satisfactory

[ornate saffron]

ya, Vanilla is your best bet lol. Glad you got it working though.

#off-topic-tech are great vualts of information and very helpfull if you ever need help

[fathom pier]

great i have 8 times the amount of minimum ram stated in the system requirements and i have the bare minimum graphics card

[cursive topaz]

Yea honestly it deserves a native port

[fathom pier]

Mods on mac arent supported?

[tired axle]

I only need one drone when delivering goods from one port to another, right?

like back and forth

[fluid sapphire]

yeah?

[verbal dagger]

I just discovered hypertube cannons and they are AWESOOOOOME! 😆😆😆

[fathom pier]

yea but u can add a second one if u need more throughput

[glad carbon]

Flying out to the png planet for fun

[fluid sapphire]

if you want more fetchers you need more ports though

each port can only host one drone (home port)

[worn oar]

I cannot for the life of me find a circuit board-containing crash site

[fluid sapphire]

pretty sure i saw some on the cliffs on the west coast of blue crater (if not that one in particular there are definitely some in the area)

[cursive topaz]

The game isn’t supported so mods definitely are not

[fathom pier]

i am pretty sure u could do something with parallels

[cursive topaz]

Oh and tbh this game has so much to do idk how you could add mods like it’s crazy, I played Astroneer before i played this game and I have noticed my inefficiency’s from one game’s efficiency it’s kinda weird lol

[fathom pier]

or CrossOver i think

[cursive topaz]

I use crossover so it’s playable, and not a slideshow

[fathom pier]

hahah i've got it working on arch with mods too so win win

[cursive topaz]

I’ll beat the game before I add mods

[unkempt blade]

yeah! vanilla the way the allknowing and benevolent creators intended the game to be played!

[ornate saffron]

Efficiency means different things depending on the person and context.
First and formost have fun

easiest way to do that is build what you need now and dont worry about the future. The map is huge there is always more resources

[cursive topaz]

Cus like I said this game is a wild well of content

[ornate saffron]

Ive heard good things

[cursive topaz]

Yea I like my organization tho lol

[fathom pier]

uh i use mods like permaday nothing much

[unkempt blade]

heresy! sacrilege!

[cursive topaz]

I might look into it for qol mods just small tweaks yk

[fathom pier]

night is bad

[cursive topaz]

Or fixes/improvments

No content additives

[unkempt blade]

why? use more lights 😄

[ornate saffron]

@tawny tusk Crossove r works well on mac apperently

#satisfactory message

[fathom pier]

i use the fusion power plant aka the sun

[supple canopy]

heeey you're back

[ornate saffron]

yes sir! im back baby. the system works

[fathom pier]

i like how i get better performance on arch linux rather than windows

[ornate saffron]

Oh, thats good to know! ive been testing Linus distros. Ill try that next. Any specific distro in the Arch family you suggest?

[earnest condor]

I like how Windows could be the best operating system, but they use their near-monopoly status to just.. never work on their code 😭

[fathom pier]

i use vanilla arch hahahah

[ornate saffron]

perfect. hows the ease of use. do i have to go full nerd?

[earnest condor]

Never go full nerd.

[unkempt blade]

if they were going to work on Windows then what would there be left for copilot to do?

[fathom pier]

nopee actually its very easy, heroic game launcher uses wine in the backend so if the os is okay it should work well

and you can install the satisfactory mod loader app image too to load mods

its surprisingly easy

i use the epic games version btw

[cosmic crest]

found a bug in game where do i report it

[ornate saffron]

thanks i made a note of all that. ill try it when i have the time ^_^

[raven axle]

Satisfactory Questions

You can send Questions, Feedback, Suggestions, and Bug Reports
https://questions.satisfactorygame.com
<3 @fluid sapphire

[fathom pier]

nppp

[supple canopy]

here, but check if it wasn't reported before posting https://questions.satisfactorygame.com/

[lean fossil]

is it possible to shorten the hard drive time.

[fluid sapphire]

probably with mods

[lean fossil]

EAAAGUGHH

[fluid sapphire]

otherwise when you find one, plop down a mam and start decrypting immediately

avoid having a massive backlog

[lean fossil]

yeah i have half of the worlds hard drives bruh

[fluid sapphire]

you know what they say, failing to plan is planning to fail

[ornate saffron]

Although you can place a mam anywhere and they dont need power. so when I find a HD place a MAM and research it immediate then disassemble the mam

[lean fossil]

Jetpack glitchin all over the place helped

[supple canopy]

if it's your first playthrough you're not missing out, no need to minmax every ressource, don't FOMO

[unkempt blade]

I've heard building a factory cart skate park while you wait makes it go faster

[lean fossil]

"heard"

[ornate saffron]

I can confirm this

[unkempt blade]

see, I just heard it from Beef

[verbal dagger]

I just exited a hypertube and hit some equipment on the way out and took a big health loss. I thought, hey, make a jelly landing pad to absorb the shock, but thought it would kinda suck because then I would have to swim my way out. Nope! Was going so fast on exit that I went right through the jelly lol

[lean fossil]

"heard"

[lean fossil]

js put it into a wall

[verbal dagger]

why?

[lean fossil]

You don't die if you just get zoomed into a wall I think

[fathom pier]

you can always try

[lean fossil]

I mean I'm not dying when going 900000 mph when I hit my hypertube support

[fluid sapphire]

yeah you can just put a wall after the exit for a quick plonk to slow you down

[verbal dagger]

first time if I'm at full health, sure, but if I don't have full health, gonna die

[lean fossil]

put a support and go into it

like js one little bit of support

[verbal dagger]

I don't know what you mean

[lean fossil]

hypertube support

[ornate saffron]

BUT a hyper sonic space Raptor would be impossible to run from

[fathom pier]

i am pretty sure there is an easter egg if you press alt + f4 that makes it 4 minutes instead

[lean fossil]

Piss off

[fathom pier]

only works for 1 hard drive per hour though

[lean fossil]

I'm not in my sixties jesus christ

[verbal dagger]

I have no idea what you're talking about, and using the u jelly landing pad works fine, because I go right through the jelly on the exit of the hyper tube. I don't have to swim through it.

[glacial totem]

Will I miss those days?

[shy temple]

What is funny is I use a software where there is a hotkey command that is actually alt f4

[lean fossil]

I....it's your choice to use that I guess...

[fathom pier]

don't let em in on the secret we can use alt f4 for ourselves

[verbal dagger]

Yes, it works fine, and I can show you why it is actually ideal.

[unkempt blade]

kids today just don't appreciate classic comedy

[latent prawn]

ehh, the world is pretty tame with a couple of rough spots

[lean fossil]

I GET THE ALT F4 JOKE
it's just....rahrahroonierehanonierahlootie...got it?

[glacial totem]

I got fucked up by a couple hyperhogs earlier

[lean fossil]

use a nuke

[latent prawn]

have you met the big spiders yet?

[fathom pier]

are factory carts Non GMO?

[glad carbon]

I keep getting attacked by the 30 big spiders near the swamp area my factory is located in

[unkempt blade]

it's certainly no rick roll but it's still classic gamer humor

[latent prawn]

if you build a storage container near their spawn point, it'll suppress their spawn

[glacial totem]

met them? Yes. Killed them? No

[lean fossil]

The sad thing is nobody believes it anymore though

[glad carbon]

Nah dw the spawns are supressed when i re purposed the entire biome into a factory

[lean fossil]

I met the gigantic ones

[lean fossil]

KEYWORD "ENTIRE"

[fathom pier]

turn on arachnophobia mode

[glad carbon]

Yes

[lean fossil]

holy shit

[glad carbon]

I sat there, clearing trees, and killing spiders, for 20 hours straight

With nothing but explosives

[unkempt blade]

if you use the explorer it goes faster

[glad carbon]

Full inv of explosives tho

Trust

[fathom pier]

i would imagine u use factory carts for exploration

[unkempt blade]

carts are clearly the best vehicle but they don't run over trees and spiders as good as the explorer 🙁

[faint willow]

Got 2 level 2 miners on normal nodes, triple-overclocked, so 300 per minute.
Trying to set up a smelting array that'll be my main hub for screws, rotors, reinforced plates, etc.
Trying to decide if I should do 8 or 10 smelters to feed into all those constructors, since I know logistics is going to be the only hiccup in this.

[supple canopy]

building near spawn points has always been inconstitent for me, sometimes powered machines works sometimes not... The most reliable way is to pave the spawn point with foundations

[fathom pier]

petition to make a nuclear powered factory cart with 5 times the speed

[glad carbon]

Hell yes

[ornate saffron]

Pretty sure its power by a micro black hole

[fathom pier]

yea but no 200 kmh speeds

[latent prawn]

try storage containers, they have a high suppression factor for one reason or another

[unkempt blade]

I keep telling Jason we need a mk2 cart but so far he hasn't come through

[fathom pier]

what if nuclear powered carts could fly around the map

[ornate saffron]

A cut out on the back for all the Pioneers back slot options.

Parachute
Jetpack
Hoverpack

[shy temple]

Agreed. My jetpack pokes out the back of cart. Let me use it.

[unkempt blade]

Yeah this would be great. Driving over jump pads only give me a brief illusion of flight

[fathom pier]

we need permanent fight

[shy temple]

Flyable drones. Or better, jet powered dirigibles

[ornate saffron]

give me my steam punk Zeppelins and ill make Laputa

[unkempt blade]

Ahh yes, the hoverpacks of the 1930s. Truly a simpler time

[supple canopy]

pulse nobelisk on cart still works?

[fathom pier]

zoopable blueprints fr

[red fog]

can I put walls anyhow on the side of the ramp, so it looks like a railing?

[fluid sapphire]

ramp walls

[red fog]

yeah, but this just looks like covering the side of the ramp. i meant something as an alternative to the industiral railing? modern railing doesnt adapt to the angle... same as barriers

[fluid sapphire]

you could try to nudge inwards to clip it into the ramp

[red fog]

ok, thanks

[next salmon]

gng for the past WEEK my friend has been saying I’M selling for not being able to join when THE WHOLE TIME the session has been SINGLEPLAYER

[final ore]

remember to exploit as much oil as you can for the authentic american experience

[glad carbon]

I love that you sent this at the same time that im exploiting oil activly

[final ore]

for the love of the game

[glad carbon]

The amount of pipes

[fathom pier]

recreate the strait of hormuz in satisfactory

[glad carbon]

This lowk looks like something lets game it out would build but orginised

[faint willow]

I'm torn between making two jokes, both involve laying pipe. One of them is that there's an argument you could make where you can put this game in your resume as a pipelayer.

[fathom pier]

add nukes in the water to make a more realistic experience

[leaden turret]

we already had the ever given on community highlights in 2021

[fathom pier]

i need to find that footage

[glad carbon]

#screenshots SO MUCH PIIIIIPEEEEEEE

And no im not fixing that one pipe that is slightly sticking out

[faint willow]

Oh come on, someone's gotta make the joke

[leaden turret]

• https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/dated/2021-03-30/
• https://communityhighlights.satisfactory.video/dated/2021-04-13/

[fathom pier]

oooh

EVERGREEN YES

[glad carbon]

I actually ran out of plastic building these pipes

There has got to be no way

[ornate saffron]

Been there

[glad carbon]

Funny thing is, is that not even like 100m away i have a plastic setup making me like 400 a min

[fluid sapphire]

how many containers as a buffer?

[glad carbon]

Buffer? I need that?

[supple canopy]

and how many DD

[fluid sapphire]

no i mean like, you produce it, and before uploading, presumably store some?

thats the typical way to set up depots

[supple canopy]

if you're making less than 240/min/DD yes a buffer is better

[fluid sapphire]

the more storage you have the better peak usage coverage

[glad carbon]

Oh, i dont have a DD for plastic :p

I jd grab it manually

[fluid sapphire]

well, how much do you store

[glad carbon]

4 industrial storage

[fluid sapphire]

thats what i mean by buffer

looks like you could use more then 😄

[faint willow]

#screenshots message

The overwhelming amount of happy brain chemicals I get from playing this dumbass game is like crack cocaine

[fluid sapphire]

lookin crisp

[cold berry]

Never think about pipes

[quartz salmon]

Guys is caterium computer a good alternate?

[fluid sapphire]

depends on location

[earnest condor]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

[cold berry]

I like crystal computer

[fluid sapphire]

i like it and use it

[quartz salmon]

Western beaches is where I’d use it

On that one node

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, if you have caterium nearby, its great ofc

[quartz salmon]

My alternative is electrode circuit board so ya prolly should just do the computer

[fluid sapphire]

pairs well i guess, lots of oil nearby

[cold berry]

Wait hold up. Someone was saying that trains are too hard because you need blueprints and shit yesterday, then talked about their belt highway blueprint

The fuck they mean then

I just realized that

[fluid sapphire]

they just said that they find belt highways less work than building rail

[cold berry]

Still baffled I guess

[fluid sapphire]

preposterous but hey, if it works for them

[cold berry]

Alright sorry sorry go on

[toxic lichen]

how do i access that new node stuff they added?

yk like
randomizing
changing purities

is that experimental?

[white dawn]

I mean, with the blueprint-autoconnect that we've got with v1.1, big belt highways are quite trivial to put down. Over the course of a whole playthrough, yes, laying down rail would end up being less work since it's got re-use built into it

But the opportunity cost of learning how to use rail properly might seem daunting to some folks

(I would recommend that folks dive in regardless; trains are great once you're used to 'em, and at least that way if you don't like 'em it'll come from a place of knowledge. :D)

[glad carbon]

I still cant figure it out

[white dawn]

Yes, that's just in Experimental right now; see #satisfactory-experimental to ask questions about that. :)

It'll be released on public within a few months

[toxic lichen]

ah ty ty

think im gonna be too lazy to go through the effort rn ;-;

ill just wait a few months

[glad carbon]

Wait does playstation get same release times or is it delayed?

[white dawn]

AFAIK they're planning to release publicly at the same time for all platforms (PC/Xbox/PS)

[fathom pier]

i refuse to believe people can play satisfactory on a controller

[glad carbon]

It isint hard

[white dawn]

I mean, people were playing Satisfactory on controller even before there was official controller support

[glad carbon]

Id wish i could use a m&k tho

[fathom pier]

you can

[white dawn]

M+K support is coming to consoles with v1.2 btw

[glad carbon]

Oh thank god

[near mural]

the controls on mnk are so good id bet the controller ones are great too tbh

[fathom pier]

i generally hate controllers for all games

[fluid sapphire]

fr, there are a ton of games out there that play a lot better with a controller though

[fathom pier]

all fps games are terrible with controllers too

[near mural]

controller is more comfy but kbm gives sm more freedom and control

[fluid sapphire]

third person action games, sidescrollers, driving games type stuff play great with a controller

[fathom pier]

i hate not having the instant nature of the mouse

[fluid sapphire]

not every game needs that

[fathom pier]

perhaps

[shy temple]

Games where you need to look around, mouse is definitely more natural. But sit back and chill games, particularly with vehicles? Love controller

[fluid sapphire]

for first person games its hard to disagree though, i avoid those like the plague on controller usually, at least ones that require any kind of precision

[shy temple]

When I play ATS, I use a combo. My driving is all done controller, keyboard just for special commands.

Lets me just sit back in my chair

[glad carbon]

I need to redo the pipes 🥹

I did the pipes wrong

🥹

[fathom pier]

surprisingly satisfactory consumes very little storage space for the content it has

[near mural]

joever

[glad carbon]

I calced the amount of water extracters per blender

And i accidently did them 2 per 2

And not 2 per 3

[fluid sapphire]

no headroom to just adjust the clock speeds?

[glad carbon]

Not really since most of the blenders are 200% speed

[sturdy mural]

is it me or was biofuel texture brighter previously

like, the chainsaw fuel "rods" one

mini hay bales

[glad carbon]

Eh it looks crappy buuuut

I made more pipes to fix my pipe inequality

[faint willow]

got an aesthetics question for yall

what would yall recommend is a good addition to make interior walls look less bland? looking at like trusses or something similar

[glad carbon]

Patterns are a good one

[fluid sapphire]

you cant put patterns on walls

[glad carbon]

Not those patterns

[fluid sapphire]

you can try using beams and stuff

[glad carbon]

Meant make your own

[fluid sapphire]

ah, sure

or skip the walls entirely xd

[glad carbon]

Lol

[fluid sapphire]

i never figured out how to make walls look good

[glad carbon]

If there is no wall, there is no need to figure things out

[placid stirrup]

Depth and accent go a long way

[fluid sapphire]

perhaps

[fluid sapphire]

thats right, that has been my strategy
#screenshots message

[supple canopy]

easy wall design, super quick and efficient #design-and-architecture message

[fluid sapphire]

ah, yes looks very quick and simple

[glad carbon]

'Easy' ✌️😭

[ornate saffron]

You can make designs or copy IRL supports using metal beams or painted beams. Its a easy way to spice up a bland wall.

[glad carbon]

I make my walls out of ficsit shops

[unkempt blade]

thousands of tiny signs turned into pixel art

[mortal ginkgo]

go jail

[ornate saffron]

Pixel wall

[unkempt blade]

why don't you like art? it's beautiful

[ornate saffron]

#design-and-architecture message

[fluid sapphire]

i fear for my framerate

[supple canopy]

I recommand these two vids by totalXclipse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMarWMlGAjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr9t1N8SVQg

[ornate saffron]

I second this

[mortal ginkgo]

only if it is Miku art

[glad carbon]

I can make good looking wall by placing enough wall outlets

[supple canopy]

also sometimes simple is fine like this #screenshots message. If your factory looks busy it'll decorate itself

[unkempt blade]

what's that? will it make a good pixel mural?

[swift quarry]

Are there no vc's in the server?

[mortal ginkgo]

it will make it EXTRA cute and cuddly

[fluid sapphire]

you know what, thats pretty good, i might actually steal that for when i need walls next, its very industrial feeling, fits perfectly into my style

[glad carbon]

Why does everything take water

[fathom pier]

the best style is spaghetti and not knowing what anything does

[glad carbon]

Why does everything that poly resin turns into require water

[mortal ginkgo]

Water is nice.

[fluid sapphire]

if you dont want to deal with it its easy to just sink it

[glad carbon]

I need water for oil

[fluid sapphire]

but its free plastic/rubber so 🤷

[unkempt blade]

sorry no VC here we only communicate through interpretive dance

[supple canopy]

the corrogated walls used to have the frame in the back by default, now we have to add it manually...

[mortal ginkgo]

Have you ever checked the "Refinery" and its size in real life?

[glad carbon]

Uhh nop :p

[mortal ginkgo]

what games have is not even tiny in size of a toy in comprasion

[mortal ginkgo]

Its big.

[swift quarry]

Dang that sucks. I will just have to find a unoffical server with vc

[supple canopy]

I've always wanted CSS to add modular buildings to put next to refineries to make the spamming less of an eyesore, there are so much subbuildings in a refinery

[fathom pier]

automate 4536 nuclear pasta per minute

[supple canopy]

like for oil production you have to attach a fracking unit and for sulfuric acid something acid related...

[glad carbon]

I take this as a challenge, i shall comeback to you in about 2 years

[unkempt blade]

I bet those servers aren't as cool as we are

[ornate saffron]

i think the modding server has VC

[swift quarry]

Yeah. But I like to chat with people in a vc and see other peoples factories

[mortal ginkgo]

What I wanted to say but forgot is that, the oil process takes a lot of water. Massive amount irl as well.

[worn oar]

Does the smart mod upgrade tool normally break belts or am I just unlucky?

[unkempt blade]

you mean like this? #screenshots message

[glad carbon]

Huh

Is polyester fabric gonna save me?

[mortal ginkgo]

ok but riddle me this: why are the lamp colors are GLOBALLY limited?

[supple canopy]

yes and take the opportunity to automate gas masks

[mortal ginkgo]

Refinery is a game design problem. Everything beyond Refinery, is a refinery but in different clothing.

[glad carbon]

I wanna spam inhalers thooo

[unkempt blade]

it's going to make filters a lot easier but it's also going to slowly fill your lungs with microplactics as you use the filters so there's a tradeoff

[clear aspen]

Yo welcome back

[unkempt blade]

We should demand change. Lamps need all the colors

[swift quarry]

I just checked the modded discord and they stopped doing vc apparently. I guess its a lost cause. Thanks for the help tho

[mortal ginkgo]

Yes blz.

[glad carbon]

Oh wait gas filters make iodine infused filters, this is actually worth it

[unkempt blade]

it's tough on a public server because the internet is a terrible place full of monsters

[swift quarry]

Fair enough. I just wanted to chat with people. I am trying to figure out this game.

[mortal ginkgo]

this place is quite chatty

unfortunately the most important topic is mostly ignored

aka, Impure Limestone Nodes.

did you know that an Impure Limestone Node can provide a WHOPPING 300/min limestone?

Would you like to hear more facts about them?

[glad carbon]

Oh dear sweet jesus my fuse js broke

[mortal ginkgo]

Game just got a "Horror Tag" for you. kek

[unkempt blade]

I want limestone facts!

[supple canopy]

yes and they made it so that at 100% clock speed you can send half of the filters to iodine production, the other half to storage

[mortal ginkgo]

Did you know that alt Recipe of Concrete that asks for Quartz is REALLY good especially in "Advanced Rich" game mod in 1.2?

[supple canopy]

that is with the most pure form of mining, aka a fully overclocked mk3 miner. The REAL OGs harvest 30 limestone/min

[mortal ginkgo]

F A C T S!

This big dawg knows that he needs to optimize his factory for impure limestone node, not the other way around!

This big dawg is unhinged. Is mental. Is glorious!

[swift quarry]

@mortal ginkgo Whats the difference between Impure limestone from normal. I haven't

[green fiber]

Impure makes you factories look 26% cooler

[swift quarry]

I feel like there is something you ain't telling me

I been looking at them and they give the same materials

[green fiber]

Ok fiiine but dont tell Impure Limestone Node or they'll go on another rant

Impure nodes give 50% less stuff than normal nodes

and pure nodes give 2x of a normal node

[mortal ginkgo]

one is glorious, the other one is overrated piece of garbage that only wastes space and time of precious folk who could use impure limestone node instead

[swift quarry]

ooooh see I see now. Shoot man. I have so many miners on impure nodes

[mortal ginkgo]

you are playing this game CORRECT

[green fiber]

The only bad node is an unused node

[glad carbon]

My biomass

Takes so long to boot up

[swift quarry]

Bruh the pure gives 120/min. That awesome. I gonna be rich

[unkempt blade]

Did you know that you can use 144 limestone when making a single factory cart?

[mortal ginkgo]

IMPORTANT INFO OF CENTURY I MIGHT BOLDLY ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION BROTHERMAN

[glad carbon]

Still waiting for the biomass to boot up

[swift quarry]

What do you mean?

[glad carbon]

Waiting for it to boot up

I gotta wait till every singular one is full on solid biomass before i can connect it back to my factory

[swift quarry]

You need to find something to do. Give yourself a side project while you wait

[glad carbon]

But its my power source

[fathom pier]

go find hard drives

[leaden turret]

play game in hub

[glad carbon]

I have 30 spare 😭

[fathom pier]

go find power slugs

and mercers and sloops

[glad carbon]

No i have infinite

[fathom pier]

do u have dimensional storage

[glad carbon]

Yes

[fathom pier]

upgrade it

[unkempt blade]

it's slow because it's running DOS from a 5.25" floppy disk

[supple canopy]

go kill the nearest lizard doggo you can find

[glad carbon]

Its maxed

[fathom pier]

oh

whats ur new primary power source?

[glad carbon]

I have everything in the game except for t9

[glad carbon]

Im making a rocket fuel factory

[fathom pier]

then why r u waiting for biomass?

[glad carbon]

But i need power

[fathom pier]

put batteries

[unkempt blade]

because biomass is the best power source

[glad carbon]

Percisley

[fathom pier]

to jump start it

[glad carbon]

30k Mw with biomass alone

[fathom pier]

trues

[supple canopy]

kickstarting a RF factory with biomass burner is like when that uncontacted tribe on north sentinel island was catapulted into iron age when a shipping container crashed onto it

[fathom pier]

kickstart it with lipo batteries

[glad carbon]

Note im done with every single tier prior to t9

I havent switched

For a while

I have nuclear infastructure i can make, but im still on biomass 😭😭😭

Yay its done booting up :]

[swift quarry]

Is all the good nodes up north? Im in a grass land and I keep finding impure

[untold moat]

yes

[swift quarry]

😢

[cold berry]

I want a dumb splitter

[mortal ginkgo]

purpose of grass land is having tons of biomass, pretty flattish and wide land but lack of good resources to make you go explore.

[supple canopy]

it's balanced all over, there's no rule. Bauxite is on the equator is the only exception

[cold berry]

Bauxite Belts

[swift quarry]

What the heck even is Bauxite?

[cold berry]

Bauxed ite

[violet glen]

lesson of todays build: compacted steel sounds great, but the sheer amount of Foundrys it needs is a bit stupid.

[glad carbon]

Resource

[swift quarry]

Rock?

[white dawn]

In addition to a resource in-game, it's a real-life thing! -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauxite

[cold berry]

Someone's gotta play some gregtech

[supple canopy]

tf you mean lack of good ressources there are 6 Impure Limestone nodes in the gass fields get a grip man

[glad carbon]

Yes

[swift quarry]

Aluminium and Gallium

[cold berry]

It is indeed a rock. Just like Caterium, it's made up. It can't hurt you.

(not really it can and will)

[supple canopy]

gallium sounds too much like a recreational gas

[cold berry]

(and is real, and I'm going to make you process it irl)

[swift quarry]

I can't even scan for bauxite

Is it late game?

[frozen mica]

not really

[glad carbon]

50/50

[swift quarry]

50/50. I feel like I shouldn't worry about it. Its for future me

[glad carbon]

Its like t7 i think

I forgor

[swift quarry]

T7?!. Im on 2

[fathom pier]

i dont even know why yall doing plutonium setups

just flush the uranium waste down the toilet

[glad carbon]

That takes too long

And the plutonium can make more energy

[fathom pier]

nahh just flush 2k waste per second

[violet glen]

I was wondering why I couldn't sloop my packager. Then I realized how insanely broken that'd be lol

[swift quarry]

Out of curiosity from you late game players. Does the game get complicated fast? Because I am struggling with smart plating. I want to know if its only goes worse from here

[violet glen]

"Worse" is very subjective

it does get A LOT more complex

[glad carbon]

Pipes, when pipes, thats when game is not simple

I love pipes

[swift quarry]

Gas or liquid?

[violet glen]

Just package everything, pipes solved

[dapper cave]

To the coal mines, i go. Literallly

[glad carbon]

Gas easy, liquid no

[mortal ginkgo]

I am OBVIOUSLY not talking about those GLORIOUS nodes. I am gripping tight.

[glad carbon]

Too much plastic needed

[violet glen]

just loop back the empty cannisters

[glad carbon]

Still too much plastic needed

[wise junco]

FACKORY

[unkempt blade]

what if you use limestone instead?

[violet glen]

it literally needs 0 per minute though, after an initial investment :D

[fathom pier]

packager unpackager loop

[ebon marten]

go on experimental and use fluid trucks

[swift quarry]

What ore do I need to prep for plastic?

[violet glen]

none, it's from oil

[ebon marten]

oil

[ornate saffron]

oil

[mortal ginkgo]

It never gets hard due to its sandbox no time limit etc nature of the game.

However ADA is really REALLY bad at her job about explaining the new stuff that opens up. She basically doesn't help at all.

While that is "the joke haha funy" part of the game, game equally suffers from this due to Trains and complex fluid stuff are not explained by any means.

So thats where it gets complex.

[glad carbon]

Oil

[fathom pier]

u first need to ask permission from Iran though to use it

[ebon marten]

probably best to not go there

[glad carbon]

oil

What the

[swift quarry]

Uhh you said that

[glad carbon]

Yea i relised thar now

[swift quarry]

You like oil huh

[glad carbon]

My phone resent all those messages 😭😭

[fathom pier]

who doesn't

[glad carbon]

I saw them twice 😭

[civic ore]

Is 30 motors a minute going to be enough moving through tier 4 and 5

[glad carbon]

Absolutley

[unkempt blade]

depends how fast you want it to go 🙂

[civic ore]

Minute not second lmao I wish

[glad carbon]

Now it isint enough

[civic ore]

Genuine pain

[ebon marten]

making 30 motors a second would be insane

[glad carbon]

I make like 300 a min

As of rn

[unkempt blade]

it's possible though

[ebon marten]

late game using alt recipes?

[glad carbon]

Basic recipe

[swift quarry]

300. How fast are your belts?

[glad carbon]

Mk5

I honestly forgot how fast they are

[swift quarry]

So its 5x at mk1?

[glad carbon]

Uhh

Mk is 30 right?

[civic ore]

No they scale weird I’m at mk4 and it’s 480

[supple canopy]

mk5 is 780

[ebon marten]

mk 1 handles 60pm

[supple canopy]

plastic ore

[swift quarry]

What would I have that produces that much stuff. Geez

[glad carbon]

Miner resources

When you extract like 10000 a min of iron i gets heavy

[ebon marten]

screws, copper powder or loads of other stuff you have multiple machines making

[swift quarry]

But my pure nodes only do 120pm

[glad carbon]

Power shards

[civic ore]

You can get better miners

[supple canopy]

don't overthink it. It gets complicated but nothing unmanageable. If you ever get intimidated you can come here for advice

[civic ore]

My pure iron does 600 at mk2 and fully sharded

[supple canopy]

late game you can extract 1200

[swift quarry]

My power shards don't do anything though.

[glad carbon]

🥹

He aint learnt how to overclock

[supple canopy]

slide the slide thingy after putting power shards

[swift quarry]

What does that even mean?

[ebon marten]

you have to put the output to 250%

[swift quarry]

ooooooh

[hollow mountain]

ok my mind changed... i hate pipeline

[swift quarry]

Geez it drains the power tho

[civic ore]

Your entire factory building process is about to become 5 times easier

[hollow mountain]

i spend an hour trying to understand why my water didnt go up

[supple canopy]

it is the downside yes, one more logistic puzzle to tackle 🙂

[glad carbon]

Did you learn about the sloshing mechanic?

[ebon marten]

considering you are getting 250% out of one machine thats the price you will have to pay

[hollow mountain]

the wut

[swift quarry]

What should I overclock?

[hollow mountain]

you overclock when you want more from one node

[ornate saffron]

trying to catch up. What are you trying to do?

[glad carbon]

Basically water moves in the pipes, and it follows kinda how water moves through pipes irl, so like doing alot of sharp turns close to eachother can make the water stop

Or slow down

[swift quarry]

I am being taught about power shards and what they do

[supple canopy]

whatever makes your life easier

you can underclock too if you want to save on power

[hollow mountain]

yeah i know about that im just a nooby when it come to balancing water

[ornate saffron]

Miners/ and other resources nodes ar e popular as reosurces nodes and belt speed is often your limt

[hollow mountain]

guys what the sam generator do? give you more power?

[swift quarry]

I think I will just pocket them because I have like 60+ of these things and I don't know where to put them because my belts are to slow. I need to find out how to level them up

[green fiber]

yes

[ornate saffron]

Also clocking (under or over) helps set part per minute rates. clock9ing is our best tool

[civic ore]

I’ve just unlocked trains, what’s the best usage of them? Is it mainly to allow moving resources across the map? Will it actually function like a conveyer?

[hollow mountain]

maybe i should build it lol

[green fiber]

Power augmenter gives you more power per power

[earnest condor]

Power should never be a factor in your decision-making, given the asinine amounts of it you can make.

[glossy fiber]

Ok so why the actual (insert 10 explicitivies right here)), do i not have a damn blueprint option in build menu after I make a blueprint?

[green fiber]

because you can bind them to the hotbar

[shy temple]

Trains can transfer large quantities of resources longer distances without needing to build many conveyors and piping, etc.

[ebon marten]

did you check the blueprint tab

[glossy fiber]

THERE IS NO TAB 🙂

[ebon marten]

did you actually save it

[feral vector]

So if I have rubber on a train and it goes to two different stops, the first stop is gonna hog all the rubber cause the freight platform has a bunch of built in storage?

[earnest condor]

You have 10 hotbars.
Just bind your BPs to one or more of them.

[shy temple]

And if you can set up your lines to run multipel trains, it gets better. I like them when one place needs resources from multiple sources or one source needs to go to multiple places

[green fiber]

yes

[glossy fiber]

No.

[swift quarry]

Thanks for the tip

[glossy fiber]

Yes.

[earnest condor]

Until it fills. Then it will take only what it can.
Just like any machine manifold.

[shy temple]

xsjx, yeah, they will try to unload everything first stop

[ebon marten]

you can make empty platforms so it doesnt take all the rubber

[shy temple]

If you want to even split, then use two cars.

[earnest condor]

Why declare your issues if you don't want solutions to them?

[civic ore]

How efficient is it tho? If I need 200 per min of a resource and have that much production will a train be able to keep the flow even if it’s 2km away?

[shy temple]

SO at loading, it loads two cars, and use empty platforms at the drop offs so one car drops at one stop, other car drops at other stops.

[feral vector]

Well what the fuck lol how do I distribute rubber better then, I spent so much time figuring out how to split rails into multiple stations at each factory

[green fiber]

you can wait or you use 2 cars

[glossy fiber]

Because, you didnt read my post and understand it. There is no blueprint tab to do what you said from.

[earnest condor]

Let it fill. Pretend it is a manifold.

[green fiber]

have you reloaded the save yet.
also, in what tier of BP Designer did you make it

[ebon marten]

at one stop use an empty platform and at the other station make the unload where the empty ones were at the other stop

[feral vector]

Ahhh that makes sense idk how I didn't think of that 🤦‍♂️

[shy temple]

yey, yup, unless the station can fill up in one run, you can haull full load Trick is to make sure the belts feeding into the station can exceed what is going on the line because conveyors pause while loading and unloading

[glossy fiber]

Teir 2, Ive reloaded the game twice. I have just a simplistic blueprint for conveyors saved. But in my build tab, its just the normal items to build and then customize

[green fiber]

did you even unlock the mk 1 designer

[feral vector]

Don't think I'll ever have more than one car worth

[earnest condor]

If you're in Tier 2 there is no way you have made a blueprint.

[shy temple]

If you make X per minute, and it takes Y minutes, it will have X * Y to load. So long as one cycle wont fill a car, then you will be good because it will take everything.

[feral vector]

Unless I split it up on purpose of course, that seems like the best idea

[glossy fiber]

.....That is probably it.

[green fiber]

go unlock it please. that one comes bundled with the actual blueprint option

[ebon marten]

split the output into 2 cars so they even out and unload one at one station and the other at the next

[shy temple]

Best bet is to use two cars then. Have a splitter so two stations load evenly.

[earnest condor]

@feral vector hi.

[wise junco]

hi

[feral vector]

It's gonna take a long time to fill a big ass container lol

[shy temple]

In stations, there is empty platforms. So you can use the empty platform for one at one stop, and then for the other car other stop.

[glossy fiber]

Yup, that did it. Thank you 🙂

[ebon marten]

trains take time to go round the stations

[shy temple]

Say car one is for stop one.

[feral vector]

Yeah I understand, I didn't think about a splitter into two different freight platforms where the rubber gets loaded

[supple canopy]

just out of curiosity, I don't understand how you made a blueprint without unlocking the mk1 designer?

[civic ore]

So I’ve used nearly every resource node to the right of the line and now need to move, where about in this image is gonna be best for moving my HUB and storage too?

#screenshots message

[glossy fiber]

Skipped straight to teir 2, and never got T1

[ebon marten]

different world/downloaded blueprint

[shy temple]

<STATION><FREIGHT><EMPTY>
<STATION><EMPTY><FREIGHT> for second

[elfin gyro]

honestly I thought this ping was another vid so I didn't check in ages but YO WELCOME BACK

[supple canopy]

oooh didn't even know that was possible lol get less dumb everyday or whatever they say

[shy temple]

What you can do as well is don't use a splitter. Use a large container.

[earnest condor]

💛

[feral vector]

Like one container feeding two different freight platforms?

[shy temple]

Then you can use the top and bottom of container and the container can stockpile if stations fill.

Yup. Cause they have two outputs, so you can double the maximum capacity if it matters.

(for filling)

[glossy fiber]

Is there a trick for getting blurprints for conveyors to "snap" together?

[ebon marten]

theres an option for connected blueprints

[feral vector]

Blueprint auto connect mode?

[elfin gyro]

I think there's a new mode for it, I want to say R, to help them auto connect. Seems to be pretty reliable if they're either perfectly flush or have a small gap between

[shy temple]

Uhh, that commen of container just gave me a good idea...

So my main station, I have floor level between the two outputs of the stations. I am am going to do same with my containers. Letting me transfer resources between floors without splitters and elevators, etc.

[glossy fiber]

Oh, ok yeah the auto connect is actually shit with it being on a non flat surface lol

[shy temple]

Autoconnect blueprint was also glory for doing my train line nice and straight.

Said it before, but had a large footprint blueprint for my railroad ties. I would change them and then blueprint delete every 2 of 3

And every third tie would be for signals. It was great.

[glossy fiber]

LMAO plz look in screenshots, this is what it keeps trying to do everytiem

[shy temple]

When I start my 1.2, I plan on doing all factory production with blueprints too, I want to make blocks.

[fluid sapphire]

it works best if for the linking you align them height wise, otherwise how is the system supposed to know which belts you want to connect

[glad carbon]

And now to place 64 blenders

[glossy fiber]

Also note: set your FOV to the most minimal thing you can.

[glad carbon]

Wait am i able to even extract 6400 sulfur a min?

[fluid sapphire]

Yes but you need mk3 miners for that

[glad carbon]

And mk6 conveyers

[fluid sapphire]

Naturally

[glad carbon]

Hmm

I find mk6 conveyers are a bit of a problem with no phase 4

[fluid sapphire]

You can design and build stuff in anticipation of mk6 belts, then later upgrade the belts

What I did for my power plant

Well for me I just needed to upgrade the belts for the sulfur

The rest I built in 2 modules, so I could turn on the second module after getting the belts upgraded

[glad carbon]

Yeaa i might need to do the same

With 64 blenders it gets pretty hefty on the sulfur need

[fluid sapphire]

Bet

[neat anvil]

Just realized I gotta fit 17 manufacturers into my factory💔💔💔

I did not plan for this

[shy temple]

That is my next step after aluminium, I want drones to consolidate all those odd resources like sulfur

[swift quarry]

Dang. I found coal and thought I could put it in my biomass burners and it didn't work

[shy temple]

The true satisfactory experience

[neat anvil]

I’m actually at a brick wall cause I don’t want to up scale my architecture by a bunch ):

[fluid sapphire]

Tier 3 my guy

[swift quarry]

ah. I gotta wait for my smart plating to finish before I can check out tier 3

[fluid sapphire]

Definitely a priority though, automated power

[cold berry]

Tier 3 is the worst. Just quit now, you peaked

[swift quarry]

The worst?!

[fluid sapphire]

Tier 3 is the best, where the game gets "real" for the first time

[elfin gyro]

ah yeah best guess is it tries the best connections first then tries others, rather than equalising

[neat anvil]

Tier 3 without automated power???

Wait

[cold berry]

I'm mocking people who say the game gets bad any time it gets any more complex lol sorry

[swift quarry]

My power is automated. I just gotta to fill it with leaves and wood. I got like 4 container of wood and leaves :)

[elfin gyro]

aluminium make head hurty :( game mean

[neat anvil]

It makes my brain hurt but in a good way

[shy temple]

Game takes off when you finally are making enough things to unlock stuff in the shop

[fluid sapphire]

Haha me out here with my pure ingot recipes. Ez

[neat anvil]

Although I’m Trina gas throw phase 4 cause I’m getting burnt out

[shy temple]

TBH, that is the biggeset holdup for me. I want the pretties to help layout base and all the organizers in there too.

[fluid sapphire]

I think it takes off when you get the jetpack

Fr tho

[neat anvil]

atp I think I will stop trying it TOO hard on design, I’m ganna play again anyway after the update

[wise junco]

i wanna eat biomass

[swift quarry]

Jetpack :0

[shy temple]

Well, one would think that, but then I usually end up with a crash and burn

[fluid sapphire]

Tier 5, just at the start of phase 3

[swift quarry]

Im so far

[fluid sapphire]

Keep cooking, you have so much to look forward to

[harsh locust]

Is there a way to position the item list from the dimensional depot in another order or even delete the entrence of a certai item?

[shy temple]

Mmmm hmm! and do it at your pace, have fun, mix things up if you are getting tired.

[glad carbon]

#screenshots too many

Theres too many

[swift quarry]

Im making like 1 smart plating a min so I need 20 more mins then its tier 3 time

[glad carbon]

But i need them all

[fluid sapphire]

Just pinning items, that's all

[neat anvil]

Maybe I should do what everyone suggest, layout -> build -> decorate

[shy temple]

That is how I do it myself.

[neat anvil]

Instead of doing it all at the same time

[shy temple]

I will get stuff working, working my layout in with terrain. Then get it running.

[glad carbon]

Oh lord and i need to connect them all without spaghetti

[shy temple]

When I need a break, I will putter on detailing stuff I have built. And when doing pretty stuff, I will stop if I get tired of that and work on some other part of the game.

[neat anvil]

TRAINS

[elfin gyro]

just remember to build with extra empty space

[glad carbon]

NO

[swift quarry]

Train :0

[neat anvil]

IT IS THE ONLY WAY EMBRACE IT JOIN IT

[shy temple]

I also like to say that there are different things to build too. There are your primary things to progress, but then you got all the research stuff. Things like ammunitions and side goods, etc.

[neat anvil]

BE ONE WITH THE MACHINE

[shy temple]

Live the rigatoni life, no spaghetti

Engineer the confusion. Impossible to follow, but it looks organized

[glad carbon]

A train aint fitting brochacho

Look at my ss

[swift quarry]

When do I get the trains?

[glad carbon]

T6 i think

[neat anvil]

Yep

[swift quarry]

Why is all the cool stuff so far

[neat anvil]

Cause that’s when you’ll need it

[shy temple]

Plenty of room for trains. One train per floor of blenders

.....

[glad carbon]

😭😭😭😭

[tawny tusk]

uhhh what

[shy temple]

I want a stacked train station now

[tawny tusk]

i randomly got pinged on this server

[feral vector]

Hmm maybe I should have put the blueprints closer together, they are kinda just random distances apart lol

[civic ore]

Just unlocked oil refineries and wtf there’s so many new things. What should I focus on? Or just split production between everything?

[feral vector]

Get stuff you need to unlock further milestones

[shy temple]

Early on, just split. Thing with refinery, is that it all complements eachother. Synergies.

[swift quarry]

I don't man I could use a train right now

[shy temple]

Blueprints will unlock more refinery stuff, so if you are feeling overwhelmed, focus on the three basics to get used to it. Fuel, plastic, rubber

[ornate saffron]

you were looking for a way to play on m,ac ya?>

[tawny tusk]

ummm

[neat anvil]

Do you? Trains are for long distance travel

[tawny tusk]

i kinda got shapez 2 and playing that now

[neat anvil]

You kind of only get them when you need to get stuff across long distances

[swift quarry]

Raw Quartz are far

[ornate saffron]

i said id keep a eye out for ways to play. When i pinged you i was conversing with a mac player. they used something called Crossover

[neat anvil]

Mmmm I guess but that’s just one belt

[tawny tusk]

oh yeah i tried that

it didnt work

[neat anvil]

Question regarding drones, can I have a setup with A, B, C stations, the drones get fuel from station A and pick up and deliver from B to C

[glad carbon]

You could js have drones delivering fuel to you other drones

[neat anvil]

And I’m guessing those fuel delivery drones are at a fuel factory?

[glad carbon]

Ye

[neat anvil]

Mmmmm

Ok

When I’m done with this computer factory I’m gonna make a drone army big enough to block out the sun🔥🔥🔥

[glad carbon]

I can feel that lag from here

[neat anvil]

Is the only range limitation just speed depending on what fuel you use?

[glad carbon]

Sorta

I actually dont think there is a range limit, either way rocket fuel or ionised is capable of getting across the map with not much fuel needed

[supple canopy]

no range limit, even normal fuel can get you across

[swift quarry]

Phase 2 is a 1,000 smart plating :(

[glad carbon]

Yessir

[neat anvil]

How I miss those hours

This stuff makes me crave doing stuff as simple as smart plates

[swift quarry]

Simple? I make 1 every 2 mins

[neat anvil]

Yep

[glad carbon]

Im actually suprised i managed to get to phase 3 in 3 hours

[swift quarry]

mm. I want that hyper tube stuff. It look perfect

[neat anvil]

You can make a rail cannon out of them

[glad carbon]

*Start of the game to phase 3

[swift quarry]

Gun?

[neat anvil]

Like a superfast cannon

Because they have no speed cap

[glad carbon]

You can visit the other planets if you make em big enough

[swift quarry]

Really?

[neat anvil]

Ada will kill you before you make it

[glad carbon]

They do actually have a speed cap, cuz i remember seeing a dev reacting to a lets game it out vid saying they had to set one or the game would literally break

[neat anvil]

Honestly I’m gonna embrace platform factories

I didn’t like doing them because I thought they were boring but they are a lot easier to decorate

And WAY easier to work with

Is there any estimate to when the update will come out?

[hollow mountain]

arent battery a pain to make they want you to mix everything with alumina so you need to balance water but liquid is impossible to balance correctly

balance alumina not water

[neat anvil]

You don’t really balance with liquids

[supple canopy]

no it's not that bad, aluminum requires recycling either way

[hollow mountain]

wdym recycling?

like packaging?

[neat anvil]

Or using it elsewhere

“Recycling”

[hollow mountain]

nvm i just got an alternate recipe for battery i think ill just go with that

[supple canopy]

battery production gives water as byproduct. You can use it back into the alumina production

(or do whatever you want with it)

[neat anvil]

FICSIT DOES NOT WASTE

[glad carbon]

4800 nitrogen per min now 🥹

[hollow mountain]

but i need another bauxite node tho because the one i have cant be extend

[shy temple]

Moar trains!

[neat anvil]

Trains ARE the solution

[glad carbon]

Oh mah gaawd i can use the compacted coal im getting for compacted steel ingots, miracle

[hollow mountain]

no i mean the liquid move exacly like i want to and touching it will fuck everything

[neat anvil]

Liquids are a strange phenomenon

[swift quarry]

Wait now that I have coal power what do I do with my large collection of Solid Biofuel?

[neat anvil]

Use it

Or sink it

FICSIT DOES NOT WASTE

[hollow mountain]

use it for chainsaw and transform it to liquid when you get jetpack

[swift quarry]

Isn't sinking it wasting it

[earnest condor]

No.

[glad carbon]

No

[neat anvil]

No because it’s going to be research

[earnest condor]

Sinking converts it to useful points.

[glad carbon]

MONEY

[swift quarry]

Points for what. I been using it as a trash can

[earnest condor]

Coupons to spend in the Shop?

[neat anvil]

The AWESOME shop

If you haven’t discovered it till now you will LOVE it

[swift quarry]

I didn't see the print coupon button

[earnest condor]

The intended gameplay loop is infinite resources from nodes at the beginning, overflow when storage fills getting sunk at the end.
Nothing should ever stall out or stop moving.

[cold berry]

Holy shit

[neat anvil]

How many do you have?

[swift quarry]

I got 32

[neat anvil]

Wow

[cold berry]

Eh, I've gotten more

Do you know about the MAM

[glad carbon]

My trains honking at me

[swift quarry]

The shop seems to be qol and decor

[shy temple]

Well, is all experience. One thing about independency is you get lots of tickets.

[neat anvil]

I’m sinking heavy modular frames as we speak

[shy temple]

My machine had.. many last I looked

[swift quarry]

The map?

[shy temple]

many millions per ticket, purely junk overflow

[glad carbon]

I should sink super computer, would be better than turbo fuel

[neat anvil]

Rip

[cold berry]

Research station. The hard drives you find, found or will find. Put them in it. Also, it unlocks a lot of good shit.

Like logistics stuff. There's a splitter with filters and an overflow feature, for instance.

Soy you can fill a container, and send any excess to the BASEMENT

[swift quarry]

I completly forgot about the research station

[cold berry]

(what I call my sinks)

[neat anvil]

@swift quarry PLEASE GET CAST SCREWS ALT, it will make you life better

[violet glen]

Can't you get rid of screws entirely with alternates?

[swift quarry]

What?

[cold berry]

And steel screws. A little more work, but perfect for things like the vanilla HMF recipe

[neat anvil]

You normally need pipes to make screws, but the alt let you make screws directly from ingots

[swift quarry]

Dude a hard drive takes 10mins! I have 12

[cold berry]

There are alternate recipes. That's what I was talking about with the hard drives.

[cold berry]

You do hard drives when you are doing other shit. And you can place down infinite research stations unlike the hub. So just honestly? Only place it when you need it lol

Like when a hard drive finishes

[violet glen]

you don't get one timer per MAM tho

it's global

[neat anvil]

Also, only claim what you NEED you will never get a repeated alt

[cold berry]

Well, doesn't the list loop back around tho?

[violet glen]

no

[swift quarry]

Can I save them for later or do I have to choose a alt

[supple canopy]

which makes 120 minutes which is like 10% of daily gametime for a normal person??

[violet glen]

you can choose whenever, the list just gets longer and longer

[neat anvil]

It makes it easier to stock pile on recipes and make it easier when you need a specific one

[violet glen]

It's also cheesable if you really want a specific one, but that's for everyone to decide themselves if they want to do it

[neat anvil]

Stockpiling also lets you unlock more alts in the phase you’re just starting

[glad carbon]

Aww the resource well pressurizer has a little thing on its screen that says 'Doing my best...'

[violet glen]

It says a lot of random things :D

[swift quarry]

Thanks for reminding me about the MAM. I didn't know I can scan for caterium, quartz and sulfur. I been just marking the nodes on my map

[neat anvil]

Alts aren’t always better replacements for the original recipe, they just help out with specific problems you might have

Like being able to make wire from iron

[swift quarry]

My current problem is I have to make like 160 screws pm for smart plating

[violet glen]

iirc the Wire from Iron recipe is quite bad, resource utilization wise

[neat anvil]

Yea but if there’s no copper it’s obviously useful

All depends on the player

[neat anvil]

Do you not have enough iron?

[swift quarry]

Everything is Impure

I got like 1 normal and 6 impure

[violet glen]

That's the curse of the grassy plains

[neat anvil]

I’m the mam start researching power slugs

[stone python]

youre tha maam?????

[elfin gyro]

for how much smart plating?

[stone python]

why cant you read hard drives faster

[neat anvil]

You get something that lets you overclock machines at the cost of more power

[swift quarry]

Well it says I need 1000

[elfin gyro]

and how many a minute is 160 getting you?

[neat anvil]

Yea but not per minute

[swift quarry]

1pm

[elfin gyro]

(genuine question I'm not looking at the wiki lol)

[swift quarry]

My rotors need 100 screws. But my belts only move 60

[neat anvil]

Oh

[violet glen]

you should be able to unlock mk2 belts with minimal hand crafting

[elfin gyro]

^

[swift quarry]

I would send a picture but my factory is all over the place. I kinda placed a factory at each node and just belt the resources everywhere

[elfin gyro]

as someone in the grassy plains I feel like you need to look slightly further for iron

[ornate saffron]

lots of iron there.

[elfin gyro]

there is enough iron there for me to blast through the first couple phases

only reason I move out of the biome is quartz and oil

and that's at ~5-10ppm for most parts up to that point

[swift quarry]

30 iron pm is not working for me

even with multiple nodes

[ornate saffron]

well ya, the game is designed to push you across the map

[elfin gyro]

I still think you need to look further for iron or check how your mining is working then

[ornate saffron]

come phase 3 you are forrced to

[elfin gyro]

I use about 5 iron nodes total to get those numbers, mix of all 3 levels

so by far not all the iron in that entire biome

[supple canopy]

5-10 parts per million is abysmal

[swift quarry]

Never found a pure one and even if I did I can't move 120pm the belts are to expense for long distance

[neat anvil]

When you scan for resources if you hover over them in the map it tells you their purity

[elfin gyro]

then build a factory to make the belts less expensive, or build the full factory at the node 🙂

small spread out factories with short belts ftw

[swift quarry]

When I scan it just shows the ones I already have miners on. Do I have to move away from them?

[elfin gyro]

do you have the map unlocked?

[swift quarry]

yea

[elfin gyro]

can you send a #screenshots of your current map?

[swift quarry]

Just did

[neat anvil]

Love how you explore the entire coast

[elfin gyro]

how have you-

i- just-

how have you explored more map than me and not found more iron?

[neat anvil]

Wait did you do that with no Blade Runner????

[swift quarry]

Whats a blade runner?

[neat anvil]

You run like 2X faster

And jump

[swift quarry]

Where do I find it

[violet glen]

Quartz tree in the MAM

[dense violet]

MAM

[clear aspen]

Yo Wsp

[elfin gyro]

for reference that's all my grassy field factories, with concrete and power lines showing so you can see where the factories are

[swift quarry]

I guess I gotta make a quartz factory now

[ornate saffron]

yoyo

[clear aspen]

Hru

[ornate saffron]

im okay, tired worked kicked my ass. BUT

im back baby

[elfin gyro]

(no belts or other transport between those except trains along the bottom, I run to each one if I need bulk materials)

[clear aspen]

I heard that you got sniped, may I hear the story

[ornate saffron]

another time. atm shower then bed

[elder grail]

Does anyone know if there's any estimated release date for the update in the official game?

[lusty escarp]

do we have a hex code color for ||ficsite ingots||

[glad carbon]

Im sorry i connect a pipe to a pure gas node and it says i get 300/min but my pipes say 600/min is flowing, tf?

[ebon marten]

#AD5200 this is the lighter hex code for it

[lusty escarp]

thankies

[ebon marten]

if you are on pc just take a screenshot and put it into paint and you can get the hex from there

[lusty escarp]

im making a 3d model of them in blender and gonna make some textures for them so i wanted the exact hex

[chrome bear]

what's the hoverpack?

[dense violet]

check #announcements

[ebon marten]

you can look on the satisfactory wiki to get images of the items and screenshot those, paste into paint and get the hex

[dense violet]

show some overhead shots of what you're trying to do in #math-and-meta or a post in #1038092680493801533

[dapper cave]

So my first coal gens were established on the bottom of the map around basically a puddle of water with room for only 1 water extracter. It functions but I went up north and theres this massive body of water with multiple coal mines. WISH I WOULDA STARTED HERE

[ebon marten]

i dont think that you can actually start there but its not difficult getting there from the grass fields, you can always move the powerplant easily

[late pumice]

If you want to explore the map in one go, utilize hypertube cannons. As you go farther higher and faster, for some reason the game renders you as a bigger object or something and in return it shows a higher circle of the map.

[dapper cave]

i meant start building my coal gens there lol

All good tho

[main phoenix]

Since Nitrogen is a gas, does it still need pumps to push it vertical?

[dense violet]

exploring and location planning is important 🙂

[late pumice]

As this has a better approach, I will say it.
Make sure the hypertube cannon is in the center of the map. Then go N, NE, E, SE, S, SW, W, NW, N
And then that’s exactly how you discover the entire map in like, what, eight gos?

[wraith widget]

i finally tried factorio and yenno wot

i hate the 2 items per belt

[ebon marten]

use your current set up to start another, youll have the power to start it up at full speed

[hollow mountain]

what do you guys use blueprint for?

[next ivy]

for anything repetitive

and complex

[hollow mountain]

like train stuff?

[next ivy]

yes, tho you probably wont be able to fit stations

[wraith widget]

bp is super useful for trains, cause of the auto connect

i never used bp for anything else lyl

[dense violet]

you can create single machine BPs with belt/pipe/power connections all set up. Very flexible that way and it still cuts out tons of work

[swift quarry]

Can pipes not go up or something?

[hollow mountain]

whats bp?

[next ivy]

blueprint

[ivory condor]

you can in the larger designers, space is limited though

[hollow mountain]

ohhh

is supercomputer a pain to make?

[dense violet]

sure they can

[earnest condor]

Is anything a pain to make?

Or is making things the fun of the game?

[hollow mountain]

some things are ez... didnt had any real probably with hmf

[swift quarry]

Then why is my water not in the pipe up above?

[dense violet]

headlift is a thing

headlift is how high liquids can move up

[night lotus]

gotta get a pump twin

[wraith widget]

imo placing things in this game is absolute torture, still 9/10 though

[dense violet]

use foundations and walls - very easy snapping then

[earnest condor]

If you don't like the building aspect of a building game... I would say pick a different genre?

[wraith widget]

why cant i do an auto-curve, like the mod?

[dense violet]

basically everything in this game can be either brain dead easy or insanely hard - you choose the setting

[wraith widget]

this games biggest issue is right angles

kidding but i cant believe theres no auto curve

[dense violet]

angles themselves are very easy, curves are more work it's true.

don't build in curves if you don't want the work

[glad carbon]

I dont like having to connect up 64 blenders to a stable source of resources and then have to make sure non of the conveyeres clip in each other, BUT i still do it cuz its fun :]

[wraith widget]

the only other shit take i have, is that the splitters are way too Fking big, the balancer mod really is better imo

[dense violet]

the balancer mod is stupid and takes out all the skill and thought of balancing

[wraith widget]

worst splitters ever

[glad carbon]

Tf you mean splitters are big 😭😭

[wise junco]

BIG

[wraith widget]

i just mean the one that makes the splitters smaller and merge into a small one

[glad carbon]

TINY

[wraith widget]

they are MASSIVE

[glad carbon]

Nuh uh😭

[dense violet]

they are as big as they reasonably need to have multiple belts connectiong

belts are also big

[wraith widget]

have you seen how shapez 2 does belt splitting?

[glad carbon]

I cant mod on consol :p

[wise junco]

belts

[glad carbon]

If that is a mod that is

[wraith widget]

its literally just a tiny "pusher" on the belt

satisfactory out here with huge cubes

[swift quarry]

Is it smart to build a Central Storage System or just keep things spread out?

[night lotus]

do whatever is gonna make you happy twin

[dense violet]

will you have fun doing it?
then sure
if no? then don't bother

[swift quarry]

I just don't know what I am doing

[dense violet]

the milestones are a tutorial
pick a milestones, automate the parts for them

[white dawn]

Now that we have Dimensional Depot, building Central Storage is definitely a labor of love. I'll maintain that there's at least a decent use-case for some form of central storage up until maybe midgame, just 'cause it takes a nontrivial amount of effort to upgrade + build out your Depots

I still love building them, personally. It's a fun logistics challenge. :)

[dense violet]

you spend more time planning and building the central storage than you'll ever spend just hoping into a hyper tube and hitting a few spots

especially since the central storage might be in a place further away than your regular factories to where you're building

[white dawn]

As I say: labor of love. :D And "some form of" central storage in the earlier game can be awfully simple

[swift quarry]

What the Dimensional Depot do? Is it a auto sorter?

[white dawn]

Most folks, dare I say, aren't really spreading out all that much in the earlier bits of the game anyway. :)

[dense violet]

just alien tech, you'll see it

[swift quarry]

okay

[wraith widget]

make your splitters smaller

its what i do

[glad carbon]

Hey i have a question, how many fuel gens do yall usually use for rocket fuel

[wise junco]

pure ingot recipes

[dense violet]

zero.

[glad carbon]

Cuz if i set everything to 240% over clock i have to place 1920 fuel gens to use my rocket fuel up 😭😭

[swift quarry]

I think I might do that. It gives me something to do as I wait for materials to be made.

[dense violet]

if you want lots of power way simpler to have nuclear. literally 1/10th the generators needed

[dense violet]

yes, that's the main reason rf generators are dumb

[wise junco]

Refineries for DAYS

[glad carbon]

But the power

[white dawn]

Blueprints, and especially the newer blueprint auto-connect, can take the edge off Endless Fuel Gen Spam, at least.

[glad carbon]

1.15gw of energy

[white dawn]

If you're willing to have real tight piping, you can fit 4x fuel gens in a blueprint, and include all the sharding, etc

[dense violet]

well as explained you could have 192 nuclear gens instead and have the same power

[white dawn]

But yeah, I enjoy me some fuel power (including RF!) but I'm not fond of the fuel gen spam, so I tend to save my big buildouts for Nuclear

[glad carbon]

Yuh, BUT im also gonna do the nuke gens too

[white dawn]

The Nuclear production chain (especially if you're doing Plutonium or even Ficsonium) is more complex than rocket fuel, but I'm playing the game to make complex factories, so that's just kind of win/win for myself. :)

[dense violet]

eh, enjoy the pain you've signed up for then

[serene jolt]

place them all

[glad carbon]

OR, i could wait till ionised is mass prodceable and turn all 64 blenders producing rocket fuel into producing ionised instead power, and use ALL of that for power

[white dawn]

Ionized is, in general, pretty awful for power btw, compared to the power you get if you just burn the Rocket Fuel instead.

I think with precise slooping you can get decent gains, but IMO just sloop the RF itself, if you're doing that

Ionized just eats up so much RF while producing that the increased energy density barely pays off, if at all

Ionized is an A+ jetpack fuel, though (and presumably a great fuel for vehicles + drones)

[glad carbon]

I mean

[hollow mountain]

i just unlock rocket fuel 😄

[white dawn]

(And also a way to sink excess shard production, if you're automating shards and don't want that line to eventually back up)

[glad carbon]

I am making 64 x 300 rocket fuel a min so

I coooould turn that all into ionised

[white dawn]

Sure, but do your math to find out how much actual power that's gonna give you, compared to just leaving it all as Rocket Fuel. :)

[glad carbon]

320m³ of fuel a second

[dense violet]

it's less power than just burning the RF

[glad carbon]

I dont really have ionised unlocked yet, but RF is 1.15 Gw

[white dawn]

It sounds like Sevrahn's fond of their Ionized power setup, which utilizes strategic slooping in a way which maybe makes Ionized more attractive

Though I still have trouble believing that one wouldn't be better off just slooping the RF itself instead. :P

[glad carbon]

Note im making this much of 1 pure node of oil 😭

[dense violet]

yeah but you're just converting other resources to oil
that's what all the fuels steps are

[glad carbon]

Well ye

Js adding resources to oil

To make better oil

I relised there 1 more pure node and 2 more normals, if i build long enough i can make a 3.45~ Gw RF plant 😭

And thats not even adding the amount all my Alien power augmenters will add

[feral vector]

if my train setup isn't too complicated I can just slam down a bunch of block signals for now right?

[white dawn]

Even if your train setup is complicated, Just Block Signals™ will do

[feral vector]

man this game makes me feel stupid more than any game I've ever played lol

my train line is so janky, idk how people have such nice smooth curves and stuff

[white dawn]

Path Signals just help improve "efficiency" at busy intersections where more than one train might be able to be in it at the same time, without colliding

[swift quarry]

same

[white dawn]

(Path signals are quite useful, but especially if you're just getting used to trains, you'll do well with just Block. You can always upgrade intersections to Path later)

[feral vector]

alright I'll do a block just to get it up and running

[white dawn]

(When you do start trying Path, just remember: Path signal going in to the intersection, Block signal going out.)