then i'd rather just hop into experimental

[leaden turret]

what if 3 months minus 1 day?

[vestal jetty]

Maybe others can talk about their experiences with experimental post 1.0 - anyone had any breaking changes or other concerns you'd normally worry about?

[vestal jetty]

mmm good question - but no i think my limit at this point is another month or so
And since previous experimental to stable has taken anything from 1 month to 4 (maybe longer if we're going back further than update 7 as i've not checked), it's very hard to say where we are

[leaden turret]

if you use non-train autopilot extensively, you may be S.O.L.

[vestal jetty]

S.O.L.?

[leaden turret]

[redacted] outta luck

[vestal jetty]

ah
well isn't the entire update related to truck autopilot?

[leaden turret]

new autopilot system doesn't do sharp changes in elevation or jumps

[leaden turret]

-# <@&370483737957236737> SPWN is auto poo-lot

[vestal jetty]

but as a bug or simply a limitation

[leaden turret]

as intended

[dense violet]

oh any chance the new truck system could be worked so trucks could use jump pads again?

that's the real crime of hte update

[leaden turret]

that reminds me, I should file thing on qa site if I have not already done so

[vestal jetty]

yes, but then it's not really an instability issue - so my case here is that i'm planning a new save - so i just don't want breaking changes

there's no guarantee of course, but from experience from those that do play in experimental; have you noticed any breaking changes (that isn't related to system overhauls like the old to new vehicle thingy you're referring to here)

[leaden turret]

if save abused autopilot system and you can't make any new similar paths, some would consider that a breaking change

[hollow rapids]

When will release 1.2 be released?

[vestal jetty]

true, but that's not an accident - i'm more worried about the stability

[leaden turret]

some time between now and the eventual heat death of the universe

[reef basin]

when it's done

[leaden turret]

@obsidian zodiac please confirm you won't be violating causality by releasing 1.2 before now

[hollow rapids]

😢

[vestal jetty]

likely within the next 3 months, but could be way sooner and potentially later (i'm only basing it off historical patterns)

[hollow rapids]

I played a little in the experimental version 1.2, and I have one doubt that the research of the serial connection of mechanisms with a single wire opens quite late, like at the Oil stage, although it would be cooler at the moment of steel, at the same moment when the creator of the blueprints appears.

[obsidian zodiac]

in its current form, no. theyre tied to the spline path and follow it 1:1. i think the solution would be to allow for switching between legacy & new paths, but thats a pretty time intensive update from what ive gathered. if theres enough sentiment in the community, like everything, we'll do our best to make it work down the line 👍

[leaden turret]

-# SPWN is not a TURDIS

[obsidian zodiac]

no

[leaden turret]

SPWN is a TURDIS?

[dense violet]

yeaaaahhhh I figured.

[dense violet]

Does anyone happen to know if trucks are basically collision immune to things other than other trucks in 1.2?

sorry accidental ping Marv xD

[leaden turret]

🤷‍♂️

[obsidian zodiac]

i hear ya though, i miss the jank too tbh. was one of the things i vocalized when i first heard we were updating the system, but as usual things are more complicated than i think haha

[foggy cairn]

Guys, one question.
What is going on with "Elevated meme"?
I'm not in the SF meme. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Sorry for ping
Miss click

[dense violet]

It's a reasonable change. I think a lot of people had difficulty with trucks because the path wasn't a physical object

elevated meme?

[leaden turret]

no, feel free to blame Jason.

he added after all.

[tulip arch]

When is the Satisfactory 1.2 stable release coming out?

[obsidian zodiac]

soon tm

[chrome whale]

This game is amazing, wish i had started playing it years ago

[obsidian zodiac]

no time like the present

[leaden turret]

or the past.

[foggy cairn]

Soo
What is going on with Elevated?

[leaden turret]

cringe is as cringe does

[foggy cairn]

Yhmmm

[leaden turret]

following on from that question I asked on-stream where Mikael had no idea what I was talking about https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69f09053b4a0d6184726a72c

[fluid sapphire]

i never even considered that this kills skateparks and i havent even built mine yet 🫨

[leaden turret]

only kills autopilot skate parks.

[dense violet]

the best kind

[fluid sapphire]

so i can still make one, except it will be lifeless and static

[keen sapphire]

can I have a 3 way intersection next to anther 3 way intersection if so how do I stop the signal lights saying signal loops into itself I have already made 2 3 way intersections and they work its just the 2 that's next to each other?

[fluid sapphire]

treating it as one big intersection is probably simplest

[next ivy]

use path signals inbetween them

if there is not enough space to house a train

[fluid sapphire]

dont place signals directly on rail splits, its buggy

[hard ivy]

Either treat them as one intersection and don't put any signals between them, or separate them with path signals
Do not put a whole set of both paths and blocks between them, that'll cause slowdowns

[keen sapphire]

I thought it was like Factorio with the signalling

[hard ivy]

Close, but not quite

Not all factorio rules apply

Block signals are the same as rail signals, but paths aren't chains

[keen sapphire]

I don't know how to make this work and it's bugging me now

lol

[next ivy]

did you confirm they are not too close to splits yet

[hard ivy]

Paths on entrances, blocks on exits

Inside the intersection, you can use path signals to split it up a bit, but don't spam them as much as you would chains

A pair of them between the 2 T-intersections is fine. Or none at all

[next ivy]

i was told splitting it up inside doesnt do anything

always thought it was bs

[hard ivy]

it helps a little bit
but not much

[next ivy]

i guess cuz of how path signals dont turn green automatically

otherwise it would probably help a lot

[keen sapphire]

they are 3 foundations apart

[next ivy]

the signal and the split ?

[keen sapphire]

I would sent a cnapshot at how close it is but I can't

[fluid sapphire]

if its a quick problem to solve #screenshots is probably OK

otherwise we have #1038092680493801533

[next ivy]

WIN SHIFT S for screenshots

those signals are right on the splits

remove all 4 middle signals and instead have 2 path signals right in between the intersections

[keen sapphire]

I have just sent the snapshot to #screenshots

[fluid sapphire]

you really dont need any signals in the middle at all honestly

[next ivy]

that too

[keen sapphire]

nope still not working

[next ivy]

same error ?

[keen sapphire]

same error

[fluid sapphire]

place your signals not directly on rail splits, but a little bit further out

[keen sapphire]

it snaps to the rail splits and I can't work out how to stop it

[next ivy]

place a seperate rail in the middle first for example

or split off from the middle rail, place the signal, and then remove the curve rail again

[keen sapphire]

didn't work sadly

[fluid sapphire]

shouldnt be too tricky to place them like 1 foundation distance out

you cant really do microadjustments

[keen sapphire]

it's just snaping to the split

[fluid sapphire]

make a segment before the split that is 1 foundation long

snap to the end of that segment

[keen sapphire]

ok I will give that a try

[fluid sapphire]

or 1.5 or whatever, dont remember the shortest possible length

[keen sapphire]

I have remove the other intersection out and I still have the same error

[fluid sapphire]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 with more images

[keen sapphire]

ok will do

[hearty flame]

#satisfactory-memes message @full dagger that makes the 4th elevated one

[reef basin]

#1038092680493801533 is always the place for it

#screenshots is just for showing off and requires us to switch channels

[keen sapphire]

ok