satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

opinions change

[white dawn]

I don't have a source handy but I can guarantee you that they're not going to do it. A company which spends six years handcrafting a beautiful map isn't going to add bloody "AI helpers" to the game

[earnest condor]

The ability to say "not at this time" or "most likely not" instead of a hard "no." Is ever-present.

[white dawn]

And this isn't the right place to suggest it anyway. You're free to suggest it to them on the Questions site if you want. But if you want it in the game, I can guarantee you it'll have to be via a user-created mod

[minor rock]

ohhh. i kinda see ur point tbh, i didnt think of it like that. its the future but i guess like they still stick with their tradititionally rendered frames and what nots

[fluid sapphire]

sure, i just wouldnt hang on particular phrasing or promises for a game during development

[minor rock]

maybe il just get the ai to do it for me

[earnest condor]

We are different people.
To me, no means no.

[white dawn]

Sure, but, y'know, go talk about it in the appropriate place, please. :)

[minor rock]

im will have to kickstarter for the tokens required

[plain marten]

when will 1.2 release

[cursive crane]

This dudes gotta be trolling

[earnest condor]

They are.

[white dawn]

Yeah, I keep falling for the troll bait, alas. :D

[atomic loom]

y'a des français ?

[minor rock]

?? im seriously

[earnest condor]

English-speaking server my friend 💛

[minor rock]

idk lol has like AI helper tool that lets u know what to do in game, just want that here

[atomic loom]

no probème

[fluid sapphire]

i bet there is an ai telling you what to type into this chat right now

[white dawn]

You've got a persistent little counter up in the upper right-hand corner which tells you exactly what to do next in the game. :)

[fluid sapphire]

and milestones in the hub to spell it out in detail

[minor rock]

yeah thats true i do have that. but also an ai could help me auto select the correct building when i open the build menu , or help me decide on the correct placement for buildings , or even make some buildings automatically or fix power outages etc., just basic stuffs

right now, we have none of those key features

and the search ui is really slow

[earnest condor]

Plz never.

[fluid sapphire]

we do, they are in your brain

[white dawn]

And, [whatever] be praised, we never will have those key features. :)

[cursive crane]

Key features

[plain marten]

just use blueprints

[white dawn]

As I say, if you want it: suggest it on the Questions site if you want the devs to see your suggestion. And then if you really do want it, start learning how to mod the game, 'cause that's the only way it's ever gonna happen.

[minor rock]

nah its just pure 100% creativity and solutions oriented thinking

[minor rock]

prob a good idea. what would u mod into the game if u could do anything ?

[fluid sapphire]

if only we could apply that to playing the game

[white dawn]

I mean, I could do anything but I've chosen not to. I haven't used mods on this game since Update 3. :)

Not that I think the game is perfect but I'm happy to see what CSS comes up with and stick to that.

[minor rock]

yeah i get that writing about AI mod and being an advocate will take me more time than just playing the game. however, when the AI assistant in game is added with seamless integration to satisfactory, it will save thousands, or hundreds of thousands of players time in game by auto place buildings etc., that productivity overall will skyrocket

i'm just here for the cause

[surreal ingot]

Terraforming, or at the very least being able to break the little rocks in the grass plains that are in my way

[white dawn]

The only things I'd be interested in "modding" would be some bugfixes for some specific bugbears of mine over the years, but so far I've been happy to just work around those. :D

[fluid sapphire]

you know, maybe we could cut out the players entirely from this equation and just make the ai do it, after all, that would make the productivity skyrocket even more

[white dawn]

(I love how your proposed benefit is "you don't have to play the game")

[minor rock]

when you say terraform, meaning the terrain or the removable fauna?

[white dawn]

I think I have the ideal game for you: progressquest.com

[minor rock]

yes exactly now you're getting it

[white dawn]

Go play that instead of Satisfactory, you'll love it. :)

[surreal ingot]

The terrain, I hate having no space and to build sky factories

But I also don’t understands verticality that much so

[white dawn]

Anyway, enough falling for trollbait; it's a nice day out there. :)

[minor rock]

ill try the progress questing

[plain marten]

its a snowstorm here

[surreal ingot]

It’s not snowy but it is super cold when it should be hot

[plain marten]

define super cold

[surreal ingot]

It was 20 yesterday, now it’s 1°

[minor rock]

sadly 😭
theres a concept game called planetsmith, tbh that made a baby with satisfactory would be awesome.
i'm not sure if tunnels are feasable at all sadly with how the levels are designed

[surreal ingot]

Before windchill

[plain marten]

here was about 10c the whole last week which was rather insane but now its 2c

[surreal ingot]

Being able to build underground factories would be awesome

[plain marten]

you can already

[surreal ingot]

So you’re warmer than me by 1 degree

[minor rock]

yeah it'd be cool if you dig an actual tunnel though :p

[surreal ingot]

Only by working around caves. I wanna build my own caves

Alas, that’s what I have Minecraft: Create for

[minor rock]

you can do it technically .

[cursive crane]

Sounds like yall need to play foundry

[surreal ingot]

I don’t know what that is

[minor rock]

what does it have an ai assistant ingame ?

lmfao is foundry tekkit xD

[cursive crane]

Another factory game. Think factorio but 3rd person, voxel world, etc

[plain marten]

satisfactory rules

i believe you can build the prettiest looking factories in satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

maybe you can, i know i cant

[plain marten]

my factories are kinda mid most of them are rather boxy

like here#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

better than mine

[minor rock]

im pretty sure my ai factory helper builder concept can help you . imagine all of this rounding for you done in games #screenshots

[placid stirrup]

That's just an AI photo bruh

[earnest condor]

@minor rock #rules
🔸 AI Generated Content 🔸

We kindly ask you to not post any AI generated content anywhere other than in #off-topic-media and clearly mark/declare it there as being AI generated.

[placid stirrup]

Would've been cool in 2020 maybe

[white dawn]

"I'm pretty sure that [thing which doesn't exist] can help, trust me!"

[fluid sapphire]

if he could read he would be very upset right now

[wet moon]

They might actually be a robot just blasting out AI oriented messages

Its all they seem to talk about

[high kiln]

how much coal is one coal powered gen gonna be using per minute

[plain marten]

15

[high kiln]

oh dam

can i see how far a pump is pumping so i know when to put another one?

[green fiber]

yes. you snap them to the pipe

[high kiln]

no like i have one down

and i dont know where to put the second

[green fiber]

connect the pipe, snap the next pump to the connected pipe

you should see a blue hologram appear on the appropriate height

as long as its not over 100 m long before it goes up

[high kiln]

the blue hologram already reaches the target

so does that mean i only need one pump?

[green fiber]

then there is no second pump needed

[high kiln]

ahhh oke ty

[green fiber]

if the blue hologram ring stops at a certain height, thats where another pump is needed

if it doesnt stop anywhere or reaches the target, you probably wont need another pump

just check in on the first pump and see how high the head lift gauge rises once you start pumping whatever liquid it is

[high kiln]

god wiring this is going to be hell

maybe i should build on foundation...

how do i spilit the miner output 4 ways

ah k thats easy

[dense violet]

a few splitters #math-and-meta message

[hearty cliff]

I want to play Multiplayer with a friend we wanted to build 2 separate bases and link them in mid to endgame, i now read you can only build 1 hub which kinda sucks - is there a mod or way to avoid this?

[stone fulcrum]

Hey all I would like to know when 1.2 will be out

or is it

[dense violet]

#announcements

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @dense violet

[dense violet]

the hub doesn't do much except unlocks though.

you don't need seperate ones

[hearty cliff]

isnt respawn locked?

[stone fulcrum]

thx

[dense violet]

so hyper tube back over to where you want to be after

[hearty cliff]

Okay but I don't have tubes in the early - well i guess we will have to build in 1 place

[dense violet]

zip lines are also very early. Mostly try not to die I guess

[minor rock]

Maybe can use 1.2 custom spawn points, idk how they work exactly though

[dense violet]

iirc they are fairly later in the progression

[white dawn]

Not awful really, needs Modular Frames and steel (and just your basic RSAM)

I think ziplines require steel too. Don't sleep on ziplines, though; they're an excellent Pioneer transit system for basically the whole game

Also, whether you and your friend are building separately or not, Is highly recommend not thinking in terms of "bases" at all. Instead, make factories around the map, near the nodes the factories need. :)

(I'm also not entirely sure how building two separate "bases" wouldn't just end up with two places producing the exact same stuff)

[cold berry]

ALTERNATE TACTIC: build near nothing and have to play OpenTTD just to make an iron plate

(there are really cool places to put factories that I'm upset are near freaking nothing lol)

[void cliff]

Just keep the hub un-built for most of the game, build it when you want to turn in milestone materials

[wild phoenix]

Man I wish you could zoop blueprints

[earnest condor]

[wild phoenix]

But it’s a 3*3 of floor

[jovial beacon]

The scale of factories would be insane 😭

[wild phoenix]

Im lazy and want to pave over nature as efficiently as possible

I dislike that you can only zoop in 1d

[jovial beacon]

Are you on live build or experimental ?

[wild phoenix]

?

[jovial beacon]

Are you on 1.1 or 1.2

[eager palm]

Zooping should be allowed for any blueprint that fits on a single foundation, at least. (Though I’m sure there’s a community-based solution for this)

[wild phoenix]

1.1 I think

[jovial beacon]

You can use the smart mod or the zoop unlimited mod to zoop 100x100 foundations

That is, as long as you are on pc and not console

[wild phoenix]

I am

[jovial beacon]

There you go then easy solution !

[wild phoenix]

Where does one get these mods

[earnest condor]

@wild phoenix

[wild phoenix]

Hmmm

[jovial beacon]

Google “ficsitapp” and you should see a site the houses mods, click the download manager at the top right and you can use it to manage and install mods and to launch the game

[earnest condor]

@earnest raft now you play the game?

[earnest raft]

after that

[wise junco]

henlo

[placid stirrup]

How arn you

[wise junco]

m gewd. n u?

[placid stirrup]

Chinlin with a drugged up cat

@earnest raft I feel like we would be the names of a 2 stage Pokemon

[earnest condor]

Does Minecraft end the moment you kill the dragon or do you keep playing the game?

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

i need two items chat
one comes from that hole and I want another hole that puts it in the place above the conveyor how wil[l i do this

[earnest raft]

i dont kill her until the end of the world

[cursive topaz]

You could use H to nudge another port into the same spot and then a lift that should do it

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> new photo mode filter suggested based on this week's dev stream: https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/post/69ec9f51b4a0d61847269c17

[wild mural]

is it possible to remove train stations from my hud?

[meager gate]

Yes, you should be able to from the map

[earnest condor]

Fair. Point is the game is a sandbox. It has no end. When you finish Project Assembly you are free to build whatever you wish to build (the intention of the game.)

Or, if you require the structure of milestones and such, start a new one. Pick a different drop zone. Try new recipe combinations or build in a more efficient way given all you learned on this run.

[wise junco]

the beauty really is in the eye of the beholder with Satisfactory. after p5, it's just a big ol playground

[feral vector]

I think I need progression to keep me addicted lol

[earnest condor]

If you are addicted to gaming please seek professional help.

[feral vector]

Oh don't worry the professionals are trying their best

[earnest condor]

🤔

I would not make light of addiction as it is a serious topic that ruins lives.
But you do you.

[feral vector]

I'm over planning again, should I just find a new bauxite node if I want batteries?

[earnest condor]

Ball pit when?

[feral vector]

No I'm being serious lol I have an addictive personality. Haven't drank in over 8 years had to quit

[earnest condor]

"serious lol" 👍

[feral vector]

I'm just cursed and say lol too much when I type 😛

[white dawn]

Yeah, I don't do well in "pure" sandbox environments; I generally need some explicit milestones and such to work through

So once I've finished the last elevator deliveries and then ticked off whatever's remaining on my TODO, it's time for another playthrough (or, often, a bit of a break. :)

[feral vector]

I need to find some other factory games that are good with controller but that's not usually a thing for the genre

I don't think doing another playthrough right away would go well, I already burned out a bit from playing too much

[fluid sapphire]

Do you play only satisfactory?

[wise junco]

Hopefully soon

[feral vector]

For a few weeks yeah, got real addicted lol

[wise junco]

Just remember the game ain't going anywhere

[fluid sapphire]

Play something else for a change then

I always have at least one shorter game that has a clearly defined ending on the side

[feral vector]

Yeah that's what I did the last few days. I still want another factory game to play though

[wise junco]

After I finished p5, I picked up no man's sky on game pass. Different vibe but just as gripping. Scratching a different version of the same itch

[feral vector]

I usually have a bunch of games installed but if I get addicted to one I don't play anything else for a while

[fluid sapphire]

And a handful of others that are easy to dip in and out with like DRG, or snowrunner

[feral vector]

I need to get into that game more. But early game is just mining simulator

I really don't like manually gathering resources

[wise junco]

I need to get a couple games easy to pick up and put down

[wise junco]

Im the opposite. I love it

[feral vector]

Palworld made me like automating base stuff

[fluid sapphire]

Try DRG if you haven't

[feral vector]

Drg is a goated game

[fluid sapphire]

2000 hours in DRG for me xd

[wise junco]

Ooh, heard of but never tried

[feral vector]

Not much fomo bullshit either

[fluid sapphire]

Basically none

I would if I could, looks like it's not linked

[leaden turret]

too spoopy

[night wigeon]

hey i have a question about fluids:
when i have a source (oil for example) 600m3 and i want to fill 10 Refinery (60m3 x 10 =600m3) why is it that the last 2 ones have <100% efficient?

[leaden turret]

if you don't like the stingers in satisfactory, you'll hate DRG 😛

[earnest condor]

Did you loop the pipe and let it fill completely before running the system or did you just connect everything and turn it on?

[fluid sapphire]

You can always use the googly eyes mod

[cold berry]

I fear no spiders. ||Except the ones in this game for some reason||

[fluid sapphire]

Its pretty funny

[cold berry]

I've been known to call spiders cute

These ones are not cute at all

[leaden turret]

so you'll be moving to australia then? 😛

[placid stirrup]

The automation in PalWorld is definitely a gateway drug to SF

[night wigeon]

no and yes i guess cant remember^^

[cold berry]

I've never seen like, a black widow or a tarantula in person aside from the zoo behind glass (and I go to the zoo a weirdly high amount, favorite date spot for me and my wife).

I'm sure if I had to like face one of those down I'd feel different.

[placid stirrup]

Because there's no proof they provide any benefit to the local ecosystem

[fluid sapphire]

You know, I thought so at first, after a while you kinda adjust and they are just like any other monster in any other game, just something to shoot at

[earnest condor]

Manifold of both solid and fluid types will have the final machines stutter a bit if all you do is turn them on because they are just barely getting enough.
So you have to manually supply a bit to the end of the row (or prefeed the whole thing) if you want continual 100% operation.

Basically, you want the pipe/belt feeding the manifold to be refilling the machines, not filling them.

[night wigeon]

can i pn u a ss? cant send here just for clarification

[earnest condor]

Send it in #screenshots

[placid stirrup]

And because of that, for any stage in the process past the first it's helpful to use belts whose capacities are greater than your inputs

[fluid sapphire]

Check it out fr, it's fantastic. Where are you situated anyway, if its EU I could play with you

[placid stirrup]

@night wigeon or use #1038092680493801533 if it's a pointed question

[earnest condor]

1. Yes, loop the end of that back to the start.
2. Delete all Valves and Buffers in this system.

[placid stirrup]

The peace of mind were the valves we deleted along the way

Kibz?

Beefalo is indeed the GOAT

[worn oar]

If a fluid problem can't be solved by fluid buffers, you aren't using enough of them

[earnest condor]

Porkalo > Beefalo

[placid stirrup]

Same with Sev, Banana, and Apoc

[night wigeon]

start u mean before the first refinery

[earnest condor]

Yes.

[placid stirrup]

I'm partial to Tofufalo

[fluid sapphire]

Man I wish I could like that game

It looks great, the vibes are immaculate, but the gameplay is an endless slog of attrition

Yes

Super punitive food systems in games really grind my gears

I like how valheim does it

Yeah every once in a while I check out what new patches dst gets, it seems like it never stops growing

I wouldn't know, never made it to plains even

Just on the cusp of killing bone mass in our coop playthrough

Yes sir

[worn oar]

Derbal Space Trogram

[wise junco]

Nerth Americurr

I am decidedly anti-law

[placid stirrup]

"My Shot" from Hamilton just started playing in my head. Specifically, the "anarchy" lines haha

[worn oar]

False, cats need us

Even though they will never admit it

[wise junco]

thanks now i have to listen to the entire soundtrack

[finite mirage]

So will css add more game content? Or is the current content gonna have to suffice for a while? (Ive never finished the game completely)

[worn oar]

1.2 is coming

[finite mirage]

Isnt that like a QoL update?

[worn oar]

I don't know I haven't tried it

[earnest condor]

Ok define "new content" then?

[finite mirage]

Like interplanetary travel? 👀

[earnest condor]

Never.

[finite mirage]

💔

[earnest condor]

?

[placid stirrup]

Currently playing cat nurse this weekend

[earnest condor]

Game about 1 planet has no need to randomly add more planets.

[finite mirage]

EXACTLY

[worn oar]

Randomly-generated infinite Factorio planets when

[earnest condor]

I am not part of the above-mentioned "all."

[worn oar]

Hey if this is your forever game that's fine. Vomit react is a bit much.

[finite mirage]

i wish someone made a game combining nms and satisfactory

[placid stirrup]

That's what Jump Space is for

[orchid zinc]

If i have 16 coal plants i want to supply with water, that is 720 m3 in total. So if you divide that by 300 its 2.4, and that 0.4 confuses me. I get that to be 6 pumps, so somehow i need to have 3 pipes, two at full capacity and one at 0.4. How can i connect the pipes to utilize the pumps fully? Should there be junctions between all 6 pumps and then somehow route three pipes at the end of that web?

[worn oar]

There is NEVER enough concrete I swear

Just went through 10,000 in like 2 minutes

[earnest condor]

Pumps are only needed when moving water UP, just fyi.

[finite mirage]

Rich people problem, i use the SOIL FOR MY FACTORIES

LIKE A TRUE SPAGHETTO

[placid stirrup]

It do be like that, who knew building a moon would take so many resources

[worn oar]

Throwing machines on the ground is fine until you run out of ground room and have to rip up existing spaghetti for truck and train paths

[finite mirage]

I mean, that's kinda unrelated

[finite mirage]

Add planes

2 of the most underrated games, sf and nms

[wise junco]

currently in my first 10 hrs of nms... hooked

[robust wigeon]

If you run out of ground space, you’re using it wrong

[worn oar]

OMG can you imagine cargo planes? Maybe we could give them a port to take off and land from, and have them take fuel as an input. Oh and maybe they could be good for fast transport of low quantities of items. I like your thinking. Hopefully they add them soon.

[placid stirrup]

Nando Mando Sando?

[robust wigeon]

drones…?

[wise junco]

woosh

[worn oar]

Whoosh

[robust wigeon]

I haven’t used em yet

[finite mirage]

No man, sky 🤦‍♂️

[robust wigeon]

conveyor belts work fine

good to know that’s how they work though

[finite mirage]

I would enjoy huge lakes between lands, and ships and boats too

[worn oar]

Believe me I'm the biggest proponent of flat factory sprawl you can find. But at some point the terrain becomes the enemy. Instead of making that 8 HMF factory you need a long boi taking up a natural road that produces half or a quarter because otherwise it won't fit

[finite mirage]

That feels like a good update

[worn oar]

People do sky trains and shit for a reason

[robust wigeon]

I don’t make it fit

If I’m building on the ground, it goes everywhere

[worn oar]

Let me know when you hit phase 3 TBH

[robust wigeon]

#screenshots message

My world 3 years ago

Anyway I do use foundations now cuz they work better with blueprints

[placid stirrup]

Trigger warning pls

[worn oar]

Your failure to blow up the fart rocks disgusts and horrifies me

[robust wigeon]

lol

[placid stirrup]

The one mod that's enticed me is advanced power, where you can harness energy from fart rocks

[cold berry]

THEY'RE HARD TO AIM FOR OKAY I'M DOING MY BEST

[finite mirage]

I have a B class 💔

[worn oar]

...how?

[cold berry]

I'm usually rocketing over them tbf

It's hard to hit them from 50' in the air

[finite mirage]

Sean murray had the greatest redemption

Some might even say it was red and left the haters dead 👀

For over 2 years? 😳

[leaden turret]

lying liars who lied is #off-topic-general

[finite mirage]

My bad

[robust wigeon]

Yeah factoring in your own velocity too makes it hard

[finite mirage]

So has the changelog for 1.2 been revealed?

[surreal ingot]

Coal generator takes 15, and goal node makes 60, so for each coal node I can get 4 generators….

My problem is trying to fit the water pipes. I suppose manufolding it probably the best option, but every design seems to put them side by side. What if I place them like a box

C C
C C

Split the coal using lifts… I need to figure out how much power 1 generator makes

[finite mirage]

Where are you?

[surreal ingot]

I’m at the bottom of the grass plains. I’ll probably move to that pool a little north to make the generators and then just run wires all the way down

#screenshots message

[finite mirage]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[surreal ingot]

Yeah I saw that but I don’t know if I wanna set it up like that

Especially for when I start experimenting with verticality

[finite mirage]

Fluid and verticality is... good luck 😇😇😇

[finite mirage]

I personally use the third one, clean and modular

[surreal ingot]

That’s why God invented pumps Brikha shmeh d’Alaha

[finite mirage]

Did bro curse me in latin or smthn? 😭

[wise junco]

i truly dont understand why people struggle with fluids so much

[surreal ingot]

Aramaic, “Blessed be the name of God.” Similar to Alhamdulillah

[finite mirage]

I have never faced any problems, i just go with the flos (pun intended)

[surreal ingot]

I just unnecessarily stack pumps on the pipe and delete whatever I don’t need

Except Bob, Bob stays

[grave burrow]

Agreed. I love going crazy with screw factories!

[green fiber]

its mostly when you go near the limit of mk 2 pipes and dont know how to make them act nice

[grave cove]

Is there a way to have clean mk1 pipe skin on a mk2 ? mk2 look so ugly imo

[earnest condor]

No, mk2 has its own clean skin.

[grave cove]

yeah, but it's ugly and not as clean as mk1's

[earnest condor]

If you want to use just mk1's, use the shortest mk2 possible and immediately split the pipe into mk1s.

[grave cove]

mk1 is smooth

[earnest condor]

Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.

[grave cove]

yeah, I prefer mk1's smoothness over mk2 skin

[floral sparrow]

This will probably come off as a dumb question, but what can I say to my friend to get him to look at the MAM? We've been playing a world for a few sessions and he seems to be having a good time building some cosmetic stuff but whenever I tell him he should take a look at he doesn't really acknowledge me

[earnest condor]

Are you the world host?

[floral sparrow]

Nah, I have my own world so we figured he should be host for his first playthrough

[earnest condor]

Then you have no leverage 🤷‍♂️

[wise junco]

why do you need him to look at it?

[wild phoenix]

There are MARK TWO pipes?????

[wise junco]

yep

[earnest condor]

Phase 3.

[floral sparrow]

Trying to encourage him to explore the mechanics. We're at tier 3 now. A lot of what he mentions wanting/thinking would be neat is unlockable in there

[wise junco]

all you can do is keep telling him

[grave burrow]

Another person of culture I see

[earnest condor]

I mean, if I may be blunt...
If you have to force your friend to acknowledge you, they aren't your friend. 🤷‍♂️

[wild phoenix]

To be fair

It is that persons game

[wise junco]

plus, he has to experience at his own pace

[leaden turret]

bury mk.2 pipe inside something else, use fake mk.1 pipe

[wild phoenix]

But cliping

[floral sparrow]

Uh, thanks for the insightful advice

[earnest condor]

I said nothing about "they must look at MAM" this is about acknowledging what the other person has said so they feel acknowledged. Whether the party complies with what is being said or not is irrelevant.

[floral sparrow]

Yeah, I shouldn't have asked it lol. I meant it more innocently—I'm just excited about showing him stuff and wanted an unlockable functionality to sell it to him with lol. Good to know my best friend of 18 years isn't my friend though

[earnest condor]

...

[green fiber]

not acknowledging or ignoring you still isnt nice

we dont know anything about your relation to your friend

so naturally, we can only assume

[floral sparrow]

Or not assume

[cold berry]

I'll assume whatever I please

I'm not paying attention to this conversation but I will assume as I want to thank you very much

[floral sparrow]

Fair enough

[green fiber]

my 2 cents: if your friend doesnt bother looking or trying then you shouldnt bother anymore either

[wise junco]

in this episode of AITA.... maybe

[green fiber]

and next time they ask about something where MAM may be the answer just feign ignorance even if you know

[cold berry]

I want to play this with people but have no friends into this shit lol. Maybe I gotta make friends who are into this.

I'll go to the local autism support group. ||I have Autism and ADHD I'm allowed to make this joke. But I wouldn't go because they're ABA I think lol||

[woven sundial]

there should be a vc for ppl grinding

[earnest condor]

Not moderatable.

[green fiber]

VCs were yeeted cause nobody wants to moderate em

[leaden turret]

send them screenshots of stuff.

it's in the game™️

[leaden turret]

grinding is for nightclubs, this is satisfactory

[woven sundial]

o they jus gotta get a voice recog bot that can report things

[earnest condor]

No.

[leaden turret]

go build one

[woven sundial]

alr done it

[earnest condor]

Now buy CSS and force them to use your bot.

[junior laurel]

That is gross and ewww and no

[leaden turret]

I don't think we want roblox players in charge of css, given how skeevy roblox's reputation is.

-# yes I'm aware there's a CS studio that bought a roblox game, different studio is different studio.

[green fiber]

lmao

[woven sundial]

bru

jus cus im playin roblox dont mean nothin

[green fiber]

marv that was mean even by your standards lol

[earnest condor]

What do you mean? Roblox is a great place to meet kids.

I mean... place for kids to meet.

[woven sundial]

lol

[junior laurel]

The idea of voice recognition bit for vc is vile

[zenith pecan]

🤮

[junior laurel]

Hey buddy I think you found the line... please step back from it

[leaden turret]

that wasn't mean by my standards.

iiiiif I thought it was mean, I wouldn't have typed it.

[green fiber]

also frankly with how big the server is i dont think VC is that feasible.
to me tbh the game is one of those where you'd hop in in a smaller private server

[woven sundial]

actually thats pretty fair

[leaden turret]

considering how much assholery slides by unabated in text chat before mods are able to respond, voice chat in this server would be a monumentally bad idea.

[green fiber]

and even then, the (automatic) reports would have to be checked

[woven sundial]

idk im in a small community that has dedicated grinding vc for it and i was thinking they could add it here

[leaden turret]

at least with text chat people have to think before they speak.

[green fiber]

key difference: smaller community

[woven sundial]

yeah i see it now

[green fiber]

this server alone has at least 73k online users.

[wild phoenix]

Is it worth it to have coal power at 250% or should I just make a lot at 100%

[woven sundial]

my brains on like 0.1% capacity honestly was not thought through

[green fiber]

if you can supply the coal and water and have shards to spare, sure, go for it

[leaden turret]

overclock coal miners, build moar generators

[woven sundial]

create 1M W with biomass generators

[wild phoenix]

I could

[leaden turret]

@green fiber see now case in point I just thought of something mean and didn't type it

[woven sundial]

i advise you dont

[green fiber]

good.

[wild phoenix]

#screenshots message I could

[leaden turret]

excessive builds with biomass generators aren't really feasible because unlike minecraft, there's no way to automate large-scale mob farming

[wild mural]

can you awesome sink uranium fuel rods?

[woven sundial]

well you could do it other ways that are feasible just such a massive waste of time that i dont even think someone would want to do that by getting paid

[grave cove]

Which is sad, i'd love Satisfactory getting a creature update.
It's all mechanical stuff in satisfactory, sadge

[wild phoenix]

Hey man 20$ is 20$

[woven sundial]

not even going to comment because any joke i make will get me timed out

[earnest condor]

Factory game being mechanical in nature? 👀

I am SHOCKED.
Shooketh, even.

[leaden turret]

checks game

mechanicals in a natural environment, seems legit.

[fiery violet]

Can someone please make a satisfactory mod that allows you to parry enemies attacks🥺
-# Like ultrakill parry

[hard wolf]

So rain causes the machines to rust, and introduces a repair mechanic, right? :3c

[green fiber]

It also now hydrates you

[earnest condor]

Farming being added with rainy season.

[green fiber]

Starfactory Valley

[hard wolf]

Automated mycelium finally?

[earnest condor]

Can dig irrigation trenches and plant things to bring the deserts back to being forests.

[green fiber]

oh thats just Planet Crafter now isnt it

[earnest condor]

Rain finally explaining the random mini waterfalls in Spire Coast 😏

Water Extractors now lower the water level if you over-suck, so you need to balance extraction around how much the rain will give you back. 😉

[meager fern]

i hate when i over-suck 😏

[hard wolf]

Being able to plant trees in specific spots and building factories around them would be really nice

[earnest condor]

[wild phoenix]

Who needs trees

[leaden turret]

koalas

[hard wolf]

Me

[leaden turret]

<@&370483737957236737> koala doggos, when?

[wild phoenix]

Do I look like a koala

[leaden turret]

a dead one, yes

[wild phoenix]

Trees get in the way of progress

Save those puppies and kittens

[white dawn]

No clue how the controller support is, but Shapez 2 just came out of Early Access

[leaden turret]

check if it's steam deck certified

[fluid sapphire]

it does not have the controller support feature tag on the steam store

[white dawn]

Ah, alas. I haven't actually had a chance to play yet but it seems like controller support for that would be a lot easier than Satisfactory

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, i would think so too

[white dawn]

Maybe that's a post-1.0 goal. :)

[fluid sapphire]

people seem to be asking about it on the steam forums, safe to say it does not have controller support

[graceful tide]

does production = throughput?

for trains

[fluid sapphire]

you get out what you put in, provided the train can make the trip in time

[white dawn]

If you put x/min into a station and it's reliably emptied out with each pickup, then the receiving end is getting x/min. :). Just make sure to have sufficient buffering

[jagged nymph]

assuming that the train is able to transport the amount of items in time, yes

make sure you buffer both ends though

[graceful tide]

so if im producing 1700 iron a minute and the round trip is like 100 seconds, does that mean i get 1700 a min at station b

[jagged nymph]

anyway i stopped playing satisfactory for like a month and im hopping back on now

[fluid sapphire]

if the train is carrying enough to last the trip time plus loading and unloading time and you buffer both ends with containers, yes

[white dawn]

The round-trip time is only important in terms of defining how many freight cars you might need. As I say, if you're sending x/min and that's being reliably cleared out, you're good

[jagged nymph]

yeah, if you need high throughput over a long trip time, just add more train cars

just keep adding until its enough

or, if you dont want to add a ton of stations, you can just add more trains to the track

[fluid sapphire]

better make sure the blocks are long enough on your rail network

[wise junco]

there was already a #1038092680493801533 thread about this, but seconding everyone's commentary

[graceful tide]

well i thought that machines would loss resources because my thinking was that if i have 1700 and i want a throughput of 1400 a min, i need to produce 1700 because the machines will starve if the round trip is longer than a minute

i got a new question

thats why

[fluid sapphire]

if you need 1400, producing 1400 is enough, just gotta make sure its set up correctly

[wise junco]

tl;dr that's what i said lol

[graceful tide]

but how do machines not loss resources, I know the buffer helps but I don't think it can account for everything

[wise junco]

they do not lose resources, no

[white dawn]

Where would the resources go if they're lost? If the sending station gets cleared out with every pickup, and the receiving station gets cleared out by the time the next delivery arrives, there's no loss

[fluid sapphire]

you can account for everything, you just need to make sure that whatever amount your train is carrying in total, is enough to last the time it takes to make a full round trip, including loading and unloading times, that is all

[teal otter]

is it normal to reach a point in the game where you are too lazy to build something instead of being too overwhelmed to do it 😭

[fluid sapphire]

conveyors are like a hose, a train is a bucket

[white dawn]

A single freight car does have a max throughput, which is based on the stack size of the resource plus the round trip time

But as we said, you can always just add more cars if need be

[fluid sapphire]

what point is that

[teal otter]

yes

[leaden turret]

-# ....
-# pipes are like a hose

[violet glen]

Soo, according to Steam, 41.4% of players have completed Phase 1. But only 39.7% have built the space elevator. Fascinating.

[fluid sapphire]

quite

[white dawn]

Anyway, honestly the best way to figure that stuff out is to start playing with it

Set up some routes, see how they work, etc

[teal otter]

im like too lazy to build a supercomputer factory even when its not that hard 🙏

[jagged nymph]

very interesting...

oh yknow what i know wy

[white dawn]

The usual recommended buffering on stations is just an ISC hooked up to both sockets on the station, btw

[jagged nymph]

because before 1.0 there werent achievments

so people had saves with a spelevator already built

and loaded it up and complete phase 1 in 1.0

[violet glen]

hm, yea, probably

[teal otter]

atleast we see how much % quit the game before that point

[violet glen]

I don't think we do

[south sinew]

achievements are awful, wish they didn't exist

[white dawn]

Eh, honestly difficult to know given that the game existed for like 6 years before achievements. :)

[violet glen]

the numbers make no sense. According to it, the most achieved achievement is "Fix a blown fuse", with 53.2% of players having done it

[teal otter]

oh yeah mb 🙏 i forgot how old this game actually was

[violet glen]

So I think you have to use that achievement as 100% baseline

and basically roughly double all the percentage numbers

[white dawn]

Honestly it's kind of wild that we've got achievements as high as 50%; I'd have expected lower

[teal otter]

"and thats how i quit satisfactory after i heard the famous fuse blow sound"

[graceful tide]

now that i think about it, it only needs to handle how much it fills up. like 1700 a min would fill up more than i need like 3500 or something so it would last just that amount of time at the factory would just when it would empty it would do unload again

[violet glen]

I think "Fix a blown fuse" will be something virtually every player will have done at some point. So it's a good baseline.

[white dawn]

Either sales for 1.0 were wild (which admittedly seemed to be the case) or there's also a lot of old timers coming back to it

[wise junco]

in b4 a bunch of people say they've never blown a fuse lol

[earnest condor]

There's also all the people who don't play on Steam.

[leaden turret]

[redacted because nsfw]

[violet glen]

well, Steam won't be counting those into the percentage

[teal otter]

btw yall how much hours does an average full playthrough take

[earnest condor]

Probably like 150-200 if you're not speeding.

Especially if first run.

[teal otter]

fair

[earnest condor]

I did my last one in about 84 hours but I've played before so I don't get slowed down as much as a new person might.

[blazing parcel]

Wow I feel slow. But I do leave it running an hour every time I stop.

[earnest condor]

I force myself to never afk because it makes the game more engaging imo.

[violet glen]

I have all achievements now except that golden nut

[blazing parcel]

I’m on a console so it only does an hour.

[earnest condor]

Fair. But there is always something one can be doing.

[teal otter]

same i only pretty much afk when im handcrafting (which now barely happens) and when my resources are too low to do anything

[hard wolf]

I think I'm at >200 hours on my current playthrough

[olive wolf]

Hey there, I recently update to windows 11 and when I opened the game all my saves were gone. After doing some digging. I went to FactoryGame\Saved\SavedGames and all my old saves are there but theyre not showing up in the game. Anyone know what to do about this?

[teal otter]

uh have u backed up ur saves incase they get corrupted 🙏

i mean if u make a new world and it saves into the same folder then they might be corrupted idrk

[olive wolf]

Honestly, I forgot about my saves when wiping my computer, but they seem to have been saved by steam. But yeah, maybe that's the issue. I just wasn't sure what it could be

[teal otter]

unless the game is reading an another folder idrk

[violet glen]

Need to figure out the most efficient way to just mass farm points now, to buy the nut

[olive wolf]

That was my first thought but i just made a new world and its in the same folder so idk

[violet glen]

Maybe just sinking all my depot-containers of stuff like Turbo Motors will be enough.

[olive wolf]

I jsut put sinks on any factory that produces byproducts and leave it

[teal otter]

then that could be corruption

i had a pretty similar case but with minecraft on my old pc

[olive wolf]

fuuuuuuuck, I only had 1 world I cared about. 😭

[teal otter]

i had a few schematics saved which were large files and once i updated my pc to win 11 it didnt seem to get read

[hard wolf]

Just kick it. I'm sure it'll start working

[olive wolf]

i wish

[teal otter]

but again i have no idea maybe try renaming the .[] to smth else then back to .sav

but wait the saves were saved on steam?

[olive wolf]

yeah

Cause i didnt import them manually onto my pc and yet theyre here

[teal otter]

have u tried verifying game files in steam

[olive wolf]

yep, everything said good

[teal otter]

deleting the file and reinstalling it back

[graceful tide]

@white dawn based off what you said, does that mean the wiki for train throughput is wrong? even in a semi loaded formula it doesnt make sense(sorry for ping)

[teal otter]

oh and have u tried putting the save into satisfactory calculator map if it even loads

[olive wolf]

tried that just a min ago and it said the version was no longer supported

So idk if that means its currupted or just old

[teal otter]

yh i think it only supports 1.0+

[worn oar]

Any or all of the following: assembly director system, ballistic warp drive, AI expansion server, thermal propulsion rocket

You can also just literally install sinks everywhere you can find until it happens

[violet glen]

in sense of "least effort I can do in my safe", not in general :D

[olive wolf]

its a 1.0 world. I litterarly called 1.0 Solo lmao

[violet glen]

I just need ~600 more points from somewhere

[worn oar]

#satisfactory message

[teal otter]

no like its only on 1.1 stable and 1.2 experimental

[hard wolf]

According to the wiki, silicon circuit board has the best ingredient cost to point output ratio

[normal orbit]

copy them to the new user number

[worn oar]

We need strange alien liquid

[violet glen]

#screenshots messageI think it's going

200 points in like two minutes now :D

[olive wolf]

Well i was playing the world in 1.1 the whole time its been out so idk

[worn oar]

Not really. Each step multiplies the result, so you want the most complicated items. Silicon board simply gets you more circuit boards per input

[wise junco]

i mean, we kinda do

[normal orbit]

thats pretty much what dark matter residue is

[teal otter]

yeah no idea too then maybe other ppl know how to fix it i aint that good at working with file corruption

[worn oar]

I want to gigajuice and compress fluids

[olive wolf]

Yeah, ill do some more digging into this. Thanks for helping though!

[teal otter]

oh i mean its fine no problem

[slender oxide]

what the flark is ore purity?

i made a factory split 30 iron ores between 2 smelters before realizing it was only mining 30

[wise junco]

ore purity is a characteristic of each node

pure nodes put out the most, which is twice as much as normal, which is twice as much as impure. but they all produce the same ore, just quantity difference

[white dawn]

Pings are fine! @ me whenever you like. :). Nah, the equations at the train throughput page are fine. The point is more that it's for a single car. You can always just add more to get more throughput

[slender oxide]

how can you tell what their ore purity is before placing miners down? if that possible of course

[wise junco]

just look at the node itself. it'll say like "Iron Ore (impure)"

[white dawn]

I never bother actually doing the math; I just kind of vibe the initial freight car count and then adjust if needed one I can see the route running

[normal orbit]

yea, just build the route. let it run a few times, check thruput on the terminal. if its not enough, add more train or add more cars

[slender oxide]

ohhh okay. ty :D

[fluid sapphire]

if you are transporting a single product from A to B the math is easy though :p

[graceful tide]

appreciate it 👍

[white dawn]

Oh sure, it's not difficult math, but since "max throughput per car" depends on knowing the actual round trip time anyway, you've kind of got to set it up first anyway

[dire needle]

can someone look in screenshots channel and tell me why im pinging on left click?

[white dawn]

(of course the other way to use the equations would be to put bounds on your round trip times. "I can use 2 freight cars so long as the round-trip is less than 5 minutes," etc)

Though as I say, for myself I just vibe it and adjust as needed. :)

[earnest condor]

You alt-tabbed instead of tab-alting.
Just press alt and it should fix it.

[dire needle]

ty

[fluid sapphire]

i tend to approach it from the other end myself, rather than trying to meet the minimum requirements, just overshoot big to account for future traffic as well

... its probably known, whatever it is, but i would reckon a lot of people reading your message dont know off the cuff what the "build menu spam glitch" is

doesnt do much to describe it

[wise junco]

did i miss a message?

[fluid sapphire]

they deleted it

[wise junco]

got it

maybe thats cuz i am

[slender oxide]

same guy who lost to everyone he fought btw (except goons of course)

[wise junco]

woooooooooow

shots fired

[slender oxide]

lmao

[thick cave]

Chat what's better between fused quartz crystal alt recipe or steel rotor

[wise junco]

not my turn to say it

[normal orbit]

which ever you plan to use

[thick cave]

Why would I ever use either of those

[wise junco]

tons of reasons tbh

[normal orbit]

why not

[thick cave]

I alr make the rotors

[stark ridge]

Can somebody explain me why VIP pipe system works? https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/ookl0c/psa_variable_input_priority_vip_for_pipes_exist/

I am having difficulty wrapping my head around it. If there are pumps on both pipelines giving equal presure to both pipes why would the lower input drain faster?

[wise junco]

you'll need rotors for other reasons later in the game - totally up to you how you make them

[thick cave]

I have rotors done tho

[wise junco]

what phase are you in

[south sinew]

the higher input one does because gravity

[thick cave]

Just waiting on the framework for phase 2

[wise junco]

and how many rotos per minute ya makin?

[hard wolf]

this looks like pain 😓 #screenshots message

[normal orbit]

done is a strong word lol

[stark ridge]

Higher drains faster? I got the idea that lower drains faster from that article 🤔

[normal orbit]

lower drains faster in vip junction

or drains with priority rather

[thick cave]

8

[wise junco]

i will hold your hand as i say this @thick cave

you are nowhere near done with rotors lol

[thick cave]

I have like 2 industrial containers full of them ...

[wise junco]

... like i said ...

[fluid sapphire]

thinking in terms of what you have stockpiled is rarely useful in this game, the number of ongoing production is usually more important

[normal orbit]

how many of those eight going into motors? :p

[thick cave]

I could save them or I could rescan

[thick cave]

I'm not making motors...

[wise junco]

every single recipe comes down to playstyle

[normal orbit]

you will need to eventually

[wise junco]

indeed, and a lot of them

[slender dagger]

Anyone seen the blueprint design that you put a miner down and all the smelters go underground?

[wise junco]

no but that sounds cool af lol

[fluid sapphire]

the hell kind of jank you need to do to actually have miners inside blueprints?

[stark ridge]

sure, I realize I might be missing my common sense, but still find it quite odd that if I were to block either one of those inputs the output would still get the same amount of fluid, right? So if both pipes have equal presure anyways I why would gravity prioritize lower pipe? Woulnt they just get blended? But I do understand how to diagram there is layed out so I'm going to use it anyways even though I dont understand why it work 😄

[floral sparrow]

I wish I could place miners on foundations without the drill hole clipping making me sweat

[wise junco]

this is probably a great convo for #math-and-meta because i know it's been discussed at length there

[normal orbit]

noone really know how they work, they rely on bugged pipe behaviour and are a bit janky

[slender dagger]

I’ll throw. SS in there

[normal orbit]

you can, just gotta do some nudging and clipping

[floral sparrow]

Oh, you can avoid having the foundation in the drill area?

[normal orbit]

#screenshots message

[floral sparrow]

Oh wow, how is that accomplished?

[normal orbit]

place foundations, place miner, delete the foundation under drill and just nudge some in

[thick cave]

Phase 2 time

[latent prawn]

you can also snap a road barrier to the front of the miner if you want perfect centering

[normal orbit]

yes, but not currently on experimental :p

[latent prawn]

it took some fussing to find the snap point, but you can on experimental too

[normal orbit]

i've done it like once in the lower right corner. but its annoying a-f to do it currently

can't just shove it down the miners gullet like normal

[latent prawn]

hmmm, i guess you're right and i got lucky when i tried

[grave cove]

Anyone has that train speed per cart / per slope height screenshot ? I can't find it anymore and I wanan know the max cart / speed depending on the cart / slope height. Thx

[wise junco]

no u

we like you too

[void crescent]

yo

[wise junco]

so many bananas

[void crescent]

how many modular frames would be good to make per minute in phase 2

[wise junco]

as many as you need right now tbh

[void crescent]

phase 3 i mean

i'm making 90 atm

[wise junco]

is that working for you? if so, good! if not, make more

[void crescent]

i don't have a factory for that atm

just need more modular frames

?

[wise junco]

if need more, then make more. i made it through p3 with way less

[void crescent]

Ficsit would be proud

damn

i only have 500

[rich harbor]

I have a dumb question but if i put sth into a merger or splitter do they come out like more slowly or am i just stupid

[swift cave]

I'm noticing in 1.2 that if you instantly tap jump after slide jumping you can build up kind of ludicrous speed as long as you have enough flat ground. has this always been the case?

[void crescent]

same speed

[rich harbor]

Kk ty

[void crescent]

yes

[wise junco]

always, i believe

[swift cave]

huh, maybe I was just never tapping jump before

[void crescent]

what kind of player are you

[wise junco]

you're an amazing kitten in my life

[void crescent]

nah i mean like, do u build cleanly and focus on design? or just floating platforms? or maybe heavy on logistics

[normal orbit]

style over substance, :p

[hard wolf]

mrrp :3c

[violet glen]

so, uhm. How do i get run over by a vehicle? They all just push me along. :D

[fluid sapphire]

they go faster downhill i think

but with trucks, even flat, straight path should be fine

[void crescent]

create a track for them

[violet glen]

well yes, that's what I did.

[void crescent]

let them ride on it and walk infront

[violet glen]

yes, exactly. They just push me

Guess I'll try to find a slop to make them faster

[void crescent]

all vehicles?

[fluid sapphire]

remove some of the path nodes to make the paths more straight

[violet glen]

Well, I tried Trains, Explorer and the big Truck

[fluid sapphire]

i got my achievement with a truck on flat foundations

[void crescent]

the truck and tractor do it 100%, train doesnt

[violet glen]

finally worked with an Explorer, just build a huge ramp and made it drive down

well, now just some 400 more tickets

[fluid sapphire]

then what

[cold berry]

I have a cat or two

I think?

Maybe more, maybe less

[void crescent]

probably the nut statue wich is probably his last achievement

[fluid sapphire]

sure, but then what

game over?

[void crescent]

Just all the achievements

You're done when you feel satisfied

[wise junco]

factory

[void crescent]

I have an idea

[hearty cliff]

How do I get to Resource Ore : -167360, -145683, -1914 ?

It seems to be underground, but i do not find any entrance

[wise junco]

not sure exactly what that is, but i'd go to those coordinates in the SCIM and activate caves, probably help

[hearty cliff]

SCIM?

[wise junco]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

[void crescent]

Satisfactory calxulator interactive map

That yes

[hearty cliff]

Ah yeah i was on that page, but i do not understand where i can see the entrance to the cave

i saw that there is a cave but i do not find the entrance

[wise junco]

the entrances are marked by a thicker yellow line

[hearty cliff]

Ahhhh got it thank you!

[wise junco]

no probs!

[slender oxide]

what is a good way to automate tractors?

cuz they need fuel but like, idk how to get it to them

like, i dont wanna have to keep checking in on them to give them more fuel

i wanna have it to where its automated til i get trains

[wise junco]

usually just feed coal into the fuel port of the station

[primal obsidian]

bruh the GTNH server just got atomized

[earnest condor]

You unlock them when you need Steel.
Which needs coal.
So fuel them with the coal they are already picking up for you?

[slender oxide]

yeah but i wanna automate them for other resources

[wise junco]

so daisy chain truck fueling stations carrying coal to and fro

[slender oxide]

like for example tryign to bring resources to make versatile framework

or smartp lating

[earnest condor]

After steel is oil products.
So fuel them with the oil products they are picking up for you?

If you have one of the rare production chains that has no coal and no oil -> sure, trucks are not ideal there.

But in the overwhelming amount of scenarios, you already have the fuel on site given what is being made. 🤷‍♂️

[grave cove]

They need to add a 1.2 feature that lets you chose the in-game time even if it costs 50000000 somersloop pls lemme disable this trash night time when i'm building, for the love of god plsss...
Tired of having to command gamma 5

[wise junco]

or use the flashlight

[earnest condor]

You can build lights.

[slender oxide]

i dont have oil tho, im on phase 2

[grave cove]

xd

[grave cove]

I'm building a road track, I cant place lights in the air

Lights are good for building factories, not stuff in the wilderness sadly

[earnest condor]

Versatile Framework needs Steel Beam which needs Steel Ingot which needs Coal.

You can build lights, build your road, then delete the lights.

[slender oxide]

what about smart plating tho

[earnest condor]

Ask someone who automates Project Parts 🤷‍♂️ I haven't in all 8 years I have been playing.

[meager fern]

if you are agonizing this much over how to fuel trucks, just use a bunch of conveyor belts smh

[slender oxide]

oh okay, sorry.

[wise junco]

everything is usually within arm's reach for smart plating... if you really wanna bring in external ore, i guess, but you should be able to do it local imo

[grave cove]

I'm building the below of the road, i'm not going to place lights for the whole below for every pillar xd

[wild phoenix]

Quick I need a link to the wiki

[earnest condor]

The main use when you first get tractors is steel and fuel via coal as we said.
And it gets easier to fuel them going forward.

Using them for stuff the game assumes you already have running because it was Phase 1 stuff is just a headache you are causing yourself 😭

[wise junco]

seriously... is the flashlight not sufficient?

[wise junco]

satisfactory.wiki.gg

[earnest condor]

Blashlight*

[wild phoenix]

Alr thanks

[grave cove]

Well not for building a road xd
it's like such a small radius

Feels like playing resident evil

[wild phoenix]

It’s broken 😭

[wise junco]

i... am not sure what to say to that one

yeah looks like wiki may be down

[slender oxide]

i saw we needed only 50 smart plating from the beginning, so i figured if i just crafted what i needed at the hub i would be fine

but then phase 2 commenced and i realized that wasnt the case

so i focused on getting other things, like trying to automate basic resources. each node i ended up allocating to a specific resource

1 iron node for plates, 1 iron node for rods, 1 iron node for screws, ect

hence why im trying to automate tractors for other resources that arent coal, as i have wasted all of the ones near me.

[jagged nymph]

You also need smart plating to make the later spelevator parts

[wise junco]

that's a noble effort, but you will have much more effective transport methods coming in the next couple phases for doing that

[grave cove]

I love the game but the only actual downside I don't like is how long it takes to unlock mk3 blueprint, it limits us for no reason and it's kinda unfortunate imo.

[slender oxide]

yeah i know. someone told me about trains

[wise junco]

trains absolutely simplify what you're trying to do

[meager fern]

tractors are basically there to be ignored, and then be fancy when you barely need them anymore 😔

[wise junco]

i believe the improved pathing in 1.2 may make them better and more relevant, but i haven't played exp to say personally

[slender oxide]

mkay, i'll start my 3rd deconstructing effort rn

starting to realize my hub location is in an awful spot. can i just delete it and rebuild it somewhere else?

[wise junco]

sure can

[slender oxide]

aight

[slender oxide]

does the same apply for the space elevator?

[wise junco]

yep! can't make two of either of them, but can deconstruct and reconstruct at will

[slender oxide]

yaey

good to know

[earnest condor]

Tractors are amazing and anyone who outright believes they suck is just a terrible driver 🤷‍♂️

[wise junco]

i just have never cared much for the ground vehicles in satisfactory, tbh - passenger or cargo

[earnest condor]

Drone guy?

[wise junco]

train. choo choo m-fer

[earnest condor]

Would technically class that as a ground vehicle given it cannot fly 😂

[wise junco]

okay, listen, you got me there

[earnest condor]

🙃

If you want to subscribe to OnlyTrains that is a valid approach.
I just personally feel you are missing out on what the other options have to offer and the beauty of using all 3 in concert.

[wise junco]

personally, I didn't like managing fuel flow for truck stations

just felt overcomplicated for me for what they brought to the table. i've used 'em, just didn't like it

[meager fern]

belts do everything i need, and so much more

[mortal ginkgo]

its just easier to make skyrails is what they mean me thinks

[wise junco]

no. i am absolutely not a sky railer 🤣

[mortal ginkgo]

its the same deal for drone bois, fuel them all in where they are all arriving

[meager fern]

fun fact, there are more planes in the ocean than there are submarines in the sky

[earnest condor]

As previously said, most production lines already have fuel options built in.
People just choose to not see them 😭

[wise junco]

hey, i can respect anyone using trucks/tractors. i hope to give them a better shot in 1.2

[earnest condor]

I have far more trucks in my world than I do trains.

[mortal ginkgo]

you definitely should, they are much easier now. I mean they are really a entry level version of trains with the new road system.

just give them all coal here and there

[earnest condor]

Tractors get a fun little egg in 1.2 as you can path them through Power Towers.

My only issue is every time they have been made more casual-friendly, we lose some of the more powerful things they could previously do.

[main hamlet]

trying to use the satisfactory calculator site but when i try to plan out my plants for end output it always underclocks the previous machines to the bare minimum. anyway to edit the layout so i can actually set up the outputs i have existing?

[mortal ginkgo]

We might get some back. But I will just say that the "recording system" had to go. It was just ultra annoying.

[earnest condor]

Use Tools instead. It doesn't tell you how to clock anything.
It tells you the total clock amount needed, and how you divide that is up to you.

[true mulch]

Sorry for the non-answer, but that site's calculator isn't very good. See Sevrahn's answer

[main hamlet]

ah ok, ty

[meager fern]

if the recording system is the "main" problem with trucks right now, i have no hope for 1.2's changes

[jagged nymph]

why is my game so stuttery 😭

[meager fern]

i personally had fun with the recording system

[earnest condor]

Heaviest of disagrees on it being annoying as it mostly came down to "people suck at driving."

But I doubt we are ever going back to being able to unload into 4 truck stops simultaneously.

[true mulch]

Open a #1038092680493801533 thread with your specs

[lusty ferry]

if you dismantle a hard drive ficsit structure does it delete the harddrive?

it seems that it does

[earnest condor]

It won't let you until you take the drive out.

[lusty ferry]

i swear to god i dismantled one crate without taking the drive out

[earnest condor]

SWEAR TO MEEEEEE

[meager fern]

dont lie to god

[mortal ginkgo]

I used a lot of tractors with old system, having beans directly at the road I want to make isn't exactly my fault.

The fact that also you cant edit anything in the system was a big ultra no no for many and it is really justified.

You got a long recorded road where you want to update a lil bit of a road segment? Say good bye to the whole recorded path.

[true mulch]

There's a few spare drives, even if

[earnest condor]

I mean...
Crash sites won't let you delete them until you take the drive out.

[solar ivy]

If you unlock it first I think you can? Also if there's stuff behind the door slot

[mortal ginkgo]

You cant. Its impossible.

[lusty ferry]

oke

[meager fern]

you can get rid of the surrounding stuff, but ive never been able to get rid of the actual thing holding the hard drive

[earnest condor]

How are you updating dirt?

[earnest condor]

Drives are infinite now.

You can just buy them.

[meager fern]

infinite disappointment, great

[mortal ginkgo]

Wat.

[earnest condor]

Roads are made of dirt.
How are you updating a section of dirt?

[mortal ginkgo]

This is.. silly to ask?

[true mulch]

Excluding that

[mortal ginkgo]

Are we trolling now? Was this disucssion not serious?

[meager fern]

are you avin' a giggle?

[mortal ginkgo]

no u

[harsh cape]

i love nuclear nobelisks

ive been so happy ever since automating them

[jagged nymph]

man i stopped playing for a month, i dont even remember what my next project was

[earnest condor]

Are you.. choosing to build roads and then having a problem with the choice you made and then saying the devs needed to alter the entire game to accommodate the choice you made instead of just.. driving on the dirt? 🤔

[meager fern]

not even a guffaw

[jagged nymph]

oh yeah i forgot about my screw river

[mortal ginkgo]

Plans can change, rebuilding can occur. It was not a problem before. But when someone expands or make a change, the road also needs to change.

You are trying to justify a borked system by putting the blame on the playerbase.

Like it or not, the recording system is ultra horrendous and always will. Devs agreed so it is getting changed.

Funny enough, I loved recording but I am ready to let go.

Saying "people suck at driving" while the vehicles are really not the best Need for Speed controls is also... meh.

[jagged nymph]

i think having both options would be nice tbh, especially since they do still have the system for preexisting paths

but i do like the new system much better personally

[earnest condor]

Don't think it had to "always will be horrendous", but this is the pivot they made so I will use it to it's full, but limited, potential.

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, I was so good at recording paths that I could make them do hops, stunts and all cool stuff.

But I will not say "well its playerbase that sucks doh"

The system in the end, sucked.

[earnest condor]

Disagree. But moot.

[jagged nymph]

i wouldnt say it sucked

[mortal ginkgo]

no u

[jagged nymph]

but the new ones certainly much better

[mortal ginkgo]

it had its cool moments, it had its freedom, but it came with a lot of prices

[jagged nymph]

yeah

what ill say, is that the new system made me actually want to use trucks

[meager fern]

they should've doubled down. recording train and drone paths

[mortal ginkgo]

the new one also has issues but now it is something one can improve on

[mortal ginkgo]

ok Canada, time to go bed.

you are acting strange as usual

[meager fern]

its 6 pm and ive had 2 large monster energy drinks, theres no sleep for at least 6 hours

[earnest condor]

I actually use drone to "record" train paths sometimes.

[jagged nymph]

huh

[earnest condor]

Put up 2 ports. Watch the path the drone takes from A to B as it will have the most straight lines possible while trying to keep it short.

Build train line to match drone flight path where possible.

[unkempt blade]

Convenience but at such a terrible cost... we'll never know true freedom of 24x7 automated factory cart skatepark routes again

[jagged nymph]

so sad 😢

[earnest condor]

@jagged nymph make sense?

[meager fern]

thats actually kinda smort

[jagged nymph]

couldnt you just... build a rail in a straight line?

like why do you need to see a drone go straight to build something straight

[earnest condor]

Yes but where does that straight line go?

[jagged nymph]

to your destination?

[earnest condor]

I think you're not grasping how far apart these 2 locations are.

[meager fern]

a350, you are banned from cooking. leave it to sevrahn

[earnest condor]

Like Blue Crater to RD.

[jagged nymph]

set a marker on the map at infinite range

[earnest condor]

Optimal path unless doing total skytrain is either to go up then over, or over then up.

Send a drone.
You immediately know which path is shorter/faster.

So yes, "straight lines" but when there are like 4 options of how to route to the destination, drone can help you optimize the path.

[meager fern]

if its a straight line how are there 4 options 🤔 a straight line is a straight line. 1 point to the other

a-----------------------------b

[earnest condor]

See initial about "unless total skytrain."

[worthy shadow]

I just somehow killed an alpha hog with a Xeno-zaper!!

[violet glen]

Meanwhile I put 4 nukes on some hatchers today, and they survived

[worthy shadow]

a xeno-zaper and like 50 nuts.

[worthy shadow]

appropriate force, them things can go to hell, standing in the way of efficiency

[slender oxide]

how do i get rid of this like, meteorite thingy ontop of a coal vein?

[wise junco]

explosives

[worthy shadow]

big boom.

[violet glen]

or mine it? Depending on which one exactly you mean

[slender oxide]

oh

its like a really big boulder ontop of it

[violet glen]

if it's gray and has cracks, need to blow it up

[wise junco]

if you cannot mine it, it needs to go boom

[slender oxide]

yeah it does

how do i kaboom

[wise junco]

explosives

[dense violet]

research bombs

[violet glen]

sulfur mam tree

[slender oxide]

o

omg i found lizard doggo

how do i befriend doggo

[worthy shadow]

BERRY

[violet glen]

they like berries

[earnest condor]

Shoot it in the face.

[dense violet]

you should block whoever thumb downed you so they can never be wrong again (on this issue)

[slender oxide]

lmao

[earnest condor]

They must be given a chance to see the error of their ways.

[slender oxide]

i will take it into account sir

[grave cove]

Guys is there a way to quickly measure distances above 40 meters in the game ? I wanna place block signals every 100m to 150m but i'm not sure of how to do that accurately

[sick falcon]

whats the point of trucks having such high capacity when truck stations cant unload and load fast enough to take advantage of it

[green fiber]

longer distance transport

but for that the truck would need to remain parked under the station for longer

the longer the distance between stations / the higher the throughput, the more the truck needs to be filled up.

[meager fern]

just run a belt, and wait for it to saturate 🤔

[green fiber]

whatever really.
its preference

[earnest condor]

For example, if you have say the mk4 belt.
You can unload 960/min.

Which means a Truck, with 48 slots, can have a route time of 5 minutes for things that stack to 100.
Whereas the Tractor can handle that only at 2.6 minutes.

[terse kindle]

Is it possible to add the increased space elevator quota to a pre-existing server? One that existed before 1.2 I mean.

Or is that only for new saves?

[dense violet]

huh?
you can feed 2 belts in to a station and get 2 belts out at the other.

[sick falcon]

yea at the distances you need for that to unload 48 stacks before the truck completes a single cycle just use a train no?

[dense violet]

no? put another truck on the route

they are very different choices. Trucks benefit from needed very little infrastructure, you just have to plan your factories around using natural paths for hte most part

a lot of people aren't capable or willing to do that though

[earnest condor]

If you subscribe to OnlyTrains that is fine. And a perfectly valid way to play the game.

Trucks are very potent when used properly though.

[slender oxide]

bruh why wont my tractor go? i already recorded a path, and the truck wont move despite it having fuel, and me already having set the path to it

[earnest condor]

1.1 or 1.2?

[slender oxide]

newest version so yeah prolly 1.2

[dense violet]

so you placed coloured 'rails' down for hte path?

[earnest condor]

If you can has red flag in the top left corner, proceed to #satisfactory-experimental
-# Do not pass Go, do not collect 200 Coupons 😏

[sick falcon]

newest version is 1.1

[slender oxide]

oh

[sick falcon]

1.2 is coming out soon

[earnest condor]

1.2 is available if you wish though.

[sick falcon]

did you load the path into the tractor after recording it

[slender oxide]

well i didnt know newest public version was 1.1

yeah i loaded the path already

[dense violet]

prob best to make a post in #1038092680493801533 with images then

[earnest condor]

1.2 is available to the public, it is just on the Exp branch of the game.

Can highly recommend just switching now tbh 🤷‍♂️
There's only one massively inconvenient bug and it is fixed by save/reload so it's not an issue on the rare occassion it happens.

[slender oxide]

done

[sick falcon]

whats the bug

[earnest condor]

Stack size stuff.

More detail would be a #satisfactory-experimental conversation.

[hard wolf]

y'all have any suggestions for good nuclear plant alts?

and maybe the not having access to 40k SAM problem other than having to sink plutonium rods?

[wild phoenix]

Man went hard drive hunting for an hour

Got absolute garbage

All either late game stuff or like « oh mix the two metals the furthest from each other to make a marginally better amount of pipes »

[earnest condor]

What is your end goal production with nuclear going to be?

[hard wolf]

use all of the uranium

[earnest condor]

Like are you planning to burn Uranium Rods and then just sink Plutonium Rods for a waste-free system?

Or carry it all the way to Ficsonium?

[hard wolf]

as much ficsonium as I can, but I have to sink 10 out of 30.55 plutonium rods/m to limit the plant to needing 6k SAM. that's with 84 sloops

[wild phoenix]

Anyone know how I can avoid fall damage without jetpack?

[hard wolf]

parachute

[wild phoenix]

I do not have that

I am poor

[earnest condor]

Then you're already taking a different path than the one I know.
Prior to 1.0, nuclear was mainly:

• All Uranium on the map
• Using all Uranium-based alts
• 50.4 Rods
• Use all base Plutonium recipes
• 22.4 Rods

So you having 30+ Plutonium Rods means you're planning something different.

[earnest condor]

Parachute is pre-Jetpack though?

[hard wolf]

you can research it under the mycelium tree in the mam

[wild phoenix]

Good sir I am literally at tractors

[earnest condor]

Good sir you could have had Parachute before building the Space Elevator if you wished 🤷‍♂️

[wild phoenix]

Hmmm

Where do you get mycelium tho

[earnest condor]

Blue mushrooms.

[pure fiber]

Caves

There's a lot in the giant caves

[wild phoenix]

Hmmm

[earnest condor]

Which starting zone did you select?

[wild phoenix]

The green one

Hold on I think I might have a pic

[earnest condor]

There are 2 green ones 😉

[pure fiber]

The beginner and the advanced one

[wild phoenix]

Beginner

Why Tf won’t it let me say cube

[pure fiber]

Caves and the certain plants with a chainsaw

[hard wolf]

I built it around the most efficient alts I could find to stretch the uranium as far as possible, so infused uranium cell, uranium fuel unit, fertile uranium, instant plutonium cell, and plutonium fuel unit. I wish there were ficsonium alts :c

[wild phoenix]

Yh it is that cave

Got my space elevator right on top

[earnest condor]

Yeah if you're going to Ficsonium you use all alternates afaik.

[hard wolf]

there isn't enough SAM output to turn all of the plutonium waste into ficsonium :c

or sloops

[terse kindle]

Is it possible to add the increased space elevator quota to a pre-existing server? One that existed before 1.2 I mean.

[earnest condor]

Even with how I like to build, I don't think I will ever do Ficsonium.

[earnest condor]

I believe that world modifiers are for newly-made worlds only.

But asking in #satisfactory-experimental would get you a better answer.

[hard wolf]

I could also use the excess 10 plutonium rods/m to power the drones that collect the uranium and overflow off of that

[earnest condor]

Nuclear Drones/Trucks are sooooo good.

Like, if you put a stack of nuclear rods in your person truck/explorer (if you enjoy having one like I do) you probably will never have to refuel it... ever. 😄

[shrewd palm]

something like 0.0001 rods/min

[earnest condor]

Single plutonium rod is 5 and a half hours 😂

[fathom yacht]

i just completed phase 5

felt so happy

[earnest condor]

Now the true game begins for you 💛

[shrewd palm]

the tutorial starts once you get mk6 belts and mk3 miners

[earnest condor]

Eh.

[shrewd palm]

and it finishes when you get phase 5 done

[earnest condor]

Personally I divide the game as follows:

T0-2 (Phase 1) = Onboarding
T3-4 (Phase 2) = Prologue
T5-6 (Phase 3) = Tutorial
T7-8 (Phase 4) = Game Begins
T9 (Phase 5) = Midgame

Game starts when you have the mk5 belt imo.

[shrewd palm]

true

[nimble linden]

Does anyone have a mid game save i can download, cannot be bothered to go throguh that all again

[fathom yacht]

I agree

[shrewd palm]

once you can get 600/min on a belt you're basically good

[earnest condor]

Also I can provide reasoning behind why I group things as such if people wish.

[earnest condor]

This is funny in the context of it coming right after how I define midgame 😄