satisfactory

[limpid cedar]

I hate refineries with all my heart

Idk i find their shapes hard to work with haha

[dim cradle]

Probably by design

Their recipes are really efficient, but their fluid and space constraints give you a tradeoff

[limpid cedar]

Yeah, but if only the smoke is the dealbreaker for me xD, i like to build enclosed stuff so it looks bad imo

But i agree pure recipes are VERY good, i had like 3 factories with dimensional depots stacking, so i can foundation the whole map in a minute

[dim cradle]

This was from long before I finished my factory, but I think this is where I made a caterium ingot refinery stack. #screenshots message

I think I managed to get it to all auto link up vertically, output and input

[limpid cedar]

Just need pesto for that spaghetti hahaha

[dim cradle]

Oh you didn't see what the end result looked like after phase 5. #screenshots message

[limpid cedar]

That`s more like it ❤️

[dim cradle]

I made it megaspaghetti

[limpid cedar]

I tend to have my belts pretty, but my wiring OMG xD

[dim cradle]

#screenshots message and then made a wasteless nuclear power block a bit later

[limpid cedar]

Spiderman would be proud

[fluid grail]

was the jason april fools thing a real thing you could wear? I kinda wanna wear it cause it looks so goofy

[valid glacier]

So would this work? (the lifts are in reversed mode) ( #screenshots )

[limpid cedar]

Not a fan of straight belts are you? hahaha

[valid glacier]

yeah i realized that when i was taking the screenshots the manifold was wonky but im not bothered redoing it so..

[dim cradle]

What's your goal with this?

[limpid cedar]

I used to build like that, then i learned about logistics floors, life changer ❤️

[tranquil bolt]

Ive been de speghetting my belts, my power likes look good. My pipes on the other hand, oh my🤣

[limpid cedar]

Pipes should be a mess, it`s on the constitution

[dim cradle]

It doesn't matter as long as it makes sense in my head.

[tranquil bolt]

Whats worse is i used to be an industrial plumber🤣 i used to make huge copper manifolds that looked so perfect and pretty

[limpid cedar]

In my case i had the "too much factorio syndrome"

The hardest thing to learn in satisfactory is that IT IS NOT FACTORIO hahaha

[tranquil bolt]

How are you doing logistics floors? Are you feeding machines from the bottom up?

If so, how tall are your buildings🤣

[limpid cedar]

Yep, 8m high logistic floor, below the buildings

[limpid cedar]

Depends on the item being produced hahah i have a BP that`s 6 walls tall (2 logistics 4 machines)

[tranquil bolt]

Is it a megafactory?

[limpid cedar]

But i`m not in the "mass producing" phase yet, I keep a steady supply until i get nuclear

[limpid cedar]

Not really, mostly isolated districts and one distribution station

[tranquil bolt]

Im working nuclear now. But its not going great

[wispy mulch]

That's how a lot of people do them. Leave 4/8m space between floors

[limpid cedar]

I find 4m too little, normally i measure logistic floors height in "splitter units"

[feral vector]

oh god why didn't I get liquid biofuel for my jetpack sooner

it's like 10x better than normal biofuel lol

[limpid cedar]

So for manufacturers logistic floor would be a bit higher since i need 4 splitter chains plus a few meters to move myself

[valid glacier]

I have opted for this instead, because each constructor needs 15 iron ingots per minute and each smelter makes 30 iron ingots per minute. #screenshots

[tranquil bolt]

Wait till you have rocket fuel

[feral vector]

8m seems good for a logistics floor but I'm a newb still

[limpid cedar]

That`s called balancing, not bad for a first run

[feral vector]

you figure out transportation yet? I'm still trying to get a train working lol

[limpid cedar]

You will definetly get better the more you play with that

[valid glacier]

well its nothing special for me so...

[valid glacier]

well ive learnt train tracks, just gotta make a level concrete road and put tracks on it and thats pretty much it of what i know about trains

[limpid cedar]

Preparte to spend a few hours on it, i ended up with a train network with 2 channels

[feral vector]

it's been all day so far lmao

[limpid cedar]

Cleaner and more predictable, on the downside, stations are BIG

[valid glacier]

can railways go down and up?

[wise junco]

Fackory

[feral vector]

I'm doing dual tracks, I figure it's not that much slower than just running a single one

[feral vector]

yeah, for default ramps the steepest slope is the 2m ones, can't build on 4m ramps

[limpid cedar]

Yeah but careful with angle, too sharp and you`re screwed

[valid glacier]

okay

[tall lantern]

it's definitely much easier and more futureproof to use single-directional rails than bidirectional

so good habit to default to pairs of rails

[valid glacier]

god phase 3 factories are a pain considering that i just finished phase 2 not long ago...

[limpid cedar]

Yep, single directional Ftw, trains always on the right lane, and stations split and merge from the main line

[feral vector]

you can legit just container feed manufacturers for the ACU and modular engine

[limpid cedar]

Throw in a couple block signals, piece of cake, you still spend a lot of time building, but don`t get lost while on it

[feral vector]

just make sure you set up automation for the new stuff like computers and heavy modular frames

[valid glacier]

well i guess so but im guessing modular engines come in handy for the post-phase 3 milestones?

[limpid cedar]

I do start making proper factories with HMF, before that i just do a small bus

I use the bus to ease my life while building the train network, which is where i start modularizing the production

[feral vector]

not sure

if that's the case you can always build a better factory with your fancy mk5 belts though

[limpid cedar]

Production lanes aren`t that hard until you reach aluminum

[tall lantern]

almost all space elevator materials are only used for space elevator stuff, either directly or as subparts of other spelevator stuff

[magic bramble]

I have a save game where there's an invisible boombox on the ground somewhere and I cannot turn it off. Is there anyway to fix that?

[feral vector]

yeah it just depends if you need to automate something so you can have it ready for a higher level elevator part that requires them

[limpid cedar]

reaching aluminum is where the game tells you "expand or die"

[valid glacier]

thats what im mostly worried about because you need all sorts of machines and nodes/liquids and stuff

[feral vector]

is aluminum worse than automating the ACU and modular engines?

[tall lantern]

aluminium has new fun lessons

[limpid cedar]

Sorry what`s ACU?

[tall lantern]

ACU/Modular Engine are just plain crafting chains IIRC

[valid glacier]

adaptive control unit i think

[feral vector]

I was gonna automate ACU and was like wtf I have so many spare parts I can just build this with containers

[limpid cedar]

Oh

first ACU i made it by container feeding the machines

Haven`t automated it yet

[feral vector]

I still have 2+ containers of smart plating, versatile framework, automated wiring

not sinking them until I know I can't use them to skip part of a factory lol

[tall lantern]

you'll be able to use them as part of not automating later space elevator stuff, that's about it

[limpid cedar]

I normally container feed space elevator parts

[valid glacier]

you need smart plating and automated wiring to automate stuff later into the game im pretty sure?

[tall lantern]

only other spelevator parts

[limpid cedar]

You need smart plating for Modular Engines i think

[valid glacier]

yeah

[tall lantern]

(which are spelevator parts)

[feral vector]

yeah but if I have 5000 of them in a container it's proabably enough to just container feed that section of the factory

[limpid cedar]

Me myself i stoped caring to automate Elevator parts

[valid glacier]

phase 3 is adaptive control unit, modular engines and versatile framework

[feral vector]

I had like 5x as many smart plating as I needed for modular engines for example

[tall lantern]

correct

[feral vector]

and like more than 5x as many smart wirings as I needed for the ACU

if I need a ton of acu and modular engines for the next phases I'll end up suffering a bit cause I didn't automate them

but I can just build them as part of those chains I figure, meh

[limpid cedar]

Nah just place some manufacturers in the elevator, then you fill them up with containers

[south sinew]

every phase is built from the previous phase project parts with nuclear pasta being the only exception I think

[limpid cedar]

Imho is way easier to just dump 100 stacks of parts than automating it

I rather spend that time making my trains

[valid glacier]

wait if im correct cant i just destroy my modular engine factory after i complete phase 3 or do i need them to automate phase 4 parts too?

[tall junco]

This worked for me until phase 4

[tall junco]

u need them for phase 4

[limpid cedar]

I`m on phase 8 now, same strategy

[valid glacier]

so i also need adaptive control units for phase 4 too?

[tall junco]

yeahh

[limpid cedar]

takes a while to advance but i go drive hunting or building farther

For the new guys here, i`d recommend checking "gaming with doc" on youtube, that dude is real good ❤️

[valid glacier]

do alternate recipes become useful for phase 4 of space elevator?

[limpid cedar]

Never used alts for space parts

[tall lantern]

alternate recipes for everything can be useful any time

[valid glacier]

i watch kibitz, personally

[limpid cedar]

Also nice, but i feel doc is more "right to the point"

[valid glacier]

oh that guy, yeah hes a good one actually. i always see his shorts on my reccomended and they help allot

[limpid cedar]

There`s a lot of crazy builders out there, but sadly most of them talk a lot to show a simple concept, i lose track very easy

[vapid jasper]

if my smelter is 30iron/min and my crafter is 15 rod/min does that mean 1 smelter = 2 rod crafters each?

[tall junco]

Kibitz got me back into the game

[limpid cedar]

Indeed

[tall lantern]

assuming default clock speeds, yes

[tall junco]

yeah for sure

[limpid cedar]

Also never underestimate production planners xD

I cannot live without them nowadays

[tall lantern]

Tools ftw

though they are already aware of that one

[cunning siren]

Does tools do sloopage and oc yet?

[tall lantern]

it has always done OC, but not sloops

[limpid cedar]

I tried all of them, i`d rank tools first SCIM second and modeler like it didnt exist

[cunning siren]

😭

[tall lantern]

Modeler is a different category of tool to the others, not really fair to compare

[limpid cedar]

Probably I still dont understand it too much

[tall lantern]

I still haven't used it lol

[cunning siren]

I takes a while to learn all the features and how to use them

[tall lantern]

but it's more of a logistics planner for specific routing, vs Tools/Calc being more like solvers

[limpid cedar]

You guys play modded or vanilla?

[tall lantern]

vanilla

[limpid cedar]

I used to play model just for daisy chain, but that is solved now ❤️

modded*

The only thing i would ask for devs now is make machines flippable, but i dont see that happening anytime soon 🙁

[tall lantern]

that would be nice

probably a QA site entry for it somewhere

[limpid cedar]

Yeah it has been discussed a lot, but no luck

[cunning siren]

I love that it does sloopage and oc for everything, makes it easy to see how to spend the sloops. 10 BWD a min is pretty easy with the proper planning sloopage and OC

[dense violet]

alts are always useful in all stages

[hushed frigate]

AHH

HOW BIG IS THIS MAP

IVE BEEN GOING IN A STRAIGHT LINE FOR LIKE 10 MINUTES

[tall lantern]

7.972 km x 6.8 km according to the wiki

[wraith widget]

i hate cliffs and rocks i want to concrete the planet

[tall lantern]

only thing stopping you there is you

[worn oar]

Try 10 hours

[feral vector]

anyone know why my trains would constantly derail? issue with blueprints not connecting properly maybe?

[wraith widget]

i love industrialization and i hate rainforests

is this normal

[feral vector]

it first happened where a ramp connected to a flat part so I figured it was just the bump but now it's happening on flat straightaways lol rip

[west jackal]

anyone else get nervous when you max OC and sloop a pasta maker?

[west jackal]

the issue is when you have rails that are on edges of bp but you dont have it set to autocconnect

basically the train tracks look connected but arent actually connected

[feral vector]

yep I'm figuring that out

I laid like... 5km of tracks like this

[west jackal]

you can fix it but replacing every other section of track

[feral vector]

😭

[west jackal]

it sucks... but its not that bad

[feral vector]

loooool it's not very easy to stop a train going 200km/h

downside of having a big ramp down to a platform I guess

[feral vector]

that makes it a bit easier thanks

[valid glacier]

will fully pure nitrogen gas resource wells be useful in late game? because i have ALLOT of it

[west jackal]

im using ALL the nitrogen on the map

[coarse nova]

Yo guys im new here, playing the game for the first time so no spoilers pls
I got all milestones from tier 1-4
still grinding for tier 5-6 (omg its so tiring)
But anyways, i wanna make a flat base on top of the world, at 500M high up
I need some way to get up there quickly from the ground, can i do it normally with my current possibilities or do i need to wait and unlock other tiers first? I heard of hypertube cannons, but they seem to be really complex to setup, especially facing straight upwards

[west jackal]

if that answers your question @valid glacier

[feral vector]

oh for fucks sakes the chainsaw can't use liquid biofuel lol

[valid glacier]

damn

[west jackal]

there are mobility options in tier 5 or 6, plus there is a elevator item in the awesome shop you can buy

[feral vector]

you can just use a hypertube, not the cannon variant. use multiple entrances to go faster

[west jackal]

i was trying not to spoil what it was lol

but yeah, there are much better options than bounce pads

[coarse nova]

but how the hell do i make the GO UP

[feral vector]

they said they know about hypertube cannons

[west jackal]

?

[coarse nova]

because its really buggyi, i'll check the awesome shop btw

[west jackal]

they are really easy to go up wdym

[feral vector]

uhhh I don't know exactly but the tubes work kinda like pipes?

[west jackal]

the basically place the same ways as pipes

[worn oar]

What's a good way to split two belts of 300 into 5 belts of 120?

[west jackal]

you can buy floor and wall mounts in the awesome shop for the tubes

[coarse nova]

well the problem is that they cant attach to walls or ladders straight, and fine, they all bug as hell

[west jackal]

idk the best way, do you have priority merger or no?

[coarse nova]

btw i started playing this game 5 days ago, i already got 40 hours playtime lmao

[feral vector]

why do you need exactly 120 on each belt? just use a manifold and it will balance eventually?

[coarse nova]

its just that good

[west jackal]

well, regardless, since youre doing 120 belts, its easy to just have a splitter with 2 outputs be 120 each, and the remaining 60 goes into a merger on the line of the other 300, that makes 360 that you can split 3 ways
@worn oar

[feral vector]

yeah that'll happen lol its scary addictive

[coarse nova]

i see the wall mounts, but will that really help it go straight

[coarse nova]

fr

[feral vector]

just save before you buy them and test it

[coarse nova]

tho luckily its easter break, and im at the gathering in vikingshipet

[worn oar]

No not yet

[feral vector]

wall mounts should let you run pipes and tube vertical though

[west jackal]

honestely dex, youll learn best by experimenting, but its easy to make them go up when you get practice, id recommend building a pillar of foundations and use that to line it up

[coarse nova]

i've been learning for the past hour

[worn oar]

Because each level of my facility consumes 120

[west jackal]

you dont need priority merger for the way i said, i was thinking more complicated method

[coarse nova]

and researching, google ai is so stupid i came here

thx for the support

[civic cradle]

Is this a lil overboard production rate #screenshots message

[rigid surge]

always winds me up that you cant use other packaged fuels for the chainsaw

[dense violet]

tilt the hyper tube up

[west jackal]

no at all?

[worn oar]

Doesn't that require programmable splitter? I don't have computers up yet

[coarse nova]

no, it starts bugging

[west jackal]

im producing 77 fmf at the moment

[feral vector]

I have multiple sections of equipment that all use varying amounts of iron that add up to 480/min total and I didn't do anything besides split the 480 line off in multiple points. just a basic manifold

[coarse nova]

i wish

[west jackal]

smart splitter

programmable splitter is useless

[dense violet]

clock your machines to output 120 on a belt

[west jackal]

you should have smart splitter if you have mk4 belts lol.

its like t1 or t2 item, just copper sheets and quickwire

[worn oar]

I mean yeah I have that but I don't see how it's any better than a regular splitter

[west jackal]

because you can tell it to prioritize the 2 120 belts on the first splitter

[worn oar]

Each direction is the same item

[feral vector]

if all the machines on the floor take 120/min it will just work out well right? you'd only need to mess with it at the point where you had 60 left from the first belt of 300?

[west jackal]

you do any any overflow

that means it prioritizes the any before it gets to the overflow output

[worn oar]

Oh I see what you're saying

[dense violet]

you'd need a smart splitter for that or it could clog

[dense violet]

are teh 300s coming from a node or train?

[west jackal]

you can also just do an ISC with 2 splitters coming out of it with the 5 belts you want

[worn oar]

It's overclocked packagers for my sanity, so 100 each

[west jackal]

there are many ways of doing such a thing

[dense violet]

clock them so you can make groups of 120

[dense violet]

ISCs are not belt balancers , do not use them that way

[west jackal]

why not

[dense violet]

they don't balance belts. I just said that

[worn oar]

What is an ISC?

[west jackal]

as long as you have a buffer in them its fine?

[dense violet]

they ahve priority outputs

Double storage

[west jackal]

you just cant use it as a belt balancer if you dont have enough in them

[dense violet]

no, they are not reliable belt balancers

[west jackal]

whatever, i know youre right, but you CAN if you know what youre doing

[dense violet]

no, you cannot

not reliably, it's just a manifold at that point and depending on your designs and you merging things could clog up systems

[west jackal]

dude, i know that you are right, but they work for me in some situations so it doesnt really matter. what matters is i explained how to it with 1 smart splitter, 1 merger, and 1 regular splitter, they just need to either learn from what i suggested, or change clockings of the packagers like you suggested

[viral egret]

okay OKAY okay listen to me FOCUS fucking FOCUS already bro okay?? I HAVE to get AT LEAST to reinforced iron plates today or my mom is gonna be really sad and disappointed in me

[dense violet]

if you want to merge 2 belts and split , split both belts into 2 and merge 1 of each

[west jackal]

i wont recommend it anymore, i promise.

[dense violet]

in some situations that you do.
don't go suggesting it to others as a balancer thoug h

[feral vector]

so for the first 300 line, do normal splitter x2 then have an overflow smart splitter?

and then same for the second belt of 300, and merge the overflow back with the 60 overflow from the first belt?

[west jackal]

the first thing i suggested though is the "proper" way other than overclocking machines

[worn oar]

I went with splitting each output three ways into mk2 belts and merging the center into another one for 5 total, thanks guys

[west jackal]

no? just do 1 smart splitter with any any overflow as settings, the 2 any should be mk2 belts, the overflow should be a mk4 going into the merger that mergers with the other 300 lines then going into a splitter with 3 mk2 outputs

[viral egret]

is there a way to see my height in vanilla without mods?

[dense violet]

Put a smart splitter with over flow at the start

[viral egret]

like the Y coordinate

[west jackal]

yeah you can

[feral vector]

I didn't think of mk2 belts being perfect rate limiters lol

[viral egret]

...how?

[wise junco]

Who up satisfying they factory

[west jackal]

i use them to split 3 belts that are all close to 400 into 2 belts that are 600 with a special priority merger setup

[feral vector]

and the overflow goes where then?

[dense violet]

at the start when the main line backs up

[feral vector]

I got a train which was very satisfactory until I realized my blueprints didn't auto connect and I have to redo miles of track lmao

[wise junco]

Oh nooooo

[feral vector]

I got that part, where does the overflow belt go to though?

[bleak valley]

Usually an awesome sink

[dense violet]

to the extra parts that aren't getting fed by the 120s?

wherever needs the parts

[bleak valley]

Yeah

You can setup a secondary line using the leftovers or just sink it if you don’t need any more yet

Can always reroute it later

[west jackal]

cobalt do you know why putting smart splitter on a elevator lift causes the lift to split and like change direction?

if it helps, the section of lift that the splitter is on is between 2 floor holes

[feral vector]

I'm a bit confused why you'd need a smart splitter at the start for this and not for some normal manifold hmmm

oh god I gotta walk the dog or I'm gonna sit here being curious george for an hour again

[bleak valley]

Smart splitters at the end don’t function the same way as they do at the start of a line

The overflow function only works if the main flow gets backed up

[west jackal]

just accept that we know the way

[feral vector]

yeah but i manifold shit all the time and don't need a smart splitter at the start

[bleak valley]

The smart splitter isn’t required for a manifold its solving a different issue

[dense violet]

I don't use vertical splitters, sorry

[feral vector]

what issue though I'm trying to learn 😛

[west jackal]

okay, it seems like they are still working, now? but it is just a visual glitch

[bleak valley]

I didn’t read the entire conversation so I’m not sure details but

[wise junco]

Cobalt. Please go use vertical splitters to learn them and come back

[bleak valley]

There are vertical splitters?

[dense violet]

if you have 120 that needs to feed a system that uses less than 120 and then needs to over flow to another system, it's simplest to have the overflow before the manifolds so the primary manifold gets filled first, that way when you're merging a bunch of left overs you don't get a clog

[feral vector]

isn't limiting machine output on floors to rate limit incoming belts a kind of manifold?

[meager jacinth]

dumb question but whats the point of power towers when u can just use poles

[dense violet]

too ugly

[bleak valley]

Longer range for moving power large distances

[dense violet]

if you evenly split the manifolds when there's over flows, the overflows could go over belt limits and cause back ups

[feral vector]

do you have ziplines yet? power towers and ziplines are so busted for exploration

[bleak valley]

Also doesn’t kick you off when zip lining between them so doubles as transport

[meager jacinth]

no i just got them

[feral vector]

they are absolutely insane lol... you can place power towers down SO FAR AWAY, like up on a cliff, then just zipline up there ezpz

[bleak valley]

You just right click with a zip line and sit back as you get carried to your destination after setting up towers

[meager jacinth]

can u zipliine on the non platform ones?

[feral vector]

so it's a kind of balancer almost?

[bleak valley]

Yes

[bleak valley]

The platforms are just for climbing up to reach the line

[dense violet]

no, just an overflow that will prevent clogs

[feral vector]

might as well make platform ones IMO

[worn oar]

How do I stop getting kicked out of my hypertubes? So annoying

[meager jacinth]

ok cool ty guys

[feral vector]

I'm still missing something lol hmm

[wise junco]

If you want manifold A to fill before manifold B, you smart split at the beginning and set manifold A to Any then manifold B to overflow

With regular splitter it would be the wild west

[dense violet]

if you over flow from multiple places and don't use a smart splitter , you might over flow more than the overflow belt can handle, and it could cause a clog

[feral vector]

wouldn't both fill eventually anyways though?

[bleak valley]

Normal splitters do 50/50 so it would try and fills A and B at once and take ages to do either

[feral vector]

ohhhh it's cause you have overflow that you might merge back in??

[wise junco]

Theoretically, but setting priority

[dense violet]

if you have to merge the overflow with other overflows? yes

[dense violet]

if it was just going to it's own thing , then it would be part of the same manifold and wouldn't matter

[feral vector]

instead of a normal manifold where it's just splitters that saturate in a sequence

[wise junco]

A good use case imo would be coal gens. I have a node of 120 coal, but90 to gens and that HAS to stay full and I only want the 30 overflow to go to production

[feral vector]

right so it's like the blocks you were drawing for me the other day, you have leftover on a belt that goes elsewhere

[dense violet]

if the extra was going to it's own little thing, still just a regular manifold
but if you start mixing and matching it's much safer to have a SS set to overflow

[feral vector]

so in this example with 2x 300 belts coming in, the first splitter on each belt would have any going to the first group of 120 and the overflow continuing on to feed the rest?

ok cool cool I'm learning slowly lol

[valid glacier]

how can i split a belt of 183 items per minute into another belt of 36 items per minute?

[wise junco]

Use your machines to limit the usage

Or use machines to make separate belt lines with those amounts

[feral vector]

if the machines that connect to the second belt only need 36 items per minute, then a normal splitter will end up pushing that much down the belt naturally. I think 😛

[dense violet]

1 splitter

it'll self balance

[valid glacier]

alright

[wise junco]

ISB should be a server acronym... it'll self balance

[feral vector]

ok and then to use the 60 leftover from the first belt of 300 you don't gotta do anything special just merge it in before the 5th belt splits off?

of course you can do all this with mk2 belts and stuff I'm just trying to make sure I understand the stuff yall were helping me with the other night

[valid glacier]

ok what about if i have 2 belts of 183 and i need both of them to split into 36 do i just use 1 splitter on both of the 183 belts like you said

[north gull]

should i restart if i feel lost in my factory? im phase 4 rn

*i mean wipe it

[dense violet]

you need both split into 36 and 147? then sure

[feral vector]

why do you need two belts of 183? just use one belt of 183 and split it twice into the two 36 belts?

[feral vector]

then you'd still have 111 left on the belt for whatever else

why do you have 183 on a belt in the first place that's a weird number lol

[wise junco]

Leave it running, abandon it, go build somewhere else on the map

[wise junco]

laughs in belts with weird decimal per minute amounts

[feral vector]

destroying something that is making stuff for you is generally a bad idea

[valid glacier]

ask satisfactory tools lol

[valid glacier]

well that is the EXACT number i need

..but i figured its easier to just get another miner down lol

[reef basin]

all the numbers per minute are just your imagination anyway

the game doesn't (and never did) count in items/min

[feral vector]

ok so you just have a line of 183, split it once for -36, split again for -36, continue the belt into whatever else that needs the 111, it will balance itself out

[north gull]

ive done this b4 it seems i just get caught on smth and overwhelmed

[valid glacier]

can you show me an example of it i dont really understand

🙁

[feral vector]

can you share the satisfactory tools tab?

[valid glacier]

yes

[north gull]

also should i build backwards? from item down?

[merry rapids]

good very early morning!

[wise junco]

I plan from item down and build from resource up

[north gull]

wdym?

[west jackal]

no

plan item down, build up

[valid glacier]

okay give me 10 minutes i formed an idea that MIGHT work (it doesnt include more miners or splitters)

[valid glacier]

well it does include splitters now that i think about it

[feral vector]

gonna go walk the dog before it snows lol

I tagged you in my shitty paint drawing in the math channel

[valid glacier]

yeah i can understand it though lol

[storm zephyr]

can you automate trucks or do you gotta drive them

[valid glacier]

you can automate them but i dont use trucks so i dont know how

[dense violet]

all vehicles can be automated

[feral vector]

even in 1.1 you can drive a route once and the computer will run it for you after that

[storm zephyr]

whats better trains or trucks

[dense violet]

depends on your situation

like basically everything in this game there's no 'best'

[storm zephyr]

depends on distance?

[chrome bear]

how do I get that powerline grinder tool

[dense violet]

and terrain, and volume, and if you want a lot more things on teh same path

[feral vector]

if you could only have one for a playthrough I imagine most people would say trains, but trucks are really nice to bring stuff a shorter distance instead of running a big ass belt

like if you start in grassy fields or whatever it's called, one of the pure coal nodes is kinda far away, a truck was real nice for that for me

[feral vector]

it's the zipline, caterium research in MAM, can check on wiki for details

[storm zephyr]

so for longer range transport i should use trains?

[valid glacier]

ok i figured something out, i had a miner sitting at 60% rate making 72 iron ore per minute, so i just doubled it and made it 120%. so now all i have to do is split it once and it splits 72 on one belt and 72 on another which is the exact amount i need!

[dense violet]

depends on your terrain 🙂 you could truck any distance

[dense violet]

the power of trains is that it uses a lot more infrastructure, but becomes much easier to put more trains on the same lines

[storm zephyr]

the terrain is pretty rough

almost vertical in some spots

trains would be best for this i assume? #screenshots message

[dense violet]

part of chooseing factory locations and transit options is what logistics work with the terrain

[storm zephyr]

tbh im more concerned about transport speed

if trucks are faster i can just make a skyway

[spare prism]

I think I played this game way too hard I lost all motivation to play this game now

[dense violet]

speed is irrelevant, only throughput

[storm zephyr]

yea thats what i meant mb

[wraith widget]

mods changed my life

[dense violet]

any vehicle can have as much throughput as you need

[feral vector]

just keep in mind you don't always need to split into exact amounts like that. if you had a belt with 240 iron/min on it, you could just split it twice into those two groups of machines that each need 72/min, and you'd have 96 iron left on the belt for whatever else you needed

[dense violet]

also sky infrastructure is basically a loss condition, might as well get a mod that flattens the map if yo uwant a 2d game

[spare prism]

I already played modded

[feral vector]

lol what you mean loss condition

[storm zephyr]

so is it just preference

[dense violet]

you're letting the game beat you

[spare prism]

I just have to build a new coal plant with 10+ nodes and I really not feeling it to build a large factory 🙁 it just drains me thinking about it

[feral vector]

well what was easier, demolitioning tons of forests or building a couple ramps?

[dense violet]

no, terrain and use also makes differences

As explained earlier, for example, you need more infrastructure for Trains - BUT you can put a lot of trains on the same line

[storm zephyr]

can trains go in both directions

like train stations i mean

[timid rune]

on to balistic warped drive build!

[feral vector]

there were so many big rocks in the way to my oil lol I just went over most of them

[dense violet]

didn't delete 1 tree for this #design-and-architecture message

[dense violet]

yes, but you really want two lanes reallistically

[valid glacier]

that looks so cool

[storm zephyr]

well can trains go in reverse too

[feral vector]

welp I'll try that next time

[feral vector]

if you really want, you can have an engine on both sides of a train and run it down a single track

[dense violet]

yes, but it's really bad for traffic if yo uneed more than 1 train on a line

[feral vector]

yeah you'll eventually want to scale and then you gotta build a second line

[timid rune]

I am doing engine both ends this save but it isn't quite space efficent

because generally trains are short (at most 5 cars for me)

so 1 more engine is 1 less space for cargo

[dense violet]

I like stacked rail because you can hug the terrain a lot more closely. And takes up much less psace

[feral vector]

when you have two lines you can just do a circuit right? so you can add trains as long as they are spaced out?

[feral vector]

so those supports are like conveyor poles but for train tracks?

or do you gotta build them all like beams

[dense violet]

... I guess? they are just little towers you can blueprint

[feral vector]

bleh lol I'm happy with my sky bridge for now

setting all that up would take forever, even doing the cheesy way took me all day lmao

[timid rune]

just don't do something like I did #screenshots message

[feral vector]

jeez lol

[timid rune]

the throughput is actually quite ok

[storm zephyr]

i saw some guy talking about making tiny railway segments as blueprints, is this worth it orn ah

[smoky flame]

The real April Fools would've been they "fixed" the hypertube launcher

[radiant crypt]

im newer anyone wanna play?

[storm zephyr]

how do you stack the rails in a way that makes them look good?

beams on each side look ugly as shit

[dense violet]

beams?

not sure what you mean

[dense violet]

another example of stacked rail from someone else https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/932761153703149659/1360987971435630683/unknown.png?ex=69cfd152&is=69ce7fd2&hm=983947cd4fc2a6d163af1d25e9ea4e9b03da411cd36530dd95f2b7488fa0f34c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[storm zephyr]

whats the rail on top of?

thats what im mostly confused about honestly

[dense violet]

not sure what you mean, this is for 2 way traffic, like a road

[storm zephyr]

well theres something under the rails...

is it just foundation or is it something else

[dense violet]

in that last example just foundations yeah

[dense violet]

under mine I run pipes and belts under https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553550313533997057/955736748829311067/unknown.png?ex=69d01b75&is=69cec9f5&hm=55968a03b82ed4e0181e13abc9265d88b9febe343f1cc9af3d0f86ce8f1fc90f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[feral vector]

What's the laziest possible way to make supports for train tracks like this lol

[coarse nova]

anyone else still have ideas? for now im sticking with elevator, kinda slow, but it'll do temporarily

[feral vector]

Like not even a double stacked one

[wise junco]

just make somethin' ya like in the BP designer and spam it

[coarse nova]

whats bp

dont spoil

[wise junco]

blueprint

[coarse nova]

ah ok

[feral vector]

You can't just vertical zoop something?

[coarse nova]

like what

[coarse nova]

what?

[wise junco]

huh? the trick is you just make a support with rails in the blueprint designer then just connect the rails between it all. you only make it once really

[coarse nova]

what, i told you dont spoil pls, i didnt come to the train part yet

[wise junco]

i apologize, i was trying to answer their questions

[feral vector]

What if you need varying heights on the support is my main question

[wise junco]

my preferred method is to put the next blueprint butted up against the support i just placed, then nudge it where i need it, then drop support pillars as needed beneath

[coarse nova]

no need, my bad, i thought you were answering me, but feel free to ping if you get any solutions :D

[valid glacier]

finally getting off for the night after HOURS of building my modular engine factory (and its not even done yet..) but would anyone like to see what i built so far?

[feral vector]

What was spoiled? You probably don't wanna hang out here if you don't want to hear about stuff like trucks and the other transport options you don't have unlocked yet 🤔

[feral vector]

Hell ya

[coarse nova]

well i need to get support somewhere, where else do i look for help? ai overview lmao?

[wise junco]

reading your question, really hypertube cannons or hypertubes in general are your best option if you're going to skybase

[valid glacier]

ok its in screenshots

[coarse nova]

that i already answered, its really buggy and doesnt work for me very well for some reason, tho maybe im just doing it wrong

[wise junco]

there's really no other mode of transport that will fit your needs

[feral vector]

You could build a giant ramp with 4m foundations, have a platform every once in a while with a power towers then zipline up and down?

[coarse nova]

that'll take longer than the ladders

[coarse nova]

rip

[feral vector]

There's no way ziplining up a ramp is slower than climbing a ladder, really? 🤔

[coarse nova]

i would need to make a zig zag for it to work

since you cant zipline straight up

[feral vector]

What support are you placing to put the blueprint on?

[bleak valley]

Hyper tubes are pretty neat

[wise junco]

i have a metal pillar sticking out of the bottom of my train BPs - so i just extend it further down. when the new blueprint is butted up against the old one it's just hovering above the ground

[coarse nova]

Also i would constantly die of kinetic energy on the way down

[feral vector]

It could go straight at an angle following the slope of a long line of 4m ramps?

But for real hypertubes should work best what issue were you having with them?

[coarse nova]

idk, hyper cannons is what seems to be it, everyone's glazing them, but i cant seem to be able to setup one

[valid glacier]

64.6 hours playtime.. this game is amazingly addicting wow

[coarse nova]

hehe, i have 40 hours of playtime with just 5 days irl lmao

[feral vector]

You don't need a cannon just to get up to a floating platform, a normal tube would work fine? Certainly faster than a ladder

[coarse nova]

its 3 am for me btw

[bleak valley]

Do you need a hyper tube cannon or just a tube for small distance

[coarse nova]

not small distance

[bleak valley]

How far are we talking

[coarse nova]

i would need to travel 500m

[wise junco]

a series of hypertube entrances back to back would really get you enough speed imo

[coarse nova]

my sky base is at 500m altitude

[coarse nova]

idk, cant seem to get it to work

[bleak valley]

Watch a tutorial

[coarse nova]

all tutorials show how to do it sideways

[bleak valley]

It’s what I did

[bleak valley]

Do it how they show and angle the entrance up

[coarse nova]

i cant find one that shows a cannon upward

[bleak valley]

The speed carries the whole way

[wise junco]

you can start it sideways, turn it upward, then just put periodic hypertube entrances to keep laucnhing you up

[bleak valley]

I did it to hit the height limit

[wise junco]

or yes, that, if you can get enough speed

[bleak valley]

How many entrances you think for 500 meters

I don’t know the distance mine launches just the location I reach

[storm zephyr]

do we fw it #screenshots message

[storm zephyr]

make a loop so it builds up speed to get whatever distances you want

[wise junco]

i do like the concept. are you going to add supports underneath?

[bleak valley]

True but it can be hard to track once you hit a certain speed

[storm zephyr]

maybe

[coarse nova]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAxP3gIuSp0
this a good tutorial?

[bleak valley]

That’s a long one

But probably works

[wise junco]

honestly, i dig like the partially open tunnel vibe instead of enclosing the gaps in glass

[coarse nova]

ok then, what tutorial do yall think is good then

[wise junco]

i can't really help ya - never bothered with hypertubes except like one time ever

[coarse nova]

...

[dense violet]

one that says 1.0 or 1.1

[coarse nova]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-GlepYNjJA

this one?

[storm zephyr]

wish i could build underground and have a metro system lol

i remember someone saying it was possible to build underground but idk

[wise junco]

i've thought that before too. it would be sick

[dense violet]

should bd fine. it's an exploit tha breaks every update

[feral vector]

I don't think your gonna find a hypercube cannon tutorial for shooting up to a sky base, people launch across the map with those

[coarse nova]

wait hypertube cannons are an exploit?

idk man, now i kinda dont wanna do hypertube cannons

[dense violet]

you can, look up images from @zenith pecan

[coarse nova]

that would kinda be cheating

[feral vector]

You can just build a tube up with entrances every X meters

[dense violet]

regular tubes are very convenient, just build a network between your bases

[feral vector]

The devs have a history of keeping glitches and stuff in the game if players like them

[dense violet]

people essentially just bitched when updates that broke them happened and they fixed the glitch

it's really tedious honestly.

[coarse nova]

kinda hard aswell, for long running tube networks, if i wanna exit, how do i do that? i tried using the branch stuff, but it works really meh, sometimes works sometimes doesnt

[dense violet]

I just pop in and out, put a gap between entrances, if you keep going forward you just popped back in, lean right or left and you get out

I've never used the branches but my undrestanding is there's a button to exit?

[coarse nova]

but then i fall out and die to fall dmg

[dense violet]

why would you fall to your death?

[coarse nova]

because the hypertube would be going UP, and if i leave it while going UP, i fall DOWN

[dense violet]

put foundatiosn under where you're getting off? and walls?

[coarse nova]

easy thing for long travel on x and y axis

but z axis is difficult

[dense violet]

no it really isn't , theyv'e been used as elevators since they came out

[wise junco]

i don't know why you're fighting the solution we've given ya a couple times... just put entrances going up the tube so you keep accelerating

[coarse nova]

elevators are slow, ngl

idk man

[hushed frigate]

is it ethical to seal lizard doggos in a confined space because they keep getting lost

[wise junco]

yes

[storm zephyr]

literally just make a regular cannon and have it point straight up then use like an upside down ramp or something to make yourself stop at the right floor

[coarse nova]

whats a ramp

[storm zephyr]

son

[wise junco]

the bait is strong

[coarse nova]

srry english isnt my main

[cunning siren]

Elevator has music though 🤷

[coarse nova]

leave me alone

[coarse nova]

i cant hear it

wdym

but fr whats a ramp

[wise junco]

stairs but smooth

[coarse nova]

https://www.amazon.com/Wheelchair-FACHNUO-Slip-Resistant-24Lx31-3W-Threshold/dp/B09PYBP9YF

[wise junco]

yes

[dense violet]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Foundations ramps

[coarse nova]

im asumming upside down ramps so i slide to the side when launched out?

[wise junco]

correct

[coarse nova]

mmmm

i'lll try,
I like satisfactory, but i hate it at the same time

stuff like this takes so much times to find out

and in the end, im pretty sure, ill just get bored

[wise junco]

it's a game of many mysteries

[storm zephyr]

could also use a roof

[dense violet]

well the tiers are basically just a tutorial to get to a sand box game
if you don't like designing and problem solving things it may notbe for you

[coarse nova]

roof wouldnt make me slide to the side

[wise junco]

flat roof wouldn't, regular roof would

[coarse nova]

i do like designing and solving things, but satisfactory is more about grinding

[coarse nova]

what

regular roofs are flat

[wise junco]

a ramp and a roof have the same incline

[storm zephyr]

roofs are angled

[wise junco]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/wiki/Roofs

4m, 2m...

[storm zephyr]

could use basically anything with an incline actually

[coarse nova]

that username of yours is hurting my eyes

[worn oar]

Is there a way to build stacked conveyor belts faster?

I'm trying to bring back both plastic and rubber at the same time

[plucky bone]

Blueprints maybe

Never done stacked belts. I just use trains or trucks/

[wise junco]

Yeah, id make a little blueprint

[worn oar]

They don't connect to my belts

So it's hardly better than doing it manually

[plucky bone]

press R and use auto connect. Did you try that?

[worn oar]

Yeah it does absolutely nothing

[plucky bone]

O? Lemme mess around and see. maybe you need to build one with a BP then it'll work.

[wise junco]

Do you have actual belts in your blueprint or just the stackable conveyor supports?

[worn oar]

You mean I should create a section of belts between two sets of supports?

[wise junco]

Yes

[worn oar]

Ok I'll try that

[west jackal]

you have to have belts on the outside, cant have the endings be splitters/mergers/lifts afaik

[wise junco]

That will enable the auto connect to find belts to latch onto

[west jackal]

actualy lifts work i think

[plucky bone]

Yes, try making 2 belts on supports. Works for me with 2 belts and 2 stackable posts.

Just make sure they go the same way you want. I did em opposites 🙂

[wraith widget]

will the mod that adds a "curve mode" to building ever be canon

90 degrees are so overrated

[wise junco]

Is this for just pipes/belts or?

Never messed with any mods

[dense violet]

you can build curvy belts and pipes w/o mods

[wraith widget]

i mean for the concrete mostly, there is a mod that does it better than the devs could ever though so idk why im asking

[worn oar]

Thanks, it is a little fiddly and likes to randomly rotate itself, but it does work!

[wraith widget]

i hate the 90 lock, make zoop great again

have the devs said why they dont allow more angle customization? i assumed it was just engine liomits, i dont know game dev

[dense violet]

you can do 5 degree turns pretty easily

you can do finer turns too but takes more work

[wraith widget]

imagine if the snap function worked 100x better than it does now

i wish

i struggled so much to build stuff in satisfactory, never the machines, just always the walls, floors, etc, was always a pain

[dense violet]

what part of it/

[wraith widget]

have you ever tried the mod that allows for 3d zooping? it feels like "yeah this should be default"

[dense violet]

I have. barely does anything. and that has nothing to do with snap points

make some blueprintgs of foundations if you really want

[wraith widget]

yeah it doesnt have to do with the snap points but being able to drag a square in 2d is amazing

[dense violet]

blueprints

[wraith widget]

laying lines sucks

oh yeah bp is the answer u are right

[vocal sparrow]

Can i tame the big black monster?

[wraith widget]

im white

[vocal sparrow]

.

I'm talking about the monster in satisfactory

💔

[dense violet]

only lizard doggos

[wraith widget]

you mean in death stranding surely

kidding but do yall like death stranding? i loved it so much

[worn oar]

You are the monster in satisfactory, canonically

[ivory matrix]

Question, in the Experimental branch how do I disable the check for online services? I enjoy playing factory games in a place that doesn't have internet and I've been stopped from playing Satisfactory twice now, and the only workaround I have is starting my computer, loading the save I want then putting my computer in sleep and bringing it out there.

[dense violet]

you can just play w/o net connection

[ivory matrix]

disabling wifi prevents loading. I get an "Offline" error

let me get a screenshot

[dense violet]

you can still load games

[wraith widget]

https://youtu.be/yc8_dYPx4ao?si=ML5AB_RJ9mOXSVFi

[ivory matrix]

Nope

[wraith widget]

yes

[ivory matrix]

I have video evidence of that not working

[ivory matrix]

#satisfactory-experimental message

[coarse nova]

but how do i turn those ramps upside down?

[clever pier]

FICSIT is the monster, we don't really have a choice do we?

[worn oar]

ADA can't actually kill you, it's an empty threat.

[dense violet]

you don't have everything saved to cloud do you?

[west jackal]

anyone else have issues where they accidently break one critical splitter when they are deleting something else and then your whole factory breaks...

[worn oar]

And bringing your replacement down to the planet will take $ERROR: years

[clever pier]

how do we know she can't cut off the oxygen to our suit?

[coarse nova]

Anyone, how do I turn ramps upside down?

[worn oar]

She can't even stop you from killing a lizard doggo, what makes you think she powers the suit

[clever pier]

buy inverted ramps using coupons from the awesome shop

[coarse nova]

omg I HATE THAT SHOP

the points increasement is the main reason

[clever pier]

feed it sam acumulators

they get lots of points and aren't complicated to make

its only sam, copper, iron and coal

[worn oar]

I now have a 7.5 GW backup liquid biofuel plant :D

[bleak valley]

The animal parts don’t increase as much per ticket so they are the cheapest way

[coarse nova]

rip

[vocal sparrow]

Lil bro

[plucky bone]

I feed that thing everything. I just use it for when I have tickets as a bonus. If you look at it that way and not depend on it then you'll like it better. Think of it as a free surprise shop.

[vocal sparrow]

Can i tame the big fat black monster?

Idk his name

[dense violet]

as mentioned, you can only tame lizard doggos

[vocal sparrow]

Oh thx

[clever pier]

space ticks? those are more or less tame anyway

they don't do any harm just get in the way

[cyan leaf]

Between pipes and beam which are more needed?

[clever pier]

thats weird to ask

if you use mk 3 belts you need a lot of steel beams

[chrome bear]

how much fuel does the fuel generator consume per minute?

[clever pier]

I use mk 3 belts as the default if I don't need faster

40 m3 per minute

[cyan leaf]

Cause i got both molded alts appearing and idk which to choose 🤣😭

[clever pier]

oh I see

beams then

[cyan leaf]

Alr alr cause whichever is choose would cause me to rework my whole setup

[clever pier]

steel pipes are used in rotors but you can use alts to get rid of that need

plus theres an alt to make steel pipes from iron

[cyan leaf]

And like they are more abundant compared to beams horrible ratio

[topaz shale]

I keep forgetting how crazy efficient Heavy encased frame alt recipe is compared to the normal one.

[cyan leaf]

So true getting rid of screws from it like holy game changer

[clever pier]

steel screws

never worry about screws again with that alt

[cyan leaf]

Shush screw man

[topaz shale]

That and it does consume less iron overall so easier to scale a bit.

[dense violet]

depends what recipes you're using

[clever pier]

steel screws / cast screws make screws painless

[dense violet]

just get good. Screws are easy

[topaz shale]

We respect the screws.

[topaz shale]

I concur.

[cyan leaf]

Ik but u need to make sooooo many screws 😭 if it wasnt like nearly a thousand for a simply using 4 crafters then its finnee

[topaz shale]

Just gotta make sure that you don't have a recipe that needs like 1k screws a minute

[feral vector]

can I make my jetpack use liquid biofuel instead of solid biofuel? I got solid for my chainsaw hmm

[topaz shale]

Yup you can. Can even sloop all the crafters to make so so so much packaged liquid biofuel for jetpacks. I end up never really going for any other fuel recipe for jetpacks.

[karmic crow]

I swear I just saw a chicken run past me in the game

[dense violet]

steel screw

[cyan leaf]

What does the purple overclock thing do?

[feral vector]

I mean I have both in my inventory and it's using solid instead of liquid

[topaz shale]

There should be a little gear icon on your jetpack. Lets you select your preferred fuel there.

[feral vector]

oh whoops my bad ty

[topaz shale]

At the price of exponentially more power use, it lets your machines run faster. Good for if you need a ton of machines but don't want to place them all down.

[cyan leaf]

Phhh

[clever pier]

you mean the birds that stand with their mouth open trying to look like flowers?

[karmic crow]

No like a chicken chicken not the blue bird thing

[clever pier]

theres no chicken in the game, not even during april fools

[karmic crow]

Maybe I have been playing for too long

[clever pier]

although there is speculation that lizard doggo would taste like chicken

[karmic crow]

I bet the spiders would taste good

[west jackal]

are you talking about in the alient technology tree?

or purple slug research

[cyan leaf]

Yee the part where its spilt to research for the sloom power generator and the overlook thingie

[west jackal]

||production amplifier allows you to use sloops to double the output of a machine without increasing required input||

[cyan leaf]

So the input stays the same but u get double the output?

[west jackal]

was trying not to just say it, lol, but yes. any clocking, the output doubles input stays the same, there is limited ammount of sloops though so plan accordingly

i normally just sloop the final part of a factory, but my nuclear build will have some inner steps slooped as well (using almost 80 of the 106 on the map)

oh also. slooping requrires 4x the power of the machine

[cyan leaf]

😭 lol

[west jackal]

to be fair. if i didnt sloop it uses more than the entire worlds supply of SAM bauxite and coal

[plucky bone]

They are nice. Working through 5 small containers of biofuel to liquid with a refinery. No clue what I'm gonna use it for but at least I slooped it all and have enough for a long time.

[chrome bear]

anyone know why my fuel generator is not receiving fuel even when linked to a fuel line that is infact pumping fuel

[loud crag]

Could be a bug, are you on stable or experimental branch?

[shell quarry]

I’m still stuck with oil what do I do with the fuel like where does it go after being processed

[feral vector]

pipe junctions get weird, might have to rebuild a pipe that isn't connected properly? check the flow on the pipes

[feral vector]

typically you'd use fuel for fuel generators, no?

[dense violet]

burn it or package it

[loud crag]

if you have jetpack then package it and use it for your jetpack or do what xSJx jus said

[chrome bear]

151m³/min flow rate on the previous pipe and then in the generator it says no fuel

nevermind it fixed itself somehow

[loud crag]

Lol

[chrome bear]

it's just very slow

it's not receiving the fuel properly

[remote cloud]

sounds like fluids tbh

they be a bit wonky

[dense violet]

not if you know the basics

they are definitely wonky if you don't know what you're doing

[west jackal]

should package lbf to use for jetpack

[remote cloud]

correction, pipes are wonky and noone can tell me otherwise

[loud crag]

Makes me happy that the buggiest part of the game is now being mixed with the other buggiest part of the game and the sledgehammer of logistics to create the greatest buggy sledgehammer logistics addition

[dense violet]

have you considered joining your local conservative party? you got the chops for it

[chrome bear]

tell me what's wrong then because I have 150m³/m of fluids in a pipe connected to 1 fuel generator and its not receiving enough to constantly run.

[plucky bone]

It's being packaged. Maybe I'll use it instead of fuel.

[dense violet]

show some overhead images of your set up in #math-and-meta , P for photomode

[remote cloud]

if i go into politics the world is gonna end

[west jackal]

are you complaing about the liquid vehicles? you are just spewing random bs you saw online, vehicles in 1.2 are not buggy, and liquid is only n issue if you dont know the basics

[loud crag]

Please go into politics

[dense violet]

they are already killing it, fits you perfectly then

[loud crag]

Not complaining, praising. I love them.

They're the first fluid system that doesn't make me have an anyuerism trying to optimize

[remote cloud]

its a 50/50 either i wake up and choose peace, or i wake up and choose chaos

[dense violet]

Again you're not breaking off the path of my suggestion

[remote cloud]

however, i wouldnt have time to make more spaghetti

[regal tiger]

Does anyone know of any way to sort the dimensional depot? Are there any mods that can do it or something?

[remote cloud]

vanilla no idea, for mods you'd have to check the modding server

[regal tiger]

I will have a look there! Thanks

[west jackal]

wdym sort?

you can search you know?

(and pin items)

[feral vector]

I wish you could remove items from the list

[regal tiger]

I do know about searching and pinning, but i like the idea of them in some kind of order

[red sun]

Yeah i wish you could reorder them

Maybe in 1.3

[bitter crane]

brah is the ground supposed to let you fall through every 4 steps

[feral vector]

ok trains are pretty cool my world feels a bit more alive now

even though I did a cheesy ass sky bridge train track cause I was lazy 😛

[dense violet]

server?

[dense violet]

that makes Efficiency God cry

[bitter crane]

just put multiplayer options to steam friends incase my friend wants to play

[feral vector]

i was already like 3/4 done when you showed me some stuff with trains pathing through the terrain better

[dense violet]

that can happen to people who join you if you ahve a bad connection , but never heard of host having that issue

[dense violet]

if only I could have saved you earlier

[feral vector]

even still I'd probably just cheese my first one, I'm so sick of manually transporting plastic

I'll have to set up blueprints and stuff to make a nicer train line

don't want plastic production to stop while I'm screwing around trying to learn to make cool train tracks

[feral vector]

any tips on a simple blueprint to do first or what

[dense violet]

bp to accomplish what exctly?

[feral vector]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

the train honking when it leaves

chef's kiss

[feral vector]

for building train lines that aren't lame sky bridges lol

[dense violet]

mostly figure out a tower design you like, then build them on zooped foundations

[feral vector]

I wish train tracks had something like conveyor poles so I could just spam them and have them vary in height or something

[dense violet]

Stacked towers are great for hugging the ground and not having a huge footprint

[dense violet]

include converyor poloes in your tower bp

[feral vector]

I mean like the functionality of conveyor poles but they hold up train tracks not belts

[dense violet]

oh, thats what foundations are

[feral vector]

yeah but I'm lazy the way conveyor poles work is super braindead

I'm not very creative lol

I'm gonna have to go look at people's designs for train stuff, idk what I'd even want on a tower besides something flat for the train tracks to go on

[dense violet]

zoop foundations and rail towers and they work essentially like conveyor poles

[west jackal]

thats what BLUEPRINTS are for 🙂

[feral vector]

don't you wanna zoop foundations then put a blueprint on top?

that is a problem for future me I'm not messing with my sky bridge it works great

I love how bad I am at driving the trains, both times I've tried to come down a big hill I went flying off track. the AI does it nice and smooth

[plucky bone]

I like using blueprints for tracks cuz as far as it lets you place it is about as far as a track can reach. So I usually stand a little back from the end of the track and it always reaches.

Height doesn't matter I just hold it then adjust and make it look good.

[west jackal]

i dont zoop foundations then bp. i just bp. but i dont have floating tracks

[feral vector]

if you go over uneven terrain you'd want a variable amount of support under the tracks though?

[west jackal]

i change the height

or extend the support beam

[feral vector]

lol ok the AI isn't that smooth I'm pretty sure they cheat I just watched one pull into the station XD

[feral vector]

I think I need to look in the awesome shop lol

[wicked kite]

yo who wants to join me

[feral vector]

welp pillar supports and beam supports are nice to know about lol

[wicked kite]

i need some help

[cursive crane]

What do you need?

[wicked kite]

some help setting up a system for stage three it will take forever with just one

[feral vector]

I geniuinely don't know what I'm looking at in your pic in screenshots but it's cool

[kind hatch]

can someone help please 🥺
https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1489425853539684432

[cursive crane]

Answer the guy who asked you a question there.

[kind hatch]

idk what fsr is

[cursive crane]

Upscaling tech.

Tell him, its a help channel, they cant help you if you dont respond Lol

[wicked kite]

i sent him a message

[west jackal]

its my train track

well the underside of it

[wicked kite]

is anyone free for the next pry hour to help

[feral vector]

I know that but like... how XD

[west jackal]

wdym

[cursive crane]

Post in #1038092680493801533 with what exactly you need help with. People dont like gamehopping to help

[feral vector]

I don't even know what you would use to make something that looks like that. or even if it didn't look as cool, that would function like that heh

[west jackal]

very true kermit

[west jackal]

well, the crossbars are painted beams, the glowing pink is signs

most of it is small concrete pillars

[feral vector]

didn't even realize you could make shapes like that lol

[west jackal]

i did it in vanilla, its much easier with mods though

i sent my computer factory

[wicked kite]

i tried it wont let me post it

[smoky flame]

Is smart splitter a bit broken? I built this layout that sorts different alien remains into different constructors but it always fails to sort them and clogs up everytime

[west jackal]

no. smart splitters are perfect. it is absolutely a user issue

dont ever slander the almighty smart splitter 🙂

(asking for help is okay though 🙂 )

[plucky bone]

Check your belt speed. I had one letting through quickwire into the overflow cuz I had a MK 5 in and MK 4 belt out.

[west jackal]

if they gave more details i could help troubleshoot

[smoky flame]

Thanks, although all belt is mk1

[plucky bone]

Also if one belt out is full it'll stop the others.

Gotta have somewhere for it all to go.

Should have 2 smart splitters there. use one output for overflow back to the start like a loop. Should fix it.

[smoky flame]

I think I found the issue, I think it's because I set it to "Any" instead of "Any undefined"

[west jackal]

thatll do it

[plucky bone]

Ah. yes. Setting can be like that. Good luck.

[west jackal]

now remember this next time! 😄

[plucky bone]

Can't believe I am tearing down my plastic and rubber refinery. It needs an upgrade. So inefficient. Can't believe I built this. Like just do the math. Sad noob issues when I started I guess.

[west jackal]

🙂

sounds about right

[plucky bone]

🙌

Sad every emote but the dismantle gun. What kind of place this be that is missing a crucial emote for the most used item in the game. (I'm guessing but almost sure)

[minor cedar]

are there actually 0 crude oil nodes in the dune desert???

[wicked kite]

https://discord.com/channels/370472939054956546/1489490516407226419

[dense violet]

West and sw of it , none of hte starting zones have them directly in their spot

[young sentinel]

I just completed phase 3, and it's time to bulk up my power grid to prepare for late game.
my nearest sulfur and coal deposits are 1.2k-ish away from my closest crude oil wells.
what do you all do for transporting sulfur or compacted coal across distances, over mountains and such?

A: set up a train network?
B: very long conveyer lines?

[cursive crane]

Train for that.

[dense violet]

simpler to just make some diluted fuel. Can easily finish 5 with it

[cursive crane]

For sure

But also, its much easier to build near oil and conveyor/logistic in stuff that needs conveyors than move liquids.

But also that^

[young sentinel]

i'll look into it

[west jackal]

first time in over 1k hrs to hit t9 😄

[feral vector]

I wonder if I'll get restartitis or actually finish this cursed first playthrough

[dense violet]

if blenders aren't convenient for you right now you can go Oil > Heavy oil residue > diluted packaged fuel
just make a BP of a packager, refinery and unpackager in a loop

[feral vector]

depends on RNG too, both diluted fuels are alt recipes

[warm finch]

HUGE DEAL!!!! props to this guy!

[young sentinel]

yea i havent found the diluted recipe yet

[west jackal]

woooo

[dense violet]

it's part of the very efficient oil processing steps

[young sentinel]

is it more efficient than turbofuel?

[warm finch]

LFG!!!!!!!

[rigid glen]

Have they hinted at an 1.2 release date at all?

Good to see my conversation killing skills are still sharp lol

[abstract heron]

check #satisfactory-experimental for EXP or do u mean stable?

[cursive crane]

If you mean stable, no.

[rigid glen]

Yes, I know it's early yet, Im behind on some of the press releases etc

[abstract heron]

i say might be before summer but who knoows

[rigid glen]

TY, im not surprised

[cursive crane]

Way its going, my very wild educated guess would be probably june/july, may if its going really well

[feral vector]

that circle building in screenshots is pretty nuts too

[rigid glen]

makes sense. I'm half excited half dreading a new play with the randomizers, but I know it will be fun too

[west jackal]

Thank you 🙂

[late pumice]

hello everyone good morning

[rigid glen]

o/

[ivory matrix]

Does the chainsaw take better fuel, ever?

[dense violet]

no

[ivory matrix]

crap

I refined most of my biomatter into liquid fuel

[dense violet]

why? you barely need it. What would better fuel even do?

[ivory matrix]

faster cutting, bigger AoE

[dense violet]

eh just squish a few more plants, you hardly ever use the chain saw anyway

[dense violet]

bombs
and ... bigger aoe does not make any sense xD

[ivory matrix]

I'm cutting apart the stuipid pink forest

mostly to make clearer roads

[dense violet]

most of the red forest is very navigable already.

barely need to clear anything

make this 2 foundations wide and still veyr easy #design-and-architecture message

[worn oar]

It's crazy how many machines you need for heavy modular frames, wtf man

Is the point to make you overclock things or what

[ivory matrix]

or build mega complexes, or start using somersloops, or begin researching alternate recipes

literally everything the game incentivizes you to do

[worn oar]

All my sloops are accounted for in space part building machines already lol

[plucky bone]

Can be, just build more than one to make more. Look fo alt recipes. They rule.

[dense violet]

here , reduced machine count https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/production?share=45VTIWea7fYwYDfSQix7

OC them and it's barely any

[round crow]

anyone know if you are able to start a game in experimental and then move it to live later?

[worn oar]

Thanks, do you know if there's a way to overclock or sloop machines on the site instead of calculating manually?

[dense violet]

as long as later is 1.2

[dense violet]

the number of machines is the clocking, 3.2 machines is 320% , just sloop the end point if you really want. But duping is fairly silly

[worn oar]

Those are modular frames not heavy modular frames

But yeah I see it now

[dense violet]

you're looking at the wrong tab, go to the right

[normal orbit]

of course you can

[dense violet]

You might be able to reduce machine count further with Steel Screw, Bolted Plate and Bolted Frame

[worn oar]

Cheers

[dense violet]

yeah reduces building count by 6 overall.. not huge but not nothing

oh waith, no, you need more foundries. so very similar

[west jackal]

ryzor, if youre complaing about hmf, youre in a world of hurt when you get to the next tiers 🙂

[storm zephyr]

ive NEVER seen this thing in my life bro huh #screenshots message

steve's evil insectoid cousin

[worn oar]

I just finished automating the phase 3 parts after 65 hours 🙏🏻

[loud crag]

If they ever release a new map it should be a DLC to keep the studio funded for another decade and a half

[storm zephyr]

super secret mirror world accessed by collecting x amount of mercer spheres and then crafting it

and theres aliens and shi in it

like the mercer sphere guys

[loud crag]

Super secret mirror world accessed the way you said but it lowkey sends you to factorio

[storm zephyr]

satisfactorio collab...

[worn oar]

If you refuse to build upwards this is basically Factorio

[storm zephyr]

they should make satisfactory 2 where its the exact same thing except you can buy tickets with real life money

[loud crag]

If you only build on the ground it’s also sorta factorio

[loud crag]

I wouldn’t mind a subscription for non-in game stuff

Like maybe if they did they’re own dedicated server hosting

I jus want them to be funded

[supple canopy]

pfp does NOT check out

[dense violet]

factorio and sf are VERY dif games at their cores

[loud crag]

Listen, I am socialist but to support a company that makes genuinely good updates to an already amazing product that you only have to buy once, I’m not opposed to finding a way to fund them. It’s like paying monthly to a charity or artists patreon page.

[supple canopy]

all good bro I was jesting, don't let anyone make you justify your opinions

[loud crag]

Nah it’s chill

I like talking anyways

Bored af rn

[supple canopy]

you could play satisfactory 🤔

[loud crag]

I could but I’m at a hotel and I don’t wanna drive 5 hours to get home only to play for 20 mins

[normal orbit]

ah suffering hotel death. relatable

[west jackal]

sapphic, i finally finished phase 4 for the first time in 1k hours 😄

[smoky flame]

I have 3 water extractors feeding 4 blenders (all at 90% underclock), through a single mk2 pipe via manifold, is this a bad design? The last machine is never getting enough water

[normal orbit]

congratulations

[warm finch]

makes for great jetpack fuel for exploration. you can go SOOOO FARRRR with it

[warm finch]

if it doesn't math out, then yes it's a bad design. check your math

[smoky flame]

The math is good, but I don't know why the last machine is not getting enough water

[warm finch]

did you let the pipes and everything fill up first before starting production?

[smoky flame]

Yes

[void cliff]

Probably have an accidental spool of mk1 pipe somewhere

[brittle dune]

If you're running full throughput pipes that could be a problem

[smoky flame]

The problem I have diagnosed is the mk2 pipe that is going into the 4 blenders can have a flow rate that flunctuate rapidly between 200m3/m to 400m3/m

[brittle dune]

Yeah they just do that

That's fine

It only matters that machines on both ends are all running at 100%

[warm finch]

make sure all of the pipe sections are fu ll

how are you feeding the blenders? from below? did you check your headlift?

[smoky flame]

Yes, I used a water tower

[brittle dune]

I assume the machines in the manifold are full (except the last 2 cuz that's how that goes)

[smoky flame]

The machine takes 90m3/m water, but the input pipe gives less than that

[brittle dune]

Look pipe flow rates are not the most useful thing to look at

That shit fluctuates more than a swimming pool in a plane

Because of how fluid movement works in this game

[green fiber]

Pipe throughput is only useful if you look at the average over time

Never take the reading from a pipe as final fact

[bleak mica]

Hey guys, just recently picked up the game, got to the oil stage, found oil deposits in the far far islands, built the extractors and plastic and whatnot and now I'm kinda lost, am I supposed to figure out logistics from there to other resource? Like delievering packaged fuel/oil/plastics/etc via trucks/trains? Kinda overwhelmed

[supple canopy]

did so too last week after 2.3 hours lol

[feral vector]

oil is best used nearby, transporting fluids is rough. getting a train going is probably worth it

[supple canopy]

not necessarily. What is something you you have access too and didn't automate yet

[bleak mica]

well for ex circuit boards take copper sheets + plastic and there's no copper vein nearby

[feral vector]

I'm still new so take any of my advice with a grain of salt lol. I still do all of my production in a big factory in the starter area, I just set up hyper tubes and manually brought plastic and rubber back to my main base, made my first train after completing phase 3 and I should have done one sooner

[smoky flame]

I started in grass fields and I built railway from the islands down to grass fields, I imagine most players did the same

[bleak mica]

damn

how long did that take you

[feral vector]

your starter factory should be near coal/copper/limestone/iron. grass fields start?

[smoky flame]

If you don't care about detailing, less than 30 minutes, I imagine

[bleak mica]

huh

[feral vector]

there are two pure coal nodes nearby and tons of the other stuff

[shy furnace]

I bought this game 4 days ago, already have 60 hours on it, and i've legit been dreaming about factory building, is this normal?

[feral vector]

lol my first train took me like 4 hours but I made a ridiculous sky bridge

[supple canopy]

It's not that long trust me. For circuit boards you have the correct mindset: either haul the plastic to some copper, or the copper to your plastic. You could haul both at some place else if you want to

[feral vector]

yeah it'll do that

[supple canopy]

yes you're deep in it it's a normal phase, doesn't get better lol

[bleak mica]

same, I'm literally neglecting work this past week

[bleak mica]

Hm, well thanks coz I thought I could be missing something

[feral vector]

I think even if I just made a real bumpy rail track on the ground it still would have taken a while lol, I certainly found it harder than getting a hypertube over to where my oil was

[bleak mica]

I just zipline

[feral vector]

nah you're understanding what the game is presenting to you... they put oil far away from where typical starter bases are to get you thinking about logistics

[bleak mica]

Otherwise setting up hypertubes would take me literal hours coz I always mess up with alignment

[feral vector]

try a hypertube with like ten entrances, I go from grass fields to the oil in like ten seconds?

[bleak mica]

wdym 10 entrances

[feral vector]

alignment doesn't matter, my hypertube looks stupid af and is a bumpy ride but it's so fast

[supple canopy]

distances will get smaller and smaller the more you unlock logisitcs solution and you know the map better. I almost never use the most nearby nodes for production, I find the ones that suits me more (better purity, cooler places to build a train station etc...)

[feral vector]

I get back to my starter base like twice as fast as the train can

[bleak mica]

why would you use more than 2 entrances

[feral vector]

build hyper tube supports every second snap point, connect them with a tube, then put an entrance at the front of each mini tube

[bleak mica]

huh

[feral vector]

the movement speed boost stacks, you can launch yourself across the map lol

[bleak mica]

ohhhh

so like a collider

[feral vector]

I legit go like twice as fast as my train at least it's insane

yeah like a railgun or something

it's awesome lol

[bleak mica]

dam

oh another thing i was wondering

[feral vector]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMIfjfCCgb0