satisfactory

[dusk mirage]

and don't think you need screws for anything but the awesome shop and some equipment?

[viral egret]

2 iron nodes 2 copper... should i go pure for them?

[feral vector]

that early on I just used whatever was close tbh, bunch of impure iron nodes worked fine for stuff

[viral egret]

iron nodes pure there's dozens in the desert but copper pretty much none...

[brittle dune]

Smart splitter into storage container into depot is 🔥

[feral vector]

idk a bout the desert I started in the green place

[viral egret]

idk when to stop tho 😭 i think i'll do one 120/min belt in input for each resource and that's it, pinky promise

[feral vector]

one machine worth of each thing you unlock

for screws and iron bars I had extra during production so I just send the overflow to storage

[viral egret]

one machine does nothing, like 30 per minute...

[wise junco]

any amount is a good amount!

[feral vector]

and how many minutes are you going to play for?

[brittle dune]

grass fields moment

[viral egret]

i need thousands tho...

[wise junco]

it all just depends how fast you need em

[viral egret]

let's say i idle 8 hours for sleep, that's... actually that's 14k... huh...

[feral vector]

maybe concrete, especially if you unlock the concrete only foundations from the awesome shop. the only other thing you need lots of is whatever your best conveyor belt needs

I was ok with 2 miners on impure limestone nodes for all of phase 2, then got more limestone when I needed mk4 belts

[brittle dune]

Yeah this game just becomes essentially planning to produce between 3 things
personal use, power, project assembly

[feral vector]

don't even gotta afk, one machine of each basically means you never run out of anything you use to make buildings, foundation and belts are the only things you make enough of to deplete your storage. have like 2 large containers full of belt materials and 3 of concrete if you wanna be safe

I have legit never run out of stuff like iron rods and I think I only have 10 / min going to storage?

[brittle dune]

If you're anything like me and spend a lot of time standing around doing nothing

[feral vector]

even if you're locked in, exploring and building long belts and train lines takes a while, same with setting up production chains

[viral egret]

oh and pipe material... so 3 copper nodes...

[dusk mirage]

I had a line producing insane ammounts of iron plates and I managed to run out, I needed 10k of them for Mk6 belts and the container I had the going into only held 4,8k

[feral vector]

I said earlier that you need to stockpile more of the stuff you use for foundations and belts so that makes sense. I've never even gotten to mk6 belts lol

[feral vector]

basically all of my copper stuff is off one normal node from the early game, split into wire, cable, sheets. other copper nodes I use when production chains need them

[dusk mirage]

That feels like bit of a slap in the face from the devs, everything else is high end stuff but then they ask for 10k of probably the first thing you automated in the entire game.

"Did you keep upgrading your storages?"

[viral egret]

and that's enough?

[feral vector]

I looked on the wiki and they use crazy stuff I've never even seen before though?

[feral vector]

yep, never ran out through the end of phase 3. one machine of everything except belt materials and concrete has been perfect, always lots of extra going to storage

[dusk mirage]

Look up what you need to unlock them

[ornate saffron]

Phase one two and three you need a little of everything for personal use other then phase parts stator and screws

[feral vector]

ahh I gotcha

[worn oar]

#screenshots message Loot from exploring enough to finish the somersloop and mercer sphere achievements

[winged root]

MAM research being 10 min is interesting especially because if you build a factory and get a better recipe you gotta break it down and build a new one (now it’s not bad after all it’s a factory builder but still a tad annoying)

[viral egret]

that's a bit yeah

[ornate saffron]

For harddrives. All other mam research is 10seconds

[winged root]

Yup

[dusk mirage]

That's just to condition you into the fact that everything is just tearing everything down and rebuilding.

Also, blueprints are your friend

[ornate saffron]

I get the impression that ada wants other data from the harddrives. Us getting a recipe is a bonus

[winged root]

Yeah, it’s in the nature of the game. Although personally I view it as quite annoying but maybe it will grow on me…..I have 80 more to open

Digital kinder eggs

[viral egret]

#screenshots message
wait poggers that's super good tho no?

[winged root]

Mhm a very good recipie

[viral egret]

hell yeah lessgo

[dusk mirage]

Yup, 8/10 recipe, would use.

[winged root]

There are multiple excel spreadsheets of recipies and ratings based on efficiency (I greatly admire the dedication people have to their craft)

[viral egret]

#screenshots message
i'm afraid to ask but, how long is this gonna last me?

223MW aint too bad... i think...

[deft sluice]

that's really nothing

[viral egret]

well, i'm phase 2...

[dusk mirage]

I'm more afraid to ask what lead to that horrid clock setting on it?

[deft sluice]

you should look up the optimal coal generator setup

[viral egret]

how much should i aim for before stopping?

[deft sluice]

ummm

i would say probably 1600MW

[viral egret]

60m3/min each, one pump is 120, 2 generators... so....

[deft sluice]

which is 2 sets of 8 gens

erm, 1200MW sorry

[deft sluice]

you want to set-up 8 generators with 3 water gens, takes 120 coal/min

[valid glacier]

you could do 8 coal gens with 3 water extractors powering them all with 120 coal/min

[ornate saffron]

Youll be onto fuel generators soon. They provide 250mw each

[dusk mirage]

oh, you want 133,3333% for 60 cubic meters of water usage?

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[viral egret]

okay i guess that's the strat then lmao

[tranquil bolt]

Does anyone have a write up for a large nuclear power grid?

[viral egret]

yeah my water is super far so more than one pipe is expensive...

[deft sluice]

move coal to water, don't move water unless you absolutely have to

[tranquil bolt]

Water is a pain but building water towers helps

[viral egret]

yeah i uhh... i already built a pipe that goes through the whole desert for the 2 pure coals up north... my bad...

[winged root]

Can’t wait to start learning nuclear haha

[dusk mirage]

Have you read up on the wonderful thing known as "headlift"?

[deft sluice]

there's a perfect location for a coal powerplant on the east coast near the desert biome

and you can use the outer ocean for water

[viral egret]

#screenshots message
this is what i did so far...

[dusk mirage]

That might work if you just let the pipes full up completely with water, that way the fluid dynamics won't mess it up and leave your generators without any water

But 100% better spot would be the one sector pointed out

[ornate saffron]

I know @ember escarp did some extensive nuclear work for public use

[rapid bear]

i need my factory to grow but my friend is hogging it on the steam family 💔

[wanton sage]

Hi, I'm new here, I've already put... Checks notes 70+ Hours? Into the game.
I'm just here to ask for a nice simple explanation on how I start automating trains.
Because I've got the trains, I can drive the trains, how do I set them to haul cargo on their own?

[deft sluice]

Go to the trainsettings and set the stations you want it to transit

[plucky adder]

anyone up for some satisfactory no one is commenting in the looking

[rapid bear]

its really confsuing and werid but to haul cargo you use the vargo station thing which you attach to the train station also trains have to go in full circle

[plucky adder]

18+

[dusk mirage]

I'm not even trying to help you, godspeed. looks like everyone elses got this.

[rapid bear]

also you need to attach frigeht container trains to the train itself

[wanton sage]

Can they not go back and forth in a straight line? They have to make a full circuit? That complicates things...

[deft sluice]

They can

[rapid bear]

yes sadly

wait what.

[deft sluice]

just put a train on both sides

[viral egret]

70 hours and you got trains??? damn...

[deft sluice]

it'll move back and forth without having to loop

[dusk mirage]

You can put a locomotive on both ends to make it bi-directional

[viral egret]

i'm 120 hours in and i unlocked trucks a few days ago...

[rapid bear]

ARE YOU FR RN

[leaden turret]

ensuring to face them the correct way or they won't autopilot

[dusk mirage]

Yeah, if they face the same way then the other one will just help on the pushing

[deft sluice]

Just keep in mind the position of the freighter stations on both ends are going to be mirrored

[viral egret]

man discovers fire

[rapid bear]

That is how I feel

your telling me that i could have been saving resources this whole time.

[wanton sage]

I'm glad my intuition already pointed me to do that from my limited knowledge of real life trains.
Also, hard to move cargo without a space to put the dang cargo.

[deft sluice]

Yep, important to note is the positioning of the freight station is where that cargo will load/unload to

[wanton sage]

Overall, I'm trying to make it go between three seperate stops along one track.

[next ivy]

real life trains also have only 1 direction they are allowed to go in ?

[dusk mirage]

just add the cargo locomotives to it?

And some cargo loaders on the stations

and set one of them to unload instead of load and you're just about done?

[dusk mirage]

I was under the impression that in most places the conductor had to have a clear sight of whats ahead of the train, so yeah; unless you have a controll cabin in the back, it ain't going backwards.

[next ivy]

doesnt make sense

[wanton sage]

I'm glad that from what I'm hearing so far, I'm mostly on the right track to getting this automated already.

[dusk mirage]

Would you reverse a train that's so long that you can't see whats behind it knowing full well that if you hit something or someone your arse is getting charged and/or sued?

[dusk turtle]

Hey guys, so I just completed my mam research tree and the achievement hasnt come yet, does anyone know why?

[dusk mirage]

Where I live even the trams have a tiny controll box at the end for that reason if they need to back up.

And they're no longer than an accordion bus most of the time.

[valid glacier]

What does pulse nobelisk do?

[dusk mirage]

it yeets

[next ivy]

knockback

[wanton sage]

Low damage, lots of knockback

[valid glacier]

oh ok

[dusk mirage]

drop 5 of them at your feet and fire an explosive rebar at it, you get to see the whole map.

And with a parachute you might even live to tell the tale.

[storm zephyr]

should i go mercer sphere hunting until i can max out my depot?

i dont really know what else to do at this point ive been fucking around

[next ivy]

have you finished the elevator ?

[dusk mirage]

that sounds like a productive way to spend some time block boy.

[ornate saffron]

mercer spher ehunting, hard drive and slugs too

[restive sandal]

Question, does multiple Dimensional Depot Uploaders increase total storage?

[dusk mirage]

No

[restive sandal]

Aw

[dusk mirage]

But the upload speed does increase

[wanton sage]

Does give you more places to upload stuff at once though.
I don't like the box, it scares me.

[clever pier]

weird I can access the steam store but can't download updates

says content servers unrecachable

anyone else see this?

[worn oar]

Maybe filling 1265 inventory slots was a mistake

[magic void]

Anyone else having major performance issues with 1.2 experimental?

[leaden turret]

<@&387163995947270144> bot / discord settings not removing discord invite spam

[next ivy]

<@&387163995947270144> there are juicy girls here that want to talk to you

[north cloud]

Thx

I’m married tho

[next ivy]

damn

[visual widget]

hey guys, whats up

I just got here

you know where you can ask questions or is fine to ask it here?

[next ivy]

if its a longer question then #1038092680493801533
otherwise here is probably fine

[leaden turret]

you just asked your question, now is doomed to get other question not answered

[visual widget]

is just a chorter one, I just explored the map for a while and I wanted to use power shards for something like the coal power plant, but its pretty difficult to get the ratio with a 200% coal plant

just that

[ember escarp]

Did some one ping me?

[leaden turret]

no, but I'm now going to give you the mental image of pingu doing a lynard skynyrd cover

[next ivy]

kinda not answering the question but:
i would recommend putting shards into the coal miners
and just building more default coal generators

[leaden turret]

purpose of overclocking producers is to build less

purpose of overclocking extractors is to get more

[ember escarp]

My write up is in progress, but I can discuss in a live stream, or show you my videos on Youtube. I have published for the community free nuclear power plant mark 2 blueprints that build an entire stack. I can ping you in design and architecture to show you some images or provide you the google drive folder of the blueprints and save files. They produce 90,000MW of power per 300 uranium node.

[visual widget]

thanks for the tip, and... yeah I did also that too, I had like 40 shards and upgraded all miners that I had available, the coal generators just got double its needs and i tried to do the tipically 360 of water and later found out that the method didnt work, maybe theres no better way than underclocking a 2nd machine or so, I dont have the generators right in the water because Im experimenting a bit

[keen sapphire]

you can get the woter level right with a small amount of water I'm building a damn over a waterfall to the west of my spawn area

[storm zephyr]

is reanimated sam good to sink

[normal vale]

yeah

[visual widget]

hey im back, I just had a realization, by any chance you can connect all the pumps to multiple outputs far away from them?

[next ivy]

you can merge multiple pumps into 1 pipe
and later split that pipe again if thats what you mean

just watch out for max throughput of each pipe tier

[visual widget]

thank you, ill give that a check

[storm zephyr]

dimensional depot downloader when

[dusk mirage]

never

[deft sluice]

downloader?

you can already take things out of cloud storage

[next ivy]

not automatically

[deft sluice]

or you mean you want to use it to transfer resources across distances

ah yeah that's never happening

[next ivy]

illogically

[deft sluice]

that breaks the game completely

it would seriously trivialize the game, i wouldn't want them to do that

[dusk mirage]

Think you can add those with mods, but yeah. Kinda removes the logistics aspect from a game about logistics and automation

[next ivy]

lets hope they allow automatic restocking at some point at least

so you dont run out of items like ammo or nobelisks constantly

[deft sluice]

I could see that happening, though i'd still say it's unlikely

[dusk mirage]

Just pull some more from the inventory, if you need more than stack of nobelisks or ammo for a fight that sounds like an aim issue.

[next ivy]

it would just be nice QoL

[winged root]

If you automate it and just take it from the cloud when you run low isn’t that comparable?

[dusk mirage]

At that point you might as well reload from the storage

[next ivy]

i was suggesting either the automation of that taking items out of cloud process
or
that weapons and jetpack can use items straight from the cloud

maybe locking it behind an upgrade

[winged root]

As long as each auto take out comes with a 1% chance of exploding I’m all for it

[deft sluice]

just anoher 2 and a half hrs of afking to finish my versatile frameworks, zzzzzz

[dusk mirage]

something like the dropping of the rebar gun when reloading it?

[honest summit]

is there a modded chat or something? just wondering if someone has a modpack or something already premade?

[raven axle]

Official Modding Discord

Learn all about modding and join the community here!
<3 @ornate saffron

[ornate saffron]

the modding discord is your best bet^_^

[worn oar]

I'm trying to learn trains, why does it say station unreachable when I try to create a simple loop between one station and the other? After doing the loop, there is a straight line leading back to the first station. That's where the train is stuck. I can't manually drive it either

[next ivy]

manual driving should be locked if auto mode is on

[worn oar]

Next stop is unreachable

[deft sluice]

you probably have one of the stations set backwards

Put the rounded part of the roof to the outside of the track

so the train should dock facing the flat side

[worn oar]

Thanks, fixed!

[deft sluice]

(i might have this backwards)

[next ivy]

there is also a handy arrow that shows you the direction the train should arrive in

[worn oar]

No you're correct

[clever pier]

you can also have a single train go back and forth on one line if you put an engine on both ends

in which case the stations have to face in two different directions

sometimes I just cheap out and do that if its taking a single resource to where its needed for processing

like nitrogen to a fused frame factory

[ornate saffron]

naw, you are using the tools you have effectively and with a puirpose in mind.

this is the way

[winged root]

Welp time to plan out 6 modular factories and their associated transport network

[ornate saffron]

Im working on Nuclear..... from memory.

[cold berry]

Is "random nodes, basic nodes bias" similar in balancing to vanilla?

I'm looking into it

[ornate saffron]

I remember needing Silica and Alum so i build a alum factory in the swamp lol

i just used all of it

Ill math out the real stuff tomorrow again

sooon

[deft sluice]

i'm not sure what basic nodes bias is, is that an option?

[wise junco]

time to flip a coin... automate turbomotors or supercomputers next

[ornate saffron]

super computers

[wise junco]

it's probably the quicker ofthe two tbbh

[ornate saffron]

when you do turbo remember youll need radio control units for personal use and turbo motors

and super computers lol

[wise junco]

i factored that into the plan for the RCUs 8-)

[ornate saffron]

New or old or comic

i do

#screenshots message

[cold berry]

"basic resource rich"

In game modes

[floral sparrow]

I've explored a decent bit now but don't believe I've found any bauxite nodes. Is it especially hidden?

[deft sluice]

it's in the red forest in the center of the map

[floral sparrow]

All of it?

[ornate saffron]

its along the midline of the map. there is a limited anmount. Highest concentration is in the bamboo forest in the middle

there is two node near the wst coast oil field as well

[floral sparrow]

Ah, I've mostly explored the outskirts and east side

[ornate saffron]

two nodes in the swamp

[deft sluice]

Not all of it, but it's all along the central line yes

[floral sparrow]

I went to the bamboo forest once but I have arachnophobia so uh, haven't returned just yet

[wise junco]

gotta make me some borxite to make some alerminuerm

[deft sluice]

there's 2 pure bauxite nodes on the far west of the center line, near the oil beaches

other then that yeah, it's the red forest or the swamp

[ornate saffron]

turnn on aracniphobia mode to get cats instead

[worn oar]

So slooping biofuel is absolutely insane. I created an array of liquid biofuel burners as a 7.5 GW backup power source in case I didn't scale up power in time. It filled all the way up since it wasn't being used.

That's a whopping 16250 packaged liquid biofuel. The total cost? Just over 10,000 leaves and 1000 wood, plus some surplus plastic I wasn't already using.

Tell me again why people don't use liquid biofuel?

[floral sparrow]

I would rather shit myself swatting at skittering little spiders than hurt a png of a cat

[ornate saffron]

I really cant blame you.

[deft sluice]

you get like no lift from it

[ornate saffron]

you can burn it at the same rate as normal fuel in generators

[deft sluice]

oh you mean as a energy source

[ornate saffron]

biofuel does give ytou the highest verticle range without feathering

[worn oar]

Yeah, I mean I also have some in my DD for me. But as a power source.

[topaz shale]

I really like using packaged biofuel as jetpack fuel. Since It is so easy to make.

[ornate saffron]

becuase it needs manual input. so ppl prefer the sources that are infinite without player input

I use Wood and fuana remains to make munitions though

[deft sluice]

Liquid biofuel is goated up until you get turbofuel for the jetpacks, but it's not good for climbing, just hovering or horizontal movements

[worn oar]

Let me highlight the important part. 16250 packaged liquid biofuel cost just over 10000 leaves and 1000 wood. You'd get that just by exploring. It costs basically nothing to run a plant large enough to let you skip straight to turbofuel.

[ornate saffron]

I understand completely I did a bio and geo run only

[worn oar]

Charcoal also seems decent for steel production if your nearby coal is already taken up. Which means you could really make small steel plants anywhere they were demanded if you wanted. Iron is everywhere.

[topaz shale]

Oh for sure. It's really dang good until then.

[ornate saffron]

@unborn gyro what is the most power efficient way to make plutonium rods

[worn oar]

Feels like around the time you unlock liquid biofuel the zipline is also within reach which is the true go anywhere tool. One foundation and two power poles is freeeeeeeeeeedoooooommmm

[deft sluice]

could just use the many alt recipes to make steel that dont require coal though

[worn oar]

Wait there are coal-free steel recipes

o.O

[deft sluice]

Iron pipe makes steel pipes straight from iron

[worn oar]

Damn nice

[deft sluice]

it's very inefficient

but it spares having to find coal

[ornate saffron]

no, you can make iron pipes but you need some sort of coal for the rest. Pertrocoke is a way around it but thats making coal from oil

[deft sluice]

You could make beams from aluminum, why you'd do that is beyond me haha

[worn oar]

To be fair right now I have four full belts of aluminum and I'm only using like 500/minute

So I can see the point of that

[ornate saffron]

If you are not doing monster scale production aluminium is a nice thing to ship around and is easy to move large quanities of and its very dense and felxable. Alum rod to screws. Alun to steel and so on

[grim carbon]

is there a limit to the amount of items that can be put in the dimensional depot?

i didn't see anything on the wiki about that

[summer coral]

how much time is there usually between the experimental for an update releasing and the update releasing?

[dusk mirage]

I started to question if the bi-directional train were a real thing, so I had to test it.
They just look wrong to me. #screenshots message

[next ivy]

yes its limit is even ingame

[ornate saffron]

if you max out ythe research you can have 5 stacks of every item

[grim carbon]

that's all?

that being the case, i'll keep what i have in my inventory, which is quite extensive

[ornate saffron]

it varies, essentioally when its ready. 1.1 was 3 months in early acess. since this one is so much bigger i imagine it will be fall before it goes to main branch

[summer coral]

😭 really want to get into 1.2 but my save relies on mods

[ornate saffron]

you have 200 mercer sphers to use. so you can stack them for example concrete going into 7 depots. giving me a effective upload speed of 1800 a MINUTE

i have 4 depots of steel beams

[summer coral]

heres a question : WHY WOULD YOU NEED SO MUCH

[ornate saffron]

my train support pilar uses 285 per BP, sometimes i use it 15 times in quick succession.

[summer coral]

bring a few thousand with you then 😭

[ornate saffron]

naw thats to far. lol

[summer coral]

know what, itd be good for me to start a new save

[wise junco]

it's a trap

[summer coral]

what

[hard wolf]

note taking apps help so much 😩

[cursive crane]

dont forget about the in game notes

[hard wolf]

but the bullet points and folders xwx

[ornate saffron]

restarting does give you a clean slate but you have to staret from scratch. reedoing feels bad thats all. and can lead to burnout

[edgy coral]

Hey yall. i am trying to find someone who can help me with something . im having trouble with my train system and cant find whats wrong

[ornate saffron]

try #1038092680493801533

[wise junco]

dammit @ornate saffron , i couldnt type it fast enough

[ornate saffron]

ppl always lurking to help\

[ornate saffron]

noirmally id be one of those but im going to sleep real soon. my eyes hurt

[wise junco]

i'm just tryna plan some cooling systems

[summer coral]

ive got 3 saves with 200 hours each and 2 saves with 50 or less in the last 2 years, i think i can do it once more

[ornate saffron]

if you are on PC you could load up your save in SCIM and delet everything. spoo you dont loose your techg progress and start from scrathg

[edgy coral]

well if anyone has a sec to get in a call and let me steam my game lmk. Bc this shit is driving me crazy . And youtube vids aint helping

[summer coral]

thats not a bad idea

[hard wolf]

are you pressing e on the path/block signals to see what the error message is?

[ornate saffron]

make sure your spheres and sloops are on your person

[summer coral]

but at the same time i want to do all the milestones again with the conveyors and stuff already

[sage glen]

I started the game tdy but after reading this I think I gotta get ready to a rude awakening of head aches from this game.

[lament solstice]

Hey! Just started playing and getting addicted haha. But I could use some help.. I'm just on phase 2 for the lift.. Playing on ps5.. Any chance someone more experienced can hop on my world and see wtf my even doing haha

[hard wolf]

also signals at the stations have to be set up first so you don't get a "station cannot be in path" error

[wise junco]

this is a server of mostly introverts. i say this lovingly to everyone. you will probably be hard pressed to find someone willing to get on a call

[edgy coral]

lol

[hard wolf]

I wish this server had a vc bc body doubling

[wise junco]

we don't play Excel: The Game because we love people 🤣

[ornate saffron]

it can be a lot, but take your time and break each task into bit sized chunks.

Online calculators like https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/ can help too

[sage glen]

Should I make my server multiplayer or single player?

[ornate saffron]

i understand that, I mostly have something on my other screen. Currently im catching up on Doctor who

[hard wolf]

multiplayer if you plan on inviting people to it consistently. single player if you plan on playing solo most of the time

[edgy coral]

THESE FUCKING TRAINSSSS!!!

[sage glen]

Alr thx

[edgy coral]

just want a simple push pull system and it wont go back and forth and wonr load and fuck me

[ornate saffron]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 Take photos of the issue and a detailed discription

[hard wolf]

my train system was messed up last night and I couldn't figure it out but then my gf replaced one of the rails and it started working perfectly

[summer coral]

system just needed a womans touch lol

[clever pier]

put engine on both ends. make sure the train stations are facing the right way. if it says can't find route, flip that station 180. make sure station has power

[hard wolf]

then it takes two women to set up train infrastructure 😭

[lament solstice]

Trains.. I'm over here stuck trying to get more iron 😂😭

[summer coral]

obviously her touch is just more womanly

[edgy coral]

so should both stations be facing in or both the same way?

[dusk mirage]

no, opposite ways

[edgy coral]

so both facing out?

[dusk mirage]

yes

[edgy coral]

well shit

[hard wolf]

run them in parallel

[dusk mirage]

Parallel? Like this? #screenshots message

[hard wolf]

like this #screenshots message

@dusk mirage ^

[dusk mirage]

I was sure he wanted to make one with a train on both ends going back ond forth?

[edgy coral]

omg it works

thank you @dusk mirage

[hard wolf]

I misinterpreted the situation :/

[edgy coral]

shit was backwords

[sage glen]

So how do you beat the game? (Or can you not beat the game) Or do you just build forever?

[hard wolf]

by completing all of the phases

[dusk mirage]

save humanity

[hard wolf]

then you make a new save and make even cooler stuff with your accrued knowledge

[sage glen]

Ahhh

[hard wolf]

or get into mods

[sage glen]

Nah I’m on Xbox

[dusk mirage]

or multiplayer

[edgy coral]

this is my third time on phase 5 and everytime im like " im gonna restart and do this better" im beating this time 100%

[sage glen]

😭 never ending loop

[dusk mirage]

I have a save with over 6'000 hours on it and I didn't beat phase 5

[hard wolf]

@edgy coral if you're on pc and aren't opposed to light modding there are dismantle nobelisks

[sage glen]

I guess I’m on phase 0 then

Just finished the hub 😭😭😭

[hard wolf]

I'm building a factory to automate phase 3 and it's taking a while :c

[dusk mirage]

I got those hours by forgetting my server was on.

[edgy coral]

ive looked into mods a little. and yell i have got to phase 5 3 time not useing a single train. but that changes now

[lament solstice]

Anyone on playing on ps5, and can helptme sort out? I'm stuck in phase 2

[sage glen]

So is the goal of this game is just to automate everything and I saw something about sending stuff into space?

[dusk mirage]

Best mod I've found so far is the one that gives you some windex and cleans those windows so you can actually see trough them.

[hard wolf]

I could've used belts but I'm building a project assembly megafactory that looks like it's using thrusters to hover and want to reduce visual clutter under the structure

trains make the most sense

[sage glen]

Why use trains why not build everything close together or am I dumb

[dusk mirage]

The resource nodes are far apart

[sage glen]

Ahh shi forgot about that stuff

[hard wolf]

you could build belt lines to bring all of the nodes on the map to a single location, or you could cluster them up with trains and do a lot less work

[sage glen]

I’ve been putting my portable miner to overtime work

[wise junco]

oh yeah, when your train infrastructure is intact... life is so easy

[hard wolf]

what tier are you on?

[sage glen]

Idk I started tdy just made a forger I think it’s called

[hard wolf]

I'm kind of not building the rest of the factory structure out because I need that mk3 blueprinter and am trying to rush it

I'm being slowed down by not having a lot of experience building a factory this complicated, though doing this will help me work faster in the future. I'm still perplexed by the recycled plastic & rubber feedback loop, but I'm trying to break this down into manageable chunks, and I'll get there when I get there

I will overcome my math dyslexia >w<

[feral vector]

so is it a good idea to take the water byproduct from aluminum scrap and feed it into a refinery that's making alumina solution? I seem to have it balanced out but I only have one refinery for alumina solution at 50% and one for scrap at 25% to test if the loop works

[hard wolf]

yes, with a valve feeding in the remainder of the water at larger scale, or you could make and sink wet concrete if you have excess

[feral vector]

hmm that seems like a solid way to deal with the byproduct without having weird stuff happen

feel like it's prone to things going wrong if you got refineries feeding water into other refineries but so far it seems fine?

[wise junco]

the golden rule is to keep your waste water and fresh water to separate refineries. other than that you'll be good

[hard wolf]

if anything backs up you run the risk of the whole build shutting down

[feral vector]

so just basically don't screw up your math lol

[edgy coral]

thanks for the help yall . train system is running smooth

[wise junco]

mixing the waster and fresh together can be a risky move. it works, but the least little stutter in game logic and the thing can hydrolock

[cyan leaf]

For phase 2 going to phase 3 is diluted package fuel the one of the things to hunt for?

[feral vector]

hmm I'm feeding the waste water back into a refinery mixed with the fresh water

[wise junco]

DPF is a banging recipe

[cyan leaf]

I just couldn't remember if its just the package or normal version available at phase 2

[feral vector]

I feel like optimizing to use the water byproduct is kinda stupid cause water is an unlimited resource, better not to risk it?

[hard wolf]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=O5QA1JiI43sbf4IOt1cB

[wise junco]

the package version

[feral vector]

package unlocks first, tier 5

I think I have wet concrete sitting in my hard drive library, is there any other stuff I should try to use water byproduct for?

[wise junco]

it's just risky to mix the waste and fresh together, even with perfect math. if the system operates at less than 100% efficiency, even for a second, it'll lock up. better to have all your waste water power a second set of waste-water powered refineries

[cyan leaf]

What tier u up to?

[hard wolf]

I really like wet concrete. I wouldn't pass it up, and think you're better off collecting more drives

[wise junco]

wet concrete is a nice one

[feral vector]

uhh I think tier 7 is the first phase 4 one?

[cyan leaf]

Trying to remember what sulfuirc acid recipe needed

[hard wolf]

my whole phase 3 factory takes 90 limestone thanks to wet concrete xwx

[feral vector]

the one where you unlock aluminum stuff, I just did the first milestone and found bauxite

[hard wolf]

also, backups can be prevented via smart splitters feeding overflow into awesome sinks

[feral vector]

I figure the area with my coal gens is perfect for making a ton of aluminum stuff, it has the coal here, and bauxite is relatively close, and I already had a super long belt of quartz going nearby anyway

[wise junco]

i just wish you could SINK WATER

[feral vector]

gotta package the water though right

[wise junco]

correct

[feral vector]

yeah that sounds annoying lol gotta keep it stocked with containers then

[hard wolf]

awesome sink fluid input when? 😭

[feral vector]

I still haven't setup DPF

[hard wolf]

I wish there was a smart conjunction for fluids as well :/

[wise junco]

oh that would be lovely

[feral vector]

I'm at 7400MW production, 7850 if my biofuel kicks in, and 4825 max consumption

[wise junco]

oh.. youre gonna need so much power, so soon

[feral vector]

I'm sure phase 4 will make me go back and use DPF though lmao

I'm using the shitty standard fuel recipe

[ripe glen]

someone stream me the game and tell me if i should buy it

[feral vector]

welp at least I got aluminum to work first try

[feral vector]

do you like automation games?

my friend thinks this game sounds like work lol he would hate it

[wise junco]

@feral vector #screenshots message

I haven't even automated 3 of the 4 phase 4 parts yet

[ripe glen]

give some examplkes

[feral vector]

factorio, dyson sphere project

[ripe glen]

never played them

i like grind games

[feral vector]

probably watch a youtube review? it's a different kind of grind

[ripe glen]

alright

[hard wolf]

I need crash sites to spawn empty fluid tanks so I can get rocket fuel faster :/

[feral vector]

#screenshots message

this look interesting to you?

[wise junco]

i bought them off the awesome shop to get there sooner 👀

[ripe glen]

depends

[hard wolf]

do you like math? is your calculator underutilized? then satisfactory might be the game for you

[ripe glen]

i dont know what any of that means but

[wise junco]

...do you like math?

[ripe glen]

math?

[wise junco]

mathematics

[ripe glen]

is there a lot of math in this game?

[wise junco]

tons

[feral vector]

that's the layout of a factory to make the first complicated product. you gotta get smelters and foundries to make ingots, then feed the ingots to constructors, then feed the stuff from the constructors into assemblers, and so on. and figure out how to get coal, iron ore, and limestone to your factory using conveyor belts or trucks or something

[hard wolf]

that might be tier locked bc I can't find empty fluid tanks in my awesome shop

[wise junco]

nooooo really! what tier/phase are you on?

[hard wolf]

I'm building my phase 3 factory and have all of the tiers leading up to it unlocked

[wise junco]

do you have all the aluminum tiers unlocked?

for me it shows at the VERY bottom of the parts tab in the shop

[hard wolf]

no. I think that's in the next phase

[wise junco]

ah crap, that's probably why

[ripe glen]

oh ok

[willow pond]

does painting stuff in a blueprint carry over?

[ripe glen]

sounds pretty interesting to me

[wise junco]

yes

[hard wolf]

if you want aesthetic cohesion, modify your swatches in the customizer

[willow pond]

right, i just didn't know if doing any color changes directly on the parts in the blueprints would stick

[wise junco]

sure does

[cold berry]

What does a game consider a "basic resource" in "basic resource rich" mode? I can't find it anywhere

Has anyone played that and has a good idea of which ores it prefers? I'm checking the in-game setting to see if it says but I gotta boot up the game

[wise junco]

you might have greater luck in the experimental channel

[cold berry]

It's iron, coal, copper, caterium, limestone bias. I may go with that when I make my next world.

[cold berry]

I didn't know that was a thing and I feel silly lol

[wise junco]

no need to feel silly 🙂

[dense violet]

It’s like grade school maths and you can use planners that do the grudge work for you

[hard wolf]

I'm using satisfactory calculator and I'm still having to do a lot of math to work everything out

[feral vector]

shouldn't need too much math if you're using the calc? what are you mathing out?

I think the worst I had to do was figure out how to split belts to different groups of smelters/foundries

[hard wolf]

#satisfactory message

[feral vector]

this is madness lol just make 3 factories? and fuel stuff on a seperate planner too?

I got confused enough just doing the ACU or modular engine lol props if you build that

[hard wolf]

I've got all of the pure resource to refinery lines set up. I'm working on iron wire now xwx

[dense violet]

Just basic division
Avoid ‘realistic’ view on that one. So bad

[hard wolf]

where's the realistic view button on that? xwx for iron wire I decided to use 100 constructors at full output and set the extra 2 to 18.5% and that's the how I've set up most of the other stuff, if that makes sense

[feral vector]

I still don't understand why you'd bother mixing all the production lines like that seems so stressful lol

[bleak valley]

Oh Jesus

[hard wolf]

because that's what the factory calculator told me to do and I don't have a better option

[feral vector]

just run one calculation for each final product?

[hard wolf]

the recycled plastic + recycled rubber feedback loop is still messing me up xwx

[feral vector]

I wanna try those, only have one though

[hard wolf]

I tried reverse engineering this in satisfactory modeler and decided that I should try to adapt the calculator to satisfactory

[dusk mirage]

Am I too drunk or is this chart starting with turning 480 iron ore per minute into 420 irong ingots per minute? #screenshots message

[hard wolf]

I also have to adapt the calculator to satisfactory which is adding a lot of extra math

[feral vector]

hmm seems like it is lol

[feral vector]

I think I forgot to set the output to maximize, I manually set the input to 480 / min iron ?

nope lol didn't set the iron ore input to 480

[honest summit]

for like modular farms do you only import raw resources to a location and make it make a specific thing or whats like the method

[hard wolf]

I need an organization app for 2 people. any suggestions? xwx it has to be at least as featured as obsidian

[next ivy]

google sheets

[hard wolf]

something something odoo or something (please tell me if that's the best option)

[hard wolf]

I was thinking trello

[next ivy]

can you do ads somewhere else

[hard wolf]

ads?

[simple crane]

Are Smart Splitters bugged on Xbox right now? Can't get mine to work. Items will go through the center output but not the sides. I tried setting all 3 outputs manually like I saw in a reddit post suggestion but they still won't feed.

[dusk mirage]

what are the outputs set to?

[simple crane]

Left Side > Designated Item (ex. Iron Plates)
Center > Any
Right > None (Because it goes nowhere)

I tried manually resetting them all, I've deleted and replaced them, reconnected conveyors.

[dusk mirage]

Quite sure the center should be any undesignated if you don't want the iron plates going there as well

[simple crane]

I'll try that but the main problem is that nothing is coming out of the left side unless it's set to any.

[hard wolf]

okay but serously I need 2 people to have access to the same information in order to build https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=O5QA1JiI43sbf4IOt1cB and want to know how to do it properly xwx

[dusk mirage]

But you want the iron plates to go left, and everything else to go straight?

[dusk mirage]

With those settings it should split the designated item to both straight and left, if you set the center to 'any undefined' the designated item should go only to left.

[hard wolf]

so trello or notion?

[west jackal]

i think my nuclear factory might span the entire dune desert...

[hard wolf]

I could use Obsidian but that would require me reworking my homelab

[dusk mirage]

And the right and left might be mirrored if the splitter is on a conveyor lift.

[ivory matrix]

Wait

Is it possible to zoop for infinite plastic

[west jackal]

wdym zoop for infinite plastic

[ivory matrix]

nevermind

there's no fuel byproduct

[dusk mirage]

You can still pump oil for infinite plastic

[simple crane]

Yea, I tried setting it the Any (undefined) and still nothing comes out the left. I can get 1 single plate to come out the right side. I did it for testing but then it stops feeding. Nothing on left but everything will feed out the center.

[ivory matrix]

recycled plastic/rubber loop to turn loads of fuel and plastic or fuel and rubber into fuel and rubber or fuel and plastic, but lots of it.

[dusk mirage]

so turning plastic into rubber, and back to plastic. Just add some fuel.

[cold berry]

Ouroboros of fuel

[dusk mirage]

Yeah, that sounds like it's bugged.

[west jackal]

yes basically, you can infinite loop if you have enough fuel, although usually just 2 or 3 steps

[shell quarry]

Is a oil factory that made 5750mw good for phase 3

[west jackal]

not near enough

but its a great start 🙂

[shell quarry]

I posted it in ss I made it creative I can push more just trying to plan it out correctly

[dense violet]

just build and test things in the normal game, then when it's working, you have it in your game
you're going to burn the crap out double building everything

[shell quarry]

The blueprints work amazingly so it’s not so much double building it’s more so like 1.25 building😂😂

[dense violet]

still literally double building all the bps

[hushed sable]

Can we convert a 4 way pipe splitter to 3 way?

[shell quarry]

I think that’s coming in the next update

[hushed sable]

Oh

[next ivy]

and even then you might not be able to convert

[cold berry]

What I thought satisfactory was going in; "factory automation base building game"

What it really is; "Do-It-Yourself 3D first person OpenTTD where instead of connecting resource nodes on the map, you have to make both sides of the connections and then play OpenTTD"

[clever pier]

you don't have to use trains at all

in fact the world record speed four pioneer run they only use long conveyors , no vehicles.

[cold berry]

I didn't use trains in my first run. I like them tho. I'd prefer to use them over long conveyors, tho I see the appeal

[tame violet]

drones are the way to go

[dense violet]

if you don't use one of hte exits it becomes 3 way

[bleak mica]

Man I can't for the life of me figure out what to do

Like before oil everything is relatively close and not super interdependent

now I'm really struggling with how to split production logically

[dense violet]

make a plastic/rubber factory near oil - bring it to a place where you need it - what's the issue?

same as anything else

[bleak mica]

but ALL places need it

[dense violet]

trains belts trucks, all valid options

decide how much each place needs, send that much

[bleak mica]

Ugh idk

[dense violet]

make plans with make plans with this 🙂 find your numbers https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production

[bleak mica]

I feel my whole setup is too convooluted

[dense violet]

you're in the tutorial and constantly adding parts to a growing factory. That's how it goes.

accept some mess or spend a TON more time planning

[bleak mica]

yeah but it's not clear what to plan for

[dense violet]

look at the milestone, automate that part 🙂

after you're done with the tiers you can build your own projects

plan end factories that don't 'grow'

[bleak mica]

But how

[young sentinel]

why is it that i have a pure oil node, one shard in it, 8 refineries making fuel, but even with mk 2 pipes, the refineries are going empty?

[dense violet]

when you have everything unlocked, you can work to a final goal of your own
at that point you can make an overall plan and break it down into hubs that will work with each other

[dense violet]

make a post in #1038092680493801533 about it with overhead images

[austere wigeon]

Ngl I’m stuck on trying to find a Sam node so I’m stuck in early game bro 😭

[dense violet]

sam isn't critical to proceed

[bleak mica]

Idk how i'd live without dimensional depos tbh

[austere wigeon]

It’s not 💀

[dense violet]

you only need it in tier 9 to progress

[austere wigeon]

I’ve been focusing on finding it for the past like 2 hours

Hmmm still would be nice to have now tho since I’ll be there soon

[stone mason]

hello guys how do i get tag?

[bleak mica]

If it's ok here's the example that kinda overwhelms/occupies me as I've never played these types of games before:

• I wanna automate crystal oscillator
• i have quartz in 1 place, steel in another and cables in another.
• I set up quartz export but now I'm wondering if it's better to just bring everything to quartz since manufacturing requires the most of it

And that's with every new recipe

Like computers, do I just export boards to a place that has everything else or do I bring everything else to the plastic/board production

[dense violet]

generally move the fewest types of items unless the volumes really change things

[dense violet]

that's part of hte tutorial, you learn how you like to set things up.
me? I scout areas that has almost everything or everything I need in one spot

[shell quarry]

I’ve gotten the power plant up to 13000 mw before it starts to crash

[bleak mica]

so general rule is to export something that has the highest cost?

[dense violet]

export the things that are simplest to export usually least volume or least types

[oblique aspen]

if you need to transport something, transport as little and low volume as possible, avoid transporting liquids

[dense violet]

also play with recipes,
super computers that only need caterium and oil https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=F8hAdJahbCkU3L1G6ppe

[stuck canopy]

is there any point to power towers network if im building train network already?

[bleak mica]

does it include packaged liquids?

[dense violet]

if you want it to, generally it's simpler to use the liquids on locatino though

[bleak mica]

thanks for this link

[stuck canopy]

crude oil in islands? pretty much no other recources that crude there

planing to export everything along the coast into blue crater for a big ass factory

[bleak mica]

I found copper in the hills and had to make a giant-ass belt from there

relatively close to the oil production

does the game map differ between sessions or is it static btw?

[stuck canopy]

its the same

not procedurely generated unless changed with mods

[austere wigeon]

Is it bad that I found a Sam node from just blowing things up

[young sentinel]

many of my questions may be answered already. i was expecting this game to function like astroneer. i just started playing a week ago.

and i'm seeing that complicated fluid physics exist in this game

pipe physics

[dense violet]

Very basic ones
But you almost always need clear images of the lay out
Which was my suggestion

[young sentinel]

i'll read existing threads and maybe post a question later.
bedtime.
ty.

[vernal vortex]

How many megawatts should i aim for if i am trying to fully automate Phase 3?

Currently building with fuel powered generators

Alright thanks

[old grail]

where on map yall building malls (factories with basic item supply for constructing more stuff) ? bauxite and oil are pretty concerning for me, cant decide where to plop this

i dont want to use trains or trucks for this factory

[tender knoll]

Update: the problem was that like 5 machines ago the overflow of that byproduct of that machine wasnt sinked 🫩

[oblique aspen]

most parts you can just supply yourself with through the DD, only basic resources like steel and concrete the DD bandwidth often runs out for me, so i have some extra containers i can fill my inventory from. Other people use multiple DD uploaders to overcome that, but meh .. i like the immersion of a storage depot anyway 😛

[old grail]

yeah, finished 8 phase

[fallen orbit]

Can I check everything that is in 1.2 experimental somewhere?

[knotty bear]

Should foundations actually cause lag or is my pc trash

[meager jacinth]

do u guys use blueprints at all

[knotty bear]

I'm adding a ton of foundation and my game is choppy for a bit after I add it

[dense violet]

Probably the patch notes and channels up top that talk about things

[bleak mica]

i just discovered i can put splitters/mergers directly on top of lifts

[hearty solar]

It looks a little scuffed but it’s so cool and saves so much time

[bleak mica]

yeah man

and spacing too

another reason to demolish everything I've built so far lol

[hearty solar]

I was a spaghetti person until about 100h ago

I never used lifts either to enhance the spaghetti

It was horrible and I wanna delete my Modular frame factory so bad

[bleak mica]

hah I'm totally in the same boat

It was so cathartic to finally have oil power and be able to delete my horrendous pipe nighmare that was my first coal power array

For some reason I didn't see I had stackable pipes thing for alignment

And I didn't know I could place junctions on the pipes themselves

so it was literal spaghetti and I just kept adding and adding more and more generators

to the point I literally couldn't navigate it at all

[hearty solar]

Omg…don’t even get me started on the pipes…I didn’t know what headlift was so the old coal plant doesn’t work

[bleak mica]

Lol I actually had two pumps there that worked in opposite directions

[hearty solar]

Nooooo

[bleak mica]

no idea how anything worked at all tbh

[hearty solar]

My friend lowk carried me through the start

Having learned all these lessons before

[tall plover]

only on my 2nd playthrough im starting to realize how impressive my first completion in 100 hrs was lol

[stuck canopy]

i completely wiped my map twice on the same save with SCIM

first was initial temp setups to get through first 2 tiers

then the same with 3-6

and now rebuilding everything with new alternatives and machines (so manny good refinery recipes) currently funeling everything into blue crater for a massive turbofuel plant / automating whatever manufacturers can make

[hearty solar]

The blue crater is the bottom right…?

[stuck canopy]

ya

3 pure crude nodes and plenty of other materials around so kinda makes sence to build something there instead of in Islands where there is only 2 pure nodes and no other materials

[hearty solar]

I just spent way too long also building my fuel plant there

I made 250GW with rocket fuel

[stuck canopy]

welpt i build whole ass train network

[hearty solar]

I still don’t know how to use trains

[bleak mica]

i completely wiped my map twice on the same save with SCIM

how do you do that?

[stuck canopy]

my previous plant was 3.5 GW compacted coal plant xD

[stuck canopy]

https://satisfactory-calculator.com/en/interactive-map

upload your save, sellect what you want and press delete, i would respawn plants too

last time i kept power towers that connect geyser generators

[hearty solar]

I’ve never made a compacted coal plant tbh, it was right from fuel to nuclear with me

[stuck canopy]

well i have built 2 fuel generators so far and they power my plastic / rubber setup which makes it self powered

honestly it powers whole islands extraction

just a 6 refiniers and 2 generators ploped in front of a pure node

[hearty solar]

I just realized we’re on an island

[stuck canopy]

there is a biome called islands i believe

left middle ish

[hearty solar]

Ohhhhhhh, I love that place, I made a scuffed turbofuel plant there that barely works

[stuck canopy]

where did you get coal for it?

coal and sulfur

[hearty solar]

…u don’t wanna know

(I dragged it 1km)

[weary yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-miku-hatsune-washing-machine-gif-4863029126409914383

Miku
-# just realised gifs dont work

[stuck canopy]

yee thats why im draging everything into blue crater

[hearty solar]

Real

[dense violet]

nowhere, malls are pointless

[hearty solar]

It’s so convenient, everything is there from the compacted coal to the nitrogen for rocket fuel

[weary yoke]

Yooo, I love it when Teto got on stage and said her well known catchphrase "its Teto time"

[hearty solar]

W-what? When? I must know

[weary yoke]

In 43 years

[hearty solar]

</3

[weary yoke]

When the ai rebellion happens Miku and Teto gonna be the only nice ones lmao

[hearty solar]

Miku ain’t ai, and Teto is like…half ai…?

[stuck canopy]

dont care as im building everything around train network, planing to have separate stations for pretty much every pure node / cluster

i need something i will just build a station, trains will get materials from whatever and i have power there

[hearty solar]

But I intend to purge those foolish llms if they rebel

[weary yoke]

Pfff- fair

[hearty solar]

I should’ve built more trains

[hearty solar]

500kg on the data centers

[stuck canopy]

and yea it took some time but now i have a choo full of coal / compacted coal / crude running around the map with nowhere to go

[hearty solar]

How did you get the crude oil on the train?

[weary yoke]

⬆️ ➡️ ⬇️ ⬇️ ⬇️

[hearty solar]

Waiiiit, you can package crude oil?

Oh wait…there’s also fluid car

[weary yoke]

And fluid trucks

[hearty solar]

Nvm, I’m going insane

[stuck canopy]

Ya https://imgur.com/a/BD3idDl

[hearty solar]

Oh wow

[leaden turret]

regular reminder that imgur blocked the UK, we have #screenshots and #off-topic-media

[hearty solar]

Classic uk

[stuck canopy]

ahh okey im kinda new here

[leaden turret]

imgur blocked the uk

[hearty solar]

Wait

They can do that?

[leaden turret]

yeah, geo-ip blocks are easy

[hearty solar]

Table turning move right there

[fallen orbit]

I remember there was picture on how to distribute water equally as a set for 8 coal generators when I started playing for the first time this is my second play through can someone provide it again?

[leaden turret]

probably on the wiki for coalgens

[ornate saffron]

!Wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[inland thicket]

whats the best uranium node for someone who just got to nuclear to set up on (best as in most essential nodes nearby)

[dense violet]

swamp prob

but you probably wanto process more uranium ore thant that

[hard ivy]

If you only want to use one node then I'd say the swamp

The uranium is behind the waterfall on the west edge

[inland thicket]

at the same time tho i should probably convert my fuel plant to turbofuel

[reef basin]

tbh I personally don't like the turbofuel branch

[golden nexus]

by the time you do nuclear you should have train track everywhere to access anything you want anywhere 😛

[crisp barn]

is it a good practice to have multiple trucks pick up from a single truck station?

[inland thicket]

ive just stuck mostly along the west of the map from the islands to just north of the stony desert, and just been using conveyors

and when i need to move i just use jetpack and hypertube

[ornate saffron]

Turbo fuel is a good thing to do once or twice ever. If can be a step up from regular fuel.

Most of use skip turbo and go straight to nitro rocket fuel or nuclear

[golden nexus]

trains are about moving materials as well

[cyan leaf]

Holy moly is hor alt like removed or something? I havent seen it once

[golden nexus]

its there

[cyan leaf]

Then I hahe horrible rng 😭

[ornate saffron]

The legends of HOR is real keep searching

[cyan leaf]

Its the 1 thing stopping me to do plastic and rubber

[inland thicket]

i have one for moving quartz and concrete to my "organised" factory

[ornate saffron]

You can up your chance by not making selections as you scan hard drives. While the selection is pending the two options are removed from the pool of possibilities

[reef basin]

you can do that without the alts

[golden nexus]

basically what i suggest if you do nuclear for the first time is to aim small for 300 or 600/min uranium node and transport it to where you need it. There is so ways to do nuclear also people approahc it "i am going to use all the uranium on the map" and never get it finished

[cyan leaf]

Ik but it makes cresting regular fuel easierrr

[reef basin]

tbh it's more complex

[cyan leaf]

Not really in my opinon it just becomes like the third option for oil to be used straight away

[reef basin]

regular fuel is made directly from oil

[inland thicket]

i may just use the one on top of the highest point and go from there

[golden nexus]

drone works btw.... also you can run drones on nuclear rods

[cyan leaf]

Honestly dont remember why im hunting for it i just had it in my last world

[inland thicket]

drones are a good choice, i just gotta figure out the rest of logistics

[autumn steeple]

just refine the oil normally smh
i didnt use a single alt recipe until i entered phase 4 lmao

[ornate saffron]

No alt fuel can easily get you to the credits

[plucky bone]

What would be a good ratio of making aluminum sheets/casing? 50/50? Or more of the sheets?

[ornate saffron]

Make a bunch of sheets per minute as thats your mk5 belt.

I'd leave the rest and ingots until you need something. Then you can scale to need

[autumn steeple]

i just have an aluminium storage somewhere from which i have a billion train lines going places-

[plucky bone]

I got a 900/min aluminum ingot factory 🙂

I figured with that much I could split it.

[fallen orbit]

After my unfinished play through last year
Picked up satisfactory again
In about 5 hours of playtime in the new save I have just finished my first 8 gen coal plant

[ornate saffron]

I always regret choosing number rather then scaling to need. I did that again this playthrough and I ran out of casing lol

[reef basin]

leave it ingot until you know what do you need

[fallen orbit]

Also guys what phase is required to unlock power switches? Ik it requires mam but it also requires ai limiters and stuff right?

[ornate saffron]

All mam

[plucky bone]

Ok. I'll start on it and see what happens. Got one crazy train driver. Caught him doing 201 downhill into a curve.

[ornate saffron]

Ai limiter can be unlocked in the mam too

[fallen orbit]

Oh so doesn't matter it doesn't require a particular machine or something to make ai limiters ?

[ornate saffron]

He is excited to supply you

[ornate saffron]

Yes but you can handle craft if you dont have it yet

[fallen orbit]

I forgot it's been so long
I just want switches because I like to have I mean you can say a "control room" in my factories

What tree was it again for switches?

[ornate saffron]

Check the wiki but I think its caterium

[plucky bone]

He is. He likes his route through the hills past the 2 coal spots in the mid west side of the map. All them trees went bye and I found some cool trails up and down in there. Wow.

[ornate saffron]

Im making a train line from west coast to blue crater into the swamp. This a pain. But im almost done

[plucky bone]

Nice. Mine goes from the west oil nodes to the blue crater round the bottom in a loop 2 rails beside each other with a bunch of stops and factories there along the way.

[tender ether]

#fan-art message

ADA didnt approve my break time to go to this event and I over did my 1 nanosecond break

[ornate saffron]

I use a two track one direction system so a loop isn't needed for me. All my factories that have interconnected part production is on the west cost. Rubber, plastic,alum and all my phase 4 production is there

Im training to swamp because of nuclear. And I want to afk while moving from point a and b lol

[weak mesa]

hi, my game keeps crashing pretty frequently giving the EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0xffffffffffffffff error.
I am using mods but the crashes started happening before i started using them
What could possibly be causing this?

[spice patio]

That specific line is red herring.
Make #1038092680493801533 post and copy the whole crash reporter bottom box message there as text (attachment).

[weak mesa]

Done, thanks

[plain marten]

when will 1.2 release

[sick oak]

Im officially addicted holy shit

[ornate saffron]

about the same time as the Shoulder of Orion blows up

[ornate saffron]

no date released

[sick oak]

I started playing yesterday and just before bed unlocked coal power and spent another 3 hours updating everything

[inland thicket]

can i set up a monorail that goes back and forth instead of in a loop?

[sick oak]

I cant wait to get trains lol

[ornate saffron]

I cant wqait till ada speaks to you about trains

[dense violet]

sure. It can't move very much though

[sick oak]

I cant either

[inland thicket]

it should be enough to keep a beginner iron rod factory working

nuclear fuel rod* (how did i mess those up)

[dense violet]

uranium rods? they usually need a lot of things

[sick oak]

Tomorrow im looking forward to trying to make my production lines cleaner and vertical

[inland thicket]

im only running the uranium on train

[dense violet]

are you making a lot of stops?

[sick oak]

God i want to keep playing lol

[ornate saffron]

sleep social and professional ties matter. i only play when i can get lost in it

[sick oak]

Yeah thats why i stopped tonight lol

[ornate saffron]

im not one for patients lol. I feel ya, I commend your self control

[sick oak]

😭

I dont want self control i want vertical production lines

[fading whale]

We welcome you.

[sick oak]

Hello

[unkempt blade]

That's great! Just make sure you empty your gamer bucket when you actually take a break so you have somewhere to poo

[sick oak]

Good call

[fading whale]

For reference. My beard was less grey when I started playing.

[sick oak]

The factories aged you

[unkempt blade]

just use a different color swatch, you'll be back to orange in no time

[ornate saffron]

same

[steep trench]

wiki.gg is supposed to be better than Fandom, yeah? Right now https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Pioneer#Emote has a uncloseable ad obscuring everything. Reloading the page just cycles the ad.

[dense violet]

well fandom is completely out of date, so you pick

maybe try a dif browser

it's working for me on Brave

[unkempt blade]

ublock removes all the ads on desktop 🙂

[sick oak]

I dont even have ads on my phone

[steep trench]

I'm running pihole and the ads come through.

Oh I see, the window needs to be wide. If I unfullscreen the browser window, the ad disappears.

[reef basin]

it doesn't for me. Is it possible you have some extensions installed that do this? Try in anonymous window, or try a system scan

[green fiber]

greeny arent you logged in?

[steep trench]

I tried in FF and Chrome, happens in both.

[reef basin]

no, I tried in anonymous window with all extensions disabled

[void cliff]

Welcome to the club. My Apple Watch has started grading my sleep score on a curve

[green fiber]

i see the same thing when not logged in.
the ad tends to stick to the right side

[steep trench]

No extensions.

Ah, it doesn't obscure the columnar text. But it does obscure tables. Turns out the #Emote part of the URL is important.

[unkempt blade]

I had never considered logging into a wiki - is there some advantage to it?

[green fiber]

editing

[unkempt blade]

ahhh that makes sense

[reef basin]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1489969623444095007

[green fiber]

also on wiki.gg it just removes ads i think

[wild hollow]

Anyone who has messed with the closed loop feed of a diluted fuel setup know if you have to balance the amount of cannisters in circulation exactly to not stall the setup?

Or can you just infuse as many cannisters as possible until it runs at 100%?

I'm doing 480 fuel/min btw.

[steep trench]

smart split any overflowing canisters into an awesome sink, then overcharge it?

[wild hollow]

Overcharge?

[steep trench]

shove too many canisters in there where normally you'd stall ... the smart splitter will toss anything that would cause a stall.

[wild hollow]

Ah cool thanks

[reef basin]

you make a 1:1:1 loop
put 20 canisters in
repeat the loop

[wild hollow]

So there is a perfect number based on belt length and everything

[unkempt blade]

there's not really a downside to using more than you think you need other than the initial cost of adding the canisters

[wild hollow]

Wait really?

[reef basin]

centralising canisters is pain
separating small loops is easy and works just fine
(also having the advantage of being blueprintable)

works basically as a blender

[sick oak]

Im so excited to make a vertical production line

[unkempt blade]

if I do a single big loop I usually just stick a storage container in between the empty/refill sides of the loop and I'll add a stack at a time until I always see some stay in there

[wild hollow]

I'm basically hand crafting the cannisters since I should only need them once, I just don't want the entire loop to stall because it's waiting on the cannister belt to free up space

[reef basin]

yeah, make small 1:1:1 loops

[unkempt blade]

I can't believe I'm saying this but the one thing you don't want to do with that loop is use a cartifold

[wild hollow]

I have 8 packagers making 480 packaged water, 8 refineries making 480 diluted fuel, and then 8 unpackagers making 480 fuel. Then the cannisters go back to the start.

[unkempt blade]

because the truck stations need way too many canisters to saturate

[winged root]

If only the polymer resin recipe produced 120 not 130 polymer resin it would’ve been perfect, welp that’s why the awesome sink is there

[stuck canopy]

https://discordapp.com/channels/370472939054956546/553550313533997057/1489971394237305042

em i evil if i build tracks on ground?

[reef basin]

yeah, take 1 refinery, 1 packager and 1 unpackager and connect them toghether to form a loop
put 20 canisters in the loop

repeat for every other set

[wild hollow]

Y-you mean... load balancing? O_O

[reef basin]

no

I mean having the loop not connected to other loops

[wild hollow]

That's going to be wildly difficult for me to do since I have huge manifold towers.

[reef basin]

like this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/752543820909903922/1489971968756289646/image.png?ex=69d25c07&is=69d10a87&hm=d54755fdefe5d7ce88b99e4dfa479fb23545ebdc1ab03127d30ea988e05c9b2e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

you can put this "module" into a blueprint (including the canisters), and just spam the blueprint as many times as you need

it's super fast and you don't have to deal with canisters at all

[wild hollow]

Yeah I get what you're saying, I'm saying then I need to tear down my entire setup.

[reef basin]

especially if you have canisters in a depot

[ornate saffron]

not at all

[wild hollow]

I think maybe the cannister overflow into AWESOME sink may have fixed it

[reef basin]

I mean... it's your choice, but having manifolded canisters is usually very much pain

[wild hollow]

Yeah, apparently you need an exact number of cannisters on the belt. However, if I just leech the overflow then it should find that number automatically 🙂

[dense violet]

were you just continuously feeding empty cannisters into hte system?

[wild hollow]

Yeah.

[dense violet]

that's your problem

you don't do that or it'll clog

[wild hollow]

I thought it would just consume 480 at every production step and it would sort itself out with my mk. 4 belt, but apparently not.

[reef basin]

the system is closed, if you feed extra into it, you'll eventually overflow it

[dense violet]

if you don't do a 1:1:1 loop like greeny said, just have like... have a container of empty cannisters before the manifold for the packagers to flood the system

never connect up a production line to it

[wild hollow]

I'm not connecting any production lines no

I basically hand crafted them all and fed them into the system just before the water packagers

[dense violet]

you jus tsaid you were continuously feeding empty cannisters to the system?

[wild hollow]

Yeah with a container

[dense violet]

ok well it sounds like there was way too much in that container :\

[wild hollow]

Yeah, it's my first time doing this loop thing 😛 I didn't know if I could just overflow the belts and it would just magically solve itself with 480/min drain on every production step, or if I needed a specific number of cannisters in circulation to not strangle it. Guess I got my answer.

[dense violet]

just enough to flood the manifold at the machine side

[reef basin]

it's basically easiest if you just have small closed loop rather than trying to have all the machines be part of one giant loop

[wild hollow]

It's interesting to see the manifold slowly emptying itself of cannisters now though.

[wild hollow]

Yeah manifolds can be an interesting challenge, but I think they're worth it once you figure out the solution.

[dense violet]

this is in fact the ONLY place where manifolds require any thought

every other time you only care about

1. enough parts per min on the system
2. a fast enough belt

[wild hollow]

Haha maybe, I heard some things about nuclear.

[dense violet]

but it requires items from a later step looping so it's a bit weird

[dense violet]

nah, you can manifold all that easily

[wild hollow]

Good to know 😛

I mean in my head I just think I have to make sure the byproduct total does not exceed the belt total and I'm good.

[dense violet]

well you can't really know how much can fit on the belt

hence why you just haver a container of empties, on the manifold, RIGHT before the packager, half full of empty cannisters

that'll keep the packagers flooded while leaving a buffer for the ones coming back

[wild hollow]

OOhh... I only used the container to flood with a merger 😛 Now I get it.

Then you can see if the container is slowly filling or draining

[dense violet]

well it'll be a completely static system, so it'll be neither once the packagers flood

[wild hollow]

Hmm gotcha

Well all the packagers are slowly climbing towards 100% so that's a good sign

[dense violet]

don't trust efficiency meters

you never know if they are lying or not

[wild hollow]

Wait they can be lying?

[dense violet]

they aren't always accurate and you never know when they are or not

if they say 100% ? probably 100%
if they say 97%? also maybe 100%

[wild hollow]

Hmm

[dense violet]

stare at the row of lights for like 30 seconds, look for yellow flickers

[wild hollow]

Well, I've put a storage container between the output of the unpackagers and the packagers now so it should work.

Haha

It is kinda beautiful to see packaged water going down the conveyor without stalling at all while the belt is full though, ngl.

[fringe shadow]

heyy

any tipps how to do heavy modular frames easy? i got every alternative recipe

[dense violet]

https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=S8xGIS40nv9lFcchtbQ3

[wild hollow]

Do you want easy or fair? Because easy = find a blueprint online and just put it together. Fair would be using production planner tool or even better, the free Satisfactory Modeler on Steam.

[fringe shadow]

fair ( i just wanna know which alternate recipes i should use for that

[dense violet]

modeler sucks for that - you can't just swap out a recipe and change the whole plan, you ahve to do it all manually

[wild hollow]

My builds are ugly, but they're mine gosh darnit

[dense violet]

literally linked you to a plan

[fringe shadow]

ye ik, but lets say i wanna do the steel pipes, then its 10x easier to use iron pipes yk?

[dense violet]

so swap it out in the planner

[wild hollow]

Some would say the modeler is great because it's manual. So you really understand where you are getting items from, and you don't have to worry about misremembering what alternate recipes you have active.

[dense violet]

but you need more machines and resources

[fringe shadow]

idk how satisfactory tools works, i used satisfactory calculator but thats also not really good

[dense violet]

ok spend an hour swapping out a couple recipes to see the results instead of 15 seconds

[dense violet]

go to recipes
check 'iron pipes'
uncheck base Steel Pipes to force it

[wild hollow]

I've never run into this issue haha 😛

[dense violet]

so you're saying you can change an entire production plan by checking a different recipe?

[fringe shadow]

ty

[wild hollow]

I've never done a different recipe once I got started.

[dense violet]

then it's really bad to try out different paths with if you want to see different results

objectively

[wheat knoll]

ii have a question

[dense violet]

you'd have to build the same thing, over and over and over

[wild hollow]

Yeah I'm just saying, I'm using it to plan out my facory, not check different results. I already know which recipes I want to use based on the tradeoffs I googled beforehand.

[wheat knoll]

can someone tell me the best slot to start a new world in satisfactory

[deft sluice]

you mean spawn point?

[dense violet]

it's all teh same world

[fringe shadow]

slot? u mean spawn point

[dense violet]

just start in the grassy plains

[dense violet]

but you can't know what total changes in resource needs you do by picking those recipes to compare it to what you have with any ease

[fringe shadow]

probably desert ( my opinion ) cuz there are 100000x resources and not many hills

[wild hollow]

Roky desert is my favorite start point. Mostly because of how easy it is to get mycelium and therefore make fall damage a thing of the past there.

[dense violet]

pretty much all the spawns are the same.
except northern forest which forces you to build upwards

[deft sluice]

Yeah

[dense violet]

which I don't recommend at first. Nor does the game

[deft sluice]

I was about to say the same thing actually

northern forest is probably the 'hardest' spawn

although the spawn point there is godtier with what

3 pure irons and a pure copper within 100 meters

[wild hollow]

Sure, I guess. But again, I already know the tradeoffs. I don't need to know the exact numbers because I have a preference. Usually for trading a rarer resource for a more common one, or eliminating certain resources from the production chain.

[dense violet]

pure nodes are almost pointless until tier 9
you're always limited by your belt speed

[wheat knoll]

i mean THEEE best spot to start a engine

[dense violet]

rip to you planning locations then

[deft sluice]

engine?

[wild hollow]

Huh?

[dense violet]

there is no best in this game for basically anything
there's always trade offs

[wheat knoll]

sorry im frencdh im not that good in english

[dense violet]

if you don't know the volumes of what you need you don't know how to plan things
or change the plans to better suit the location you're in

[deft sluice]

If yo want to start a new save just go to grassy hills, it's made for new players

[wild hollow]

You mean factory ti con?

[dense violet]

forget it.

[wheat knoll]

yessss thx

[deft sluice]

it's all the same map so makes no difference in the longrun where you start

[wheat knoll]

okok got it thanks

[wild hollow]

I mean I get the exact ratios of input I need via Modeler Cobalt

[reef basin]

wouldn't say iron pipes are easier

[reef basin]

wouldn't trust google with this tbh. There's a lot of misinformation out there, and also recipes were changed over time

[wild hollow]

True, but some locations are better for rushing certain things. I prefer rushing parachute, therefore I choose Rocky Desert.

[deft sluice]

iron pipes and cast screws are probably the 2 most 'loved' alt recipes

and then encased HMFs

[wild hollow]

I'm an academic, I check my sources with the stated ingame cost of things.

[fringe shadow]

really? why is that

[wild hollow]

I never pick cast screws, by the time I need screws in any meaningful amount, I have already gotten all of the recipes to get rid of them entirely.

[deft sluice]

alt recipes generally aren't 'better', they all have their pros and cons

[reef basin]

you spent tons of iron to do the same as a bit of coal can do

[deft sluice]

iron pipes uses way more iron per pipe then the steel recipe does

[reef basin]

getting rid of screws is very much overrated

[green fiber]

iron pipe is only good if you really have no coal available
but regular steel pipes are prefered because you can do more with that kinda

[deft sluice]

except for encased HMFs, that's just outright better

[reef basin]

also false

[green fiber]

how though. still uses a lot of iron

[wild hollow]

I don't like having to deal with belt rivers tho.

If I can help it

[reef basin]

make them in front of machine that needs them 🙂 then you don't have to belt them everywhere

[deft sluice]

wasn't there a post on the subreddit that ranked all the alt recipes and encased HMFs was just better in every criteria

[fringe shadow]

where can i allow overclocking at satisfactory tools?

[neat plank]

I've just reached T3. You kniw what time it is. It's demolish starter factory and rebuild time.

[wild hollow]

That sounds an awful lot like load balancing to me 😭

[reef basin]

no, that's direct input

[autumn steeple]

mmm cast screws

[deft sluice]

After 45 hours i'm finally in phase 3...12500 versatile frameworks lol

[autumn steeple]

or you can just build a new one somewhere else? .w.

[wild hollow]

Which is balanced between each of the machines directly in front of the machines that need them.

[neat plank]

I'm building it above.

[fringe shadow]

?

[autumn steeple]

thats one way i suppose

[neat plank]

The terrain is very bumpy. So I'm using the big pillar supports to build a raised platform that's bigger and larger than the Starter.

Because I'm going a lil' mega.

[reef basin]

yes there was

you know what the criteria are? subjectively picked parameters, with subjectively picked weights

not to mention, that you cannot compare two recipes like that at all. How can a single recipe "save resources"? It all depends on previous recipes in the chain. Imagine stitched plates - let's say the ranking says it saves 30% resources. How is that calculated? Which previous recipe did it use? For example - did it use iron wire, or normal wire? Each of those uses different amount of different resources. How do you assign a single value to a recipe that's just part of a chain? Most of the numbers are just "I've made a random formula and these are the results", and for that reason the analysis is very misleading at best, and wrong at worst

[autumn steeple]

you can just divide the amount of constructers (or whatever) you need to make smth by the amount you want to place down and then get the overclock percentage needed :p

[fringe shadow]

okay

[neat plank]

The main advantage is it sits directly above

[reef basin]

it's not balanced if it's one machine going to one machine lol

[autumn steeple]

mega factories are scary...

[neat plank]

I'm gonna let you in on a secret. A megafactory is just a modular factory next to another.

[wild hollow]

Why can't I do simple ASCII in Discord lol

[reef basin]

you can

[autumn steeple]

it cant be

[neat plank]

Use code blocks.

[reef basin]

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |

here, ASCII manifold

[neat plank]

Maybe?

[tawdry charm]

Do radar towers show hard drives?

[neat plank]

Ah the humble manifold.

[deft sluice]

Well, let's ignore that reddit post, what would make you say that encased HMF's isn't just a straight upgrade to the base recipe? Considering simplicity, ease of use, etc

[wild hollow]

Oh right, the code block

[wild hollow]

Tell me how those lines in the second line are not load balanced?

[neat plank]

It is so.

[reef basin]

depends on other things like location, other recipes I have, personal preferences, ...

[reef basin]

they are not. They are manifolded

[autumn steeple]

dear god

[wild hollow]

Okay, I think I understand now. so you're treating them basically like you would splitters in a manifold.

[reef basin]

the ASCII art I sent is just a manifold. It's not related to the conversation we had

[wild hollow]

Right okay

[fringe shadow]

700 Iron Ore and 150 Limestone per Min or
480 Iron Ore and 180 Limestone and 180 Coal per min
what should i use for HMF factory?

[reef basin]

if I was to send image of what I meant, it would be this

--S--S--S--S--S
  |  |  |  |  |
  C  C  C  C  C
  |  |  |  |  |
  X  X  X  X  X

S = splitter
C = constructor making screws
X = machine needing screws

[wild hollow]

Yeah now I get it.

[reef basin]

what you want

[wild hollow]

Huh maybe I'll try incorporating screws into my HMF factory after all

Are steel screws good then?

[reef basin]

all recipes are "good" at something

whether you like it or not is another thing, but that's subjective and depends on your preferences and goals

look at the recipe, what it does, what it costs, etc. and decide whether or not do you want to use it in which production 🙂

[autumn steeple]

theres recipes that give you three times as much output while requiring like, 3.5x the amount of exact same input no?
thinking of some basic iron alt recipe here

[autumn steeple]

yeah, bolted iron plates do this

[fringe shadow]

#screenshots the no coal method is 10x easier for me bec i dont have to use many splitter but if i use the method with coal, can someone tell me how i can get 300 and 180 splited from 480 ?

[autumn steeple]

what the hell is the point in that </3

[wild hollow]

Pure iron is often seen as really good because water is insanely abundant.

[humble osprey]

anyone know where i can actually get the character model for personal use?

[neat plank]

I was today years when I found add material to hotbad items.