satisfactory

[real shale]

Centralised power mentioned, I have been summoned

[exotic frigate]

I fell into the same problem. I thought you could chain together generators

[analog citrus]

hooo god

its working

ty !

[exotic frigate]

Me when my girlfriend

[analog citrus]

?

[exotic frigate]

Just a joke dont mind me :P

[analog citrus]

i didnt understand x)

[lean fossil]

I NEED HELP

I'm gonna die oh my god

[fluid sapphire]

dont think this server is equipped for medical emergencies

[white dawn]

I recommend nuts, berries, shrooms, or inhalers.

[lean fossil]

...no no I meant like this is torture

[exotic frigate]

Sloops and shards?

Like- to reduce machine counts

[lean fossil]

No....the real torture is making nuclear power houses

AND PROJECT ASSSEMMBMERMEYYYYYYY

[exotic frigate]

Ah

[lean fossil]

WHAT THE HELL IS A PASTA?

[analog citrus]

And about de "minning point" ex: iron / copper... (i dont have the word in english) we have to create many minning spot? or juste linking them by the conveyors in the main place ?

[lean fossil]

I CAN MAKE IT IN MY HOUSE NO PROBLEM BUT WHY DO YOU NEED TO EAT YOURE A GOD DAMN ROBOT I HATE YOU ADA

[lean fossil]

they're infinite

if that's what you're asking

[exotic frigate]

Nuclear pasta is an actual theorized material.

Neutron stars compress neutrons so close together their fields intertwine into strings and layers, like spaghetti and lasagna. Therefore nuclear pasta

[lean fossil]

If not then speak in your native language then we can use a translator since I didn't really understand that

[lean fossil]

oh my god WHY SCIIIEENECE

Right now I've made iron copper and wires really nice.

they outdid my god damn steel factory and that's not great

Since now I need encased BEAMS FOR NUCLEAR WAGAMOLI

WHICH MEANS I NEED TO REWORK ANOTHER FACTORY

[exotic frigate]

Nodes are located all over the map. Each one can have one big mining drill on it at a time. If you ever need more than a miner can put out, you can always find another, and use belts to bring it over

[lean fossil]

WHICH WILL NEED MORE POWER

I've reached a point where i have to expand but I cant

Ion really think 10 encased beam per minute for a uranium cell is good enough

[analog citrus]

ok but its better to places many building on each minning spot or just bring them after drilled by conveyors ?

[fluid sapphire]

wym

[lean fossil]

To expand I need power
I cant get power
To get power I need to expand
I cant expand

[slim frost]

my machine is power hungry; #screenshots message

and i have 2 of those.. jaiks!

[white dawn]

I always recommend just building each part from scratch, all the way from ore->product. If you're in the mindset of needing to build out a whole new line each time, then the fact that you're making more steel beams (or whatever) isn't a big deal

[lean fossil]

I'm making less.

[fluid sapphire]

build some power storage, surely you have some overhead

if you mean power to kickstart more power generation

[exotic frigate]

The deployable miners can have a lot on them. Each node can only have one big miner on it, so you cant add more drills on a node

[lean fossil]

I sure do...but they run out in 5 minutes when I plug them off holy shit

[fluid sapphire]

how much capacity you got?

[exotic frigate]

Turn off major production sites until you have more power

[lean fossil]

20k mw

consumption is 19.3k

[exotic frigate]

Each factory i make i separate it from the grid via a power switch

[lean fossil]

If I add one tiny little bit of adjustment It's OVER

[fluid sapphire]

i meant battery capacity, because its clearly not enough if it runs out in 5 min

[lean fossil]

That's genius

[white dawn]

<nitpick>Thats 20GW, btw. Or, if you must, 20,000 MW. a "kMW" doesn't exist. :D </nitpick>

[lean fossil]

I don't know

[lean fossil]

rureahrahruhreahrokhoeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[exotic frigate]

Its mainly in case I ever need to cut power for a restart, or a little overhead

[lean fossil]

whats so funny is that I have so much production on my copper thing...but it wont work efficiently without the NEW AND IMPROVED I WANT TO DIE belt

wait im stupid cant i js use..

[tall lantern]

...two belts

[lean fossil]

JACKPOT

Now I use even mroe power because my machines are working fine

[exotic frigate]

Lmao i love this guy's energy

[lean fossil]

Like I'm petty enough to handcraft shit

This isnt handcraftable.

[exotic frigate]

Anyway, turn off major production till you get nuclear

Thats my recommendation

[lean fossil]

If I turn off steel I lose access to super computers
if I turn off reinforced plates I lose access to super computers... and modular frames
if I turn off you get th epoint

IT's a loop

I'll js get started on the assembly shit

[exotic frigate]

Do you not have a stockpile before your dimensional depots?

[lean fossil]

Nevermind I give up.

[slim frost]

never give up

[lean fossil]

Last time I shut it off the stockpile was DONE in MINUTES

I'm trying to build large scale long term

IM NOT staying to ficits motto

[exotic frigate]

Well this is a short term shut off. Just until you get more power

[lean fossil]

If I do something short term I'm gonna have to delete it 9 times
I've seen that with steel

[slim frost]

after 2 hours even ficsit employes get 10 min break?

[fluid sapphire]

yeah and i get people telling me 1 container of storage is enough like bro, space is free

#screenshots message

[lean fossil]

First of all let me check if I have adaptive control idiots automated

Yeah no I applaud you for that storage

I just build a tower

I also make it loop all the way back down so I can use the bottom storage container

[west jackal]

That is an... insane ammount of storage lol

[fluid sapphire]

i am prepared for the apocalypse

[west jackal]

Or a power outage ;P

[fluid sapphire]

no fear of that

[exotic frigate]

One nuclear power plant produces 6,250 mw at full power shards, that only requires 0.5 rods/m

[fluid sapphire]

my power generation is not dependent on any external factors and i have almost 1 terawatt hours of power storage

[exotic frigate]

Uranium rods

[lean fossil]

oh yeah my encased beams are enough

happy noises

my cable that I put inside the storage in the image is now stuck in a perputual loop

[lean fossil]

I dont even think that's how you spell it

[fluid sapphire]

@lean fossil make bigger

[lean fossil]

that was me showing you how I do it...
that's not how large I build it

[fluid sapphire]

aaah

[lean fossil]

Don't say that it sounds weird

I wish the floor lights were...better in th egame honestly

I'm not sure if it's realistic or not but I just want it to cover an area not be a beam

[fluid sapphire]

lights look weird, i gave up long ago

bad for framerate too

[white dawn]

What's most realistic about the lights is using up 4MW for that beam. :D

[lean fossil]

Huh....I'm not supposed to power it with a gigantic giganto?

[lean fossil]

yeah I understood that after making a blueprint.

[white dawn]

My theory is that there's not actually any intentionally-light-emitting components, and the "lights" are actually a side effect of the heat from furiously mining cryptocurrencies or something. :D

[lean fossil]

I really wanted to make a huge connected light that just turns off when you use the clap emote.

[west jackal]

Yeah im doing max clean nuclear 🙂

[lean fossil]

Why would you be eco friendly.

[west jackal]

Well ig its max? It could be more if I made uranium...

[lean fossil]

Pour it in the water

[west jackal]

I dont want to deal with full bins

[mortal ginkgo]

UMMMM ATCHUALLLYYYYYYYYYEH

🤓

[lean fossil]

make the conveyor go through the water then get rid of the uranium waste

[lean fossil]

Get the hell away from me you're IMPURE

HELPPP MEEEEEE HE'S GONNA GIVE ME A HEARTATTACK

[mortal ginkgo]

I am the harbringer of foolishness and IMPURE thoughts

[lean fossil]

To hel with this

[mortal ginkgo]

I will tell you it is bad for ecosystem and you are not thinking about humans 15.000+ years later.

[lean fossil]

With this tressure I summon.

[mortal ginkgo]

Which may or may not suffer.

But then if humanity didn't solve Nuclear Waste issue in 15.000 years, maybe it was all for nothing regardless.

[lean fossil]

Eight handled

Sword divergent sila Divine general

MAHHOOOORAGAAAAAAAAA HELLLLLLPEPLPEPEEEEE**

[mortal ginkgo]

anyway, its cool to go full nuclear

including full fisco

[west jackal]

Off-topic do you know if storage crates have a limit on inventory?

[slim frost]

sounds like you in the need of some help Marwy?

[west jackal]

Or could you in theory death crates to hold infinite waste?

[mortal ginkgo]

they have a limit yes, they can carry a lot but eventually game creates another one

[tardy totem]

.

[mortal ginkgo]

you can still get away with plutonium waste and make a storage far away that can last up to 10k hours gametime.

[west jackal]

Yeah didnt want to have a limit really, thats why im doing full chain

[mortal ginkgo]

go for it, make the setup slowly if you are not a youtuber and do it for the entertainment

[sterile blade]

Seeing how the chat immediately degenerated, I fully believe this

[slim frost]

im playin a game where all nodes is impure, powercost is 5x, and cost recipe is 2x.. just to top it off, i have 100x space elevator multiplier.. this is challanging guys 😄

[mortal ginkgo]

you have a clippy pfp, you are the LAST person in the ENTIRE REALITY AND ALL DIMENSIONS to comment on this

[mortal ginkgo]

it is tedious, and annoying.

but hey, if you think its challenging, I wont stop you

[slim frost]

its a fight just to get out of starting pit

[supple canopy]

clippy just wants to help man

[mortal ginkgo]

[Insert Off Topic I Comment About It All]

[turbid ether]

is there a blueprints channel?

[exotic frigate]

How big are you guys building nuclear?

[ebon marten]

I never get that far

[shy temple]

Such truths!

[fluid sapphire]

i have to do 500GW if i want to cross the 1TW line

[exotic frigate]

Ah ok

[reef basin]

no, as sharing files is forbidden by #rules afaik

[turbid ether]

oh

[river ingot]

I would image its so people don't download and run cool_blueprint.exe

[turbid ether]

so why is there a website with blueprints to download?

[fluid sapphire]

no affiliation

[river ingot]

3rd party
Not official

[fluid sapphire]

whatever site you are thinking isnt linked to this server

[turbid ether]

oh

[river ingot]

Even if it is/was linked here its safer for coffee stain to link a well known 3rd party site than let random discord users send random files

[turbid ether]

i see

[reef basin]

because website doesn't play by rules of this server?

[river ingot]

I would imagine that blueprint website has file type restrictions and validations to make sure someone isn't trying to upload malware

While discord, not really
And frankly people on discord are not smart and get hacked ALL the time

[turbid ether]

lol

[supple canopy]

currently building 12 uFR => 16 pFR => 40 Fisconium
(8 pFR will go to sink/used as vehicle fuel)
(might sloop ficsonium production)

and this is the current state of construction (I started 3 weeks ago) #screenshots message

[earnest condor]

All 😏

[untold moat]

any specific reason that the u and p in UFR and PFR are not capitalized?

[dusk galleon]

Do people have recommendations for planning tools that don't just automatically give the ideal layout, I want to figure it out

[supple canopy]

not at all I just find it easier to read this way

[untold moat]

fair enough. just piqued my curiosity

[supple canopy]

I use Satisfactory Modeler, you can drag an input and it lists you all the recipes you can use for it

[untold moat]

so you want a tool that just gives you the vague item flow for a given end product, but doesn't tell you logistics?

[untold moat]

thats the steam one, right?

[dusk galleon]

I want something that gives logistics, but I actually set it up instead of just putting what I want and it gives me everything

[dusk galleon]

I will try that

[supple canopy]

yep, but you can get it standalone i don't remember where

[untold moat]

if you want item flow without giving you everything like SCIM does, Greeny's SatisfactoryTools is very useful

[dusk galleon]

I don't want it to give me item flow, I want to figure it out

[untold moat]

then yeah, modler will probably be your best bet

that or make your own custom excel

[supple canopy]

example here #streams-and-videos message

[shy temple]

Yeah, even google docs if you want to figure it out too.

Kind of tree it down one component at a time. Highlighting with color. Then can add it up.

I should start doing that. My old brain isnt what it used to be

[neat anvil]

Is there any way to place things that are encroaching on elevators?

[glossy scarab]

guys i need help

its a bit of a long message, so sorry in advance

[wide sonnet]

i've been using draw.io to make diagrams and do the math

[glossy scarab]

i make 40 screws a minute x 7, and 20 iron plates a minute x 4. every 4 screws take 1 iron rod to make. reinforced iron plate needs 6 normal plates and 12 screws a every 12 secounds. to make. modular frames i need 3 reinforced iron plates and 12 iron rods every 30 secounds. a rotor needs 5 iron rods and 25 screws every 15 secounds. I can change around the rods/screws machines to turn into any one of them (iron rods, steel plates, screws) What is the best possible combination I can do to make all of these materials the most effective way? I also need an excess of reinforced Iron plates in order to build many other things. I would like around 50 excess reinforced plates a minute, but would settle for less. Simply put: I make 240 iron ingots a minute. Im early game. I need reinforced iron plates, modular frames, and rotors.

lol

[neat anvil]

Theres a site that can calculate all this for you if you put in what things you have and what you want out of it called satisfactory tools,

[late pumice]

guys

[wide sonnet]

50 reinforced plates/min with 240 ingots? I don't think that's doable. go find more iron. there's so many nodes

[late pumice]

question
is retaliate mode ever gonna get fixed or is it gonna stay like that

and is 600 Power storages enough for tapping all the geysers?

[glossy scarab]

thx guys, again im new

[wide sonnet]

otherwise, it's just math. you know the numbers, do some multiplicaton

[glossy scarab]

where do i find satisfactory tools?

[neat anvil]

No pressure BUT if you’re using that tool make SURE it’s not giving you something with too high items going through a belt

[late pumice]

no? no one?

[neat anvil]

Browser

[wide sonnet]

i have no idea

[cold berry]

Alt recipe ideas; super bolted frame- output; 2 heavy duty frames. Input; 1 heavy duty frame, 1200 screws

[supple canopy]

wdym get fixed? It doesn't work?
As for power storages I never used them, so yes 600 should be enough?

[late pumice]

retaliate mode doesent work, only for flying crabs

when you hit a hog they instead run away

same with stingers…and spitters

[cold berry]

I wish retaliate mode worked. I also wish that there was an option for "only big monsters trigger attacks". But then when you do trigger one, all are aggro'd

That'd be a nice middle ground for literally just me and maybe others who want less combat, but not no combat

As is, I turn off combat until I get the rifle, as it annoys me lol. But I did a playthrough up to that point with it on. ||That's how I know it annoys me||

[supple canopy]

oh, it used to work so idk, check if it was reported on the Q&A site or upvote it if it was

[cold berry]

||I just wanna build a factory and I'm not equipped enough for this||

[supple canopy]

yea I'm building in the red pillars and there was a spot with 4 ALPHA STINGERS I turned peaceful mode on, no time for this shit lol

[glossy scarab]

how do i use satisfactory tools

once im here

[cold berry]

Wrench good for screwing in stuff like bolts and such

Hammer for whacking. Screwdrivers

[glossy scarab]

how do i put a weird number of recourses into a constructor? like 76

[wise junco]

hewwo

[glossy scarab]

oh hello again

may you teach me how to use satisfactory tools?

[white dawn]

Machines will only consume as much material as they're told to. If you've got a set of machines which can consume 76/min, then so long as you're belting at least 76/min into them, it'll even out over time.

[neat anvil]

Yes, in the production tab you set items you want and the amount per minute you can also change this to maximum which will make the maximum amount with what resources you have available, “items, inputs” section is where you set all raw materials that YOU have access to

[white dawn]

One of the most common ways of dealing with it is with a "manifold," which looks like this: ```
[S]: Splitter | [M]: Merger | [B]: Building

          [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [M] ---> [Output]
           ^        ^        ^        ^
           |        |        |        |
          [B]      [B]      [B]      [B]
           ^        ^        ^        ^
           |        |        |        |

[Source] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S] ---> [S]

If you're only used to "balancing" things out, that may look like it's totally uneven, but once you give it enough time to "warm up," every machine will be running at 100% efficiency (so long as you're feeding it enough material and haven't screwed up the belting, etc)

[neat anvil]

If you want it to use a specific recipe or to not use a recipe change it in the recipe tab

[glossy scarab]

here is what my satisfactory tools says: https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=WFmKDNQlAV4oYkruAHRZ

[neat anvil]

What about it?

[glossy scarab]

its just confusing to look at... for me...

[neat anvil]

where you see the lines split you need a conveyor splitters, and make sure you belts can handle that amount per minute

[white dawn]

One thing which usually helps is just doing one graph per output, btw. It's not too bad at the stage you're at now, but it'll quickly become unweildy

So like instead of trying to do Rotors+RIPs+MFs all in the same graph, do three different graphs

[neat anvil]

Also invest in searching for hard drives making nails is a nightmare with pipes, there is an alternate recipe to make nails straight from iron

[white dawn]

You might still be feeding them all from the same miner, but keeping the production lines totally separate can make things a lot easier

And it's the same amount of "factory" either way; just less confusing.

[neat anvil]

It’s confusing but totally worth it since you will probably need it for late game, stuff gets wicked

[white dawn]

That graph in particular does look a little weird 'cause you're specifying a lot of "Iron Ingot" inputs on the Input tab, btw. I suspect that the solver doesn't actually understand having multiple of the same item in there

If you are importing 240/min Iron Ingots from somewhere else, to feed the factory, you'd probably want to specify a single "Iron Ingot" input and put in 240, instead of having 60+60+60+30+30

[serene jolt]

Can’t live without cast screws

[neat anvil]

Fr

[neat anvil]

For my current factory, im making 525 per minute for Crystal oscillators, computers and circuit boards

[serene jolt]

Dang

150 steel sheets and casing overkill or no

Per minute

[neat anvil]

Nope

[serene jolt]

Crap

More needed?

[neat anvil]

Nothing is overkill when it comes to productivity

[white dawn]

Trying to "plan for the future" is kind of a trap. There's no way to know unless you literally plan out the rest of your game's production lines

I always advise just making exactly what you need Right Now™, in the knowledge that you'll build more later when you need to

[serene jolt]

Oh ok

[white dawn]

You're building the same amount of factory anyway, but that way there's no guesswork

[hollow kelp]

im so excited for 1.2 but i donno if i should just restart and play on the experimental build or not (in posting this i have a feeling i will be told to just go play 1.2 lol)
if i do should i port over my current save if possible or just restart. I just started Phase 4 and so it kinda feel like i just started the game lol

[neat anvil]

I’m making 10 crystal oscillators 15 computer and 58 circuit boards, once it’s done…

[glossy scarab]

when can i unlock constructor settings?

[white dawn]

(That does mean that you're gonna end up making rotors (for instance) in, like, dozens of different factories throughout the game. But that's great! More opportunities to use different alts, build factories in different locations, Build Better Than You Did Last Time™, etc)

[neat anvil]

Power slugs in the mam

[glossy scarab]

i have like 4

[white dawn]

You can always load a savegame from an "older" version of the game into a "newer" version of the game. Your current savegame on Public will load just fine on Experimental. Any game you save (or blueprint you save!) on Experimental cannot be brought back to the current public version of the game. But once v1.2 is released, you can keep on playing the savegames that you were using in Experimental

[neat anvil]

Go to the power slug research tree you will find it

[hollow kelp]

oh sick, i didn't know that it would be able to cross back over. Maybe i might restart now that im not so incompetent lol

[white dawn]

Yeah, the versioning is sort of a continuum. Make backups, of course, just in case!

[ruby narwhal]

Does a mod exist that changes the project assembly goals to items/min (say sustained over 10 mins) instead a total volume of deliveries?

[torn willow]

small little question not really a help thing, so i come from factorio and thats what ive mainly played for a good while so i keep trying to go with like a main bus but i dont feel like thats the best choice? unsure

[neat anvil]

Bus conveyors?

[torn willow]

yes, like a main bus of belts yeah

[neat anvil]

They work just fine, I don’t do them though I like trains

[torn willow]

yeah nah i dont mean like long range ones, i main like, say inside the main factory theres the main bus with 3 or so belts of each material and then i draw from there for whatever needs

but idk why it might just be me but it feels weird on this game idk

[neat anvil]

Nah it’s totally fine, if it looks good to you then its fine

[plucky bone]

!!!! 35 more parts for PH 5!! Stoked for sure

[torn willow]

i think its just the size of things throwing me off compared to factorio each machine is much more compact and youre not limited on wich side of entry (for most things) so i think thats whats throwing me off, i need to get used to that

that was all though thanks

[shy temple]

Yeah, the scale definitely changes your perception of things plus the more usage of verticality to consider.

If you really want a main bus type play or what you are more comfortable with, there is a way that works reasonably well.

It tricky right now, but with 1.2 it will become really viable. Using vehicles.

[torn willow]

ill just thug it out and if it doesnt work i can change it later, sucks factorio made me a perfectionist lmao

[shy temple]

Making many routes with trucks can be a bit finicky with getting the initial route laid out if dont do truck stops well. Trains are really good for longer distance too, but because cars are in an order... well, if you are used to factorio, it is chill.

One of the main things about satisfactory size is remember the map is huge too, so take advantage of space.

[faint willow]

Man I'm having a hell of a time planning out how to belt my steel ingot refinery.

I got iron and coal belting from opposite directions and also completely different elevations.

[worn oar]

I like one to use conveyor lifts and one on the ground or foundations

[shy temple]

Well, just remember you can snap lifts directly to machines and snap splitters directly to lifts. That is my common strategy

[faint willow]

Oh like have splitters that run one of the ingredients down?

[worn oar]

Correct, a manifold can take any direction you want, even vertical

[shy temple]

Yuppers!

[faint willow]

Is it possible to do a Christmas tree belt setup like that?

[exotic frigate]

You line up your machines, and put splitters all along it, and you can do this for as many inputs as you require, just go up

[shy temple]

Vertical branching splitters is very doable.

[worn oar]

I wasn't even aware there was another way to do manifolds than running splitters along the length o.O

[exotic frigate]

There's not really a good reason not to do this other than building restrictions

[shy temple]

Collector style manifolds can help with priming, but does take some vertical space.

I usually don't worry about that, but I think I will do that for the compacted coal plant I am making here so I can show.

[worn oar]

I guess you could make a "spine" where the ingredients run down a line and then the splitted belts run down parallel until they reach their machines

[void cliff]

so is there like a trick to making vertical splitters work in blueprints?

[worn oar]

What is a collector style manifold?

[faint willow]

Ladies and gentlemen, I forgot to bring the god damn modular frames to build the foundries

[worn oar]

I present to you: the to-do list

[shy temple]

Oh, it is where you do a couple initial splits. Like 1-2-4 for example.

[faint willow]

You wanna know the worst part?

I have the to-do list up

[ivory condor]

[shy temple]

Sort of what you called a christmas tree. I am a car guy so I used to call it log manifold and collector manifold

It is more work to set up, so I sort of don't bother. I just prime the system before turning it on now.

Give me 30 minutes, I really want to do it now with stubbies so I can really make it a mess.

[faint willow]

Think I might be doing this wrong

#screenshots message

Trying to figure out how this would work or if I'm grossly overcomplicating it

Which honestly I wouldn't put it past me

[earnest condor]

Do you have smart splitters unlocked?

[faint willow]

God I wish

[earnest condor]

I would say go get them?

You can unlock smarts during Phase 1. It's just in the MAM.

That way for steel you can just put everything on 1 belt instead of complicating it with over/under lift stuff.

[halcyon sinew]

i dont necessarily think its complicating, as they'd have to drag one belt to the opposite side anyways, and sushi is most definitely more complicated

[supple rain]

I love sushi belts but so often the stuff I need to build requires me to use multiple belts for each thing anyways for throughput

I don't get many chances to use them

[halcyon sinew]

yeah unless youre playing with something that adds fine tuned programmable merging, it can be messy a lot of the time

[earnest condor]

How is the simplest belt method... complicated?

[halcyon sinew]

i guess for steel it isnt too bad since its 1:1

[earnest condor]

Even when you get to the mk6?

[halcyon sinew]

you want one of the belts to go all the way past the machines, just to circle back in a sushi belt

it will still be 2 belts, just 1 takes a detour

[earnest condor]

That would be the incorrect way to build it, and if that's what people believe they are supposed to do I understand why they avoid it...

[halcyon sinew]

that is what their image showed with their inputs

[earnest condor]

Never loop back, that's what causes sushi to break.

[supple rain]

my saves don't usually last tha tlong

[halcyon sinew]

oh no i dont mean loop back yeah

[supple rain]

I haven'tg ottne there much

[earnest condor]

😭 but that's when the game really begins 😭

[supple rain]

I'm hoping this save will though

I can put all of my project parts on the same belt

going all around my factory

[earnest condor]

Steel is the first place I recommend sushi, because the mk3 has the capacity to let you start doing it at decent scale.

[halcyon sinew]

this just reminds me of factorio science sushi

[supple rain]

it's the same spirit

[earnest condor]

I don't automate Project Parts 😄

[covert trout]

i know its a bad quesion... when does 1.2 comes out

[earnest condor]

When it is ready.

[halcyon sinew]

hopefully not soon, it is buggy

[worn oar]

Interesting, I automate project parts as soon as possible so they fill while I do the rest of the two associated tiers

[supple rain]

oh that does remind me

I experienced a small and strange bug today

[covert trout]

was fluid actually fixed

[supple rain]

is there a channel for reporting it that I can look at later

[halcyon sinew]

i usually automate project parts because worst case scenario, they just build up while you're finishing the rest / can be sunk

[supple rain]

or do I do that on a website

[halcyon sinew]

no is the simple answer

[earnest condor]

Burst production with the power of somersloops allows you to reduce their cost by up to 16x depending on which phase you're in.

[supple rain]

I usually have all of my sloops reserved for nuclear

[earnest condor]

Something I would build after launching. So I no longer need somers for Project Parts at that point.

I usually beat the game on about 20-30 GW of power tops.
Then I start building permanent things for fun and delete everything I used purely for progression.

[halcyon sinew]

half of the game is the progression line, the other half is your creativity and desires

[earnest condor]

Most extreme of disagrees, personally.

Project Assembly is like... 10% of total time if that.

[halcyon sinew]

half is subjective, some people might be done after project assembly

but yeah i know what you mean

[earnest condor]

Some people see launch as the end of the game, yeah.
I see the mk5 belt as the beginning, and Phase 5 is "mid game".

[halcyon sinew]

well im curious, do you think project assembly drags at all? is there anything you dislike prior to getting mk5

[faint willow]

Meanwhile I'm working on this steel foundry still running on biofuel because I've been procrastinating with liquids. I know where a coal deposit is, but trying to understand the basics from scratch is a bit overwhelming. Tried to take inspiration from others' designs but then I see these giant megastructures for coal power and I'm just dumbfounded.

[earnest condor]

Define "drag" so I know how to answer? Plz 💛

[halcyon sinew]

if it's your first playthrough, all you really need to know about liquids is that its like a belt but for liquid and there's no difference between a merger and a splitter
there are a lot of tricks to avoid more annoying mechanics with liquids, but just know you can use a pump as a valve and not allow liquid to travel backwards (and if you're going up a long distance, make sure to use a pump)

don't worry about anything more complicated than that for now

[earnest condor]

Which basics do you need?

[halcyon sinew]

tedious / boring

[next ivy]

building

[faint willow]

Anything, really. Reading what alex said.
I'm a very new player and only have a biofuel setup.

[earnest condor]

Boring yes. Because it's a finite "make this and never make it again" mechanic.

[earnest condor]

Ok so the information the game doesn't give you is that coal gens eat 15 coal/min and 45 water/min.

Everything else you need is in the building descriptions.

[faint willow]

I'm on the grassy area, mostly just got that lake right next to the coal deposit so I'm not super concerned. It's moreso the how.

Anything significant I gotta worry about with such a small movement path?

[halcyon sinew]

not really

just make sure when you first turn on the generators that you give them time to balance out as it can take a few minutes

[hollow mountain]

How much mw you guys produce per minute? Im at 5700 with 16 fuel generator i feel like im gonna need to build a HUGE amount of them

[earnest condor]

Turn the water on first, let it fill, then the coal.

[earnest condor]

Power, right?

[hollow mountain]

Yeah

[earnest condor]

My standard Phase 2 coal is 3.6 GW.

[hollow mountain]

With coal? Damn

[halcyon sinew]

a tad overkill

[hollow mountain]

Do you cover the entire lake?

[earnest condor]

First oil setup adds 2.5 GW more to that.

[halcyon sinew]

do you do turbo or nitro, or do you just wait for nuclear?

[hollow mountain]

My first real oil setup is 4 GW

[earnest condor]

The first oil setup is Residual Fuel from the HOR byproduct.

[hollow mountain]

Wow that look cool

[halcyon sinew]

ahhhhh that makes sense, there is not really a downside to overclockinggens

[earnest condor]

Shards are infinite.

[halcyon sinew]

yep

[hollow mountain]

I use turbo fuel

I dont have rocket yet

[halcyon sinew]

rocket is fine, i just wouldnt bother with ionized

[faint willow]

Okay so I unlocked smart splitters finally

[hollow mountain]

I dont even use smart splitters i dont know where i could use them

[halcyon sinew]

theyre good for sushi

and overflow sinking

[earnest condor]

#screenshots message
If you don't want to wait for the Fuel Gen unlock, standard first oil setup can still net you +1.35 GW if you just put Coke in the Coal Gens.

[halcyon sinew]

looks like dyno had some input on that

[earnest condor]

Welcome to the real world Neo. 💛

[earnest condor]

I would!

It's a good fuel and a fun build.

[halcyon sinew]

fun build definitely

[earnest condor]

And we just disproved the "power negative" claim in #math-and-meta

[halcyon sinew]

yeahhh ive been snooping

[earnest condor]

So at worst it goes equal, but you gain infinite shard production from it.
And it is also simple to make if you closed-loop the byproducts -- eliminating coal and sulfur from the production cost entirely.

Although coal can be reintroduced depending on how you want to make Diamonds.

[halcyon sinew]

ahhh... i found out my flickering issue, for some reason global illumination got turned on

[earnest condor]

I did Oil Diamonds, so my only inputs for Ionized were:

• Oil
• Quartz Crystal
• Nitric Acid

Simple, easy.

@faint willow if you need any help with sushi, shoot me a message!

[faint willow]

Just might, but not rn. Gathering up some caterium.

[earnest condor]

I have smarts bound directly to my bar because I rarely use normal splitters anymore 😄

[faint willow]

I guess I have the stuff now

My question is now moreso the "how" when I have iron and coal going in opposite directions.

[earnest condor]

Oh you'll have to bring them into one belt going one direction. But you cannot exceed the speed of that belt.
So it's usually best to get the mk3 belt before doing fun stuff.

[faint willow]

I have Mk3 belts unlocked, that's why I'm actually doing the foundry rn

[hollow mountain]

People online made liquide and pipeline look scary but its so ez to deal with

Does liquid become a problem only when you have a LOT of it?

[earnest condor]

No. Liquid becomes a problem when you try to think about pipes in terms of belts.

When you treat pipes as pipes it is simple.

[hollow mountain]

Ohhh yeah

Belt dont have physic. They just move at the same speed

[earnest condor]

@faint willow your splitter settings should be:

Ore to the Right, Overflow to the center.
Alternate which ore (you have 1 smart per input).

Final "overflow" goes to a sink that is there to cover when the game fucks up. It shouldn't actually ever turn on, but it will like once per hour.

[faint willow]

@earnest condor #screenshots message

You saying run coal + ore on the same line? Just adjust the settings to pop out in increments as it reaches the input boxes?

[earnest condor]

That is the definition of sushi. Putting multiple item types on the same belt and using smarts to pull off the desired input.

^ Phrasing chosen on purpose.
Think of smarts less as "splitters" and more as "grabby arms that PULL the item you want off the belt."

[faint willow]

OH! I'm stupid, it's cuz sushi belt mixes a little bit of everything on one line. Okay okay, I get it now.

[earnest condor]

😄

The failsafe is also why they are unbreakable.
They cannot clog or stall. You can send the wrong items down the line and they will not care. They just pass it on to be sunk.

In larger builds, because the failsafe shouldn't fire, you can link multiple sushi lines to a single sink instead of wasting tons of space with 1 sink per line.

[night dust]

is there a way to recycle the water thats made from aluminum scrap refinerys to put it back into the first set to help make the solution?

[earnest condor]

Yes, but it is simpler to just send it to other machines.

[earnest condor]

What recipes are you using?

[faint willow]

Okay so you mentioned overflow, which I'm assuming is when something causes items to stack up just enough to not want to split properly. So you feed that back into the main line to be re-fed? I'm just trying to understand.

[night dust]

sloppy alluminum into the electrode aluminum scrap

[earnest condor]

Look at the image, and see how nothing is fed back, ever.
Feedback is how you break sushi and cause it to stop working.

[earnest condor]

Bauxite input amount?

[night dust]

baux and water at 200pm

[earnest condor]

You sure you want your bauxite that low?

How much could you have if you overclocked the miner and ramped it up?

(Will do the maths if I have the number, you just need it higher than 200 to make it simple)

[night dust]

had to find the veins sorry

[earnest condor]

They are usually next to the arteries 😉

[night dust]

780 in total split to 8 refineries

lol

[cursive topaz]

At what tier do you gain access to synthetic power shards?

[atomic venture]

9

[cursive topaz]

Damn

[night dust]

all miners close to the plant fully clocked only get me to 1200 per minute

but i cant find out how to reroute the water at the end back to the beginning of the plant without some serious backflow

[earnest condor]

Ok so if you're using 780 Baux:

You need 390% Refineries to process it from Sloppy. With a fresh water input of 234/min

Clock your first Refinery to 117% and give it the 234 entirely.
Build 2 more, clock each of them to 136.5%, feed them exclusively from byproduct water.

You need 520% Electrode Scrap Refineries.
If you have 4 of them clocked at 130% each, you can feed their byproduct 2:1 back to the Sloppy. (combine 2 of the Scrap outputs and it will directly feed 1 of the Sloppy inputs)

[cursive topaz]

This is some next level shit

Ik what yall are talking about but the precision

[night dust]

you talking about the sloppy refines?

[earnest condor]

Wait. Sorry I am having too many conversations at once right now 😭 one sec.

Editing

[earnest condor]

Fixed with all information. Sorry.

Recycling without any of the messy fresh + dirty water combination.

[night dust]

so its easier to waaay easier to keep the old and fresh seperate and im terrible at math lol

[earnest condor]

Waaaaay easier, yes.

And I did the math for you 💛

Because I like puzzles 🙃

I can even build this on my test world if you needed a visual.

[night dust]

help is much appreciated, i havent ever gotten into anything past tier three until now

[earnest condor]

Do you want me to build it?

[jade bronze]

The FICS discord tag could be FXIT, if you say that it does just kinda sound like the whole of Ficsit.

Free pepsi. Nice

[night dust]

how do i take a screenshot on pc

[jade bronze]

On steam F12, or you can take a screenshot with windows with Shift+WindowsKey+S and selecting an area. Alternatively, the prtsc key on your keyboard the oldschool way.

[earnest condor]

Press P for PhotoMode.

[quick hound]

Why do I play this game.. I hate math

[serene jolt]

I love this game and hate it at the same time

[serene jolt]

Satisfactory tools does most of it for you

[earnest condor]

Because you have a partner who does the math for you allowing you to focus on pretty builds?

[quick hound]

but that involves.. not destroying a planet for 3 seconds

[quick hound]

no :(

[serene jolt]

Hmm. So you want to blow things up? Destroying things in the process?

[earnest condor]

Go on Tinder and specifically talk about Satisfactory in your bio 😏

Or Grindr, we don't judge here.

[quick hound]

I’m the kind of guy who wants to ruin the planet to make it so uninhabitable that future clones die before entering the atmosphere

[earnest condor]

We aren't clones 😭

[night dust]

i tried to not make platforms above all the uneven ground and stuff but i gave up

[serene jolt]

Hmm. Helldivers… big explosions. No further explanation needed

[quick hound]

What’s that?

[earnest condor]

Go make the most capitalism building ever.
Just conveyor belts of bullets, grenades, Oil Barrels, and bacon.

[quick hound]

https://tenor.com/view/bacon-food-gif-12583283796040549115

Awh

[earnest condor]

Oh that reminds me to check something on 1.2, brb

[serene jolt]

Uhh. Space racism with explosions and peak gameplay.

That’s really not a great explanation of what it is but also fully accurate at the same time

[small crypt]

Yeah just make sure you consent to them collecting and selling your data

[quick hound]

???

[small crypt]

Few weeks after it got released they forced everyone who already owned the game to make and link a PSN account so they could collect their data, or not be able to play anymore. Then recently the whack ass freaks that somehow still play the game for some reason doxxed a guy hosting a charity event with the devs and got him fired because he had some kind of criticism of the difficulty curve, sent death threats to him and his wife and the animal shelter he was working for ended up closing. Garbage people playing a garbage game.

[west jackal]

What platform are you talking about? Because I never linked a psn account on pc..?

[hollow mountain]

Nan i remember that. Backlash was so bad steam was giving refunds even after playing 2h. Now some playstation game on steam require you a psn account

[earnest condor]

@lethal berry Good is a point of view, Anakin.

[lethal berry]

wise words to live by🙏

[untold moat]

for steam, after the massive backlash, they removed the PSN link requirement, but didn't lift their essential shadow ban in a couple dozen countries IIRC

[wary cobalt]

@dusk lake

[hollow kelp]

in the experimental branch, what is the purpose/use of being able to connect 2 machines to each other if you can make no further connections?

[earnest condor]

Have you unlocked Power Storages in your 1.1 world?

[hollow kelp]

yes?

[earnest condor]

You know how you chain those together and can still have the input connection and the output connection from the entire line?

Same concept.

The daisy chain is 2 connections per machine.
So the first one is input + next machine.
The entire middle is previous + next.
And the final is previous + output.

[hollow kelp]

but can't power storage have multiple connections whereas the constructors have only 1?

[earnest condor]

Power Storage can have exactly 2.
The 1.2 change is giving that function to all machines.

[hollow kelp]

i feel so dumb lol i have a screenshot ill send in #screenshots but it wont let me daisy off of the 2nd machine once two have been connected

[earnest condor]

Are you on 1.2?

[hollow kelp]

yes you just can't see the thing in the corner because i cropped the photo

[earnest condor]

Then this should have been in #satisfactory-experimental 😭 I will give you what you're missing over there.

[hollow kelp]

oop-

mb

[faint willow]

Is it normal to get a notification of a server restart mid-session? Didn't think this was live-service.

[small crypt]

touch grass my guy

game server restarts every 24 hours

[earnest condor]

Rude?

[faint willow]

oh, kek... also i kinda left the game going while i was out and about with friends

whoops

[small crypt]

while resting is not an activity valued by ficsit, being unable to work due to fatigue is heavily frowned upon

[hollow kelp]

GUYS

I GOT CAST SCREWS ON MY FIRST HARD DRIVEEEEEE

YESSSSSSSS

[earnest condor]

There's a way to guarantee that afaik, but 🥳 nonetheless.

[small crypt]

make sure to get stitched iron plate and steel rotor before the pool gets too vast

or do a lot of explorin

[worn oar]

Where's the fun in guaranteeing yourself a recipe, just go with the flow

[earnest condor]

If you slot the drive before unlocking Part Assembly or any of the alt resources, the only options are:

• Iron Wire
• Stitched Plate
• Bolted Plate
• Cast Screw
• +6 Inventory

So with 1 reroll you have an 80% chance of getting it from the first drive, 100% if you have 2 drives.

[small crypt]

not trying to push 600 screws/min with 60/min throughput belts is where the fun is

When you spawn there are 2 recipes in the pool, cast screws and iron wire

[earnest condor]

By the time you get the MAM the RIP ones can be in there since you have RIPs unlocked.

You just need to keep the Caterium, Quartz, Sulfur ones out, and block the addition of CSheet, Rotor, and Frame ones.

Which is fairly simple since the MAM milestone should be the second one you do in Phase 1.

Unless the RIP ones are tied to the Assembler itself 🤔
In which case yeah, 100% guarantee of Cast on the first drive.

[dapper cave]

Aight. Time to get some coal going. I had to skip playing last night

[shy temple]

I think I want to steel focus for my 1.2 play. Do as much steel building as I can. All the coal!

[floral sparrow]

What does the B stand for in this diagram again?

[glacial totem]

dumb Q but what is the Awesome Sink

I can't put any resources into it

It has a picture of ingots for standard points but I can't put any ingots into it

[tepid spear]

You have to bring resources trough a belt and a container

[glacial totem]

Oh man. Ok

[tepid spear]

If you bring enough items you will get a ticket and then you can buy for Tickets something in the AWESOME Shop

[glacial totem]

ok thanks. I thought I could feed them by hand.

[tepid spear]

Np

[floral sparrow]

It took me a long time to realise that you can build multiple sinks

[tepid spear]

Here is a link for all items and the use: https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/AWESOME_Sink

[glacial totem]

Thanks but I don't use wiki. I figure things out or I ask here

[tepid spear]

Ok

[glacial totem]

with the ratio being mostly asking on here

10% on my own

[tepid spear]

One important thing is that different Items give different amounts of points. Just test a bit around

[glacial totem]

cool thanks

does it only pull from a storage container if that container is full?

or is it going to steal all my goodies

[tepid spear]

No the storage container does not have to be full but you have to be aware all items which goes in are destroyed

[glacial totem]

damn ok

[tepid spear]

You can also do it from like a constructer the item just has to go from a belt into the sink

[glacial totem]

I'll only hook it up to a container in which I put things I don't need

[shy temple]

That is a normal way to start. Have a trash can container

[tepid spear]

Yeah

[shy temple]

Later on you might use some more advanced splitters to sink excess stuff automatically though.

[tepid spear]

But I know as I found 30 Motors and did all of them in there

[shy temple]

Depending on how your factories are going.

[dusk lake]

?

who is this

[floral sparrow]

I set up a SAM node to pump reanimated SAM into the sink constantly when I unlocked it. Seems pretty good. Not using the SAM for much else yet

[glacial totem]

just bought the coffee cup. Let's gooo!

[shy temple]

☕

[glacial totem]

Can you please hint at where I can find "SAM"? the MAM demands it

[shy temple]

Where did you start?

[glacial totem]

what do you mean?

[shy temple]

Sam is in a few places. I can hint without spoilering depending on your start location

[glacial totem]

would my coordinates be helpful?

I don't know where I am. Southeast of the big lake

[shy temple]

Yeah, your map coordinates will work

[glacial totem]

Right now I am at -310, 2387

[shy temple]

Aaah, look around a really big arch

[hard wolf]

I've kind of been blindly trusting satisfactory tools 1.0 calculator for my factories (currently working on 10/m each of ai limiters, radio control units, supercomputers, cooling systems, fused frames, turbo motors, and heat sinks). are there any pitfalls I should be wary of or is it pretty safe?

[shy temple]

I hope that helps, it still is a bit of a challenge and not a spoiler, but will get you close

[glacial totem]

I've seen an arch over the valley between me and the lake, I'll head there

you mean like a bridge of rock between the two cliffs?

[shy temple]

Nope, not quite

[glacial totem]

oh dear

[shy temple]

A massive arch, stands out in the biome you are in

If you look around a bit, you will see and go... oh

[glacial totem]

Ok cool thanks

[shy temple]

np. Is a cool landmark

If you want a better hint, can ask too. I just don't want to spoil the exploration and discovery part of the game too much. There is actually a fair bit of sam ore around, so it isnt like a big secret, but it will save you some frustration at least.

[glacial totem]

Oh it's ore? I had no idea what I was looking for. So that's helpful enough

[shy temple]

Aaah! Well, that should help too then

[analog citrus]

Hello, where can I find coal ?

[sleek flower]

best way is to scan for coal in your surroundings (V key if i'm not mistaken)

If u started in the first simple area the best location is the lake north of the spawn
@analog citrus

And u have some nodes scattered everywhere

[analog citrus]

Ok i started in the 1rst map

Ty !

[jolly solstice]

jsyk all the spawn locations are part of one big map

[analog citrus]

« Jsyk »?

[jolly solstice]

just so you know

[analog citrus]

Ah ok thx

And all we have the same spawn point ? or the maps are random for each génération

[tepid spear]

It’s the same map but you can choose between 4 spawn points

[analog citrus]

Ok ok

And there is différent weapon in the game ?

[obsidian zodiac]

jysk is an ikea alternative in sweden

as well. in case you needed to know that

[leaden turret]

nobody's had a community highlights featured of a jysk store

is it pronounced like whisk or like [redacted]?

[obsidian zodiac]

i think its like yih-sk

[rough shore]

wow

[leaden turret]

google says it's "you-sk"

which seems worse

[obsidian zodiac]

i blame being in skane most of the time and developing the regional accent

[leaden turret]

the blame in skane falls mainly on the plain

[sleek flower]

yes there are some weapons ; but they are not that mandatory, just cool stuff to explore the map and caves

u'll get a bigger bonker eventually dw

[plain marten]

Is there a way to take a swatch from a painted wall

[young hound]

is it safe to revert back to 1.1?

[leaden turret]

save files aren't backwards compatible

[young hound]

what about the ones that i saved before the update

[leaden turret]

should be fine. always back up your save files when switching versions tho.

[young hound]

mmh

[tepid spear]

guys I have a problem... I need 600 Iron per minute but I only have the MK 1 Miner unlocked I am in Hub Tier 4 ig. When do I unlock the Miner MK 2 is it space elevator Level 3?

[obsidian zodiac]

its unlocked during tier 4 🙂

[tepid spear]

Ok thx

[obsidian zodiac]

advanced steel

[hard ivy]

What do you need 600 iron/min for before mk2 miners lol

[analog citrus]

Ok that was my question thx y vry much!

[reef basin]

You can also just get more nodes

[versed bison]

Hi chat

[fiery pewter]

Hey

[rough shore]

salutations

[willow pond]

fun discovery: a Klein IR thermometer looks really close to the Build Gun for cosplay purposes. little bit of 3D printed buttons and rails and it could be spot on

[stark blade]

ello

[stark blade]

ooo good idea

[willow pond]

cheapest one is like $40USD, which seems like it might be on par with a good quality 3D print of that size anyway

plus it'd be a fully functional tool

[stark blade]

send a screenshot of the one u have there in the screenshots channel?

cos idk if the one im looking at is the same

[willow pond]

#off-topic-media message

not too bad for a completely unrelated & previously existing product

[dapper cave]

i think ive managed to setup coal and water power lol. Was a bit confused on how the water pumping works but I think I got it. Stuff is turning on so

[willow pond]

coal is definitely one of those major points in the game where it starts to "get good" after stagnating for a little bit

[tepid spear]

for smart plating, steel and modular frames

[dapper cave]

yeah the coal mine is ages away tho which sucks tho. Im curious, can I power a coal generator using the coal im mining itself? Like loop it around? Cause i have a biomass generator powering the miner to take the coal back to base where the coal burner is.

[tall lantern]

coal power will be self-sustaining once it's up and running, yes

[dapper cave]

so i should build a second coal generator next to the mine and loop it back in on itself?

[tall lantern]

though, no need to ship it all the way back to base, just move the coal to the water (or better, build it where there's both coal and water) and build the gens there

you probably want more than one

[willow pond]

yup, keep feeding it water & coal and don't punch thru the max power output & it'll keep running

[dapper cave]

explain this. The coal mine and the water are right next to eachother

[tall lantern]

you build the gens there

[dapper cave]

Right. But all my operations are a good distance away. So how would I get the power back there?

[tall lantern]

same way you normally move power, power poles

[dapper cave]

oh yeah ig that would work

[willow pond]

power towers too

[tall lantern]

easier to move solids than fluids, and easier to move power than either of those

[dapper cave]

yeah im sick of biomass lol

[tall lantern]

power towers are nice, but probably not available to them yet

[dapper cave]

Aight lemme undo literally everything I just did and make this 10x easier

[willow pond]

if you manage to get Compact Coal as an alt recipe early and dropped in zone 1, there's a nice little single coal & sulfur node right next to a small pond that can run a cluster of coal plants

[tepid spear]

Does it give any way to turn the night off?

[willow pond]

mods can do it

can make mobs passive natively if that's a problem

[tepid spear]

no my problem is that I hate it when it gets night

[willow pond]

ah

yea, mods can do it

[tepid spear]

I look for mods in the mod manager

[reef basin]

fyi compacted coal is not alt recipe

[willow pond]

oh brain fart, yea it's in the sulfur tree now

been around too long 🤣

[glacial totem]

Can I build 12 coal generators and then run all of them through a single mk1 power pole?

[dapper cave]

saw your screenshot but I cant text there. im on the coal mine with the sulfur right next to it

[dense violet]

cables have no limits

[dense violet]

!wikisearch CG

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=CG

[dense violet]

convenient layouts, much easier to group them in 8s

[glacial totem]

oh yeah I forgot that 3 water 8 coal is the best. But you can then build more of those sets right

[reef basin]

you can build as many coal generators as you want and run them through any number of power poles

[glacial totem]

insane

those poor cables

[dense violet]

there's no real power management in the game except for having power and just connecting it up

it would be entertaining if you had to have transformers

[willow pond]

ngl i've always been a fan of isolating the power for my fuel supply lines from power for my manufacturing, that way if i overload that i don't completely knock out the entire grid

[glacial totem]

I can't even run a toaster, dishwasher and kettle at my house without blowing a fuse!

[willow pond]

does your house only have 1 circuit?

[glacial totem]

nah just those 3 things are on the same circuit

I have an old ass house from the 60s

[willow pond]

ah

one of those "1 outlet per room for 1 lamp" classics

pretty much the standard until the 90s

[glacial totem]

Yeah its mad

does the wiki cover how to maintain a relationship while being addicted to this game? she's sick of hearing about my goal generators

[willow pond]

get her a copy, both be addicted

[tall lantern]

maintaining a relationship doesn't seem particularly relevant to the mission

[reef basin]

girlfriend is inefficent

[dapper cave]

real

[mortal ginkgo]

it seems, she is an inefficient gf.

I suggest alt recipes.

[dapper cave]

Can a girlfriend build me rotors? Mine my cooper? Get this coal power up and running? No? Dont need it

[willow pond]

i'd have 3 games open rn for efficiency if i had the hardware for it 🤣

[reef basin]

Alternate: Wife

[rough shore]

crazy

[mortal ginkgo]

Well I had a gamer gf once. She farmed some stuff for me when she wasnt busy in my old WoW times.

Its all about finding the right node I guess.

[glacial totem]

Not disappointed with the responses

[rough shore]

obviously cant be an impure

[mortal ginkgo]

Ofc. a gf should be pure, or a life partner. However they should also know the value of impure limestone node.

[rough shore]

the value of a impure limestone node?

are we trolling

[willow pond]

i hope so

[normal orbit]

Not very productive unless you get it wet:p

[mortal ginkgo]

ah so you dont know my TRUE VALUE OF AWESOMENESS

[mortal ginkgo]

I mean, everyone feels better when they are wet.

[rough shore]

What

[normal orbit]

Everything's better down where it's wetter

[tall lantern]

implying limestone has feelings

[mortal ginkgo]

Did you know that if you drop a concrete from impure limestone node on a river, you would get another one after you reload the save?

MAKES ONE CURIOUS

[rough shore]

that method could probably make more concrete than an impure limestone node

[mortal ginkgo]

but only works with impure limestone node

[rough shore]

trash method

[glacial totem]

Q. When you're at early/mid game, do you build a factory for each part eg. smart plating, modular frames etc or just alter the one factory to produce the different parts as needed?

[rigid wedge]

i just batch craft the space elevator parts

[dense violet]

do whatever is most convenient. The milestones are basically a tutorial

[rigid wedge]

unless i need them for something else too

[dapper cave]

I dont need the pipeline pumps for water if im not sending the water upward right?

[glacial totem]

Yeah there's plenty of iron nodes which makes me think I need as many independent factories

[glacial totem]

nope

[normal orbit]

Maybe

[vernal vortex]

How much iron per min do i need for 5 heavy modular frames per Minute?(base recipe)

[oblique aspen]

with all base recipes, about 1200

[vernal vortex]

Thats honestly better than i thought

[oblique aspen]

plus coal and limestone

[lilac pollen]

Alr quick question if I may: does fluid flowrate gradually decline over long distances even when completely horizontal?

[fluid sapphire]

nope

[echo thistle]

somoene is french and have disponibilities to play with me chill for starting the game

[normal orbit]

no, but the longer the distance the more opportunity it can slosh

[fluid sapphire]

#1201555265942724758

[echo thistle]

yep my bad i do this

but i have a question

where i can find french people ?

[fluid sapphire]

in that channel maybe?

[echo thistle]

yes ok we dont have french channel that's right ?

[normal orbit]

typically in france :p

[fluid sapphire]

no, this is an english only server, but i imagine some people in there are french

[echo thistle]

lol

[timid rune]

note to self: next time don't manifold a 67.5/min HMF factory

takes forever to get up to speed lol

[fluid sapphire]

surely you have stuff to keep you busy while you wait :p

[timid rune]

modular frame can take a while to bring up yeah

[hard ivy]

still faster than building perfect splitters for everything

[reef basin]

good thing is that you can just do something else in meantime

so it doesn't really matter

[vernal vortex]

How much iron per min do you even need for that

[reef basin]

depends on recipe choices

[wintry rune]

im new here what do i do 🙁

[tall lantern]

build factory

[wintry rune]

yh but howwwww

[tall lantern]

then build another

[reef basin]

lowest I could get it to is 379.688

[reef basin]

place machines

follow the ingame tutorial

[tall lantern]

the game has an onboarding tutorial, follow that

[wintry rune]

ima self implode

[wintry rune]

yippee

[vernal vortex]

Right, also how many HMF do you think id roughly need? I was thinking of like ~10 per min

[reef basin]

that also depends on playstyle and player preference

[uneven path]

What Greeny said. But fwiw I found 20/min hmf to be plenty

[fluid sapphire]

just play something else

[uneven path]

Play other games for a bit yeah

[young hound]

or js go around shooting some faunas

[fluid sapphire]

i sometimes dont play sf for months

[quartz salmon]

What’s the best area of the map for a computer factory?

[fluid sapphire]

there isnt one

[quartz salmon]

Yikes

[wraith depot]

You need a lot of alternative recipes to find a good spot anywhere

[uneven path]

Logistics are key

[reef basin]

play something else

[reef basin]

near resources it needs

[quartz salmon]

I was thinking about using trains to move stuff and building it on the western beaches

[uneven path]

Seems reasonable to me

[quartz salmon]

I’ve never used trains yet though

[wraith depot]

They are easy

[fluid sapphire]

#screenshots message

[quartz salmon]

I just got back into the game after stopped playing for like 5 years

[uneven path]

They can be super simple, so don't be intimidated

[wraith depot]

No environment clipping no fuel

[quartz salmon]

Ya I just built a 28k watt turbo fuel power plant over the last 2 days

With the purpose of powering trains

[uneven path]

Way overkill for powering trains but that power is still useful regardless!

[quartz salmon]

Well idk if it’s smart to have like a separate power grid for different things but I have everything on one

[normal orbit]

28kw is a bit under the 100+mw you need for trains :p

[dapper cave]

Lets gooo. Set up two coal power gens and now power my entire base with it across the map with a power grid. Biomass Be-gone. Good riddance

[quartz salmon]

I think I typed it wrong

[wraith depot]

That's what I do easy to keep an eye on every thing

[quartz salmon]

I have 87 100% efficiency turbo fuel power generators

[wraith depot]

Best feeling ever

[quartz salmon]

Or maybe it’s 86

[wraith depot]

Wait till you unlock rocket fuel

[dapper cave]

Seeing all the lights flip on across the base with no fuse breaks was so satisfying lol

[wraith depot]

For the same crude oil output you can run like 8 times more

[quartz salmon]

I’ve never gotten to aluminum before

[wraith depot]

It's not that bad, it's fairly simple tbh if know how the priority junction works

[fluid sapphire]

ah, yes, the priority junction that even its original creator thinks is black magic voodoo

[tall lantern]

much easier to just not combine the fresh and byproduct water at all

[wraith depot]

I mean it works for me, no yellow lights soo far

[fluid sapphire]

consider yourself lucky, those things are not reliable at all

[torpid dagger]

is the chainsaw broken on the experimental? like area and single modes dont do anything - have to cut things one by one just to clear an area

[wraith depot]

I mean you can always try to make the junction work, always better then making a line of packagers and transporting plastic

[cold berry]

It works for me as of last night.

(not dismissing you, just telling you it worked for me recently)

[fluid sapphire]

packaging water is the single worst way to handle it, those are not the only two solutions

[tepid spear]

I have a problem, I need for a build to split 22.5 in 20 and 2.5 is this possible?

[torpid dagger]

huh yeah i thought it worked for me yesterday but it was weird, when i was on single mode it would do an area clear. Now the area is the same no matter how to which one i am changing

[normal orbit]

you can use the wate water into other machines down the line, or you can feed the waste water back to the input.

[wraith depot]

With a few dozen splitters,mergers and a lot of maths every thing is possible

[timid rune]

2068 iron /min + 2540 coal/min + 2430 limestone/min

[young hound]

i personally used coal generators to get rid of water byproducts which is funny

[cold berry]

Whenever I have a weird glitch that someone else didn't get, I verify catch. Especially during betas I've found

[fluid sapphire]

are you sure you really need to do that

[tepid spear]

yeah i guess

[cold berry]

Sorry I can't be more help lol but that fixes it like 70% of the time lol

[tall lantern]

manifold it. or you can perfectly split that as it's 8/9 and 1/9 of the input, but eh

[torpid dagger]

cache you mean?

[cold berry]

Yeah, auto typed that

[tepid spear]

but I can use Mods too

[fluid sapphire]

whats the situation? why do you think you need to do this

[tall lantern]

mods are boring

[torpid dagger]

infinite zoop and infinite spline mods are cool

[tepid spear]

wait I send a pic

[cold berry]

I use balance loaders for some stuff and manifolds for others. I like thinking about which one works better for each thing. For simple, single-node-fed machines, balancers are cool. For large scale assembly, manifold.

[wraith depot]

Just feed the 20 requirement with the smart splitter and feed the overflow for the 2.5 it will eventually balance

[tepid spear]

I post the pic in math and meta

[cold berry]

Also for truck/train route stuff that isn't going 24/7, load balance helps to keep the lines consistent.

[reef basin]

you can never merge, then you don't need to split

[tepid spear]

sended

[cold berry]

I find some mods boring because the limitations are the point in this game a lot of the time. It's a logistics game on top of an automation game, so there's going to be logistics problems, and I feel a lot of mods try to mod the game out. But vanilla+ mods like cartograph and infinite zoop are amazing, and time savers like "highlight nodes when you find them".

[torpid dagger]

yeah i mostly just use the inifinite zoop plus the belts, especially when you need to run long belts or pipes its a pain in the ass out of distance like common.

[wraith depot]

The only mod I use is for the alt recipes, I ain't spending hours scanning harddrives for one recipe which I will eventually get

[young hound]

i hate that i cant get rid of power shards

[cold berry]

||and a couple mods that make finding shit with the scanner easier because I just personally don't want an intense scavenger hunt when I wanna make shit lol but I do like the exploring a little||

[torpid dagger]

just upload on satis calculator can get the HDD unlocked there

[reef basin]

get all, easy

[uneven path]

Why do you want to?

[torpid dagger]

though to be fair we just go hunting for hard drives makes the game more challenging doing it the hardway till we get the recipes we want in the end

[wraith depot]

The mod I use make the alt recipes achievable in the mam like the research tree, it needs hard drive and the the items needed to unlock it, so it doesn't feel like cheating

[young hound]

like when i get excess after constructing/deconstructing factories

[uneven path]

You'll want them later, hold on to them

[young hound]

also just realized i can turn them into power matrixes or ionized fuel to get rid of them

[young hound]

like i got syntetic already and i have infinite of them

[uneven path]

Ah, I didn't want to assume

[cold berry]

The only thing I wish this game had genuinely was a more compact shredder/sink (maybe the trade off is you can't get the tickets from it's UI, idk, sink is just huge) and indoor vehicles that run off a battery dock (like a forklift) that can turn 180° without having to have a curved road so that I can have interior logistics easier.

[wraith depot]

Just calculate everything thing before you build, like how many smelter will feed how many construction etc

[cold berry]

The second one is just because it'd look cool tho

[uneven path]

Yeah I do think the size of the sink is kind of silly. It's not really adding any challenge, it's just annoying

[normal orbit]

kinda can, make ionized fuel :)

[young hound]

im an empty brained creature

[wraith depot]

I think its for encouraging recycling and shii..

[torpid dagger]

To be fair ive always wanted them to add forklifts in the game, gets the player to manually do things instead of everything being automated.. I know its manual at the begininng but would be cool if you had to move things with a forklift or those hanging cranes in mills to warehouses that you can control

[wraith depot]

Them tie you shoes and go get them slugs and remember to multiple them with sloops

[uneven path]

Not sure how the sink being huge encourages recycling stuff?

[young hound]

remember guys ficsit does not waste

[wraith depot]

The design so ugly and huge, atleast I don't wanna slap that around my world

[torpid dagger]

build a building around it or keep it under where all your network of pipes to belts are or do you have them spaghetti everywhere?

[uneven path]

By the end of my first playthrough I had sinks on the end of basically every production line 🤣

[wraith depot]

That's what I mean it's efficient that way but it ruins the symmetry

[wraith depot]

I only know straight belt mode

[sudden tide]

i swear on god, they should change stingers into anything but this, like wolves or anything.. having seizures when hit from back by a big ass stinger aint no fun 😭

[wraith depot]

I believe they have some mode in setting for that ,that turns the singers into cats

[sudden tide]

whose idea it was to put stingers in first place

[rough shore]

not mine

[sudden tide]

worst feature of the game i swear

[dapper cave]

So I set up 3 coal gens to distribute the power evenly throughout the whole base. Works fine but one of em occasionally breaks down, gotta reset the fuse. Im presuming its being overloaded somehow but the others arent and have roughly the same load so im not sure what to do there

[rough shore]

just connect them all up?

[sudden tide]

if u have already unlocked coal gens, build more than 3

[south sinew]

normally you would connect everything yep

[wraith depot]

3 gens ain't gonna cut it you should expand, check the max consumption stat and build accordingly

[sudden tide]

and yeah everything should be interconnected

[dapper cave]

So i thought i had everything interconnected but I missed some. Fixed that when I went back over so thats done

[fluid sapphire]

build in blocks of 3:8 (water extractor to generator ratio)

[wraith depot]

Yes just connect every pole

Your bio burners will take the load if they power consumption increases

[dapper cave]

Ive logged off for now but ill adjust it when i get back. It should be an easy fix

should lol

[cold berry]

Oh there's one more thing I want in this game actually? I want the sink's points per minute counter fixed, because I could see that being a really cool metric to compare. We'd have more pissing contests over how big the number is, which would be very fun IMO

I had a couple more but the game added them last time (3-way pipes and Daisy chaining) so

They pretty much got me lol. And I used to think the building was bad, but I was just bad

And cocky because of other building games so I thought the product was flawed.

[fluid sapphire]

when i started out i thought the building was crazy good compared to all the other games i had played

most other games are pretty dry for features

[cold berry]

My mistake was not looking at other people's shit, and not trying out the building blocks the awesome shop gave me. ||I still argue that a lot of stuff in the awesome shop should just be available but whatever||

||that's a really tiny gripe with one of my favorite games ever||

[fluid sapphire]

i think its fine as is

unlocking stuff feels great for the player

most of it is also really cheap

[young hound]

if i tame a lizard doggo and it dies, can it respawn?

[cold berry]

It's fine as is. It definitely is. I like the unlocks in this game overall and don't think they could do much better honestly lol

[supple canopy]

that the mandatory dopamine dose

[wraith depot]

🥹

[quartz salmon]

All my storage systems overflow goes into a sink so when I leave my game open after a while I just end up with a ton of tickets

[cold berry]

Also side note the signs should just have a light-version at this point. But I'm glad they made them zoopable

[cold berry]

That's the system I am trying to set up. Central storage around the space elevator, with excess for both elevator assembly and storage overflow going to 4 sinks nested under the base of it. I have an idea where to put it; in the Crater in the grassy plains. The space elevator will be flush with the top of the Crater, and the sink's will be under it in THE BASEMENT

And my parts better behave, or they go to THE BASEMENT

[fluid sapphire]

fr, its gonna make my life 100x easier

#screenshots message

[quartz salmon]

See I wish I could build factories like that, my logistics and math sense are in the most humble way possible amazing and I can design some complex shit to 100% efficiency first try, but I’m a horrible architect lol

I can never make my builds look good the way I want too

[fluid sapphire]

my method is pretty.... methodical. if rail is involved, start planning from rail.

build floor space for the first floor, decide placement of corners

then figure out what fits on the first floor nicely, when no more room build another floor on top,

leave lots of space between blocks of machines,

wire shit up, make sure it works, then add some detail

#screenshots message

works every time

kinda samey results, but it keeps stuff moving

[quartz salmon]

I’m about to move all my stuff to a central storage facility and so ima be building trains for the first time but after that when I make my computer factory ima try that method

I think I just lack a natural creative detail sense tbh

[fluid sapphire]

do you have blueprints for machines?

[quartz salmon]

I have some but I need to build more

[fluid sapphire]

i couldnt do a lot without those, you gotta stay open to experimenting with layouts

eventually you just find something that works

[quartz salmon]

But I’ve never gotten to the second cube frame thing whatever it’s called so I only had the mk1 blueprint rn

[fluid sapphire]

its a start

[quartz salmon]

I mean I have like 200 tickets I could buy some of them until I make that factory

But when I used to play the game I made the mistake of just buying so many resources and just not learning

That was a long time ago tho

[fluid sapphire]

i am not the most architecturally minded builder here, what i do is pretty basic compared to all the crazies

my designs are just boxes with some edge detailing and roofing

[quartz salmon]

Better than what I’ve got lol

I end up with a box with no detailing

[fluid sapphire]

it took me a long time to settle into this

hundreds of hours of building

[quartz salmon]

Ya I need to just kinda force myself to get that creative brain

[fluid sapphire]

i was so unsatisfied with how i was building like 400 hours in i decided to nuke everything and start over

[quartz salmon]

The photo I just send in screenshots is my turbo fuel power plant

It wasn’t done when I took that so it wasn’t 100% efficiency yet

But now it is

Idk how to do the link thing you do

[fiery pewter]

Copy message link

Then paste in new message

[quartz salmon]

Oh okay

[quartz salmon]

#screenshots message

[fluid sapphire]

it looks well organized, thats a good start

[quartz salmon]

The floating factory above it is concrete i deleted after I was done

I got pissed off going back and forth cause I kept running out

Cause I live like 100 miles away from that location lmao

[sturdy mural]

get a ||DD|| soon, brother

[quartz salmon]

Ya I also repaint all my pipes to match the liquid in them I just hadn’t done it yet

[fluid sapphire]

i see power towers going in the direction of grass fields

[quartz salmon]

What’s that

[fluid sapphire]

dimensional depot

[quartz salmon]

They go all the way to rocky desert

[sturdy mural]

you know Minecraft?

Applied Energistics 2?

[quartz salmon]

Oh ender chest

[sturdy mural]

oor yeah ender chest is more like it

[fluid sapphire]

cloud storage for building materials, takes care of 95% of inventory management

[sturdy mural]

if only there was an AutoUpload option 💔

[quartz salmon]

Ya idk why I haven’t done that yet, I was commuting back and forth to rocky desert

[sturdy mural]

you kill a critter outside of factory, pick up the remains and they get auto clouded

[fluid sapphire]

oh, lol i mean

[sturdy mural]

and then in base you can drop off the remains after disabling autoupload

[fluid sapphire]

you dont need to constantly manage your inventory, its already pretty convenient

[quartz salmon]

Another issue I have it starting 17 projects at once lmao the tism is my downfall

I have probably a hundred flat foundations laid out rn that are sitting empty cause I started building them and then got distracted and started a new one

[sturdy mural]

real

except i can't start instead

[quartz salmon]

I wish I had more time to play, I’m military so I only have like 4 hours a day

@fluid sapphire do you eventually replace all early game tractors with trains/trucks? or is it like a if it ain’t broke sorta thing

Alternatively is there any reason to keep complex road systems and trucks once you have trains?

[fluid sapphire]

i dont use tractors at all, and i only recently started using trucks, most of my vehicles are either trains or drones, but yeah - generally speaking, if it aint broke

[quartz salmon]

A lot of my early game management was trucks

I don’t really like long conveyor belt highways

[fluid sapphire]

i also dont use trucks such that they would need roads built for them, either have them drive on terrain or not at all, making roads is too much effort

at that point might as well use trains

[quartz salmon]

Ya I stole the road idea from an imkibitz video

[fluid sapphire]

i tried making roads at one point but it was such a royal pain in the ass i couldnt be bothered

this was also before we had vertical nudge

[quartz salmon]

Oh dang

[fluid sapphire]

mostly rail, but i have been adding more and more drones

#screenshots message

i find rail is also a lot nicer to my eyes for transferring power than having power towers everywhere

[young hound]

appearently my lizard doggos cant go above an specific height, is this supposed to happen?

[quartz salmon]

I kinda like my power towers I jump my Hypertubes around on them

[unkempt blade]

I'd love an actual road spline the way rails work. I mostly just do skyroads currently because it's easy to blueprint

[fluid sapphire]

yeah, if only we got spline roads

[quartz salmon]

I think it a common sentiment but I hate hypertubes on the ground it makes me mad lol

My brother builds them that way

[fluid sapphire]

i dont have hypertubes anywhere myself, past a certain point you kinda dont need them but i guess they can be nice to have

i was thinking about building somekind of rotatable cannon though to put on some roofs

[quartz salmon]

I like them for the ride just seeing everything

[fluid sapphire]

trains can do that too

[unkempt blade]

if he's just being lazy about it then HTs are one of those things that are a really good usecase for blueprinting if you have an idea of how you want them to look

[sturdy mural]

#screenshots message @boreal umbra not exactly the solution you're looking for probably, but you could just place a side doorway nudged by half a foundation to cover it
oor make a pillar of sorts with beams to cover it up?

[quartz salmon]

Me and him just both have the architectural skills of a dead hog

[versed bison]

i seem to cant progress

[fluid sapphire]

you must satisfy the space elevator

[versed bison]

i get overwhelmed by perfectionism and always going back to change previous factories and blueprints

[rough shore]

then dont 🤷‍♂️

[versed bison]

thanks ig

[fluid sapphire]

why are you doing that?

[quartz salmon]

Try adderall

Jk

[rough shore]

there are more nodes just create more factories instead of editing ones unless u somehow manage to run out of nodes

[versed bison]

idk i just keep tweaking blueprints instead of playing the game