satisfactory

[west jackal]

No?

GW is the natural extension of the SI unit MW

[supple canopy]

exactly why I commited to a full nuclear production. I wanna sloop those bad boys

[lean fossil]

no no I mean like I've never got that ingame

[west jackal]

I'm going to do 2TW power grid

But I want mk6 belts first

[lean fossil]

wait how the hell am i gonna rotate this???

[real shale]

okay i had to do 1% effort on the math but i can mkae 285 heatsinks/min with the nodes ive got

[lean fossil]

yo goat guy

[ornate saffron]

build three accelerators for every one and clock the third to 50%

[west jackal]

Tf did you just call me

[lean fossil]

Greatest of all time guy.

[west jackal]

Not if I'm slooping though! Need to conserve sloops, means 250% lol

[supple canopy]

I'm not THAT full commited I'm going to process half of the uranium, but implementing alien power matrices production I'll get about 1TW

[west jackal]

Whatcha need

[lean fossil]

how am i gonna go left or right...

i'm buildin usin blueprints

[west jackal]

More details pls

[lean fossil]

trains

[west jackal]

Well duh

[lean fossil]

what detials exactly

[ornate saffron]

derp you are right

[west jackal]

The wiki says 2 @50% save around 33% pwr overall

May need to keep that in mind during nuclear

I may need to build the 600GW rf before the nuclear plant 🫣

Beefy, (love that my tablet autocorrect that now) do you know if drones can move 4 stacks/min, or do I need to split it to two drones

[west jackal]

I mean.. i need to know exactly what your asking, if you just mean turn it, you can rotate blueprints and then nudge into place, you'll want to hook the tracks by hand

[lean fossil]

it'll lose the foundation though wouldnt it?...

[pearl owl]

whats heavy oil residue used for?

[civic cradle]

should I automate any of the phase 4 parts?

[ornate saffron]

drones hold 9 stacks so distance is your bottleneck

[civic cradle]

you can take that and make fuel and put it into a fuel gen to make some power

[pearl owl]

heavy oil residue makes residual fuel is that still usable for fuel?

[real shale]

142.5 cooling systems/min...yummy

[civic cradle]

yes

[lean fossil]

residue is jsut additional output you can use as input to get almost the same thing usually i think

[pearl owl]

alrighty thanks

[ornate saffron]

all you want to know about drones

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/mbqex4/the_ultimate_drone_guide/

@west jackal there is a formula to figure out through put and such

[west jackal]

Oh perfect, thank you

[west jackal]

Depends how you do it, typically I do turns/ intersections by hand

[west jackal]

Some of that is outdated, but still has useful info!

[lean fossil]

shit i derailed my train manually do i have to remove it

nevermind gfigured that outttt

[ornate saffron]

i kinda just cheat it. when you setup a drone route it tells you the travel time (i think, its been a while) then i just rough guess the throughout

[ornate saffron]

true but lots of good info still like the plumbing manual

[west jackal]

Yea. I need to bring nitrogen from the far north nodes to near the red forest area

[ornate saffron]

thats a train Job i would think

[west jackal]

And fuel from the far south west oil well/nodes.

These are the only nodes remaining

[west jackal]

I would too, but was trying to avoid the trains for the fuel. The nitrogen is easy, already have tracks nearby enough

The fuel i think it should be able to do the 400 packaged a minute

Im scared to use trains for liquids bc I dont understand the buffers

[ornate saffron]

outside of biome is usually my benchmark for train. in this case you are going across a eintire biome

[solar solstice]

you giving me homework in a video game?

[ornate saffron]

you can still package it like you would for the drones

this is a great option for number focused people

[safe heron]

What is the Stack Max for Portable Miners?

[mystic oriole]

50 I think

[true mulch]

!wikisearch portable+miner

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=portable+miner

[ornate saffron]

100 for ore

[safe heron]

Nah I just want a stack in my cloud for later.

[fluid sapphire]

50

[ornate saffron]

misread question. English is hard lol

[fluid sapphire]

easier to get the automated miner recipe and not worry about it

[west jackal]

I would want to package but the fluid trains look cool so I think id try to figure out buffers

[ornate saffron]

Mcgallonbackintheflow did some gas buffering testing early this year. ill see if i can find the posts

[ornate saffron]

#math-and-meta message

[wraith prism]

hello im new here

[pseudo verge]

hello

[ornate saffron]

At first glance i thought your name was polish lol

[wraith prism]

it is im from poland

lol

[ornate saffron]

well how bout that. i know to many polish people i thinks

[wraith prism]

nice

i Dowland this game like 5 days ago and i already lose my mind when it comes to pipe system

[ornate saffron]

im actually choking on laughter atm

[ornate saffron]

well you are in the right place for that

[feral vector]

I'm trying to set up my first big production floor, yall think it's better to just split the incoming 480 belt into 16 smelters and then distribute the ores, or belt the iron to a chunk of smelters for each production line

[ornate saffron]

search #1038092680493801533 i guarentee there is many posts about how to setup and fix coal power

[feral vector]

I guess if input and output are the same numbers it doesn't really matter? trying to avoid crazy belt spaghetti like I have on the first floor of this beginner factory lol

[ornate saffron]

Which ever method make ways for you to trace what you did easier. The second option does this by segregating the floor into section. you can also use signs and such

[feral vector]

hmm good point if the smelters are part of each production chain I can keep things more separate

it's not like building a few extra smelters will matter that much

[lean fossil]

note to self
dont tab out when you're in a hyper hyper tube hypering away in a hyper speed

[wraith prism]

i use 4 water pumps going from a hill to a 8 coal generators and tbh it baerly works

[ornate saffron]

the Key is to make trouble shooting easier for yourself. Space is our greatest resource we have 2km air space and 42km2

[wraith prism]

?

[ornate saffron]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[wraith prism]

damn...

[fluid sapphire]

time to learn some piping

[ornate saffron]

mark 1 pipes can only move 300 units of fluid a minute

[reef basin]

don't move fluids up the hill, build gens where water is

[wraith prism]

i move it down the hill

[reef basin]

then you don't need pumps

[wraith prism]

i mean extractors

idk im polish

[reef basin]

ah, fair

better to call things their names tho. Pump is a thing in SF as well

[wraith prism]

im not the best in english and i have game in polish sorry

i can show you how my masterpiece works on channel where i can put ss

[ornate saffron]

its no bother, we will try and clarify to make sure we are speaking about the same thing

[wraith prism]

its okay I can adapt

[lean fossil]

mgs reference in satisfactory.

[ornate saffron]

METAL GEAR!!

[wraith prism]

memes.

[lean fossil]

omfg truck stations are acc hot.

GNG I DIDNT HAVE TO MAKE A MESS OF POWER LINES

how do i uh make my train load up (auto drive)

[lean fossil]

THE DNA OF THE SOUL

[ornate saffron]

make usre the freight stations are set to load/unload depending on need it is either/or

[next ivy]

place a station, connect a wagon depot thingy to it
do the same again somewhere else and set the depot there to unload
place rail inbetween the 2
place a loco, connect a wagon to it
adjust the trains schedule to go to both stations

[clear ivy]

i was gonna ask this in lfg but i don't think its that big of a deal, anyone willing to let me tour there world

[cedar token]

does anyone have a graph of an optimal iron setup? like including rotors, smartplates, reinforced plates

like phase 2-ish

[reef basin]

no, as "optimal" can mean anything

[cedar token]

fast?

[reef basin]

that's just "build more"

[cedar token]

yeah but how much constructors go into this assembler, how many smelters into each constructor etc

[reef basin]

there are tools that can do that for you

but you still need to pick recipes and goals

[clear ivy]

you should just use satisfactory modeler

it helps alot

[cedar token]

thanks

[clear ivy]

an easy way to get the correct amount of each thing is to underclock to the nearest whole number

[steel flare]

weaklings i just do math in my head for it

takes me awhile though im slow sometimes 😂

[fluid sapphire]

i just try numbers until i get whole numbers

[clear ivy]

just use the modeler

[coarse shadow]

when will 1.2 officially release?

[clear ivy]

some times it gets into the decimals and i don't really feel like doing that for every project, especially if you want a factory with 1 to 1 connections

[cedar token]

ive got the app, what does the number below the image of the machine represent

cant send screenshots here so

[lean fossil]

h0ow do i make it load up 3 of its cargo...

it has 3 freight things but only loads up one

[steel flare]

yeah i just did a 5 engine pm thing for phase 3 completion all from head math 💀 didn’t know about satisfactory modeler till now

[reef basin]

eh, I'd recommend https://www.satisfactorytools.com/1.0/ more

[lean fossil]

the train fucking killed me?

[reef basin]

modeller is a lot of manual work

[next ivy]

if you have 3 wagons you also need 3 freight depot thingys

[cedar token]

damn i see you made it

[lean fossil]

OOOHOEHOEHO

[jagged nymph]

of course you would reccomend that 🙄
-# /j

[next ivy]

or 3 different stations each with 1 depot thingy but with different spacing

[cedar token]

why doesnt it include miner power and construction cost?

[jagged nymph]

because it doesnt care how you build it

so it doesnt know hwo many machines/miners/what nodes youll use

because thats for you to decide

[cedar token]

yeah fair

but it tells you how many machines to use

[reef basin]

miner power: because tool cannot know which nodes you use
construction cost: is included (just not for miners)

[cedar token]

just not miners

[jagged nymph]

so like if it says 25x constructors you could do 25 constructors at 100 percent or 10 constructors at 250 percent or 2500 constructors at 1 percent

the clock speeds just have to add up to the number it says

[red dew]

is the particle accelerators power supposed to reset after making pasta?

[jagged nymph]

it fluctuates

[red dew]

but like

its going over 2,5k

[jagged nymph]

mhm

[red dew]

pasta says 1k to 1.5k

[jagged nymph]

is it overclocked

[lean fossil]

what should i do with polyster residue...

[red dew]

nope

[jagged nymph]

polymer resin??

[red dew]

can turn it into plastic and put it in a sink

[lean fossil]

its enough to make a mini factory.

[lean fossil]

yes resin

[jagged nymph]

rubber and plastic

[lean fossil]

should I make a fabric rubber and plastic mini factory

[jagged nymph]

shore

[fluid sapphire]

you could use it to make a personal supply of plastic and rubber and free up your main rubber-plastic for other stuff

[lean fossil]

sure ic

[fluid sapphire]

thats what i do with my resin

[jagged nymph]

thats what also i do

[lean fossil]

oke

3 hundred resin for each.

[worldly bone]

is there a way/mod to get better texture for the game?

[lean fossil]

hopefully this shit makes good power or im killin myself

if i overclock it ill only use 8...

I can scrap my entire coal gen...

and get them moolah....

apparently game thinks im walking on water.

SHOUDL i use an industrial fuel buffer so that the train can still unload or NOOOO

[ornate saffron]

Sometimes game doesn't think there is water. Or my favorite in caves is when it doesn't render the water and you are floundering while spiders attack

[lean fossil]

ic

[hasty mango]

can blueprints be extracted as files to share?

[ornate saffron]

On pc yes

[hasty mango]

is there a channel?

[lean fossil]

yes?

[jagged nymph]

yes you need a buffer on fluid trains

[lean fossil]

the ONLY time you need buffers?

[jagged nymph]

yeah pretty much

[lean fossil]

and holy shit my pipe is slow

also the place looks hot with the fluid buffer idk why

[fluid sapphire]

not on this server

[lean fossil]

got a question though how am i gonna distribute 3 industrial buffers to 10 refineries.

I hate pipes so Ion really understand em

[spare prism]

how much water is 8 gens need?

[fluid sapphire]

!wikisearch cg

[raven axle]

https://satisfactory.wiki.gg/index.php?search=cg

[fluid sapphire]

360 water for 8 coal generators

[lean fossil]

yo

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message do i merge the pipes together and put em in 10 machines or wha

[fluid sapphire]

idk, whats the total supply

no idea about how your system is set up

[clear ivy]

whats the mk1 transfer rate again?

[jagged nymph]

game tells you

[fluid sapphire]

300

[clear ivy]

jeez i just wasn't in the game

[fluid sapphire]

how much are you loading into each of them on the supplying side

[clear ivy]

well then have two main pipelines

[lean fossil]

60 if I'm making it too efficient

[lean fossil]

wait what

like how much am i loading the machines or the buffers?

[fluid sapphire]

same

[clear ivy]

merge 2 of them and leave the 3rd untouched im pretty sure

or instead of that make 4 water extractors

and underclock them

that way you can have two pipelines

[lean fossil]

wdym same...?...

[fluid sapphire]

well, the buffers, on the side you load your trains

[lean fossil]

i told ya 600

the transfer rate IS 300 though.

[clear ivy]

are you using train liquid buffers, sorry i need context

train liquid carriers

[lean fossil]

I'm using indistrial liquid buffers

[lean fossil]

yes that's how I"m suppling the buffers

the train unloads into em

[fluid sapphire]

are they loaded equally? is the 600 divided between the 3 equally, in some other fashion, or do they each get 600?

[clear ivy]

whats your supply and demand?

or is it just storage

marwy

[spare prism]

some reason i though 300 was enough

[fluid sapphire]

its not, run the numbers

[clear ivy]

4 water extractors underclocked to 75% should do the trick

[fluid sapphire]

3 at 100% do the trick

[spare prism]

lol

[clear ivy]

well it fits nicer

[fluid sapphire]

its already a perfect 3:8 ratio

[clear ivy]

2 extractors to 1 coal generator

[lean fossil]

they each get 600

[lean fossil]

demand is....600...supply...is 600...

[lean fossil]

first buffer has 600
2nd 600
3rd 600

[frosty sedge]

How important is copper cause I could use 2k copper ore for wire and sheets or should I save 1k for other stuff

[clear ivy]

does distance affect demand?

[fluid sapphire]

so hook up enough machines to each to consume that much?

why 10 in particular

[lean fossil]

because...i calculated it.

[fluid sapphire]

no

[clear ivy]

because if you supply a train, send it to the depot, come back, then refill, by the time the train gets there wouldn't it be empty?

[fluid sapphire]

i am assuming thats accounted for

[clear ivy]

what if it isn't

[lean fossil]

the....the supply is like 200m away each.

By the time the train comes back each time it should have about 600m at each fluid storage train thing

which it would carry back

600 x 3 would refill all the buffers

[storm zephyr]

mk3 conveyors lowkey cheaper than mk2

[lean fossil]

on god oh my god

[real salmon]

5 to 6 honestly

[storm zephyr]

im making like 500 steel beams /minute but only like 30 reinforced plates 😭

[real salmon]

aluminum is just annoying compared to ficsit trigons and time crystals

[lean fossil]

why are you WHITE

[normal orbit]

kinda racist to ask that :p

[lean fossil]

I'm white.

[real salmon]

holy response time

[next ivy]

why are you black

[spare prism]

lol

[next ivy]

there we go, solved racism

[real salmon]

unironically that statement itself is racist

[lean fossil]

Why do you exist.

Is that racist?...

if theoritcally I hate all of mankind.

[real salmon]

in a certain context yeah

[lean fossil]

Including myself is that really racist?

[cyan ruin]

Is it possible to play with mods with a friend that play on steam while im playing on epic game ?

[normal orbit]

if you use same mods, dont see why not

[real salmon]

no, but you're considered a nihilist iirc

[hearty flame]

im now on a possible pc "killing" task
check #screenshots...

[storm zephyr]

rip embed perms

[cyan ruin]

yes we use sames mods

[ornate saffron]

The wiki has a distance throughput formula if you want to get deep into the math.

[lean fossil]

What if I just hate...earth.

earth itself nobody on it

[fluid sapphire]

well, you could try to hook up 3 machines to each buffer and pluck the end of each of those lines and hook up the final machine

but pipes at 600 can be finicky with stuff like that, good luck lol

[storm zephyr]

now that i have mk3 conveyors i might as well just make everything mk3 cause holy shit these are cheap

[spare prism]

who was gunna tell me the elevator is a lot of electricity

[storm zephyr]

are monorail trains good for moving a bunch of resources from place to place or nah

[minor vale]

that is kind of their exact purpose so yea.

[minor vale]

Long range delivery of large ammounts of resources.

[minor vale]

if you set up your rail line smartly and learn how to do signalling you can even potentially save time and resources by re-using sections of rail for multiple trains via simple rail networks that go through places you tend to use a lot.

[storm zephyr]

FUCK versatile framework

[whole citrus]

Have they announced the date of 1.2's release on the main branch?

[dusky spear]

heya ^^
this might be a very specific thing but is there a way to change the pitch of the sound when you open your inventory ?
its rly hurting my ears TwT

[storm zephyr]

zipline + power tower = tuff

when do i get the 3-input crafter thing or whatever its called

[sharp viper]

Make nighttime longer

[minor vale]

shortly after oil

[sharp viper]

Its only like 3 minutes out of an hour long day

[last bluff]

lowkey just started like saturday i gotta rebuildm y thing its all spaghetti rn

[minor vale]

you could do that
or you could just belt all your products to storage bin and build an ew factory buildng new stuff elsewhere for a lot less work.

[last bluff]

i like it looking nice though😔

[empty spoke]

do truck stations have the same problem like train stations that you cant output while depositing?

[last bluff]

even if it takes more time

[minor vale]

no they do not actually.
They will be continuing to take in and output items while trucks are loading/unloading.

[empty spoke]

so adding more trucks couldnt give me a disadvantage at all

except traffic obv

[minor vale]

Fuel costs but gennerally speaking no.
Though there is the issue of, you'll probably want to use multiple truck stations so that you don't get 3 trucks trying to unload at the same time, the first one fully unloading and then truck 2 and 3 does nothing but put like, 1 stack of items in and then your output stalls.

[empty spoke]

that also means that i can get the full 1200 liquid out of a truck station right? not like train stations where ur output is hardly limited

cuz for some reason i only get 800 at the moment

[storm zephyr]

is there like a plane or helicopter or something

[minor vale]

I've honestly not used the liquid truck station yet.
I don't know if it has any jang or limitations.

[snow rune]

THEY NEED TO ADD AN "UPDATE ALL CONVEYORS" BUTTON TO THE HAB!!! AFTER PUTTING IN THE NEEDED RESOURCES IT WILL UPDATE ALL CONVEYORS WITH THE NEWEST MARK (IT TAKES TOO LONG TO DO IT AND I MISS SOME OF THEM WITH MY FACTORY LAYOUT

[empty spoke]

well actually it will be still limited since the truck station gets fed by a train station..

[minor vale]

Much later down the line. you need aluminum and some other stuff first.

[storm zephyr]

is there any easier way to make modular frames

im using steeled frames

[minor vale]

have you tried searching for a ton of crash sites and scanning a ton of hard drives for alt recipies?

[storm zephyr]

but i still am not getting nearly enough

[storm zephyr]

i dontw anna make 100 crystal oscillators by hand to get the hard drive scanner 😭

[minor vale]

what exactly do you need
Regular modular frames or heavy modular?

[storm zephyr]

regular modular frames for versatile frameworks

[hasty mango]

you dont even need in some factories that (splitters math) and also not needing this bunch text

[reef basin]

Why would you need to upgrade exising belts? They are enough for what they are doing

[minor vale]

Right well, steeled frames is a great start for sure. Very good alt.
if your goal is to make production easier then you might want to look for or use the Sittched Iron plate recipe alt for your reinforced iron plates.
saves a bit of Iron and has less steps since you don't deal with screws there.

[snow rune]

THE FACTORY MUST OPTIMIZE

[reef basin]

It's already optimal tho

[snow rune]

I CANNOT TAKE IT UNOPTIMIZED

[hasty mango]

already

[reef basin]

Unless you built it wrong in the first place

[snow rune]

IT HAS OLD CONVEYORS

[reef basin]

Please calm down with the caps

And old conveyors are as optimal as new ones

[snow rune]

they are slower. left capslock on and cannot turn it off

[unkempt blade]

You should build a box around it so you can't see it. It makes it easier to ignore

[reef basin]

If you need to move 60/min, any conveyor is optimal

[minor vale]

since you're already producing steel beams to make Versatile frameworks, you could also find and use the Steel screw alt, which turns steel beams to screws at a very favorable ratio
And then you can combine that with the bolted frame alt to make your Modular frame production a lot faster.

[hasty mango]

bro what are you feeding 100 smellters with the same conveyor?

smelters*

[storm zephyr]

I have neither of those alts

[reef basin]

But when you're building a factory, you are building it for current belt speed, so speeding it up does nothing

[storm zephyr]

do i just bite the bullet and make the oscillators

[snow rune]

2 smelters

[unkempt blade]

The trick is to underclock everything so it's more power efficient. It's just a better build strategy

[hasty mango]

and whats the max mk you got

mk2? mk3?

[snow rune]

just got mk5

[hasty mango]

and what are the smelters using

[reef basin]

Yeah, that can probably run on mk1 just fine

[snow rune]

I think ~400

idk

[reef basin]

Unless clocked

[snow rune]

3 power shards in each. all of mine use power shards

[minor vale]

There is such a thing as future proofing.
On an old save I built up all my mining nodes up to be ready to use their maximium overlocked MK3 output, just upgrading the belts as I went along and updating the signs I put on them accordingly.

[storm zephyr]

what is bro smelting 😭

[hasty mango]

what th hell u smelting

[snow rune]

iron

[reef basin]

That sounds like a pain

[minor vale]

it actually can save you a lot of time.

no rebuilding, no looking for more nodes now thaty ou have better tech
just upgrade belts

[deft sluice]

Alright...just 14 more hours until i'm done making smart plates for phase 2 lol

[snow rune]

also soomerslops for any machine that can take them

[reef basin]

Don't think it saves time when you're wasting it by prebuilding

[unkempt blade]

that's just enough time to build a really awesome factory cart skatepark!

[storm zephyr]

at my current rate making versatile frameworks is gonna take me 13 days

[reef basin]

Independency does the same AND you don't have to futureproof

[deft sluice]

That sounds fun, but is it contractually mandated fun fun fun?

[hasty mango]

any mod to make railways extend inf when building

[unkempt blade]

it's basically the best thing you can do with your time in this game

[deft sluice]

Yeah i'm still working on my basic components but versatile frameworks is next, gotta make 5k

[snow rune]

I use I think like 100 or so machines

[minor vale]

even if a mod like that exists it would potentially be very buggy.

just use blueprints and deal with the smaller segments.

[storm zephyr]

whats the point of blueprints i dont understand

[deft sluice]

my randomized seed has given me like 0 caterium withn like 2km of the spawn point so

[snow rune]

to build

[hasty mango]

#screenshots message this

[unkempt blade]

my favorite stage of independency is when I build one huge factory to make all the things I unlocked in phase 1 and 2

[storm zephyr]

should i have multiple factories making stuff

[minor vale]

blueprints allowed me to do this without going insane.
#design-and-architecture message

[storm zephyr]

well thats cool but i dont have trains yet

[snow rune]

yes it's optimized. but keep track of everything in them so you can optimize them at anytime

[storm zephyr]

so do i not nede them?

[storm zephyr]

should i wait till i can get trains so i can have a huge distribution center or something

[minor vale]

basically though the purpose of blueprints is you get to place down entire pre-fabircated structures and setups, thaty ou intend to use incredibly frequently to save yourself time and sanity.

[snow rune]

trains are overrated. just use a belt to move them constantly

I HATE trains cuz they take time to transport, it's not a constant flow

[storm zephyr]

but long belts are SOOOO annoying to set up

[snow rune]

trains are 1000 times worse

[storm zephyr]

i just unlocked blueprints how do i use them

[minor vale]

also @storm zephyr

do yourself a favor

...if you make blueprints for long range railways
don't make it a combination railway Vehicle road
it's not worth it.
you won't use the roads it'll just be the trains.

And that's coming from some one who Loves vehicles, even in 1.1

[snow rune]

put the build inside of the blueprint frame (in special category if you haven't built it yet) and then use the terminal in the frame

[minor vale]

place down the building
place down buildings and or whatever inside them.
Go to the terminal
save the blueprint
you can then go place that blueprint any where you desire.

[storm zephyr]

I see

so should i just like

[minor vale]

#design-and-architecture message
this is an example of a collection of blueprints i made for my old railway/road project placed down on the ground side by side.

[storm zephyr]

make a simple mini factory design thing and then copy and paste it on a bunch of deposits i find

[minor vale]

think of it less like a mini factory and more like modules.

you can make a block of constructors or smelters you can place down in seconds and hook up to a miner or ingot output.

[unkempt blade]

I like making blueprints I only use a single time. It just feels more efficient

[snow rune]

put down belt sections and then blueprint and them so building goals faster

also all machines you make were made in the blueprinter! so they must have a big one back on earth.

[storm zephyr]

do awesome sinks share ticket counts globally?

like if i have something going into one will i be able to cash that out at another one

[leaden turret]

yes

same with the mam, once it goes ding when there's stuff, you don't need to head back to base to check it, you can just build one out in the field

[mystic oriole]

and you don't need to keep one around either. Build one, load your hard drive. Deconstruct it and go around the world collecting hard drives that way.

[storm zephyr]

what happens to thes tuff on a conveyor when i upgrade it

[heavy oxide]

It goes faster

[storm zephyr]

i mean the stuff already on it

does it just dissappear or what

are hypertubes worth the investment or nah

[heavy oxide]

If you're deleting and replacing the conveyor, the stuff on it goes into your inventory

If you're just upgrading it by clicking directly on the already built conveyor, The stuff on it stays

I also need to work on unlocking rocket fuel so I can replace my biomass burner power plant with a rocket fuel power plant

[storm zephyr]

where do the parts from the awesome shop come from

oh nvm

[wise lance]

how can i get a splitter on a lift to stop rotating the lift?

[storm zephyr]

is there like an overflow gate or something in this game

[leaden turret]

smart splitter

[crude canyon]

there's also a priority merger

but that's not as relevant

[minor vale]

Smart splitter
caterium MAM Tree
you don't even need steel to get it.
simple to craft, require AI limiters, which are a combination of copper sheets and quickwire.

[lavish flame]

anyone here play satisfactory?

[minor vale]

nah totally not

[lavish flame]

damn, alright

[knotty bear]

Whats the best proton version for this game?

[wild phoenix]

Nope

Is there a starboard here?

[karmic crow]

Do I have to start a new game to use the 1.2 update

Because no way in hell am I rebuilding everything

[ornate saffron]

no BUT backup your saves and blueprints

[karmic crow]

I’m kind of stupid how do I backup a save ?

[ornate saffron]

location is in #faq

[ornate saffron]

#faq message

[ornate saffron]

also no mods

[supple canopy]

you open your save and scream BACK UP! BACK UP MAN OR I'M SHOOTIN

[karmic crow]

Can I just copy the save file in some random folder ?

[minor vale]

yea pretty much.
Just as long asyou actually copy paste and don't remove your save from the folder.

[karmic crow]

Ok thanks

[minor vale]

do note by backing up, you're basically making a copy of your save as it currently is
if you do a bunch of stuff you like in 1.2 you won't get it back if you decide to use your backup to go back to 1.1

[noble coral]

how do i make a dedicated server not run when no player is online?

[dense violet]

might be info about that on the wiki section about dedicated servers

[karmic crow]

Has anyone using the experiment build experiences any game breaking / file corruptions errors yet ?

Don’t wanna pound out a 4 hour sesh and get on tomorrow to a totaled save

[supple canopy]

nope. Only issue I had was I couldn't load it on the interactive map, had to ring the landowner. Other than that everything strickly in game is very smooth

[karmic crow]

Okay that’s assuring thank you

[supple canopy]

I've been playing since update 3 and always on experimental when a new update dropped, never lost a save

[sharp rune]

For some reason the Satisfactory tools website doesn't seem to think you can get Sulfur without converting Iron or Coal to it with SAM.

OH wait nvm I just had to tell it I didn't have Sam

[dense violet]

it's got to do with resource weights that's all, it is generally just easier saying zero sam, or turning off conversion recipes

[karmic crow]

All the crashed ships with hard drives respawned on the experimental build

[unborn moss]

Yea, I just turn off reanimated SAM and it works fine. Wish you could set it to your default.

[sharp rune]

I turned off the conversion recipes and it was just like "Welp I dunno what to tell you but you can't ake smokeless powder without it" and I"m just like "tf you mean I'm standing right on Sulfur"

[dense violet]

a lot of things reset with updates

[dense violet]

did you also turn off sulfur?

share the link

[junior dew]

Did you find/get an answer for this, I am interested in the result.

[minor cedar]

so i waas today years old when i found out that u cannot color concrete rounded beams

[coral marsh]

Well thats a shame

Dunno if ill ever use em though but sad

[grim carbon]

are there any benefits to production in having either the steamed copper sheet or the automated miner?

[wheat willow]

encountering this weird bug where constructors and assemblers turn invisible but they still keep producing items. Seems to only happen on a dedicated server.

[grim carbon]

i've alsos seen a similar bug with the awesome sink sometimes partially disappearing

[dense violet]

well steamed copper sheets saves you on copper, automated miners lets you automate miners

[coral marsh]

Steamed copper sheets is the best recipe for it

[minor vale]

steamed copper gives you more copper sheets with the cost of only needing water.

[dense violet]

and tons of refineries.
honestly the one place I'm tempted to use sloops is to turn Constructors into 'refineries'

[knotty bear]

Every time I run the game with proton 9.0.4 or whatever it gives errors but 8.0.4 or whatever before crashes a lot,

[feral vector]

I have a bunch of smart plating/versatile framework/automated wiring, is there a good way to use them up? seems like when I want to use them for the next phase parts I'm better off just building them into the production chain?

[edgy lion]

you need it for space elevator parts later in the game. so yeah you want to produce them hehe

[feral vector]

yeah but do I like... put a storage container full of them in the middle of my production line or something lol

[clever pier]

you can but I normally sink the excess

because you generally need to ramp up the production numbers greatly in the next phase

so 25 left overs from the previous phase doesn't really help

[feral vector]

I have like 2 large storage containers full of some of those things lmao

I'm super slow they have just been stockpiling while I mess around and learn stuff

[clever pier]

i'm using GE Proton 10-26 and it works fine for me

[feral vector]

hmm I'm gonna do the math, if I have enough smart plating to make 500 modular engines that would save me a lot of automation

[clever pier]

just sink them for coupons

[feral vector]

I don't even know what I'd use all these coupons for I have so many

besides the golden nut ofc

[clever pier]

you will need to automate modular engines later for other parts

[feral vector]

yeah I figured, the phase parts seem to keep building into each other

I guess I can make an even better modular engine factory during phase 4 if I skip it now

[clever pier]

up to you

[primal crypt]

the grid is a lie reject the grid and embrace trucks and trains and the landscape.

[feral vector]

I wanna start using trains but I need to build stuff first

slacking so bad on phase 3 stuff

I have like 4000 smart plates XD

and automated wiring

[primal crypt]

automated wire is horrendous.

[feral vector]

I only need 500 automated wiring and 1000 smart plating for the phase 3 stuff

I'm gonna container feed this ahaha

[feral vector]

it's just stators and cables, nto that bad?

[primal crypt]

i have a section decated to automated wire but if i ran it as max capiceity other things would stave. i need to up my smelter form 480 pipes to 780 pipes.

which i can do i just need to reblet the smeltor with the new belts

[feral vector]

damn lol sounds like I'll see what you mean later

[primal crypt]

im neaby

[distant pilot]

and this is why im happy about the elevator cost multipliers

specifically the infeasibility of doing that and instead needing a true production line for elevator parts

[feral vector]

well to be fair there's no way I'd have this many extra on my next playthrough, I'm just so slow that they have stockpiled a lot

[grim carbon]

do power slugs respawn?

[fierce kiln]

They're limited

[still bear]

i wait to dupe them

[grim carbon]

ok

[still bear]

👍 \

[distant hill]

I generally get a few power shards then wait for sloop tech so I can double every other slug

And I think I asked this the other day, just a general question, but what do you call the plastic-rubber set up where you use some of the plastic to make rubber and some of the rubber to make plastic... I call it a 'plastic-rubber loop', but... I used that term and people went 'wut' at me...

[viral egret]

once i get vehicles i genuinely plan to not use a belt longer than 20meters any more

[dense violet]

you'll have to really design you factories tightly, sometimes you just need a bit of a longer belt within them

[viral egret]

no i mean like between ore nodes and the factory

[dense violet]

fair 🙂

[proven snow]

That's basically what I do

[viral egret]

#screenshots message
cause FUCK. THIS.

[proven snow]

Trucks and trains are a ton of fun

[distant hill]

Having built in the same spot multiple times I know which direction to "expand in"... so my early game seems random 🤣 'why did you use a truck here but a belt there'... there's a process...

[proven snow]

Even moreso in 1.2

[viral egret]

i am NOT doing 4 parallel belts EVER again no thank you

[white dawn]

Yeah, my own this-belt-is-too-long cutoff is a lot shorter than most, I feel. :D

My shortest tractor route on my last save was literally 200m (as the manta flies, anyway)

[viral egret]

one road, dump everything and drive that damn truck. easy enough

how big is a fundation?

like 5m?

[white dawn]

8m²

[viral egret]

8m okay

so 25 fundations yeah 100% truck

[opal laurel]

is the exper out yet?

[proven snow]

More than 25

[viral egret]

1.2? yeah it's in exper

[coral marsh]

has been for a few days now

[minor vale]

if your goal is a 2 way road, then you're looking for 3 foundations wide for a good road size.

[feral jay]

16m² - 4m x 4m

[proven snow]

8m^2 surface area and 8 meters long isn't the same

[opal laurel]

huh my still says update 8 for the pic

[viral egret]

and that's okay, as long as it's not belts :)))))

[viral egret]

it's... it's a square...

if it's a square

[coral marsh]

a single foundation is 8 meters by 8 meters

[white dawn]

oh, lol, no, we're both wrong. I'd meant "8m on a side" but said 8m², which would be a very small foundation.

[viral egret]

and the area is 8m^2....

then the lenght is 8m...

[feral jay]

hah yes 64m² then

[white dawn]

nah, 64m² if I'm going to insist on using area and be correct about it. Saying "8m a side" is the more useful number, though, and is really what I'd intended to convey. :D

[viral egret]

ohhhh square metersssss not meters squared my bad

i thought you were trying to say it's 8 meters (squared)

[proven snow]

Yeah but I just checked and can agree with Nikolai, each side is 8 meters

[viral egret]

which is 64 sqm

[minor vale]

roads are fun, but if you can, try to just use the ground where you can

Unless you're into building large road networks like I am :D
#screenshots message

[viral egret]

okay, so 25 fundations for 200m

[viral egret]

damn how did you do those curvessss

[white dawn]

I can't answer for Zack Azeros' specific techniques, but: Some frequently-linked-to videos about building curves:

Wan 3.0: https://youtu.be/8Jxfy2_Iw6U
Wan Curve: https://youtu.be/i5qnl0PzkXE
Any-size Circles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI3ZM4Zzhqs
KyloBuilds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwyyYpe0c4
Foundations following rails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9V0fQPq3Xo

[minor vale]

It's a method involving using the walkways on the outside of foundations.
In reality it's kind of a pain to do and you end up far off the world grid/any local grid.
For me though I used this method.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewPScvGuehQ

[white dawn]

The generic technique for anything fancy like that tends to involve building "guideline" objects to get things lined up and then delete those guideline objects once you have the stuff you really want in place.

For a lot of stuff it's beams (it's always beams...) but as you can see from some of those vids, catwalks/walkways are useful too. The cement road barriers are pretty frequenly used noawadays as well

[viral egret]

nahhh i'll just stick to the grid thanks

[white dawn]

Folks who go heavy into curve-based architecture often end up using a mod like CurveBuilder which makes the process a lot less labor-intensive

[viral egret]

i wish they made a diagonal piece tho

or like, a way to build diagonally

also how tf do people do circular factories? god that must be such a pain

[ivory helm]

idk i was looking thru pics of peoples factory and i can only imagine

[minor vale]

Any more I advocate for avoiding building roads unless you have to.
there's plenty of natural paths in the game you can take.
And you can build bridges where obsticles arive otherwise.

[ivory helm]

well i guess ima try playing experimental cause i didnt know it was out

[white dawn]

Yeah, IMO only build roads if the building-of-roads itself sparks joy. If you'll have a wonderful time building out roads, then go for it! But it can be a lot of work, and kind of negates one of the main advantages of vehicles (ie: barely any required infrastructure)

Save your infrastructure-building energy for when you start building out rail, etc. :D

[viral egret]

i want it to just look like a colonialised land

[minor vale]

while it was a fun project, I once made a huge mistake by combining my gobal train network with a road network
It ooked cool but I.. ended up never using hte road parts of the infrastructure and it was all trains because there was zero purpose in using the roads when the rails were there for any long distance route.
#design-and-architecture message
#design-and-architecture message

[viral egret]

like, "man was here" type of deal

[ivory helm]

you guys play experimental yet?

[minor vale]

I have
I like the new vehicle route system a lot.
But it has 1 flaw.

[ivory helm]

that is?

[minor vale]

there needs to be options for holding trucks/tractors at stations until they can be fully loaded/unloaded.

[ivory helm]

that would be nice but tbh im lame and i work harder then smarter and never used trucks

[minor vale]

in my specific case this setting is needed for one of my old Tractor routes to work.

IE: 6.6KM long. 2 pickup points 1 drop off point.
relied on the fact that the old system didn't accurately render the tractors that much from a distance and having 3 tractors evenly spaced out constantly doing delivery runs in a consistent manner.
now with the new system, it just doesn't work.
and always ends up with Truck/tractor 2 and 3 getting to the drop off point which is still mostly full, dumping any where between half of it's actual pyaload to maybe 1 stack at most into the truck stop before going back to multiple pickup points stalling every thing.

Technically this would be fixed if I just had more stops and multiple routes but
Its how it worked before so it'd help to have options to make it work better now.

[ivory helm]

dude this is amazing i have all pure nodes random on and i spawned in front ot 2 iron and 2 coal nodes

[ivory helm]

thats understandable

[proven snow]

Already got all my tier 1-4 milestone unlocks, but somehow only just placed down a copper miner

[ivory helm]

lmao

[proven snow]

Caterium just feels better

[ivory helm]

i usually just make ugly factories but i want to try and make a decent one this time so hopefully i can do something

[trim osprey]

Hello fellow pioneers :)

[ivory helm]

yo

[trim osprey]

I didn't mess with caterium until I had already been using a bunch of oil because I just found lots of quick wire from crashes 😭

[ivory helm]

It would be cool if they added some sort of farming for the berries and stuff

unless i just never saw it

[proven snow]

Yea you don't need much quickwire early. I used the caterium to make copper wire mostly

[white dawn]

Not in the game as of now, and not on the radar; you can see some statements from community managers here: https://archive.satisfactory.video/topics/features/possible-features/farming/

But it's something that they're not necessarily opposed to adding

[ivory helm]

oh cool

[minor vale]

the caterium tree is amaazing for things like the smart splitter and zipline more than quickwire itself

[ivory helm]

dawg this random is amazing

two sams and a caterium iron quarts and limestone next to each other and all pure nodes is so nice

[minor vale]

in my own 1.2 test world I got 5 coal nodes of mostly pure variety in a kind of like line going across the dune desert.

[ivory helm]

nice

[feral vector]

how bad am I gonna screw myself if I use containers to feed smart plating and automated wire into the adaptive control unit and modular engine production lines lol I'm still undecided

I think if I just leave space to automate them later it's not that bad?

I have thousands of both I wanna use them to finish phase 3 faster

[ivory helm]

thats what i did for a bit tbh its always good to automate but its prolly fine

if u gonna do it later

[trim osprey]

I'm so glad we have all saves we've ever manually made. I ripped down my entire area of production and regretted it by the end of the day, so I got to reload my old base with all the knowledge I now have

Like how a pure oil node is top tier and I just didn't know! 🫠

[ivory helm]

thats real i honestly was dissapointed in how i made mine and i found out experimental was out so im just starting anew

[red dew]

automated time crystals

i luckily got the pink diamond recipe early on

[plucky bone]

On to tier 8 but somehow am making factories for the space elevator parts I thought I was done with. Guess Space elevator parts should be automated all the way. So now I am making an automated wiring factory. Then more. My poor half done aluminum plant will have to wait.

[dense violet]

you can just shove the regular parts you make already into containers to make them

[plucky bone]

I know. That's how I did some for the last phase. I want a factory. Then the sink gets happier later.

[pure wharf]

is there any foundations that are just normal corners not like sloped or anything like that?

[dense violet]

just rotate them and angle as needed

[pure wharf]

alrighty

[supple canopy]

nah you're fine, I almost never automate project assembly parts

[meager jacinth]

is there a website that tells u the amount of each factorys for eveerything to be the most efficient at every possible stage

[timid rune]

finally making ficsonium rods \o/

[brittle dune]

Yall, how much drone fuel production do yall recommend

I'm probably gonna make rocket fuel and later upgrade it to ionized

[coral marsh]

depends on how many items you wanna drone

i plan on packaging at least 500 ionized fuel per minute for a drone base idea i have though i may need to double that

if you do plan on packaging a lot of ionzied for drones, i would reccomend going with the "dark ion" alt recipe as it produces 2.5 times more than the base recipe

go with that and you can place down 2 machines with 5 packagers for a 1:1 ratio of ionized fuel to packaged ionized fuel per minute

if the drone trips aren't too long, they will consume roughly 4 or 5 packaged ionzied fuel per trip (about 4 or 5 every 3-5 minute round trip)

[normal orbit]

you are gonna need the parts for next phases. its probably quicker to just automate them than handfeed machines. But nothing stopping you from doing that.

[wheat musk]

Hello everyone

[brittle dune]

dark ion produces less tho no?

That's the tradeoff

You don't need to deal with producing entire powershards but you lose fuel value in the process and need to re-bottle it

Whereas regular is 1:1 conversion

[coral marsh]

fk what i know honestly. cna't say shit here without constantly being corrected

[brittle dune]

I'm sorry I didn't mean it in a negative way

[dense violet]

The exchange is a personal choice,
You get less fuel but you do a lot less work and resources for it

A perfectly fine choice

[brittle dune]

I've had so much trouble finding such a frame of reference of how much fuel usage is to be expected (obviously it varies but I just need some amount to work off)

[brittle dune]

exactly

[brittle dune]

Also I think you might have been mixing base recipe and dark ion?

Dark ion being the one that is simpler but in exchange takes 2.4 (times the) rocket fuel per ionized fuel

[sterile blade]

Oh no... people having different opinions?!

[brittle dune]

Personally the net loss in fuel value makes it unattractive for me if it's about drone fuel prod

[brittle dune]

Cmon don't be like that

[sterile blade]

Trying to point out how it's normal for people to share different opinions in online discourse? ^^

[normal orbit]

there are opinions and just not correct info. what world would we live in if we can't correct misinformation

[sterile blade]

Well, there's that too... 😅

[brittle dune]

Just feels a bit needlessly harsh with how you said it is all

[sterile blade]

I do apologize if it comes across as harsh; I was trying to be sarcastic ^^

[normal orbit]

dark ion being 2.4 rocket fuel to 1 ionized. and normal recipe being 1 to 1

[sterile blade]

Refrains from answering due politics rules

[fallen orbit]

Is 1.2 experimental stable enough so I can play it in my save?

[normal orbit]

i've been on experimental since it opened on 1.2 and had exaktly 0 crashes

[fallen orbit]

I am in my 2nd play through and having that new vechile pathway system would be nice

[normal orbit]

some bugs, but no crashes

[fallen orbit]

I didn't finish my first save though i remeber I was on the phase where you get the hoverpack

It's been an year since I played satisfactory lol

[fallen orbit]

That's great then thanks!

[sterile blade]

Tbf, it's been a while since we had a "crashy" experimental...
I reckon they got gud (or good enough) at dealing with that

[normal orbit]

its been quite stable since 1.0 tbh. i crashed twice when they did the bad update. but since then never had a crash since 1.0

[sterile blade]

"The bad update"? XD
Which one was that?

[cedar token]

how do i avoid burnout 😔

[mortal ginkgo]

stop playing the game and instead do the things that you are supposed to be doing

[cedar token]

mm doesnt work for me

[mortal ginkgo]

after you finish what you supposed to do, you will feel joy which will allow you to play the game more

[oblique aspen]

play your way, do things that are fun for you, ignore any "meta" recommendations others give you

[lilac hazel]

🔥

fire suggestion

but no

Ignoring things is my passion

[mortal ginkgo]

big dawg praised and roasted me at the same exact moment

I am dying as we speak

[normal orbit]

dont recall version number, but they pushed once update during early 1.0 which just made it super crashy. they fixed that in a few days

[cold berry]

Got an apartment lined up, now I don't have to stop playing satisfactory because I'm homeless

(my credit was bad so it was hard to find even though I could afford it, I had to raise it over like 3 months ;-;). One of My actual worries for some reason was "buh my factory. And I guess my cats"

[dense violet]

I recommend moving to Australia. Credit ratings are basically not used.

[fluid sapphire]

i was under the impression that permanently moving there is not that easy

[dense violet]

It's not the easiest but I very much enjoy not being in the US anymore

very much worth it

[south sinew]

sure seems like it's falling apart

[fluid sapphire]

out of all the places you could choose you chose the one with the crazy spiders and hopping lunatics 😄

[meager fern]

hoping lunatics who i hear try and drown dogs

[dense violet]

I've been here for 25 years and almost every spider I've seen is a daddy long legs 😛 and Roos are basically deer

[brittle dune]

Anything that gets in the water with them afaik

[dense violet]

2-3 redbacks (black widdows)
a couple golden orb spiders were really cool. Not really venoumous afaik

[meager fern]

probably, but i was using an example that a human would care about, and that i had heard about

[dense violet]

oh, huntsman spiders too but not venomous

[dense violet]

what does?

[meager fern]

based on what you said, and the stuff thats happening, i'm guessing "the US"

[dense violet]

not clear, they could have meant Australia.
there was a lot of stupid news in the US about aus especially during covid like we were some prison country

[jovial night]

Anyone else notice the wierd pit thing in the ocean? i feel like the out of bounds areas of the map have a suspiciously large amount of effort put into them, especially considering this is litterally underwater and in normal gameplay is unseeable
pics for reference: #screenshots message

[meager fern]

well im not going to really go into it, because i dont think the rules would encourage it, or mods would be happy about it, but id say its pretty clear that it would refer to the U.S

[jovial night]

pretty sure they are talking about the us, but from what i've heard here the australia government seems pretty corrupt (not to say we're any better, we're probably worse honestly)

[dense violet]

eh, you'd be hearing from the equivalent of fox news then

[leaden turret]

political trashfires are #off-topic-general if not outright excluded per #rules 😛

[dense violet]

they aren't up corporate butts nearly as much as the dems

[plucky bone]

To be fair what government isn't corrupt?

[jovial night]

I mean did you hear about the friendlyjordies thing

[jovial night]

true

[meager fern]

its not outright excluded as far as i can tell, but its odd to hear that its allowed anywhere. usually that kind of discussion is discouraged to avoid people arguing about stuff like that

[leaden turret]

While we do accommodate a space for off-topic chatter, we ask that you refrain from discussions surrounding religion or politics.

[meager fern]

smh, they should've put a - by it

[jovial night]

yeah

[jovial night]

also

[brittle dune]

What do you mean "suspiciously"

[jovial night]

like it seems wierd to put in effort in designing something like that just to have it hidden

[meager fern]

it seems to me like a testing ground for designing stuff

[jovial night]

oh that could be it

[mortal ginkgo]

its not really hidden considering people tend to like reaching to elevator and checking around.

However it might be there due to lore reasons, as Fisconium Fuel Rod states "The power source that put FICSIT on the map. Literally. The crater is still there."

This might also be the reason why we are the third successful lander on the planet as ADA states. One "old timer" helmet is found, other one has nothing on map that we can find.

The latter might be a Pioneer that almost reached the end but failed due to such explosion after a fisconium incident.

Ultra yolo self cannon.

Hence, why Fisconium is banned in Earth.

[jovial night]

oh it being the crater is a really cool theory

[mortal ginkgo]

You can see in your screenshot it is really around a large circular zone that doesn't fit much the mountains around.

Again, 100% speculation.

This can also explain why Doggos can find gifts that are items you didn't make yet.

Explosion might have thrown them all over the planet.

[jovial night]

ohhh wait so if that theory is true the islands we see over there could of originally been part of the main island

[mortal ginkgo]

So there was at least one Pioneer who really tried to reach the end.

[mortal ginkgo]

Correct, you can see Dune Desert is oddly separated from that zone via some waterfalls etc that doesn't fit the place much.

Again 100% yolo cannon but, considering how Dune Desert is really reach with resources, that Pioneer might have had a main base focused on that blown up zone.

[jovial night]

and they nearly completed save the day before something went wrong with fisconium

i love that theory

[amber crater]

i've seen a lot of posts where people complain about having too much alumina solution and struggling to get rid of it.. why is that? i haven't had any issues with too much alumina solution

[mortal ginkgo]

Correct. Explosion might have even damaged the Space Base that we are rebuilding. However note that the HUB still sends stuff above even when there is no obvious base visible above.

So there IS something out there before you managed to either build it, or became visible enough.

[mortal ginkgo]

People complain also about having too little alumina. It happens. We all complain about something.

[amber crater]

lol

[jovial night]

would also go with the whole FICSIT steals all pioneer discoveries thing, as that could of been the pioneer that discovered how to make and use "fisconium"

[amber crater]

i just have a train that ships full cars of bauxite, water, and coal to a refinery building, and i sink all the overflow

[spring phoenix]

when ficsit offers me fuel generators

[plucky bone]

Anyone else know that a radio tower will not show veins if they have a chunk of ore on top that you have to hand mine away?

[spring phoenix]

i love fuel gens i love polluting the earth like planet

[jovial night]

who doesnt

factory must grow

[spring phoenix]

my autocorrect is adding words to my sentences again

i hate this phone but i love my factory

[plucky bone]

Haha me too. Was gonna make a huge train-in the crude oil power plant somewhere.

[spring phoenix]

my factory would never add random and useless words to my sentences

[amber crater]

never

nice pfp rookie

[spring phoenix]

hell yeah

[tired trench]

anyone know how to produce EXCITED PHOTONIC MATTER ? it says exposure to SAM, don't know how to do that, no slot in the INPUT column

[fluid sapphire]

i dont think that needs an input?

you just pick it from the list and the machine produces it

[oblique aspen]

its a rather special case where a machine just pumps it out from thin air, only needing power

[fluid sapphire]

special indeed

[tired trench]

nothing to do with SAM ???

[fluid sapphire]

nope

not mechanically anyway

[spice patio]

You used SAM to build the machine, in form of the trigons

[tired trench]

well I keep switching Converter but it switches off

the RECIPE is there, but nothing happenes when I switch it on

[spice patio]

Is the output full?

[tired trench]

its halfway 3,358, full says 5,372

need more juice ?

[twin cradle]

Hello I was intel igpu user but now I bought rtx2070 super to play satisfactory
yayyyyyyyyyyy
also i3 -> i5 cpu

[oblique aspen]

the converter has variable power usage, it may need more juice

[tired trench]

build another nuc gen ?

[fluid sapphire]

with 14 generations of i5 out there, that doesnt say anything at all

[tired trench]

well, its his first i5

[twin cradle]

idk but last 5 number is 1---- I think

[tired trench]

ok, will built another gen, wish me luck

[fluid sapphire]

still 5 generations of possibilities 😄

[twin cradle]

btw I bought satisfactory a month ago but I haven't played yet cuz I saw the frame limit

i hope it's similar to factorio

[fluid sapphire]

some similarities from what i hear but also a lot of differences

[hard ivy]

Frame limit?

[fluid sapphire]

right? idk pretty sure you can build as many frames as you want

[normal orbit]

not really

also no idea what you mean with frame limit

[fluid sapphire]

i have like 67k frames in my world

[jovial night]

six seven

[tired trench]

i got another gen going, max power is already at 11K, but still the same, nothing produced

meter shows same thing, fullat 5,372, half says 3,363

tested the power pole, and it says 11K max

oohi got it! it's LIQUID!!!

didnt put a tank before hahahaha!

[cold berry]

I'm enjoying the game more now that I'm not trying to pack everything in one building. Like, that's fun to me, but that's end game fun. Trains between medium and small start factories is so much easier. And it's easier to decorate a medium sized oil platform than like, the "taj mahal but badly built"

[fluid sapphire]

it... has the fluid icon?

[plucky bone]

The 2 meters on the left are consumption, top is current consumption and bottom is max if all things on grid were turned on. Right 2 are production and capacity. Top is what you are producing and bottom is what your capacity is.

[tired trench]

well it worked after I put in tank, the icon is a test tube like the others

[fluid sapphire]

its not a test tube, its a pipe

[cold berry]

I'm on the final phase before Endgame unlocks, but I want to get a kickass factory for heavy modular frames (done), motors (done) and computers/chips/SAM (my biggest factory so far and I'm actually like, designing it and using building tricks like curves) before I move into blenders and such

[tired trench]

well a tubular glass thingie with metal rings

[fluid sapphire]

thats a pipe with a flow indicator

[tired trench]

well im happy i got it going, now for those pesky dark matter thingies

[fluid sapphire]

gotta power my pumps and extractors and boom, i can finally turn this heap of garbage on to watch it crash and burn

hope i wired everything up right because it'll be a nightmare to clean up if i didnt hahhhahh 😬

at least i can give it a sort of dry run without circuit boards first

sheesh its gonna take forever for this to spin up

[fluid sapphire]

actually i dont think it even has any chance of working if i dont let the other stuff get to full production at first

i am beginning to suspect the people who warned me were right, though haha

that priority mergers will force items through even on low priority, thus eventually filling the belts with the material coming from that direction and grinding the entire thing to a halt

if only they had an extra setting akin to overflow on smart splitters

reliable way to only let items through when there is room, like a reverse overflow

it'd make so much sense as a feature

we have smart splitters, so why not this

[rough shore]

huh?

[reef basin]

imo smart mergers don't make sense as a feature 😛

[fluid sapphire]

why not

[rough shore]

why do u need smart mergers?

[fluid sapphire]

for smart sushi lines

[reef basin]

it's practically always easier to just have two separate setups

[fluid sapphire]

more options though

[rough shore]

what would a smart merger do

[fluid sapphire]

an example would be effecively the inverse of the overflow setting that smart splitters have

not sure what else, similar filter settings?

like check if belt has room, if it does, let item through

[rough shore]

idk how inverse of overflow work but filters? its one output

i mean doesnt the merger already do that like any other belt

u cant put items in it unless it has room

[fluid sapphire]

it does some kind of round robin

i am talking about a more controlled flow

i am not sure where else it would be useful, but in feedback loops it would be

[lean fossil]

6k MW YAYYYYYY

[rough shore]

congrats now do 600k

[reef basin]

fyi, it's either "6 GW", or "6000 MW"

it's the same as e.g. GB and MB in computer memory

[lean fossil]

uh...

ah I got 6gw

[reef basin]

yeah 🙂

[lean fossil]

:D

im gonna overclock this entire power ssystem down to the very flippin oil extractors

[rough shore]

sir same thing

[reef basin]

not the same thing. SI system (the one that we use and game uses) specifically disallows using multiple prefixes for a unit

(which they did - kiloMegaWatt)

[lean fossil]

#screenshots message

[rough shore]

sir we arent in a scientific laboratory its discord the point was delivered thats what matters

[reef basin]

this is not about science lol, these are units and systems we use on daily basis

[rough shore]

grammar is used on daily basis as well buddy pal

[reef basin]

yeah, and?

[cobalt pumice]

relax blowhard

[rough shore]

so use it pal buddy if we are gonna be specific about daily basis things that we use daily

[junior creek]

Is biofuel bad for using truck stations since it cannot be fully automated and I still don’t have any other fuel type that I know of at least

Should I just avoid truck stations for now cuz I might be early? (Stage 3-4)

[reef basin]

not your buddy and not your pal 🙂

[fluid sapphire]

coal

[junior creek]

It can run on just coal?

[fluid sapphire]

yes

[spring phoenix]

i just made multiple levels to my factory oh my god
it's not really efficient, and its questionable quality, but it works.

steel, power, iron, and copper.

[junior creek]

Oh Lol thanks!

[reef basin]

it can run on any solid fuel that can be burned

[rough shore]

ok

[spring phoenix]

and it certainly ain't look pretty

how do i find this game calming

[junior creek]

I was sure it wouldn’t work since the chainsaw doesn’t work with anything else other than biofuel I feel dumb💔

[reef basin]

equipment needs specific fuel
but vehicles can run on anything

afaik you can also hover/click on the fuel slot to see list of available fuel

[junior creek]

Actually? I didn’t notice that

But thanks a lot it makes my life way easier

[tired trench]

LOL finished the game, promoted to Local Production Manager

[floral zephyr]

is there already an office 1.2 release date?
And if i start on experimental now, can i continue it later in normal after release?

[tired trench]

OK bye guys!

[reef basin]

yes, you can continue

no, there's no release date

[floral zephyr]

merci

[fluid sapphire]

ya'll, this is crazy, i am kind of in disbelief, but i think its actually working??

#screenshots message

priority merged infinite circuit boards in a sushi loop

[ornate saffron]

I always had faith in you

[rough shore]

same

[fluid sapphire]

i was getting really paranoid towards the end here haha

[rough shore]

why did i not get a 🙏 reaction as well

[ornate saffron]

you got a donut

[rough shore]

we are so ghost pinging now

[ornate saffron]

ah, i see you have the machines that goes

[rough shore]

wha

t

[ornate saffron]

ping. the joke is the machine goes ping. its a Monty python reference .

[rough shore]

well the joke is ruined now

[fluid sapphire]

well, there you go, i was just staring at my screen

[ornate saffron]

I was trolling the QA site this morning reading stuff around nuclear power. someone posted there setup (1.0) and the top comment was someone explaining they had a perfect setup but it was ruined by the removal of beacons

seemed a little out of place lol

in any case. I need to plan out babies first nuclear today. anyone have wisdom >

[rough shore]

yeah

[ornate saffron]

ill move to #math-and-meta

[plucky bone]

Finally getting a train network going. Figured out signals (Just block so far path are still ???) Even have some turnarounds and junctions now. Yaaaayyyy!!

[hybrid jewel]

I wish satisfactory would be cross-platform game

[ornate saffron]

it is for consoles

but i understand your wish

[hybrid jewel]

But for consoles + pc

[ornate saffron]

the issue is Hardware limitations. The console version has half the object limit of pc

[hybrid jewel]

Sad

[ornate saffron]

a xbox series S would crash loading many pc players worlds

[hybrid jewel]

I tried to search for a teammate on Russian servers, but absolutely everyone there plays via steam. It makes me sad

[amber crater]

how is this so tidy what

[fluid sapphire]

Hours and hours of careful building

About as tight as I could pack it with minimal clipping

[unkempt blade]

you just look at stuff in the factory and ask yourself "does this spark joy" and if it doesn't spark joy then you let it go

[cold berry]

I just wish there were electric drone-style wheeled forklifts that weren't full tractors or trucks. That charge at a charging station, and could be used to bring packages around factories.

With docking bays, and pickup/dropoff terminals

That'd be so fun to schedule and stuff

[unkempt blade]

it sounds like factory carts but with more restrictions

[cold berry]

Factory carts can't carry anything, and you have to drive them manually. I'm talking Amazon style forklift drones (I'm not sure exactly what they're called).

For an alternative to belting everything inside the factory

IDK, I'd just like it. It's making me wonder if modding is too hard in this game, because I can do 3D models lol

If I made some good models I may be able to find a programmer to do the other half. Or two thirds, really, of the work

[unkempt blade]

They can carry stuff. You use them with truck stations the same you would other vehicles

[cold berry]

Wait

It already exists? Holy crap

I do wish there were smaller, compact stations though that make sense in a factory. That's why I said forklift drones lol

[weak bloom]

What do people generally use quartz for? I thought it would be more valuable initially but now I'm getting the impression that using it for silica and aluminum might actually be fine.....

[cold berry]

Might still be worth a mod

[unkempt blade]

yeah they don't need fuel/charging but otherwise it sounds pretty close to what you were asking for at least

[cold berry]

If I made a mod which I'm actually considering now (I've made a Minecraft mod, how hard can it be?)

The docking station would work like the batteries do, and use electricity like fuel

And be unable to use universal roads, they'd have their own pathing (if that's accomplishable)

It'd just be a reskinned, slightly skinnier road

It's just like, I've got big factory vibes, but I'm missing big automated warehouse vibes.

[amber crater]

sshh...

[amber crater]

i think that's the main difference: i'm okay with clipping

as long as it doesn't make it harder to read what's going on

if i had known how my production lines would turn out though i wouldn't have conveyors running back and forth along the length of my factory

[spring phoenix]

clipping matters little to me as long as it works

rather it look bad than work bad

[unkempt blade]

if it makes the surface flicker then it's bad clipping otherwise it's acceptable clipping 😄

[tawny basin]

I'm not sure if it's just on console or not but when I take power line from a power pole to make another power pole I can't half nudge but when I just make one normally i can

[hearty flame]

i uh
i have a mega print file (.CBP) any idea how i can get it into an actual blueprint file?

[unkempt blade]

I don't use megaprints but I'm pretty sure those are two different things

[elder abyss]

Hi, I'd like to share with you a project I've started. https://github.com/NicolasVautrin/satisfactory-toolkit

[cedar token]

should i use just coal or coal and bio in phase 2? coal seems really rare to find - cant find enough to power enough plants

[white dawn]

Heh, yes, use coal. Most folks can't wait to be off of biofuels

There are a lot of locations on the map where there's 3-4 coal nodes right next to largeish bodies of water. It's well worth seeking those out and building your power there

It may be a bit of a hike; this'll be the first of many times that the game is encouraging you to go expand outwards. :)

[cedar token]

ohh right i didnt think of building the power locally

[white dawn]

Where did you start? Could point you in the right direction to one place

[cedar token]

the plains spawn

[white dawn]

Yeah, it's nearly always easiest to just build your factories right near the nodes they need

Centralization is a lot more work than many folks realize

So yeah, there's a couple of spots up to the north / northwest. Follow those on your scanner. :)

[cedar token]

are normal quality nodes good enough?

[smoky void]

Yes and no, depending on what you want xD

[reef basin]

this looks interesting. I'm long looking for something that can extract game icons (and doesn't require GUI). Seems your tool can do it?

[white dawn]

Sure! You'll get faster miners eventually which let you take even more out of your nodes, in case you wanted to build more

[reef basin]

if the amount they make is enough for what you need

[white dawn]

Even impure nodes are fine. The only difference is how quickly you get material out of the ground. Two impures are a Normal. Two normals are a Pure. The only difference is just how many miners you need. :)

[cedar token]

thanks

[unkempt blade]

fancy!

[elder abyss]

yes there is a pak-tool that can do the job

based on CUE4parse

an IA can setup your env quickly

[timid rune]

annoying when nuclear plants don't run at 100% on 250% overclock >_>

with 2 extractors at 250% feeding it

[fluid sapphire]

For something like this it would have 100% made it harder to decipher, I did have some small issues at the start I needed to fix

[reef basin]

UE4? 🤔 afaik UE5 has not compatible format with UE4

[timid rune]

(I suspect it maybe of lag because I have 132 nuclear plants up and running)

[elder abyss]

that work 😉

[reef basin]

also, which OS have you tested it on? I'd like to use it on headless linux if possible

[elder abyss]

not sure that work on linux , CUE4Parse is a net tool

[reef basin]

.net is on linux 🤔

[elder abyss]

you can try

[reef basin]

ok, so I guess I'm on my own 😄 thanks though

though... license says it's "private project", so I kinda can't use your code 🤔

[elder abyss]

i will changed that

[timid rune]

depends on what phase you are on really

[weak bloom]

On 4, probably hitting 5 soon. I have about half my aluminum made with silica and the other half with the pure recipe rn

[ornate saffron]

It is fine. adding silica gives you more output. You have to weigh resources in the context of your playthrough. I used lots of quartz early for computer and such so I want to put that into consideration when choosing recipes later.

[unkempt blade]

I use like 90% of all quartz to make crystals to turn into signs

[timid rune]

I am burning quartz for pink diamonds for a vanity build

gonna need normal diamonds + pink diamonds + oil-based diamonds <_>

and dark matter trap is useful as heck

[ornate saffron]

biocoal diamonds, make all the diamonds

[latent gate]

I just came to check and see what chat was up to and I think I’m going to leave now

[timid rune]

and coke diamonds is.. not very good haha

[unkempt blade]

Ok, we love you. Have a wonderful day!

[ornate saffron]

biocoal will remember

[latent gate]

love you too, guys. Good luck and have fun!

[timid rune]

extra 58.4GW of peak power use for half the SAM ore consumption

yep that's a reasonable tradeoff

[paper current]

What do I do in this game

[minor rock]

the tiny space elephant is kinda sick

[white dawn]

Build factories. When you need a break from factories: go exploring for a bit. :)

[paper current]

But how

I've spent 6 hours and nothing has really changed

[timid rune]

gotta go through it step by step to start off

[white dawn]

Ficsonium's got a very specific niche. It's for folks who require 1) Burning Plutonium + 2) Still have clean nuclear. If you've got any wiggle room on either of those requirements, Ficsonium's definitely a hard sell

[timid rune]

yeah I am using Dark Matter Trap for a somewhat sizeable warped drive build (30/min)

[white dawn]

Honestly, if you're not having a good time by that point, it's possible the game's just Not For You. The game is factory-building. The only real big shift in playstyle comes once you finish your first space elevator delivery, which unlocks the tier where you have fully-automatable power

Folks do get burnt out on the biofuel-collection phase. Once you've got coal unlocked you can get the power fully automated

But in the end it's a game about factory building. If you're not enjoying building those factories, then it might just not be your Thing™.

[paper current]

I like factory building games I just have nothing to do other than mine so its not that fun yet

[white dawn]

Are you following the tutorial prompt things? You should unlock automated miners pretty early on after some tutorializing.

[timid rune]

I just finished my ficsonium production chain and slowly bringing them online 😄

[paper current]

I dont see any prompts

[white dawn]

Though tbf, I don't have a good gauge for how long it takes new players to go through those early tutorial phases. Maybe you spend longer without automated miners than I remember. :D

[ornate saffron]

when you make nuclear pasta what is your go to copper ingot recipe?

[timid rune]

copper alloy or pure copper

aka how much power do you have to burn through

[ornate saffron]

just curiousty more then anything. Ill do what I think is best when the time coems lol

[white dawn]

Heh, yeah, for me it's usually what Ellinor said: alloy or pure. Depends on circumstance

I don't mind refinery spam so I don't fear Pure, but a lot of times Alloy is more convenient

[timid rune]

^

Pure is fine as long as you are ready to deal with the powerusage requirements and the complexity of having a giga ton of refineries

[wispy osprey]

Are devs adjusting natural fog strength, is fog gonna be tied to weather?

[white dawn]

Did you opt to skip the onboarding, maybe, when starting?

[ornate saffron]

Im still having ptsd from my 10/min all phase parts run lol

[white dawn]

There's a digital "ADA" entity which should be guiding you through unlocking the early game stuff. You've got a series of I think eight HUB upgrades which introduce the various "basic" concepts

[paper current]

I dont think I skipped anything

[timid rune]

that said having 1000 refineries is still 1/5 of having 114 particle acclerators's peak power usage lol

[minor rock]

are they? i thought the cinematic fog mentioned was different to the general fog level

[wispy osprey]

In the current update fog in some places like the swamp or shorelines are really strong

[minor rock]

although, generally the fog is pretty janky so i wouldn't be surprised

[white dawn]

It's true that you don't have access to automated miners or conveyor belts and such immediately, but I don't think it takes super long to get those unlocked during Onboarding

[minor rock]

yeah i made a mod to diffuse the fog, very noticable to me while workin on that

[wispy osprey]

I hope it's fixed in 1.2

[timid rune]

pure is 2.5x copper with water as a input and copper alloy is 1 iron: 1 copper = 2 copper ingot

[minor rock]

there are some placeson the map, you walk up and suddenly the fog colour and volume changes by like 3x

if youre high up enough it happens depending on the area, but even walking it does too

[timid rune]

the latter is definitely easier if you have access to copper and iron nodes (which is fairly common as you'd imagine)

[minor rock]

idk i just hate UE tbh

[timid rune]

pure is when you don't care and wanting to squeeze out the most

[wispy osprey]

Base game with all pure nodes is gonna be realllly nice

[minor rock]

the fog hides the garbage rendering

[ornate saffron]

still looks pretty good with fog off, but you are right

[minor rock]

the foliage is really bad

[timid rune]

tempted to do a 100 warp drive/min run with all pures

[minor rock]

and the shadows too

[wispy osprey]

There are also issues with any water involvement if you swim around the ocean

It's pretty easy to see the terrain stretching that devs did for mapping